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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to sixty one,

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Speaker 1: Episode one of Dirt Nightley's Like Guys Say production of

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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's scared consciousness. I just did

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Speaker 1: that right there, Tope. Because it's Monday, October thirty one, Halloween, baby,

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Speaker 1: you are so turned to wow it. Hello, I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at me. I'm in my Halloween costume. Yeah, sexy green goblin.

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Speaker 1: Sexy green Goblin to see it. You know, I'm a

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Speaker 1: bit of a podcast for myself. Um let's see. It's

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Speaker 1: also October thirty one, which means Reformation Day. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if that has to do with religious stuff, World

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Speaker 1: Saving Day, World Cities and whatever. It's sucking Halloween. Man,

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Speaker 1: who is putting their national like day of Recognition magic

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Speaker 1: on Halloween? Magic? National Magic Day, National Knock Knock Joke Day,

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Speaker 1: Like knock knock jokes, knock jokes, you need your own

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Speaker 1: day that's not Halloween. I guess that makes sense in

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Speaker 1: a trigger treat sense. But so many knock knock jokes

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Speaker 1: have nothing to do with Halloween. Guys, Come on, how

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Speaker 1: many times you have to tell you this National knock

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Speaker 1: knock joke Associational National money Takers to add a sentence

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Speaker 1: to a website. People, anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien

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Speaker 1: a k. These thighs are crying. These thighs have seen

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Speaker 1: a lot of loves, but they're never gonna see another

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Speaker 1: one like I had with Do There is courtesy of

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Speaker 1: gold John Ion, and I'm thrilled to be joined as

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Speaker 1: always by my co host, Mr Miles grad right from

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Speaker 1: the murky depths of the San Fernando Valley where people

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Speaker 1: were three one oh area code dare not venture comes

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Speaker 1: my was Grave and you will be doing the entire

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Speaker 1: episode and that spooky Oh yeah, it's I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: it like Paul Bear, who was the Undertaker's hype man. No, well, Miles,

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Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat

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Speaker 1: by a true renaissance man. Not in the sense that

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Speaker 1: he's an alcoholic who wears tights and doesn't bathe. He

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Speaker 1: can do a lot of ship very well, yes that sense.

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Speaker 1: He's an actor, songwriter, musician who's co written songs for

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Speaker 1: the Ghost of Molly McGee and Tots T O t

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Speaker 1: S on Disney Channel and Disney Junior, respectively. And then

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Speaker 1: he's in a movie called Barbarian. I'm told we're not

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Speaker 1: supposed to talk too much about too much detail. Please

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Speaker 1: welcome the brilliant, the talented Matthew Patrick david Thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me. All what's up? How you doing? Man? Are

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Speaker 1: we so all right? It's gonna be straight with you,

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Speaker 1: right right up top. I've watched the first ten minutes

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Speaker 1: of Barbarian. Okay, it just came out on so tell

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Speaker 1: so tell me the plot. No, no, I know, like,

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Speaker 1: this is a movie I have avoided spoilers with for

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Speaker 1: the longest. Like it. It's it is the most spoiler tastic.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's like, yo, just like, don't find anything out. I

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Speaker 1: watched the first ten minutes and still have no idea

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Speaker 1: what's happening thus far. A woman has showed up at

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Speaker 1: an Airbnb to find with Pete Davidson. I in hot dude.

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Speaker 1: So that that's all I got. That's why I was

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Speaker 1: so here. Here's my guesses, right because I'm told it's

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Speaker 1: gonna keep me guessing on the genre front. I'm guessing

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Speaker 1: somebody finally did my idea and you know, shot and

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Speaker 1: acted at a level of a major motion picture. But

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Speaker 1: it's actually hardcore pornography. Matthew, what what do you am?

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Speaker 1: I am? I did? I? Did I nail it? Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't give you spoilers, but yes,

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Speaker 1: full penetration is involved. Wow, okay, Jack, you are right. Hey,

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Speaker 1: every time you go to Airbnb or like, man, someone

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Speaker 1: should fucking one of these, that's right, and they and

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Speaker 1: they have. In every Airbnb people have fucked. Just think

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Speaker 1: of that when you lie on that bed. How many people? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's one of the most popular movies

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Speaker 1: of the past five six months, like of the of

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Speaker 1: the of the year. Really it's like a sensation. But

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Speaker 1: it's also a movie that is under wraps and you

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Speaker 1: are not supposed to like talk about it or even like,

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Speaker 1: am I even allowed to say you were in it?

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Speaker 1: How's that work? I think you can say that, Okay, Um,

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Speaker 1: I can say. I'm willing to say that I'm in it.

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Speaker 1: I'm unrecognizable. Prosthetics are involved, That's all. That's all I'll say.

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Speaker 1: And I play a scary person. We can say that too, Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: but you know, beyond that, just watch it and preferably

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Speaker 1: not in ten minute increments, and you give it a

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Speaker 1: good proper go but you know, live your life. I'm

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Speaker 1: doing for Halloween tonight because I have no No one

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Speaker 1: let's make it a spooky night for sure four year old,

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Speaker 1: a six year old and a wife who doesn't really

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Speaker 1: back rewind rewatch the first ten minutes and watch it

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Speaker 1: all in the dark by myself. There you go tonight

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Speaker 1: for Halloween perfect. I like the too, Like Matthew, I've

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Speaker 1: seeing other interviews with you where people like have no

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Speaker 1: consideration for the audience and they're like, so like, who

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Speaker 1: are you in the movie and just explain that out

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Speaker 1: loud right now in the plot and everybody. There's one

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Speaker 1: where I just say, you'd be like, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that's uh like a spoiler a word in this interview.

