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Speaker 1: Speaking of Biden, an accidental moment of candor here he

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Speaker 1: gets asked a question about our ongoing attacks on the

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Speaker 1: hoo Thies. Now remember the context here. The Huthis, who

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Speaker 1: basically are in charge of running Yemen. They're basically now

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Speaker 1: the official government in Yemen, have been blocking the Red

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Speaker 1: Sea in opposition to Israel's bombardment and what they and

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Speaker 1: I describe as a genocide of the Palestinians in the

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Speaker 1: Gaza Strip. So they've been doing that. The US decided

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Speaker 1: that we had to get involved here. We had to

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Speaker 1: protect commerce on the Red Sea, and so because our

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Speaker 1: initial response wasn't working, we decided to go that step

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Speaker 1: forward and stop start bombing hoo They facilities in Yemen

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Speaker 1: without congressional authorization. By the way, so Biden gets asked

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Speaker 1: about this, Hey, is this working. Let's take a listen

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Speaker 1: to what he has to say.

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Speaker 3: Well, when you stay working, are they stopping?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: Are they going to continue?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Are they stopping? The houthis no? Are they going to continue? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, this is.

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Speaker 1: Such an incredible admission. I guess he's like too elderly

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Speaker 1: he just tells the truth. But it's just remarkable how

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Speaker 1: US foreign policy, like, what is it even about. Clearly

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Speaker 1: he's admitting they don't even have an expectation that this

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Speaker 1: completely foolish and dangerous escalation that they've decided to engage

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Speaker 1: going to work. We know from the reporting not only

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Speaker 1: has it worked, it hasn't damaged the hoothi's offensive capability significantly.

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Speaker 1: It has not deterred them whatsoever. If anything, they have

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Speaker 1: scaled up the attacks since we started bombing them directly,

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Speaker 1: and you have more cargo ships than ever rerooting outside

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Speaker 1: of the Red Seat and avoiding this area completely because

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Speaker 1: now it's an active war zone. Gas prices immediately once

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Speaker 1: we announce this bombing campaign went up. We talked last

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Speaker 1: week about how Shell is saying, we are not bringing

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Speaker 1: our ships through here whatsoever. So it has been completely

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Speaker 1: wildly counterproductive. They know that he admits it, and yet

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Speaker 1: it's still yeah, but we're going to keep doing it,

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Speaker 1: this foolish, stupid, counterproductive policy for no reason whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: If I were to describe blob foreign policy, Blob, by

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Speaker 2: the way, is like the nickname for you know, Washington

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Speaker 2: example where it feels good, right, We're like, Wow, these

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Speaker 2: to them. I have nothing against that as long as

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Speaker 2: it works. But that's the issue. It's got to work.

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Speaker 2: And this is, it always feels good to drop a bomb,

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Speaker 2: we get to watch some cool videos online. But then

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Speaker 2: you're like, but now, what do the bombing actually stop?

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Speaker 2: And we's brought everybody the news that in general, you know,

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Speaker 2: the offensive capability had been only slightly reduced. It didn't

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Speaker 2: take a genius. I've said it from day one. I

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Speaker 2: was like, look, Saudi's carpet bomb these people for nine years,

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Speaker 2: real destruction to their capabilities. It also, though, exposes what

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Speaker 2: This was the perfect example where a Pentagon spokesperson was asked,

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Speaker 2: of yes, Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 6: Is it now fair to say that the US is

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Speaker 6: a war in Yemen? And secondly, there are some reports

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Speaker 2: Is that's something you're trying?

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Speaker 7: Thanks to Jerse In terms, I'll take the second the

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Speaker 7: but don't have anything to add in terms of your

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Speaker 7: first question. No, we don't seek war, we don't think

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Speaker 2: Just a follow up On's question. You said that we

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Speaker 1: But if if you know this Tit.

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Speaker 2: For tat bombing, we bombed them five times now, So

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Speaker 5: You just explain this a little a little bit more

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Speaker 5: to us, If this isn't war, what is war?

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Speaker 1: Sure, Laura, Sure, great question.

