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Speaker 1: Hi, Catherine, how I see.

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Speaker 2: I'm great. I'm great.

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Speaker 3: I just got back from a few days in Mexico

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Speaker 3: with some of my girlfriends and I love getting away

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Speaker 3: with my girlfriends.

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Speaker 1: Oh nice, where'd you go in Mexico?

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Speaker 2: We went to kan Kun.

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Speaker 3: We've got like a few hotels that we go to

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Speaker 3: and they just opened up a brand new ones.

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Speaker 2: We went to their brand new one. It was fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Nice. Nice. I am in Europe, you, guys. I am

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Speaker 1: in Parie, Grand Parie or great Peri And I'm never

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Speaker 1: really sure how you say it, gayperi, gaperi.

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Speaker 4: Guys.

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Speaker 2: Of course my husband would get that one.

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Speaker 1: And we're having a hell of a time.

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Speaker 5: I'm with Molly, my cousin, Yaminika, Eric my tour manager

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Speaker 5: who we call Erica, and I have shows coming up

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Speaker 5: in Brussels as I'm in Brussels on May seventeenth, I'm

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Speaker 5: in Amsterdam on May eighteenth, and then Oslo on May nineteenth.

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Speaker 5: And I have managed to keep my shit together in

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Speaker 5: Europe so far, so good, right, Yes, and we've.

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Speaker 1: Adjusted to the time.

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Speaker 5: We had three days in Rekuvic and we and yeah,

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Speaker 5: we're ready to rumble. So we're getting it all in.

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Speaker 5: We're getting it all in. I've been reading lots of

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Speaker 5: books on my flights. Yes, I'm just a happy camper,

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Speaker 5: very happy.

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Speaker 3: We'll do a little miniso soon with a round up

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Speaker 3: of all the books you've been reading and can recommend.

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Speaker 5: Okay, wonderful, wonderful, And our guest today, you know from

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Speaker 5: the Office and The Hangover movies, he has a new

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Speaker 5: book called Snap Foo, The Definitive Guide to History's Greatest

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Speaker 5: screw Ups. It is out now and it's very enjoyable.

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Speaker 5: Please welcome actor, comedian and writer Ed helms Hi. Ed

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Speaker 5: helms I ran into Ed recently. We were in Where

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Speaker 5: were we? Oh, we were in Austin, right south by Southwest.

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Speaker 5: I had I had podcast towards.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 5: We weread I had Pasta Pasta Awards, the Pasta Awards.

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Speaker 5: We were talking about all of your credits, but you

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Speaker 5: missed that conversation. We were talking about where all people

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Speaker 5: would know you from places like The Hangover, the Office,

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Speaker 5: the Vacation Reboot movie, the Daily Show.

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Speaker 1: Were you a correspondent on the day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was a correspondent from two thousand and two

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Speaker 4: to two thousand and six.

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Speaker 1: I forgot about that one. I forgot that you did that.

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Speaker 4: I mean it was I made a huge impact. It was.

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Speaker 4: Actually, it was a pretty incredible time because it was

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Speaker 4: the w years and there was a chunk of time

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Speaker 4: there where it was just Colbert, Me, Corderie and Sam

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Speaker 4: b were the four correspondents and it was a hell

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Speaker 4: of a lot of fun and an unbelievable amount of work,

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Speaker 4: Like it almost broke me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Do you ever think that you wish you

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Speaker 5: were doing that during this kind of administration?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: Never, I don't either. It's too much garbage to talk

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Speaker 4: It's too overwhelming. John goes on once a week now

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Speaker 4: and absolutely crushes it, and I love it, and the

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Speaker 4: other the other correspondents now also host the show for

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Speaker 4: the rest of the week, which I think is a

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Speaker 4: They're killing it. It's so good. I'm going to leave

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Speaker 5: And I don't want to sound sexist right now, but

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Speaker 5: I just want to say, since women are allowed to

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Speaker 5: had your way with us.

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Speaker 1: I just want to say that you've had some sort

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Speaker 5: And I don't want to sound condescending or patronizing it

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Speaker 1: In such a way.

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Speaker 5: And I think I told you this that the iHeart

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Speaker 5: Podcast Awards. But you really look very handsome, your hair,

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Speaker 5: You've taken off the glasses.

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Speaker 1: I'm very debonair almost. I want to say, all right.

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Speaker 4: All right, yeah, well I finally went through puberty.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what I was. Yeah, that's what I

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Speaker 5: I was like, have you gone through it feels like

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Speaker 4: Can I tell you something. I just turned fifty, First

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Speaker 4: of all, I really appreciate you saying that. And I

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Speaker 4: just turned fifty. Well I'm a little over a year ago, so.

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Speaker 1: I'm fifty one day fifty one.

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Speaker 4: But uh, I'm still in my head. I just turned fifty,

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Speaker 4: and I I just kind of I'm like healthier than

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Speaker 4: I'm more active. I also have two little kids that

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Speaker 1: Have you dot maternity test for the children?

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Speaker 4: No, why should I just to make sure.

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Speaker 5: You're their father. I mean, yeah, why wouldn't you should?

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Speaker 4: Why wouldn't I? Yeah, because I'm pretty sure I'm their dad.

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Speaker 4: Wait, what are you doing? You're just lobbing doubt into

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Speaker 1: I just want you to be you know, have all

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Speaker 4: Do arbitrarily ruthless thing to just like throw into a conversation,

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Speaker 1: I like that, right, I like that combo platter.

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Speaker 5: You would also know ed Helms from his podcast because

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Speaker 5: it's called Snaphu, just like his new book that's out.

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Speaker 1: It's called Snaphoo, which.

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Speaker 5: Is a great book to have around the house, and

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Speaker 5: I would eat Catherine even suggested to have in your bathroom.

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Speaker 2: It's a perfect bathroom.

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Speaker 1: It's a perfect hardrom book.