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Speaker 1: It's weird. I I don't usually do podcasts, and um,

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Speaker 1: I'm only thank you, no no, no, no, I'm raising

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Speaker 1: myself like usually I don't like talking about myself, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I love podcasts, and I'm like I don't die,

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Speaker 1: point right now, I'm rambling, and but but this I

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Speaker 1: did some of the most insane things with my co

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Speaker 1: love talking about it. But then it's funny. You can

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Speaker 1: only really be on spoilery podcasts and ones that aren't spoilers.

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Speaker 1: Then you have no stories to tell and you can't

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Speaker 1: be interesting, and everyone's like, I think that guy was

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Speaker 1: fucking lying about being vague, like noncommittal to stuff he

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Speaker 1: didn't even know the plot are his own character. All right,

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Speaker 1: We're going to get to know you a little bit

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Speaker 1: better in a moment because we we we believe you

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Speaker 1: are out uninteresting, thank you interesting, So we'll get to

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Speaker 1: know you a little bit better in a moment. First,

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Speaker 1: a couple of things we're talking about. We're gonna do

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Speaker 1: a quick update on inflation as it relates to the

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Speaker 1: New York Times on that same day dropped a an

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Speaker 1: article like spiking the football and how well, we've turned

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about the mic rib. More importantly, we might

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Speaker 1: not talk about any of that climate change ship. We

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Speaker 1: might just talk about the mic rib. To be honest

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Speaker 1: with you, before we get to any of that bullshit, Matthew,

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Speaker 1: we do like to ask our guests, what is something

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Speaker 1: from your search history? Oh? Alright, so well, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: But what I wanted to I also saw an Espresso

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Speaker 1: that brings me to I listened to last yesterday's podcast,

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Speaker 1: y'all mentioned something that I wanted to ask you about,

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Speaker 1: because that trip was my first time doing mushrooms. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and you mentioned yesterday that like baby brain is the

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Speaker 1: same as high brain or trip brain or something. Is

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Speaker 1: that what you said? That's tell tell, That's just a

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Speaker 1: theory I have. So there, you know. One of one

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Speaker 1: of the first and most influential things written about psychedelics

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Speaker 1: was just out as Huxley doing psychedelics, writing very detailed

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Speaker 1: is kind of my theory. Just overwhelmed at input, yes,

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Speaker 1: blowing my mind. You know, I see like the glass

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Speaker 1: get older. Yeah, and and nature is already worthy of attention,

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Speaker 1: every man. Well, we're giving it to every man that

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Speaker 1: owned stock. We're Robin hood, got you, Biden. He's kind

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Speaker 1: of like the logic we constantly see. It's really it is.

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Speaker 1: It is really hard to watch. And I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: like to your point, Jack of like what happens? What

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Speaker 1: do we do? What's going on? We're like we also

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Speaker 1: talk about, like the New York Times how they also

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00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: have a hand in me like yeah, let me yes,

432
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: and also let me obscure what's going on to because

433
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Speaker 1: of also just the nature of how our media is,

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00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: you know, fossil the fossil fuel industry has a direct

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Speaker 1: line into every newspaper to publish it, like and mostly

436
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: through like sponsored content, but still they still have a

437
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 1: hand in that, which makes it even more insidious when

438
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: you're like trying to also be like don't worry, chill out,

439
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: chill out. And also here's some spahn con from Exxon.

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00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: Spun con from Exxon. Yeah, I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: the people who work at the New York Times, you know,

442
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: you a lot of a lot of those people get

443
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: there from having unpaid internships and you know, probably went

444
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: to Ivy League schools with a lot of the people

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00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: who are these like masters of the global economy, and

446
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: I think they're just inside this worldview that makes them

447
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: incapable of just like taking a step back and being

448
00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 1: like we're facing a World War two level challenge, Like

449
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: that's the last time that everybody had a challenge that

450
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: was like you know, existential, and everyone has to mobilize,

451
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: everyone has to coordinate, and instead these motherfuckers are like

452
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: doing the opposite in order to enrich themselves. Like that

453
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: that's bad, but they like the there is just this

454
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: like interconnected web of like you know, marketing and investment

455
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: and finance. That just makes it sort of it's like

456
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 1: impossible to pierce, you know, it's you can't get through it.

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00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: And and I think it leads to a lot of

458
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: just feelings of helplessness and confusion. And then people with

459
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: that confusion, you know, either to you know, keep digging

460
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: and keep pushing, or you know, fascism becomes an easy

461
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: answer where we just like have someone to look at

462
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: and be like that that's the bad guy, because somebody's

463
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: at least giving me a bad guy to root against.

