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Speaker 1: Uh, we got a lot to get to, Plex, But

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Speaker 1: let's start here with with Pooka Nakua. All right, uh uh,

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Speaker 1: he's been in rehab. That's saying he's entered rehab. But

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Speaker 1: by his by his lawyer's admission, I guess Puka has

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Speaker 1: already been going through rehab for some amount of time

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Speaker 1: Comes on the heels of him getting a getting into

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Speaker 1: There's a ledge that he biit a young lady twice

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Speaker 1: night and party night. Listen, it sounds like to me, Plex,

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Speaker 1: an anti semitic slur. You know, his lawyer said it

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Speaker 1: bigger conversation here, plex is that Pooka Nakua is getting rehab,

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Speaker 5: From what I understand, the Pookah has acknowledged, you know,

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Speaker 5: But like some of these things choreographed, you know what

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Speaker 5: And you know he came out and said that he

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Speaker 5: up with involving two women, and you know it's Heresaye

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Speaker 5: think the fact that he has, you know, voluntarily admitted

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Speaker 5: best way that he know how and that is you know, uh,

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Speaker 5: admitting himself into treatment. So from what I understand, he

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Speaker 5: From a time and standpoint, you know, Sean McVay came

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Speaker 5: I don't think that's going to be a full problem

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Speaker 5: you know, really trying to you know, get Pookah focused

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Speaker 5: from what I understand, you know, some of these things

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Speaker 5: But the fact that he has, you know, admitting himself

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Speaker 5: into seeking treatment, he has he's taken responsibility for whatever

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Speaker 3: That's the lead stretch.

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Speaker 1: That's the lead is that you are you are admitting

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Speaker 3: Man, like that's that's that's that's uh.

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Speaker 1: You know you you're risking it. You're you're risking it

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Speaker 1: all by by handling things this way. I mean we've

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Speaker 1: like you've ever had a problem. But nonetheless, sometimes things happen,

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Speaker 3: We just got done talking about Tiger.

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Speaker 3: Are you know, what is it?

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Speaker 1: What's the rule in that everybody has in their contract

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Speaker 1: conduct detrimental to you know, the team or something to

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Speaker 1: the conduct clause that that exists in everybody's contract, even

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Speaker 1: would do. If you know you're this close to solidifying

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Speaker 1: let's let's let's put it. Keep it a buck. If

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Speaker 1: you can lend a life changing contract. You need to

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Speaker 3: Be able to do just that.

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Speaker 1: Get that that life changing contract, and that seems as

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Speaker 1: though that's what's taking place right now. I hope he

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Speaker 1: which that sounds like that's what it is, He's drinking

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Speaker 1: too much. Guy's party hard all the time. Some people

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Speaker 1: People praise it like he's famous for it, Like do

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Speaker 3: Crush a beer.

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Speaker 1: He was drinking a beer during the flag football game

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Speaker 3: Some people are praised for it.

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Speaker 5: the ownership and Sean Samvel still showing confidence in him.

436
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Speaker 5: And I just believe he's going to get better. He's

437
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Speaker 5: a great player and from what I heard, you know,

438
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 5: everything that has happened to him in the past a

439
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 5: year or so speaking with TJ about this topic last season,

440
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Speaker 5: that he's not the kind of person, not that kind

441
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Speaker 5: of person.

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Speaker 3: So I just will the best.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and I agree with that, Like I said,

444
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Speaker 6: like I think that that's sort of where the Rams

445
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 6: are at. Like the way you just talked about a

446
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 6: flex Like I think that's where the RAMS are at is.

447
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Speaker 6: You know, when I when I brought this up with

448
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Speaker 6: RAMS people, I will say, you know, and I have

449
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Speaker 6: I have talked to people over there about this stuff,

450
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Speaker 6: and I would just say, they are they're they're defensive

451
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Speaker 6: of them, you know, they care about them, They're looking

452
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Speaker 6: out for him, and you know, I think that this

453
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Speaker 6: is probably a good example of them.

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Speaker 4: Like you know, at least influencing him, maybe.

455
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Speaker 6: Not convincing him, but influencing him to look out for himself,

456
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Speaker 6: you know.

457
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Speaker 3: And so.

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Speaker 4: You know, I know, like again, like.

459
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Speaker 6: They've been almost protective of him in the way that

460
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 6: they've talked about him in the aftermath of some of

461
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 6: this stuff where you know, it's obvious a lot of

462
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 6: it reflects.

463
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 4: Really poorly on him, you know. And so you know,

464
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Speaker 4: I think in.

465
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Speaker 6: This case, it's you know, like they wanted.

466
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Speaker 4: To they want to take care of him all along.

467
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Speaker 6: And and the first step to doing that is getting

468
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Speaker 6: you know, getting a person to to to take care

469
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Speaker 6: of himself. And I think that that's what Poop is.

470
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 4: Trying to do right now.

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Speaker 3: M hmm.

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Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you about Aaron Glenn and

473
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Speaker 1: his his comments.

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Speaker 3: Uh abe, it's.

475
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Speaker 1: As plexico early is what they call cap Is he

476
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 1: being honest? Is he being truthful or is he selling hope?

477
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,479
Speaker 1: How much does this play into him being on the

478
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Speaker 1: hot seat for this upcoming season?

