Speaker 1: You know, just your struggled. When I mentioned you was
Speaker 1: like you was in between like an at risk youth
Speaker 1: and an at risk of dope. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You was like you was like a homeless DayWalker. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I think I saw you one
Speaker 1: time eat a cigarette, you know, open at open. All right,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, it was mental. He was doing it
Speaker 1: for the taste and the coundar you the tip, you know,
Speaker 1: because my chips in your means bankers, racist, the host players,
Speaker 1: money stuff. I can't tell me bang bang bang skeet
Speaker 1: skeet skeet. There it is there, it is. Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me,
Speaker 1: the podcast where we dine deep into the pockets of
Speaker 1: black conspiracy theories and we finally work to prove that
Speaker 1: Zoe Sell Donna is the greatest black face artist of time.
Speaker 1: Name an instance, name a single instance of black face
Speaker 1: that has brought the world more universal joy than Zoe
Speaker 1: Sell Donna in black face. I dare you anybody volunteering
Speaker 1: That lady has brought us hours and hours of laughs
Speaker 1: and memes, and we should be thanking her for putting
Speaker 1: that black face on not shaming her. She's a She's
Speaker 1: a hero in my book. She's a goddamn goddess. I'm
Speaker 1: Langston Kerman. I'm confused. You don't remember when Zoe put
Speaker 1: on black face. No, I don't know what you're talking
Speaker 1: about at all. Zoe's out down, and I love that
Speaker 1: you don't know this. Zoe's out down. At one point
Speaker 1: was cast to play Nina Simone in the biopic biopic.
Speaker 1: It's not It's not how I first pronounced it, for sure.
Speaker 1: Uh either way, Zoe's out down. It was Nina Simone.
Speaker 1: They shot the whole motherfucker. I think it's available. I'm
Speaker 1: not a sure if they ever released it. But look
Speaker 1: up Zoe sat down in black face that you will
Speaker 1: be stunned to see her the same color as you
Speaker 1: and dead serious about it. Oh no, I see I did.
Speaker 1: Oh no, Zoe. You Nina would be so upset. Uh
Speaker 1: be serious? This light skin. She a woman who spent
Speaker 1: her entire career just trying to be proud of her
Speaker 1: beautiful black skin and be appreciated for for the gifts
Speaker 1: she was bringing to the black community, is then being mocked.
Speaker 1: But a woman who was exclusively fucked white men on camera,
Speaker 1: almost purely, I would say in life as well. You
Speaker 1: know what's crazy to me is I didn't know. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I thought this was against the rules. This is black
Speaker 1: face inception. I didn't. That's that deep black that's watching
Speaker 1: the Watchman. I don't like it because this precedent means
Speaker 1: now rappers can do it. Yeah, this is so so bad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like when you think you're about to have a
Speaker 1: chocolate cake but it's a butterscotch on the inside and
Speaker 1: you're like, what the fuck, But there's more chocolate on
Speaker 1: the inside, so yeah, it's just chocolate being like I
Speaker 1: wish I would scotch too. Oh no, Zoe, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: bet you. It was pretty good back she seems like
Speaker 1: she would be a bad Nina Simone. That's also what's
Speaker 1: stunning about the Chows is it's not like they picked
Speaker 1: the best singer or like the most talented personality. It
Speaker 1: was truly like, no, we just we like her. We're
Speaker 1: gonna do that. I feel like to be play Nina Simone.
Speaker 1: You someone has to have called you nigger with heart?
Speaker 1: Is that that's like I know that sounds that sounds crazy,
Speaker 1: but you know, what I know. I think that's a
Speaker 1: hundred percent. It has to be a really it has
Speaker 1: to be really earned, like you have to know how
Speaker 1: hot fish grease gets. Yeah, this is this is maybe
Speaker 1: as close to asking me to play like Jiman Hansu,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like this is would you
Speaker 1: black face for a room? Would I black face for
Speaker 1: a role? If they were like, hey, Langston, the Terry
Speaker 1: Cruise biopic is coming out. Oh, I would black face
Speaker 1: for the Terry Cruise bio bio gas? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: That's the that would truly I would retire off of
Speaker 1: the Terry Crews biopic. Mew and black face popping my titties?
Speaker 1: Come on, bro dancing that you're telling me that's not
Speaker 1: the funniest movie to ever exist. Yeah, I would really
Speaker 1: like it. That would be so fucking good that I
Speaker 1: guess what we found is that I like light skin
Speaker 1: black face. Yeah, I think I think honestly, if you
Speaker 1: want to be a pioneer, you'll do some light skin face.
Speaker 1: And see, I don't think it works that we can
Speaker 1: pay and I just look Panamanian just like you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't reverse engineering. Yeah, come on, man, Heavy Heavy
Speaker 1: D has got a whole career that has. You're telling
Speaker 1: me you wouldn't play heavy d we're doing. I would,
Speaker 1: I would pay them. I don't feel like I don't
Speaker 1: feel like Lee Daniels. You gotta Lee Daniels, please, man,
Speaker 1: I ain't never asked you for nothing, Lee Daniels. Damn,
Speaker 1: come on at Lee's like, damn, you don't. You don't
Speaker 1: ask me for nothing, man, come on, And then I
Speaker 1: just started doing now that we but we're gonna do, man,
Speaker 1: that would be amazing. Come on, man, that guy was.
Speaker 1: He was fat and wearing like green leather. Do you
Speaker 1: know he was gorgeous? He was. He was fucking gorgeous
Speaker 1: and so proud to be fat. That was. He was
Speaker 1: never sweaty, which is how you know it was Hollywood magic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sweating in this hot ass hat right now. I
Speaker 1: got a fan over. He had zip lock bags of
Speaker 1: ice just take to his skin, just under his shirt.
Speaker 1: It was like he wouldn't even secretly. He wasn't even
Speaker 1: that attic heavy. It was just like that ice. It
Speaker 1: was all that ice to cool him down because he
Speaker 1: never not one time. You never saw that guy because
Speaker 1: you know how other facts like there's pictures where they
Speaker 1: caught Big out of pocket and he's like sweatiest out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no heavy sweaty D. Sweaty heavy sweat heavy sweaty D.
Speaker 1: That's me ye heavy No oh man, wait you say it.
Speaker 1: If you guys something to tell, just send them back.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just thinking, it's like I've been coming in, coming,
Speaker 1: coming in. We'll it will. It's a skin bleach his
Speaker 1: whole face. Seen that the whole process. So you don't
Speaker 1: be sweaty D Mann. You learn the dance steps and
Speaker 1: you gotta get the bags eye. Which is really funny
Speaker 1: because I'm thinking I'm blowing away to back like Heavy D.
Speaker 1: I never saw him sweat because like like I'm I
Speaker 1: keep real it's hard to be as fat as us
Speaker 1: and not sweat. It is like a miracle. Like one
Speaker 1: time I went to a taping for Guy Brandam that
Speaker 1: like you could freeze meat in that studio. It was
Speaker 1: it was degrees and it was a side of rocky
Speaker 1: beef like like so that the Heavy D didn't sweat,
Speaker 1: could dance and had a fucked up I motherfucker I
Speaker 1: he had he had come, man, he had a fatty walk.
Speaker 1: He had a heavy up. It wasn't that. It wasn't
Speaker 1: that milky. It was milky bro. Yeah. I thought he
Speaker 1: had more of a music soul child going on. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that. It was like fatty WAPs is a
Speaker 1: full like ain't nothing in that hole. Somebody shot d
Speaker 1: in the eye. You know. It was like that. The
Speaker 1: D was for dope and it was a bad dope,
Speaker 1: no heavy, and he bagged so many that Veronica Webb. Yeah. Also,
Speaker 1: I don't know if this troupe, but somebody said he
Speaker 1: oh he went on a day with Howie barry Man.
Speaker 1: Damn dam can. I don't doubt that for a second.
Speaker 1: I would have sex with heavy D. That man was.