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00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: Like it's interesting me, Like, no oil CEOs. I was like,

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Speaker 1: let me like look up Darren Woods and Mike Worth,

466
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: like these CEOs of these energy companies, and they're just

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Speaker 1: I've never seen their pictures before. I've never really a

468
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: good reason heard them like mentioned that often other than

469
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: if I like go digging on the business page and

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00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 1: reports about how well they're doing their job, and it's

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Speaker 1: just like, no, we we need villains. People need villains

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Speaker 1: to understand this, and the mainstream media is just kind

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Speaker 1: of ignoring their role as storytellers to to make sense

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Speaker 1: of this. It feels like in a lot of ways,

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Speaker 1: well they tell stories through like I said, spot Con,

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Speaker 1: you know, like like the New York Times, I think

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00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: really has they they got to take a real long

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00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: look in the mirror. But that's all the time. But

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Speaker 1: I think for them to you know, published stuff, like

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Speaker 1: if they always say stuff like we put out the

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Speaker 1: most content about climate change without really being honest about

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Speaker 1: their like what they do for like fossil fuel financed

483
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Speaker 1: content within the paper. It's kind of a bad look.

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Speaker 1: You know. They have this thing called T Brand Studios,

485
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: which is their custom content advertiser like studio, like any

486
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: company has, like the thing where they do we'll do

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Speaker 1: stuff with branded branded content. And they actively make this

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00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: like native advertising for like x on, Shell, Chevron, and

489
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: the ads look like like New York Times editorial pieces,

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Speaker 1: Like it's the same font package, everything stylistically looks the same.

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00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: You'll see a bug at the top that does say

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00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: this is an advertisement. But again, the like the posts

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00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: just completely misrepresent what the companies are actually doing. So

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Speaker 1: like one will be for like Shell and it will

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Speaker 1: say like, yeah, looking into you know, bio fuel, Sorry,

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Speaker 1: x on mobiles looking into bio fuel research and et etcetera, etcetera,

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Speaker 1: to sort of make it seem like yeah, x On

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Speaker 1: is actually all in on figuring out how we get

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Speaker 1: out of this when they're not like in these companies aren't.

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Speaker 1: Everything they're doing is saying, let's get the let's get

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Speaker 1: as much money as possible, and let's not make the

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Speaker 1: same mistake the tobacco industry did, which was to like

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Speaker 1: allow the narrative to get out of our control. And

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00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:23,239
Speaker 1: look what happened there. Yeah, and they like, it's not

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Speaker 1: just that they are like putting these articles up that

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Speaker 1: might full people, but those articles are extraordinarily lucrative for

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Speaker 1: the New York Times. They're the thing that funds the

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Speaker 1: New York Times. So is the New York Times then

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Speaker 1: going to turn around and be like, here are the

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Speaker 1: faces of the enemy. Here's Mike Worth. Yeah, here's Mike Worth.

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Speaker 1: He is the one who is on a day to

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Speaker 1: day basis, you know, choosing instead of instead of choosing

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Speaker 1: to take these record profits and invest them back into

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Speaker 1: renewables and like change the landscape of how you know

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Speaker 1: the world has power. He is you know, buying back

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Speaker 1: stock so that his shareholders are happy, so that he

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Speaker 1: can continue to be paid you know, thousands of times

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Speaker 1: more than you know, most CEOs throughout history would reasonably

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Speaker 1: be able to pay themselves without being ashamed. Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 1: We need to like have like a deck of cards

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Speaker 1: that has all the fossil fuel executives on it like

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00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: they did would in the day. These are the people

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Speaker 1: in the teleband deck of cards, where it's like just

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00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: so you know, just get familiar with the people who

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Speaker 1: are decision makers and a lot of this stuff, who

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Speaker 1: are have a real active role in whether obscuring your

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Speaker 1: understanding of climate change or saying like fuck it, like

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Speaker 1: just cut the brakes on this thing and let's just

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Speaker 1: keep going. Yeah. There's a big New York Times magazine

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Speaker 1: feature that came out at the end of last week

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Speaker 1: into like right in line with the u N Report,

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00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: and it's basically like, yeah, it'll be bad for some people,

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00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: but not everyone, such as life, our entire civilization won't end,

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00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: you know, leaving out the importance some civilizations will end

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00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: part of the equation, and just like our entire global world.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's basically like taking the worst case scenarios

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Speaker 1: that people were saying, like five ten years ago was

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Speaker 1: possible if we did nothing, and being like, man, it's

539
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: not that bad. We're not going up by five degrees celsius.

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Speaker 1: We're only going up by two two degrees celsius. First

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Speaker 1: of all, we have to continue to make big changes

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00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: in order to cut it to just two degrees celsius.

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00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: But two degree celsius is going to like destroy the

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Speaker 1: ability for people to live in their home country, like

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Speaker 1: entire countries. Like it's yeah, it's going to flood the

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00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: like lots of places where people have been living for

547
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Speaker 1: generations and generations, is going to make life brutally hard,

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Speaker 1: and it's going to kill a lot of people. And

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00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: that's some people, Jack, That's some people. And that seems

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Speaker 1: to be the thesis of the article. Is like when

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00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,479
Speaker 1: you take a step back, though, it's like, yeah, you know,

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00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: people die, and it's right. It's it's interesting that this

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00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: came out in line with you and report. Yeah, I'm

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00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: glad that you guys brought this up because I get

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Speaker 1: the daily you know, New York Times email thing that

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Speaker 1: kind of his assumpation of the paper, and uh, as

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00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: a lazy reader, I often will read that email and

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00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: not read the articles, you know, but even what they

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00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: put in that email was still like the subject line

560
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: was the climate's improved future I was like, oh, well,

561
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: so we got some good news on the horizon. That's great.