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Speaker 7: I just wasn't expecting it phrased exactly that way. Look,

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Speaker 7: we are, we do not seek war. We are we

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Speaker 7: But again, uh, what we are doing and the act

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Speaker 2: I love those grizzled Pentagon reporters be like, all right,

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Speaker 2: that is declared by Congress. And yet what are we

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Speaker 2: why previously an incidence where the who thies it approached

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Speaker 2: People were not upset about it from a congressional point

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Speaker 2: Somebody's shooting at you and you shoot back, that's a

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Speaker 2: different story. But when you're actively trying to remove their

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Speaker 2: think tomorrow a lot about the Israeli as the assessment,

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Speaker 2: you still can't kill everybody. Guess who found that out

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Speaker 2: in Japan? The United States in our war with them.

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Speaker 2: There's a reason Japan had to surrender and we've got

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Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you want to solve

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Speaker 2: I don't think this should be on the table, and

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Speaker 1: And it is so important anytime we talk about this

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Speaker 1: We don't have to occupy Yemen, we don't have to

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Speaker 1: And we know this because when there was a brief

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Speaker 1: It's really not about Israel. No, it is about Israel.

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Speaker 1: It is about what Israel is doing in Gaza right now.

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Speaker 1: And yet that is taking completely off the table, and

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Speaker 1: even going against the Rand Corporation is like, this is

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Speaker 1: a stupid policy and it's not going to work. Clearly,

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden and co. Know that, and yet they feel

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Speaker 1: put this up on the screen from the Washington Post.

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Speaker 1: Apparently the US is preparing for a sustained bombing campaign,

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Speaker 1: but definitely not a war, just a sustained bombing campaign.

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Speaker 1: I'll read you some of the details here that Biden

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Speaker 1: Ravaged country's fragile piece and pull Washington love that terminology

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Speaker 1: They say they don't expect the operation will stretch on

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Speaker 1: At the same time, Sager, they acknowledge they can identify

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Speaker 2: It just used to be. I mean, remember Chris, do

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Speaker 2: you remember when those soldiers died in I think they

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Speaker 2: To this day the entire thing has been covered up

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Speaker 2: by the pens.

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Speaker 1: Oh, they absolutely lied about what right.

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Speaker 2: They those guys were left out in the cold. There

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Speaker 2: were some crazy stuff that happened at command to people

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Speaker 2: should have been prosecuted for what happened to those men,

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Speaker 2: but that's a whole other story. Now the same level

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Speaker 2: in heavy swells away. And these their bodies have still

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Speaker 2: And the problem is is that this is only ramping up.

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Speaker 2: Let's put this up there on the screen. This is

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Speaker 2: a terrifying thing that happened just a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 2: So the main US base in Iraq was I love

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Speaker 2: not the headline. The headline is is that quote multiple

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Speaker 8: What can you tell us about potential injuries to American

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Speaker 1: So speaking of what the hell are we doing here,

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Speaker 3: The number of the types of two state solutions. There's

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Speaker 1: with netnya who as Prime minister. I mean there's a

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Speaker 1: lot to say about this. I mean, first of all,

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Speaker 1: I think that solution is unacceptable, you know, to give

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Speaker 1: them some sort of like pretend state that isn't real

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Speaker 1: Number one is unacceptable. Number two, even that Netna who

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Speaker 1: is not going to go for He is adamantly opposed

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Speaker 1: to any form of anything approaching a Palestinian state or

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Speaker 1: Palestinian sovereignty. So Biden is living in some sort of

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Speaker 1: fantasy delusion, even in spite of the fact that Beebe

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Speaker 1: continues to make it clear that there will never be

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Speaker 1: a Palestinian state so long as he is in power.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Christ, he made that very very clear

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Speaker 2: in his speech. It's amazing too, because this is the

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Speaker 2: perfect example of Hebrew versus English. In English, I don't

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Speaker 2: believe he's ever said it, but in Hebrew he's not

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Speaker 2: tweeted it. Now multiple times he's saying it to the public.

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Speaker 2: He seems to forget that some of us can actually

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Speaker 2: listen in on English language broadcast. That's translating his remarks live.

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Speaker 2: Here's what he had to say.

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Speaker 1: For thirty years.

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Speaker 9: I am very consistent, and I'm saying something very simple.

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Speaker 9: This conflict is not on the lack of a state

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Speaker 9: of Palestinian but the existence of a state, the Jewish state.

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Speaker 9: Every area that we evacuate we received terrible terror against that.

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Speaker 9: It happened in South Lebanon, in Gaza, and also to

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Speaker 9: there in Summarrea, which we did it. And therefore I

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Speaker 9: clarify that in other arrangement, any other arrangement in the future,

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Speaker 9: the State of Israel have to twelve on the entire

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Speaker 9: area from the river.

