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Speaker 3: Here we go our number two.

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Speaker 1: I can't get enough of Wemby and now Fernando Mendoza.

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Speaker 1: I think they're my two favorite players. For a while,

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Speaker 1: it was like Lebron Steph Brady. I think my two

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Speaker 1: favorite players now are Wemby and Fernando Mendoza. I've never

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Speaker 1: bought I've never bought a jersey ever, not one. I've

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Speaker 1: never bought a player jersey ever. I got one for

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Speaker 1: Christmas when I was like seven years old.

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Speaker 3: It was the Cleveland Browns and I forget the number was.

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Speaker 1: But I'm telling you this, Fernando Mendoza, what.

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Speaker 4: About Cooper Flag?

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Speaker 5: Would you buy a Cooper Flag jersey? No?

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Speaker 3: I think he's already good though. I really like him.

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Speaker 4: Archie Manning when he goes to the Jets.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, Wow, you are tough on this huh,

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Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza is not just about being a quarterback. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's that I love when people are willing to be

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Speaker 1: authentic and just lay it out there. And yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: a little cringey, I'm a little dorky, and it's like,

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Speaker 1: you know whatever, it's you know what, you know how

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Speaker 1: I feel about quarterbacks. It's a different position. There's only

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Speaker 1: one coach, head coach per team, but there's one head

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Speaker 1: coach on the field. It's not the wide receiver, it's

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Speaker 1: not the edge rusher, it's the quarterback. He touches the

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Speaker 1: ball every snap, and you need a different personality. And

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Speaker 1: I've always you know, it's it's I remember telling a

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Speaker 1: certain broadcaster this year's ago, and he was a young

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Speaker 1: broadcaster with a lot of talent, and I said, uh,

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Speaker 1: and had a little bit of a tude, and I said,

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Speaker 1: just remember, you'll never be the coolest guy for very long.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like beauty, you're the prettiest today, you won't

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Speaker 1: be in eight years.

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Speaker 3: There'll be somebody pretty here.

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Speaker 1: Talent endurers, work ethic endurers, commitment endurers. I can work

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Speaker 1: harder than anybody else for fifty years, but you can't

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Speaker 1: be the coolest for fifteen years because culture changes, style changes.

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Speaker 3: So I love that.

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Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza is like, yeah, I'm not worried about the

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Speaker 1: cool thing. And I said, I thought Cam Newton was

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Speaker 1: the best college football player I've ever seen. Cam needed

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Speaker 1: to be cool. He never had back to back winning seasons.

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Speaker 1: He was distracted. Cool was a really important thing to him.

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton's got more talent than Fernando Mendoza. And I

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Speaker 1: don't think, I mean, I think Cam history of college football,

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Speaker 1: is the most devastating player I've ever seen.

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Speaker 4: Well, for one year he was. I don't care to

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Speaker 4: play one year.

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Speaker 3: I don't care the most.

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Speaker 4: Tim Tebow was more devastating.

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Speaker 1: You're the fastest rocket ever. Do you have to be

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Speaker 1: the fastest rocket.

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Speaker 3: For nine years? Well, no, you don't. No, you don't.

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Speaker 4: You're saying one year of Cam was better than three

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Speaker 1: You understand the world of Olympics, right, If you had

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Speaker 1: to do the longest long jump, you don't need eighty

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Speaker 3: If you set the record, you get.

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Speaker 4: The record individual. There's a team sport.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm saying Cam Newton talent, bigger, stronger, faster, deeper,

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Speaker 1: ball than Menando's not even arguable. It's it's all data.

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Speaker 1: But Cam needed to be cool. Vince Young sometimes liked

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Speaker 1: the cool thing. Johnny Manziel loved the cool thing. Baker

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Speaker 1: could worry a little bit too much about chest out.

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Speaker 1: Just win games, everything, Just win games. I want to

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Speaker 1: talk about another athlete, though, and we've talked about this.

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Speaker 1: When I look at mock drafts, they're sending messages on

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Speaker 1: certain teams, like the Raiders need a quarterback. That's not

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Speaker 1: a message. Fernando's the best one available. The Rams are

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Speaker 1: a stacked roster and have two great receivers. Yet everybody's

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Speaker 1: Lemon from USC doesn't really separate. He's not a burner.

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Speaker 1: You can you can hold him up in traffic. But

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Speaker 1: yet everybody's got the Rams taking one of those guys.

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Speaker 1: Why because of what we've been talking about four weeks.

