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OTAs continue, 10 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 2: we'll figure out ways to grade the offseason work. Curious 11 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,639 Speaker 2: Jeff Logoman's grading system when he's watching OTA's We'll get 12 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: to that here in a little bit, and then weighing 13 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: there quotes options on defense. That was a conversation earlier 14 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: in the week. Guys look a little more trim than 15 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: a season ago, especially on the defensive line. We're on 16 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: tx's La M Jaguars dot Com Jaguars YouTube. 17 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 3: J P. 18 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: Shadwick with Jeff Logoman. Good afternoon, Jeff afternoon, JP. What's man? 19 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: All good man? All good? Excited, uh, exciting time of year. 20 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: Mini camp just around the corner. Ota is in full swing. 21 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: Two more weeks before we hit the dead zone here 22 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: coming out of the dead zone. Nothing wrong with it. 23 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: I think an interesting thing that you bring up there 24 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: about grading the off season, Yeah, right, because this is 25 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: the time of year in which everybody's getting a's. 26 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 4: Oh, everybody looks great, great shape, They're having the best 27 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 4: offseason they've ever had on it in the chemistry. 28 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, getting stronger, bigger, faster, Yeah, the commitment prin mode 29 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: never ends. Yeah, it's uh, you know the old the 30 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: old saying is is that, uh, sometimes you just got 31 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: to wait and see until somebody gets hit in the 32 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: mouth to really see what they are and what they're 33 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: gonna be. True, right, very true. So I'm excited for 34 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: this football team. I'm excited with some of the changes 35 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: that they've made. But I think there's also a part 36 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: of me that says, I'm not giving a grade out 37 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: until this football team can give a grade itself, right, 38 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: I mean, because the ultimate grade is what wins and losses. 39 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: It's past fail in the NFL, that's all it is. Well, 40 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 2: you could great training camp if you make the team 41 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: or not. Oh, absolutely, And I think that that also 42 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 2: I'm really impressed with some of the things that they're 43 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 2: doing now. And and I don't know if this is 44 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 2: going to help them win football games or not. Okay, okay, 45 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: what do you got. But they're having this contest and 46 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: I don't even know if I'm allowed to even talk 47 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: about this. Oh well, here we go. We're going to 48 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: talk about to find out. They're having this kind of 49 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: cool contest where they have teams on the team and 50 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: they're competing in different events. It's kind of like a 51 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: team building thing, right, And so they say weight room 52 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: stuff is this, well, well some of its weight room stuff, 53 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: some of it is is different. They come up with 54 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: different competitions to have, so in other words, you have 55 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: like these teams that are made up of different players. 56 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: You know, I think they had like a draft or 57 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: we were able to select players. So you have you know, 58 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 2: eight or nine or ten man teams, whatever it is, 59 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: and each team competes in these different events that they 60 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: have kind of on a weekly basis. And when I 61 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: saw it, I was like, that really reminds me of 62 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: the team building exercise that Pete Carroll came up with 63 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: way back in the day when I was with the Jets, 64 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: and it was fun stuff. And the stuff that we 65 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: did was in training camp, but because of OTAs now 66 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: becomes so prevalent. Now it's a great opportunity to do 67 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: it throughout thet s. And then at the end of 68 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: the road there's going to be a prize. And I'm 69 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: not going to say what the prize is going to be. 70 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: I'll let them talk about that at some point. But 71 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: it's cool watching these players pull together with their own 72 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: team to have camaraderie with the competition and then to 73 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: push each other kind of along the way, because competition 74 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: is the greatest motivator that there is in the off season, 75 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: and you can tell that this team is creating a 76 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: lot of bonds that wouldn't normally be there if you 77 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 2: didn't have these kind of things. Today was a medball competition, wow, 78 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 2: where they were doing like a relay race, throwing the 79 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: medball to eat to their teammates. I'm pretty good at 80 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: that down and back and then you know, the winner 81 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: obviously wins. And then there was a med ball throwing 82 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: contest over the goalpost inside the Miller Electric Center, and 83 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: of course the big guys were doing pretty well with that. 84 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: And then there was a kind of a med ball 85 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: throwing contest where you throw it and then once it 86 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 2: stops rolling, you pick it up and throw it again. 87 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: The first one down and back of the field wins. 88 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 2: It's just cool stuff, and I'm excited to see that 89 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: they're having these kind of things because it brings everybody. 90 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 4: Closer and it breaks up the monotony of the offseason programs. 91 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 4: Not just meetings for a number of hours and then 92 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 4: on the field for an hour and a half and 93 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 4: go home. It's like you need something to kind of 94 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 4: keep well, keep motivating, and I think they're pro players. 95 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 4: You should be motivated anyway. It's a voluntary period. Let's 96 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 4: get some team chemistry going. 97 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 3: Well. 98 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: You spend a lot of time building chemistry within the rooms. Yeah, 99 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: you know, defensive line, right, Okay, we're all hanging out together, 100 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,559 Speaker 2: you know, and doing our thing and working out together, 101 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: lifting together, practicing together, meeting together. But hey, look, I 102 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: don't spend a whole lot of time with a running 103 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 2: back or a wide receiver. And these teams that they 104 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: have are diverse, you know, across the position groups, and 105 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: it's a great opportunity to to I think, create a 106 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: bond with other guys on the team that maybe you 107 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 2: wouldn't ordinarily have and from what I understand, it was 108 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: an idea by the strength coach, the new strength coach 109 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: that they have, and kudos to him because you can 110 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: really tell that the players are embracing it. Got an 111 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: opportunity to watch it today again. You know who has 112 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 2: a step ahead in working with different position groups. Travis 113 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: Hutter wide receiver and defensive back and Liam Cohen after 114 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 2: practice earlier this week explaining that yes, it's going and 115 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 2: it's going pretty well. 116 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 5: He is still learning. He's been learning a ton defensively 117 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 5: and offensively as we know, you know, but that was 118 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 5: more so fundamentals techniques. It wasn't a ton of eleven 119 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 5: on eleven seven on. It was more fundamentals techniques communication. 