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Speaker 1: To the sea.

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Speaker 9: This is what happens when you have sovereigny. This truth,

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Speaker 9: I say to our American friends, and I also stopped

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Speaker 9: the attempt to imposes us a reality that will jeopardize us.

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Speaker 9: A prime minister in Israel has to be able to

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Speaker 9: say no, even to the best of friends, to say

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Speaker 9: no when you need to, and to say yes when

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Speaker 9: you can.

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Speaker 2: Christly, you were explaining to me that the river to

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Speaker 2: the sea is not the perfect translation, but it's this

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Speaker 2: still the inspiration if you want to just give that.

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Speaker 1: Because okay, so obviously the exact freezing from the river

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Speaker 1: to the sea has been framed as genocidal when it's

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Speaker 1: coming from college students on campus here, any sort of

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Speaker 1: Palestinian activist, et cetera. And then BB says it here

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Speaker 1: and you know, apparently that's fine. It's also in the

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Speaker 1: Lacud party charter, by the way, as it is in

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Speaker 1: the Hamas Charter from you know, when the when Hamas

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Speaker 1: was originally founded. Now the cope here was, oh well,

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Speaker 1: he didn't actually say from the river to the sea.

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Speaker 1: He said the entire area west of the river Jordan,

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Speaker 1: which is literally defining the exact same territory, but that

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Speaker 1: was the go Well, he didn't actually say from the

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Speaker 1: river to the sea. He said from the river to

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Speaker 1: the sea, but use like different technical words in Hebrew.

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Speaker 1: In any case, he's making as clear as he possibly can.

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Speaker 1: He literally says, for thirty years, I am very consistent,

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Speaker 1: and he's correct. He has never hidden his disdain and

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Speaker 1: disgust for the idea that there would ever be a

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Speaker 1: Palestinian state, and he's making it incredibly clear here that

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Speaker 1: the entire area west of the Jordan, or from the

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Speaker 1: river to the sea, however you want to put it,

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Speaker 1: he wants it to be under Israeli control. So makes

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Speaker 1: for very awkward situation for US officials who have gone

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Speaker 1: out of their way, you know, they friction censured. Were

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Speaker 1: Shida to leave from saying this when she's using it

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Speaker 1: to call for equal rights for everyone, whether they are Muslim, Arab, Jewish,

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Speaker 1: any nationality, any religion group in that area, She's censured

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Speaker 1: for it. And yet let's take a listen to this

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Speaker 1: is D four guys, John Kirby trying to clean this

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Speaker 1: one up based on Netanyahu's comments. Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 1: The President addressed Yak who's using the phrase from the

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Speaker 1: river to the sea in their conversation today. I know

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Speaker 1: the way house is previously, so that's a phrase is divisive, So.

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Speaker 10: I'm not aware that that specific phrase was discussed.

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Speaker 2: Using that phrase.

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Speaker 10: Look, there's a there's a connotation with that phrase. We

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Speaker 10: talked about this before. But when you know, when you

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Speaker 10: use the phrase river to the sea, it speaks basically

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Speaker 10: to the mantra of amas And in their manifesto where

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Speaker 10: they basically describe the geographic bounds of what they believe

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Speaker 10: to be palace signed and if you look at it

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Speaker 10: on the map, if you go look at the four

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Speaker 10: corners that they describe it, it's basically the state of Israel.

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Speaker 10: They just don't believe it should exist. So again, it's

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Speaker 10: not a phrase that we recommend using given because of

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Speaker 10: that context.

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Speaker 2: This wasn't a moss This was I understand.

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Speaker 10: I don't have anything more on that, and I certainly

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Speaker 10: don't have anything more in the conversation to read out

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Speaker 10: with respect to that.

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Speaker 1: But this wasn't a mass This was Metannahu. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, like just again, this man is not hiding

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Speaker 1: his aspiration, societyology, what his views are Before any of

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Speaker 1: this happened, he went to the UN with a map

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Speaker 1: of Israel, remember that from the river to the sea,

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Speaker 1: with no Palestinian you know, no West Bank, no Gaza Strip,

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Speaker 1: no Palestinians whatsoever. That was all fine and good, and

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Speaker 1: apparently Joe Biden is still operating under some delusion in

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Speaker 1: which bb Natanyahu could be some sort of partner for

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Speaker 1: an actual negotiated peace settlement. And just sober in case

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Speaker 1: it wasn't totally one hundred percent clear from the literally

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Speaker 1: thousands of times he said it before. Nan Yahoo also

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Speaker 1: tweeted out, let's put this up on the screen. This

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Speaker 1: is d three, guys. I will not compromise on full

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Speaker 1: Israeli security control over the entire area west of Jordan.