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Speaker 1: It's not the DeVante Adams age. It's the Pukah issues.

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Speaker 1: Story came out yesterday that Puka has entered rehab, his

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Speaker 1: attorney says, and this is why the aj Brown the

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Speaker 1: Rams rumors surfaced. We've been talking about this and hinting

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Speaker 1: about it four weeks. Stuff is going to come out.

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Speaker 1: Drip drip, drip drip. And it's the reality of pro sports.

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Speaker 1: Some players, especially when they're young, have some personal demons,

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Speaker 1: and pro sports has always been a little cruel and

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Speaker 1: unfair for all sports. It works in the reverse of

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Speaker 1: real life. The average American millionaire becomes a millionaire at

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Speaker 1: sixty one. The average pro athlete today becomes a millionaire

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Speaker 1: at like twenty five, twenty three. And listen, that's a lot.

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Speaker 1: I mean, pukas from a small town in Utah. He

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Speaker 1: goes to LA. He muld have been much better served

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Speaker 1: going to Green Bay, going to Tampa Bay. He goes

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Speaker 1: to LA with McVeigh with Stafford, Super Bowls, number one

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Speaker 1: offense on national TV, seventy five thousand people and the

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Speaker 1: number one, number two media market in the country. It

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Speaker 1: is a lot for somebody that you know that's excelling

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Speaker 1: talked to a lot of pro athletes, even the smart veterans,

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Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, yeah, my first contract, I bought

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Speaker 1: I was playing the game. It's it's a lot. Pro

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Speaker 1: great powerhouse football programs in Hoover, Alabama or Provo, Utah.

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Speaker 1: You know, they don't come from big cities. And now

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Speaker 1: you play for the Philadelphia Eagle and your name's being

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Speaker 1: mentioned and you're getting screamed at by the fans and

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Speaker 1: you're on WIP radio. It's a lot. It is overwhelming.

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Speaker 1: You hear all the time about young people on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Will imagine being on Instagram literally on everybody else's Instagram

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Speaker 1: talking about you. So I hope you know I've said

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Speaker 1: this before, is I think part of them drafting a

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Speaker 1: receiver in the first round is an insurance policy, not

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Speaker 1: on Devonte Adams injuries, on Pukah's stuff. Tom Pellisaro last

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Speaker 1: week on the contract in Puka's future in LA.

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Speaker 6: He's still one of the best players in the entire NFL.

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Speaker 6: He is still somebody who's going to be in line

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Speaker 6: for big contract extension at some point. I don't get

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Speaker 6: the sense that the Ram are really in much of

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Speaker 6: a rush to do something with Pooka. But again, I

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Speaker 6: wouldn't directly connect that to any of the stuff that

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Speaker 6: they've had to deal with with Pooka off the field.

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Speaker 6: He is under contract only for one more year, but

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Speaker 6: you've got multiple franchise tags on top of it. They've

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Speaker 6: got time, and this is probably more so something we're

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Speaker 6: gonna be talking about in June and July, potentially getting

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Speaker 6: done with Puoka and we'll see how some of these

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Speaker 1: Well it is since he said that it is ratcheted

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Speaker 1: up on rehab for Puka. So you know, I think, listen,

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Speaker 1: he's great, He's a Ram. Stafford loves him. You know,

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Speaker 1: Stafford doesn't want to start over with another rookie receiver.

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Speaker 1: He loves his personnel. The Rams defense is young, but

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Speaker 1: the Rams offense now Kyron Williams and Puka and Higgsby

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Speaker 1: And Matt Stafford, you know, most veteran quarterbacks, Brady Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers effort. You know, they like their guys, They like

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Speaker 1: great player and hopefully he gets all this stuff sorted out.

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Speaker 1: So Mike Sando at the other place has been talking

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Speaker 1: to execs around the league here in the offseason, and

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Speaker 1: they're being quoted anonymously, which is people oways say more

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Speaker 1: when it's anonymous. We talked about last hour, I defended

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo bill signing DJ Moore. He also talked to

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Speaker 1: people about the Pittsburgh Steelers, a franchise that's fans hate me,

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Speaker 1: but I'm right, which is, what's your plan?

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Speaker 3: What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: It's an offensive league. Why are you spending so much

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Speaker 1: money on defense? Well, what do you know? Said one

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Speaker 1: An affable talk show host pointed at that the last

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Speaker 1: seven years they got slower, said another, Rico Daddell. Daddell,

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Speaker 1: he's a comfort signing for McCarthy. Are they super Bowl talented? No?

