1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: I just think they what they do fit what I 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: do best, you know, but I do naturally. It kind 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: of seems like it lined up. Didn't hurt that it's 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: asting North, which trun familiar with. As want to get 5 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: back to a team that wins. Playing my best ball. 6 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: Hopefully Ravens we can make a deep push. What is 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: your most enjoyable thing on the football field. I mean, 8 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: it's just making a good block, you know, when you 9 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: make the block, the impact block and play like the 10 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: ball runs right off you, It's just, you know, a 11 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: great feeling. You just want to go get the next 12 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: one in the exact same way. I've also seen that 13 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: you're a guy who will practice here reps in some 14 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: unusual places, like on vaccasion in the store. You know, 15 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone notice is too much. I'm stealthy. 16 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: Football's usually in my mind one way or another, so 17 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: you know, it slips out sometimes. What's the hardest produced 18 00:00:48,960 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: the block? Welcome into the lounge. I am joined by 19 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 1: Clifton Brown. Today Garrett Downing left for vacation one day early, 20 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: the old Friday departure for the vacation. That's rich, shouldn't it, 21 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: Cliff Real Rich veteran move. You know, you know, we 22 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: all know who's dedicated to the podcast around here, and 23 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: it isn't Garrett. Okay, making a strong cage right now, Ryan, 24 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: that's also teaser for next week. I'll say this right 25 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: off the bat. Next week, We're not sure because I'm 26 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 1: also going to go on vacation. But but but here's 27 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: a big difference between me and Garrett. See Garrett said, 28 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 1: I'm on vacation. Naw, I'm out. I'm out. Don't don't 29 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: be calling me now me. I'm gonna be on vacation, 30 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: actually a vacation. I'm not a staycation. But I still 31 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: might record a lounge if we get a good guest, 32 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: getting big time guests. I'm coming. I'll be here for you, Cliff. 33 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, Ryan. But now don't don't get burned 34 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: out on me. Baby. You need a break, so you know, 35 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: do whatever you want, but make sure you take a break, 36 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: all right, I will. Speaking of taking a break, Oh, Cliff, 37 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: you're a pro. Don't forget to take your water break, 38 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: Stay hydrated, stay royal Crown, Royal Canadian whiskey. Wow, Cliff, 39 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: you without Garrett, the transitions are on point today with 40 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: that said, we don't want to take up too much 41 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: time here talking about vacations, because there's we have a 42 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: big time guest here and that is New Ravens free 43 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 1: agent edition, Kevin Zeitler, big time guard who's gonna step 44 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: into the offensive line. Let's get right into that interview. 45 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: We're thrilled to be here with Kevin Zeitler, and Kevin, 46 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: let's start off talking about the most important thing that 47 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna bring to the Ravens, and that is some 48 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: incredible dog trick talents. Okay, this guy, I'm telling you, 49 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: competed with Justin Tucker and Brandon Williams for the most 50 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: Valuable Performer a couple of years back, a few years back, 51 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: and you busted out some pretty nice dog tricks. Can 52 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: you tell us, uh, you know a little bit about that. 53 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: How that came to be all that? Yeah, that was 54 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: never supposed to happen. First of all, basically how that 55 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: all started was my agent said, hey, submid video doing 56 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: some basic dog tricks and you get a free phone 57 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: and you know, okay, easy enough. A couple of weeks later, oh, 58 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: you actually have to go to l A and do 59 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: this whole dog routine on a you know, national televised show. 60 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: I was like, what, Yeah, that was not a great moment, 61 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: but obviously we're like, you know, this is a cool opportunity. 