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Speaker 1: Smell us Now, lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia Metter podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain Time.

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Speaker 2: That's one pm for our friends in Simpsonville, Kentucky on

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Speaker 2: Thursday May twenty ninth, and we're live for Mediater HQ

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Speaker 2: and Bozeman. I'm your host, Spencer, joined today by Cal

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Speaker 2: and Brody. On today's show, we'll talk to Ellen and

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Speaker 2: her mushroom hunting dog, Noodle. Then we'll find out how

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Speaker 2: much Cal and Brody know about their fellow outdoorsman with

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Speaker 2: a game of meat poll. After that, we've got one

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Speaker 2: minute fishing with Christine Fisher in Oklahoma, followed by an

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Speaker 2: interview with brock Wall about the newly formed North American

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Speaker 2: Pronghorn Founder. And finally we've got a hot tip off

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Speaker 2: with a special guest judge about parenting in the outdoors. First,

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Speaker 2: Cow Brody, I don't want a hunting update. I don't

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Speaker 2: want a fishing update from you guys. I want a

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Speaker 2: garden update. How the garden's looking.

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Speaker 3: Garden's in, I mean it's early right.

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Speaker 2: Mm hm. What's going to be different this year? Brody?

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Speaker 3: We do something different every year. I let the boys pick.

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Speaker 3: We're doing some corn this year, which will be new

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Speaker 3: for us.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that was of interest to them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what they wanted.

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Speaker 2: What you leave behind to I just like.

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Speaker 3: Buying the six dollars, like six for three dollars, you know,

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Speaker 3: pack of corn at the grocery store. Okay, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: standard stuff, tomatoes, cucumbers, strawberries, pole beans, lots of herbs,

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Speaker 3: just standard stuff.

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Speaker 2: Feeling optimistic this year?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, I grow an awesome garden everythore.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't like just go to hell when you leave

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Speaker 2: for a week to go fishing at Fort Pack or something.

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Speaker 3: No, no, I just water the shit out of it

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Speaker 3: and then put malts down and it's good, like as

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Speaker 3: long as it's later. If you did that this time

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Speaker 3: of year, you'd beat trouble. But in August.

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Speaker 2: It's cal Give us a garden update. How are things looking.

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Speaker 1: We had a real serious talk, the lady and I

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Speaker 1: and and came to the conclusion that it's just not

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Speaker 1: worth doing a garden this year.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, because of lots.

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Speaker 1: Of overlapping travel like nobody and you know, it's just

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Speaker 1: not a high producer anyway with our setup. So we

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Speaker 1: have garlic and onions. Okay, yeah, but I my mom

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Speaker 1: is if anybody needs a sweet little farm outside of

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Speaker 1: the Billings, Montana area. The folks are selling out ninety

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Speaker 1: acres irrigated right outside of Shepherd. It's a sweet spot.

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Speaker 1: Kill geese there all the time.

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Speaker 2: How many trees around this property?

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Speaker 4: Trees?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tree stands, well, a bunch of cottonwoods okay, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh and would they fit it with a tree stand

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Speaker 2: fit in one of them? Oh yeah, okay yeah.

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Speaker 1: And you you would attract wildlife because it is like

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Speaker 1: zero habitat anywhere around there because it is just wall

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Speaker 1: the wall farming good sales. But yeah, great spot. And

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Speaker 1: if it wasn't just weren't so many people, I'd might

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Speaker 1: be buying that thing. Anyway. She's got a tremendous garden,

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Speaker 1: always has.

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Speaker 2: And comes with the farm, comes with the farm.

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Speaker 1: And now it's it's pretty funny because it's just like

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Speaker 1: all the volunteer stuff that's coming up. And so we

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Speaker 1: picked cilantro and let us and uh hit the asparagus patch.

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Speaker 1: And this is where the conflict comes in. Well, we're

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Speaker 1: pulling asparagus right because I'm like, yeah, you guys aren't

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Speaker 1: Mom's like, what the hell are you doing? You gotta

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Speaker 1: cut that off beneath the soil line.

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Speaker 2: Or it won't grow back, okay.

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Speaker 1: And I was kind of like, well, you guys are leaving,

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Speaker 1: what's the anyway? But then hop on a plane, go

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Speaker 1: to Wisconsin, see bubbly Doug. And out there at the

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Speaker 1: Durham farm they have a tremendous asparagus patch. And I

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Speaker 1: notice that Doug's lovely wife, Trish aka Trish the Dish

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Speaker 1: as I like to call her, who else nobody. I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to establish it though, And I mean, she is

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Speaker 1: sure that that Doug knows that as well, and he does.

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Speaker 1: But amazing asparagus patch and none of them are cut

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Speaker 1: the what's the deal? Aren't you supposed to? And She's like, yep,

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Speaker 1: you are. I just never do and look at the results.

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Speaker 2: I just saw a Facebook argument about this, like last

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Speaker 2: week about the same thing. Someone was mad at their

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Speaker 2: neighbor for stealing from their ditch asparagus patch and doing

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Speaker 2: it the wrong way. Well, not only were they thiefing it,

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Speaker 2: seemed like in the comments, folks were mostly on their

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Speaker 2: and then there were other people saying it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: Never noticed the difference.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's foraging etiquette rules, right that we

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Speaker 1: should all live by. Hmmm, because if done properly, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be their year after year after year.

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Speaker 2: You hear the same thing said with moral mushrooms. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that like you're supposed to cut instead of pull. That

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all the stumps in the ground, you can.

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Speaker 2: Pull those things right out of the ground. That's like

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Speaker 2: plucking an apple off of a tree. You're not you're

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Speaker 2: just taking the apple. Even if you pull the whole

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Speaker 2: thing out, you're not taking the whole tree away. They're

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Speaker 2: all that my celium underneath is still going to produce

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Speaker 2: a mushroom if it wants to the next year. That

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Speaker 2: little stump is going to help or hurt anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they they'll grow in clumps, right, So I've

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Speaker 1: like gone back and picked the same spot. Sure, during

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Speaker 1: that like that same like week long period of real

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Speaker 1: fruit harvest, right, and have seeing plenty of mushrooms growing

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Speaker 1: up next to stumps. But I know, I know, you're right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's hard to break that. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: also a little cleaner if you if you take the

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Speaker 2: whole thing off, like if you if you pull it

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Speaker 2: out of the ground, you're gonna get get in yeah,

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Speaker 2: like five to ten percent more mushroom. But you may

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Speaker 2: trim that off at home anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then in the bag that dirty stumps rolling around, Sure,

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Speaker 1: and it's getting in the gills of the mushrooms, and

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Speaker 1: it's just more clean.

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Speaker 2: Plus you can look at it two ways. Either you

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Speaker 2: are letting other folks know, because I'll come across someone

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Speaker 2: else's morale stumps, which or damn it, they beat me here.

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Speaker 1: It's like coming across a giant surface poop with tons

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Speaker 3: Big gut pile.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, fresh boot tracks that come in from some

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Speaker 1: snow on the ground to set the scene. Hell of

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Speaker 3: One set of tracks, and you're like, that whole spot's blown.

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Speaker 2: When I find those stumps, someone else has bested me.

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Speaker 2: They've got me there, But now I know there were

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's like people who have to put a

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Speaker 2: Speaking of foraging, let's get to our first interview. Joining

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Speaker 2: us on the line now is Ellen and her mushroom

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Speaker 2: hunting dog, Noodle. Ellen and Noodle, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much for having us.

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Speaker 2: First thing, Ellen tell us about Noodle. How old is she?

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Speaker 2: What kind of dog is she? Where'd you get her?

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Speaker 6: So?

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Speaker 5: Noodle is four and a half years old. I got her. Actually,

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Speaker 5: it was a long story of kind of fate how

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Speaker 5: I ended up with her, but I ultimately picked her

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Speaker 5: up at a children's rodeo in northern California.

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Speaker 7: She's a half lab half.

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Speaker 5: Border colleague, as far as I know, from an unwanted litter.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and we can see Noodle. Noodle is with Ellen

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Speaker 2: right now for the interview. You should go watch this episode.

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Speaker 2: You'll get to see the dog we're talking about. Plus

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Speaker 2: Phil Phil has some photos of Noodle forging. Now, how

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Speaker 2: have you ever met another mushroom hunting dog in your life?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 5: I've spoken to a couple people online who are maybe

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Speaker 5: training or trying to. And I actually used to live

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Speaker 5: in Italy where a lot of people use truffle dogs.

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Speaker 5: So I was inspired by that, Oh you want your ball, huh?

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Speaker 5: And so that did inspire me. But I haven't met

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Speaker 5: anybody in person yet. I'd love to meet up with

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Speaker 5: somebody else who has a mushroom dog though.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and how long has Noodle had this special talent?