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're a super Bowl team. So, you

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Speaker 1: They've always projected the toughness Mike Tomlin's teams projected this toughness,

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Speaker 1: and you know, it's like the small town bully. He's

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Speaker 1: We're tough, we're intimidating. No, you're terrified to rebuild. You're

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Speaker 1: terrified to rebrand yourself. That's why you've had the highest

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Speaker 1: last four to five years. That's why Aaron Rodgers is

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Speaker 1: So as the league is getting faster and younger, the

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Speaker 1: this toughness and all.

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Speaker 3: This Hey, we are the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: No, what you are is slow and outdated and terrified

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay going to thirteen personnel mid season, changing his

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Speaker 1: is showing up next week.

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Speaker 3: That's terrifying.

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Speaker 1: Or what's terrifying is Vrabel takes his team to the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl and you're one of the rebuild It's like.

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Speaker 3: Damn, what are they gonna be next year?

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Speaker 1: That is terrified somebody that rebuilds really quickly or on

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Speaker 1: the fly, or in week thirteen.

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Speaker 3: The Steelers are not terrifying. They're predictable.

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Speaker 1: Those Mike Sander articles, they are so good, absolutely so good.

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Speaker 3: J Mack was smiling during that one. That was one

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Speaker 3: of the rants here.

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Speaker 5: Well, listen, I was just about to send you a

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Speaker 5: text during the commercial break. You've had some pretty good

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Speaker 5: one liners this week. Are you somebody writing new material

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Speaker 5: for you there in Chicago?

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Speaker 4: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: I put I put carrot top on the staff. He's crushing.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Okay, something's going on.

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Speaker 5: Because you had that line about the Steelers and like

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Speaker 5: the small town bully afraid to like leave the town.

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Speaker 3: That's really good, you know what?

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Speaker 4: And I agree with it.

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Speaker 3: Can I say it? It's that neurogum. I swear to god,

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Speaker 3: I thought it was.

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Speaker 5: Going to that basketball. The Michigan Wolverines game this week.

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Speaker 5: You saw what real dominance is like. So you know

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Speaker 5: I had to set my game up. Michigan Arizona. By

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Speaker 1: Thirteen years in the NFL, about half of it with

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Speaker 7: He was the best player in the National Championship game.

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Speaker 10: He's got real power that works.

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Speaker 7: At any level, and he's just you know, I've been

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Speaker 10: It's a war when you go to practice at Miami.

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Speaker 1: called very, very good. What is your take on the

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Speaker 1: top tackle prospects? What do you see very rarely do

434
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Speaker 1: you have a six to seven guy with great feet?

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Speaker 1: The Utah guys, they got a couple of them that

436
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Speaker 1: appeared to have. That is the class as good as

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Speaker 1: everybody says offensive line offensive tackle class.

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Speaker 7: I don't think there's Trent Williams or Lane Johnson in

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Speaker 7: this draft, but we have to allow a guy like

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Speaker 7: Monroe Freeling you're talking about. Yeah, you know, you know

441
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Speaker 7: these guys are twenty years old, like he's going to

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Speaker 7: I don't know why he actually came out.

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Speaker 10: He only played one year, but that's no you developed

444
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Speaker 10: in the NFL.

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Speaker 7: We'll see what he looks like two years from now,

446
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Speaker 7: when he gets stronger and his core is better and

447
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Speaker 7: all that kind of stuff. Like for instance, Manoa Maronoa

448
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Speaker 7: right now is like I think he can be. He

449
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Speaker 7: looks like a guard playing tackle, even though he's he's huge,

450
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Speaker 7: he's six six and he has tackle us link. But

451
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Speaker 7: he minds me of Zach Allen when he was at

452
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Speaker 7: Notre Dame. I think he could be an All Pro

453
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Speaker 7: guard in this league. But I think he can start

454
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Speaker 7: at right tackle in this league. There's no question about it.

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Speaker 7: I think that Fano and Lomu, those guys at Utah,

456
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Speaker 7: I think they both can be good tackles.

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Speaker 10: Lomu was only twenty years old.