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Speaker 4: I'm not judging. Read it anywhere you want, and it's

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Speaker 4: because it's so episodic. Right, it's Snapfoo, the Definitive Guide

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Speaker 4: to History's Greatest screw ups, and each chapter is a

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Speaker 4: different historical screw up. So yeah, it's perfect. If you

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Speaker 4: Might even help get things moving. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, I mean it is it's a very relaxing book

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Speaker 1: Not all of them, but I mean, who could count

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Speaker 5: I mean, can you imagine what's going to happen after

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Speaker 1: I of course was drawn to the LSD story immediately.

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Speaker 5: Let me just read the title of that chapter or

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Speaker 5: the caption for that chapter. In the nineteen fifties, a

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Speaker 2: Of science, your tax dollars at work.

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Speaker 4: Your tax dollars. And at the end of it, when

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Speaker 4: Well, there was a big LSD was so new, and

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Speaker 4: Literally torturous. So wait, I am so curious about this.

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Speaker 4: I've never done like a serious I've never had like

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Speaker 5: I mean, microdosing is kind of like a whole New

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Speaker 5: Their little paper tablets like they've always but I get

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well you did. I mean, you've been entertaining

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Speaker 4: Is it a sweet memory?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

440
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Speaker 5: I think it is it is a sweet, sweet memory.

441
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Speaker 5: I've never had anyone say that to me.

442
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Speaker 4: You're right that in the in just yeah, that's just

443
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Speaker 4: what I was saying before, Like he's such a big hearted,

444
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 4: sweet person that he can make that joke and actually

445
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 4: make you laugh, because anyone else who said that to somebody,

446
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Speaker 4: it almost sounds like I'm definitely going to do that.

447
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Speaker 1: On that note, we're going to take a break with

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Speaker 1: ed Helm, so we'll be right back.

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Speaker 3: If you'd like advice from Chelsea, right into us at

450
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Speaker 3: Dear Chelsea podcast at gmail dot com. We'd love to

451
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,919
Speaker 3: hear your questions for any juicy story you'd like advice on,

452
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 3: but this week we're specifically looking for questions about family issues.

453
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Speaker 2: If you have an issue with a family member, or

454
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Speaker 2: you need.

455
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 3: Advice about a specific relationship issue, please write in at

456
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 3: Dear Chelsea podcast at gmail dot com.

457
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Speaker 1: And we're back with ed Helm. So you have to

458
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Speaker 1: pick up this book.

459
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Speaker 5: It's called Snaffoo, The Definitive Guide to History's Greatest screw Ups,

460
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 5: and it's all the greatest grew ups historically in this

461
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Speaker 5: country and others. Actually lots of it takes place on

462
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Speaker 5: other lands. But it's a great book to have around,

463
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 5: especially to pick up and put down when you want

464
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Speaker 5: to get a little piece of information. And it's great.

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Speaker 5: They're great talking points for conversation starters. I know a

466
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Speaker 5: lot of people conversation starters.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it'll make you like a killer at dinner parties.

468
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 4: You've just got you've got a whole arsenal of great stories.

469
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Speaker 5: And it's a great gift, by the way, it's a

470
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Speaker 5: great gift to give to somebody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially a great guy gift I feel like.

472
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Speaker 3: And I also like that you say in the beginning,

473
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Speaker 3: You're like, you know what we've been through, like shit

474
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Speaker 3: before and like problems and like stupid mistakes before, Like

475
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Speaker 3: hopefully we'll survive everything that's going on now as well.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's a great reminder of that everybody thought that

477
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Speaker 5: it was the end of the world many many times

478
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Speaker 5: in our history, especially in the fifties, where some people

479
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Speaker 5: look back at as one of the best times in America.

480
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Speaker 5: People were scared to death of dying from a nuclear

481
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Speaker 5: bomb during that time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ed depicts in his book.

484
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's always like the history of human folly is

485
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Speaker 4: so overwhelming when you look back on it and Weirdly,

486
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Speaker 4: I find that calming because we just keep moving. Yeah,

487
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Speaker 4: this is a scary time that we're in right now.

488
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Speaker 4: It just it doesn't matter what your political disposition is.

489
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Speaker 4: Like it feels volatile, it feels like the division is crazy,

490
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 4: like unusual, but it isn't that unusual. We have been

491
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Speaker 4: in very similar situations in the past. I'm not saying

492
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Speaker 4: don't be afraid or don't be like, don't work to

493
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Speaker 4: make the changes you want to see in the world.

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Speaker 4: But I am saying I'm just there's reassurance in this,

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Speaker 4: in looking back and seeing like, oh, people did sort

496
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Speaker 4: of fight through something or get through something and we

497
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Speaker 4: got to a better place.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Well, are we ready for some advice?

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's going to give advice and you're gonna be

501
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Speaker 1: great at this.

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00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you actually you're gonna be We.

503
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Speaker 5: Have live callers, we've written callers, people calling in they

504
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Speaker 5: need help, and here you are at helms.

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Speaker 1: Here you are to help.

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Speaker 4: All right, I'm here for it.

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Speaker 3: Well, our first question has to do with having a

508
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Speaker 3: long history with someone, since we're talking a lot about

509
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Speaker 3: history today. The subject is office friendship gone awry, and

510
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Speaker 3: this one's just an email. She's not calling in Okay,

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Speaker 3: Dear Chelsea. I work with a friend who have known

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Speaker 3: for twelve years. She referred me to the job we

513
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Speaker 3: work at. She trained me and everything. However, she's a

514
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 3: gatekeeper and always wants to be the hero at work.

515
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Speaker 3: She's also loud and obnoxious when she talks about how

516
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 3: we used to be ratchet and all, which was so

517
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 3: long ago.

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Speaker 2: She's kind of annoying in that sense.

519
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 3: I find myself at times asking her to keep it

520
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Speaker 3: down because we're at work. Also, nobody wants to hear that,

521
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 3: and frankly, it's embarrassing. I'm now avoiding her outside of

522
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 3: work too. I don't know how to handle her. She

523
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 3: overshares and I don't want to be a part of it.

