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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Ink

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Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing, and we are gonna get you

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Speaker 1: set for this huge Sunday Night AFC North title game

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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, the Ravens versus the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: It all comes down to.

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Speaker 1: This for the right to go to the playoffs, and

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Speaker 1: I can't wait for this game.

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Speaker 2: Garrett.

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Speaker 3: I thought Kyle Hamilton summed it up pretty well. He

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Speaker 3: said that he talked to the whole defense about how

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Speaker 3: this is one of those games that's gonna.

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Speaker 4: Live in infamy. That was his quote.

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Speaker 3: And we've seen all those clips over the years about

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Speaker 3: iconic Ravens Steelers games, and like we could all mention

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Speaker 3: some of the highlights. Holotty not a break in Big

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Speaker 3: Ben's nose on the flip side at San Antonio Brown

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Speaker 3: reaching across the goal line.

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Speaker 4: I try to erase that memory.

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Speaker 3: But like there's there's moments on both sides of this

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Speaker 3: thing that I'm sure we're going to see throughout the

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Speaker 3: Sunday Night game and the lead up to it, and

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Speaker 3: the and the teaser and promo clips all that stuff,

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Speaker 3: and this one has all the makings of a game

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Speaker 3: that's that's going to be in that trailer in the

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Speaker 3: future years like this has. This has the billing of

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Speaker 3: a heavyweight fight between two teams that don't like each other,

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Speaker 3: that have everything on the line, and now they get

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Speaker 3: to hash it out on the final game of the

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Speaker 3: regular season. And I think the players and the team

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Speaker 3: have definitely an understanding of what it means and the

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Speaker 3: significance of it and the magnitude of it, and they're excited,

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Speaker 3: Like I think everyone feels like this is what you

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Speaker 3: sign up for, this is what you want, and now

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Speaker 3: they have a chance to go play their way into

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Speaker 3: the postseason.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens certainly have momentum on their side coming into

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Speaker 1: this game. You know, you play a great game in

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Speaker 1: Green Bay, you run right down the Packers' throats in

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Speaker 1: their place, and then the flip side the Steelers like,

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Speaker 1: this is not what they wanted, right, They wanted to

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Speaker 1: knock the Ravens out last week. This is not the

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Speaker 1: game they wanted, and so certainly the Ravens have momentum,

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Speaker 1: and then it just got boosted this week with the

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Speaker 1: return of Lamar Jackson's in the practice field. Lamar told

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Speaker 1: us today that he is one hundred going to play

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Speaker 1: in this game. That's great to hear, and so the

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Speaker 1: Ravens have the star quarterback back. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: he might be the healthiest that he's been in quite

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Speaker 1: some time. He is on track to have a full

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Speaker 1: week of practice for the first time since before the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings game in early November. I'm excited for this

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Speaker 1: version of Lamar Jackson because we started to see it

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Speaker 1: in that New England game and you were like, all right,

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Speaker 1: and even the couple weeks leading into that, and now

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Speaker 1: assuming that his back doesn't flare up on him from

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Speaker 1: that back confusion that knocked him out of this last week,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what Lamar Jackson brings the table

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Speaker 3: When you go back and look at it, I don't

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Speaker 3: think we've really seen Lamar totally healthy since like Week three. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he went down to that Chiefs game with a hamstring injury,

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Speaker 3: and then from there he's been battling a variety of

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Speaker 3: different injuries hamstring, knee, ankle, back, like, it's been a

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Speaker 3: variety of things. And even like the last few weeks

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Speaker 3: leading up to when he had the back injury against

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Speaker 3: the Patriots, he was still playing with tape on his ankles,

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Speaker 1: I think the Patriots game, he had come out of it.

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Speaker 1: He said he was feeling really good in that game

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Speaker 3: He did look good and it looked like he was

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Speaker 3: that we haven't seen a fully healthy Lamar since very

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Speaker 3: early in the season. And it sounds kind of crazy,

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Speaker 3: but the being on the shelf this last game with

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Speaker 3: And now you recover from the back injury. And as

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Speaker 3: like that's that's a massive boost that it was funny.

