WEBVTT - John Birch vs. the PTA

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin. I want to read to you from a very

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<v Speaker 1>important historical document, the April nineteen sixty two edition of

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<v Speaker 1>the wellby Way Elementary School Parent Teacher Association newsletter, The

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<v Speaker 1>well Be Buzzings, written of course, by the PTA of

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<v Speaker 1>the elementary school in the West Hills area of Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>First item, President's message. I would like to say thank

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<v Speaker 1>you to the ladies that work so hard on the

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<v Speaker 1>and this is all in caps double parking safety campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>Second item sing along with progress PTA meeting for April.

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<v Speaker 1>Our hostesses will be the sixth grade mothers. Third item

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<v Speaker 1>a meeting on safety in fire prevention. Fourth item an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting and informative trip to the fire station. Fifth item

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<v Speaker 1>the local count meeting. Key detail. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a luncheon. Are you still there? Still awake? Four announcements

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<v Speaker 1>on school safety, a fifth on participatory democracy. A luncheon.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing you're poored to tears. It's all so very PTA.

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<v Speaker 1>The only things missing are the potluck supper, the newspaper drive,

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<v Speaker 1>the book fair. But that's where you're wrong. This newsletter is,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact the skeleton key to understanding our political moment

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Like this exact moment. If you're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>this episode soon after its release, there are two things

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<v Speaker 1>going on in your world, the US presidential election between

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, and more Halloween candy than

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<v Speaker 1>you know what to do with. Well in this episode

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<v Speaker 1>a story that manages to bring both together. It all

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<v Speaker 1>really begins with the Well Being PTA newsletter from April

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty two, and specifically with the sixth and final item,

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<v Speaker 1>the editor's message, which begins the power to seek the

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<v Speaker 1>truth is within all of us. But there are some

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<v Speaker 1>who abuse this freedom and cloud the answers and the issues,

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<v Speaker 1>so that seeking the truth and knowing it is the

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<v Speaker 1>truth becomes a harder task than it was ever meant

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<v Speaker 1>to be. You're listening to Revisionist History, my podcast about

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<v Speaker 1>things overlooked and misunderstood. I'm Malcolm Goldwell. Here's our question, why,

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<v Speaker 1>in this otherwise very dull PTA newsletter does the mother

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<v Speaker 1>who wrote it feel the need to write an urgent

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<v Speaker 1>defense of democracy. She doesn't say, but as my colleague

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<v Speaker 1>BENDADAPF Hafrey discovered, it has to do with a man who,

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps more than almost anyone else, is responsible for creating

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<v Speaker 1>the modern style of far right conspiratorial thinking running rampant today.

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<v Speaker 1>A man who write, at the time that Editor's note

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<v Speaker 1>was published, held in his hands the fate of the

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<v Speaker 1>PTA and American public life. Here's Ben.

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<v Speaker 2>The video is grainy, but you can make out an

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<v Speaker 2>older man, late sixties, standing in a suit and tie

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<v Speaker 2>against a black backdrop, clasping his hands on a lecturn.

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<v Speaker 3>Faithful citizens, wherever.

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<v Speaker 4>You may be.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got big ears, a big nose, and a high

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<v Speaker 2>forehead well suited to an indignant raising of the eyebrows.

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<v Speaker 2>The media coverage of him lately had given him many

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<v Speaker 2>opportunities to do this. As he speaks, the camera pushes in.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a recruitment video.

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<v Speaker 3>It is our deliberate and careful purpose to pull together

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<v Speaker 3>into one group, a body of morally good and truly

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<v Speaker 3>responsible citizens who are proud of each other and of

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<v Speaker 3>the society to which they belong.

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<v Speaker 2>He then proceeds to reassure his viewers that the identities

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<v Speaker 2>of people in this group are never shared with anyone,

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<v Speaker 2>not least of all because their enemies abound.

