1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Unplugged, brought to you by DraftKings. The 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: crown is yours. Before we get this episode started, I 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: want to shout out two of the best players that 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: I ever got a chance to play with and against 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: who are just nominated for the Class of twenty twenty 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: five Hall of Fame. First of all, Carmelo Anthony, one 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: of the best scores this game has ever seen, competitor 8 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: three level score, strong athletic. His ability to make shots 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: and kit clutch shots have been unmatched, so salute. And 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: then Dwight Howard, one of the most disrespected greatest players 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: I've ever had a chance to play with and against. 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: I got a chance to play with Prime Dwight in Orlando. 13 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: Just incredible on both sides of the ball. So just 14 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: want to make sure I Shand's love and a shout 15 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: out to both you guys. The Enshrinement takes place September sixth, 16 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: First bout, No question, Congratulations fellas Man, Welcome to the show, 17 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: my guy, mad Max. You was busy this weekend, man, 18 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: I saw you. I heard you ran into a keem 19 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: at during who I See You fly as ever at 20 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: Stack's birthday party. Man, what's happening with you. You're back 21 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: on the mountain outside right now, Max, Max is outside 22 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: right now. 23 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: Man. It was so fucking crazy out day Houston. Anytime 24 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 2: I go there, man, this ship is like my goodness, 25 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: make well. I just I can't talk about everything, but. 26 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, party man. 27 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 3: I had a wonderful time. Man, it was. It was 28 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 3: a wonderful time. 29 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: It was happy birthday to our brother Stack. 30 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 4: Man. 31 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 1: I have this weekend, so I had to live vicariously 32 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: through Instagram, but everybody was fly. A big topic leaving 33 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: the National Championship game is your brother are keen not 34 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: being able to get on the floor. What's the deal 35 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: with that? 36 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 3: Man? 37 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: I saw your tweet. 38 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, see these weird ass white folks out there in 39 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: San Antonio. You know you gotta have motherfuckers doing who damn? 40 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: This is logic one. You gotta know who this mother. 41 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: Right. That's a walking credential right there. That's the walking 42 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: credential you talking about. 43 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: He don't need no predictions, man. That's why I thought. 44 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 3: I thought my boy was gonna reach up and knock. 45 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: The ship out of him like he hit me. But 46 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: he contained his motherfucking self. He contained himself real well. 47 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 2: I spoke, dreaming, I sell the look and then okay, 48 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: but but I just thought dreaming put them damn hands 49 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 2: on it the tweet. 50 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: Hell, dream, you need to stop being Muslim for a second, 51 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: asked the guy. What did the five fingers stay to 52 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: the face? He wanted them to slap the dog ship 53 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: out of bro Huh. 54 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I had to put that in there, man, 55 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: because that was crazy. 56 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: Man, come on, man'sous it's ridiculous. 57 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 3: I gotta know who you're dealing with. 58 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: Who you're fucking with, man, it's ridiculous. 59 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 60 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely, did you dream talk about your clipping went viral 61 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: on the show? 62 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, the slap and ship. Uh. I walked into the venue. 63 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 2: They had a Legends night over there at the Rockets game, 64 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 2: and I gets okay, see on Friday. 65 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 3: So I walked up to the venue. I see dreaming. 66 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 3: At first I saw Rudy Tea. I went over the 67 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 3: talks with the tea for a little while. He was 68 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 3: talking me, why you got that blowing up? 69 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 2: You looking good? I'm happy for you. Then I said, 70 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: I said, got that mother for a little slapman. 71 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 3: So I went over there and dream. 72 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: I was like, dream, what's going all my people's what's 73 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: up baby? Dream looked at me and said, mate, why 74 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: are you opening up the new the lose that door closed? 75 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 2: Do not talk about that? 76 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 3: Slap man, dude, why you why you opening all that up? Now? 77 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: That's muster. 78 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: What you do? 79 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: Like? 80 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: God, damn dream Man? Come on now, the ship happened. Man, 81 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: you're talking abou damn Man. Don't talking about that anymore. 82 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: But Dream, I'm talking about this ship today. Yeah, you 83 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: still put your goddamn hands over me though, Man, I said, 84 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, he just told me. 85 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: To stop talking about it. I ain't gonna never stop 86 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 3: talking about. 87 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: It, ship, he said, I want my lick back. Hey, 88 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: speaking of obviously, running in and and and Leed is 89 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: like them young Rockets have been cooking lately. Took down 90 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: ok See, ended the Warriors five game winning streak. They've 91 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: secured most likely the second seed in the Western Conference. 92 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: Is this team? For real? 93 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 4: They're young. 94 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: We've talked about this for a really young team. But 95 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: I think Udoka is one of the best coaches in 96 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: the league. He's got these boys playing on all cylinders. 97 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on them? 98 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? 99 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: They played well on Friday when I was there, Man, shit, 100 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: I couldn't I was like, damn Shay act like he 101 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 2: ain't want to play on Friday. But those guys were 102 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: locking up. Like I said, they long athletic. I keep saying, man, 103 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,679 Speaker 2: and I keep going back to this. 104 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: Man in the playoffs. 105 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: Man, I don't know, man, We just like I seen 106 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 2: them lose some games that I thought they was gonna 107 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: be into and that they could have that they shouldn't, 108 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 2: you know, to prove a point like Okay, we can 109 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: go on the road and beat these teams like Denver 110 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: and these guys like that. 111 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 4: Man. 112 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 2: So I don't know, man, I just and I love 113 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: you Dokah like you said, man, But I just think 114 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: that second round is gonna be real, real tough boy. 115 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 2: I mean it might fall against the Lakers or somebody 116 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 2: like that. 117 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: It could be do I mean. 118 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough, man, I mean that's it's gonna 119 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: be tough. They just don't have that real truth guy 120 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 2: that in a you can identify with, like man Jelina 121 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: was talking about for the show. So you can roll 122 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: that motherfucker ball out to it and go get me 123 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 2: a goddamn bucket. 