Speaker 1: He was smoothest, smoothest, goddamn fat silk. I don't know
Speaker 1: what what what the equivalent is, but fat silk was
Speaker 1: for dick, you know what I mean. Don't signed He
Speaker 1: signed his tack with his dick. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Heavy heavy dick. He was just right heavy dick here
Speaker 1: here and here and h That was like the only
Speaker 1: rapper I saw growing the black one who didn't like rap.
Speaker 1: They liked heavy d. Yeah, he was. He was so
Speaker 1: fun man. That was my favorite rapper. Growing up like
Speaker 1: this good act. This my fucker gets it good in life,
Speaker 1: in life and no blastes. He had no glasses on
Speaker 1: in life you barely knew he was. He really had
Speaker 1: it man. Yeah, well, we can't keep memorializing Heavy D
Speaker 1: for the rest of this episode. We got other fat
Speaker 1: rappers we can talk about. Yeah, what what a fun
Speaker 1: journey to begin with, and we haven't even introduced our guests.
Speaker 1: He's he's a hilarious comedian. You've already heard his voice
Speaker 1: you and we haven't even introduced our co host. I think, uh, frankly,
Speaker 1: I think you were just confused and never in fact
Speaker 1: said your name. But I'm yeah, go ahead, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: Heavy D. David boy is silent, No Avid Borri, It's
Speaker 1: just Heavy D from now on. Somebody's got to pick
Speaker 1: up the mantel. It's like, it's like, how there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a different black panther now and you gotta you know,
Speaker 1: there's a there's a new Heavy D in town. And yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a new Heavy D in town. This one's a girl.
Speaker 1: We are today, No, we are Freddy all right, I'll
Speaker 1: say this, I'm not disagreeing with you, but I am
Speaker 1: moving on. You got a damn he smooth both now
Speaker 1: our guests today, hilarious comedian. We're so happy he's here.
Speaker 1: He is a a podcast, a a podcast that a
Speaker 1: returning podcast. If I'm understanding correctly that it is hilarious
Speaker 1: as fuck. You know him, you love him. It's it's
Speaker 1: called White Slavery. It's coming back out December fift Give
Speaker 1: it up for Cassim Bentley. Something's go. You understand this
Speaker 1: is Kransa come early. You know what I'm saying that
Speaker 1: you're gonna get twenty more downloads this one. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, this one? You know you hear that, David,
Speaker 1: We're doubling our downloads. This is very exciting. Watch out
Speaker 1: this American life. You know, we're We're really excited. You're here.
Speaker 1: And you came. You you've been a fan of the show.
Speaker 1: I I know you've you've watched a lot of or
Speaker 1: rather listen to a bunch of the episodes. And you
Speaker 1: came to David specifically with the conspiracy theory that when
Speaker 1: he shared it with us, we were like, hell, yeah,
Speaker 1: we gotta get Cassism on immediately, because this is something,
Speaker 1: at least personally I had never heard although we've had
Speaker 1: weird debates about it in the past, but it was
Speaker 1: not something I'd ever heard genuinely pitched as like a
Speaker 1: sincere argument. But more importantly, it's one that I think
Speaker 1: is gonna bring. It's gonna be spicy. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a spicy episode. You said, my mama told me black
Speaker 1: crack addicts are more wild than white crack addicts. Yeah. Look,
Speaker 1: if you hate cops just because the cops, the next
Speaker 1: time you get in trouble, call it crackhead. That's right now,
Speaker 1: you say stuff, you know, and it's a stupid ass comment.
Speaker 1: Because crackheads on the phone, dog, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If they do, they got an Obama phone the only
Speaker 1: last two weeks, you know what I mean. That's guys problem.
Speaker 1: The cracks girl to crack his girlfriend has the phone,
Speaker 1: you know, or like they're high functioning brother and or sister.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, or the guilty mom who feels that she
Speaker 1: was responsible. Right, he's on the fucking pooky yeah, you like,
Speaker 1: he can't he can't live in the house anymore, but
Speaker 1: he still uses my phone. You can't find him on
Speaker 1: the phone. You can just go to his mama's basement,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Just like he's somebody worried
Speaker 1: about him. He needs a phone. You've got to give
Speaker 1: him your phone. You guys, just go find his case manager,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You'll find you'll you'll working out,
Speaker 1: you know, And let me ask you this, tell me
Speaker 1: specifically about this conspiracy. Where does this come from? Here's
Speaker 1: what Here's what happened when I was I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't the boy was alive night five, but but
Speaker 1: it was like a little baby in Africa, like I was.
Speaker 1: I was making phones, making phone kidding diamonds off the
Speaker 1: diamond mine, you know, there taking phones and sell each other's.
Speaker 1: He brings them back the week. So he's sitting there
Speaker 1: and that came up a airplane. Right. So I'm in
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm not a Black Studies miner, but I
Speaker 1: would take a lot of Black studies, right. So in
Speaker 1: this class about Melani, because it was just like it
Speaker 1: was just it was just really interesting. Right. So in
Speaker 1: this class, and I don't know the teacher's name, but
Speaker 1: she was one of them professors that like was mixed.
Speaker 1: But she looked like like she looked like that lady
Speaker 1: who recently lost she's a Republican, but she's white, but
Speaker 1: she we thought she was black. The story broke like
Speaker 1: a week or two ago. I don't even remember in Arizona.
Speaker 1: You mean, yeah, she looked like her yeah, when they're
Speaker 1: like when you do the way back photos, and like
Speaker 1: her hair was like curly, but it was still kind
Speaker 1: of wavy white. And so when she let us know
Speaker 1: she was she was one of the people that was
Speaker 1: like that kind of black where she's like, she don't
Speaker 1: she looks kind of black, like like a hologram. She
Speaker 1: had this like racial hologram. Right at one angle, she
Speaker 1: was Puerto Rican, but then if you look at six degrees,
Speaker 1: she would kind of gets like a bleached out and Jerian,
Speaker 1: you know what it's like. So she hit us one
Speaker 1: day with this thing. I forgive the classes called it
Speaker 1: couses about melanin, but that when she hit us with
Speaker 1: this one thing, it was it blew us all away
Speaker 1: because she had she had brought the video from this
Speaker 1: one professor. It was making all this waves, uh in
Speaker 1: the night, he's about melanin, and she said that one
Speaker 1: of the problems that it has some melanin is that
Speaker 1: it had a can attach itself to certain drugs namily cocaine,
Speaker 1: because there's like there are certain bonding agents that will
Speaker 1: that are they're founding. It was just a discovery, said
Speaker 1: found a melanin so meaning like the darker that you are.
Speaker 1: And also they had to deal with your hair to
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it was just like
Speaker 1: I don't know, like the more courser curly whatever. But
Speaker 1: they said with melanie, they said that they found it
Speaker 1: that the darker you were right on the deck, the
Speaker 1: darker the pigment would lack itself on and in hard
Speaker 1: time separating itself. So the guy was sterizing. That is
Speaker 1: why you see he was making a moving trying to
Speaker 1: help making sure that black people should gain more. The
Speaker 1: more fund there's more attention, there should be more of
Speaker 1: a concern of getting black people off this. And he's
Speaker 1: trying to make sure that the people in the community
Speaker 1: understand I mean this um terms like drug treatment, you know,
Speaker 1: even to the government understanding that this it's it was
Speaker 1: just groundbreaking discovery. And when we heard it, you know,
Speaker 1: like when black people here's something so funny and they
Speaker 1: can start running away, you know what I mean, comedy Jack,
Speaker 1: when everyone's like, oh, it was like any of us
Speaker 1: in this class. It was all different times of black people.
Speaker 1: And there was an old black lady. I think she's
Speaker 1: like a hundred and two, and it was like young
Speaker 1: people like me. We all went. We all had our
Speaker 1: hands in our head, our hands and our afros in
Speaker 1: our dress. We was like what and she's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why you when you see it, it's harder for
Speaker 1: black people to get off drugs. And we all were
Speaker 1: just like frozen, and it was just why white doing
Speaker 1: the class? I think it was taking copious notes. I
Speaker 1: feel like we're for the government. Right. He's like sitting there,
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna see. It was like they found
Speaker 1: out right, and that he never he never came back
Speaker 1: to the class. That he came one more class and
Speaker 1: then dipped down. He probably look a senator somewhere, right.