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<v Speaker 3>The carefully coordinated attacks against us from all points of

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<v Speaker 3>the ideological compass have reached a crescendo stage since the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of this year, with the surprising but visible result

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<v Speaker 3>of solidifying the dedication of our numbers still further, and

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<v Speaker 3>of stimulating their recruiting efforts.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Robert Welch Junior. Consider the facts. He speaks

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<v Speaker 2>a little like a dictator. He seems to run some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of secret society, and consider himself public enemy number one.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is this titan? Well, naturally he's a candy tycoon.

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<v Speaker 2>Robert Welch Junior was born on a former plantation in

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<v Speaker 2>North Carolina just before the turn of the twentieth century.

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<v Speaker 2>As a kid, he was precocious and a daydreamer. Wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to be a writer an intellectual, but he felt that

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<v Speaker 2>before he could do so, he had to get rich.

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<v Speaker 2>So one night, as a young man, he had a brainstorm.

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<v Speaker 2>According to Edward H. Miller, who wrote a biography of

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<v Speaker 2>Welsh called A Conspiratorial Life, Welch stayed up late into

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<v Speaker 2>the evening, writing and writing to answer a single question,

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<v Speaker 2>what specific goods in demand would be best for me

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<v Speaker 2>to start manufacturing without either capital or experience. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a quote Miller found from an associate of Welsh's recalling

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<v Speaker 2>this legendary moment quote. As the sky began to show

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<v Speaker 2>the first streaks of dawn, Robert stared at the notes

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<v Speaker 2>in front of him. One word remained amid the maze

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<v Speaker 2>of dark lines scratched across the pages. That word was candy.

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<v Speaker 2>We've arrived at the Halloween portion of our programming. So

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<v Speaker 2>if in your baskets this year you find the following

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<v Speaker 2>candies Sugar Daddy, Sugar Baby, or the Junior Mint, you're

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<v Speaker 2>encountering a piece of the Welsh legacy, and actually the

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<v Speaker 2>legacy of his brother too, who naturally also worked in

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<v Speaker 2>the candy business. The Welsh nuclear family of Hit candies,

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<v Speaker 2>the patriarch of which the Sugar Daddy, I have to

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<v Speaker 2>say I find totally inedible, has been a mainstay forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Children of the nineteen eighties may remember the jingle for

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<v Speaker 2>Sugar Daddy for.

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<v Speaker 5>Sugar Dirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Welsh was part of what I've come to think of

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<v Speaker 2>as the American sweets aristocracy. I'm talking about a special

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<v Speaker 2>class of confectioners and bakers who turned out to have

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<v Speaker 2>a surprising number of ideas about how society ought to

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<v Speaker 2>be run. In the Pantheon, we have Milton's Navely Hershey,

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<v Speaker 2>whose chocolates were so delectable he was able to put

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<v Speaker 2>his social ideas to the test, building utopian town called Hershey, Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 2>Then there's Sylvester Graham, the clergyman who invented the Graham

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<v Speaker 2>Cracker to combat youth masturbation. John Harvey Kellogg, the Seventh

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<v Speaker 2>day Adventist, who invented cornflakes to do the same. The

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<v Speaker 2>candy makers, in particular tended to be extremely paranoid because

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<v Speaker 2>there was actually quite a bit of spying in their industry.

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<v Speaker 2>They had to guard their secrets, their recipes, their fortunes.

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<v Speaker 2>Some would even blindfold the people who repaired their machines.

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<v Speaker 2>But I digress. After establishing himself in the candy business

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<v Speaker 2>and drinking deeply at the trough of its paranoia, Welch

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<v Speaker 2>set out to elbow his way into the intellectual class,

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<v Speaker 2>specifically the anti communist class. Over the years, he wrote

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<v Speaker 2>a number of articles in books about the rise of communism, including,

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<v Speaker 2>per his biographer, a novel about in ant society oppressed

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<v Speaker 2>by a monolithic state, which somehow went unpublished. But it

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<v Speaker 2>was in nineteen fifty four that one of his ideas

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<v Speaker 2>finally broke through.

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<v Speaker 5>He was very secretive about these because Welch was always

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<v Speaker 5>worried about the Communists as he saw getting a hold

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<v Speaker 5>of what he was saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Historian Matthew Dallak, author of the book Bircher's, talking about

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<v Speaker 2>Welch's penchant for sending secret letters because.

