1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: From Mediators World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This is 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Cal's weekend review, presented by Steele. Steel products are available 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: only at authorized dealers. For more, go to Steel Dealers 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: dot com. Now here's your host. Ryan cal Callahan, a 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: Chicago man, has become the first hunter in one and 6 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: fifty years to legally harvest a white tale within Windy 7 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: City limits. Around seven am on October two, Jose Guzman, 8 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: not the ball player I believe, set up his twenty 9 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: ft portable tree stand in the William Power State Recreation 10 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: Area and took a white tailed dough with a crossbow. 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: According to Chicago historians, the last deer taken within city 12 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: limits was an eighteen sixty five by first Ward Alderman 13 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: William Cox. Be willing to bet this is the first 14 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: dear ever to be taken with a crossbow inside city limits. 15 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: Guzman was selected as one of eight among thirty seven 16 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: applicants to be given a deer tag in the State 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: Recreation Area. It surrounds Wolf Lake and is located in 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: the southeastern part of the city. If you look at 19 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: a map, you can see that the recreation area as 20 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: well within city limits. It's only about nineteen miles from 21 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: the heart of the cold, cold city, and there are 22 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: houses within fifty yards of where Guzman took his shot. 23 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: This was the first year the Illinois Department of Natural 24 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: Resources offered deer tags in Chicago. They opened the season 25 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: because they've seen poaching, trespassing, and other undesirable activities within 26 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: the park. They want to increase the number of legal 27 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: recreators in the area in the hopes that it will 28 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: discourage illicit activity. Hunters apparently were part of that equation. 29 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: Good Anya Illinois Department of Natural Resources. Guzman told local 30 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: media he plans to continue hunting through the season and 31 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: the hopes of taking a buck. But even if he doesn't, 32 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: I'd say this is a season for the history books. 33 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: This week we've got the fishy business of wall light tournaments, wotas, 34 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: and the Snort Report. But first I'm gonna tell you 35 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: about my week. In My week has been spent doing 36 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: my all time favorite thing, antelope hunting. Even though I 37 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: am currently antelopelus, I've been having an absolute blast. The 38 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: wind has been blowing bent nite clay particles at thirty 39 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: miles an hour for four days. Old Snort and I 40 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: have been tearing it up and sleeping very well inside 41 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: the Black Series camper, which is currently rocking back and 42 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: forth ever so subtly as I record this week's podcast. 43 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: I was joined this week by the international man of mystery, 44 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: Dirt Myth, who until this weekend had never killed a pheasant, 45 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: which brings me to the Snort report. Old snort Akus 46 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: is beat up, nose, raw and swollen calloused eyes. The 47 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: exposed skin patch from a rattlesnake bite on her ear 48 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: has been rubbed raw. She's got tender feet from prickly 49 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: pair cactus attacks. But just this morning found three roosters, 50 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: four sharp tail and one lone Hungarian partridge, all before 51 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: thirty am. That's my first ever double limit of upland 52 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: birds over one of my own dogs. It's been a 53 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: very special trip. We've managed to get multiple limits of 54 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: roosters while in camp. We ate a bunch of them too. 55 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: But back to Snort. Her nose is amazing, but so 56 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: is her confidence in it. I'm not seeing a lot 57 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: of brush busting with this girl. In regards to hands signals. 58 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: We've fully regressed on this one and we need to 59 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: get some training time back in before we really get 60 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: into duck season snorts at a point where she listens 61 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: to her instincts first than me second. But regardless, no 62 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: lost birds this trip, which is exactly what you want. 63 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: Lots of snort reports ahead. I'll let you know how 64 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: we go onto the South Dakota as an opener next week. 65 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a heck of a road trip by 66 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: the time we're done. Here's a non sequitur for you. 67 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: I'm working remotely in super remote Montana via a Starlink 68 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: satellite full WiFi network out of the Black Series Camper. 69 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: I love it for the fact that I could not 70 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: make this trip happen without it. I don't have to 71 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: go ripping two hours back into a town to get 72 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: full cell coverage to upload stuff or whatever. And I 73 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: think it's just hilarious to have a fully functioning satellite 74 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: dish that provides seamless WiFi while still going out and 75 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: like digging a hole to take a crap in. But 76 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: here's my question for you. We know what remote work 77 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: has done for rural America, but what would it do 78 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: for game populations here? Like I'm feeling a little dirty 79 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: about the felt like if you can be connected anywhere 80 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: you can do more stuff outside in theory, which could 81 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: put more pressure on game populations. Tangle web, we weave, 82 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, moll that over a s K C 83 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: A l at the Meat eater dot Com. Moving on 84 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: to the fishing desk. It's not every day of a 85 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: walleye tournament in Ohio gets coverage in the New York 86 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: Times and Washington Post, but that's exactly what happened after 87 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: a pair of anglers got caught stuffing their fish with 88 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: lead weights. Jacob Runyan and Chase Kaminski were due to 89 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: win the Lake Erie Walleye Trail Fishing Tournament earlier this 90 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: month and cash a check for nearly twenty nine grand. 