62 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna do it, and you know, end up playing 63 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: like me and my wife my dog out there, and yeah, 64 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: we were able to do it. So you can definitely 65 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: say not something I would normally do. But it was fun. 66 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: Obviously I got to meet some future teammates without realizing it. 67 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: I like that. I like that you'll do anything or 68 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: a free phone, you know, I want to sign up 69 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: for a credit card for a free Jimmy John sub 70 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: you know. So I like how cheap you are that. 71 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: We we got a connection already. All right, So what's 72 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: the dogs. What's your dog's name? And uh, what's what's 73 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: their best trick? Um, my dog's name is Amber. We 74 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: got our way back in as a rescue and uh, 75 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. Like her best thing is definitely spinner bag. 76 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: She just wants to all the treats all the time. Nice. Nice, 77 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: So you know, we'll talk a little football. Just signed 78 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: with the Ravens. You know what, what was it that 79 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: put them over the top of you said, all right, 80 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: the one deciding factor, and you said it was a 81 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: tough decision with a lot of teams. If there's one 82 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: factor for Baltimore that pushed them to the forefront, what 83 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: was it? Um, I just think that what they do 84 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: fit what I do best, you know, but I do 85 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: naturally seems you know, Beth Child with their line coach 86 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: and coordinator and everything. It's just like kind of seems 87 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: like it lined up. Didn't hurt that. It's you know, 88 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: AFC North, which I'm familiar with all that, but you know, 89 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: it's just been the best fit. And Kevin, one thing 90 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: about your career, I know, as you've been extremely endurable, 91 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: other than just having luck, why do you think that 92 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: you have been able to stay so healthy? You have 93 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: to hear um. You know, I think I really take 94 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: my strength editioning seriously, but I also take like the 95 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: recovery and all the other like you know, a body 96 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: work very seriously, just as far as like massage, acupuncture, 97 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: cairo um, rolling out doing different things, yoga, like it's 98 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: just what I enjoyed doing. So for me, like this 99 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: whole offseason, I'm always you know, trying to find learn 100 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: something new, do something new, and you know, whatever it 101 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: takes to keep out there because you know, the only 102 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: way you can affect the games if you're out there 103 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: the field, help with the team. So and I want 104 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: to be out there. I've also seen that you're a 105 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: guy who will practice your reps in some unusual places, 106 00:05:55,480 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: like on vacation in the store. How did you get 107 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: into doing that? And have you ever gotten any strange 108 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: looked from people seeing a guy doing uh, you know, 109 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: some offensive line reps in a grocery store. Uh. You know, 110 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone notices too much. I'm stealthy, but 111 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I just Football's usually in 112 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: my mind one way or another, so you know, it 113 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: slips out sometimes. What's the hardest produced to block? Yeah, 114 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: that's a great question. I have to think about that next. 115 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: I feel like water I mean watermelons. I mean they're 116 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: pretty big. They're like they're like a nose tackle. It's true, 117 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: they are similar, very similar. I'm wearing Kevin. How much 118 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: of it with the Ravens, you know, just their winning culture, 119 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: you know, going to the playoffs three straight years with 120 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. You know the last time you went to 121 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: the playoffs was you know, it was like you can't. 122 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: You were with the Browns before the Browns started going 123 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: to the playoffs last year, you know, and the Bengals 124 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: were kind of building up and then the Giants. How 125 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: much of it was that winning culture with Baltimore and 126 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: kind of going back to the playoffs. I mean that 127 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: was big, you know, getting to this point, you know, 128 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: you want to play us with the established culture, you know, 129 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: and they you know, they know what their identity is, 130 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: and you know, that was a big part in the decision. 131 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: And I'm happy to join in and buy in. I 132 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: kind of feel like, correct me if I'm wrong, But 133 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: I always feel like you're you've kind of like flown 134 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: under the radar, Like you're like a Pro Bowl player 135 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: who hasn't been to a Pro Bowl, right, And and 136 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong, Tell me if I'm wrong. Do you 137 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: think any of that is because of the teams that 138 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: you were playing for, you know, like they weren't having 139 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: a ton of team success, so you didn't get as 140 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: much attention And and you're kind of a mild manner guy. 141 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: Mostly Well I'm in r I guess, but like it 142 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: just seems like you know, you're better than I feel 143 