1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: This is a headgun podcast. Who's that knocking at the door. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: It's all your friends, your filthy hor your husband's gone, 3 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: and we've got books on a bottle of wine to kill. 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: It's books. It's gossip. I'm shook. It's memoir. It's more teenius. 5 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: Celebrity book Club. Come read it while it's hot. Celebrity 6 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: book Club, Tell your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books. 7 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: No boys are alloud. Celebrity Book Club, say it loud 8 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: and powd. Celebrity book Club. Buzzman. I brought the queer voe. Hello, 9 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: best friend's sister, lover, ex husband, charity co chair. Hello, 10 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: my dearest lesbian house painter of many years, an assistant 11 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: hair dresser, long time on fidant abuser, grandfather's neighbor who 12 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: always drove me to school in his pickup truck every day. 13 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: And I'll never forget your guidance. My name is Lily 14 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: Marauder and my name is Stephen Phillips Horst, and this 15 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: his Celebrity book Club. We today we are talking about 16 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: an actually pretty big celebrity. Yeah no, not like our 17 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: usual d listers. This person, she's big. Okay, she's a headliner. Okay, 18 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: she's a movie star when movies, when movies were shot 19 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 1: on cellulind when when they're still were movie stars. I'm sorry, 20 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: but they just don't exist. They don't exist anymore. Okay, Okay, 21 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: it's not this Netflix. Yeah, get up and take a 22 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: shit in the middle, right, Okay, I'm talking about movies 23 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: where you sat down, where you went down to the 24 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: theater and you paid twenty five signs for a tiken 25 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: and you said, I want to say the Marcael Mabel picture. 26 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: And they said, well, come right in, darling, because everyone's 27 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: here to say the Maple picture. And you didn't punch 28 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: your phone during the screening, Darling, My goodness, No, I 29 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: know you weren't looking up on wikimedia. Oh who's in this? 30 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: So let me let me see the top tic what's 31 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: happening over there? No, Darling, these were real stars. They 32 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: had real lives, they had real face five millimeter. We're 33 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: talking about none other than Sharon Stone's new book, The 34 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: Beauty of Living Twice. This book carries so freaking hard. Yes, 35 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: this book is so fan random. I guess it's actually 36 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: kind of the word I was saying. No random is 37 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: up there? I would say, it doesn't disappoint in terms 38 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: of like she does give yes, and she is like, oh, 39 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm an actress and I I have lots of staff, 40 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: and I've had a crazy life and I'm very rich. 41 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: Like that is there for sure. Every other page she's 42 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: at can well, it's giving. I actually wanted to start 43 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 1: out the pod and kind of just quickly go through 44 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: the checklist. I feel like, now that we've been you know, 45 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: doing this for a few weeks of things, that it 46 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: hits that we see that all pods do. I feel 47 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: like number one, I was like a totally weird, gangly 48 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: kid and then it's yes transitions no explanation into the 49 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: fact that she became a model, but you're kind of like, right, 50 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: I was super awkward. Everyone made fun of me. I 51 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: had no friends. I was insanely smart and like this 52 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: huge nerd who was so gangly and tall. I don't 53 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: look like anyone and I was a boy. Were so 54 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: big and so tiny, and my eyes were sunken. I 55 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: was so thin. Um, and they kept telling me to 56 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: eat and I just couldn't um. And then I became 57 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: a model in a sex symbol. Yeah, and um, okay, 58 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: so that check number two number two Buddha. She actually 59 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: fully is a Buddhi. Yeah, she is a Buddhist. She 60 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: is the most Buddha statue. Of course, that the hugging Guru, oh, 61 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: the hugging saint. Yes, because she's like now best friends 62 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: with It's just like I'm sure you and every other 63 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: fucking Aniston thinks that she's best friends with ummah, just 64 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: being like no, and whenever we see each other, we 65 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: hang out and I tell her about my life and 66 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: she hugs me. It's like it sounds like that's the 67 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: relationship she has with anyone. No, it's like this bitch 68 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: is so free hugs or like she's literally the girl 69 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: on the park with the free hug sign. You're like, 70 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: we're so close, and like whenever we're in the same 71 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: town when fate brings us into the same town with 72 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: our crazy schedule's like she actually asks me about my 73 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: life and it's like the narcissism vis and she's like 74 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: and I get to tell her about like my custody battle, 75 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: my custody battle in the eighteen different charity foundations that 76 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: I founded yesterday that I'm also helping you McGregor found tomorrow. 77 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: And it's just like this. Ho was just sitting there 78 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: just like nodding while she's hugging other people on the line, 79 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: and Sharon's just like and blah blah blah. And then 80 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,559 Speaker 1: Jude Law said that we actually couldn't get the flight 81 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: to Rouk Me and I and I said, oh, what 82 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: we do? But then thankfully Liam Neeson was able to 83 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: charter us a plane so we could give supplies to 84 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: the war torn and I called my very very good Okay, 85 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: so I would say, then, what difference is Like, It's 86 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: less like her like totally like spilling like tea. It's 87 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: more just like the name Droppery is so funny in 88 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: celeb and a much more in Stammer where she's like 89 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: it's every page. It's just like and I called my 90 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: dear dear good friend, why Clefagan. Yeah, it's much more 91 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: kind of accurately celeb in this way where she thinks 92 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: everyone his her close friend. Yeah, and she's just like, no, 93 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: this was so so funny that I said this because 94 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: why cleft Sean one of my really good friends actually 95 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: introducing me to Madonna and kind of call then came 96 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: in the room and it's like, these are kind of 97 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: people that she probably met like once or twice, but 98 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: like I doubt that she's super close with I mean, 99 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: I was definitely imagining like what Clef Jean is playing 100 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: like Gaune to November, and just like she's there slim glasses, 101 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,799 Speaker 1: just like kind of swaying. Okay, I have to say 102 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: one thing I got from this whole book was she 103 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: kind of gives you, Oh but in the checklist also 104 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: abuse it Oh yeah, obviously abuse and like, let's go 105 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: with it, incest country vibe. Yeah, factories is an incest? 106 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: You mean when she said that her and her best 107 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: friend like learned to French kiss with each other's brother. 108 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: No, no no, her grandfather abused her. Oh yeah, I got incest. Okay, 109 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: that's like your grandfather will he abused the sister, but 110 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: he didn't rape her. But then she like does say 111 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: that he kind of did. Also, it's a little bit unclear. 112 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: Is the whole thing is unclear? Yeah, no, it's a 113 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: very I felt like this book almost read like the 114 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: way that your mom texts, where you get a really 115 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: long text and she's just like Geanie and I had 116 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: rose Peppers and my new like adoptee from Syria is 117 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: coming along so well, and I can't believe my good 118 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: Marcos said that in an interview, I love this Netflix 119 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: show Call Me Back. You looked great in the magazine 120 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: and you're just like, what this is eighteen different thoughts, 121 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: Like the whole book is so scattered, and it starts 122 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: out with her having this like neurological condition that's comple 123 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: in saying she goes to surgery. We should talk about 124 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: what we need to talk about that, But I'm just like, 125 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,679 Speaker 1: part of me feels like it's not even scattered because 126 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: she has a neurological issue. It's actually she's just such 127 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: an insane celeb, but that you know, it's full celeb 128 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: and how she thinks. And again like shout out to 129 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: my mom, one of our biggestinesseners we love never stopped 130 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: texting like you do. And I'm obsessed with Ossa with 131 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: ras text and I live for about stack. Well, I 132 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: actually before this is actually what is so ras about 133 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: this book? So Sharon Stone identifies as kitchen sink Irish, 134 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: which is like poor. So there's there's lace kurta and Irish, right, 135 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: and there's kitchen sink Irish. Lace Kurta and Irish means 136 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: you know, you grew up with more you had lace curtains. 137 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: So then I asked my mom and I was like, so, 138 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: Sharon Stone refers to her selfish kitchen sink Irish, like 139 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: what are we and she well, let's just explain. So 140 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: kitchen thing Irish means that you have like five people. Yeah, 141 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: and I'm living in the house together and only one bathroom. 142 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: So you're pissing in the sink, which I which I 143 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: do know that our good friend Eric does from time 144 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: to time because oh he did that when we were roommates. Yeah, 145 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: he was always pissing in the sink in that bathroom. 146 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: Was like already disgusting. And it's like, but I think 147 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: that's like him being this like pathological disgusting, like gay 148 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: guy where he needs to market his territory or something. Yeah, 149 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: it didn't feel like needed or I don't know, it's 150 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: like or I feel like he was so much more 151 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: like piss bottled the room and like pissing in the sink, 152 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: and it's kind of like, I mean, well, I mean 153 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: that mansion where we did me and tuckle Eric. I 154 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: guess we'll refer to him on the bought as opposed 155 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: to just like Eric, I don't know your brother Eric 156 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: true okay, a lot of erics. I guess that house 157 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: was so kitchen sink Irish because it was like nine 158 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: people living to this massive dilapatan house and that zero trauma. 