124 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: Boy. They got a lot of young talent, and I 125 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: definitely think they've embraced the mindset and the attitude of email, 126 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: which is you know, in your face defense, tough, hard, nose, 127 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: second and third, first ones to the floor that but 128 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: we all know come playoff time, experience is a is 129 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: a heavy factor and any team can beat anyone on 130 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: any given night, but to beat someone in the seven 131 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: game series, you have to be the better team. 132 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 3: So get us a half court game, now, all them down. 133 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: Fast break points ain't there in the playoffs, man, so 134 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: you can really gonna have to get into your sets 135 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: and be able to run your sets. I mean, you 136 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 2: got to go to your first option, sap. I mean 137 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: it's gonna be it's gonna. 138 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 3: Be tough, man. 139 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 1: So it's good because again I think this is you know, Okac, 140 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: He's been able to get here the last few years 141 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: and take their and understand the process and what it 142 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: takes and how the game slows down and how every 143 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: possession counts. And this is going to be Houston's kind 144 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: of with this core. This is going to be the 145 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: highest they've been and you know, expected to win, but 146 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people have upset alert on the Rockets, 147 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: So we're definitely gonna have to see one thing I 148 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: did want to point out though, is that is they 149 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: really put the clamps on Steph. I mean they threw 150 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: multiple defenders from Thompson Brooks easton Adam Frazzle. You know, 151 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: Steph was complaining, I think one for ten from the 152 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: field three points. He may said. Anytime you're complaining about fouls, 153 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: you know you've done your job again. That's the one 154 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: thing I really like about this team, as they play 155 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: with an energy and a physicality that you don't get 156 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: to see every night in the NBA. So I'm definitely 157 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing what this young team does mean too. 158 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 3: Man. 159 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: Like I said all the time, they got like a 160 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: lot of six s eighth, sixty nine, sixty seven guys 161 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: they just throw at you. An athletic is hell, you 162 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: know what I mean. And all of them dogs, so 163 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 2: they're ready to guard. So, I mean they got that part. 164 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 2: But I just think when they when they really need 165 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: to get a bucket, it's gonna be tough in the playoffs, 166 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: That's what I keep saying. 167 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see who who who falls in 168 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: that seventh spot. Golden State could be in there. There's 169 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: a lot of teams that could possibly be in that 170 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: seventh spot. So I'm definitely looking forward to seeing who 171 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: lands a men Thompson. What's his ceiling? I mean, he's 172 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: one of my favorite young players. Him and his brother 173 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: have come in this game and showed a different side 174 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: of athleticism and IQ and skilled. What are your thoughts 175 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: on him? And what is his ceiling? 176 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 3: A dog? 177 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: He a fucking dog, you know, I mean he, I mean, 178 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: he won't the best player. Every fucking night guard you 179 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: know out there on the perimeter. He doesn't care, you know. 180 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: I mean after and then when I knew it was 181 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: a real dog when he grabbed that little motherfucker. 182 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: For mom and swung his head and swung that motherfucker on. 183 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: The what you he wrote when he grabbed he was 184 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: around goddamn rad dog. I say, goddamn, that's my guy 185 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: right there. I love that motherfucker for the rockets right there. 186 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: But that's my guy. Though, I love him. 187 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: I'm doing something with him this summer too, So I'm 188 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: gonna have a golf tournament you gotta come to. But 189 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: that's my guy, Yeah, brother. Yeah, there's some dogs though, 190 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: but yeah, definitely is a dog man. That's all I 191 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: can say. Just a damn natural doll. 192 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: I love it. 193 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 4: I love it. 194 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: Definitely send the dates. You know, I'm out there for 195 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: any kind of golf. I ain't sending Houston in the. 196 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 3: You know that. Definitely. I got dunking U. 197 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: Okay, shit, I got clothes, but I can always take 198 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: some new ones. 199 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: Callaway want to fit you, man, Callaway, want to fit 200 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: I'm in. Yeah, I got you. 201 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: I'm in, Yeah, I'm in. I'm in. Our boy joh 202 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: Wick joh Moran is in some more trouble. He gotta 203 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: fined seventy five thousand for making a gun gesture on 204 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: the court twice, not once, twice last week versus the Warriors. 205 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: Is this an overreaction to stuff he's done in the past, 206 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: because let's be real, a lot of people do it 207 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: on all different levels. I mean, shoot or shoot and 208 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: they point the guns. But I just kind of feel 209 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: like Josh shit is a little different because he's got 210 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,599 Speaker 1: caught on Instagram, you know, two different times with a 211 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: piece and and lost a lot of money and and 212 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: and and had to do all this ship. But the 213 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: one thing I will say Verne is I think he's 214 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: really going to embrace whether it's self proclaimed or really 215 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: thrown upon him. I think he's gonna embrace this villain role. 216 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: And I don't know if you guys want to wake 217 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: that monster up, because I think he looks for any 218 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: little thing to get edges and I think this him you, 219 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you a bad guy type. What did 220 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: he call? We were tripping at the house the other 221 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: day when he hit the game winning against UH Miami, 222 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: and he called the dude guarding him a pigeon. I'm like, 223 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: this dude is hey, this dude is off the chain's different. 224 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 3: That's my guy, that's my guy. 225 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: Thoughts on him, I know it's daddy. I mean, I mean, 226 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: I love the family man. That's my guy. But Joe 227 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: got a cheer with all that shit, you know what 228 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: I mean, because I mean you already got a reputation. 229 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: I mean Jo, I mean, come on, John, this Uncle 230 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: Max talking to you. God damn baby, we got a 231 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: god damn like trying to change the narrative now a 232 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 2: little bit, you know what I mean. The world is 233 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: going to be the face of the NBA one time. 234 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: Now you're the villain, Okay, That's who I was. So 235 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 2: I mean you can embrace the villain part and shit 236 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: and be a villain. But still, man, keep that goddamn 237 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: money in your goddamn pocket. Boy, I'm trying to tell you, man, 238 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 2: say that motherfucking money man, because I wish i'd. I mean, 239 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: I know you motherfuckers make way more money than what 240 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: the fuck I was making, But I won't give a fuck. 241 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: Man say that money. Man, Be more professional about what 242 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: you're doing. Man, you'll get more the deals. 