1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Brady. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Noel. They called 6 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: me Ben. We're joined as always with our super producer 7 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: Alexis code name Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you are you. 8 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: You are here, and that makes this the stuff they 9 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: don't want you to know. Uh. It is the top 10 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: of the week. It is our one of our favorite 11 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: times of the week. It's the time when we explore 12 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: strange news. Now in all transparency, Uh, my audio might 13 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: sound a little bit different Matt Nolan's. As you guys 14 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: pointed out in a previous episode, I disappeared for a second. 15 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: I'm still mid adventure, but managed to find a mike 16 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: and so, uh So, as you know, all of us 17 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: hate to miss any episodes. So I maybe on and 18 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: off for a just a little bit here as I 19 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: sort some things out. But we are still doing this 20 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: amazing show. We're so lucky to have you here, folks. Uh. 21 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: And as LLL cool J said, don't call it a comeback. 22 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: Where are we talking about you'll find? Uh? Yeah, look, 23 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: people have all sorts of questions these days. Are we 24 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: don't even know so much mystery? Oh jeez, Well, you 25 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: know we've been at it. We've been at this for 26 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: a while. You know, you get in situations. Uh so 27 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: we we know that three is a year full of questions. 28 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: Questions like what's going on with Tesla's or what's going 29 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: on with TikTok and the l A p D? What's 30 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: going on with with those eye drops? Uh, what's the 31 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: real story there? And you know a question that our 32 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: good pal and uh erstwhile guest, Lucky Yates always asked 33 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: us like every time, can we bring back the Dodo? 34 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: You guys remember this, Like he's always like he talks 35 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: about it on air, He talks about and stuff he talks, right, 36 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: isn't isn't that his cult? The cult or something like that. Yeah, 37 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: he has a he has a cult of the Dodo. 38 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: Now we know we have a lot of people listening 39 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: to us. Yeah, something like that. We'll have to check 40 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 1: back with Lucky very soon. Yes, yeah, we're gonna check 41 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: back with Lucky. And we know there are many adherents 42 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: of his belief system in the audience today. So we 43 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: don't want to get your doctrine wrong, but we do 44 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: want to tell you one of our first strange news 45 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: stories for this week's segment is something that made us 46 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: think of you, Lucky. That's a matter of fact, it 47 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: was texted you. I just don't know what time it 48 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: is where you're at. Someone is going to bring back 49 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: the Dodo. At least that's what they announced on Tuesday, 50 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: January thirty feet. As we record this, it's somewhere between 51 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: February one and February two. So very recently a group 52 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: named Colossal Biosciences said we're going to bring back the Dodo. 53 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: We already got funding for it because they just announced 54 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: another public funding initiative round of investment that gives them 55 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: an extra hundred and fifty million dollars, which is not 56 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: a lot when you're talking about bringing back an extinct species. Uh. 57 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: And then overall, since Colossal Biosciences has made a total 58 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: of two hundred and twenty five million dollars in investment. However, 59 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: right now they're valuation, the value that investors put them 60 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:08,119 Speaker 1: at is over one billion US dollars, and that's due 61 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: to their previous projects, such as continuing research on bringing 62 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:17,119 Speaker 1: back one the mammoth get it colossal man, and then 63 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: and then to uh, the Tasmanian tiger. We talked about 64 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: both of these a little bit. We even had an 65 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: episode on the idea of de extinction. We're bringing these 66 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: bringing these creatures back into the living world. Yeah. At 67 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: this point, though, to set up the convo, we have 68 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: to admit right now, there are no mammoths living and 69 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: there are no officially acknowledged Tasmanian tigers. Though there are 70 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: a lot of avid cryptic hunters and crypto zoologists who 71 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: believe that the tiger either is alive now or died 72 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: out much more recently than is officially acknowledged. And that's 73 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: probably true for our money. Well, Ben, the mind immediately 74 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: goes to Jurassic Park type stuff. Is this sort of 75 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: like a scientific magic trick to say, hey, look what 76 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: I can do? Or is there like a real reason 77 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: for doing this. I mean, again, all creatures are great 78 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: and smaller are worth the should should live. But you know, 79 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: the Dodo died out largely because it was flightless and 80 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: couldn't really cut it. Yeah, the Dodo was specifically evolved 81 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: to a pretty distinct ecological niche, right, and when humans 82 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: came along, they absolutely upended the They absolutely upended this thing. 83 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: The dodo was never everywhere. It was endemic to a 84 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: small island east of Madagascar. It's like you said, also, 85 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: flightless bird. It doesn't. I say this as someone who 86 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: loves nature, that loves all living things. It doesn't have 87 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: a lot going for it in the brutal game of 88 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: of alutions. So big eggs, which we may be part 89 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: of why it went extinct, Sailor's leve them. Well, I 90 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: think the big eggs might be the reason to bring 91 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: them back. Sables with eggs lately, guys. We need some 92 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: giant eggs that we can mass produce, and we're gonna 93 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna bring back dodos to achieve it. Yeah, let's 94 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: bring them back and enslave them and an egg and 95 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: industrial egg farms. That sounds like a really good use 96 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: of this godlike power. Let's do an egg expiracy. It's 97 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: really good. Actually, we need it's very topical. Yeah, Okay, no, 98 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: that's gonna be. We're making it official, folks. That's gonna 99 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: be one of the next things we recorded. And we 100 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: got some great dark Brandon's on top of it. We 101 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: got some great suggestions from listeners about this too. Yes, yes, 102 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: so eggs. Maybe that's the answer For a lot of investors. 