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Speaker 7: I mean he might only be nineteen if I if

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Speaker 7: I remember correctly, like they're all going to get bigger

460
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Speaker 7: and stronger and have a chance to really develop. I

461
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Speaker 7: remember talking. I'm good friends with Lane Johnson. He said

462
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Speaker 7: he never really got like NFL strength until halfway through

463
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Speaker 7: a second year and when he really kind of figured

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Speaker 7: out how to play. And so you got to give

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Speaker 7: these guys a little bit of time to, you know,

466
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Speaker 7: get on the program and get on the strength program

467
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Speaker 7: and figure out what functional strength is in his business

468
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Speaker 7: and what you need to work on.

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Speaker 1: Brian Baldinger, NFL Network does great work. Baldy's breakdowns. Good

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Speaker 1: seeing as always.

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Speaker 10: Thanks Colin. You bet me, I'll talk to you soon,

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Speaker 10: all right.

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Speaker 3: I love guys that sit and watch tape.

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you that interview when he starts talking

475
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Speaker 1: about Mario Cristobal and they're coaching and how they they

476
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Speaker 1: it is like an It's like an NFL nineteen eighties camp.

477
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Speaker 1: I've said for years college football is better when the

478
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Speaker 1: Miami Hurricanes, the USC Trojans, and the Texas Longhorns are good.

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Speaker 1: They just they got a thirty percent NFL field to him,

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Speaker 1: big city field to him. I found the Hurricanes last

481
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Speaker 1: year to be so much fun to watch, and they

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Speaker 1: are committed financially. You know, Miami, I don't know how

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Speaker 1: many of you know this. Miami has literally been changing

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Speaker 1: the last three to four years. It's becoming a tech hub.

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Speaker 1: The richest guy in one of the richest guys in Chicago,

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Speaker 1: Ken Griffith, moved down there and he's trying to get

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Speaker 1: all these billionaires to move down there is keep your

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Speaker 1: Miami Now.

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Speaker 3: They got a lot of lettuce.

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Speaker 4: That's more of a tax dodge than anything.

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Speaker 3: Oh these rich guys like that.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a bit.

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Speaker 5: It's more of a crypto play, which is sketchy as hell.

494
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Speaker 5: And you know that down in Miami they were trying

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Speaker 5: to be a crypto hub like Silicon Valley out west.

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Speaker 5: They're trying to do that with crypto and it kind

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Speaker 5: of sort of flopped.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's a little bit more of a

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Speaker 3: little bit more tech.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, why don't you go ask your rich friends like

501
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Speaker 5: Zuckerberg how things are going down in Florida?

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Speaker 4: All these rich guys moving down there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Miami is officially the fastest growing US city for

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Speaker 1: technology startups. Not one word in there about bitcoin.

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Speaker 4: Because bitcoin's tanking.

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Speaker 5: They're pivoting quickly, listen, go down there for tech, save

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Speaker 5: money on taxes.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure the governor are a little great job with

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Speaker 4: everything down there.

510
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Speaker 3: Maybe I like him, maybe he's a friend.

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Speaker 4: I'm a little bit more never a dull moment with

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Speaker 4: C Squared. That's you, buddy. Yeah, nice job.

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Speaker 3: Oh, if you want to pay all my taxes, I

514
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Speaker 3: can send you a bill.

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Speaker 10: Back.

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Speaker 2: I would turn on the news. This is the herd

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Speaker 2: Line News.

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Speaker 5: We gotta Yeah, I'm sure the audience loved that. Let's

519
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Speaker 5: go to somebody that Colin Cowhard loves near a dear

520
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Speaker 5: close to his heart, Sam Darnold. Colin Sam Darnald had

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Speaker 5: a phenomenal season last year, won a Super Bowl, sixty

522
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Speaker 5: seven percent completions, four thousand yards, twenty five touties, and

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Speaker 5: GM John Schneider talked to Foxsports dot Com and said,

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Speaker 5: it's crazy to say because he won fourteen games last year,

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Speaker 5: but Darnald can be even better in twenty twenty six. Now,

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Speaker 5: it's interesting. You love throwing out the two years at

527
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Speaker 5: the data on Donald Great at Minnesota, Great in Seattle.

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Speaker 5: I will push back a little and say, I think

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Speaker 5: this Clint Kubiak loss to the Raiders is significant, and

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Speaker 5: Kenneth Walker was phenomenal down the stretch.

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Speaker 4: Obviously not an easy replacement.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so let me let me push back.

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Speaker 1: So Donald went fourteen and three and fourteen and three,

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Speaker 1: and you're saying, hey, may pull.

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Speaker 3: Back a little.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's possible. He's gonna go eleven and six. The

537
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Speaker 1: guys the winningest quarterback in the league, including Homes and

538
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen the last two years. So saying, boy, he

539
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Speaker 1: may pull back a little. Yeah, I think I got.

