WEBVTT - Crack to the Future (with Kaseem Bentley)

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<v Speaker 1>You know, just your struggled. When I mentioned you was

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<v Speaker 1>like you was in between like an at risk youth

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<v Speaker 1>and an at risk of dope. You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>You was like you was like a homeless DayWalker. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. I think I saw you one

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<v Speaker 1>time eat a cigarette, you know, open at open. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, it was mental. He was doing it

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<v Speaker 1>for the taste and the coundar you the tip, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because my chips in your means bankers, racist, the host players,

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<v Speaker 1>money stuff. I can't tell me bang bang bang skeet

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<v Speaker 1>skeet skeet. There it is there, it is. Ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me,

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast where we dine deep into the pockets of

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<v Speaker 1>black conspiracy theories and we finally work to prove that

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<v Speaker 1>Zoe Sell Donna is the greatest black face artist of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Name an instance, name a single instance of black face

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<v Speaker 1>that has brought the world more universal joy than Zoe

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<v Speaker 1>Sell Donna in black face. I dare you anybody volunteering

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<v Speaker 1>That lady has brought us hours and hours of laughs

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<v Speaker 1>and memes, and we should be thanking her for putting

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<v Speaker 1>that black face on not shaming her. She's a She's

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<v Speaker 1>a hero in my book. She's a goddamn goddess. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Langston Kerman. I'm confused. You don't remember when Zoe put

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<v Speaker 1>on black face. No, I don't know what you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about at all. Zoe's out down, and I love that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know this. Zoe's out down. At one point

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<v Speaker 1>was cast to play Nina Simone in the biopic biopic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not It's not how I first pronounced it, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh either way, Zoe's out down. It was Nina Simone.

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<v Speaker 1>They shot the whole motherfucker. I think it's available. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a sure if they ever released it. But look

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<v Speaker 1>up Zoe sat down in black face that you will

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<v Speaker 1>be stunned to see her the same color as you

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<v Speaker 1>and dead serious about it. Oh no, I see I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, Zoe. You Nina would be so upset. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>be serious? This light skin. She a woman who spent

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<v Speaker 1>her entire career just trying to be proud of her

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful black skin and be appreciated for for the gifts

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<v Speaker 1>she was bringing to the black community, is then being mocked.

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<v Speaker 1>But a woman who was exclusively fucked white men on camera,

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<v Speaker 1>almost purely, I would say in life as well. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what's crazy to me is I didn't know. I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this was against the rules. This is black

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<v Speaker 1>face inception. I didn't. That's that deep black that's watching

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<v Speaker 1>the Watchman. I don't like it because this precedent means

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<v Speaker 1>now rappers can do it. Yeah, this is so so bad. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like when you think you're about to have a

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<v Speaker 1>chocolate cake but it's a butterscotch on the inside and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, what the fuck, But there's more chocolate on

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<v Speaker 1>the inside, so yeah, it's just chocolate being like I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I would scotch too. Oh no, Zoe, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>bet you. It was pretty good back she seems like

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<v Speaker 1>she would be a bad Nina Simone. That's also what's

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<v Speaker 1>stunning about the Chows is it's not like they picked

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<v Speaker 1>the best singer or like the most talented personality. It

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<v Speaker 1>was truly like, no, we just we like her. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do that. I feel like to be play Nina Simone.

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<v Speaker 1>You someone has to have called you nigger with heart?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that that's like I know that sounds that sounds crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, what I know. I think that's a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent. It has to be a really it has

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<v Speaker 1>to be really earned, like you have to know how

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<v Speaker 1>hot fish grease gets. Yeah, this is this is maybe

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<v Speaker 1>as close to asking me to play like Jiman Hansu,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Like this is would you

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<v Speaker 1>black face for a room? Would I black face for

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<v Speaker 1>a role? If they were like, hey, Langston, the Terry

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<v Speaker 1>Cruise biopic is coming out. Oh, I would black face

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<v Speaker 1>for the Terry Cruise bio bio gas? Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the that would truly I would retire off of

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<v Speaker 1>the Terry Crews biopic. Mew and black face popping my titties?

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, bro dancing that you're telling me that's not

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<v Speaker 1>the funniest movie to ever exist. Yeah, I would really

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<v Speaker 1>like it. That would be so fucking good that I

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<v Speaker 1>guess what we found is that I like light skin

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<v Speaker 1>black face. Yeah, I think I think honestly, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be a pioneer, you'll do some light skin face.

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<v Speaker 1>And see, I don't think it works that we can

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<v Speaker 1>pay and I just look Panamanian just like you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't reverse engineering. Yeah, come on, man, Heavy Heavy

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<v Speaker 1>D has got a whole career that has. You're telling

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<v Speaker 1>me you wouldn't play heavy d we're doing. I would,

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<v Speaker 1>I would pay them. I don't feel like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like Lee Daniels. You gotta Lee Daniels, please, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't never asked you for nothing, Lee Daniels. Damn,

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<v Speaker 1>come on at Lee's like, damn, you don't. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>ask me for nothing, man, come on, And then I

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<v Speaker 1>just started doing now that we but we're gonna do, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be amazing. Come on, man, that guy was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was fat and wearing like green leather. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>know he was gorgeous? He was. He was fucking gorgeous

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<v Speaker 1>and so proud to be fat. That was. He was

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<v Speaker 1>never sweaty, which is how you know it was Hollywood magic. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sweating in this hot ass hat right now. I

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<v Speaker 1>got a fan over. He had zip lock bags of

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<v Speaker 1>ice just take to his skin, just under his shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like he wouldn't even secretly. He wasn't even

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<v Speaker 1>that attic heavy. It was just like that ice. It

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<v Speaker 1>was all that ice to cool him down because he

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<v Speaker 1>never not one time. You never saw that guy because

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<v Speaker 1>you know how other facts like there's pictures where they

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<v Speaker 1>caught Big out of pocket and he's like sweatiest out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no heavy sweaty D. Sweaty heavy sweat heavy sweaty D.

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<v Speaker 1>That's me ye heavy No oh man, wait you say it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you guys something to tell, just send them back.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm just thinking, it's like I've been coming in, coming,

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<v Speaker 1>coming in. We'll it will. It's a skin bleach his

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<v Speaker 1>whole face. Seen that the whole process. So you don't

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<v Speaker 1>be sweaty D Mann. You learn the dance steps and

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta get the bags eye. Which is really funny

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm thinking I'm blowing away to back like Heavy D.

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<v Speaker 1>I never saw him sweat because like like I'm I

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<v Speaker 1>keep real it's hard to be as fat as us

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<v Speaker 1>and not sweat. It is like a miracle. Like one

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<v Speaker 1>time I went to a taping for Guy Brandam that

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<v Speaker 1>like you could freeze meat in that studio. It was

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<v Speaker 1>it was degrees and it was a side of rocky

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<v Speaker 1>beef like like so that the Heavy D didn't sweat,

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<v Speaker 1>could dance and had a fucked up I motherfucker I

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<v Speaker 1>he had he had come, man, he had a fatty walk.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a heavy up. It wasn't that. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>that milky. It was milky bro. Yeah. I thought he

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<v Speaker 1>had more of a music soul child going on. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know that. It was like fatty WAPs is a

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<v Speaker 1>full like ain't nothing in that hole. Somebody shot d

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<v Speaker 1>in the eye. You know. It was like that. The

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<v Speaker 1>D was for dope and it was a bad dope,

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<v Speaker 1>no heavy, and he bagged so many that Veronica Webb. Yeah. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this troupe, but somebody said he

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<v Speaker 1>oh he went on a day with Howie barry Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn dam can. I don't doubt that for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have sex with heavy D. That man was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was smoothest, smoothest, goddamn fat silk. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what what what the equivalent is, but fat silk was

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<v Speaker 1>for dick, you know what I mean. Don't signed He

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<v Speaker 1>signed his tack with his dick. You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Heavy heavy dick. He was just right heavy dick here

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<v Speaker 1>here and here and h That was like the only

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<v Speaker 1>rapper I saw growing the black one who didn't like rap.

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<v Speaker 1>They liked heavy d. Yeah, he was. He was so

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<v Speaker 1>fun man. That was my favorite rapper. Growing up like

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<v Speaker 1>this good act. This my fucker gets it good in life,

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<v Speaker 1>in life and no blastes. He had no glasses on

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<v Speaker 1>in life you barely knew he was. He really had

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<v Speaker 1>it man. Yeah, well, we can't keep memorializing Heavy D

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of this episode. We got other fat

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<v Speaker 1>rappers we can talk about. Yeah, what what a fun

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<v Speaker 1>journey to begin with, and we haven't even introduced our guests.

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<v Speaker 1>He's he's a hilarious comedian. You've already heard his voice

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<v Speaker 1>you and we haven't even introduced our co host. I think, uh, frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you were just confused and never in fact

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<v Speaker 1>said your name. But I'm yeah, go ahead, I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Heavy D. David boy is silent, No Avid Borri, It's

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<v Speaker 1>just Heavy D from now on. Somebody's got to pick

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<v Speaker 1>up the mantel. It's like, it's like, how there's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a different black panther now and you gotta you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a there's a new Heavy D in town. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a new Heavy D in town. This one's a girl.

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<v Speaker 1>We are today, No, we are Freddy all right, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say this, I'm not disagreeing with you, but I am

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<v Speaker 1>moving on. You got a damn he smooth both now

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<v Speaker 1>our guests today, hilarious comedian. We're so happy he's here.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a a podcast, a a podcast that a

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<v Speaker 1>returning podcast. If I'm understanding correctly that it is hilarious

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<v Speaker 1>as fuck. You know him, you love him. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>called White Slavery. It's coming back out December fift Give

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<v Speaker 1>it up for Cassim Bentley. Something's go. You understand this

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<v Speaker 1>is Kransa come early. You know what I'm saying that

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get twenty more downloads this one. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, this one? You know you hear that, David,

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<v Speaker 1>We're doubling our downloads. This is very exciting. Watch out

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<v Speaker 1>this American life. You know, we're We're really excited. You're here.

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<v Speaker 1>And you came. You you've been a fan of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I I know you've you've watched a lot of or

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<v Speaker 1>rather listen to a bunch of the episodes. And you

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<v Speaker 1>came to David specifically with the conspiracy theory that when

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<v Speaker 1>he shared it with us, we were like, hell, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta get Cassism on immediately, because this is something,

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<v Speaker 1>at least personally I had never heard although we've had

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<v Speaker 1>weird debates about it in the past, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>not something I'd ever heard genuinely pitched as like a

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<v Speaker 1>sincere argument. But more importantly, it's one that I think

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna bring. It's gonna be spicy. It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a spicy episode. You said, my mama told me black

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<v Speaker 1>crack addicts are more wild than white crack addicts. Yeah. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>if you hate cops just because the cops, the next

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<v Speaker 1>time you get in trouble, call it crackhead. That's right now,

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<v Speaker 1>you say stuff, you know, and it's a stupid ass comment.