103 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: The idea of a live Dodo is more important, not 104 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: for the specific species, I know how cold that is, 105 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: but more so because the process of de extincting a 106 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:07,239 Speaker 1: Dodo will create scientific breakthroughs that can be iterated out 107 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: to other less awkwardly specific life forms. Is that okay 108 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: to say that I'm trying to be diplomatic specific doing 109 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: a fine job, and you know that was I mean, 110 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: I was joking about Jurassic Park because that's the most 111 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: kind of gross consumer reason for employing this kind of science. 112 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: But along the way you do stumble upon some other 113 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: discoveries and breakthroughs. So maybe there are species of animals 114 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: that would still flourish today if they were reintroduced back 115 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: into the wild through a process like this. But it 116 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: also kind of feels like a slippery slope thing, you know, 117 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: like if if we did with that put things out 118 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: of balance in some way, you know, right, I think 119 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: if we could bring back the original bananas, like just 120 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: through figure out how to do this bring back like 121 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: like you said, other forms of life that have been 122 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: gone for so long if you could what if this 123 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: is like a future reincarnation company, like you could bring 124 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: back a specific individual within a species. Do we have 125 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: no more about the science, Ben, we do. We do. 126 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: We know a little bit about the science. And we also, 127 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: I want to be very very fair here for a 128 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: lot of us hearing this today, you might hear that 129 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: Colossal Biosciences has not yet made a mammoth, not yet 130 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: made a Tasmanian tiger, and you might think it's a grift. 131 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: But looking at their website, looking at the reporting, they 132 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: do have legit scientists, and you know, it's fine to 133 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: be skeptical about this, but let's not dismiss it as 134 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: saying it's just a cash grab. They actually um the 135 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: way they got the funding this time was launching what 136 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: they call the Avian Genomics groups. So there they are 137 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: clearly aware that each of these problems of the extinction 138 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: and have to be tackled in a different way. If 139 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: you go to their website, which is pretty slick, then 140 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: you will see information from Ben lamb l A. M m, 141 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: the co founder and CEO, along with Dr Beth Shapiro, 142 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: who is the lead paleo geneticists. So they do have 143 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: they do have world experts in this field working on 144 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: these things. As far as spinning out the future, you know, 145 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: that's anyone's game. It's clear that a lot of people 146 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: are thinking in those long horizons like you're talking about Matt, 147 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: They're still thinking through like what could happen with this? 148 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: Would it be possible to make entirely new ecosystems or 149 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: excuse me, resurrect long gone ecosystems? And if so, to 150 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: your point about Jurassic Parknell, should you The big thing 151 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: right now is the way to explain the amount of 152 00:09:54,920 --> 00:10:00,119 Speaker 1: attention they're getting now is not so much people thinking 153 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: in terms of side sci fi space a g headlines 154 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: like oh, we're bringing back the Dodo, We're bringing back 155 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: the blah blah blah. There's a little bit of pr 156 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: in it. But places like the United Nations and these 157 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: huge international funding initiatives, they're trying to save the stuff 158 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: that's here now. Bio diversity is at a crisis point, 159 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: so they're they're saying, okay, let's in a very real way. 160 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: A lot of these powerful forces are looking at these 161 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: extinct things, and they're thinking, not, oh, it would be 162 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: cool for me to have a pet Tasmanian tiger. I 163 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: can flex on the other billionaires. They're thinking, this might be, 164 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: this might give us a process that we can use 165 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: to d extinct stuff that's here now, that is on 166 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: the way out, so we can say, you know, like, hey, whoops, 167 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: you thought there were no more rhinos. Well guess what 168 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: we just up to it to seven. Everybody be more 169 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: careful next time, you know what I mean. They're trying 170 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: to earn a whoop. See, it does make you think 171 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: about the nature of evolution and how you know, an 172 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: advanced civilization like humanity can kind of up end that 173 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: process or like you know, escalate it significantly or you know, 174 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: speed it up. But it's like, if you think about 175 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: just the you know, the Darwinian concept of evolution as 176 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: it happened over a really long period of time with 177 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: things just kind of occurring naturally. Humans sort of upset 178 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: that to a degree. So do we include humans and 179 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: a larger view of evolution? And you know a lot 180 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: of species are going extinct because of human intervention and 181 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: stupid things that we've done to the environment. Are we 182 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: the anomaly like should or you know, if these species 183 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: are introduced back, is that going to upset the balance 184 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: of of of nature. I'm gonna give you this is 185 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: my interpretation of the answers found on the website you mentioned, 186 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: ben Colossal dot com. They have a section it asked 187 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: the question can the harm humanity has caused to be undone, 188 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: and below it it says the answer is yes, and 189 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: it gives three examples of animals they would like to 190 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: bring back and reintroduce into the wild and fully populated. 191 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: The number one creature here is the Florida panther, an 192 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: actual no panther that would just be roaming around Florida. 193 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: So I think what they're saying is we reintroduce panthers 194 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: and other apex predators to thin the herd of humans. 195 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: That's not what they're saying. That's just what's just takes 196 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: the implication right, not like that. The issue is that 197 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: the the boffins, the eggheads predict that by about fifty 198 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: of all species of life on Earth are going to 199 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: be extinct on the way of the Dodo as people say. 200 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: And the next problem is like there's very much a 201 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: ticking clock here, right, there's a doomsday clock of bio 202 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: diverse and it's arguably closer than the doomsday clock of 203 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: nuclear war. So what we're seeing here is that I 204 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: think the Mammoth project has had a lot of breakthroughs 205 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: apparently right because there there's mammoth material that's been recovered. 