159 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's where I was. Kitchen sink Irish. But 160 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: then that's my mom and she goes, I've never heard 161 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: of kitchen sink Irish. I think the more common term 162 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: is shanty Irish, really curtain or shanty, okay, and that's 163 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: shanty just being like general seafaring folk. Yeah, and it's 164 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: like because you live in a shanty or you live 165 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: in a house of lace curtains, right, and it's like 166 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: that is actually what's so Sharon Stones. I feel like 167 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: she kind of made up. I do think shanty is 168 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: probably the more used term, and I feel like she 169 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: kind of made up kitchen sink Irish. I don't know. 170 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: I feel like my mom is a little kitchen sink Irish, 171 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: but also lace curtain she's in. I'm just seeing links 172 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: to kitchen sink suppliers in Ireland. It's just like Chivan, 173 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: no clarities. Kitchen sink sup article on the Irish Times 174 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: that says eight new takes in the kitchen sink. Now 175 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: if you go Sharon Stone, yeah fake, yeah, I made 176 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: it up. But that's cool and I'm obsessed with that. 177 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: And she has absolute license to make up her own 178 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: terms exactly because my mom, I want to say they're 179 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: lace curtain because like her parents were doctors, but they 180 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: also lived. They're also eleven children, probably just had one 181 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: bathroom and also had horses and crows in the home. 182 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: My grandmother had a pet crow. Did I tell you that? No, 183 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: so a portrait of a lady. Yeah, I do. Like 184 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: I feel like they tried to like kind of treat 185 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: it as a parent. I can make a talk, yeah, 186 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: make a talk, and it did like laugh for something. 187 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes this is twist. So that's what feels a little 188 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: kitchen sink Irish to in here. No, I know, full 189 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: Poe vibes. I feel like maybe your mom was like 190 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: pissing in the stables or something. Yeah, I feel like 191 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: they're a little more like stable Irish outdoor stuff. But 192 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: this is ultim very Irish because you know, the Irish 193 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: are known storyteller absolutely, which yeah, which I feel like 194 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: is so Sharon Stone. Maybe that's where the Sharon Stone 195 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: kind of rose connection of these kind of like strong 196 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: fascinated by peep people. The one passion and through land 197 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: that you see throughout her whole life, it's she's fascinated 198 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: by other people, whether it's her gardener or her cook, 199 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: or her head of secure or a one a sex 200 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: worker she met. Okay, what I get also is the 201 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: most celebrity that like definitely like the demis are like 202 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: not getting into like just this full kind of like 203 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: ad for her being with the best human on earth 204 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: of her beata humanitarian. I mean, every celebrity does this 205 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: and the starts to foundation and like from my very 206 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: first book school, it's like they all want to do this. 207 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: In the Wanta Noble Peace Prize, she actually has received 208 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: a Nobel for I mean, she clearly does the work. 209 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: She does a lot, I mean I think, but it's 210 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: like the most self she's so and I'm meaning mispronounced 211 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: this word self congratulatory boom boom builded on the first 212 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: try speaking yes, wow you really um, that's that's very 213 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: Sharon Stone. You're sticking it to that like speech teacher 214 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: you had in middle school, the one who told her 215 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: that she was just like dumb as bricks. It would 216 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: never be um or like slow as slow as ice, Oh, 217 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: I forget way did they put her in a dunce 218 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: cap or her brother put brother in a dunce cap 219 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: and it was very traumatizing and then he later became 220 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: a coke deal, which is the first I feel like, Okay, 221 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: so the whole life first part of the book is 222 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: like her being like we're kitchen sink irish, but then 223 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: like also going back and forth to like her brain 224 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: and your wage forty, it's so confusing, and then all 225 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: of a sudden, she was like, I felt like I 226 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: was having a brain hers and reading this the same 227 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: because I was like going back pages. I was like, sorry, 228 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: did I miss something? When she's like my brother was 229 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: and then he turned into a back constantly thought that 230 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: I admits something that she had that I was like, 231 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: was I just speed reading? And I didn't see this 232 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: part where she was like and she revealed that like 233 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 1: someone had cancer, or someone raped someone, or someone was 234 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: murdered or someone went to jail. Wait, can I read 235 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: this passage about the brother because this is also what's 236 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: kind of your mom text where just moves so quickly, 237 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: where she's talking about her brother and how he's like 238 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: went during the military. Steam One day when my brother 239 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: was in the Air Force, he was up on a 240 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: hydraulic lift working on his car and then jumped down, 241 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: catching his wedding ring on the trunk latch and ripping 242 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: his finger off. He ended up in the amputee ward 243 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: with the vets coming in from Vietnam. He got gang 244 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: green and nearly lost his hand in part of his arm. 245 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: He saw too much. These guys were smoking marijuana and 246 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: using heroin to cut the extra phantom pain that they 247 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: were struggling with. This is where he began to see 248 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: the drug world unfurld. This is I imagine where his 249 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: life changed from that of a country boy with the 250 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: all American ideals to the guy who ended up in Attica, 251 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: which was a prison that he was sent to for 252 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: dealing cocaine. You're like, I'm sorry, wait hold on. He 253 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: writ his waiting finger on in a lift and then 254 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: was in a military like hospital with like heroin junkies 255 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 1: and became a coke dealer, and then went to Joel 256 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: for a few years, and then he couldn't get a 257 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 1: job in Hollywood when he moved in with her because 258 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: he was an ex fallin and that's what led her 259 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: to start with my very good friend Quincy Jones, producer 260 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: of such incredible albums as a Thriller and Bad. It's 261 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: also so fab how like she acts instead of like 262 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: I feel like how some books the celebrities like it's 263 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: just a stream of conscious where they're like and we're 264 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: in conversation like in Honey and like is Dick was huge? 265 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: This is like kind of like she acts like you 266 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: guys are old friends, and she doesn't need to fill 267 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: in some of the detail. And I'm like, well, we 268 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: don't know this. Yeah, Like she's definitely the Brothers stuff. 269 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: And then so when she's like raped by her grandfather, 270 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: she's just like at some point she's again, we are 271 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: all survivors. And and my mother left Clarence's home. And 272 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: then when they dropped me off, the cats were tied 273 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: to the bathtub and he took me into the room. 274 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: And that is the thing about being a victim, and 275 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: you're like and you're like, I'm sorry, sorry what happened? 276 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: And I do forget that. It's like as a victim, 277 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: you it's you know, you're not remembering parts well. But 278 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: then I mean she actually described I mean in harrowin. 279 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: I feel like it's very really she the way when 280 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: she's describing her sister getting raped by her grandfather, and 281 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: it's so like it's so movie the way that she's 282 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: remembering the certain details, just being like the grandma is 283 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: preventing her from leaving the room. That was actually the 284 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: scariest part. He was like such a scary Ryan Murphy 285 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: thing where this grandma is like right with the nails, 286 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: like gripping the sides of the door, so like you 287 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: can't leave till you like suck my eighty year old 288 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: husband off. Yeah, well she I mean she's watching her sister, no, 289 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: I know, just being like you have to, which is 290 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: also so Janis that like she's walking in the sister 291 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: That's so funny because I mean I also wrote, well 292 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: did you write Jannis? I wrote Janis vibes in my 293 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: notes also because it's she's a model at the same time, Okay, Jannis, 294 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm so curious if they overlap, because she's at Studio 295 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: fifty four. She's gone on Ghosties and she talks about meeting, 296 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: so she actually becomes early eighties and she's like going 297 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: to Paris and like going to Udi fifty four, I 298 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: feel like they literally were maybe getting booked for similar jobs. 299 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: Probably also so and Jannis never mentioned Sharon, which makes 300 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: me think that there's something going because Janis mentioned everyone 301 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: I know, and I'm like the fact that she was, like, 302 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: does that mean that they like well had an issue. 303 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: Here's some tactive lily work. When she's like first trying 304 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: to become a model, she goes to see you Willemina 305 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: and Wilhelmina cancer that was later, and that was later, 306 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: and Janice had already like left her when she had cancer, 307 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: but like when to go visit her in the hospital 308 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: was right right right right with She was just like, 309 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: thank you for everything you did, even though you like 310 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: didn't believe me, and I like walked out of your 311 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: office to get a better contract across the So I 312 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: feel like maybe like Sharon was going on and she 313 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: said she was sent to the weird jobs. She was 314 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: being like a fit model, when Janice was like, because 315 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: she reads just like you and your fat ass, Sharon 316 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: Stone and that photo that producer Meg was just joining us. 317 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: The ass was giving me flat boots. But I guess 318 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: the concept of the woman has changed quite a lot 319 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: since the eighties. Oh, I think so fat the eighties 320 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: is now like you know it's thin and people would 321 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: you know, they would get injectables to get rid. Yeah, 322 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: I don't think like the ass was something people were appreciated. No, 323 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: they didn't. Well, I also think that there wasn't a 324 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: concept of the ass being different than like the hips 325 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: being wide. It was like people thought that like wideness 326 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: was just bigness at all, whereas like now, I think 327 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: there's a much more like nuance understanding of like you 328 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: want the ass to be big, but the waist to 329 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: be small, and like the legs to be thin, but 330 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: like the thip like with a huge ass or whatever. 