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: like everybody should know who Kevin Zeiler is, like everybody 144 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: should know, like you should be a household name, and 145 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: yet you're not. Kind of you know, how do you 146 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: see that? Why? Is that just is what it is? 147 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: You know there's always people miss out and you know 148 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: it's not a big deal right now, I'm just decided 149 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: to be part of the Ravens and you know, hopefully 150 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: get back to win right when you uh, look at 151 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: this and you you switch teams in the past, You're 152 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: a veteran guy, established player. Is it is that going 153 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: to help you come in right away you think without 154 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: too much of the transition period of getting used to things, 155 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: or do you think that you know, you'll have quite 156 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: a bit to learn quickly once you start getting on 157 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 1: the field, particularly if there's no you know, field time 158 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: before we get the training camp because of COVID. Um, 159 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be fine. You know, I'm used 160 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: to the moving process now, so we're already on top 161 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: of that. And um, you know as far as that, 162 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you always have to you know, adjust 163 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: when you get here. But you know, football's football, so 164 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: things will you know translate easily? Right? Do you do 165 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: you feel like you know when you watch the tape 166 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: of the Rains. I don't know how much you've watched 167 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: already of them that like you're you kind of are 168 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: salivating and looking at their blocking schemes the same. Wow. Yeah, 169 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: you know with the things that I do, the way 170 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: I pull, the power that I play with like this, 171 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: this is gonna just be a perfect fit. Like Marshal 172 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: Yanda was in this offense. Yeah, you know, seeing what 173 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: they've done on film. You know, I was playing the 174 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: NFC North last year when I was with the Giants, 175 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: got to see a lot of film of them, and 176 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: you know, what they do looks fun and yeah, definitely 177 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: that's mew How much is is it intimidating? It all 178 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: kind of following in Marshall's footsteps. You know, they were 179 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: looking for that guy and now you're that guy. You 180 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: know what's the feeling of doing that? I mean, Ravens 181 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: have a nice offensive line history. You know, you think 182 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: of Yanda and some of the tackles and the current 183 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: tackles even like they have some great you know history there. 184 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: And no, it's not so much being Marshall's about being 185 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: the best version of me I can be, and you know, 186 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: getting after it you know, hopefully that lives up to that. 187 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: Can you take us inside your conversation with Marshall a 188 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: little bit more? Oh yeah, so you know we uh, 189 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: you know, connected, and you know, he said he loved 190 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: it out there. You know, he said, the owner treats 191 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: the players well, the system is made to get players better, 192 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: and the team is you know, always ready to go 193 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: and excited. So that was all very appealing. I know 194 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: Derek Wolfe gave you a nice comment the other day 195 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: telling about you one of the best offensive line he's 196 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: ever going against. At this stage of here, what's it 197 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: gonna be like for you going against Derek plays Brandon 198 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: in practice and even for guys as good as you do, 199 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: you think that how's that going to help you? You 200 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: think maybe even take your game to another level. I mean, 201 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: that's a beastly d line to go against, you know 202 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: a lot of the time. So, um, it's just gonna 203 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: help you know when we get to the regular season. 204 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: Was there any part of you that thought that you 205 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: could have landed with the Ravens coming out of the draft, 206 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: Because I'll share a story here with you. I remember 207 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: being at the combine when you were there and I 208 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: went to your press conference thing, and I was like, 209 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: this dude, he looks like sounds like plays like everything 210 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,599 Speaker 1: about this dude screams raven And I remember talking to 211 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: Joe Ortiz, the Ravens director of college scouting. I was like, 212 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: this is Zeitler kid. This I kid looks like he's 213 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: gonna be a player. He was like, tell me about it, man, 214 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: So like, was there any part I mean, you weren't 215 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: far away from where the Ravens ended up selecting the 216 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: Ravens ended up trading back. Was there any party that 217 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: thought that you could have landed with them from the beginning? 