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<v Speaker 1>Because crackheads on the phone, dog, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>If they do, they got an Obama phone the only

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<v Speaker 1>last two weeks, you know what I mean. That's guys problem.

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<v Speaker 1>The cracks girl to crack his girlfriend has the phone,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, or like they're high functioning brother and or sister.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, or the guilty mom who feels that she

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<v Speaker 1>was responsible. Right, he's on the fucking pooky yeah, you like,

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<v Speaker 1>he can't he can't live in the house anymore, but

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<v Speaker 1>he still uses my phone. You can't find him on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone. You can just go to his mama's basement,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Just like he's somebody worried

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<v Speaker 1>about him. He needs a phone. You've got to give

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<v Speaker 1>him your phone. You guys, just go find his case manager,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. You'll find you'll you'll working out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And let me ask you this, tell me

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<v Speaker 1>specifically about this conspiracy. Where does this come from? Here's

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<v Speaker 1>what Here's what happened when I was I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't the boy was alive night five, but but

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<v Speaker 1>it was like a little baby in Africa, like I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was making phones, making phone kidding diamonds off the

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<v Speaker 1>diamond mine, you know, there taking phones and sell each other's.

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<v Speaker 1>He brings them back the week. So he's sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>and that came up a airplane. Right. So I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a I'm not a Black Studies miner, but I

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<v Speaker 1>would take a lot of Black studies, right. So in

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<v Speaker 1>this class about Melani, because it was just like it

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<v Speaker 1>was just it was just really interesting. Right. So in

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<v Speaker 1>this class, and I don't know the teacher's name, but

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<v Speaker 1>she was one of them professors that like was mixed.

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<v Speaker 1>But she looked like like she looked like that lady

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<v Speaker 1>who recently lost she's a Republican, but she's white, but

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<v Speaker 1>she we thought she was black. The story broke like

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<v Speaker 1>a week or two ago. I don't even remember in Arizona.

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<v Speaker 1>You mean, yeah, she looked like her yeah, when they're

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<v Speaker 1>like when you do the way back photos, and like

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<v Speaker 1>her hair was like curly, but it was still kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wavy white. And so when she let us know

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<v Speaker 1>she was she was one of the people that was

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<v Speaker 1>like that kind of black where she's like, she don't

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<v Speaker 1>she looks kind of black, like like a hologram. She

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<v Speaker 1>had this like racial hologram. Right at one angle, she

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<v Speaker 1>was Puerto Rican, but then if you look at six degrees,

0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.360
<v Speaker 1>she would kind of gets like a bleached out and Jerian,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what it's like. So she hit us one

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<v Speaker 1>day with this thing. I forgive the classes called it

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<v Speaker 1>couses about melanin, but that when she hit us with

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<v Speaker 1>this one thing, it was it blew us all away

0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:15.080
<v Speaker 1>because she had she had brought the video from this

0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:18.360
<v Speaker 1>one professor. It was making all this waves, uh in

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<v Speaker 1>the night, he's about melanin, and she said that one

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<v Speaker 1>of the problems that it has some melanin is that

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<v Speaker 1>it had a can attach itself to certain drugs namily cocaine,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's like there are certain bonding agents that will

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<v Speaker 1>that are they're founding. It was just a discovery, said

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<v Speaker 1>found a melanin so meaning like the darker that you are.

0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:38.600
<v Speaker 1>And also they had to deal with your hair to

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So it was just like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like the more courser curly whatever. But

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<v Speaker 1>they said with melanie, they said that they found it

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<v Speaker 1>that the darker you were right on the deck, the

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<v Speaker 1>darker the pigment would lack itself on and in hard

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<v Speaker 1>time separating itself. So the guy was sterizing. That is

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<v Speaker 1>why you see he was making a moving trying to

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<v Speaker 1>help making sure that black people should gain more. The

0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:02.480
<v Speaker 1>more fund there's more attention, there should be more of

0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:05.280
<v Speaker 1>a concern of getting black people off this. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make sure that the people in the community

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<v Speaker 1>understand I mean this um terms like drug treatment, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even to the government understanding that this it's it was

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<v Speaker 1>just groundbreaking discovery. And when we heard it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like when black people here's something so funny and they

0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:24.680
<v Speaker 1>can start running away, you know what I mean, comedy Jack,

0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:30.199
<v Speaker 1>when everyone's like, oh, it was like any of us

0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:33.280
<v Speaker 1>in this class. It was all different times of black people.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was an old black lady. I think she's

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<v Speaker 1>like a hundred and two, and it was like young

0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:39.680
<v Speaker 1>people like me. We all went. We all had our

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<v Speaker 1>hands in our head, our hands and our afros in

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<v Speaker 1>our dress. We was like what and she's like, yeah,

0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:47.720
<v Speaker 1>that's why you when you see it, it's harder for

0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:50.600
<v Speaker 1>black people to get off drugs. And we all were

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<v Speaker 1>just like frozen, and it was just why white doing

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<v Speaker 1>the class? I think it was taking copious notes. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like we're for the government. Right. He's like sitting there,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're gonna see. It was like they found

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<v Speaker 1>out right, and that he never he never came back

0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:07.119
<v Speaker 1>to the class. That he came one more class and

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<v Speaker 1>then dipped down. He probably look a senator somewhere, right.

0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:12.840
<v Speaker 1>It's like geving me some day. He was just writing

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<v Speaker 1>in a notebook, gonna have to kill this light skinned

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<v Speaker 1>bitch to the lou boys. But the teacher, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to find out. I wish I would have found

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<v Speaker 1>a day that teacher she dropped it because she would

0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:30.360
<v Speaker 1>have had a microphone. She would have been like Chappelle

0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:33.080
<v Speaker 1>because dropped it like that's right, you know, I mean,

0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:35.120
<v Speaker 1>like Chris Rockets dropping at the end of the set

0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:39.159
<v Speaker 1>because she dropped a fucking bomb on us. Bro Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So so she says this to you, are you guys

0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:46.239
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like you guys are immediately bought in. You're not.

0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:49.040
<v Speaker 1>You don't question this at all. You're not sitting there

0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:51.560
<v Speaker 1>going There was a skeptic kind of like boring, you

0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:53.680
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, like, you know, a real sellout

0:18:53.760 --> 0:19:07.040
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker right fun Martin Luther used to be his name

0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:12.280
<v Speaker 1>on AIM. He didn't even you know, because he was

0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:14.560
<v Speaker 1>like a real like he I think he was the

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<v Speaker 1>only guy I had never met at the time that

0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:20.000
<v Speaker 1>was like I believe he was conservative, you know what

0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean. You know how CNN it has like Andrew R.

0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Ryan a bunch of other like angry funny lights black

0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:27.520
<v Speaker 1>people seeing that, and there's always that one kind of

0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:31.280
<v Speaker 1>bow tie, you know what I mean. Yeah, he was.

0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:34.920
<v Speaker 1>He was like old Don Lemon type energy if it's out,

0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:38.400
<v Speaker 1>you know Don Lemon before before the racial uprising. Don

0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:40.919
<v Speaker 1>Lemon was real funny, you know what I mean. He

0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:43.240
<v Speaker 1>was a real fucking weirdo. And then all of a sudden,

0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:46.240
<v Speaker 1>he like got cool and gay out of nowhere, and

0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:50.000
<v Speaker 1>it's like, nah, Don Lemon, I remember when you was

0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:52.760
<v Speaker 1>out here sucking titties and and telling black people to

0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:55.160
<v Speaker 1>pull their pants up. He was acting real different because

0:19:55.520 --> 0:20:02.000
<v Speaker 1>he was Don Lemonade. Yeah, was like he was. You

0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:05.920
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, you remember, we remember who you were,

0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:10.879
<v Speaker 1>Don Lemon, pepper Pepperidge Farm remembered Lemon, you know what

0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:17.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean. So you hear this, You hear that that potentially, uh,

0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:21.959
<v Speaker 1>black crackheads are are more activated by crack than our

0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:27.120
<v Speaker 1>white counterparts. Are you then, uh spreading this gospel? What's

0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:30.200
<v Speaker 1>what's your intent with this information? Are you then? Are

0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:32.560
<v Speaker 1>you trying to like liberate crackheads? How do you? How

0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:35.119
<v Speaker 1>do you how do you approach this? I was like

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<v Speaker 1>Malcolm to x, you know what I mean, T shirt

0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:42.159
<v Speaker 1>like I was out there because I come from a

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<v Speaker 1>provider family, Like my mom worked as a social worker

0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:49.240
<v Speaker 1>and she also worked in pregnancy provincial teams. My father

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<v Speaker 1>he worked at juvenile you know what I'm saying, and

0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:54.320
<v Speaker 1>gets in the community. It was just normal for us

0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:56.879
<v Speaker 1>to have these kind of discussions. So I'm my third

0:20:56.920 --> 0:21:00.280
<v Speaker 1>eye is way open vising the whole nine. I got,

0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:03.199
<v Speaker 1>I got one classes right here, right, I'm coming. I

0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:07.919
<v Speaker 1>come home like like what a mom? I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I heard this thing and the teacher said today that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Melani and can bond itself to crack And

0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:18.399
<v Speaker 1>it's just like what And you know, my mom is

0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:20.560
<v Speaker 1>busy doing some black mom stuff, you know, putting it

0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:23.399
<v Speaker 1>in her hair, you know what I mean? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know on the phone like this, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. Anything, She was like wait what yeah, and

0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:35.520
<v Speaker 1>she's like that would explain brother Ken. Brother Ken was

0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:37.520
<v Speaker 1>this brother in our neighborhood that was in the nation

0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:41.760
<v Speaker 1>and he was he was like off craft. I didn't know.

0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:43.399
<v Speaker 1>He was like he used to be a party my

0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:50.400
<v Speaker 1>mom calling party boys, right, you know mom record, Yeah,

0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:58.679
<v Speaker 1>my mom, My mom, My Mom Party. The album's party Boys.

