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Speaker 1: Apollo talking about money in the middle, brillly in the middle,

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Speaker 3: Know what it is, your boy, Jada, This is the

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Speaker 3: Joe and Jadas Show. Every show legendary, every show iconic.

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Speaker 3: Today is very special. Not only do we have an iconic,

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Speaker 3: You have somebody that contacted me to get on the show,

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Speaker 1: Begad.

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Speaker 4: The fact of that for my business partner over here

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Speaker 4: He might have asked our first. It might have been expensive,

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Speaker 4: It happens to the best of us. But you know,

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Speaker 3: Into a deep conversation, ladies and gentlemen. Makes some noise

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Speaker 3: for to guests today, moody long.

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Speaker 1: Yo, that legend legendary introduction. You like that right?

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Speaker 2: Money observed that mony yo?

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Speaker 1: I wish yet No y'all did that deliberately. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: I prold it all.

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Speaker 1: You guys did that deliberately.

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Speaker 2: You're the first artist to be in the middle. I said, y'all,

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Speaker 3: I like, you're like, man, you made the middle famous.

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Speaker 1: Can I please tell you? I had no intention of

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Speaker 1: I mean surpassing. You go to your kids school, the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you should have patten. She's supposed to get some

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Speaker 1: Anything besides the song doing well. And it was the

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Speaker 3: She's like the female mill schlick rick bitch with Dana Day.

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Speaker 3: How could you still got such a strong action at

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Speaker 3: the being Hevid, You've seen everything in there.

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Speaker 1: I'm that strong. So this is that strong.

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Speaker 5: Now they robbed everybody at the back, every everybody.

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Speaker 5: I never said, Rob Basse, Yeah, well you know I

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Speaker 1: All of them, man, all of them loved the run based.

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Speaker 1: She'd be like, Yo, that's dope. I'll be like, and

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Speaker 1: How do we know? Giving me goosebumps, you're Chris's artists,

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Speaker 1: my problem. You ain't got my money, right everybody else.

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Speaker 1: Chris has always been thorough, so it was no surprise

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Speaker 1: We're all looking at you like, that's our little brother,

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Speaker 5: You know what I man put beyond man changed my life.

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Speaker 5: You know he came, I was in the streets signed

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Speaker 5: me And what was crazy now that you saying that, right,

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Speaker 5: because I know christpins Streets every time I did an

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Speaker 5: Chris ain't want to hit, he'd be like, yo fat

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Speaker 5: He used to sit there. I don't think he ever

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Speaker 5: this that shit He was just so proud of us,

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Speaker 5: you know, you know, like everybody you know, like d J.

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Speaker 5: Galla was Terror Squad, then he went and made me

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Speaker 5: the best. So if you if you're about the culture,

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Speaker 2: From Rough Riders.

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Speaker 5: So even though I went and did my own thing,

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Speaker 5: Chris Lidy would come to the album released for Big

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Speaker 5: Pond Now he felt like you saying, Yo, that's our

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Speaker 5: little brother. He don't know it. He would show up

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Speaker 5: when they saying Fat Joe's the Terror Squad, the Big

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Speaker 2: And he'd be like, yo, proud of you, and then

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Speaker 2: walk out the joint. You know what I'm saying. Russell

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Speaker 5: Russell Simmons every time we did some Terrorist Squad album

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Speaker 2: It's a flag.

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Speaker 5: That you know, they got these things here that you

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Speaker 1: Mon he's chilling, man, She ain't down with that ship.

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Speaker 1: You know what, man? Do I have that? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You have it. Everybody has it.

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Speaker 5: I do okay, okay, the way they usually do it

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Speaker 5: time before we record. Joe says some dumb shit. What

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Speaker 1: That it was originally made for you flag on the play.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to say that I want to ask her

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Speaker 4: a nice amount of time. Yeah, but when you seem

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Speaker 4: it seemed like, I don't know, is it the money,

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Speaker 4: is it.

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Speaker 7: The success of now or that changed.

