1 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Golden Hour. Thanks to everyone for joining 2 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: us today. We're actually recording this episode on April first, 3 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: so happy April Fool's Day. There's two fools during this podcast. Right, 4 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: speak for. 5 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: Yourself, girlfriend, speak for yourself. 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: No fools today, no jokes, no games. But I am 7 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: actually in Connecticut. I'm in rural Connecticut at a boys 8 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: boarding school, visiting friends. A friend of mine had surgery 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: and I'm here to help her. The one thing I'm 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: not doing is cooking. Susan, you don't have to ask. 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: You're a good friend, Kathy. You're ordering for her. 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: I'm ordering for her. Actually, her husband's doing the cooking. 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: But can I just tell you a boys boarding school. 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: They're nine through twelfth graders, and they're like in their 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: ties and their shirts and their blazers. It's just all 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: cleaned up looking hands. I'm so proud. If I had 17 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: a young daughter, trust me, she'd be here. 18 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: Me With the other hand, I am down in Virginia 19 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: on Lake Holiday Cross Junction, Virginia with my granddaughter's celebration 20 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: for her fifth birthday. And my other five year old 21 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 2: granddaughter did the road trip with me, so we were 22 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: hollering at trucks all the way so I'd be on 23 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: time for this. 24 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 3: It was really such an ordeal. Yes, well you know. 25 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: We're righty here and we're ready. 26 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: So, Kathy, we were off for an entire week, but 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: you had made a special appearance on Bachelor Happy Hour 28 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: with Charity. 29 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: I did, and first of all, I love her. She's 30 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: just incredible and it was, you know, so much fun 31 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: to catch up with her. I did. I had a 32 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: great conversation, lots of great conversations with her on Bachelor 33 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: Happy Hour, mostly about everything happening with Taylor, Frankie Paul 34 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: if you want to listen to it, it's out there now. 35 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: We also met some of her great cast. Those guys 36 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: are incredible and I'm actually curious. I don't know if 37 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: you listen to the podcast, yeah, because I know you've 38 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: been busy, But how are you feeling? What do you 39 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: think about everything that's going on? 40 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 2: Honestly, I was in shock, first of all when they 41 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: paused the show and our job right away, because that's 42 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 2: what we talk about. That is our life. Bachelor is 43 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 2: our life. And I thought for a moment, oh my goodness, 44 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: what's happening now? 45 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: Like, what are we going to talk about. 46 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 2: I know I could talk about a ton of things, however, 47 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: but I was upset and concerned for her, her children, 48 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: her family. I mean, my empathy is, you know, Kathy 49 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: works over time, and I know the girl has had 50 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 2: some issues. But I did a lot of praying, I 51 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: really did, to just hope that she gets through this 52 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: safely and her children stay healthy. Yeah yeah, but I 53 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 2: mean I was stup feeling. To be honest, I don't 54 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: think there's anyone out there. I mean, the Internet can 55 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: be cruel place where people sit behind their computer and 56 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: pural insults and accusations. And you know, I said it 57 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: with Charity on bats or Happy Hour. We don't have 58 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 2: the full facts. We don't know what's going on, and obviously, 59 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: you know, we want her to get the help she needs. 60 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: We want her kids to be safe. But I wish 61 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: people would reserve judgment until they know the full story. 62 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 2: I really do. 63 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: I can't deny that we're all curious. I personally hope 64 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: that the show will be able to be aired. I 65 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: think there's some great guys on the show. I think 66 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: that based on what I've a little bit I've read 67 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: and heard from the guys. It was a great show, 68 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: and I personally want to see it, don't you. 69 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 70 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: I was looking forward to but us not having a 71 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: podcast for a week. Wasn't it like, it's not our 72 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: norm cats, weren't you like, well, well in a certain way. 73 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: Well, what I was feeling was I wanted to talk 74 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: about all the stuff. But remember I got to because 75 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: I was with Charity, and I sort of got it. 76 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: But it wasn't ours, Susan. 77 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: I missed you, Darling. 78 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: That's what I want to hear. 79 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: I missed you so much. I love Charity, but I 80 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: missed you. It wasn't the same. And Happy April Fools. 81 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 3: She's so mean, Oh my gosh. Movie right along? 82 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: All right, Kathy, let's get into some more bacheloration news. 83 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: We're going to start with Jesse on call her daddy 84 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,559 Speaker 2: talking about Taylor Frankie Paul. 85 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I was glued. 86 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: I was afraid to breathe that I'd missed something. 87 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: What did you think about? What Jesse said? For those 88 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: who don't know, Jesse went on call her daddy and 89 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: spoke about what's been going on and and she says 90 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: she and Jesse and Taylor Frankie Paul are very good friends. 