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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it is me Rosie O'donald Starr the Flintstones.

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Speaker 1: How are you? You made it here to onward my podcast?

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Speaker 1: How's it going by you in your life? Things good?

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Speaker 1: We're at a really exciting time in the fifth grade,

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Speaker 1: month two. My kid is having some adjustment issues in

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Speaker 1: the classroom, but you know, we're working with the school.

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Speaker 1: I really really love the school that they're attending and

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Speaker 1: the help that you get with your kid. They're doing good,

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Speaker 1: They're doing good. Today is a big day for both

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Speaker 1: Dakota and I. We're today getting to meet an actual

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Speaker 1: guide dog for an autistic child, Guide Dogs of America,

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Speaker 1: which is a wonderful and free organization. The adoption process

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Speaker 1: is pretty intense, the application process to get the dog,

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Speaker 1: and of course they have so many more applications than dogs,

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Speaker 1: but one of the final stages of your application is

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Speaker 1: they bring the guide dog to your house and see

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Speaker 1: how your child does with the concept in general. So

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Speaker 1: that's today and that should be very exciting and the

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Speaker 1: guide dog from America. People were asking me if there

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Speaker 1: was a preference for color of the dog, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, I don't think so, you know, And I

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Speaker 1: asked Dakota when I got home, and they said they'll

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Speaker 1: know the right one for me. I don't care if

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Speaker 1: it's brown or black or beige. After you get approved,

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Speaker 1: you have to go to a ten day session learning

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Speaker 1: all the commands. And then when that's done. As soon

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Speaker 1: as that's done, I'm going to jump in the car

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Speaker 1: and pick up some friends and we're going to see Pink. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you know, Pink man. Let's get this party started. She

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Speaker 1: was so young. She was on my TV show. You know,

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Speaker 1: I used to have a TV show on television, And

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Speaker 1: Dakota said to me one day, was it back in

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Speaker 1: black and white? No, but it kind of feels like it.

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Speaker 1: But she was on Pink and she was only twenty two,

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Speaker 1: and she was on a bunch of times. And I

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Speaker 1: just think she's so authentic, she's so artistic, she's so beautiful.

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Speaker 1: She's such a great family person, and I admire her

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Speaker 1: and how she runs her life and the arc that

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Speaker 1: she makes and she's just fantastic. So I'm going to

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Speaker 1: report back on Pink next week. And what else can

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Speaker 1: we say? You know, Donald Trump broke the gag order

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Speaker 1: with a racist whiney v The Wow Wow Wa posts

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Speaker 1: on his truth social which is not truthful at all.

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Speaker 1: How is he allowed to break the law? How is

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Speaker 1: he allowed to break the gag order and not go

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Speaker 1: right directly to jail? Do not pass, go, do not

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Speaker 1: collect two hundred dollars. That's what I'd like to know.

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Speaker 1: We're supposed to show that no one is above the law,

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Speaker 1: and that includes him. So he's broken the gag order

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Speaker 1: many times. Let's put him in jail. That's what I think.

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Speaker 1: Maybe controversial, but that's what I feel honestly, that we

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Speaker 1: have to show the consequences of his action to everyone

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Speaker 1: in the nation so the nation can heal and understand

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Speaker 1: what we have been dealing with for the last eight years.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we have a wonderful, wonderful show today. Amy

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Speaker 1: Nelson is my guest, and you probably don't know who

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Speaker 1: she is. Well, she's a wonderful woman on TikTok and

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Speaker 1: I've been following her for a while now, over a year,

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Speaker 1: maybe almost two years. She is here to tell you

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Speaker 1: what happened to her family to avoid losing money from

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Speaker 1: breaking a contract. Amazon not only made up unfounded charges

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Speaker 1: against Amy's husband, but Amazon got the Department of Justice

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Speaker 1: and the FBI involved in this matter, and you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna believe what happened to Amy and her family, and

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Speaker 1: it is still happening. It's still happening. She can explain

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Speaker 1: what happened better than I can. So take a listen

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Speaker 1: to me having a conversation with my friend and kick

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Speaker 1: ass woman, Amy Nelson. Hey, everybody, please welcome my guest today,

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Speaker 1: Amy Nelson. Amy. I can't even tell you how much

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Speaker 1: I admire you.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, Rosie. That means a lot.

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Speaker 1: Now, listen, I met you on TikTok. I was going

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Speaker 1: through and I was hearing the story about your family

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Speaker 1: and the pictures, and every day there were, you know,

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Speaker 1: such specific detailed versions of what happened to you, like

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Speaker 1: so that it was like a movie coming to life

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Speaker 1: the part where you know, they get to sue Amazon.

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Speaker 2: I would like to fix that part too, right.