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<v Speaker 5>They exposed him and they damaged you know, the true

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<v Speaker 5>this patriotic movement to destroy communism. It would be it

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<v Speaker 5>would basically be like killing his movement in the crypt.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, the letter he sent in nineteen fifty four, in particular,

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<v Speaker 2>merited sensitivity. It was a roughly nine thousand word attempt

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<v Speaker 2>to explain why he disliked Dwight Eisenhower so much, the

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<v Speaker 2>first Republican president in multiple decades. The letter built to

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<v Speaker 2>the irrefutable conclusion that Dwight Eisenhower was not really a Republican.

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<v Speaker 2>He was quote a dedicated, conscious agent of the Communist conspiracy,

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<v Speaker 2>operating under the direction of his brother, the affable Milton.

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<v Speaker 5>They're really divorced from any semblance of the truth. The

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<v Speaker 5>other thing, though, is that the argument against Eisenhower I

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<v Speaker 5>think fits into the Joe McCarthy argument that clearly the

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<v Speaker 5>setbacks in the world for the United States and the

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<v Speaker 5>fight against communism is a result of communists in the government,

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<v Speaker 5>including Eisenhower, allowing the communists to win.

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<v Speaker 2>Where the ant book had failed, the letter succeeded wildly.

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<v Speaker 2>It ballooned into a book that is over four hundred

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<v Speaker 2>pages long, complete with an extremely tedious footnote section explaining

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<v Speaker 2>the sourcing for his atlandish claims. As wels Us wrote,

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<v Speaker 2>explanations are like government. Nobody loves them, but a minimum

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<v Speaker 2>amount of both is a necessary evil. But anyway, Welch

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<v Speaker 2>was not content to mail secret letters the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>his life. He wanted to build a movement. So four

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<v Speaker 2>years after that letter, in October nineteen fifty eight, Welch

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<v Speaker 2>brought together eleven of his most powerful friends to a

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<v Speaker 2>secret meeting in Indianapolis. He didn't say what for, but

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<v Speaker 2>he did tell them each to book their own hotel

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<v Speaker 2>rooms so people wouldn't see them together. Then he promised

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<v Speaker 2>them that there was nothing conspiratorial about what they were

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<v Speaker 2>about to do, which was to gather in a secret

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<v Speaker 2>location for two days and conspire.

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<v Speaker 3>My undertaking today is to try to tell you all

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<v Speaker 3>about the background, methods, and purposes of the John Birg Society.

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<v Speaker 2>This tape is from a recruitment video he made later on.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't have a recording of what he said that

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<v Speaker 2>day in Indianapolis. I mean, it was a secret meeting,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think it's safe to assume he was on message.

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<v Speaker 2>Welch was there to start a new anti communist organization.

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<v Speaker 2>After all, with the Communists already in control of the

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<v Speaker 2>US presidency, the situation was getting a little out of hand.

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<v Speaker 3>As we have said many times before, the fundamentally decent

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<v Speaker 3>American mind simply refuses to recognize the nature of the

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<v Speaker 3>cunning beasts who constitute our enemies today. This is especially

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<v Speaker 3>true when these criminal gangsters assume all of the suavity

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<v Speaker 3>and regalia of high office.

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<v Speaker 2>Eleven men walked into that room in Indianapolis, and the

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<v Speaker 2>John Birch Society walked out, named by the way for

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<v Speaker 2>an American missionary who'd been killed by Chinese communists and

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<v Speaker 2>then became a kind of patron saint for people like

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<v Speaker 2>Robert Welch Junior. These were important men with money and

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<v Speaker 2>time to burn and an acts to grind. They had

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<v Speaker 2>Eisenhower's former IRS Commissioner, presidents of major companies, a former

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<v Speaker 2>aid to Douglas MacArthur, and Fred Koch, oil man and

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<v Speaker 2>father to the Koch brothers, was there too.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll wake my friends and our rise now I'll be

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<v Speaker 3>forever fallen. We mean business and we can still win,

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<v Speaker 3>but we are in our race against time, with the

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<v Speaker 3>enemy advancing every day.