206 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: There are elephants that are relations of the mammoth um. 207 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: Colossal bioscience Is says they're going to be on track 208 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: to produce juvenile mammoth's mammoth calves by But then then, 209 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, we have to consider the other part. What 210 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: if you learn some neat little genetic remixing tricks, uh? 211 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: And what if you can kind of you remember that 212 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: that DJ girl talk, Yeah, yeah, do mash ups? What 213 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: if you can what if you can girl talk genetic 214 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: sequencing a little bit? You know what I mean? To 215 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: your point about apex predators, Matt, how about a Siberian 216 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: tire that breeds faster? How about polar bears that are 217 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: cool with the tropics, right, cool with the tropics. Sorry, 218 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: it's I mean, I don't think I think it's very 219 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: far afield for us to say that there's an animal 220 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: So there's an animal centric supervillain out there, who's like, 221 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: the most direct way to make the world a better 222 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: place is to kill humans, not with diseases and not 223 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: with nuclear weapons, but with incredibly complicated genetic splices of 224 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: animals from the past, a smarter t Rex. Well not 225 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: sort of what the moral of Jurassic Park was, right, 226 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: you know, play god and you're gonna get got rhinos 227 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: absolutely everywhere some jaman g type stuff here. Yes, yeah, 228 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: and we know that this has been occurring, like, look, 229 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: this has been occurring in the world of fiction for 230 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: quite a long time. And it's also it goes through 231 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: these cyclical resurgences. Fiction and nonfiction are very very closely related, 232 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: more so than book publishers maybe want us to think. 233 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: At times. I know we're in in odd circumstances here, 234 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: and I don't want to spoil too much because I 235 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: think we should say that this is not quite ready 236 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: for an episode, but there's more to come on the way, 237 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: So I want to end before we go to sponsor 238 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: break with one last banger piece of information. You're ready, yes, 239 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: Oh good, because it'd be awkward if you're like nah, um, Okay. Strategically, 240 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: it's less about the mammoths and more about the capability 241 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: to engineer animals and plants. This is a quote from 242 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: an outfit called in q Tell, which some of us 243 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: may recognize as the venture capital arm of the Central 244 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: Intelligence Agency. Oh my god, that we'll be right back? 245 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: Is that real? Yes? And we're back. But wait wait 246 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: been uh seriously? Yeah, we saved until the end. Yeah 247 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: they are, they're they're throwing some cash. They're throwing some 248 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: cash to colossal biosciences. Of course, they are for apocalyptic 249 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: type prepping essentially. I don't know, I just okay, all right, 250 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: oh boy, okay. That was a banger of a story 251 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: been with a lot of implications, and I'm sure we'll 252 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: be revisiting that one in addition to an experience the 253 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: episode uh in the future. But for now, UM, I 254 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: have a little bit. It's not lighter exactly, maybe smaller implications. 255 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: But have you guys heard of this l a uh 256 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: kind of road rage terrorists. He's almost like a like 257 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: a serial road rager you tear arising the city of 258 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, which, as we know, is massive. So have 259 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: you guys heard about this guy? I'll tell you. In 260 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: my head, I'm imagining someone in a really fast truck 261 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: like a Okay, yeah, you don't see a whole lot 262 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: of true. Well that's not true. There's all kinds of 263 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: cars in l A. But uh, you know, they're very 264 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: gas guzzling conscious and um, you know if you people 265 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 1: are frowned upon when they have like hummers and big trucks, 266 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: So you see them a little less frequently. And I 267 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: think the emission standards are also a little more intense 268 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles because of all the the smog and 269 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: the pollution because it's such a you know, driving city. 270 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: Because they're public transit basically sucks, much like Atlanta, so 271 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 1: that has that in common with Atlanta. But yes, uh, 272 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: not a f one fifty, but a Tesla Model X 273 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: has been essentially the driver of which it's not the 274 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: the self dry having AI terrorizing people yet, but for now, 275 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: it's this this fellow that was driving this car. Numerous 276 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: reports of a guy driving a black Tesla Model X 277 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: getting out of the car uh in traffic jams, running 278 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: towards other cars and smashing them with a large metal pipe. 279 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: That's kind of just the common theme is this guy 280 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: getting out and smashing people's cars with the pipe. There 281 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: are probably other incidents as well, because it was reported 282 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: so many times that think about the ones that didn't 283 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: report it. So the authorities have been looking for this 284 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: guy at the very least since January eleven, um, when 285 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: several of these reports amen, you know, but again there 286 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: there may well be others which will find out when 287 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: we hear about this guy's history. Um, you guys can 288 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: can decide for yourselves. But uh, the L A P. 289 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: D uh not doing the best job finding this guy. 290 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: And apparently, by the way, um the tesla and question 291 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: didn't have plates, which is weird and a massive red flag. 292 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: And I've read that in a couple of places, but 293 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 1: then I'm also seeing it not mentioned in a few 294 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: other stories, so that could well not be the case. 295 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: But the point is they didn't find the guy until 296 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: a TikTok influencer helped essentially, you know, crowdsourced the hunt 297 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: for this uh, this road rage terrorist. A internet sleuth 298 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: is what they're being referred to as, called tizzy ent, 299 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 1: who started sharing eyewitness news videos. Again, there were some 300 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: like I guess dash camp footage I think that was 301 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: making the rounds, and perhaps some traffic stop light videos, 302 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: but I think mainly dash camp footage because people were 303 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: essentially reporting and then contributing what they had to offer. UM. 304 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: But again, even with that, the l a p D 305 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: wasn't able to find the guy. And this UH, this 306 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: Tizzy n has five point three million TikTok followers UM 307 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: and Tizzy and said that three people immediately came forward 308 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: with a name, an actual name, that this person then 309 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: passed along to police. And this is a quote from 310 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: them from ABC seven out of Los Angeles. It was 311 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: kind of shocking to hear how much had happened, how 312 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: many incidents, and how many victims there seemed to be, 313 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: and that just reinforced the fact that this is not okay. 314 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: This guy needs to get off the road. And the 315 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: person in question who was UH taken into custody by 316 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: the California how A Patrol on January UH is an 317 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: individual by the name of Nathaniel Walter radamac Um. He 318 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: has thus far been booked for assault with a deadly 319 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: weapon UH and also apparently had two outstanding warrants. Bail 320 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: has been set at five point one seven five million 321 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: dollars and Boo who his Tesla Tesla Model X was impounded, 322 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: Well we should we should also mention I think something important. 323 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: We talked about this just briefly off air. Whenever we 324 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: mentioned the name of someone who has been charged or 325 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: taken into custody but has not been convicted, we're mentioning 326 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: their name because it is now a matter of public records. 327 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: So absolutely, yeah. And and that's because this occurs in 328 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: the United States. Sometimes when you hear us not mentioned 329 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: a person's name, it's because the laws of the country 330 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: in which they were charged or taken into custody are different. 331 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: But but to be clear, you know, um, like we 332 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: know you and Matt and I were talking about this 333 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: just briefly off air. We're not dock seeing anybody anything 334 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: like that. And if you look at the camera footage, 335 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: which you shared some of this with us, and if 336 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: you look at that, it's pretty clear whose face that is. 337 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: And it's pretty terrifying. I mean, some of this looks 338 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: like footage out of like a Grand theft auto game. 339 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: Dude is literally hanging out the window of his car 340 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: with like a mask kind of covering, like a spandex 341 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: E type mask, covering the bottom of his face with 342 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: his arm, a very muscular arm, i might add, hanging 343 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: out the window wielding this pipe, and then there are 344 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: multiple other videos showing him as well. Um, and those 345 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: other outstanding warrants that I mentioned, um, well, actually I'm 346 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: not quite sure what those specifically were, but it was 347 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: determined that this individual had reports and convictions of attacks 348 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: dating back like ten years, including you know, assault, um, 349 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: you know, battery, criminal threats, things like stalking. And also 350 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 1: there was a specific report of this person punching a 351 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: woman in the face, um and blackening her eye in 352 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: October of one. So Tizzy End actually referred to the 353 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: person as a career criminal. It's insane that he hasn't 354 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: been pulled over just on a routine where's your license 355 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: well plate? Where's your license plate? Exactly where the heck 356 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: is I think you know that's required? Right really quickly, guys, 357 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 1: I want to bring up this other thing that the 358 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: l A Times mentions. They're saying that this person allegedly 359 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: this person was also involved in an incident in January 360 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: where he attacked driver in Hollywood, it says, and then 361 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: it says it goes on, uh quote when his car 362 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: was searched, steroids and thirty dollars were found that right, 363 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: he was well, he and apparently I had also read 364 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: elsewhere that he was selling them that he was part 365 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: of some sort of illegal steroid uh operation. So again, 366 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: the details aren't fully filled in all the way yet. 367 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: But but I think the most important detail that we 368 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: do have is that this crime like I'm scared of 369 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: getting pulled over for following too closely, you know what 370 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: I mean? Like if I was running around the land 371 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: like like menacing people with a lead pipe, you think 372 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: just the basic level of police presence would have caught 373 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: me with multiple instances of this kind of behavior. Yeah, 374 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: that's if we're thinking rationally, you know. And this this 375 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: guy probably without being you know, without being expert psychiatrists, 376 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: as we established earlier. Uh, this guy is probably dealing 377 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: with some demons, uh and taking that out on strangers. 378 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: I do want to specify real quick because I know 379 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: people in California, fellow conspiracy realists are gonna point this 380 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: out as well. He didn't have a rear license plate. 381 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: He had a front license plate, so they can California, 382 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: you have to have one on on either end. So 383 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: still though I'm thinking like the same thing you're thinking, Noll. 384 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: And you're thinking as well, man, like how many how 385 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: many brushes with the law doesn't want to have to have. 386 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: There's dash cam footage of things like why I why 387 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: wasn't uh C h P or l A p D 388 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: on this faster we Maybe maybe he's providing l A 389 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 1: p D with steroids, y'all. I'm just kidding. It's been 390 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: a long time, but I just I don't don't live 391 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: in l A. So maybe any Los angeleos out there 392 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: let us know your perspective. But the l A p 393 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: D has had a bad rap for a long time 394 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: for targeting minorities, uh and not necessarily you know, white 395 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: folks that are out there driving really fancy expensive cars. 396 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking, you know, back to Rodney King beatings 397 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 1: and all of that stuff. So you know, it is 398 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: obviously a massive, massive metro area and you're not going 399 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: to catch everybody every time. But this guy was doing 400 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 1: this thing like a lot, it seems, and had a 401 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: history Like why could he even he shouldn't. I don't 402 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 1: know why you could even get a driver's license after 403 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: some of the types of accusations that I'm seeing here. Yeah, 404 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: and then also, you know, this reminds me we should 405 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: do an episode on the