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Speaker 4: Even though something, it's still we're gonna make sure the

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Speaker 4: females is always good if we somewhere at Redmansdale or anybody. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's just because we from a different cloth. But I'm

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Speaker 4: now is when the females is rocking, it's just like

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Speaker 4: the female is not.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: They segregated the game.

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Speaker 1: I think I know what you're saying. Are you saying that?

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Speaker 1: Like you've noticed that a lot of the successful women

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like that is that? Is that

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Speaker 1: more or less what you're saying, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I definitely think that women do have

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Speaker 1: Let's let's wear your crew. You got remy and it's

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Speaker 5: You know what I was thinking about when in Miami

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Speaker 7: Incredible experience, incredible.

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Speaker 5: And I'm standing on the sideline and I see all

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Speaker 5: Do you think they watched footage of these legends? Like

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Speaker 5: why is this og keep screaming at me telling me

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Speaker 8: Now?

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Speaker 2: Do they go to the video?

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Speaker 4: You know, I think the coaches, you know, like Coach

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Speaker 4: ones that want to make it, they really want to

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Speaker 4: see who their forefathers was at that position last time

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Speaker 4: they won the chip?

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Speaker 7: Who was the best at this particular position?

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Speaker 1: Is you know what I mean? It starts here right.

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Speaker 5: When they listen to us, like y'all bo these allegend,

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Speaker 1: Okay? So do y'all think that the younger, the newer

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Speaker 4: That's why I actually knows everything, every one of your projects,

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Speaker 1: Say her name again? And that's why she's an anomaly.

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Speaker 2: A fact.

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Speaker 1: Well, you asked me to give you one. No, but

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm the reason why am I gonna get

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Speaker 1: a flag? Right now? I got a flag. I got

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Speaker 1: a flair. But that's but that's why I asked you

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Speaker 1: that specifically because you said. Key thing that you said

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Speaker 1: Because I think that the viral explosion and and and

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Speaker 1: And so that's why, and so that's why it's some

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. You don't have to learn everything from your

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Speaker 1: That's why it's called research, right, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You know, in fact, Joe's wicked way thinking.

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Speaker 5: You know, a guy like Floyd maywhether his uncle is

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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 5: Floyd watched a lot of take Okay, I watched one

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Speaker 2: Guy was on.

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Speaker 5: Stuck the whole style like in the seventh rownd and

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Speaker 2: He beat the guy senseless for the rest of the fight.

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Speaker 5: When they interviewed him, he was like, yo, I mean

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Speaker 5: he was ready for me, and I switched up.

437
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Speaker 1: To Jack Dempsey.

438
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 2: You know, like I thought about the fight Jack Dempsey.

439
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Speaker 5: It's so I don't know if it was Jack Dempsey,

440
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 5: but he said one of them old guys, and he

441
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 5: was like, yo, from watching the film, I had to

442
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Speaker 5: figure out who I had to fight, like to beat

443
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Speaker 5: this guy because if I'm just straight up Floyd Mayweather,

444
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 5: he got my number. So about the sixth round, he

445
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 5: just switched the whole style up on him and was

446
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Speaker 5: like killed him.

447
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Speaker 1: Like killed them. But he was like, and I remember looking,

448
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: I so damn he really watches the footage chasing point.

449
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: That's it right there, And you're talking and that was

450
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Speaker 1: a beautiful analogy because you're talking about about boxing, which

451
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Speaker 1: is another fine art within itself. And I'm saying it

452
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Speaker 1: makes sense, you know what I'm saying. And to bring

453
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Speaker 1: it back to hip hop, how you think when the

454
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: DJ battles were going down right back in the days,

455
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: and how you think they got nice enough to be

456
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Speaker 1: able to get to the world final championships and go

457
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: up against each other's because they're all sitting watching tapes.