479
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Speaker 6: Well, I mean I think he has to provide hope,

480
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 6: you know, like that's the big thing. And I think

481
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Speaker 6: a lot of cases, like with a coach, like a

482
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Speaker 6: g where he is right now, it's not so much

483
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Speaker 6: like what the first four weeks where it looked like

484
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 6: the first six weeks look like. It's it's are you

485
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 6: more than the wins and losses? And not that they

486
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 6: are important, because that's you know, why you play. Is

487
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 6: is a win, you know, but more than that, it's

488
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 6: you know, is there can you see? Can the owner

489
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 6: see a plan that's being executed? And you know, when

490
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 6: you're in a position like the Jets are where they

491
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 6: traded Quinn Williams, they traded Sauce Gardner, They got two

492
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Speaker 6: first round picks this year, They have three first round

493
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Speaker 6: picks next year. They have four of the top forty

494
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Speaker 6: four picks this year? Can the owner see? Can the

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Speaker 6: fan base see the arrow pointing up?

496
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Speaker 4: So if you do get to a point where.

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Speaker 6: I think they'll be, you know, like where they're say

498
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Speaker 6: one in five after six games, or there two and seven.

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Speaker 4: After nine games. Can you see reasons for hope?

500
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 5: You know?

501
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 6: Can you see the two first round picks that are

502
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 6: on their roster starting to play well?

503
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Speaker 4: Can you see Geno bringing the whole thing together?

504
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Speaker 8: You know?

505
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 4: And I think that's part of why Geno is.

506
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 6: So important is because you know, in this particular circumstance,

507
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 6: it's going to be up to Gino to help them

508
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 6: evaluate the roster because if a quarterback is playing at

509
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 6: a good level, it's going to give you a better

510
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 6: chance to evaluate.

511
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 4: What you have at all those other positions.

512
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Speaker 6: On offense, it's hard to evaluate, you know, it's hard

513
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 6: for you to evaluate what you have at receiver. It's

514
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 6: a quarterback can't get a job done. So Gino becomes

515
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 6: an important piece of that as well. So to me,

516
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,239
Speaker 6: you know, the whole the whole thing, Like it's just

517
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Speaker 6: it's going to be through the course of this year

518
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 6: about about not just providing hope, but having that hope

519
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 6: being visible, you know, for everyone inside and outside the building.

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00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 3: And so you know, even.

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00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 6: If the record is not very good, you know, a

522
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Speaker 6: quarter of the way.

523
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Speaker 4: Through the season. Halfway through the season, you.

524
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Speaker 6: Know there are things that you can point at and

525
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 6: say that rookie's playing well, that guy in his second year.

526
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Speaker 6: You know, I'm on Membo the level the right tackle

527
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 6: of the Jets from Missouri, you can see a tangible difference.

528
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 6: Tackle is now a strength. With the two young guys

529
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Speaker 6: they have with Membu and Olufashana, those are the sorts

530
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 6: of things you're going to be looking for from them

531
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Speaker 6: this year. And that's why I think, like you know, ag,

532
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 6: it's not just about wins and losses. It's about showing

533
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 6: that you're developing.

534
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 4: The talent and the roster so the organization.

535
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Speaker 6: Trusts you to execute with those three first round picks

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Speaker 6: next year.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we talk about developing the roster when you

538
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 5: trade away Quinn Williams, who's the first team All Pro,

539
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 5: and get trade the way you're all pro, Corna. Do

540
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 5: you think the New York Jets will retain Aaron Glenn

541
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Speaker 5: being a head coach if he goes through another you know,

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00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 5: three and fourteen or four and thirteen season, or do

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00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 5: you think he's on a hot seat? Yeah?

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00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 6: I think, well, I think that's like again plus a

545
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,239
Speaker 6: lot of as going to come down to what that

546
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 6: looks like with the young guys, right, Like, so how

547
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 6: fast the first how far past the two first round

548
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 6: picks progressing the four guys you drafts in the top

549
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 6: forty four? Does it look like there's a tangible difference?

550
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 6: And where are those guys were in training camp versus

551
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 6: where they are in the middle of November? Does Armine

552
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 6: member right, I will take a step forward?

553
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 4: Is that tangible?

554
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: You know?

555
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 6: Do you see some of the guys that get the

556
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Speaker 6: current regime inherited, like a Will McDonald who was the

557
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 6: first round pick a few years ago, do you see

558
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 6: him making making a difference and taking a step forward?

559
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 6: Those are the sorts of things that you're going to

560
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 6: be looking for.

561
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 4: Is you know, is there a reason?

562
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 6: Is there a reason for hope? You know, what are

563
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 6: you getting out of Bracehall on the franchise tag.

564
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 4: When you have a team in.

565
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Speaker 6: A roster where it is right now? And again, I

566
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 6: think there's an acknowledgment after you know, like an area

567
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 6: you know, a couple off seasons where you see what

568
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 6: happens to the core those guys, those guys inherited where

569
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 6: you had seven first round picks between twenty nineteen and

570
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Speaker 6: twenty twenty two, and only one of them is still

571
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 6: in the roster. You know, Like, I think there's there's

572
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 6: got to be some level of understanding for when, when,

573
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Speaker 6: when when. When that's gone on in the organization, it's

574
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 6: gonna be tough to win games in the here and

575
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 6: the now. You know, what you are looking for is

576
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 6: the development of the roster, and so I think that

577
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 6: that's really going to be the determining factor for AG

578
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 6: coming out of this year is what all those young

579
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 6: guys you know they're going to be relying on going forwards,

580
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 6: look like, you know, in training camp versus what they

581
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 6: look like in week four versus what they look like

582
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Speaker 6: in week ten, and then ultimately at the end of

583
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 6: the year, does it look like a team that's on

584
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 6: its way up? And if it's on its way and

585
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 6: if it looks like it's on its way up, then

586
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 6: you can trust the current coaching staff to go forward

587
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 6: and go into what I think is gonna be a

588
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 6: really really critical year in twenty twenty seven, where they

589
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 6: have three first round picks and potentially where they could

590
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 6: be drafting in a quarterback of the future.

