Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure
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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. What is going on with
Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green and Trump? I thought they were also close,
Speaker 1: but things not as close as they used to be.
Speaker 2: Over there. We will discuss with our friend Ashley Brassfield.
Speaker 2: She is a.
Speaker 1: Reporter at the Daily Caller in DC, and she knows
Speaker 1: all the things happening on Capitol Hill, including this one.
Speaker 1: Is Ashley, good to see you again? What the heck
Speaker 1: is going on here? There was a time not long
Speaker 1: ago when MTG she even had the three letter you know,
Speaker 1: the acronym right aoc MTG. MTG was like the queen
Speaker 1: of Maga in the House of Representatives.
Speaker 2: And now they're saying mean things about each other. What happened?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the political breakup of the year, I would say,
Speaker 3: with MTG and President Trump. And yeah, so basically this
Speaker 3: all started back. I think what a lot of the
Speaker 3: reporting missing is. We saw a sixty minute interview last
Speaker 3: night with her, and I think they missed a lot
Speaker 3: of things. It wasn't just as all of a sudden explosion.
Speaker 3: It seemed there was things leading up to it. And
Speaker 3: I did a report on this and we looked into
Speaker 3: kind of like what happened from the beginning of the
Speaker 3: administration to now really and so what I found was,
Speaker 3: you know, we had the cabinet members coming out well
Speaker 3: MTG as we all know, a huge ally of President Trump.
Speaker 3: She actually never got an endorsement when she first ran
Speaker 3: for Congress in Georgia's fourteenth district.
Speaker 4: I'm from that area, so I remember it very well.
Speaker 3: So she kind of left Congress the same way she
Speaker 3: came in without an endorsement from Trump, I would say,
Speaker 3: So what happened was, you know, they'd never she never
Speaker 3: got a cabinet level. She stayed in Congress. She kind
Speaker 3: of headed the oversights DOGE sub committee, if you remember
Speaker 3: when all that was going down, cutting all the wais
Speaker 3: farm abuse, and so we kind of go on and
Speaker 3: that kind of phases out as Elon exits the administration
Speaker 3: at the time, and now we're talking about Senate and Georgia,
Speaker 3: which was a huge race going on right now, and
Speaker 3: you know, I think it would be wrong. I mean,
Speaker 3: Marjorie Taylor Green and the state of Georgia. She's the
Speaker 3: I would say head GOP female voice in the state,
Speaker 3: so why not consider a Senate race at the time,
Speaker 3: And from my reporting I found that she would. There
Speaker 3: was a pulling that came out specifically from some people
Speaker 3: in the administration or you know, friendlies in that area,
Speaker 3: and they kind of were trying to guess do her favor,
Speaker 3: is what I've heard, by showing her a poll saying
Speaker 3: she was not going to lose in the general election,
Speaker 3: showing her double digits down.
Speaker 1: So I don't think she was that she was going
Speaker 1: to lose. They showed her a poll saying you're you're
Speaker 1: going to get smoked, basically, okay.
Speaker 3: Keep going by double digits, by double digits, is what
Speaker 3: I'm hearing. So kind of doing a favor there so
Speaker 3: she doesn't have to get in the race embarrass her.
Speaker 3: And I think she is seen as quite an ally
Speaker 3: in Congress. I mean, she's pretty influential voice. You kind
Speaker 3: of always are seeing, you know, the spat clips of
Speaker 3: her and Jasmine Crockett going on. They talked about in
Speaker 3: the sixty eight minute interview, and so you know, I
Speaker 3: think that kind of was an upset right there a
Speaker 3: little bit, and that kind of left a.
Speaker 4: Wound in a way.
Speaker 3: So I think that's the first moment that you probably saw,
Speaker 3: and I don't think it's set well with her. So
Speaker 3: going on, you know, we saw some separation probably happened
Speaker 3: in the summertime over major issues started going on different
Speaker 3: you know, podcasts, whether it be liberal media, conservative media,
Speaker 3: and so you know, it was kind of I think
Speaker 3: with immigration was one of the vocal things she was
Speaker 3: talking about. I mean, Epstein, I don't think we can
Speaker 3: forget about that. That was what the point was that
Speaker 3: they were trying to emphasize. Was the breaking point when
Speaker 3: she signed the Discharge resolution with Thomas Massey, Lauren Bobert,
Speaker 3: and Nancy Mace. So that was seen as a hostile
Speaker 3: act and that was directly quoted from the White House
Speaker 3: at the time. So multiple issues that she separated from
Speaker 3: the president on. But you know, I talked to a
Speaker 3: lot of people and this is these are still issues
Speaker 3: we're talking about right now, and it is a question
Speaker 3: of Okay, did she see the puck before them admin
Speaker 3: did on things like affordability, the housing crisis going on
Speaker 3: the country, and kind of things that gen Z are
Speaker 3: very you know, hyped upon, and we're seeing some divides
Speaker 3: in the conservative movement.
