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Speaker 2: So to that degree, I would I would certainly agree

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Speaker 1: We're gonna give everybody more reps. We're going to play

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Speaker 1: at least four downs on every single drive. And that's

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Speaker 1: just the way it's gonna be. It doesn't matter unless

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Speaker 1: we're backed up like inside the five or something like that.

436
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Speaker 1: We're gonna give ourselves twenty five percent more plays to

437
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Speaker 1: play with theoretically, and we're gonna see what happens. I

438
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: would probably secretly and maybe even overtly on this show

439
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: kind of be happy about it. Wow. Yeah, all right.

440
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Speaker 1: If the mathematical scales were tipped in favor of Notre

441
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: Dame intentionally, be like you know what, that's kind of cool.

442
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Speaker 2: All right, Josh writes in most disrespectful head coach when

443
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 2: it comes to on field tactics, I don't mean dirty,

444
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 2: I mean like gonna embarrass you in multiple ways. Good

445
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 2: question here, So that kind of circumstance, that kind of

446
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 2: coach that wouldn't be afraid to hang eighty on you.

447
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 2: The first one that comes to mind is Brett Beelam,

448
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 2: because I know he's done it. Yeah, is there anyone

449
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Speaker 2: else that comes to mind for you?

450
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Speaker 1: Off the top of your head? Harbaugh a little bit,

451
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Speaker 1: even though he would he puts in his backups. There's

452
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Speaker 1: an element of just squeezing the life out of somebody

453
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Speaker 1: that I can't help but admire. Chip Kelly did it

454
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Speaker 1: at Oregon for all Wick Kelly. I was gonna say,

455
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Speaker 1: chip Kelly did it. Urban Meyer has done it. Urban

456
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Speaker 1: Meyer has. I mean you look about look back at

457
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: at Jim Harbaugh against Pete Carroll. What's your doing? So

458
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: it's it's been proven in multiple places. Urban Meyer to

459
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: a lesser extent, but certainly, you know, you don't get

460
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Speaker 1: to where he is without having that that sort of

461
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: murdering mentality. I think Tom Herman has it to a

462
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Speaker 1: certain degree with the trick plays and the tempo. And

463
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think who else you know, Brett Beelum

464
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 1: is the great example. I think Bobby Petrino. I like

465
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Speaker 1: the Paul Johnson that's that's the paper clips thing that

466
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Speaker 1: he is disrespectful in the best way. Yeah right, I

467
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Speaker 1: like that when when Georgia Tech teams are humming even Navy,

468
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: that's disrespectful to what they what they do to teams

469
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Speaker 1: when they just can't quite figure out that flex boone

470
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Speaker 1: whatever it is they're running. It's great. I love a

471
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: good sort of not petty, but just driving the point

472
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Speaker 1: home option coach. That's pure college football.

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Speaker 2: Bliss all right, very quickly, Jared writes in, with the

474
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Speaker 2: addition of Thomas Tyner, Yeah, does Oregon State have the

475
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Speaker 2: best backfield in Pac twelve?

476
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Speaker 1: So? Thomas Tyner, five star, former five star recruit running

477
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: back ran for a million yards in high school from Portland,

478
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 1: went to the University of Oregon, was on the team

479
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: that appeared in the National Championship Game in twenty fourteen.

480
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: I think started in twenty thirteen. Took a medical retirement

481
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: because of nagging injuries. Has decided to come back and

482
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Speaker 1: play for Oregon State, who also has Ryan Knall, who

483
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 1: was really good down the stretch for the Beaves. I

484
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: still don't think it's the case that they have the

485
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Speaker 1: best duo backfield because of the unknown quantity of Thomas

486
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Speaker 1: Tyner and if he'll be in shape and if he'll

487
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Speaker 1: be that same killer instinct. I think what's in Seattle

488
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Speaker 1: is pretty impressive, what's in Eugene is incredibly impressive. And

489
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Speaker 1: I am optimistic about USC's backfield as well. So I

490
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Speaker 1: think those schools are ahead right now.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And finally on the football front, Yes, as we

492
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Speaker 2: fade now into some less serious topics. We got this

493
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Speaker 2: email a couple of weeks ago, about four weeks ago,

494
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Speaker 2: and the second I saw it, I knew it was

495
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Speaker 2: something we had to do. Okay, This one is from

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Speaker 2: Mike tian Dan. I've been listening to your show since

497
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,479
Speaker 2: early two thousand and nine. I tell everyone I can

498
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: about the show. I even finally bought a shirt. He says,

499
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 2: I've always loved the popa shot style football arcade games,

500
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: but whenever I look to buy one, they were always

501
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 2: over one thousand dollars. So I decided to spend two

502
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 2: thousand dollars and two hundred man hours to build my own.

