WEBVTT - VACATIONS AND DEMONS AND STARBUCKS 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:00.800 Hello, Hello. 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:02.360 How you doing, man, I'm good. 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:05.320 I've been showing. I'm making some chicken and vice right now, 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:07.640 waiting to tell you this story I have. 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:09.239 What is the story you have? 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:15.360 Well? All right, So I have this friend. I've been 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:20.560 friends with him since high school and I take family 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:25.280 trips usually every year with my family to our home country, 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:29.479 and he kind of invited himself on this trip a 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:32.040 couple of months ago. Well, not him, his mom. His 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:34.239 mom came up to me and was like, Hey, I'm 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:36.320 going to surprise him with tickets on your family trip. 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:40.080 And I was like, what, Like, okay, I guess. So 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:41.919 that was where it started. 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:47.800 Wait, step back real quick. So okay, his mom. So, 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:49.640 first of all, where's your home country? 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:52.520 Uh, Honduras, Duras. 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:56.720 So your friend, his mom comes up and is like, 0:00:57.040 --> 0:01:02.480 I'm surprising hit myself on with tickets to go to 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:07.959 Honduras with you. Yes, exactly, bizarre. 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:13.640 Okay continue, yeah, yeah, all right, So we go on 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:16.679 this trip. We go on the trip finally, and it's 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:20.200 around New Year's and uh, my mom has a house there. 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:23.000 So we have a little New Year's party on the 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:25.880 thirty first with all the family over, like all my uncles, 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:28.520 all my aunts, every single one of my cousins is there. 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:31.120 You know, it's a family function, and uh, you know, 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:34.880 my family likes to drink alcohol, and you know, they 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:36.640 like to have a good time. People there were drunk 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:40.760 and stuff. They weren't having a good time. But my friend, 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:44.240 he likes to drink a lot, so he kind of 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:50.440 got blackout wasted and drank these three entire bottles of 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.639 like the cheapest hardest liquor that they sell over there, 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:57.200 and uh, he ended up asking my cousins around for 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:59.600 coke throughout the night and I had to find out 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:02.360 for one of them. And that was kind of the 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:05.840 first red flag of many on this trip that he 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:09.880 invited himself on. But I kind of brushed it under 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:14.760 the rug the next morning, and you know, I'm a 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:18.520 good friend. But then we go on this another like 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:21.640 we go on this island, on h on this in 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:25.120 my country or whatever, and he starts talking to my 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:27.720 one of my closest cousins. She's around my age as well, 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:31.760 and he starts talking to her like privately on WhatsApp 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:35.880 and I'm like, okay, like what what are they talking about? 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:41.000 And then basically he's he tells my girlfriend eventually that 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:44.200 he starts falling for my cousin and starts having a 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.440 crush on her, and how he makes him feel so 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:50.640 like himself, and how he's falling. 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:51.400 Head over deals for her. 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:56.560 And he was waiting till after the trip they even 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:58.600 tell me any of this because he didn't want to 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:02.240 ruin his chances of doing anything with her while on 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:05.080 this trip, so he figured he'd just wait until after. 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:07.840 I'm finding all of this out for my girlfriend. Mind you, 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.880 he's not telling me anything because he's telling my girlfriend 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:12.200 this stuff now. 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:14.720 I mean, look, do we know? I mean, how does 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:16.760 your cousin feel about your friends? 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:21.400 Well, to be honest with you, she actually entertained it 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:24.520 as well, so she kind of like, because she's really 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:27.360 friendly and all this stuff, so she's you know, like 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:30.760 being talking to him, being nice, and she started, I guess, 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.080 being kind of flirting with him as well, you know. 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:36.120 And I don't really honestly, like, honestly, I don't. 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:36.520 Care what they do. 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:38.760 They're adults. I'm not mad over the fact that they're 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:41.120 talking or whatever. I'm more so mad about the fact 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:43.360 that he didn't tell me about it. 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:44.880 Like if he would have just told me, I would. 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:46.200 Have been like, Okay, cool, dude, I just don't want 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:48.600 to see it, or do you know, like I like 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:52.280 he yeah, you know, like I don't really care about that. 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:53.960 It's more so how we went about. 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:54.680 It, you know. 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:58.400 All right, all right, So there was the getting a 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:02.000 little too drunk, He's hitting on your cousin. What else 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:02.600 is going on? 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:06.720 What else is going on? All right? 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:09.080 So we have another family party at one of my 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:12.280 aunt's house a couple of days later, celebrating one of 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:18.120 my aunt's birthdays. And we're all there and during the night, 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:20.200 I had this other cousin that it's kind of like 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:23.720 more of a distant cousin, but but I met her 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:27.600 on this trip. So she was at this party, and 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:29.520 he met her on the New Year's party at my 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:31.599 house and he saw her there. Mind, this is a 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:33.359 different cousins, a completely different cousin. 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:36.120 He's just he's just going after all your cousins. 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:39.400 Yeah, exactly. 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:43.560 He kind of treated his vacation like a like a 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:45.440 like a trip to the club, like he was trying 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:47.440 to find where the coke was, trying to get as 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:49.919 drunk as he can and trying to hit on as 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:52.039 many girls as he can but except the pool is 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:53.960 like my family, you know what I mean. 0:04:55.440 --> 0:05:00.360 Okay, maybe his mom maybe that's why his mom invited him, 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:03.200 because he just like she wanted him to find a 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:04.359 girlfriend or something. 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:11.599 I don't know, honestly, Honestly, he said he when I 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:14.200 talked to him about it, eventually he told me that 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:18.239 he told me that, oh, like, it's not my fault, 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:21.479 like it just happened, like you know, like like you like, 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:24.400 I didn't expect to just uh fall for your cousin 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:26.520 and this and that. Oh, but I didn't tell you 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:28.440 he actually made out with this other cousin. 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:33.520 I was telling you about what happened. What happened at 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:35.279 this this party of your aunt's party. 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:36.720 Yeah. 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:39.720 Yeah, So she tells one of my cousins, she's like, oh, 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:43.080 tell your my friend's name. She's like, tell him that 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:46.800 I want to say bye to him, because I guess 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.240 she was about to leave. So they call him into 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:50.800 the room. He's about it. He thinks he's about to 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:53.680 say bye to her, and then apparently on his like 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:56.960 what he told me was that, uh, she grabbed him 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:59.159 and then kissed him, and then he just couldn't say no, 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:01.800 so he went along with it. And then made out 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:06.680 with her essentially, and then he told this like thirty seconds. 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:07.040 After it happened. 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:11.400 He's like, I just made out with your cousin or whatever. 