331 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: If I may actually argue with that at one point, 332 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: isn't like the iconic like fifties how like Bodice though hello, 333 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: like bullet braw it is to be more Betty Page 334 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: and like big hip, small waist. But even then, though, 335 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: I feel like there was an understanding that like you 336 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: wanted there to be an hourglass shape, but it was 337 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: the ass itself was not thought of as an object 338 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: except for Okay, this is so random, but I kind 339 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: of think like men's asses were like appreciated, well, used 340 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: to be bigger and like in this like cowboy sense 341 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: of people being like hubba hubba, like John Travolta's yes, 342 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: and I do and I and I. And my anecdotal 343 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: confirmation of that thesis more is that I feel like 344 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: I always hear women of aunt or mom aide, look 345 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: at that, look at that, but they always say he's 346 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: such a cute butt, Like yeah, that's always my mom 347 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: or other moms are always just beating, like saying that 348 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: a man has a cute button. And it's like, excuse me, yeah, 349 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: you're like what you're looking at this? Like dad gene 350 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: ass being like, what a cute button? I'm like, well, girl, 351 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: Like it's not like your reminet, so it's kind of funny. 352 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: It's like, are you okay? Two butt? Anecdotes of people 353 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: of like like divorced Aunt Energy one, my mom's friend, 354 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: and Nette, who I've mentioned the pod before. I took 355 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: me to Reba Brad Paisley opened and he was like 356 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: not famous then he was wearing these wranglers and she 357 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,479 Speaker 1: was like, oh, look at that, but in those genes 358 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: And it was so like me being a teen, like 359 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: carrying this woman who like is in her mid thirties 360 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: being like talk about like I was like, oh, I 361 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: was like okay, and it's like how I don't even know, 362 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: like how big Brad Pailess is like because the Wranglers 363 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: class right, they are super flat around the butt. I 364 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: mean it's that Bruce Springsteen American five ones. And then 365 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: my other about comment as I just watched that new 366 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: show that's like based off Aaron Brockovich Rebel, Oh my god. Anyway, 367 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: there's a part in it where she's talking to like 368 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: this old lawyer that she works for and is like 369 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: time about his dead wife and being like, your dead 370 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: wife told me you had an ass for days. So 371 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: it's like, what ask for days? Maybe I'm paraphrasing asked 372 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: for a days, but like it was like it was 373 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: like a munch munch munch. And it is kind of 374 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: my question again to straight girls, what are y'all writing 375 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: with the ass that you that you are so excited by? 376 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: Because I'm I'm gonna go ahead and guess that the 377 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: vast majority of them are not ramin or pegging. Yeah, 378 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: I think you're right. And I could see Sharon Stone 379 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: like looking at a guy being like, oh yeah, ass, 380 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: we were smoking hash. Okay, So another checklist. She is 381 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: pretty sober, but she loves wheat, which is cool. I 382 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: feel like we haven't kind of like done a stoner 383 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: well I don't. Okay, this is the thing and this 384 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: is where she's so me slash, just like any study 385 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: abroad girl, where it's like, does she love wheat or 386 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: does she just love the romance of just like running 387 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: guns in Africa in the eighties and getting hash, like 388 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: from this man from Madagascar who gave it to her 389 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: and they all smoked hash in the hotel like during 390 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: the civil war. It's like she likes the sort of 391 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: like romance of ash and it just reminded me of 392 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: like smoking hash in Paris when I was in college 393 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: and just like writing on the back of a Jugulars 394 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: motorcycle through Paris and just like thinking that I was 395 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: like the sexiest, most like feminine person on earth. But like, 396 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: I don't think she's so like if I thought, like 397 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: car whatever, and like lighting up a joint with her 398 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: gallop house like around a pizza of them. Well funny 399 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: these days pizza f may I read? I do fully 400 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: agree with you that she's beyond study abroad and is 401 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: just like because okay, yeah, I'm gonna read this passage 402 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: about her time and Africa, about Zimbabwe. Yeah, and pizza, 403 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god, the pizza party. No, this is what 404 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about. This was so eat pray 405 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: love when she makes the wind, can I can I 406 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: read it? You will find the passage. Okay, wait wait wait, okay, 407 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: I went to the kitchen. So whatever, she's in Zimbabwe. 408 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: She's shooting a film in Zimbabwe. The film goes up 409 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: in flames, like like there's the there there's rain, there's drought, 410 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: there's like a middle of like a civil war, there's 411 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: an incredible famine. They're like staying and she's always like, 412 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: you have to go to Africa, the most wonderful people, 413 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: but it's harsh. It's a harsh life, but it'll change you. 414 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: And she's like staying at this Africa this hotel in Zimbabwe, 415 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 1: and she's like, none of them have ever seen a 416 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: film before, right, It's like she's it's this is again 417 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: of like her being the most like boomer person because 418 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: she's like again being self congratulates. Heurd he like how 419 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: obsessed she is and how many friends she made in Africa. 420 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: Introduce all these Zimbabweans like through the beautiful cinema. Yeah, okay, 421 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: we all became close in our little groups. Oh. Also, 422 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: by the way, I listened to the Sun audio and 423 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: her voice was unreal. Yeah, it's like not I feel 424 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: like we do our like theater, kind of like Doling actress. 425 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: It's like is that like Sharon Stone, like smy We 426 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: all became quite close in our little groups. We went 427 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: through so much. There was the issue of the borders 428 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: being closed. So when we lost a Dolly wheel for 429 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: the camera cart, we couldn't get another one. Frankly, we 430 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: couldn't get anything, not decent food and nothing. I got 431 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: an old television and a VCR and a huge box 432 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: of tapes sent over. The first film I played was 433 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: Lawrence of Arabia. All of the hotel staff are absolutely 434 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: mesmerized when I put on. They had never seen a 435 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: film of any kind. It was wonderful. So it is 436 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: also like Herbing White Savior. Also this entire book, just 437 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: being like, can you believe these poor people had never 438 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: seen Lawrence of Arabia and I and I found an 439 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: old VCR and I got to show them the great films, 440 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: great films the fifties and sexties, Okay, I went to 441 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: the kitchen and found flower and water and old awful 442 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: faded to white canned vegetables and made some haphazard pizza. 443 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: To this day, this remains the best party I ever had. 444 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: Black hash from the congo, very bad pizza and this 445 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: film playing while people looked behind the TV to see 446 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: where it came from. She's like they were they didn't 447 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: even know, like they had to look behind the tees 448 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: magic box. I mean, okay, we were so happy and 449 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: it was so beautiful. We were filthy and poor and 450 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: starving and full of love. It's like, well, actually, you 451 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: weren't poor, baby, you weren't many like done basic instinct 452 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: and casino Like you're just sort of like auto little 453 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: cookie work trip vacation. But I feel like this is 454 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: so me and I just being like, the most incredible 455 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 1: moments are you have? That you have are like not 456 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: the fancy restaurant, but but where you just happened to 457 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: be at a random broke going down the fourth century 458 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: in in the south of France with the villagers, and 459 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: you make this cookie crazy cocoa var with just like 460 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: expired checker and everyone's laughing and you have the most 461 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: incredible wine and it's three euros better? Who who cares 462 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: the three? It's like, you know the times are It's 463 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: like the times you remember isn't a con even though 464 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: she mentions call on every other page, but it's literally 465 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: defining you because it's like your your study abroad. You're 466 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: it shouldn't go study abroad again already, and it's like 467 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: you're just being like, no, it was like free. It's 468 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: like when someone says they had a crazy night, it 469 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: usually involves this. It means just like you stayed out 470 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: late and like met someone you didn't know, and like 471 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: go to a third location and then there were beers. 472 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: I had a No. It's so true because like an 473 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: actual crazy night. You don't really say like, oh I 474 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: had a crazy night, right, It's like you're dressed like, 475 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: oh I like stop with the sky, or just like 476 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: oh I just like hmm, we like partied so much. 477 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: You're like, oh, like I did just like eighteen eight 478 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: balls or something like. When you say I had a 479 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: crazy night, it means that you met someone of like 480 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: a different socio economic sabbats you like you like talked 481 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: with someone who's like older than you, like story, shared 482 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: story and you are known for life. This episode is 483 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: sponsored by Zoktok. You're trying to find a cause for 484 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: your symptoms achy back, headache, running, nose itchy. I worked 485 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: on my genitals, so let me guess you stumble down 486 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: a TikTok rabbit hole full of questionable advice from so 487 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: called experts. Suddenly I have cancer. No, thank you. 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She also, by the way, 515 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I will say, well, you know, obviously to 516 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: our rating at the end, but I would urge people 517 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: to even read this book or it's not audio. So 518 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: this is not really a spoiler, but I'm like, she 519 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: literally like takes claim for like being the front runner 520 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: activist of the Soweto uprising in South Africa. Wait, yeah, 521 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: this is saying she was just like and so we 522 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: are there while Soweto was on fire, and so we 523 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: stole walkie talkies from the pas. We caught holes in 524 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: the fence. We were getting families out of their burning homes. 525 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: She was like, I told Effer on the crew to 526 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: give their per diems to like the children with burned 527 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: down homes. We stopped calls, and none of us can 528 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: fact check any of this. And I think, you know, 529 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: she does have this. She didn't literally win a Nobel Peace, 530 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: a Nobel Priest prize or something, so she obviously has 531 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: this urge to really inject herself into humanitarian situations, like 532 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 1: and it's mostly kind of you know, it's always in 533 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: this sort of same vein. It's always a very out 534 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: of Africa. It's always like a third world. And she 535 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: did say also, but she's also concerned local homelessness and California. No, 536 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: she I was actually kind of surprised that like ron 537 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: Or layered or one of her children haven't haven't told 538 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: kids just like medieval age layered. This is this was 539 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: so insane. This was so me actually giving myself a giggle. 