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Speaker 1: Well, tell, let's start at the very beginning. Your husband

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Speaker 1: worked for Amazon, or he worked for somebody who had

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Speaker 1: a contract with Amazon. Explain exactly what he did.

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Speaker 3: So, my husband worked at Amazon Web Services, which is

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Speaker 3: part of Amazon and Amazon Web services build data centers,

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Speaker 3: over the world. And my husband worked there for eight years,

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Speaker 3: had really an incredible experience in a pressure cooker. But

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Speaker 3: helped Amazon buy land to build data centers or lease

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Speaker 3: data centers. And then he left in twenty nineteen and

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Speaker 3: went out on his own. He had set up the

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Speaker 3: by Amazon's employment contract.

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Speaker 2: And when he left, he started working with that company.

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Speaker 3: And about ten months after he left, the FBI and

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Speaker 3: knocked on our door at six forty five in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Now before that point was he aware in any capacity

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Speaker 1: that they were even after him, or that they thought

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Speaker 1: his new job. Yeah, And knock, knock, knock, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He was off on his new job.

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Speaker 3: And you know, my husband had hired a lot lawyer

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Speaker 3: And he was working with his lawyer all the time,

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Speaker 3: and so he really had no idea that this could happen.

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Speaker 3: And in fact, the day that the FBI showed up

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Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on, but I'm more than

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Speaker 3: happy to talk to you. And the lawyers told my

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Speaker 3: husband's lawyer, Amazon said, we'll only talk to you if

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Speaker 3: you're pleading guilty to.

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Speaker 2: A federal crime. And that was just mind blowing.

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Speaker 1: And what was the crime that they accused him of?

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Speaker 3: So I always want to save this upfront, but my

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Speaker 3: you hear this wild story, just keep in mind that

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Speaker 3: he's never been charged with any crime. But Amazon accused

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Speaker 3: him of a crime called private sector honest services fraud,

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Speaker 3: which means a private employee is alleged to have deprived

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Speaker 3: his private employer of his quote honest services.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so so in common speak, that means they're saying

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Speaker 3: They Amazon said that my husband accepted kickbacks during and

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Speaker 3: after his time at Amazon in order to steer real

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Speaker 3: estate transactions to certain real estate developers.

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Speaker 1: And this is a completely fabricated charge.

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Speaker 2: Completely.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how did the FBI get involved in this? Because

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Speaker 1: knowing your story and hearing how all of this transpired

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Speaker 1: as though Amazon uses the DOJ as their personal law firm.

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Speaker 3: It really feels that way. So I'll tell you how

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Speaker 3: it happened. And it's wild because we didn't know any

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Speaker 3: that's one of the scariest things. I think a lot

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Speaker 3: why it's happening, and that was certainly our situation. We

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Speaker 3: now know, and we only know this because Amazon leader

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Speaker 3: hundred times lobbying for the Department of Justice to charge

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Speaker 3: my husband with a crime. Amazon had broken a contract

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Speaker 3: with a real estate developer. They had done that with

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Speaker 3: their business partner named IPI, and the terms of the

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Speaker 3: developer named Brian Watson plead guilty or be convicted of

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Speaker 3: to owe Brian Watson hundreds of millions of dollars. And

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Speaker 3: so they broke the contract and the very next day

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you've three kids, right, four three girls or

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Speaker 1: four girls, but when they knocked on you door, you

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Speaker 1: had just had a baby, or it was similar. It

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my baby, Holland was eight months old when they

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Speaker 2: I had a bunch of kids in four and a

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Speaker 1: And not only did they come to your house, they

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Speaker 1: seized all of your money.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is something else I had no idea

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Speaker 2: There is something in America.

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Speaker 3: Called civil forfeiture, and through civil forfeiture, federal, state, and

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Speaker 3: local governments can seize the assets of any American based

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Speaker 3: on the suspicion of a crime. They don't have to

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Speaker 3: right because my husband was never charged with any crime.

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Speaker 3: But despite that, in May of twenty twenty, so, in

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Speaker 3: And I was like, what, because I had money in

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Speaker 3: my Wells Fargo account. You know, I was running my startup,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a line that said that the Federal

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Speaker 3: Bureau of Investigation had taken the money out of my

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Speaker 3: had seized all of the money my husband had paid

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Speaker 3: his attorneys as well from the attorney's bank accounts.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more from Amy Nelson. How

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Speaker 1: is this legal? Amy Nelson?

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Speaker 3: So, civil forfeiture actually goes back to the very beginning

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Speaker 3: of America. They start because of pirates, like ships would

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Speaker 3: and so we would go like seize the ships on

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Speaker 3: used in America today for drug crimes, so it's really abusive.