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.039 He's like, He's like, I wasn't gonna say no like 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:15.560 this and that, Like he was kind of flexing it 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:17.240 a little bit when he came into the room. 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:17.520 Yeah. 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:19.760 Yeah, he's bragging about making out with your cousin. 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:23.360 Yeah, and he's drunk too, so it kind of makes 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:26.120 it a little worse. He kind of like is way 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:29.560 more energetic and enthusiastic when he's drunk. 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:34.479 You know, Damn this man, this man invited himself on 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.800 your family trip and then made out with your cousin. 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:41.480 Yes, exactly exactly. 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:45.400 That's that's very funny. 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:45.919 Yeah. 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.839 So I actually ended up talking to him about this 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:52.760 after the trip, and during the trip, I was like, 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:54.599 you know, I was kind of cut off guard, but 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:56.640 I wasn't really thinking about it too much because I 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:58.920 was just trying to enjoy my family trip. You know, 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.480 I don't see my family too often, Like they all 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:05.680 lived in Honduras and I live uh in the States, 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:08.520 so I you know, whenever I see them, I want 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:11.880 to be around them and stuff. But I was just 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:14.400 focusing on that. But when I came back here, I 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:16.680 kind of started thinking about the situation more. I was like, 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:19.480 you know what, like those things he did was kind 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:22.120 of fucked up, like I don't know, like, and then 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:25.320 I called him about it, and oh, actually I didn't 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:27.320 say anything about it because I kind of just wanted 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:29.800 to simmer and think about it for a little bit. 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:32.760 Yeah. 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:40.520 Yeah, but his he had like a relative pass away 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:44.480 right when he got back, so he kind of called 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:46.480 me and was like, hey, like can you come over, 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:48.720 you know, and I was like yeah, sure. So I 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.040 went over to his house to kind of like hang 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:52.960 out with him. You know, he was home alone because 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:58.400 his mom traveled somewhere and and so I went to 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:00.400 his house and we're hanging out and stuff, and then 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:03.600 he's like, hey, man, I gotta talk to you. I'm like, okay, 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:04.520 like what's up. 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:05.960 And he's like, I. 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.600 Think I'm falling in love with your cousin. And mind you, 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:10.760 this is when we get back from the trip, you know, 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:14.040 like I thought that he had stopped talking to her 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:15.920 or whatever, but he was like, I think I'm falling 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:19.920 for your cousin, you know, And I was like what 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:23.800 do you mean? And he's just telling me how he 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.720 doesn't feel any type of other way about any other 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:30.680 girl and how he feels so good around her, and 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:33.719 I don't know. He was just telling me all that, 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:36.880 and I was just telling him like no, like I mean, 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.760 I don't care what you do. I'm just I'm gonna 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:42.719 tell you that I think it is weird and you 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:43.839 can do what you want with that. 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:45.640 Information if that makes sense. 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:47.800 You know, but I will let you know how I feel, 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:49.160 but you can do whatever you want. 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:51.600 And what did he do with that information? 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:56.560 He just kind of begged me to change my mind. 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:58.520 Like right after I told him that, he was like 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:00.719 I told him, I was like, you know, like you 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:03.360 can do whatever you want, but uh, I'm gonna just 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:04.680 let you know that it's weird. You can do whatever 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:06.920 you want. He was like, are you sure you're not 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:09.160 gonna Are you sure you're not gonna be okay with it? 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:11.640 Like a like are you are you positive you're never 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.439 gonna change your mind? And then I was like no, 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:17.040 Like I just I just told you twenty times. 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:18.079 How I felt about it, Like. 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:20.160 See, I'm gonna. 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:23.839 Man, there's a lot of there's a lot of moving 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:27.280 parts to this story. Is it over? Are you done? 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:29.280 Is there more stuff? 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:35.440 I think I think that's the gist of it. But 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:39.079 he basically just begged me and kind of just asked 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:41.280 me like, hey, like you sure wouldn't be okay, And 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:44.040 I'm like, no, I don't think so. And then he 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:45.040 was like, I can't ask you. 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:47.320 A legitimate answer you a question? Can ask you a question? 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:49.280 Yes? 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:54.760 Well, I okay. I understand why you were upset with 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:58.400 him inviting himself on your on the trip and making 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:01.960 out with your cousin and just kind of like just 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:04.560 generally being a presence that you were not that you 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:09.440 did not invite on this trip. It's understandable. But can 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:11.480 I ask you, now that it's all said and done 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:15.120 and your cousin's into him, and he's into your cousin, 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:21.319 why do you care that he's trying to pursue your cousin? 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:26.440 Well, I guess I don't care that he's trying to 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.959 pursue my cousin. I care about like all the background 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:34.160 stuff that happened around it, because him in the process, 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:37.199 like in the like him pursuing my cousin was a 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:42.719 result of his over blackoutness that all my family events 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:46.840 and his lack of like respect on hanging around my family. Yeah, 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:49.719 and just his general demeanor around my family. Like I'm 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:52.320 not I said before, like I don't care that he's 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:55.480 talking to her or whatever. I talked to him about 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.920 the way he acted around my family, right, and you're not. 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:02.679 As a president in general, go ahead. 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:04.679 And that's kind of what I'm concerned about, because it's like, 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:07.120 I can't really let that slide if you think it's okay, 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:11.400 like disrespect me and my family just so casually, you know. 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.400 Okay, this is not This is not as simple as 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.280 I don't want my friend did and my cousin. This 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.000 is more to this. This is about the way he 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:22.920 was acting on the trip. This is about him getting 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:26.400 black out drunk and just you know, being being a 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:29.800 being a fuckhead and doing all this stuff. And he know, 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:33.320 and and when when you when you had this conversation 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:35.319 with him, did you express that that it was about 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:35.920 more than. 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:38.480 Just yeah, of course. 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:40.560 And do you think he got do you think he 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:42.920 understood that or do you think he was still on 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:46.240 the wave that you were just upset because she's your cousin. 