120 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 5: That was what that kind of last Wednesday was. And 121 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 5: he's been learning with those guys and meet with him 122 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 5: extra as he's needed to. 123 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 4: Said coach Liam Cohen talking about the defensive work one 124 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 4: day last week on the field, but he's been in 125 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 4: both meeting rooms throughout each day and getting a full 126 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 4: dose of Jaguar football on both sides. 127 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, And if I had to put like a percentage 128 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: on what amount of work that he would have to 129 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: have with the offense versus what he would have to 130 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: have as a defensive player to get ready to be 131 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: a true two way player. It definitely has to lean 132 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: more towards offense because defense a lot of times is 133 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: there's a lot of technique, but the timing, the consistency, 134 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: the working to develop that chemistry with your quarterback. It 135 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: just takes a little bit more time on that side 136 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: of the ball, whereas defense a lot of times as 137 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: being an athlete and reacting in the zone concept, right, 138 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: you're just breaking on a ball. If I had to 139 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: put a percentage on it, I would say sixty five. 140 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: Thirty five I think is probably where that number would 141 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 2: be at. Maybe, you know, maybe a little bit less 142 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: than sixty five, but not much. It makes sense to 143 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: build it on offense too. I mean that you got 144 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: to score points in this league. You got a quarterback 145 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: who's got a massive contract, another receiver on the other 146 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: side who had a great rookie year, and uh yeah, 147 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: you got to build up that offensive side of the 148 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: defense come along well. And also he hasn't signed his 149 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: contract yet. You know, I think that that's obviously on 150 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: the horizon, there's a I don't think there's a whole 151 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: lot of difficulty to figuring that out because essentially you 152 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: have a slotted system for the rookies, you know. But 153 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: I just kind of wonder, I mean, with a with 154 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 2: a player that's gonna play two ways, does that does 155 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: that throw anything kind of into the mix? You know 156 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: what I mean? Does that change the concept or the 157 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: position of an agent? There's no wiggle room from the 158 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: CBA standpoint. Yeah, what does it come down to, let's 159 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: say fifth year option? Right? Is it wide receiver? 160 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 4: Depends on what snaps he's playing, Right, If he's playing 161 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 4: more snaps at the corner, then he might get the 162 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 4: corner number the receiver. 163 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: Well, the agent's always going to argue that it's the 164 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: higher number of the two. Yeah, it doesn't matter what 165 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 2: the split is. Yeah, if he's doing his job anyway. 166 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, And the same thing when it comes to a 167 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 4: second contract, if we get that far, you hope the 168 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 4: wide receiver contract. 169 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: Or is he going to get a cournerback different or 170 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: is he going to get a contract that essentially represents 171 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: that he's playing two positions and his contribution is from 172 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: two positions. I mean, if that's the case. I mean, 173 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: you're talking quarterback money or more right. I mean, if 174 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 2: if you've got a guy who is uh and obviously 175 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 2: we're getting way, you have to break, you can we 176 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: play a game play. But I mean it's just fun 177 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: to talk about the possibilities. I mean because it at 178 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: some point you could be looking at a player that 179 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 2: agent would have a viable position to say that, looker, 180 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 2: you've got a player that can play. He's playing two positions. 181 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: He's playing him at a high level. So you can't 182 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 2: look at him as a single person getting paid. You 183 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: have to pay him as two. But that's down the road. 184 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: He wants you to be his agent, That's what it 185 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 2: sounds like to me. If you're talking that way, well, 186 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 2: I think you probably want to be his agent too. 187 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: With that, can you can you imagine yeah, three percent 188 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: of sixty million a year? I mean, I mean that's 189 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: the quarterback rate now, right, sixty million, right. I think 190 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: the agent's fees are anywhere. I think the cap. We 191 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: put a cap on the agents fees a few years back. 192 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: I can't remember what the number was, but I mean 193 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 2: years ago, when I was a vice president of the union, 194 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 2: we we instituted a cap because we had we actually 195 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 2: had some guys that were getting charged ridiculous amounts like ten. Yeah, 196 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: like there was no there was no you know, guidelines 197 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: for the agents, you know, going back and we finally 198 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: put a cap. I was, you know, I was one 199 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 2: of the ones that was fighting for because I was like, look, 200 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: we can't have guys that don't know any better. All 201 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: of a sudden they signed a contract agreement with an 202 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: agent and he's getting charged seven or eight percent, you know, 203 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: because a lot of agents, you know, after the fact 204 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: that we put that in there, we're trying to say, wow, 205 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: you know, I'm getting five I think it was five percent. 206 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: Five percent is what I'm getting as an agent, But 207 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: then I'm getting another three percent from a marketing stand. Pop. 208 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: I see, Okay, they combined the Yeah, after we put 209 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: the rules in place, but we shut that down. Yeah, 210 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: it makes sense. We're on x now, Jaguars dot Com, 211 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: Jaguars YouTube, Jaguars Happy Hours ap Shadwick with Jeff Flogoman 212 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: and then the other side of the offense. Brian Thomas 213 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 2: Junior still looks good man, Yeah, but is he not? 214 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: Has he not become an afterthought? I mean a little right, 215 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: but not for long. I don't think when he gets 216 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: real he won't be well. And he's and he's not obviously, 217 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: I don't think in anybody's mind, but just the conversation 218 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: with most teams of a rookie receiver having the year 219 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 2: that he just had, he would be almost the focal point. 220 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 2: And with the new staff, new front office, new uh players, 221 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 2: a little bit forgotten, kind of in the mix, but 222 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: not forgotten in my mind, because I think he's an 223 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 2: outstanding player and I can't wait to see what year 224 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 2: two brings. And I'm really excited that year one happened 225 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 2: the way it did because I think if you didn't 226 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: have all that happened last year, with the injuries to 227 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 2: the other wide receivers, to Gabe and and oh Christian Kirk, 228 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: thank you, if you didn't have those injuries to those guys, 229 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: could you really truly have discovered how versatile that Brian 230 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: Thomas Junior can be and what all that he can do. 231 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 2: Because I think the the original thinking was is that 232 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: he was kind of be he was going to be 233 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: kind of wide receiver three, and by the end of 234 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 2: the year he was like wide receiver number one. Star 235 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: Star Stars easy and number two. Yeah, exactly. 