Speaker 1: It's like geving me some day. He was just writing
Speaker 1: in a notebook, gonna have to kill this light skinned
Speaker 1: bitch to the lou boys. But the teacher, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to find out. I wish I would have found
Speaker 1: a day that teacher she dropped it because she would
Speaker 1: have had a microphone. She would have been like Chappelle
Speaker 1: because dropped it like that's right, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: like Chris Rockets dropping at the end of the set
Speaker 1: because she dropped a fucking bomb on us. Bro Okay,
Speaker 1: So so she says this to you, are you guys
Speaker 1: it sounds like you guys are immediately bought in. You're not.
Speaker 1: You don't question this at all. You're not sitting there
Speaker 1: going There was a skeptic kind of like boring, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like, you know, a real sellout
Speaker 1: motherfucker right fun Martin Luther used to be his name
Speaker 1: on AIM. He didn't even you know, because he was
Speaker 1: like a real like he I think he was the
Speaker 1: only guy I had never met at the time that
Speaker 1: was like I believe he was conservative, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. You know how CNN it has like Andrew R.
Speaker 1: Ryan a bunch of other like angry funny lights black
Speaker 1: people seeing that, and there's always that one kind of
Speaker 1: bow tie, you know what I mean. Yeah, he was.
Speaker 1: He was like old Don Lemon type energy if it's out,
Speaker 1: you know Don Lemon before before the racial uprising. Don
Speaker 1: Lemon was real funny, you know what I mean. He
Speaker 1: was a real fucking weirdo. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: he like got cool and gay out of nowhere, and
Speaker 1: it's like, nah, Don Lemon, I remember when you was
Speaker 1: out here sucking titties and and telling black people to
Speaker 1: pull their pants up. He was acting real different because
Speaker 1: he was Don Lemonade. Yeah, was like he was. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, you remember, we remember who you were,
Speaker 1: Don Lemon, pepper Pepperidge Farm remembered Lemon, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So you hear this, You hear that that potentially, uh,
Speaker 1: black crackheads are are more activated by crack than our
Speaker 1: white counterparts. Are you then, uh spreading this gospel? What's
Speaker 1: what's your intent with this information? Are you then? Are
Speaker 1: you trying to like liberate crackheads? How do you? How
Speaker 1: do you how do you approach this? I was like
Speaker 1: Malcolm to x, you know what I mean, T shirt
Speaker 1: like I was out there because I come from a
Speaker 1: provider family, Like my mom worked as a social worker
Speaker 1: and she also worked in pregnancy provincial teams. My father
Speaker 1: he worked at juvenile you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 1: gets in the community. It was just normal for us
Speaker 1: to have these kind of discussions. So I'm my third
Speaker 1: eye is way open vising the whole nine. I got,
Speaker 1: I got one classes right here, right, I'm coming. I
Speaker 1: come home like like what a mom? I was like,
Speaker 1: I heard this thing and the teacher said today that
Speaker 1: you know, Melani and can bond itself to crack And
Speaker 1: it's just like what And you know, my mom is
Speaker 1: busy doing some black mom stuff, you know, putting it
Speaker 1: in her hair, you know what I mean? You know,
Speaker 1: you know on the phone like this, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Anything, She was like wait what yeah, and
Speaker 1: she's like that would explain brother Ken. Brother Ken was
Speaker 1: this brother in our neighborhood that was in the nation
Speaker 1: and he was he was like off craft. I didn't know.
Speaker 1: He was like he used to be a party my
Speaker 1: mom calling party boys, right, you know mom record, Yeah,
Speaker 1: my mom, My mom, My Mom Party. The album's party Boys.
Speaker 1: The first it's like the first the first track is
Speaker 1: wash your Nuts. Imagine my mom, you know what, the
Speaker 1: super funny light red Fox. I can see my mom
Speaker 1: could be like, yeah, you gotta watch the nuts, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a that's a perfect Red Fox record. You want
Speaker 1: to party always on a piano behind her, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? So my mom's light skinned mine is
Speaker 1: blown you know what I'm saying, Then my parents are
Speaker 1: gonna through black divorce. So my dad lived downstairs, right,
Speaker 1: So my dad lives downstairs. My dad sitcom. That's not
Speaker 1: that's not an ideal set up, but black divorce I do.
Speaker 1: I've always I've written sh about this, but like in
Speaker 1: where I'm my neighborhood, there's a whole other thing. When
Speaker 1: I talk about on stage for podcast, people kind of
Speaker 1: get what I'm saying, Like a lot of like people
Speaker 1: who came together and pute like civil rights or rights,
Speaker 1: and you learn after the Afros turned to Jerry Curls,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and others and ship like
Speaker 1: I like this motherfucker's so. But you you come from
Speaker 1: the hood, you had enough money together to get a house,
Speaker 1: but then you want then you get divorced or you
Speaker 1: split up and you don't want to move back to
Speaker 1: an apartment or the jacks. If there's a room downstairs,
Speaker 1: daddy lived downstairs. Yeah, those resources this we we invested
Speaker 1: our lives in each other. Were gon We're gonna rod
Speaker 1: this bad boy out. Even if we ain't, we ain't
Speaker 1: together no more. If my dad wanted to be a
Speaker 1: good black dad, you know what I mean. He was
Speaker 1: like a fat, furious Stiles. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: He was like, my dad would be downstairs looking like
Speaker 1: Jerry the Damager, Right, he'd be downstairs. We're like Chinese
Speaker 1: medicine balls and like if you're the black leaders that
Speaker 1: always point at you like you did something wrong and
Speaker 1: ship right somebody. So I go down my Dad's where
Speaker 1: my dad's learning how to make in sense, right, and
Speaker 1: he was like, frying fish can't learn how to make
Speaker 1: inceps at the same time, right, he's sprinkling incense in
Speaker 1: the fish. Right, He's like, I told Dad, Yo, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm like the town crier. I'm like, yo, did you
Speaker 1: know that crack can bond itself to the melanin? My
Speaker 1: dad's reading a book like How to Kill White People,
Speaker 1: Volume two or so? Ship right, he was. My dad
Speaker 1: puts his book down, not as good as the first
Speaker 1: one book slap Audible took it down. But it's slap though.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Kyrie posting it you know
Speaker 1: what sitting there. So my dad takes his like prison
Speaker 1: like burning glasses off, right, and he goes, excuse me.
Speaker 1: And when when my dad said excuse me, he knew
Speaker 1: I said something that blew his mind. To my dad
Speaker 1: was ultra black. You know what I'm saying, Like my dad,
Speaker 1: my dad, no one was gonna let him in a nation.
Speaker 1: Well he was too fat to be the nation, right
Speaker 1: but like you know what I'm saying. But like he
Speaker 1: was like, but my dad was like what what he's like?
Speaker 1: This teacher just taught me melanan bonds itself tis there
Speaker 1: agents and melanin. And my dad said, now, when my
Speaker 1: and my dad took like this, he boys put his
Speaker 1: his three fingers together and he would talk like wait, wait, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: break this down to me. And I was like yeah,
Speaker 1: And my dad said, I gotta I gotta make some calls.
Speaker 1: And I don't see people listening things. I'm lying? Did
Speaker 1: my dad when he heard this? Because my dad was
Speaker 1: a part of all these African groups, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, like like all this ship. So my dad
Speaker 1: called his friend Wadatta and he was our local roster
Speaker 1: shop on the guy. He's like, brother, brother, but what
Speaker 1: are you doing right now? He's like He's like, I'm
Speaker 1: and and what Donna was one of them like Roster's
Speaker 1: don't like love being black with love white women even more,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So he was sitting there
Speaker 1: and he's and he put on speaker phone. He's like, hey,
Speaker 1: tell what Donna? What he said I said? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: way far, like thirty feet away. I'm like, he's like, greetings,
Speaker 1: now tell me this information. I'm like, uh, crack can
Speaker 1: attach itself to melanin and that's why the drug problem
Speaker 1: is so widespread in the black community. And he's like, ah, y, interesting,
Speaker 1: what's about marijuana? And she I said, she didn't talk
Speaker 1: about that. Well, caught me back when it sh don't
Speaker 1: talk about weed. Then I went back to class and
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I can ask a question for
Speaker 1: I'm first, I'm I used to sit in the back
Speaker 1: like a loser, right, I was in the front. I
Speaker 1: needed to know more. I was like, hey, I was wondering,
Speaker 1: does weed attach itself to other drugs? And she said,
Speaker 1: that's a very good question. It there are certain other properties.