0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:03.600
<v Speaker 1>The first it's like the first the first track is

0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:14.600
<v Speaker 1>wash your Nuts. Imagine my mom, you know what, the

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<v Speaker 1>super funny light red Fox. I can see my mom

0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:21.000
<v Speaker 1>could be like, yeah, you gotta watch the nuts, you know. Yeah,

0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:24.239
<v Speaker 1>it's a that's a perfect Red Fox record. You want

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<v Speaker 1>to party always on a piano behind her, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean? So my mom's light skinned mine is

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<v Speaker 1>blown you know what I'm saying, Then my parents are

0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:37.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna through black divorce. So my dad lived downstairs, right,

0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:41.200
<v Speaker 1>So my dad lives downstairs. My dad sitcom. That's not

0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:45.600
<v Speaker 1>that's not an ideal set up, but black divorce I do.

0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:48.399
<v Speaker 1>I've always I've written sh about this, but like in

0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:51.560
<v Speaker 1>where I'm my neighborhood, there's a whole other thing. When

0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I talk about on stage for podcast, people kind of

0:22:55.040 --> 0:22:57.399
<v Speaker 1>get what I'm saying, Like a lot of like people

0:22:57.480 --> 0:23:00.760
<v Speaker 1>who came together and pute like civil rights or rights,

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<v Speaker 1>and you learn after the Afros turned to Jerry Curls,

0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:05.359
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, and others and ship like

0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:08.119
<v Speaker 1>I like this motherfucker's so. But you you come from

0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:11.080
<v Speaker 1>the hood, you had enough money together to get a house,

0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:13.840
<v Speaker 1>but then you want then you get divorced or you

0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:16.359
<v Speaker 1>split up and you don't want to move back to

0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:20.359
<v Speaker 1>an apartment or the jacks. If there's a room downstairs,

0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:25.160
<v Speaker 1>daddy lived downstairs. Yeah, those resources this we we invested

0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:27.520
<v Speaker 1>our lives in each other. Were gon We're gonna rod

0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:30.280
<v Speaker 1>this bad boy out. Even if we ain't, we ain't

0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:32.320
<v Speaker 1>together no more. If my dad wanted to be a

0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:33.879
<v Speaker 1>good black dad, you know what I mean. He was

0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:35.800
<v Speaker 1>like a fat, furious Stiles. You know what I mean.

0:23:35.840 --> 0:23:38.520
<v Speaker 1>He was like, my dad would be downstairs looking like

0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Jerry the Damager, Right, he'd be downstairs. We're like Chinese

0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:45.680
<v Speaker 1>medicine balls and like if you're the black leaders that

0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:47.960
<v Speaker 1>always point at you like you did something wrong and

0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:50.840
<v Speaker 1>ship right somebody. So I go down my Dad's where

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:55.800
<v Speaker 1>my dad's learning how to make in sense, right, and

0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:57.880
<v Speaker 1>he was like, frying fish can't learn how to make

0:23:57.880 --> 0:24:01.639
<v Speaker 1>inceps at the same time, right, he's sprinkling incense in

0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:06.360
<v Speaker 1>the fish. Right, He's like, I told Dad, Yo, I'm

0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:09.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm like the town crier. I'm like, yo, did you

0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:15.800
<v Speaker 1>know that crack can bond itself to the melanin? My

0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:18.920
<v Speaker 1>dad's reading a book like How to Kill White People,

0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Volume two or so? Ship right, he was. My dad

0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:24.600
<v Speaker 1>puts his book down, not as good as the first

0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:29.200
<v Speaker 1>one book slap Audible took it down. But it's slap though.

0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:31.000
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, Kyrie posting it you know

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:34.520
<v Speaker 1>what sitting there. So my dad takes his like prison

0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:38.240
<v Speaker 1>like burning glasses off, right, and he goes, excuse me.

0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 1>And when when my dad said excuse me, he knew

0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:44.120
<v Speaker 1>I said something that blew his mind. To my dad

0:24:44.160 --> 0:24:46.920
<v Speaker 1>was ultra black. You know what I'm saying, Like my dad,

0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 1>my dad, no one was gonna let him in a nation.

0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Well he was too fat to be the nation, right

0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:53.359
<v Speaker 1>but like you know what I'm saying. But like he

0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:56.439
<v Speaker 1>was like, but my dad was like what what he's like?

0:24:56.800 --> 0:25:00.000
<v Speaker 1>This teacher just taught me melanan bonds itself tis there

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:02.520
<v Speaker 1>agents and melanin. And my dad said, now, when my

0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:04.600
<v Speaker 1>and my dad took like this, he boys put his

0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:08.440
<v Speaker 1>his three fingers together and he would talk like wait, wait, no, no, no,

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 1>break this down to me. And I was like yeah,

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:15.080
<v Speaker 1>And my dad said, I gotta I gotta make some calls.

0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:20.320
<v Speaker 1>And I don't see people listening things. I'm lying? Did

0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:22.800
<v Speaker 1>my dad when he heard this? Because my dad was

0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:24.720
<v Speaker 1>a part of all these African groups, you know what

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like like all this ship. So my dad

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:30.280
<v Speaker 1>called his friend Wadatta and he was our local roster

0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:34.320
<v Speaker 1>shop on the guy. He's like, brother, brother, but what

0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:37.840
<v Speaker 1>are you doing right now? He's like He's like, I'm

0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:40.240
<v Speaker 1>and and what Donna was one of them like Roster's

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:42.800
<v Speaker 1>don't like love being black with love white women even more,

0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So he was sitting there

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:47.760
<v Speaker 1>and he's and he put on speaker phone. He's like, hey,

0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:49.919
<v Speaker 1>tell what Donna? What he said I said? And I'm like,

0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 1>way far, like thirty feet away. I'm like, he's like, greetings,

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:58.280
<v Speaker 1>now tell me this information. I'm like, uh, crack can

0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:01.720
<v Speaker 1>attach itself to melanin and that's why the drug problem

0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:08.879
<v Speaker 1>is so widespread in the black community. And he's like, ah, y, interesting,

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:14.880
<v Speaker 1>what's about marijuana? And she I said, she didn't talk

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 1>about that. Well, caught me back when it sh don't

0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:22.240
<v Speaker 1>talk about weed. Then I went back to class and

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:23.879
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, I can ask a question for

0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm first, I'm I used to sit in the back

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:28.280
<v Speaker 1>like a loser, right, I was in the front. I

0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:31.040
<v Speaker 1>needed to know more. I was like, hey, I was wondering,

0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 1>does weed attach itself to other drugs? And she said,

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:39.640
<v Speaker 1>that's a very good question. It there are certain other properties.

0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:42.119
<v Speaker 1>Now they're looking at cocaine, but there are things like

0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:44.679
<v Speaker 1>like things that are related to cocaine. Yes, but they

0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:47.919
<v Speaker 1>have not found it yet. Attached yourself to marijuana, but

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 1>the properties of melanin. The guy she had been talking

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 1>about said more than likely it should be able to

0:26:55.760 --> 0:26:58.879
<v Speaker 1>put them to certain narcotics. So but just going with

0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 1>the crack cocaine, it just fucked our all minds up

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 1>and for and the the professor was talking about like

0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:08.879
<v Speaker 1>like how long it takes for like how long it

0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:11.560
<v Speaker 1>usually takes for cocaine to get out of your system?

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, just generally just out of your system. You

0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean and what the detrimental effects are.

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 1>But what happens when it bonds to your system is crazy.

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:22.440
<v Speaker 1>That's why it's funny when you see black people like it.

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 1>It takes us much longer. But then she had explained

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 1>that the melanin also helps create some sort of barrier,

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:33.400
<v Speaker 1>so it doesn't really it in some kind of way,

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:36.399
<v Speaker 1>it bonds it to you, but it doesn't. It's almost

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 1>like me put sunscreen on, you know what I mean,

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 1>like like me, okay, you know, like the sun penetrates.

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh sorry, I didn't know, Bri, I didn't know. There's

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:50.879
<v Speaker 1>just serious way the sun burns me. And I'm not

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:56.400
<v Speaker 1>proud of I'm sorry that always Wesley number five when

0:27:56.400 --> 0:28:00.040
<v Speaker 1>the darkness charted, you know, it likes to look I

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 1>can have some piece of bacon over there. Even tone

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Bell get sitting down there avoiding you're standing underneath the tree.

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, that's what I like. You

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:15.400
<v Speaker 1>like saying you just got that, you got that handsome

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:17.879
<v Speaker 1>civil rights face. You know what I'm saying, like you

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 1>you look man. I didn't love the tone Bell comparisons either,

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 1>So you know I think I think, hey, we're all

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:30.400
<v Speaker 1>doing our best with what we got. You know, this

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 1>is this is the face. I'm stuck with you. You Tony,

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:37.320
<v Speaker 1>you should make a singing group. You know. I'd love

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>a good eye scar, but I'm a coward, so so

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 1>here I am. You know, I don't think he would do.

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's enough. Okay, I got you. I

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 1>need something more than I need something dramatic to happen

0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 1>to me. Yeah, you need like a bad you need

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>a bad eye. Oh I need Oh I need a

0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 1>heavy d You're big. Hell, you're a big hel like

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, lens and fat would still get so Actually,

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 1>legs and fat probably get more. I mean your wife,

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 1>your wife to listen to this podcast, right, and she doesn't.

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 1>But but I want to be clear with anybody who does,

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not gonna be accused of adultery because

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 1>because seems on the episode, I'm just saying I saw

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>you in Ashley Madison. You know what I mean, I

0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:35.240
<v Speaker 1>don't know what version of a world you've imagined where

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 1>you show up. And then I go, no, my wife,

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 1>don't listen. Go ahead, Cassinem, tell everyone how I cheat

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 1>on her. I was wondering why you've been backing on

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 1>the road, you know what I mean, Tell tell the

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:55.480
<v Speaker 1>world how I'm constantly eating out strange. That's that's what

0:29:55.560 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>you would be doing. Yeah, I think so that's you know,

0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 1>that's how you know I'm not cheating that. That's where

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 1>my mind goes. I'm like, well, I gotta eat these

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 1>ladies out. And I was due. I was mesmerized by you.

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Dog eyes were twinkling. But also because you're a hot comic.

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:20.600
<v Speaker 1>You're like hot, like most comics are ugly. They look

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 1>like they should be on Game of Throne. And then

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:27.640
<v Speaker 1>you listen, then you got all buff for the boys.

0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Come on, I assure you, it's back to normal, fellas. Anyway,

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 1>we we could not have gone longer past the break

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 1>than we already have. Uh, we are going to take

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 1>a break we'll be back with more cousin Bentley and more.