524
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Speaker 3: She also seems jealous when I hang with other managers

525
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Speaker 3: and coworkers. I'm not kissing ass, but I'm a social person.

526
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Speaker 3: How do I manage the situation? Since I have to

527
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Speaker 3: see her every day, I'm becoming resentful?

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Speaker 2: Ugh, love you and take care, Sammy.

529
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Speaker 5: Did she say at the beginning that this person was

530
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Speaker 5: her superior at work?

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Speaker 2: No, but she got her the job?

532
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Speaker 1: Oh she the woman got hurt the job?

533
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Speaker 2: Or she yeah, the other the woman got her the job.

534
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Speaker 1: Oh, I see, I see. So that's also but.

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Speaker 4: We don't know if they're we don't know if what

536
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Speaker 4: their status is.

537
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't.

538
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 2: We're not sure about that.

539
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Speaker 1: But all right, I think that's it easy.

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Speaker 5: I think that you just that's a conversation and in

541
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Speaker 5: person conversation on one where you go to lunch, you

542
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 5: go to coffee, and you say, listen, I know we

543
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Speaker 5: had a lot of like wild times and a fun past,

544
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Speaker 5: but like I feel like I've grown up a lot,

545
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Speaker 5: and I feel like we've both grown up a lot.

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Speaker 5: You know, don't make it just about you being like

547
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 5: superior to her in that way, like you're mature and

548
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 5: she isn't be Like, we've both grown up a lot,

549
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 5: and like sometimes it's like I feel like it's a

550
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 5: little embarrassing when I hear you talk about our past

551
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 5: in front of our co workers. And I totally get it,

552
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 5: Like it's fun and those were the best times. But like,

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Speaker 5: I think we have to have some sort of evolution,

554
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Speaker 5: especially professionally in a setting where I want to be

555
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Speaker 5: taken seriously and I don't want to take the fun

556
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Speaker 5: out of it. But I also don't want to start

557
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 5: avoiding you, you know, don't.

558
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Speaker 1: Act like it's already happened.

559
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Speaker 5: Just say like I'm starting to feel like I do

560
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Speaker 5: want to kind of avoid you and take my own space,

561
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Speaker 5: and I don't want to feel that way about you

562
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Speaker 5: at all. I want to maintain this relationship but also

563
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Speaker 5: take it to the next level of like maturity and evolution.

564
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Speaker 5: Like we're all going to have to grow up at

565
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Speaker 5: some point, and you don't have to grow up and

566
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 5: make it sound boring, but grow up and make it

567
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Speaker 5: sound like, Okay, now we're going to do different stuff.

568
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Speaker 5: And we don't have to like live in the past,

569
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Speaker 5: because that's also a thing that people get stuck in.

570
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Speaker 1: It's like living.

571
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 5: They want to constantly live in like the best time

572
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Speaker 5: that they had, which is like that varsity high school attitude,

573
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 5: like when you peak in high school, you want to

574
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Speaker 5: live in high school for the.

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Speaker 4: Rest of your life. God damn, that's good, Chelsea. You're

576
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Speaker 4: good at this, And that's the real deal. That's the

577
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 4: that's like the that's the advice. That is good advice. Whoever,

578
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 4: the listener should definitely follow that advice. Now, I'm gonna

579
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 4: give you some bad advice. Great, I think that you

580
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 4: should fight the woman start slipping like massive doses of

581
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 4: LSD into their coffee. Perfect, And it's also just mk

582
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 4: ultra them and then also just subtly sabotage them at

583
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 4: work in all kinds of different ways, you know, just

584
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 4: like mess up their files. Like if they hand something in,

585
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 4: see if you can grab it and take it so

586
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 4: it's late, So it's late and they get in trouble.

587
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 4: Is that helpful?

588
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, perfect, I think that's going to be

589
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: very helpful.

590
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 4: No, I but truly, Chelsea, it's so fun hearing you

591
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 4: just like jump on that with the most constructive angle,

592
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 4: just like hey, jump in and talk to this person

593
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 4: and just everything that you wrote in that email, that's

594
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 4: pretty much what that's your script. Like you can say

595
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 4: that to this person and find the positive top spin

596
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 4: on it, find the language that gives it connectivity instead

597
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 4: of just like accusation and frustration. But get into it.

598
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 4: That's what I heard. That was like the main thing

599
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 4: was like just jump right into.

600
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 5: It, get into it, because I think avoidance is just

601
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 5: always the you know that is like nobody gets anywhere by.

602
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: Being an avoidant.

603
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 4: Where did you grow up, Chelsea?

604
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: In New Jersey?

605
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 4: There you go. See, I grew up in Atlanta, Georgia,

606
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 4: and my mom's from Tennessee, my dad's from Alabama, and

607
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 4: it's a lot of like we don't talk about that.

608
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a.

609
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 4: Lot of like discomfort with like avoidance is a is

610
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 4: like on like a policy in the South. Sometimes.

611
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: Did you grow up Southern Baptist?

612
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 5: No?

613
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 4: No, my parents were pretty progressive politically and religiously, but

614
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 4: we went to a Presbyterian church, which I liked, actually

615
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 4: liked a lot, and I know my parents valued a lot.

616
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 4: But they also after church, they would always be like,

617
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 4: this stuff is kind of made up, but we just

618
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 4: this is a good community institution and we like a

619
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 4: lot of the people. But you don't have to believe

620
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 4: the actual you know, they would sort of undermine the

621
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 4: religiosity of it, which.

622
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: Is a great attitude.

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Speaker 5: I read a quote one saying, like, you know, you're

624
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 5: not praying people who sit down and pray. It's not

625
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 5: about who you're praying to, it's the act of praying.