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Speaker 1: Talking to senior NFL reporter and lead content strategists for

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Speaker 1: the MMQB Albert Breer, aybe there's rumors and then I

593
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: wonder how much of a rumor it is about Aaron

594
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: Rodgers and him potentially being linked to going to Denver.

595
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: That would be an interesting plot twist if this were true.

596
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 3: Can you shed any light on it?

597
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers going to Denver that.

598
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: Potentially That's That's what I'm here, and I mean that's

599
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: a report that that surface that the Broncos emerged as

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00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: a potential option for Aaron Rodgers.

601
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Speaker 6: I think Pittsburgh would be My personal feeling is Pittsburgh.

602
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 4: It's going to be Pittsburgh or nowhere else.

603
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: That would be my guess.

604
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 4: And I think, you know, like I.

605
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Speaker 6: Think the reason why I'd say that, see LeVar, is because,

606
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 6: like I think, over the last three or four years,

607
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 6: Aaron sort of shifted his mindset when it comes to

608
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Speaker 6: this stuff.

609
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 4: And you know, for years and years and years. I

610
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 4: need to tell you guys this, but I think he'd

611
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 4: been out so.

612
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 6: I proved to people of these more than just a

613
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 6: football player, right like, by having all the interests off

614
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 6: the field of being very open about talking about all

615
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 6: these different things. You know, there had been this kind

616
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Speaker 6: of image that that Aaron had cultivated of like somebody's

617
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 6: a little eccentric and somebody who you know, cares about

618
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 6: things outside of football. And I remember in this conversation

619
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Speaker 6: with him a couple of years ago where he said, like,

620
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 6: you know, I you know, through going going through all that,

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Speaker 6: like you know, he kind of, you know, came to

622
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Speaker 6: a realization, I really love football and I want only

623
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Speaker 6: into being a football player again.

624
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Speaker 4: And so his last year in New York.

625
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 6: Huge part of it after coming off the Achilles was

626
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 6: I want to I want to just be a piece

627
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 6: just playing football and get the most out of what

628
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 6: I have left as a football player. Didn't go well

629
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Speaker 6: that last year in New York, of course, and then

630
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 6: coming back in Pittsburgh, I think he found that, you know,

631
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Speaker 6: I think he found that that that love of football

632
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 6: again and having the ability to to to to go

633
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 6: out and enjoy the game in a way in a

634
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 6: way maybe he hadn't in a while.

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Speaker 4: And so I think that that would be.

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00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 6: What would draw him back to playing again this year.

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00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 6: And the chance to do that in you know, the

638
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 6: chance to do that I think with players that he

639
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 6: really likes in an environment that he really likes, you know,

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00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 6: I personally think of Pittsburgh or a buss for him.

641
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Speaker 3: That that was an April fool's joke.

642
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 4: I thought so, and I didn't.

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00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 6: The problem is the problem is I'm over here, and

644
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 6: I didn't want to make you sound like a and

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00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 6: like so like I'm over here. So I was like,

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Speaker 6: did I miss something last night? I thought that was

647
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 6: the way I played through it, right.

648
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Speaker 3: You did you?

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00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you handled it well because at the end

650
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Speaker 1: of the day, we have not heard anything take place

651
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers or the Steelers at this point. So

652
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: to throw April fools joke out on April second was

653
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:31,439
Speaker 1: I felt like und intendedly creative. But at the same time,

654
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Speaker 1: it was like, you know, could he be linked to

655
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Speaker 1: any other you know, any other teams or anything like that?

656
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: But I think you made it very clear it's Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 6: I think so, yeah, Like again, like I just think

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Speaker 6: he likes the locker room there and what part of

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Speaker 6: it is too, you know, And I think you know,

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Speaker 6: both of you guys can speak to this better than me.

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Speaker 6: But I do think like as you as you become

662
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Speaker 6: older in the league, you feel a little bit more

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Speaker 6: disconnected with your younger teammates, right, Like, it's a little

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Speaker 6: harder to bond with guys who are just getting out

665
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Speaker 6: of college as you get a little older in the league.

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Speaker 6: And you know, I think for Aaron, like walking into

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Speaker 6: that environment where you do have a Cam Hayward who's

668
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Speaker 6: been around forever in a T. J. Watt and a

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Speaker 6: Jalen Ramsey and guys that are, you know, closer to

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Speaker 6: being of his era, really created a comfort level for

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Speaker 6: him there. And I think that that's part of what

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Speaker 6: like helped him you kind of rediscover, you know, his

673
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Speaker 6: joy for just being a football player and not all

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Speaker 6: the other.

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Speaker 5: Stuff you got the last one plex, Yeah, I gotta

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Speaker 5: agree with you. I just think that Aaron Rodgers will

677
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Speaker 5: will reunite with Mike Mike McCarthy. But I'm just saying

678
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Speaker 5: that how long was Pittsburgh going to wait to for

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Speaker 5: Ann Rodgers to make this decision? I mean, Ota is

680
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Speaker 5: right around the corner. You can't continue to wait on

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Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers to make the decision if he wants to

682
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Speaker 5: be the quarterback for your football team. So, uh, the

683
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh Steels have to move forward regardless. But how long

684
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Speaker 5: were you going to wait on Anon Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to say forever, but I do think

686
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Speaker 4: plus they have a good.

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Speaker 6: Comfort level where they're at and the and the reason

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Speaker 6: why is because of of where they what they went

689
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Speaker 6: through last year, and you know, like last year, just

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Speaker 6: for people who don't know.