540 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: She was like, what happened? She adopts layered, which we'll 541 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: get well hold that. I'm just gonna get through the 542 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: Layered story, then we'll talk about her other whatever she 543 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: adopts layardin. It is just like some people have ice 544 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: cream pregnancy cravings. My cravings were to watch surfer movies. 545 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: And it's like, you were pregnant, you adopted, so you 546 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: just wanted to watch surfer She's like, my friend thought 547 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: I was ridiculous, so she named her son Layered after 548 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: like someone from like a sixties surfer movie. Yeah. No, 549 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: this is where it's just like you are bad. Yeah, 550 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: you're like, so you're waiting for adoption papers, watching a 551 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: lot of surfing at the same time. You know, I'm 552 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: a huge believe he in psychosomatic things, and it's just like, 553 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: you know, how real is pregnancy cravings versus how real 554 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: is I'm gonna have an adoption craving. It's like, obviously, 555 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: obviously the body is preparing itself for something. Oh god, 556 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: this is oh an adoption people don't start. This is 557 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: where I get canceled for being like rude. Oh no, 558 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: we're so pro adoption and do not let the adoption 559 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,239 Speaker 1: plates come out for us. But no, we are. We. 560 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it's a family like any other. 561 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely anyway, So I'm sure you do have cravings, you know, 562 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,959 Speaker 1: And yes, and surfing it's very chill, you know, it's 563 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: about catching waves. It's just it's some of those waves 564 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: can kill. It is an extremely dangerous and I don't 565 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: want to encourage people to go out there without the 566 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: proper training. I have you ever tried to sort of yeah, 567 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: I can't. I mean I can't skateboard. I can't, sir, 568 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: I mean that that that sort of balance wild, Yeah, 569 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: like standing up on the board for two seconds again? 570 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: Do I mean? You know? I'm a skier, right, and 571 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: a skier is your your legs. You're two are parallel 572 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: and you can use both of them. That The problem 573 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: with snowboarding and skateboarding, serving all these things is it 574 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: asks you to twist your body in this way and 575 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: and have your feet be like conjoined. Why are the 576 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: most quote unquote badass sports. You have to have amazing balance. 577 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: So all my life, obviously I wanted to be badass. 578 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: I'm went to surf, I wanted to skate it, went 579 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: to snowboard. I have horrible balance genetically, right, because of 580 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: your gyroscopic vertigo issues. My father had horrible balance, right, 581 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: So you're saying I'm saying is more badass to have 582 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: bad balance and like all everywhere. No, I completely agree. 583 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: It's ten times more fucking punk to have vertigo than 584 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: it is to be a fucking surfer. Sorry, Paul Walker. Yeah, 585 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: oh I gotta stand on this one mordiously. No, I agree. 586 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: I think it's like it's way more fucking badass to rollerblade. 587 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: And speaking of rollerblady, Sharon Stone would roller skate around 588 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: New York when she was going to modeling Giggs and 589 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: that's when she booked her role as an extra in 590 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,959 Speaker 1: this Woody Allen movie, which is what started her film career. 591 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: And there's that insane scene when she's like, just got 592 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: off her roller skates. I'm sure she looks like nineteen. 593 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: She's sitting in the waiting room and would somebody like 594 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: didn't show up for this role? What Allen comes out? 595 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: And she was like, and I was reading it children's book, 596 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: and I guess like what he Allen was interested in that, 597 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: And you're like, ha ha, oh, I guess he was. 598 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: I feel like this is what she does in the book, 599 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: like she's not gonna go again. Does it actually call 600 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: out anyone? But she leaves him. She's like, huh wait, 601 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: well the hard I mean not Firstein Weinstein she's talking 602 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: about like again some fundraiser or something, and she's like, 603 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: and of course it was held by Kenneth Cole and 604 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: his very good friend Harvey, she said, now notorious notorious friend. 605 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: And then it's also like, okay, so Kenneth Cole and 606 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein were like bros. Every we mean, everyone was 607 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: like every Weinstein was like the most powerfulson Hollywood. Everyone 608 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: was with him at all times, and so then the 609 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: only like then she kind of like drags Harvey a 610 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: little bit later when she talks about how she spoke 611 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: out about China because of what they were doing to Tibet, 612 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: and she's so free Tibet and then she was like 613 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: oh when she got and she got all this like 614 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: shit in the press, and then she well, I mean 615 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: I like that. She was just like everyone was touch 616 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: bullshit and like your dropped her. She literally dropped her 617 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: because she had like the gall to criticize China. I mean, 618 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: and and she's being so like fuck Bush, oh wait die, 619 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: how obsessed are you? Her publicist is the Dixie Tricks publicist. 620 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and she's like and I loved what they 621 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: did when they stuck it to George W. Bush. And 622 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: there she's being just so, and she put them on 623 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: magazines instead of not putting them on magazines kind of like, well, 624 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: publicist is like supposed to put her clients on magazine. 625 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: But then she's like, and my publicist did answer for me, 626 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: like after the whole China she pissed about the China thing, 627 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: and all these statements were going out being like, I mean, 628 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: it is insane. I'm sorry, but it's just like you 629 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: actually just like you couldn't criticize China, then you can't 630 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: criticize o't. I'm sorry, but like you, we're getting shut 631 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: down by monk Pack. Just were even talking about this. 632 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: Monk Pack is gonna be just like sorry, we're cuiding 633 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: the sponsorship, we're severing ties. You know, everyone's got to 634 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: kiss the goddamn ring. So she says one thing where 635 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: she's like, where's all that money that I like raised 636 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: for China. She raises eighteen million dollars on Barry Diller 637 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: and Diane fun person Work's yacht for my very good 638 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: chi relief for China, And then she's like, good, I 639 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: don't know where that money went, and I feel like 640 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: it's just kind of this weird admission of the fact 641 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: that this entire world, which is a part of it 642 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: philanthropy community, is just like it's just rich people like 643 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: writing checks to other rich people that like go to 644 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: some organization, goes to nowhere. No one cares. It's just 645 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 1: about But then when she's like, hm, ask every Winston 646 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: where the money went. Yeah, that's all she says. And 647 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: then she's like, you're kind of like okay, like so 648 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: what are you implying? And then she'll just be like 649 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: and this whole thing about the me too, it's like 650 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: she keeps on like referencing me too. I mean, the 651 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: thing is she can't. She's so every sentence just like 652 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: immediately goes on to another sentence. It's like, no, I 653 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: Dia lasts more than like maybe three lines in this 654 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: book because she's just absolutely jumping all over the place. 655 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 1: The other thing, I want to talk about her style 656 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: when she's like she's always like shocked when she's like 657 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: gets to go to the oscars, which is also so ridiculous, 658 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: means very kitchen sink irish. She's always just like and 659 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: we're watching TV and I'm sitting there with my lesbian 660 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: financial advisor who's dying of cancer. And they announced the 661 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: Oscar nominations and then they announced my name and I said, 662 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: I have to go. But she talks about how this 663 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 1: is so like crazy. Did you see the part where 664 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 1: she talks about how vir Wang she was quote unquote 665 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: she was like helping Virwang transition from bridal to fashion 666 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,919 Speaker 1: by like being sah by, like wearing her dress gas. Well, 667 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: when her dress gets ruined, and that's when she wears 668 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: the iconic gap. Yeah. So she also, this is so 669 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: insane and just like out of a movie. Her ve 670 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: Wang dress falls off a truck and gets over and 671 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: run over, and it's like this pink dress and like 672 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: a big, huge monster tire like goes up the center 673 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: of it. And so her like friend comes over and 674 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: friends like, just get your three favorite things out of 675 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: your closet, and they just style this look with what 676 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: she had in her own wardrobe. Can you imagine? Can 677 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 1: you imagine your own clothes? And it becomes the iconic 678 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: Oscar look. Wait pretty sure, can you pull up the 679 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 1: iconic Sharon Stone Gap t shirt? Oscar look? It came 680 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: It was an accident. It came because the veer wang 681 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: dress car. And sometimes the best outfits, yes, are accidents. 682 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 1: They come in a panic. Wait wait, I'm sorry. It 683 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: was the most insane part of the book. Machine was 684 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: on Nantucket for nine to eleven. Oh my god, yes, 685 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:44,439 Speaker 1: we need to talk about Wait. I'm also obsessed with 686 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: last week reading Tan his like whole chapter about like 687 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: being Pakistani during nine to eleven and flying, And she's like, 688 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: so I was up early, I was on during nine 689 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: to eleven, And her response is like so random. She's like, 690 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: we had to get to She's like, I called a 691 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: ship off the Boston Harbor to like take us. She 692 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: got like a private faery and it's like and then 693 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: the whole storyboossible. Let's get back to Pennsylvania, whis always 694 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: called Penna Yeah, which is like why is that why? 695 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: Because the terrorists are coming from Nantuca. It was just 696 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: I think that's just a classic like random response. You're like, 697 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: I need to get home. I need to be home, 698 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: I need to be with loved ones. But then all 699 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: she does is the first thing she does is like 700 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: throw a pitch out of the Oakland A's game. You're like, okay, 701 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 1: so nine to eleven hits you need to leave Nanti. 