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Speaker 3: Like even if, like if you're pulled over and they

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Speaker 3: we're taking the whole car because the car is now

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Speaker 3: a crime. And it's used to really pressure people and

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Speaker 3: it's a really horrifying process. And one of the most

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Speaker 3: horrifying parts about it is like in our situation, because

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Speaker 3: they never charged my husband with a crime, the government

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Speaker 3: held our money for twenty two months. There was literally

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Speaker 1: Did they tell you why they gave it back.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I assume they gave it back because they

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Speaker 2: And listen, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I was deeply.

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Speaker 1: Which is so obvious with your story. Yeah, it's almost

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Speaker 1: Right, it's scary. It's so scary to think that this

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Speaker 1: And I see again in the movie version, which I

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Speaker 3: I think there's like a lot of things here. I

441
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Speaker 3: think that Amazon, do you play poker? Yes, okay, so

442
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 3: you know the big stack bully when you get so

443
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 3: many chips, it's just yes, or it doesn't matter, you're

444
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 3: going to win.

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Speaker 2: You can bully write like. I think that Amazon thinks

446
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Speaker 2: of itself like that.

447
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Speaker 3: Like if you look at what's happening right now with

448
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 3: the Federal Trade Commission and they're going to file an

449
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 3: anti trust lawsuit against Amazon. When companies are facing anti

450
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 3: trust lawsuits, they get to meet with the DOJ and

451
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 3: they can make some concessions. Right, they can be like, well, DJ,

452
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 3: you know, or FTC, like we'll do X, Y or z.

453
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 3: In this situation, Amazon has offered zero concessions. I think

454
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 3: they're like, screw it, we can do what we want Amazon, Right,

455
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 3: and I feel like they think that every step of

456
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Speaker 3: the way. And you know, we're not the only family.

457
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 3: That Amazon has done this too, and they've gone after

458
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Speaker 3: seller consultants through the Department of Justice with criminal charges.

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Speaker 3: They've gone after vendors through the Department of Justice of

460
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 3: criminal charges. All are evolving around these allegations that people

461
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Speaker 3: are violating internal Amazon policy and so I feel like

462
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 3: they just think they can do this. And I think

463
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 3: right now they're so far into this that like what

464
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Speaker 3: are they going to do? And the real estate developer

465
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Speaker 3: Brian Watson, you know, because of the allegations they made

466
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Speaker 3: and what they've done in the courts, his company, which

467
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 3: had one point seven billion in assets under control, has

468
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 3: been destroyed one point seven billion dollars. So like what happens?

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Speaker 3: Like what is their endgame? I think about it all

470
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Speaker 3: the time, like what are they doing?

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Speaker 1: Like what is you know, what are they doing? And

472
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Speaker 1: they're just trying to continue business as usual? Is this

473
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Speaker 1: something that they do so often that they don't even

474
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Speaker 1: think of it anymore as as criminal? Have they become

475
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 1: so empowered by, you know, a government that doesn't tax

476
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: them enough and you know, I don't know, it seems

477
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Speaker 1: to me that it's the most absurd story you've ever heard,

478
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: and how could they get away with it?

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00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think, like, I mean, I also think

480
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,479
Speaker 3: they're really angry at me, Like they've sent me letters

481
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 3: telling me to like take down my TikTok or else

482
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 3: to some kind of like guys like you pulled the

483
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 3: nuclear option really early and sent the FBI to my

484
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 3: house with guns.

485
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Speaker 2: Like a letter doesn't scare me at this point.

486
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 3: Cor this in February telling me to take down my

487
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 3: TikTok or else and then I wrote back like no,

488
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 3: and then averywhere.

489
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Speaker 1: Else what I'm not going to get the prime delivery special?

490
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Speaker 3: But I think that like they just they you know,

491
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Speaker 3: like if you go back to the beginning of this,

492
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Speaker 3: I didn't know this, but I'd like taken a deep

493
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 3: dive into this. Ninety eight point two percent of Americans

494
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Speaker 3: who are accused of a federal crime plead guilty.

495
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Speaker 2: They played the odds.

496
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Speaker 1: Ninety eight point two percent.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, Rosie, because if you're accused of tedral crime,

498
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 3: you have to have millions of dollars to fight it.

499
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just a reality, Like you have to

500
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 3: have millions of dollars to survive a criminal trial, Like,

501
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 3: we don't have a fair jury system in America. We

502
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 3: have like a plea bargaining system. Like it's kind of

503
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 3: a farce. The whole thing doesn't make sense. So you

504
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 3: have to have millions of dollars. And there's something called

505
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Speaker 3: a trial penalty where if you don't plead and you

506
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 3: take a case to trial, they can put you in

507
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 3: prison for much longer. They can penalize you for exercising

508
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Speaker 3: your right to a jury trial.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, wow, So what is what is your end game?