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.719 You know, that's a that's a good question, because when 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:53.480 I talk to him, I don't really think he understood that, 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:56.600 because when I told him, like, you know, I don't 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:58.520 care that you're talking to her, I just care about 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:01.160 the way you were acting up to that, like what 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:04.199 he did to lead up to that, And he responded with, 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:06.560 you know, I never would have done any of those 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:09.120 things if I wasn't blackout drunk, or if I wasn't 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:11.439 super wasted, like you know, I never would have done 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.640 those things sober, right, And I just don't I don't really, like, 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.040 you know, my family drinks and stuff, but I don't 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:20.160 believe in being a whole different person and being a 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:24.280 completely different like making different decisions just because you're drunk, 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:27.840 but you're still at the end of the day, like 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:31.760 you're still the same person regardless if not more of 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.200 the truth comes out when you're drunk, the more of 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:35.120 real youth comes out. 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.840 I feel like, well, listen, man, I'll say this, I 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:40.400 get it. I understand why now. I think you know, 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:44.240 this is again a bigger issue than just your friend 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.640 Day and your cousin. I think you at a certain point, 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:50.839 maybe it sounds like you need to have another conversation 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.599 with him because I don't think he got it. You know, 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:57.360 and listen, my friend, if you have another conversation with 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:02.000 him and he still doesn't get it, I mean, you 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:03.800 don't have to be this guy's friend if you don't 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:04.120 want to. 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:05.800 You know. 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.080 Yeah, man, this is this is this is tough. But 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:15.080 I don't know. My kind of assessment after hearing all 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.640 this is that he didn't understand because when you were 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:19.480 telling me at first, I didn't understand. I thought it 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:24.160 was just like as I I didn't. I didn't realize 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:27.520 that there was more to it than that. So I 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:29.439 think you could benefit from another conversation. 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:33.920 Yeah, of course I talked to him twice about it, 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.400 because after the first conversation he kind of texted me 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:39.240 and was like, I didn't understand any of what you said. 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.040 Can you like call me back and give me a 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:45.280 better explanation? Like that explanation sucked, And he said he 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:45.800 said like. 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:47.680 He said that explanation sucked. 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:51.240 Yeah, he was like, I just understood that you said 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:53.400 a whole lot of fucking nothing, Like can you call 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:53.800 me back? 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:56.280 He literally said, I just understood that you said a 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:57.559 whole lot of fucking nothing. 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.800 In those Yeah, exact copy and paste the words he. 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:03.199 Said, Okay, let's I. 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:05.320 Called him back kind of frustrated because I was like, 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:07.120 you know, like I asked you if you had any 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.400 questions or I asked you to have an open conversation, 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:11.560 and he kind of shrugged everything off and was like, 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:12.800 I don't I don't know what to say. I don't 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:15.840 know what to say. So then just like that, his 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:19.040 response to me addressing it, like calmly, the way I'm 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:22.680 talking now, Like his response to that kind of confirmed 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.600 me not wanting to really be around that type of person. 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:28.480 If I can't really have an open, transparent conversation with 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:30.040 you and you're kind of just shrugging me off and 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:33.200 telling me to fuck off, it's like, you know, it 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:34.520 goes both ways, you know. 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:47.680 M It's fair man, It's fair, dude. This guy is hilarious. 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:52.960 Yeah, I mean, he's definitely a character. My family really 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:54.960 liked him. But a lot of people would just come 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:57.360 up to me and be like he needs to stop drinking, 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:01.320 you know, But I don't know. I'm assessing my distance 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:04.520 away from him. You know, right now I'm not talking 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:07.480 to him, but I can just take my space and 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:10.120 do me for now. I'm not too concerned about it. 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:11.960 But it's just I've known it for a while, so 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:12.760 it's kind of been. 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:13.160 On my mind. 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:15.400 But that's a tough thing when you know and the 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:17.960 guy for a while. But I mean, you don't have 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:24.960 to fucking have that be much of a factor in this, Yeah, 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:29.200 for sure. Well ya, and listen, man, thanks for telling 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:33.720 us this whole story. And uh, you know, I'm glad 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:40.280 that you're setting your boundaries appropriately with this guy. I 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:42.640 feel bad for I feel bad for your cousin that's 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:46.360 about to start dating this guy. 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:48.360 I actually don't know whether they're still talking. 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:51.960 Okay, Well, listen, when that wedding happens, please let me 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.840 know because I want to come. It sounds like it'll 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:57.440 be very fun. It'll be a weird wedding and we 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:01.920 can all get black out drunk together and laugh about it. 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:05.280 Else you want to say to the people of the 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:08.520 computer before we go, Yeah. 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:10.840 I just want to say thank you for hearing me out. 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.440 And I love your show and I really love what 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.880 you're doing. And hopefully I get to see you in 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:19.640 Chicago when you're here. 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:22.720 I'll be there. I'm going to Chicago, the Lincoln Lodge. 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:24.760 I love that place. I'll be there all right. 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:31.000 Well, hopefully i'll see you there. Hey, all right, thank 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:31.840 you La, good night. 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:36.840 Jack, bless you. Hello, Hello, Elias. 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:37.960 What's up? 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:39.800 How are you? Man? 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:43.320 Pretty good? Chilling Scott home? 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:47.440 How can I get you today? What's going on? Uh? 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:50.400 Well, I talked to the call streener and I gave 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:55.720 them two options for choices. So the first one was 0:16:55.800 --> 0:17:02.040 regarding me messing around with the paranormal and demons and 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:07.840 my fiance is getting unhappy with the fact that it 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:12.080 is now starting to linger in the home and affect her. 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:15.560 And then the other option was that I just finished 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:19.840 cybersecurity school and I'm trying to get a job. 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:28.560 Let's do the ghosts. Let's do the ghost all right, 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:32.000 You're summoning demons into the home and your wife is 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:32.800 not cool with that. 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:39.480 Yeah, there's one specific that I call the mimic that 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:43.159 can like replicate voices, and it's done my voice to 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:45.919 her a couple of times, and she gets really upset. 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:51.879 You And then okay, you're okay, Okay, you're gonna we're 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:54.120 gonna have to do this one thing that you said. 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:56.400 We're gonna have to process one thing that you say 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:59.040 at a time. I want you when you say something, 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:01.480 I want you to stop for a second so I 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:04.159 can process it. Because I can tell that every word 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:05.560 that is going to come out of your mouth is 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:08.640 going to spark a thousand questions within me. So let's 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:13.080 take this very slow. Okay, you have summoned the demon 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:18.720 into your home, who you claim can mimic the sound 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:27.240 of your voice, anyone's voice. Okay, are you fucking with 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:29.679 your wife? Because that would be such a fuck with 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:32.359 thing if some of the demon that could use my 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:34.639 own voice. And then you tell, then you run, you 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:36.800 scurry off into another room, and then you go have 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:40.240 the natalia and it's actually you. 