503
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 2: My game is complete with field goals, punts, interceptions, sudden death, overtime,

504
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 2: and one and two player game modes. This is a

505
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: man after my own heart.

506
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: Dan, Yeah, of course.

507
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Speaker 2: Now for the reason I'm writing in, I was wondering

508
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Speaker 2: if you guys would like the honor of doing an

509
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: intro when our game starts up. Wow, fifteen to thirty

510
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: seconds of pregame audio, you have complete and total freedom

511
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 2: to say whatever you want, just know Ohio State stuff.

512
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Speaker 1: As I am a Michigan fan. So Dan, Yeah, I'm

513
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: taking this all in. So we get to be the voices,

514
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: the introductory voices.

515
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 2: We get to be the introductory voices, and I think

516
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 2: we should we should do something on the fly, because

517
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: that's what you and I do best. Okay, So I'm thinking,

518
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: since he's a Michigan fan, we need to welcome people

519
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: to Michigan Stadium m HM, and then we need to

520
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: find some way to call out former Michigan stars, and

521
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: we need to do it in the cheesiest possible way,

522
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: because this is, after all, an arcade game and those

523
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 2: are typically cheesy introsu So I'm thinking something the effect

524
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: of like, welcome back to Michigan Stadium. Oh, Manningham, do

525
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: we have a game for you here today? Oh no,

526
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,479
Speaker 2: that's where you're going with this, just something very cheesy.

527
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Speaker 1: Yeah all right. So first of all, if he can

528
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: edit this audio, then he can play around with whatever

529
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: we're about to say, space it around. So welcome. I'm

530
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: glad I got to be the first voice.

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Speaker 2: Ty I was going to say, you need to do

532
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: the serious XM voice that people know and love, maybe

533
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: the John U.

534
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: Bacon voice, because he's a No, I can't do that

535
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: to his game. He's spent too much time on this game.

536
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: So if I'm going to do the radio voice to

537
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: be like ladies, a gentleman, welcome to this arcade unit.

538
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: This is Tan, this is danon' tye, and we are

539
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: excited for you to compete.

540
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Michigan Stadium, Oh Manningham, do we have

541
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: a game for you here today? What in the name

542
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: of Tim Biakabatuca will happen? Is anyone's guess is the

543
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: next Brady Greasy or Gerbach on the field today?

544
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: It's time to find out? That was really good. Thank you.

545
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: I just made that up to fly, Yeah, scribbling things

546
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: down on a pad? Here?

547
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: Here?

548
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: How about this one? Ryan Mallett's not going to be

549
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: transferring away from this fun? Does that work? This is

550
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: the game that Braylan Edwards won't drop the ball in.

551
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do like a half NBA jam. I

552
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: don't know where I'm really going with the voice. We

553
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: could really have fun with this. We can go is

554
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: that Elvis Gerbak? Nobody knows?

555
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: All right, Mike, tell us what you can do with that.

556
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: Let us know if you want us to try again.

557
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: We need to talk about restaurant etiquette here, all right,

558
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: what do you have? You're the restaurant tour? Why don't

559
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: you tell me where you want to go here?

560
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: I'm not sure you know what restaurant tour means, but

561
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: let's start with Okay, So this question I asked around

562
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: the office and it got the most responses. Okay, So

563
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: this one is about double dipping. Okay, Oh good one.

564
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Speaker 1: So this comes to us from brother mazone. Shout out

565
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: to the wire. Double dipping with significant others? Only? If not,

566
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Speaker 1: how close do you have to be? Family? Very good friends?

567
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: Don't care. I will extend this to just in general, tie,

568
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: what is your stance on double dick at dipping? And

569
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: if it is a positive did I say double dicking?

570
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: And if it is a positive pro stance? What is

571
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: your strategy? What is yourthos when it comes to double

572
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: dipping across all food sizes and types.

573
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Speaker 2: If you're with people you don't know, you can't do

574
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: it at all. You can't do it, no, no matter

575
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: the size of food. No, no, no, no, I'm not not

576
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Speaker 2: a double dipping fan when you're with people that you

577
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Speaker 2: don't know.