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Speaker 5: So I taught her about three years ago. She was

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Speaker 2: And tell us about the training process for teaching Noodle

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Speaker 2: to find mushrooms.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so there's a lot of info out there on

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Speaker 5: kind of proper scent training protocol. I'll just say I

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Speaker 5: didn't do any of that. I just kind of winged

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Speaker 7: One day.

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Speaker 5: I pointed to a Morrell and I just said, where's

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Speaker 5: the mushroom? She sniffed it. I immediately threw a stick

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Speaker 5: for her, because she is with dogs, she's just absolutely

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Speaker 5: fetched crazy. She will die trying to get that ball.

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Speaker 5: So I threw a stick for her. I called her

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Speaker 5: back to the same morele, pointed at it through the

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Speaker 5: she really, within fifteen minutes had just cracked the code.

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Speaker 5: And she was off running two hundred feet away, just

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Speaker 1: That's my labrador brain right there.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: What was the most challenging part of teaching Noodle to

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Speaker 2: find mushrooms?

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Speaker 5: You know, honestly, it was surprisingly easy. But I'd say

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Speaker 5: at the beginning it was a little hard to get

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Speaker 5: her to differentiate, okay, which mushrooms are good, which mushrooms

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Speaker 7: But she did.

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Speaker 5: I mean she figured it out quickly. It's like, if

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Speaker 5: she sniffed the wrong kind of mushroom, I'm like, no,

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Speaker 5: that's not a mushroom. You don't get a stick. So

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Speaker 5: she figured it out fast.

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Speaker 2: Now, in most videos I see Noodle finding morale mushrooms.

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Speaker 2: What are the other good mushrooms that she'll help you find.

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Speaker 5: So she has about seven varieties. We do morels. We

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Speaker 5: taught her Chantrell's afterwards, then matsutake. We do Porcini handicaps.

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Speaker 5: She taught herself, which was pretty annoying because Russia. She

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Speaker 5: saw me collecting them and then she was like, I

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Speaker 5: want to get in on this and started trampling them.

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Speaker 5: But we also do black trumpets.

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Speaker 2: If I didn't say that one, Okay, it sounds like

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Speaker 2: Noodle has taught herself this skill for the most part. Now,

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Speaker 2: how does she alert you when she finds a good mushroom?

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Speaker 5: You know that position that dogs get in when they're

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Speaker 5: waiting for you to throw the ball and they're kind

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Speaker 5: of crouched down just at attention. She just crouches by

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Speaker 5: And if I don't see it, I'll often say show me,

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Speaker 2: That's great. Now morel's are not toxic for dogs. Does

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Speaker 2: Okay, good. Good for you guys, Good for Noodle. If

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Speaker 5: We've got an Instagram page. It's really good Noodle and

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Speaker 2: One of my favorite follows on social media is Ellen

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Speaker 2: and Noodle. Thank you guys for joining us. Please tell

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Speaker 2: Noodle she's a good girl and we're very impressed with

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Speaker 5: Thanks so much for having us.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. That's sweet. Cal I love snort snort. It's

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Speaker 1: Good hunting dog can hunt anything, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'd like to see you teach Snort. It sounds

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Speaker 1: Really, she wants food at the end of the day.

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Speaker 1: But man, during a hunt, you can't hardly touch her.

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Speaker 3: Her praise, her praise is just fine.

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Speaker 2: And a bird right her alone?

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Speaker 1: Oh she wants that bird so bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right. Our next segment is meat Pole.

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Speaker 3: Say if Sully and meat fool is to take my pole,

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Speaker 3: Welcome to meat lady. I got a game something.

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Speaker 2: Meat Pole is a test of how much you know

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Speaker 2: about your fellow hunters and anglers. I surveyed five hundred

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Speaker 2: meat Eater listeners about the outdoors. Your job is to

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Speaker 2: predict their answers. There are three questions. Whoever is closest

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Speaker 3: I'm not fall what if we both get two points.

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Speaker 2: There's only three questions, so that won't happen. One of

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Speaker 1: I am not a good via washer, never ever, ever

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Speaker 2: Okay, that doesn't surprise me, but.

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Speaker 1: Part of my Memorial Day clean up was vacuuming out

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Speaker 2: I bet I go through a car wash four or

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Speaker 2: five times a year, not that often. I'm conscious of

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Speaker 2: But if that thing just looks like I drove it

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Speaker 1: No, it's not yet, I mean, but there's also like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that stuff like you're driving around, say out

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Speaker 2: Hey, Phil, do you have any bet of music to

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Speaker 2: play while we uh, while we do this?

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Speaker 4: Nothing original?

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Speaker 2: Oh that's okay. Do you boys have an answer for

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Speaker 3: The one came out, okay, all right, so go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Brody says seventy one percent. Cal says forty one percent.

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Speaker 2: The correct answer is thirty point five percent. So Cal

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Speaker 3: Their dirt bags? Not washing their stuff in.

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Speaker 2: The last month. One study showed that the average person

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Speaker 3: Whoah, I just paid my boys to detail my truck.

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Speaker 2: Oh are they are are they can I hire them to?

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Speaker 3: Well, how much you want to?

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Speaker 2: Would you charge that?

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Speaker 3: The charity of the job is going to be based

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Speaker 3: I was a little underwhelmed and I had to up

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Speaker 2: About fifty bucks?

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Speaker 3: They split fifty Okay?

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Speaker 2: Did it seem like a fifty dollars job? Do you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? It was worth it to me. I didn't want

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Speaker 4: Uh, Montana Hunter said twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: Oh, well done, Montana Hunter, you were two percentage points off.

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Speaker 2: All right? Question two? What percentage of meat eater listeners

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Speaker 2: have ever bitten into a BBI? What percentage of meat

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Speaker 3: You're talking like any kind of pellet, like not a bebe?

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Speaker 2: Break you phil That That ups? That makes is so

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Speaker 2: much better what we're doing here. What percentage of meat

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Speaker 2: eater listeners have ever bitten into a bb cal? How

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Speaker 2: many bebes in your lifetime? I'm gonna guess like five

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Speaker 1: Oh, buddy, I got a two cracked teeth in my

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Speaker 2: Oh, Yeah, how many what's the number?

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Speaker 1: I thought that sounded dramatic. But it's definitely higher than twenty.

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Speaker 2: Do you think you've gotten better or worse in your

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Speaker 2: lifetime about cleaning bebies out of stelf?

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Speaker 1: Well, technology is a mother scratcher. Number nine tongues down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, holy cow, dude buried like oh, in the bottom

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Speaker 3: find that's probably swallowed. Yeah, several of them. Yeah, without

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Speaker 2: How about you, brody, how many bebes have you been into?

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Speaker 3: Dozens? Like, and I mean like there's degrees of biting too.

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Speaker 3: It's like, oh I feel it and I just spit

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Speaker 3: come down on it with both molars. That's rough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm at single digits, but it's because one, like

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Speaker 2: never gonna let that happen again. I'm gonna clean these

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Speaker 2: A bb is never gonna make it onto my dinner plate.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they just find a way in there.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you get the one that we're like it,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost like it's like as shocking as a

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Speaker 3: bad electric shot. Yeah you know, Oh yeah, it goes

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Speaker 3: all the way down your Spine's a meal.

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Speaker 2: So what percentage of meat eater listeners have ever bitten

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Speaker 2: into a bb You boys, ready, sure, yep, go ahead

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Speaker 2: and reveal your answers. We have Brody saying eighty eight percent,

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Speaker 2: Cal says sixty three percent. One of you is within

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Speaker 2: three points of the correct answer. The correct answer is

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Speaker 2: sixty five point nine percent. Cow is on fire man

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Speaker 2: of people here, eighty percent of Americans over the age

446
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Speaker 2: of forty have had at least one cracked or fractured

447
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Speaker 2: tooth in their lifetime. The most common foods that cracked

448
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Speaker 2: teeth are hard candy, nuts, ice, popcorn kernels, and bone

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Speaker 2: in meat. That study I was looking at never said

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Speaker 2: anything about pellets, But I imagine our audience is very

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Speaker 2: familiar with that feeling you boys are describing.

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Speaker 8: I think.

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Speaker 1: You overestimated how many bird hunters we have.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But ducks, pheasants, turkeys, I mean they're all birds. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I know, it's just like I'm a little disappointed.

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Speaker 2: Question three, we have.

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Speaker 4: The broke three gunners saying sixty seven, So good job.

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Speaker 2: Damn one percentage point off. Here's question three. We'll see

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Speaker 2: if cal can get the clean sweep and make Brody

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Speaker 2: run around the off is naked, as is tradition when

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Speaker 2: you get skunked naked? What percentage of meat eater listeners

463
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Speaker 2: have fishing bait in their fridge or freezer right now?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I can tell you, what do you do?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 2: What you got leach in the garden?

467
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Speaker 3: Got some crawlers and leeches?