91 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: A bestie's from the show from Mormon Wives and apparently 92 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: her soon to be ex husband that is, Jesse's soon 93 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: to be ex husband. Jordan and Dakota are best friends, 94 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: so that obviously brings a lot of conversation around those homes. 95 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: But what did you think about what she said about 96 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: her friend? 97 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: She was trying to be there for her. She obviously 98 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: loves her, and honestly, the first thing I noticed was 99 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 2: she is more supported supportive of Taylor than she is 100 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 2: her soon to be ex. Well that that said something 101 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: that spoke volumes to me. I mean, that's a true friendship. 102 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: But she also, in the same breath said hope, she's 103 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: hoping it's a wake up call for Taylor and about 104 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: the kids being safe and just happy and healthy life, 105 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,239 Speaker 2: like she made sure she had all that. But she's 106 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 2: her friend first, and you know, if you you're my bestie. Okay, Kathy, 107 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 2: if you knew things about. 108 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: Wait, is that an April Fool's joke? 109 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: Er? 110 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: Do you mean? 111 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 3: Nah? See, I'm not you. That was real. I forgot 112 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 3: what the date. 113 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 2: Okay, So, Kathy, if you were put on call her 114 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: daddy and Alex was throwing these questions at you and 115 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 2: you're my bestie and I'm going through like what Tailor's 116 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: going through. How do you control that? That answer like 117 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: you've got to be I mean. 118 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: I hear you. I think to your point. I think 119 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: that Jessie said a lot of right things about her friend. 120 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: She's caught, that Taylor's caught in a toxic cycle. That 121 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: she hopes they both get the help they need, that 122 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: she can make a comeback, That she wants her to 123 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: make sure the kids are taken care of. That all 124 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: I think, Uh, it doesn't go without saying, but it's 125 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: what anyone would say, right, friend or foe, you want 126 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: those things to happen. I found a little interesting that 127 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: jesse maybe gave a little bit of scoop to the audience. 128 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: She said that Taylor, she had just spoken to Taylor 129 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: before she came on I call her dad in podcast 130 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: and she said, I didn't want to tell anyone the 131 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: extent of what was going on. And so you know, 132 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: on my podcast with Charity, they were talking about accountability 133 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: and I don't know. I don't Again, I find myself thinking, 134 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: a Taylor's lucky to have a lot of supporters. We 135 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: all want the best for her too, And I also 136 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: keep thinking, we don't have all the information. We don't know, right, 137 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: we don't know what's really going on. I don't know 138 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: what's going on in Jordan's mind, in Dakota's mind, and 139 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: we just don't know. And yes, I agree with you, 140 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: it's one full to have friends. 141 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: But maybe in other words, what I'm hearing you say 142 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: is she might know a whole lot more detail and 143 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: didn't spill maybe, which which that's being a friend, right. No, 144 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: I mean her laundry is out there now. It's poor girl, 145 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: like her life is inside out. Everybody's chatting and people 146 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 2: not everybody has facts. It's a lot of hearsay. It's 147 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,559 Speaker 2: a lot of you know whose podcast said this, who's 148 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 2: whose statement on Instagram said this? And people are running 149 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: with it. Let's I just give it a beat, as 150 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: Jesse would call it. I do think. 151 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: I do think that Jesse wittingly or unwillingly gave a 152 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: great tease for the show because she said that Taylor 153 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: was a completely different person, that it was such a 154 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: great experience for her. So even though we're you know, 155 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: the sandwich, the bread is like a big michigas the 156 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: center of this sandwich sounds like it would be a 157 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: really entertaining, fabulous, fun thing to watch, and so you know, 158 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: I think, I think I want to see it. 159 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: I want to, like you, and I've been saying all along, 160 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: they went with something totally different, okay, and I think, 161 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 2: as you just said, it's going to be interesting, it's 162 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: going to be entertaining. It's what people want to see. 163 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: And now for them to pause the show gave me 164 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: a heart attack, just like all the Machelor Nation fans, 165 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 2: and I think even more people are curious to see 166 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: what it was like on that show with her. 167 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 3: So I feel like they just have to, they just 168 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: have to. 169 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: I will tell you something else I found interesting about 170 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: Jesse's I felt that she was very real. I mean, 171 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: she clearly is very supportive of her friend and yeay her. 172 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: You know, we all need friends like that. 173 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: Yes, she stands up for Taylor the whole entire time, 174 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 2: and she quotes that she really has changed and she's 175 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: such a good person. Everybody makes mistakes, but the world 176 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 2: doesn't know about everybody's mistakes. 