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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, man, I'm good.

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Speaker 1: I've been showing. I'm making some chicken and vice right now,

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Speaker 1: waiting to tell you this story I have.

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Speaker 3: What is the story you have?

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Speaker 1: Well? All right, So I have this friend. I've been

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Speaker 1: friends with him since high school and I take family

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Speaker 1: trips usually every year with my family to our home country,

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Speaker 1: and he kind of invited himself on this trip a

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Speaker 1: couple of months ago. Well, not him, his mom. His

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Speaker 1: mom came up to me and was like, Hey, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to surprise him with tickets on your family trip.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, what, Like, okay, I guess. So

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Speaker 1: that was where it started.

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Speaker 3: Wait, step back real quick. So okay, his mom. So,

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Speaker 3: first of all, where's your home country?

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Speaker 1: Uh, Honduras, Duras.

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Speaker 3: So your friend, his mom comes up and is like,

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Speaker 3: I'm surprising hit myself on with tickets to go to

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Speaker 3: Honduras with you. Yes, exactly, bizarre.

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Speaker 1: Okay continue, yeah, yeah, all right, So we go on

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Speaker 1: this trip. We go on the trip finally, and it's

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Speaker 1: around New Year's and uh, my mom has a house there.

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Speaker 1: So we have a little New Year's party on the

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Speaker 1: thirty first with all the family over, like all my uncles,

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Speaker 1: all my aunts, every single one of my cousins is there.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a family function, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: my family likes to drink alcohol, and you know, they

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Speaker 1: like to have a good time. People there were drunk

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Speaker 1: and stuff. They weren't having a good time. But my friend,

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Speaker 1: he likes to drink a lot, so he kind of

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Speaker 1: got blackout wasted and drank these three entire bottles of

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Speaker 1: like the cheapest hardest liquor that they sell over there,

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Speaker 1: and uh, he ended up asking my cousins around for

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Speaker 1: coke throughout the night and I had to find out

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Speaker 1: for one of them. And that was kind of the

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Speaker 1: first red flag of many on this trip that he

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Speaker 1: invited himself on. But I kind of brushed it under

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Speaker 1: the rug the next morning, and you know, I'm a

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Speaker 1: good friend. But then we go on this another like

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Speaker 1: we go on this island, on h on this in

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Speaker 1: my country or whatever, and he starts talking to my

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Speaker 1: one of my closest cousins. She's around my age as well,

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Speaker 1: and he starts talking to her like privately on WhatsApp

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, like what what are they talking about?

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Speaker 1: And then basically he's he tells my girlfriend eventually that

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Speaker 1: he starts falling for my cousin and starts having a

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Speaker 1: like himself, and how he's falling.

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Speaker 2: Head over deals for her.

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Speaker 1: And he was waiting till after the trip they even

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Speaker 1: tell me any of this because he didn't want to

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Speaker 1: ruin his chances of doing anything with her while on

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Speaker 1: this trip, so he figured he'd just wait until after.

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Speaker 1: I'm finding all of this out for my girlfriend. Mind you,

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Speaker 1: he's not telling me anything because he's telling my girlfriend

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Speaker 1: this stuff now.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, do we know? I mean, how does

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Speaker 3: your cousin feel about your friends?

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Speaker 1: Well, to be honest with you, she actually entertained it

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Speaker 1: as well, so she kind of like, because she's really

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Speaker 1: being talking to him, being nice, and she started, I guess,

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Speaker 1: being kind of flirting with him as well, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I don't really honestly, like, honestly, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Care what they do.

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Speaker 1: They're adults. I'm not mad over the fact that they're

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Speaker 2: Like if he would have just told me, I would.

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Speaker 1: Have been like, Okay, cool, dude, I just don't want

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Speaker 1: to see it, or do you know, like I like

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Speaker 1: he yeah, you know, like I don't really care about that.

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Speaker 1: It's more so how we went about.

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Speaker 4: It, you know.

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Speaker 3: All right, all right, So there was the getting a

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Speaker 3: little too drunk, He's hitting on your cousin. What else

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Speaker 2: What else is going on? All right?

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Speaker 1: So we have another family party at one of my

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Speaker 1: aunt's house a couple of days later, celebrating one of

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Speaker 1: my aunt's birthdays. And we're all there and during the night,

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Speaker 1: I had this other cousin that it's kind of like

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Speaker 1: more of a distant cousin, but but I met her

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Speaker 1: on this trip. So she was at this party, and

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Speaker 1: he met her on the New Year's party at my

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Speaker 3: He's just he's just going after all your cousins.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: He kind of treated his vacation like a like a

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Speaker 1: many girls as he can but except the pool is

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Speaker 1: like my family, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Okay, maybe his mom maybe that's why his mom invited him,

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Speaker 3: because he just like she wanted him to find a

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Speaker 1: I don't know, honestly, Honestly, he said he when I

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Speaker 1: talked to him about it, eventually he told me that

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Speaker 1: he told me that, oh, like, it's not my fault,

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Speaker 1: like it just happened, like you know, like like you like,

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Speaker 1: I didn't expect to just uh fall for your cousin

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Speaker 1: and this and that. Oh, but I didn't tell you

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Speaker 1: he actually made out with this other cousin.