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Speaker 5: To set you up with some meatballs occasionally so you

541
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Speaker 5: can knock him out of the park.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. So what are you saying.

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Speaker 5: If we do a top ten quarterback rankings in the

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Speaker 5: offseason as Darnald in.

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Speaker 3: There, how can he not be How could he not

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Speaker 3: be a top ten?

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Speaker 4: So is brock Purty in there. No, oh boy, I

548
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Speaker 4: can't listen to the how in the world.

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Speaker 1: And Sam Darnold, who just hoisted a trophy, had a

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Speaker 1: perfect playoff run off a year in which he was

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Speaker 1: getting MVP talk.

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Speaker 3: You're not going to put him top ten?

553
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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, Jalen Hurts hoisted a trophy a year ago,

554
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Speaker 5: thirteen months ago.

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Speaker 1: I think Jalen Hurts is close top ten, probably twelve

556
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Speaker 1: for me. I'm not as high on him as you are,

557
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Speaker 1: and that's been the case for two years. Yeah, and

558
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Speaker 1: brock Perty is good, but I think brock Perty's probably

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Speaker 1: closer to eleven or twelve.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Brock's twenty eight.

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Speaker 4: We have the Donald postseason stay.

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Speaker 5: That's five touchdowns, zero turnovers, one hundred and two passer rating. Now,

563
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Speaker 5: the Niners did not feel it. I think they had

564
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Speaker 5: like a mass unit on defense there, so that doesn't count.

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Speaker 5: He did perform well against the Rams at home, and

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Speaker 5: then the Patriots defense is whatever, So I don't know

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Speaker 5: top ten. Interesting you have him definitely top ten. I

568
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Speaker 5: got to see that list.

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Speaker 1: I think closer to ten than one. But I mean, again,

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Speaker 1: how long can Patrick Mahomes play average football?

571
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Speaker 3: And we keep him at one or two. Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa,

572
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Speaker 3: Who's we?

573
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Speaker 4: Who's we here? That's not me.

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Speaker 5: Mahomes was bad last year before the injury. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 5: no that maybe Donald Cracksta.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I haven't. I haven't drilled deeply either.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I love CJ. Stroud, but I think he's

578
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Speaker 1: moving out of the top ten the last two years.

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Speaker 1: I still think he's tremendously I think he's so gifted.

580
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Speaker 1: But yesterday land Zerline comes on, he's like his footwork shot. Well, okay,

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Speaker 1: then I can't. I mean, I mean, outside of Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: maybe Joe Burrow when he's healthy. Like Mahomes the last

583
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Speaker 1: two years, has been had moments, but hasn't been consistent

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Speaker 1: at all.

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Speaker 5: It's gone all his fault. Who do you think was

586
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Speaker 5: better last year? Dak Prescott or Sam Donald?

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Speaker 3: Sam Donald's a better quarterback, more talented?

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Speaker 4: Wow, Jordan Love or Sam Donald?

589
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Speaker 3: Sam Donald? More consistent? Oh boy?

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Speaker 1: Sam has an occasional stinker. Hey you know, I mean

591
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Speaker 1: sometimes you know, chef burns the cake. It doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: you're a bad cook. Sam has the occasional Sam will

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Speaker 1: go sideways a couple of times a year he'll have

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Speaker 1: a couple of two pick halves and you're like, Sam,

595
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Speaker 1: what are you doing? But that's Brady had a pick

596
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Speaker 1: six in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: So wild interesting. Wow, Okay, I did not expect that.

598
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Speaker 4: But here we are. Let's go to the NBA.

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Speaker 5: Colin where we've heard a lot of talk about whether

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Speaker 5: or not Lebron James will stay in La go to Cleveland,

601
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Speaker 5: go somewhere else.

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00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 4: Well, rich Ball has chimed in.

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Speaker 5: I have a theory on this, but he went on

604
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Speaker 5: his podcast to shut down speculation about Lebron definitely staying

605
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Speaker 5: with the Lakers.

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00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 4: Here we go.

607
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Speaker 3: You got all this speculation, you got every article.

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Speaker 9: What happens is you just have these algorithms pick up

609
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Speaker 9: and everybody's talking.

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Speaker 10: So you're saying, there's no truth to it, to those

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Speaker 10: five teams.

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Speaker 3: There's no truth to any of it.

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Speaker 4: I don't first, I don't know what's happening.