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<v Speaker 2>Welch knew what he was doing. He took his show

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<v Speaker 2>on the road, giving versions of that speech across the country,

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of the listeners, bored Americans rattled by

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<v Speaker 2>war and freaked out by integration, thought hey, this guy's

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<v Speaker 2>got a point. He started with just his friends who

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<v Speaker 2>thought like he did, then his friend's friends, and then

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<v Speaker 2>his friend's friends friends. But Welch's dreams were always much grander.

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<v Speaker 3>By any realistic appraisal of our size against our need,

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<v Speaker 3>we are still very small, but we certainly expect our

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<v Speaker 3>present growth to continue until we have the million members

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<v Speaker 3>of Ferva page and unassailable character, which is our goal.

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<v Speaker 2>Despite Welsh's vision for one million patriots to join the

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<v Speaker 2>John Birch Society, estimates show that the membership was likely

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<v Speaker 2>at an all time high when it hit thirty thousand

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<v Speaker 2>members in the sixties.

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<v Speaker 5>The mission was not explicitly to take over a political party.

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<v Speaker 5>It was not to even take over in nessilly American institutions.

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<v Speaker 5>It was to wage a mass education campaign to allure Americans,

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<v Speaker 5>to educate them about the dire nature of the communist

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<v Speaker 5>conspiracy inside the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>And so a small but influential group of right wingers

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<v Speaker 2>became convinced that there was a war going on at home.

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<v Speaker 3>A continuous, undeclared war in which our enemiests observed no

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<v Speaker 3>rules of international law, of civilization, or of human decency.

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<v Speaker 2>But where was the front in this war? Exactly two

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<v Speaker 2>years after its founding, the Birch Society had part of

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<v Speaker 2>the answer the Parent Teacher Association. Of course, we'll be

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<v Speaker 2>right back. The bitter Root Valley lies in the southwest

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<v Speaker 2>of Montana, between the Sapphire and Bitterroot Mountains. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>place they filmed Yellowstone Today. It's gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, so small town.

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<v Speaker 2>Gail Laro Munson was a little girl growing up in

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<v Speaker 2>the valley in the nineteen sixties in a town called Darby.

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<v Speaker 2>Back then, its population was three hundred and ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 6>Close snit neighbors looked out for each other. Kids could

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<v Speaker 6>be out till dark and back home they would be safe.

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<v Speaker 6>If you were caught doing something wrong, the neighbors would

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<v Speaker 6>let your parents know and they'd be ready when you

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<v Speaker 6>got home.

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<v Speaker 2>Darby was the kind of place where you knew everyone,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if you were in Gale's family. Her dad, or

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<v Speaker 2>Villa Rowe, was the superintendent of the school district, but

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<v Speaker 2>in the early nineteen sixties, strangers began to show up

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<v Speaker 2>in the valley. Orville was busy right around then getting

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<v Speaker 2>new Bibles for a local school because there as we're

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<v Speaker 2>all beaten up. He asked a local clergyman how to

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<v Speaker 2>get rid of the old ones in a respectful way,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was told to burn them. So he gathered

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<v Speaker 2>up the bibles and set them on fire, and all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, those strangers leapt into action. It turned

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<v Speaker 2>out they were part of a club, the John Birch Society.

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<v Speaker 7>Merch members appeared at the regular school board meeting with

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<v Speaker 7>a petition demanding that Larree not be offered a new contract.

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<v Speaker 2>It was all over the local radio.

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<v Speaker 7>Majority of the board rejected that demand. This action of

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<v Speaker 7>the board intensified an already steady program of intimidation against

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<v Speaker 7>the role in his family.

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<v Speaker 2>The Butchers. Returning Orville's quiet life in Derby with his

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<v Speaker 2>three kids and his wife completely upside down. Here's Orville.

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<v Speaker 8>There are individuals, of course the community who will drive

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<v Speaker 8>by and make obscene signs. There have been an incidents

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<v Speaker 8>where people have called the house my wife had answered

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<v Speaker 8>and have used obscene language on the telephone. Basically, it's

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<v Speaker 8>a joy, simple constant harassment.