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Speaker 3: I was telling you about what happened. What happened at

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Speaker 3: this this party of your aunt's party.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So she tells one of my cousins, she's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: tell your my friend's name. She's like, tell him that

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Speaker 1: I want to say bye to him, because I guess

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Speaker 1: she was about to leave. So they call him into

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Speaker 1: the room. He's about it. He thinks he's about to

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Speaker 1: say bye to her, and then apparently on his like

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Speaker 1: what he told me was that, uh, she grabbed him

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Speaker 1: and then kissed him, and then he just couldn't say no,

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Speaker 1: so he went along with it. And then made out

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Speaker 2: After it happened.

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Speaker 1: He's like, I just made out with your cousin or whatever.

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Speaker 1: He's like, He's like, I wasn't gonna say no like

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Speaker 1: this and that, Like he was kind of flexing it

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Speaker 1: a little bit when he came into the room.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's bragging about making out with your cousin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's drunk too, so it kind of makes

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Speaker 1: it a little worse. He kind of like is way

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Speaker 3: You know, Damn this man, this man invited himself on

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Speaker 3: your family trip and then made out with your cousin.

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Speaker 1: Yes, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 3: That's that's very funny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I actually ended up talking to him about this

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Speaker 1: after the trip, and during the trip, I was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I was kind of cut off guard, but

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Speaker 1: I wasn't really thinking about it too much because I

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Speaker 1: was just trying to enjoy my family trip. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't see my family too often, Like they all

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Speaker 1: lived in Honduras and I live uh in the States,

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Speaker 1: so I you know, whenever I see them, I want

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Speaker 1: kind of started thinking about the situation more. I was like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, like those things he did was kind

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Speaker 1: I called him about it, and oh, actually I didn't

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but his he had like a relative pass away

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Speaker 1: right when he got back, so he kind of called

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Speaker 1: me and was like, hey, like can you come over,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I was like yeah, sure. So I

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Speaker 1: he's like, hey, man, I gotta talk to you. I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: like what's up.

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Speaker 2: And he's like, I.

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Speaker 1: Think I'm falling in love with your cousin. And mind you,

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Speaker 1: this is when we get back from the trip, you know,

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Speaker 1: like I thought that he had stopped talking to her

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Speaker 1: do you mean? And he's just telling me how he

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Speaker 1: I don't know. He was just telling me all that,

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Speaker 1: and I was just telling him like no, like I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't care what you do. I'm just I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: Information if that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: You know, but I will let you know how I feel,

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Speaker 1: but you can do whatever you want.

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Speaker 3: And what did he do with that information?

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Speaker 1: He just kind of begged me to change my mind.

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Speaker 1: Like right after I told him that, he was like

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Speaker 1: I told him, I was like, you know, like you

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Speaker 1: let you know that it's weird. You can do whatever

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Speaker 1: you want. He was like, are you sure you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna Are you sure you're not gonna be okay with it?

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Speaker 1: Like a like are you are you positive you're never

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Speaker 1: gonna change your mind? And then I was like no,

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Speaker 1: Like I just I just told you twenty times.

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Speaker 2: How I felt about it, Like.

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Speaker 1: See, I'm gonna.

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Speaker 3: Man, there's a lot of there's a lot of moving

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Speaker 3: parts to this story. Is it over? Are you done?

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Speaker 3: Is there more stuff?

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Speaker 1: I think I think that's the gist of it. But

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Speaker 1: he basically just begged me and kind of just asked

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Speaker 1: me like, hey, like you sure wouldn't be okay, And

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Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I don't think so. And then he

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Speaker 1: was like, I can't ask you.

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Speaker 3: A legitimate answer you a question? Can ask you a question?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Well, I okay. I understand why you were upset with

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Speaker 3: him inviting himself on your on the trip and making

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Speaker 3: out with your cousin and just kind of like just

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Speaker 3: generally being a presence that you were not that you

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Speaker 3: did not invite on this trip. It's understandable. But can

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Speaker 3: I ask you, now that it's all said and done

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Speaker 3: and your cousin's into him, and he's into your cousin,

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Speaker 3: why do you care that he's trying to pursue your cousin?

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess I don't care that he's trying to

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Speaker 1: pursue my cousin. I care about like all the background

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Speaker 1: stuff that happened around it, because him in the process,

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Speaker 1: like in the like him pursuing my cousin was a

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Speaker 1: result of his over blackoutness that all my family events

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Speaker 1: and his lack of like respect on hanging around my family. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and just his general demeanor around my family. Like I'm

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Speaker 1: not I said before, like I don't care that he's

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Speaker 1: talking to her or whatever. I talked to him about

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Speaker 1: the way he acted around my family, right, and you're not.

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Speaker 2: As a president in general, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: I actually don't know whether they're still talking.

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Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you for hearing me out.

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Speaker 3: Jack, bless you. Hello, Hello, Elias.

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 3: How are you? Man?

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Speaker 2: Pretty good? Chilling Scott home?

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Speaker 3: How can I get you today? What's going on? Uh?