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Speaker 3: I reporter asked Derrick Henry today about, like, hey, what

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Speaker 3: is it you get excited about having Lamar Jackson back?

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Speaker 3: And he was like, what do you mean, like, of course,

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Speaker 1: I definitely get the sense that Lamar is very excited

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Speaker 1: especially given all the noise. And that's what he called it,

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Speaker 1: and I agree with it that the noise around him

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Speaker 1: of you know, talking about Lamar's work ethic and questioning

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Speaker 1: that and things like that. Lamar Jackson, when asked about

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Speaker 2: And when you're not, you know, playing.

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Speaker 1: As well as people expected and you're not winning as

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Speaker 1: many games like that, this stuff always happens, you know.

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Speaker 1: And even people questioning the severity of the back injury,

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Speaker 1: Why wasn't he playing, you know, all this stuff, and

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Speaker 1: it's different from twenty twenty one when Lamar went down

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Speaker 1: all know, if Lamar Jackson goes out on Sunday night

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Speaker 1: all that stuff is out the window. Yeah, nobody, nobody's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it definitely seemed that way. And again he said

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Speaker 3: And I will say one thing about Lamar that I've

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Speaker 3: there's this conversation, and certainly last week and into this week,

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Speaker 3: it all for five minutes without hearing about Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 3: and this all this talk. So I think he handles

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Speaker 3: all that well. He was specifically asked today like one

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Speaker 3: no way. And and then he was also even asked

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Speaker 3: And I think that too much is often made of that,

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Speaker 3: you know that that line of thinking here for a

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, his contract is always something that's out there,

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Speaker 1: he has a big number next year and what's going

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Speaker 1: for tomorrow, like he he That's what he said to

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Speaker 2: like I'm not you know, all that.

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Speaker 1: That's just outside chatter, like Lamar's mind is not right

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Speaker 1: And we all know Lamar, you know, being his own

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Speaker 1: They're gonna come to that, I'm sure this offseason and

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Speaker 1: there will be talks about that. But like right now,

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Speaker 3: Look, I think that these two days of practice were

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Speaker 3: big for him, just to see how the back felt.

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Speaker 3: And the Ravens went out there and practice outside Wednesday

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Speaker 3: and Thursday, and it was very cold.

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Speaker 4: Very cold days. And it's gonna be cold the Sunday

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be in the low twenties, a little bit

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Speaker 3: The Raves have been playing nothing but cold games here

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Speaker 4: So they're familiar with playing in.

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Speaker 3: Cold atmospheres and and that's what it's gonna be again

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Speaker 3: on Sunday night. So he got a tank chance to

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Speaker 3: gonna wear some additional protection. He's gonna wear the flack jacket.

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Speaker 3: They are the rib protector which he was wearing out

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Speaker 3: additional patty around those those ribs back area, which was

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Speaker 3: not a surprise concerning the injury that he is coming back.

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Speaker 2: And I want to protect that for sure.

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Speaker 1: One other guy can't wait to see Sunday night is

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Speaker 1: Derrick Henery coming off a career high thirty six carries,

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Speaker 1: you know, four touchdowns, two hundred plus yards. And the

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Speaker 1: question this week is do the Ravens run it back

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Speaker 1: pun intended? And you know, Derrick Henry's ready, he said,

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Speaker 1: think the question here is can the Ravens do that,

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Speaker 3: a bad interception too. So long story short, here. The

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Speaker 3: Ravens need to protect the football. That has been an

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Speaker 3: issue with times this year, and I think that that

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Speaker 3: is going to be the number one thing and ultimately

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Speaker 3: determining who wins this game.

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Speaker 1: You go down the statistical rankings of where these two

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Speaker 1: teams line up. The Steelers have the twenty sixth ranked

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Speaker 1: offense in the league. They have the twenty seventh ranked

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Speaker 1: defense in the league, and so you say, how how

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Speaker 1: are they playing for a division championship. They're near the

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Speaker 1: bottom of the league in offense and defense. And the

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Speaker 1: reason is you keep scrolling down and turnover marchin. They're

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Speaker 1: plus eleven, fourth best in the league. They're in the

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Speaker 1: league leaders. They're number three in the league in takeaways

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Speaker 1: with twenty six, and so they take the ball away.

