WEBVTT - Draft Show: The Most Important Senior Bowl Ever? 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:14.720 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:18.160 war room for in center news and draft analysis from 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:21.680 deep within the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:28.640 in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys like CD lamb and now your hosts. 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:33.599 Brian brought us David Hellman, Bucky Brooks, and Kyle Yeoman's. 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:37.960 Oh it's a new Tuesday edition of the Draft Show 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:42.200 from the s WBC Mortgage Studios, as always presented by 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:45.519 Miller Light As the Senior Bowl is now in the 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:49.040 rear view mirror. Next up the NFL Combine. Oh wait, 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:51.800 I guess that's not happening this year, but we're gonna 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:54.400 break it down regardless. Here on the Draft Show, We've 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:57.200 got Bucky Brooks, Bryant brought us David Hellman, I'm Kyle 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:00.720 Yeoman's Chris Beam in the back doing fantastic work as always, 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.440 as we are now eighty three days out, gentlemen from 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:07.920 the NFL Draft that is supposed to be held in Cleveland, Ohio, 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.880 and well, the Senior Bowl was held in Mobile, Alabama 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:14.560 over the last couple of days in a concluded their 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:20.080 festivitis festivities rather on Saturday, and one credit to Jim 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:22.480 Nage and company of getting the Senior Bowl all the 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:26.120 way through with only one positive COVID test over thirty 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:29.480 four hundred and ministered throughout the week down in Mobile. 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:32.760 Two a really great showing for a lot of guys 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:34.280 that we're going to kind of break down, some of 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:36.920 which that may be wearing stars on the side of 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:41.039 their helmet starting as soon as next season. So well, 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:43.319 Bucky Brooks, you got a chance to break it down 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:45.960 on Thursday, and you get to come back on Tuesday. 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:48.800 So what were your overall thoughts of the Senior Bowl 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:52.840 and some things that you saw down in Mobile. Well, 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:54.320 I mean, I think it was great that they were 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:57.320 able to get the game played without a hitch. I 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:59.760 think it was probably the most important Senior Bowl that 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:03.480 we've seen, and sometime without the combine, without a lot 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:05.680 of these private workouts, this is the last time that 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:07.640 you were going to get guys get a chance to 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:09.239 see guys play ball. And I think there are a 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:11.760 lot of players down there that helped themselves. I think 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:14.760 you're going to have a faction enough scouts to kind 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:18.160 of lean on the players that played most recently, and 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:21.320 that lasting impression from the Senior Bowl is really going 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:25.880 to impact the way draft boards are stacked around the league. Right, Yeah, 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.440 I think that Buck, Yeah, I think Bucky's absolutely right. 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:30.640 And you know, you start to talk about, you know, 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.320 and you mentioned in the open kind of what's going 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:36.800 to happen with the lack of the combine. And again, 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:38.919 tip of the cap to Jim Naggy and the staff, 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.480 Tip of the cap to the players, the coaches from 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:44.120 Caroline in Miami for putting on a great show. It 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:46.960 was a very competitive game, and I think there were 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:49.680 some players that if you were talking about initially you 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.480 might have had a certain level on your board. If 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:56.000 you've evaluated kids that might have been a fifth round 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.320 grade going in and now maybe hey, a good Senior 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:00.519 Bowl helped him and elevated him. Maybe it's kind of 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:03.359 into a third round status. Now, maybe you weren't too 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:06.920 sure about kids from a smaller school. You know, we 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:10.240 all learned about an offensive lineman from Whitewater, you know, 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:12.440 and if you know now you have to go hunt 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:14.600 that tape. And so, you know, there are a lot 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:17.240 of things that are great about the Senior Bowl, but 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.240 the fact that they were able to play the game 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.639 make it competitive. Do it in a safe matter. I 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:25.880 think it is a great testament to really the whole 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:30.240 scouting community. It was such a relief too. You know, 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:35.440 obviously it's an unprecedented Senior Bowls. You know, Brian, you 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:38.320 and I didn't go, which is you know, that's a 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:43.480 change for us, but like it felt very similar like I, 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:45.360 you know, you get to sit down and watch the 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:48.120 practices and see all the same stuff, Like I was 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.520 watching it from my couch instead of the press box 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.240 at the stadium. But you know, I still felt like 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:56.680 I was glean information from it, and I guess, you know, 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:59.120 maybe I should have expected that, but you're just you 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:01.080 get so used to doing it one way over the 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:03.560 course of seven or eight years, you know, I had 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:07.240 a lot of misgivings, But by Thursday, I felt like 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.840 I had just as similar a grasp on what was 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:11.640 going on as I usually do. So that was it 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:14.280 was a nice relief that you were still kind of 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:18.200 able to glean information from mobile even though