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Speaker 3: Remember when you just said, leave half of what you see,

615
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Speaker 3: none of what you hear.

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Speaker 10: I believe any of that. I'm telling you don't know

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Speaker 10: what's happening.

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Speaker 4: I do not know. He don't know either, He don't know.

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Speaker 4: We don't even talk about it.

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Speaker 1: I know, Okay, they do talk about it, but they

621
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Speaker 1: do talk about it. But I think Rich Paul's being truthful.

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Speaker 1: They don't know, they don't know. Is Lebron willing to

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Speaker 1: take a pay cut? The Mark Walters group, these guys

624
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Speaker 1: are sharp. Okay, they don't know yet. What if they

625
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Speaker 1: get what if they lay an egg? Can't defend anybody

626
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Speaker 1: play Minnesota first round and it's ugly. What if they

627
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Speaker 1: end up in the Western Conference finals and Lebron is

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Speaker 1: willing to be a third option and says to him,

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Speaker 1: I'll take a pay cut, Well, then it's.

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Speaker 3: A different argument. Then it's a different discussions.

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Speaker 4: That's one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: Now, the question of how much of the pay cut

633
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Speaker 5: is why I think Rich Paul's talking about this with

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Speaker 5: the Lakers cooking. Oh, Lebron's at fifty milk. Can you

635
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Speaker 5: imagine him at ten million dollars next year? This team

636
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 5: has room for you add whoever. Now, I'm sure Ritz

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Speaker 5: Paul here's that and it is like, uh h, Lebron

638
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 5: ain't paying for playing for ten million. So he's pushing

639
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Speaker 5: back against the narrative. But you're right, could be a

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Speaker 5: first round flame out. Yeah, I Conference finals I.

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Speaker 1: Think this is one of the things in life, Like

642
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Speaker 1: when the Dodgers went after O Tawny, they plan that

643
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Speaker 1: two years in advance. They literally there was I was

644
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Speaker 1: told there was a game plan two years in advance.

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Speaker 1: They knew they were going after him. Okay, so they

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Speaker 1: they knew what they were doing. There are also stories

647
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Speaker 1: where aging stars, you're like, let's just see how they

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Speaker 1: play at the end of the year. Lebron could have

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Speaker 1: an injury tomorrow and they're like, now, we're not going

650
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Speaker 1: to do it. Lebron could be unbelievable in the playoffs,

651
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Speaker 1: and they say, Okay, I do not believe, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: they're going to bring him back for the current salary.

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Speaker 5: No way, there's no shot of that. I will say,

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Speaker 5: I agree with you, but you know the saying have

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Speaker 5: a plan or plan to fail. The Lakers new ownership

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Speaker 5: group's only been on board, I think was at September,

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Speaker 5: right before the season, So they don't have a two

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Speaker 5: year runway here, and they've got to get a lay

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Speaker 5: of the land with this Yannest situation. By the way,

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Speaker 5: very quiet on the honest front. You notice that very

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Speaker 5: quiet as we head into the offseason. All right, final story,

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Speaker 5: Colin is sticking in the NBA. This is kind of spicy.

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Speaker 5: So the MAVs are still without a GM after they

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Speaker 5: ran Nico Harrison out of town. Reports are indicating that

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Speaker 5: the most frequently whispered candidate is drum roll please, former

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Speaker 5: Warriors GM Bob Myers could be the new GM of

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Speaker 5: the Mavericks. Now we know Bob Myers had a rough

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Speaker 5: ending last few years in Golden State. Was terrible with

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Speaker 5: the draft and free agency handling Clay Draymond all that. However,

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Speaker 5: he's a big name and guess who could be drafting

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Speaker 5: in the top five the Dallas Mavericks callin the chance

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Speaker 5: to draft Cooper Flags wingman.

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Speaker 4: For the next decade. That's a great job.

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Speaker 5: And I'm sure Bob Myers would leave TV at a

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Speaker 5: heartbeat and take that gig.

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Speaker 3: No, Bob a little.

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Speaker 1: I I'll tell you go look at the Dallas Mavericks

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Speaker 1: draft and where they're drafting and what's available. Keep your

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Speaker 1: eye on the Illinois Yukon game and the point guard

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Speaker 1: for Illinois Waggler.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be a good bitch.

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Speaker 1: Six and six ye six six SGA feel six six

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Speaker 1: to go with Cooper Flag. You are set for ten years.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you the Dallas this draft, the Dallas Mavericks.