243 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 3: And what you're getting. 244 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: Boy, well, there's no question I think. You know, obviously 245 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: he was on the trajectory to be the face of 246 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: the league, hands down, and I think obviously all the 247 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: stuff that's come as way negative is unfortunately been self 248 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: self inflicted. You know, obviously he got hurt, but the 249 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: off the court trouble, it wasn't because of anyone else 250 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: doing anything. It's because of him, and that affects the 251 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: bottom line across the board, because I mean his he 252 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: has a great shoe, and his shoe was on pace 253 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: to this is right when Kyrie was leaving, so they 254 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 1: needed the shoe to take it. And how I judge 255 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: shoes is how many shoes do I see it the 256 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: AU tournament and obviously in Josh shoe on everybody and 257 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: now I don't and now I don't, you know what 258 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: I mean. So that's affecting the bottom line. And both 259 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: you and I were villains, and and and all this 260 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: comes from a loving perspective. Is it's okay to embrace 261 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: that ship. But he has to realize something that he's 262 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: in that upper and he's in that superstar stratus. He's 263 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: in the superstar stratus with one of the best American players. 264 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: We talk about the you know, the the the over 265 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: overseas dominance of great Jaws, one of the great American 266 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: hopes that we have him and Tatum, you know, Booker, 267 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: there's a handful of guys that we have that you 268 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: know that we're gonna put our hat on, and he 269 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: has to be one of them. So I hope that 270 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: he kind of he gets this shit out of his system. 271 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you never want anything 272 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: to be louder than your play. And unfortunately the antics, 273 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: the antics have been louder than his play. And I 274 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: just hope for the sake of him and his greatness, uh, 275 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: he allows his play to get back to the forefront 276 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: because I think as fans, that's all we want to 277 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: see Max. Max is coming to La next week. Man, 278 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: I can't wait. I got my outfits already laid. I 279 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: got my outfits already laid. Yeah, what were doing? 280 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 2: Oh I'm gonna have mine too. Oh I'm ready. Hey, 281 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: y'all getting ready, mad Mask. 282 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, we're gonna be live streaming next week shooting 283 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: some content. Really excited again to have you in the 284 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: family and have you out man. But thank you for 285 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: joining me today and ship. We'll see you in LA 286 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: next week. 287 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 4: Bro. 288 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 3: Appreciate it. Man, have me on plug man. 289 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: Hey, y'all, have a good day, man, stay best my people, 290 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 2: burn one for old Max. 291 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: Now I want to welcome one of my personal friends, 292 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: one of the good guys in the game, Phil Handy Phil. 293 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: What's up man, My. 294 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 4: Guy, Matt? 295 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: How's everything? 296 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 4: Everything's good man, It's good to be here. Hey. 297 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: You're normally really prepping for the playoffs right now and 298 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: kind of getting them playoff grind. What does it kind 299 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: of feel like, you know, for the first time in 300 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: a lot of years to kind of just have your 301 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: april not doing that. 302 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 4: Miss it. It's been an adjustment, you know, just being 303 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 4: used to being in, like you said, playoff Mold preparing 304 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 4: end of the season for me, man, it's been a 305 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:01,599 Speaker 4: great it's been a great mental physical breakset to just 306 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 4: kind of step away and reset, man, and really be 307 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 4: able to watch the game from Afar and. 308 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: Just as a fan. Now it don't have to be exus. 309 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 4: No, I don't have no emotional attachments. You know. I 310 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 4: still still watch a lot of the guys that I've 311 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 4: had a chance to coach. You know, Look, I watch Austin, 312 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 4: you know, I watched RUI. Obviously me and Bron have 313 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 4: a lot of history. But being able to watch from 314 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 4: Afar and see these guys and just like you said, 315 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 4: not not having any attachment and being happy for them 316 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 4: whether they win, whether they lose, it's a it's a good, 317 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 4: good feeling to be there. 318 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: You brought up Austin reeves, in my opinion, the best 319 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: third option in the game, but of late his numbers 320 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: have been off the chart. Did you see that in him? 321 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 4: Younger? 322 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: Is this this new? Because to me, it's all confidence. 323 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: Obviously he works on this game, but I think it's 324 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: the belief in himself that he can go out there 325 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: and do it night and night out. And he's at 326 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: what is his last ten games or I mean games 327 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: plas six. 328 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 5: Fourteen, He's twenty six, five and five shooting forty five 329 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 5: fifty ninety five. 330 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: And keep it real, he might have one of the 331 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: deepest bags in the game. With our other brother Kyrie 332 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: on the sideline right now. I mean that's I mean, Phil, 333 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: what's going on? 334 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 4: Phil? 335 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: I know you put some groceries in that bag. 336 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 4: I saw that from day one? Did you really day one? Look? 337 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 4: I tell this story. The first time I met Austin, 338 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,479 Speaker 4: he was playing for our summer league team. He went undrafted. 339 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 4: He went undrafted. He was playing for our summer league team, 340 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 4: and I had never really I never met him, but 341 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 4: I saw clips of him playing college. So people think 342 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 4: this is just now matter. If you go back and 343 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 4: you watch a couple of his games at Oklahoma, he 344 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 4: got some shit with him like he back then. I 345 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 4: was like, hold up, man, just the chip on his shoulder, 346 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 4: and so I saw it. I went to the summer 347 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 4: league game and he wasn't shooting the ball, and it 348 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 4: was crazy. You asked Austin today. It was halftime. I 349 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 4: walked over and say, man, come here. Never met. I said, 350 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 4: you want to make this team, you need to shoot 351 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 4: the fucking ball, Like bro, you out here said, shoot 352 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 4: the ball man, you want to make this team. So 353 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 4: you know, that second half he played well. But when 354 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 4: Summer League was over and I had a chance to 355 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 4: get in the gym with him, right away, I saw 356 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 4: it and it wasn't so much his skill or his 357 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 4: shot making. It was just his inner belief. Like that 358 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 4: kid had had a SUPERB chip on his shoulder. Man, 359 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 4: and people people don't really know like his story. He 360 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 4: went through Summer League. You know that year, his first year, 361 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 4: we had Russ, we had Carmelo, we had Trevor, We 362 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 4: had all these veterans on our team, right and that 363 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 4: was you know, we had our little bron has his 364 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 4: little camp in Vegas. We had our mini camp. Austin 365 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 4: Reeves was the best player in the gym. He was 366 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 4: the best player in the gym and he started out 367 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 4: as a two way. When that camp was over, the 368 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 4: Lakers signed him. 369 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: I love to hear shit like that. 370 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 4: And so he just b his moxie, his his confidence. 