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Speaker 4: You know, he like he signed in June, but like

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Speaker 4: he had been.

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Speaker 6: In contact with them for three months. He was talking

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Speaker 6: to Mike Tomlin weekly. He was talking to Arthur Smith,

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Speaker 6: their offensive coordinator at the time, periodically, and so you know,

696
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 6: while Mike and Arthur didn't have a final answer, they

697
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 6: were you know, in constant communication with them. They had

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Speaker 6: an idea that he could wind up coming and there

699
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Speaker 6: was a really good chance of that, and they knew

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Speaker 6: what they were building for, you know.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's the same sort of thing this year.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Mike McCarthy obviously has known Aaron Rodgers for

703
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Speaker 6: longer than Mike Common and Arthur Smith did at that time.

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Speaker 4: You know, and so.

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Speaker 6: You had that relationship, that background, and the fact that

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Speaker 6: the organization went through this last year does give them

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Speaker 6: a comfort level that that this is gonna that that

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Speaker 6: that that that Aaron's going to continue to be upfront

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Speaker 6: with them, and I think they feel like he is

710
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Speaker 6: probably going to come back.

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Speaker 4: For one more year. They don't have a final answer on.

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Speaker 6: It yet, but you know, I think there's you know,

713
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Speaker 6: a good feeling there that everybody's communicated with each other.

714
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Speaker 6: There's no nothing, nothing underhanded here or anything like that,

715
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Speaker 6: Like everybody knows where everybody's at. Here's the other thing

716
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Speaker 6: is that I do think that there is at least

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Speaker 6: a potential answer behind door number two there and that

718
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Speaker 6: Kirk Cousins is still sitting out there. And is that

719
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Speaker 6: the ideal answer for for the Steelers.

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Speaker 4: No, maybe not, But you know, with an offense.

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Speaker 6: It's got so many veteran guys on it, and you know,

722
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Speaker 6: Dk Metcalf, Mike Michael Pittman now coming over from you know,

723
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Speaker 6: coming over from Indianapolis, Rico Daudell who's going into his seventh.

724
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Speaker 4: Year coming over for Carolina. You know, it's really an offensive.

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Speaker 6: Built for a veteran quarterback, you know, who can get

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Speaker 6: the most out of those guys and all of their

727
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Speaker 6: know how.

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Speaker 4: And so even if it's not Aaron Rodgers, there is

729
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Speaker 4: a guy, you know, and.

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Speaker 6: In kirk Cousins sitting out there, who'd be going into

731
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Speaker 6: his fifteenth NFL season, who'd be able to unlock some

732
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Speaker 6: of the things Aaron could, maybe not quite at the

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Speaker 6: level that Aaron could, but at the same but but

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Speaker 6: but would be able to.

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Speaker 3: To fit in with a.

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Speaker 6: With a very veteran group there in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: That's our breer everyone, Senior NFL reporter and league content

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Speaker 1: strategist for the.

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Speaker 3: M m QB uh enjoy perry, be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Is it a family VAK or you by yourself?

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Speaker 6: You know, as a family VAK.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure. I'm sure you guys will have lots of questions.

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Speaker 6: You want to know a lot of things when I

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Speaker 1: That's that that boogie, that's that boogie disco music right there, y'all.

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Speaker 1: That's that get it on the den, Timber. That's not

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Speaker 3: and make sure you do that. And without further ado,

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Speaker 3: let's bring him on. Man. Let's let's bring on the legend,

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Speaker 3: the myth, the man himself, uh Senior. Yeah, but but.

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Speaker 1: You know we know him as Tam because you know

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Speaker 1: he's from our era of time. When he snatched your

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Speaker 1: soul out of your body, when he took you with

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Speaker 1: that crossover. It's Tim Hardaway, senior NBA Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: point guard, time time NBA All Star and five times

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Speaker 1: All NBA member.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show, So welcome to the show. How

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Speaker 3: you feeling, man?

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Speaker 8: Thank you man, gat y'all I'm asking for y'all. Man,

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Speaker 8: y'all doing great things. I had a bunch of great

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Speaker 8: things about you all. And yet that music is from

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Speaker 8: my area, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, don't get too deep with that.

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Speaker 3: That boogie music was was for the boogie boogie. Mirror

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Speaker 3: the boogie boogie.

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Speaker 8: Hey. I used to get down on the boogie boogie.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, my brother, man, tell my brother man, I

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Speaker 5: appreciate you coming on with us today.

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Speaker 3: Man, listen.

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Speaker 5: I had the opportunity to work with Tim on f

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Speaker 5: S one yuah and in New in New York City

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Speaker 5: for for a couple of years. And uh, we used

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Speaker 5: to go back and forth about basketball, about basketball, and

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Speaker 5: I challenged Tim one day to a game of horse

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Speaker 5: and he looked at me. He was like, boy, please,

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Speaker 5: So we walked across the street. He took the he

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Speaker 5: took his basketball out the bag. And needless to know,

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Speaker 5: the man can still basketball. So he still has one

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Speaker 5: up on me. So he did take me down in

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Speaker 5: the game of horse. But till before we get to

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Speaker 5: the NBA, I want to ask you ask you a question.

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Speaker 5: Me and Levall was talking about this.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh.

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Speaker 5: You know the deep Tim Hardaway juniors with Denver Nuggets now,

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Speaker 5: but he also played basketball at the University of Michigan.

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Speaker 5: So give us some insight on what this game means

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Speaker 5: and and how do you think that this game is

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Speaker 5: going to take shape tomorrow? I mean on Saturdays.

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Speaker 8: Man, you know, everybody in mission, I still I still

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Speaker 8: in Michigan, everybody in Michigan, raving over. You know, Michigan State, Michigan.