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<v Speaker 2>An archivist in Montana named Kristen Gates wrote an essay

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<v Speaker 2>about all this. She found letters from the principle of

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<v Speaker 2>the local school who said the butchers were quote using

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<v Speaker 2>the local PTA as a springboard to infiltrate the schools.

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<v Speaker 2>Here I'm telling you about what unfolded for the LaRose

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<v Speaker 2>in a tiny town in Montana. But they weren't the

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<v Speaker 2>only people involved in local ptas or schools who became targets.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not the case now, but in the nineteen sixties,

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<v Speaker 2>according to one study, almost half of all families in

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<v Speaker 2>America were represented in the PTA fifty percent. The PTA

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<v Speaker 2>became such a well known part of public life that

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<v Speaker 2>it was even the subject of a number one song

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<v Speaker 2>in the nineteen sixties, Harper Valley PTA.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was signed by the secretary Harper Valetta.

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<v Speaker 2>The PTA played a huge role in modernizing American education.

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<v Speaker 2>Every local PTA was part of the National PTA, which

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<v Speaker 2>was run out of Washington, and they worked together to

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<v Speaker 2>petition schools to adapt and modernize, like a miniature version

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<v Speaker 2>of the federal government. It was actually originally called the

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<v Speaker 2>Congress of Mother Anyways, all this paid dividends. If you've

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<v Speaker 2>drunk fluoridated water, which you have gotten vaccinated in schools,

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<v Speaker 2>gone to a public kindergarten, or just been at a

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<v Speaker 2>school that received federal funds, you can thank the PTA

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<v Speaker 2>next bakesale, maybe by a cookie. As a sociologist, Robert

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<v Speaker 2>Putnam writes, the PTA in its day was quote one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most impressive organizational success stories in American history

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<v Speaker 2>end quote. And who at that exact moment wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>pull off another of the most impressive organizational success stories

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<v Speaker 2>in American history Dark Willy Wonka Robert Welch Junior, whose

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<v Speaker 2>recruiting methods were slightly more apocalyptic.

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<v Speaker 3>The Wise and the Brave, do not hold back, gonna

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<v Speaker 3>kill it is too late.

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<v Speaker 2>In its newsletter, the John Birch Society told its members

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<v Speaker 2>to quote join your local PTA at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 2>the school year. Get your conservative friends to do likewise

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<v Speaker 2>and go to work to take it over, you will

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<v Speaker 2>run into real battles against determined leftists who have had

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<v Speaker 2>everything their way. But it is time we went on

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<v Speaker 2>the offensive to make such groups the instrument of conservative

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<v Speaker 2>purpose with the same vigor and determination that the liberals

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<v Speaker 2>have used to the opposite aims. With encouragement from the

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<v Speaker 2>John Birch Society, extremists of all stripes started showing up

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<v Speaker 2>to local ptas across the country trying to take them over.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, all kinds of methods were being used.

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah Heath, a historian at Indiana University Kocomo.

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<v Speaker 4>So, the Birch Society might pack cars full of people,

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<v Speaker 4>so if I bring thirty people to a local meeting

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<v Speaker 4>of a PTA.

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<v Speaker 6>But basically what they.

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<v Speaker 4>Would try to do is, if I can get thirty

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<v Speaker 4>people to go to this one local meeting, we can

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<v Speaker 4>try to take over the proceedings of that meeting.

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<v Speaker 2>Suddenly, amid the conversations about fire safety and participatory democracy,

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<v Speaker 2>parents had to consider things like whether skipping the pledge

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<v Speaker 2>of allegiance at the start of a meeting made you

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<v Speaker 2>a Stalin level communist or an Eisenhower level one. Such

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<v Speaker 2>considerations it turned out demand quite a bit of everyone's.

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<v Speaker 4>Time, because what they wanted to do was first get

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<v Speaker 4>some people to get so tired that they would just say,

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<v Speaker 4>I've got to go home, right. PTA meetings are usually

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<v Speaker 4>in the early evening, so some people would leave. Then

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<v Speaker 4>they call the vote, and then they have a majority.