Speaker 4: I would say right.
Speaker 1: Now she was, yeah, she I remember she was very
Speaker 1: fired up over the Epstein file stuff. Yes, yeah, I
Speaker 1: would she she's I've been big on the Israel committed
Speaker 1: a genocide in Gaza thing, which yeah, I didn't see
Speaker 1: that one coming. How did that at any background or
Speaker 1: any insight on that one that that seemed to catch
Speaker 1: some of maga, I think by surprise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up. I did hear.
Speaker 3: You know, I think some riffs were happening with Mike Johnson.
Speaker 3: You've seen that, even with the least aphonics, which I've
Speaker 3: found interesting. But that issue, you know, Congress voted i
Speaker 3: think about twenty two times on a resolution to you know,
Speaker 3: take down anti Semitism, and I think there was growing
Speaker 3: frustration with that because you know, it was just kind
Speaker 3: of this facade show that oh we just we'd announced
Speaker 3: anti semitism and nothing was really getting done. So I
Speaker 3: think there was frustration there that it was continuously in
Speaker 3: her time in Congress, being brought to the floor, and
Speaker 3: it was you know, you can denounce it, obviously, but
Speaker 3: twenty two times I think she was thinking maybe it
Speaker 3: was overkill, and there was frustration there because of the
Speaker 3: factors like affordability were not being considered at the time.
Speaker 3: And I know that's a buzzword for both sides, but
Speaker 3: I mean we see now President Trump's going on affordability tour,
Speaker 3: so you know, seeing that Puck I think was the
Speaker 3: main thing there in that issue. But you know, there
Speaker 3: was hostility I would say, with the Speaker and that
Speaker 3: really came to it, and with President Trump and her fighting.
Speaker 3: And also I think another factor that's misguided here was
Speaker 3: the fact, you know, she would take shots at White
Speaker 3: House staff, and to a certain extent, she could continue
Speaker 3: to do that, not taking a direct shot at President Trump.
Speaker 3: But you know, these are people around the president. And
Speaker 3: also when it comes to deals like Argentino for specifically,
Speaker 3: you know, you can't criticize Justice staff when he's the
Speaker 3: one that's you know, his thing is negotiating.
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, I mean, you've got now the president,
Speaker 1: this is this is for the New York Post that
Speaker 1: a demanding an apology from sixty minutes and also very
Speaker 1: upset with so that's over the Hunter Biden laptop, which
Speaker 1: that has not his positioning on that certainly hasn't changed,
Speaker 1: and fumed about outgoing GOP Rep. Margie Taylor Green and
Speaker 1: called her a trader. In a truth social ran, he wrote,
Speaker 1: the only reason Marjorie Trader Brown Green turns brown what
Speaker 1: under stress went bad all caps is that she was
Speaker 1: jilted by the President of the United States. Certainly not
Speaker 1: the first time she has been jilted. I actually didn't
Speaker 1: see this until you came, dear.
Speaker 2: Wow. Trump is very unhappy.
Speaker 4: With her, very unhappy.
Speaker 3: You know. I think everybody was expecting, you know, this
Speaker 3: few to kind of come to an and eventually and
Speaker 3: I'm not sure you know, there's bad blood there. We
Speaker 3: saw Elon and him kind of make up in ways.
Speaker 3: But you know, I mean, Marjorie Taylor Green, she supported
Speaker 3: Trump when he really didn't support her. So I think
Speaker 3: it is kind of a feeling of us being scorn
Speaker 3: in a lot of ways. And just kind of to
Speaker 3: give you some insight, I think there is She's made
Speaker 3: some comments specifically at you know, men and saying, you
Speaker 3: know that they're weak men, and she won't say direct names.
Speaker 3: There's just a bunch of weak men in Congress. But
Speaker 3: you know, to frame it as well, for the state
Speaker 3: of Georgia, you have Governor Brian Kimp at the time,
Speaker 3: especially after the twenty twenty election where you saw Trump
Speaker 3: and him feuding, and Marjorie Taylor Green took Trump's side
Speaker 3: on that. So I don't think she's made a bunch
Speaker 3: of friends with people like Governor Kemp and even others
Speaker 3: that are in Congress that kind of have tried to
Speaker 3: get their way in Georgia.