177 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: But I love the fact that she has a friend 178 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: who supports her. And again, I want to see her 179 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: get happy, healthy. That's not just a fake thing. I 180 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: know that's real, that's real. I want her to find love. 181 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: I want her to be happy. I want her kids 182 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: to be happy. 183 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 184 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 2: And also, Kathy, did you notice her saying that the 185 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: whole group message thing after she got off the phone 186 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 2: with Taylor, she the group message started, and all these 187 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 2: women or ladies, girls, I want to call them girls, 188 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: because they're all so young, they're all supportive, they're all 189 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 2: hoping for the best. They're there for her, they're there 190 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: for Taylor. So now can I just side point for 191 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: a second. Cat She talked about the how they're family 192 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: to her. That hit home because that's exactly how we feel. 193 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 2: Our producers for our podcasts, our producers when we did 194 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: the show. They do become part of your life. And 195 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: she said how wonderful they were watching them go through this, 196 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 2: and because they're taking a beat. 197 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 3: But I just just wanted to mention that, Yeah, and 198 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 3: I got to say beautiful. 199 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: I got to say, our producers on this podcast, our 200 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: producers on the show, my producers on on Bats were 201 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: in paradise, they're the best. So yes, that is our 202 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: shut up for producers and people. You need to know 203 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: that they are the best. YEP, I mean They all 204 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: swore they were going to find me a date, and 205 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: they never have. But that's just a detail. Okay, we 206 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 1: are going to move in to a little thing we're 207 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: gonna call Golden Hotline. Okay, you know that. Every week 208 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: we answer questions from listeners. You and I love doing that. 209 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: We get them are I'm gonna say, expert Golden advice. 210 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: Even if it's not an expert, we have something to 211 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: say about everything. 212 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 3: It's called an opinion. 213 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: It's an opinion, it's a golden opinion. There you go, 214 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: a Golden Opinion segment. Okay, Susan, you want to start 215 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: us off? 216 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 3: I sure will. 217 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 2: Okay, first one, Hello, Susan and Kathy. I am a 218 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 2: big fan of you guys. I love all of the 219 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: Bachelor franchise. Let me get to the point. So all 220 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: of my friends are either getting boyfriends or had boyfriends, 221 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: and I'm the only one who has not had or 222 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 2: been in a relationship. I try not to make me 223 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: feel sad, but sometimes it does. I was wondering what 224 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: advice do you fabulous girls have for me? And I 225 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: love you guys. Hayley, she just didn't get there yet. 226 00:12:54,600 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: I don't know how old she is so hmm, so, Hayley, we. 227 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: Don't know how old you are. If you're seventeen, give. 228 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 3: It me, give it a bed. 229 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: That's our phrase for today, give it a new word. 230 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: If if you rush, and I don't care really what 231 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: age you are, don't settle. Don't rush into a relationship 232 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: because that's not going to work for you. And I 233 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: remember when my daughter who didn't get married till I 234 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: think she was thirty four, and she used to say, 235 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: you know, went's at my turn, wents at my turn? 236 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: And I said. I used to say to her, you know, 237 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: some of your friends who got married young, they're going 238 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: to be getting divorced because they know, because that's a fact. 239 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 2: How fatsy, you got married very young and you did 240 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 2: not get a divorce, You didn't finished. 241 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: It doesn't always mean that, but the percentages of marriages 242 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: fifty percent. I think it's gone down a little bit. 243 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: My point is if you you don't marry before you're ready, 244 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: you don't get into a relationship for you're ready. I 245 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: would say, Haley. The advice I always give to single people, 246 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: do the things you like, go to the places, get 247 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: involved in activities, and the right people will come into 248 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: your life. 249 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and she just says it makes me feel sad. Well, 250 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 2: you know what, that's a normal thing. There's nothing wrong 251 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: with you feeling sorry for yourself a little bit. And 252 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: the right one hasn't come yet. When he does, you're 253 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 2: going to look back and say, why was I worried? 254 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: But you feel like you're the only one that has it, 255 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: and I totally understand it. 256 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 3: Your normal life is good. 257 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: I wish you told me how old you were, because 258 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 2: my advice might be different. 259 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 3: You know, would it? 260 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: Though my advice would not be different, Susan, It doesn't matter. 