468
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Speaker 2: How are you going to spend those?

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Speaker 3: What do you mean spend them?

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Speaker 2: Like we're going to use fishing currency. What are you

471
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Speaker 2: gonna do with them?

472
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Speaker 3: Catch a bunch of walleye? Hope, maybe some perch.

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Speaker 2: What percentage of meat eater listeners have fishing bait in

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Speaker 2: their fridge or freezer right now? I have some deer

475
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Speaker 2: liver that you're marked, uh for some catfish on the

476
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Speaker 2: Yellowstone River later this summer, So I've got some in

477
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Speaker 2: my freezer. How about you Cal? Any bait in your

478
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Speaker 2: home right now? Staying cold?

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Speaker 1: You already asked the question, but I feel like old

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Speaker 1: meat it doesn't qualify for this question or shouldn't.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I think folks would know if they put it

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Speaker 2: in their freezer for the purpose of catching a fish.

483
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Speaker 2: They probably answered, honestly, what percentage of meat eater listeners

484
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Speaker 2: have fishing bait in their fridge or freezer? Right now? Okay, boys, ready,

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Speaker 2: go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Cal saying

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Speaker 2: thirty eight and Brody's saying fifty. It's a clean sweep

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Speaker 2: for Cal. The correct answer is thirty four zero point

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Speaker 2: nine percent. Cal dominated today very close on every one

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Speaker 2: of these questions. He's declared it before. He's a man

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Speaker 2: of the people, but this this game really proves it.

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Speaker 1: Phil Ti Sonar people, will you take that Spencer Newheart soundclip?

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Speaker 1: That might be the nicest thing he ever says about

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Speaker 1: man memorialize that someplace.

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Speaker 2: American spend one point five billion dollars on live bait

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Speaker 2: and natural bait each year. That's fifty percent more than

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Speaker 2: they spend on lures and flies and twenty percent less

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Speaker 2: than they spend on boat fuel. Bait accounts for about

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Speaker 2: thirteen percent of all phishing related expenses.

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Speaker 4: Ryan Carl since in thirty four point five damn.

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Speaker 2: Point four percentage points off. Thirty five percent of people

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Speaker 2: who are listening to this show have bait in their

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Speaker 2: fridge or freezer right now?

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Speaker 8: All right?

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Speaker 2: Moving on, Our next segment is one minute Fishing chousing bait.

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Speaker 2: We'll do you. I'll find out in a second.

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Speaker 8: Go ahead, make my casts.

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Speaker 1: Bread in a ringer here?

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Speaker 2: Didn't you we were trying to. One Minute Fishing is

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Speaker 2: where we go live to someone who's fishing and they

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Speaker 2: have one minute to catch a fish, and if they're successful,

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Speaker 2: we'll make a five hundred dollars donation to a conservation group.

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Speaker 2: This week, our angler is Christine Fisher aka Midwest fisher

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Speaker 2: Gal on Instagram. She's on ten Killer Lake in Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: and fishing for a donation to the first Wisconsin Chapter

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Speaker 2: of Muskie's Ink. Christine, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 7: Hey guys, how's it going.

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Speaker 2: We're doing good. Christine is pre fishing for a tournament today,

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Speaker 2: so tell us about the tournament that you'll be competing in.

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Speaker 9: So I am practicing for the bass Master Kayak Open

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Speaker 9: here on Lake Tenchio and Oklahoma. I think it's the

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Speaker 9: third open of the year. I've only fished here one

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Speaker 9: time before.

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Speaker 7: We had a.

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Speaker 9: Championship here last year. Different time of year, but this

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Speaker 9: lake is gorgeous, has big small mouth, large mouth. I've

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Speaker 9: had a pretty good bite going with the fish. The

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Speaker 9: lake is about seven ft flooded. The fish are kind

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Speaker 9: of spread out their post spawn, so bine stars few

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Speaker 9: and far between. But when you can get them to eat,

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Speaker 9: they're pretty pretty good sized.

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Speaker 2: Okay, tell us about your kayak setup that you got there.

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Speaker 9: I'm fishing out of a Hobie Pro Angler fourteen three sixty.

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Speaker 7: I'm keating. I got a little motor on the back.

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Speaker 9: Because you know, we get lazy in our old age.

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Speaker 9: I have two low ranch grafts up front. I've got

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Speaker 9: about fifteen rods with me right now. I've got a

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Speaker 9: few different patterns going and trying to just break down

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Speaker 9: this lake. I didn't get a ton of don't get

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Speaker 9: a ton of practice.

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Speaker 7: On this one. But yeah, it's a pretty good setup.

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Speaker 7: I love it. It's comfortable. I can stand up.

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Speaker 9: I usually stand and fish and use these two little

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Speaker 9: foot pedals right here for control steering, so I can

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Speaker 9: set my motor on you a mile and a half

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Speaker 9: an hour stand up, use punched in power fish and

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Speaker 9: run a patterns.

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Speaker 7: It's pretty effective for me.

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Speaker 2: Amazing little boat. Now, Christine is fished in one hundred

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Speaker 2: and seventy one kayak bass tournaments. She's placed in the

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Speaker 2: top ten and sixty of them and took first place

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Speaker 2: in ten of them. So Christine, give some advice to

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Speaker 2: folks listening who want to catch more fish from a kayak.

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Speaker 9: So the best advice I can give you got to

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Speaker 9: get out there and do it first and foremost kayaks

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Speaker 9: are great because it forces you to kind of really

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Speaker 9: learn an area.

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Speaker 7: So I always advocate for kayak fishing.

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Speaker 9: But I always tell people fish your confidence, fish your strength.

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Speaker 7: If you hear the doc talk that people.

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Speaker 9: Are crushing them on a crank a on a square bill,

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Speaker 9: and you don't necessarily love throwing a square bill, you're

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Speaker 9: not gonna catch those fitsch. So I always tell people

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Speaker 9: when it's tournament time, when it comes down to putting

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Speaker 9: fish in the boat, you need to fish your strength

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Speaker 9: no matter where you're at, Just try to find water

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Speaker 9: that suits your strength.

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Speaker 7: And because at the end.

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Speaker 9: Of the day, fish and how you like to fish,

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Speaker 9: that makes it a lot more fun too.

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Speaker 2: Good advice. Now for the one minute of fishing. What

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Speaker 2: kind of area are you in and what kind of

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Speaker 2: blue or are you throwing?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 9: So, like I said, my my big small mouth and

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Speaker 9: large amount bai is few and far between. So I

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Speaker 9: came out to this little little island out here in

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Speaker 9: the middle of the lake, and I found some scattered bait.

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Speaker 7: Then there's some white bass. Actually caught two of them

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Speaker 7: while you guys were talking.

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Speaker 9: So I'm just I really wanna Yeah, I want to

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Speaker 9: be able to catch just a fish here. So I've

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Speaker 9: got a little little paddle tail swim bait and there's

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Speaker 9: a scattered bait, and there's some white bass kind of

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Speaker 9: cruising in the area.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if I can do it in a minute,

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Speaker 7: but I'm.

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Speaker 2: Gonna try, Okay, and standing or sitting.

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna sit because if I stand and I'm setting

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Speaker 9: you guys down on my kayak, ninety percent sure my

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Speaker 9: phone a goal in the water. So we don't want

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Speaker 9: to donate at the drink. I've done that a lot,

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Speaker 9: not today.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Is it intimidating to know that all of your tournament

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Speaker 1: experience is culminating right now and meat eater one minute fishing,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna lie.

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Speaker 9: I usually don't cave under pressure, but I'm feeling the

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Speaker 9: pressure on this one. You guys, I want I want

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Speaker 9: the Wisconsin Musky guys to get get a little donation.

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Speaker 7: Because I fish.

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Speaker 9: Musky's up there all the time, and I know, I mean,

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Speaker 9: this is more important than we win in this tournament.

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Speaker 7: Honestly, in my opinion, I love.

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Speaker 1: That attitude for you.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Christine, your one minute of fishing starts as

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Speaker 2: soon as you make your first cast.

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Speaker 7: Okay, okay, let's see.

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Speaker 1: Pick your spot.

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Speaker 2: All right, she's made cast. Got an interesting perspective here.

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Speaker 2: I've never watched someone fish from the bottom of feet before.

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Speaker 7: Don't don't put this on feet finder, Christine.

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Speaker 2: You're fifteen seconds in doing a little paddle tail. There's

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Speaker 2: some overcast today. Conditions look good, maybe a slight breeze.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it.

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Speaker 2: Thirty seconds to go, she's gonna make another cast.

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Speaker 1: Got time for another cast.

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Speaker 10: I love it.

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Speaker 1: That's some crucial mental game right there that you keep

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Speaker 1: playing it.

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Speaker 2: Verdian recast twenty seconds ago.

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Speaker 7: Christine, my heart's beating.

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Speaker 2: Ten seconds left. Need one white bass.