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Speaker 2: Well, I talked to the call streener and I gave

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Speaker 2: And then the other option was that I just finished

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Speaker 3: Let's do the ghosts. Let's do the ghost all right,

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Speaker 3: You're summoning demons into the home and your wife is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's one specific that I call the mimic that

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Speaker 3: You And then okay, you're okay, Okay, you're gonna we're

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Speaker 2: There's only one issue with that, is it does other

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Speaker 3: Okay, what other demons do you sell?

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Speaker 2: And I actually I actually thought it was gone for

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Speaker 3: What are the demons do you summon into the house?

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Speaker 2: I've ordered things online. That's actually how I first got

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Speaker 3: Most of all. Right, see, I we're gonna I have

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Speaker 2: Well, I think the first thing I did was a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but these ones, a lot of people will almost

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Speaker 3: What is your life like outside of hunting demons?

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Speaker 2: Typical time? Uh mmmmm, go to work, hang out.

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Speaker 3: You know what. I've been suppressing this, but I want

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Speaker 3: Look when you tell me that you're buying haunted wigi

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the voice one was not as much of a

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Speaker 2: as on purpose one. It killed all my plants the

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00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 2: next morning as well, Like when I woke up, all

440
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 2: my plants had died. So I was actually pretty pissed

441
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 2: off about that. And then I've had some other ones

442
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 2: where I wake up with like scratches and stuff, and

443
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 2: those aren't cool.

444
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,360
Speaker 3: Are you sure these are Are you sure these are

445
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 3: demons that are visiting you?

446
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? I live alone, me and my fiance moving in

447
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 2: together till till next month. So I've lived alone through

448
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 2: some of this, and then I've lived with family before it,

449
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 2: and they were the ones, like my mom and stuffho

450
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 2: would get pissed off at me because it's just weird.

451
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: Shit would happen, Okay, So I kind of took moving

452
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 2: on my own as an opportunity to not get complaints.

453
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 3: You get complaints about the demons that you're summoning from

454
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 3: the people that you live with. So you're like okay,

455
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 3: Yeah're like okay finally, So you're like, okay, finally, I

456
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 3: don't have any roommates, I don't have any family. I'm

457
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 3: gonna summon all the demons I want in my studio

458
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 3: apartments and nobody will bother you exactly? Can I introduce

459
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 3: an idea. I'm not a real therapist, you know that

460
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 3: about me, But I do like to think about things.

461
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 3: I do like to wonder things. And as you tell me,

462
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 3: this I'm wondering, is sitting alone in an apartment summoning

463
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 3: demons healthy? Well?

464
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: Like sometimes people, no, people come over and do it

465
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 2: with me. It's just because no one wants to do

466
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,959
Speaker 2: it in their house. I say. My friend, I call

467
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 2: it with a Wigi board. His mom made him burn

468
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 2: it because she started having dreams that there was a

469
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 2: Wigi board in the house. So now we just kind

470
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,239
Speaker 2: of use my house as like the because I mean,

471
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 2: I'm not renewing the lease here. It's kind of like

472
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 2: a toss a.

473
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 3: You're not renewing the lease.

474
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: No, the lease expires next month, and then you know,

475
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 2: I'm out of here. I'm getting a house, so just

476
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 2: leave it.

477
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 3: So you're summoning it. I mean, look, so you're just

478
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 3: summoning all these demons for the next person to move

479
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 3: in and hang out with. But my problem, it's fucking reckless. Man.

480
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know how to feel. I

481
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 3: get calls like these a lot about paranormal things, and

482
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 3: you know, look, I don't believe. Is it insensitive for

483
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,719
Speaker 3: me to say to you? Is it insensitive for me

484
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 3: to say to you that I don't believe that you

485
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 3: can summon the No.

486
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: To this point, I'm still fifty fifty. Like I always

487
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: try to come at it against like well, like when

488
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: I started waking up with scratches all my Okay, maybe

489
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 2: my dog jumped on me in my sleep, so like

490
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 2: I didn't sleep with the dog for like two months.

491
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 2: Like anything that I can do to disprove it, like

492
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: I will.

493
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so let's sit with this for a second,

494
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 3: because I don't think you can summon demons, and half

495
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: of you thinks you can't either.

496
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 2: No, yeah, good, half of me thinks I can't.

497
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 3: Okay, good half. That's like that's like fifty one percent.

498
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: Now i'd say it's like sixty forty. Like this is

499
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: also like it's something to do, you know, But then

500
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: there's times where it's like I can't explain what's happening,

501
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 2: and then it's but I'll just dismiss it because there's

502
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 2: always you know, I'm sure there's always some way you

503
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: could break it down. But I mean, one of these days,

504
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 2: you know, maybe I'll just get something so solid that

505
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: i'll like die on.

506
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 3: This hill again we were. I've like, you're doing this

507
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 3: because you're bored, right, that's part of it?

508
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh definitely partially.

509
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 3: All right, So the work with me on this work.

510
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 3: Is there a better thing you could be doing than

511
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: summoning demons?

512
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I went to school and finished school.

513
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 3: Okay, you ever like play for you.

514
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 2: Doing other So this isn't like a twenty four to

515
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: seventeen Yeah, all.

516
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 3: Right, Maybe I have an incorrect idea of what your

517
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 3: life is because I am imagining you alone in a

518
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 3: studio a park, summoning demons, and I'm like, are you okay?