218 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: Given like how the whole a draft pros once. You know, 219 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: if I would have put money on it back then, 220 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: I would have put the Ravens very high during that interesting. 221 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: That's very interesting. I also heard a story too that 222 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: you thought you were maybe going to be a second 223 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: round pick or a second day pick, and you had 224 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: a party set up for day two at your house 225 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: and then you got picked day one. Is that true? 226 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: And now how did that go down? Oh? Yeah, you know, 227 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: I mean going into it, you know they said late first, 228 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: maybe early second, but you know, in the event that happened, 229 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: I wasn't about to have a party, you know, and 230 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: not be picked, so set it up for the next day, 231 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: and of course, well they flew me out right away, 232 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: so I wasn't even at that party the second day. 233 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, guess I can't be there, So 234 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: your family as a party without you. Yep. I want 235 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: to have to work right away. That's amazing, Kevin. Kevin, 236 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: why is it that you feel like, you know, do 237 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: you feel like you've been a Pro Bowl snub over 238 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: your career? I? Man, is what is like? I don't 239 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: really care that much. So so when you're looking at all, 240 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: right your career in Baltimore, like that's not something that's 241 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: necessarily on your list, Like what's your list for moving forward? 242 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: As when I get back to your team that wins, 243 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: playing my best ball and you know, hopefully you know Ravens, 244 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: we can make a deep push. Nice? Nice? What what 245 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: is your most enjoyable thing on the football field? What 246 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: what's like the gives you the biggest rush? Um? I mean, 247 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: it's just making a good block. You know, when you 248 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: make the block, you know the impact block of the play, 249 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: and you know it like the ball runs right off you. 250 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: It's just you know, a great feeling. You just want 251 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: to go get the next one in the exact same way. Nice. 252 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: How how much you know you talked a bit a 253 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: little bit about Lamar Jack And do you think it's 254 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: gonna be a different at all blocking for a guy 255 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 1: like that, you know, a running quarterback who can be 256 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: anywhere at any given time. I mean, it's definitely gonna 257 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: be something you have to get used to. But at 258 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: the same time, it gives you opportunities you won't have 259 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: at other places. So it's definitely uh worth it in 260 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: every way. Right now, now, can we count on you 261 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,599 Speaker 1: to call Orlando Brown Jr. And say, hey, man, I 262 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: want to I want to play next to you. I 263 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: don't know if you've seen any of the news, you 264 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: know we need you to recruit Orlando to stay now. Yeah, 265 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: I mean I like to think, you know, if he 266 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: does stay, that'd be one heck of the right side. 267 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: But um, I understand where he's coming from. He's a 268 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: bad account the guy. He played well at left tackle 269 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: last year. So you know, whatever happens, you know what 270 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna be, what's right for him. So whatever happens 271 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: will be good. Yeah, I tell you, I do like 272 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: the sounds of that line. Holy cow, that that if 273 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: you got both those tackles and you oh we got 274 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: Bradley Bows on the left guard figure out center. That's 275 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: that's nice. Yeah, I like it. Yeah, I mean, yeah, 276 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: any theories online. So many good offensive linemen have come 277 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: from Wisconsin. I mean there's a long line of guys, 278 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: uh you being one of them. I mean there's a 279 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: huge history and culture there. Like when you're in alignement 280 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: at Wisconsin, I mean it's almost like you're going to 281 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: the superstar position there, and it's honestly in the weight 282 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: room everywhere. I think they pushed the alignment harder than 283 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: anyone else on the team, and that the guys who 284 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: are out there on the field, they're once striving, you know, harder, 285 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: and it just like, you know, just keeps building building. 