Speaker 4: I don't think she's friends with a lot of them.
Speaker 3: So I think she's taking shots in that in and
Speaker 3: I don't know how good a messaging that is, but
Speaker 3: I mean that's a factor as well. I think it
Speaker 3: was a culmination of things that wasn't simply Jeffrey Epstein
Speaker 3: and it blew up like that.
Speaker 1: Wait to come back here and talk about something else
Speaker 1: on the political scene that I think it's going to
Speaker 1: be getting a lot of attention, Ashley, and that is
Speaker 1: that it looks like Jasmine Crockett it's gonna be running
Speaker 1: for Senate.
Speaker 2: That has come out today.
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Speaker 1: Jasmine Crockett is seriously thinking that she is going to
Speaker 1: be able to run for Senate and people might vote
Speaker 1: for her. Tell me more about this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, this is the state of Texas we're
Speaker 4: talking about.
Speaker 3: And it makes me laugh because I think the only
Speaker 3: one they thought had a chance was Beto Arouric, And
Speaker 3: now you have kind of Jasmin Crockett who's a very
Speaker 3: vocal voice in Congress. I think you would equate her
Speaker 3: into the AOC bubble if anything, and talk about two
Speaker 3: people that spat a lot was Marjorie Taylor Green and
Speaker 3: Josmin Crockett. But you know, she's got this, she puts
Speaker 3: on these you know, kind of facades. I feel like
Speaker 3: a lot of the time, you know, whether whatever room
Speaker 3: she's in, you know, I think if she's talking to
Speaker 3: a group of you know, African American, she kind of
Speaker 3: puts on this sassy aspect about her and kind of
Speaker 3: tries to appeal for them. But she I think her education,
Speaker 3: if I'm correct, is a lot of higher up education.
Speaker 3: I don't think she came from a poor background to
Speaker 3: say the least.
Speaker 1: So it's fancy, a fancy private school is what you're
Speaker 1: referring to.
Speaker 3: Yes, and of course law school as well, so that's
Speaker 3: not that's not cheap either. So it's a little confusing
Speaker 3: to me how she would appeal to voters in Texas
Speaker 3: and specifically where it's a very red state. In my opinion,
Speaker 3: I think if you want to look at a Canada,
Speaker 3: that might be a little bit more risky as this
Speaker 3: James Talerico individual from the Democrat side. I think he's
Speaker 3: tried to become a preacher, and he's I think from
Speaker 3: Austin area.
Speaker 4: He's a state legislator or state senator.
Speaker 3: He was on Joe Rogan and I could tell from
Speaker 3: that interview I kind of read it really soon after.
Speaker 3: I was like, he's going to try and make a
Speaker 3: bit himself. So she's got to go up in the
Speaker 3: primary against tech types like him. You know, he's a
Speaker 3: white male, tries to say that he's, you know, going
Speaker 3: to be a preacher. He's got some stuff come out
Speaker 3: interesting enough about following only fans models, so it's it's
Speaker 3: an interesting group.
Speaker 1: He goes the guy that got Della free, following the
Speaker 1: only fans.
Speaker 2: Models or whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't know if bottles is even really the word,
Speaker 1: but yeah, wow, okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, creators whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, only fans something or others. That is a remarkable.
Speaker 2: State of affairs.
Speaker 3: But anyway, another funny, another funny thing about Jasmine Crockett.
Speaker 3: You have to remember too, her most recent uh I
Speaker 3: guess you know, mistake in the media was her talking
Speaker 3: about Lee Zelden getting a contribution from Jeffrey Epstein. But
Speaker 3: it was actually a doctor Jeffrey Epstein in New York City.
Speaker 3: So that's what we're dealing with Jasmin Crockett, and you know,
Speaker 3: trying to double down of oh, we got to figure
Speaker 3: out who this guy is instead of just saying I've
Speaker 3: got it wrong. You know.
Speaker 4: So that's the type of person Jasmin Crockett is.
Speaker 1: Well, you know that when she when she got caught
Speaker 1: and and everyone realized that this was I spent a
Speaker 1: good chunk of time on radio talking about that story.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you reminded me of it.
Speaker 1: I went I went back and I was finding, well,
Speaker 1: how what's the cleanup that she's going to do on this?
Speaker 2: It'd be like, usually be all my staff, right, as
Speaker 2: my staff.
