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Speaker 1: Welcome to everybody to do a Thursday night edition of

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access. And I know I'm usually not the

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Speaker 1: voice you here. I'm John Harris Football, a uson side

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Speaker 1: on a reporter. Mark is out of town. I've said this,

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Speaker 1: John mcleanny, he's out of the country because he's out

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Speaker 1: with that? He's out of the country. I think you're

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Speaker 1: definitely on point with that. John. It's a pleasure to

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Speaker 1: be on with him. Sorry, Mark's gone, but I always

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Speaker 1: like coming on with you too. Well. I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: coming on, John, Thank you very much. First of all,

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Speaker 1: preseason schedule is out at green Bay home Detroit at

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Speaker 1: say Saint Louis because I keep saying that prese schedule.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of that? Planet all NFC schedule?

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Speaker 1: Two NFC North teams practicing as a Greenbay Packers first

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Speaker 1: gut reaction all that, John, What do you like? I

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Speaker 1: love going to Green Bay, love going to the cathedral

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Speaker 1: and being able to spend a few days there when

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Speaker 1: it's not snowing. Or freezing. That's the first thing I'm noticed.

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Speaker 1: I think it's tremendous. And then the Rams game doesn't

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Speaker 1: main squad. He seeing all the backups, but the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: You know, usually the Cowboys of the last game and

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Speaker 1: you see all the backups, but in this one. It's

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Speaker 1: the key game, the third one and Detroit with Matt

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Speaker 1: Patricia coming in here, wouldn't surprise me if they don't

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Speaker 1: end up having some joint practices them because Patricia likes

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Speaker 1: to do it, and he was here, he was in

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Speaker 1: there in practice before their games. And you know how

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Speaker 1: much Bill O'Brien loves joint practices. Yeah he does. And

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Speaker 1: I would imagine the Patriots tree that now extends to

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Speaker 1: Patrician Detroit. It feels like those practices are very, very important.

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Speaker 1: I've thought John, after watching those practices for a number

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Speaker 1: of years, that that would be a concession at some

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Speaker 1: point that maybe they give up one preseason game and

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Speaker 1: they do more practices. It just feels like there's more

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Speaker 1: onus put on those than there are the preseason games.

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Speaker 1: You think they're gonna give up a game in which

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Speaker 1: they fans pay seventy sell tickets for seventy one thousand

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Speaker 1: and No, the owners are never giving up those preseason

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Speaker 1: games unless they end up taking two more regular season games.

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Speaker 1: Coaches say that if they ever did go the eighteen

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Speaker 1: game schedule, which would be ridiculous. If they're really and

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Speaker 1: have more mini camps. You would have to have time

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Speaker 1: in the off season and training camp to make up

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Speaker 1: for the two preseason games that only coaches could love.

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Speaker 1: And I I like joint practices. I love watching JJ

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Speaker 1: Merciless and those guys like watching the corners. And my

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Speaker 1: and I thought that was fun. Plus it was cool,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think they're going to be doing any

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Speaker 1: But you're right that day, if you remember this, John,

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Speaker 1: that was a Saturday and ESPN was out there and

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Speaker 1: they captured everything. Not to mention hard knocks, cameras were

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Speaker 1: And I remember being over in the far corner of

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Speaker 1: Mike Sherman told me after he was fired up there

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Speaker 1: He said, they want to know what they had cheats

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Speaker 1: for breakfast. I said, why didn't you just tell him?

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Speaker 1: I threw a brockos while they're duck and lost. Returning

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Speaker 1: Now we were at Lambo in twenty sixteen, but I'm

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Speaker 1: don't I don't know exactly how I'm gonna feel about that.

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Speaker 1: Who knew that Ted Thompson would end up being a

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Speaker 1: of Fame on May fourth? What do you make of

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Speaker 1: all this as you talked about Ted Thompson everything, What

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Speaker 1: do you make about all this Aaron Rodgers, Mike McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: of that that's gone on with Tyler Dunn. The article

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Speaker 1: you wrote for Bleacher Report from two angles? Number one,

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Speaker 1: how do you look at it from a packer standpoint?