578
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: Well, So if you're with if you're with let's say

579
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Speaker 1: you're with my family out in California and we order

580
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: kso dip, I wouldn't do it. I would not do it. No,

581
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: you wouldn't. What about flipping a corner.

582
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: That hey, this is this is where I was going

583
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: to get into the strategy of the double dip?

584
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: Right, But like, if you're you're not, so you're saving

585
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: your flipping for close ones. I don't want to.

586
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Speaker 2: I don't want to be remembered as the double dipper

587
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: if I'm with people that can't disavow me entirely. Right, So,

588
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: if I'm with your family, perhaps you know at some

589
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 2: gathering say a wedding, if I'm with other friends that

590
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: that I don't see as often, No, I'm never gonna

591
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 2: I'm never gonna make that. I'm never going to take

592
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: that risk and potentially be labeled as a double dipper.

593
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: Have people think that was raised by wolves. What I

594
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: would say is, if I'm with family, that's when I

595
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: think you go modified double dip. You never dip the

596
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: end of the chip back in that you bit off,

597
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: of course not. You got to flip it around to

598
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: a one eighty and then flip that back half of

599
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: the chip. In that case, I've done that multiple times,

600
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Speaker 2: and I would advise it.

601
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Speaker 1: I think it's a solid maneuver. I will echo our

602
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: pal Ryan Nanny, and his counter to this was, so,

603
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: why would you not double dip a chip in the

604
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,719
Speaker 1: first place? What is it about? What are you worried about,

605
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: you know, putting into the universe by double dipping and you.

606
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 2: Know some some germ sure related, uh, you know, some

607
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: some spittle whatever, yeah, some something something germ related.

608
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Speaker 1: On a surface as small as a tortilla chip, are

609
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Speaker 1: you not worried that as you bite into one side

610
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: of the tortilla chip that you're not going to get

611
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: things on the other side of said tortilla chip, not

612
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: even an inch further down the down the way.

613
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Speaker 2: Well, the counter argument, if you really want to make one,

614
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: is that you're holding the opposite end of the chip

615
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 2: with your bare hands. Exactly your hands are there when

616
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: you're dipping it into the salsa or exactly right whatever dip.

617
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, I understand where he's coming from, and he's

618
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: not wrong to make that argument, but the optics of

619
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 2: biting off one end of the chip and then sticking

620
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:28,479
Speaker 2: it back into the communal dip pool is not something

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Speaker 2: that I generally want to be caught doing.

622
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Ty, I live in New York. I

623
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: live in New York City. I live in a communal pool.

624
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: This is true, very true. So at a certain point

625
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: we're all just sort of in it together and let's

626
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: all dip our mazzarella sticks into this communal marinera like.

627
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: That's just how it's working. And if you're I think

628
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: you also have to judge who you're around, if you're

629
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Speaker 1: around people that you generally generally regard as being hygienic enough,

630
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: I'm okay with the flip marinera on take a bite

631
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Speaker 1: with you're Mazzarella with marinera flip and just go at

632
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: it again. Okay, I think it's okay. Where are we

633
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: going next?

634
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: Uh?

635
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: Next, let's go to Oh. We have a lot of

636
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: people asking about waiting for food to arrive. Steven wants

637
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: to know if the orders come out at different times.

638
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: Do you wait for everybody's food to get there or

639
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: do you just start digging in?

640
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 2: I think you wait unless the person or persons who

641
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 2: are waiting for their meals give you consent to just

642
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 2: go about and meet your meal.

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00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: Oh, don't wait for me, just go ahead and right.

644
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: That makes understood the waiting. That makes it okay.

645
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just one of those like social norms

646
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: that we're that we're kind of programmed to follow. I

647
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: haven't fully understood it for a long time, but I

648
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: do abide by it, right.

649
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: I think it's it's rare that somebody else orders food,

650
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: doesn't get the food, and it just never shows up.

651
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: It's generally there than a minute or two. We're there

652
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: to eat. We all understand that we've gone to this

653
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: restaurant to eat, and you put a club sandwich in

654
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: front of me, and you asked me to wait it's

655
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: it's tricky. The club sandwich, I guess, is a bad example.

656
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: You put in front of me some fajidas, like I

657
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: am going to consume these fajitas while warm. I'm not

658
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: waiting for your club salad like. That's just not acceptable.

659
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: I will always say when I don't receive my food,

660
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: of course eat, and I'll say that as soon as

661
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: the plates go down. I don't wait to see for

662
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: that minute or two to see if my food will

663
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: come before saying that. Upon plates going down, I make

664
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: it clear that I want everybody to eat, because I

665
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: believe in the golden rule tie do unto others is

666
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: other to others do unto you.