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Speaker 1: I say, listen, they always say, you don't want to

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Speaker 1: come in and be it.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: Bob Myers is like, I don't want to be a GM.

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Speaker 1: At the end of a dynasty, it gets slopped, you know,

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Speaker 1: the late Jerry Krause. It's great to be part of

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Speaker 1: building a dynasty. In the middle of a dynasty, you

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Speaker 1: want to get out of it late because then you

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Speaker 1: have to make tough decisions on personnel. Do we keep

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Speaker 1: Klay Thompson?

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Speaker 3: Do we get rid of it?

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Speaker 1: If they get I can this NBA draft, the NFL Draft,

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants and the Dolphins. Fascinating Dallas Mavericks

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Speaker 1: in the draft.

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Speaker 3: Who do you.

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Speaker 1: Couple with Cooper Flag because that's the whole draft. Which

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Speaker 1: guy works best off him? I think it's the Illinois guard.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 5: So remember when Lebron was a rookie, they tried to

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Speaker 5: make him point guard. It just didn't work.

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Speaker 4: Back in the day, they needed him off the ball.

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Speaker 5: They end up bringing in a point guard. I think

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Speaker 5: it was No Williams and it worked great. Keaton Woggler

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Speaker 5: with Cooper off the ball. You run pick and roll

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Speaker 5: with those two, it could be lights out. So I

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Speaker 5: think you're right. I remember when I was building the

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Speaker 5: Big Lead back in the day, everybody wanted to come

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Speaker 5: on board and write, you know, it is fun.

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Speaker 4: It was kind of we could do whatever we wanted.

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Speaker 5: Once I sold it and the new owners come in

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Speaker 5: and they start telling me.

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Speaker 3: What to do.

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Speaker 5: Hey, you got to move off this guy. That's not fun.

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Speaker 5: And I'm sure Myers was dealing with that. Yes, at

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Speaker 5: the NBA leve.

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Speaker 1: I think at the end of dynasties you can go

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Speaker 1: to Jerry Krause the last dance, you can go to

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Speaker 1: Bob Myers. It's no fun because now players are past

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Speaker 1: their prime. Now players they expect to get big contracts

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Speaker 1: because they're rich. Uh, they're a bit and you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean listen, they're they're legends and their icons, and well.

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Speaker 3: How do I not get a Max deal?

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Speaker 1: It's no fun to be at GM at the ends.

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Speaker 4: Who wants to break up playing staff?

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Speaker 3: Nobody wants to do.

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Speaker 4: Who wants to pay Draymond and Max deal?

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Speaker 5: Then the Jordan Pool fall out, he whiffed with Weissman,

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Speaker 5: Kuminga and so Forth.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was ugly at the end, but.

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Speaker 5: Myers was part of the architect of building that that

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Speaker 5: great dynasty.

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Speaker 8: J Mack with the News, Well that's the news and

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Speaker 8: thanks for stopping by.

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Speaker 2: The Herd Line News.

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Speaker 8: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 8: and neonon Eastern a EM Pacific.

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Speaker 4: Saturday night is Baseball Night on Fox.

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Speaker 5: This week we've got Pete crow Armstrong in the Cubs

743
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 5: versus Jose Ramirez in the Guardians, or Ronald Acuna Junior

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00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 5: and the Braves against the Diamondbacks. Baseball Night in America

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Speaker 5: Saturday at seventiest or only on Fox.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I love to bring in Brian Baldinger

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Speaker 1: on and people that you know, you don't have to

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Speaker 1: agree with me on this show.

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Speaker 3: I would prefer it no. Brian Balding.

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Speaker 1: I were talking about Jalen Hurts and he's too small

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Speaker 1: and he's gotten banged up this and that. But Baldy

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00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: knows Philadelphia well. One of the things he talked about,

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Speaker 1: it's really important. Philadelphia is the loudest city in the country.

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Speaker 1: New York is a city where sports matters. But I

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Speaker 1: remember when there was a Super Bowl in New York

756
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Speaker 1: being in New York and it's like you didn't know.

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Speaker 3: The Super Bowls going on.

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Speaker 1: It's like the un was in town, like it was

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Speaker 1: just like honestly, it was like the city's too big

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Speaker 1: to host a super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: It's the same in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: They do a great job, but I mean La has

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Speaker 1: got you know, if you live in Malibu, you know,

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Speaker 1: even go downtown, like there's just you live in your

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Speaker 1: area because the traffic and New York's got so many

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Speaker 1: things going on, Like sports can get lost and we

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Speaker 1: know the Yankees are great. You go to Philadelphia, sports

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Speaker 1: is number one. That Eagle football. That's what they care about.