236 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 4: The other one that has d shown so far that 237 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 4: he is in a good place is the Ammy Brown 238 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 4: free agent addition, Liam him the other day about his 239 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 4: speed fast. 240 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: Did you have you looked at his college numbers? Pull 241 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: his college numbers up? It's a long time ago. Now, 242 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: well it's a long time ago. But I mean, if 243 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 2: you want kind of an indication of where the belief 244 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: is in Damie Brown, then you know a lot of times, 245 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 2: what personnel people do in the league is they have 246 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 2: a they have a college scouting report and then they 247 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: kind of have an updated professional scouting report. And when 248 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 2: certain players get the free agency for the first time, 249 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 2: they go back to their college scouting evaluation to kind 250 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 2: of get an idea of what the opinion was on 251 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: him coming out. And then they also look at it 252 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 2: from what's happened in the recent past, because look JP 253 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 2: a lot of times for example in Washington prior to 254 00:13:54,840 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 2: this year, who was playing quarterback for the Commanders, what 255 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 2: any consistency right rotation? Well then you have a rookie. 256 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: So a lot of times when you have a situation 257 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: like that where the ball getting delivered on time and 258 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: accurately is not happening. You again, go back to that 259 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: college resume to take a look, and what do the 260 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 2: numbers say at its pro to a U and C 261 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: four point four four forty smoking fat vertical jump of 262 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: thirty five and a half. Okay, so to jump tonight, 263 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: give me some college numbers receiving yards, yards per catch, 264 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 2: the yards per catch you're gonna look at and go wow, Okay, 265 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 2: that gives me an idea of what this guy can be. 266 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 4: Oh dear, twenty eighteen was young, didn't play much, hundred 267 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 4: and seventy three yards touchdown. Next year twenty nineteen, fifty 268 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 4: one catches one thousand and thirty four yards, twelve touchdowns, 269 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 4: a twenty point three twenty point three The next season, 270 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 4: twenty twenty, the shortened COVID year of the ACC one 271 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 4: thousand ninety nine yards not in the ACC they played 272 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 4: full but one thousand ninety nine yar yards and eight 273 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 4: touchdowns with a twenty yard average. 274 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: So back to back twenty yard average, that's what I'm 275 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: talking about, Okay, I think I think that that's you know, 276 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: and it is. Compare that to his pro numbers. What 277 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 2: did the average a catch as a pro with the department. 278 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: You're trying to make a play. I think again, you're 279 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 2: going back to what can this guy do for this 280 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: football team. What's he capable of? Because you don't want 281 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 2: to just look at the numbers of what he did 282 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: in Washington, but you want to go back and see 283 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: what kind of numbers that he was doing in college 284 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: versus what he was doing in Washington to what he 285 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 2: could do maybe here. I mean he was underutilized in Washington. 286 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: I mean he only play yards per catch. I mean 287 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: thirteen point three for his career. Yeah, that's my four years. 288 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 4: And I mean he had one season where he had 289 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 4: twelve catches, another with five, another with twelve, and then 290 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 4: thirty last year and only three hundred yards like so. 291 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 2: Which which my point is in this and then I 292 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: think Diamie Brown can be a dynamic addition to this 293 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: wider group from the standpoint of here, here's a guy 294 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: that can go vertical. Brian Thomas Junior we know can 295 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: go vertical. Travis Hunter, we know he's got great speed, 296 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: great hands, the ability to make contested catches. You know. 297 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: So you're gonna have three legitimate guys that can run 298 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: deep most of the time when you're facing, or if 299 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 2: you looked at this team in the past, let's say 300 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: the Doug Peterson era, who is the deep ball guy? 301 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: Did you really have one? You really never have one? Right, 302 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 2: So you went from now all of a sudden to 303 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 2: having maybe one last year with Brian. Now you got 304 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: three two quarterback. I'm sitting there going, oh yeah, oh yeah, 305 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: of that tough guy. Let's go. 306 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 4: Let's come back in a moment, and we will see 307 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 4: how you evaluate practice lives, what you've been seeing the 308 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 4: last week, that organized team activities. 309 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: I'm even tracking stats and doing that whole view right 310 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 2: under our evaluation. That's what you do, man. 311 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 3: I can do it. 312 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: I can do it. We're back in a moment. It's 313 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy Hour. You're welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hours. 314 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: AP Shadwick, Jeff Lager when he was starting to discuss 315 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 2: the pass rushers of the Jeig Wars, Josh Heines, Allen 316 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: Trayvon Walker, Emmanuel Ogba in the group now as well, 317 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 2: who who's that last guy you mentioned that in Miami 318 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 2: with him forty something sacks in his career. I gotta say, 319 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 2: just going back to last year, well, I mean, what 320 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 2: what a gross mismanagement of the defensive line room. There 321 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 2: was last year. Yeah, in a lot of ways. 322 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 4: At what point, and I get it, We're it's the 323 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 4: off season, we're talking through it. Still, at what point 324 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 4: do we put that in the review trading camp? 325 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, when they Yeah, I mean it's when they 326 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 2: move forward. Well, I mean I kind of have it 327 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 2: in the review, but I mean I bring it up 328 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 2: just still. Well, I mean it's all part of relevant. 329 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: I mean, if you at Jaguars dot com, Eric Armsteen's 330 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: listed as a defensive tackle. Yeah. If you look at 331 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: a lot of other guys that are defensive linemen, what 332 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 2: is their designation? Yeah, yeah, there are some that say 333 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: d L defensive line right now. There are some that 334 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: are specifically defensive end, and there are some that are 335 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 2: specifically defensive tackle, but there are many that are defensive line. 336 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 4: Joshing Trayvon Walker, Miles Cole are the defensive ends. Three 337 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 4: of them defensive tackles, Devon Hamilton, Eric Armstead, Tyler Lacy 338 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 4: Mason Smith, Jordan Jefferson defensive lineman DL listings Eli Moster, 339 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 4: Emmanuel Ogba listed as a d line Danny Strigo, bj 340 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 4: Green the second rookie out of Colorado, Ethan Downs say 341 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 4: rookie out of Oklahoma, and Kivy Rowe was a rookie 342 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 4: out of Arkansas, and James Carpenter a rookie out of Indiana. 