261 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: Like if you were thirty something, then there's that's a 262 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 2: little something that you've never ever kissed a man or 263 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: been in a relationship. Yeah, that would be a different conversation. 264 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: Okay, what would your advice be if I want to 265 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: know why? 266 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 2: Maybe you should be looking for the same sex, Like 267 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 2: maybe that's. 268 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: Not your thing, man, Maybe she has bad breath. 269 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 3: That could be I mean, I don't know. Therapy would 270 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 3: be involved. 271 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: But no, right now, for what you told us, honey, 272 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: it's all good. 273 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 3: It'll happen. 274 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: And hey, right us back in, Yeah, right us, back in. 275 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: Let us know how old you are if you but 276 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: I'm telling you get out and get involved. Do not 277 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: sit on your sofa waiting for mister Wright to knock 278 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: on your front door, because I promise you I've tried 279 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: that and he has not come a knock and it. 280 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 3: Just doesn't come. But we don't know. 281 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: She might be out and about and just like we said, 282 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 2: hadn't met the right one yet. 283 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: But you will you all. 284 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: Right, We're gonna move on. This question is from Mikayla 285 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: A Hi, Susan and Kathy love listening to the podcast. 286 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: It's refreshing to hear your perspective on life. I'm struggling 287 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: to figure out if my marriage is something I should 288 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: keep fighting for or if it's time to walk away. 289 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: How do you actually know when you're ready for divorce 290 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: versus just going through a hard season. I feel stuck 291 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: in the middle and can't seem to make a clear decision. 292 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: Thank you, ladies. 293 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: Oh who are we to tell her where the walks? 294 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: For me, it's the word respect. When you lose respect 295 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: for your partner, that's something that's hard to get back. 296 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: Like your pros and cons list, you could write those 297 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: all day long, but we aren't here to say when 298 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 2: it's time when you've had enough and you don't have 299 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 2: enough respect for your spouse, then it's only fair to 300 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: end it. 301 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: So you and I've had this conversation before. I agree 302 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: with you, but I take it to another level. I 303 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: think when anyone says to you, A friend comes to 304 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: you and says, you know, I'm not sure. I'm not 305 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: feeling it in my marriage. In my mind, there are 306 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: already one foot out the door. 307 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 3: They are at that. 308 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: So, Mikayla, I feel like you might be one foot 309 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: out the door already. How do you know when you're 310 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: ready for divorce? That even just the way you phrased it, Mikayla, 311 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: you didn't say I'm not happy in my marriage? Should 312 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 1: I try counseling? Should I have? Have you talked with 313 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: your husband about these issues? You don't see any of that? 314 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: You say, I'm just. 315 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 2: A hard it's a hard line, am I right? We 316 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 2: do go through those in marriage. You do have hard times. 317 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: Sometimes people call it the seven years or the ten 318 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: year this or whatever, and and marriage does struggle. 319 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 3: It's a hard job. 320 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: But but wait, if someone you're right, and marriage takes 321 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: a lot. 322 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 3: Love heart. She says that, I love when I. 323 00:17:54,480 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: Say you're right. Yeah, remember it's April fools. Do you 324 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: just call me a bitch? Yeah? 325 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 3: I did? 326 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 2: Okay, friend noment like they're the things. 327 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: My point is all again, Michaela, we don't know you, 328 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: we don't have all the information here, and neither one 329 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: of us are therapists, and that is that is the truth. 330 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: But I think the way you're phrasing this, I would 331 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: say to you, Michaela, you need to do a little 332 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: work around what you want out of a marriage. What 333 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 1: are you willing to put in, What kind of sacrifices 334 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: are you willing to make? Have you tried therapy? Have 335 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: you talked with your spouse? Because here's why I'm going 336 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: to tell you, Mikayla, the rose always loses some of 337 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: its pedals, and it's up to both of you to 338 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: make your marriage exciting fun. It's not every day is 339 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: not going to be a thrill a minute. It's not. 340 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: But if you're bored or you're tired of marriage, you're 341 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: as responsible for it as your husband is. So I 342 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: would heard you to the way you're going to know 343 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: if you're done with your marriage is if you put 344 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 1: some work into it, and that's not just sitting around saying, okay, 345 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: another day's past. Marriage is work. And anyone who tells 346 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: you marriage is a breeze, it's you know, it's a 347 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: piece of cake. They're lying to you. They are lying. 