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Speaker 1: So there's an argument that Jalen Hurts his personality much

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Speaker 1: like Russell Wilson's and they're.

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Speaker 3: Kind of similar.

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Speaker 1: Are actually perfect for noisy, noisy cities. Russell's going to

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Speaker 1: be a politician, He's going to say the right thing

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Speaker 1: and that's not necessary to Hill was bad in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is going to do the same thing. But

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Speaker 1: there's stories out now that he's harder to coach and

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Speaker 1: he's a little rigid and reticent to change. And Baldy

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Speaker 1: on where Jalen Hurts needs to improve.

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Speaker 10: He's not going to get your beat. But does he

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Speaker 10: hold the ball too long? Yeah? He does.

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Speaker 11: Does he not want to do certain things that maybe

782
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Speaker 11: the offense ask for? Probably, But at the same time,

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Speaker 11: he's not going to get your beat, and then he's

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Speaker 11: going to find ways to beat you. He's going to

785
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Speaker 11: have to adjust and be it better from the pocket

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Speaker 11: that he's been and all quarterbacks have to evolve in

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Speaker 11: that regard.

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Speaker 1: You know, I had said this once about Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland was a tough place for Baker Mayfield to go,

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Speaker 1: just like the Jets were for Sam Darnold. Is that

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield had a lot of hutzpah and a chip

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Speaker 1: on his shoulder. And the Cleveland media, and I some

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Speaker 1: of them I think are very good, but the Cleveland

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Speaker 1: media loves you know, They're just negative. It's their default personality.

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Speaker 1: Just the composition of Cleveland makeup Cleveland personalities, and they're

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Speaker 1: they've been beaten up.

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Speaker 3: For so long.

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Speaker 1: I really honestly think if Baker would have gone to

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Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh, happier organization, great ownership, no Looney Tunes, and

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Speaker 1: Baker McVeigh had sat him down and said hey, scale

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Speaker 1: back on that stuff and the LA media. You know,

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Speaker 1: their teams all win, they're in a good mood. I

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Speaker 1: think Baker going to the Rams or Donald going to

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan right out of college, those guys would have

805
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Speaker 1: been Pro bowlers very very quickly. But you go to

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Speaker 1: the Jets, who never seem to get the coach right.

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Speaker 1: You go the Browns, where you know they're beaten up on.

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Speaker 1: You know, Lebron left to the Miami Heat and they're

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Speaker 1: like worst human on the planet. No, I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's gonna qualify for that. So where you land goes

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Speaker 1: and in Philadelphia. Bill Parcells famously said when Andy Reid

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Speaker 1: got the job there, young Andy Reid got the job

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Speaker 1: in Philly, he said, you do know that's the toughest

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Speaker 1: place to coach in the league. Way tougher than New York.

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Speaker 1: I always said about New York. Boston will be loyal

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Speaker 1: to you day one, but even if you're Ted Williams,

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Speaker 1: they'll crap.

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Speaker 3: On you in the way out of town.

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Speaker 1: New York is really tough when you show up, but

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Speaker 1: once you win in.

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Speaker 3: New York, you're theirs forever.

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Speaker 1: Phil Simms, Eli Manning, I mean Eli Manning had lost

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Speaker 1: his fastball. They were outraged he was benched. New York

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Speaker 1: is for a city with so many different voices. New

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Speaker 1: York's incredibly loyal. If you're a New Yorker, you're there.

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Speaker 1: You're a made man. You are a minted made man

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Speaker 1: in New York. Boston, you could be Brady. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're already selling their stock on Brady. Well, we got

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Speaker 1: we gave him a statue. We get absolute loyalty on

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Speaker 1: every story. Tom's a broadcaster now right, He's got to

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Speaker 1: play it down the middle. Sou Philadelphia is a whole

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Speaker 1: different ballgame, and a lot of it's the talk radio

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Speaker 1: it is. It's fantastic, complete cuckoo for cocoa puffs, but

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Speaker 1: it's absolutely fantastic. There are days, once or twice a year.

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Speaker 1: I'm jealous of local sportscasters. It's always Philadelphia Radio. After

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Speaker 1: the Eagles meltdown, I would die for that microphone. On

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Speaker 1: that Monday, our three coming up,