371 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: And it doesn't come up not to cut you out. 372 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: It doesn't come off as cockiness. His confidence and belief 373 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: in himself. I felt that when I'm around him. You know, 374 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: he told an interesting story. We interviewed him, and he's 375 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: just like you know. They figured that they had a 376 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: couple of chances to possibly get picked later in the 377 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: second round, and they told the teams not to draft them, 378 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: and him and his team did a study and found 379 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: out that the Lakers would be a great fit for him. 380 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: And to see him tell that story, to hear the 381 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: stories you told us, and just to see where he is. 382 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: Is it five years later? For is it year four? 383 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: It's year four, year four? To me? Naming better third 384 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: I don't think you can name it better if that's 385 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: your third option. 386 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 4: That's doing this third option. And my vote for most 387 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 4: improved player. People not talking about they're not like that. 388 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 4: He should be in that category. And if not, the leader, 389 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 4: tell me another player, tell me another player that's played. 390 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: You can't to that level. 391 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 4: And just the body of work man. 392 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: And on that stage, I mean, I feel we all know. 393 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: I mean, coming to this Laker stage is a lot 394 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: that you could be a killer somewhere else, but it 395 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: takes a real killer to be madam. 396 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 4: You see Austin. Austin is a hoodie sweats. 397 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: He's he'll billy, he's hill billy golf. 398 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 4: He don't he don't care about none of that. Yeah, 399 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 4: you know for him the lights that man whatever, Hooper, 400 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 4: let's go Hoop. 401 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 1: I love it man, Congratulations bro, keep doing your thing. 402 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: Unrivaled first year in existence. From a coaching standpoint and 403 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: just a fan of the game, how did you drive? 404 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 4: How'd you like it? Totally different game? Like who man 405 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 4: that listen? That three on three full court concept is 406 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 4: pretty dope. Like it's it's dope to coach it. It's 407 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 4: tough for the athletes to play it. But just the 408 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 4: whole concept of being able to play in space shortened court. 409 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 4: You know, you just think about when you go to 410 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 4: a gym and you get a couple of dudes and 411 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 4: you play three on three full court. It's a good workout. 412 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 4: This is a little bit of a shortened court. It's 413 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 4: customized to it. And man, I just the game is 414 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 4: fast paced, it's physical. You know a lot of people 415 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 4: didn't really understand just these ladies are physical and they 416 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 4: play fast in this setting. So one, you better be 417 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 4: in shape. Two you better be able to defend just 418 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 4: a little bit, not just a little bit, right, you 419 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 4: get put on that island on three on three in 420 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 4: a full course setting, it's pretty tough, but man, just 421 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 4: the whole concept. Unrival did a great job in their 422 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 4: first year. You know, there's always some kinks and things 423 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 4: you got to figure out, but to pull this off 424 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 4: the way they did in such a ginormous way for 425 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 4: these ladies, man, was it was a big time, big 426 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 4: time opportunity for the ladies, for the coaches, everybody involved. 427 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 4: It was really good. 428 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: I know you've always been close to the women's game 429 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: and trained it and coached it now, but are there 430 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: some of the lays that surprised you still? Yes, during 431 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: this run. 432 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 4: Man, listen for me having an opportunity to really step 433 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 4: into the W and and be in their environment. Man, 434 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 4: it's some hoopers and I was completely not caught off guard. 435 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 4: But just like I wasn't familiar, Like I knew a 436 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 4: lot of the ladies and seen them play, but to 437 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 4: see them up close and see them some of these 438 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 4: ladies that probably don't get a chance to do on 439 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 4: their teams in the W they were able to come 440 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 4: to Unrivaled and just showcase, at least for me, some 441 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 4: things that I hadn't seen. So like Alyssa Gray, Alicia, 442 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 4: I want to make sure I pronounced I had not 443 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 4: seen her play. She was out there getting to it, 444 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 4: you know, like she was hitting threes, you know, in 445 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 4: the handle and I mean just playing free. So for me, 446 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 4: that's one example, Like even I had never really been 447 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 4: around Courtney Vandersloup, you know, savvy Vet just really there's 448 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 4: a list, man, there's a long list of being able 449 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 4: to watch these ladies up close. It was really eye 450 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 4: opening for me, but not in the sense of being surprised. 451 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 4: I knew they can hoop, but when you get close 452 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 4: to them, like, okay, I'll take it. 453 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: Really it's different too. I mean you'll see fans would 454 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: see if NBA guys are playing in the summer, that 455 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: freedom to kind of play your game and not have 456 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: to play your role as a whole other monster, and 457 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: you get to see different sides and really how good 458 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: people are you. 459 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 4: Know, work on your craft? Right? Look, I think that's 460 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 4: where this is where I unvivled for the women's game. 461 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 4: A lot of people ask me, We'll where can the 462 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 4: women's game grow? The development piece in the side, they 463 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 4: don't have time to develop most of these ladies what 464 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 4: they played in w and then they go to Europe, right, 465 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 4: so they play year round or then they have some 466 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 4: Olympic responsibilities. This was the first time that this group 467 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 4: of ladies said, I'm not gonna go to Europe. We're 468 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 4: gonna take ten weeks and we're gonna work on our 469 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 4: game and then we're gonna play. So they had an 470 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 4: opportunity to really understand what do these NBA guys do 471 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 4: seasons over what they do. They take care of the bodies, 472 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 4: they go work in the game. There's a development piece. 473 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 4: So I think that's where the w or women's basketball 474 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,719 Speaker 4: on the highest level is gonna see the biggest growth. 475 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 4: Now they have time to really focus on the development. 