519
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 3: Are you hanging in there?

520
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 2: No? No, I'm actually I'm doing pretty good.

521
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 3: I know. That's the craziest part of it is you

522
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 3: sound like you're doing great.

523
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, it's pretty We're chilling.

524
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, at least do you have any therapy

525
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 3: advice for me? I'm jealous of you. I want your life.

526
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 2: I actually so do you. I actually always have wanted

527
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: to ask you. And it's funny you guys started talking

528
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 2: about like how you've gotten more empathetic and stuff, because

529
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 2: I actually wanted to ask you if you've ever start

530
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: feeling like you're desensitized because I've been watching you since

531
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: before the podcast, and so I've really kind of like

532
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 2: seen the progression and I almost feel like, to me,

533
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 2: you seem more desensitized now than you did before. But

534
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: there's like certain things that I'll get you excited usually

535
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: when you have a guest on. That's why I love

536
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 2: the guest episodes because it's almost like a flashback to

537
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: to the original Therapy Get Go back when dudes were

538
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: talking about Donald Trump, Donald Trump, time traveling and yeah

539
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: all that.

540
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 3: So to answer your question, I am about as desensitized

541
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 3: to callers as you are to demons. And I'm also

542
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 3: about as sure that the callers are real as you

543
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 3: are two demons.

544
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: Well, that depends how real do you think I am?

545
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: One to ten?

546
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 3: Uh? Fuck, man, I think I would give you a

547
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: you know, I'm going to give you a six out

548
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 3: of ten for how real I think you are.

549
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, we're about do you know maybe because I'm

550
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: more on like the four for the demons, like I'm

551
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: on the other end of the sixty four.

552
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 3: What do you think? It's me? What you mentioned? You

553
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: you have done this psycho analysis of me that I'm

554
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 3: very curious because you see, you're a very interesting person

555
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 3: and I want to hear your analysis of me. So

556
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 3: if you have what do you what do you think

557
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 3: gets me excited?

558
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: It's almost even if it's not like a great thing.

559
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: Sometimes you'll I can just tell you to sensitize because

560
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: it's something different, like weirdly, I think one of the

561
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: most like hyped up I've heard you get recently. Do

562
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: you remember when that dude called in and he talked

563
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 2: about sucking his friend's girlfriend's ass on prom night? Oh

564
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, Between that and there being a guy, I

565
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: think that's the most like energetic and like really into

566
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: the episode that you've that I've noticed, at least in

567
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: a lot. Obviously I don't catch every stream, but just

568
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: like from what I can notice.

569
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 3: That was shocking.

570
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 5: That was shocking that guy, Yeah, that was definitely and

571
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 5: it was almost like he didn't see what was wrong

572
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 5: with that, Like you just fucked your girlfriend, like not sorry,

573
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 5: your friend's girlfriends at Like like that's like would you

574
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 5: rather get punched or would you rather get bitch slapped

575
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 5: backhanded across the face?

576
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: What else do you think of me as? What else

577
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 3: do you make of me as a human being?

578
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think he seemed like a good

579
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: guy that met you in person. I hope to next month.

580
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 3: You can always summon me.

581
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 2: Are you Are you a demon?

582
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 3: Have the mimic No, just summon the mimic demon him,

583
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 3: have him paint his face screen and say things, Nah.

584
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 2: I don't want to mess with that thing. It gave

585
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: me a really bad nightmare the other night.

586
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: What what was the nightmare?

587
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: I I it was just really unenjoyable. So I was

588
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 2: like in my apartment and people I haven't even seen

589
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: in quite a while were here. And for some reason,

590
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: in my dreams, my apartment always looks different than it

591
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 2: actually does, but it always looks the same every dream,

592
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: like the same difference. So there's always a hint of

593
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: confusion almost to myself that I can tell it's not right,

594
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: but I don't know why. So I'm always stressed when

595
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: I have a dream about my apartment. And then I

596
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: just remember going to check my phone and like I

597
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: couldn't see the light coming off my phone. It was

598
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: almost like when someone has one of those privacy protector screens.

599
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: And then I like went to look up at my fiancee.

600
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, are you seeing this, And even

601
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: though she was like an inch from me, her face

602
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: was just like a shadowed outline and I couldn't see

603
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: anything of her face and it was just her voice

604
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: talking to me. And I didn't understand why in the dream,

605
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: but it was really upsetting to me, and then it

606
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: basically was just a continuation of weird morphed places of

607
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: real places that I actually go to and shadow people

608
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: that you couldn't see any features of them, and then

609
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: they just had like people I knew his voices coming out.

610
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 3: Of them alliest. I don't know if you're going to

611
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 3: take this as a compliment or not, but talking to

612
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 3: you makes me feel very high.

613
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 2: I'm I'm well, no, I'm not that.

614
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 3: What is not that high for you?

615
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: Okay? Well, see, I recently found out that I do

616
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: not perceive weed normally because I was listening to a

617
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: Bert Kreisler's podcast today and he was talking about the

618
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: el Blento blunts that are one gram and he was

619
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: talking about like how him and his friend were smoking

620
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: it over the course of a weekend and it was

621
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: a lot of weed. And then I I thought back

622
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: to about two months ago where me and my friend

623
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: both bought one, smoked it in a sitting, said they

624
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: were ship and then proceeded to just go through a

625
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: pack of different house pre rules. And so I am

626
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: not smoking right now. Actually, I'm tee currying off. I've

627
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 2: only smoked a little bit just about twenty thirty minutes ago,

628
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: and then tomorrow I completely ceased for at least maybe

629
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 2: ten days or so. Take a little break.