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Speaker 1: And number two, I've seen some people that have gone

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Speaker 1: that's gotta be a tricky spot to be in. But

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna think about that whole situation? Well,

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Speaker 1: I've never used anonymous quotes for to rip people. I've

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Speaker 1: told I used to have. Other players would come up

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Speaker 1: I say, you're gonna let me use your name? Well,

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Speaker 1: of course not. I said, well, I'm not gonna do

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Speaker 1: He didn't rip my anonymous sword. And I've never seen

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Speaker 1: Tyler Dunn is a great reporter. He used to cover

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo News and then Bleacher Report. That's the second

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Speaker 1: blame for that. Obviously, Rogers hates him, that's why he

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Speaker 1: Mike's got a street named after him. Mike Holmgren won

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Speaker 1: he's still living there. As Rogers pointed out, he told

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Speaker 1: And the good thing the guy that's going to benefit

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Speaker 1: who's gonna try to run rough shot over him, Rogers

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Speaker 1: those anonymous people to try to prove them wrong. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's watching it from afar and having

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Speaker 1: it just never felt like that was something that would

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Speaker 1: I mean where you go. I mean this is it's

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Speaker 1: places you just don't think it's supposed to happen, but

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Speaker 1: it has this offseason, and as you know, Packer fans

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Speaker 1: don't give a rat you know what they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: behind there and when the season starts. And you said

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Speaker 1: and a tackle or two tackles in a corner. But

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Speaker 1: then it's at fourth one and I've thought, Okay, maybe

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Speaker 1: they go at corner a different way. Maybe they find

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Speaker 1: a guy that can be kind of your nickel in

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Speaker 1: cauld play corner. Maybe he's not a protypical corner, but

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Speaker 1: maybe he could play the nickel because how much time

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Speaker 1: how much time are they playing nickel? I mean, how

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Speaker 1: many times do we see Kreem Jackson out there playing

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Speaker 1: the inside slot. So maybe that's what they find with

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Speaker 1: that fourth pick, who then can maybe play some safety

437
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Speaker 1: replaced Dre Howe. Do you think it becomes a priority

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Speaker 1: on draft day that they go after a safety early

439
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Speaker 1: with one of those four picks or do you think

440
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Speaker 1: that it's behind in the priority. I think after the

441
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Speaker 1: draft they're gonna sign a couple more veteran free agents.

442
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Speaker 1: There's gonna be another run on them. There's a lot

443
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Speaker 1: of them out there. There's safeties out there right now.

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Speaker 1: They had to play Brion body Calhoun, I think would

445
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Speaker 1: be the third safety. He was the dimes safety in

446
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Speaker 1: Cleveland at the end of the season. He was a

447
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 1: slot corner before that. He's nothing special, but he's versatile.

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Speaker 1: I think that they if can you imagine in the

449
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Speaker 1: and this is a deep draft for safeties in corners

450
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Speaker 1: and and they've got to have a third safety. Can

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Speaker 1: you imagine in the third round if Brian Gaine could

452
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Speaker 1: get his lucky in a third round this year, last

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Speaker 1: year when it comes to a safety, Justin Reid playing

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Speaker 1: like a first rounder. So it wouldn't surprise me if

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Speaker 1: I had to go away from corners and tackles, if

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Speaker 1: the third round pick was not a safety, because you're

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Speaker 1: getting very good value there. Let me ask you, okay,

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Speaker 1: not a tackle, not a corner, and not a safety

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Speaker 1: in among those first four picks. What would be a

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Speaker 1: surprise position for you of need not not something like quarterbacker,

461
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Speaker 1: tight end. I don't know if i'd say surprise, but

462
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Speaker 1: I've said all along. I think some sort of offensive weapon,

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Speaker 1: mainly of running back. I mean any of the third

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Speaker 1: running back, and I think there are some. I think

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Speaker 1: there are some running backs. I think the value for

466
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Speaker 1: running backs is really from the second round to a

467
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Speaker 1: fifth round, and I think that's where you can you

468
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Speaker 1: can get a really good back. You can get a

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Speaker 1: guy like Trevion Williams with picked number eighty six, you know,

470
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Speaker 1: third round, who wouldn't right away be your third three

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Speaker 1: down back. He could be your third down back, but

472
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Speaker 1: he's really good and pass protection. That's But there are