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Speaker 8: But you know Michigan is at the Final four, and

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Speaker 8: they expected them to be at the Final four, and

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Speaker 8: they expect them to go all win win right now,

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Speaker 8: because they got a deep team. They play well, they

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Speaker 8: play hard. One thing they got to do is cut

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Speaker 8: down on their turnovers. They if they don't have any

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Speaker 8: unforced turnover, especially laden the ball game, and just keep

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Speaker 8: playing the game mental. And because you know, the Big

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Speaker 8: Ten is always considered, always considered the toughest, strongest, uh uh.

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Speaker 8: You know, teams that come out to Big Ten and

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Speaker 8: they play physical, that's what they do they play physical

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Speaker 8: and the in your face, they knocked you down. Referees

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Speaker 8: don't call fouls. You just it's like almost playing outdoors,

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Speaker 8: you know and pick up basketball. So you know, they

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Speaker 8: look they looking to play physical and they looking they

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Speaker 8: play their game. But I tell you this, man, the

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Speaker 8: Arizona team, man, they they they wasn't number one or

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Speaker 8: number two for the preseason for nothing. Man. They it

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Speaker 8: took them a lot of bumps and bruises, ups and downs,

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Speaker 8: tries and tripulations to find really where they were supposed

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Speaker 8: to be at now they were supposed to play, and

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Speaker 8: they found they stride late in the season and they

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Speaker 8: just gone, you know, uh to another level right now.

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Speaker 8: So that's gonna be a good, good, good game. I

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Speaker 8: think that's gonna be. Really that's gonna be a national

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Speaker 8: championship game to me. But you know, they still got

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Speaker 8: to play one more against Indiana or Connecticut. But I say,

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Speaker 8: will wins that Arizona game? I think Michigan, will they

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Speaker 8: win the championship?

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Speaker 3: Man's that's a lot of people what they're saying.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, and hearing the reports on

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Speaker 1: Michigan saying this could be the best Michigan team that's

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Speaker 1: ever played. Dude, you know, I was making a point

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Speaker 1: to Plex. I feel like, while coverage and technology is

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Speaker 1: think it works against today's athlete versus helped it.

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Speaker 3: I think that in simpler times.

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Speaker 1: We sat down and we watched, we saw details like

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Speaker 1: again bringing you into the show. We can tell people

872
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: that before there was an Alan Iverson crossover. AI to answer,

873
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: there was Tim Hardaway's crossover. We knew this, like the

874
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: details of what somebody brought to the table with their game.

875
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 3: I don't know that that exists now.

876
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a couple of guys you'll see, you know,

877
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: at the pro level, you'll you'll see guys that you

878
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: talk about that you know, like kind of like from

879
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: from older you know, they're older guys, Steph Curry, you know,

880
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: Lebron James. You know, you will throw out some new

881
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: ones like SGA. But do we really know these guys,

882
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: like when they're in college, do we really know them?

883
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: I feel like once we got away from like maybe

884
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: the era of time like when Anthony Davis and them

885
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: were in college or whatever, it just doesn't seem like

886
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: we know the personalities like we did back when there

887
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: was a Billy Owens and a Derrick Coleman. You knew

888
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: who they were, you know, like a Lawrence Moten. Now

889
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 1: I'm the nameing off Syracuse, but you know you talk

890
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: about Yukon and you know with Rip and all of

891
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: those guys like Donyelle the Marshalls. Right, it's like we

892
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 1: knew the personalities of these teams and that's what made

893
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: them so iconic. Do these teams this day, in this

894
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: day and age, do they have Do they have the

895
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: ability to even compete or contend to be considered the

896
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: greatest team that ever played for a university when you

897
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: have teams that like the Fab five that exist at

898
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 1: your school.

899
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 8: You know, some people ask me that, and I said,

900
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 8: what where do you get that from? I don't I

901
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 8: don't understand the mindset of you saying this could be

902
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 8: the greatest Michigan basketball college basketball team that ever was

903
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 8: a symbol. I don't understand how anybody even can say that, because,

904
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 8: first of all, I say this, these are all transferst

905
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 8: None of these guys stayed three or four years at

906
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 8: the University of Michigan. So you got so you got

907
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 8: Glenn Rice stayed three or four years. You got Sean

908
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 8: Sean Higgins that I played three or four years there

909
00:47:58,800 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 8: at Michigan.

910
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 3: You had.

911
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 8: Who else, Will Meal Roberts, you know, played three or

912
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 8: four years, of Mells, Terry Mills that played three or

913
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 8: four years at Michigan. You know, you had guys that

914
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 8: played at Michigan and went through the ups and downs

915
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 8: and the bumps and the bruises through that conference. You know.

916
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 8: You know, they lost to not that they don't know.

917
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 8: They lost to Illinois in the conference tournament by thirty.

918
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 8: They lost in the conference tournament by thirty. And Glenn

919
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 8: Rice said, look, follow my lead, and he averaged whatever

920
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 8: he averaged in six games. And he and nobody. First

921
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 8: of all, nobody on that team at Michigan can shoot

922
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 8: like Lenn Rice. Nobody on that team that Michigan had

923
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 8: six NBA players on that team, six to seven NBA

924
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 8: players on that team that won that championship in eighty nine.

925
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 8: That beat my guys from Illinois that I was rooting for,

926
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 8: Nick Anderson and uh Kendall Gill and those guys Kenny Battle.