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00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: And then uh and then in the little the clip

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00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: in the email, it said, uh, a new world well

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Speaker 1: past climate normal. Alright, so it's well past climate normal

565
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: and yet mercifully short of true climate apocalypse. Right, so

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00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: brained this like optimistic message. It's uh yeah, it was

567
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: very strange. I'm glad you guys pointed that out, because

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00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: I yeah, yeah, wait, wait, wait what I mean? This

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00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: weird the wrong side to subdue people when drastic action

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00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: is needed. Yeah, and for lazy readers like myself, many

571
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: people could just go, oh great, it's fixed. Okay, so

572
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: it's not that bad. No no, no, no, no, no, no

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00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: no no. The fucking scientists are like, hey, assholes, you're

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00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: falling woefully short here. Yeah. And for a long time

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Speaker 1: I relied on The New York Times too, Like it's

576
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: only through like having to do this show every day

577
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: and paying attention to all these stories that I'm like, oh,

578
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: there they really is like what the cynical people like.

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00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: What I used to think was sort of like people

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00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: just being doom and gloom and you know, like I

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00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: just thought if the New York Times said it was

582
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: good enough, it's good enough, and it's like, no, it's

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00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: The New York Times is a for profit institution funded

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00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: by these massive, multibillion dollar energy companies, and that's that's

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00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: where this messaging is is coming from. You know, it's

586
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 1: not like they're coming out and completely telling the shell

587
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: version of things. They're acknowledging there is a problem, but

588
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: they are putting a like kind of polish on it

589
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: that makes it seem like, hey, guys, where you can

590
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: you can kind of ease up on the on the concern. Yeah,

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00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: it's it's just interesting, like when The New York Times

592
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: banned when they said they wouldn't do tobacco advertising anymore, Yeah,

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00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: they were. They weren't being like, it's not because it's

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00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: an activist thing, it's a journalism thing. Like we're not

595
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: gonna we're not going to pretend that this product won't

596
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: cause terrible health outcomes and then profit from that. And

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00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: people at the time we're like, wow, okay, cool, The

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00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: Guardian doesn't take any money from the fossil fuel industry,

599
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: and like they drew a line there and they're like, yeah,

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00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: that's completely fucked up. Like we we've identified this indus three,

601
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: as you know, directly relating to a lot of the

602
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: terrible pollution issues that we have. And like now with

603
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: its people asked The Times, We're like, well what about this,

604
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: Like it's established what fosse burning fossil fuels is doing

605
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: to the earth and that's terrible for people's safety and health.

606
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: Why not the same standards anymore? And I think that's

607
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: really telling, especially like when like it was it was

608
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: it still owned by who owns The Times now not Salzburger,

609
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: but before like the previous owners were talking about like

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00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,959
Speaker 1: the science is dense, a billionaire faith bindeness. I can't

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00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: between other than Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos. That's that's

612
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: all my brain has room for. Yeah, and so I

613
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: think what we're seeing, oh no, it still is the

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00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: Salzburgers Like so it there's just this they found a

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00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: way to rhetorically change, like change the goal posts as

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00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: to why like fossil fuel money is different than tobacco money,

617
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: and it's again it's truly at our own peril, Like

618
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: when the whole point of being able to inform people

619
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: is to just say, like this is quite literally what

620
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: is going on? Yeah, and it's and it's understandable. It's not.

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00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: It's not a like web of like algorithms and things

622
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 1: that you couldn't possibly understand, So don't even bother. It's understandable.

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Speaker 1: Inflation is understandable. I just had to go to the

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00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 1: Guardian to find to find the only understandable explanation for

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00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: which is that the narrative of inflation allows c e

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Speaker 1: o s to raise prices and they're just making more

627
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: money if you just connect, like they're raising prices and

628
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: then you go to their like earnings calls and they're like,

629
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: we're making way more money. We raised our prices. We're

630
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: making twenty more profit. It's sucking, it's amazing. But again,

631
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: like the the Guardian, a UK paper, has made that

632
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: change where they're not accepting money from these corporate donors

633
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: who are corporate interests who want to obscure that, and

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Speaker 1: they're the one place you can go to like actually

635
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: find someone making sense of it. I don't think that's

636
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: a I don't think that's a mistake. Yeah, all right,

637
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: well enough of that ship. Let's take a quick break

638
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: and we'll come back and talk about the mac rib

639
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: Thank god, and we're back and the make rib is

640
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 1: coming back to McDonald we go away again for what

641
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: quote might be the last time did they say that

642
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: every time about the mac rib. There have been multiple

643
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: farewell tours for the make First. First off, do Matthew,

644
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 1: you do eat the macrib? Ever, I have never eaten one,

645
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: never even had iver a make rib. Oh, Miles, you

646
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: would love the Mick rib man. Really yeah, I'm not

647
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: like so the oh well, let me tell you why.

648
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,959
Speaker 1: Like the reasons from my perception right when I first

649
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: heard of it as somebody who grew up in a

650
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 1: barbecuing family, Like, the word rib has a quite literal

651
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: meaning to me. So when I heard of the Mick Rib,

652
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, and I saw it on the thing, I'm like,

653
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: you can just bite the bones and ship right, because

654
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: they do like crafted into a sponge that has bone

655
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: shapes like bone mark, Yeah, bone from gradiation and that's

656
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: and that's their logo for it is you can bite

657
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: the bones. Yeah, And I'm like, so that always put

658
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: me off, the simulated bones. I was like, that's weird.