Speaker 1: She did throw the staff under the bus a little bit,
Speaker 1: but then she did I didn't say it was that,
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2: She actually pulled. She actually pulled the I said, Jeffrey, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not wrong.
Speaker 3: Yes, And she always throws her staff under the bus.
Speaker 3: I mean, these are the people that have to carry
Speaker 3: her purse around. So in Congress, it's kind of well
Speaker 3: known within the Hill that she's kind of got that
Speaker 3: personality about her. But yeah, I don't think it's gonna
Speaker 3: sit well with Texas voters. I mean it's a red state,
Speaker 3: and I know people worried about after a bunch of Californians,
Speaker 3: you know, moved there after COVID that it was going
Speaker 3: to turn blue.
Speaker 4: Well not even Beto or it can make it turn blue.
Speaker 4: So you know, what is it? What are you gonna do?
Speaker 2: You know there's a famous line in now that you're
Speaker 2: way too.
Speaker 1: Young for this, But some of our listeners on what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the show Cheers where they have the
Speaker 1: guy Cliff says he's on Jeopardy and they ask and
Speaker 1: that the line is they're trying to find out who
Speaker 1: the people are, Like he's you know what the answer is,
Speaker 1: and he goes, three people who have never been in
Speaker 1: my kitchen?
Speaker 2: Is his answer technically true? Right? It's like, who are
Speaker 2: the signers of the Declaration of independence? Three people who
Speaker 2: have never been in my kitchen? You know.
Speaker 1: It's like Jasmine Krackton went with the you know, I
Speaker 1: did say it was Jeffrey Epstein and there is a
Speaker 1: doctor Jeffrey Epstein. So she had she had that going
Speaker 1: for her, which is nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can help, but cringe. I mean, you have
Speaker 3: to you have the two primaries you have.
Speaker 4: To worry about.
Speaker 3: There's so many things happening in states all over the place.
Speaker 3: But even on the Republican side, you have corn and
Speaker 3: Paxton and Wesley Hunt dueling it out on that side.
Speaker 3: So I think that will be interesting. And even if
Speaker 3: she can survive the primary in Texas, that's I guess.
Speaker 1: My next question are you are you following this Indiana
Speaker 1: redistricting thing at all or is this too boring for you?
Speaker 3: No? I am. I know that the Republicans have about
Speaker 3: seven seats, the two seats are Democrats, and we're.
Speaker 2: Looking hold on, we're gonna come let's come back, and
Speaker 2: let's come back.
Speaker 1: You can tell everybody, because I get people sending me,
Speaker 1: particularly Indiana listeners, who are angry. They're like, what are
Speaker 1: you gonna do about this? Well, first of all, I
Speaker 1: don't know what I can do about this, but they're
Speaker 1: very upsetting.
Speaker 2: Something do something, Buck.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I will try, but we'll come back and
Speaker 1: we'll do that. We'll talk about that a second. Our
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Speaker 2: Here, here's what's going on.
Speaker 1: State Senate GOP leader Roderick Bray mollified his stance on
Speaker 1: the likelihood of his caucus approving the new maps, so
Speaker 1: he has reiterated his opposition. Why is it that all
Speaker 1: this is the question I get, and you can try
Speaker 1: to help me answer this. Why is it that when
Speaker 1: Republicans can do things that will help Republicans, they find
Speaker 1: ways to be like, no, that's mean to the Democrats,
Speaker 1: Like why wouldn't they just be a district to the
Speaker 1: maximum GOP advantage?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think I did a piece on this
Speaker 3: a while back, you know, when it was specifically talking
Speaker 3: about the Prop fifty going on in California as a
Speaker 3: I guess a newsom trying to battle back against Texas
Speaker 3: is what he says. But I think historically Democrats have
Speaker 3: used an advantage. I mean, you look at Illinois with Pritzker,
Speaker 3: and we saw that being a big issue during that
Speaker 3: fight itself.
Speaker 4: But I think you're right.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is going directly against what President Trump wants,
Speaker 3: and so they're taking a lot of heat from it,
Speaker 3: is what I'm seeing. But you know, Indiana has seven
Speaker 3: Republicans to Democrats. These two Democrat districts, I believe it's
Speaker 3: splitting Indianapolis if I can remember correctly, into four segments,
Speaker 3: and that's kind of the blue district.
Speaker 4: That they're worried about. But I guess what are the listeners.
