Speaker 1: Hello, Hello.
Speaker 2: How you doing, man, I'm good.
Speaker 1: I've been showing. I'm making some chicken and vice right now,
Speaker 1: waiting to tell you this story I have.
Speaker 3: What is the story you have?
Speaker 1: Well? All right, So I have this friend. I've been
Speaker 1: friends with him since high school and I take family
Speaker 1: trips usually every year with my family to our home country,
Speaker 1: and he kind of invited himself on this trip a
Speaker 1: couple of months ago. Well, not him, his mom. His
Speaker 1: mom came up to me and was like, Hey, I'm
Speaker 1: going to surprise him with tickets on your family trip.
Speaker 1: And I was like, what, Like, okay, I guess. So
Speaker 1: that was where it started.
Speaker 3: Wait, step back real quick. So okay, his mom. So,
Speaker 3: first of all, where's your home country?
Speaker 1: Uh, Honduras, Duras.
Speaker 3: So your friend, his mom comes up and is like,
Speaker 3: I'm surprising hit myself on with tickets to go to
Speaker 3: Honduras with you. Yes, exactly, bizarre.
Speaker 1: Okay continue, yeah, yeah, all right, So we go on
Speaker 1: this trip. We go on the trip finally, and it's
Speaker 1: around New Year's and uh, my mom has a house there.
Speaker 1: So we have a little New Year's party on the
Speaker 1: thirty first with all the family over, like all my uncles,
Speaker 1: all my aunts, every single one of my cousins is there.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a family function, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: my family likes to drink alcohol, and you know, they
Speaker 1: like to have a good time. People there were drunk
Speaker 1: and stuff. They weren't having a good time. But my friend,
Speaker 1: he likes to drink a lot, so he kind of
Speaker 1: got blackout wasted and drank these three entire bottles of
Speaker 1: like the cheapest hardest liquor that they sell over there,
Speaker 1: and uh, he ended up asking my cousins around for
Speaker 1: coke throughout the night and I had to find out
Speaker 1: for one of them. And that was kind of the
Speaker 1: first red flag of many on this trip that he
Speaker 1: invited himself on. But I kind of brushed it under
Speaker 1: the rug the next morning, and you know, I'm a
Speaker 1: good friend. But then we go on this another like
Speaker 1: we go on this island, on h on this in
Speaker 1: my country or whatever, and he starts talking to my
Speaker 1: one of my closest cousins. She's around my age as well,
Speaker 1: and he starts talking to her like privately on WhatsApp
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, like what what are they talking about?
Speaker 1: And then basically he's he tells my girlfriend eventually that
Speaker 1: he starts falling for my cousin and starts having a
Speaker 1: crush on her, and how he makes him feel so
Speaker 1: like himself, and how he's falling.
Speaker 2: Head over deals for her.
Speaker 1: And he was waiting till after the trip they even
Speaker 1: tell me any of this because he didn't want to
Speaker 1: ruin his chances of doing anything with her while on
Speaker 1: this trip, so he figured he'd just wait until after.
Speaker 1: I'm finding all of this out for my girlfriend. Mind you,
Speaker 1: he's not telling me anything because he's telling my girlfriend
Speaker 1: this stuff now.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, do we know? I mean, how does
Speaker 3: your cousin feel about your friends?
Speaker 1: Well, to be honest with you, she actually entertained it
Speaker 1: as well, so she kind of like, because she's really
Speaker 1: friendly and all this stuff, so she's you know, like
Speaker 1: being talking to him, being nice, and she started, I guess,
Speaker 1: being kind of flirting with him as well, you know.
Speaker 1: And I don't really honestly, like, honestly, I don't.
Speaker 2: Care what they do.
Speaker 1: They're adults. I'm not mad over the fact that they're
Speaker 1: talking or whatever. I'm more so mad about the fact
Speaker 1: that he didn't tell me about it.
Speaker 2: Like if he would have just told me, I would.
Speaker 1: Have been like, Okay, cool, dude, I just don't want
Speaker 1: to see it, or do you know, like I like
Speaker 1: he yeah, you know, like I don't really care about that.
Speaker 1: It's more so how we went about.
Speaker 4: It, you know.
Speaker 3: All right, all right, So there was the getting a
Speaker 3: little too drunk, He's hitting on your cousin. What else
Speaker 3: is going on?
Speaker 2: What else is going on? All right?
Speaker 1: So we have another family party at one of my
Speaker 1: aunt's house a couple of days later, celebrating one of
Speaker 1: my aunt's birthdays. And we're all there and during the night,
Speaker 1: I had this other cousin that it's kind of like
Speaker 1: more of a distant cousin, but but I met her
Speaker 1: on this trip. So she was at this party, and
Speaker 1: he met her on the New Year's party at my
Speaker 1: house and he saw her there. Mind, this is a
Speaker 1: different cousins, a completely different cousin.
Speaker 3: He's just he's just going after all your cousins.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: He kind of treated his vacation like a like a
Speaker 1: like a trip to the club, like he was trying
Speaker 1: to find where the coke was, trying to get as
Speaker 1: drunk as he can and trying to hit on as
Speaker 1: many girls as he can but except the pool is
Speaker 1: like my family, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe his mom maybe that's why his mom invited him,
Speaker 3: because he just like she wanted him to find a
Speaker 3: girlfriend or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know, honestly, Honestly, he said he when I
Speaker 1: talked to him about it, eventually he told me that
Speaker 1: he told me that, oh, like, it's not my fault,
Speaker 1: like it just happened, like you know, like like you like,
Speaker 1: I didn't expect to just uh fall for your cousin
Speaker 1: and this and that. Oh, but I didn't tell you
Speaker 1: he actually made out with this other cousin.
Speaker 3: I was telling you about what happened. What happened at
Speaker 3: this this party of your aunt's party.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So she tells one of my cousins, she's like, oh,
Speaker 1: tell your my friend's name. She's like, tell him that
Speaker 1: I want to say bye to him, because I guess
Speaker 1: she was about to leave. So they call him into
Speaker 1: the room. He's about it. He thinks he's about to
Speaker 1: say bye to her, and then apparently on his like
Speaker 1: what he told me was that, uh, she grabbed him
Speaker 1: and then kissed him, and then he just couldn't say no,
Speaker 1: so he went along with it. And then made out
Speaker 1: with her essentially, and then he told this like thirty seconds.
Speaker 2: After it happened.
Speaker 1: He's like, I just made out with your cousin or whatever.
Speaker 1: He's like, He's like, I wasn't gonna say no like
Speaker 1: this and that, Like he was kind of flexing it
Speaker 1: a little bit when he came into the room.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's bragging about making out with your cousin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's drunk too, so it kind of makes
Speaker 1: it a little worse. He kind of like is way
Speaker 1: more energetic and enthusiastic when he's drunk.