obviously very 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:21.400 very different, it didn't feel a little bit different in 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:23.560 the fact that I feel like if we were in 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.520 the stadium and it wasn't at lad People's this year, 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:29.159 it was across the street in South Alabama's campus, But 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:31.280 if you were in the stadium, I feel like you 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:34.000 would see one side of the field, whereas if you're 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:36.360 watching from home, you actually get to see the ALL 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.200 twenty two and actually kind of get to see it 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:41.120 as it comes in. The NFL did a nice job 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.640 of kind of updating things along the way, and so 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:46.560 maybe you get to see a little bit more off 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:50.200 the top and maybe get to not have those preconceived 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:53.320 notions whenever it comes to scouting these players, because Brian, 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.840 I mean I know you you know this very well 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:57.840 as most do in the past of being at a 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:00.159 Senior Bowl, being in one end zone in the the 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.800 defensive lineman and offensive linemen are in the other end zone. 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:05.360 You can't really scout at that point, but if you have, 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:07.799 if you hear some things and rumblings from other people 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:09.880 that were in that end zone. You didn't have that 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:12.080 this year. You just had kind of the straightforward ALL 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:17.159 twenty two tape to evaluate in teams are the same way, yeah, 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.240 I know absolutely. And Kyle, which you got to be 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:21.360 as an old krusty scout like me and work your 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.440 way in the press box where you grab binoculars and 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.600 you can try and again, you got to keep your 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:29.320 head on a swivel up there. Bucky was always down 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:31.320 there in the middle. Buck. You liked to be right 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:34.960 where the where the action was. I was always up top, 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:38.600 you know, hanging out with Ozzie Newsome and you know, 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:40.400 and that was fun for me because I always got 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:45.280 an education sitting next to Ozzie during that time. But yeah, 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:48.040 the evaluation part of it, if the Senior Bowl will 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:50.280 never change, and you know the fact that you can 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:52.119 be in the stands, that you can get the film 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:54.680 later on, and the fact that the teams too do 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:58.360 a great job. I thought the Carolina Panthers the Dolphins 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:01.360 did a great job of the the type of practices 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:03.719 that they were having, the one on one stuff. You know, 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:05.560 that's what you want out of the Senior Bowl. You 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:09.280 want to see those compete parts, you know, the chance 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:11.720 when they're in the individual drills and stuff. Yeah, you 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.600 can see the footwork, the athletic ability, but man, it 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:18.000 was those competitive situations that really got you go and 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:21.600 it really helped you with your evaluation. Yeah, Brian, I 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.320 think there was something too that like just the pace 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:27.800 and tempo or practice, the fact that both of these 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.400 coaching staffs to me, appear to be like these urgent 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:33.880 teaching coaching staffs, like trying to get guys moving, trying 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.159 to see if they can adjust and adapt to the tempo. 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:39.320 I thought that was outstanding. I thought the situations that 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:42.280 both teams utilize, whether it's two minute, whether it's coming 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:44.880 out the back, those things that were kind of sprinkling 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:47.640 throughout the practice state gave us a chance to see 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:51.839 players and critical situations just to see how they performed. 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:54.279 And you may not hold those things differently, but you 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.320 do want to see how guys react when it does counting, 0:06:57.360 --> 0:07:00.680 when they are kind of keeping scoring. I did really 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:03.760 think that Matt Rule and Brian Flores kind of stole 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.200 the show. I mean, as the coaching staffs. I thought 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:09.400 one Matt Rule, who I mean, I mentioned this last week, 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:11.440 but I knew him down in Waco. He's always had 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:15.360 that intense practice, even the two of days and such 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:17.760 at Baylor and what he kind of brought from the 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.800 college level. He has those same kind of practices with 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:22.960 the Carolina Panthers, and you saw that of course at 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:25.040 the Senior Bowlers passed week. But man, I really like 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:27.720 Brian Flores too, Bucky and what he brings to the 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:30.920 table as a teaching head coach and somebody that evaluates 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:34.640 how much do you think these prospects gained from being 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:36.679 down there? And how much do you think coaching staffs 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:39.680 around the league recognize the fact that they might have 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:44.200 gained from being with these two sides. You know, I'll 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.200 say you haven't haven't played in the Senior Bowl back 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:48.560 in ninety four, long long time ago. I will say 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:52.040 that is your first introduction to the way the pro 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:55.000 game is, and there is a difference, the tempo, the 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:58.440 intensity is a lot different than where you come from 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:01.120 at the collegiate level. And I think Brian Floyd's and 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:04.560 matell did a great job of introducing guys to the 