702 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,240 Speaker 1: I feel like they're home for like a couple of days, 703 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: like with her parents or whatever in Penna, and then 704 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: she goes back to the Bay Area, which she never 705 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: really explains, like why she feels so like base in 706 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: the Bay Area this is why and this isn't my research, okay, 707 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: And why she's so vague about it is because her 708 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: second husband, Philip Bronsteon, is like an investigative war reporter 709 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 1: and he lives and they live in Berkeley together. Oh, 710 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: because he's part of the intelligentsia. Yes, and a photojournalist. 711 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 1: I've always wanted to like date a fun and he's 712 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: like such a war reporter. And anyway, that's the thing. 713 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: She poured her heart into the relationship. So she throws 714 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: at the pit to the okly nays and then like 715 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 1: two weeks laters when she has her insane neurological situation. Okay, wait, 716 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: two things. So I do feel obviously I related to 717 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: the being on Nantucket during an eleven mostly because of 718 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 1: my childhood and current adults on Nantucket. Um, not because 719 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: of nine to eleven, because your parents have als Nantucket. Yeah, 720 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: because my Santucket and I related to that trauma. But 721 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: I Nantucket. As you know, I was on a camping 722 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: trip for school during nine to eleven. I was at 723 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: bivouack and can I just say a note to our listeners, 724 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,280 Speaker 1: as you've famously we've argued about, not famously, just one episode. 725 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: You know, Stephen was quite mad when I left middle 726 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: school to go to a different high school where I 727 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: met cool friends and didn't invite him to events. One 728 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 1: of the main reasons I did not continue on to 729 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 1: the high school at Buckingham Brown Nichols is literally because 730 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 1: I did not want to do that two week camping 731 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: trip that was required. It was fresh when year starts 732 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: with this mandatory two week camping trip in New Hampshire 733 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: where it's like all the students go up with the teachers, 734 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: which is like, so, hello, me too, question mark, because 735 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 1: my sister went on it and she like talked about 736 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: like bathing and like seeing the math teachers dick and 737 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 1: just like right date, well most it was all about 738 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: like also digging the trains, and I was like, so 739 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: the lowest our teacher boobs are a present. Yeah. I 740 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 1: was like, I'm just not trying, I mean to, yeah, 741 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: to just shit in a hole and bathe my math 742 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: teacher for two weeks. Yeah. Sorry, it builds character. I mean, 743 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: as you know, as a boy scout, So I wasn't 744 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: like it wasn't so camping Warren to me, I'm like 745 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: super anti um no, yeah, but I you know, to 746 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 1: this day, I'm actually kind of grateful that I was 747 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 1: in a sort of sequestered, wooded environment for an eleven 748 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 1: because I wasn't bombarded with the mtges On media and 749 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: I feel like I didn't sort of like buy into 750 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: the whole. I wasn't so when I eleven pilled like 751 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: the rest of the country was, and I wasn't so 752 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: just like traumatized by and I was just like who cares? Like, well, 753 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: I will say, if now we're kind of going into 754 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: our night eleven experiences, yeah, I mean I remember them. 755 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: This is very short. The stone in Zimbabwe, rolling in 756 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: the TV through the cart into my Spanish class and 757 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,280 Speaker 1: us watching the towers. And that's why you never actually 758 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: learned Spanish because he was so traumatized by nine to 759 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: eleven otherwise be fluent. But I feel like I was 760 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: like just starting to make my like group of friends, 761 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: which was like still currently just like our friends like 762 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: Sam and Ellen, and I remember like all, I just 763 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: feel like it like kind of obviously I realized it 764 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 1: was very sad. Did you see a divide between the 765 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: so called live parts and the based people. Yeah, it 766 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: was very just like me. I remember me and Sam Ellen, 767 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: just like there was this girl I remember sobbing being 768 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: like being like my uncle lives in Ohio and I 769 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: crying because of that, and I was like, okay, okay, 770 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 1: because like there is a Pentagon office there, and like 771 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 1: I feel like I remember just like me and my 772 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 1: like squad being kind of like okay, yes, obviously, like 773 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 1: nine eleven is bad, but like I'm not gonna like 774 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 1: start sobbing because like I may have a relative like 775 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,959 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania, like where the Pentagon maybe oh wait where 776 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: that other with a fourth plane? Yeah, but like yeah, 777 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: so sorry for Ohio stuff. You say there's a Pentagon 778 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: office in Ohio, Like what does that mean? And Lily 779 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 1: speak but okay, yes, anyway, but it was just like 780 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: I'm sad for what happened in nine eleven, but like 781 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: it was no saying. I just remember I was a 782 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 1: little grossed out. I remember being like by the people 783 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: who were being trying to make it like personal, and 784 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 1: I get like grief is different. You know, you're kind 785 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 1: of like, no, okay, but I mean I think that's 786 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,760 Speaker 1: iconic that you could already sort of see that because 787 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: you know, fast forward to day and anything that happens, 788 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: anyone will make it their own personal drag Twitter. You know, 789 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: everyone is just absolutely beside themselves over anything they even 790 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: hear about that doesn't concern them at all. Right, it 791 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 1: was like, okay, so now we're squad because we're like 792 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: the nihilists and just being right, yes, yes, yeah, Bush 793 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: FuG Bush Okay, dope. So yeah, that's my nine eleven tail. 794 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,720 Speaker 1: Um yeah, and please like yeah, right in with your writing, 795 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: with your nine eleven tails, and when you realize that 796 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: you were fucking based in fats and to give a 797 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,359 Speaker 1: fuck about three thousand Americans losing their lives, I'm sure 798 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:34,839 Speaker 1: like someone has an an who died and they're going 799 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 1: to write it and be like I can't listen to 800 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: the pot anymore. Um. But then of course I was, 801 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: so I feel like as you called me out, just 802 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 1: like obviously like so Cambridge pill and then just like 803 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 1: everyone was fuck Bush. And then as I also mentioned 804 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 1: my mom's Randonnette, who took me to Reba like came 805 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: into the thousand a huge Freedom Don't Run shirt and 806 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,439 Speaker 1: I was so shocked and I was so like, bab 807 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: what wait and she was so just being like, pucker up, 808 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 1: We're coming for you. I feel like he was in 809 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: so much more of a casual way where she just 810 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: like picked it up at CBS, you know, picked up 811 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 1: the Freedom Don't Run tea, Like we didn't talk about it, 812 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: but I was very just. I would literally I would 813 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: not be surprised at all if you came over to 814 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 1: my house today and a Freedom Don't Run t shirt 815 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 1: from CVS that you had just purchased. I wouldn't surprise 816 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 1: me even a tiny bit. Well that's whyably how I 817 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: got so freedom Don't Run. Because she took him in 818 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: the country concerts and was wearing it. Was my only 819 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: exposure to freedom Don't Run culture, right, and everyone else 820 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,800 Speaker 1: around me was like fuck the Iraq War, Fuck the 821 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: Iraq War. But like remember the fall, Yeah, care, Freedom 822 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: Don't Run. Okay, we should talk about the adoption and 823 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,839 Speaker 1: roan Okay, Well I was just okay, I just had 824 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 1: this page open. Maybe I should just wanted to maybe 825 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,879 Speaker 1: read this first, because it's just it is the part 826 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: about Ampar, which also this entire book is a lot ampar, 827 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: but like there's it just has a it's very herd. 828 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 1: The way that she lists celebrities, they're just one of 829 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,879 Speaker 1: the right before you say that, can I just say 830 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 1: to our listeners that we have a huge history of 831 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,800 Speaker 1: knowing what Amphar is because of our love of Kathy Griffin, 832 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: and she talks a lot about an ampar event in 833 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 1: her stand special allegedly which we were obsessed with about 834 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 1: Sharon Stone in that I think she does and she's hot, yeah, 835 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 1: and then Sharon Stone come along, I would eat her 836 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 1: ship like I'm obsessed with her, but she doesn't care 837 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 1: about me. M Yes. So if we seem like we're 838 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 1: using Amphar too casually, like we have too much of 839 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 1: an intimate relationship with it, it's because we were obsessed 840 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,840 Speaker 1: with this Kathy Griffin DVD that we got it for 841 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 1: during megastore and junior of high school called allegedly do 842 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 1: watch it? Okay, anyway this sounds anyway. That year, the 843 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 1: year I turned fifty, I had finally reached the end 844 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 1: of this press line. When Cindy got pulled away to 845 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 1: deal with another issue. Madonna had not arrived. She was 846 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 1: quite late, as she had not arrived at the party 847 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: in her honor on Barry Diller and Diane von Furstenburg's 848 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 1: yacht the day before. We were all beginning to panic, 849 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 1: what if she simply doesn't come. Well, I don't know 850 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: what exactly had happened in Madonna's world that disallowed her 851 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 1: to come to the party on the boat. I do 852 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 1: know that Barry and Dana allowed me to turn this 853 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 1: into a pre fundraiser for am FAR. Then I asked 854 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 1: the then head of AMPAR, Kenneth's Coal and its notorious 855 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: at the time, Harvey Weinstein, if we would use this 856 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 1: money to help fund pediatric research for HIV AIDS treatment 857 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 1: in China. As this year our other co host was 858 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 1: Michelle Yo, and our attention was on China. It's like, okay, sorry, 859 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,240 Speaker 1: carry the two, tally carry the two? Like how many 860 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: more celebs like Ken are you trying to frame in? 861 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 1: But just being like and ultimately we were sort of 862 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: China focused because Michelle Yo was involved her being a 863 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 1: Chinese actress and we do support them, but then also 864 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,879 Speaker 1: she was dragging China for their treatment of Tibet, right, 865 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: and I still stand by my views on when she 866 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: does stand by her views, and she was like, and 867 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 1: I stand by this and do yours. Bullshit The thing 868 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 1: about her Madonna, because it's like there are these two 869 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: iconic blondes and it's you know, I feel like they 870 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:02,360 Speaker 1: also had like two amazing sesshas of hangs. But she's like, 871 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 1: we're so similar. We're so similar and we know each 872 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: other so well, but we've only met once. She was 873 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:12,359 Speaker 1: very solve, like my dear dear friend Madonna. I mean 874 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: they've probably they're both friendy AIDS fras, so they probably 875 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: AIDS fun raiser because also Anne far As Rosie O'Donnell. Yeah, 876 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 1: I mean you know, if you're a fag hag or 877 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 1: a fagag. Sharonson obviously is a fag haag. Well she 878 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 1: talks about actually speaking of fat gags. Actually get out 879 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:35,240 Speaker 1: of my voice box. Like her like best friend to London, 880 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 1: Roy London, who did pass due to AIDS related complications, 881 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 1: and like she worked in the modeling industries. Obviously we're drying. 