Speaker 3: You know, Damn this man, this man invited himself on
Speaker 3: your family trip and then made out with your cousin.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly exactly.
Speaker 3: That's that's very funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I actually ended up talking to him about this
Speaker 1: after the trip, and during the trip, I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I was kind of cut off guard, but
Speaker 1: I wasn't really thinking about it too much because I
Speaker 1: was just trying to enjoy my family trip. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't see my family too often, Like they all
Speaker 1: lived in Honduras and I live uh in the States,
Speaker 1: so I you know, whenever I see them, I want
Speaker 1: to be around them and stuff. But I was just
Speaker 1: focusing on that. But when I came back here, I
Speaker 1: kind of started thinking about the situation more. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, like those things he did was kind
Speaker 1: of fucked up, like I don't know, like, and then
Speaker 1: I called him about it, and oh, actually I didn't
Speaker 1: say anything about it because I kind of just wanted
Speaker 1: to simmer and think about it for a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but his he had like a relative pass away
Speaker 1: right when he got back, so he kind of called
Speaker 1: me and was like, hey, like can you come over,
Speaker 1: you know, and I was like yeah, sure. So I
Speaker 1: went over to his house to kind of like hang
Speaker 1: out with him. You know, he was home alone because
Speaker 1: his mom traveled somewhere and and so I went to
Speaker 1: his house and we're hanging out and stuff, and then
Speaker 1: he's like, hey, man, I gotta talk to you. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: like what's up.
Speaker 2: And he's like, I.
Speaker 1: Think I'm falling in love with your cousin. And mind you,
Speaker 1: this is when we get back from the trip, you know,
Speaker 1: like I thought that he had stopped talking to her
Speaker 1: or whatever, but he was like, I think I'm falling
Speaker 1: for your cousin, you know, And I was like what
Speaker 1: do you mean? And he's just telling me how he
Speaker 1: doesn't feel any type of other way about any other
Speaker 1: girl and how he feels so good around her, and
Speaker 1: I don't know. He was just telling me all that,
Speaker 1: and I was just telling him like no, like I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't care what you do. I'm just I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you that I think it is weird and you
Speaker 1: can do what you want with that.
Speaker 2: Information if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: You know, but I will let you know how I feel,
Speaker 1: but you can do whatever you want.
Speaker 3: And what did he do with that information?
Speaker 1: He just kind of begged me to change my mind.
Speaker 1: Like right after I told him that, he was like
Speaker 1: I told him, I was like, you know, like you
Speaker 1: can do whatever you want, but uh, I'm gonna just
Speaker 1: let you know that it's weird. You can do whatever
Speaker 1: you want. He was like, are you sure you're not
Speaker 1: gonna Are you sure you're not gonna be okay with it?
Speaker 1: Like a like are you are you positive you're never
Speaker 1: gonna change your mind? And then I was like no,
Speaker 1: Like I just I just told you twenty times.
Speaker 2: How I felt about it, Like.
Speaker 1: See, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: Man, there's a lot of there's a lot of moving
Speaker 3: parts to this story. Is it over? Are you done?
Speaker 3: Is there more stuff?
Speaker 1: I think I think that's the gist of it. But
Speaker 1: he basically just begged me and kind of just asked
Speaker 1: me like, hey, like you sure wouldn't be okay, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I don't think so. And then he
Speaker 1: was like, I can't ask you.
Speaker 3: A legitimate answer you a question? Can ask you a question?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Well, I okay. I understand why you were upset with
Speaker 3: him inviting himself on your on the trip and making
Speaker 3: out with your cousin and just kind of like just
Speaker 3: generally being a presence that you were not that you
Speaker 3: did not invite on this trip. It's understandable. But can
Speaker 3: I ask you, now that it's all said and done
Speaker 3: and your cousin's into him, and he's into your cousin,
Speaker 3: why do you care that he's trying to pursue your cousin?
Speaker 1: Well, I guess I don't care that he's trying to
Speaker 1: pursue my cousin. I care about like all the background
Speaker 1: stuff that happened around it, because him in the process,
Speaker 1: like in the like him pursuing my cousin was a
Speaker 1: result of his over blackoutness that all my family events
Speaker 1: and his lack of like respect on hanging around my family. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and just his general demeanor around my family. Like I'm
Speaker 1: not I said before, like I don't care that he's
Speaker 1: talking to her or whatever. I talked to him about
Speaker 1: the way he acted around my family, right, and you're not.
Speaker 2: As a president in general, go ahead.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what I'm concerned about, because it's like,
Speaker 1: I can't really let that slide if you think it's okay,
Speaker 1: like disrespect me and my family just so casually, you know.
Speaker 3: Okay, this is not This is not as simple as
Speaker 3: I don't want my friend did and my cousin. This
Speaker 3: is more to this. This is about the way he
Speaker 3: was acting on the trip. This is about him getting
Speaker 3: black out drunk and just you know, being being a
Speaker 3: being a fuckhead and doing all this stuff. And he know,
Speaker 3: and and when when you when you had this conversation
Speaker 3: with him, did you express that that it was about
Speaker 3: more than.
Speaker 2: Just yeah, of course.
Speaker 3: And do you think he got do you think he
Speaker 3: understood that or do you think he was still on
Speaker 3: the wave that you were just upset because she's your cousin.
Speaker 1: You know, that's a that's a good question, because when
Speaker 1: I talk to him, I don't really think he understood that,
Speaker 1: because when I told him, like, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: care that you're talking to her, I just care about
Speaker 1: the way you were acting up to that, like what
Speaker 1: he did to lead up to that, And he responded with,
Speaker 1: you know, I never would have done any of those
Speaker 1: things if I wasn't blackout drunk, or if I wasn't
Speaker 1: super wasted, like you know, I never would have done
Speaker 1: those things sober, right, And I just don't I don't really, like,
Speaker 1: you know, my family drinks and stuff, but I don't
Speaker 1: believe in being a whole different person and being a
Speaker 1: completely different like making different decisions just because you're drunk,
Speaker 1: but you're still at the end of the day, like
Speaker 1: you're still the same person regardless if not more of
Speaker 1: the truth comes out when you're drunk, the more of
Speaker 1: real youth comes out.