626
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 5: It creates a better surrounding for the whole world. Yes, right,

627
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,959
Speaker 5: like the fact that people are praying, you know, as

628
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 5: long as you're praying for like peace, and the world

629
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Speaker 5: and love and goodness. It doesn't matter what you're saying,

630
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 5: it's the act of It is an act in itself.

631
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:06,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the articulation of thoughts and ideas that have

632
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 4: power in you. And I kind of think of therapy

633
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 4: as the same way. It's like, weirdly, therapy can be

634
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 4: a sort of prayer because you're giving voice and externalizing

635
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 4: these things that have sort of may have chewed you

636
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 4: up inside for a long time or felt insurmountable, but

637
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 4: as soon as they're outside of your body, literally just

638
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 4: the words take form and leave your mouth and then

639
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 4: it's outside of you in a way that feels manageable

640
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 4: or feels like you're approaching manageable of these like difficult things.

641
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, therapy is like helping you be a better person

642
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 5: in the world. Right, So that's that's a gift to

643
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 5: everybody who has to come into contact with you by

644
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 5: not internalizing all of those thoughts or things that you're

645
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 5: going through. Also, meditation is a form of prayer, you know,

646
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 5: if you look at it that way, it's a form

647
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 5: of like, Okay, I'm trying you know, you're setting an intention,

648
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 5: you're trying to calm your thoughts and actually be a

649
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 5: more well balanced person. So that's a form of prior too,

650
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 5: So all of that stuff is good as a tool

651
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 5: to be a better person.

652
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Speaker 1: In the world.

653
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Speaker 3: Well, our next question comes from Amanda, and before we

654
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 3: let Amanda in, I thought this would be a perfect

655
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 3: question for you, Ed, since you played a character who

656
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 3: was broken up with while on a yacht, so Amanda

657
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 3: is really going through it. Subject line is heartbreak on

658
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Speaker 3: a yacht Dear Chelsea. A month ago, me and my

659
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 3: partner of four years split up. Three weeks prior he

660
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 3: had ended it and I was devastated.

661
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: He resigned. We work on a yacht together and I

662
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: packed my bags.

663
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 3: I didn't want to give him an opportunity to panic

664
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Speaker 3: and change his mind, but sure enough he asked me

665
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 3: to stay and I did. Three weeks later, he hooks

666
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 3: up with our friend and coworker. The relationship ended and

667
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 3: he told me he would resign. Typically on boats, as

668
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 3: we all live and work together, when a couple splits up,

669
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 3: there's an honor code that the one who ends it

670
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 3: is the one to leave. I took six weeks unpaid

671
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 3: leave so I could fly home and be with my

672
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 3: support system and give him time to finish out his

673
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 3: contract and not risk losing any pay. When I was leaving,

674
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 3: he told me he was going to do everything he

675
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 3: could to find a way forward for us. A month

676
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 3: after the breakup, he calls to say this separation is

677
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 3: the right thing and he won't be resigning. Neither he

678
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: nor the person he hooked up with resigned. The last

679
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 3: thing I want to do is give up my job.

680
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 3: I love what I do. I just got a new contract,

681
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 3: but the thought of being trapped on a boat together

682
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: and having to see him every day feels daunting. And

683
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 3: there is an update that happened just yesterday. She got

684
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 3: a call that her contract was canceled and theirs was not.

685
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: So Amanda's really going through it.

686
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm sorry, Hi Amanda, Hi, Hi Hidy miss ed

687
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 5: Helm's our special guest today.

688
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, hello, lovely to meet you.

689
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 4: Likewise, I'm so sorry for all this. Yah, just this

690
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 4: hard ship. Get it. I'm gonna throw a pun in there,

691
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 4: right right out of.

692
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: Zach Alfanakus territory.

693
00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, mad, this does sound tough. So are you with

694
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 4: your support system now?

695
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 6: Yeah?

696
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 7: I've been with my family and my friends, so I'm

697
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 7: very fortunate to have them. But yes, as Catherine said,

698
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 7: as of yesterday, I've been let go as a result.

699
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 7: So I guess now it's a whole different ballgame of

700
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 7: how to proceed.

701
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 4: So, did you lose this lose this contract because of

702
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 4: the sort of messiness of the situation?

703
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 7: Yes, I was told it was due to the extenuating circumstances.

704
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: So is he it has a senior position, a more

705
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: senior position than you do.

706
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 7: Yes, he is a high ranking person, so yeah, he,

707
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 7: I guess, got priority.

708
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 5: Okay, and does a woman work on the yacht too?

709
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 5: I was confused by who resigned and who resigned?

710
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 7: Okay, no one's resigned, but yes, the person he hooked

711
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 7: up with, they both are still Okay.

712
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: Well that's in.

713
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 5: You can't go back to that situation, so it's time

714
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 5: to find another position, right on a different yacht.

715
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, how hard is that?

716
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 7: I have no doubt that I'll be able to find

717
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 7: another job. I'm not concerned about that. I'm very capable. Yeah,

718
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 7: so I guess with Catherine. Initially, I was just I guess,

719
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 7: hoping to find a way to navigate through this. But

720
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 7: even now people are telling me to try to peel

721
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 7: the termination. So yeah, I'm just a bit of a

722
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 7: loss right now.

723
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 5: I honestly really wouldn't pursue that. What a waste of

724
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 5: your time and energy?

725
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: Why why you're ya?

726
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 4: It seems like winning that appeal puts you in a

727
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 4: worse position right where you're not where you're on the

728
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 4: boat with this sort of toxic.

729
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 6: Yeah.

730
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 4: I agree, And there's something there is something about like

731
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 4: having distance from having physical distance from the pain the

732
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 4: source of the of this pain can be incredibly healing.

733
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 4: Just have just not like you said, like you intuitively

734
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 4: understood kind of being in that presence seeing him every

735
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 4: day so forth, that would just kind of keep you

736
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 4: in this laundry cycle of frustration, anger, hurt, all of it.

737
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 4: So embrace the distance.

738
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: Are you okay with doing that?