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 1>My mama told me, I don't even who say what

0:30:57.200 --> 0:31:08.680
<v Speaker 1>blood oh creep. We are back talking about cocaine bonding

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>to melanin. Yeah yeah, also a lot of heavy d

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 1>yeah stuff. There's a lot of ship going on. The

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 1>theory is that that cocaine and melanin have the potential

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 1>to bond, and subsequently that is the the reason why

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 1>our crackheads are so pronounced is because of the possibility

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:31.960
<v Speaker 1>that this crack is I guess lingering in the system

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>longer than than it would be for the white counterparts.

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Is that all? Yeah, I don't believe this one. You're

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 1>not bought in at all. But it doesn't it doesn't

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:45.720
<v Speaker 1>make any sense to me. Like that ship goes into

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 1>your lungs and into your brain, What does that have

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 1>to do with the melanin of your skin? Like, like

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 1>what is that? Like you can't you can't even take

0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess acid you can take through your skin,

0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 1>but like, it just doesn't It seems two very separate

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 1>functions too. Well yeah, okay, okay, And I looked up

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:06.480
<v Speaker 1>at a few articles, right, and there's a thing called

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>bes Benzo benz Oil, like Benzo, like ben Zo benz Oil.

0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Believe in yourself. You know you know what brother brother

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>sounded out you. You'll nail it. I'm sure that you know.

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I had a jump started my lips. I'm like man,

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 1>so like man, I can't read like this. Listen, you

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:40.480
<v Speaker 1>took a big swing. I don't say boy, You'll tell

0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 1>you when I do research. I do not say the

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:46.719
<v Speaker 1>chemicals because I don't know how to say. And you

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 1>started off by being like it's a chemical called and

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I was like, good luck, nigga, and and you still

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 1>got a chance if I just believe all y'all. Listen.

0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:58.520
<v Speaker 1>I went to a state college, and I don't sucking

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 1>like a commuter state called don't suck me all right.

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I was an art major too, so I'm not dumb

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:08.960
<v Speaker 1>as fun. Right, it's a I'll spell it uh B

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 1>E N Z O Y L E C G O

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 1>n I N E mm hmm. Yeah, that's the first name.

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 1>So saying these two elements are in melanin and in cocaine, right,

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 1>and possibly other drugs, but let's say cocaine. So when

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 1>it bonds together, it's like a link. It's like a

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Cuban link. It's like, you know what I mean, it's

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:36.479
<v Speaker 1>a it's a break class. First aunds the cuban link, right,

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 1>so it's sitting there like nothing stronger than cocaine and

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 1>melan the links, right, so it bonds together. And so

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>the more melanin you have, and I guess the more

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 1>pigmented you are. It's and also also the quality party

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 1>like learning it because the quality two of the cocaine

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 1>the uses together. And it's hard because as of what

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 1>our wider brothers they don't have it, so it's easier

0:33:58.160 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 1>for them to get off it. So it's just it's

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 1>a on it. It's like it's like basically it's like

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:03.760
<v Speaker 1>it's it's just like me like it's like when you

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 1>make a chailing fence. As she was explaining, you know

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, so and so, but it but what

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:12.279
<v Speaker 1>happens is if with more time, with more times, the

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:14.799
<v Speaker 1>guy was explaining, the teacher explaining, it takes it will

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 1>just take for it to say to how would I

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 1>say to Erode? You know what I mean? And and

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:22.240
<v Speaker 1>also they also said that I learned in the class

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:25.800
<v Speaker 1>it's about the health of the person who's ingesting to cocaine,

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:28.719
<v Speaker 1>so meaning like there's other there's other things involved, you

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. I love that you you clearly

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:33.880
<v Speaker 1>have done some research, or at least have gathered some

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 1>research from from what this professor told you. Boy is

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 1>not on board, and so I did my own research.

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe this will be a good marrying of

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:47.560
<v Speaker 1>the two conversations and potentially clarifying. Maybe you will change

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 1>your mind, Maybe Bore you'll change his mind. Maybe we'll

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 1>both or well all of us will walk away as

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 1>ignorant as we were when we started this. I love

0:34:57.600 --> 0:34:59.799
<v Speaker 1>that I need you on my side because me and

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 1>his friendship is at risk right now. You know what

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:03.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, I don't why I want you to still

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:06.760
<v Speaker 1>be friends, even if it means, uh, you disagree about

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:11.319
<v Speaker 1>where crackheads come from. You know, what you're referring to

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 1>is something that in the science world is called melanin binding.

0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 1>That's a real It is a real thing that you're

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:23.839
<v Speaker 1>describing of melanin binding. It basically means that drug distribution

0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:29.879
<v Speaker 1>and retention and pigmented ocular tissues, thereby affecting drug response,

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 1>duration of activity, and toxicity. So basically that like it

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:39.719
<v Speaker 1>has the ability to bind to melanin, not necessarily at

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 1>least in this description in skin, but specifically in like

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:49.760
<v Speaker 1>the ocular tissues and inher and then subsequently it makes

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the retention of said like drugs lasts longer and also

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:59.320
<v Speaker 1>potentially leads to toxicity because of how long it holds

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:03.799
<v Speaker 1>onto the drug that it basically be will poison that

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 1>space faster because of it holding onto the drug more.

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 1>If that makes sense. It makes sense. It's also too

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:12.360
<v Speaker 1>like when you learn it and I worked, I I

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:15.319
<v Speaker 1>worked a lot as a case manager or a social

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:17.560
<v Speaker 1>work as assistant, So you work with people who are

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:19.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, in risk right, and so i'd work in

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 1>like you know, I worked at walden House, which is

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 1>a drug rehab center and UH in San Francisco, and

0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 1>I've worked at I've worked at all like a lot

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 1>of major in Salvation Army, I worked for ECS, all

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 1>of stuff, and so I would just after learning that

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 1>and just being a young person working as a provider,

0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:39.359
<v Speaker 1>it just blew my mind because I when I would

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:41.400
<v Speaker 1>work at a when I worked at walden House, I

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:45.879
<v Speaker 1>noticed I would see black people come in right for

0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 1>like a detox, and it would just take them so

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:52.359
<v Speaker 1>much longer. And when I would go to NA meetings, right,

0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:54.120
<v Speaker 1>and I'll just like sit there and watch, you know,

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:56.799
<v Speaker 1>I would tell people's testimonials and I would just see

0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 1>somebody black people. Now this has nothing to do until

0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:01.279
<v Speaker 1>with the signs, But when I list that people's testimonials

0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:04.160
<v Speaker 1>about how hard it was for them to detach themselves

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 1>from drugs, a lot of them feel like I counted.

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Not there's a list, but I always would make notice

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:12.640
<v Speaker 1>of people talking about how hard they felt it was too,

0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 1>just the craving, you know what I mean, or how

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 1>high they're high was. And I noticed that darker people

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:22.480
<v Speaker 1>they had they just had. They would just talk about,

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:24.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, good black dope things. When they get off

0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 1>dope and they find Jesus, they'll tell you some story like, man,

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:30.279
<v Speaker 1>I was high, I was, I was, I was at

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 1>a I got, I was had for four days. Oh

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:35.480
<v Speaker 1>just listen to Earth when in fire, you know, right,

0:37:35.719 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 1>And then you would listen to white people and it

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:40.520
<v Speaker 1>would just seem like it was like they just it

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:42.320
<v Speaker 1>was as long as a music festival, you know what

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:45.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean. It was just like oh yeah, So I

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 1>think what is worth clarifying inside of this is that,

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:52.960
<v Speaker 1>at least based off of the research that I found.

0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:55.879
<v Speaker 1>There aren't a lot of studies that I saw, And

0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:58.440
<v Speaker 1>granted I didn't finish reading a lot of these motherfucker's

0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:02.880
<v Speaker 1>because there's eighty five pages for very dense science talk.

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:07.200
<v Speaker 1>But they largely deal with melanin retention in hair, follicles

0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:11.319
<v Speaker 1>and in pupils, so they're not necessarily saying that that

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:16.360
<v Speaker 1>same retention is affecting people of different races or people

0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:20.879
<v Speaker 1>of different like, uh skin tones. Right. That doesn't mean

0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:23.520
<v Speaker 1>that it isn't happening, but it is saying that like

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:26.799
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the studies are not specifically being like, yo,

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:29.799
<v Speaker 1>this is a racial issue as much as they're saying

0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:32.879
<v Speaker 1>a motherfucker with black hair is more likely to have

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:36.920
<v Speaker 1>crack in their hair longer than a person with with

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 1>blonde hair. So we uh so there was not there

0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:41.480
<v Speaker 1>having been a lot of studies about the effects of

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 1>cocaine all white people. I wonder why, Okay, I can

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:50.680
<v Speaker 1>tell by your intonation that uh that you you're being

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 1>a hotep now and I'm listening. I'm a gotep. Got

0:38:55.800 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 1>the information, you know, motherfucking complain crack master flex you Now,

0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:10.359
<v Speaker 1>I will say, in some ways, I do agree that like,

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 1>you know whatever, even if we we sort of like

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 1>are are being generous in this, there there is a

0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:23.440
<v Speaker 1>real potential benefit in not clarifying this issue for everybody,

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 1>right that, like to tell a bunch of black people

0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:29.800
<v Speaker 1>that drugs and specifically I know we're talking about cracking

0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:32.640
<v Speaker 1>cocaine inside of this, but these studies are not saying

0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:37.319
<v Speaker 1>it's strictly cracking cocaine. There are other like prescribed medications,

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of medications that are retained inside the pupils

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:44.839
<v Speaker 1>and in hair follicles, which means there's also a possibility,

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 1>if this information is true, that black skin is retaining

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 1>it more than than it's counterparts, that they are needing

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 1>to prescribe medications differently to black people than they have

0:39:57.440 --> 0:40:01.160
<v Speaker 1>been in the past. That like this egal Ryan everybody

0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 1>gets the same thing whatever whatever isn't probably real and

0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:07.879
<v Speaker 1>also would then open a bunch of people up for

0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:12.839
<v Speaker 1>malpractices and misbehaviors that aren't being addressed because you're just

0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:17.319
<v Speaker 1>assigning black people the same ship as white people, I

0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:21.640
<v Speaker 1>mean partially though. Retention is not the same as intoxication, right, No,

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:24.760
<v Speaker 1>it is, so if it's staying in your system longer.

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:27.520
<v Speaker 1>What does that have to do with like the length

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:32.160
<v Speaker 1>of time intoxicated or like it just sounds like it's like, uh,

0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like some people have have

0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:36.239
<v Speaker 1>weed in their system longer, Like does that lead to

0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:38.719
<v Speaker 1>Like to me, it doesn't seem like that would lead

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:42.279
<v Speaker 1>to like higher levels of addiction. No. I think what

0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:45.880
<v Speaker 1>they're saying is that it it does, it does control

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 1>more how it processes through your body. So like they're there.