Speaker 3: I feel like, well, listen, man, I'll say this, I
Speaker 3: get it. I understand why now. I think you know,
Speaker 3: this is again a bigger issue than just your friend
Speaker 3: Day and your cousin. I think you at a certain point,
Speaker 3: maybe it sounds like you need to have another conversation
Speaker 3: with him because I don't think he got it. You know,
Speaker 3: and listen, my friend, if you have another conversation with
Speaker 3: him and he still doesn't get it, I mean, you
Speaker 3: don't have to be this guy's friend if you don't
Speaker 3: want to.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, this is this is this is tough. But
Speaker 3: I don't know. My kind of assessment after hearing all
Speaker 3: this is that he didn't understand because when you were
Speaker 3: telling me at first, I didn't understand. I thought it
Speaker 3: was just like as I I didn't. I didn't realize
Speaker 3: that there was more to it than that. So I
Speaker 3: think you could benefit from another conversation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course I talked to him twice about it,
Speaker 1: because after the first conversation he kind of texted me
Speaker 1: and was like, I didn't understand any of what you said.
Speaker 1: Can you like call me back and give me a
Speaker 1: better explanation? Like that explanation sucked, And he said he
Speaker 1: said like.
Speaker 3: He said that explanation sucked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like, I just understood that you said
Speaker 1: a whole lot of fucking nothing, Like can you call
Speaker 1: me back?
Speaker 3: He literally said, I just understood that you said a
Speaker 3: whole lot of fucking nothing.
Speaker 1: In those Yeah, exact copy and paste the words he.
Speaker 3: Said, Okay, let's I.
Speaker 1: Called him back kind of frustrated because I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, like I asked you if you had any
Speaker 1: questions or I asked you to have an open conversation,
Speaker 1: and he kind of shrugged everything off and was like,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what to say. I don't
Speaker 1: know what to say. So then just like that, his
Speaker 1: response to me addressing it, like calmly, the way I'm
Speaker 1: talking now, Like his response to that kind of confirmed
Speaker 1: me not wanting to really be around that type of person.
Speaker 1: If I can't really have an open, transparent conversation with
Speaker 1: you and you're kind of just shrugging me off and
Speaker 1: telling me to fuck off, it's like, you know, it
Speaker 1: goes both ways, you know.
Speaker 3: M It's fair man, It's fair, dude. This guy is hilarious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he's definitely a character. My family really
Speaker 1: liked him. But a lot of people would just come
Speaker 1: up to me and be like he needs to stop drinking,
Speaker 1: you know, But I don't know. I'm assessing my distance
Speaker 1: away from him. You know, right now I'm not talking
Speaker 1: to him, but I can just take my space and
Speaker 1: do me for now. I'm not too concerned about it.
Speaker 1: But it's just I've known it for a while, so
Speaker 1: it's kind of been.
Speaker 2: On my mind.
Speaker 3: But that's a tough thing when you know and the
Speaker 3: guy for a while. But I mean, you don't have
Speaker 3: to fucking have that be much of a factor in this, Yeah,
Speaker 3: for sure. Well ya, and listen, man, thanks for telling
Speaker 3: us this whole story. And uh, you know, I'm glad
Speaker 3: that you're setting your boundaries appropriately with this guy. I
Speaker 3: feel bad for I feel bad for your cousin that's
Speaker 3: about to start dating this guy.
Speaker 2: I actually don't know whether they're still talking.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, listen, when that wedding happens, please let me
Speaker 3: know because I want to come. It sounds like it'll
Speaker 3: be very fun. It'll be a weird wedding and we
Speaker 3: can all get black out drunk together and laugh about it.
Speaker 3: Else you want to say to the people of the
Speaker 3: computer before we go, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you for hearing me out.
Speaker 1: And I love your show and I really love what
Speaker 1: you're doing. And hopefully I get to see you in
Speaker 1: Chicago when you're here.
Speaker 3: I'll be there. I'm going to Chicago, the Lincoln Lodge.
Speaker 3: I love that place. I'll be there all right.
Speaker 1: Well, hopefully i'll see you there. Hey, all right, thank
Speaker 1: you La, good night.
Speaker 3: Jack, bless you. Hello, Hello, Elias.
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 3: How are you? Man?
Speaker 2: Pretty good? Chilling Scott home?
Speaker 3: How can I get you today? What's going on? Uh?
Speaker 2: Well, I talked to the call streener and I gave
Speaker 2: them two options for choices. So the first one was
Speaker 2: regarding me messing around with the paranormal and demons and
Speaker 2: my fiance is getting unhappy with the fact that it
Speaker 2: is now starting to linger in the home and affect her.
Speaker 2: And then the other option was that I just finished
Speaker 2: cybersecurity school and I'm trying to get a job.
Speaker 3: Let's do the ghosts. Let's do the ghost all right,
Speaker 3: You're summoning demons into the home and your wife is
Speaker 3: not cool with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's one specific that I call the mimic that
Speaker 2: can like replicate voices, and it's done my voice to
Speaker 2: her a couple of times, and she gets really upset.
Speaker 3: You And then okay, you're okay, Okay, you're gonna we're
Speaker 3: gonna have to do this one thing that you said.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have to process one thing that you say
Speaker 3: at a time. I want you when you say something,
Speaker 3: I want you to stop for a second so I
Speaker 3: can process it. Because I can tell that every word
Speaker 3: that is going to come out of your mouth is
Speaker 3: going to spark a thousand questions within me. So let's
Speaker 3: take this very slow. Okay, you have summoned the demon
Speaker 3: into your home, who you claim can mimic the sound
Speaker 3: of your voice, anyone's voice. Okay, are you fucking with
Speaker 3: your wife? Because that would be such a fuck with
Speaker 3: thing if some of the demon that could use my
Speaker 3: own voice. And then you tell, then you run, you
Speaker 3: scurry off into another room, and then you go have
Speaker 3: the natalia and it's actually you.
Speaker 2: There's only one issue with that, is it does other
Speaker 2: voices and other people have had issues. So my friend
Speaker 2: had it mimic like his mom one time. I've had it.
Speaker 2: Do my grandma. I believe she's had it also, do
Speaker 2: her mother. It's done her to me before when she
Speaker 2: wasn't here. Yeah, it's not great sometimes.
Speaker 3: Okay, what other demons do you sell?
Speaker 2: And I actually I actually thought it was gone for
Speaker 2: a while too, but it came up in a dream
Speaker 2: the other night and I woke up in like a
Speaker 2: cold sweat, and it was not gone.
Speaker 3: What are the demons do you summon into the house?
Speaker 2: Well, that's the only one I think I've actually summoned
Speaker 2: a lot of other ones. I'll like go to a
Speaker 2: antigue store, walk around until I feel like I'm being watched,
Speaker 2: and then I'll usually try to hone in on my
Speaker 2: whatever object has given me the jitters. I'll buy that
Speaker 2: I've ordered things online. That's actually how I first got
Speaker 2: even interested in cybersecurities, because I was going on the
Speaker 2: dark Web by compted ship and looking for grim wores.