659
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: I love simulated bones. But good, that's me. No matter what,

660
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: no matter when it's a it's it's real. Mushy is

661
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: the thing that you don't expect. It's like it gives you,

662
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: I think, more than any other piece of McDonald's meat.

663
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: It gives you the sense of like your The reason

664
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: I was saying you might like it is because of

665
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: your taste and fries, which is you like you like

666
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: the when you when you eat a fry, you like

667
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: for it to be like falling apart in your hand

668
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: as you just like fling it into your mouth. That's

669
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: kind of the vibe you get from the make rip. No. Yeah,

670
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: the like mushy meat, Yeah, I don't like what is it?

671
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: Like a floppy foam is kind of the but but

672
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: it's all it's it's the whole thing is kind of

673
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: in just delivering a impressionistic take of like what barbecue

674
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: would be in the mind of an alien, you know,

675
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: to two thousand years after humanity and all of our

676
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: you know, they they've just read about it, and this

677
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: is like an impression of like we we think this

678
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: is what they were doing with with that. It has

679
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: the essence of smoke and meat. It just doesn't have

680
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: any of that. Really, I guess it is made of pork, right,

681
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: It just has such lab experiment vibes. Yes, when I

682
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 1: look at it, I'm like, Okay, who thought this ship

683
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: up and thought that was like a good thing to eat? Well,

684
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: we I can tell you. So. First of all, the

685
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: people who thought up the marketing farewell tour is the

686
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: music industry, which that that was my first thought when

687
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: I saw, Oh, they're doing another farewell tour. This reminds

688
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: me of like every Rolling Stones tour when the last

689
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: time the Eagles the Rolling Stones. The share apparently has

690
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: done like dozens of farewell tours. So, but as for

691
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: the history of the mcribb, it was first developed utilizing

692
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: military technology to restructure meat for soldiers. Well, my restructure

693
00:41:54,360 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 1: meat for soldiers. Yes, I'm getting hungry, Yeah, yama, yamma.

694
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: Go on, So why why haven't they used uh, you know,

695
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: they also made food for space food. You ever eaten

696
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: that space food? Space food vibes, crunchy foam, you know.

697
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: I also use that for for McDonald's things more often.

698
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 1: I think, is this reminds me of that? It reminds

699
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: me of like I just watched two thousand one Space

700
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: Obyssey again and they have that scene where they're like

701
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: going to the moon base and they're like they've really

702
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: like gotten the feel of regular food. As they're eating

703
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: the sandwiches, they're like, this is chick like. It kind

704
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: of feels like that. It's like, Oh, they've done a

705
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: pretty good job using just the restructured concept of meat.

706
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: Or isn't that what chicken nuggets are too? It's just

707
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: like this goop. I was just gonna say, like, chicken

708
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: nuggets definitely feel more like you're getting chicken like. They

709
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: feel more like you can sense the presence of chicken

710
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: more in a chicken nugget then you can sense the

711
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: presence of ribs in a micrib. I feel they're so

712
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: chicken nuggets to me, or like its own food group

713
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: in a way. I'm like, yeah, fried chewy nugs with

714
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: meat flavor. I think mac rubb pulls pushes it even

715
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: further in the direction of new food group. Got it.

716
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: It comes out in two and it is a huge flop.

717
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: It's premiered in eight two and immediately starts disappearing in

718
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: a D two three. The mcribb is basically gone, except

719
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: it will reappear suddenly in some places, only to disappear

720
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: again with no one really knowing how or why. Right

721
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: then comes the flint Stones, movie in the nine nineties

722
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: and John like John Goodman, great Philip Yes, Rose O'donald

723
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 1: Rose O'donald, thank you? Who was the other? Oh? Sorry,

724
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: just to say it was Elizabeth Perkins was Wilma okay,

725
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: rosiodoxins Berry was Sharon Stone? Was her name? That's right,

726
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: Halle Berry, Sharon Stone? That was her? Like Stone Stone's name.

727
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: Did they try and cast Sharon Stone and like have

728
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: to recast at the last moment? I don't know. I

729
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: think maybe it was just like it was such a

730
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: nineties film that they're like, this is a great name

731
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: to a folk because it has a rock word in it.

732
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: Yeah it's a pun. Oh yeah, no, it works. It

733
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: works for me, but it is weird to be like,

734
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: and halle Berry as Sharon Stone does sound like we

735
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: sentenced to say. But so they bring it back for

736
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: that and wait, so wait is the Mick ribs supposed

737
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,479
Speaker 1: to be dinosaur ribs because you know, Fred flint Stone

738
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: would eat giant bronosaurus ribs. And so they were like

739
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: there you go, like that's the thing, and this is

740
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: going to be the biggest hit movie of all time,

741
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: So we're gonna we're gonna, you know, reintroduce a food

742
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: stone and psily for the flint stone and kids of

743
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: the vitamins. Yeah, that's right exactly. I mean people like

744
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: eating things having to do with the flint stones. There's

745
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: something about that. And smoking Winston cigarettes. Kids also like that.