idea of gangs within law. 406 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: Enforcement cop gangs. I've seen training day. Well, yeah, we've 407 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: also we've also had some of our fellow conspiracy realists 408 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: who have worked in law enforcement writing in about this 409 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: well in the recent Scorpion group thing, sure, the Georgia program, 410 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: that's Scorpion in Memphis, which got disbanded after the the 411 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: horrific death of an innestant man. So police forces across 412 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 1: the nation obviously still lots and lots of work to do. 413 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: But this is a you know, we we've kind of 414 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: ragged on TikTok a little bit here and there, um, 415 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: but it is interesting when you see this is the 416 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: kind of thing we saw with Twitter, where people are like, 417 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: at least in terms of geopolitics, coming to defend Twitter 418 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: because of the Arab spring and like like things that 419 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: social media can do that are good that law enforcement 420 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: just can't do. They don't have that five point whatever 421 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 1: million followers and on demand band of armchair sleuths at 422 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: their disposal. They've got, you know, theoretically professional sleuths, but 423 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: maybe they're just I don't know, they're a little strapped 424 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: speaking of what Twitter can do, guys, we need to 425 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: do another episode. Got another suggestion for us the Twitter 426 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: files from Yeah, I'm probably of the four of us 427 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,239 Speaker 1: right now code named Doc Matt Nolan yours truly, I'm 428 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: probably the most active on Twitter. Uh and I've I've 429 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: seen some of the who's some of the speculation. Let 430 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: me tell you, Let me just tell you. If you're 431 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: not on Twitter, Ellen Musk has gone by the handle 432 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: Mr Twitter now and is very what Corporate America will 433 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: call hands on in replying to things. Reply guy, yeah, 434 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: it's almost beetle juice rules like you don't You could 435 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: noculously tag that handle in a tweet, and this guy, 436 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: who I can we imagine is very busy, might show 437 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: up to respond. The guy from smash Mouth apparently will 438 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: vehemently like harass anyone that makes fun of All Star 439 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: as being only because of Shrek. That guy will come 440 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: for you and say, no, All Star was a hit 441 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: before Shrek. Um, that's kind of what Elon Musk is 442 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: up to. But which is a good good a good 443 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: mission for that guy. If that must be the smash 444 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: Mouth dharma, then so be it. But the you know, 445 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: on a positive note, no need to railists. But on 446 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: a positive note, for newbody who still goes to the 447 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: hellscape that is Twitter. On a positive note, the band 448 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: eve six, whomever is in charge of that Twitter account, 449 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: that's great, But that's the main guy. He's sort of 450 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: a known clever internet fella. Yeah, yeah, he's cool. Yeah. 451 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: I actually saw him on a live stream um do 452 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: and a conversation with Steve Albini, who is a notoriously 453 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: of cranky uh and hot take written record producer. He 454 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: produced like Nirvana in the Pixies and stuff like that, 455 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: and he has opinions about things in culture and music 456 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,959 Speaker 1: and whatever. And the ves six guy and he had 457 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: a nice conversation and it was part of I think 458 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: on air fest but really cool guys, very clever and 459 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: he U. I liked his I liked his vibe a lot. 460 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: But the smash mouth guy doesn't come for me for 461 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: talking about his dharma on air. You can't hashtag a 462 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:34,479 Speaker 1: podcast yet. He probably won't come come with a lead pipe, 463 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: not on the side of a car, but he definitely 464 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: has a Tesla Model X. Shrek money pays that Shrek 465 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: it's that Shrek money, right, That's that's again. There's a 466 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: Shakespearean almost irony to it. Anyhow, the the question, I 467 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: think that's on a lot of people's mind, all is 468 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: what happens next to this guy? So he is in custody, 469 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: there's a video footage. It doesn't look good. The bail 470 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: is pretty high. The tesla got him own. Dude, do 471 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: we know how this stuff goes? I can only imagine 472 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: that the California court system is as backed up as 473 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: every other court system. But I think with bail that high, 474 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: he's gonna be sitting there for a minute. Um. I'm 475 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: interested in what his deal is to have a car 476 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: like that too. I mean, I guess a lot of 477 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: people go into massive debt to get cars like that, 478 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: even if they don't, you know, have an income that 479 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: warrants it. So but what if he's some CEO or 480 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: like some tech guy or some entertainment I'd be interested 481 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: to hear what his actual deal is. I did not 482 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: do that homework yet, but just before we go to 483 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: a break, I do want to say that the song 484 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: all Star by smash Mouth was in the movie Mystery 485 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: Men before and remember the days when there's a song 486 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: from a movie and the video had clips from it. 487 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: So this was like they took it a step further 488 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: where they actually shot new stuff with Ben Stiller and 489 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: Janine Garoffalo and the guys from smash Mouth. So that's 490 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: was always meant for the movies. Tub Waits is great. 491 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: He's in Mystery Men watching him and him and Janine. 492 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: I have to I have to just do one of these. 493 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: Um how some all the world actually is okay? We 494 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: mentioned two things that are actually really close to our 495 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: world Janine Garoffalo in the Twitter Files, which was primarily 496 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: handled by Matt Taiebi. Do you guys remember that was 497 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: that was the same we we did a live same show. 498 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: We actually did a live show with Janine Garoffalo and 499 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: Matt Taiebe at the Bellhouse in Brooklyn many years ago. 500 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: Very nice people, and I would say to stay humble 501 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: above all things. It's probably more fair to say we 502 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: were also there. Well, technically we went on after them, 503 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: so they opened for us rock and roll rules, Baby, 504 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: But listen, we're gonna take a quick break and then 505 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna come back with one more piece of a 506 00:31:52,760 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: strange news. All right, guys, can I se your question 507 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: before we start? Yeah? Do you guys use eye drops 508 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: regularly for any reason? Because I do? You have to 509 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: tell me if you're a cop man, No, no, my 510 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: eyes always look like allergies. Also, it's not true. They 511 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,959 Speaker 1: don't have to tell you, so don't don't fall for that. 512 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: But um yeah, not like a like a lot of people. 