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:44.160 There's only one issue with that, is it does other 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:48.040 voices and other people have had issues. So my friend 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:53.000 had it mimic like his mom one time. I've had it. 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:56.280 Do my grandma. I believe she's had it also, do 0:18:56.359 --> 0:19:01.399 her mother. It's done her to me before when she 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:10.600 wasn't here. Yeah, it's not great sometimes. 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:13.560 Okay, what other demons do you sell? 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:16.439 And I actually I actually thought it was gone for 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:19.399 a while too, but it came up in a dream 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:21.560 the other night and I woke up in like a 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:24.200 cold sweat, and it was not gone. 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:26.960 What are the demons do you summon into the house? 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:32.119 Well, that's the only one I think I've actually summoned 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:35.199 a lot of other ones. I'll like go to a 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:39.480 antigue store, walk around until I feel like I'm being watched, 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:41.320 and then I'll usually try to hone in on my 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:44.400 whatever object has given me the jitters. I'll buy that 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:49.920 I've ordered things online. That's actually how I first got 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:52.359 even interested in cybersecurities, because I was going on the 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:58.240 dark Web by compted ship and looking for grim wores. 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:03.800 H But I my like previous. 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:05.639 Most of all. Right, see, I we're gonna I have 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:08.679 to return back to my initially established thing of you 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:11.520 saying one thing because I knew this was gonna happen. 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:13.880 I knew you were going. I knew you were going 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:18.080 to say something like, yeah, I was buying haunted things 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:20.480 on the dark Web, and then keep talking. Is if 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:22.639 you didn't just say that, and that we had to 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:26.320 talk about what you mean by that. So yeah, keep, 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:31.680 let's keep let's what were you buying that was haunted 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:32.680 on the dark Web? 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:38.080 Well, I think the first thing I did was a 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:42.040 Wigi board, and that one. 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:45.159 It was you you can get a wigi board at Target. 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:49.919 Yeah, but these ones, a lot of people will almost 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:52.119 document their experiences with it, so I can kind of 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:55.560 get like this is when I was first really messing 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:59.480 with it, and so I didn't want to like, don't 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:02.200 jump in all for my toes or anything. I've only 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:06.439 ever had like spirits come to me, like when my 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:10.200 first memory as a child is of an old spirit 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:13.080 man watching me while I sleep, and that's continued all 0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:16.600 the way up until present day, and then after that. 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:20.800 My grandma has recently told me that when I was young, 0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:25.760 she would often find me playing games with nobody there 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:31.240 and eventually got narrowed down to I was playing with 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:36.320 the spirit of a young Indian girl because I was 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:39.439 playing Native because I'm in Arizona. I'm actually going to 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:44.200 Stephen Phoenix next week for my birthday. But we say 0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:48.439 I was playing like games I shouldn't know how to play. 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:54.040 And eventually my cousin got upset about it because she 0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:56.959 shared a room next to mine and she would end 0:21:57.040 --> 0:22:01.000 up having issues. And then after that, it's just been 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:05.880 various things here and there. But then I eventually got 0:22:05.920 --> 0:22:10.000 to looking more into how I can trigger it because 0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:14.000 I kind of enjoy the feeling of it. And so 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:16.040 I was like, well, if they're not gonna talk about me, 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:19.159 I'll bring I'll bring them here. That's when I started 0:22:19.160 --> 0:22:21.160 with the Ouiji board, and then I started looking into 0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:26.480 debick boxes, and then that's how I started getting into demonology. 0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:28.840 Then I uh did a lot of research on like 0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:35.800 the Salamic seals and the demons of Solomon Andrew Crowley, ah, 0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:38.000 all that, all that good stuff. 0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:45.720 What is your life like outside of hunting demons? 0:22:48.280 --> 0:23:03.160 Typical time? Uh mmmmm, go to work, hang out. 0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:04.720 You know what. I've been suppressing this, but I want 0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:08.119 I want to hear from you your thoughts on this. 0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:11.320 Look when you tell me that you're buying haunted wigi 0:23:11.400 --> 0:23:16.399 boards on the dark web and you're summoning spirits that 0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:18.320 mimic the voices of random people. 0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:24.760 Yeah, the voice one was not as much of a 0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:28.359 as on purpose one. It killed all my plants the 0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:30.560 next morning as well, Like when I woke up, all 0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:33.160 my plants had died. So I was actually pretty pissed 0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:35.880 off about that. And then I've had some other ones 0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:38.359 where I wake up with like scratches and stuff, and 0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:39.359 those aren't cool. 0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:42.360 Are you sure these are Are you sure these are 0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:43.920 demons that are visiting you? 0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:50.040 Yeah? I live alone, me and my fiance moving in 0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:54.000 together till till next month. So I've lived alone through 0:23:54.560 --> 0:23:57.440 some of this, and then I've lived with family before it, 0:23:58.040 --> 0:24:00.800 and they were the ones, like my mom and stuffho 0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:03.000 would get pissed off at me because it's just weird. 0:24:03.000 --> 0:24:07.600 Shit would happen, Okay, So I kind of took moving 0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:11.200 on my own as an opportunity to not get complaints. 0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:16.000 You get complaints about the demons that you're summoning from 0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:18.159 the people that you live with. So you're like okay, 0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:21.600 Yeah're like okay finally, So you're like, okay, finally, I 0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:23.480 don't have any roommates, I don't have any family. I'm 0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:27.200 gonna summon all the demons I want in my studio 0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:32.320 apartments and nobody will bother you exactly? Can I introduce 0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:35.919 an idea. I'm not a real therapist, you know that 0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:39.920 about me, But I do like to think about things. 0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:42.439 I do like to wonder things. And as you tell me, 0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:48.919 this I'm wondering, is sitting alone in an apartment summoning 0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:52.679 demons healthy? Well? 0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:54.840 Like sometimes people, no, people come over and do it 0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:56.840 with me. It's just because no one wants to do 0:24:56.880 --> 0:25:00.959 it in their house. I say. My friend, I call 0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:02.880 it with a Wigi board. His mom made him burn 0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:06.359 it because she started having dreams that there was a 0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:09.640 Wigi board in the house. So now we just kind 0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:13.239 of use my house as like the because I mean, 0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:15.240 I'm not renewing the lease here. It's kind of like 0:25:15.280 --> 0:25:15.680 a toss a. 0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:19.480 You're not renewing the lease. 0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:23.280 No, the lease expires next month, and then you know, 0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:25.840 I'm out of here. I'm getting a house, so just 0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:26.280 leave it. 0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:28.199 So you're summoning it. I mean, look, so you're just 0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:30.760 summoning all these demons for the next person to move 0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:36.400 in and hang out with. But my problem, it's fucking reckless. Man. 0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:43.720 I don't know. I don't know how to feel. I 0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:47.200 get calls like these a lot about paranormal things, and 0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:53.159 you know, look, I don't believe. Is it insensitive for 0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:56.719 me to say to you? Is it insensitive for me 0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:59.399 to say to you that I don't believe that you 0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:00.800 can summon the No. 0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:05.800 To this point, I'm still fifty fifty. Like I always 0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:09.080 try to come at it against like well, like when 0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:11.040 I started waking up with scratches all my Okay, maybe 0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:12.960 my dog jumped on me in my sleep, so like 0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:15.360 I didn't sleep with the dog for like two months. 