746
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: But if you if you've seen the Fred Flintstone and

747
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: Barney having a nice Winston behind the house commercials from

748
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 1: the nineteen six and seven perfect so flints. Mcribb stays

749
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: on the menu again, but in two thousand five it

750
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: went on you guessed it, a farewell tour. That's two

751
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: thousand five, so seventeen years ago. Okay, it goes on

752
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: its first farewell tour, followed by three more farewell tours.

753
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: You can like, go back and look at there's images

754
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: mac ribb the farewell tour to two thousand and six.

755
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: Theories abound that McDonald's is actually releasing and recalling the

756
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: mcribb in direct reaction to fluctuating pork prices, and if

757
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 1: you like, go back and map the appearance and the

758
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: farewell tours of the mcribb. It kind of works like

759
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 1: they only hit it in the valleys, like in terms

760
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: of like when they're hitting like when it's at a low.

761
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: They're like, all right, baby, buy up the pork. The

762
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: mcribb is back. Yes, is beef do beef prices? Is

763
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: that just like a horizontal line? Is that? I think?

764
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: I think it must be more steady. And also it's

765
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: probably more steady because McDonald's exists, right, And yeah, and

766
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: they're the biggest, like one of the biggest, if not

767
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: the largest, like purchasers of beef. When they put apples

768
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: in one of their salads, they became the biggest purchaser

769
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: of apples in the United States. So they're yeah, they're

770
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: they they like it's hard to say, Okay, are they

771
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 1: reacting to trends or are they creating them? Oh? Yeah,

772
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: maybe those dips and valleys are in our results of

773
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: the mcribb going in and out. Yeah, like insider information

774
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: that they're going to it's a chicken nugget or egg

775
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: McMuffin situation, that's right, what's in first, the chicken nugget

776
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 1: or the eggmuff Nobody knows. I don't know, so that

777
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense, but it's yeah, like

778
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: we said, it's the same strategy that musical acts do

779
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: and that infuriate people. Like the so Ozzy Osborne had

780
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: been no More Tours tour when he was, you know,

781
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: initially retiring, I think in and then in twenty nineteen,

782
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: no more tours to Share, LCD sound System, the Who,

783
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: like every genre, like they've all said goodbye. I think

784
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: Trent Reser did it. Yeah, sh goodbye tour. I they

785
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: he duped me for that. I was like I'm there trying, Yeah,

786
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: let's go, and then I'm like, he's still going. I

787
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: think the ballsist was Shared did a farewell, multiple farewell tours,

788
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: and then at one point she did a farewell tour

789
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: and moved directly onto a Vegas residency for three years. Yeah.

790
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: I think the reason it works is that, uh. I mean, like,

791
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 1: so when you saw when you were duped by Trent,

792
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: you weren't bummed that you went to the show, you know,

793
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: not so he's back. Oh that's only good news. You're

794
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: never like I went to one farewell show and I

795
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: don't want to go to another one. Yeah, not at all.

796
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: I was like I was there like two years later

797
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: when he did another tour, and I was like, yeah, yeah, great,

798
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: great Greade. I'm here, I'm here, I'm here next to

799
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: a guy who was juggling l ed fucking balls next

800
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: to me while I was tripping, and it was the

801
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: most annoying thing. There's a guy I remember. I think

802
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: it was outside, and I forget which tour. I like,

803
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: big festival they're at. I was next to some guy

804
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 1: who was juggling the whole fucking show like light up balls,

805
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is a funk. This is too

806
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: much for me anyway. But all that to say, I'm

807
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: not mad at when a fair World tour goes on.

808
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, if it's good, if they do a good job,

809
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: that's that's fantastic. Or it's also the Disney Vault, they'll

810
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, it's which is so weird. Yeah, we

811
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 1: only can open it for Yeah. It almost like I

812
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: had an idea of the Disney Vault that was like

813
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: a like magical crypt that they could only open for

814
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: like a couple of weeks at a time. It's like,

815
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: wait a second, this company has total control to do

816
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: whatever the funk they won't, whenever the folk they won't. Yeah,

817
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: it's just a sales moratorium, that's what we call it,

818
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: more than anything, rather than like did did Walt's Ghost?

819
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: Let us look at the tapes again. But I will

820
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: say just with LCD sounds sound system, I'll never James

821
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: Murphy played himself. I thought they were done years ago,

822
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 1: and they're ever fucking everywhere again, like especially this last summer.

823
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: I was like, I thought y'all were fucking done. Yeah,

824
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: look I get it. They have fans. Yeah. Barbara Streisand's

825
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 1: fans actually tried to sue her after paying for hefty

826
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: ticket prices for her first farewell tour, and so she did.

827
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 1: She went on a farewell tour in two thousand grossed

828
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: fixed fifty six million dollars. And then when she announced

829
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,280
Speaker 1: that she would be saying goodbye again in two thousand six,

830
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: so that's they like they need to be keeping track of, Like, okay,

831
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 1: that's too soon, Barber strais And people will like literally

832
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: sue you and it will become a news story. But

833
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: the mcribs like goes away every couple of years, so

834
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: we don't like for fickle lawsuits and stuff. The shorthand

835
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: has been speaking of McDonald's, you know, the suing for

836
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: coffee being too hot, but it maybe should be suing

837
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: for not doing a proper farewell tour. Streisand you know, yeah, well,

838
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: and the coffee too hot thing is a great example

839
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: of like corporations having control over like how our media works.