510
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Speaker 1: I would love to hear that you're going to make

511
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Speaker 1: this into a podcast on its own, just this topic,

512
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: because it's it's so compelling amy and it's so outlandishly

513
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 1: overreaching from Amazon and into the DOJ and the FBI.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy making.

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Speaker 3: It is crazy making, And there will be storytelling about

516
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 3: this with some projects that I'm working on, and I

517
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 3: think it's really important to tell the story for a

518
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 3: bunch of different reasons. For me personally, you know, as

519
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 3: somebody who's always worked in politics, like I can't walk

520
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 3: away from this without trying to change something so it

521
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 3: doesn't happen to other people.

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Speaker 2: And for me, the two.

523
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 3: Pieces of that are civil forfeiture, I mean just has

524
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 3: to go. We should not be able to take money

525
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 3: on the suspicion of a crime. It particularly impacts folks

526
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 3: of color and immigrants, not not white people like me.

527
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 3: It disproportionately impacts people who don't look like me. And

528
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 3: it's devastating. And you know, if your money, your home

529
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 3: is taken by civil forfeiture, you have to pay lawyers

530
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 3: to fight to get it back. It's a ridiculous system.

531
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 3: We don't need it. Like back in the time of pirates, fine,

532
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 3: the ship went away, it was hard to find. But

533
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 3: like we live in an age where you can find

534
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 3: anybody anywhere. You know how to get them, like, you

535
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 3: don't need to take their money before you prove a crime.

536
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: And then second, I really think that you know, in

537
00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 3: my husband's situation, Amazon hired former federal prosecutors from the

538
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Speaker 3: Eastern District of Virginia to go and lobby their former

539
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 3: colleagues who are still prosecutors in the Eastern District of Virginia.

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Speaker 2: And that has got to stop. That is not open.

541
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 3: And Amazon has hired hundreds of former prosecutors, so they

542
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 3: have this in everywhere across the country and like, I

543
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 3: don't have that in so they're gonna you know, they're

544
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 3: listening to Amazon. Like my husband didn't ever even get

545
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 3: the chance to talk to the prosecutors.

546
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Speaker 2: They just listened to Amazon and believe them.

547
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, So the next steps for your family, the

548
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: next steps you're kind of waiting in at their mercy.

549
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: Amazon lost against my husband in federal court, and so

550
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Speaker 3: Amazon is now appealing that. So we have to go

551
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 3: through that whole process where they appeal what they lost,

552
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: which means Amazon will spend many more millions of dollars

553
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 3: to do that. I think that Amazon has spent over

554
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 3: fifty million dollars on lawyers, and that's holy shit. And

555
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 3: like the weird thing about it is, this is about

556
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 3: something that a federal judge said, Amazon hasn't proven a

557
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 3: dollar of damages about, Like Amazon, this is all about

558
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 3: some real estate. Amazon kept all the real estate. They're

559
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 3: selling cloud computing from it and making billions of dollars.

560
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: So like they've benefited from what they say was a crime.

561
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 3: So it's super bizarre what they're doing. But so we

562
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Speaker 3: wait for the appeal and then you know, my husband

563
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: has already sued Amazon in Washington State and one part

564
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 3: of it, and I'm sure he'll continue that lawsuit once

565
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 3: Amazon's appeal is over. You know, I think I've been

566
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 3: very much injured, and so I have my four daughters,

567
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Speaker 3: and I really want my daughters to have a voice

568
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: in this.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you know, so how do they talk about it?

570
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 3: So it's you know, it's interesting. They were so young

571
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 3: when it started. And my littlest is just four now,

572
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: but this has been her whole life. But she doesn't

573
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 3: have any comprehension of it yet that I know. But

574
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: my oldest daughter, Sloan is nine now, and she knows enough.

575
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 3: And one day she asked me. She said, Mom, I

576
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: is said, okay to hate someone. I said, why are

577
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 3: you asking that, Sloan? She was, I think I hate

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00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: Jeff Bezos And I said, you know, hates a really

579
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: strong word, but i'd like to talk.

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Speaker 1: About Wow, Mom, that took a lot of restraint. I

581
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 1: would have said, yes him, we can hate. That's what

582
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: I totally would have said.

583
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Speaker 3: But I said, you know, I think I can understand

584
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 3: why you would feel that way. I said, I hate him.

585
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you, but I'd like to talk

586
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 3: about why you feel that way, and we talked about it,

587
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 3: and you know, she knows that Jeff Bezos had a

588
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 3: company that was trying to put her daddy in jail,

589
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 3: and that's a bit, that's a heavy thing for a

590
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Speaker 3: nine year.

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Speaker 1: Old totally, and imagine how terrified she is of the

592
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Speaker 1: possibility that that's going to happen. Imagine what it does

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00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: to the safety and psyche of your home when armed

594
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: guards come in, you know, swat team. What does that

595
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: do to a baby's sense of life and safety?