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<v Speaker 2>The virtuers wanted to use the ptas to reach school

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<v Speaker 2>boards so they could change the textbooks and root out

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<v Speaker 2>all the commune and sex education stuff. But a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of what they did was actual harassment.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. There are examples of people throwing trash on

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<v Speaker 4>the lawns of PTA members, or threatening people by the phone,

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<v Speaker 4>calling them at all hours of the night, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>just to keep them awake.

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<v Speaker 2>The PTA fought back in classic PTA form, with pamphlet

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<v Speaker 2>and lists of meeting best practices, but this was a

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<v Speaker 2>little like bringing knives to a gunfight. At this point,

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<v Speaker 2>there'd even been a report of a bombing at a

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<v Speaker 2>restaurant where a PTA meeting was going to be held.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what happens when you talk about national politics,

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<v Speaker 2>like Robert Welsch Junior, like you're in a shadowy.

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<v Speaker 3>War, a continuous, undeclared war in which our enemies observed

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<v Speaker 3>no rules of international law of civilization are of human decency.

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<v Speaker 2>The PTA kept pushing back in their own way against

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<v Speaker 2>the virtures. There's even a quote from the PTA president

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<v Speaker 2>in the congressional record saying, these extremists are not really

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<v Speaker 2>after the PTA, but are attempting to gain control of

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<v Speaker 2>it to get at their real objective, the educational system.

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<v Speaker 2>But for Orville Row, the superintendent in Darby, Montana, these

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<v Speaker 2>extremists weren't some faraway thing. They were at his doorstep.

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<v Speaker 8>And I walked home in the evening. At times I've

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<v Speaker 8>had a car follow me. Ordinarily, they apparently are cowards

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<v Speaker 8>because when I stopped and gone over to take their

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<v Speaker 8>license them But there was how the picture.

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<v Speaker 2>But the aggression wasn't just limited to Orville. Orville's eldest

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<v Speaker 2>son was a fifth grader in the local school. One day,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a basketball game. He was sitting in the

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<v Speaker 2>stands watching. He was not an unpopular kid, but midway

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<v Speaker 2>through the game, a couple of classmates walked up to him.

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<v Speaker 2>They pulled him out of his seat and they began

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<v Speaker 2>to beat him mercilessly. This is Gail again, his.

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<v Speaker 6>Sister, and when they were beating him up. He was

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<v Speaker 6>at a basketball game in the gym and other kids

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<v Speaker 6>were sturing it on.

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<v Speaker 2>The kids weren't Birchers all they knew he was Orville,

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible Burner's son.

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<v Speaker 8>Then he's coming into the house and ask pissed why

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<v Speaker 8>they are calling him names?

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<v Speaker 3>Is I didn't do anything?

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<v Speaker 8>And of course it's rather had to explain, very youngster

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<v Speaker 8>in that age.

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<v Speaker 6>He came home bloodied, he was We were all confused,

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<v Speaker 6>why you know, what did I do? Why did this happen?

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<v Speaker 2>The tipping point came when Orville le Rowe was driving

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<v Speaker 2>his whole family along one of the roads around Derby.

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<v Speaker 2>Suddenly another car appeared and tried to run them off

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<v Speaker 2>the road. They all could have died, and that was

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<v Speaker 2>the last straw. After years of harassment, he decided it

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<v Speaker 2>was time to leave Derby.

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<v Speaker 6>He sacrificed for the family. And I know that was

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<v Speaker 6>a really difficult thing to not stay in fight, because

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<v Speaker 6>my dad has so much integrity and he's a tough guy,

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<v Speaker 6>and if he hadn't had a family, I firmly believe

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<v Speaker 6>my brothers and I believe he would have stayed and

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<v Speaker 6>he would have fought this situation.

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<v Speaker 2>The people of Derby had a picnic for the LaRose

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<v Speaker 2>before they packed up and left. Montana had been Orville's

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<v Speaker 2>home since he was a kid, the place he'd loved

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<v Speaker 2>to fish and hunt, taught school, and raised a family.