882 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 1: It's like that's so Janis's book. There's like three chapters. 883 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: We're just everyone. It's dying. Anyone who's alive in the eighties. Okah, well, okay, 884 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 1: can you tell me what happened? That's here's here's my 885 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 1: big question. She talks about how she lost custody of 886 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 1: her first child rown, and then she says in the 887 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,720 Speaker 1: book she goes, but due to legal reasons, I cannot 888 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 1: speak about it. And then she like she raises in 889 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 1: this way where she's like and like a good woman, 890 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk about what I'm not supposed 891 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,479 Speaker 1: to talk about. So I'm not gonna and you're like, wait, sorry, 892 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 1: so are you like speaking in your mind or not? 893 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 1: And then she just moves on to another topic. So 894 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 1: I was so confused, as we said, like in this 895 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 1: book where you think she is, you've missed a page. 896 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: Because also I also want to talk about how this 897 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 1: book is made, like the binding of it. It has 898 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 1: like rough pages. Wait, I'm obsessed with you discussing the binding. Yeah, 899 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: let's get into book. You never talk about the paperweight. Yeah, 900 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 1: it's a it's a thick stock and it has that 901 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 1: thing that like nice books have where the length of 902 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 1: the pages aren't even. I don't know if that's because 903 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: the actual pages are even, because the way that it's bound. 904 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: I think it's bound to have that effect. So okay, 905 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 1: so I know a little bit about book binding because 906 00:47:55,200 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 1: I took a classic galaty called making a magazine. Well, 907 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,319 Speaker 1: you know, there was also a book binding I mean, 908 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 1: again showing our priv there was a book binding class. 909 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: I want to say in my high school. Yeah, I 910 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 1: mean the fakest classes intest. Well that's what I was like, 911 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,879 Speaker 1: Oh I can't camp, but I do need to go 912 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 1: to a high school that has a book binding, bookbinding class, 913 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:24,319 Speaker 1: a food class. Everyone else is just like fully having 914 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,799 Speaker 1: to read ulysses and just like write a paper, and 915 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 1: I'm just like, bring in your favorite cupcake. Okay about it. 916 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 1: It's not true. Okay, I was getting wocified way earlier 917 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,319 Speaker 1: than everyone else. I read Fast Food Nation instead of 918 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,359 Speaker 1: camping for two weeks. Okay, remember that you I read 919 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: that because you read it, And then I did e 920 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 1: McDonald's for like six weeks, and it was really hard. 921 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 1: I feel really affected you and it was like everyone 922 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,759 Speaker 1: and I went back to McDonald's and I still it 923 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 1: was very that thing where I was like, we're just 924 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,440 Speaker 1: going to have set up for everyone to come into 925 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 1: those high schools the most annoying person on her No, 926 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,800 Speaker 1: I mean your your high school invented like woe culture, 927 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 1: tumbler culture, call out culture, like holo culture. Everyone was 928 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,880 Speaker 1: canceling everyone for just like going everywhere. It's like, fully like, 929 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,760 Speaker 1: I just like when I think of your high school, 930 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 1: like everyone is just doing like the like look like 931 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 1: looks like they're about to have a panic attack, just 932 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,879 Speaker 1: like that that nervous energy when just like your feel. 933 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,240 Speaker 1: Oh by the way, in the audiobook, she fake cries 934 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,839 Speaker 1: throughout the entire thing. She goes, I need to hear that. Yeah, 935 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 1: She's like it makes me want to cry. And You're like, 936 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,320 Speaker 1: so my mother also, I mean I'm just like handing 937 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 1: her the oscars because it's like it's so saying that 938 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 1: she only has one oscar nom for casino. Well okay, wait, 939 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 1: so this goes back. We haven't talked about her career, yes, 940 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 1: but we also want to talk about we talk about 941 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 1: ron and this goes back to the child. So because 942 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,279 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, I need to figure out what's 943 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 1: going on with this child and adoption, and so I 944 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 1: was going to Wikis and stuff and then I was 945 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,240 Speaker 1: looking through because I was like, I've seen Basic Instinct, 946 00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,319 Speaker 1: and I've seen that that Netflix movie The Laundry Match 947 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 1: she did with Real Streep. But I didn't realize how 948 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 1: many razzies she has because she always talks about like 949 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 1: shitty films she has. She's been, um, not many for 950 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,760 Speaker 1: so many like razzies. I also think though, like people 951 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,919 Speaker 1: have and this happened with Demi Moore as well, where 952 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,760 Speaker 1: she was more respective after the fact and partly because 953 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 1: like people didn't have the same appreciation for like hardened 954 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 1: women roles as they do now and like didn't understand 955 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 1: the sort of satire behind them. It's like, what's that 956 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:32,319 Speaker 1: guy who directed Basic Instinct who also directed Show Girls? Like, like, 957 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 1: I think those films are recognized as like actually like 958 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,319 Speaker 1: quite smart and like and at the time people are 959 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,720 Speaker 1: being like, what a movie about strippers? This is bad, 960 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,799 Speaker 1: this is trashy, and like Basic Instinct was like thought 961 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:45,880 Speaker 1: of his trashy. And she has this part in the 962 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 1: book because she was like, oh and now everyone thinks 963 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 1: it's cool, but you know, at the time, I didn't 964 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 1: get any love for it. Well, and so have you 965 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 1: watched like the pussy scene. There's the whole thing where 966 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,439 Speaker 1: it's a you see. I mean, but you can't really 967 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 1: feel like I actually haven't even seen it, or maybe 968 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 1: I thought when I was nineteen or something, but I like, 969 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 1: I mean know it's like the most iconic scene in 970 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,400 Speaker 1: film history, but I have recently before we even decide. 971 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,839 Speaker 1: It was like on Twitter or something like that. But 972 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,560 Speaker 1: I I don't need to make excuses for having seen it, Like, no, no, no, 973 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 1: I've seen bass. I'm saying I watched a slow move 974 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 1: of the pussy scene, because yeah, that's where you really 975 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,839 Speaker 1: hardly do. Okay, is it just like it's just like, 976 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 1: is it like so fast? Is it like so dark? 977 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 1: And I kind of blurry, it's super dark and there's 978 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 1: like kind of it looks like a white light and 979 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,760 Speaker 1: it's just so dark, and it's just you're not seeing 980 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,879 Speaker 1: like fold slips. No, you're not feeling like I mean, 981 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,279 Speaker 1: maybe some better eyesight come through and call me, like 982 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,920 Speaker 1: I really like and I went back again, But you 983 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,080 Speaker 1: were watching this like really shitty pickslated on Twitter. Yes, 984 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,720 Speaker 1: And obviously I don't remember when I saw basic in stunt. Wow, 985 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,440 Speaker 1: the way those words just came out that was crazy. 986 00:51:55,640 --> 00:52:01,279 Speaker 1: Not a single syllable was correct. Okay, thanks stinked. Wait, 987 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: I just found one more passage that I feel like 988 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 1: really exemplifies the book in terms of the celebrity name 989 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,360 Speaker 1: dropping and also all of the charities that she's constantly starting. 990 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 1: I know you're about to read this passage. Do you 991 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 1: know the part where she like method acting style, goes 992 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:19,880 Speaker 1: to maximum security prison. We need to talk about insane. No, 993 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 1: that actually killed me. That was like the funniest part 994 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 1: was like in the nineties Hollywood thing where she's like, 995 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 1: She's like, so I and I was coughed and they 996 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:34,920 Speaker 1: and they checked my anus, they checked all my horifies 997 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,400 Speaker 1: and I had to walk through and they told me 998 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 1: that i'd be anonymous, but I wasn't. And as I 999 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 1: walked through the prison, I heard them screaming sh Sharon Stone, 1000 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,359 Speaker 1: Sharon fucking Stone, fuck you, and every iteration. There she's 1001 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,760 Speaker 1: walking in again, and her classic look and everybod hair 1002 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,279 Speaker 1: she's I'm sure she's already acting so much, and she's 1003 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 1: got like the like bad short hair, and she's like 1004 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 1: in the cuffs and she's in the jumpsuit and then 1005 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,560 Speaker 1: she's like, they take me in at honey, there's no pillow. 1006 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,880 Speaker 1: It's a cold steel black cat this isn't the Four Seasons. 1007 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:08,919 Speaker 1: It's that it was not the first Sason's death row. 1008 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: And I just have to tell you. When I was 1009 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 1: in kindergarten, they took my class to the Belmont Town Jail, 1010 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 1: not jail, and honey, let me tell you this, it 1011 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 1: did look like the Four Seasons in there. It was 1012 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,839 Speaker 1: I literally remember jail cells. It was kind of like 1013 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,120 Speaker 1: very mul rouge like. It looked a little like I 1014 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 1: feel like there was crushed red velvet padding seats in 1015 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,880 Speaker 1: cells in the holding. Where do you go? What do 1016 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:49,280 Speaker 1: you get sent to the Belmont jail? Four when inside 1017 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 1: of a Pinot Green shoe, as your wife asked, when 1018 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 1: you get the wrong fabrics for the play settings overnight? 1019 00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 1: Having too many guests? Yeah, living, I mean, oh you 1020 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,760 Speaker 1: know what I bet? For parking? Yeah, too many cars 1021 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,040 Speaker 1: parked and you're a little call to sac Oh sorry, 1022 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 1: call the cops. I can't believe they they're being so 1023 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 1: like they're scared straight, just like, okay, kids like you 1024 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:20,239 Speaker 1: don't want to be bad because you could end up here. Well, 1025 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,279 Speaker 1: it worked, it worked. You've never been to jail, you 1026 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 1: prissy ass, little silver spoon fan bitch. Okay, I got 1027 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 1: a drinking ticket once, but no, I have not been 1028 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,279 Speaker 1: to jail like you gotta drink techa. I got a shower. Yeah, 1029 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:39,400 Speaker 1: like drinking drinking ticket. I had to go a court anyway. 