630
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 3: At least. I'm gonna let you go. But it was

631
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 3: nice talking to you. You're a fascinating person.

632
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: Thank you.

633
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 3: Is there anything else you want to say to the

634
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 3: people the computer before we go? O?

635
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, nope, not that I can do.

636
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, good luck. Ali's trying not to summon

637
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: too many demons. We'll do okay, take care of her.

638
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 2: I will see you in Phoenix.

639
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 3: See you in Phoenix. I don't know, I don't know.

640
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 3: I don't know what that was just now, but that

641
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:25,479
Speaker 3: was fascinating. Yeah, I feel I feel good. I feel good.

642
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 3: Let's keep going. Hello. Hello, who is this?

643
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 6: This is Michelle?

644
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 3: Michelle, what's going on with you?

645
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 5: Well?

646
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 6: Recently on a whim, I went on meetup and I

647
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 6: started a group and the idea of the group is

648
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 6: to go to different hiking trails and I will be

649
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 6: playing music and I'll just dance and the people who

650
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 6: are there can try to copy me or just make up.

651
00:35:59,320 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 1: Their own move.

652
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 6: And I have not done any events yet. I am

653
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 6: definitely nervous.

654
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: But so you started the meetup group. So you started

655
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 3: the meetup group, but you have not yet met up. No,

656
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 3: what is preventing you from meeting up with the meetup group?

657
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 6: I want to have some sound choreography before I.

658
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 3: Go, some soundcravy. Okay. So the point of this group

659
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 3: is to hike and dance as well. Yes, okay? Are

660
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 3: you teaching a dance or you just kind of meeting

661
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 3: up with people who like to dance as well.

662
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 6: So I'd like to have some kind of routine that

663
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 6: people can follow along with, but they they can also

664
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 6: just do whatever they want.

665
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, So all right, let's say I'm in this

666
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 3: meetup group and you Michelle, are like, all right, Wednesday

667
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 3: nine am, we're going to the thing. We're gonna go

668
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 3: to Mount Pickle Bottom and we're gonna climb Mountain Pickle

669
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 3: Bottom and we're gonna do a dance when we get

670
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 3: to the top. Is that is that kind of the theory?

671
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 6: Well, hopefully we'll be dancing on the way to the top.

672
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 3: Oh okay, So this is this is a hiking group

673
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: where you were dancing while you are hiking. Yes, that

674
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: before a.

675
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 6: Little bit I have, but I wouldn't go on any

676
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 6: trails that are too challenging with things to trip over,

677
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 6: stick to pave trails.

678
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 3: I have never heard of a group that that dance

679
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 3: is wall hike.

680
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 7: It me neither, okay, But I was just walking my

681
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 7: dog at the park one day I started dancing and

682
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 7: I thought, Hey, this might be fun to do in

683
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 7: a group.

684
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 3: How many people have joined this meetup group?

685
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 6: Twenty two?

686
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 3: You have twenty two people who heard your pitch to

687
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 3: hike a trail while dancing and said I am in

688
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 3: let's do it?

689
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: Yes?

690
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 6: And they There were even three people who didn't have

691
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 6: profile pictures, and I asked them to put one because

692
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 6: I just want to know whateveryone looks like. And they

693
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 6: wanted enough to put up a profile picture.

694
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 3: How many people say you messages? Have they been like?

695
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 3: When are we doing this thing?

696
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 6: No one has asked when we're starting. I made the

697
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 6: group a few days ago.

698
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 3: And the only thing preventing you from starting is that

699
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 3: you don't have an actual routine.

700
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, and just anxiety in general.

701
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 3: Okay, do you have a do you have a trail

702
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: in mind that you want to do this at?

703
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 6: Yes? I do?

704
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 3: Okay, So all that's really missing for you is some

705
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 3: kind of routine, yes, okay. When you were when you

706
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 3: first discovered the dance hike, did you have some form

707
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 3: of routine or were you simply vibing and hiking?

708
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 6: No, I was just vibing, okay.

709
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 3: And did you have a good time doing that?

710
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: Yes?

711
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 6: I did?

712
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 3: Okay. Do you have some sort of portable speaker thing

713
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 3: that you can bring with you on this hype?

714
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: Yes?

715
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 6: I once I had this idea. I went on Amazon

716
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 6: and I bought this really good speaker. It's waterproof, it

717
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 6: can take a drop. It clips onto your belt.

718
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 3: And do you have a playlist of music that you

719
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 3: think would be good for dancing?

720
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 2: Yes?

721
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: I do.

722
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 3: Okay, here's what we're gonna do. Okay. What's the name

723
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: of the meetup group? Can I ask you this?

724
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's my city.

725
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 3: Walk and Dance, Walk and Dance. Okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna,

726
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna, I'm gonna throw something out at you. I'm

727
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 3: gonna throw some outcha. I don't think you need a

728
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 3: routine because you're really you're throwing a walk and dance.