667
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 2: I also think the cheaper the meal, the less time

668
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: you're required to wait. So if you're going to like

669
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: Chick fil A with friends and you happen to order

670
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: first and find a seat, I think it's fine if

671
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: you decide to just dig into your spicy chicken sandwich.

672
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. I've got a corollary question, though,

673
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: for an actual restaurant, because from Ryan, Yes, if your

674
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: waiter forgot to put in your and then lied about

675
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 1: why it was taking so long, what's the correct level

676
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: of anger. Ooh, so this happened to me like three

677
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: weeks ago at a restaurant. I ordered pizza, and pizza

678
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: cooks pretty quickly. Sure. I was with the solid fiance

679
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: and a friend of hers. I think her friend ordered

680
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: a piece of fish and the solid fiance ordered like

681
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: roast chicken. Okay, So in back of my head, I'm

682
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: thinking there's no way my pizza's coming out in a

683
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: sort of untimely fashion. Pizza took like twenty I kept

684
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: getting apologies from the waitress. It took twenty twenty five

685
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: minutes longer, wow, And I got some excuse like, oh, well,

686
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 1: it's from a separate area of the kitchen, and sometimes

687
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: it's always not great communicating. Like I'm looking at it

688
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 1: like I've worked in a restaurant. I know exactly what happened,

689
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: like my ticket fell or the somehow the order got misplaced,

690
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: because it doesn't take that long to make pizza. When

691
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: the pizza came out, it was scalding tie. It was

692
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: right out of the oven. It wasn't sitting around at all.

693
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: So I didn't say anything at that point to the waitress.

694
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: I just kind of wanted to, like I was hungry.

695
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,919
Speaker 1: My pizza finally came. I ate it. But I saw

696
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: our friend Peter Schrager in that restaurant, okay, and he

697
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: tweeted at me that he saw me. That's how good

698
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: of friends we are, right, you guys are very close.

699
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: We only very close hit each other. Yeah. But I

700
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 1: was talking about the pizza and I posted a picture

701
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: of the pizza, and the restaurant saw the tweets, and

702
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: I had said something about like pizza was amazing, but

703
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 1: the service was not great. And the place saw it

704
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: and they were like, let me know the next time

705
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: you come in, we'll take care of you. Wow. So

706
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: that's how I dealt with it after the fact, and

707
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 1: on social media like a grown up, Okay, what would

708
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: you do if like, very clearly your order of you know,

709
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: your your stickup wuave is clearly I could never say

710
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: that word stick up wave is clearly being cooked at

711
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: the same rate as everybody else's order, but like it

712
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: just doesn't show up for ten, fifteen, seventeen minutes.

713
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: I guess to further illustrate my beta male identity on

714
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: this show, I'd probably just I probably just waited out

715
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 2: do a lot of eye rolls and inadvertently do my

716
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 2: part to make the whole table feel sorry for me.

717
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: It depends who you're with, though, right, I don't really

718
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: it depends who you're with. I also don't really have

719
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: an angry streak. You know. Maybe it's different if you've

720
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 2: got kids. Neither one of us has kids, right, And

721
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: obviously that ups the ante and makes the situation a

722
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 2: little bit more stressful. But I'm not usually an angry

723
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 2: person in general. Sarcastic, cocky, passive, aggressive, I can do that,

724
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: but I would never truly get angry if I just

725
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 2: had to wait a little bit longer.

726
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 1: But what's a little bit, I'd probably just order another drink,

727
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, See, I think at a

728
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: certain point, and it's tough because everybody in the back

729
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: of their head is thinking, are they going to spit

730
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: my meal? Which I don't. Having worked in restaurants and

731
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: knowing a lot of people who work in restaurants, I

732
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: don't think that's the case. I think that's just sort

733
00:38:55,480 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: of a fallacy. Maybe fast food, maybe that's a situation,

734
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: But in a normal restaurant, I don't see that as happening.

735
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: But let's say you and Kate are out at a

736
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: standard issue you know, American place. You each order burgers.