Speaker 1: Now they're looking at cocaine, but there are things like
Speaker 1: like things that are related to cocaine. Yes, but they
Speaker 1: have not found it yet. Attached yourself to marijuana, but
Speaker 1: the properties of melanin. The guy she had been talking
Speaker 1: about said more than likely it should be able to
Speaker 1: put them to certain narcotics. So but just going with
Speaker 1: the crack cocaine, it just fucked our all minds up
Speaker 1: and for and the the professor was talking about like
Speaker 1: like how long it takes for like how long it
Speaker 1: usually takes for cocaine to get out of your system?
Speaker 1: You know, just generally just out of your system. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean and what the detrimental effects are.
Speaker 1: But what happens when it bonds to your system is crazy.
Speaker 1: That's why it's funny when you see black people like it.
Speaker 1: It takes us much longer. But then she had explained
Speaker 1: that the melanin also helps create some sort of barrier,
Speaker 1: so it doesn't really it in some kind of way,
Speaker 1: it bonds it to you, but it doesn't. It's almost
Speaker 1: like me put sunscreen on, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like like me, okay, you know, like the sun penetrates.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, I didn't know, Bri, I didn't know. There's
Speaker 1: just serious way the sun burns me. And I'm not
Speaker 1: proud of I'm sorry that always Wesley number five when
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Speaker 1: So you know I think I think, hey, we're all
Speaker 1: doing our best with what we got. You know, this
Speaker 1: is this is the face. I'm stuck with you. You Tony,
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Speaker 1: we we could not have gone longer past the break
Speaker 1: than we already have. Uh, we are going to take
Speaker 1: a break we'll be back with more cousin Bentley and more.
Speaker 1: My mama told me, I don't even who say what
Speaker 1: blood oh creep. We are back talking about cocaine bonding
Speaker 1: to melanin. Yeah yeah, also a lot of heavy d
Speaker 1: yeah stuff. There's a lot of ship going on. The
Speaker 1: theory is that that cocaine and melanin have the potential
Speaker 1: to bond, and subsequently that is the the reason why
Speaker 1: our crackheads are so pronounced is because of the possibility
Speaker 1: that this crack is I guess lingering in the system
Speaker 1: longer than than it would be for the white counterparts.
Speaker 1: Is that all? Yeah, I don't believe this one. You're
Speaker 1: not bought in at all. But it doesn't it doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense to me. Like that ship goes into
Speaker 1: your lungs and into your brain, What does that have
Speaker 1: to do with the melanin of your skin? Like, like
Speaker 1: what is that? Like you can't you can't even take
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess acid you can take through your skin,
Speaker 1: but like, it just doesn't It seems two very separate
Speaker 1: functions too. Well yeah, okay, okay, And I looked up
Speaker 1: at a few articles, right, and there's a thing called
Speaker 1: bes Benzo benz Oil, like Benzo, like ben Zo benz Oil.
Speaker 1: Believe in yourself. You know you know what brother brother
Speaker 1: sounded out you. You'll nail it. I'm sure that you know.
Speaker 1: I had a jump started my lips. I'm like man,
Speaker 1: so like man, I can't read like this. Listen, you
Speaker 1: took a big swing. I don't say boy, You'll tell
Speaker 1: you when I do research. I do not say the
Speaker 1: chemicals because I don't know how to say. And you
Speaker 1: started off by being like it's a chemical called and
Speaker 1: I was like, good luck, nigga, and and you still
Speaker 1: got a chance if I just believe all y'all. Listen.
Speaker 1: I went to a state college, and I don't sucking
Speaker 1: like a commuter state called don't suck me all right.
Speaker 1: I was an art major too, so I'm not dumb
Speaker 1: as fun. Right, it's a I'll spell it uh B
Speaker 1: E N Z O Y L E C G O
Speaker 1: n I N E mm hmm. Yeah, that's the first name.
Speaker 1: So saying these two elements are in melanin and in cocaine, right,
Speaker 1: and possibly other drugs, but let's say cocaine. So when
Speaker 1: it bonds together, it's like a link. It's like a
Speaker 1: Cuban link. It's like, you know what I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a it's a break class. First aunds the cuban link, right,
Speaker 1: so it's sitting there like nothing stronger than cocaine and
Speaker 1: melan the links, right, so it bonds together. And so
Speaker 1: the more melanin you have, and I guess the more
Speaker 1: pigmented you are. It's and also also the quality party
Speaker 1: like learning it because the quality two of the cocaine
Speaker 1: the uses together. And it's hard because as of what
Speaker 1: our wider brothers they don't have it, so it's easier
Speaker 1: for them to get off it. So it's just it's
Speaker 1: a on it. It's like it's like basically it's like
Speaker 1: it's it's just like me like it's like when you
Speaker 1: make a chailing fence. As she was explaining, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, so and so, but it but what
Speaker 1: happens is if with more time, with more times, the
Speaker 1: guy was explaining, the teacher explaining, it takes it will
Speaker 1: just take for it to say to how would I
Speaker 1: say to Erode? You know what I mean? And and
Speaker 1: also they also said that I learned in the class
Speaker 1: it's about the health of the person who's ingesting to cocaine,
Speaker 1: so meaning like there's other there's other things involved, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I love that you you clearly
Speaker 1: have done some research, or at least have gathered some
Speaker 1: research from from what this professor told you. Boy is
Speaker 1: not on board, and so I did my own research.
Speaker 1: I think maybe this will be a good marrying of
Speaker 1: the two conversations and potentially clarifying. Maybe you will change
Speaker 1: your mind, Maybe Bore you'll change his mind. Maybe we'll
Speaker 1: both or well all of us will walk away as
Speaker 1: ignorant as we were when we started this. I love
Speaker 1: that I need you on my side because me and
Speaker 1: his friendship is at risk right now. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I don't why I want you to still
Speaker 1: be friends, even if it means, uh, you disagree about
Speaker 1: where crackheads come from. You know, what you're referring to
Speaker 1: is something that in the science world is called melanin binding.
Speaker 1: That's a real It is a real thing that you're
Speaker 1: describing of melanin binding. It basically means that drug distribution
Speaker 1: and retention and pigmented ocular tissues, thereby affecting drug response,
Speaker 1: duration of activity, and toxicity. So basically that like it
Speaker 1: has the ability to bind to melanin, not necessarily at
Speaker 1: least in this description in skin, but specifically in like
Speaker 1: the ocular tissues and inher and then subsequently it makes
Speaker 1: the retention of said like drugs lasts longer and also
Speaker 1: potentially leads to toxicity because of how long it holds
Speaker 1: onto the drug that it basically be will poison that
Speaker 1: space faster because of it holding onto the drug more.
Speaker 1: If that makes sense. It makes sense. It's also too
Speaker 1: like when you learn it and I worked, I I
Speaker 1: worked a lot as a case manager or a social
Speaker 1: work as assistant, So you work with people who are
Speaker 1: you know, in risk right, and so i'd work in
Speaker 1: like you know, I worked at walden House, which is
Speaker 1: a drug rehab center and UH in San Francisco, and
Speaker 1: I've worked at I've worked at all like a lot
Speaker 1: of major in Salvation Army, I worked for ECS, all
Speaker 1: of stuff, and so I would just after learning that
Speaker 1: and just being a young person working as a provider,
Speaker 1: it just blew my mind because I when I would
Speaker 1: work at a when I worked at walden House, I
Speaker 1: noticed I would see black people come in right for
Speaker 1: like a detox, and it would just take them so
Speaker 1: much longer. And when I would go to NA meetings, right,
Speaker 1: and I'll just like sit there and watch, you know,
Speaker 1: I would tell people's testimonials and I would just see
Speaker 1: somebody black people. Now this has nothing to do until
Speaker 1: with the signs, But when I list that people's testimonials
Speaker 1: about how hard it was for them to detach themselves
Speaker 1: from drugs, a lot of them feel like I counted.