729
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 3: You're you're throwing a more. You're more throwing a party

730
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: than you are teaching any kind of a class, you know.

731
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 3: So I think that for you to merely invite folks

732
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 3: to go on this walk with you and to bring

733
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 3: music and to start the dancing is enough to accomplish

734
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 3: your goal, which sounds like it is to meet people

735
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 3: and have fun. Yeah, so we establish you don't have

736
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 3: a routine. You don't you know, We've established you do

737
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: not need a routine, and therefore it's okay that you

738
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 3: don't have one, and so now we have to combat

739
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 3: that you are just really anxious about doing it? Yes, okay,

740
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 3: what are you anxious about? In terms of doing it?

741
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 6: I just just having so many people watching me dance.

742
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 6: I've danced like in public before, but it was mostly

743
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 6: like salsa, so everyone else is also dancing and they're

744
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 6: focusing on their own thing. But here I'm going to

745
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 6: be at the in front of everyone.

746
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm hm. Well that everybody's going to be dancing themselves,

747
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 3: that's true. Yes, Michelle, you generally do you have you

748
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 3: always been concerned with what other people think of you?

749
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, to the point of severe detriments to myself.

750
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 3: Well, listen, I think that I think that getting over

751
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 3: that is a long perhaps sometimes even lifelong, arduous process

752
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 3: that I cannot solve for you over the course of

753
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 3: this phone call. But I will tell you this. I

754
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 3: will tell you that some central things. One, getting over

755
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 3: that fear is necessary. It is essential to being able

756
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 3: to live a full life if that's what you desire.

757
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 3: In my opinion, some people could argue with me that

758
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 3: you can live a full life without getting over a

759
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 3: fear of what other people think of you. But I

760
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 3: think if you want to really unlock all that life

761
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 3: has to offer, you need to get over that fear,

762
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 3: or at least deal with it. You don't have to

763
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 3: rid your you don't have to rid your of it,

764
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 3: because you might never be able to accomplish that, but

765
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 3: you can face it and you can deal with it,

766
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: and you have to in order to be able to

767
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 3: do all the wonderful things that life has to offer,

768
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 3: such as have little dance parties in the woods. And

769
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 3: then two, everyone who is going to this thing is

770
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 3: also kind of a weirdo that likes to dance in

771
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 3: the woods. So you are going to be in a

772
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 3: good company. And it's going to be a group of

773
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 3: twenty two people who are all nervous about who are

774
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: all so nervous about being seen dancing that they are

775
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 3: only willing to do it in the woods, so you'd

776
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 3: be in good company.

777
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, you have a good point there.

778
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: I and that that that's what I will tell you, Michelle.

779
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's impressive that you've gone as

780
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 3: far as to actually make the group, because a lot

781
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: of the times I feel like I would get a

782
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 3: call that says something like, I'm thinking about doing this thing,

783
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 3: but you know, you don't even think about it. You

784
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 3: actually did it. But now you have to actually do

785
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 3: the did and set the date, and I hope you

786
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 3: do that.

787
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 6: Thank you.

788
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 2: I will.

789
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna that was I think forcing myself to

790
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 6: come up with a routine before it is just it

791
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 6: was just a way for me to postpone it.

792
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 3: Yes, uh huh uh huh for sure, Yep, that's I

793
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 3: think it's I think it's yeah.

794
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, And when I came up with this idea, I

795
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 6: had no routine, no idea what I was doing, and

796
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 6: I had a lot of fun anyway.

797
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think you need a routine. I think

798
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 3: you were right to say that the routine was just

799
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 3: procrastinating you actually going and doing it. I've had situations

800
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 3: like that myself, where I felt as though there was

801
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 3: a missing piece, and the actual missing piece was just

802
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 3: overcoming the fear of doing the thing. So posted in

803
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 3: the discord. By the way, Yeah, you don't have to,

804
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 3: but if you want to post in the discord, I

805
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 3: bet there's somebody watching the stream who lives in that

806
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 3: area and would like to join you. So feel free

807
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 3: to post in the discord if you want. Michelle, is

808
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 3: there anything else you want to say to the people

809
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 3: the computer before we go?

810
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 6: Yes, I have a funny story about my dog. I

811
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 6: have a foam roller and sometimes she gets a little

812
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 6: heated and starts humping it.

813
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 3: I do that with my phone roller as well. They

814
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 3: are very good sexual objects. Thank you very much for

815
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 3: calling Michelle.

816
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 6: Thank you, Lyle, talk to you later.

817
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 3: Now. You see, it's difficult because there were two There

818
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 3: were really two sides of my brain there when I

819
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 3: was talking to Michelle, And one side of my brain

820
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 3: is the one that really wants to encourage people to,

821
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 3: you know, do their crazy ideas and live their life

822
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 3: and have fun and overcome their fears. And the other

823
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 3: part is the part that would be a little pissed off.

824
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 3: I was walking in the woods and somebody was blasting music.

825
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 3: But I'd get over it. I'd get over it. I

826
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 3: hope she does the dance party. I hope she does. Hello.

827
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:59,439
Speaker 4: Hello, Hi, no wayway, not much.