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Speaker 7: Oh they just came after this.

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Speaker 2: Oh, she had a bite right at the end. Your

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Speaker 2: one minute is up. Tell us what happened there, Christine.

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Speaker 9: Man, I had a little group of them right there,

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Speaker 9: and yeah, I didn't catch them.

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Speaker 7: They came after it.

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Speaker 9: But like I said, I've caught two here in the

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Speaker 9: last couple of minutes. I think, I think, I I

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Speaker 9: think they got smart to what I was doing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, they knew you were now on the show and

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Speaker 2: not just pre fishing for the show.

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Speaker 7: Sang thanks.

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Speaker 9: I've probably just thrown that I've been catching these big

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Speaker 9: small mouth on a big seven inch swim bait and

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Speaker 9: under skipping in her docks and around some what a cover.

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Speaker 7: I probably just should have rolled the that I got.

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Speaker 2: One last question, Christine. Ten Killer Lake is known for

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Speaker 2: a mythical freshwater octopus. Have you seen any evidence of

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Speaker 2: the freshwater octopus this week?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 9: But I think isn't a unagi? Is an octopus? Isn't

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Speaker 9: that Japanese unagi? That's one of my favorite, like shashimi things.

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Speaker 9: So if I do find okay, let you guys know

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Speaker 9: how that takes.

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Speaker 2: But I'd love to know. Not seeing any okay, the

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Speaker 2: ten Killer octopus continues to be elusive. All right, Thank

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Speaker 2: you for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Christine.

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Speaker 2: Good luck in the tournament this week.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever seen a kayak like that?

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Speaker 1: Man intense, like an arms race of kayaking?

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Speaker 3: Like all thanks, it's yeah, it's impressive. I mean there's

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Speaker 3: guys that are like doing offshore blue water fishing in

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Speaker 3: those things big time. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're halfway through the show. Let's take a

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Speaker 2: break for some listener feedback. Phil, what's the chat have

661
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Speaker 2: to say?

662
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:29,959
Speaker 5: Uh?

663
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Leland our guys, says cal What are you looking

664
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 4: forward to most about BHA Rendezvous?

665
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 5: Oh?

666
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got rendezvous coming up starting. I'm gonna be

667
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: there all week. But it's June like fourteen, fifteen sixteen

668
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: and Missoula, Montana.

669
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 3: Yep.

670
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: Great people, fantastic people. We got a bunch of stuff

671
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: to recap. We gotta keep folks motivated on public lands.

672
00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: We got corner crossing cases is getting revived at this point.

673
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like we should be thanking iron

674
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: bar holdings because they just keep it. Yeah, because now

675
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: it's going to the highest court in the land, which

676
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: means corner crossing is going to be legal everywhere for

677
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: certain and it's gonna be on their dime, which is great.

678
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: What's kind of the general temperature on that right now?

679
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: Are people optimistic that they're going to side with the

680
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: hunters and public land users?

681
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: Well, you know, politics shouldn't come into play and stuff

682
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: like this, right, Like a judge is supposed to be impartial.

683
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: But I think that is the idea is that they're

684
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: going to lean way more conservative and they're going to

685
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: somehow turn it into a private property rights thing, where

686
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it just is not right. It's like you're

687
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: stepping from public land to public land. There's a couple

688
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: of bad actors out there that are trying to monopolize

689
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: public land through the use of strategically purchased private land.

690
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: But man, I feel really good about it. I mean,

691
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: we have two federal court decisions.

692
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing is, like the Supreme Court has

693
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 3: to find a good reason to not agree with the

694
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 3: decisions that were already made. Yeah.

695
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: I think there's a high likelihood that the Supreme Court

696
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: is going to be like, this is not worth our

697
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: time or the taxpayer's time to review this. We defer

698
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: to the lower court.

699
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 2: So you expect there to be some chatter about that

700
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: at the bha Rendez vis Yeah.

701
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: I mean we'll have some panels on all the policy stuff,

702
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: and that's a huge reason that people show up. Me

703
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 1: say like here, you get to follow your cash in person, right,

704
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: become a member. This is what you're paying for, this

705
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: is what we're working on. Here's all the issues that

706
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: we're working across in North America. Plus there's really good

707
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: food and just it's it's a refreshing kind of refill

708
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: your cup type of experience. It's not draining like some

709
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: of these events that we all put together are so.

710
00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: And Missoula's a good place to be in the summer.

711
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: Zula's a great place to be in the summer.

712
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: What else you got?

713
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 3: Phil H. Spencer.

714
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 4: I don't know if you watched the show last week,

715
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 4: but there was some debate about if they prefer the

716
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 4: free Wheel and Yanni show or the professional, you know

717
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 4: show that that you run. We've got a lot of

718
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 4: people asking for for random for hunting stories, for meandering

719
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 4: hunting stories, anything new you haven't shared yet.

720
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to balance the shows out. You know,

721
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: if we sat around and I don't want us to

722
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 2: just talk about hunting stories every week. So I'm trying

723
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 2: to be the ying to Yanni's yen.

724
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 4: And I think I think that's good. I think I

725
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 4: think it should be a different show, different flavor based on.

726
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 3: Who's host is.

727
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, Yanni is back in one of

728
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 2: the host chairs next week. He's on a hunt right now.

729
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 2: Some ex so expect some hunting stories then. But in

730
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 2: the meantime, Cal Brody anything to share.

731
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 3: No, man, hunting season's over for me for a while.

732
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 3: It's fishing season now, garden season.

733
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 8: Yeah.

734
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 4: On that note, Sebastian says, two days left of turkey

735
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 4: hunting in New York, running gun or sitting Wait.

736
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: Go find them, Sebastian, New York's a big.

737
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 3: State, Like, gotta know a little more.

738
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're already on birds, I would say

739
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: sit and wait, especially this time here and things just

740
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: are slowed down. Yeah, if you can get them to

741
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: talk to you one time, I'm like, Okay, they know

742
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: we're here. It's kind of like the best best move

743
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 1: you can make.

744
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: So but this late in the year, there's probably a

745
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: lot of vegetation for you to be uh sneak sneaking

746
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 2: around in what.

747
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 4: Else you got For another one from Sebastian, any update

748
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 4: on the venison beef jerky contest.

749
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, kind of. It's probably not gonna happen, Sebastian.

750
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: The suits here at Meat Eater said we shouldn't do that.

751
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: We shouldn't invite folks to send us food that we're

752
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 2: then going to eat, because someone's gonna get poisoned and

753
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: then we're gonna wind up in a lawsuit. So I

754
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: think we're maybe working on a pivot. I pounded the

755
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 2: table hard for us to do this. The idea being

756
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: that we're gonna, you know, bring in thirty venison jerkeys

757
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: from across the country from listeners. We're going to eat them,

758
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 2: we're going to rank the top three, we're going to

759
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 2: hand out some big prizes. But the suit says, no,

760
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: you're not. So that's where we're at right now, Sebastian.

761
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: Maybe later this year, maybe twenty twenty six. That's that's

762
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: your update.

763
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 4: Russell says he's going out for Idaho Spring Bear June

764
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 4: thirteenth to fourteenth, a little later than usual. Should I

765
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 4: not use the distress call? Or yeah? Should I not

766
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 4: use the distress call? Or stay with it? He says

767
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 4: he always spots and stocks, but this lady's looking for

768
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 4: a cruising boar cal Man.

769
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that.

770
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: Believe me.

771
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: I don't plug stuff just to plug stuff, but that

772
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: phelps fawn and distress call. And you just make it

773
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: sound like in your mind you want to crying human infant.

774
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 3: Like sick and dying human infant.

775
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and you gotta have that.

776
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: Do you have that in your mind as you're hitting

777
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: that call, and you are not going to see like

778
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: a crazy amount of action, but it weeds out smaller bears.

779
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 1: So you're either going to get a big sal or

780
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: very confident and should be large.

781
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 3: Bore happening right in your face too.

782
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I'm not afraid to scream

783
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: on that thing.

784
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 8: Love it.

785
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: Find yourself a sick baby Russell.

786
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 4: All right, one one more quick one? Cody can film

787
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 4: make a new drop for the trivia tiebreaker question. I

788
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 4: think you're a You're a plant from Spencer Cody because

789
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 4: he's also asked for that, and I think I've got

790
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 4: I've got some spare time in the next couple of weeks,

791
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 4: I'll try to knock one out.

792
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: Okay, yea. The people are looking forward to it now.

793
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: He's made a promise on air so it's going to happen,

794
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: all right. Moving on, joining us on the line, last

795
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 2: is brock Wall, the founder of the newly formed North

796
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 2: American Pronghorn Foundation. Brock Welcome to the show, thy.

797
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 11: Guys, Thanks for thanks for having me. I'm really excited

798
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 11: to be here.