0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:18.480 Like anything that I can do to disprove it, like 0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:19.040 I will. 0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:23.200 Okay, all right, so let's sit with this for a second, 0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:33.160 because I don't think you can summon demons, and half 0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:34.840 of you thinks you can't either. 0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:38.879 No, yeah, good, half of me thinks I can't. 0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:41.560 Okay, good half. That's like that's like fifty one percent. 0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:46.280 Now i'd say it's like sixty forty. Like this is 0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:50.760 also like it's something to do, you know, But then 0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:53.280 there's times where it's like I can't explain what's happening, 0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:56.160 and then it's but I'll just dismiss it because there's 0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:59.199 always you know, I'm sure there's always some way you 0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:10.000 could break it down. But I mean, one of these days, 0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:14.600 you know, maybe I'll just get something so solid that 0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:15.840 i'll like die on. 0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:21.919 This hill again we were. I've like, you're doing this 0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:24.560 because you're bored, right, that's part of it? 0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:27.920 Yeah, oh definitely partially. 0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:29.840 All right, So the work with me on this work. 0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:33.360 Is there a better thing you could be doing than 0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:34.320 summoning demons? 0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:39.560 I mean, I went to school and finished school. 0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:43.800 Okay, you ever like play for you. 0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:46.320 Doing other So this isn't like a twenty four to 0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:48.240 seventeen Yeah, all. 0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:50.280 Right, Maybe I have an incorrect idea of what your 0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:54.760 life is because I am imagining you alone in a 0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:59.600 studio a park, summoning demons, and I'm like, are you okay? 0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:01.280 Are you hanging in there? 0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:03.640 No? No, I'm actually I'm doing pretty good. 0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:06.040 I know. That's the craziest part of it is you 0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:08.440 sound like you're doing great. 0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:14.200 Yeah, yeah, No, it's pretty We're chilling. 0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:20.199 I mean, yeah, at least do you have any therapy 0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:23.560 advice for me? I'm jealous of you. I want your life. 0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:27.639 I actually so do you. I actually always have wanted 0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:29.960 to ask you. And it's funny you guys started talking 0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:32.480 about like how you've gotten more empathetic and stuff, because 0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:34.879 I actually wanted to ask you if you've ever start 0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:38.880 feeling like you're desensitized because I've been watching you since 0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:41.520 before the podcast, and so I've really kind of like 0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:45.200 seen the progression and I almost feel like, to me, 0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:51.080 you seem more desensitized now than you did before. But 0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:54.840 there's like certain things that I'll get you excited usually 0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:56.560 when you have a guest on. That's why I love 0:28:56.600 --> 0:29:00.160 the guest episodes because it's almost like a flashback to 0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:03.520 to the original Therapy Get Go back when dudes were 0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:08.160 talking about Donald Trump, Donald Trump, time traveling and yeah 0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:09.760 all that. 0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:16.720 So to answer your question, I am about as desensitized 0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:21.520 to callers as you are to demons. And I'm also 0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:26.600 about as sure that the callers are real as you 0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:30.640 are two demons. 0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:33.360 Well, that depends how real do you think I am? 0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:34.000 One to ten? 0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:42.200 Uh? Fuck, man, I think I would give you a 0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:44.920 you know, I'm going to give you a six out 0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:46.760 of ten for how real I think you are. 0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:50.440 Okay, Yeah, we're about do you know maybe because I'm 0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:52.560 more on like the four for the demons, like I'm 0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:54.320 on the other end of the sixty four. 0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:58.560 What do you think? It's me? What you mentioned? You 0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:01.160 you have done this psycho analysis of me that I'm 0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:04.560 very curious because you see, you're a very interesting person 0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:08.240 and I want to hear your analysis of me. So 0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:10.120 if you have what do you what do you think 0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:10.960 gets me excited? 0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:19.480 It's almost even if it's not like a great thing. 0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:22.040 Sometimes you'll I can just tell you to sensitize because 0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:28.160 it's something different, like weirdly, I think one of the 0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:30.880 most like hyped up I've heard you get recently. Do 0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:35.440 you remember when that dude called in and he talked 0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:41.080 about sucking his friend's girlfriend's ass on prom night? Oh 0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:46.680 yeah yeah, Between that and there being a guy, I 0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:51.360 think that's the most like energetic and like really into 0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:55.520 the episode that you've that I've noticed, at least in 0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:57.680 a lot. Obviously I don't catch every stream, but just 0:30:57.680 --> 0:30:59.560 like from what I can notice. 0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:01.440 That was shocking. 0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:06.720 That was shocking that guy, Yeah, that was definitely and 0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:08.800 it was almost like he didn't see what was wrong 0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:15.320 with that, Like you just fucked your girlfriend, like not sorry, 0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:20.520 your friend's girlfriends at Like like that's like would you 0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:23.080 rather get punched or would you rather get bitch slapped 0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:24.440 backhanded across the face? 0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:27.320 What else do you think of me as? What else 0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:28.840 do you make of me as a human being? 0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:34.480 I don't know. I think he seemed like a good 0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:38.120 guy that met you in person. I hope to next month. 0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:40.080 You can always summon me. 0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:45.080 Are you Are you a demon? 0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:48.880 Have the mimic No, just summon the mimic demon him, 0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:53.160 have him paint his face screen and say things, Nah. 0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:54.440 I don't want to mess with that thing. It gave 0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:56.000 me a really bad nightmare the other night. 0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:57.800 What what was the nightmare? 0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:02.880 I I it was just really unenjoyable. So I was 0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:07.720 like in my apartment and people I haven't even seen 0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:11.640 in quite a while were here. And for some reason, 0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:14.280 in my dreams, my apartment always looks different than it 0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:16.480 actually does, but it always looks the same every dream, 0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:20.760 like the same difference. So there's always a hint of 0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:24.080 confusion almost to myself that I can tell it's not right, 0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:27.640 but I don't know why. So I'm always stressed when 0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:32.560 I have a dream about my apartment. And then I 0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:35.600 just remember going to check my phone and like I 0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:38.920 couldn't see the light coming off my phone. It was 0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:43.880 almost like when someone has one of those privacy protector screens. 0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.440 And then I like went to look up at my fiancee. 