596
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Speaker 3: I mean, I hope they feel as safe as they can,

597
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 3: because all I've ever told them when we talk about

598
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 3: it is like mommy and Daddy will fight as hard

599
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 3: as they can and as long as they can to

600
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 3: keep you safe because because we know the truth, and

601
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 3: it's really important to fight for the truth. And you know,

602
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 3: their grandparents believe that we all like that is this

603
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 3: is how I was raised, It's how they'll be raised.

604
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: And you know it's important for them to.

605
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 3: See it, but it is true, like when you lose

606
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 3: that sense of safety, it is incredibly, incredibly hard. And

607
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 3: one thing that was really important to me in fighting back.

608
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 3: And I hope my girls see this because you know,

609
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: their names got dragged into this. My name got dragged

610
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,479
Speaker 3: in my husband's name, right like Amazon named all these people.

611
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 3: And what Amazon wanted to do is say, but we're

612
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 3: just Amazon. But Amazon technically has done nothing to me.

613
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: And I've tried to explain that to my daughters. Amazon

614
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 3: didn't do anything to you. Amazon is a logo. People

615
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 3: did this to you. Human beings with names. And it's

616
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 3: not just Jeff Bezos. It's the current CEO, Andy Jassey,

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Speaker 3: It's the general counsel David Sapolski, it's the lawyers Matt

618
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 3: jadin U see Omar. You know, they have names, and

619
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,239
Speaker 3: these names are in public quort documents that Amazon has

620
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 3: put into the world, and those people are responsible. Those

621
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 3: people have families. Have they ever thought about what it's

622
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 3: like for us to be asked? Have they ever thought

623
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 3: about my daughters and whether they can sleep at night?

624
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: I would say no. I would say no. I think

625
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: you know, when a company or a person becomes a

626
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: multi billionaire, their soul leaves their body. It's almost as

627
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: though if you measure in money for long enough, you

628
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: will be swallowed by it whole. You know it. It

629
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: amazes me the power that these billionaires have, and it's

630
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: very depressing.

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Speaker 3: It's so depressing, and then like you see these like

632
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 3: people profiles where it's like Lauren Sanchez steps out in

633
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 3: a glowing literary dress with her ten billion carrot engagement ring,

634
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 3: and you're like, why is that news?

635
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: Right?

636
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: Why?

637
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: Why are we Why are we so obsessed with this?

638
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: Right?

639
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 3: Because the obsession with it gives it the power in

640
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: the fuel. And I can assure you that the billionaires, yeah,

641
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 3: don't care about us.

642
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: So it's just it's a weird. It's a weird.

643
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: I think that they just are so removed from humanity.

644
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: They're so removed, you know, and people will say this

645
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: about me, I'm a millionaire, right, am I removed from humanity?

646
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: I guess in some ways I definitely am.

647
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 3: But I think that like it is this thing too,

648
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 3: right that you're still here sharing stories like you did

649
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 3: on the show, right, And that's giving voice to people,

650
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 3: And that's something that I think it could. It has

651
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 3: to prevent you from being completely disconnected because you're you're listening,

652
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 3: and to your point, like with billionaires, they just don't listen,

653
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 3: they're not you know, they're kind of like I think

654
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 3: they can ice themselves up because no one wants to

655
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 3: have set Jeff Bezos that makes a lot of money

656
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 3: off of him.

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Speaker 2: No one's going to sit down and tell him the truth,

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Speaker 2: right like that.

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Speaker 3: I know, I've I've worked, I've been around other billionaires,

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Speaker 3: and like, I think it's a similar thing, right that,

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Speaker 3: Like people are just like a pee, like the court

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Speaker 3: gesters in a way like appease the guy. It's always

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Speaker 3: I've always been men in that capacity, like appease the guy, right,

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Speaker 3: Like what does he need? What will make him happy?

665
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Speaker 3: How do we give him what he wants? Because then

666
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Speaker 3: we'll get we want right and so.

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Speaker 1: Right right and what you know, and when everyone starts

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Speaker 1: doing that around you, even though you don't think they are,

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Speaker 1: they are, you know they are. But but if that

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Speaker 1: becomes the way people interact with you, you start to feel

671
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Speaker 1: kind of a lofty disconnection. I'd imagine, right, and uh

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Speaker 1: an ability to sort of think only of yourself, you know, yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean I think that would be exactly where you'd end up.

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Speaker 3: I as think it's funny and like it's particularly American.

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Speaker 3: We always talk about like Russian oligarchs and an oligarch. Right,

676
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Speaker 3: it is like I'm a person of extreme wealth who's

677
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Speaker 3: very close to the government. And I'm like, guys, like

678
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Speaker 3: we might have that same issue here in America.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: We don't ever want to admit that Elon Musk is

681
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Speaker 3: a ton of ties to the American governments all like Starlink,

682
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Speaker 3: like he like has some sway over what's happening in

683
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Speaker 3: Ukraine with his satellites, Like that is wild. He is

684
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Speaker 3: a man, right, He's a man who can sway geopolitical issues.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't even make any.