Speaker 1: Not there's a list, but I always would make notice
Speaker 1: of people talking about how hard they felt it was too,
Speaker 1: just the craving, you know what I mean, or how
Speaker 1: high they're high was. And I noticed that darker people
Speaker 1: they had they just had. They would just talk about,
Speaker 1: you know, good black dope things. When they get off
Speaker 1: dope and they find Jesus, they'll tell you some story like, man,
Speaker 1: I was high, I was, I was, I was at
Speaker 1: a I got, I was had for four days. Oh
Speaker 1: just listen to Earth when in fire, you know, right,
Speaker 1: And then you would listen to white people and it
Speaker 1: would just seem like it was like they just it
Speaker 1: was as long as a music festival, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It was just like oh yeah, So I
Speaker 1: think what is worth clarifying inside of this is that,
Speaker 1: at least based off of the research that I found.
Speaker 1: There aren't a lot of studies that I saw, And
Speaker 1: granted I didn't finish reading a lot of these motherfucker's
Speaker 1: because there's eighty five pages for very dense science talk.
Speaker 1: But they largely deal with melanin retention in hair, follicles
Speaker 1: and in pupils, so they're not necessarily saying that that
Speaker 1: same retention is affecting people of different races or people
Speaker 1: of different like, uh skin tones. Right. That doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that it isn't happening, but it is saying that like
Speaker 1: a lot of the studies are not specifically being like, yo,
Speaker 1: this is a racial issue as much as they're saying
Speaker 1: a motherfucker with black hair is more likely to have
Speaker 1: crack in their hair longer than a person with with
Speaker 1: blonde hair. So we uh so there was not there
Speaker 1: having been a lot of studies about the effects of
Speaker 1: cocaine all white people. I wonder why, Okay, I can
Speaker 1: tell by your intonation that uh that you you're being
Speaker 1: a hotep now and I'm listening. I'm a gotep. Got
Speaker 1: the information, you know, motherfucking complain crack master flex you Now,
Speaker 1: I will say, in some ways, I do agree that like,
Speaker 1: you know whatever, even if we we sort of like
Speaker 1: are are being generous in this, there there is a
Speaker 1: real potential benefit in not clarifying this issue for everybody,
Speaker 1: right that, like to tell a bunch of black people
Speaker 1: that drugs and specifically I know we're talking about cracking
Speaker 1: cocaine inside of this, but these studies are not saying
Speaker 1: it's strictly cracking cocaine. There are other like prescribed medications,
Speaker 1: all kinds of medications that are retained inside the pupils
Speaker 1: and in hair follicles, which means there's also a possibility,
Speaker 1: if this information is true, that black skin is retaining
Speaker 1: it more than than it's counterparts, that they are needing
Speaker 1: to prescribe medications differently to black people than they have
Speaker 1: been in the past. That like this egal Ryan everybody
Speaker 1: gets the same thing whatever whatever isn't probably real and
Speaker 1: also would then open a bunch of people up for
Speaker 1: malpractices and misbehaviors that aren't being addressed because you're just
Speaker 1: assigning black people the same ship as white people, I
Speaker 1: mean partially though. Retention is not the same as intoxication, right, No,
Speaker 1: it is, so if it's staying in your system longer.
Speaker 1: What does that have to do with like the length
Speaker 1: of time intoxicated or like it just sounds like it's like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like some people have have
Speaker 1: weed in their system longer, Like does that lead to
Speaker 1: Like to me, it doesn't seem like that would lead
Speaker 1: to like higher levels of addiction. No. I think what
Speaker 1: they're saying is that it it does, it does control
Speaker 1: more how it processes through your body. So like they're there.
Speaker 1: I think the suggestion at least is that people with
Speaker 1: the darker melanated hair or pupils will likely have less
Speaker 1: of the dry rug in their system over a longer
Speaker 1: period of time, because what they're saying is like the
Speaker 1: melanin holds a bunch of it but doesn't and then
Speaker 1: releases it slowly over a longer period as opposed to
Speaker 1: sort of like this instantaneous release that you would see
Speaker 1: in white people who do the drug. And it would
Speaker 1: make sense, David, because they ever seen old black dolphins,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you take a long
Speaker 1: time to funk our shut up? You know that's yeah,
Speaker 1: But they do seem like it's like it's like that
Speaker 1: guy from the Lord of the rings with the ring
Speaker 1: where it gives them on naturally long life. I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't speak nerd nigger. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I'm not here, fucking you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I don't know all that Blint Cell talking about. I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not hearing on the streets. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Listen, I'm happy that didn't happen to me.
Speaker 1: That wasting it was really, you know what I'm saying, God,
Speaker 1: you know here, you know you bucks? You know who
Speaker 1: you buck? You know what I mean, What the funk?
Speaker 1: That's never happened to me. Nobody's I'm trying to keep you.
Speaker 1: But we seem black though, we seem black though things
Speaker 1: we see when they get all how they all they look, man,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, They look bad at me.
Speaker 1: Take a long time, a long time. It's like it's
Speaker 1: like it's like when you know when like you know,
Speaker 1: black is the only thing that makes you crack. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that in white women. I think they're both white. They're
Speaker 1: both Again, you're not gonna get me in that trap.
Speaker 1: But I think I think one of the things that
Speaker 1: it did make me think about as as I was
Speaker 1: sort of thinking about the possibility this is a hidden
Speaker 1: secret right that in a world where it does sort
Speaker 1: of it is retained in Melanin similar to what's being described.
Speaker 1: What it makes me think of is how untrusting that
Speaker 1: would make me feel of a white doctor now prescribing
Speaker 1: me medication, because it's not just a question of like,
Speaker 1: oh are you practicing for for understanding my body, but
Speaker 1: it's also you have to have a sensitivity to to
Speaker 1: my race, to my skin tone, to all these things
Speaker 1: that I just don't know that I could trust a
Speaker 1: white doctor to have, right like I know they cannot.
Speaker 1: You you can train yourself to not hate black people,
Speaker 1: but to know the differences between my version of black
Speaker 1: versus casteems versus bories is a much messier ask for
Speaker 1: a a non Melanii native person, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And you can also see in the writing and of
Speaker 1: all the journals have been written about melan and it's,
Speaker 1: you know, I guess, in his relationship with you know,
Speaker 1: with drugs, A lot of them have been you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's been a lot of black people writing about it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, like, I think there
Speaker 1: is something there and and if from working in this field.
Speaker 1: I've talked to different people working Black people who work
Speaker 1: in rehabilitation about this idea of like, you know about
Speaker 1: the effects of cocaine on like melanated people, you know,
Speaker 1: but you know the hair and skin and everything. And
Speaker 1: I think on a guttural level, it does feel like
Speaker 1: many of them, I think many of them could say
Speaker 1: I can agree there is there has to be some
Speaker 1: sort of relationship because well, there's one drug counselor and
Speaker 1: men told me and this one I went to this
Speaker 1: one workshop about the drug one workshop maybe just chopping
Speaker 1: it up, and he just felt like beyond science just
Speaker 1: about his observations. He just had seen so many black
Speaker 1: people have come back to drugs, and also too, it's
Speaker 1: just the fact of like the longer someone stayed out
Speaker 1: off drugs, the chances of the lower. But if people
Speaker 1: were like just came back the you months of being
Speaker 1: all drugs, it just after a while, it just became
Speaker 1: a part of life. And I asked him, like, do
Speaker 1: you think it's like more people who are more melanated?
Speaker 1: What do you who do you see? Do you see
Speaker 1: more darkstan people? Do you see more people this type
Speaker 1: of hair type? You see it, and lots of agree.
Speaker 1: They get started seeing get darker people. He's like those
Speaker 1: darkies who love smoking. I can't get enough of it.