927
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 8: You know. So yeah, I'm saying this. I don't know

928
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 8: why people try to say this was the best Michigan

929
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 8: team you know to ever assemble, you know ass you know,

930
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 8: besides the Fab five and then you know, yet they

931
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 8: forget about the championship team that really won a championship

932
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 8: in eighty nine. Why you disguarding them? You know, I

933
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 8: love Fab five, but we're talking about who really who

934
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 8: won it?

935
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 3: Who won it?

936
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 6: Right?

937
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 8: You want it? Let's talk about who wanted Let's stop

938
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 8: talking about you know, Fast five. I love the five five,

939
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 8: but they did not win it. So the really the

940
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 8: best team to ever come out of Michigan, you know

941
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 8: it is it's still you know, the eighty nine team

942
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 8: that won it all. You got to win it all

943
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 8: to be the best team they ever done it. So

944
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 8: they I think right now the eighty nine team is

945
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 8: the best team to win it. You know whoever done

946
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 8: it for? Miss you know, now we get to this

947
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 8: stage where we're talking about these other guys. They all transfers,

948
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,479
Speaker 8: they have they have, they all transfer they came all

949
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 8: five to six of them came from a different school

950
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 8: and this year you know, so so how basically how

951
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 8: can they be Michigan really you know, alarms or or

952
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 8: or or you know, investing in Michigan when you only

953
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 8: come there for one year and you win it and

954
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:34,240
Speaker 8: then you leave. I don't understand how.

955
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 3: Does that work? How does that work like that?

956
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: Because all the transfer in the n I L Like,

957
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: how is it possible for teams to build that type

958
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: of a relationship with their fan base in the n

959
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: i L era Because we were just talking about how

960
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: if you go into the tournament and you play at

961
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: a high level that a team is going to come

962
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: take you. There's like a Cinderella team. You come in,

963
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: you play and ball out. There's going to be a

964
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: power for a team that comes to get you and

965
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: bring you in on their team. So that's that's a

966
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: done deal. How do you build a reputation or a

967
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: relationship with your fan base when you're transfers and you're

968
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: only there for one season?

969
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 3: How does that work? Tell?

970
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know. I'm removed from college since eighty nine.

971
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 8: So that's that's the question I would like for somebody

972
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,959
Speaker 8: to answer myself. And they don't have to answer either.

973
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 8: You know, it's just it's still it's still up and down,

974
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 8: you know. Rick Patino said this. Rick Patino said after

975
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 8: this old after he was done, he said his assistant coach.

976
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 8: They had a meeting the next day. Assistant coach said, well,

977
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 8: you know, in this hypothetical, they this is how things go.

978
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 8: This is not I'm not not saying this is going

979
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 8: to happen or this is what they're saying is going

980
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 8: to happen, but this is what they say that you know,

981
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 8: and he just putting it. You know, you know how

982
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 8: how they look at these guys transfer. Well, you know

983
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 8: my man from BYU, he's looking to transfer. When to

984
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 8: look at him? Somebody from Connecticut is looking at transfer.

985
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 8: We need to look at him. Somebody when you sell

986
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 8: l A he's looking at transfer. We need to look

987
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 8: at him. And that's the that's the high, right high,

988
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 8: high foul profile of their Their team is those guys.

989
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 8: And that's what their assistant coach is coming to him

990
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 8: and saying, look, these high foul profile guys are look

991
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 8: in the league. We need to look at them and

992
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 8: see if they want to come to our school. And

993
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 8: he said that he don't like that. He don't he

994
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 8: don't like the way the college game is going right now,

995
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 8: because that's the way it is. We we I don't

996
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 8: seen when I was scouting. I didn't actually seen other

997
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 8: assistant coaches while the guys was warming up, or after

998
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 8: he warmed up from another team, go and talk to

999
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 8: these kids and pitch them to come to their school

1000
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 8: for next year. And I said, and I asked somebody,

1001
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 8: I said, that's that's illegal, man, you can't do that.

1002
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 8: And they was like, yeah, that's what they're doing. That's

1003
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 8: how they're doing it. That's how they recruit the guys.

1004
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 8: I mean, this is this is not even March. We're

1005
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 8: talking about in December or or or November. They talking

1006
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 8: to kids something about next year, Yo, we don't need

1007
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 8: you next year. You could, you'll fit well with our

1008
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 8: team next year. Here's my number and passing them a card.

1009
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 8: I'm like, man, I mean that that's that to me,

1010
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 8: that's just disrespectful to my team, my my school. Uh,

1011
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 8: and what you're doing right now in my face. But

1012
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 8: they get away with it.

1013
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 5: Hey, JOm so so switching over to the NBA. Switching

1014
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 5: over to the NBA. We'll get to winby and the

1015
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 5: Spurs in a minute. But right now today, who would

1016
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 5: get your vote for the n b A Most Valuable Player?

1017
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 8: Right now today, I'm still going with Sga. The way

1018
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 8: he takes over games, the way he does things out

1019
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 8: there on the court. Uh, how you put his team

1020
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 8: on his back? But but but when is a close

1021
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 8: close second? I think, you know, in recent years it

1022
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 8: was you know, the voting was was you know you

1023
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 8: it was overwhelming this guy, overwhelming that guy. I think

1024
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 8: this is going to be a real close race. I

1025
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 8: think it's going to be a real close ballot. Everybody

1026
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 8: is going to be surprised how close it will be.

1027
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 8: But I think that SGA and and you know what,

1028
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 8: I'm gonna say this, The way these t two teams

1029
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 8: are playing, the way these two young men are playing,

1030
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 8: they can't take a day off. The pressures on both

1031
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 8: of them. Now, let's see, now, now you know, now

1032
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 8: so so so san Antonio can still catch us catch

1033
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 8: okay see if okay See loses three, four, five in

1034
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 8: a row, you know, because it's only like eight games left,

1035
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 8: you know, five, six, seven games left, so they can

1036
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 8: really catch they can still you know, they can percentage right,

1037
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 8: they can still catch them because they're only five games up.