343 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 2: Those are the d linemen kind of interesting, right, I 344 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 2: mean last year there was that whole kind of debate, 345 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 2: where's Eric Armstead at? Where should he be at? Why 346 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 2: is he not playing inside? More? They're not getting any 347 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 2: pressure inside? 348 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 4: And there were two different stories, right, It was like, oh, 349 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 4: he wanted to part of the deal is that he's 350 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 4: gonna play outside. 351 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: That's what we heard earlier the season. At the end 352 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: of the season, I'm in the locker room. He said no, 353 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 2: And I asked him. 354 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 4: I asked him a question like are you better inside 355 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 4: or outside? He said, ah, I wanted to play inside. 356 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go back inside. Okay, I mean so, he said, 357 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 4: she said. 358 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: And was playing twenty five twenty twenty five snaps a game. Yeah, 359 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: And as a free agent, I mean, it was just 360 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: it was very so when I to go back to 361 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 2: my original statement, the mismanagement of that room. You had 362 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 2: a lot of defensive tackles and then essentially the third 363 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 2: best defensive end. You traded away to Seattle's right, Yeah, 364 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 2: before this regular season even began, and you kept a 365 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: lot of these defensive tackles and a lot of them 366 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 2: were basically of the same mold, and it didn't work 367 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: out very well. And the management, I think on game 368 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 2: day wasn't even better from a coaching standpoint. So, yeah, 369 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: very interesting in the year. Last year, that's one of 370 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: the most interesting years from a defensive standpoint that I 371 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: have ever seen in Jaguars history. Don't want to see 372 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 2: it again. It was interesting, but it was awful, awfully interesting, awful, brutal. 373 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: It was. 374 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: On pace to be like the worst defense in Jaguars history, 375 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 2: and you could make the argument that it was, but 376 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 2: the talent was nowhere near that. I mean, I've seen 377 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 2: bad defenses with bad personnel. That defense last year wasn't 378 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 2: that I had a personnel to be that bad. 379 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 4: Now let's get to maybe some of the reason behind that. 380 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 4: And we talked about weighing air quotes the option on defense. 381 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 2: Moving ahead, well, it looks like Devin Lloyd's trimmed up some. 382 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 2: It looks like Josh Haines Allen who's trimmed a little 383 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 2: bit away Trayvon Walker said he's only lost three pounds, 384 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 2: but his body feels the composition might feel a little different. 385 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 2: He hasn't done a test yet. They were playing pretty 386 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 2: heavy last year. Well, I think they were trying to 387 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 2: be the number one get off the bus club in 388 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: the National Football League. You know that when they all 389 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: look big and then all of a sudden, wait a minute, well, 390 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: how effective it? Does bigger mean more effective? No, not necessarily. 391 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 2: I remember, just from a personal standpoint, I was never 392 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: better when I was heavier or at my heaviest. When 393 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,239 Speaker 2: were you at your heaviest. You think I'm about two 394 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 2: seventy two here Jacksonville here, you know, But I think 395 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 2: I played my best when I was around sixty five. 396 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: Sixty seven was a little too much, And a lot 397 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 2: of people say, wow, it's only five pounds. Well, five 398 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: pounds can make a big difference. And Devin Lloyd last 399 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: year was like two fifty. He doesn't look anywhere close 400 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 2: to two fifty right now. No, he does not. Actually 401 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 2: he looks two thirty three fourth somewhere in that range, 402 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 2: which would be good for him. I mean he's got 403 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 2: to move, you know, you got to move to play linebacker. 404 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: This defense is going to be a defense that plays fast, 405 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: and I mean, obviously a huge year for him. No 406 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: fifth year option, finally year of his rookie deal. Look, 407 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 2: when you don't get the fifth year option, that's telling 408 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 2: you something, right. But I'm excited about Campanelli because you 409 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 2: know what if you if you go back and you 410 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 2: look at every team that the Jaguars played last year, 411 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 2: I remember raving about Green Bays defense in particular, not 412 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 2: so much Jordan Love, but their defense because they just 413 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 2: didn't make any mistakes. They were always in sync, they 414 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: were communicating at the pre snap to the play once 415 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 2: it got snapped, and they always seemed to be in 416 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 2: position to make plays, which was the entire exact opposite 417 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 2: for the Jaguars defense. More mental airs than anybody in 418 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 2: the National Football League last year, more explosives allowed in 419 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: the National Football League than anybody last year, and largely 420 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 2: due to the fact that they were having mental errors. 421 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: So excited about Anthony Campanilly's presence with this defense. To 422 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: get it all back to be in a disciplined state, 423 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 2: I think would be a good way to put it. 424 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 2: Jaguars Football is presented by Fresh from Florida it's always 425 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 2: in season, and of course the new season is right 426 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 2: around the corner. In the time to get your twenty 427 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 2: twenty five season ticket membership logs. It's right now. I'm 428 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 2: already in. I'm in, not yesterday, I'm already in. Right now. 429 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 2: We have to bank for every touchdown. Secure your seats 430 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 2: at Jaguars dot Com. Slash tickets were called nine oh 431 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: four six three three, two thousand. Got some good home 432 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: games too, man, I know right Kansas City Monday night, 433 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 2: kidding me Rams over in London. Yeah, you know they 434 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: got packages for that. Now. They saw on the website 435 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 2: they were having some Ticketmaster issues today. They was overloaded. 436 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 2: They were like the one hundred thousand people in the queue. 437 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 2: The attack of the box. Of course the division opponents, 438 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: but the Jets. Aaron Glenn led Jets. I think it's 439 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 2: going to be fun. Jeff Logerman Bowl, No, No, that 440 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 2: would They'd be Hugh Douglas Bowl, the Kyle Brady Bowl. 441 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: Who else can I Paul Frase a name from the past. 442 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 2: Who else has been with the Jets in the in 443 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 2: the Jaguars oh oh? The linebacker from Winona High School 444 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 2: in Birmingham has a brother on the defensive line. Williams, 445 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 2: Quincy Williams, Yes, Quincy see Williams. Good football player there 446 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 2: for the Jets. What happened there? You've probably not enough 447 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 2: patience for him to and uh, you know, there's a 448 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 2: very defined role for Quincy that allows him to be 449 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 2: at his best and the Jets, I think have done 450 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 2: a really good job of putting him in that position. 