473
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Speaker 1: a ton of running backs I think that you could

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Speaker 1: pick from that I think could come in and help

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Speaker 1: this team right away. And then you gotta hope that

476
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Speaker 1: Lamar Miller Deante Forman are healthy. And then the third

477
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Speaker 1: running back comes in. He helps you on special teams,

478
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Speaker 1: but he gives you something a little bit different than

479
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Speaker 1: maybe what the other two do. And I think you've

480
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Speaker 1: got a lot of opportunities there. So I don't know

481
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Speaker 1: if I would be surprised by that, but I think

482
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Speaker 1: that would be one way I would go. How about

483
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Speaker 1: you I wrote a thing for Texas Sports Nation on

484
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Speaker 1: Tuesday about Bill O'Brien saying he'd like to throw the

485
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Speaker 1: ball to the running backs. Yeah, I saw that the

486
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: problem is when Lamar Miller has to stay in and

487
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Speaker 1: help pass protect, he can't get out on the rounds.

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Speaker 1: He got more passes his last two years and Miami

489
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Speaker 1: as in his first three years here and last in

490
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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, he had three touchdown catches. He can catch,

491
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Speaker 1: but he can block, and Foreman is a better receiver

492
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Speaker 1: than I thought he'd be, and he's a willing blocker.

493
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Speaker 1: But they have to have a third back. I think

494
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Speaker 1: that that third back, ideally would be a good receiver

495
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Speaker 1: who you could shift out into the slot. Maybe you

496
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Speaker 1: line him up wide and he forces the defense to

497
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Speaker 1: worry about him because they didn't have to worry about

498
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Speaker 1: Alfred Blue as a receiver. They got everything they could

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Speaker 1: get out of Alfred, and everybody wishes him the best

500
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 1: of luck with the Jaguars. But they got to have

501
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Speaker 1: somebody who can run and catch and run after the catch,

502
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Speaker 1: and I think that would be more important than a

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Speaker 1: fourth receiver, because in an ideal world, will Fuller Kiki

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Speaker 1: Qut stay healthy and with DeAndre Hopkins, they could have

505
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Speaker 1: one of the most prolific passing games in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: But it's hard to I just don't see them using

507
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Speaker 1: that position over a back. They don't have a third back.

508
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: They got three receivers. Vincent Smith maybe is the fourth receiver,

509
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Speaker 1: and another thing in free agency. If they don't get it,

510
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Speaker 1: I could see them reaching out and signing a veteran.

511
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: They still have just a whip from last year along

512
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Speaker 1: with Vincent Smith, so they have some possibilities, but really

513
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Speaker 1: on the roster, I don't think they have the kind

514
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Speaker 1: of third running back they want that and an inside

515
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Speaker 1: pass rusher, which is everybody wants an inside pass rusher.

516
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Speaker 1: They're not, but there's been a lot of good ones

517
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Speaker 1: go later, so I could see. I'm gonna say it

518
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Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me if they didn't take an inside pass

519
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Speaker 1: rusher because there's a lot of them. Not a sure thing,

520
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Speaker 1: but good value on them as well. And I think

521
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Speaker 1: that Brian Gaine's gonna try hard to get his fourth

522
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Speaker 1: round pick back. Yeah. I said the same thing yesterday.

523
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Speaker 1: I think exactly that same thing. I think he's gonna

524
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Speaker 1: do whatever you can to get that back to have

525
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Speaker 1: more at Batch. John, what you got coming up in

526
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Speaker 1: a chronicle. We've got a mock draft ten on take

527
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Speaker 1: some Sports Nation Aaron Wilson nap started Texans series going

528
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Speaker 1: over every position, and we start our NFL draft series

529
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Speaker 1: and stories next week and they all will have twelve

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Speaker 1: mock drafts. I got on too Texans that I did Sunday,

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Speaker 1: got another one coming up to the Sunday John, Thank

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Speaker 1: you very much. I really enjoyed it as alway the

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Speaker 1: general John McClean follow him on Twitter at McClean Underscore

534
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Speaker 1: on Underscore NFL. If you're listening to the show, you

535
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Speaker 1: probably follow John. But that's where you can get all

536
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Speaker 1: of John's great work. Check it out at Texas Sports

537
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Speaker 1: Nation Chronicle and obviously here each and every Thursday. Now,

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Speaker 1: as I said earlier, coming up next, good buddy of mine,

539
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Speaker 1: Sal Capaccio, Buffalo Bill's sideline reporter. We're talking a little

540
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, talk a little Rob Gronkowski, talk a little

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Speaker 1: bit more about the AFC in total. How does salth

542
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Speaker 1: feel about the hottest thing since Slice spread to Cleveland Browns.