0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:47.920 I was like, hey, are you seeing this, And even 0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:50.360 though she was like an inch from me, her face 0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:52.720 was just like a shadowed outline and I couldn't see 0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.400 anything of her face and it was just her voice 0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:59.440 talking to me. And I didn't understand why in the dream, 0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:04.200 but it was really upsetting to me, and then it 0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:08.960 basically was just a continuation of weird morphed places of 0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:13.960 real places that I actually go to and shadow people 0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:17.120 that you couldn't see any features of them, and then 0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:19.840 they just had like people I knew his voices coming out. 0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:22.200 Of them alliest. I don't know if you're going to 0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:24.080 take this as a compliment or not, but talking to 0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:27.600 you makes me feel very high. 0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:30.440 I'm I'm well, no, I'm not that. 0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:35.800 What is not that high for you? 0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:41.640 Okay? Well, see, I recently found out that I do 0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:45.440 not perceive weed normally because I was listening to a 0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:50.560 Bert Kreisler's podcast today and he was talking about the 0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:54.000 el Blento blunts that are one gram and he was 0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:56.800 talking about like how him and his friend were smoking 0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:58.320 it over the course of a weekend and it was 0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:00.640 a lot of weed. And then I I thought back 0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:04.360 to about two months ago where me and my friend 0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:08.000 both bought one, smoked it in a sitting, said they 0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:11.480 were ship and then proceeded to just go through a 0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:16.960 pack of different house pre rules. And so I am 0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:22.080 not smoking right now. Actually, I'm tee currying off. I've 0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:25.439 only smoked a little bit just about twenty thirty minutes ago, 0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:31.560 and then tomorrow I completely ceased for at least maybe 0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:34.080 ten days or so. Take a little break. 0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:37.880 At least. I'm gonna let you go. But it was 0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:40.160 nice talking to you. You're a fascinating person. 0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:42.080 Thank you. 0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:44.400 Is there anything else you want to say to the 0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:47.600 people the computer before we go? O? 0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:58.799 Uh yeah, nope, not that I can do. 0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:03.760 Okay, all right, good luck. Ali's trying not to summon 0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:08.640 too many demons. We'll do okay, take care of her. 0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:10.920 I will see you in Phoenix. 0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:13.759 See you in Phoenix. I don't know, I don't know. 0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:16.279 I don't know what that was just now, but that 0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:25.479 was fascinating. Yeah, I feel I feel good. I feel good. 0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:30.240 Let's keep going. Hello. Hello, who is this? 0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:31.080 This is Michelle? 0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:32.440 Michelle, what's going on with you? 0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:33.320 Well? 0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:38.920 Recently on a whim, I went on meetup and I 0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:44.080 started a group and the idea of the group is 0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:49.200 to go to different hiking trails and I will be 0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:55.040 playing music and I'll just dance and the people who 0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:59.359 are there can try to copy me or just make up. 0:35:59.320 --> 0:35:59.919 Their own move. 0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:04.680 And I have not done any events yet. I am 0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:05.719 definitely nervous. 0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:11.960 But so you started the meetup group. So you started 0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:16.040 the meetup group, but you have not yet met up. No, 0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:19.640 what is preventing you from meeting up with the meetup group? 0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:29.160 I want to have some sound choreography before I. 0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:32.799 Go, some soundcravy. Okay. So the point of this group 0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:40.239 is to hike and dance as well. Yes, okay? Are 0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:43.320 you teaching a dance or you just kind of meeting 0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:45.160 up with people who like to dance as well. 0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:53.920 So I'd like to have some kind of routine that 0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:57.839 people can follow along with, but they they can also 0:36:58.000 --> 0:36:59.719 just do whatever they want. 0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:05.120 Okay, Okay, So all right, let's say I'm in this 0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:10.080 meetup group and you Michelle, are like, all right, Wednesday 0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:15.840 nine am, we're going to the thing. We're gonna go 0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:21.200 to Mount Pickle Bottom and we're gonna climb Mountain Pickle 0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:24.000 Bottom and we're gonna do a dance when we get 0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:26.680 to the top. Is that is that kind of the theory? 0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:32.080 Well, hopefully we'll be dancing on the way to the top. 0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:34.960 Oh okay, So this is this is a hiking group 0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:41.200 where you were dancing while you are hiking. Yes, that 0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:42.040 before a. 0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:50.200 Little bit I have, but I wouldn't go on any 0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:54.000 trails that are too challenging with things to trip over, 0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:57.120 stick to pave trails. 0:37:57.680 --> 0:37:59.880 I have never heard of a group that that dance 0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:02.200 is wall hike. 0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:10.360 It me neither, okay, But I was just walking my 0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:12.880 dog at the park one day I started dancing and 0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:15.520 I thought, Hey, this might be fun to do in 0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:15.960 a group. 0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:18.880 How many people have joined this meetup group? 0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:22.319 Twenty two? 0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:29.920 You have twenty two people who heard your pitch to 0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:36.000 hike a trail while dancing and said I am in 0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:37.160 let's do it? 0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:39.160 Yes? 0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:45.360 And they There were even three people who didn't have 0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:48.839 profile pictures, and I asked them to put one because 0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:51.960 I just want to know whateveryone looks like. And they 0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:54.840 wanted enough to put up a profile picture. 0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:01.239 How many people say you messages? Have they been like? 0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:02.319 When are we doing this thing? 0:39:05.200 --> 0:39:09.640 No one has asked when we're starting. I made the 0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:10.719 group a few days ago. 0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:16.480 And the only thing preventing you from starting is that 0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:20.840 you don't have an actual routine. 0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:26.880 Yeah, okay, and just anxiety in general. 0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:31.840 Okay, do you have a do you have a trail 0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:33.560 in mind that you want to do this at? 0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:36.719 Yes? I do? 0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:43.640 Okay, So all that's really missing for you is some 0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:50.480 kind of routine, yes, okay. When you were when you 0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:56.839 first discovered the dance hike, did you have some form 0:39:56.880 --> 0:39:59.200 of routine or were you simply vibing and hiking? 0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:04.120 No, I was just vibing, okay. 0:40:05.560 --> 0:40:07.080 And did you have a good time doing that? 0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:09.960 Yes? 0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:10.760 I did? 0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:15.839 Okay. Do you have some sort of portable speaker thing 0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:17.760 that you can bring with you on this hype? 0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:18.120 Yes? 0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:21.680 I once I had this idea. I went on Amazon 0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:26.000 and I bought this really good speaker. It's waterproof, it 0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:29.320 can take a drop. It clips onto your belt. 0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:33.319 And do you have a playlist of music that you 0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:36.719 think would be good for dancing? 0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:38.880 Yes? 0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:39.319 I do. 0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:43.480 Okay, here's what we're gonna do. Okay. What's the name 0:40:43.480 --> 0:40:44.680 of the meetup group? Can I ask you this? 0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:50.200 Yeah, it's my city. 0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:58.239 Walk and Dance, Walk and Dance. Okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, 0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:00.160 I'm gonna, I'm gonna throw something out at you. I'm 0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:02.320 gonna throw some outcha. I don't think you need a 0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:08.280 routine because you're really you're throwing a walk and dance. 