286 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: I mean we've had guys who were backups get drafted 287 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: into the NFL like it's crazy. So I think it 288 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: translates really well over the pro to what they teach. 289 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: So I think that helps too. Do you go back 290 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: a lot there in off seasons and work out yourself though? 291 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, I go back about once a 292 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: year meet up with my old aligned coach and you know, 293 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: go through some classic drills, you know, just reset the 294 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: base and all that nice. Well it uh, Kevin, I 295 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: read that you kind of got bullied somewhat as a kid. 296 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: Can you elaborate on that and what that childhood was like? Um, 297 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: I mean just classic, you know, that out of shape 298 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: kid and you know, Paul school just came down on that. 299 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: And then eventually I started getting bigger and stronger and 300 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: they stop that. So did you have to whoop anybody's ass? Uh? No? 301 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: I never tried to return it like that. Um. You know, 302 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: I just went about my business and took care of 303 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: what I needed to take care of, and it obviously 304 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: worked out very nicely. When when did when did you 305 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: kind of make that physical transformation where I was like, 306 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: all right, now I'm a football player. I have a 307 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: football player body, you know. Um uh, eighth grade, going too, 308 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: freshman year high school. That's when things started changing quite 309 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: a bit. And like people that mess with me as much? 310 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: And and how do you do you ever think about that? 311 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: You know when you take the football field, Like I 312 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: remember Marshal Yanna used to talk about, hey man, you 313 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: gotta play this game piste off, you know, you gotta 314 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: go in with that edge, like you have to play 315 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: with the edge every time you take the field. How 316 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: do you get your edge when you go out there 317 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: and he's just honestly going out there. You know, there's 318 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: no other feeling like that right out into the field, 319 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, getting ready to go against the best of 320 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: the best, that you're up at that level and you 321 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: know it's go time. There's no time to worry about 322 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: or way around. It's you go give it your all. 323 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: What what's your playing weight? Usually like having h during 324 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: the season, And have you kept the same diet over 325 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: the years? Have you made changes and you know how 326 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: you what you're playing weight, how you get ready to 327 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: seas and you die anything like that over the years, man, 328 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: it's usually been right around three. And I mean I've 329 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: tweaked my diet here and they're based on you know, 330 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: things like that may be affecting me or whatnot. But uh, 331 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: you know it stays about the same. You know you 332 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: after here. I hear you're a big meat lover too. Huh. Oh, absolutely, 333 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: what you go to dinner? Man? If you have to 334 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: go to a stake Right now, I've been hitting the 335 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: Tomahawks pretty hard Uh, that's been a change up usually 336 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: for a guy, you know, classic high protein. The Tomahawks 337 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,959 Speaker 1: have kind of been my new thing lately. Nice are you? 338 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: Are you good COVID cook? I am not. That all 339 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 1: goes to my wife so she crushes it and make 340 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: sure I'm well fed. Very cool. Alright, Kevin Well, we're 341 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: super thrilled to have you man, thanks for joining us. 342 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: Uh and we can't wait to see you on the field. Yeah, 343 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: I can't wait, all right, man, Thank you, Thank you, Kevin. Alright, 344 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: Cliff Well, really good to hear from Kevin. Not the 345 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: most talkative guy. Not the most talkative guy. He's about 346 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: as talkative as you are. Cliff Well, I might have 347 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 1: him beat actually mine. I think we'd you have a contest, 348 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: have a silence contest. You can stay silent longer. But 349 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: I like, actually, it's refreshing to see a guy or 350 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: you're a guy who's like it looks at the Pro Bowl. 351 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: I kind of shrugs. It show them something I don't know. 352 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: I don't have ever seen that before in a long time. 353 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: He would think a guy who's been the league as 354 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: long as him who's never been the one, which to 355 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: me is crazy and he actually he doesn't care if 356 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: he ever goes to one, so certainly they're bringing a 357 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: person who's not worried about his accolades. I think he's 358 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: really hungry to win. At this point in his career. 