1030 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's the thing about turns sounds like she 1031 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,839 Speaker 1: is such an active vista. But again it's like in 1032 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 1: this most like nine, she's the most iconic nineties rich 1033 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 1: white women. I mean, I also feel like actors don't 1034 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 1: do that kind of method. Actor, they don't. That's what 1035 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 1: like she is, right, The films don't exist like that anymore, 1036 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,360 Speaker 1: really don't. But okay, let me just've been trying to 1037 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:06,880 Speaker 1: read with the vestry man. Okay. So we started Camp 1038 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 1: Planet Hope, first for homeless kids and then for homeless 1039 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 1: kids and their mothers, who generally slept outside and in 1040 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 1: the alleys of the shelters in an old appliance boxes, 1041 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,240 Speaker 1: leaving the beds inside for their children. We got medical 1042 00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,800 Speaker 1: buses supplied from Cedars Sinai with the help of Michael 1043 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,680 Speaker 1: Douglass's family, and eventually dental busses supplied by my friend 1044 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,520 Speaker 1: doctor Jake Usman, dental buses with whom we started Homeless 1045 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:32,280 Speaker 1: not Toothless. This allows homeless kids to have the dental 1046 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,080 Speaker 1: care they need to go to school, and homeless adult 1047 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:35,760 Speaker 1: to how they're doing at home. We now have every 1048 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,200 Speaker 1: kind of dental care and every type of dental specialists, 1049 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 1: all volunteers. William H. Macy and his wife Felicity Hoffman 1050 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,279 Speaker 1: helped us raise the funds. We are all complicated as 1051 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 1: we learned how to become transparent, And I'm just like, 1052 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 1: what what the fuck is that last line? That makes 1053 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:56,840 Speaker 1: no sense? Sorry? So, so started can't Plan, then you 1054 00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:01,319 Speaker 1: started dental busses, then you started Homeless not Toothless with Michael. Yeah, 1055 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,279 Speaker 1: let's Felicity Hoffman. But we are a pretty complicated as 1056 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,360 Speaker 1: we learned to become transparent. Sorry. So, like it's really 1057 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,880 Speaker 1: complicated of Felicity Hoffman to like contribute to Homeless not 1058 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 1: Toothless because like she has also involved in a different 1059 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,840 Speaker 1: Toothless church because she is trying to sort of become 1060 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,920 Speaker 1: more transparent her. Like I did, like the connections, we're 1061 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,720 Speaker 1: not making them, and it's like, Sharon, I don't know you. Sorry, 1062 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,319 Speaker 1: I'm not part of your family. I don't know you. 1063 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:33,399 Speaker 1: The segment foundation, what does she eat? What does she where? 1064 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 1: How does she Okay, what does she Well, she says 1065 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,960 Speaker 1: she's a vegetarian. Yeah, I mean she also says she's 1066 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 1: anorexic's and she is. She's like, she's definitely like again 1067 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 1: like making her three beautiful sons like grilled chicken. She's 1068 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,640 Speaker 1: having one. But yeah, I mean again, there's the pizza 1069 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:56,759 Speaker 1: scene with the like this can like crazy pizza. So 1070 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,719 Speaker 1: like she's which kind of also gets to your mom 1071 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 1: and her infamous like fruitcase at three am, which we'll 1072 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 1: talk about it another time, but like maybe she is 1073 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,680 Speaker 1: so just I feel like she's I picture broccoli Rob, 1074 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,359 Speaker 1: like like broccoli Rob and like I see and an 1075 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,600 Speaker 1: egg and it's like kind of but she's not actually 1076 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,640 Speaker 1: being so elton Roman about it, Like she's not actually 1077 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,640 Speaker 1: being like Himlayan seassalt and she's not getting it so brazy. 1078 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:24,560 Speaker 1: It's just kind of like steamed and whatever steam vegetables. 1079 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:28,680 Speaker 1: It's also like pan Asian. She's like, how oudon? Yeah, 1080 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:32,000 Speaker 1: like Layered and Roan are coming over and the house 1081 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 1: has so many toughleworre containers full of steamed broccoli Rob 1082 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 1: that like she hasn't eaten. I think it almost you're 1083 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,280 Speaker 1: you're being a little experimental with so much steam broccoli Robbie, 1084 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,919 Speaker 1: and she is like irish, like it's steamed broccoli. She's 1085 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,400 Speaker 1: lived in California for like the past thirty years, I think, 1086 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 1: I mean absolutely, but it's she's not still just being 1087 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:53,040 Speaker 1: like Potato's own thing. But I mean like, I, yes, 1088 00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,160 Speaker 1: there's broccli Rob, but it's not a holy broccoli Rob. 1089 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 1: I just mean I also see her at the farmer's 1090 00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,960 Speaker 1: market just being like, these leaks look wonderful today, and 1091 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 1: I became best friends. Oh she also obviously talks about 1092 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 1: Mary and Williamson. Yeah, and yeah, I don't know, it's 1093 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,240 Speaker 1: it's fresh. And also it's like so anarexic. Yeah, I 1094 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:14,080 Speaker 1: think that she's buying fresh steamed Vet's buying gorgeous leaks 1095 00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 1: in there, sitting in a bowl on the counter and 1096 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,040 Speaker 1: she's not doing anything. They're like. Also, the tupperwar is 1097 00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 1: like BPA freaking certified. I hope so now that we 1098 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:28,440 Speaker 1: know what it's doing to sperm count for Rowan and Layer, right, 1099 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:33,760 Speaker 1: they're better be fucking Okay. How does what does she wear? 1100 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,880 Speaker 1: What does she wear? I mean, well, she says all black. 1101 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 1: Johnny Cash is like her normal. I feel like she's 1102 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,320 Speaker 1: like sleek black or monty T shirt. Okay, it's so 1103 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,600 Speaker 1: funny because I actually think of her so jelo and 1104 00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,800 Speaker 1: all white and only wearing like white sweaters and cream pants. 1105 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 1: I totally I know because I think of HER's so 1106 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,960 Speaker 1: cream and a Well, it's a black and white photo 1107 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,600 Speaker 1: on the cover. It's a gray. It's like a gray sweater. Okay, 1108 00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,400 Speaker 1: but maybe this is a black and white photo, so 1109 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 1: this sweater could literally be purple and you wouldn't know 1110 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 1: because not the black does. But I don't know. I 1111 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:08,960 Speaker 1: get the vibe it's gray. Again, it's an actual black 1112 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,840 Speaker 1: and white photo, so you're getting the vibe it's gray. 1113 00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,160 Speaker 1: It's not a reflection of the troop. I'm just saying. 1114 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 1: She refers to herself as Johnny Cash multiple times in 1115 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:22,520 Speaker 1: the book, who who's also your style iconic. It's always 1116 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 1: wearing like a big black western button down. Yeah, okay, 1117 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:30,280 Speaker 1: actually it's a little more tighter fitted vibes thoughts oversized. No, 1118 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:31,920 Speaker 1: And actually that kind of makes sense, as like she, 1119 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,360 Speaker 1: as an East Coast interacts a girl like girls love 1120 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,520 Speaker 1: to wear all black, so that kind of makes she's 1121 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,760 Speaker 1: just like a black trouser, a black Jean. I mean, 1122 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 1: I do think in for red carpet nineties vibes, is 1123 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,920 Speaker 1: this like cream jacket as we're nobody in the famous 1124 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,919 Speaker 1: outfit she wore that black. It was it was dark black, 1125 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,800 Speaker 1: laser black. Rmoney, so it's yeah, it's all black. Okay, 1126 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,840 Speaker 1: you're right, bring a fire. How does she live? I 1127 00:59:55,920 --> 01:00:01,880 Speaker 1: mean Buddha to the Okay, I do feel like she 1128 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,880 Speaker 1: has a two bedroom kind of like Hollywood Hills, Bungalow, 1129 01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:09,439 Speaker 1: uh no way blared rone and her three sons living 1130 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 1: three sons. She has to have like Nancy Myers and 1131 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,360 Speaker 1: huge and double island. Yeah, I think it's double island. 1132 01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:19,240 Speaker 1: I think it's a huge white couch surrounded by buddhas Yeah, 1133 01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,800 Speaker 1: huge island where they're gathered round eating the steam French. Yeah, 1134 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,080 Speaker 1: so many. There's so many built in like so many 1135 01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:31,200 Speaker 1: Maryon Williamson books. And the parents, the Kitchens and Irish 1136 01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,200 Speaker 1: parents moved in with her for a while the father died. 1137 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,720 Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, it's I actually think it's also 1138 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,280 Speaker 1: it also could be Spanish and there's a casita. I 1139 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,040 Speaker 1: think there's a casita. I guess I feel oh, maybe 1140 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,360 Speaker 1: it fully is Spanish. It's Spanish. Nancy Myers in the 1141 01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:50,400 Speaker 1: Inside with buddhas Spanish Nancy Myers with Budda Yeah, which 1142 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,000 Speaker 1: is kind of just the dream Hollywood home. But I 1143 01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:58,480 Speaker 1: just I love that overlap. That's so beautiful? Is that merch? Yes, 1144 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:06,920 Speaker 1: Spanish Nancy Myers? Okay, who are you in the book? 1145 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:11,480 Speaker 1: Oh God, I are you Stone? I mean, at parts 1146 01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:16,200 Speaker 1: I obviously identify with her, but she's so cacusumo that 1147 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,560 Speaker 1: I'm just like, I really stop myself before I ever 1148 01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,000 Speaker 1: got to that point. I'm like, I don't buy. Yeah, 1149 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're Stone. I mean, obviously I 1150 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,400 Speaker 1: think you got a little bit Stone, but also maybe 1151 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,680 Speaker 1: you're just you're in some ways I wish I were 1152 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,680 Speaker 1: more Stone. I mean, I do like how you when 1153 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,760 Speaker 1: she talks about she talks, I will say very little 1154 01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,960 Speaker 1: about her career in this book. We got a couple 1155 01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 1: moments much more because you know, I feel like the 1156 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,960 Speaker 1: biggest juicy reveal of the book is that she didn't 1157 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 1: know that they were filming her actual nude crotch, which 1158 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,160 Speaker 1: I can say isn't even really but it is this 1159 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 1: moment of like the pre MEI too, just like she 1160 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,960 Speaker 1: stands up to him and she gets lawyers, and she's like, 1161 01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,200 Speaker 1: I should have known. I should have known. But then 1162 01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,440 Speaker 1: she's like she do want it in because that's like 1163 01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,120 Speaker 1: good for the character or whatever the part about her 1164 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,919 Speaker 1: career that she's being like, so like she's like, I'm 1165 01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,760 Speaker 1: this like amazing producer. And I cast Russell Crowe before 1166 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 1: anyone wanted to, and I cast Lee Leo before anyone 1167 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,959 Speaker 1: wanted to. I was like, wait, so wait what because 1168 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,000 Speaker 1: because she talks about the next few moviers on, she 1169 01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:21,000 Speaker 1: was just like, and I picked like I invented Leonardo DiCaprio, 1170 01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,240 Speaker 1: I invented Russell Crowe, I invented Sam Ramy. It's like 1171 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,040 Speaker 1: you invented all of these. Okay you thought. I feel 1172 01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,240 Speaker 1: like I'm actually I'm sure in Stone because when I'm 1173 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:34,400 Speaker 1: Kitchen sink Irish too, because I'm always claiming that like 1174 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,040 Speaker 1: I invented you and Daniel or whatever. Yeah, no, you 1175 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,240 Speaker 1: literally brought us together. You like invented my style. I 1176 01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,200 Speaker 1: was like, I invented it, like I called it, like 1177 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,120 Speaker 1: you called it. You turned me on to like everything 1178 01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,680 Speaker 1: I've ever been interested in. And it's like I want 1179 01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,520 Speaker 1: to be her lesbian security guard who died of cancer. 