737
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: You know, Kate gets a turkey burger and you get

738
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: like a salmon burger. You get a cheeseburger, you get

739
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: a bacon cheeseburger. So you expect them to be you know,

740
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: cooked at the same rate. Ish, you know, maybe yours

741
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: takes a minute longer because you got baked and whatever

742
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 1: it is. If your burger is coming, Let's say waiter

743
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: comes over ten minutes after Kate's burger arrives, and it's like, hey,

744
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be one, just me another second, Sorry,

745
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: we got backed up. You might be like, man, ten

746
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: minutes is a long time, but will you probably let

747
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: it go fifteen to twenty minutes? Yeah, fifteen, once I

748
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: get to ten, I'm definitely following up with the But

749
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: at what point? Yeah, so what is your follow up?

750
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: Is your follow up something like, listen, hey, getting my ber.

751
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: You didn't forget about me, did you? But okay, so

752
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: at what point are you being assertive? At what point

753
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: are you saying, listen, it's been twenty five minutes. This

754
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: isn't this isn't okay. If Kate's finished her meal and

755
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm still waiting for mine. In that case, will you

756
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: say it's unacceptable.

757
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely unacceptable. But also, being a server in

758
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 2: a restaurant is not always the easiest work, right, all right,

759
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 2: So I'm respectful of the fact that those folks got

760
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 2: a lot going on, trying to manage a bunch of

761
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 2: different things. And I also don't want to be that

762
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 2: guy in the restaurant who's a jerk. But if she's finished,

763
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 2: then I think it's time to be a little bit

764
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: more assertive.

765
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: Are you a jerk? Though? If your food hasn't come

766
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: twenty minutes after even if she's just sort of finishing

767
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: up and she's not, No, you're not a job You're

768
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: not a jerk.

769
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 2: But again, I'm just trying to do my best to

770
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: avoid conflict wherever possible.

771
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 1: But is it conflict? That's my question. It feels like

772
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: conflict because if the waiter doesn't bring you your meal

773
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: within twenty minutes of your dining partner when she gets

774
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: her meals, that point, it's not the waiter having a

775
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: tough job. It's the waiter being bad at his job.

776
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: I agree, all right, where are we going next? We

777
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: got a bunch of other stuff here. I have a

778
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: lot of thoughts on that you do. You're very thoughtful. Okay.

779
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: Is it necessary? I like this because this is the

780
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: flip side of the coin we just talked about unacceptable waiting?

781
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: Is it necessary? This comes to us from diego to

782
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 1: apologize to a server when a member of the party

783
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: acts like an a hole, for example, snapping fingers, overly demanding.

784
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: Is it necessary to apologize on behalf of somebody who

785
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: is obviously clearly fine with their own terrible behavior. I

786
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 1: think so? How do you pull off that maneuver?

787
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: Maybe not, maybe not overtly, but yeah, if you have

788
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: the opportunity to pull the server aside and say, hey,

789
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: I'm sorry about you know, uncle Bob down there.

790
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like there's nothing that people agree on

791
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: more than the discomfort everybody feels when one person is

792
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: just so awful to somebody serving them food. Yeah, right,

793
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: that it's it's the worst thing to be around, snapping

794
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: like heyhn oh, it's awful, It's the worst. I agree,

795
00:41:55,440 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: I agree. Should you tip takeout ty? No? Okay, explain

796
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: your stance. I've looked this up on the internet. Is

797
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 1: it absolute for you? No, it's not absolute. Okay.

798
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: No, I think it's more a frame of mind, a

799
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: state of being, to be perfectly honest with you. But

800
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 2: case in point, there is a great Asian restaurant right

801
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 2: down the street that the solid wife and I have

802
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: ordered from quite frequently. Drive down there all the time,

803
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,959
Speaker 2: pick up something on a Friday night. It's a good meal.

804
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: I've had to look up multiple times on Google, multiple

805
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 2: times what the standard protocol is for doing takeout. The

806
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 2: Internet seems to suggest, and I've looked it up multiple

807
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 2: times because I didn't believe them the first like eight

808
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: that I read it. The Internet would seem to suggest

809
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 2: that it's okay to go in, to pay the cost,

810
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: to not tip, and to leave. That would not be

811
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: my normal impulse. But the Internet says it, so it

812
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: must be true. Therefore, of course I do my best

813
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: to avoid tip unless I'm feeling rather generous when I

814
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: go to any takeout place, I believe that is accepted behavior.