91 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: This wasn't the first time they had had success. Just 92 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: before they got caught, tournament director Jason Fisher predicted that 93 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: they'd also win the Team of the Year award, But 94 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: Fisher told media outlets that something didn't smell right, and 95 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't the walleye. The seven pound fish the pair 96 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: turned in looked suspiciously like four pound fish, and Fisher 97 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: could feel something hard in the fish's stomachs. When he 98 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: cut one of them open, he discovered an egg size 99 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: twelve ounce lead weight. The stomachs of the other fish 100 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: also contained lead weights, along with weirdly enough, wall filets. 101 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: Several cameras were rolling when Fisher began cutting the fish open. 102 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: I'd play you the audio, but this is a family 103 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: friendly show and I don't want to make our podcast 104 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: engineers bleep out all the f words. Suffice it to 105 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: say that Midwest walleye anglers take their tournaments seriously, and 106 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: they were none too happy. Runyon and Kaminski were disqualified 107 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: from the tournament, and they're probably lucky they escaped with 108 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: all their fingers and toes. The New York Times reports 109 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: that they've won each of the three previous Lake Erie 110 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: Walleye Trail events this year, along with other tournaments elsewhere. 111 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: Yahoo Sports estimates their total earnings have netted over four 112 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. Other competitors have been suspicious for about 113 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: a year now, according to fellow walleye angler Ross Robertson. 114 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: Robertson said in an article for the Meat Eater dot 115 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: Com that Runyon and Kaminski all of a sudden started 116 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: winning tournaments. Quote like Tom Brady playing in Friday nights 117 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: at your local high school. Formal complaints had been filed, 118 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: and one of the anglers ailed a light detector test 119 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: at a previous event, but there wasn't enough evidence to 120 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: prove that they've been cheating until Fisher started cutting into 121 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: their fish. I don't know whether these two have cheated before, 122 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: but it sure does look suspicious. They loaded their fish 123 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: with eight extra pounds of weight, which isn't something you 124 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: do if this is your first time cheating in a 125 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: big tournament. That's something you do when you've done it 126 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: before and you're high on your own fumes. You've never 127 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: been caught before. What's a few extra led weights? Also, 128 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: you won't be surprised to learn that this isn't their 129 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: first run in with the law. Local media reports that 130 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: Runyon pleaded not guilty on July to one count of 131 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: domestic violence and one count of unlawful restraint, so you know, 132 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: Fishy is right. Fisher said on Facebook that he sent 133 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: all the evidence to the Ohio Department of Natural Resources 134 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: and the DNR has opened an investigation. The Kiahoga County 135 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: Prosecutor has said that he plans to charge Kaminsky and 136 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: Runyon with felony theft, depending on the degree of felony theft. 137 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: These two could face some serious fines and even prison time. 138 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: Moving on to the Woe Woe WoT us desk, the U. S. 139 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: Supreme Court just heard oral arguments in a case that 140 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: could end up weakening wetland protections under the Clean Water Act. 141 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: The case is called sack It v. E. P A, 142 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: and the Court will decide whether to change the standards 143 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: by which streams and wetlands are considered waters of the 144 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: United States, or WoT us for short. We covered wotas 145 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: and the Clean Water Act in more detail and episode, 146 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: but here's how the situation currently stands. A two thousand 147 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: six Supreme Court ruling determined that a wetland counts as 148 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: WoT us and qualifies for federal protection if it has 149 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: a quote significant nexus to another large navigable body of water. 