1180 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,560 Speaker 1: But like yeah, I would love for you. That for you, 1181 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,280 Speaker 1: and it's like that woman sounded like I mean that 1182 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,760 Speaker 1: woman was Okay, here's the thing. Oh and and this 1183 01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,120 Speaker 1: is what I think is so occasionally you dip into this, 1184 01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,120 Speaker 1: but I think what's so good about you in this way? 1185 01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,200 Speaker 1: As you're not that kind of lesbian who's like son 1186 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,680 Speaker 1: Tires being like well hey who saw that? But who's 1187 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,480 Speaker 1: so just like obviously in love and obsessed with a 1188 01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,000 Speaker 1: straight woman and just like follows around and like, yeah, 1189 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,160 Speaker 1: I think that is such a lesbian trope of like 1190 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,240 Speaker 1: those are like kind of like you know, seventy percent 1191 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,240 Speaker 1: butch lesbian who just kind of like such a Kimmy 1192 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:26,320 Speaker 1: on what I mean, who follows this like this like 1193 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,560 Speaker 1: craziest right woman around and just like clearly is that 1194 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,400 Speaker 1: love with it and like does herbity. Like I don't 1195 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,680 Speaker 1: think that you are that kind of birth. Yeah, you 1196 01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,480 Speaker 1: don't think you're Kimmy from anyway? Yeah, I feel nasty 1197 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,800 Speaker 1: us Kimmy. But also I'm also not like fixing my 1198 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,720 Speaker 1: Madonna because I'm not showing up to like Dinamon first 1199 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:48,320 Speaker 1: and yeah, I think you're Madonna and are you I 1200 01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,200 Speaker 1: want to say this, but you're not Jude Law vaccinating 1201 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:57,160 Speaker 1: just like vaccinating like so many refugees, so many child soldiers. 1202 01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 1: Uh no, I'm so. I mean, if I am anything, 1203 01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:06,840 Speaker 1: I am not like both Stone your stone in your 1204 01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,760 Speaker 1: study of broadness. But I'm not sown in. I'm like 1205 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,400 Speaker 1: the least fake charity person never like you will never 1206 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,520 Speaker 1: see me fucking share a goddamn fundraise er link in 1207 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,280 Speaker 1: my life unless I'm like working for the candidate, in 1208 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,640 Speaker 1: which case I'm getting paid for it. But like I'm 1209 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,400 Speaker 1: not like, oh, I'm doing this so now we know 1210 01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,680 Speaker 1: who you are. You're just actually just like a random 1211 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:30,400 Speaker 1: gay work in the m far and your Textami on 1212 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:37,480 Speaker 1: the BlackBerry being like, oh here Madonna hasn't showed up yet, 1213 01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:42,240 Speaker 1: um fire cold Madonna sign here yet? No literally deaf 1214 01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:46,960 Speaker 1: coon five Madonna hasn't arrived. Okay, that's me. Well, this 1215 01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,600 Speaker 1: book was a journey. It was a true journey. I 1216 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:54,439 Speaker 1: give it um. Okay, I'll say this audiobook I give 1217 01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:59,680 Speaker 1: it nine ten thousand dollars charity plates out of ten. 1218 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,080 Speaker 1: The book, I don't know eight point five. It's like, 1219 01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,520 Speaker 1: do read it. It's fucking random. I okay, see, I 1220 01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,440 Speaker 1: have a very I guess I have a very different 1221 01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,960 Speaker 1: recommendation than you, even more than the other book. Like, 1222 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,680 Speaker 1: to me, this book is actually like a two out 1223 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:19,160 Speaker 1: of five Barry Diller Yachts. I'm like, there was so 1224 01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,880 Speaker 1: much of this book is just kind of hard to 1225 01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:25,080 Speaker 1: follow in Rambilly and my random No. And I think 1226 01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,360 Speaker 1: that's why I'm saying with because, as I told you, 1227 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,840 Speaker 1: I was packing all this weekend and I started to reading. 1228 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:31,320 Speaker 1: I was like, well, one, I'm just not gonna have 1229 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,640 Speaker 1: time to read this book, so I have to go audio. 1230 01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,280 Speaker 1: But also I was opening up and getting confused. So 1231 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,240 Speaker 1: I'm with you on reading the actual book where you 1232 01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,400 Speaker 1: were like what And then I was still on audio, 1233 01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,640 Speaker 1: and like I would go back because I'd be like 1234 01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,280 Speaker 1: vacuuming or something, and I'd be like, wait, what's going on? 1235 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,120 Speaker 1: Like I guess that she is fave and she literally 1236 01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:51,040 Speaker 1: is Sharon's Stone, Like there's no there's no debate about 1237 01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,720 Speaker 1: the fact that she is Sharon's Stone, Like that is 1238 01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:57,000 Speaker 1: definitely one hundred percent true. But I'm kind of just like, Okay, 1239 01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,680 Speaker 1: I got I was into the Moonshausen medical stuff because 1240 01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,040 Speaker 1: like my whole medical issue, and I was into the 1241 01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,880 Speaker 1: idea like when she tells her dad like, imagine that 1242 01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,000 Speaker 1: the tumor because when her dad has a solo real 1243 01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:08,919 Speaker 1: cancer and she's like and they're like, oh, we can't 1244 01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,720 Speaker 1: operate because the tumor is not actually in the aspas 1245 01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,360 Speaker 1: coming out, and she was just like, imagine it needed 1246 01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,120 Speaker 1: to move into the asopagus for them to be able 1247 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:17,880 Speaker 1: to operate on it. And she was like, imagine it's 1248 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:19,680 Speaker 1: moving in. And he did for a week and then 1249 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,600 Speaker 1: it literally moved and I was like, Okay, that's him. 1250 01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,720 Speaker 1: I'm into this hole just like forcing your body via 1251 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,000 Speaker 1: mental focus to like do what it needs to do. 1252 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,920 Speaker 1: But overall the book was just like so scattered. There 1253 01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,040 Speaker 1: wasn't enough like talk about her actual career. Yeah I 1254 01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,520 Speaker 1: was it enough. There was name dropping, but there wasn't 1255 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,680 Speaker 1: any like tea actual tea, like unlike Janets, which is 1256 01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,840 Speaker 1: just like, yeah, I fucked this person, or unlike Jenner 1257 01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:44,360 Speaker 1: Lewis is like this person at this pic of a 1258 01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,280 Speaker 1: dick goes like we didn't get actually tea about of 1259 01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:47,960 Speaker 1: these people. Know. And I will say I love all 1260 01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,439 Speaker 1: those books actually much more than this. I think it's 1261 01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,360 Speaker 1: like it's in this another genre where I just like appreciated, 1262 01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:58,080 Speaker 1: like how radonk and caring and like narcissistic. Was Yeah, No, 1263 01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,840 Speaker 1: I for kind of this like genre of just being like, 1264 01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:05,040 Speaker 1: damn bitch, you're really just going on, really carry, you're 1265 01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:08,760 Speaker 1: really caring about, just like your time in Africa, and 1266 01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:12,760 Speaker 1: just like the ninety Foundations you're doing. So yeah, I 1267 01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:14,880 Speaker 1: would say all those other books that you mentioned that 1268 01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,800 Speaker 1: we've read are better, But I'm just like she Carries. 1269 01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,480 Speaker 1: We didn't even read the Patti Smith. We didn't even 1270 01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:28,400 Speaker 1: get the Patti Smith. And all at the same restaurant 1271 01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,760 Speaker 1: in downtown, men at eating a late lunch alone and 1272 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:35,680 Speaker 1: they all start to gabbing. They all gap and it's Donna. 1273 01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:37,880 Speaker 1: Karen comes owner says hello, and then Patti Smith comes 1274 01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,800 Speaker 1: home and says, hey, I want an Oh this is 1275 01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:45,080 Speaker 1: what I was gonna say. Actually, I'm Patti Smith. You're 1276 01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:49,680 Speaker 1: Donna Karen. Oh, I've got these massive, huge dolls. I 1277 01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:53,440 Speaker 1: guess actually in that sense, I'm Donna again, I'm Donna 1278 01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:58,200 Speaker 1: Karen Sharon Stone. We're both talking to Patty, We're both 1279 01:07:58,240 --> 01:07:59,880 Speaker 1: talking to each other, and then Patty Smith books up 1280 01:07:59,960 --> 01:08:01,920 Speaker 1: to us. It is like I want I wanted, and 1281 01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:04,000 Speaker 1: we're just like, ah, this is the best moment of 1282 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,800 Speaker 1: our lives exactly. It's just like that. I mean, that's 1283 01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,200 Speaker 1: also what so my mom is, because my mom's obsessed 1284 01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,840 Speaker 1: with Patty Smith and like and Sharon Stone is so 1285 01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:16,680 Speaker 1: like fuck Mike Jagger Patties. Yeah, when she said and 1286 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:22,960 Speaker 1: I said, Mico, yeah, mecco, y'all do what you will 1287 01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:26,960 Speaker 1: with that, what with all this information that you have 1288 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:32,000 Speaker 1: been bequeathed. Ultimately, like, do be suspicious of doctors, like 1289 01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,679 Speaker 1: truly the best interest in our ask for a second opinion, 1290 01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,360 Speaker 1: Get your friends in the operating room, No, get them 1291 01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,759 Speaker 1: to your hands, Like doctors are always talking so fast 1292 01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,160 Speaker 1: and you're like sorry, slowed down. And I also didn't 1293 01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:44,600 Speaker 1: go to med school. Well there, I just try to 1294 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:45,960 Speaker 1: get you out the doors and get the fucking next 1295 01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,360 Speaker 1: person on the goddamn table. And money, money, money, Yeah, 1296 01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:53,200 Speaker 1: doctors are fake. So our next book is so exciting. 1297 01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:59,760 Speaker 1: It is going to be our second setup. Sisters, wait, Augusta. 1298 01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:05,559 Speaker 1: But these are very different, very Americans, a little more 1299 01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:11,479 Speaker 1: sisters that. Yeah, I'd like to see b sisters say Lily, literally, 1300 01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,920 Speaker 1: you need to be put in jail. You need to 1301 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,360 Speaker 1: go into horney prison. Um. We are talking, of course 1302 01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:22,960 Speaker 1: about none other than w w E Superstars The Wins. 1303 01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,760 Speaker 1: They're also on the show. I'm total Dusties, which I 1304 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,880 Speaker 1: need to like Binge this week. I've seen it. It's 1305 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,200 Speaker 1: really good. One of them was dating I want Yeah. 1306 01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,839 Speaker 1: We haven't done a wrestling book yeah, which is super exciting. 1307 01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:38,439 Speaker 1: I'm super excited to dive into that industry, the wrestling industry. 1308 01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,000 Speaker 1: Even more crazy about this episode is we will be 1309 01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,559 Speaker 1: breaking Celebrity book Club convention for the very first time 1310 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:47,679 Speaker 1: and having, in the first time in history, guest guest 1311 01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:49,960 Speaker 1: or two guests, not just one guest, but two. We 1312 01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:53,360 Speaker 1: will be cross potting cross potting, joined by the host 1313 01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:57,600 Speaker 1: of the incredible podcast Who Weekly, which dives into the 1314 01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,400 Speaker 1: pop culture culture in those those ce list Wait, who's 1315 01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:03,840 Speaker 1: that kind of celebrity? Is that you just love to 1316 01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:08,240 Speaker 1: make fun of and your life as a guilty pleasure consumer. Um, 1317 01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:12,160 Speaker 1: And we're gonna have an amazing little chit chat, Yeah, 1318 01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,160 Speaker 1: little round the ring. We're gonna get in the ring 1319 01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:19,800 Speaker 1: with them. We're gonna smack down, Okay, total smack Downal Podcast, 1320 01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:27,639 Speaker 1: Celebrity book Club, New Weekly. Well when four hole center, 1321 01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:33,840 Speaker 1: one whole sleeve, So get like super pumped, fucking pumped 1322 01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,200 Speaker 1: to get fucking wasted to listen to that at nine 1323 01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:41,439 Speaker 1: am next week. Hell yeah, okay, well we will see 1324 01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:58,400 Speaker 1: You'll see you so much, Thank you, thank you. Celebrity 1325 01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,240 Speaker 1: Book Club is presented by prosub Projects and Headgum. The 1326 01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,360 Speaker 1: show is produced by Meg murnain, with editorial support from 1327 01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:08,120 Speaker 1: Andrew Parsons and Leon nay Falk. Engineering by Ferris Monchi. 1328 01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:11,679 Speaker 1: Original themes on by Stephen Philip's Horst. Artwork by Teddy 1329 01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,639 Speaker 1: Blanks at Chips and Why. 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