0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:54.160
<v Speaker 1>I think the suggestion at least is that people with

0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:59.440
<v Speaker 1>the darker melanated hair or pupils will likely have less

0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 1>of the dry rug in their system over a longer

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 1>period of time, because what they're saying is like the

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:09.040
<v Speaker 1>melanin holds a bunch of it but doesn't and then

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:14.400
<v Speaker 1>releases it slowly over a longer period as opposed to

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:18.280
<v Speaker 1>sort of like this instantaneous release that you would see

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:21.239
<v Speaker 1>in white people who do the drug. And it would

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 1>make sense, David, because they ever seen old black dolphins,

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:27.520
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like you take a long

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:30.480
<v Speaker 1>time to funk our shut up? You know that's yeah,

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 1>But they do seem like it's like it's like that

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:35.319
<v Speaker 1>guy from the Lord of the rings with the ring

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:38.480
<v Speaker 1>where it gives them on naturally long life. I don't,

0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't speak nerd nigger. You know what

0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean. I'm not here, fucking you know what I mean.

0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:52.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know all that Blint Cell talking about. I'm

0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:55.040
<v Speaker 1>not I'm not hearing on the streets. You know, I

0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Listen, I'm happy that didn't happen to me.

0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:03.200
<v Speaker 1>That wasting it was really, you know what I'm saying, God,

0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:05.279
<v Speaker 1>you know here, you know you bucks? You know who

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:07.840
<v Speaker 1>you buck? You know what I mean, What the funk?

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:16.280
<v Speaker 1>That's never happened to me. Nobody's I'm trying to keep you.

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:19.360
<v Speaker 1>But we seem black though, we seem black though things

0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:22.239
<v Speaker 1>we see when they get all how they all they look, man,

0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:24.319
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, They look bad at me.

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Take a long time, a long time. It's like it's

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:29.160
<v Speaker 1>like it's like when you know when like you know,

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:32.560
<v Speaker 1>black is the only thing that makes you crack. Yeah, yeah,

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:43.480
<v Speaker 1>that in white women. I think they're both white. They're

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:51.520
<v Speaker 1>both Again, you're not gonna get me in that trap.

0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:55.480
<v Speaker 1>But I think I think one of the things that

0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 1>it did make me think about as as I was

0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 1>sort of thinking about the possibility this is a hidden

0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 1>secret right that in a world where it does sort

0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:09.440
<v Speaker 1>of it is retained in Melanin similar to what's being described.

0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:12.279
<v Speaker 1>What it makes me think of is how untrusting that

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 1>would make me feel of a white doctor now prescribing

0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:21.120
<v Speaker 1>me medication, because it's not just a question of like,

0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:25.400
<v Speaker 1>oh are you practicing for for understanding my body, but

0:43:25.440 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 1>it's also you have to have a sensitivity to to

0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:32.120
<v Speaker 1>my race, to my skin tone, to all these things

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:34.239
<v Speaker 1>that I just don't know that I could trust a

0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:38.680
<v Speaker 1>white doctor to have, right like I know they cannot.

0:43:39.040 --> 0:43:41.720
<v Speaker 1>You you can train yourself to not hate black people,

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:45.040
<v Speaker 1>but to know the differences between my version of black

0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:51.400
<v Speaker 1>versus casteems versus bories is a much messier ask for

0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 1>a a non Melanii native person, you know what I mean.

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:57.799
<v Speaker 1>And you can also see in the writing and of

0:43:57.840 --> 0:44:00.520
<v Speaker 1>all the journals have been written about melan and it's,

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:02.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, I guess, in his relationship with you know,

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:04.960
<v Speaker 1>with drugs, A lot of them have been you know,

0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 1>it's it's been a lot of black people writing about it,

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So, like, I think there

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:11.919
<v Speaker 1>is something there and and if from working in this field.

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I've talked to different people working Black people who work

0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:18.160
<v Speaker 1>in rehabilitation about this idea of like, you know about

0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:21.200
<v Speaker 1>the effects of cocaine on like melanated people, you know,

0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:24.239
<v Speaker 1>but you know the hair and skin and everything. And

0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:26.799
<v Speaker 1>I think on a guttural level, it does feel like

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:29.320
<v Speaker 1>many of them, I think many of them could say

0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I can agree there is there has to be some

0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:36.000
<v Speaker 1>sort of relationship because well, there's one drug counselor and

0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 1>men told me and this one I went to this

0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:40.800
<v Speaker 1>one workshop about the drug one workshop maybe just chopping

0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:43.839
<v Speaker 1>it up, and he just felt like beyond science just

0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:47.600
<v Speaker 1>about his observations. He just had seen so many black

0:44:47.640 --> 0:44:51.399
<v Speaker 1>people have come back to drugs, and also too, it's

0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:54.560
<v Speaker 1>just the fact of like the longer someone stayed out

0:44:55.600 --> 0:44:58.280
<v Speaker 1>off drugs, the chances of the lower. But if people

0:44:58.400 --> 0:45:00.719
<v Speaker 1>were like just came back the you months of being

0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:04.000
<v Speaker 1>all drugs, it just after a while, it just became

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:05.880
<v Speaker 1>a part of life. And I asked him, like, do

0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:08.279
<v Speaker 1>you think it's like more people who are more melanated?

0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:10.200
<v Speaker 1>What do you who do you see? Do you see

0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:12.919
<v Speaker 1>more darkstan people? Do you see more people this type

0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:14.800
<v Speaker 1>of hair type? You see it, and lots of agree.

0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:17.640
<v Speaker 1>They get started seeing get darker people. He's like those

0:45:17.719 --> 0:45:24.640
<v Speaker 1>darkies who love smoking. I can't get enough of it.

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:29.879
<v Speaker 1>And because Sin was like, yeah, yeah, that's what I learned. Yeah, yeah,

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:34.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know drugs is bad when the in

0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:35.680
<v Speaker 1>the in the in the hood, when they started making

0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 1>flavored cocaine. You know what I'm saying, Well, I do

0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:50.879
<v Speaker 1>think I want to make sure that we're being responsible

0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:54.480
<v Speaker 1>about this. I think that that while while I am

0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:58.279
<v Speaker 1>always happy to entertain the argument right that this is

0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:01.080
<v Speaker 1>this is possibly true, I think it would be unfair

0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:03.560
<v Speaker 1>not to mention that so much of what you're also

0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:09.360
<v Speaker 1>describing is rooted in culture. It's rooted in resources and

0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:13.840
<v Speaker 1>and sort of like these outside influences that have nothing

0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:16.480
<v Speaker 1>to do with the lingering crack in our system and

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:19.240
<v Speaker 1>more to do with like, if you ain't got no money,

0:46:19.320 --> 0:46:21.560
<v Speaker 1>and you ain't got no ship, and you can't really

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:24.960
<v Speaker 1>get your life together, crack is always gonna seem much

0:46:25.000 --> 0:46:28.799
<v Speaker 1>more delicious than when you can you can escape. I

0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:31.600
<v Speaker 1>don't like, I ain't never had it. It might be yummy,

0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I never had it, but the fact

0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:38.200
<v Speaker 1>when I found out they made in New York. They

0:46:38.239 --> 0:46:40.920
<v Speaker 1>got different flavor crack, you know what I mean, Like

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:45.480
<v Speaker 1>strawberry cocaine. I'm telling you, man, we innovate, you know

0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:48.640
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Like, I'm pretty sure we can we

0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:51.160
<v Speaker 1>really pretty soon it's gonna be like red velvet cocaine.

0:46:51.239 --> 0:46:56.680
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. Well, boy, I I do

0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:59.440
<v Speaker 1>want to hear your thoughts on this, because you we

0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:03.319
<v Speaker 1>weirdly on pause with Sam Jay and you'll remember this conversation.

0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:06.799
<v Speaker 1>I think you did an episode where you got into

0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:11.200
<v Speaker 1>a very lengthy argument with Sam about the possibility that

0:47:11.239 --> 0:47:15.480
<v Speaker 1>once a black person does crack, they are eventually a crackhead.

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:18.280
<v Speaker 1>There is no way for us to do crack once

0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:22.319
<v Speaker 1>without becoming crackheads. And you were very adamant against that.

0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:25.960
<v Speaker 1>You you said no, as a as a man who's

0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:31.880
<v Speaker 1>done it, I can tell you can come back. Yeah, damn,

0:47:32.480 --> 0:47:41.520
<v Speaker 1>We're just gonna my mom listening to this. I'm sorry.

0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:46.440
<v Speaker 1>All right, Well cut, you did it, you like you

0:47:46.560 --> 0:47:48.680
<v Speaker 1>like a blackmail Oprah. You did it once and look

0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:51.719
<v Speaker 1>your life got better though. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's like

0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:54.760
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't even Yeah, I mean, I just don't. I also,

0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:57.480
<v Speaker 1>if it's how come there's not crack problems in other

0:47:57.560 --> 0:47:59.480
<v Speaker 1>parts of the world like that, Like, I don't know

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:02.879
<v Speaker 1>any after crackhead like that bad I don't know about

0:48:02.920 --> 0:48:04.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm freaking crackheads. I mean, you know what I mean.

0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:07.319
<v Speaker 1>But I'm pretty sure to go that's the darkest those are,

0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:13.759
<v Speaker 1>that's the most melanie. That's where it started. Yeah, i'd

0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:16.239
<v Speaker 1>say that that's an India, but they're not going to

0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:19.200
<v Speaker 1>admit it. So crack to your roots, you know what

0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:23.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean. I think you like revolutionary for crack. You

0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:26.719
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? We started this monk. I just

0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:29.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't know, man, I I yeah, I

0:48:29.719 --> 0:48:34.000
<v Speaker 1>smoke crack. I didn't even particularly like it, like eating

0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:38.400
<v Speaker 1>at a balanced meal. Yeah, well it wasn't the strawberry

0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I just got. I got diet because like plane, this

0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:48.680
<v Speaker 1>is nasty. Yeah, you have smart, you had organic cracky.