451 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: And then it just the maturity too. Got to give 452 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 2: him a little credit for that. Let's come back in 453 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,479 Speaker 2: a moment. We will see how you watch practice? Curious 454 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 2: about this? What do you watch this time? Everything? All 455 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 2: the time? Everything? Okay, don't don't kill the tea. We're 456 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 2: back in the I'll give you one little teaser. I'm 457 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna give you one opportunity when we come back. 458 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: I want you to guess what's the first thing that 459 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 2: I look at and when I walk out to practice 460 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 2: this year. 461 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 4: Back in a moment plenty ahead, it is Jaguars Happy Hour. 462 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna use it as excuse, but I mean 463 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 3: it definitely played a little I felt like I played 464 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 3: a little bit of toll on me close to the 465 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 3: end of the season as we kind of got on 466 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 3: but it had its pros and its constant. 467 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,959 Speaker 4: Trewan Walker after practice a couple of days ago, discussing 468 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 4: that extra weight from a season ago. Welcome back to 469 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 4: Shaguars Happy Hour, JP Shatterick with Jeff Lockerman, who left us. 470 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 2: With a question before the timeout, I did, what was 471 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 2: that question? Is JP? This year the new year under 472 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 2: Liam Combe, James Gladstone, Tony BISSELLI When I walk out 473 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 2: to practice, what's the first thing that I look for? 474 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to take a A I could guess a 475 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: number of different ways here. Clearly there's ninety one guys 476 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 2: out there right now, coaches and things. I would guess 477 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 2: a couple of things. Okay, no, you get one. Get one. 478 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 2: Just give me one and I'll say, yeah, your name, 479 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 2: and then we'll go to the next I'll go to 480 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 2: the next one. I think you look for who the 481 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 2: first player out there is? Okay? Is that right? No? 482 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 2: I think you look for where the gatorade cooler is. 483 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 2: That's a close second and third? Wow? Yeah? Second or third? Yeah, 484 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 2: but but not number one. I think you let me 485 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: know when you're ready for a hint. Yeah, I'm ready, Okay. 486 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 2: I think colors teal and white teal and white? What 487 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 2: is hunter? There? You go, well about black and white? Huh, 488 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 2: they're not wearing teal? Are they? Are? They? They will? 489 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 2: They wear teal or white white? On defense? There you go, Okay, 490 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 2: they do wear teal? Yeah, I guess they did. So 491 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 2: it's the first thing. I mean, it's it's kind of crazy, 492 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 2: but I mean's gonna be my first guess. But it's 493 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 2: too easy. 494 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 3: It is too easy. 495 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 2: Come on, man, everybody's looking at that. I mean, but 496 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 2: it's a it's amazing, right, I mean, when's the last 497 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 2: time you ever went out to a practice and you 498 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 2: were looking to see what position a guy was going 499 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 2: to line up at. I mean, it's and I remember 500 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 2: I walked out there today and I caught myself because, 501 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 2: I mean, the first thing I look for is he 502 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 2: wearing white? Is he wearing teal? I said to myself, 503 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: I've never done that. I've never done that, And all 504 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 2: of my time in the National Football League, I've never 505 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 2: walked out to a practice to see was a guy 506 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 2: wearing an offensive color jersey or a defensive color jersey. 507 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 2: It is pretty cool question for you. 508 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 4: When it comes to practice time in the regular season, 509 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 4: he'll just wear one jersey and switch sides of the 510 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 4: field during the week of practice. 511 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: Right, No, he's got a change from you. Yeah, you 512 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 2: have to. You have to. You can't have a guy 513 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 2: who's wearing a teal color jersey and the offense is 514 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 2: in teal and he's playing defense. I mean sure, but 515 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,239 Speaker 2: is he just created a little confusion? Would throw them 516 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 2: the ball death pads on? He's got to change, Yeah, yeah, 517 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 2: I mean what they would. My guess is they'll probably 518 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 2: have one of those pullover things, ah, like a tear 519 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 2: a little like velcrow that's like a sleeveless pullover jersey 520 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 2: that they can take on and off like they do 521 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: with special teams when they put on like a red 522 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: jersey or red caps on the helmet. You know, they 523 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 2: could probably do something like that. See that busy time 524 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: at Daily's place. By the way, Locks. 525 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 4: The twenty twenty five season is upon us and coming 526 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 4: up May thirty first, Kodak Black replacing Tea Pain two 527 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 4: days from now, sticks with Kevin Cronin Don Felder June second. 528 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 2: That's next week, Old Dominion June sixth. That'll be a 529 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 2: packed house. Plenty more ahead throughout the spring and summer, 530 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: dailiesplace dot com for tickets and show information. You got 531 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 2: one tonight across the road, right, Yeah, Tyler Chotters is 532 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: at the Vice Arena. Yeah, sweet tonight and check that out. 533 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 2: Give us your best rendition of his HITSI I can no, no, 534 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 2: come on, curios of it. You do not want me 535 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: even attempting to sing. Now, my daughter, she would be 536 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: a good person, asked to do something like that, but me, 537 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 2: uh no. 538 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 4: So you mentioned the first thing you see when do 539 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 4: you go out? The first thing I look for it 540 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 4: look for is Travis Hunter. 541 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 2: What's he wearing? After that? 542 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 4: Give us a like a synopsis of a regular OTA practice. 543 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 4: When you're out there, which side. 544 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 2: Are you on? Are you moving around? Like? What's what 545 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: stands out to you the most when you're out there? Well? 546 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 2: I move around. My eyes move around a lot. My 547 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 2: body doesn't move around a ton. I wonder why. But 548 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 2: you know, here's the thing about this time of year. 549 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 2: You can't really get any kind of gauge on the 550 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,719 Speaker 2: big guys. That's right, So there's not a lot of 551 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: evaluation other than okay, maybe a new guy. You just 552 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 2: want to see his body, see how he moves, because 553 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: you know, as a play by play guy, which you 554 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: have been color analyst, you want to see how body 555 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 2: types move so that you can identify that person on 556 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 2: the field without actually having to see the jersey number correct, 557 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 2: What do they look like, how do they move? So 558 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 2: you look at that's from that standpoint, But the seven 559 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: on seven guys is what you're watching this time of year. 560 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 2: Whi's the seven on seven for people that don't know, 561 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 2: and a practice you have different periods. Seven on seven 562 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 2: is essentially the seven skill position on offense versus the 563 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 2: seven guys that can be dropping in a coverage on defense. Linebackers, 564 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: defensive backs versus tight ends, wide receivers, running back, quarterback. 