543
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Speaker 1: Here's a hint. He feels a little bit like I do.

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Speaker 1: Talk to Sal next right here at Texans Axas. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to a Thursday edition of Texans All Access from

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Speaker 1: the Honday Texans Radio stud I'm your host, John Harris,

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Speaker 1: no Mark Vannimer tonight. He is still out of the

548
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Speaker 1: country and out of the country. I mean he's in Denver,

549
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: so he's out of the country of Texas, but nice

550
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Speaker 1: enough to join me. Is a guy who's become a

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Speaker 1: good friend of mine. He is a siline reporter for

552
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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills and he is absolutely fantastic. We've shared

553
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Speaker 1: a lot of time to combine and time last year

554
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: when the Buffalo Bills were here. Really respect his work.

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Speaker 1: It's my man, Salcabacco salth How you doing, my friend.

556
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Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good. Just waiting for the weather to

557
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Speaker 1: warm up a little bit more so. I finally playing

558
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Speaker 1: golf up in Buffalo, Do SA. I don't even want

559
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Speaker 1: to tell you what it was yesterday here in Houston.

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Speaker 1: I'm afraid it's got to be in the mid eighties, right, Yeah, Well,

561
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Speaker 1: my my car registered ninety four at one point, and yeah,

562
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Speaker 1: so's it's pretty solt It's it's turned it was cold

563
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: here for a long time, and people are like we

564
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Speaker 1: need we need regular Houston weather, and yeah, Houston weather's

565
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: about the mother Nature is about to turn up on us.

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Speaker 1: There's no question about that. Yeah, you know how that goes.

567
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,479
Speaker 1: You lived in Florida for a while, so you know

568
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Speaker 1: how it is to kind of and you know, be

569
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Speaker 1: very careful what you ask for. So I want, I

570
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Speaker 1: want to talk about your squad. I was going through

571
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: yesterday and doing uh my mock draft, my first one

572
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: of the year. I just decided I'm gonna only do one,

573
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: and I got the number nine. I started looking at

574
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: Buffalo and I saw both Sean McDermott Brandon being over

575
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: at at Olivers prode and at University Houston, and I

576
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: texted you about that and started looking at the roster

577
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Speaker 1: and the changes they have made. What's your overall gut

578
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: feeling about what the Bills have to do in this

579
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Speaker 1: draft to take the next step. Well, if they still

580
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: have to add a little bit more to the offense,

581
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Speaker 1: they've done a really nice job of trying to do that. Here.

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Speaker 1: The free agency, incredibly, John, the Bills have signed seventeen

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Speaker 1: free agents from other teams. That's incredible, It's unreal. It's

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Speaker 1: I've looked at the roster. The whole offensive line is

585
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Speaker 1: brand new from Quinn Spain and it's more Spencer Long

586
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,479
Speaker 1: Tyrant tie in second, I mean, John Fluciano, Adrian One.

587
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's unbelievable how many guys they've signed to

588
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: fix the roster. Yeah, no doubt about it. They're gonna

589
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: have probably four new starting offensive lineman. The only one

590
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: they'll have back is beyond Dockets And there is even

591
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: some question if they go out and draft and offensive

592
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: tackle in the first round. But I think Docus is safe.

593
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: But they've done that. They'ven count you know. They've ben

594
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: went out and got Duke Williams, the wide receiver from

595
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: the CFL who was an Auburn player, to add to

596
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: the hit roster as well to make eighteen. Then you

597
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Speaker 1: add the receivers at John Brown, Cole Beasley. They've signed

598
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Speaker 1: those guys. So they've done a great job of going

599
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Speaker 1: out and getting help for Josh Allen. They could still

600
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: do that, but I think what they've really done here

601
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Speaker 1: is set themselves up because this is such a deep

602
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Speaker 1: draft for defensive players, especially in the front seven. I

603
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: think they concentrated their free agent resources on the offensive side.