Speaker 1: And because Sin was like, yeah, yeah, that's what I learned. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you know drugs is bad when the in
Speaker 1: the in the in the hood, when they started making
Speaker 1: flavored cocaine. You know what I'm saying, Well, I do
Speaker 1: think I want to make sure that we're being responsible
Speaker 1: about this. I think that that while while I am
Speaker 1: always happy to entertain the argument right that this is
Speaker 1: this is possibly true, I think it would be unfair
Speaker 1: not to mention that so much of what you're also
Speaker 1: describing is rooted in culture. It's rooted in resources and
Speaker 1: and sort of like these outside influences that have nothing
Speaker 1: to do with the lingering crack in our system and
Speaker 1: more to do with like, if you ain't got no money,
Speaker 1: and you ain't got no ship, and you can't really
Speaker 1: get your life together, crack is always gonna seem much
Speaker 1: more delicious than when you can you can escape. I
Speaker 1: don't like, I ain't never had it. It might be yummy,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I never had it, but the fact
Speaker 1: when I found out they made in New York. They
Speaker 1: got different flavor crack, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: strawberry cocaine. I'm telling you, man, we innovate, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, I'm pretty sure we can we
Speaker 1: really pretty soon it's gonna be like red velvet cocaine.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Well, boy, I I do
Speaker 1: want to hear your thoughts on this, because you we
Speaker 1: weirdly on pause with Sam Jay and you'll remember this conversation.
Speaker 1: I think you did an episode where you got into
Speaker 1: a very lengthy argument with Sam about the possibility that
Speaker 1: once a black person does crack, they are eventually a crackhead.
Speaker 1: There is no way for us to do crack once
Speaker 1: without becoming crackheads. And you were very adamant against that.
Speaker 1: You you said no, as a as a man who's
Speaker 1: done it, I can tell you can come back. Yeah, damn,
Speaker 1: We're just gonna my mom listening to this. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: All right, Well cut, you did it, you like you
Speaker 1: like a blackmail Oprah. You did it once and look
Speaker 1: your life got better though. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: it wasn't even Yeah, I mean, I just don't. I also,
Speaker 1: if it's how come there's not crack problems in other
Speaker 1: parts of the world like that, Like, I don't know
Speaker 1: any after crackhead like that bad I don't know about
Speaker 1: I'm freaking crackheads. I mean, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But I'm pretty sure to go that's the darkest those are,
Speaker 1: that's the most melanie. That's where it started. Yeah, i'd
Speaker 1: say that that's an India, but they're not going to
Speaker 1: admit it. So crack to your roots, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I think you like revolutionary for crack. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? We started this monk. I just
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know, man, I I yeah, I
Speaker 1: smoke crack. I didn't even particularly like it, like eating
Speaker 1: at a balanced meal. Yeah, well it wasn't the strawberry
Speaker 1: I just got. I got diet because like plane, this
Speaker 1: is nasty. Yeah, you have smart, you had organic cracky.
Speaker 1: I put some hot sauce on it. Uh no, man,
Speaker 1: crack like no, and I'm dark as fuck. The guy
Speaker 1: in the whole situation that I was in leading me
Speaker 1: to do it was a friend had been doing it,
Speaker 1: and he was a crackhead, and he is is light
Speaker 1: as lightston. We're already upside down. M Well, I will
Speaker 1: say that that while I am very light, While I
Speaker 1: am very light, I do possess melanin whereas I think
Speaker 1: the suggestion would be the unmelanated people versus melanated and
Speaker 1: and it gets more extreme as you go along. Not
Speaker 1: necessarily that no light skinned person can't be a crackhead.
Speaker 1: We we can be whatever we want to be, is
Speaker 1: what I've always said. Yeah, everybody knows that. Now now
Speaker 1: you want to be crackheads, you're taking out from us too.
Speaker 1: I think it looks pretty cool, and I want to
Speaker 1: see what y'all are up to. Crackhead light but his
Speaker 1: dick is dark, you know what I mean? Come on?
Speaker 1: Who I like that more? You really aren't being this contrary,
Speaker 1: like you really don't think like I just man, I
Speaker 1: think the I think the ru. I just have known
Speaker 1: so many drug addicts of lots of races, and I
Speaker 1: think drug addiction is like so many factors outside of
Speaker 1: just black people are crackheads just because we're black. That's insane.
Speaker 1: When you put it that way, it does sound insane. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it sounds stupid as fun. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: There was the heroin epidemics before that that ran through
Speaker 1: the black community. Is so is it the same for Heroin?
Speaker 1: Like I don't, I I don't. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: racial based. I think it's all situation. So you think
Speaker 1: you think the external factors are much more of a
Speaker 1: a influence than anything that could be happening in our chemistry,
Speaker 1: way way, way more and causine. I'm just gonna play
Speaker 1: moderator at this point. You're you look you look as
Speaker 1: if you have an argument back, because I'd love to
Speaker 1: hear me so angry that's want to punch my fist
Speaker 1: in It's like scream, whoa, You're only hurting yourself, crackhead,
Speaker 1: So calm down, and uh you literally debate real liberal
Speaker 1: calling people ship right now? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's all he's Yeah, he's doing what he does to
Speaker 1: do best. What's the Darkey's fight back here? You don't
Speaker 1: know my porn searches? Well you do now, Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: my born hub looking for Darkey's fighting Darkey's wrestle until
Speaker 1: it changes. I'm gonna rescue you like I'm gonna power
Speaker 1: bomb in the black off. Okay here, here's what I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about this. Okay, being the fact that they found
Speaker 1: a bonding agent and even though there is a number
Speaker 1: of articles that suggest there is the likelihood of this
Speaker 1: right and also looking at how there's so many articles
Speaker 1: have talked about how the government, but the government has
Speaker 1: manipulated crack, and I understanding one guy I saw talked
Speaker 1: about like how you could probably that that bonding agent within,
Speaker 1: like you know, they manipulate drugs for certain you know,
Speaker 1: for certain people, so you know, to make more money whatever.
Speaker 1: Why is it impossible things that they would do that
Speaker 1: manipulate that's so black people could become addicted to crack,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? There could be uplip an
Speaker 1: agenda breathen you know what I'm saying. I think crack
Speaker 1: was made. I don't think that it was. I think
Speaker 1: it was given to the black community because of external
Speaker 1: factors could lead to drug I don't think it was
Speaker 1: like I don't think they literally were like this is
Speaker 1: this is gonna get those blacks, Like there wasn't a science.
Speaker 1: You don't, we don't you don't subscribe to the Ronald
Speaker 1: Reagan sitting in a lab conspiracy. Everything but the lab, chemicals,
Speaker 1: everything but everything but the lab Ronald did. But Ronald
Speaker 1: wasn't a part of the sort of mixing of it, David, David,
Speaker 1: it's really brother. You're gonna be on here on al
Speaker 1: Gore's Internet, sitting here, and that's your problem right there.
Speaker 1: You believe al Gore made the Internet. Spike Lee, I
Speaker 1: know Spike Lee made the Internet. You really know? Because
Speaker 1: I don't want to twisted. I think it was conspiratorial.
Speaker 1: I do believe that. I just don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: that they were like melanin. Okay, so then we take
Speaker 1: the melanin. You know what we do. We take this cocaine,
Speaker 1: We put a little baking powder in there, and then
Speaker 1: they'll go. Now, I'm saying they discovered that later, Like
Speaker 1: let's say there's a phone. They discovered that that after
Speaker 1: they gave it to black people. Then they retroacted. Oh
Speaker 1: that it's like a Popbya's chickens switch. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying that, you know it just like that's that's more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I will say that that. I always have trouble with
Speaker 1: conspiracies that that give the government too much credit in
Speaker 1: terms of their no how and and skill set, and
Speaker 1: I it's much easier to believe that like, oh they
Speaker 1: did some ship and accidentally killed some people. They were like, hey,
Speaker 1: I don't want to keep killing some people. And they're like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the same. That's what I'm saying. I could kill
Speaker 1: some more people. That's what I'm saying. This one is
Speaker 1: just too it feels too specific to me. You sounds
Speaker 1: sad when you say that. Bro. I know, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to believe. I want to believe the bro
Speaker 1: I'm getting not tying this ship tied his podcast. You're
Speaker 1: sitting here, Lacey, trying to give his light skin truth.