565 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 2: So you're watching those guys. You're looking for timing, you're 566 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 2: looking for the effort, the finish, the hustle. You look 567 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 2: at all of it. And you also in practice you're 568 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: looking at in the individual period, who's getting to the 569 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 2: front of the line, who leads by example, who's walking 570 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 2: off the field, how to coaches communicate to the players, 571 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 2: what players are having eye contact, which players are talking 572 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 2: ball on the sideline. I mean, So there's a lot 573 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 2: of things that you look at, but it's for the 574 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 2: most part. It's that seven on seven group, which a 575 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 2: lot of people would make the argument that the big guys, 576 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 2: the old nine on seven period is what you want 577 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 2: to watch to determine how good of a football team 578 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 2: it can be. Watch. Yeah, you can't watch that until 579 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,239 Speaker 2: they get pads on. Not doing that right now, that's 580 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 2: a limited opportunity. Even when they get pads on. There 581 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 2: you go, that's what you watch for. But you go 582 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 2: back and watch film too, or no this time of year. No, Now, 583 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 2: I'll watch film on some of the guys that they 584 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 2: sign in free agency, now, you know, just to kind 585 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 2: of get a gauge. And I've watched some of the 586 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 2: undrafted rookies, you know, watch some of their fan like 587 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 2: Danny Stregaw. I watched him to see what kind of 588 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 2: a player he is, just to give you a little 589 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 2: bit of a baseline. And then also when you go 590 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 2: talk to a guy, when you talk to guys, if 591 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 2: you actually have watched him and you understand the components 592 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 2: of his game a little bit, it makes for a 593 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 2: little bit better conversation because they know that you're you're 594 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 2: paying attention, that's right, And you don't want to start 595 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 2: talking to a guy and you don't have a clue 596 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 2: of where he's from, what he's done, what he's like. 597 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 2: And even guys like in free agency, I mean you 598 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 2: read their bios, you read where they come from. Perfect example, 599 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 2: Diamie Brown. I pulled those numbers up right because I 600 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 2: was reading about him. I wanted to know where he 601 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 2: came from, where he's been. So I mean stuff like that, 602 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,959 Speaker 2: I think it gives you a little better understanding of 603 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 2: how to paint the picture of the guys that you're watching. 604 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 2: Here's a question for you. Could you cut the team 605 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 2: right now? You wanted to? Absolutely too early? Nope, couldn't 606 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: do it. There's a lot of guys JP this time 607 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 2: of year look fantastic. Oh yes, and the first time 608 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 2: that they put ads on. I'm gonna give you a story. Yeah, 609 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 2: we give you a story. Okay. So when I was 610 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 2: with the Jets, we had I'm gonna I'm gonna keep 611 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 2: the names out of it. Well, come on, that's the 612 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 2: whole point. Well, I mean they're all out of the league, right, 613 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 2: all right? All right? Seven years old? Talking about seven years? 614 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 2: What do you mean seven? I was eight years old 615 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 2: we were the Jets, So I can't remember what year 616 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 2: this was, But we drafted a guy from southern cal 617 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 2: Baseli's school. Okay, but you make everybody's tough, eh. Okay, 618 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 2: So we drafted a guy linebacker, and all through mini 619 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 2: camp and then we had some semblance of OTAs, but 620 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 2: it wasn't anything structured like it is nowadays. He look good, 621 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 2: you know, moved well, looked the part, you know, body tight, 622 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 2: said linebacker. And the second round pick story told you 623 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 2: also probably a really good linebacker, right, second round pick. Sure, 624 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 2: first day of pads rolls around training camp. Okay, if 625 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 2: he looked good at training camp, no pads, first day 626 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 2: of pads roll around, He comes out of the locker 627 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 2: room with hand pads, form pads, elbow pads. And I 628 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 2: was like, this guy like the Jack Lambert of the seventies, right, 629 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: and he had all these pads on because he didn't 630 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 2: like contact and I and I kind of like he was. 631 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 2: He worried about getting hurt. And anyway, it was very impressive. 632 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 2: The first day in pads. It was a guy that 633 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 2: was not exactly one that enjoyed the contact to say that. 634 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 2: So did they start going after him in practice because 635 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 2: of that? 636 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:52,439 Speaker 5: Oh? 637 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? Can you imagine a rookie walking out of the 638 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 2: locker suit because where you're where? No pads? Yeah, for 639 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 2: the start of training camp, right, And he's got nothing 640 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 2: on his arms or anything like that, And all of 641 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 2: sudden we put shoulder pads on. He comes out there 642 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 2: like like the kids getting ready to be a hockey goal. 643 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 2: And he stuffed his whole jersey with paper towels and 644 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 2: rags so he doesn't get hurt from the puck or something. Wow, 645 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 2: we ragged him so bad, Like, dude, what's what teammates 646 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 2: are for? 647 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 5: Right? 648 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 2: What is what is all of the pads? Can you move? 649 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 2: Can I get you a neck? Role? He's like the 650 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 2: kid in the Christmas store the jacket? Do you got 651 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 2: a mouthpiece? How about some shin pads? Can I get 652 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 2: you some shin pads? Hey? You don't have any hip 653 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 2: pads and want me to go get you some hip pads? 654 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 2: Love that. 655 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 4: Let's come back in just a moment. Our final thoughts. 656 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 4: I didn't give his name. I think I have it. 657 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 2: If you want me to start to naming name, you 658 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 2: could probably figure that one out. I've got it right here, 659 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 2: name it nah? No, nah, keep him naming. Okay, back 660 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 2: in the moment, ten XL, Jaguars dot Com, Daguars YouTube. 