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Speaker 1: And again, to be totally clear, he says this is

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Speaker 1: contrary to a Palestinian state. So he's making it as

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Speaker 1: plain as he possibly can. And yet Joe Biden still

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Speaker 1: still not getting the message here somehow.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean at a certain point, it's like, look, guys,

545
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Speaker 2: like what are we doing here? And same thing. I

546
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Speaker 2: have a very simple proposition, which is to treat Israel

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Speaker 2: like you treat every other nation. If you treat I mean,

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Speaker 2: but the problem is that this is America. This is

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Speaker 2: apparently the way that we treat our so called allies.

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Speaker 2: We're like, hey, Ukraine, we're going to give you all

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Speaker 2: these weapons, but just don't use it to attack Russia.

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Speaker 2: And they're like, okay, yeah, sure, we'll just use it

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Speaker 2: to attack Russia. And we're like, oh, well, you probably

554
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Speaker 2: shouldn't do that. But here's a couple more and now

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Speaker 2: we do the same thing here. You know, the EU

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Speaker 2: has a much more sensible policy. If we can put

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Speaker 2: the tear sheet up there, please d five. You know,

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Speaker 2: I was reading this just yesterday. And look in the EU,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Germany literally has laws on the books where

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Speaker 2: they'll imprison you, you know, if you protest for Palestine. And

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Speaker 2: yet for them, they're like, book, we need to quote

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Speaker 2: seek consequences for Israel over opposition to Palestinian statehood. They

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Speaker 2: have urged Member states now to impose basically sanctions from

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Speaker 2: Brussels and from all member states if they continue to

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Speaker 2: oppose Palestinian statehood. I find this to be an eminently

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Speaker 2: reasonable policy, which is that, look, if you are going

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Speaker 2: to go against the wishes of what we believe is

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Speaker 2: a sustainable peace and or a sustainable solution, then we

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Speaker 2: are not going to support you monetarily. It's very simple.

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Speaker 2: That's what you usually would do in the past. This

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Speaker 2: is also the fanatical way that we talk about. This

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Speaker 2: is deeply contrary to historical American foreign policy towards Israel.

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Speaker 2: Henry Kissinger often would lecture Goldemeyer, who was a hell

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Speaker 2: of a lot more liberal than Netanyahu. George W. Bush

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Speaker 2: would often lecture Nettan Yahoo and the Israeli government. And

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Speaker 2: in fact, you can go back and pull that transcript

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Speaker 2: I've read it here in the past a couple of

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Speaker 2: years ago of our a flight Sure who is like,

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Speaker 2: they're literally justify the war in Iraq, and he said,

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Speaker 2: we don't. Can we condemn Israel attacking apartment buildings in Goz?

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Speaker 2: Like that's how much the somehow, that is how much

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Speaker 2: the rhetoric and the policy has changed here. I don't

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Speaker 2: really know what happened, to be honest, it seems that

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Speaker 2: we've somehow gone in the opposite direction, which is kind

585
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Speaker 2: of crazy considering what the overall situation is. But look,

586
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Speaker 2: they've humiliated us. There's just no question they've humiliated President

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Speaker 2: Biden the Ukrainians did too. They probably learned from Zelenski.

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Speaker 2: They're like, well, if he can do it, you know,

589
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Speaker 2: what are we going to do? And they've got our

590
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Speaker 2: political system basically rigged. So, you know, I see these

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Speaker 2: Republicans all the time. We're attacking Biden for not being

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Speaker 2: pro Israel enough. I'm like, what do you what do

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Speaker 2: you want? You know, it's like I almost said the

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Speaker 2: F word, but like, what else could you possibly want?

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Speaker 2: They're getting their weapons. I mean, Biden even talked to

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Speaker 2: them for twenty days, which, in my opinion is nuts.