815
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: I think that's okay. I think that's a fine way

816
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: to live. My only caveat is so I worked in

817
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: take out, like at a barbecue restaurant. I was in

818
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: charge of takeouts, you know, getting the orders together, sending

819
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: delivery guys off with their orders to deliver. And I

820
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 1: would say with that experience, when I've been at restaurants

821
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 1: that have been like very very busy, where it's hectic,

822
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: the phone's ringing, people are you know, waiting for their orders,

823
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: and I get to the restaurant and they're still kind

824
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: and just thoughtful, that's a good first step. And if

825
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: it's something like, hey, we're swamped, it'll be like three minutes,

826
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: It'll be like five minutes. Is that cool? Like obviously

827
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: I don't have a choice in the matter, but like

828
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: you know, giving you the heads up like sure, fine,

829
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: and then they give you the food and it's something like, hey,

830
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: I tossed in a couple extra garlic rolls. Thanks for

831
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: being so patient. They're doing you a solid. Then yeah. Also,

832
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: if you have like a personal relationship, like you see,

833
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: you know, regular type of person, like you're going to

834
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: this place once or twice a week, and you know,

835
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: you joke around with the personal they're waiting, there's a

836
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: baseball game on, you crack a couple jokes together something

837
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: like that. I'll throw you a dollar or two just

838
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: because it's not making a huge difference, but it's an

839
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: acknowledgment of like, thanks for doing your job so well.

840
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: I will do that, but with any normalcy, I generally

841
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,959
Speaker 1: tend not to but ty if it's a complex order

842
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: and it's so complex that I feel better about ordering

843
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: in a strange, inconvenient way that I'm actually going to

844
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: check the order while I'm at the restaurant to make

845
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: sure they got it right. And you'll do the tip

846
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: and they got it right, like, you know what, thank

847
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: you for being so attentive you throwing a tip? All right?

848
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 2: Well, kind of on the heels of that question, Alec

849
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 2: writes in he says, what are the acceptable circumstances for

850
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: not leaving a tip?

851
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll.

852
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 2: Kind of expand this out here because we got a

853
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: couple other tipping questions, but not leaving a tip, deciding

854
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: how much tip to leave? What are the factors that

855
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: you consider?

856
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: How the server was just as a human talking to you,

857
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: you know, paying attention. If it takes forever for them

858
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: to even come over to your table, if it takes

859
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: forever for you to like, if all these things had up,

860
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: it takes forever them come over and acknowledge you. It takes

861
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: forever to come get your drink order, takes forever to

862
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: bring your drinks, takes forever to take your actual food order,

863
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: takes forever for the food to come out. You know,

864
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: no apologies, no explanation. You know, sometimes there's just like

865
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: one server for forty tables, and it's just a mess.

866
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 1: When there's no explanation, when they're dismissive, when they try

867
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 1: to upsell everybody, and just when they waste your time.

868
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: I won't say that I won't tip them outright, but

869
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 1: it's it's probably not going to be a great move

870
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: from my wallet to yours.

871
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: I've never not left a tip because I don't think

872
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: i've done that either.

873
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 1: I recognize that it's a chaotic job.

874
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 2: It's a hard job. I've never worked in a restaurant,

875
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: but everyone knows someone who has. It's not an easy job.

876
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: There's a lot going on. So I respect that the

877
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 2: floor for me is ten percent. The absolute floor for

878
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 2: me is ten percent, and that is someone who is

879
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: not attentive, screws up the order, isn't nice. All of

880
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 2: those factors could contribute to a ten percent tip generally, though,

881
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: twenty percent's the average, and if someone's really nice, we'll

882
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: we'll move it up a little bit, throw them a

883
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 2: few extra bucks if it's someone who's really just enhancing

884
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 2: the dining experience.

885
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: Ty. This comes to us from Josh, Is it ever

886
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: okay for two people on a date to sit next

887
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 1: to each other on the same side of the table?

888
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: Good question. I'm not talking about a dinner date with

889
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: another couple. This is just two people who choose to

890
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: sit next to each other, like at a table for four,

891
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: or like you know, a table that's meant for two

892
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: sitting across from each other. But then they go to

893
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: the same small side of the table and leave two

894
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: vacant seats across from them. Wow, that's from Josh. I've

895
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: everybody has seen this. Yeah, I assume have you done this?

896
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: And how do you feel about it when you see it?

897
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: You know? I have done it? Okay? And the primary

898
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: reason I've done it under the table stuff. No, okay.

899
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 2: The primary reason I've done it is because some restaurants

900
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: are very loud, and if you're in a situation where

901
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 2: you'd like to have a conversation but the restaurant's too loud,

902
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: then it behooves you to sit on the same side.