661 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 2: It is Jaguars Happy Hour. 662 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 5: Let's go back to the start one. 663 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 2: You know, it's a big upside because basically went through 664 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 2: the Hey. 665 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 3: One of the trademarks of our leadership group is that 666 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 3: when there's an opportunity to be bold, we won't flinch. 667 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 3: You know, I don't know that there was much expectation 668 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 3: as much as it was just curiosity. 669 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 4: People will learn pretty quick once we start making legit 670 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 4: decisions that we know. 671 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 2: The James gang to leave and I were sitting in 672 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 2: the draft room, maybe he says, you think about maybe making. 673 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,399 Speaker 5: A phone called the Cleveland regardless of how things fall, 674 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 5: well enough in a position to be better tomorrow than 675 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 5: the ward today. 676 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 2: Pretty much immediately, at least in my mind, why not 677 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 2: to night it's still good for the same kind executing it. 678 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, that sounds good. 679 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 2: It wasn't at our mercy. 680 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 5: There was confidence that it wouldn't be able to get 681 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 5: done with the first. 682 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 2: A lot of people said, well boy, you gave it 683 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 2: a lot. My response is, did we we got the 684 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 2: best player? Time will tell to me it was a 685 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 2: small price to pay. Let's make history. Let's go fear 686 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 2: of the unknown. 687 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 3: That can be an inhibitors. 688 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: Giving the tombs up on our eyes fat and it's 689 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 1: never enjoyed. 690 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 2: The rest of the appreciate. 691 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 3: In the moments that I didn't take action out of 692 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,760 Speaker 3: fear I had looked back at and regretted. 693 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: Hey, Travis is James Gladstone with the Jacksonville Jaguars. 694 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 3: How you doing for the rest of my life when 695 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 3: there's the opportunity for me to face fear that challenge. 696 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 1: Because you're the one we've been hunting up. 697 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 2: I'm hopeful that that brings with it positive results. 698 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 5: But only time will tell. 699 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,879 Speaker 2: It's easier for the Hunch. Episode two entitled time will 700 00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:01,280 Speaker 2: Tell They've used Tonight Jaguars dot Com Jaguars YouTube seven 701 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:07,280 Speaker 2: o'clock Tonight logs forty minutes worth of inside the Trade 702 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 2: for Travis Hunter. It is absolutely must watch TV in 703 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 2: my opinion, I'm a huge fan of the Hunt. I've 704 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 2: been tooting that horn for the last couple of years now. 705 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 2: The job that the Jaguars production staff does with this 706 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 2: program is amazing. The access has never been as great 707 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 2: as it is now, which makes the storytelling even more compelling. 708 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 2: I will watch it tomorrow trust me, I won't watch 709 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 2: it tonight. You're kind of busy today, a little busy tonight. 710 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 2: But in fact, on the way in here today, I 711 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 2: took an uber in today. Not because I was drinking 712 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 2: heavily today, but because we're meeting the family down here 713 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 2: today and we're all being one vehicle. Hey, no judgment. 714 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 2: I wasn't day drinking. And I was talking to the 715 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 2: guy John that was my driver, had a really nice 716 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 2: car by the way and trying to get free rides, 717 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 2: you know, and I was telling him about this program, 718 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 2: The Hunt, and I told him, I said, look, I said, 719 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 2: this is an incredible show. You need to watch it. 720 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 2: And he asked me immediately. Is it available on YouTube? 721 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 2: And I said that's where it's at, so check it out. 722 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 2: So he said he's all fired up to watch it. 723 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 2: He didn't even know that something like that existed. So 724 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 2: I'm here to tell you, folks, if you love the 725 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 2: Jaguars and you love football, you love compelling stories, watch 726 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 2: The Hunt. 727 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 4: I'm going to guess that the actual selection of Travis 728 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 4: Hunter was less than forty minutes into the draft real time. 729 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 4: This is forty minutes worth of content around that moment, 730 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 4: which is pretty cool with info and behind the scenes and. 731 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 2: How many episodes total is it going to be? I 732 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 2: don't know. There's so much stuff that. I mean, this 733 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 2: whole crew over here has got stuff on the. 734 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 4: Floor and in the deepen the archives, and they're gonna 735 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 4: dig it out as we go along here. 736 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 2: And it's always ended kind of once the season began, right, 737 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,760 Speaker 2: Could it end up continuing into the season, that would 738 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 2: be cool? Huh hm? Interesting? I mean, are you gonna 739 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 2: was somebody or I'm just saying you're asking now, I 740 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 2: would watch it, right, Yeah, well why not? Well, I mean, 741 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 2: as long as you're not you gotta you gotta be smart, 742 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 2: and our our production department is smart. There are some 743 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 2: that aren't. I was gonna say, hey, I'll leave this 744 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 2: to you. I'm out of this one. I'm just kidding. 745 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 2: Have a little fun there, have a little fun there, 746 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 2: but I'm excited about the hunt. Folks, go to YouTube, 747 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 2: type in Jacksonville Jaguar at the Hunt, the name of 748 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 2: the team, subscribe, check it out. Check it out, man, 749 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 2: and don't watch too. If you haven't seen one, yeah, 750 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 2: go back and watch one before you watch two. Good idea. 751 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 2: They're kind of in order to ignore the ones in 752 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 2: the past that have had previous regimes all that kind 753 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:19,439 Speaker 2: of stuff. Yeah, I mean it's it's time to move. 754 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:25,959 Speaker 2: We're looking ahead. Earlier earlier at the review, still talking 755 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 2: about a defense. Well, you got to kind of know 756 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,879 Speaker 2: where you've been to understand where you're headed and why 757 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 2: why we have uh all jumped on the direction that 758 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 2: this team is traveling at. Why we're all kind of 759 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 2: on board? That's deep thoughts. What's in that coffee anyway tonight? 760 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 2: My goodness, deep No whiskey. They didn't have that option 761 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 2: over there at coffee station here at the mech I 762 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 2: would say so no, so probably not, although you know 763 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't mind. One of those Irish cream things 764 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 2: in here. Wouldn't be a bad idea. It may not 765 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 2: be a great idea before a radio show, Oh it 766 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 2: might make it really interesting. I had a guy the 767 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 2: last one. I had a guy. Not to name any 768 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 2: names again, why don't you ever named names? Man? Come on, 769 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 2: say it with your I had a guy that I 770 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 2: worked with in the past doing one of these very 771 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 2: shows that would come in with a coffee cup kind 772 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 2: of like this, and it didn't necessarily have coffee in it. Hey, 773 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 2: and by the time the show got towards the end 774 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 2: of the first hour, sometime second hour, things got a 775 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 2: little interesting. Uh huh, Yeah, Okay, we'll stay away from that. 776 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 2: I think I'm not I'm not a proponent or one 777 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 2: that likes the magic coffee. I'm okay with regular coffee. 