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Speaker 2: How do you go twenty some days without talking to

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Speaker 2: the person who is actively engaged in this war and

599
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Speaker 2: is escalating and doing things they're getting us involved in

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Speaker 2: situation at very least you would expect some sort of

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Speaker 2: bilateral communication. Then the question is like, are they the

602
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Speaker 2: ones that snubbed us? And then he goes out and

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Speaker 2: you know, gives a speech saying sometimes you have to

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Speaker 2: tell your American friends, no, where's the requisite policy from

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Speaker 2: our president? Why doesn't he give a speech and be like, listen,

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Speaker 2: I support the state of Israel. As we often understand,

607
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Speaker 2: the state is different than the politician him and I

608
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Speaker 2: have differences, and as long as he's going to have

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Speaker 2: this policy, then the policy of the United States is

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Speaker 2: going to be support what we believe is in the

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Speaker 2: long term interest of Israeli national security, which is a

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Speaker 2: two state solution. And if you have a government that's

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Speaker 2: in place that believes that, then I'm sorry. That is

614
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Speaker 2: where counter odds here. That doesn't mean I have anything

615
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Speaker 2: against you. I'm not anti Semitic. We have a disagreement.

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Speaker 2: What's wrong with that? Yeah, you know we can't talk

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Speaker 2: that way yet.

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Speaker 1: You know it, sccer. It is interesting to think about

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Speaker 1: how we've gotten to this place because you tell me

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Speaker 1: if you think that I'm wrong with this. But Trump

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Speaker 1: and then Biden have been the two most pro Israel.

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Speaker 1: Total unconditional support for whatever they want, whatever they want

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Speaker 1: to do, no criticism, We ship the weapons, We don't

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Speaker 1: say a word in grievance that we've ever had. I mean,

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Speaker 1: thinking back.

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Speaker 2: Probably definitely trum Biden to Yeah, I'll say Biden to

627
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Speaker 2: Obama actually was extremely pro Israel until he no longer

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Speaker 2: was campaigning for office.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember this in two thousand

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Speaker 2: and sixteen. I believe it was actually during the campaign,

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Speaker 2: he allowed some un resolution to go through. That's right,

633
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Speaker 2: people freaked out, But that was, I mean, frankly, the

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Speaker 2: only real counter Israel thing that he ever did. There

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Speaker 2: there was no political consequences.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I'm not saying that any of the

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Speaker 1: other presidents were good on the issue, but Biden and

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Speaker 1: Trump have taken it to a whole other level. And

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Speaker 1: it is interesting because it comes at a time when

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Speaker 1: the American public has moved in the opposite direction. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot more skepticism of Israel, especially in the Democratic base,

642
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Speaker 1: but also in there's some rising numbers among independence and

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Speaker 1: a little bit among Republicans as well. For the first time,

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Speaker 1: you have some actual dissident voices in Congress. Not a

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Speaker 1: lot of them, because you know, it's still very difficult

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Speaker 1: to win a campaign if you're going to have courage

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Speaker 1: on this issue, but there are actually a few dissonant

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Speaker 1: voices who have from the beginning and calling for a

649
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Speaker 1: ceasefire and been taking absolute hell for it too. So

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Speaker 1: it is a strange situation where you know, you end

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Speaker 1: up with this president who is absolutely lockstep at a

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Speaker 1: time when the US public is really reassessing what this

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Speaker 1: relationship is why we're supporting it, why our tax dollars

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Speaker 1: are going to fund these absolute horrors and atrocities that

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Speaker 1: are unfolding before our eyes.

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Speaker 2: I could see it going both ways. I could see,

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Speaker 2: you know, things wrapping up and then maybe everybody's moves

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Speaker 2: on or whatever. But I mean, I've said it before.

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Speaker 2: I mean I think the biggest mistake that BB ever

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Speaker 2: made was coming here and criticizing Obama to his face

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Speaker 2: in his own country, because it's just like, who do

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Speaker 2: you think you are?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 2: You think the American President's going to go to the

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Speaker 2: Canessa and speak against you? By the way, we should

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Speaker 2: now at this point after you dare to do that

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Speaker 2: in our country. We always have an Israel exception, it

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Speaker 2: seems to be.

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 2: I do think that in the long run, they definitely

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Speaker 2: have lost it, you know, in general, the Democratic Party. Look,

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Speaker 2: you can ignore it for as long as you want,

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Speaker 2: but if you've got a small d democratic consensus, I

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Speaker 2: don't think things have reached the breaking point quote unquote yet.