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<v Speaker 2>When the LaRose left, the school system didn't just lose

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<v Speaker 2>its superintendent, It fell apart. There were twenty three teachers

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<v Speaker 2>in the Derby Consolidated School that fall, only seven went

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<v Speaker 2>back to work. Things were never the same for the

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<v Speaker 2>Lereaux family either. When I called the kids up, none

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<v Speaker 2>of them really wanted to talk about this. Then they

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<v Speaker 2>changed their mind, I think, if I had to guess,

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<v Speaker 2>because they wanted to stand up against the people who

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<v Speaker 2>did this to their family, to their father and also

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<v Speaker 2>to their mother.

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<v Speaker 6>Dorothy, mydad said before this happened, she was such a

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<v Speaker 6>fun person, great sense of humor. I'd love to hear

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<v Speaker 6>my dead stories of because I didn't, I didn't witness

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of this, and so you know, we were

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<v Speaker 6>all cheated out of an amazing person. And just I

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<v Speaker 6>just I just can picture her kind of don't don't

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<v Speaker 6>tell you know, the neighbors this, don't tell the neighbors that,

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<v Speaker 6>don't tell anybody this, don't tell anybody this.

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<v Speaker 2>They moved from one small town to another, but Dorothy

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<v Speaker 2>never could quite trust her neighbors again. What came of

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<v Speaker 2>the Birch Society and the PTA after the break? A

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<v Speaker 2>little while ago I stopped by a house in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>It was shaded by a sycamore tree, and there was

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<v Speaker 2>a root sixty six sign leaning in the front windowsill,

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<v Speaker 2>facing the quiet street. I was there to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>a woman named Marva Felchlin. Marva grew up in California

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<v Speaker 2>and was a student at welby Way Elementary School. She

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<v Speaker 2>was a baby boomer in the classical sense, a house

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<v Speaker 2>in a safe and lovely subdivision, a dad in the

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<v Speaker 2>defense industry, and a mom in the PTA that, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Bircher's had tried to take over. Her mom's name was Zelda,

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<v Speaker 2>and she never got over what happened.

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<v Speaker 9>It's a big thing that happened in our lives.

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<v Speaker 5>Why do you think the story had banded to your

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<v Speaker 5>mother so much?

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<v Speaker 9>Because I think you know, the PTA and her activities

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<v Speaker 9>in the PTA probably represented, as with other women in there,

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<v Speaker 9>a lot of what they believed in. And here they're

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<v Speaker 9>being accused of being liars and dishonest and Unamerican. Those

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<v Speaker 9>of those people were probably children of immigrants. I mean,

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<v Speaker 9>that's a serious accusation in those anytime.

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<v Speaker 2>But in those days, Zelda had always wanted to be

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<v Speaker 2>a writer. She once submitted a script to the Twilight Zone,

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<v Speaker 2>but the place she really wrote was her Parent Teacher

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<v Speaker 2>Association newsletter. It's the one we read from at the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of this episode, the April nineteen sixty two edition

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<v Speaker 2>of the welby Way Elementary School PTA newsletter The Well

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<v Speaker 2>be Buzzings With the curious editor's note, Zelda wrote that

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<v Speaker 2>when Bircher's across the country were trying to take down

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<v Speaker 2>the PTA, she took to her newsletter to fight back.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't I'm not surprised that my mother pushed back

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<v Speaker 9>in any way, because that's I think she's kind of

0:27:58.516 --> 0:28:01.316
<v Speaker 9>that kind of personality that she didn't stand for a

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<v Speaker 9>lot of crap.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Marva has held on to the original copy

0:28:06.236 --> 0:28:09.956
<v Speaker 2>of that newsletter for years. I asked her to read

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<v Speaker 2>me the editor's message.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, the power to seek the truth is within all

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<v Speaker 9>of us. The way in which we seek it is

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<v Speaker 9>privilege and right of all of us. We are fortunate

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<v Speaker 9>enough to live under a system of government that secures

0:28:25.196 --> 0:28:28.796
<v Speaker 9>and protects that right. But there are some who abuse

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<v Speaker 9>this freedom and cloud the answers and the issues, so

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<v Speaker 9>that seeking the truth and knowing it is the truth

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<v Speaker 9>becomes a harder task than it was ever meant to be.