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Speaker 1: How many times have we talked about this with the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: They make it ugly, they muck it up. It's a

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Speaker 1: nasty turnover battle.

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Speaker 2: It's ugly.

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Speaker 1: That's the game that they want to suck you into. Because,

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Speaker 1: like you're saying, and I believe it to be true.

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Speaker 1: In this game, the Ravens I think have a better

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Speaker 1: team than the Steelers. I just think they're better. But

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Speaker 1: let's look at the record here since two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers lead the series twenty to fifteen. Steelers are

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Speaker 1: more one more than they've lost, and the Ravens have

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Speaker 1: often had the better team in that scenario. And so

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Speaker 1: it's because the Ravens have ripped the ball away from

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Speaker 1: the Ravens and gotten turnovers, and they've gotten sacks, critical sacks.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're the Steelers are again among the league

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Speaker 1: leaders in sacks. The Ravens are near the bottom of

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Speaker 1: the league. So it's these impact plays. And for the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: part of it is certainly self inflicted. They just can't

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Speaker 1: have self inflicted mistakes.

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Speaker 2: Against the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like you know that in the film room this week,

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Speaker 3: the Steelers defensive coaches of Mike Tomlin, they're talking about

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Speaker 3: punching out the football.

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Speaker 4: They're talking about.

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Speaker 1: Derek Henry is gonna run in a bunch. But here

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Speaker 1: here's Derrick Henry. You know, fumble from earlier from this season,

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Speaker 1: right like earlier this year.

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Speaker 2: That was a huge talking point with.

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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry after the Buffalo fumble, Detroit fumble, and you

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Speaker 1: know it reared its head again in the Patriot loss. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Dereck Henry is going to be dead set on protecting

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Speaker 1: that football, but the Steelers are going to be dead

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Speaker 1: set on trying to make sure that doesn't happen and

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Speaker 1: ripping it away from him and punching at it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's and it's not.

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Speaker 3: Look, it's not just Derek, it's really all the ballcarriers

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Speaker 3: and the Ravens have to make sure that they're protecting it.

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Speaker 3: Lamar Ja, Isaiah likely all those guys, and and so

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Speaker 3: that is I think that is going to to not

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Speaker 3: only be a focus, I think that is going to

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Speaker 3: be part of the Steelers game plan and part of

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Speaker 3: their priority.

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Speaker 1: And that's how the Steelers could win this game. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they don't have DK metcalf in this game. They're leading

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Speaker 1: receiver who gave the Ravens fits on go balls and

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Speaker 1: outside of numbers throws, which we've all seen in recent weeks,

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Speaker 1: especially in Green Bay, has been the Ravens weakness, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens defensive weakness in recent weeks. You caught a

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Speaker 1: break by DK metcalfe that being on the field, because

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Speaker 1: he would they would attack that some more. And so

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Speaker 1: when I look at this Steelers offense, and yeah, they

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Speaker 1: have other playmakers, and I think there're two running backs,

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Speaker 1: Allen Warren and Kenneth Gamewell are really good players, and

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Speaker 1: the Ravens need to do well against the run. They

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Speaker 1: also need to do really well in the passing game

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Speaker 1: with those two guys, because they get the ball in

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Speaker 1: their hands in a bunch of creative different ways. But

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Speaker 1: when it all boils down to it, like I have

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Speaker 1: a hard time seeing the Steelers putting up twenty five

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Speaker 1: plus points and this just being an offensive shootout. The

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Speaker 1: way that the Steelers win this game is getting turnovers

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Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers plan is being lights out again like

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Speaker 1: he was several weeks ago here in Baltimore where he

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Speaker 1: seemingly couldn't miss. Yeah, right, that is their recipe for

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Speaker 1: a win without DK Metcalf and with the way that

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Speaker 1: this offense is.

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Speaker 2: Kind of banged up right now, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Agree with you.

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Speaker 3: And like Rogers is, he's outside of that game against

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Speaker 3: the Ravens. He's not really been pushing the ball down

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Speaker 3: the field much this year, not at all, not.