903
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 2: Never for any like romantic purposes anything like that, right,

904
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: purely for the sake of having a conversation. I feel

905
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 2: like I've been programmed from such an early age to

906
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 2: sit on the opposite side to balance out.

907
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: The table eye contact. Man. Yeah, it just it just

908
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: feels awkward to me to be on the same side

909
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: like that. What about sharing a corner, Sharing your corner

910
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: I think is a little different. Sure, it's a little different.

911
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 2: And if you're at a square table, you know, to

912
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 2: be on adjacent sides of the square I think is fine. Yeah,

913
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 2: but in the bench scenario, that to me is just

914
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: it's just different. It's beyond the norm. I know some

915
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 2: people swear, but I'm just not into that thing.

916
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: Here's where I would say it's acceptable. One under the

917
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: table stuff aforementioned. Okay, you know, who am I to judge?

918
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 1: Who am I to judge? Number two? If you are

919
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: someplace that has a view for one person but not

920
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 1: a view for somebody else. If you're on an outdoor

921
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: patio that's overlooking.

922
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 2: The cliffs in the Pacific Ocean, Yeah, why do I

923
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: have to sit with my back to this beautiful view?

924
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: I think you find a way. It doesn't have to

925
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: be both of you facing it exactly, but you angle

926
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: a little bit on the same side. I think that's

927
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: totally defensible. Three. I would say if you are in

928
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: a situation where the people watching is pretty like I

929
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: was in Paris last year with the solid fiance, and

930
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: a lot of the tables are actually like those are

931
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: how the chairs are positioned. There's small tables built for two.

932
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: But you're on a side sidewalk cafe, you're eating like cheese,

933
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: you're drinking wine, whatever it is, and you get to

934
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: look at Paris together. That's unique for me. I don't

935
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: know if it's unique for you, but that is a

936
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: unique experience for me, and I felt totally comfortable sitting

937
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: on the same side at the table and chillin' on

938
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: a Parisian street. So I think it is acceptable for

939
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: any of those reasons, but most notably under the tables. Yeah, okay,

940
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: fair enough. Let's do two more. Okay, I'm trying to

941
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: see what is your personal tip percentage scale based on

942
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: server slash. What's the least you've ever tipped? We went

943
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: over the second part, but Tyd, what is your personal

944
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: and this is very personal, it is extremely personal. What

945
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: is your tipping scale? Will you go over twenty, will

946
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: you go under fifteen? If it's not abysmal.

947
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: Like I said, I generally go twenty. Twenty is usually

948
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 2: the starting point. Ten is the floor.

949
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: I have been known to sometimes go above twenty, but

950
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: only what are the circumstances? Yeah, are the What does

951
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: exceptional means to you? Server has to have a sense

952
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: of humor?

953
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm going it comes over who again enhances

954
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,479
Speaker 2: the dining experience overly eager to serve?

955
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 1: Sure, and if they've got jokes, then I think the

956
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: jokes are worth a couple extra bucks. It's usually a

957
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: joke thing for me.

958
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 2: Or if they go above and beyond, if they throw

959
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 2: in something extra, then I'll go above twenty.

960
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: I'm really easy, tie, I generally go around bed twenty.

961
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: But if a service, I'm a big sauce guy, as

962
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: you know, right, So if I order a club sandwich

963
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: with the side of barbecue sauce. So if I art

964
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: o a burger and I want a side of like

965
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: thousand Islands to at my frizen because that's delicious, and

966
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: they bring me two sides, like, hey, you made a

967
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: point of saying you like, you know, a side of barbecue.

968
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: So I brought you a couple of them, like, oh,

969
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: I'm so easy to melt like that tie extra sauce

970
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: will do it for me every time. Jokes are fine,

971
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: personality is great, really good recommendations. If you don't know

972
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: what to order and they're like, no, get the get

973
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: the crispy duck, and it's outstanding that, that's when I

974
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: might go over.

975
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 2: I will also add one other scenario here, and this

976
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 2: works one hundred percent of the time on me. Yeah,

977
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 2: any instance in which it seems like I'm sticking it

978
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 2: to the man, like oh, hey, somebody ordered this drink

979
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 2: but they left. You wouldn't be interested in it for free?

980
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: Would you? Absolutely? Oh something with it?

981
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 2: We accidentally made this extra order of fries. Would you

982
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 2: be interested? Absolutely? Of course, any And it works even

983
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 2: if they're lying. It works on me one hundred percent

984
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 2: of the time. If I feel like I'm sticking it

985
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 2: to the.