0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:11.320 You're you're throwing a more. You're more throwing a party 0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:16.680 than you are teaching any kind of a class, you know. 0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:25.040 So I think that for you to merely invite folks 0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:28.520 to go on this walk with you and to bring 0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:37.640 music and to start the dancing is enough to accomplish 0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:43.640 your goal, which sounds like it is to meet people 0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:51.680 and have fun. Yeah, so we establish you don't have 0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:53.680 a routine. You don't you know, We've established you do 0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:55.600 not need a routine, and therefore it's okay that you 0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:58.160 don't have one, and so now we have to combat 0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:06.960 that you are just really anxious about doing it? Yes, okay, 0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:09.840 what are you anxious about? In terms of doing it? 0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:20.720 I just just having so many people watching me dance. 0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:26.480 I've danced like in public before, but it was mostly 0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:31.760 like salsa, so everyone else is also dancing and they're 0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:33.880 focusing on their own thing. But here I'm going to 0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:37.839 be at the in front of everyone. 0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:42.280 Mm hmmm hm. Well that everybody's going to be dancing themselves, 0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:56.279 that's true. Yes, Michelle, you generally do you have you 0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:58.319 always been concerned with what other people think of you? 0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:06.560 Yes, yeah, to the point of severe detriments to myself. 0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:11.520 Well, listen, I think that I think that getting over 0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:18.640 that is a long perhaps sometimes even lifelong, arduous process 0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:21.880 that I cannot solve for you over the course of 0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:25.320 this phone call. But I will tell you this. I 0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:31.399 will tell you that some central things. One, getting over 0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:38.480 that fear is necessary. It is essential to being able 0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:41.360 to live a full life if that's what you desire. 0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:45.759 In my opinion, some people could argue with me that 0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:48.239 you can live a full life without getting over a 0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:50.120 fear of what other people think of you. But I 0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:53.200 think if you want to really unlock all that life 0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:56.520 has to offer, you need to get over that fear, 0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:58.080 or at least deal with it. You don't have to 0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:00.600 rid your you don't have to rid your of it, 0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:04.000 because you might never be able to accomplish that, but 0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:08.000 you can face it and you can deal with it, 0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:13.000 and you have to in order to be able to 0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:16.400 do all the wonderful things that life has to offer, 0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:20.440 such as have little dance parties in the woods. And 0:44:20.480 --> 0:44:27.360 then two, everyone who is going to this thing is 0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:31.719 also kind of a weirdo that likes to dance in 0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:37.360 the woods. So you are going to be in a 0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:40.040 good company. And it's going to be a group of 0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:46.160 twenty two people who are all nervous about who are 0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:52.520 all so nervous about being seen dancing that they are 0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:57.080 only willing to do it in the woods, so you'd 0:44:57.120 --> 0:45:00.120 be in good company. 0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:04.440 Yeah, you have a good point there. 0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:09.520 I and that that that's what I will tell you, Michelle. 0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:12.480 I mean, I think it's impressive that you've gone as 0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:14.680 far as to actually make the group, because a lot 0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:16.080 of the times I feel like I would get a 0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:19.279 call that says something like, I'm thinking about doing this thing, 0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:21.680 but you know, you don't even think about it. You 0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:25.880 actually did it. But now you have to actually do 0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:29.480 the did and set the date, and I hope you 0:45:29.520 --> 0:45:29.799 do that. 0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:33.640 Thank you. 0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:35.439 I will. 0:45:35.560 --> 0:45:41.360 I'm just gonna that was I think forcing myself to 0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:44.400 come up with a routine before it is just it 0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:46.520 was just a way for me to postpone it. 0:45:47.239 --> 0:45:53.560 Yes, uh huh uh huh for sure, Yep, that's I 0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:59.080 think it's I think it's yeah. 0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:00.719 Yeah, And when I came up with this idea, I 0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:05.279 had no routine, no idea what I was doing, and 0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:07.840 I had a lot of fun anyway. 0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:10.440 Yeah, I don't think you need a routine. I think 0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:12.160 you were right to say that the routine was just 0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:18.480 procrastinating you actually going and doing it. I've had situations 0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:21.319 like that myself, where I felt as though there was 0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:24.080 a missing piece, and the actual missing piece was just 0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:31.880 overcoming the fear of doing the thing. So posted in 0:46:31.920 --> 0:46:34.120 the discord. By the way, Yeah, you don't have to, 0:46:34.800 --> 0:46:37.040 but if you want to post in the discord, I 0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:41.960 bet there's somebody watching the stream who lives in that 0:46:42.080 --> 0:46:44.359 area and would like to join you. So feel free 0:46:44.360 --> 0:46:47.680 to post in the discord if you want. Michelle, is 0:46:47.719 --> 0:46:48.839 there anything else you want to say to the people 0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:49.759 the computer before we go? 0:46:52.760 --> 0:46:57.040 Yes, I have a funny story about my dog. I 0:46:57.080 --> 0:47:02.440 have a foam roller and sometimes she gets a little 0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:04.200 heated and starts humping it. 0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:09.080 I do that with my phone roller as well. They 0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:12.680 are very good sexual objects. Thank you very much for 0:47:12.719 --> 0:47:13.360 calling Michelle. 0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:16.799 Thank you, Lyle, talk to you later. 0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:20.319 Now. You see, it's difficult because there were two There 0:47:20.320 --> 0:47:22.440 were really two sides of my brain there when I 0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:24.600 was talking to Michelle, And one side of my brain 0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:28.000 is the one that really wants to encourage people to, 0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:36.680 you know, do their crazy ideas and live their life 0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:40.399 and have fun and overcome their fears. And the other 0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:43.399 part is the part that would be a little pissed off. 0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:45.800 I was walking in the woods and somebody was blasting music. 0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:50.680 But I'd get over it. I'd get over it. I 0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:53.320 hope she does the dance party. I hope she does. Hello. 0:47:53.800 --> 0:47:59.439 Hello, Hi, no wayway, not much. 0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:00.200 What's up with you? 0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:04.240 I was just like watching your stream, Man, this is crazy. 0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:05.960 You actually do sound different on the phone. 0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:09.200 Am I talking to to Steve? 0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:11.480 Yeah? 0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:14.400 Steve. It says here that you're thinking about quitting your 0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:16.280 job at Starbucks. 0:48:18.320 --> 0:48:20.480 Yeah, yeah, okay. 0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:22.440 How you've been working there for. 0:48:25.800 --> 0:48:29.000 Like not very long, like probably like I guess a 0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:34.359 month now, okay, And it's like it's it's a lot. 0:48:36.080 --> 0:48:37.000 Yeah, Why is it a lot? 0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:37.759 You know? 0:48:38.880 --> 0:48:42.160 Honestly, it's like I can do like they put me 0:48:42.239 --> 0:48:45.040 on you know, food or they'll put me on something 0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:47.680 and I can just do a task and that's fine. 0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:51.080 But when when they have me work with people, like 0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:54.520 you know, uh, when I have to like talk to 0:48:54.520 --> 0:48:56.799 people and take their orders and stuff put it in 0:48:56.840 --> 0:49:02.279 the system, that's like, it's it's just a lot. You know, 0:49:04.560 --> 0:49:05.919 customers are good? 0:49:07.040 --> 0:49:09.000 Is it a lot of just unruly people? 