778 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,800 Speaker 4: I'm not going to ask you about the magic coffee. 779 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 4: That's a difference. Hey, next week, oht what there's noth. 780 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 2: One tomorrow I suppose, and then there's what four on 781 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 2: the schedule next week, the final week of OTAs, and 782 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,439 Speaker 2: then the week after that three day mandatory mini camp 783 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,800 Speaker 2: and then it's all over. Yeah. The mini camp is 784 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 2: really what I'm looking forward to. I expect that to 785 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 2: be kind of pretty competitive. I mean, the OTAs that 786 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 2: they're doing right now is it doesn't have that. Not 787 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,840 Speaker 2: all of them, Like today was kind of chill, but 788 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 2: some of them are competitive. Some of them they scale 789 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 2: it back a little bit. And the mini camp I 790 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 2: would expect to be highly competitive. And I'm looking forward 791 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 2: to that, which I believe the tenth, eleven, twelfth of June, 792 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,760 Speaker 2: looking forward to that very much. There'll be some surprise 793 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:47,800 Speaker 2: announcements coming up regarding one of those days. Okay, but 794 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 2: we'll tease that stay tuned, stay tuned. I like that idea. 795 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,399 Speaker 2: Stay tuned. You don't even know what I'm talking about. Well, 796 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe Travis Hunter has a jersey that's half 797 00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 2: white and half teal, because that's the first thing I'm 798 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 2: looking for. Maybe, maybe so. 799 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 4: But the other Trevor Lawrence Ters is like that Clemson Jaguars. 800 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 4: I think I've seen people with those. I've never seen 801 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 4: fifty to fifty. 802 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 2: Down in the middle. I'm excited to see what he's 803 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 2: going to do this year. I'm that serious about this. Yeah, yeah, 804 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, man, because you know, here's the reality. 805 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 2: If you look back and see what Liam Khne did 806 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:33,360 Speaker 2: with Baker Mayfield, you look at and I believe the 807 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:38,359 Speaker 2: Jaguars have a very smart offensive coordinator who's very young, 808 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 2: who is going to be a hot coaching candidate at 809 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 2: some point, in Grant Yudinsky. You combine Liam Khne Yudinsky 810 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 2: with Trevor, who is as hard working and as mature 811 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 2: as any quarterback that you could have. I think that 812 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 2: that's going to be a really strong recipe for success 813 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 2: this year. And I'm not saying they're going to win 814 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 2: at all or anything of that nature. I just think 815 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 2: it's going to be really good for this football team, 816 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 2: and I think it's going to be really good for 817 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,360 Speaker 2: Trevor this year. And if you look at what's happening 818 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 2: in front of him, and then also what's happening on 819 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,839 Speaker 2: the periphery of him, which is the talent, and then 820 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 2: also behind him, all of those areas have been I 821 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:29,320 Speaker 2: think upgraded and made to have more competition than arguably 822 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 2: ever before in his tenure here. A lot of it too. 823 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 4: Liam Cohen talked about this and Trevor has talked about 824 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 4: it this offseason, is that the work on footwork that 825 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 4: kind of goes with the progressions in this offense, and 826 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 4: it'll just continue to be a work in progress for him. 827 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,840 Speaker 2: I think, well, that's what this time of year is for. 828 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 2: If you go back and you look at the very 829 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,440 Speaker 2: first ota that they had, it wasn't a great day 830 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 2: for Trevor, you know. So part of I think acclimating 831 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 2: to the new system is getting an understanding of what's 832 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 2: expected and how to do it from a footwork standpoint, 833 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,959 Speaker 2: Because the reality is, how many times have you heard 834 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 2: me JP saying watching film on a quarterback and saying 835 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 2: he's got no chance because his feet ain't right. I 836 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 2: mean with quarterbacks, if you watch their feet, you can 837 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,840 Speaker 2: literally a lot of times watch film, ignore where the 838 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 2: ball is, watch the feet of the quarterback. Okay, like 839 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 2: put a piece of paper over the screen so all 840 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,280 Speaker 2: you can see is to watch the feet of the quarterback. 841 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 2: And then with I would say seventy five percent accuracy, 842 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 2: you can say whether or not that was a successful 843 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 2: player or not based on just watching the feet of 844 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 2: the quarterback. And that's true. And this is the time 845 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 2: of year where you've got to break the old habits, 846 00:47:52,320 --> 00:48:00,800 Speaker 2: establish the new and essentially evolve into the offense with 847 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,280 Speaker 2: your whole body. And that with a quarterback. Obviously, defeat 848 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 2: are critical. Run game will help too well. And two 849 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 2: new running backs in that back. So it's gonna be 850 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 2: fascinating to see how camp goes there. I can't wait 851 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,280 Speaker 2: to see it. Look, competition's great, man. Look in the past, 852 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 2: that was I think a position group that had very 853 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 2: little competition. You added Tank Bigsby. But before that you're like, 854 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 2: did they add anybody out of consequence? No? Like last year, 855 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 2: if you looked at the running back room, did you 856 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 2: have any idea or any kind of curiosity about who's 857 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 2: going to make the team at the running back spot 858 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 2: or how the roles would be defined. Nope. How does 859 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,279 Speaker 2: that look this year? I mean, yeah, there's all a 860 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:56,280 Speaker 2: whole new group. You got Twoton, Alan and Jackson, Quinn, Allen, Tank, Bigsby. 861 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 2: Who's going to get Robinson? Yeah? Who's gonna get what? 862 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 2: I think that's the beauty of what's kind of changed 863 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 2: with this team last year? Offensive line? Did you ever 864 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 2: have an idea or did you ever think for a 865 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,840 Speaker 2: minute last year going to the training camp? You know what, 866 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 2: I don't know who's going to start at left guard? 867 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,919 Speaker 2: I'm not sure, or did you know every position where 868 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 2: it was going to be. It's tough you had an idea, right, 869 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 2: that's right? This year, I think there's competition, legitimate competition 870 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 2: at I would say three positions. 871 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 4: We talked about renaming the positions on the defensive line. 872 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 4: All the offensive line are listed as OL now on 873 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:43,839 Speaker 4: the roster. Hey, wide open, Wide Open Blogs. Will see 874 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 4: you in two weeks looking forward to this program. 875 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,360 Speaker 2: Jeffe in two weeks during a mini camp, Yes, Jeff 876 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 2: flagoing or thanks to David Chobritt, Reeber, Joe Fortunato, and 877 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,759 Speaker 2: thanks to you for listening to Jaguars Happy Hour 878 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 1: The