739
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 7: Like?

740
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: Are you are you ready to do that?

741
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 5: Like, I mean, I think you need to heal and

742
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 5: move on and go and find yourself in a completely

743
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 5: new environment. I'm so happy to hear that you know

744
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 5: that you're capable enough to get another job.

745
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I know this is kind of it's a.

746
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 5: Small community of people who work on boats and meaning

747
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 5: it can seem like a large one, but really it

748
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 5: isn't it's a smaller community. So like, if you're good

749
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 5: at your job, you're going to get another job on

750
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 5: a yacht.

751
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, No, I have no doubts about that. I guess

752
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 7: it's just been the whole process has been so devastating,

753
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 7: just at every turn. And then yeah, yesterday was like

754
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 7: I didn't even I didn't believe that it could get

755
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 7: to this point where I would be fired. And I understand,

756
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 7: I'm like big picture eyes, like you guys are saying

757
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 7: this is the best thing to get away from it

758
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 7: and all that. I guess I'm just still reeling from totally,

759
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 7: which is totally understandable.

760
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 5: And give yourself grace, give yourself time, Like you're not

761
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 5: supposed to get over these things in a week or

762
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 5: two weeks or even a month or two months.

763
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: This is a big situation. You were with him for

764
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: four years.

765
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 5: You have every right to be upset, to feel your grief,

766
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 5: to go through all of the emotions and all the

767
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 5: stages of emotions that don't come in the order that

768
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 5: people tell you that they're going to come in and

769
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 5: just when you think you're out of the woods, it

770
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 5: hits you again. But be honest about your feelings, which

771
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 5: you are doing. You're called in here, You're having an

772
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 5: honest conversation with people you don't know about how you're

773
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 5: feeling and how hurtful this is and how shocking it is.

774
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 5: Have you heard about the new Mail Robbins book Let

775
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 5: Them the Let Them theory?

776
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: Yes?

777
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 7: I have. I actually listened to the episode with you

778
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 7: and Herry yesterday on a run. I was like, I

779
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 7: need something.

780
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, read that book, because you have to let him,

781
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 5: let her, let them, let them do their thing, and

782
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 5: be grateful that you're not in the mix to have

783
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 5: to witness any of that.

784
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 4: Are you concerned at all about yours sort of standing

785
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 4: in this community?

786
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 7: Well, that's the other thing, is I feel like because

787
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 7: it's such a small industry and everyone knows somebody on

788
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 7: a boat, you know, when you're applying for something, everyone

789
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 7: knows whoever's applying. It's a very small community. So that's

790
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 7: the the reason why I've been trying to be as

791
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 7: peaceful as possible through this whole process, because I'm like,

792
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 7: I don't want it to reflect poorly on me. Sure,

793
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 7: So that's another thing with appealing this. I'm just like,

794
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 7: I feel like it's I hope my integrity would speak

795
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 7: for itself moving forward.

796
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 3: And people talk like they'll get I think the real

797
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 3: story of like that you are the one who got

798
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 3: the short end of the stick on this.

799
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 2: I had a spiritual.

800
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: Teacher once tell me you know God or the universe

801
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: or your your you know better angels. When something's not

802
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 3: right for you, they'll like tap you on the shoulder

803
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 3: and try to tell you, and if you don't listen,

804
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 3: they'll like tap you harder, and then if you still

805
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 3: don't listen, you get like the two by.

806
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: Four across the head and like this ending of.

807
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 3: The kind feels like this is the two by four

808
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: of just like this is not for you.

809
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 2: There's something way better for you.

810
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

811
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 7: I believe that too.

812
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's really too picture and listen and just

813
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 5: and appreciate where you are in this moment and all

814
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 5: of that.

815
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: Don't try to fast forward. You're healing, go through it.

816
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 5: The only way to get through to something is to

817
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 5: really really feel it and be honest about your emotions.

818
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

819
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 5: Lean on the people that love and care about you.

820
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 5: Unfortunately this relationship is over, but you're going to move

821
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 5: forward in a better and a stronger sense of self

822
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 5: that's always what happens when we get our hearts broken,

823
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 5: we always come out stronger. And that's you know, that's

824
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 5: not debatable. So like, that's what's going to happen with you.

825
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 5: You're capable, you're confident, you're strong. I'm so happy you

826
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 5: have a support system that you were able to fly

827
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 5: home to.

828
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 1: And I'm so glad.

829
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,479
Speaker 5: You do need a letter of recommendation from these people,

830
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 5: so you do need to contact him back.

831
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's a given, but you do.

832
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 5: At the very minimum, they have to guarantee you for

833
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 5: I mean, they don't give you any reason to fire you,

834
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 5: so they have to give you a letter of recommendation

835
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 5: when you go out and look for a new job.

836
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 5: And I do know a few people who do own yachts,

837
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 5: and I'd be happy to pass on your resume to them.

838
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 7: That's incredibly I.

839
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 1: Know that comes as a huge surprise to all of ours.

840
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 4: She's Chelsea's so right here. It's so easy to kind

841
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 4: of like intellectually understand why getting fired in this situation

842
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 4: might be a positive thing, and why like the math

843
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 4: might be might look good on paper. Oh we're gonna

844
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 4: have distance now. But Chelsea's so right, the the emotions,

845
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 4: all the feelings, all of the pain and the trajectory

846
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 4: of your grief is something to just submit to. Even

847
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 4: when it's on paper, it feels like, oh, I'm these

848
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 4: I'm making the right steps. It just doesn't always feel

849
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 4: that way. And I and and so embrace that and yeah,

850
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 4: move through it feeling.

851
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 7: Thank you so much.

852
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, you're going to be just fine. You're

853
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 5: going to be better than fine.

854
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you are going to be better than fine. Not

855
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: right now, but very very soon.