828
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 3: What's up with you?

829
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 4: I was just like watching your stream, Man, this is crazy.

830
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 4: You actually do sound different on the phone.

831
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 3: Am I talking to to Steve?

832
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

833
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 3: Steve. It says here that you're thinking about quitting your

834
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 3: job at Starbucks.

835
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay.

836
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 3: How you've been working there for.

837
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 4: Like not very long, like probably like I guess a

838
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 4: month now, okay, And it's like it's it's a lot.

839
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Why is it a lot?

840
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 6: You know?

841
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 4: Honestly, it's like I can do like they put me

842
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 4: on you know, food or they'll put me on something

843
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 4: and I can just do a task and that's fine.

844
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 4: But when when they have me work with people, like

845
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 4: you know, uh, when I have to like talk to

846
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 4: people and take their orders and stuff put it in

847
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 4: the system, that's like, it's it's just a lot. You know,

848
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 4: customers are good?

849
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 3: Is it a lot of just unruly people?

850
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 4: Like it's actually not too bad, you know, I haven't

851
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 4: had too many bad encounters that I'm still obviously like

852
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 4: in training and stuff, there's like a million drinks, so

853
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 4: you have to learn how to make them all and

854
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 4: that's like the last part of your training. Surprisingly, they

855
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 4: do like food and then like h register and all that.

856
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 4: But no, yeah, I've just been just been doing that

857
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 4: pretty much. And it's it's people are like they're They're

858
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 4: usually pretty good, but sometimes you get one that will

859
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 4: just like kind of be in a hurry or kind

860
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 4: of not care, like you'll be like, hi, how are you,

861
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 4: We'll just like say their order right away and just

862
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 4: I don't know.

863
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, does that feel like dehumanizing, like you're like a

864
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 3: human Tablet's.

865
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: Like a little bit.

866
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 4: And I mean, honestly, I get it because like you're

867
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 4: in a hurry and obviously people are like it's the

868
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 4: morning and stuff. But at the same time, like I

869
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 4: always feel like I'm quitting things, like I like, uh,

870
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 4: kind of dropped out of college the first time, but

871
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 4: like you know, it was more of just like a

872
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 4: I didn't really vibe with that college and stuff, and

873
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 4: it was during COVID, but then like I'm in I'm

874
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 4: in school again. Now I go to a county, but

875
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 4: it's like.

876
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 2: Uh, still just like not the vibe at all.

877
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 3: So you feel like you have a problem with quitting

878
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 3: things too early.

879
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 4: Maybe I don't know. That's kind of why why I'm

880
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 4: like having a dilemma.

881
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting when I think about quitting, it's there's

882
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 3: there's no there's as much pride in staying as there

883
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 3: is in quitting. Right, Wow, Yeah, I think I don't know.

884
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 3: I think there's something to be said about having h

885
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 3: consistency and being able to stick through to the end

886
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 3: of something, but there's also something to be said about

887
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 3: being self aware enough to realize that the situation doesn't

888
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 3: work for you and moving on from it. Yeah, what's

889
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 3: all right? So you're twenty one? What's what else is

890
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 3: going on in your life? Are you see? What are

891
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 3: you in? What are you in school for?

892
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 4: Uh, it's like I'm in the process of changing my major.

893
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 4: It's like a whole thing, and I kind of don't

894
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 4: know what I want to change too, because I was

895
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 4: just doing business. But it was like I just really

896
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 4: wasn't like like I know I could do the work,

897
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 4: like I'm very capable of it, but it's I just

898
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 4: really wasn't like into it at all or interested, Like

899
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 4: it didn't mean being to me at all.

900
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 3: M hm m hm.

901
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: But then, so.

902
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 3: Do you have anything that is interesting to you?

903
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, kind of. E'm into like botany and stuff

904
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 4: and plants, but I'm not exactly sure what I would.

905
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 3: Do with that. Yeah, are you paying money to go

906
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 3: to school?

907
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: Uh?

908
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's county, so it's not you know, Christian's pretty.

909
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 3: Low, right mhm.

910
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 6: Mhmm.

911
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 4: Yeah. So that's kind of just like I. I always

912
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 4: feel like I'm trying to make the decisions for like

913
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 4: my happiness and like to try and you know, keep

914
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 4: myself heading in a direction that will eventually make me

915
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 4: happy or what I what I want to go towards.

916
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 4: But then I'm like, maybe I'm just like giving up

917
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 4: on things too early and like not not seeing things through.

918
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: But I don't know m hm hm.

919
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 2: Hm.

920
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, you know, you

921
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 4: just wake up and you go to work sometimes, so m.

922
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I don't know, I I uh, I don't know.

923
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 3: I don't know how to I don't know how to

924
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 3: be uh, how to tell you what to do.

925
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all right. I mean, you know, I didn't

926
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 4: even think I was going to get in. I just

927
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 4: like called that was crazy.

928
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 3: What's your ultimate dream in life? Man? What do you

929
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 3: what do you ultimately want to do? Uh?

930
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 4: I really don't know. I I think like high school

931
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 4: took the fun out of a lot of things for me.