476 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 4: Let me focus on my body, let me get in 477 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 4: the weight room, let me do all these other things 478 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 4: that we've never done before. And I think the curve 479 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 4: is going to take maybe three to five years for 480 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 4: them to get used to it, for the coaches to 481 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 4: get used to it, and then just that become part 482 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 4: of just the whole women's ecosystem of how how they improved. 483 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 4: Do you think it's a good question? You know, I 484 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 4: think you will. I would be if I was a 485 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 4: betting man. You know, I think you can see it. 486 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 4: I think this year for her, she needed the break. 487 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 4: She went right from college into the w so she 488 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 4: again just not having no time off. I would be 489 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 4: surprised if she if she never plays. 490 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: Shout out to everybody. I mean the concept, the execution, 491 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: the ability to pay these women some good money so 492 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: that they can do everything you spoke about. What was 493 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: the what were the facilities like and rooming, everything was 494 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: where it needed to. 495 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 4: Be, excellent, top notch. So they picked you know, they 496 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 4: took this sound stage kind of place out Durral, Florida, 497 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 4: which is out by the airport, and they gutted the 498 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 4: whole place, built an arena custom arena said about nine 499 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 4: hundred people. They built a practice court behind the arena. 500 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 4: They had a weight room, hot cold tub, sauna, nutrition, 501 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 4: recovery everything. They had daycare, they had podcast studios, they 502 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 4: had estheticians, they had a makeup room. But they went 503 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 4: all out. 504 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: It's well, the shit you don't think of, you know, care, 505 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: it's just shit you don't think of. These women have to, 506 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: you know, hurdle over to be able to accomplish their goals. 507 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: So man shout out to everybody in unrival Man beautiful 508 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 1: first season. Definitely looking forward to the second season. On 509 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of a sour note. Juju and Kyrie 510 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: both acls, two people you know very well to put 511 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: people you've worked very closely with. Have you got a 512 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: chance to speak to them? And what's this journey like? 513 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people understand the journey 514 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: from injuries like this, the dark days, the days I 515 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: want to say fucking quit, the good days and the 516 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: better Like, what is this journey going to be like 517 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: for both of them in two different stages of their career. 518 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. Man, I've talked to both of them numerous times since, 519 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 4: you know, been on FaceTime with Kyrie a few times. 520 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 4: Kay gets it. You know, he's been he's he's been 521 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,239 Speaker 4: injured before. So his mind of just understanding what this 522 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 4: process is like is for him, it's like, I'm just 523 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 4: gonna take the time, get my body right, get my 524 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 4: mind right, spend time with my family. 525 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: And I like he show he's talking a little bit more. 526 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: He's kind of coming out. 527 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 4: Of his streams and people are going to get a 528 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 4: chance to see another side of Kay. So for him, man, 529 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 4: this is not what he wanted, you know, obviously with 530 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 4: the degree of some of the things that happened with 531 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 4: their team. But he's in a good place man, in 532 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 4: the sense of just understanding what this is about, and 533 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 4: so he's he's prepared for the journey. 534 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: You know. 535 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 4: Juju, on the other hand, was a little different. You know, 536 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 4: young athletes. Just the first time she's ever been injured, 537 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 4: and you know, just a natural thing as a young athlete, 538 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 4: her own personal goals. Just in the NCAA tournament, the 539 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 4: expectations and the first couple of days for her were 540 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 4: really tough just from a mental standpoint. But man, she's 541 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 4: got a great her inner circle, her family, her parents. 542 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 4: You know, I had a chance to talk with her 543 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 4: a number of times. We went to lunch, and she's 544 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 4: on the other side of that now. Yeah, she's like, 545 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 4: She's like, Phil, I'm man, I'm ready. I'm gonna come 546 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 4: back stronger. I understand that this is gonna be good 547 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 4: for me. I can work on my body. I get 548 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 4: a chance to work on other parts of the game 549 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 4: from a mental standpoint, you know, let me let me 550 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 4: understand the game from an IQ standpoint and dive into 551 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 4: those areas. So she's already she's already tracking in the 552 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 4: sense of I'm gonna be ready for this to come back. 553 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: It's a mental monster, and I think what's different is 554 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: that this is, unfortunately, but to their benefits, more of 555 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: a common injury Now. Aco used to be a huge 556 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: deal back in the day. Now it's a little, it's 557 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: more common. Medicine has improved. I'm definitely decided to see, 558 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: you know, her journey and her growth and you know, 559 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: obviously can Kai back out there and him kind of 560 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: showing different sides and kind of, like you said, understanding 561 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: what it is now. I mean, even with Juju's injury, 562 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: she damn near swept the award season, would an award, 563 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: AP Player of the Year, Natesmith Player of the Year, 564 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: Women's us USB A, us b w A Player of 565 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: the Year. I mean, what have you seen before injury again, 566 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: because you've been working with for a long time, just 567 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: kind of those steps that she's gradually been making. 568 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 4: You know what I love about her this year, Matt. 569 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 4: We obviously, you know, before I left one on arrival, 570 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 4: you know, we work out at least twice a week. 571 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 4: But when I left, she was like film, you know, 572 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 4: let's let's we gotta get on zoom. We gotta watch film. 573 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 4: So we we were trying to watch film at least 574 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 4: once a week, on zoom take some of her games 575 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 4: and just the student. The student part of the game 576 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 4: is where she's really trying to have the growth. I 577 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 4: think a lot of people look at Juju and just 578 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 4: see her talent, but she's like talked about her just 579 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 4: having her basketball IQ rise to the same level as 580 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 4: her talent. 581 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: Gary Boy scared. 