856
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 7: Yeah, Chelsea, I obviously read your book as soon as

857
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 7: I came out Life Will Be the Death Knees what

858
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 7: got me to therapy in twenty nineteen, and so I

859
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 7: do think my ability to handle this has been because

860
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 7: of all that work in the last few years. And

861
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 7: I've even been rereading little bits of your book talking

862
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 7: about moving through heartache, and it's been very helpful. Amongst

863
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 7: everything else, it's been very helpful. And I can't express

864
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 7: enough how much.

865
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so glad. I'm so glad. I'm glad. We'll

866
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: take care of yourself.

867
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 3: And send me your resume, will Yeah, it passed along

868
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 3: the change for sure.

869
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 2: That's incredibly kind.

870
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: Thank you.

871
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 2: All so much. This is very just so lovely. Thank

872
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 2: you so much, Thanks Amanda, and thanks for joining us.

873
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 7: Thank you, thank you so much.

874
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 2: Bye, and you're really good at this too.

875
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: I know that was very compassionate. Yeah.

876
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 5: I love how stable she is and so normal, you know,

877
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 5: like I love how our listeners are normal and they're

878
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 5: like they can handle these situations. Like she's going to

879
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 5: be just fine. She should be counseling other people going

880
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 5: through breakups.

881
00:39:58,920 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 4: Well.

882
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 3: Our next color is Jonathan. Dear Chelsea, I need your

883
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 3: help getting unstuck. I'm in a job I have a

884
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: deep bond with working as a nanny to a child

885
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 3: with special needs, one that has given me financial stability

886
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 3: and a strong sense of purpose. But as much as

887
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 3: I love it, I know it's time to move on

888
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 3: to fully commit to my acting career.

889
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 2: The problem I feel.

890
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 3: Paralyzed by guilt over leaving something that has meant the

891
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 3: world to me. I worry about losing a part of

892
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 3: my identity and the people who've become my family. On

893
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 3: top of that, there's a financial risk. I have bills

894
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 3: to pay, and while I want to take the leap,

895
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 3: I also don't want to put myself in a situation

896
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 3: where I'm struggling just to get by.

897
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 2: That said, I've been putting in the work.

898
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 3: I've taken real steps to get my mental and physical

899
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 3: health together, and I've been submitting for everything I can

900
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 3: to open new doors.

901
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: I've worked hard to build a creative life.

902
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 3: I perform on stage, I dance, I even made a

903
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 3: name for myself.

904
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 2: In the drag world.

905
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 3: But I know I need to take bigger risks if

906
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 3: I want acting to be my main focus. I moved

907
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 3: to la from Iowa with two hundred and fifty bucks

908
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 3: to my name, and for the last seven years, I've

909
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: made it work as a gay man from a small town,

910
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 3: and I take pride that everything I've built has been entirely.

911
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 2: On my own.

912
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 3: I keep telling myself to be patient and trust the process,

913
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 3: but after turning thirty this past year, I feel like

914
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 3: I'm starting to lose my spark. I don't want to

915
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 3: give up, but I also don't want to wake up

916
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 3: one day and realize.

917
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 2: I played it too safe.

918
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 3: How do I take this leap without losing myself or

919
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 3: my rent money in the process?

920
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 5: Best Jonathan, Hi, Jonathan, Hello, how are we doing good?

921
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 5: We have another actor here on the show today. Ed

922
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 5: Helms is our special guest.

923
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 4: Oh wow, Hi Jonathan. Hello, Gosh. I know you're in

924
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 4: a difficult spot what feels like a crossroads, but you

925
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 4: have already made so many tough decisions and taken so

926
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 4: many risks. You have so much to be proud of already.

927
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 6: Thank you. I appreciate that. And you know, I think

928
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 6: that just these last couple of years, I feel like

929
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 6: I've the momentum, like something has kind of happened where

930
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 6: I just feel like I'm a little bit of a

931
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 6: functional freeze right now. And yeah, I'm just kind of

932
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 6: thinking about you know. I guess I was wanting to

933
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 6: kind of ask when you guys were starting out, what

934
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 6: kind of helped you get through to like take those

935
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 6: kind of risky steps towards making your passion like your

936
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 6: main source, you know. And I know that it's a process,

937
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 6: but I also, like I said, I have a deep

938
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 6: bond with this family and I don't necessarily want to

939
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 6: give that up either.

940
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 3: You know, so outside of acting, you're not feeling like

941
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 3: there's a need to leave the job.

942
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: It's more like the conflict between the two.

943
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, is it an every day, five day week job.

944
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 4: It is Yes, I does this family that they're they're

945
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 4: aware of your acting ambitions or no?

946
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 6: No, Yes, they definitely are, Yeah, for sure.

947
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 4: And they and this this is a very positive and

948
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 4: nurturing relationship with this family. I assume they adore you

949
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 4: and appreciate it.

950
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 6: Yes, Yes, they feel like family for sure.

951
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 4: Which is amazing and an attribute to you. You and

952
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 4: I would also encourage you to explore the possibility dare

953
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 4: I say likelihood that this family wants you to thrive

954
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 4: and this family wants what's best for you as well.

955
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 4: Of course they depend on you in some very critical ways,

956
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 4: but it sounds like they also would not only be understanding,

957
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 4: but supportive. Is that a leap?

958
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 6: You know? I think that I think sometimes I have

959
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 6: to kind of get real with myself and realize that, like,

960
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 6: you know, I'm also here for a reason. And I

961
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 6: think that's kind of been the issue that I've been

962
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 6: working with. As you know, I've I've got a couple

963
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 6: gigs here and there, and those have been fine, But

964
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 6: I guess I really kind of it's kind of stopped

965
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 6: me from like pursuing something that would be like a

966
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 6: large block of time away from them, because I don't

967
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 6: know if you know that would be the case, if

968
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 6: you know, they'd be able to kind of keep me around,

969
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 6: And I think more so, I'm just like okay, like

970
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 6: I I know I need to take the next step,

971
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 6: and I've been really lucky with the opportunities that I've had,

972
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 6: but I just feel like I've been kind of in

973
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 6: this in between now for these last couple of years,

974
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 6: and I just it's.