686
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Speaker 1: Sense, No, it really doesn't.

687
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Speaker 3: It's so easy to be such a hero when you

688
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: have that much money, and yet none of them are

689
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Speaker 3: and that is so weird, and we don't demand it.

690
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Speaker 2: We don't ask that were like, let.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean, can you can you think of one

692
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Speaker 1: billionaire philanthropist that it does give billions away? I don't know,

693
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Speaker 1: can you think of one?

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Speaker 2: I mean, other than Mackenzie Scott?

695
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: No, yeah, other than her? No? And I love what

696
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: she's doing. I think all the more power to her,

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Speaker 1: you know, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think like the Gates Foundation has done

699
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Speaker 3: a lot in the world, but it is so it's

700
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Speaker 3: the Gates Foundation to the point of like naming things.

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Speaker 2: It's the Gates Foundation, and it's.

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Speaker 3: Their work, right, Like it's their work. It's not just

703
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Speaker 3: giving it to people who are doing the good work.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there are so many charities in this country

705
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Speaker 3: doing so many good things.

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Speaker 4: And well with experts. Yeah, just I don't know. It's

707
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Speaker 4: weirdo boy, and it's really weird. What the what is

708
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Speaker 4: the platform you're going to use to do this podcast thing?

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Speaker 1: Do you know yet? Or is it too early to talk?

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Speaker 2: Too early to talk about it? Okay, oh, that'd be great.

711
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Speaker 3: And then I'm also I have a I have a

712
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Speaker 3: book proposal out right now, which is fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited about it, worked on it for a long time,

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Speaker 3: and I think it's the right time to start telling

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Speaker 3: the story in a book as well.

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Speaker 1: Well. I think that would be wonderful. And I can

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Speaker 1: see you selling the rights and hopefully getting some of

719
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Speaker 1: the money that you uh, you know, spent on this

720
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Speaker 1: catastrophe of your life. This no charges ever against your

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Speaker 1: husband and four years of hell and harassment from the

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Speaker 1: DOJ and the lawyers of Amazon. It makes no sense

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Speaker 1: in uh, in my mind, you know.

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Speaker 3: It really doesn't. I would say the one thing that

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Speaker 3: I think has been helpful. I really learned though that

726
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Speaker 3: I wish other people could learn.

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Speaker 2: I would.

728
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Speaker 3: I hope people don't have to learn it, but if

729
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Speaker 3: they had to, is that you know, it can be

730
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Speaker 3: really terrifying to use your voice with really powerful people

731
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Speaker 3: and institutions are coming at you. But if you have

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Speaker 3: the truth, like you can use your voice, and you should.

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Speaker 3: And that is the remarkable thing about TikTok.

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Speaker 1: I think, I agree. There are so many, you know,

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Speaker 1: instances where women don't get voice of a microphone. You know,

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Speaker 1: they don't get the chance to. If you have access

737
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Speaker 1: to a microphone and you're somehow in the public eye,

738
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Speaker 1: use it, even if that's TikTok. Only use it. So

739
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Speaker 1: say what your your piece, say what you feel needs

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Speaker 1: to be said. What's happening, you know, I mean, authenticity

741
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: and truth have been so damaged in the last you know,

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Speaker 1: ten years and maybe even more. And I think it's

743
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: all people crave, it's all humans need. It's all that

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00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: we really want, but we haven't known where to get

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00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: it or how to get it yet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's completely right. And I think, you know,

747
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 3: it's made worse by the fact that, like the news

748
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 3: is hard to digest and you you don't know if

749
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Speaker 3: you're ever really getting the story. And I think that,

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Speaker 3: you know, the ability to tell your own story is

751
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 3: a remarkable thing. I think about the Violet Revolution, how

752
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Speaker 3: Twitter allowed that.

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Speaker 2: To happen in twenty.

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Speaker 3: Elevens by allowing people to gather together, and I think that,

755
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 3: you know, social media has given us all a voice

756
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: and it's it's a remarkable thing.

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Speaker 2: TikTok is, it's an incredible platform.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I'm so glad to have met you on there.

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00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: I feel like i'm your friend that when I see

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00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: you pop up, I'm always like leaving a little comment

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Speaker 1: like keep going because you know you're you're a really

762
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: remarkable woman, Amy or you should be played by Jennifer

763
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Speaker 1: Garner as it goes to a series and you know,

764
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Speaker 1: kick ass like Alias. You know what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 1: I'd love for you, like to get into training and

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Speaker 1: become an MMA star and become the champion and then

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Speaker 1: fight Jeff Bezos. So exactly. Well, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for coming on this podcast, and I will totally totally

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Speaker 1: look forward to whatever truth you want to put out

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00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: there in whatever form, because people need to know what's

771
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: happened to your family and how it could happen to

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Speaker 1: them if it could happen to you, And it's pretty terrifying.