582 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 4: That's where she's That's where I really love. Like we 583 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 4: would watch film and she was always always curious, what 584 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 4: about this, how do I read this? Okay, what's what's here? 585 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 4: And that part of the game for her, I saw 586 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 4: a lot of growth in terms of just her understanding 587 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 4: just her gravity and then how can I how can 588 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 4: I get better at making my teammates better? And so 589 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 4: just you know, just that part of the game for her. 590 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 4: Man she was She's always been very open to understanding 591 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 4: it's more to it, and then you know her, she 592 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 4: used the word anxious. She's like, sometimes I feel anxious 593 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 4: when I'm on the floor. In terms of scoring, I'm like, Jude, 594 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 4: you got the ball every possession. You don't have to 595 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 4: be anxious, right, the ball's gonna find you. So now, 596 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 4: how can you just slow the game down? Read the game? 597 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 4: If your teammates are open, throw them just a simple pass. 598 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: Just though that next level, that mental side. I know 599 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: that's something he wants to dominate as well, like that 600 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: mental aspect and focus. And I've told this story before, 601 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: but just him understanding. We were on a flight to 602 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: Spain and he had a bunch of courts and he 603 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: was figuring out where the rest of us were going 604 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,239 Speaker 1: to be open at because he's watching the guy. Now, 605 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: he's not watching the guy guarden him. He has one 606 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: eye on the help and the other eye on the 607 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: third defender. So where do I see you guys open that. 608 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: It's just that next level. And like you said, for 609 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: her mental, if her mental catches up to her skill set, 610 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: she has a chance to be the greatest coming ever. 611 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 4: It's coming. Well you heard it from Matt, you hear 612 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 4: from me. 613 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't gonna lie to you. Speaking of the 614 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: breakdown dynamic, I mean, we've been talking about what are 615 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: we gonna do together? And then obviously unrivaled happened. But 616 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: we need to put our plan together. Man, we got 617 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: to get you in the mix, in the loop. You're 618 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: already a part of the family, but we really got 619 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: to put your because I think your mind is incredibly 620 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: You're just you're you're, You're a Jedi when it comes 621 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: to this ship, and not only on the court, but 622 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: off the court, the mental side, and the film side, 623 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: and the breakdown side and the visionary side of it. 624 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: So we definitely gotta get back. 625 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 4: I don't know if they're ready for it, Matt ready 626 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 4: or not. 627 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: Motherfucker, I don't know they're ready for it. 628 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 4: We're gonna go deep into the bag man looking forward 629 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 4: to breaking news. 630 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 3: The Nuggets just fired Mike Malono. 631 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 4: They lost four to row. 632 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 3: And they just fired him now And this is the 633 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 3: second coach that this laten season. This doesn't happen. 634 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 4: So they fired the Grizzlies coach season the four games 635 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 4: before at the end of the regular. 636 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: Seasons, going to coach at one of the Yoga's brothers, Zan Keith. 637 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: This late the season is crazy. I mean, normally I 638 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: see if around All Star, but I mean, you're a 639 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: week from the playoff, two weeks from the playoffs, you're 640 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: the fourth seed right now, a game and a half 641 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: back from the third seed, and your coach is gone. 642 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 5: Game Peel, you played in the league forever I've had 643 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 5: I've coached the league for fourteen man right now, I'm 644 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 5: trying to I am the NBA in turn to look 645 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 5: that that phrase, I've used this phrase for people as 646 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 5: coaches of us. 647 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 4: We get hired to get fired. That is a real 648 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 4: phrase in the NBA. And it's unfortunate, like you always 649 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 4: try to wonder, like what the hell is going on 650 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 4: behind closed doors for Mike Malone to get fired, what's 651 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 4: going on behind closed doors for Taylor Jenkins to get fired? 652 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 4: And again it's a it's an unfortunate part of the business. 653 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 4: But I'm I'm completely shocked, it's crazy by that one. 654 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 4: And it's just as coaches, we know we come into 655 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 4: this environment, the great Popovitch of the world, the Steve 656 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 4: Curz of the world, you know, the Eric Sposer of 657 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 4: the world. That's their tenures. Those those tenures, man, are 658 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 4: those it's not it's not used to if you're a 659 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 4: head coach or if you're on a coaching staff somewhere 660 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 4: for four or five years, that's great, that's great longevity. 661 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: Because obviously it's more and we're not insinuating that had 662 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: anything to do with the players, but just the players 663 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: run the league now like there used to be a 664 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: line of of respect for coaches. And there was the 665 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: coaches where the highway when I came to the league 666 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: in the early two thousands. Now it's the players wear 667 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,239 Speaker 1: the highway. And again I'm not we're not insinuated by 668 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: any means this is a player move or anything like that. 669 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: It's just the players have more power now, so the 670 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: tenures of coaches are it's always going to be the coach. 671 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: It's going to be the scapego because the players are 672 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: making too much money. 673 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 4: That's the part of business that I have a problem 674 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 4: with in terms of how coaches are always the one 675 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 4: that's thrown under the bus. Look, everybody has a job 676 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 4: to do, right. I always say you have a job. 677 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 4: I make no qualms about it. But there's so much 678 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 4: stuff that goes into that that the coach is always 679 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 4: the first one at the doorstep, and there's always other 680 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 4: pieces to it. You know, there could be there could 681 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 4: be some decisions that the front office may have made 682 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 4: for your team that you had nothing to do with, Right, 683 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 4: but your adult your dealt the cards of having to 684 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 4: coach certain guys and if they don't play well, it's 685 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 4: your fault. 686 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: You're the one their decisions they made. 687 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. Sometimes so it's there's always a bigger picture to it, man. 688 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: So always more to it. Man, very solid coach, MANBA champion. 689 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: I've heard I've heard a lot of people speak really 690 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: highly of Mike Moves. I'm sure you know when he's ready, 691 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: he'll land back on his feet. But four games before 692 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: the playoffs is insane. The men's tournament, we just watched 693 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: the culmination, uh the other night of the championship. Before 694 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: we get there, I want to talk about Duke and 695 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: obviously them slipping up and execution down the stretch wasn't 696 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: what it needed to be to get past Houston. But 697 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: Cooper Flag potential number one pick in the draft. As 698 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: a basketball mind, what do you like and what have 699 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: you seen from Cooper Man? 700 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 4: His size, his athleticism, his mobility, just just his overall skill. 701 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 4: I've really been surprised by the kid, because again I 702 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 4: didn't have a chance to really watch him in high school, 703 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 4: but just what I've seen of him at Duke Man, 704 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 4: that kid is a kid has has a has a 705 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 4: deep deep too. His bag is pretty deep. 706 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: And he got a motor. That's one of my what 707 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: I'm talking. 