975
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 5: Because you are in between, yeah, you know what I mean,

976
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 5: Like I understand, and it would be great if you

977
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 5: could work around your schedule and they could be accommodating

978
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 5: to you, but then you're still in between. Like when

979
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 5: you want to go for something, especially in this business,

980
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 5: you have to go like one hundred and fifty five

981
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 5: percent in that direction. You can't have like other side

982
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 5: gigs going on. You know, if you really want to

983
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 5: achieve this and this is your dream, you kind of

984
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 5: have to go full throttle. It's like a fucking bowling

985
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 5: ball down a hallway, like nothing is going to get

986
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 5: in your way until you get to your goal, and

987
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 5: then that goal leads to the next thing, and that

988
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 5: job leads to the next job. So you do kind

989
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 5: of have to throw everything you have at what you

990
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 5: want in order to obtain that and attain it. And

991
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 5: so I get that part, and I think, I think

992
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 5: this stuff. It would be great if they could be

993
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 5: malleable and work around you. I don't know how realistic

994
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 5: that is. Is it realistic for them to like work

995
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 5: with your schedule and give you the opportunities you need

996
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 5: to go and seek auditions? Like how does that work

997
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 5: with a child with special needs? You can't just bring

998
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 5: a lot.

999
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 6: So that's kind of the difficult thing. They are amazing

1000
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 6: co parents, but they both have very high level jobs

1001
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 6: that require a lot of time away, you know, and

1002
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 6: I think they rely on me a lot more than

1003
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 6: you know. Maybe is it healthy. But I'm kind of

1004
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 6: okay with that. And I think that i i because

1005
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 6: of like the connection that I've built. I just feel

1006
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 6: like I'm torn between what's right for me, like taking

1007
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 6: those steps to advocate for myself, you know, because I

1008
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 6: feel like I'm just kind of a third parent at

1009
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 6: this point.

1010
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 3: Well, I think what happens a lot with caregivers, whether

1011
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 3: that's hired caregiver, family caregiver, is like it feels like

1012
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 3: it's all on one person. It's on the main caregiver.

1013
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 3: Which right now is you so because the parents can't

1014
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 3: be someone to like take a day off and take

1015
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 3: care of the child when when you're unavailable so you

1016
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 3: have to go to an audition or you know, if

1017
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 3: you do get a longer term gig, like in a

1018
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 3: play or something like that, that you can't be there

1019
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 3: every day, it maybe worth sitting down with them and

1020
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 3: proposing another solution, which is like, I want to be

1021
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 3: the main person, but like, let's bring in a specific

1022
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: other person who can be kind of on call, who

1023
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 3: we can call on on those days when like I

1024
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 3: know I need to go drive across town to an

1025
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 3: audition or I need to do something else. And it

1026
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 3: just feels like if we if we feel that sort

1027
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 3: of missing system, then you have a little bit more

1028
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 3: freedom to do what.

1029
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 6: You need to do right And you know, it's funny,

1030
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 6: I actually just kind of brought that up to them.

1031
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 6: So I feel like I'm taking steps in the right direction,

1032
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 6: you know, but I just want to feel unstuck. Yeah,

1033
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 6: I think that That's kind of where I'm at right now,

1034
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 6: is just feeling like, ah, like you know, I'm I'm

1035
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 6: really proud of how far I've come, and I feel

1036
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 6: like I can recognize that, but I also want to

1037
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 6: push myself in the other direction, you know, and I

1038
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 6: want to keep the momentum going, and I just feel

1039
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 6: like I've lost that, and so I think I just

1040
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 6: I don't know, I just feel stuck right now.

1041
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 5: And I think a great solution would also be for

1042
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 5: you to be the person in charge of training the

1043
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 5: new person and bringing them in so that will free

1044
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 5: up so, you know, like once you get them situated

1045
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 5: and understanding of like all of the dynamics and all

1046
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 5: of the things that need to happen each day and

1047
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 5: the relationship, Like, once you get that situated, then you'll

1048
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 5: have time to like kind of float in and float

1049
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 5: out of the job when needed. And how were they

1050
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 5: responsive to you when you brought this up to them?

1051
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, they were, they were responsive, but I think they

1052
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 6: really struggled. I don't think they've ever had anyone as

1053
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 6: long as they've had me and the bond that I

1054
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 6: have with their child, and I'm nervous that it's going

1055
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 6: to be kind of hard to find somebody that can

1056
00:47:58,560 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 6: match that.

1057
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: It will be.

1058
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 4: But also you can be the as Chelsea said, like

1059
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 4: be the constructive part of this transition. You know, lay

1060
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 4: the groundwork for the transition. Be the person who's really

1061
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 4: like leading the search for this new person, have a

1062
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 4: heavy overlap with them in a training sort of almost

1063
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 4: like an apprentice process perhaps. And then and then the

1064
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 4: other thing to keep in mind is that this relationship

1065
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 4: with this family and this child that clearly means so

1066
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 4: much to you and to them and the child, it

1067
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 4: doesn't go away with you thriving in another area. If

1068
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 4: you start to really you know, get more work in

1069
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:53,959
Speaker 4: the acting space and your career starts to blossom, they're

1070
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 4: still there and they still care about you. And it's

1071
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 4: not like a breakup. It's a it's just branches of

1072
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 4: a tree kind of maybe growing apart, but they're still

1073
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 4: attached to the trunk. And you've built so much with

1074
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 4: this family. It sounds like this, this is a very

1075
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 4: poignant moment, and I can sense your your struggle, But

1076
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 4: just remember that the struggle you're feeling is rooted in

1077
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 4: how much love there is in this family unit that

1078
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 4: you're a part of now. And I think you're you

1079
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 4: keep checking, you keep saying things that make it clear

1080
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 4: that this transition feels necessary, it feels important. And then

1081
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 4: the question starts to become. So what are the steps

1082
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 4: and what are the how do I manage it? And

1083
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 4: how do I do it in a way that's responsible

1084
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 4: and loving to these people I care so much about,

1085
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 4: and that might that's going to take some work, and

1086
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 4: it will be hard, and it'll be painful at times.