513 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: I have used eye drops, not on a maybe regular basis, 514 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: but you you might have be under the weather, you 515 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: might have something causes redness riching in your eyes, and 516 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: then you typically don't even have to go to a doctor. 517 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: You can just go to a local bodega or convenience 518 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: story and get you know, your generic clear eyes or visy. 519 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: And that's the one saline solution exactly. Isn't that basically 520 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: what it is. It's just salty water. Some of them 521 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: are meant to um, right, so if you've got something 522 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: that's bothering your eye, it will reduce some of whatever 523 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: that inflammation is going on there and the redness. So 524 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: I wear contacts, So every day I use contact lens 525 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: relief eye drops. It's just stuff like this sounds So 526 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: every day I use contact lens relief drops. Well I do, 527 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: and it's because contacts are not fun to wear all 528 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: day because they can get super dry. Right, I'm constantly 529 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: just dropping stuff into my eyeball, just put it in 530 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: my eyeball. Well, I'm coming with a story today. This 531 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: scares the crap out of me. It's scared the crap 532 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: out of me when I read it, and it continues 533 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: to do so. Uh. The CDC, according to NBC News, 534 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: has just warned that quote a brand of eye drops 535 00:33:52,920 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: maybe linked to drug resistant bacterial infections. Remember success, This 536 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: has some I think thematic ties to the extent of 537 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: the fungal infections. Yes, and found a spread across the US. 538 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: Lately it's been infections and me infections and Matt hanging 539 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: out reading about each other, just going, oh no, you're 540 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: watching the last of us. Stories are so infectious. This 541 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 1: was was great episode, episode, unbelievable. I'm watching it tonight. 542 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: Are you kidding? It hasn't ruined it for you? You'll 543 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: enjoy it. That very interested to hear your thoughts. All 544 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 1: the bacon that's all I know about the episode, All 545 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 1: the bacons. But the thing is, h this this idea 546 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: of infections. Can you tell us a little more about 547 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: the CDC report. You said they named a specific brand 548 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: or just like the idea of sailing solution. Let's see. Well, 549 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: that's what scared me because if you read that. If 550 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: you read that title, it's definitely meant to get you 551 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: to click on it. Right that headline, c DC warns 552 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: that quote a brand of eye drops, So you've got 553 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: to click on it to find out what the heck 554 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: is it? Which one is? It isn't mine? Uh, it 555 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: might be, do they say they do? It is called 556 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: Ezri or Ezra care easy r I care artificial tears, 557 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: But that's that's a standard like thing. Right, Artificial tears 558 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: isn't trademarked or is it? I don't think so. I've 559 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: heard of e drops other eye drops I think referred 560 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: to as artificial tears. But is that a trademark of 561 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: this company? I do not think it is. I do 562 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: not think it is. It looks like it was, It 563 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: looks like it depends on where you go. Artificial tears 564 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: is something that is I p in Mumbai. There are 565 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: other brands for sure, goes and clearly generic because like 566 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: right Aid has one that's just called artificial tiers just 567 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 1: sort of like the equivalent of having something that just 568 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: says milk. So I think artificial tears is sort of 569 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 1: a term and it says compare to baoshan Lam Advanced 570 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: iye relief dry eye. But it is a specific version 571 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: of this again, it's called Ezra Care. Now, this is 572 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 1: the thing we have to talk about. This is why 573 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: for me, it's stuff they don't want you to know 574 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 1: and worth talking about. This specific brand has been identified 575 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 1: by the CDC as being potentially linked to a small 576 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: outbreak of people who've been getting these types of infections. 577 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: Potentially linked because several of the people who were infected 578 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: report using this particular brand of eye drops. And the 579 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 1: reason why it's a bit suspect to me is because 580 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 1: the eye drops themselves like the container, it's very unlikely 581 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: that anything was actually inside that liquid that caused the infection. 582 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: The more likely culprit for infection being caused is because 583 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 1: that particular brand does not use any kind of preservatives 584 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: in it, uh specifically to prevent any kind of bacterial 585 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 1: growth within the bottle itself or on the bottle. So 586 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,399 Speaker 1: the selling point becomes the weak link here, right. They 587 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: would argue it's sort of like more holistic or no preservatives, 588 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,959 Speaker 1: but that could potentially be the cause of the issue. Yes, absolutely, 589 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: the selling point could be the problem. That's that's exactly 590 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 1: what you're saying, Um, it appears that that's what could 591 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: be happening. I've just been reading a lot about this. 592 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: It's getting a lot of coverage right now, this this 593 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: particular brand and this warning from the CDC, and it 594 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 1: really because it scared me about my own. Uh. It 595 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: says right on here it says it's sterile. I certainly 596 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 1: hope it is. But anytime you've got stuff entering your 597 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: eyeball like that, uh, it has to be you have 598 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: to be really careful and like that's why you're always 599 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 1: told if you wear contact, wash your hands thoroughly before 600 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: you take them out or put them in, because if 601 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: any stuff gets in your eye, it can be super 602 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,439 Speaker 1: bad news. It's like pink I mean that you get 603 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: that from impurities or you know, fecal matter and stuff 604 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: getting into your eye potential exactly. It's just it's a 605 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: very it's a very vulnerable entry point for the human system. 