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Speaker 2: It will come more likely if there is kinetic action

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Speaker 2: involving US troops, because that's when the debate and the

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Speaker 2: fire really breaks in general, is if US military lives

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Speaker 2: are actually, you know, are really being spent, and we're

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Speaker 2: getting involved, and especially in a bigger war, but even

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Speaker 2: a minor one, I could see things changing. Yeah. Look,

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Speaker 2: on the domestic side.

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Speaker 1: You bring up an important thing with the Iranian nuclear deal,

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Speaker 1: because Israel did not want that deal to be signed,

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Speaker 1: and so that is another really significant instance where Obama

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Speaker 1: went against Israel in a way that Joe Biden certainly

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have. And there's these stories too about Biden like

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Speaker 1: undermining Obama's policy Visa VI Israel and sucking up to

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Speaker 1: Netna and telling him like, I'm the only friend you've

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Speaker 1: really got here you can rely on me. Basically I'm paraphrasing,

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Speaker 1: but that was effectively what he was saying to him.

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Speaker 1: And you know, so listen, in a lot of areas

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Speaker 1: up till now, I would have said Biden's certainly his

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Speaker 1: domestic policy and really probably his foreign policy was better

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Speaker 1: than obamais I and getting a sound of Afghanistan rolling

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Speaker 1: back the drone ward, those were all positive steps in

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Speaker 1: the right direction. Just to completely squander it with these

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Speaker 1: absolute horrors that we are backing one hundred percent and

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Speaker 1: creating tremendous risk for our service members for global stability,

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Speaker 1: just absolute insanity. And just last thing here as a reminder,

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Speaker 1: because I never want to lose sight of what continues

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Speaker 1: to unfold on the ground in Gaza. An American doctor

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Speaker 1: who went and worked in al Axa Hospital in Gaza

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Speaker 1: came back and was interviewed by PBS News Hour about

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Speaker 1: what that experience was like. Just take a listen to

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Speaker 1: what she has to say.

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Speaker 5: There is no death with dignity when you're lying on

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Speaker 5: the ground of an emergency room in Gaza. In my

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Speaker 5: first three hours of working at Alexa Hospital, I treated

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Speaker 5: a one year old boy with a bloody diaper and

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Speaker 5: his right arm and right leg had been blown off.

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Speaker 4: There was no leg below the diaper. He was bleeding

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Speaker 4: into his chest. I treated him on the ground because

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Speaker 4: there were no stretchers and no beds available, and when

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Speaker 4: the orthopedic surgeon came to wrap his stumps up to

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Speaker 4: stop the bleeding. I would have imagined in the US

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Speaker 4: this would have been a straightforward case that went immediately

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Speaker 4: to the operating room because of the severity as a

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Speaker 4: stat case, and instead, the impossible choices inflicted on the

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Speaker 4: doctors of Gaza have made it such that he wasn't

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Speaker 4: the emergency of the day. There was a waiting list,

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Speaker 4: and the operating room was already full with other more

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Speaker 4: pressing cases. And so I asked myself, what's more pressing

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Speaker 4: than a one year old without an arm, a leg,

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Speaker 4: and who's bleeding into his chest and choking on his blood.

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Speaker 4: And that will tell you a little bit about the

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Speaker 4: scale of devastation that the people of Gaza are suffering.

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Speaker 1: Ess absolutely unimaginable. I mean, this woman is a hero

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Speaker 1: for going in there and doing everything that she can,

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Speaker 1: but I literally cannot imagine. She says, what's more pressing

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Speaker 1: than a one year old without an arm and a leg,

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Speaker 1: who's bleeding into his chest and choking on his blood,

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Speaker 1: And he's not even the top priority at that moment.

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Speaker 1: And remember this is happening to ten kids are losing

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Speaker 1: their legs every single day. We're talking cesareans with no anesthetic,

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Speaker 1: amputations with no anesthetic, hospitals consistently under bombardment. You actually

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Speaker 1: had Jordan just complaining to Israel Field hospital that they

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Speaker 1: set up was coming under attack. The level of devastation,

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Speaker 1: the level of generational trauma. Imagine what these kids are

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Speaker 1: going to deal with for their whole lives. The ones

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Speaker 1: who are lucky enough to survive all of this, the

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Speaker 1: horror is indescribable.

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Speaker 4: WoT you put take,