150 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: The ruling has been criticized for being too broad and 151 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: too vague, but it's given the Environmental Protection Agency a 152 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: wide latitude to protect wetlands in our country. In this case, 153 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: the justices will decide whether to scrap the significant nexus 154 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: test and replace it with something else. The petitioners in 155 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: this case, a family called the Sackets, want the court 156 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: to use a strict standard that would make it much 157 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: more difficult for wetlands to qualify for protections. The standard, 158 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: according to a great article by Joshua hire Over at 159 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: South Dakota Public Broadcasting, would be based on a two 160 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: part test. First, the wetland would have to have relatively permanent, 161 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: continuous surface water connection to adjacent water. Second, that adjacent 162 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: water must be commercially navigable. I don't have exact numbers, 163 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: but it's safe to say that such a test would 164 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: remove protections for thousands, if not millions, of acres of wetlands, 165 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: wetlands that ducks and geese rely on every year to feed, breed, 166 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: and thrive. The judges have heard oral arguments for this case, 167 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: and there's reason to hope and reason to be concerned. 168 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: Based on the judges questions, both conservative and liberal justices 169 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: seem to think the old significant nexus test is unworkable. 170 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: It's likely that they'll replace that test with something else, 171 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: but that something else might not end up being as 172 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: bad as the sack At suggestion. Bloomberg Law reports that 173 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: even the more conservative justices felt that the adjacency definition 174 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: did not require a surface connection. In other words, they 175 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: believe that a wetland deserves protection under the Clean Water 176 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: Act even if it doesn't connect on the surface to 177 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: a navigable waterway, which makes total sense, right. That's like 178 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: saying that a three inch deep invertebrate producing super honey 179 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: hole for migratory birds would not be protectable, no matter 180 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: how big it is, if it didn't connect to something 181 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: where you could run a rip and jet boat, which 182 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: seems a little silly. The Court won't announce its ruling 183 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: until next year, but this is one case we'll be 184 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: watching very closely. Moving on to the elk desk, the 185 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: New Mexico Wildlife Federation and Backcountry Hunters and Anglers published 186 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: a bombshell report earlier this month slamming the state's Department 187 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: of Game and Fish for quote privatizing elk hunting opportunities. 188 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: They claim that the state is favoring landowners, outfitters, and 189 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: nonresident hunters in how it hands out licenses, and resident 190 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: public land hunters are getting left out to dry. The 191 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: report outlines detailed license allocation data obtained from the New 192 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: Mexico Department of Game and Fish through a public records request. 193 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: According to the report, the department stone walled the request 194 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: until the state's attorney General ordered the records to be 195 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: made public. The department claims that delay was due to 196 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: a conflict in state law between the Inspection of State 197 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: Records Act and the Public Records Act. Whatever the reason 198 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: for the delay, both sides agree on the top line number. 199 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: Over thirty five percent of the state's ELK licenses end 200 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: up in the hands of nonresident hunters. The state officially 201 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: sets aside only six percent of its licenses for nonresidents, 202 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: but it also runs a program by which landowners can 203 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: obtain licenses and then sell them to hunters. Over of 204 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: those landowner licenses go to non residents, which is how 205 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: out of state folks end up with over one third 206 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: of all ELK licenses in the state. What's more, of 207 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: those landowner licenses are unit wide. These tags allow hunters 208 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: to move outside of landowner's property and onto public land, 209 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: where they compete with hunters who have drawn public land tags. 210 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: Non residents pay more for licenses, which is why almost 211 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: every state sets society certain percentage of their tags for 212 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: out of state hunters. States make more money selling nonresident licenses, 213 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: and that money is used for conservation purposes. Also, as 214 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: someone who frequently hunts outside of Montana. I've benefited from 215 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: this system. I'm not opposed to out of state hunters. However, 216 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: the Wildlife Federation and b H argue that New Mexico 217 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: is an outlier among Western states. New Mexico gives more 218 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: licenses to nonresident and landowning hunters, and those licenses are 219 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: more lucrative both for the state and the landowner. That's 220 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: why they claim that New Mexico is privatizing elk in 221 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: the state. Ryan Dharr, a spokesman for the New Mexico 222 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: Department of Game and Fish, took issue with the claim 223 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: that New Mexico as an outlier among Western states. He 224 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: points out that while Arizona limits nonresident licenses to ten percent, 225 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: Colorado's overall license allocation closely aligns with New Mexico's. A 226 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: Colorado Parks and Wildlife bulletin from April of this year 227 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: reports that for the majority of hunt codes, the proportion 228 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: of elk and deer licenses allocated to residents is sixty 229 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: with thirty five percent allocated to non residents. Of course, 230 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,119 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that issued licenses, as opposed to allocated licenses, 231 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: adhere to that ratio. But it does demonstrate that at 232 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 1: least one other state is content with shoeing about thirty 233 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: of its ELK licenses to nonresidents. Jesse do Bell, the 234 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: executive director of the New Mexico Wildlife Federation, emphasized that 235 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: he's not opposed to nonresident hunters or to landowners, but 236 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: as it currently stands, the system favors those who have 237 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: the means to pay top dollar for those landowner tags. 238 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: Most importantly, I'd say it's not even a resident nonresident issue. 