0:48:48.920 --> 0:48:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I put some hot sauce on it. Uh no, man,

0:48:53.360 --> 0:49:00.919
<v Speaker 1>crack like no, and I'm dark as fuck. The guy

0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:03.680
<v Speaker 1>in the whole situation that I was in leading me

0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:06.080
<v Speaker 1>to do it was a friend had been doing it,

0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:09.359
<v Speaker 1>and he was a crackhead, and he is is light

0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:14.080
<v Speaker 1>as lightston. We're already upside down. M Well, I will

0:49:14.160 --> 0:49:17.799
<v Speaker 1>say that that while I am very light, While I

0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:22.319
<v Speaker 1>am very light, I do possess melanin whereas I think

0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:27.000
<v Speaker 1>the suggestion would be the unmelanated people versus melanated and

0:49:27.000 --> 0:49:29.640
<v Speaker 1>and it gets more extreme as you go along. Not

0:49:29.719 --> 0:49:33.920
<v Speaker 1>necessarily that no light skinned person can't be a crackhead.

0:49:34.360 --> 0:49:36.440
<v Speaker 1>We we can be whatever we want to be, is

0:49:36.480 --> 0:49:41.480
<v Speaker 1>what I've always said. Yeah, everybody knows that. Now now

0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:43.719
<v Speaker 1>you want to be crackheads, you're taking out from us too.

0:49:44.080 --> 0:49:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I think it looks pretty cool, and I want to

0:49:46.040 --> 0:49:52.560
<v Speaker 1>see what y'all are up to. Crackhead light but his

0:49:52.680 --> 0:49:57.520
<v Speaker 1>dick is dark, you know what I mean? Come on?

0:49:56.200 --> 0:50:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Who I like that more? You really aren't being this contrary,

0:50:05.600 --> 0:50:09.279
<v Speaker 1>like you really don't think like I just man, I

0:50:09.320 --> 0:50:11.879
<v Speaker 1>think the I think the ru. I just have known

0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:14.279
<v Speaker 1>so many drug addicts of lots of races, and I

0:50:14.280 --> 0:50:18.680
<v Speaker 1>think drug addiction is like so many factors outside of

0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:25.919
<v Speaker 1>just black people are crackheads just because we're black. That's insane.

0:50:25.920 --> 0:50:28.640
<v Speaker 1>When you put it that way, it does sound insane. Yeah,

0:50:28.680 --> 0:50:31.240
<v Speaker 1>it sounds stupid as fun. What are you talking about?

0:50:31.520 --> 0:50:34.359
<v Speaker 1>There was the heroin epidemics before that that ran through

0:50:34.360 --> 0:50:36.760
<v Speaker 1>the black community. Is so is it the same for Heroin?

0:50:36.880 --> 0:50:38.879
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't, I I don't. I don't think it's

0:50:38.960 --> 0:50:42.319
<v Speaker 1>racial based. I think it's all situation. So you think

0:50:42.480 --> 0:50:45.600
<v Speaker 1>you think the external factors are much more of a

0:50:45.600 --> 0:50:48.960
<v Speaker 1>a influence than anything that could be happening in our chemistry,

0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:55.919
<v Speaker 1>way way, way more and causine. I'm just gonna play

0:50:55.960 --> 0:50:59.440
<v Speaker 1>moderator at this point. You're you look you look as

0:50:59.480 --> 0:51:02.360
<v Speaker 1>if you have an argument back, because I'd love to

0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:05.560
<v Speaker 1>hear me so angry that's want to punch my fist

0:51:05.600 --> 0:51:09.880
<v Speaker 1>in It's like scream, whoa, You're only hurting yourself, crackhead,

0:51:09.960 --> 0:51:16.080
<v Speaker 1>So calm down, and uh you literally debate real liberal

0:51:16.120 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 1>calling people ship right now? You know what I'm saying.

0:51:20.320 --> 0:51:30.080
<v Speaker 1>It's all he's Yeah, he's doing what he does to

0:51:30.120 --> 0:51:34.520
<v Speaker 1>do best. What's the Darkey's fight back here? You don't

0:51:34.520 --> 0:51:40.560
<v Speaker 1>know my porn searches? Well you do now, Yeah, it's

0:51:40.600 --> 0:51:45.440
<v Speaker 1>my born hub looking for Darkey's fighting Darkey's wrestle until

0:51:45.520 --> 0:51:59.120
<v Speaker 1>it changes. I'm gonna rescue you like I'm gonna power

0:51:59.120 --> 0:52:02.560
<v Speaker 1>bomb in the black off. Okay here, here's what I'm

0:52:02.600 --> 0:52:06.040
<v Speaker 1>thinking about this. Okay, being the fact that they found

0:52:06.040 --> 0:52:09.480
<v Speaker 1>a bonding agent and even though there is a number

0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:11.880
<v Speaker 1>of articles that suggest there is the likelihood of this

0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:14.879
<v Speaker 1>right and also looking at how there's so many articles

0:52:14.880 --> 0:52:17.279
<v Speaker 1>have talked about how the government, but the government has

0:52:17.360 --> 0:52:20.840
<v Speaker 1>manipulated crack, and I understanding one guy I saw talked

0:52:20.840 --> 0:52:24.200
<v Speaker 1>about like how you could probably that that bonding agent within,

0:52:24.320 --> 0:52:27.080
<v Speaker 1>like you know, they manipulate drugs for certain you know,

0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:31.040
<v Speaker 1>for certain people, so you know, to make more money whatever.

0:52:31.880 --> 0:52:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Why is it impossible things that they would do that

0:52:35.320 --> 0:52:38.200
<v Speaker 1>manipulate that's so black people could become addicted to crack,

0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:40.399
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? There could be uplip an

0:52:40.400 --> 0:52:43.520
<v Speaker 1>agenda breathen you know what I'm saying. I think crack

0:52:43.680 --> 0:52:46.520
<v Speaker 1>was made. I don't think that it was. I think

0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:49.320
<v Speaker 1>it was given to the black community because of external

0:52:49.360 --> 0:52:51.719
<v Speaker 1>factors could lead to drug I don't think it was

0:52:51.800 --> 0:52:54.319
<v Speaker 1>like I don't think they literally were like this is

0:52:54.600 --> 0:52:57.840
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna get those blacks, Like there wasn't a science.

0:52:57.960 --> 0:53:01.600
<v Speaker 1>You don't, we don't you don't subscribe to the Ronald

0:53:01.640 --> 0:53:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Reagan sitting in a lab conspiracy. Everything but the lab, chemicals,

0:53:07.440 --> 0:53:11.120
<v Speaker 1>everything but everything but the lab Ronald did. But Ronald

0:53:11.200 --> 0:53:14.920
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a part of the sort of mixing of it, David, David,

0:53:15.520 --> 0:53:18.239
<v Speaker 1>it's really brother. You're gonna be on here on al

0:53:18.320 --> 0:53:22.759
<v Speaker 1>Gore's Internet, sitting here, and that's your problem right there.

0:53:22.800 --> 0:53:25.920
<v Speaker 1>You believe al Gore made the Internet. Spike Lee, I

0:53:26.000 --> 0:53:32.359
<v Speaker 1>know Spike Lee made the Internet. You really know? Because

0:53:32.400 --> 0:53:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to twisted. I think it was conspiratorial.

0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I do believe that. I just don't. I don't think

0:53:39.239 --> 0:53:42.200
<v Speaker 1>that they were like melanin. Okay, so then we take

0:53:42.239 --> 0:53:44.480
<v Speaker 1>the melanin. You know what we do. We take this cocaine,

0:53:44.719 --> 0:53:46.920
<v Speaker 1>We put a little baking powder in there, and then

0:53:46.920 --> 0:53:50.680
<v Speaker 1>they'll go. Now, I'm saying they discovered that later, Like

0:53:50.840 --> 0:53:54.400
<v Speaker 1>let's say there's a phone. They discovered that that after

0:53:54.440 --> 0:53:57.799
<v Speaker 1>they gave it to black people. Then they retroacted. Oh

0:53:57.960 --> 0:54:00.520
<v Speaker 1>that it's like a Popbya's chickens switch. You know what

0:54:00.560 --> 0:54:03.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that, you know it just like that's that's more. Yeah,

0:54:03.480 --> 0:54:06.640
<v Speaker 1>I will say that that. I always have trouble with

0:54:06.719 --> 0:54:10.520
<v Speaker 1>conspiracies that that give the government too much credit in

0:54:11.000 --> 0:54:14.239
<v Speaker 1>terms of their no how and and skill set, and

0:54:14.280 --> 0:54:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I it's much easier to believe that like, oh they

0:54:17.080 --> 0:54:20.839
<v Speaker 1>did some ship and accidentally killed some people. They were like, hey,

0:54:20.920 --> 0:54:24.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to keep killing some people. And they're like, yeah, yeah,

0:54:24.400 --> 0:54:26.879
<v Speaker 1>that's the same. That's what I'm saying. I could kill

0:54:26.920 --> 0:54:29.080
<v Speaker 1>some more people. That's what I'm saying. This one is

0:54:29.120 --> 0:54:33.520
<v Speaker 1>just too it feels too specific to me. You sounds

0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:35.440
<v Speaker 1>sad when you say that. Bro. I know, you know,

0:54:36.400 --> 0:54:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to believe. I want to believe the bro

0:54:40.719 --> 0:54:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting not tying this ship tied his podcast. You're

0:54:43.480 --> 0:54:45.840
<v Speaker 1>sitting here, Lacey, trying to give his light skin truth.

0:54:46.120 --> 0:54:48.560
<v Speaker 1>You sit up here kind of like a black repub kid,

0:54:48.560 --> 0:54:50.800
<v Speaker 1>wear your shirt button all high. And I got to

0:54:50.800 --> 0:54:53.719
<v Speaker 1>be up. I got invited on this bullshit as podcast

0:54:53.920 --> 0:54:57.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of dirty as. I don't ei this ship. You

0:54:57.640 --> 0:54:59.600
<v Speaker 1>see the funk I'm living. I don't even be doing

0:54:59.640 --> 0:55:06.759
<v Speaker 1>this ship. You do you do right now? You need this? Yeah? Yeah,

0:55:06.880 --> 0:55:18.520
<v Speaker 1>you're in it right now about cocaine. So let me

0:55:18.680 --> 0:55:21.560
<v Speaker 1>let me ask you this because because I want to

0:55:21.600 --> 0:55:24.360
<v Speaker 1>be clear again, none of the articles that I read,

0:55:24.440 --> 0:55:26.160
<v Speaker 1>and even though there were a bunch of articles that

0:55:26.239 --> 0:55:29.759
<v Speaker 1>did attempt to briefly address the racial element of it all,

0:55:30.160 --> 0:55:33.040
<v Speaker 1>but a lot of them sort of like said very

0:55:33.040 --> 0:55:38.239
<v Speaker 1>specifically that race sort of was a neutral agent in

0:55:38.280 --> 0:55:40.720
<v Speaker 1>all of this, that it wasn't. They did not believe

0:55:40.760 --> 0:55:43.600
<v Speaker 1>that statistically they could prove that black people were more

0:55:43.640 --> 0:55:49.160
<v Speaker 1>addicted to cocaine or cocaine held on longer than than

0:55:49.360 --> 0:55:54.080
<v Speaker 1>white people. That said, do you feel like this is

0:55:54.200 --> 0:55:57.520
<v Speaker 1>just like what are we meant to do with this news? Becauseine,

0:55:57.880 --> 0:56:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I truly like, is this a full thing for you?