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Speaker 2: At all, but he did it was out of his

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Speaker 2: mind that though, Yeah, that day.

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Speaker 3: And so when you take away your downfield threat, your

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Speaker 3: biggest downfield threat. I think it changes the equation. I

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Speaker 3: do think I still expect them, given the success that

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Speaker 3: they had, to take some shots. Marquez Valdez, Scantling, Calvin Austin,

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Speaker 3: you know, assuming he's back. He missed last week's game

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Speaker 3: against the Browns because of a hamstring injury, so he's

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Speaker 3: got some speed out there on the edge. So I

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Speaker 3: still think that they will take some shots down the

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Speaker 3: field because of the success again that they had in

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Speaker 3: the last game. But obviously not having dk Metcalf out

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Speaker 3: there changes things to a large degree. And then I

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Speaker 3: think he'll try to be quick and efficient to get

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Speaker 3: the ball out of his hands quickly. I don't think

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Speaker 3: there's going to be too many opportunities to get after

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Speaker 3: him and hit him, just because like look, they ran

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Speaker 3: up against the Browns last week, Miles Garrett was chasing

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Speaker 3: the sack record and he was getting rid of the

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Speaker 3: ball so quickly. Didn't give Miles Garrett any opportunity to

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Speaker 3: get to him. And I think it could be a

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Speaker 3: similar story in this game where he gets rid of

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Speaker 3: the ball in a hurry. Now, their offense didn't do

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Speaker 3: much of anything against the Browns, so if they're getting

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Speaker 3: rid of the ball quickly, but not putting up any

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Speaker 3: points and sure signing up for that.

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Speaker 4: I'm good with that.

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Speaker 3: But I do think that they will get rid of

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Speaker 3: the ball quickly while also taking a few shots down

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Speaker 3: the field and testing these corners.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that. It bothes on the Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: This could be the last game of his career. He

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Speaker 1: had a Hall of Fame career. He said this week

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Speaker 1: he's not sure exactly what the future holds. It kind

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Speaker 1: of was assumed that this was his final year. He

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Speaker 1: signed a one year contract with the Steelers, but he

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Speaker 1: has enjoyed his his year in Pittsburgh. I want to

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Speaker 1: see the Ravens end it right here this They could

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Speaker 1: close the chapter on Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: And they're gonna need to play really well in.

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Speaker 1: The secondary to do so, because the Steelers have been

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Speaker 1: going more empty formation, putting the game in Aaron Rodgers' hands.

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Speaker 1: And I Aaron Rodgers is gonna take over this game

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Speaker 1: if it could be his last. You think Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: is just gonna take the play call and run it

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Speaker 1: as as called. He's gonna He's gonna put it on

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Speaker 1: his shoulders, and so can the Ravens stop a rod I.

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Speaker 4: Think it will come down to that.

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Speaker 3: It'll come out the Ravens defensively, the Ravens' ability to

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Speaker 3: run the ball with effectiveness, protecting the football, and then

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Speaker 3: slowing down and stopping Aaron Rodgers. It should be an

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Speaker 3: awesome game. It's Sunday Night football, the final game of

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Speaker 3: the regular season. Again, the Ravens win this game, they

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Speaker 3: win the AFC North or in the playoffs they lose it,

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Speaker 3: or they tie it.

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Speaker 2: Lose or tie that email again.

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Speaker 3: I'm just mentioned making sure they mention that. Then uh,

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Speaker 3: then the Steelers end up winning the division and go

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Speaker 3: to the playoffs. This is an elimination game, so uh,

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Speaker 3: everything is on the line.

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Speaker 1: I don't like you even just saying these words. Just tie, well,

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Speaker 1: then the Steelers, you know, eliminated, the Steelers got to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Just just everything about I don't want to hear you

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Speaker 2: say those work.

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Speaker 3: Look, Ravens know they take care of business. They keep

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Speaker 3: playing like you win. You stay on the court's so

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Speaker 3: as always, you can email us at the lounge at

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Speaker 3: Ravens dot NFL dot net. Thank you so much for listening.

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Speaker 3: We will be back with you again after that game

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Speaker 3: on Sunday