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Speaker 1: To help Josh Allen, which was sorely needed. Where now

605
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Speaker 1: they've had some flexibility to really play around on the

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Speaker 1: defensive side in the draft, and I think that's the

607
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Speaker 1: next step. This team still needs help on the front seven.

608
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Speaker 1: They have lost Kyle Williams obviously to retirement, a really

609
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Speaker 1: nice signing bringing back to Jordan Phillips to help out

610
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Speaker 1: on the defensive line with Star Latula and Harrison Phillips

611
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: the second year player. But you have to think about

612
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Speaker 1: the edges here. Shack Lawson is going to do his

613
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: fourth year. They're gonna make a decision on the fifth

614
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: year option for twenty twenty, and he haven't really lived

615
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Speaker 1: up to the first round expectation, so I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna do that or not. Jerry Hughes is

617
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Speaker 1: thirty one and going into the final year of his contract.

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Speaker 1: Trent Murphy was signed the big dollars. Last year, he

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Speaker 1: was in and out of the lineup with health issues.

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Speaker 1: So I think they really have to upgrade and look

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Speaker 1: for a pass rusher and go edge or d line,

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Speaker 1: and a guy like that Oliver would be a good fit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I texted you and I asked you what you would

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Speaker 1: think about that, and the immediate thought was, look, Kyle

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Speaker 1: Williams retired, and I know you don't always have a

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Speaker 1: one from one swap, but you know, Kyle Williams was

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Speaker 1: such a fantastic player. I mean, obviously we saw that

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Speaker 1: in Houston the game that he had against us, and

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Speaker 1: he was phenomenal in his final year. I mean, he

630
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Speaker 1: just destroyed us. And look a lot of defensive lines

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Speaker 1: did that to our guys up front, which was unfortunate.

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Speaker 1: But with Kyle Williams out, I started looking at the

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Speaker 1: roster and I thought, Okay, Harrison Phillips is a guy,

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Speaker 1: you know from Stanford that I really liked. Starletoule was

635
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Speaker 1: kind of in and out of the lineup in the

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Speaker 1: game that we had here, and so Ed Oliver made

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Speaker 1: a lot of sense. But so I went with TJ. Hockinson,

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Speaker 1: and I just what hit me was was Rob Gronkowski.

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Speaker 1: And look, I know, nobody's gonna be Gronk, but you know,

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Speaker 1: Gronk was from Buffalo, and you guys had to watch

641
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: a you know, a guy from a native of Buffalo

642
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: play for the Patriots and do the damage that Gronk did.

643
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: And Hockinson's about as close as you could possibly get.

644
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: And I know you talked about offensively all the additions

645
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: that they've made, and they added Tyler Croft at tight end,

646
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: but Hockinson's a different dude. What do you think of

647
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: Hockinson as a potential pick to Buffalo? Is it too

648
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: early for a tight end? Is that something Josh Allen

649
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: could use? How do you feel about that position in particular.

650
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: It's funny this is my wheelhouse today because I just

651
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: wrote an article about this at w G five dot com,

652
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: our website, and it says it's number nine two high

653
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: for the Bills to take a tight end because this

654
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: is a great debate here in Buffalo because they do

655
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: need a tight end, and ever since the season ended,

656
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: we all knew they were going to be in the

657
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,719
Speaker 1: market for one, especially after they released Charles Clay. That

658
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: left only Jason Room I'm the roster who's a converted

659
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Then they went out and they signed Tyler Cross,

660
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: who's a nice players. He's kind of a mix of

661
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: a blocker and a pass catcher, red zone target. They

662
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: signed Jake Fisher, who's a converted offensive lineman. He'll be

663
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: the blocking tight end they have to get that pass catcher.