239 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: It's a wealthy versus non wealthy issue. People of average 240 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: means don't have the ability to enjoy this activity at 241 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: the same rate that wealthy people do. And you know, 242 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: in Europe, hunting is a rich person's sport and it 243 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: shouldn't be that in New Mexico. Do Bell says he 244 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: would like to see the state distribute all licenses through 245 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: the lottery system. Of those tags would be set aside 246 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: for residents, while ten percent would be set aside for 247 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: non residents. Everyone, including landowners, would put in for the 248 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: same pool of tags, and those would be distributed the 249 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: same way to everyone. Land Owners would then charge for 250 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: access to hunt their property rather than for licenses you 251 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: can't sell something that you don't own. So if we 252 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: had a system that allowed landowners to sell the access 253 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: to their property, but the tag was distributed through the 254 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: appropriate democratic process that it's supposed to be in the 255 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: North American model of wildlife conservation, then I think we 256 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: would have a system that would truly be win win 257 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: win win for the public, win for the landowners, and 258 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: win for the wildlife. It's tempting make this landowner versus 259 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: hunter issue, but do Belle was quick to acknowledge that 260 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: landowners do critical habitat conservation work and they need to 261 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: be rewarded for maintaining elk herds on their properties. They 262 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: can charge way more for licenses than they can for access, 263 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: so they're simply responding to that incentive structure. But while 264 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: they own the land, they don't own the elk. Right now, 265 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: they're selling licenses for animals that the public owns. Changing 266 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: that system will require compromise and a lot of hard work, 267 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: but do Bell and others are hoping this report will 268 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: get the ball rolling. Ryan dhar of the Game and 269 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: Fish Department voiced a similar sentiment. He encouraged New Mexicans 270 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: to remember that this report represents only one perspective. The 271 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: department has to juggle a variety of stakeholders and quote. 272 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: Not all stakeholders will like the outcome. However, he said, 273 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: he hopes the report quote generates conversations among all interests 274 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: that result in a practical solutions to this complex challenge. 275 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: If you live in New Mexico and would like to 276 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: get involved in those conversations, visit take back your Elk 277 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: dot Com. That's take back your elk dot Com For 278 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: the rest of us. It's important to remain vigilant do 279 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: Bell pointed out that their system wasn't put in place overnight. 280 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: It was implemented gradually by small changes over many years. 281 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: If you want to make sure your state doesn't privatize 282 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: its wildlife, stay on top of proposed changes to your 283 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: license allocations system and make sure your voice is heard. 284 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: Moving on to the mule deer desk. A few weeks ago, 285 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: we talked about how difficult it can be for biologists 286 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: to estimate the population of any given species. They can't 287 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: count each individual, so they rely on surveys and models 288 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: to make those predictions. Well, the same is true for 289 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: migration pathways. Biologists can't follow every animal across the landscape, 290 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: and while GPS callers offer amazing insight, these devices are 291 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: expensive and can't be attached to every herd. In fact, 292 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: even after collering thousands of animals, wildlife biologists have only 293 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: positively identified a fraction of the migration roots used throughout 294 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: the West. Mule beer make two migrations each year between 295 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: their winter and summer ranges. In the winter, they moved 296 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: to lower elevations to avoid colder temps and high snow drifts. 297 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: In the summer, they moved back to higher elevations to 298 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: take advantage of quality summer forage. Migration roots can be 299 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: well over one hundred miles, and longest documented migration was 300 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: a two forty mile trek through Wyoming and Idaho. It 301 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: is believed that mule deer learned migration roots from their 302 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: mothers and follow those roots their entire life. You can 303 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: imagine their difficulty if they're following their usual route and 304 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: they come across a new road or subdivision. These structures 305 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: fragment their migration corridor and make it more difficult for 306 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: the herd to thrive. That's why knowing about and protecting 307 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: these corridors is so important. It helps the deer access 308 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: the food they need to breed, raise healthy fonds, and 309 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: ensure the continued survival of the species as a whole. 