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<v Speaker 9>I say this, give me the right to seek the truth,

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<v Speaker 9>but justly, and rationally and kindly. Give me the wisdom

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<v Speaker 9>to understand and recognize the truth simply, without unseen or

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<v Speaker 9>unknown factors behind it. Give me the wisdom to use

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<v Speaker 9>the truth properly, openly, knowingly, and in its entirety, without

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<v Speaker 9>bending or twisting said truth to fit my own purposes.

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<v Speaker 9>Give me the graciousness to accept the truth, although it

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<v Speaker 9>may disagree with or disapprove my own personal opinions and beliefs.

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<v Speaker 9>And last, give me the wisdom and right to seek

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<v Speaker 9>the truth in whatever manner I so choose, so long

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<v Speaker 9>as I in the manner I have chosen, do not

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<v Speaker 9>belittle or deface the object of my search, so long

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<v Speaker 9>as I can honestly say to myself it is the

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<v Speaker 9>truth alone that I am seeking. So the last off editor.

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<v Speaker 2>During those same years when Bircher's were mobbing PTA meetings,

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<v Speaker 2>the PTA as a national organization began to die for good.

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<v Speaker 2>It just kept losing members until it became effectively a

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<v Speaker 2>loose group of local organizations. It still exists, but you

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't write a number one song about it anymore. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think that was all the doing of the Birch Society,

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<v Speaker 2>though it certainly didn't help. The rise of the Butchers

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<v Speaker 2>in the fall of the PTA were both part of

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<v Speaker 2>the backlash to Brown versus Board of Education, a response

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<v Speaker 2>to integration and civil rights. The Birch Society went into

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<v Speaker 2>decline then too. It had become radioactive, mocked to death

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<v Speaker 2>in the press, repudiated by even William F. Buckley, turned

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<v Speaker 2>on by mainstream Republicans, torn by its own infighting, investigated

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<v Speaker 2>by the Anti Defamation League in the FBI, but it

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<v Speaker 2>never vanished. Robert Welch Junior was involved with the Birch

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<v Speaker 2>Society almost until his death in nineteen eighty five. Under

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<v Speaker 2>the presidency of Ronald Reagan, who, true to form wels

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<v Speaker 2>once called a communist Lackeye, his society lives on in

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<v Speaker 2>diminished form these days. They're a lot less notable. They're

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<v Speaker 2>just one in a sea of right wing groups. But

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<v Speaker 2>why did people like Welsh hate the Parent Teacher Association

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<v Speaker 2>so much it seems to me like the Birch Society

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<v Speaker 2>and the PTA were locked in a kind of death

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<v Speaker 2>match between two visions of American civil society. The PTA

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<v Speaker 2>was the vision of the America and Vital Center, progressive, orderly, incremental,

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<v Speaker 2>and evidence based. Its model was the US federal system,

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<v Speaker 2>local and national working patiently together. But the John Birch

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<v Speaker 2>Society was modeled on communist cells, secretive with hard caps

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<v Speaker 2>on membership to keep things decentralized rather than optimistic. It

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<v Speaker 2>was paranoid rather than incremental. They called for kind of revolution.

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<v Speaker 2>The PTA was about trusting your neighbors to share your

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<v Speaker 2>interests too. The John Birch Society was about always suspecting

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<v Speaker 2>them of betraying you. I don't know if that sounds

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<v Speaker 2>familiar to you, but it shure does to me. Revisionist

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<v Speaker 2>History is produced by me Ben Att, Fhaffrey, and Lucy

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<v Speaker 2>Sullivan with Nina Bird Lawrens. Our editor is Karen Schakerji.

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<v Speaker 2>Fact checking on this episode by Sam Russick. Original scoring

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<v Speaker 2>by Luis Gara, mastering by Jake Gorski. Our executive producer

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<v Speaker 2>is Jacob Smith. Special thanks to Sarah Nix, the State

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<v Speaker 2>Historical Society of North Dakota, the University of Montana, and

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<v Speaker 2>the UCLA Library Special Collections. I'm Ben Mattafaffor