664
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: We all know how important is. And Sean McDermott said

665
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: at the combine, going back to his days in Philly

666
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: when he had Donovan McNabb, he realized the importance of

667
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: a tight end like Chad Lewis was for Donovan McNabb

668
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: at that point. So here's the thing, though, So I

669
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: did the research yesterday and I look, I love the

670
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: idea of it, John, I do. In fact, I did

671
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: a mock draft, one of these things where someone calls

672
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: me and says, hey, you're on the clock, and they're

673
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: doing it from another city. And I took Cockinson in

674
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: one of these things because I love the idea of it,

675
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: even fan. I love the idea, but in practicality and

676
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: execution of it. The fact is, most of the best

677
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: tight ends over the last ten fifteen years they're not

678
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: drafted even in the first round, let alone the top ten.

679
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: The last one to go in the top ten really

680
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: was Vernon Davis in two thousand and six. Was had

681
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: a nice career, but it's littered with guys who aren't

682
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: really the best tight ends in the league. The best

683
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: tight ends were Rob Bronkowski second round, Jason Wenton third round,

684
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey. What third round I think it was Antonio

685
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: Gates undrafted there. This is such a position where so

686
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: many guys are doing it at a younger age and

687
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: really developing into that great special athlete that I think

688
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: you can get one later. So I'm not against t J. Hockinson.

689
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: I love the idea of it. I just wonder about

690
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: the positional value these days of a tight end that high. Yeah,

691
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: it's a it's a great point when you start thinking.

692
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: I look at the rest of my mock draft, and

693
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: it's it's edge, edge players, interior disruptors, quarterbacks. I don't

694
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: even have a left tackle. I mean, I thought about

695
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: I thought about putting a left tackle for you guys,

696
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: but I like Dawkins, and I think Dawkins can move

697
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: over the right side if you got a bona fide

698
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: left tackle. But I just kind of started thinking, man,

699
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: maybe Andre Dillard from Washington State. It's a little bit high.

700
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 1: But this all kind of goes back to it. As

701
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: you were saying those those tight end names. I found

702
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: it interesting because in my mind I was like, Okay, well,

703
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: gronkhead Brady and you know Vernon not Vernon Dames, but

704
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: Gates add Philip Rivers. You know, they had Hall of

705
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: Fame quarterbacks to step in there. With Josh Allen's going

706
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: into a second year sal what are the expectations for

707
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 1: him going forward? Coming out of what was a pretty

708
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: good second half of the year for him. He really

709
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: showed some progress in playmaking. But what's got to take

710
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: place in the second year south for Josh You get

711
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: to a point where Buffalo feels like, Okay, we're in

712
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 1: this thing, We're gonna be a perennial contender in the AFC. Well, look,

713
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 1: I think of all the additions they made, you talked,

714
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: I talked about all the receiving additions, even if they

715
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: were to draft a tight end or a wide receiver early,

716
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: of all the offensive line help, the one thing that's

717
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: really gonna benefit Josh Allen more than anything is he's

718
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: the man starting next Monday when they reported to camp

719
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: for the first time. I mean the offseason workouts. Remember

720
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: last year, John, he wasn't even number two, really, he

721
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: was number three for most of OTA's Mini camp training camp.

722
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: He got a third of the reps. He got mostly

723
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: third team reps, and he snuck into the second team

724
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,959
Speaker 1: and had some first team along the way. Now don't

725
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: have to worry about that day AJ McCarron and Nathan

726
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: Peterman battling. Now it's Josh Allen, and then it's the

727
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: other two guys, Eric Anderson and Matt Barkley. So that's

728
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: the number one thing. He's gonna have to become the guy,

729
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: the leader, the consistent thrower of the football, which he

730
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: was still had some issues with that last year. We

731
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: all know coming out his big polarization was he's not

732
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: accurate enough. He's never gonna be a sixty four or

733
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: sixty five percent completion percentage. Guy. Let me tell you

734
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: something that's right. He won't be. That's what you're sacrificing

735
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen. You have to know who the kid is.

736
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: Josh Allen will never be Drew Brees. He'll never even

737
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: be Baker Mayfield as far as completion percentage. But he

738
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: makes a lot of great plays that keeps your team

739
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: in games, helps your team win games down the field.

740
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: He's gonna make those special plays that a lot of quarterbacks, frankly,

741
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: most quarterbacks just can't make. And I just think he

742
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: needs to be a little bit more consistent in the

743
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: passing game, which hopefully will come because of all of

744
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: those reps in the chemistry and what he's gonna get

745
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: being the man and the first team guy from the

746
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: start of day one. Yeah, I can speak to that

747
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: because we saw that with Deshaan even last year and

748
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: going through you know, ots and not being able to

749
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: do the teamwork. He was still out there to do

750
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: one on ones and be able to throw with no

751
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: pressure and things like that, so he could do Paskelly

752
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: and all that he was. He was clearly the man.