840
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: Because the person who got burned by their coffee like

841
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: McDonald's had been warned by consumer groups like your coffee

842
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: is way too hot, like if somebody spilled it on themselves,

843
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: they will have like third degree burns, Like you need

844
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Speaker 1: to chill out with how fucking hot your coffee is.

845
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Speaker 1: They ignored those warnings. The person had like permanent skin

846
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Speaker 1: damage from the hot coffee. Uh, And we're all like, oh, yeah,

847
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Speaker 1: there's there's the asshole. Like I only learned that like

848
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Speaker 1: years after I had been telling you know, yeah that

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Speaker 1: was that was myth busted uh recently. Yeah. The best

850
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Speaker 1: way to do a farewell tour this is the Bob

851
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: Dylan method is always seem like you are on the

852
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Speaker 1: verge of death and just stay touring. I went and

853
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: saw Bob Dylan in like two thousand six, and I

854
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: was like, this motherfucker is might not make it through

855
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: this show. He's and then he's he's still touring. He's

856
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: been on permanent tour for the last thirty years. He's like, actually,

857
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: it's just laughing counting money, he's like feels dumb s

858
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Speaker 1: O B S dying Yeah, and then comes out like

859
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Speaker 1: he's like I can clean a jerk three hundred pounds

860
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: man saying fucking with me. But is there any like,

861
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: is there anything to being able to sue for for

862
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: an artist saying this is the fair wet like to

863
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Speaker 1: come out to say this is the last time. But

864
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Speaker 1: I guess it's hard to say because you can't be like,

865
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Speaker 1: you know, you have the right as a human being

866
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Speaker 1: to be like, you know, actually I wanted to come

867
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Speaker 1: out of retirement, you know what I mean, Like that's

868
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Speaker 1: not obviously illegal, but they're clearly obviously like in the

869
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Speaker 1: in terms of like someone's motivation to buy a ticket

870
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: at a higher price, hearing that this could be the

871
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: last time you'll see them clearly would add extra motivation. Yeah,

872
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 1: And my theory is that it's not necessarily the artist's fault.

873
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 1: It's I think the artist is like, yeah, I'm pretty good,

874
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: like I'm ready to retire. And I think this goes

875
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: for boxers who come out of retirement, but they are not.

876
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: Once you're famous and like, you know, you have an

877
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: entire companies where the people making money off of everything

878
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 1: you do. You are no longer really in control of

879
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: your own life. And so you know, the people that

880
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: you surround yourself with, the people you get business advice from,

881
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: are all going to be pushing you to come out

882
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: of retirement, even if it's bad for you, even if

883
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: it's like shitty to your customers, like there is. You

884
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 1: are like in an information bubble of people who are

885
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: like the people are calling for it, barbed like, we

886
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: gotta do it. I guess nobody calls Barbara Streisan Barb

887
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: Barb Babs jack Well and or Ozzy Osborne. You know,

888
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: he did his No More Tours and then but he

889
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: had no idea he was gonna do like this huge

890
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 1: hit reality show and his whole family was gonna become

891
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: crazy famous. And also like he might not have had

892
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,919
Speaker 1: any idea he was doing the No More Tours Part

893
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 1: two until like they were like, yeah, I just walked

894
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,919
Speaker 1: through that door, walked out. It was the stadium full

895
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: of people. Yeah, that that feels like one that's especially predatory.

896
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's funny. Like the last time

897
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, they're not retired was jay Z,

898
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: because I was such a jay Z fan and then

899
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Speaker 1: one of the Blueprints, and when the Black album came on,

900
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: like damn, that's a good way to go out. Yeah,

901
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: then the subsequent albums, I'm like, row, what the fund

902
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: is this ship? Because like none of his like latter

903
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 1: day albums, like ranking his top five, I'm like at all,

904
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Speaker 1: But I get for him. He was like, man, they're

905
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: you know what, they're still buying this ship. We can

906
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: put Magna Carta. Holy Grail is like a download on

907
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: Samsung phones. Fuck it, baby, they're back. I think there's

908
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 1: a reason people do the I'm gonna go out on

909
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: top like they Usually when people do that, they have

910
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: some instinct that like they're not staying on top for

911
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 1: that much longer, and then when they do come out

912
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: of retirement, it's it usually gives a pretty good I

913
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: don't know, like I'm thinking of jay Z, thinking of

914
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: like Seinfeld is another example where people are like they're

915
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: going out on top and like their last season wasn't

916
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: their best season, but it was still like good enough.

917
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: But then when you know Seinfeld does stand up after that,

918
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: it's just he's not there anymore. Man, It's no good.