1038
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 8: So if san Antonio keeps up there what they're doing,

1039
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 8: and and okay See has a little slippage, you know,

1040
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 8: then the edge's gonna go right to Winby. Okay, gotta

1041
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 8: gotta do their job. They team, their team has to

1042
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 8: do their job for s g A to win that

1043
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 8: that MVP. But I do think that Winby, I mean

1044
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 8: it is close. He's close right behind him, and they

1045
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 8: and and and they on their neck for that number

1046
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 8: one seed in the West and the number one seed

1047
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 8: in the NBA. So I'm just I'm just saying my

1048
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 8: my pick is s g A right now, But Winby

1049
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:49,919
Speaker 8: still has a shot. Yeah, and and and he's still

1050
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 8: a close second.

1051
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 4: M hm.

1052
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 3: Who has a better team?

1053
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 8: Who has a better team?

1054
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 5: In my opinion? Well, the way that the sening San

1055
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 5: Antonio Spurs are looking right now, I'm gonna be honest,

1056
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,959
Speaker 5: I don't think anybody can beat them in a seven

1057
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 5: game series. Maybe in a five game series, but I

1058
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 5: think that defensively, uh, they're tough and trying to contain

1059
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 5: Winby for seven games, I don't think anybody can do it.

1060
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,439
Speaker 5: I just think that the San Antonio Spurs are ready

1061
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,240
Speaker 5: this year and they ready to come out of the West.

1062
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 8: I'll tell you this. Plus you right, you right, you right.

1063
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 8: SGA said, you know we don't have an answer for them.

1064
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 8: You know they got our number. You know, were donna

1065
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 8: have a tough time with them in the playoffs, but

1066
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 8: you still gotta play the game and until and till

1067
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 8: you knock okay See off that throne. I'm still putting

1068
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 8: them as favorite. But I can't. I cannot disagree with

1069
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 8: you because I mean, uh, San Antonio, many they scare me. Man,

1070
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 8: they looking good, They looking good now they now everybody

1071
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 8: got to stay healthy. That's the whole. If everybody stay healthy,

1072
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 8: then we're gonna we're gonna be set for a great, great,

1073
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 8: great playoff run.

1074
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: Can anybody out of the East beat one of those

1075
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: two teams y'all are discussing, I.

1076
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 8: Don't think nobody. I don't think no, I don't think

1077
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,439
Speaker 8: nobody from the East. They donna give them. They gonna

1078
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 8: give them a tough series. Now, it ain't gonna be

1079
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 8: a walk in the park or or a piece of kke.

1080
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 8: You know. But uh, I say that Detroit Pistons, when

1081
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 8: they're healthy, they're right, you know. And and and next Detroit,

1082
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 8: Detroit didn't have like four they players for five of

1083
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 8: they players for the game against Okay See and Okay,

1084
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 8: she still had a tough time playing against them and

1085
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 8: beating them in overtime. So you know that tells the

1086
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 8: character of Detroit Pistons. So you know we'll see you know,

1087
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 8: Kay Cunningham got to come back to Kate Cunningham too.

1088
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 8: But yeah, I feel that Detroit can give them a run.

1089
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 8: I don't think nobody else in the East can really

1090
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 8: run and I don't and I don't think you know, everybody.

1091
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 8: I'm gonna tell you that. I don't think in New York.

1092
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 8: Everybody's talking about New York. No, I'm gonna tell you

1093
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 8: this New York Knicks has to prove to themselves.

1094
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:29,959
Speaker 4: Dad.

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00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 8: I mean as a team, I don't feel that they

1096
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 8: feel that they can win it. They don't look like

1097
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 8: they they look lost. Something is wrong there. I don't

1098
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 8: know what's wrong, but you know, it's the whole team.

1099
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 8: Everybody want to blame it on Cat. Everybody want to

1100
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 8: blame it on this person. I think it's the whole team,

1101
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 8: and I think the team needs to have a meeting

1102
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 8: and get some stuff off their chests. I think they

1103
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 8: got a lot of stuff on their chest that want

1104
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 8: to get off their chest, but they scared to talk

1105
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 8: to one another about it. I think they should have

1106
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 8: a whole uh just a great power wow amongst themselves.

1107
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 8: If they need to push and shove, if they need

1108
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 8: to get somebody's face, to cut somebody out, they need

1109
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 8: to get something off their chest for real. That's how

1110
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 8: it looks. They look like they somebody. It looks like

1111
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 8: they're if somebody scared to somebody, scared to say something

1112
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 8: to somebody. It just doesn't look right there. Man, it

1113
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 8: just doesn't look right.

1114
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 3: But it's not supposed to be.

1115
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,959
Speaker 8: But I will say this, Boston, Boston is looking really

1116
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 8: really good. Boston is looking really good. You know, they

1117
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 8: don't have their whole team. They who they don't have

1118
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 8: Bushevich that that's coming off the bench, that that's a

1119
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 8: three point threat that he's been working out. So you know,

1120
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 8: I think that Boston' give him a run for their

1121
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 8: money too.

1122
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:56,919
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

1123
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 5: It was supposed to be the season. No tier, he's

1124
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 5: halliburt in Indiana. In Indiana, don't Jason Tatum, but they

1125
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 5: just say it just seems like they just crumbled. And

1126
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 5: the New York Licks they don't look like that. That

1127
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 5: like they want to play with each other. That's what

1128
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 5: it looks like to me. But the Jason Tatum effect.