708 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 4: About, Like, you don't usually don't see kids with that size, 709 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 4: like his motor, like the ability, and just how he 710 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 4: plays the game. It's gonna resonate well at the next 711 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 4: long any reclass. 712 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: He jumped up when everyone's trying to hold back two three, 713 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: four years and be twenty seven or twenty eight playing 714 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: college basketball. 715 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 4: That's rare. 716 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:13,959 Speaker 1: He was a real seventeen year old when he came 717 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: to college. 718 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 4: That's rare right there. 719 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: So Bechel definitely looking forward to seeing what he does 720 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: on the next So there was whispers him possibly going 721 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: back one more year. I don't think that's gonna I 722 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: think there's too much money on the table. But shit, 723 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: if anyone can do it, it'll be Cooper. 724 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 4: You live in that college life. 725 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: It's great. 726 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 4: People don't understand. 727 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: And now hold ony too. Now you get some money 728 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: ten million next to that college life. 729 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 4: Man, you the king. 730 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: I got twenty five hundred every three months. You couldn't 731 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: tell me shit. 732 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 4: Can Look, if he's decided to stay, he's an il deal. 733 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 4: It's not like he's not gonna make them money. Kid 734 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 4: will make some money. 735 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: And he'll have the insurance clause. Sure make sure everything 736 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: is good on the other side. But I would love 737 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: to see him play with the boozer boys. Florida crazy game. 738 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: You get a chance to watch the game, only watch 739 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: part of it. 740 00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 4: Great, you see the whole thing. 741 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: Houston is some fucking dogs. Calvin Sampson had them boys 742 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: playing out of their mind. But Florida, to me, stayed in, 743 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: you know, striking distance. And Clayton didn't have the best game, 744 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: but I think his teammates held him down the entire 745 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: time and they were able to. You know, we were 746 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: watching the game. I was like, yo, if he gets 747 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: if he gets the double digits, he gets twelve, thirteen, 748 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,479 Speaker 1: fourteen points, they're gonna win. And sure enough, he hit 749 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: it some you know, three down the stretch, got to 750 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: the foul line, saw the ball go through the hoop, 751 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: and Florida was able to pull off a good one. 752 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 4: Man. So is it Todd Todd? Is it Todd Gholsting? 753 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 4: Is how you pronounced his last name? Head coach? 754 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:34,479 Speaker 1: Now? 755 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 4: I'm saying it because I used to I used to 756 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 4: train Todd. Did you really he was at Saint Mary's College? 757 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: Is he the youngest or one of the youngest coaches 758 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: that ever win it? 759 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 4: Right? 760 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: Since like Jim Valvano or something, right, yeah. Also zero 761 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: five stars in the final game. 762 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 4: And Todd is man, congrats young fella. But sniper, he 763 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 4: himself was a sniper. Really shoot that thing man. So 764 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 4: just seeing him on the sidelines and seeing his his 765 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 4: growth mm hm is incredible. Man. Extremely happy for him 766 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 4: and what he's been able to do. But just what 767 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 4: I did see was Florida this year when I had 768 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 4: a chance to watch just a cohesiveness as a team, 769 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 4: the unit, like there is no that is a team 770 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 4: and understanding, now, look, we're we're gonna all do this 771 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 4: and tip in and do it together. And that's what 772 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 4: you see, you know, for them to be able to 773 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 4: be national champions. 774 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: The most valuable player of the Final four was a 775 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: zero star basketball recruit. Right, he was a football player first? 776 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 4: Right? 777 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: Or is that the other guy that was a football 778 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 1: player but just zero stars and he ends up being 779 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: the most valuable player in the Final four and winning 780 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: a national championship. The game has changed, feel too. And 781 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: then this is something I haven't necessarily been a fan of, 782 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: but I understand it because it's it's an option. But 783 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: just the age of kids playing outside of this duke team, 784 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: a lot of these teams were older teams that you know, 785 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: had three star, maybe some four star guys that have 786 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: been around, but no real five star. And on the 787 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: flip side, I think, you know the egos. You know, 788 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: I'm not saying five stars be tripping, but a good 789 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 1: chunk of five stars kind of have a different mindset. 790 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: But these teams are getting these older guys that have 791 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: kind of been around for a while and then able 792 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: to build teams with them and make you look at 793 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: the Auburns and you know, you look at you look 794 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: at Houston, you know, have some older guys. The new 795 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: landscape of college basketball I'm not a big fan of. Again, 796 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: I understand, I don't blame the players by any means. 797 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: I don't blame the coaches by any means, but you know, 798 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: I saw Rick Patino at one point say, hey, this offseason, 799 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: we're not recruiting any high school kids. What can the 800 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 1: high school kid do? And it just got me thinking, 801 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: like college is supposed to be for kids trying to 802 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: turn into men, and now the college is for men 803 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: with kids taking time away from other kids. 804 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I'm with you on that. Man. I think 805 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 4: there's so many caveats college game. Now one college basketball 806 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 4: is not what it used to be. It's free agency. Now. 807 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 4: Now look, I'm all for the athletes. I love that 808 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 4: the kids are getting paid, right, But what the NCAA 809 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 4: has done, they just created the wild wild West. To me, 810 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 4: no boundaries, no rules in the sense of of with 811 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 4: the n I LS. Right, you talk about the nils 812 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 4: and these contracts, how can you help prepare these young 813 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 4: men to be professional athletes? Right? So give them some boundaries. 814 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 4: All right, fine, we're gonna we're gonna pay you and 815 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 4: give you n I L. But you signed this contract, 816 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 4: whether it be two years, then you're committed to that 817 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 4: contract or you have to pay the buy out one 818 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 4: of the rules, right, make some rules to where everybody's protected. Coaches, players, 819 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 4: all all alike. But the portal. And again I've learned, 820 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 4: been learning more. That's what has exiled high school kids. 821 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 4: You know, now you and then you take all of 822 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 4: these rules. Now, what's the new rules? Junior college players 823 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 4: have junior college years or they don't count. I went 824 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 4: to JUCO, you know, and so when no one out, 825 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 4: Juko only had two years left or a year left. 826 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 4: Now these are exemple So look, I think there's two 827 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 4: sides of it. As a coach, I would like mature players. Right, 828 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 4: As a coach, you want mature players. That kind of 829 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 4: really hurts the young players because some of them are 830 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 4: gonna need time to to raise that level of maturity, 831 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 4: not just mentally but physically the whole piece. So you 832 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 4: take these guys that are four year, five year, six years, 833 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 4: sixth year, I mean it's now you have a team 834 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,760 Speaker 4: of experienced players that. 835 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: And it shows like we know the game and understanding. 