348 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 2: It's always fun at the beginning. It's called the lust 349 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 2: love and that's my favorite time. But she's saying I 350 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: should keep fighting or time to walk away? So are 351 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 2: you fighting? That's the question you ask yourself. And I really, Mikayla, 352 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: want to know. Did you and your husband have this conversation? 353 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what I have. You had the conversation 354 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: with you and and fighting. I don't even like that 355 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: term fighting. Holp about I'm working really hard? Are you? 356 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's why I say, Mikayla, I think 357 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: I would do a little self reflection here. I'd have 358 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: a conversation with your husband. And I always say, get 359 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: some counseling. If you really want to work on the marriage, 360 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: don't go into counseling as a box check. Yep, you know, 361 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: I went to counseling. It's didn't work. Now we're getting divorced. 362 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: If that's your attitude, it's never going to work. So, 363 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: you know what, I believe marriages can be revived. I 364 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: believe that you can fall in love again. As Susan's 365 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: the hopeless romantic, I'm the hopeful romantic. You can rebuild 366 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: your marriage. It's how much work you want to put 367 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: into it. And I, for one, wish you the best. 368 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: I wish that you find a way. 369 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: And also keep in mind at old saying that grass 370 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: isn't always greener on the other side, and don't want 371 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 2: you to regret anything. 372 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 3: Thank you long and hard and pray about it. 373 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 2: Man. 374 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 375 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: And by the way, just so you know, MICHAELA, you 376 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: take the person you are. You take that without therapy, 377 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: without really self reflection. You will take the good and 378 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: the bad parts of you to your next laelationship. So 379 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: Susan's right, the grass isn't greener necessarily, and you know 380 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: you take who you are to the next relationship, so do. 381 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: So both have to be willing to work on That's 382 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 2: something before you give up. Yeah, that's thank you, Thanks 383 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: for sharing it. Let us know, let us know we 384 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: have time for one more. 385 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do another one? 386 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 3: Sure, all right ahead, Hi, ladies. 387 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 2: I recently welcomed my daughter the inn emergency C section 388 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 2: requiring blood transfusions in November, five days after the traumatic delivery, 389 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 2: my mom passed away from a heart attack at fifty 390 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 2: two with no warning signs. Wow. She was at my 391 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 2: house just hours before, visiting the new baby and my 392 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: two year old son. She was my best friend and 393 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,719 Speaker 2: a huge part of my village. I feel like I 394 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 2: have done at everything I am supposed to do, leaning 395 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 2: on my husband and others during my physical recovery, oh boy, 396 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 2: my heart to bleeding already, counseling for my emotion my 397 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 2: emotional recovery, joined the local moms group, define community with 398 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: other moms, and serving at my church in the programs 399 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 2: that have helped me. Kathy, she did everything that you 400 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 2: were thinking. 401 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 3: I know it. 402 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: I have a wonderful life and so much to be 403 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 2: grateful for, but I am still deeply sad at my 404 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 2: unexpected loss. Do you have any advice to help with 405 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 2: losing your parent? So suddenly I am feeling discouraged that 406 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 2: I have done everything I could think of, but still 407 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 2: feel deeply sad three months later. 408 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: Can I take this one? Sure you can, so I'm 409 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: trying not to cry on this one. 410 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 3: I know it's normal. 411 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: It's first of all, Yeah, Page, let me say to 412 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: you I hate to say this to you, but three 413 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: months it's nothing. But first I want to commend you, 414 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: Page for everything you've done. You have Susan's right. I 415 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 1: would say that to you. You've done everything right. You 416 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,959 Speaker 1: do have a lot to be grateful for. Life sometimes 417 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: just gives us a shitty hand, and but you are 418 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: trying to focus on the right things. So good for you. 419 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: It's okay. You know, when I did my grief therapy, 420 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: I felt like I should feel a certain way. Your feelings, Paige, 421 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: are your feelings, and they're they're they're not. You should 422 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: not feel diminished or discouraged. But you can feel any 423 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: way you want. Understand, these things take time. It takes 424 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: so much time, and you are going to feel deeply 425 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: sad for a long time. I will tell you these 426 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: little pithy quotes that people told me, but one sticks 427 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: in my mind. Page. The only way to get through 428 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: grief is to walk through it. And that's what you're doing. 429 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: You're walking through it, and I can tell you you 430 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: know it's going to get easier. I know that that 431 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: doesn't help you. Today. Try try just to get through 432 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: minute by minute today, Tomorrow, focus on that sweet baby 433 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: and Kathy. 434 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 2: When she writes it was like days after, five days after. 