1087
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 4: They'll be the emotional pain of the separation eventually, whenever hot,

1088
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 4: whatever form it takes will be hard. But also the

1089
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 4: you thriving and and pursuing this thing that you literally

1090
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 4: came here to do, or at least taking that risk

1091
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 4: and taking that jump. I'm hearing that that feels very critical.

1092
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 6: It does. It does, and I think that I feel

1093
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 6: like through the pandemic, I just kind of lost my

1094
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 6: spark a little bit. I mean, like I said, I

1095
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 6: moved here with nothing and I just kind of made

1096
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Speaker 6: it work. And you know, I think I'm trying to

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Speaker 6: rediscover that that part of me right and understand that,

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Speaker 6: Like I've been really lucky to not really kind of

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Speaker 6: fall on my face, but I'm nervous, I think right

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Speaker 6: now about especially like with just the economy and everything

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Speaker 6: the world is right now to kind of take that leap.

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Speaker 6: But I feel and you know, my heart and my

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Speaker 6: body that it's it's ready to I'm ready to do that,

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Speaker 6: you know. Good right, good, awesome, Well, thank you guys

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Speaker 6: so much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, thanks for calling in, Jonathan. Good job, well done.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you can always maintain that relationship, you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean, always regardless of whether you're their point

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Speaker 5: person or his main caregiver or not, you can always

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Speaker 5: you know, create a long standing relationship with and maintain

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Speaker 5: a long standing relationship with that family.

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Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, Well, thank you so much, Chelsea. I really

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Speaker 6: appreciate it. Okay, Yeah, I just I really, I mean,

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Speaker 6: this podcast has done so much for me. Your episode

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Speaker 6: with Cody Rigsby about all the body issues really kind

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00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 6: of healed something in me. And I just appreciate the

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Speaker 6: work you guys are doing.

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Speaker 1: You're that love that, Jonathan.

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Speaker 6: Okay, thank you guys.

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Speaker 5: Have a great day and good luck with everything. Thank you, okay,

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Speaker 5: and we'll be right back to wrap up with Ed Helms.

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Speaker 5: Please tag me for the special because I get so

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Speaker 5: many tags about my books, but I'm not getting as

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Speaker 5: many about my special, and my special is the newest

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Speaker 5: thing out, so I want to make sure all my

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Speaker 5: Ardent fans are watching it. And tagging me and I'll

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Speaker 5: repost you. And yes, it's called the Feeling. And we're

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Speaker 5: back with Ed Helms, whose newest project is called.

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Speaker 1: Is a book. He has a podcast by the same name.

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Speaker 5: It's called Snapfoo The Definitive Guide to History's Greatest screw Ups.

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Speaker 5: It's a great gift for all of you readers out there.

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00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 5: It's a great book to put by your pool, put

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Speaker 5: by your toilet, put on your coffee.

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Speaker 4: Table, anything liquid related.

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Speaker 5: Any yes, anytime you're around liquid, we want you to

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Speaker 5: pick up the book and read a couple of chapters.

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Speaker 5: It's fascinating and entertaining, just like Ed Helms himself. Ed,

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Speaker 5: you have been an incredible guest today. You are very

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Speaker 5: helpful to all of our callers and I am so grateful.

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Speaker 4: Well, this has been a blast. This is Yes, it's

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Speaker 4: it's really amazing to hear these people call in and

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Speaker 4: just talk about how much you have affected them. Chelsea, Oh,

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Speaker 4: I know it's you. You have some superpowers for sure.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Ed.

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00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 5: Thank you with such a pleasure to see you twice

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00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 5: in like three weeks.

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Speaker 1: I love this.

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00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 4: I know me too. Let's do it you.

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Speaker 1: I'll see you by the next toilet or swimming pool.

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Speaker 1: That'll be you bump into each other.

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Speaker 4: Bye, all right, thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: Okay, take care bye bye bye.

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Speaker 5: Do do do do do drum roll, Catherine, please and

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00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 5: abroad broad is my European tour. So I'm coming to

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Speaker 5: obviously find.

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Speaker 1: A husband abroad.

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Speaker 5: I need to get the health out of this fucking country.

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00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 5: And it's not as easy as you think. So I'm

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Speaker 5: coming to Rekuvik. I'm coming to Dublin. I'm coming to

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Speaker 5: the UK. I'm coming to Brussels, Paris, Belfast.

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Speaker 1: In May and June.

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Speaker 5: I'm coming to Oslo, Stockholm, to Copenhagen, Manchester, London, Glasgow,

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Speaker 5: New Zurich, Vienna. I've never ever been to Vienna, Berlin, Barcelona,

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Speaker 5: and Lisbon. I'm coming abroad is abroad that.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like fun.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go see you abroad. I know I

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Speaker 1: want to go.

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Speaker 5: See me abroad and there all be there, all be excellent.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 5: My remaining dates for Vegas, there are remaining dates for

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Speaker 5: this year. Summertime is coming and I will be in

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Speaker 5: Vegas at the Cosmo doing my residency on July fifth.

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Speaker 5: We will be the next date that I'm there, July fifth,

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Speaker 5: August thirtieth.

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Speaker 1: And then November one and twenty ninth.

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Speaker 5: November one and November twenty ninth, I will be in

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Speaker 5: Las Vegas at the Cosmo performing Inside Myself at the Chelsea.

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Speaker 1: It's called Chelsea at the Chelsea for a reason. Okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you.

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Speaker 2: Do you want advice from Chelsea?

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Speaker 3: Right into Dear Chelsea Podcast at gmail dot com. Find

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Speaker 3: at Dear Chelsea Pod.

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