1129
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 5: I just think that when it comes down to it, uh,

1130
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 5: I think I think it's gonna be Detroit and the

1131
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 5: Boston Celtics and the Eastern Conference Finals, And I just

1132
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 5: don't trust the Pistons.

1133
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 3: I just don't.

1134
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 5: Hey when when when the light skin and Sassin he's

1135
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 5: getting better. Were day in and day out, Jaylen Brown

1136
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 5: and called himself the best two way guard in all

1137
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 5: of basketball. But I just think when it comes down

1138
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 5: to it, and in the Eastern Conference, man, I just

1139
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 5: I just think that Boston Celtic is gonna come come

1140
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 5: out of the East.

1141
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 8: I tell you this. I'm gonna say this, man, it's

1142
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 8: gonna I hope they match up. I hope they match

1143
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 8: up in the Eastern Conference finals because if you get

1144
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 8: just think, if you get Boston Celtics and the Detroit

1145
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 8: Pistons like back in the heyday in the Eastern Conference

1146
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 8: and then you get yeah, and then you got OKC

1147
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 8: and San Antonio Spurs in the Western Conference finals, you

1148
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 8: know that'd be a bard both of them be the

1149
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 8: most watched uh Western Eastern Conference Finals ever because they

1150
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 8: want to see that type of brand. If I tell

1151
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 8: you this, don't count out Denver Nuggets. Do not count

1152
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 8: out the different Nuggets and what they're doing.

1153
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 5: Now, I'm Nuggets as long as they got the joker,

1154
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 5: you know.

1155
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 8: And another thing I'm gonna tell you this man. Another thing,

1156
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 8: they not giving my son enough credit. He should be

1157
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 8: uh six Man of the Year candidate one, and they're

1158
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 8: not talking about him enough and what he has promoting

1159
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 8: and what he has done in his this season this year.

1160
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 8: You know, he's number one, and we me and him

1161
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 8: looked at all the stats of whoever they talking about

1162
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 8: it ahead of him. He's averaging more, he's shooting better,

1163
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 8: he's his skilled goal percentage is at forty five percent,

1164
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 8: forty four percent from two's forty one percent from three. Uh,

1165
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 8: he's he's the first guy, No, he's the third guy

1166
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 8: in NBA history to have seven more three corners in

1167
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 8: five games this year in a season. So you know,

1168
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 8: it's a lot of things that they're not saying and

1169
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 8: they looking at other people and they're wrong. My son

1170
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 8: should be a cannidate for six many years more and

1171
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 8: I think he should win it.

1172
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: Well here now hard away, god, yeah, we add hard

1173
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: the way for to be six Man of the Year.

1174
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: Tell before before we let you go before we let

1175
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: you go, just real quick and we're up on it.

1176
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 3: But the Chicago Bulls deal where they waved Jade n Ivy.

1177
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: After his his comments, and everybody knows that they're they're

1178
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 1: well documented.

1179
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 3: Did you have an opinion on it?

1180
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 8: You know, I got opinion on it. You know. I

1181
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 8: wish they wouldn't have waved. To my think. I wish

1182
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 8: they would find him, set him down for a couple

1183
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 8: of games, made sure that his mind and health is good. Uh,

1184
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 8: let them get some young man. Do you need counseling?

1185
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 8: Do you need help? Do you you know, talk to him,

1186
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 8: make sure that he's all right, because he sounds like

1187
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 8: he needs help. He's off the rails on a lot

1188
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 8: of things. It sounds like he needs somebody to talk

1189
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 8: to and somebody get get some stuff off his chest,

1190
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 8: like the Yeah, they turned their back. You know. But

1191
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 8: I will say that I will want him to I

1192
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 8: will want him to come back to the league. I

1193
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 8: hope somebody pick him up. That that dude is a

1194
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 8: great talent. He could play the game bad basketball, and

1195
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 8: he's young and he wants to play and he wants

1196
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 8: to prove himself again. He needs just another opportunity and

1197
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,919
Speaker 8: hopefull he gets another opportunity because I like the kid.

1198
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 8: I like the kid, and I told I tell everybody

1199
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 8: in Michigan, if somebody got his number and somebody knows him, Tim,

1200
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 8: to call me so we can talk. So I could,

1201
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 8: you know, so we just talk, you know, just whatever

1202
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 8: you want to talk about. You know sometimes you know,

1203
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 8: in our community, a lot of people don't like to talk.

1204
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 8: But we need to start talking to one another. We

1205
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 8: need to uplift one another. We need to encourage one

1206
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 8: another and to talk and let's and let's get whatever

1207
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 8: you need to get out. Let's get it out and

1208
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 8: so you can move on in your life and move

1209
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 8: forward in your life and be better in your life

1210
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 8: with your kids, with your wife or what whoever. That's

1211
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 8: what I would say.

1212
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's Tim Hardaway, Senior NBA Hall of Famer

1213
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 1: point guard, Extraordinary, five time NBA All Store and five

1214
01:04:58,680 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: time NBA My brother.

1215
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 8: Let me see you this foure Go, Lindsey Hunter and I.

1216
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 8: We got Crossover podcasts. You see us on YouTube every week.

1217
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 8: We talk about everything man, sports, hell, you know, business,

1218
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 8: whatever you want to discuss, you know, look at us

1219
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 8: Crossover podcasts on YouTube, Lindsay Hunter and myself, a guy

1220
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 8: named Ted, and Lindsay Hund his son Caleb.

1221
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 3: So yeah, there you go.

1222
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: Make sure you check out the podcast Crossover Baby.

1223
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 3: That's Tim Hardaway Senor.

1224
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,480
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