799
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we are too. Then, the North American Pronghorn Foundation

800
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 2: is the only conservation group that's dedicated to antelope. Tell

801
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 2: us about how and why it was formed.

802
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 11: Sure.

803
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 9: Yeah.

804
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 11: At first, I would like to say too that there

805
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 11: are a couple of state based conservation groups dedicated to

806
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 11: pronghorn in Arizona and South Dakota or the two that

807
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 11: I know of, but we are indeed the only nationwide

808
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 11: one that is focused on pronghorn throughout North America the

809
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 11: entire continent. So I just wanted to make sure that

810
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 11: those those state based groups get some some love there.

811
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 11: But we really got started on Randy Newberg's Hunt talk form.

812
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 11: There was just kind of a conversation that took place.

813
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 11: Some some guys are asking why one doesn't exist, and

814
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 11: a few of us got together and said, well, there's

815
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 11: no better time to start than now. So we file

816
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 11: articles of incorporation and in twenty twenty four and got

817
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 11: started and we really felt like, you know, there's a

818
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 11: variety of reasons in terms of our why, but you know,

819
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 11: everything from you know, pronghorn populations just struggling a little bit,

820
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 11: you know, habitat problems, migration issues, to also just you know,

821
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 11: the with the amount of development that's going on and

822
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 11: the amount of pressure that you know, this Western hunting

823
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 11: is receiving, there's also just this need to get more

824
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 11: resources on the ground, whether you know, whether that's the

825
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 11: pronghorn or sage grouse or mule deer. I mean, there's

826
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 11: a whole host of species that benefit from the same

827
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 11: landscapes that pronghorn do. So we really just felt like

828
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 11: there was just no reason not to have this group

829
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 11: and no reason not to get it started.

830
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: And what are the current initiatives of the North American

831
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: Pronghorn Foundation.

832
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 11: Well, right now, you know, we're still new, so we're

833
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 11: just just over a month old. We went live on

834
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 11: April twenty first here of this year, and so so

835
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 11: far the things that we've been focused on are trying

836
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 11: to get some policy comments out there in for some

837
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 11: BLM style for some migration corridor designations, and then we're

838
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 11: also working on trying to set up a fencing project

839
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 11: here in northeast Montana. Not one hundred percent sure if

840
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 11: that's gonna all come together here this year, but we're

841
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 11: super excited about it because we're able to, you know,

842
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 11: get some local stakeholders on the ground, both landowners, other

843
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 11: conservation groups, and utilize GPS caller data from pronghorn in

844
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 11: that exact area. So we're really hoping to bring that

845
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 11: added value to that pronghorn research in cooperation with a

846
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 11: bunch of partners. And then you know, really, I don't

847
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 11: know that this will be really qualify as an initiative,

848
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 11: but really, membership growth is a big priority right now.

849
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 11: You know, we have some really lofty goals and we'd

850
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 11: really like to be able to do some big things

851
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 11: around around the entire West, and in order to do that,

852
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 11: we're going to need a lot of money. And so

853
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 11: membership growth is really something that we're focused on and

854
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 11: really trying to grow that membership so we can take

855
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 11: that money, turn it around and put it right on

856
00:41:59,520 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 11: the ground.

857
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 2: Data shows that prong horn populations are down about twenty

858
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 2: percent across the entire continent over the last few years.

859
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 2: Talk to us about what the greatest challenges they're facing

860
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 2: is and why that might be.

861
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 11: Yeah, there's a few things that pronghorn are really struggling with,

862
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 11: and one is winters, obviously, and I think, you know,

863
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 11: you probably wouldn't be correct to say that, well, there's

864
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 11: not much we're going to be able to do about winters,

865
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 11: and that's true. However, you know, it's when we highlight

866
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 11: the fact that winters are increasing mortality. There's a couple

867
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 11: of variables there that I think are really important to

868
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 11: point out as to what is making those winters, you know,

869
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 11: so hard on pronghorn. And certainly, you know, extreme winters

870
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 11: with a lot of snowpack, there's gonna be some die

871
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 11: off and you can't really do anything about that. However,

872
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 11: you know, we have examples from other research data, from

873
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 11: observational data, anecdotal data from landowners where they're noticing that

874
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 11: during those storms, those those pronghorn are trying to migrate

875
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 11: and they're getting stuck in certain areas because offences or

876
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 11: man made barriers, or another element would be you know,

877
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 11: maybe their winter range habitat where or they're only planning

878
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 11: or intending on being at in the winter is degraded

879
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 11: so much or non existent that you know, they just

880
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 11: don't have the nutrition on the landscape to make it

881
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 11: through that winter. And you know, related to that, I mean,

882
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 11: something that's really interesting to think about when we think

883
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 11: about habitat degradation for pronghorn is that in the last

884
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 11: twenty years. So I think it was the USDA or

885
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 11: maybe it was the USGS that came out with a

886
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 11: study and they looked at sage brush from the years

887
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 11: two thousand and one to twenty twenty, and over that

888
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 11: twenty year time period, they found that western United States

889
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 11: was losing a million, just over a million acres of

890
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 11: sage brush per year. And that's I mean, that's prime

891
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 11: forage for pronghorn, it's prime winter habitat, it's prime falling habitat.

892
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 11: So you know, it's things like that that we would

893
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 11: really like to be able to throw some money on,

894
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 11: throw some some volunteer power on, and some attention to

895
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 11: to to really get things turned the other direction.

896
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 2: Now, I saw that your first policy action was to

897
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: support the removal of feral horses from Blm Land in Wyoming.

898
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: Tell us about that.

899
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 11: Yeah, so I know this can be a controversial issue

900
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 11: and We certainly don't want to be insensitive to the

901
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 11: folks that are really big horse fans. I mean, we

902
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 11: have nothing against horses. My uh, I grew up with horses.

903
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 11: My mom was was really big into horses, and so

904
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 11: I'm used to being around them. But you know, it's

905
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 11: pretty hard to deny and there's a lot of you know,

906
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 11: published peer reviewed research that supports this idea that you know,

907
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 11: wild horses or feral horses can be really hard on

908
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 11: native landscape one because their populations just blow up. They

909
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 11: don't really have any natural predators, and so you know,

910
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 11: it's really not uncommon for them to you know, double

911
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 11: their population in a really short period of time on

912
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 11: a landscape that is really not suited for them. And

913
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 11: so what you end up getting is end up getting

914
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 11: a lot of damage to save brush, a lot of

915
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 11: damage to winter range, damage to water infrastructure, and it's

916
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 11: just you know, those horses are are out competing native species,

917
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 11: particularly pronghorn, mule deer and sage grouse are really you

918
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 11: know some of those those species that are most affected.

919
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 11: And so the BLM has really been on a sort

920
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 11: of initiative to to try to get this under control

921
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 11: and try to remove some of these horses from the

922
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 11: landscape so we can start doing some work for the

923
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 11: native species that I know a lot of the hunters

924
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 11: and anglers like myself are really want, and so that

925
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 11: we could start making some headway on savedbrush restoration and

926
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 11: things of that nature. And so for us, it was

927
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 11: really just about prioritizing pronghorn and their habitat over the

928
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 11: feral horses that are not native and are almost everywhere.

929
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 11: In every case, they are vastly overpopulated.

930
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 4: Brock.

931
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 1: I just spoke with the rancher in California who's got

932
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: a native population a pronghorn on his ranch, not huttable,

933
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: but he's going to join us at field Table this

934
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: year at Rendezvous, so you got to meet up with

935
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: him and talk. He's actually has a fencing business where

936
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: he goes through and does some of that mitigation work

937
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: for wildlife passage.

938
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 11: Very cool. Yeah, I'd love to meet him.

939
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brock. I also read you say that Wyoming has

940
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 2: some of the best infrastructure in place for antelope and

941
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: some other states need to catch up. What does that

942
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 2: mean exactly?

943
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 11: Well, I don't want to make that sound like you know,

944
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 11: the other states aren't doing or pulling their weight. I

945
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 11: think part of what we're observing here is just the

946
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 11: fact that Wyoming is sparsely populated, which gives them a

947
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 11: little bit of advantage when they're trying to deal with

948
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 11: some of this stuff in terms of wildlife and habitat.

949
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 11: But you know, they really have devoted a lot of resources.

950
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 11: You know, they've they've gotten a lot of support for

951
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 11: these things on a political level, through a management level

952
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 11: and an administration level, and so you know, they just

953
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 11: have the right resources in place. They've had the right

954
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 11: support for it, the right public support for it, and

955
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 11: I think it's just put them in a position where

956
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 11: they're able to utilize you know, cooperative research unit funding.