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:07.840 phrase a BA pro be on time, play hard, know 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.040 what you're supposed to do, make sure you're prepared when 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:13.160 you're on the field. There's a certain standard of expectation 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:16.160 in terms of your performance. I think those things are great, 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:19.360 and I think for those coaching staffs and personnel staffs 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:23.760 they have such a huge advantage over everybody else because 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.240 for one hundred and fifteen or so players, they really 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:29.000 got to know them. And in a draft where you 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:31.600 don't have the combine and the other stuff where you 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:35.280 get to know people they have information that others won't have, 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:37.080 and that will it should hurt help them when it 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.640 comes time to make picks. Yeah, I think I think 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:41.839 Buckie's absolutely right too. You know, when you look at 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:44.240 the fact that they got to meet with those kids 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:48.319 at night and talk to them about how they know, 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:51.600 how are they taking in information? You know, every day 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:55.040 they would try and install something, and so now you're 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:58.160 able to look at that kid in the face and say, hey, man, 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:03.240 he picked up everything, every check, every gian, He's taken notes, 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:06.280 you know, very intense, or maybe it was on the 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.200 other end of it where it's like, man, that kid 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:10.760 had that far away look. I don't know if he 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:14.360 really totally understood what we were saying. So that that's 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:17.320 a huge advantage when you get to hang around those kids, 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:19.240 you get to meet with them, you get to eat 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.920 with them. You know, even with all the COVID stuff 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:24.440 going on, you still have an opportunity to be with 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:26.400 him as some of the other teams were kind of 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:34.320 on the outside as always looking in. David oh Man, 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:39.280 I had the how do I want to phrase it, 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:41.839 I like I was blown away by Matt Rule, is 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:44.120 what I'm trying to write to the point where you know, 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:48.240 and you know, you think back to last year when 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:50.520 the Cowboys were hiring their coach, and the big thing 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.160 was like they wanted a super they wanted a super 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:57.680 experienced guy. You know, Mike McCarthy arguably the most experienced option, 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:00.920 and I just found myself watch in these practices and 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.680 I was like, oh, maybe they should have taken a 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:06.280 chance on the rising star instead of the guy that's 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:09.280 been around the block a few times. Because obviously I 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:12.600 have no idea how good Matt Rule's career is going 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:15.880 to be, but I was super impressed. And you know, 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:18.560 based on his one season so far and what I 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:21.040 saw from him this past week and what he did 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:24.360 in college at multiple different places, I'm just not going 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:26.320 to be surprised if he winds up being a very, 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.200 very successful head coach. Yeah, I'm gonna give you guys 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:31.960 a little insight. He was surprised he didn't get an 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:35.200 opportunity to meet with the Cowboys. Yeah, he really he 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:37.920 really wanted to meet with the Cowboys. And you know, 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.320 he's a guy that went to the Jets last year 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:42.480 and kind of talked about how he would like to 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.760 put his program in place, and he had a really 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.800 good understanding of what he wanted to do. The Cowboys, 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:51.240 as we've talked about here a bunch different with the 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:54.800 general manager, different with the director of player personnel. It's 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:58.760 a different environment. But Matt Rule really wanted the opportunity 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:01.240 to meet with the Dallas Voice and he just did 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:04.200 not get that. So, you know, good for the Carolina Panthers, 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:07.800 they got a really good football coach. This guy's wanted 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:09.680 every level. Ye you know, you look at what he 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:12.720 did at Temple, you look at Baylor's situation was an 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.240 absolute train wreck when he got there, and you know, 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:17.400 to get them in bowl games and stuff like that. 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.200 I think there's a lot of credit to him and 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:21.920 his staff. Took him from one to eleven and losing 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:25.200 to Liberty and UTSA to the Sugar Bowl in three 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:31.120 years at Baylor. I mean, that's remarkable with that's own Bucky. Yeah, 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:33.280 I think there's a lesson to be learned when we 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:36.360 talk about head coaching and head coaching searches. I think 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:39.280 Matt Rule gives you a clear example of how you 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:41.760 can find someone who may not have NFL experience, but 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:46.040 they can be successful because they have built multiple programs 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:48.560 and they have a system in place where they knew 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:50.480 exactly what they want to do, how they want to 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:52.520 do it, and those things. And I think what you 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:55.800 saw from Matt rule he has a confidence that he 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:59.360 knows exactly where he is taking whatever team he's in 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:02.240 charge of. And because he's kind of had a tried 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:05.600 and true formula that's been time tested and it's worked 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:09.280 at different locations, I think that embolds him and that's 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:11.760 why he was so I won't say arrogant, but that's 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:13.360 why he walked away from just like, no, if I 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.480 can't do it the way that I want it, I'm good. 