932
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 4: Well like I mean, I don't know, just like learning

933
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 4: and I don't I feel like I don't love the

934
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 4: whole like structured class environment stuff. But I feel like

935
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 4: then again, maybe it's just like a lazy excuse.

936
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 3: You know. Well, while you said you like botany, right, yeah,

937
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 3: why don't you explore that more? What can you do?

938
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: Uh?

939
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 3: What can you do with a job? And but what

940
00:54:56,239 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 3: can you do with in botany? Are their jobs available

941
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 3: for you?

942
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 4: I honestly I don't know. I've looked into you like

943
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 4: a tiny bit.

944
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 3: But not not like realistically, you know, why don't you

945
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 3: look into that? You give it a shot if you

946
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 3: think that that's what you like. I mean, I mean,

947
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 3: if you haven't even looked into it, how do you

948
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 3: even know that it's not an option?

949
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know. It's just like it feels

950
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 4: like a lot of I would I would have to

951
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 4: do like a whole like four year degree, which like

952
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 4: I don't know if I want to do like I

953
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 4: don't know, it's just a lot involved.

954
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.

955
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 3: Let's see somebody is saying that trade school is a

956
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 3: good idea.

957
00:55:58,719 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good idea.

958
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 3: I guess you have ever thought about doing that?

959
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 4: Uh like, yeah, possibly, I could definitely think about it.

960
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exploy your options.

961
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not like end of the world.

962
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 3: I'm just like kind of vibing along as joined the military.

963
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 3: You could join the military, there's probably a much there'd

964
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 3: probably be a much larger commitment than that'd probably be

965
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 3: a much larger commitment than you know, school, but only

966
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 3: fans you can try that. I'm sorry, I can't be

967
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 3: of more help to you, Steve, and I.

968
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 4: I no, no, man, honestly, just talking to you, like

969
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 4: as the name my day. It's like, you know, I've

970
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 4: worked tomorrow to be there early, and it's just like

971
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,240
Speaker 4: this is this is great, like kind of talk through.

972
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 3: Okay, good? Good? Is there any other kind of aspect

973
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 3: of this that you you wanted to talk talk about

974
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 3: that you feel like you didn't get to.

975
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 4: Uh no, I mean it's pretty much it's like, yeah,

976
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 4: a lot going on, but.

977
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Steven, is there anything else that you want

978
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 3: to say? To the people of the computer before we go.

979
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 4: Uh, I will say, to be kind to people, and

980
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 4: you know, you don't know what's going on in leave life. Yeah,

981
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 4: and you know, sometimes just a little thing can just

982
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 4: like honestly be great for somebody.

983
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 3: So yeah, man, I uh I agree. You know. Look,

984
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 3: I hope I hope that you don't get kind of

985
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 3: battered down by the people who you're interacting with it

986
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 3: you're Barissa job and uh, you know, I hope that

987
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 3: what you just told me, the you know, about wanting

988
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 3: to be kind to people and whatnot. I hope that you,

989
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 3: in in whatever situation that you're in, find ways to

990
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 3: practice that. Yeah. Definitely, thank you for calling Stephen.

991
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 4: Thank you good night.

992
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, I don't I I you know, it's tough, man.

993
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 3: I it's tough with like advicey things. And I appreciate that.

994
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 3: Steven said that he just felt like talking about it

995
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 3: because I I, I don't know. I wonder, I wonder,

996
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 3: I guess how to best serve this thing, because I

997
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 3: I'm more and more and more. Actually, the it's funny,

998
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 3: the more I do this, though, the less qualified I

999
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 3: feel too, you know, advise people and anything because it's

1000
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 3: so taugh. It's so tough. I was just I was

1001
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 3: just saying this at the beginning of the stream. It's

1002
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 3: so tough to navigate things. And it's it's something I'm

1003
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 3: struggling with, like immensely now with on you know, with myself,

1004
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 3: and I don't know, it's it's I guess nice to

1005
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 3: commiserate with other people who are struggling with the same thing.

1006
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 3: And I think that's a lot of people out there.

1007
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 3: I think the main thing I got from Stephen is

1008
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 3: like he's faced with this challenge that all of these

1009
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 3: people that all of these people uh come to his

1010
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 3: coffee shop and they don't take the time to uh,

1011
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 3: you know, kind of talk to him like he's a person.

1012
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 3: But he's understanding about that because you can't control how

1013
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 3: other people act towards you, and he and he recognizes

1014
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 3: that and understands it and is not bitter about it,

1015
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 3: which is great because I think it's something that's easy

1016
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 3: to be bitter about. And I think for him, you know,

1017
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 3: even when the job gets tough, I think, uh, the

1018
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 3: best thing he could probably do is is really learn

1019
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 3: to take those punches and and if he really truly

1020
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 3: believes in these these things that he's talking about of

1021
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 3: you know, how he wants to be in the world. Uh,

1022
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 3: he'll learn how to be them, even in the face

1023
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 3: of unruly people. I think that that's the opportunity that

1024
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 3: this you know, position is granting him. I think he

1025
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 3: should take advantage of that opportunity to the degree that

1026
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 3: it's beneficial and not let it, you know, destroy him.

1027
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 3: Goes on the line, taking your phone calls.

1028
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 7: Every nine, everything goes.

1029
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 3: He's teaching you, but he's not really an expert.