Speaker 2: H But I my like previous.
Speaker 3: Most of all. Right, see, I we're gonna I have
Speaker 3: to return back to my initially established thing of you
Speaker 3: saying one thing because I knew this was gonna happen.
Speaker 3: I knew you were going. I knew you were going
Speaker 3: to say something like, yeah, I was buying haunted things
Speaker 3: on the dark Web, and then keep talking. Is if
Speaker 3: you didn't just say that, and that we had to
Speaker 3: talk about what you mean by that. So yeah, keep,
Speaker 3: let's keep let's what were you buying that was haunted
Speaker 3: on the dark Web?
Speaker 2: Well, I think the first thing I did was a
Speaker 2: Wigi board, and that one.
Speaker 3: It was you you can get a wigi board at Target.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but these ones, a lot of people will almost
Speaker 2: document their experiences with it, so I can kind of
Speaker 2: get like this is when I was first really messing
Speaker 2: with it, and so I didn't want to like, don't
Speaker 2: jump in all for my toes or anything. I've only
Speaker 2: ever had like spirits come to me, like when my
Speaker 2: first memory as a child is of an old spirit
Speaker 2: man watching me while I sleep, and that's continued all
Speaker 2: the way up until present day, and then after that.
Speaker 2: My grandma has recently told me that when I was young,
Speaker 2: she would often find me playing games with nobody there
Speaker 2: and eventually got narrowed down to I was playing with
Speaker 2: the spirit of a young Indian girl because I was
Speaker 2: playing Native because I'm in Arizona. I'm actually going to
Speaker 2: Stephen Phoenix next week for my birthday. But we say
Speaker 2: I was playing like games I shouldn't know how to play.
Speaker 2: And eventually my cousin got upset about it because she
Speaker 2: shared a room next to mine and she would end
Speaker 2: up having issues. And then after that, it's just been
Speaker 2: various things here and there. But then I eventually got
Speaker 2: to looking more into how I can trigger it because
Speaker 2: I kind of enjoy the feeling of it. And so
Speaker 2: I was like, well, if they're not gonna talk about me,
Speaker 2: I'll bring I'll bring them here. That's when I started
Speaker 2: with the Ouiji board, and then I started looking into
Speaker 2: debick boxes, and then that's how I started getting into demonology.
Speaker 2: Then I uh did a lot of research on like
Speaker 2: the Salamic seals and the demons of Solomon Andrew Crowley, ah,
Speaker 2: all that, all that good stuff.
Speaker 3: What is your life like outside of hunting demons?
Speaker 2: Typical time? Uh mmmmm, go to work, hang out.
Speaker 3: You know what. I've been suppressing this, but I want
Speaker 3: I want to hear from you your thoughts on this.
Speaker 3: Look when you tell me that you're buying haunted wigi
Speaker 3: boards on the dark web and you're summoning spirits that
Speaker 3: mimic the voices of random people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the voice one was not as much of a
Speaker 2: as on purpose one. It killed all my plants the
Speaker 2: next morning as well, Like when I woke up, all
Speaker 2: my plants had died. So I was actually pretty pissed
Speaker 2: off about that. And then I've had some other ones
Speaker 2: where I wake up with like scratches and stuff, and
Speaker 2: those aren't cool.
Speaker 3: Are you sure these are Are you sure these are
Speaker 3: demons that are visiting you?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I live alone, me and my fiance moving in
Speaker 2: together till till next month. So I've lived alone through
Speaker 2: some of this, and then I've lived with family before it,
Speaker 2: and they were the ones, like my mom and stuffho
Speaker 2: would get pissed off at me because it's just weird.
Speaker 2: Shit would happen, Okay, So I kind of took moving
Speaker 2: on my own as an opportunity to not get complaints.
Speaker 3: You get complaints about the demons that you're summoning from
Speaker 3: the people that you live with. So you're like okay,
Speaker 3: Yeah're like okay finally, So you're like, okay, finally, I
Speaker 3: don't have any roommates, I don't have any family. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna summon all the demons I want in my studio
Speaker 3: apartments and nobody will bother you exactly? Can I introduce
Speaker 3: an idea. I'm not a real therapist, you know that
Speaker 3: about me, But I do like to think about things.
Speaker 3: I do like to wonder things. And as you tell me,
Speaker 3: this I'm wondering, is sitting alone in an apartment summoning
Speaker 3: demons healthy? Well?
Speaker 2: Like sometimes people, no, people come over and do it
Speaker 2: with me. It's just because no one wants to do
Speaker 2: it in their house. I say. My friend, I call
Speaker 2: it with a Wigi board. His mom made him burn
Speaker 2: it because she started having dreams that there was a
Speaker 2: Wigi board in the house. So now we just kind
Speaker 2: of use my house as like the because I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm not renewing the lease here. It's kind of like
Speaker 2: a toss a.
Speaker 3: You're not renewing the lease.
Speaker 2: No, the lease expires next month, and then you know,
Speaker 2: I'm out of here. I'm getting a house, so just
Speaker 2: leave it.
Speaker 3: So you're summoning it. I mean, look, so you're just
Speaker 3: summoning all these demons for the next person to move
Speaker 3: in and hang out with. But my problem, it's fucking reckless. Man.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know how to feel. I
Speaker 3: get calls like these a lot about paranormal things, and
Speaker 3: you know, look, I don't believe. Is it insensitive for
Speaker 3: me to say to you? Is it insensitive for me
Speaker 3: to say to you that I don't believe that you
Speaker 3: can summon the No.
Speaker 2: To this point, I'm still fifty fifty. Like I always
Speaker 2: try to come at it against like well, like when
Speaker 2: I started waking up with scratches all my Okay, maybe
Speaker 2: my dog jumped on me in my sleep, so like
Speaker 2: I didn't sleep with the dog for like two months.
Speaker 2: Like anything that I can do to disprove it, like
Speaker 2: I will.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so let's sit with this for a second,
Speaker 3: because I don't think you can summon demons, and half
Speaker 3: of you thinks you can't either.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, good, half of me thinks I can't.
Speaker 3: Okay, good half. That's like that's like fifty one percent.
Speaker 2: Now i'd say it's like sixty forty. Like this is
Speaker 2: also like it's something to do, you know, But then
Speaker 2: there's times where it's like I can't explain what's happening,
Speaker 2: and then it's but I'll just dismiss it because there's
Speaker 2: always you know, I'm sure there's always some way you
Speaker 2: could break it down. But I mean, one of these days,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe I'll just get something so solid that
Speaker 2: i'll like die on.