753
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: Where's the year before coming as a rookie, he was

754
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: sharing time with Tom Savage until it was clear that

755
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: DeShawn need to be the starter. So I think you're

756
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: dead on with that, Sal, There's no question. Sal. As

757
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: you watch the not only the AFC East, but just

758
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: the AFC change over the years or over this year.

759
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: You see what Cleveland's done, bringing in Odell Beckham Junior,

760
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: see Gronk retiring with the Patriots. You see guy like

761
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: Trey Flowers go over to the NFC, who I know

762
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: was a thorn in your side. Probably it was a

763
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: thorn in our side too when we faced him. As

764
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 1: you've seen the AFC change, and I still think there's

765
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: one big domino in Kansas City that could fall if

766
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill gets suspended. But how have you seen the

767
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: AFC in y'all's opinion and people in Buffalo's you guys

768
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: talk about it. How do you see the AFC changing

769
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: going into twenty nineteen if at all? Well, I think

770
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 1: that it's really all about the quarterback and the changing

771
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: of the guard, the older guys, the newer guys that

772
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: are coming up. Look at all the young good quarterbacks

773
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: in the AFC, and I'm gonna throw Josh Allen in

774
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: that mix show going into his second year, Sam Donald

775
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: of course, and of course you got to Seawan out

776
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: in Houston with you guys. Now, there's a lot of

777
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks that are starting to Patrick Mahomes, of course,

778
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: you can't forget about him. And then you have the

779
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: older guy, Tom Brady, Ben Roethlisberger, Philip Rivers, those guys

780
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: that are kind of on the back end of their career.

781
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: And I think it's about when is that changing of

782
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: the guard going to take place? Kind of end mass

783
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: because we're seeing it here and there and bits and

784
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: pieces and pockets, and look, I love the talent that

785
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: Cleveland brought in, there's no doubt, and everybody's put them

786
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: at nine wins and AFC North favorites. Look, you got

787
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: a head coach and Freddie Kitchens that went from position

788
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: coach to coordinator to head coach and blakening speed. He's

789
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: got a lot of egos to manage, right, I mean,

790
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to What if things goes a little

791
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: bit south the first few weeks and I don't know,

792
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: they get out of the gate two and four and

793
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: Odell is not happy about his targets. That's a lot

794
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 1: for him to manage. So I'm not going to suddenly

795
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: throw the oh my gosh, look at Cleveland. They're the

796
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: AFC favorites tag on them. But I do like what

797
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: they've done, of course, But it is about the quarterbacks.

798
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: We don't know how much longer Tom Brady has to play.

799
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: It's been twenty years we've dealt with him here in Buffalo.

800
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: It's been he has more wins of anybody all time

801
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: against another team here against the Bills. Of course, he

802
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: did lose Rob Gronkowski and they have a lot of

803
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: changes and challenges I think right now going in New England.

804
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: So really the question is which of these quarterbacks, Josh Allen,

805
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold really can kind of sneak up and be

806
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: the next guy to take his team to challenge at

807
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: least the New England Patriots. And then around the AFC,

808
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 1: it's which other quarterback it is is it's still Derek

809
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: Carr with the position of the changes they made. We

810
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: know what Patrick Mahomes can do, Deshaun Watson and what

811
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: they can do in Houston. I think that's where you're

812
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: going to really have to look at how the AFC

813
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: has changed. Sakopacci and you can hear about w gr

814
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: right there in Buffalo. You can see him and hear

815
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: him from the Buffalo Bills sidelines. Good friend of mine,

816
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: and you hear why the guy can talk ball with

817
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: the best of Salu the best man. I really appreciate

818
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: your time, brother, anytime, anytime. Brother. I've thought about having Salon.

819
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: I thought about it for a while and I thought,

820
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: I'll look, we're not in Houston, we don't cross over

821
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: Buffalo all that much, but we did play him last year.