Speaker 3: I want to ask you, what are they so angry about,
Speaker 3: I mean, against the state leader's stance going against it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just feel like they feel like when you
Speaker 1: brought up Illinois, for example, you look at that map
Speaker 1: and it's laughable, right. I mean, it's just meant to be.
Speaker 1: They're just doing whatever they can. But somehow Republicans, when
Speaker 1: they have a clear field, they have the clear advantage,
Speaker 1: they're like, well, we don't want to do too much
Speaker 1: of what the Democrats do when it comes to redistricting.
Speaker 1: And I think people get pretty ticked off, especially when
Speaker 1: that's happening in red states, like those of us who
Speaker 1: are fighting it out in purple states. So the Florida's
Speaker 1: pretty red now fight it out in purple states, feel like,
Speaker 1: if only we could do that here. So I think
Speaker 1: there's just a frustration that some people don't understand what
Speaker 1: time it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's this I guess establishment thought process is my
Speaker 3: thought on it, I guess, and I agree.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 3: I mean, you had people like a former attorney general
Speaker 3: for Obama go to places like Alabama to fight a
Speaker 3: battle like this, and a lot of people don't remember that.
Speaker 3: But I mean, if you are looking at you're looking
Speaker 3: at the House that's kind of on teetering right now,
Speaker 3: read going into the twenty twenty six election due to retirements,
Speaker 3: special elections going on.
Speaker 4: So I mean this is the time.
Speaker 3: To you know, for Republicans to get ahead in this
Speaker 3: sense and to do what needs to be done on
Speaker 3: their end. I mean, Democrats have set the standard in
Speaker 3: the precedent in my opinion, in this case.
Speaker 4: So I mean you're right.
Speaker 3: I think there is an issue when you know state
Speaker 3: Republicans don't want to put their best foot forward and
Speaker 3: make the change. And I mean, I can understand why
Speaker 3: Republican voters are have an issue with this.
Speaker 1: But it's always the case that some of some of
Speaker 1: the worst Republicans. And I actually will credit my friend
Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly with constantly pounding this drum some of the
Speaker 1: worst Republicans.
Speaker 2: You get an elected officer.
Speaker 1: In the reddest states, Yeah, you see Utah, Wyoming. They
Speaker 1: give us these Republicans and you go way second, this is.
Speaker 2: What the voters wanted in your state.
Speaker 1: But I think it's just it's easy to get complacent
Speaker 1: and lazy when everyone around you is also a Republican.
Speaker 3: Well make it a point too, to realize, you know,
Speaker 3: these are the people you're putting in an elected office.
Speaker 3: I mean, you got to understand the type of people
Speaker 3: that you're electing. And I say this all the time.
Speaker 3: I have a mug that says this smug works harder
Speaker 3: than Congress. And I mean it's the people that you're
Speaker 3: putting into Congress that you have to worry about and
Speaker 3: the type of people if they're going to get things done,
Speaker 3: and how they're going to act when they get up
Speaker 3: to DC. And I think that's a high standard to
Speaker 3: hold because I mean it's a place where it's a
Speaker 3: swamp and it will kind of engal for you if
Speaker 3: you're not careful. So having a higher standard for the
Speaker 3: people you're putting in office, and that goes for state office,
Speaker 3: I think as well. But you know, the voters have
Speaker 3: to be more vocal about it. And you know, we
Speaker 3: talked about this too with the legal immigrants voting with
Speaker 3: the census. I believe jd Vance brought this up in
Speaker 3: an interview with Joe Rogan, and that's a huge issue
Speaker 3: itself too, where you know, the headcount within houses that
Speaker 3: are counting legal immigrants. I mean, that's an issue that
Speaker 3: Republicans could be fixing right now so it's not a
Speaker 3: repeat in the future.
Speaker 1: And yet Republicans sometimes you wonder do they even want
Speaker 1: to win that?
Speaker 2: That's a question I get for people all the time.
Speaker 2: I'm like, h depends on when you have.
Speaker 4: Well, and that's that. I mean, what are Democrats doing
Speaker 4: right now?
Speaker 3: Right? And they're just kind of you know, the parties
Speaker 3: in fighting currently with Republicans. I don't think Democrats. I
Speaker 3: think they have their own war going on with between
Speaker 3: the establishment and progressive types. I think we've talked about
Speaker 3: Grand Planner and May and you know Chuck Schumer, the
Speaker 3: establishments types. They have their own battle going on right now,
Speaker 3: the campus side, which one they want to endorse, like
Speaker 3: Mom Donnie, the more socialist type, or the more establishment
Speaker 3: type like Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 2: There you go.
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