435 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:33,719 Speaker 2: Imagine your hormonal your hormones and your body are raising 436 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 2: when you have a baby. Just having a baby and 437 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,239 Speaker 2: the blood transfusion. That was dramatic, all of it. And 438 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: then you lose fifty two years old. That's not normal. 439 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 2: I know everybody knows you're going to lose your parents eventually, 440 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 2: but at fifty two that doesn't even enter your mind. 441 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 3: Good. 442 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: Let me just say I'm rereading the question though I'm 443 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: not sure page you're doing a lot. You're giving a lot. 444 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: You're giving a lot to your husband, your child, your community, church, 445 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: your mom group at church, serving the church programs. Who's 446 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: feeding you? 447 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 2: She's trying to go to these places for her emotion I'm. 448 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: Saying, is she getting counseling? Is she getting where she's 449 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: not doing for others someone's doing for her. I would say, Paige, 450 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: you might need a little bit more of that. 451 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 2: You know, Oh, she gets counseling for her emotional recovery 452 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 2: and from the church, then join the local mom's group. 453 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 2: You know, when you find others in your same situation, 454 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 2: you're doing everything and canny too much. As Cathy said, 455 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: you walk through it. You can't run. Time does heal, 456 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 2: it softens it. You're always going to feel sad when 457 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: you think of your mom and you loved her. Soon 458 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 2: it's only three months, but soon you start thinking of 459 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: all the wonderful moments you had with her and think 460 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 2: of the positive thoughts when your mom was here. 461 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 3: And that's pretty much. 462 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean when you say do you have any help, page, 463 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: that help is you have to live in it, you 464 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: have to feel it. And I just hope you're taking 465 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: care of yourself. You know, put your feet up, take 466 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: a nap, don't do what other people tell you should 467 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: do you know what you're feeling. There's no time. That's 468 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: the other thing page. There's no timeline for these things. 469 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: There's what works for one person doesn't work for another person. 470 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: Be good to yourself, give yourself some grace, give yourself 471 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: a break. 472 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 2: Yes, And I sometimes you said, Kathy, walk through it. 473 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 3: It doesn't go away to her. 474 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: Trust me, I tried to run through it. You don't. 475 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: And ladies and gentlemen everybody out there listening, you too, 476 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 2: can submit your burning questions to us. At All you 477 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: have to do is go to Bachelor Nation dot com 478 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 2: slash Golden Hour. We come back every week and when 479 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 2: you submit yours, keep coming back to see if we 480 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 2: get to answer yours. 481 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 3: That's what this is about. 482 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: It is but also we love updates. So Paige, we'd 483 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: love to know how you're doing. Hayley, we want to 484 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: know if you've met your guy, we want to know, 485 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: So guys, give us your updates. We really do want 486 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: to hear how you're. 487 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 2: Doing, right, Mikayla, everybody? 488 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: So, I don't know, Susan. This has been really it's 489 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: been a great podcast because we got to answer some 490 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: questions for our listeners. 491 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 2: Kathy wait, Wait, Kathy wait, it's a great podcast because 492 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 2: we're doing one. 493 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 3: I had a week off and I wasn't on vacation. 494 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: Like I missed this. 495 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: Go cut somebody's hair and you'll feel better. But I 496 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: don't know for me all of this that's going on 497 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: in real time with Taylor, Frankie Paul. I know that 498 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: people are scouring the internet. They're trying to find out. 499 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: I just I want people to be a little kinder. 500 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: Am I asking too much? 501 00:27:59,240 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 3: No? 502 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: No, you're not, and that have did we not come 503 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 2: off our show saying just be kind? The world would 504 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 2: be such a better place, no matter what it is 505 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: or who it is. 506 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, just be kind. 507 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 2: You want to treat people like you want to be treated. 508 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 2: Put yourself in her shoes. 509 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: It's all those adages like, yeah, we don't all the truth. 510 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: There's two sides to every story, all those adages, those 511 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 1: pithy quotes that we've heard since we were kids, it 512 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: all applies here. Treat others the way you'd like to 513 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: be treated. 514 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: And Kathy, I want to say one more thing that 515 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 2: you said that I give you kudos. I'm telling you 516 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 2: when she comes out and speaks, You're right. Everything is 517 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: out in the open. There are no more secrets. If 518 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: that's not something to help you take the next step 519 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 2: forward and put this shit behind you and move on 520 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: with your life. 521 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: Thank you all for joining us. We are so glad 522 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: to be back. I hope you enjoyed listening to us 523 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: as much as we enjoyed being here. 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