836 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: That's why we don't blame the players or the coaches, 837 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 1: because I mean, you want to win. But that's the 838 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,879 Speaker 1: one reason why I was rooting for Duke, because Duke 839 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,479 Speaker 1: had four freshmen that were instrumental in their run. 840 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 4: You got you got two. 841 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 1: Boys, Yeah you go, I'm coming with the two young 842 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: bucks that you boys. 843 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, you want opportunity boys to go through. 844 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: And like I said, it was just it was weird 845 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: because you know, when we're you're a little bit older 846 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 1: than me. When we were coming up, we always played 847 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: always played up. We never wanted to play down. We 848 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 1: never wanted to hold back or hold back twice like 849 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: what like what are you running from? Like I was 850 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: in eighth grade walking across street, playing with the varsity team, 851 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: like and just just the game has changed so much. 852 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 4: That's why you get better. Yeah, get your head cracked. 853 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 1: Because there's only so much you can running, you can 854 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: do only so much jumping in the port, transfering. I'm 855 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 1: hitting some adversity, I'm not gonna take it on the 856 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: chin and I'm gonna run. 857 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 4: Get tired of get tired of getting whooped. That's what 858 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 4: that's only, that's what motivates you. Be Like, Okay, what 859 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:10,879 Speaker 4: I'm coming back for y'all? 860 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: Phil, We're gonna see you back in the league. What's 861 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: going on? 862 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 2: Man? 863 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 1: I know that's the personal question, But is that something 864 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: are we gonna Is that something you're looking into this? 865 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: You know, obviously having a nice little break and doing 866 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: something different with the unrivaled, but when we see you 867 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: back in the NBA eighties. 868 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I'm looking out for now. Man, I'm a 869 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 4: coach at like I'm a coach at hard now. So 870 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 4: for me, it's really about the right opportunity. I've had 871 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 4: a chance to as a coach, experience everything, winning at 872 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 4: the highest level, experienced coaching some of the best players. 873 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 4: I just want to be able to continue to impact 874 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 4: the game. With the players and then whatever organization, I'm 875 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 4: working for the value of what I bring as a 876 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 4: coach in terms of the development. That's just the easy. 877 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 4: But I think people don't really a lot of people 878 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 4: don't understand who I am as a coach with the 879 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 4: x'es and O's. 880 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: Talk about that because I think you've been laid well 881 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: rightfully so, because you are one of the best in 882 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: that space, is one of the best player development. But 883 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: there's so much more to your coaching and to your philosophy. 884 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: And I think sometimes labels, even if people think it's oh, 885 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: he's one of the best developing, there's so much more 886 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 1: to you and that label can sometimes hurt you when 887 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: organizations are looking for can this guy run my franchise? 888 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: M And I'm a firm believer there's people like you 889 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: and Rico Hines that can be head coaches of NBA 890 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 1: teams but are labeled as developing guys. 891 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 4: I mean, you got to start somewhere. Everybody evolves, everybody 892 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 4: gets better. You name me one head coach that's in 893 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 4: the NBA now that started out where they are. They 894 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 4: all came in some way, whether they were video coordinators 895 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 4: or scouts, and they work their way up into being 896 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 4: in that position. My journey is no different, man, just's 897 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 4: I want to say, it's a blessing and a curse 898 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 4: sometimes because I've been really good at my job, right, 899 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,839 Speaker 4: but in that process, man, Man, you want to talk 900 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 4: about my education, the coaches that I've coached under, I 901 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 4: have a high level education. Mike Brown, Mike D'Antoni, t Lou, 902 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,280 Speaker 4: David Blatt, Nick Nurse, Frank Vogel, you know, even Darvin 903 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 4: Ham Like, that's some high level coaches. And my bag 904 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 4: of understanding the game from a defense and an offense 905 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 4: and schemes. Man, I have probably the best, one of 906 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 4: the best to mentor and tutoring aspects of understanding the 907 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 4: game from all different angles. And so for me, it's 908 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 4: just just the right opportunity, man. You know, I don't 909 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 4: I don't feel bad or get angry that people try 910 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 4: to put me in that box. It's just, you know, 911 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 4: when the time comes and I have an opportunity to 912 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 4: interview for the right people, they will understand about my 913 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 4: knowledge and who I am. I am as a coach. 914 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 4: The development piece is just that was just my avenue 915 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 4: to become an NBA coach, and so over the years, 916 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 4: I've had a chance to really grow and become better 917 00:40:59,200 --> 00:40:59,720 Speaker 4: at my craft. 918 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: We'll feel man, thank you for you. 919 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 3: Calvin Booth. 920 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 4: Booth's third year. 921 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: He came in for Conley, who is the one that 922 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,240 Speaker 1: really put that team together. 923 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 4: In the Minnesota right Something's going on internally, man, Yeah, 924 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,280 Speaker 4: something something internally behind the doors. 925 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,240 Speaker 1: Calvin Booth is out, Mike Malone is out four games 926 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 1: before the playoffs. Ship is going on in Denver. Stay tuned, 927 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: Stay tuned because to me, I mean Denver is still 928 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: one of those teams that has the pedigree and they're 929 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 1: an older team because the West is top heavy with 930 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: young teams. So we know, you know, to beat the 931 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: team seven times in. 932 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 4: The mix. 933 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 1: If you want to losing for in a row before that, 934 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, just is that reason to fire something. 935 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 1: We'll peel. Appreciate your time, man, We'll definitely catch up. 936 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 4: Appreciate you. 937 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. That's a wrap for Unplugged. Hope you 938 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 1: guys enjoyed this week. You can catch this on the 939 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: DraftKings Network and all the Smokest Productions YouTube. We'll see 940 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,839 Speaker 1: you guys this week.