Speaker 3: This hill again we were. I've like, you're doing this
Speaker 3: because you're bored, right, that's part of it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh definitely partially.
Speaker 3: All right, So the work with me on this work.
Speaker 3: Is there a better thing you could be doing than
Speaker 3: summoning demons?
Speaker 2: I mean, I went to school and finished school.
Speaker 3: Okay, you ever like play for you.
Speaker 2: Doing other So this isn't like a twenty four to
Speaker 2: seventeen Yeah, all.
Speaker 3: Right, Maybe I have an incorrect idea of what your
Speaker 3: life is because I am imagining you alone in a
Speaker 3: studio a park, summoning demons, and I'm like, are you okay?
Speaker 3: Are you hanging in there?
Speaker 2: No? No, I'm actually I'm doing pretty good.
Speaker 3: I know. That's the craziest part of it is you
Speaker 3: sound like you're doing great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, it's pretty We're chilling.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, at least do you have any therapy
Speaker 3: advice for me? I'm jealous of you. I want your life.
Speaker 2: I actually so do you. I actually always have wanted
Speaker 2: to ask you. And it's funny you guys started talking
Speaker 2: about like how you've gotten more empathetic and stuff, because
Speaker 2: I actually wanted to ask you if you've ever start
Speaker 2: feeling like you're desensitized because I've been watching you since
Speaker 2: before the podcast, and so I've really kind of like
Speaker 2: seen the progression and I almost feel like, to me,
Speaker 2: you seem more desensitized now than you did before. But
Speaker 2: there's like certain things that I'll get you excited usually
Speaker 2: when you have a guest on. That's why I love
Speaker 2: the guest episodes because it's almost like a flashback to
Speaker 2: to the original Therapy Get Go back when dudes were
Speaker 2: talking about Donald Trump, Donald Trump, time traveling and yeah
Speaker 2: all that.
Speaker 3: So to answer your question, I am about as desensitized
Speaker 3: to callers as you are to demons. And I'm also
Speaker 3: about as sure that the callers are real as you
Speaker 3: are two demons.
Speaker 2: Well, that depends how real do you think I am?
Speaker 2: One to ten?
Speaker 3: Uh? Fuck, man, I think I would give you a
Speaker 3: you know, I'm going to give you a six out
Speaker 3: of ten for how real I think you are.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, we're about do you know maybe because I'm
Speaker 2: more on like the four for the demons, like I'm
Speaker 2: on the other end of the sixty four.
Speaker 3: What do you think? It's me? What you mentioned? You
Speaker 3: you have done this psycho analysis of me that I'm
Speaker 3: very curious because you see, you're a very interesting person
Speaker 3: and I want to hear your analysis of me. So
Speaker 3: if you have what do you what do you think
Speaker 3: gets me excited?
Speaker 2: It's almost even if it's not like a great thing.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you'll I can just tell you to sensitize because
Speaker 2: it's something different, like weirdly, I think one of the
Speaker 2: most like hyped up I've heard you get recently. Do
Speaker 2: you remember when that dude called in and he talked
Speaker 2: about sucking his friend's girlfriend's ass on prom night? Oh
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, Between that and there being a guy, I
Speaker 2: think that's the most like energetic and like really into
Speaker 2: the episode that you've that I've noticed, at least in
Speaker 2: a lot. Obviously I don't catch every stream, but just
Speaker 2: like from what I can notice.
Speaker 3: That was shocking.
Speaker 5: That was shocking that guy, Yeah, that was definitely and
Speaker 5: it was almost like he didn't see what was wrong
Speaker 5: with that, Like you just fucked your girlfriend, like not sorry,
Speaker 5: your friend's girlfriends at Like like that's like would you
Speaker 5: rather get punched or would you rather get bitch slapped
Speaker 5: backhanded across the face?
Speaker 3: What else do you think of me as? What else
Speaker 3: do you make of me as a human being?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think he seemed like a good
Speaker 2: guy that met you in person. I hope to next month.
Speaker 3: You can always summon me.
Speaker 2: Are you Are you a demon?
Speaker 3: Have the mimic No, just summon the mimic demon him,
Speaker 3: have him paint his face screen and say things, Nah.
Speaker 2: I don't want to mess with that thing. It gave
Speaker 2: me a really bad nightmare the other night.
Speaker 3: What what was the nightmare?
Speaker 2: I I it was just really unenjoyable. So I was
Speaker 2: like in my apartment and people I haven't even seen
Speaker 2: in quite a while were here. And for some reason,
Speaker 2: in my dreams, my apartment always looks different than it
Speaker 2: actually does, but it always looks the same every dream,
Speaker 2: like the same difference. So there's always a hint of
Speaker 2: confusion almost to myself that I can tell it's not right,
Speaker 2: but I don't know why. So I'm always stressed when
Speaker 2: I have a dream about my apartment. And then I
Speaker 2: just remember going to check my phone and like I
Speaker 2: couldn't see the light coming off my phone. It was
Speaker 2: almost like when someone has one of those privacy protector screens.
Speaker 2: And then I like went to look up at my fiancee.
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, are you seeing this, And even
Speaker 2: though she was like an inch from me, her face
Speaker 2: was just like a shadowed outline and I couldn't see
Speaker 2: anything of her face and it was just her voice
Speaker 2: talking to me. And I didn't understand why in the dream,
Speaker 2: but it was really upsetting to me, and then it
Speaker 2: basically was just a continuation of weird morphed places of
Speaker 2: real places that I actually go to and shadow people
Speaker 2: that you couldn't see any features of them, and then
Speaker 2: they just had like people I knew his voices coming out.
Speaker 3: Of them alliest. I don't know if you're going to
Speaker 3: take this as a compliment or not, but talking to
Speaker 3: you makes me feel very high.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm well, no, I'm not that.
Speaker 3: What is not that high for you?
Speaker 2: Okay? Well, see, I recently found out that I do
Speaker 2: not perceive weed normally because I was listening to a
Speaker 2: Bert Kreisler's podcast today and he was talking about the
Speaker 2: el Blento blunts that are one gram and he was
Speaker 2: talking about like how him and his friend were smoking
Speaker 2: it over the course of a weekend and it was
Speaker 2: a lot of weed. And then I I thought back
Speaker 2: to about two months ago where me and my friend
Speaker 2: both bought one, smoked it in a sitting, said they
Speaker 2: were ship and then proceeded to just go through a
Speaker 2: pack of different house pre rules. And so I am
Speaker 2: not smoking right now. Actually, I'm tee currying off. I've
Speaker 2: only smoked a little bit just about twenty thirty minutes ago,
Speaker 2: and then tomorrow I completely ceased for at least maybe
Speaker 2: ten days or so. Take a little break.