Speaker 1: You sit up here kind of like a black repub kid,
Speaker 1: wear your shirt button all high. And I got to
Speaker 1: be up. I got invited on this bullshit as podcast
Speaker 1: kind of dirty as. I don't ei this ship. You
Speaker 1: see the funk I'm living. I don't even be doing
Speaker 1: this ship. You do you do right now? You need this? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're in it right now about cocaine. So let me
Speaker 1: let me ask you this because because I want to
Speaker 1: be clear again, none of the articles that I read,
Speaker 1: and even though there were a bunch of articles that
Speaker 1: did attempt to briefly address the racial element of it all,
Speaker 1: but a lot of them sort of like said very
Speaker 1: specifically that race sort of was a neutral agent in
Speaker 1: all of this, that it wasn't. They did not believe
Speaker 1: that statistically they could prove that black people were more
Speaker 1: addicted to cocaine or cocaine held on longer than than
Speaker 1: white people. That said, do you feel like this is
Speaker 1: just like what are we meant to do with this news? Becauseine,
Speaker 1: I truly like, is this a full thing for you?
Speaker 1: Is this a thing where you're like, niggas are gonna die?
Speaker 1: And that just is what it is? Like, what do
Speaker 1: you what can we do with this? Okay? So that's
Speaker 1: I'm glad you said it, Langston, right what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But if nothing, I just want to help the community.
Speaker 1: That's see it, I see I can see by yeah. Man,
Speaker 1: God damn it. Boy. It's like, man, hey, brother, your
Speaker 1: beer don't even connect. I know you don't believe in
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You can't connect. You can't connected together. Brother.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, it's connecting that right, he
Speaker 1: got it? Six summers. Here's what I'm talking about because
Speaker 1: I've worked as a provider. It's like when we talk
Speaker 1: to people, especially in the black holest of hells, people
Speaker 1: drug rehab. The idea is like this the way you
Speaker 1: can work from the top down to all the way
Speaker 1: down to like the ground floor. The people who are
Speaker 1: like on the front lines. Is that it seems it
Speaker 1: would thinks like who is the you know, when you
Speaker 1: look at all you see there's so many there are
Speaker 1: there are tons of black people right on addictive drugs,
Speaker 1: right and when you look at like and trying to
Speaker 1: improve our communities, we have a lot of people are
Speaker 1: making in res choices maney of their drugs. Right. So
Speaker 1: looking at the fact of that when I talked to
Speaker 1: some black people about this is like there is a
Speaker 1: there's a growing number of black people. A last I
Speaker 1: talked to who would like to start focusing have a
Speaker 1: more I'll have a stronger focus on talking to black
Speaker 1: people about what it is about? Why is it that
Speaker 1: we have a high rate recidivism or we have a
Speaker 1: high rate of entry into drug programs? And what is
Speaker 1: it about? Why is it we were able to why
Speaker 1: is it we're having a hard time shaking this? And
Speaker 1: with that, some people have told me is something that
Speaker 1: they can't feel like they can talk about this with
Speaker 1: the you know, the masses. Uh, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and and so it has to be more further research
Speaker 1: because there's just a lack of understanding. But as also too,
Speaker 1: is that they need more black people that have that
Speaker 1: have to be talking about this because it's sin strength
Speaker 1: of numbers. So you understanding to make this concern, you know,
Speaker 1: I have to make this to make the argument to
Speaker 1: get more to have more discussion about it, because it's
Speaker 1: just too consistent if it was like one or two
Speaker 1: articles every ten years or something like that, but it's
Speaker 1: something that many people could It's it's every year there's
Speaker 1: an article, more, multiple articles talking about this. So if
Speaker 1: I'm if I'm hearing you correctly, I think it sounds
Speaker 1: like you would love for this to to get to
Speaker 1: the point where action has to be taken because this
Speaker 1: is too large of a concern, whereas right now we
Speaker 1: don't even know to have the conversation and therefore are
Speaker 1: not the conversation is not being had. Yeah, because it's
Speaker 1: like we're we're hitting our head, we're hitting out against
Speaker 1: the wall all the time, and when you're on the
Speaker 1: front lines, you're seeing all these black people and it's
Speaker 1: just increasing numbers. Dude, I live in San Francisco when
Speaker 1: is like it's like twenty black people here and votine
Speaker 1: on drugs, you know what I'm saying. And it's like
Speaker 1: I'm trying of seeing the same flotin when the fun
Speaker 1: is on drugs and a hard time. So there has
Speaker 1: to be discussion also to on a on a gutter level,
Speaker 1: black crack teas are annoying. I'm tired of seeing this ship, dog,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We're in the same Jordan
Speaker 1: threes running around dancing, picking a feet, going crazy, making
Speaker 1: white people happy, doing all the types of ship. We
Speaker 1: need to get these black people on drugs and get
Speaker 1: these white people on drugs. And I was saying, see,
Speaker 1: that's the first thing I agreed with all you drug
Speaker 1: dealers listen to this podcast, So drugs the white people,
Speaker 1: dog and saying get these future and I ain't playing.
Speaker 1: Here's what I'll tell you. I don't know how you
Speaker 1: knew who are sponsors were this episode, but it is
Speaker 1: drug dealer selling the white people, that is. But honestly,
Speaker 1: they're just see because we're running, we're running. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just the fact that like when I talked to
Speaker 1: providers and I talked to drug counsels Black. It's just
Speaker 1: the fact that there it is plausible to think there
Speaker 1: has to be something biological now why, you know, especially
Speaker 1: with you know, with the when when it was discovered,
Speaker 1: and because once again it's just that you hear the
Speaker 1: testimony was of Basteran Americans on drugs, and it's just
Speaker 1: the fact that they it's they just can't understand how
Speaker 1: they can't shake it, you know what I mean? And
Speaker 1: if and if tested about the effect is actually a
Speaker 1: pretty compelling argument. Well, here's what I'll say. I was having, ah,
Speaker 1: I was having a conversation with a cousin this past
Speaker 1: weekend who works in sort of like medical health, specifically
Speaker 1: in helping people kick their drug habits, or at least
Speaker 1: figure out ways to find solutions inside of those drug habits,
Speaker 1: be that giving them a clean equipment and and paraphernalia
Speaker 1: for drugs, or even giving them a small, manageable enough
Speaker 1: dose of the drug that they're doing. And one of
Speaker 1: the things that it's sort of ultimately landed on was
Speaker 1: the argument that in truth, we should be legalizing all
Speaker 1: of these things in part because people are more likely
Speaker 1: to do a manageable amount of the drug if it's
Speaker 1: legal and streets safe and clean, as opposed to if
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I gotta do a fuck ton right now,
Speaker 1: because I don't know when I'm gonna get my hands
Speaker 1: on this ship again. If this is like something I
Speaker 1: have to work hard for to access, then I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do too much of it and likely hurt myself. Whereas
Speaker 1: if you just make the ship legal, motherfucker's are gonna
Speaker 1: do the exact melanin amount that they need and avoid
Speaker 1: the overdoses, avoid sort of the crack heads ish behavior
Speaker 1: that you might see when it's illegal. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we need to put cracking out there.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't want to crack dispensary, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, Man, I don't want to
Speaker 1: see Jim. I don't want to see Jim Jones from
Speaker 1: dip set having his own kind of crack, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, hey, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm not here. You know. I think you're gonna see
Speaker 1: much much more functional crackheads than what we've seen. No,
Speaker 1: I think it's not It's not just gonna be a
Speaker 1: crackhead mowing your lawn it's gonna be a crackhead with
Speaker 1: a lawn mowing business, and that I don't think that
Speaker 1: they're different. So they becoming like man C. J. Walker,
Speaker 1: like yeah, like samous and they're gonna name the super Silker.