359 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: He's never won a playoff game. Um that coming to 360 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: the Ravens, he's got to really be thinking like, Okay, 361 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: this could be the place where I finally get to 362 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: get some glory. So we'll see, but we won't be 363 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: going to him. I don't think it's a go to 364 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: guy after game to really break down what happened, right right, Yeah, 365 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's funny, like you know, here's kind of 366 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: inside the mind of a journalist, like of a writer. 367 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: Is I was like chasing the story of like all right, 368 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: here's like one of the NFL's best guards, like hiding 369 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: in plain sight, you know, because he's been on these 370 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: not so great teams. He has to go to the playoffs. 371 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: You know, he hasn't got any attention, he hasn't got 372 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: any awards at the Pro Bowl, and like, you know, 373 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: like I was kind of thinking, all right, he's probably 374 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: kind of motivated by this. He was just like, nah, 375 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: he just took a shotgun to my story angle. He's like, nah, 376 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: that's not the angle, or maybe that is the angle. 377 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: The angles just said. He doesn't care. Yeah, it's interesting, 378 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 1: it's different. But I think, uh, he brightened up a 379 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: lot talking about Wisconsin. Yeah, brightens up talking about eating meat. 380 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: So you've got got a few things to work man. 381 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: I think Joe, I think Joe Neil Sandra is gonna 382 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: love working with this guy too. I mean, imagine a 383 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: guy who does work out, you know, footwork practice on vacation, uh, 384 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: you know, in grocery stores. I mean he'll be the 385 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: first guy I think on the field for drills. So 386 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: I think the posters are gonna love him. I think 387 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: teammates are gonna love him too. He's well respected amongst 388 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: his peers. It's always so I'm always just to see 389 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: what of players have to say about players, and you know, 390 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: to hear a guy like Derek Wolf who definitely doesn't 391 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: just hand out praise, you know, left and right talking 392 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: about this is a guy we couldn't have signed a 393 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: better person. He respects how good he is. That to me, 394 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: he's like, whoa, Okay, this guy is a player. He's 395 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: exactly I think what the rings needed that's yeah, I 396 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: absolutely agree. It's funny. He kind of does remind me 397 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: of Yonda in a way. I mean, Yanda wasn't the 398 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: biggest talker for much of his career either. He'd be like, 399 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: you know, every time you go to talk to Yonda, 400 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: he kind of jan a joking way, rolls eyes and 401 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: oh you guys again, I gotta talk to you guys, 402 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: you know, and uh, you know, Marshall has had his 403 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: own kind of unique sense of humor. But uh, he's 404 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: just down. It's just it's all business man. It's business 405 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: and like yeah, and and he's just a focused, like 406 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: team guy. And um so I think he's a he's 407 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: a perfect candidate to step into that hole that the 408 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: Ravens really last year. You know, I think it's funny now, 409 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 1: you know, you look at this offensive line and and 410 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: especially if Orlando stays, Orlando does not get traded, who 411 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: I mean, the Ravens are gonna have one of the 412 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: best offensive lines in football. I mean, you're looking at 413 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: it would be hard you need to be hard pressed 414 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: to say there's a better team with with a better 415 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: tackle duo than Ronnie Stanley and Orlando Brown, particularly if 416 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: Ronnie's healthy. And now you talk about Bradley Bradley Bozeman, 417 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: who is really emerged as a top tier guard, you know. 418 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: I mean he's a very very solid player. And now 419 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: Kevin Zeitler. I think it remains to be seen exactly 420 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: how center shakes out. Who the starting center will be 421 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: Team McCarry, Tristan Colone, Caestio, or whether they sign somebody 422 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: or draft somebody high. But sure sign me up for 423 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: that offensive line any day, no question. And we know 424 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: that the Raves are gonna run the football well period. 