Speaker 3: At least. I'm gonna let you go. But it was
Speaker 3: nice talking to you. You're a fascinating person.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 3: people the computer before we go? O?
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, nope, not that I can do.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, good luck. Ali's trying not to summon
Speaker 3: too many demons. We'll do okay, take care of her.
Speaker 2: I will see you in Phoenix.
Speaker 3: See you in Phoenix. I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know what that was just now, but that
Speaker 3: was fascinating. Yeah, I feel I feel good. I feel good.
Speaker 3: Let's keep going. Hello. Hello, who is this?
Speaker 6: This is Michelle?
Speaker 3: Michelle, what's going on with you?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 6: Recently on a whim, I went on meetup and I
Speaker 6: started a group and the idea of the group is
Speaker 6: to go to different hiking trails and I will be
Speaker 6: playing music and I'll just dance and the people who
Speaker 6: are there can try to copy me or just make up.
Speaker 1: Their own move.
Speaker 6: And I have not done any events yet. I am
Speaker 6: definitely nervous.
Speaker 3: But so you started the meetup group. So you started
Speaker 3: the meetup group, but you have not yet met up. No,
Speaker 3: what is preventing you from meeting up with the meetup group?
Speaker 6: I want to have some sound choreography before I.
Speaker 3: Go, some soundcravy. Okay. So the point of this group
Speaker 3: is to hike and dance as well. Yes, okay? Are
Speaker 3: you teaching a dance or you just kind of meeting
Speaker 3: up with people who like to dance as well.
Speaker 6: So I'd like to have some kind of routine that
Speaker 6: people can follow along with, but they they can also
Speaker 6: just do whatever they want.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, So all right, let's say I'm in this
Speaker 3: meetup group and you Michelle, are like, all right, Wednesday
Speaker 3: nine am, we're going to the thing. We're gonna go
Speaker 3: to Mount Pickle Bottom and we're gonna climb Mountain Pickle
Speaker 3: Bottom and we're gonna do a dance when we get
Speaker 3: to the top. Is that is that kind of the theory?
Speaker 6: Well, hopefully we'll be dancing on the way to the top.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, So this is this is a hiking group
Speaker 3: where you were dancing while you are hiking. Yes, that
Speaker 3: before a.
Speaker 6: Little bit I have, but I wouldn't go on any
Speaker 6: trails that are too challenging with things to trip over,
Speaker 6: stick to pave trails.
Speaker 3: I have never heard of a group that that dance
Speaker 3: is wall hike.
Speaker 7: It me neither, okay, But I was just walking my
Speaker 7: dog at the park one day I started dancing and
Speaker 7: I thought, Hey, this might be fun to do in
Speaker 7: a group.
Speaker 3: How many people have joined this meetup group?
Speaker 6: Twenty two?
Speaker 3: You have twenty two people who heard your pitch to
Speaker 3: hike a trail while dancing and said I am in
Speaker 3: let's do it?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 6: And they There were even three people who didn't have
Speaker 6: profile pictures, and I asked them to put one because
Speaker 6: I just want to know whateveryone looks like. And they
Speaker 6: wanted enough to put up a profile picture.
Speaker 3: How many people say you messages? Have they been like?
Speaker 3: When are we doing this thing?
Speaker 6: No one has asked when we're starting. I made the
Speaker 6: group a few days ago.
Speaker 3: And the only thing preventing you from starting is that
Speaker 3: you don't have an actual routine.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, and just anxiety in general.
Speaker 3: Okay, do you have a do you have a trail
Speaker 3: in mind that you want to do this at?
Speaker 6: Yes? I do?
Speaker 3: Okay, So all that's really missing for you is some
Speaker 3: kind of routine, yes, okay. When you were when you
Speaker 3: first discovered the dance hike, did you have some form
Speaker 3: of routine or were you simply vibing and hiking?
Speaker 6: No, I was just vibing, okay.
Speaker 3: And did you have a good time doing that?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 6: I did?
Speaker 3: Okay. Do you have some sort of portable speaker thing
Speaker 3: that you can bring with you on this hype?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 6: I once I had this idea. I went on Amazon
Speaker 6: and I bought this really good speaker. It's waterproof, it
Speaker 6: can take a drop. It clips onto your belt.
Speaker 3: And do you have a playlist of music that you
Speaker 3: think would be good for dancing?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 3: Okay, here's what we're gonna do. Okay. What's the name
Speaker 3: of the meetup group? Can I ask you this?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's my city.
Speaker 3: Walk and Dance, Walk and Dance. Okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna, I'm gonna throw something out at you. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna throw some outcha. I don't think you need a
Speaker 3: routine because you're really you're throwing a walk and dance.
Speaker 3: You're you're throwing a more. You're more throwing a party
Speaker 3: than you are teaching any kind of a class, you know.
Speaker 3: So I think that for you to merely invite folks
Speaker 3: to go on this walk with you and to bring
Speaker 3: music and to start the dancing is enough to accomplish
Speaker 3: your goal, which sounds like it is to meet people
Speaker 3: and have fun. Yeah, so we establish you don't have
Speaker 3: a routine. You don't you know, We've established you do
Speaker 3: not need a routine, and therefore it's okay that you
Speaker 3: don't have one, and so now we have to combat
Speaker 3: that you are just really anxious about doing it? Yes, okay,
Speaker 3: what are you anxious about? In terms of doing it?
Speaker 6: I just just having so many people watching me dance.
Speaker 6: I've danced like in public before, but it was mostly
Speaker 6: like salsa, so everyone else is also dancing and they're
Speaker 6: focusing on their own thing. But here I'm going to
Speaker 6: be at the in front of everyone.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm hm. Well that everybody's going to be dancing themselves,
Speaker 3: that's true. Yes, Michelle, you generally do you have you
Speaker 3: always been concerned with what other people think of you?
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, to the point of severe detriments to myself.
Speaker 3: Well, listen, I think that I think that getting over
Speaker 3: that is a long perhaps sometimes even lifelong, arduous process
Speaker 3: that I cannot solve for you over the course of
Speaker 3: this phone call. But I will tell you this. I
Speaker 3: will tell you that some central things. One, getting over
Speaker 3: that fear is necessary. It is essential to being able
Speaker 3: to live a full life if that's what you desire.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, some people could argue with me that
Speaker 3: you can live a full life without getting over a
Speaker 3: fear of what other people think of you. But I
Speaker 3: think if you want to really unlock all that life
Speaker 3: has to offer, you need to get over that fear,
Speaker 3: or at least deal with it. You don't have to
Speaker 3: rid your you don't have to rid your of it,
Speaker 3: because you might never be able to accomplish that, but
Speaker 3: you can face it and you can deal with it,
Speaker 3: and you have to in order to be able to
Speaker 3: do all the wonderful things that life has to offer,
Speaker 3: such as have little dance parties in the woods. And
Speaker 3: then two, everyone who is going to this thing is
Speaker 3: also kind of a weirdo that likes to dance in
Speaker 3: the woods. So you are going to be in a
Speaker 3: good company. And it's going to be a group of
Speaker 3: twenty two people who are all nervous about who are
Speaker 3: all so nervous about being seen dancing that they are
Speaker 3: only willing to do it in the woods, so you'd
Speaker 3: be in good company.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you have a good point there.