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:18.199 I'll wait for a situation where I can do it 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:21.520 the way that I know needs to be done. Because 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:24.760 I've been successful doing it that way. I think it's important. Yeah, 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:28.280 I think he's gonna have a lot of success. And unfortunately, 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:31.080 like some people in the chat have joked already have 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:33.640 him watching the periscope stream and they joke to all, 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.720 we can't draft a coach. That's unfortunate whenever it comes 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.760 to the Dallas Cowboys, And I mean, hey, nothing against 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.560 Mike McCarthy. I like Matt Rule a lot, but Mike 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:45.400 McCarthy's got to make some picks coming up in the 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.160 next couple of months from the Senior Bowl. So winners 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:51.600 and losers from the Senior Bowl. And I hate even 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:53.640 saying the word losers because I feel like it's really 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:57.160 hard to decline whenever you go and you show out 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.480 and you compete at the Senior Bowl. But Dave, you 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:02.400 talk about sitting down and getting everything you got from 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.400 mobile like you have in the past. But were there 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.280 anybody that stuck out as a winner this week in 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:10.480 somebody that really really raised their draft stock more so 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:14.320 than you thought they would going into it. I don't 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.600 know about more so than I thought they would, but like, 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.840 I love it. I love it when a plan comes together. 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:23.240 Because we sat down on Tuesday morning and you know, 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:27.440 Bucky was unavailable, so Jeff Kavanaugh joined our show and 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:31.280 Jeff was like, you better watch this Central Florida safety 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:35.559 Richie grant Ye and I'm like, okay, I'm absolutely so 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.640 Like that day, I sat down with his UCF tape 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:40.920 watched that for about an hour and a half. I 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.480 was like, this guy kicks ass. I like him a lot. 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:47.320 Then I start watching Senior Bowl practice and he's kicking 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.600 assid the Senior Bowl as well, like picking guys off, 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:55.240 batting down passes. You know, watched him on tape. They 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:57.400 used him a variety of different ways. He can cover, 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:01.760 he's not afraid to tackle, he's a good blitzer. And 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:04.960 he took all of that to Mobile and it certainly 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:07.199 seemed to translate because he was definitely one of the 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:11.360 guys that was getting talked about all week long. And uh, 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:14.880 you know, I was very vaguely familiar with him when 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:18.600 last week started, and now he's like one of my favorite, 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:21.000 you know, defensive backs in this class. So I would 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.080 say he had a hell of a week. Yeah, welcome 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:27.360 to the party, David. Hey, nice to have you here. Hey, 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:32.120 as long as I'm here, as long as i'm yeah, matters, 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:35.000 as long as you make the journey. Yeah, you know, Kyle, 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:37.360 if I could stick in the defensive back area too, 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:39.200 I think I didn't know a whole heck of a 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:43.400 lot about Keith Taylor from Washington, and you know, and 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.560 and again when you start to watch the Washington players, 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:49.440 you know, Elijah Molden is a guy that we we 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.000 kind of talk about there and stuff. But Keith Taylor, 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.640 I think really helped himself. Measuring in at six two, 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.920 one hundred eighty eight pounds, you know, we're we're we're 0:14:57.960 --> 0:14:59.920 talking about a guy that's got the length he's got 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.640 at the reach. He was very competitive in the drills. 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:05.240 I remember watching a couple of times where him and 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:07.760 des fit Patrick were going at it pretty good in 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:10.600 the one on one stuff, and so you know, that's 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:13.040 the kind of stuff that you really really need. You know, 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:15.800 when you want to evaluate how's the guy. Is he 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:18.360 around the ball, is he knocking balls down? Is he 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:21.640 making plays? Is he sticking coverage? Is he a long 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:25.600 rangy type of a build. I mean, as Bucky would say, 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:27.520 he checks off a lot of the boxes for you. 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:30.600 So that's one of those guys you have to go 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.000 out there and study. Right now, the Cowboys are going 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:36.880 to be hunting corners, They're going to be hunting safeties. 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:40.360 You know, they're going to be hunting defensive players. Start 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:42.600 with the guys. As you know from what I'm learning 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.280 a lot about what you're going to get from this 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:49.200 from their defensive coordinator now, is that you want these 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:53.000 players they look for long rangy guys is what they're 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:55.360 talking and guys that can run, they're really worried about 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:58.600 the deep part of the field and having to carry that. See, 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:00.480 you got to be able to run, but you got 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:02.200 to have some link to it to be able to 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:04.560 knock down those passes and get your hands on the balls. 