919
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 1: But he is a fashion icon, so we can oh, yeah,

920
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: look up to him for that. Yeah, well, Matthew, truly

921
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: a pleasure having you on the dailies, Like, guys, where

922
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff,

923
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: Matthew Patrick Davis on Instagram or on YouTube. I have

924
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: music videos of songs that I've written, and on Instagram

925
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: I'll start I'll start posting spoilery things about Barbarian probably

926
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 1: after Halloween. So if you want to see the process

927
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: of how the prosthetics were done or that kind of thing,

928
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: that'll be a common stay tuned nice And is there

929
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: a tweet or some of the work of social media

930
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying, Well, so, yeah, I think maybe this

931
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: isn't like a a tweet or a current meme or anything,

932
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 1: but a YouTube rabbit hole that is a comfort food

933
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: for me. Is old Jiminy Glick interviews. Do you know

934
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: who Jimmy Glick? Yeah, Martin Short. Yeah, it's a character

935
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: Martin Short did like in the nineties, And there's like

936
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: hours of VHS quality videos on YouTube where he's you know,

937
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: interviewing Spielberg say and you know, going like, so you

938
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: want an oscar? How come? Yeah? What are you going

939
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: to make the big one? You know, it's something that

940
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: really clicks with the audience. You know, he's a precursor

941
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 1: to between Two Ferns or like the Ali g Show

942
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 1: or or Sasha Baron Cohen stuff. So yeah, I enjoyed

943
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: those great, great recommendation. Miles, Where can people find you?

944
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: What's the tweet you've been enjoying? Well, I was gonna say, Matthew,

945
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: have you seen the video that was comparing Tucker Carlson

946
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: with Jimmy Glick. Oh my gosh, no, you know what

947
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: about and like they're just his his delivery, just side

948
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: by side with Jimmy Glick. It for someone who appreciates

949
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: Jimmy Glick, you'll probably find it really fine. Like if

950
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: you just search Twitter Tucker Carlson, Jimmy click yes me

951
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,919
Speaker 1: find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.

952
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 1: Also check us out on Miles and Jack Got Matt Boosts.

953
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: That's our basketball podcast that we do with the NBA.

954
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 1: Ever heard of it? And also me and Sophia Alexandra

955
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 1: out on the other podcast four twenty Day Fiance when

956
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: we talk about ninety day Fiance. Let's see, let's see

957
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: some tweets that I like. Okay, this is from This

958
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: is from last week. It's from at at James Milstein,

959
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: John Milstein. It's he's talking about like he's making fun

960
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: of like people on conservative dating apps. Is this TikTok

961
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: that he did and about, Like, yeah, dude, it's obviously

962
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: like everybody's using these apps. I'll play a little bit

963
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: of it where he's playing a guy who's talking about, like,

964
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: you totally meet really cool women on these conservative dating apps.

965
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: My girlfriend I met on the conservative dating app The

966
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: Right Stuff. Actually she just left a second ago, but

967
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: she'll be back really soon. Being my girlfriend connected because

968
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: we both believe in free speech, guns being allowed to

969
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: go off anywhere, and that a woman should be her

970
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: man's cheerleader, even if she's more accomplished than him. She's

971
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: sitting just off camera in this and she's laughing laughing anyway.

972
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: It's such a fantastic construction of Oh, yeah, it's fancy,

973
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: it's it's great over here. So yeah, thanks are Yeah.

974
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore. Oh,

975
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: Brian uh tweet I've been enjoying Gridette walks home alone

976
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: at night tweeted us we would like an edit button Ellen,

977
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: And then it's a meme from some cake boss reality show.

978
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: Maybe best I could do is mask off racism. Oh,

979
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: and then there's just like one of those four four

980
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: panel photograph things of a cat doing a thing I've

981
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: seen cats do so frequently, where they are sleeping, wake

982
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: up with a start like startled, and then go right

983
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: back to sleep and says, oh, no, I overslept, Oh

984
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Speaker 1: I forgot I'm a cat, which is probably what's going

985
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Speaker 1: on in their mind. Very Will Ferrell. Oh that's right looking,

986
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: cal fucking dog that. Speaking of Will Ferrell, wouldn't Miles

987
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: You asked Matthew what that was behind him, and he

988
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: was like, I think it's a fender. I didn't know

989
00:58:56,200 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: if you were quoting the Satan with Garth Brooks like

990
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: it is a hell bending spindle of the phones and

991
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: send you of sitters. It's it's a fender. I think

992
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: it's a fender. Anyways. You can find us on Twitter

993
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: at daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily ze Geist on Instagram.

994
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: We have Facebook fan page and a website. Daily is

995
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: like guys dot com, where we post our episodes and

996
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: our foot notes. We link off to the information that

997
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: we talked about in today's episode, as well as a

998
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song

999
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: do we think people might be? Uh, you know, it's

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00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: it's it's time for some you know. I guess it's

1001
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: something spoolky, But I don't want to play anything that's

1002
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: gonna freak people the funk out. But I just wanted

1003
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: to play a track that I really enjoyed when I

1004
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: was just getting into college. It's Prefeus seventy three with

1005
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: the track Pentagram, and I figured, well, the name Pentagram

1006
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: of books. Some were dark shit if you're you know,

1007
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: into satanic panic and all that. But it's a really

1008
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: fantastic track. Like you know, he's like the one of

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Speaker 1: the o g s of like the bet scene, and

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00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: this is like a really dope track. I would like

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01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: just sort of chopped up acoustic guitar with this vocal sample.

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01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: So check out Pentagram by Produce seven Degree. All right,

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01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,479
Speaker 1: well we'll link after that in the footnotes. The Daily

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Speaker 1: Zyche is a production by Heart Radio for More podcasts

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Speaker 1: for my Heart Radio, as the Heart Radio app, Apple

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Speaker 1: podcast or wherever you listen your favorite shows. That is

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Speaker 1: gonna do it for us this morning, back this afternoon

1018
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Speaker 1: to tell you what is trending and we will talk

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Speaker 1: to you all then Bye bye bye