822
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: And then I started thinking about guys that are just

823
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: good in general, no matter what they're talking about, and

824
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: that's south sal could talk about the Oh my gosh,

825
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: I forgot he's a huge Yankees fan. Oh I missed

826
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: a major opportunity to rubbed in a little bit after

827
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: this sweet by the Astros. Oh I missed it. I

828
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: can't believe either way. Sal could talk about anything and

829
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: he would be great, and he's a great listen. But

830
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: he knows the Bills inside now knows the NFL, knows

831
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: the AFC. I thought it was interesting how we both

832
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: felt about the Browns. I'm not ready to crown the Browns,

833
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: fat to complete like it's done. I think there are

834
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: some question marks. I think Sal hit on them perfectly.

835
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: So interesting spot there at number nine though, talking about

836
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: the tight ends, and I've thought about because I like

837
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: I told him, I gave them Howkinson from Iowa because

838
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: there's a significant need. That's the value of Hockinson right there.

839
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: I think it's I think he's a top ten player.

840
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think you can't get tight ends later

841
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: in the draft. But we talked about that Oliver, and

842
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: I think I think the sal would really like him.

843
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: I think the defense would really like him. I think

844
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: he's different than anybody that Buffalo's Come on, wait a second,

845
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: ed Ollar is different than anybody in the NFL right now.

846
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: To be honest, he really is. He is so different

847
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: from anybody in the NFL. I mean, here's the guy

848
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: that people have talked about potentially an inside linebacker, outside linebacker,

849
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: three technique, five technique, anywhere in the defense line. He

850
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: might be the most rare guy that's come to the

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Speaker 1: ed going earlier, and that mock will be coming out

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Speaker 1: just content week next week because I think the Harris

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Speaker 1: one hundred is coming out very very soon. I got

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Speaker 1: that done. I've submitted to that to my editors and

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Speaker 1: my people, and a mock draft. Hopefully I'll keep cranking

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Speaker 1: on those mock drafts. Man, if you do it right,

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Speaker 1: it takes a while. I got like twenty tabs open.

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Speaker 1: I'm checking stats and checking contract. It takes forever to

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Speaker 1: do a mock draft if you're gonna do it right.

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Speaker 1: And I always write something with I know some mock

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Speaker 1: drafts will put a name and then we'll move on.

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Speaker 1: I try and explain why I go with that person

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Speaker 1: and it takes forever, so hopefully we'll get there. I've

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Speaker 1: introduced one trade I'm about halfway through. It's not the Texans,

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Speaker 1: but it is for a quarterback. So that's what you

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Speaker 1: can expect on Draft Night, which is two weeks away.

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Speaker 1: That's just dawned me because I'm not usually on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: But two weeks from tonight we will find out who

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Speaker 1: the next member of the Houston Texans will be. Hopefully,

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Speaker 1: unless the Texas trade out of the first round, which

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Speaker 1: there's a possibility that could happen. If corners and tackles

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Speaker 1: hiring their board at twenty three, they could potentially trade out,

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Speaker 1: and I wouldn't have a problem with. I know people

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Speaker 1: that come to the draft party'll be like, well, we

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Speaker 1: didn't get anybody, but we'll have a little draft party

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Speaker 1: down at studio for it, and you know it'll be

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Speaker 1: fun either way. But I don't know if I can

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Speaker 1: unveil the Draft show crew. You just know that I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be on throughout. I'll be talking about these draft picks.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully the Texans will be able to add starters future

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Speaker 1: pro Bowlers, future All famers in this draft. That'll be

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Speaker 1: fun to talk about them as they embark on their

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Speaker 1: trip to the NFL. So there you go. Big thanks

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Speaker 1: to John McClain, to Sal Capaccio, silent reporter of the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. To my guys back in studio at Sports

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Speaker 1: Radio six ten. They keep me on a straight and

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Speaker 1: narrow to you guys for listing. We will be back tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Mark will be here, so Mark and I'll have the

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Speaker 1: show for you. So we'll talk about this trip to Denver.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about more draft needs as we get inside

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Speaker 1: two weeks the draft, and we will do all of

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Speaker 1: that right here in Texans All Access on Friday night.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening. We'll see tomorrow and

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Speaker 1: as always, go Texans.