0:56:01.000 --> 0:56:03.959
<v Speaker 1>Is this a thing where you're like, niggas are gonna die?

0:56:04.080 --> 0:56:05.920
<v Speaker 1>And that just is what it is? Like, what do

0:56:05.960 --> 0:56:08.359
<v Speaker 1>you what can we do with this? Okay? So that's

0:56:08.400 --> 0:56:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you said it, Langston, right what I'm saying.

0:56:11.800 --> 0:56:14.120
<v Speaker 1>But if nothing, I just want to help the community.

0:56:14.320 --> 0:56:17.080
<v Speaker 1>That's see it, I see I can see by yeah. Man,

0:56:17.200 --> 0:56:22.319
<v Speaker 1>God damn it. Boy. It's like, man, hey, brother, your

0:56:22.320 --> 0:56:24.040
<v Speaker 1>beer don't even connect. I know you don't believe in

0:56:24.120 --> 0:56:28.120
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. You can't connect. You can't connected together. Brother.

0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:32.920
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, it's connecting that right, he

0:56:33.040 --> 0:56:36.800
<v Speaker 1>got it? Six summers. Here's what I'm talking about because

0:56:36.840 --> 0:56:39.239
<v Speaker 1>I've worked as a provider. It's like when we talk

0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:41.560
<v Speaker 1>to people, especially in the black holest of hells, people

0:56:42.040 --> 0:56:45.600
<v Speaker 1>drug rehab. The idea is like this the way you

0:56:45.600 --> 0:56:47.759
<v Speaker 1>can work from the top down to all the way

0:56:47.760 --> 0:56:51.040
<v Speaker 1>down to like the ground floor. The people who are

0:56:51.360 --> 0:56:54.000
<v Speaker 1>like on the front lines. Is that it seems it

0:56:54.040 --> 0:56:56.160
<v Speaker 1>would thinks like who is the you know, when you

0:56:56.160 --> 0:56:58.680
<v Speaker 1>look at all you see there's so many there are

0:56:58.680 --> 0:57:02.520
<v Speaker 1>there are tons of black people right on addictive drugs,

0:57:02.600 --> 0:57:04.160
<v Speaker 1>right and when you look at like and trying to

0:57:04.640 --> 0:57:06.839
<v Speaker 1>improve our communities, we have a lot of people are

0:57:06.840 --> 0:57:09.719
<v Speaker 1>making in res choices maney of their drugs. Right. So

0:57:10.120 --> 0:57:11.640
<v Speaker 1>looking at the fact of that when I talked to

0:57:11.680 --> 0:57:15.239
<v Speaker 1>some black people about this is like there is a

0:57:15.640 --> 0:57:18.080
<v Speaker 1>there's a growing number of black people. A last I

0:57:18.160 --> 0:57:21.200
<v Speaker 1>talked to who would like to start focusing have a

0:57:21.240 --> 0:57:24.959
<v Speaker 1>more I'll have a stronger focus on talking to black

0:57:25.000 --> 0:57:28.280
<v Speaker 1>people about what it is about? Why is it that

0:57:28.360 --> 0:57:31.200
<v Speaker 1>we have a high rate recidivism or we have a

0:57:31.280 --> 0:57:34.240
<v Speaker 1>high rate of entry into drug programs? And what is

0:57:34.280 --> 0:57:36.320
<v Speaker 1>it about? Why is it we were able to why

0:57:36.400 --> 0:57:38.919
<v Speaker 1>is it we're having a hard time shaking this? And

0:57:39.080 --> 0:57:41.840
<v Speaker 1>with that, some people have told me is something that

0:57:41.880 --> 0:57:44.960
<v Speaker 1>they can't feel like they can talk about this with

0:57:45.040 --> 0:57:48.360
<v Speaker 1>the you know, the masses. Uh, you know what I'm saying,

0:57:48.560 --> 0:57:52.280
<v Speaker 1>and and so it has to be more further research

0:57:52.480 --> 0:57:55.600
<v Speaker 1>because there's just a lack of understanding. But as also too,

0:57:55.840 --> 0:57:58.479
<v Speaker 1>is that they need more black people that have that

0:57:58.520 --> 0:58:01.120
<v Speaker 1>have to be talking about this because it's sin strength

0:58:01.120 --> 0:58:04.000
<v Speaker 1>of numbers. So you understanding to make this concern, you know,

0:58:04.000 --> 0:58:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I have to make this to make the argument to

0:58:06.200 --> 0:58:10.240
<v Speaker 1>get more to have more discussion about it, because it's

0:58:10.280 --> 0:58:12.880
<v Speaker 1>just too consistent if it was like one or two

0:58:12.960 --> 0:58:15.800
<v Speaker 1>articles every ten years or something like that, but it's

0:58:15.840 --> 0:58:18.600
<v Speaker 1>something that many people could It's it's every year there's

0:58:18.600 --> 0:58:21.480
<v Speaker 1>an article, more, multiple articles talking about this. So if

0:58:21.480 --> 0:58:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm if I'm hearing you correctly, I think it sounds

0:58:24.320 --> 0:58:26.840
<v Speaker 1>like you would love for this to to get to

0:58:26.880 --> 0:58:31.680
<v Speaker 1>the point where action has to be taken because this

0:58:31.760 --> 0:58:35.560
<v Speaker 1>is too large of a concern, whereas right now we

0:58:35.600 --> 0:58:39.400
<v Speaker 1>don't even know to have the conversation and therefore are

0:58:39.520 --> 0:58:42.840
<v Speaker 1>not the conversation is not being had. Yeah, because it's

0:58:42.840 --> 0:58:45.560
<v Speaker 1>like we're we're hitting our head, we're hitting out against

0:58:45.560 --> 0:58:47.360
<v Speaker 1>the wall all the time, and when you're on the

0:58:47.360 --> 0:58:49.440
<v Speaker 1>front lines, you're seeing all these black people and it's

0:58:49.440 --> 0:58:52.040
<v Speaker 1>just increasing numbers. Dude, I live in San Francisco when

0:58:52.160 --> 0:58:55.840
<v Speaker 1>is like it's like twenty black people here and votine

0:58:55.840 --> 0:58:57.520
<v Speaker 1>on drugs, you know what I'm saying. And it's like

0:58:57.560 --> 0:58:59.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying of seeing the same flotin when the fun

0:58:59.560 --> 0:59:01.439
<v Speaker 1>is on drugs and a hard time. So there has

0:59:01.440 --> 0:59:05.000
<v Speaker 1>to be discussion also to on a on a gutter level,

0:59:05.360 --> 0:59:08.640
<v Speaker 1>black crack teas are annoying. I'm tired of seeing this ship, dog,

0:59:08.800 --> 0:59:11.000
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. We're in the same Jordan

0:59:11.080 --> 0:59:16.200
<v Speaker 1>threes running around dancing, picking a feet, going crazy, making

0:59:16.200 --> 0:59:18.480
<v Speaker 1>white people happy, doing all the types of ship. We

0:59:18.520 --> 0:59:20.320
<v Speaker 1>need to get these black people on drugs and get

0:59:20.360 --> 0:59:23.560
<v Speaker 1>these white people on drugs. And I was saying, see,

0:59:23.720 --> 0:59:27.080
<v Speaker 1>that's the first thing I agreed with all you drug

0:59:27.120 --> 0:59:29.960
<v Speaker 1>dealers listen to this podcast, So drugs the white people,

0:59:30.040 --> 0:59:34.200
<v Speaker 1>dog and saying get these future and I ain't playing.

0:59:34.680 --> 0:59:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Here's what I'll tell you. I don't know how you

0:59:36.640 --> 0:59:39.120
<v Speaker 1>knew who are sponsors were this episode, but it is

0:59:39.200 --> 0:59:48.120
<v Speaker 1>drug dealer selling the white people, that is. But honestly,

0:59:48.200 --> 0:59:50.320
<v Speaker 1>they're just see because we're running, we're running. I mean,

0:59:50.400 --> 0:59:52.160
<v Speaker 1>it's just the fact that like when I talked to

0:59:52.240 --> 0:59:55.480
<v Speaker 1>providers and I talked to drug counsels Black. It's just

0:59:55.640 --> 0:59:59.360
<v Speaker 1>the fact that there it is plausible to think there

0:59:59.360 --> 1:00:02.920
<v Speaker 1>has to be something biological now why, you know, especially

1:00:02.960 --> 1:00:05.040
<v Speaker 1>with you know, with the when when it was discovered,

1:00:05.320 --> 1:00:09.080
<v Speaker 1>and because once again it's just that you hear the

1:00:09.120 --> 1:00:12.320
<v Speaker 1>testimony was of Basteran Americans on drugs, and it's just

1:00:12.360 --> 1:00:15.360
<v Speaker 1>the fact that they it's they just can't understand how

1:00:15.440 --> 1:00:17.600
<v Speaker 1>they can't shake it, you know what I mean? And

1:00:17.640 --> 1:00:19.680
<v Speaker 1>if and if tested about the effect is actually a

1:00:19.680 --> 1:00:24.600
<v Speaker 1>pretty compelling argument. Well, here's what I'll say. I was having, ah,

1:00:25.280 --> 1:00:28.360
<v Speaker 1>I was having a conversation with a cousin this past

1:00:28.400 --> 1:00:32.240
<v Speaker 1>weekend who works in sort of like medical health, specifically

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<v Speaker 1>in helping people kick their drug habits, or at least

1:00:36.600 --> 1:00:40.280
<v Speaker 1>figure out ways to find solutions inside of those drug habits,

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<v Speaker 1>be that giving them a clean equipment and and paraphernalia

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<v Speaker 1>for drugs, or even giving them a small, manageable enough

1:00:49.680 --> 1:00:52.240
<v Speaker 1>dose of the drug that they're doing. And one of

1:00:52.280 --> 1:00:54.800
<v Speaker 1>the things that it's sort of ultimately landed on was

1:00:55.360 --> 1:00:58.600
<v Speaker 1>the argument that in truth, we should be legalizing all

1:00:58.640 --> 1:01:01.880
<v Speaker 1>of these things in part because people are more likely

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<v Speaker 1>to do a manageable amount of the drug if it's