Speaker 1: I fully and I can fully see it. I see
Speaker 1: a crackhead being like I invented the hot comb and
Speaker 1: we're like, hey, man, we already did that. He's like, nah,
Speaker 1: I did it again. You know, you know what. They
Speaker 1: have image Awards and at least honor like a black
Speaker 1: person doing something really major, and like, yeah, I I'm
Speaker 1: John Cheetle and today we're honoring Courtney Bang bang Johnson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he revolutionized crack fives Like, yeah, I don't. I think
Speaker 1: you guys are not believing in the in the potential
Speaker 1: of the humans were from. Alright, alright, this is a
Speaker 1: crazy episode. You're talking about legal crack right now, that's happening.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, brother, alright, already, we all we all on
Speaker 1: some form of Hollywood. I'm on the lowest end. Already,
Speaker 1: gotta already gotta pitch ready Crack to the Future. Crack
Speaker 1: to the Future. All right, it's a catchy title. Tell
Speaker 1: me the characters alright, alright, alright, alright, all right, I'm
Speaker 1: saying I'm already you know, you know, even the pitch
Speaker 1: meetings next to the water, you know, and you're like,
Speaker 1: so alright, check it right, It's like the wire meets
Speaker 1: back to the future. Right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Marty McFly played by DC young Fly. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, he'd come up with some old niggas, right,
Speaker 1: old old nigga, old drug nigger, right, comes up with
Speaker 1: this new form of crack. It's a new kind of
Speaker 1: crack that can propel, that lengthens your life, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, right right, like, and it's and it's
Speaker 1: probably some kind of crack that can right. I figured like,
Speaker 1: this is you know what I'm saying. I don't like, man, man,
Speaker 1: I don't I hate that I have to be the
Speaker 1: one to say this crack. He's bad. It's so so bad.
Speaker 1: I don't think any of the arguments for legalization are
Speaker 1: suggesting that it isn't bad. You just said, smoke crack
Speaker 1: and start a business. It's like, it's not. It's not
Speaker 1: a saying it's not I'm saying, if you smoke crack,
Speaker 1: you can still start a business. I think that's closer
Speaker 1: to to my vision for the America we live in.
Speaker 1: How we got to get on a marketing campaign to
Speaker 1: make sure that you know, like crack his whack. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We gotta get them crackings. We
Speaker 1: gotta get the crack his Whack shirt to back out.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, remember them. Everybody knows crack.
Speaker 1: This is crazy what's happening. But see, I think you're
Speaker 1: missing it. I think it's it's crack is whack. If
Speaker 1: it's illegal, let's make it legal so it can be
Speaker 1: fun again. That should all be on the ship business. Wait,
Speaker 1: let's make let's make crack fun again. Who are we
Speaker 1: gonna get Supreme behind it or something? When we got
Speaker 1: to we're gonna do like a two from one. So
Speaker 1: we're doing it. We're gonna do a prat Friday ideals.
Speaker 1: I listen, it sounds like you're on the marketing team already.
Speaker 1: I I think there are there's a lot of potential
Speaker 1: for drug legalization that that grey doesn't see. It can't
Speaker 1: be big l it can't be crack. We were talking
Speaker 1: about crack. We can't have Dad crack running around here.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And like other boy, you
Speaker 1: you've made it past the hump. If we're talking about crack,
Speaker 1: then let's let's open our hearts to what crack can be.
Speaker 1: You're a hero. I made it pass them God through
Speaker 1: the bushes of God. I'm standing to think about this. No,
Speaker 1: this is no waiting. No wait, wait, open your mind, brother, Wait,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on now. Now, we always
Speaker 1: talk about black business. You know what I'm saying, revitalizing
Speaker 1: the community, investing in the community. And what's bigger. What's
Speaker 1: the biggest industry in the black community? Drugs? Hair care products?
Speaker 1: But I think both are correct. I don't know. Well, brother,
Speaker 1: let's put the crack in the hair care. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, I mean, you can only do
Speaker 1: that if it's legal. You can only None of those
Speaker 1: businesses can be imagined until it's legal for everybody. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think you might be you, I think you really
Speaker 1: onto some of your legs. Then yeah, I have no
Speaker 1: doubt because seem I I know this, This is perfect logic. Yo,
Speaker 1: I'm about to do this. I'm about to be I'm
Speaker 1: not to figure to legalized crap I'm not to go
Speaker 1: on earn your leisure and trying to figure this out
Speaker 1: and like get like Dame dash forgot some angel investors
Speaker 1: get maybe like the legalized crap. Because they legalized mushrooms,
Speaker 1: they legalize this some crack would in some kind of
Speaker 1: way that would probably on the chat on the on
Speaker 1: the that would be up there is there a way
Speaker 1: we can do this to legalize crack, like a like
Speaker 1: a healthier way of smoking crack. I believe in you,
Speaker 1: and I will vote in your favor if if you're
Speaker 1: on the docket, if if this ends up being the
Speaker 1: thing that you you champion. Basically I'm gonna be herschel
Speaker 1: Walker meets marian Berry, right, Hey, that's your problem, herschel
Speaker 1: Berry out here. They don't trust me in hotel rooms.
Speaker 1: But I'll just blame it on CTV, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean it well, because same bed. I think I
Speaker 1: think we've we covered this. I I bory. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if you feel as satisfied as you would like.
Speaker 1: You seem disappointed with the way that this is the
Speaker 1: crack by smoke and he's still smoker. That's why he
Speaker 1: lived to Denver. You know. Stuff it heavy d heavy Denver.
Speaker 1: I didn't want this to end with us being like,
Speaker 1: let's legalize crack. Well, I don't think it's a let's
Speaker 1: U or us as much as it is. Me and
Speaker 1: half of Cassine are now playing this game, and you're
Speaker 1: you're a hard not on it. So so it's up
Speaker 1: for grabs. Listeners at home. If whoever seems more reasonable
Speaker 1: to you, you go with it. I don't know, we're not.
Speaker 1: It's not for us to decide. We're not gonna besides Cassine,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna campaign for it either way. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: he mean Christmas is coming up, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Get get that, Get your lady that fine crack rocks
Speaker 1: that you've been eyeballing outside the Macy's window. Don't get
Speaker 1: her debtil far back. No, there's a gentleman in the
Speaker 1: Macy's bathroom if you knock a certain way, and it'll
Speaker 1: get you exactly what your lady means the same because
Speaker 1: you tell the people at home where where they can
Speaker 1: find you on? What cool ship you have going? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: so yeah you can find me on a social media
Speaker 1: Casine Bentley all right as K S E M B
Speaker 1: E N T l E. Y can also find White
Speaker 1: Slavery on podcasts on all your streaming devices and whatnot.
Speaker 1: And yeah, hit me on that cash shop. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know you never hear that ship works.
Speaker 1: Hit me a Cassine Bentley on the cash app, Brather,
Speaker 1: I'm selling crack mail. You know what I'm saying. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: follow Cassine and then hit him on that cash app
Speaker 1: because he's selling crack. And Bori, where can they find you?
Speaker 1: The sandwiches? Cool guy joke? He in on Instagram December
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. I'm gonna be at the Jimmy Kimmel Comedy.
Speaker 1: He'd be so lucky to so crack at the Jimmy Kimmel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: some flap legs I stole from the buffet that you
Speaker 1: only sounds so sad when you talk about your dates.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm like that Are you out here? Dude?
Speaker 1: I am out here? No, I think he I think
Speaker 1: there's only certain dates where he's outsid. And I think
Speaker 1: that Vegas one always said some a very specific way.
Speaker 1: But but I want to be in here and I
Speaker 1: can't be out here anymore. Please go follow Bori and
Speaker 1: and go see him at the Jimmy Kimmel uh. And
Speaker 1: there's always you can follow me at Langston Kerman. Now,
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear from you. And if you have
Speaker 1: your own conspiracy theories, your own drops, if you have
Speaker 1: a solution for our struggling black crackheads, please send those
Speaker 1: theories to my mama pot at gmail dot com. We
Speaker 1: would love to hear from you. And that's about it,
Speaker 1: by bitch and I playing Noogle because of the broad
Speaker 1: babies my crop chips in your hands, Uncoala bears are racist.
Speaker 1: The olschool player for ost the money r. She's in
Speaker 1: many turnkey stuff. I can't tell me