957
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 11: You know, through the Wyoming Migration initiative's done some fantastic

958
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 11: and incredible, you know, really groundbreaking work on migrations for

959
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 11: a variety of species. And so I think, you know,

960
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 11: when we look at places like Colorado or Montana, Idaho, Nevada,

961
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 11: New Mexico, and Arizona, you know, we're starting to see

962
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 11: some of that similar migration research and things like that

963
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 11: being done. But I really think that what we say

964
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 11: when we mean what we mean when we say that

965
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 11: is really just to try to get everybody else operating

966
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 11: sort of with that same intent, to really try to

967
00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 11: figure out what pronghorn need, where they're at on the

968
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 11: ground at different times a year, and what their challenges are.

969
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 11: And there's just, you know, very few tools out there

970
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 11: that will beat a GPS caller to tell you all

971
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 11: that stuff.

972
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: Last thing, how can listeners support the North American prong

973
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 2: Horn Foundation.

974
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 11: Right now? You can go to our website which is

975
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 11: pronghorns dot org, so that's pronghorns with an S dot

976
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:26,479
Speaker 11: org and that is our website. You can buy memberships there.

977
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 11: You can go to our merch store and order T

978
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 11: shirts and hats, things of that nature. And then we

979
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 11: also have an Instagram which is napp Official so napf

980
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 11: Underscore Official, and then you can look us up on

981
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 11: Facebook as well. And we really want your membership. Like

982
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 11: I said, we are really trying to grow this organization

983
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 11: into something that's impactful and so we would love for

984
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 11: you to give us thirty five dollars and let us

985
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 11: prove to you that we are are who we say

986
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 11: we are and we're going to do what we say

987
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 11: we're going to do.

988
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 2: Again, that is Pronghorns dot org. Brock, thanks for joining us,

989
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: and thanks for sticking up for anelope.

990
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 11: Thanks for having me. Guys appreciate it.

991
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 2: Cal It's been too long for us to not have

992
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 2: a prong horn federation or foundation at a national level.

993
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean for such a crazy, iconic, unique native species,

994
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: like truly native, it's really wild. Once you understand how

995
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: pronghorn are managed differently state to state, or you could

996
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: say not managed at all state to state, it's like

997
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: a giant loophole. So putting some more more focus getting

998
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: that magnifying glass on this species is certainly needed. And

999
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: Brocks correct, right, like that sagebrush ecosystem or grasslands, we're

1000
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: losing about two million acres a year right now, so

1001
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: it's the most imperiled ecosystem in the world, not just

1002
00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: the United States.

1003
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 2: Again, that's longhorns dot org. Consider joining the North American

1004
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 2: Pronghorn Foundation. All right, last thing for today is the

1005
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 2: Hot tip Off.

1006
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,479
Speaker 4: Turn your head and give what's that face?

1007
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 11: I don't have any hot tip's salty.

1008
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 2: Hot tip off is where two listeners go head to

1009
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 2: head with competing pieces of advice, and after we hear

1010
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 2: each tip, we'll declare which one is hotter. If you

1011
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 2: have a hot tip, take a one minute video on

1012
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: your phone and email it to Radio at the medeater

1013
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 2: dot com with the subject line hot Tip Off. This

1014
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 2: week it's Matt Short versus Ben Hunter, and they're competing

1015
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 2: for a copy of Catch a Crayfish, Count the Stars

1016
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 2: paperback edition as well as an m k C Flat

1017
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 2: tail knife. And we have a special guest judge joining

1018
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 2: us today, Steven Ranella, because these are hot tips about

1019
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 2: parenting and Cal and I have yet to reproduce and

1020
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 2: you have, so we brought you into the studio to

1021
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: decide who So you guys.

1022
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 3: Are you guys even voting or is it the.

1023
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 2: Listeners vote?

1024
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 8: But this is like very identity politics.

1025
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 2: Maybe Steve can sway their vote.

1026
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 3: I think I thought we were weighing in, Corey.

1027
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 2: Everybody can weigh in in.

1028
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 10: But I'm the judge, right If I'm not, I mean,

1029
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 10: am I to say or not to say?

1030
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 2: Listen? What do we think?

1031
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 3: I'm a parent? Too?

1032
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 11: Man?

1033
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 3: I got rights.

1034
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 2: We're gonna let the chat decide, Like that's my truth.

1035
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 2: We're gonna let the chat decide. Those of folks are

1036
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 2: gonna before we go.

1037
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 3: Both of the people that are competing, get a copy.

1038
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 2: Not just okay.

1039
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 3: The real prize is the second right here that they're

1040
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 3: gonna give to their kid, and so their kid can remember.

1041
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 10: Tell your kid cut towards your body.

1042
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 2: Uh huh. So, Steve, you're gonna need to watch the

1043
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 2: screen behind you. Phil, Phil is gonna play these hot

1044
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 2: tip offs. Take it away, Phil. Benjamin Hunter. Wow, my

1045
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 2: name is.

1046
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 12: Benjamin Hunter, and he has a hot tip taking kids fishing.

1047
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 7: Make your own moors.

1048
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 12: Go to the thrift store and buy some cheap spoons

1049
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 12: from the silver aisle. Then go home and cut off

1050
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 12: the handles with a hacksaw. File off the sharp edges,

1051
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 12: and droll hole about an eighth of an inch from

1052
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 12: each in. Now that you have should look something like this.

1053
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 12: Now attach a split ring to each end and put

1054
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 12: a trouble hook at the bottom. Tie it off to

1055
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 12: your line and go fishing. Not only can this be

1056
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 12: an effective lure, but it is also fun to catch

1057
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,240
Speaker 12: fish on a lure you've made, it's.

1058
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 10: Gonna be hard to beat that the other one.

1059
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 6: Well. Matt Short, Hey, what's up meat? Eat to crew.

1060
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 6: My name is Matt Short from Firestone, Colorado, and he

1061
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,720
Speaker 6: is a hot tip every parent knows that the success

1062
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 6: of their outing with kids is dependent on keeping them fed,

1063
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 6: warm and dry. But nothing will end your family fishing trip, day, hike,

1064
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 6: upland hunt faster than a bathroom emergency gone wrong. I

1065
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 6: can't even count on my two hands how many times

1066
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 6: my own kid's inability to judge when their next valve

1067
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 6: movement should be has ended one of our trips. That's

1068
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 6: why I've come up with kid poop bags. Pretty simple concept.

1069
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 6: Zip blog bag, toilet paper, dog poop bag. Right, if

1070
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 6: you want to get fancy with it, grab yourself some

1071
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 6: sanitization wipes. If you don't have a dog and don't

1072
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 6: have readily access access to these poop bags, run down

1073
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 6: to your local park. I guarantee you there's a lovely

1074
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 6: little dispenser there you can grab a couple for yourself.

1075
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 6: I put every single one of I put one of

1076
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 6: these in every single one of my bags. That way

1077
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 6: I'm always ready. Kid needs to take a dump, I

1078
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 6: go great, drop it on the ground, pick it up

1079
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 6: like it's a dog, Wipe him up, hand, sanitize myself.

1080
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 6: Everything goes back in my zip block baggie. I pack

1081
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 6: it out and we keep on trucking. Don't let your

1082
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 6: kids incontinence or lack of judgment of when is a

1083
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 6: good time to drop a load in your next family adventure.

1084
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 2: Steve thinking a tie.

1085
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 8: You only got one knife, man, we're gonna have to

1086
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 8: find another one. I'll give him one of my personal

1087
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 8: knives out of my personal box and knife.

1088
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 2: You're gonna pick Matt poop bag over the little kid

1089
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 2: who's making his own fishing lue.

1090
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 8: Well, I like the kid because he's cute. Yeah, the

1091
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 8: whole thing's cute. It's just cute. And I'll get out

1092
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 8: the whole thing making lures. The fact that the kid presented, well, yeah,

1093
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 8: I love everything about it.

1094
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good.

1095
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 8: I mean it's all good.

1096
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 10: Normally, what would have happened Normally I would watch and

1097
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 10: out belittle one of them.

1098
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 8: I mean I would be like that. But they're they're

1099
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 8: so strong.

1100
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 2: You're in a good mood today.

1101
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: No, And they have noy components, right, the material is

1102
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: so strong, uh huh.

1103
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 10: And and notice the guy with the poop bag. He's

1104
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 10: also getting into cleanup. He's not like, hey, scrabs the

1105
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 10: toilet paper because then you just leave it behind. He's

1106
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 10: bagging it up when it happens in an inopportune location.

1107
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 10: There's no way that I can in good conscience.

1108
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 2: That's why the Chad is going to vote. Oh, Phil,

1109
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 2: is the chad voting?

1110
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 3: I'm voting for the kid.

1111
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 4: I didn't put up an official poll. I can if

1112
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 4: we've got like, uh yeah, give a minute, I'm going.

1113
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 8: To bring on personal knife for my personal stash.

1114
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 2: Wow, and who Benjamin?

1115
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:35,720
Speaker 3: This new one's yours?

1116
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 8: Sure that's the kid?

1117
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 2: Right?