Speaker 3: I and that that that's what I will tell you, Michelle.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's impressive that you've gone as
Speaker 3: far as to actually make the group, because a lot
Speaker 3: of the times I feel like I would get a
Speaker 3: call that says something like, I'm thinking about doing this thing,
Speaker 3: but you know, you don't even think about it. You
Speaker 3: actually did it. But now you have to actually do
Speaker 3: the did and set the date, and I hope you
Speaker 3: do that.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I will.
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna that was I think forcing myself to
Speaker 6: come up with a routine before it is just it
Speaker 6: was just a way for me to postpone it.
Speaker 3: Yes, uh huh uh huh for sure, Yep, that's I
Speaker 3: think it's I think it's yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And when I came up with this idea, I
Speaker 6: had no routine, no idea what I was doing, and
Speaker 6: I had a lot of fun anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think you need a routine. I think
Speaker 3: you were right to say that the routine was just
Speaker 3: procrastinating you actually going and doing it. I've had situations
Speaker 3: like that myself, where I felt as though there was
Speaker 3: a missing piece, and the actual missing piece was just
Speaker 3: overcoming the fear of doing the thing. So posted in
Speaker 3: the discord. By the way, Yeah, you don't have to,
Speaker 3: but if you want to post in the discord, I
Speaker 3: bet there's somebody watching the stream who lives in that
Speaker 3: area and would like to join you. So feel free
Speaker 3: to post in the discord if you want. Michelle, is
Speaker 3: there anything else you want to say to the people
Speaker 3: the computer before we go?
Speaker 6: Yes, I have a funny story about my dog. I
Speaker 6: have a foam roller and sometimes she gets a little
Speaker 6: heated and starts humping it.
Speaker 3: I do that with my phone roller as well. They
Speaker 3: are very good sexual objects. Thank you very much for
Speaker 3: calling Michelle.
Speaker 6: Thank you, Lyle, talk to you later.
Speaker 3: Now. You see, it's difficult because there were two There
Speaker 3: were really two sides of my brain there when I
Speaker 3: was talking to Michelle, And one side of my brain
Speaker 3: is the one that really wants to encourage people to,
Speaker 3: you know, do their crazy ideas and live their life
Speaker 3: and have fun and overcome their fears. And the other
Speaker 3: part is the part that would be a little pissed off.
Speaker 3: I was walking in the woods and somebody was blasting music.
Speaker 3: But I'd get over it. I'd get over it. I
Speaker 3: hope she does the dance party. I hope she does. Hello.
Speaker 4: Hello, Hi, no wayway, not much.
Speaker 3: What's up with you?
Speaker 4: I was just like watching your stream, Man, this is crazy.
Speaker 4: You actually do sound different on the phone.
Speaker 3: Am I talking to to Steve?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Steve. It says here that you're thinking about quitting your
Speaker 3: job at Starbucks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: How you've been working there for.
Speaker 4: Like not very long, like probably like I guess a
Speaker 4: month now, okay, And it's like it's it's a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Why is it a lot?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 4: Honestly, it's like I can do like they put me
Speaker 4: on you know, food or they'll put me on something
Speaker 4: and I can just do a task and that's fine.
Speaker 4: But when when they have me work with people, like
Speaker 4: you know, uh, when I have to like talk to
Speaker 4: people and take their orders and stuff put it in
Speaker 4: the system, that's like, it's it's just a lot. You know,
Speaker 4: customers are good?
Speaker 3: Is it a lot of just unruly people?
Speaker 4: Like it's actually not too bad, you know, I haven't
Speaker 4: had too many bad encounters that I'm still obviously like
Speaker 4: in training and stuff, there's like a million drinks, so
Speaker 4: you have to learn how to make them all and
Speaker 4: that's like the last part of your training. Surprisingly, they
Speaker 4: do like food and then like h register and all that.
Speaker 4: But no, yeah, I've just been just been doing that
Speaker 4: pretty much. And it's it's people are like they're They're
Speaker 4: usually pretty good, but sometimes you get one that will
Speaker 4: just like kind of be in a hurry or kind
Speaker 4: of not care, like you'll be like, hi, how are you,
Speaker 4: We'll just like say their order right away and just
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, does that feel like dehumanizing, like you're like a
Speaker 3: human Tablet's.
Speaker 2: Like a little bit.
Speaker 4: And I mean, honestly, I get it because like you're
Speaker 4: in a hurry and obviously people are like it's the
Speaker 4: morning and stuff. But at the same time, like I
Speaker 4: always feel like I'm quitting things, like I like, uh,
Speaker 4: kind of dropped out of college the first time, but
Speaker 4: like you know, it was more of just like a
Speaker 4: I didn't really vibe with that college and stuff, and
Speaker 4: it was during COVID, but then like I'm in I'm
Speaker 4: in school again. Now I go to a county, but
Speaker 4: it's like.
Speaker 2: Uh, still just like not the vibe at all.
Speaker 3: So you feel like you have a problem with quitting
Speaker 3: things too early.
Speaker 4: Maybe I don't know. That's kind of why why I'm
Speaker 4: like having a dilemma.
Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting when I think about quitting, it's there's
Speaker 3: there's no there's as much pride in staying as there
Speaker 3: is in quitting. Right, Wow, Yeah, I think I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think there's something to be said about having h
Speaker 3: consistency and being able to stick through to the end
Speaker 3: of something, but there's also something to be said about
Speaker 3: being self aware enough to realize that the situation doesn't
Speaker 3: work for you and moving on from it. Yeah, what's
Speaker 3: all right? So you're twenty one? What's what else is
Speaker 3: going on in your life? Are you see? What are
Speaker 3: you in? What are you in school for?
Speaker 4: Uh, it's like I'm in the process of changing my major.
Speaker 4: It's like a whole thing, and I kind of don't
Speaker 4: know what I want to change too, because I was
Speaker 4: just doing business. But it was like I just really
Speaker 4: wasn't like like I know I could do the work,
Speaker 4: like I'm very capable of it, but it's I just
Speaker 4: really wasn't like into it at all or interested, Like
Speaker 4: it didn't mean being to me at all.