1:01:05.800 --> 1:01:10.560
<v Speaker 1>legal and streets safe and clean, as opposed to if

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, I gotta do a fuck ton right now,

1:01:13.200 --> 1:01:16.040
<v Speaker 1>because I don't know when I'm gonna get my hands

1:01:16.080 --> 1:01:18.400
<v Speaker 1>on this ship again. If this is like something I

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<v Speaker 1>have to work hard for to access, then I'm gonna

1:01:21.880 --> 1:01:24.360
<v Speaker 1>do too much of it and likely hurt myself. Whereas

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<v Speaker 1>if you just make the ship legal, motherfucker's are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do the exact melanin amount that they need and avoid

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<v Speaker 1>the overdoses, avoid sort of the crack heads ish behavior

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<v Speaker 1>that you might see when it's illegal. Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we need to put cracking out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't want to crack dispensary, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. Yeah, Man, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>see Jim. I don't want to see Jim Jones from

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<v Speaker 1>dip set having his own kind of crack, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, hey, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not here. You know. I think you're gonna see

1:02:00.200 --> 1:02:04.320
<v Speaker 1>much much more functional crackheads than what we've seen. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's not It's not just gonna be a

1:02:07.080 --> 1:02:09.680
<v Speaker 1>crackhead mowing your lawn it's gonna be a crackhead with

1:02:09.760 --> 1:02:12.640
<v Speaker 1>a lawn mowing business, and that I don't think that

1:02:12.720 --> 1:02:18.840
<v Speaker 1>they're different. So they becoming like man C. J. Walker,

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, like samous and they're gonna name the super Silker.

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<v Speaker 1>I fully and I can fully see it. I see

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<v Speaker 1>a crackhead being like I invented the hot comb and

1:02:30.280 --> 1:02:33.040
<v Speaker 1>we're like, hey, man, we already did that. He's like, nah,

1:02:33.320 --> 1:02:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I did it again. You know, you know what. They

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<v Speaker 1>have image Awards and at least honor like a black

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<v Speaker 1>person doing something really major, and like, yeah, I I'm

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<v Speaker 1>John Cheetle and today we're honoring Courtney Bang bang Johnson. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he revolutionized crack fives Like, yeah, I don't. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are not believing in the in the potential

1:02:58.160 --> 1:03:01.120
<v Speaker 1>of the humans were from. Alright, alright, this is a

1:03:01.160 --> 1:03:05.280
<v Speaker 1>crazy episode. You're talking about legal crack right now, that's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, brother, alright, already, we all we all on

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<v Speaker 1>some form of Hollywood. I'm on the lowest end. Already,

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<v Speaker 1>gotta already gotta pitch ready Crack to the Future. Crack

1:03:15.680 --> 1:03:20.320
<v Speaker 1>to the Future. All right, it's a catchy title. Tell

1:03:20.360 --> 1:03:24.560
<v Speaker 1>me the characters alright, alright, alright, alright, all right, I'm

1:03:24.600 --> 1:03:27.439
<v Speaker 1>saying I'm already you know, you know, even the pitch

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<v Speaker 1>meetings next to the water, you know, and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>so alright, check it right, It's like the wire meets

1:03:33.680 --> 1:03:35.800
<v Speaker 1>back to the future. Right, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Marty McFly played by DC young Fly. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, he'd come up with some old niggas, right,

1:03:42.840 --> 1:03:46.360
<v Speaker 1>old old nigga, old drug nigger, right, comes up with

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<v Speaker 1>this new form of crack. It's a new kind of

1:03:49.160 --> 1:03:52.960
<v Speaker 1>crack that can propel, that lengthens your life, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, right right, like, and it's and it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably some kind of crack that can right. I figured like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is you know what I'm saying. I don't like, man, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I hate that I have to be the

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<v Speaker 1>one to say this crack. He's bad. It's so so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think any of the arguments for legalization are

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<v Speaker 1>suggesting that it isn't bad. You just said, smoke crack

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<v Speaker 1>and start a business. It's like, it's not. It's not

1:04:26.880 --> 1:04:31.240
<v Speaker 1>a saying it's not I'm saying, if you smoke crack,

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<v Speaker 1>you can still start a business. I think that's closer

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<v Speaker 1>to to my vision for the America we live in.

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<v Speaker 1>How we got to get on a marketing campaign to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that you know, like crack his whack. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. We gotta get them crackings. We

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get the crack his Whack shirt to back out.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, remember them. Everybody knows crack.

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<v Speaker 1>This is crazy what's happening. But see, I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>missing it. I think it's it's crack is whack. If

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<v Speaker 1>it's illegal, let's make it legal so it can be

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<v Speaker 1>fun again. That should all be on the ship business. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>let's make let's make crack fun again. Who are we

1:05:13.400 --> 1:05:15.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna get Supreme behind it or something? When we got

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<v Speaker 1>to we're gonna do like a two from one. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing it. We're gonna do a prat Friday ideals.

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<v Speaker 1>I listen, it sounds like you're on the marketing team already.

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<v Speaker 1>I I think there are there's a lot of potential

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<v Speaker 1>for drug legalization that that grey doesn't see. It can't

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<v Speaker 1>be big l it can't be crack. We were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about crack. We can't have Dad crack running around here.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. And like other boy, you

1:05:41.960 --> 1:05:46.440
<v Speaker 1>you've made it past the hump. If we're talking about crack,

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<v Speaker 1>then let's let's open our hearts to what crack can be.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a hero. I made it pass them God through

1:05:55.840 --> 1:05:58.680
<v Speaker 1>the bushes of God. I'm standing to think about this. No,

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<v Speaker 1>this is no waiting. No wait, wait, open your mind, brother, Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, hold on, hold on now. Now, we always

1:06:04.360 --> 1:06:07.720
<v Speaker 1>talk about black business. You know what I'm saying, revitalizing

1:06:07.760 --> 1:06:12.439
<v Speaker 1>the community, investing in the community. And what's bigger. What's

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest industry in the black community? Drugs? Hair care products?

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<v Speaker 1>But I think both are correct. I don't know. Well, brother,

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<v Speaker 1>let's put the crack in the hair care. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Like, I mean, you can only do

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<v Speaker 1>that if it's legal. You can only None of those

1:06:31.040 --> 1:06:34.840
<v Speaker 1>businesses can be imagined until it's legal for everybody. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you might be you, I think you really

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<v Speaker 1>onto some of your legs. Then yeah, I have no

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<v Speaker 1>doubt because seem I I know this, This is perfect logic. Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about to do this. I'm about to be I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not to figure to legalized crap I'm not to go

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<v Speaker 1>on earn your leisure and trying to figure this out

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<v Speaker 1>and like get like Dame dash forgot some angel investors

1:06:56.400 --> 1:06:59.920
<v Speaker 1>get maybe like the legalized crap. Because they legalized mushrooms,

1:07:00.000 --> 1:07:02.800
<v Speaker 1>they legalize this some crack would in some kind of

1:07:02.840 --> 1:07:05.760
<v Speaker 1>way that would probably on the chat on the on

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<v Speaker 1>the that would be up there is there a way

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<v Speaker 1>we can do this to legalize crack, like a like

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<v Speaker 1>a healthier way of smoking crack. I believe in you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I will vote in your favor if if you're

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<v Speaker 1>on the docket, if if this ends up being the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that you you champion. Basically I'm gonna be herschel

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<v Speaker 1>Walker meets marian Berry, right, Hey, that's your problem, herschel

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<v Speaker 1>Berry out here. They don't trust me in hotel rooms.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll just blame it on CTV, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it well, because same bed. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think we've we covered this. I I bory. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure if you feel as satisfied as you would like.

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<v Speaker 1>You seem disappointed with the way that this is the

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<v Speaker 1>crack by smoke and he's still smoker. That's why he

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<v Speaker 1>lived to Denver. You know. Stuff it heavy d heavy Denver.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want this to end with us being like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's legalize crack. Well, I don't think it's a let's

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<v Speaker 1>U or us as much as it is. Me and

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<v Speaker 1>half of Cassine are now playing this game, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're a hard not on it. So so it's up

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<v Speaker 1>for grabs. Listeners at home. If whoever seems more reasonable

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<v Speaker 1>to you, you go with it. I don't know, we're not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not for us to decide. We're not gonna besides Cassine,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna campaign for it either way. No, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>he mean Christmas is coming up, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Get get that, Get your lady that fine crack rocks

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<v Speaker 1>that you've been eyeballing outside the Macy's window. Don't get

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<v Speaker 1>her debtil far back. No, there's a gentleman in the

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<v Speaker 1>Macy's bathroom if you knock a certain way, and it'll

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<v Speaker 1>get you exactly what your lady means the same because

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<v Speaker 1>you tell the people at home where where they can

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<v Speaker 1>find you on? What cool ship you have going? Yeah? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah you can find me on a social media

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<v Speaker 1>Casine Bentley all right as K S E M B

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<v Speaker 1>E N T l E. Y can also find White

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<v Speaker 1>Slavery on podcasts on all your streaming devices and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, hit me on that cash shop. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. You know you never hear that ship works.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit me a Cassine Bentley on the cash app, Brather,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm selling crack mail. You know what I'm saying. All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>follow Cassine and then hit him on that cash app

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<v Speaker 1>because he's selling crack. And Bori, where can they find you?

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<v Speaker 1>The sandwiches? Cool guy joke? He in on Instagram December

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<v Speaker 1>in Las Vegas. I'm gonna be at the Jimmy Kimmel Comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd be so lucky to so crack at the Jimmy Kimmel. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>some flap legs I stole from the buffet that you

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<v Speaker 1>only sounds so sad when you talk about your dates.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what I'm like that Are you out here? Dude?

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<v Speaker 1>I am out here? No, I think he I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's only certain dates where he's outsid. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that Vegas one always said some a very specific way.

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<v Speaker 1>But but I want to be in here and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't be out here anymore. Please go follow Bori and

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<v Speaker 1>and go see him at the Jimmy Kimmel uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's always you can follow me at Langston Kerman. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to hear from you. And if you have

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<v Speaker 1>your own conspiracy theories, your own drops, if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a solution for our struggling black crackheads, please send those

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<v Speaker 1>theories to my mama pot at gmail dot com. We

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<v Speaker 1>would love to hear from you. And that's about it,

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<v Speaker 1>by bitch and I playing Noogle because of the broad

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<v Speaker 1>babies my crop chips in your hands, Uncoala bears are racist.

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<v Speaker 1>The olschool player for ost the money r. She's in

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<v Speaker 1>many turnkey stuff. I can't tell me