1118
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1119
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't wouldn't it be more special for the

1120
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: kid to have Steve Ranella's knife though, Oh there you go.

1121
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 3: He could sign it.

1122
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 8: I don't care. I'm just not picking between the two.

1123
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 2: I would vote for the kid because he's a kid.

1124
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 2: Because he's a kid.

1125
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, but that's identity politics.

1126
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 2: Brody, Brody, who you voting?

1127
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 3: I'd vote for the kid because I'm not down on

1128
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 3: the other one. You can always dig a hole. And honestly, man,

1129
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 3: I don't know how many times that's actually happened to

1130
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 3: me with my kids, what.

1131
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 13: Like a total like, oh my god, Brody just makes

1132
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 13: me eat a bag of cheese curds. It's we're gonna

1133
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 13: fish all day, eat the sack of curd's.

1134
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 3: Not like something that's happened to me enough times to.

1135
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 8: Like, well, if I came down, listen, did I come down?

1136
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 6: Here?

1137
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 8: Are we whistling Dixie?

1138
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 6: Or?

1139
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 8: Am I the judge?

1140
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 3: Oh?

1141
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 2: You can be the judge, it's all you.

1142
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 10: I'm gonna send him a private personal knife the kid.

1143
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 10: The kid gets the nice, fancy new knife. I'm gonna

1144
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 10: send the guy. I'm gonna send him something for my

1145
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 10: personal stash.

1146
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 2: Uncle, cal what do you think? Who would you pick?

1147
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: Man? I I like them both a lot. They're super prepared,

1148
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: and if I had to pick one, I like the

1149
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: recycling and the packing in packing out stuff too.

1150
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 10: He's not swayed by the kid being a kid. Today's

1151
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 10: kids are tomorrow's enemies.

1152
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 2: Oh that's what they say.

1153
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a run.

1154
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: I'd like to shove that kid down when I see like,

1155
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: why camp because it's easier now when he gets big?

1156
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 8: Why camp?

1157
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: The community and forest parenting?

1158
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 5: Now?

1159
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 3: Granted, I think that, like if everyone had the same

1160
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 3: attitude about the poop thing, like adults are bigger culprits

1161
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 3: and kids, I think.

1162
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, bigger poops, like the kid. I love kids, I

1163
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 8: mean I got most of them. Yeah, I mean like

1164
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 8: most of the time. I like like, I like like,

1165
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,439
Speaker 8: I like the idea of them, I like mine most

1166
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 8: of the time.

1167
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 2: Love them.

1168
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 8: He did a great job, presents well all right materials.

1169
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 4: After thirty seconds left of him, I.

1170
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 8: Just can't disrespect the dude. So let the kid win.

1171
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 8: Let him win. He wins. But I'm sending the guy

1172
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 8: a little something from the private stash, and he gets

1173
00:57:59,360 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 8: a book.

1174
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 2: Anyway, There's there's a good reason I'm not a dad,

1175
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 2: but it's hard for me to fathom pick it up.

1176
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 2: A kid's poop out in nature. Oh no, thank you.

1177
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 8: I got a story interesting, not mine.

1178
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 3: Listen, after you change a few diapers, I'm not either.

1179
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 3: You get poop under your fingernails and it's like a

1180
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 3: big deal.

1181
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 8: Do I really only have thirty thirty?

1182
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 6: He was.

1183
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 8: Tell quick story.

1184
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 10: So one time when I was in high school, we

1185
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 10: got a job where there's a guy building a loghouse

1186
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 10: and he bought there's this old farmer, old man Burns,

1187
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 10: and he had a big red pine plantation, and he

1188
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 10: bought all these red pines from mister Burns who one

1189
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 10: time on his farm. This is a little side story,

1190
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 10: a bullet killed a kid on his farm.

1191
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 8: One time. Wow, yeah, bull killed a kid on his farm.

1192
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 2: Like stopped on him.

1193
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 10: So before my time, this is a deep past. He

1194
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 10: was a pumpkin farmer. I used to go and help

1195
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 10: him load the pumpkins and drive him down because he's

1196
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 10: hold him to the local grocery stores. Anyhow, this guy

1197
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 10: buys these red pines from him, but he needs him

1198
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 10: cut and hauled out and stuck in a field. So

1199
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 10: we signed a little contract with him. He's going to

1200
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 10: give us five dollars apiece and use a forward tractor

1201
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 10: of his to cut limb move out to where they

1202
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 10: can be picked up in a truck, and put them

1203
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 10: up on stickers to get them off the ground.

1204
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 8: One hundred.

1205
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 10: Trees five bucks a tree. Well, we get done, and

1206
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 10: we had popped a hole as well as Brian filled tires.

1207
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 10: We'd hit a stump and put a big hole in

1208
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 10: the Brian filled tire. We get all done with the

1209
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 10: job and he informs us, hey, we're even. Oh no,

1210
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 10: we're even because it costs so much to buy a

1211
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 10: new tractor tire.

1212
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 3: How old are you?

1213
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 8: High school? We go home and tell our dad and

1214
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 8: that is just not acceptable to our dad.

1215
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,919
Speaker 10: Our dad gets him on the phone and say, here's

1216
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 10: what's gonna happen with this five hundred dollars. And then

1217
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 10: my dad says to us, he's waiting with your five

1218
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 10: hundred dollars at the job site. So we go to

1219
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 10: the job site and he's got to go his five

1220
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 10: hundred bucks. But you know what, the main thing, our

1221
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 10: main takeaway was he happened to be there with his grandson,

1222
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 10: and his grandson had just shad his pants, and as

1223
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 10: we show up, he's trying to clean up the grandson.

1224
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 10: And we thought at that time, before we had our

1225
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 10: own kids, we thought that that was the come uppings.

1226
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 2: Oh you got him, he had a clean up.

1227
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, like ha ha ha. Right now, I've done that myself.

1228
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:39,919
Speaker 8: I don't know how many times.

1229
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 10: Oh so you you had something coming to you then,

1230
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 10: But I just felt like a punishment worse than losing

1231
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 10: five hundred bucks would be to clean up with child's feet.

1232
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 10: And then then I had kids, and then we just

1233
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 10: eat it now like it that you're just drowning in it.

1234
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 10: You're drowning in it, man, not anymore.

1235
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 2: You were telling me how great kids are.

1236
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 7: With you.

1237
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 2: You were just telling me how great kids are.

1238
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 8: For a while, and you just it's just everywhere, It's

1239
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 8: on everything, wiping on your pants.

1240
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, nouro virus every other week.

1241
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 8: Now, I love that kid though. That was great. Thanks

1242
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 8: for having me down.

1243
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 4: With seventy two percent of the vote, Ben, the kid

1244
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 4: wins landslide.

1245
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 2: But we had a lot of.

1246
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 4: People in the chat basically agreeing with Steve saying that

1247
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 4: the poop bags probably a more practical helpful tip, but

1248
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 4: the kid kicks ass.

1249
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 8: So yeah.

1250
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 2: Well as the guy who had to filter through about

1251
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 2: a dozen entries for this, well, thank you everybody, but

1252
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 2: this was tough.

1253
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 3: Next time, we can't. We should mix kids and adults.

1254
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 3: We should do kids an adults, kids against each other, yes, yeah, yeah,

1255
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 3: Survival of the Fittest, Lord of the Flies, and.

1256
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: Then eventually you could see if there's a bracket system

1257
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: where the kid could out compete.

1258
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 8: The adult kids, put the kids against each other.

1259
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 2: Well on, Ben, Well done, Matt, thanks for sending those in. Steve,

1260
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 2: you got time to stick around for the chat.

1261
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,919
Speaker 8: Sure, okay, I've having a time of my life.

1262
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 2: Oh okay, great, Phil, what questions you got? This is

1263
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 2: the end of the show. We'll answer a few questions

1264
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 2: and Steve is gonna stay around to.

1265
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you have any questions for Steve, get him

1266
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 4: in there right now. You don't have a lot of time.

1267
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 4: I would say, let's see uh Leland our guy once again.

1268
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 4: Favorite way to prepare rainbow trout and Steve. If you've

1269
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 4: got something, Oh, you know, it's a lot of fun.

1270
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 10: There's a there's a dish called it's in French, will

1271
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 10: be blue trout truth all blue, truthdall one where you

1272
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 10: you drop them, it's gotta be real fresh and brand new.

1273
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 10: It's gotta still have its nice color. And you make

1274
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 10: this this heavily vinegard like poaching liquid.

1275
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 8: And for whatever reason, I don't understand the chemistry of

1276
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 8: it when you when.