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Speaker 1: And thank you for sharing it and alerting people and

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00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: warning people that this is a reality that happens to

775
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: people and mostly you never hear about it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Rosie. It means the world that

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Speaker 3: you've listened and that you have me on today.

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Speaker 1: Well my pleasure, Amy Nelson. Find her on TikTok. Ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen. We will be back with questions right after

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00:39:44,400 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: this Isn't that insane? Can you even believe that happened

781
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: to this family and it's still happening. I would like

782
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Speaker 1: to add that since we tape this podcast, the government,

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Speaker 1: supported by seventeen state attorneys general, finally filed a long

784
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: awaited antitrust lawsuit against Amazon. That's right, they're saying it's

785
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: a monopoly. The government alleged that the etailer uses a

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Speaker 1: set of interlocking, anti competitive and unfair strategies to illegally

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Speaker 1: maintain its monopoly power. Wow. That is a huge thing

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Speaker 1: for us as a nation and a huge thing for

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Speaker 1: Amy Nelson and her family. We are definitely going to

790
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Speaker 1: have her on again and do a follow up when

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Speaker 1: this is all finally resolved for her, and I hope

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Speaker 1: she gets to file her own lawsuit against Amazon and

793
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Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos for what they have done to her family.

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Speaker 1: That's just a little personally anecdote right there. Okay, now

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Speaker 1: we have some questions and comments from you, the loyal listeners.

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00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I think we have two today.

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00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: I haven't heard them. I never do. We just go

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Speaker 1: for it as we go for it, and go ahead,

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Speaker 1: go for it.

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Speaker 5: Hi, Rosie, my name is Annie. I'm from Quebec, Canada.

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Speaker 5: I just want to tell you that it's a couple

802
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 5: of times now that I watch your show that I

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00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 5: listened to your podcast with the Doctor Rosen and about

804
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 5: we Go videos and pick and everything, and it really

805
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 5: changed the way I think about it. I mightpy you

806
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 5: did that because you're doing your service to people, because

807
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 5: nobody in around me talks about these things. I tak

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00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 5: ozempic for like six months now. I lost like thirty

809
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 5: six pounds about a pound a week, which is very good.

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Speaker 5: And it changed my life. But not just because it

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Speaker 5: my weight is lower on the scale. It's because it

812
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 5: changed my life. I can move more. I don't think

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Speaker 5: about food. But I realized that when I listen to you,

814
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 5: and I listened to the episode like for the fourth

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00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 5: time today because I was taking a walk and listening

816
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 5: it to it again, and I was thinking, my god,

817
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 5: nobody explained it like that to me, and it really

818
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 5: changed something inside me that I accept myself more because

819
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 5: I was thinking that I was doing the taking the

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Speaker 5: easy way, taking ozembic. But it's not that. It's just

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Speaker 5: the way it's working for my body. I have the

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Speaker 5: freaking thrifty gene and nothing will change for me. I'm

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Speaker 5: almost fifty now and it's changing my life and I'm

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Speaker 5: so happy and I'm a new person. And I'm happy

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Speaker 5: to see that you talk about it, because if you

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Speaker 5: talk about it, other people will understand that it's not

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Speaker 5: a question of laziness. It's a question of being ready

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Speaker 5: to change your life. And obesity is an illness like

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Speaker 5: any other any other illness. If you have a cancer,

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Speaker 5: you're going to take medication, but it's the same thing

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Speaker 5: if you're a beast. You need the medication to help you.

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Speaker 5: It's changing my life and I find it amazing. So

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Speaker 5: I just want to thank you because I was looking

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Speaker 5: for ways to talk to you because it really changed

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Speaker 5: my life and I just wanted you to know, so

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Speaker 5: I have a good day. Goodbye.

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Speaker 1: First of all, what a beautiful message. And second of all,

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Speaker 1: I love your accent. I really love your accent. I

839
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Speaker 1: could listen to you all day. But yes, I mean

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Speaker 1: I have been on Munjaro since December and it's changed

841
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Speaker 1: my life too, Honey. You know what, I'm going to

842
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Speaker 1: be sixty two in March, and I fought with Waite

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Speaker 1: my whole life, my whole family, my extended family. Everyone

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Speaker 1: has the O'Donnell shape, the big beer belly kind of

845
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Speaker 1: and but you know, you always felt like something was

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00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: wrong with you, and you were lazy, and you had

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Speaker 1: a will power, and it's you do a real big

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Speaker 1: job of beating yourself up if you're an overweight person

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Speaker 1: in this world, because societal stigma is still so prevalent

850
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: and so intense, and I think the truth is what

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00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: people want and need, and self love is part of

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Speaker 1: the journey of healing. And I think anyone who says

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Speaker 1: that taking munjarro or any of these drugs is the

854
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: easy way out is lying or doesn't understand or is

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Speaker 1: lacking the compassion that one would hope you are able

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Speaker 1: to give yourself. So thank you. I would love to

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Speaker 1: talk to you about it. And I think this drug

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Speaker 1: is going to be used to help millions more people,

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Speaker 1: not just people with diabetes and obesity, which is a disease.