Speaker 3: M hm m hm.
Speaker 2: But then, so.
Speaker 3: Do you have anything that is interesting to you?
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, kind of. E'm into like botany and stuff
Speaker 4: and plants, but I'm not exactly sure what I would.
Speaker 3: Do with that. Yeah, are you paying money to go
Speaker 3: to school?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's county, so it's not you know, Christian's pretty.
Speaker 3: Low, right mhm.
Speaker 6: Mhmm.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So that's kind of just like I. I always
Speaker 4: feel like I'm trying to make the decisions for like
Speaker 4: my happiness and like to try and you know, keep
Speaker 4: myself heading in a direction that will eventually make me
Speaker 4: happy or what I what I want to go towards.
Speaker 4: But then I'm like, maybe I'm just like giving up
Speaker 4: on things too early and like not not seeing things through.
Speaker 1: But I don't know m hm hm.
Speaker 2: Hm.
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, you know, you
Speaker 4: just wake up and you go to work sometimes, so m.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I don't know, I I uh, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know how to I don't know how to
Speaker 3: be uh, how to tell you what to do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all right. I mean, you know, I didn't
Speaker 4: even think I was going to get in. I just
Speaker 4: like called that was crazy.
Speaker 3: What's your ultimate dream in life? Man? What do you
Speaker 3: what do you ultimately want to do? Uh?
Speaker 4: I really don't know. I I think like high school
Speaker 4: took the fun out of a lot of things for me.
Speaker 4: Well like I mean, I don't know, just like learning
Speaker 4: and I don't I feel like I don't love the
Speaker 4: whole like structured class environment stuff. But I feel like
Speaker 4: then again, maybe it's just like a lazy excuse.
Speaker 3: You know. Well, while you said you like botany, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: why don't you explore that more? What can you do?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: What can you do with a job? And but what
Speaker 3: can you do with in botany? Are their jobs available
Speaker 3: for you?
Speaker 4: I honestly I don't know. I've looked into you like
Speaker 4: a tiny bit.
Speaker 3: But not not like realistically, you know, why don't you
Speaker 3: look into that? You give it a shot if you
Speaker 3: think that that's what you like. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 3: if you haven't even looked into it, how do you
Speaker 3: even know that it's not an option?
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know. It's just like it feels
Speaker 4: like a lot of I would I would have to
Speaker 4: do like a whole like four year degree, which like
Speaker 4: I don't know if I want to do like I
Speaker 4: don't know, it's just a lot involved.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: Let's see somebody is saying that trade school is a
Speaker 3: good idea.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good idea.
Speaker 3: I guess you have ever thought about doing that?
Speaker 4: Uh like, yeah, possibly, I could definitely think about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exploy your options.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not like end of the world.
Speaker 3: I'm just like kind of vibing along as joined the military.
Speaker 3: You could join the military, there's probably a much there'd
Speaker 3: probably be a much larger commitment than that'd probably be
Speaker 3: a much larger commitment than you know, school, but only
Speaker 3: fans you can try that. I'm sorry, I can't be
Speaker 3: of more help to you, Steve, and I.
Speaker 4: I no, no, man, honestly, just talking to you, like
Speaker 4: as the name my day. It's like, you know, I've
Speaker 4: worked tomorrow to be there early, and it's just like
Speaker 4: this is this is great, like kind of talk through.
Speaker 3: Okay, good? Good? Is there any other kind of aspect
Speaker 3: of this that you you wanted to talk talk about
Speaker 3: that you feel like you didn't get to.
Speaker 4: Uh no, I mean it's pretty much it's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: a lot going on, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Steven, is there anything else that you want
Speaker 3: to say? To the people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 4: Uh, I will say, to be kind to people, and
Speaker 4: you know, you don't know what's going on in leave life. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and you know, sometimes just a little thing can just
Speaker 4: like honestly be great for somebody.
Speaker 3: So yeah, man, I uh I agree. You know. Look,
Speaker 3: I hope I hope that you don't get kind of
Speaker 3: battered down by the people who you're interacting with it
Speaker 3: you're Barissa job and uh, you know, I hope that
Speaker 3: what you just told me, the you know, about wanting
Speaker 3: to be kind to people and whatnot. I hope that you,
Speaker 3: in in whatever situation that you're in, find ways to
Speaker 3: practice that. Yeah. Definitely, thank you for calling Stephen.
Speaker 4: Thank you good night.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, I don't I I you know, it's tough, man.
Speaker 3: I it's tough with like advicey things. And I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Steven said that he just felt like talking about it
Speaker 3: because I I, I don't know. I wonder, I wonder,
Speaker 3: I guess how to best serve this thing, because I
Speaker 3: I'm more and more and more. Actually, the it's funny,
Speaker 3: the more I do this, though, the less qualified I
Speaker 3: feel too, you know, advise people and anything because it's
Speaker 3: so taugh. It's so tough. I was just I was
Speaker 3: just saying this at the beginning of the stream. It's
Speaker 3: so tough to navigate things. And it's it's something I'm
Speaker 3: struggling with, like immensely now with on you know, with myself,
Speaker 3: and I don't know, it's it's I guess nice to
Speaker 3: commiserate with other people who are struggling with the same thing.
Speaker 3: And I think that's a lot of people out there.
Speaker 3: I think the main thing I got from Stephen is
Speaker 3: like he's faced with this challenge that all of these
Speaker 3: people that all of these people uh come to his
Speaker 3: coffee shop and they don't take the time to uh,
Speaker 3: you know, kind of talk to him like he's a person.
Speaker 3: But he's understanding about that because you can't control how
Speaker 3: other people act towards you, and he and he recognizes
Speaker 3: that and understands it and is not bitter about it,
Speaker 3: which is great because I think it's something that's easy
Speaker 3: to be bitter about. And I think for him, you know,
Speaker 3: even when the job gets tough, I think, uh, the
Speaker 3: best thing he could probably do is is really learn
Speaker 3: to take those punches and and if he really truly
Speaker 3: believes in these these things that he's talking about of
Speaker 3: you know, how he wants to be in the world. Uh,
Speaker 3: he'll learn how to be them, even in the face
Speaker 3: of unruly people. I think that that's the opportunity that
Speaker 3: this you know, position is granting him. I think he
Speaker 3: should take advantage of that opportunity to the degree that
Speaker 3: it's beneficial and not let it, you know, destroy him.
Speaker 3: Goes on the line, taking your phone calls.
Speaker 7: Every nine, everything goes.
Speaker 3: He's teaching you, but he's not really an expert.