606 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: It's not just the window to the soul, it's also 607 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: the window to like your nervous system, right because the 608 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: I mean think about it, like you're your mouth, if 609 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: you're human, has a lot has some of the strongest 610 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 1: muscles right in your body to clamp down right and 611 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: your nose has this whole, uh, this whole winnowing field 612 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: of hair and snot to try to stop stuff from 613 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: getting in there. And your eyes have tears and they 614 00:38:53,239 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: have lashes. It's true though, because you know, that's what 615 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: the eyes are a very sensitive part of human anatomy, 616 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,359 Speaker 1: and they're one of the most necessary parts to like 617 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: the The reason they're allowed to be the way they are, right, 618 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 1: all soft and squshy and pretty easy to reach, is 619 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: because humans rely so much on site, you know, and 620 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 1: haven't quite evolved to the level of having something better, 621 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: just because for many people, their primary sense resources visual, right, 622 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: And I mean that's why it's so important to where 623 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: eye protection when you're working with like chemicals or you know, 624 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: in the wood shop or industrial kind of situations, because 625 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: they're wide open literally and figuratively, and your lashes aren't 626 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: going to protect you from a piece of shrapnel shooting 627 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 1: at you. So what I've kind to question that when Okay, 628 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: so if people are getting in affections and the and 629 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: the vector is the the eye drops going into the eye, 630 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: does that spread to the rest of the body. Does 631 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: it stay in the eye? You know? Is like a 632 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: is like a pink eye thing or is it like 633 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,439 Speaker 1: a more once where the system we're everywhere kind of deal. 634 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: There's a potential for spread depending on how strong your 635 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: immune system is. Right, if you're immunocompromise, there can be 636 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 1: a real problem and it could spread. It could be 637 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: as bad as you're developing sepsis where the bacterial infection 638 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: gets into your bloodstream, which is probably just one of 639 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 1: the scariest potential things that could happen to you, to anyone, 640 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: is to get a sepsis infection before we get too 641 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 1: carried away. Guys, I know, we kind of jumped pretty 642 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: far forward, pretty quickly. Let's read directly from this reporting 643 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:50,760 Speaker 1: by Erica Edwards for NBC News. She writes one person 644 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: has died and at least three others are left with 645 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,839 Speaker 1: permanent vision loss because of a bacterial infection possibly linked 646 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: to this thing um and is. According to the CDC, 647 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: a majority of those affected reported using this specific as 648 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 1: racare artificial tears eye drops product. Just a majority and 649 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,800 Speaker 1: again self reported that they used it. And Erica and 650 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: NBC take great pains to say, Look, the infections have 651 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: not been definitively traced to this product, but they are 652 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 1: recommending that everybody stops using them until this investigation is concluded. 653 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 1: Better safe than sorry, definitely better safe than sorry. And 654 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: they're saying they're at least fifty people in eleven states 655 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: within the United States who were infected with this thing 656 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: called Pseudomonas aragon nosa, which is again an antibiotic resistant bacteria. 657 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: The real scary stuff that you can't just take the 658 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: antibiotics and it will go away. You gotta you probably 659 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 1: have to do I V antibiotics and you have to 660 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: catch it before it spreads too far, so you might 661 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: be looking at hospital time. Yes, definitely. I'm gonna give 662 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 1: you the states right now, Colorado, California, Connecticut, Florida, New Jersey, 663 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: New Mexico, New York, Nevada, Texas, Utah, and Washington. And 664 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: one of the primary reasons outside of the self reporting, 665 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: that that particular eye drop is being targeted is because 666 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: it is sold in all of those places pretty ubiquitously, 667 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: in places like Walmart, which is one of the reasons 668 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 1: you know it's getting distributed across the whole country. And 669 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: then you get to the idea of well, there need 670 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: to be a massive recall of some sort, like how 671 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: do you how do you roll back the wave? But 672 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: they just still they still haven't found a direct link yet, 673 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: right or no publicly announced one. They've just seen a correlation, 674 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: not necessarily causation. Exactly exactly. I'm gonna take us back 675 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 1: to the beginning before we end here, Guys, the reason 676 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: why it's so dangerous to not wash your hands for 677 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: and after you handle one of things. I'm showing you 678 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 1: an example. If you pop open the top of this 679 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:10,359 Speaker 1: thing and your fingers touch this applicator area, like right 680 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 1: where the liquid comes out of, and you've got this 681 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: type of bacteria on your hands, which is unfortunately very common. 682 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 1: If you've got a preservative free substance inside that bottle, 683 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,800 Speaker 1: it could get in there and then continue to grow. 684 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: And like basically your whole bottle is infected, and every 685 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 1: time you drop it in, you're dosing yourself. And whether 686 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 1: or not that first dose becomes an infection within you, 687 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 1: or the second dose or third dose, if you continually 688 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 1: use it, there's a much higher chance that you're going 689 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 1: to be in big trouble. So this is good to know. Again, 690 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: this hasn't been proven, but this is one of those 691 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:50,280 Speaker 1: stories that should take you to your own medicine cabinet 692 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 1: or counter in your bathroom. Just that, just the check 693 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 1: and that. I really appreciate the point the about the 694 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 1: importance of hygiene, because when I was using contacts quite frequently, 695 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: it's so easy to say, I'm I'm in a hurry. 696 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna be completely I'm gonna keep it 697 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 1: a d percent. I had some of those. Uh. I 698 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: had a couple of eye dropped situations where I was like, well, 699 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: there's little there's a little funcus of some sort there 700 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: on the edge, but I had had the cap on, 701 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: and so I'm just gonna like put it in my 702 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 1: eye in a in a non funcus way and that 703 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 1: will be good. Uh. But this, this could lead to 704 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 1: some very very dangerous stuff. Well, yeah, I've had situations 705 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: where a contact falls out and I haven't washed my 706 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 1: hands or anything. I'm scrambling to find it. I find it, 707 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: and I don't have contact solutions. So I poured some 708 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 1: water on it, which is but it's like Nintendo's cartridge style. 