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Speaker 1: So thank you, thank you, thank you. All Right, do

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Speaker 1: we have another one? The last one for the day,

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Speaker 1: and then we're done? Hit it?

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Speaker 6: Hi, Rosie. This is Nick from Chicago. I'm a longtime

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Speaker 6: fan and first time caller. I had to call because

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Speaker 6: I am turning forty this year and my husband had

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Speaker 6: asked what did I want for my birthday, and the

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Speaker 6: only thing I could think of was I wanted a

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Speaker 6: Rosie O'Donnell showcake. So next weekend, I turned forty on

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Speaker 6: October thirteenth, and I am getting my Rosie cake. I

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Speaker 6: can't wait to see it. I have no idea what

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Speaker 6: it's going to look like, but I am thrilled. And

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00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 6: the reason that is is because your show has meant

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00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 6: so much to me. Not only in the years that

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00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 6: I would run home from school watching it after school

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00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 6: and learning about Broadway and learning about TV and New

876
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 6: York life and all the things, but it taught me

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00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 6: so much about empathy and doing good for others with

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00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 6: all the super kids always being charitable with no matter

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00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 6: if you had a little or if you had a lot,

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00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 6: but just always looking out for others. And it's really

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00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 6: paved away from me in life to be what I

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00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 6: would consider it a good person. I just can't thank

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00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 6: you enough. And I had the opportunity to see your

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00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 6: show in Chicago when you were here, and it was

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00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 6: such a thrill and just a dream to finally see

886
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 6: you do a show in person and everything, and it

887
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 6: was just a thrill. And then to have you living

888
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 6: in Chicago was even better. It was just awesome. So

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00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 6: thank you for everything. You've meant so much to me.

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Speaker 6: And my question for today is with the Rossi O'Donnell show,

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00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 6: I was curious if you have any props or any

892
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 6: of the set pieces that were part of it. This

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00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 6: set was such an integral part to that show and

894
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 6: just set the tone and was so fun and it

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00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 6: just even when the desks were being switched out after

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00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 6: any Lasagna won the trivia contest, it was just a

897
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 6: ball to see what was going to happen next, and

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00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 6: it was always just such a familiar, happy place. So

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Speaker 6: I would love to hear if you have anything, love you,

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Speaker 6: and thanks again for everything.

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Speaker 1: That is the sweetest. You are the sweetest, and happy

902
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: birthday to you. That's such a it's so it's unbelo

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00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: be to be my age and have lived my life

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Speaker 1: and to get to hear comments like this. I have

905
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: to say, I always tell the producers it sounds like

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00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: I'm picking the questions because they're all so nice. So

907
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, it can't be they're all nice,

908
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: but they are. You're all nice, So thank you for that.

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00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: You're all nice. You know. I don't have anything from

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00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: the actual set. I didn't keep that stuff. I have

911
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: specific things that people gave me. I have an amazing,

912
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: amazing scrap book that has every letter of every celebrity

913
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Speaker 1: who wrote me when the show premiered, and it is

914
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Speaker 1: unbelievable to read through Bob Hope and you know, Carol Channing,

915
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: and it's just it's hard to believe that it's even

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Speaker 1: my life. I have to say, I'm so glad it

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00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: affected you in such a positive way. I'm so glad

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00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: that you sound like such an empathy, kind hearted person

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00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: and that you credit me with any of that. I

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00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: beg to differ, but I thank you for what your

921
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: words mean to me. Thank you for saying them and

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Speaker 1: for leaving the message, and thank you for loving with

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Speaker 1: a big heart. I appreciate it. Hey, keep these questions

924
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Speaker 1: and comments coming. Suggestions, all your thoughts and opinions to

925
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 1: onward Rosie at gmail dot com. That's onward Rosie at

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Speaker 1: gmail dot com. Next week, right here, my friend, the

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Speaker 1: magical singer songwriter Sophie B. Hawkins joins me for a

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Speaker 1: wild and fun conversation. She's got a brand new album out,

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Speaker 1: she's been touring, and she's a pretty enchanted human. Sophie B.

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Speaker 1: Hawkins next week right here. Thanks, byebye,