986
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,959
Speaker 1: Man, you bring me a free dessert. Hey, this one's

987
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 1: on the house. Oh yeah, place, I'll make up for

988
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: that in the tip. Absolutely one hundred percent. All right,

989
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: let's close out with the hypothetical tie. We haven't done

990
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: one in a while, and it's sort of related. Sure

991
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 1: do we have the sound or do you want me

992
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: to make it myself. I'd like to hear you make it.

993
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: That was beautiful. Okay, that was pretty good. Okay. We

994
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: came up with this stay in the office. It's related

995
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: to food, it's related to physique tie. Would you rather

996
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: be your fully maximized physical self sounds dirtier than intended?

997
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: Would you rather be jacked to the level that you

998
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: would ideally like to be jacked? Two? So strength, you know,

999
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: six pack, eight pack, you've got, you know, big muscles,

1000
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: lean muscles, whatever, your tan. You know you look exactly

1001
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: physically like you believe you are maxed out. Okay, And

1002
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: no matter what you eat, you will not change physically.

1003
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: You want pizza every night for the rest of your life.

1004
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: You are still going to look like that tie, that

1005
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: ideal tie. But on the inside it will still do

1006
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: you a little. It'll still rather at your body. It

1007
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: will still your cholesterol, your blood pressure, sodium levels, your arteries, whatever.

1008
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: So you've got to balance the fact that you know

1009
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: you're not going to get fat and you're look like

1010
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: your ideal self with the fact that you are still

1011
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: going to do damage to the inside. Okay, or you

1012
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: are forever going to be as you are, and you

1013
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: won't have extreme fluctuations. You'll probably be you know, you

1014
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: can gain or lose to five pounds whatever something like that,

1015
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: but you're never gonna be your fully realized self. You're

1016
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: never gonna be jacked, You're never gonna be ripped, You're

1017
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: never gonna be yoked. You're gonna be as tan as

1018
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: you want. And you can't eat whatever you want without

1019
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 1: gaining weight. But you can eat whatever you want and

1020
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: it will do no damage to you on the inside.

1021
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 1: So you can eat as much pizza as you need,

1022
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: many burritos, as much queso, and your blood pressure remains

1023
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: the same. You're not gonna get all that fat. You're

1024
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 1: gain a little bit of weight, but nothing extreme. Given

1025
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: your extreme diet, everything will stay the same on the inside.

1026
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 2: See, I'm inclined to say that I'd prefer the fully

1027
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 2: physically maximized version of myself of.

1028
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: Live hot, die young.

1029
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 2: Whatever I eat now affects the inside of my body.

1030
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 2: I might not be my fully realized self, but I'm

1031
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: used to that situation where you kind of have to

1032
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 2: figure out, Okay.

1033
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: Is this good for me? Is this not good for me? Sure?

1034
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 2: So it's sort of like everyday life right now, with

1035
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 2: the exception of I don't have.

1036
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: To go to the gym nearly's often. So you'd rather

1037
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 1: be jacked than have nutritional freedom, I think so, because

1038
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: I don't have nutritional freedom. Now, well, you would have

1039
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: nutritional freedom if you look like what you look like,

1040
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: you can need whatever you want and it's fine. H

1041
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 1: I think I'm used to where I'm at. Now, let's

1042
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: take the fully maximized version of myself and let's just

1043
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: deal with it as best we can. I think I'm

1044
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: taking number two. Yeah, I think I'm taking option number

1045
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: two because there are just there's so many meals that

1046
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: I have are like, well, see, you would be a

1047
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: good person for number two, right, I'm kntent eating like

1048
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,479
Speaker 1: a bird every day, the same thing day and day out.

1049
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily need the variety and the level of

1050
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: sophistication in the palette that you seem to Salads are

1051
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: just such bummers. Tie, I'm a Sally guy. I like that.

1052
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: I know. I'm okay with it. It's rough you went

1053
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: every day. I think I'm going number two, okay, And

1054
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: that's a weird thing to say out.

1055
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 2: Arry weird thing to close out the show with. Think

1056
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 2: I'm going number two? Fair enough, there it is, I

1057
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:24,640
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Speaker 2: Are, ah Man the Grecian Aiir, the rest of your

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Speaker 2: trip for that go there and Rubinstein in parts unknown

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Speaker 2: for myself, Tie hilden Brandt here and good old us

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Speaker 2: of a catch you next week in the Solid there

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Speaker 2: once they solid peace. H