1277
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 10: You drop that brand new fresh trout and like the

1278
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 10: French will do it where they'll drop they'll they'll like

1279
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 10: stun the trout and do it. You gotta do it

1280
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 10: that fast, and the trout turns blue. I'm not kidding you,

1281
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 10: it turns blue electric blue. Okay, if it's like some

1282
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 10: old trout has been tied to a string out in

1283
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 10: the creek, you know it's not gonna do it. But

1284
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 10: it's got that one in the smoker ye truth doll

1285
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 10: blue is a lot of fun just to just to

1286
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 10: watch the thing happen.

1287
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 2: It's like a traditional like gut them, leave the head

1288
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 2: on stuff there, tummy with lemon and herbs, and it

1289
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 2: just makes fun, just looks nice. Yeah, cal brody, anything.

1290
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: Down tinfoil packets. I mean, leland of your program, You're

1291
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 1: you're running a bunch of volunteers out there. I have

1292
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: an assembly line with tinfoil.

1293
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 3: Packets like yep, lemon, slices of lemon, A lot of butter,

1294
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:47,439
Speaker 3: a lot of butter.

1295
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 10: My dad used to They used to talk about wrapping

1296
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 10: them and leaves and then packing them in mud and

1297
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 10: cooking them.

1298
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 2: Oh that's cool.

1299
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'd like to try that sometimes.

1300
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 2: Fill else.

1301
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 4: Trey asks, Well, first, he says, I love having bears

1302
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 4: on my land, but they're starting to tear feeders down.

1303
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 4: What can I do to keep them around but not

1304
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 4: have them tear things up?

1305
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: Remove your feeds?

1306
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 5: Oh?

1307
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 8: Is he talking about deer feeders?

1308
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 2: He's talking about trying to feed deer be my guest.

1309
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 10: Well, I don't know if you're gonna dissuade him from

1310
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 10: that man? No way too, because you ever see that

1311
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 10: time they took that dead deer and electrified.

1312
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: It orizzy bears like.

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01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 10: Fives likedow just like eventually he just gets the deer.

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01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, eventually it just gets angry enough to where he's like,

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01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna take it.

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01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 8: He starts unplugging stuff. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think if you love having them on your land,

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01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 3: you're just gonna have to learn to coexist with them.

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01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 3: If you got deer feeders out, what.

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01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 2: Else you got?

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01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 4: Phil uh Mogor asks Steve, when was the last time

1322
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 4: you went on a hunt? Uh without cameras?

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01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:51,439
Speaker 8: Or last week?

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01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 4: I think people think that you are constantly being followed

1326
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 4: by by cinematographers, But you go, you're you're out there

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01:04:58,440 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 4: all the time.

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01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, mostly I mean out with my kids so a ton,

1329
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 8: but generally with my kids. But we just got back

1330
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 8: from hunting.

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01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 2: How'd that go? Great?

1332
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 8: My boy got his first bear?

1333
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 2: How many more bears died on that hunt?

1334
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 8: Our party had three?

1335
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 2: Okay?

1336
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 10: Well yeah, our little group had three, but we weren't

1337
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 10: all together. I was there for two of them. I

1338
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 10: was present for two when I was three hundred yards.

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01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 10: Everything went well, Oh yeah, a great time bade You.

1340
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 3: Guys saw some some bear love making on that trip, didn't.

1341
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 10: We killed two boars that I was there for one,

1342
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 10: not for the other one. That that we watched the

1343
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 10: a boar breed us out for twenty minutes.

1344
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 8: I'm not kidding you.

1345
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 10: You think people thick like like I'm saying twenty minutes,

1346
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 10: like meaning it was seven, but I'm saying twenty we

1347
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 10: watched a boar breed us out twenty minutes.

1348
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 2: Did the twenty minutes end when the boar was shot?

1349
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 8: Or no, I don't know why he walked away and

1350
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 8: started feeding?

1351
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 2: Okay, and you don't know why he walked away?

1352
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 8: No, I mean I since I don't know why he

1353
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 8: walked away. But they would like like.

1354
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 10: It was I don't know, I haven't watched enough, Like

1355
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 10: the first one they watched, the sow was receptive. In

1356
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 10: this case, it was hard to tell like what level

1357
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 10: of receptivity there and what level of sort of like

1358
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 10: just so there's like a lot of display and a

1359
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 10: lot of foreplay well like like fitting, I don't know,

1360
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 10: like fitness, Yeah, like you're like testing fitness. You're like

1361
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 10: she's like sussing out the cape whatever. A lot of

1362
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 10: like theatrics there were sometimes like our our My initial

1363
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 10: instinct was was two borers fighting. Then at a distance

1364
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 10: when I couldn't see clear, I was like, maybe it's

1365
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 10: just like two you know, a cubs ice fight, Like

1366
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 10: maybe that's what's going on.

1367
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 8: Then eventually I'm like, oh no, it's like a mating ritual.

1368
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 2: Surprised it was that ambiguous that it because they were

1369
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 2: through there was they were obscured.

1370
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 8: You can just see like a lot of black, like

1371
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 8: you know, you know. But but once we got clear,

1372
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 8: I mean we were like we were we were sixty yards.

1373
01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 1: Your comment about like perceived time versus actual time, Yeah,

1374
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 1: I ran a little experiment during Turkey season, and because

1375
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 1: you're always like, you're like, all this major saga is

1376
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 1: playing out, and and how you know, we got to

1377
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 1: allocate the right amount of time to this and when

1378
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: to move, and went out to move. So when I

1379
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: struck the bird, I hit the timer on my phone

1380
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 1: smart yep. And then and then we have this huge

1381
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 1: saga like no calling and not responding and what the

1382
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 1: hell is going on? And then eventually the bird calls

1383
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: and oh my god, he's coming in and and he

1384
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,479
Speaker 1: skirts us and then lo and behold there's another tom

1385
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 1: down there, and oh now he's coming in and and

1386
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 1: all these mental gymnastics. The shotgun goes off. I hit

1387
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: the stop on the timer thirteen minutes.

1388
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 3: Man, and it felt like way exactly.

1389
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 5: It's so painful.

1390
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 3: You're getting ready to walk somewhere else, go go get

1391
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 3: the truck, not somewhere.

1392
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 2: They Let's do a couple more before we close this out.

1393
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure thing.

1394
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 8: Uh.

1395
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 4: Nick says question for Steve, and he plans to do

1396
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 4: some upland hunting in the near future. And I would

1397
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 4: rephrase that by saying, Steve, what do you have against

1398
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 4: upland hunting?

1399
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 8: Does hunt blue grouse count Yeah?

1400
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Okay, boy, we can't.

1401
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,719
Speaker 3: We did some camping this past weekend and those blue

1402
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 3: grause were doing their thing. Oh yeah, everywhere, man. But

1403
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 3: I was trying to get my boys to sneak up

1404
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 3: on them. And that noise is so like you think

1405
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 3: you know right where they are. You go there and

1406
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 3: then you're like.

1407
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:37,679
Speaker 2: He's over there.

1408
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 3: Go over there, and you're like he's over there.

1409
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 8: You just feel the noise.

1410
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 2: Yep, he's struggling with this four wheeler again.

1411
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, we're a When I was with my little

1412
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 10: boy Matthew, there we were in a cool spot where

1413
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 10: you could hear blues and roughed at the same time.

1414
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, we had, and I was like, it's like, no,

1415
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 8: he's doing that with his wings. Yep, he's doing that

1416
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 8: with his mouth.

1417
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 5: You know.

1418
01:08:58,720 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 8: Yeah. I like hunt blue grosse a lot.

1419
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 4: Let's do one more, Phil, Sure there was a favorite

1420
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 4: summer lure for large mouth It's from Bradley.

1421
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 3: We're in Montana. That's a tough on crawl.

1422
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, favorite if the if it or top water friendly conditions.

1423
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 2: There is nothing more exciting and freshwater fishing than watching

1424
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 2: a large mouth, uh just explode on a frog. So

1425
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 2: can I give something that's my favorite?

1426
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 8: I give one from nineteen eighty five. Please.

1427
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 1: Back when I was a boy.

1428
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 10: When I was a boy, the thing that we most

1429
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 10: coveted in life was like you get those pre rigged

1430
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 10: be a purple crawler, well the orange spot and the

1431
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 10: three hooks, the three hooks on it, and it had

1432
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 10: a snelled loot like you know, and you'd see them

1433
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 10: in the bait shop for like seventy nine cents.

1434
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:46,759
Speaker 8: Dude, that was the lure.

1435
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 2: That was the lure man we called you must still

1436
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 2: make a crawlers, you go. So Bradley favorite again would

1437
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 2: be something anything top water. But if you just want

1438
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 2: to catch bass, throw a spinner bait or a that's

1439
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 2: like fil Like Steve said, all right, that's the end

1440
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 2: of this show. Next week, The Meat Eater Movie Club

1441
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 2: returns with hundreds of beavers. You can stream it on twov,

1442
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:15,160
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1443
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,679
Speaker 2: We'll see you guys back here, same time and place

1444
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 2: next week. Thank you.