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:07.240 Keith Taylor, I thought had a really good week for 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:10.320 from the University of Washington. Man. It's funny because you 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.840 guys have hit two of the guys that really stood 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.040 out to me in the secondary. Obviously, when we're looking 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.400 at it from the Cowboys standpoint, all eyes are on 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:20.000 the secondary and then up front. And so last thing 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:24.720 about Keith Taylor six two five, he's from southern California. 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.040 You know. The only thing that I think those people 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:31.040 who were upset about the Byron Jones situation might find 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:34.040 issue with Keith Taylor because he played three or four 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:37.880 seasons and he doesn't have one career interception. So depending 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:40.840 upon where the ball skills are valued over length, that 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:43.960 could be something. So now it's about you know, we 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:46.120 can't even really have the private workout. So at the 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.720 pro day, Canny catch the ball? How does he play 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:51.000 the ball in the air like that is the uncertainty 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:53.640 that you can't check off in the box. Richie Grant 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:56.840 was fantastic his ability not only to kind of play 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:58.640 from the deep middle, but he can play man to 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:01.240 man and one on once. He was locking people up 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:03.800 and even bounce outside to corner. I think the other 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.280 guy that stood out from Central Florida Robert Rochelle for 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.880 a little bit the first couple of days when you're 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.280 dig in his background, the ten a time in Louisiana 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:13.399 third in the one hundred meters, to go with the 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:16.520 athleticism in the twitch, I think if you're looking for 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:18.840 these corners in this new system, you have to look 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:22.080 for an athlete, because I think that athleticism is going 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:23.840 to be a big part of what they want to 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:25.879 do on the perimeter. Rochelle was how if I can 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:28.440 mention one more guy? Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, go ahead. 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:34.560 I was just gonna say. Rochelle was another Yeah, yeah, sure? 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.040 Did I mean in Central Florida did a nice job, 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:40.240 you know with their Josh Hypel now going to Tennessee. 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:43.000 I mean he's been able to build a nice program 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.159 there at Central Florida. Be interesting to see if he 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:47.600 can kind of fix things in Tennessee. Now, another kid 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:49.600 I want to point out too, on the defensive side 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:52.000 of the ball. And this is one of my favorite schools. 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:55.040 And David Hellman's father went to school here at Tulane, 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:59.040 but Cambridge, Cambridge sample from Tulane. Now, this is a 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.680 kid that six three you two hundred and seventy four pounds. 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:03.800 Where you're gonna play him, You're gonna play him it in? 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.000 Could you play him inside? He's kind of got that 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:07.840 that body that can lend you to do a little 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.240 bit more. But I thought he was a guy as 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:13.640 you watch the drills and stuff like that, the way 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:15.800 he was able to capture the edge, the way he 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.720 was able to put pressure on blockers. Keep an eye 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:22.199 on Cameron's sample going forward here as a guy that 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:25.159 probably could rise up the board. Again, he's got a 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:27.560 good looking body there. He could get the corner, he 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:30.040 can attack, and he's from one of my think one 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:32.119 of my favorite schools. I hope my son ends up 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:34.520 there at two lane. Oh okay, how about that a 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:38.800 little bit. It's a personal thing. Yeah, it's a personal 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:41.400 thing here. No, I watched this kid play a bunches 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:44.480 here again. I love I'm loving two lane football all 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:46.120 of a sudden, I love what really friends and those 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:49.080 guys are doing down there. I think they're getting better players. 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:52.520 And again, Sample was one of those kids. He got 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:55.040 the invite. I think he had I think he had 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:58.720 a great week. I he is that like perfect tweener 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:00.960 with that body, and that's what I thought all week 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:02.840 long when I was watching him. And then I've got 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:04.800 a really close friend Brian, so I've got a kind 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.119 of personal connection there too, that does a lot of 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:10.199 their play by play broadcasting for Tulane. He's like an 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:11.720 alum and does a lot of their play by play. 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:14.480 And I asked him about Cameron Sample prior to the week, 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:17.280 and the only two words he sent me back were badass. 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:19.600 I mean, that's what he said. He loves him, talks 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:22.480 about the tape, talks about the way that he's stronger 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:24.600 than what is two hundred and seventy four pounds looks 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:27.159 at and really that you could see that on the 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:29.600 Senior Bowl tape. And Bucky, I know you were talking 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:32.679 a little bit ago about these defensive backs. I was 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:35.600 really impressed with the defensive backs, just based off of 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:38.280 the fact that it was such a strong wide receiver group, 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:40.800 and I thought the wide receivers would dominate. That was 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:43.320