709 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 1: I don't want to freak you out, but have you 710 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 1: ever had anything like, you know, a particle stuck under 711 00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:01,359 Speaker 1: your contact and your eye before that sounds horrible. It's 712 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: the worst. It's not fun, is really not fun. La 713 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: hit me up, Lasa hit Matt up. Yeah. You can 714 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 1: also see stories of people who figured out they were 715 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: wearing as unrealistic as it sounds, double contacts like contacts 716 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:20,839 Speaker 1: over contacts, uh contacts or a horror show for back 717 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 1: in the day, before they got soft contacts, they had 718 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: those where they called gas permeable ones. Those terrified me. 719 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 1: Hard little irises pop um on. So don't bleed hashtag 720 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 1: blessed to have vision, y'all. I don't have to deal 721 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,760 Speaker 1: with any of this stuff. It sounds terrifying. I stuff 722 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 1: is really freaky to a lot of people, to just 723 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: in general, like in movies, you know people getting eyes. Definitely, 724 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: the eye is an extension of your brain. It's just 725 00:45:55,040 --> 00:46:00,359 Speaker 1: sort of out there in the air. That's why. So 726 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 1: keep those, take care of them, treasure them, you know 727 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: what I mean. Of course, they are not necessary to life. 728 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: There many many people who are considered legally blind or 729 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 1: have vision problems who are listening to the show now 730 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: and doing absolutely fine. But you've got to take care 731 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 1: of what you have. I think is the point we're 732 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 1: saying here. Absolutely if you want to read the official 733 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: CDC statement about this the warning, you can find it. 734 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 1: I I found it at a AO dot org. That's 735 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,720 Speaker 1: at least what NBC linked to the title is multi 736 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 1: state cluster of V I, M and G E s blah, 737 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,760 Speaker 1: So you just put that in maybe multi state cluster. 738 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 1: It was issued on January. If you want to read 739 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 1: the official response from Ezra Care, you can find that 740 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 1: at ezrak hare dash info dot com. And if you 741 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 1: want to learn more about this specific type of bacteria, 742 00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 1: you can head on over to the National Library of 743 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 1: met US and where you'll learn that this is the 744 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 1: same bacteria that causes filiculitis when you get into an 745 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: old hot tub if you're rented a place like maybe 746 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 1: a cabin or something like this guy does every once 747 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,240 Speaker 1: in a while the same bacteria. It just doesn't become 748 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: a big deal. Are you building into like a Howard 749 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: used thing? What do you mean we like? Are we 750 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 1: getting too German folk territory? Maybe I'm with you. I'm 751 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: with you. We shall also do a Howard Hughes show 752 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 1: because I've been I've been thinking a lot about this too, 753 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: in places where I'm just gonna be honest, people are 754 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 1: a little more conscious of pandemics have been for a 755 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 1: long time. I mean, how often have you been traveling, 756 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 1: you know, through Atlanta the airport and seeing people from 757 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 1: other countries wearing masks for years? Yeah? Yeah, Atlanta airport 758 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 1: customs is like, hey, everybody, please spit on your hands 759 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: and give them a good wipe before you get to 760 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 1: the front of the line, just to make sure everything's cool. Uh. 761 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 1: This this stuff is important, I would say. Also, dash 762 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,359 Speaker 1: cams are incredibly important. If you can't afford one, they 763 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: are less and less expensive, and they are more and 764 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:13,440 Speaker 1: more crucial, not just when someone is unbalanced and swinging 765 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 1: a pipe at you, but if you happen to get 766 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,799 Speaker 1: an offender bender, etcetera, etcetera. It's great to have them 767 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,960 Speaker 1: on the front and rear of your car just to 768 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 1: be safe. Uh. And then also tell us what you 769 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 1: think about the idea of the extinction. We asked about 770 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:32,800 Speaker 1: this earlier. What animal would you bring back? No rules 771 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 1: Just right? I feel like that's a logo for something 772 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,280 Speaker 1: taine Is that a tagline for a company? No rules 773 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 1: Just Right? I don't know what it is, but definitely 774 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 1: it's something. Okay, Well, what if we add that to 775 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,720 Speaker 1: the extinction. Tell us what animal you would bring back 776 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: and why. We cannot wait to hear your answers. Folks, 777 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,839 Speaker 1: we're going to be coming back to you later in 778 00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:00,880 Speaker 1: the week with some it's out backstage out okay, if 779 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 1: you out back staff, if you own out back steakhouse, 780 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 1: what animals are you bringing back? And what are they 781 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 1: going to be on the menu? Oh gosh, okay. So 782 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,719 Speaker 1: we're going to call it a day or a night 783 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 1: on this one, and we will return in the near future. 784 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 1: In the meantime, you might be saying, I've got some 785 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,920 Speaker 1: stories to share, I've got some leads, I've got some 786 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 1: suggestions for new episodes. We want you to be a 787 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 1: part of the show. We can't wait to hear from you. 788 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 1: We try to be easy to find online. Well, yes, 789 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 1: why not just reach out to us on the internet. 790 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 1: We are conspiracy stuff on Facebook, Twitter and YouTube, Conspiracy 791 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:39,840 Speaker 1: Stuff show on Instagram and TikTok. Yes, we still have 792 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: a book. It's still called stuff. They don't want you 793 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 1: to know. You can still buy it. You can even 794 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 1: get the audio book. Why not do it right now? 795 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 1: And while you're doing that, you know, and walk into 796 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,359 Speaker 1: your favorite local bookstore, something like that. You've got you know, 797 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: your your INSTALLID at dash cam in your car, and 798 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,359 Speaker 1: you just you got something on your mind you want 799 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 1: to tell us you you don't have a time to 800 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 1: to fall for the dopamine cycle of social media. Why 801 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,479 Speaker 1: not just give us a call directly. 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