425 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: But well I would love to to see too, is 426 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: maybe this year. Sometimes when Lamar goes back to pass, 427 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: he's looking around, looking around, checking his watch, you know. 428 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: And you know I can see some other quarterbacks with 429 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: that kind of time. I mean, we know Lamar can't escape, 430 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: uh if the Russia is there. But if if Zeyla 431 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: can help eliminate that pressure right up Lamar's phase, I mean, 432 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: I could make a huge difference, uh, And what the 433 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: Ravens can do and what Lamar can do in the 434 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: passing game. And there's been a lot of talking about 435 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: wide receiver and the fact that the Ravens haven't signed 436 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: one in free agency. Yet as of one seventeen pm 437 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: on Thursday or Friday afternoon. Um. But, like, I think 438 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: that improving the past protection for Lamar was a big 439 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: part of the calculation this offseason in terms of improving 440 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: that pass game. Signing a wide receiver isn't the only 441 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: way to improve the passing game. It's what you're talking about, Cliff. 442 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: Better protection can certainly be a big part of that. Plus, 443 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: you know they got two new coaches, you know, they 444 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: got T. T. Martin and they got Keith Williams and 445 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: there to kind of take some strides there with developing 446 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: their young wide receivers. It doesn't necessarily have to be 447 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: a big time edition. I'd take one. I'd still take 448 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: one for the record, But I'm just saying like that 449 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: I think is a big part of it, because what 450 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: was the big difference. What was a big difference between 451 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen when Lamar led the league in touchdown passes 452 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 1: and won the m v P. What was the big difference? Well, 453 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: I think one time and time in the pocket. Certainly 454 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: he didn't have Marsa Riandato one there. Ye, I mean right, 455 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: Lamar had the same receivers. His top receivers were the 456 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: same guys Hollywood, Mark Andrews and Willie Sneed. There's the 457 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: top three pass catchers both years. The difference was he 458 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: didn't have Marshall Goada and Ronnie Stanley got injured halfway 459 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: through the year. That's a big difference, huge difference, I 460 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: mean huge holes yonda. You know, we all knew he's 461 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: he's really irreplaceable guy, but he had actually seen what happened, 462 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: and then, like you said, what Ronie getting injured only 463 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: magnified I think, you know, Orlando did a great job 464 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: staking over left at left taggle, but he can't play 465 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: two positions once. So I mean I think, yeah, the 466 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: Ravens are pretty open to me about how much they 467 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: they were gonna focus on trying to upgrade offensive line. 468 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: And this to me, Zeidler, you know, don't have to 469 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: be a sexy move to be an important move. And 470 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: I think this is one of these moves that when 471 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: the season next season ends, hopefully people are looking back 472 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: and saying, wow, you know that that was really important 473 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: to get a guy like that. And yeah, I'm not 474 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: trying to jink some either, but I love looking at 475 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: the guy's track record in the League of being durable class. 476 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: Campbell's the same way guys who are always available. Uh, 477 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: that shows that they know how to take care of 478 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: their bodies. And even though you know you need some 479 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: luck to do that, when you see a guy has 480 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: been the league eight, nine, ten years is really miss time. 481 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: To me, that's always a good sign. Absolutely. The other 482 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: part of the equation of him saying to help, which 483 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: you didn't mention, was hydration. You make sure you drink 484 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: your water. You know you gotta stay hydrated, and it's 485 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: a good mind or take your water break fans, Okay, 486 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: stay hydrated, stay royal Crown, Royal Canadian whiskey. Oh yeah, anyway, 487 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: great to talk to you all, Cliff, thanks for coming on. 488 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: Uh really was good meeting Kevin Zeidler as well. I 489 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: can't wait to see what he does on the field. 490 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: And like we said at the top, probably we'll be 491 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: back with another episode of the Lounge next week, but 492 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: no guarantees. All right, this might be it for next week. 493 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: We're hoping to get Tis Bowelser on the pod. Knock 494 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: on wood that we can make that happen, but we'll see. Anyway, 495 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening and we'll be back with you later,