310 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: That's why I was intrigued to read a recent study 311 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: published by the University of Wyoming and Idaho Department of 312 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: Fishing Game. Rather than attached GPS colors to every animal, 313 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: the team of researchers developed a mathematical model that predicted 314 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: the migration roots of one thirty mule deer in Idaho 315 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: and Wyoming. What they found is that rather than taking 316 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: the shortest or most direct path, mule deer travel according 317 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: to a predictable set of barrier The most accurate versions 318 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: of the model predicted migration routes by taking into account 319 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: for factors terrain, snow melt, intensity of human development, and 320 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: new grass growth. The predicted roots took the deer through 321 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: areas with hilly terrain, shrebby vegetation, and less human development, 322 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: and the deer closely followed those predictions. This model will 323 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: be freely available to wildlife managers across the country and 324 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: will allow them to predict likely migration corridors of herds 325 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: that haven't been GPS collared. That information can save wildlife 326 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: departments thousands of dollars and man hours which can be 327 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 1: used instead to protect those likely corridors. Of course, if 328 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: protecting any particular corridor becomes controversial, biologists can still use 329 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: GPS collars to prove that their models are correct. But 330 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: protecting migration corridors is one of the most important things 331 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 1: we can be doing to improve habitat, and this model 332 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: will make it cheaper and easier to do. Moving on 333 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: to the international desk, a listener from Australia wrote in 334 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: recently to tell me about a new proposal that would 335 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: ban archery hunting in a huge portion of the continent. 336 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: The leaders of the state government of South Australia have 337 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: promised a ban bow hunting throughout the entire one million 338 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: square kilometer region. Susan Close, the state's Deputy premier, told 339 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: a local radio station that she's exploring all options to 340 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: make the ban a reality. This has come from a 341 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: deep concern held by people who understand the impact hunting 342 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: of the welfare of animals. They have not died immediately. 343 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: They tend to linger in a lot of pain, blood loss. 344 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: Now that's not to say it's impossible to give a 345 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: claim tonel with with the bow, but you are far 346 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: more likely to be able to end an animal's life 347 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: humanely and quickly. If you're using a gun, then you 348 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: are using bow and arrow, as you can probably tell 349 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: from closest comments. The move to ban bow hunting in 350 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: the state has been led by the Royal Society for 351 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. They've been pushing for 352 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: a ban across the continent, but right now the island 353 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: of Tasmania is the only region to ban bow hunting completely. 354 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: A spokesperson said that they want to ban all types 355 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: of bow hunting because quote, there is no way that 356 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: any kind of bow can humanely kill an animal. It 357 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: always bugs me when somebody says humanely kill. It takes 358 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: the emphasis off the animal in a way, right, It's 359 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: like we're humans. They are animals. I guarantee they don't 360 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: want to die. But I've seen many, many die instantly. 361 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: I've seen bow kills happen in ways that seem as 362 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: peaceful as you could possibly imagine. Animals who literally don't 363 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: understand that they've been hit, and they go about grazing 364 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: or bugling or whatever. But at the end of the day, 365 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: will never know what those animals are feeling. Feelings are 366 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: still reserved for humans. Zach Williams, the listener who told 367 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: me about this issue, said that a bow hunting band 368 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: would be devastating for him and his family. He says 369 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: he can't imagine being barred from participating in the sport 370 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: and he enjoys taking his kids out in the field. 371 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: He also uses bow hunting to put meat in the 372 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: freezer and control introduced animals on properties he can't rifle hunt. 373 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: He called bow hunting quote a way of life, and 374 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: I know more than a few American bow hunters who 375 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: would agree. Premier Close wants to institute the band through 376 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: unilateral regulation rather than the state legislature, but that doesn't 377 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 1: mean elected officials are immune from public pressure. The Conservation 378 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: and Hunting Alliance of South Australia has launched a letter 379 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: writing campaign urging hunters and anyone who cares about preserving 380 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: traditional hunting practices to write to the representatives. So if 381 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: you live in South Australia, now is the time to 382 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: send a clear message to your local MP. If you don't, 383 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: this should be a reminder to stay vigilant and be 384 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: on the lookout for similar bands in your neck of 385 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: the woods. That's all I've got for you this week. 386 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening. 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