0:49:10.880 --> 0:49:14.080 Like it's actually not too bad, you know, I haven't 0:49:14.160 --> 0:49:17.160 had too many bad encounters that I'm still obviously like 0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:21.200 in training and stuff, there's like a million drinks, so 0:49:21.239 --> 0:49:24.160 you have to learn how to make them all and 0:49:24.440 --> 0:49:27.840 that's like the last part of your training. Surprisingly, they 0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:31.759 do like food and then like h register and all that. 0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:38.359 But no, yeah, I've just been just been doing that 0:49:38.880 --> 0:49:44.160 pretty much. And it's it's people are like they're They're 0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:47.080 usually pretty good, but sometimes you get one that will 0:49:48.200 --> 0:49:51.279 just like kind of be in a hurry or kind 0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:54.080 of not care, like you'll be like, hi, how are you, 0:49:54.200 --> 0:49:56.360 We'll just like say their order right away and just 0:49:57.360 --> 0:49:58.000 I don't know. 0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:02.440 Yeah, does that feel like dehumanizing, like you're like a 0:50:02.520 --> 0:50:06.400 human Tablet's. 0:50:05.080 --> 0:50:06.000 Like a little bit. 0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:09.120 And I mean, honestly, I get it because like you're 0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:11.440 in a hurry and obviously people are like it's the 0:50:11.480 --> 0:50:16.200 morning and stuff. But at the same time, like I 0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:21.560 always feel like I'm quitting things, like I like, uh, 0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:25.239 kind of dropped out of college the first time, but 0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:29.360 like you know, it was more of just like a 0:50:30.440 --> 0:50:33.040 I didn't really vibe with that college and stuff, and 0:50:33.080 --> 0:50:37.759 it was during COVID, but then like I'm in I'm 0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:39.640 in school again. Now I go to a county, but 0:50:39.800 --> 0:50:40.239 it's like. 0:50:41.360 --> 0:50:45.040 Uh, still just like not the vibe at all. 0:50:46.160 --> 0:50:48.120 So you feel like you have a problem with quitting 0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:49.000 things too early. 0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:55.200 Maybe I don't know. That's kind of why why I'm 0:50:55.239 --> 0:50:56.120 like having a dilemma. 0:50:57.080 --> 0:51:03.880 Well, it's interesting when I think about quitting, it's there's 0:51:03.920 --> 0:51:09.279 there's no there's as much pride in staying as there 0:51:09.320 --> 0:51:15.640 is in quitting. Right, Wow, Yeah, I think I don't know. 0:51:16.000 --> 0:51:19.560 I think there's something to be said about having h 0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:25.279 consistency and being able to stick through to the end 0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:28.240 of something, but there's also something to be said about 0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:32.040 being self aware enough to realize that the situation doesn't 0:51:32.080 --> 0:51:37.280 work for you and moving on from it. Yeah, what's 0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:41.719 all right? So you're twenty one? What's what else is 0:51:41.800 --> 0:51:43.799 going on in your life? Are you see? What are 0:51:43.800 --> 0:51:45.120 you in? What are you in school for? 0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:51.480 Uh, it's like I'm in the process of changing my major. 0:51:52.440 --> 0:51:56.000 It's like a whole thing, and I kind of don't 0:51:56.000 --> 0:51:58.000 know what I want to change too, because I was 0:51:58.080 --> 0:52:04.120 just doing business. But it was like I just really 0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:10.160 wasn't like like I know I could do the work, 0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:13.400 like I'm very capable of it, but it's I just 0:52:13.440 --> 0:52:18.040 really wasn't like into it at all or interested, Like 0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:19.319 it didn't mean being to me at all. 0:52:20.360 --> 0:52:21.560 M hm m hm. 0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:24.600 But then, so. 0:52:27.280 --> 0:52:29.040 Do you have anything that is interesting to you? 0:52:31.600 --> 0:52:34.680 Uh yeah, kind of. E'm into like botany and stuff 0:52:34.719 --> 0:52:38.200 and plants, but I'm not exactly sure what I would. 0:52:37.960 --> 0:52:42.920 Do with that. Yeah, are you paying money to go 0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:43.400 to school? 0:52:45.920 --> 0:52:46.160 Uh? 0:52:46.239 --> 0:52:50.120 Yeah, but it's county, so it's not you know, Christian's pretty. 0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:52.600 Low, right mhm. 0:52:54.880 --> 0:52:55.280 Mhmm. 0:52:56.760 --> 0:53:02.480 Yeah. So that's kind of just like I. I always 0:53:02.520 --> 0:53:04.880 feel like I'm trying to make the decisions for like 0:53:05.040 --> 0:53:10.080 my happiness and like to try and you know, keep 0:53:10.080 --> 0:53:13.239 myself heading in a direction that will eventually make me 0:53:13.320 --> 0:53:16.800 happy or what I what I want to go towards. 0:53:16.800 --> 0:53:18.920 But then I'm like, maybe I'm just like giving up 0:53:18.920 --> 0:53:22.480 on things too early and like not not seeing things through. 0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:26.200 But I don't know m hm hm. 0:53:27.600 --> 0:53:27.759 Hm. 0:53:29.080 --> 0:53:30.840 But at the end of the day, you know, you 0:53:30.960 --> 0:53:34.719 just wake up and you go to work sometimes, so m. 0:53:37.600 --> 0:53:42.080 Yeah, man, I don't know, I I uh, I don't know. 0:53:42.120 --> 0:53:43.440 I don't know how to I don't know how to 0:53:43.440 --> 0:53:46.239 be uh, how to tell you what to do. 0:53:48.120 --> 0:53:55.040 Yeah, it's all right. I mean, you know, I didn't 0:53:55.040 --> 0:53:56.759 even think I was going to get in. I just 0:53:56.840 --> 0:54:03.200 like called that was crazy. 0:54:06.400 --> 0:54:09.319 What's your ultimate dream in life? Man? What do you 0:54:09.360 --> 0:54:12.920 what do you ultimately want to do? Uh? 0:54:15.040 --> 0:54:19.880 I really don't know. I I think like high school 0:54:20.920 --> 0:54:23.319 took the fun out of a lot of things for me. 0:54:24.600 --> 0:54:30.080 Well like I mean, I don't know, just like learning 0:54:30.120 --> 0:54:31.759 and I don't I feel like I don't love the 0:54:31.760 --> 0:54:34.680 whole like structured class environment stuff. But I feel like 0:54:35.400 --> 0:54:37.920 then again, maybe it's just like a lazy excuse. 0:54:38.200 --> 0:54:44.640 You know. Well, while you said you like botany, right, yeah, 0:54:45.680 --> 0:54:52.480 why don't you explore that more? What can you do? 0:54:52.960 --> 0:54:53.080 Uh? 0:54:54.360 --> 0:54:56.200 What can you do with a job? And but what 0:54:56.239 --> 0:55:02.200 can you do with in botany? Are their jobs available 0:55:02.239 --> 0:55:02.480 for you? 0:55:04.640 --> 0:55:08.239 I honestly I don't know. I've looked into you like 0:55:08.280 --> 0:55:09.080 a tiny bit. 0:55:08.960 --> 0:55:17.920 But not not like realistically, you know, why don't you 0:55:17.960 --> 0:55:20.319 look into that? You give it a shot if you 0:55:20.320 --> 0:55:23.680 think that that's what you like. I mean, I mean, 0:55:23.719 --> 0:55:25.160 if you haven't even looked into it, how do you 0:55:25.239 --> 0:55:26.520 even know that it's not an option? 0:55:28.480 --> 0:55:32.240 I mean, I don't know. It's just like it feels 0:55:32.239 --> 0:55:34.400 like a lot of I would I would have to 0:55:34.480 --> 0:55:37.080 do like a whole like four year degree, which like 0:55:37.800 --> 0:55:41.279 I don't know if I want to do like I 0:55:41.320 --> 0:55:43.799 don't know, it's just a lot involved. 0:55:45.080 --> 0:55:45.600 Mm hmmm. 0:55:53.160 --> 0:55:55.480 Let's see somebody is saying that trade school is a 0:55:55.480 --> 0:55:56.040 good idea. 0:55:58.719 --> 0:55:59.640 Yeah, that's a good idea. 0:55:59.640 --> 0:56:01.520 I guess you have ever thought about doing that? 0:56:04.080 --> 0:56:09.040 Uh like, yeah, possibly, I could definitely think about it. 0:56:10.440 --> 0:56:12.080 Yeah, yeah, exploy your options. 0:56:12.120 --> 0:56:13.560 I mean, it's not like end of the world. 0:56:13.960 --> 0:56:18.400 I'm just like kind of vibing along as joined the military. 0:56:18.440 --> 0:56:24.200 You could join the military, there's probably a much there'd 0:56:24.200 --> 0:56:30.040 probably be a much larger commitment than that'd probably be 0:56:30.040 --> 0:56:35.680 a much larger commitment than you know, school, but only 0:56:35.719 --> 0:56:40.040 fans you can try that. I'm sorry, I can't be 0:56:40.080 --> 0:56:41.840 of more help to you, Steve, and I. 0:56:41.680 --> 0:56:44.920 I no, no, man, honestly, just talking to you, like 0:56:45.000 --> 0:56:47.879 as the name my day. It's like, you know, I've 0:56:47.880 --> 0:56:50.360 worked tomorrow to be there early, and it's just like 0:56:51.560 --> 0:56:54.240 this is this is great, like kind of talk through. 0:56:55.080 --> 0:56:57.520 Okay, good? Good? Is there any other kind of aspect 0:56:57.560 --> 0:57:00.359 of this that you you wanted to talk talk about 0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:01.680 that you feel like you didn't get to. 0:57:03.840 --> 0:57:10.839 Uh no, I mean it's pretty much it's like, yeah, 0:57:11.160 --> 0:57:12.239 a lot going on, but. 0:57:14.120 --> 0:57:18.200 Yeah, well, Steven, is there anything else that you want 0:57:18.200 --> 0:57:19.880 to say? To the people of the computer before we go. 0:57:22.560 --> 0:57:27.080 Uh, I will say, to be kind to people, and 0:57:28.000 --> 0:57:31.360 you know, you don't know what's going on in leave life. Yeah, 0:57:31.400 --> 0:57:34.000 and you know, sometimes just a little thing can just 0:57:34.000 --> 0:57:35.960 like honestly be great for somebody. 0:57:36.200 --> 0:57:41.720 So yeah, man, I uh I agree. You know. Look, 0:57:41.760 --> 0:57:44.280 I hope I hope that you don't get kind of 0:57:45.040 --> 0:57:50.200 battered down by the people who you're interacting with it 0:57:50.280 --> 0:57:53.240 you're Barissa job and uh, you know, I hope that 0:57:53.320 --> 0:57:59.080 what you just told me, the you know, about wanting 0:57:59.120 --> 0:58:03.160 to be kind to people and whatnot. I hope that you, 0:58:03.240 --> 0:58:06.840 in in whatever situation that you're in, find ways to 0:58:08.960 --> 0:58:16.120 practice that. Yeah. Definitely, thank you for calling Stephen. 0:58:17.400 --> 0:58:18.800 Thank you good night. 0:58:27.960 --> 0:58:31.960 Mm hmmm, I don't I I you know, it's tough, man. 0:58:32.080 --> 0:58:36.480 I it's tough with like advicey things. And I appreciate that. 0:58:36.520 --> 0:58:39.840 Steven said that he just felt like talking about it 0:58:40.280 --> 0:58:48.880 because I I, I don't know. I wonder, I wonder, 0:58:48.880 --> 0:58:50.680 I guess how to best serve this thing, because I 0:58:50.800 --> 0:58:55.080 I'm more and more and more. Actually, the it's funny, 0:58:55.080 --> 0:58:57.560 the more I do this, though, the less qualified I 0:58:57.600 --> 0:59:02.360 feel too, you know, advise people and anything because it's 0:59:02.400 --> 0:59:04.480 so taugh. It's so tough. I was just I was 0:59:04.480 --> 0:59:05.920 just saying this at the beginning of the stream. It's 0:59:05.960 --> 0:59:11.200 so tough to navigate things. And it's it's something I'm 0:59:11.960 --> 0:59:15.760 struggling with, like immensely now with on you know, with myself, 0:59:16.600 --> 0:59:22.640 and I don't know, it's it's I guess nice to 0:59:22.640 --> 0:59:25.400 commiserate with other people who are struggling with the same thing. 0:59:25.400 --> 0:59:27.160 And I think that's a lot of people out there. 0:59:30.640 --> 0:59:33.880 I think the main thing I got from Stephen is 0:59:34.280 --> 0:59:38.440 like he's faced with this challenge that all of these 0:59:38.480 --> 0:59:45.880 people that all of these people uh come to his 0:59:46.000 --> 0:59:52.360 coffee shop and they don't take the time to uh, 0:59:53.400 --> 0:59:55.400 you know, kind of talk to him like he's a person. 0:59:55.640 --> 0:59:58.480 But he's understanding about that because you can't control how 0:59:58.520 --> 1:00:01.360 other people act towards you, and he and he recognizes 1:00:01.360 --> 1:00:03.480 that and understands it and is not bitter about it, 1:00:03.520 --> 1:00:06.320 which is great because I think it's something that's easy 1:00:06.400 --> 1:00:15.480 to be bitter about. And I think for him, you know, 1:00:15.560 --> 1:00:18.400 even when the job gets tough, I think, uh, the 1:00:18.440 --> 1:00:20.600 best thing he could probably do is is really learn 1:00:20.720 --> 1:00:24.160 to take those punches and and if he really truly 1:00:24.240 --> 1:00:28.160 believes in these these things that he's talking about of 1:00:29.560 --> 1:00:33.120 you know, how he wants to be in the world. Uh, 1:00:33.960 --> 1:00:36.880 he'll learn how to be them, even in the face 1:00:36.920 --> 1:00:39.520 of unruly people. I think that that's the opportunity that 1:00:39.600 --> 1:00:43.680 this you know, position is granting him. I think he 1:00:43.720 --> 1:00:48.000 should take advantage of that opportunity to the degree that 1:00:48.080 --> 1:00:51.160 it's beneficial and not let it, you know, destroy him. 1:00:52.720 --> 1:00:55.520 Goes on the line, taking your phone calls. 1:00:55.320 --> 1:00:57.360 Every nine, everything goes. 1:00:58.320 --> 1:01:03.000 He's teaching you, but he's not really an expert.