458
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Speaker 1: I said it in another interview. One time they're sitting

459
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: Clark Kent would sit in his basement and have some

460
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Speaker 1: of us sit there in his basement and watch videotapes

461
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: of other DJs and their routines as see. Look you

462
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 1: see when Jazzy Jeff did this right here, Moony you see.

463
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there like, I'm an MC. Why am

464
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Speaker 1: I here? You know what I'm saying, all.

465
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Speaker 7: Of djyes, why am I here?

466
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Speaker 1: No? But I'm trying to show you something because Clark can'

467
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Speaker 1: did make me learn how to dj.

468
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Speaker 2: A DJ.

469
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I want to shout out rock Radar and

470
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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. That's another one. That's another one. Yeah,

471
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 1: give it up. That's another one. That's another one right there.

472
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Speaker 5: That the scratches on flow Joe. See, Raider was like

473
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Speaker 5: damn with digging in the crates.

474
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Speaker 1: Absolutely. I don't know.

475
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Speaker 5: Exactly how, but he was down with us, and whenever

476
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 5: we need his scratches, I'd be like, you're right.

477
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Speaker 2: He was the coolest guy in the world.

478
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Speaker 1: And rock Raider is nasty. Rock Raider was nasty, Like

479
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Speaker 1: I noticed. I remember this yelling at and he.

480
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Speaker 5: Was smiling while he's doing the moves and the roucines

481
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Speaker 5: like rock Rader was exactly super smooth.

482
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Speaker 1: And so it was the same thing with mcin same

483
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Speaker 1: thing like for me. I used to listen to set

484
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Speaker 1: it off by Big Daddy Kane, Like how singers have

485
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Speaker 1: people that they do the scales with singers and trainers

486
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Speaker 1: that be you know, let's do the scales and stuff

487
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 1: like that to get their voices right. I used to

488
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Speaker 1: listen to Big Daddy Kane set it off to get

489
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Speaker 1: myself right because it was a chopping let it get

490
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Speaker 1: bull I just can't hold, but you know what I'm saying,

491
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Speaker 1: and I would be doing that. I could disco take

492
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Speaker 1: in the school's well's next. You know what? You get

493
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Speaker 1: your mouth right. You know what I'm saying, and that's

494
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Speaker 1: how I developed a style to be on some excuse me,

495
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: but I think I'm about to get into precisely what

496
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Speaker 1: I am about to do. I'm compensating to the folks

497
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Speaker 1: weapon what's the web clue? So listen very carefully. Is

498
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Speaker 1: I break it down for you? Remember you may you

499
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Doubt to bring it back to

500
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Speaker 1: what you're saying. Absolutely, The study of what comes before

501
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: you is what helps to make you great at what

502
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Speaker 1: you do in any field.

503
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Speaker 4: Clock forced you to learn how to did you did you?

504
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 4: What did you take with that?

505
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Speaker 1: It gave me a deeper respect for hip hop in

506
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Speaker 1: itself because I started in London when we first embraced

507
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Speaker 1: the culture. I wasn't rhyming at first. I was I

508
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: was breaking. I was a beager girl. Yeah too, right,

509
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Speaker 1: So it allowed me to embrace another element of the culture.

510
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Speaker 1: When Clock was like, no, you're gonna learn, You're gonna

511
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: learn how to bring a record back, You're gonna learn

512
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Speaker 1: how to recognize it here. I put the tape markings

513
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Speaker 1: on it. That's the one. Bring it back to the one.

514
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: Flip the fader. Bring it back to the one. Flip

515
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Speaker 1: the fader. Put the earphones on one side, have the

516
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: other air kind of open so you can hear what's

517
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Speaker 1: going on. Bring it back, flip the favor, Bring it back,

518
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: flip the failure. You know what I'm saying, Cut it back,

519
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Speaker 1: cut me around something.

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00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 2: You know, graffiti.

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00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 5: I just didn't made a train the other day, New

522
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 5: York City train the other day.

523
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 2: Huh, it's spray paint.

524
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: Man. You don't know. I'm a graffiti.

525
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 5: I watched you doing your No, I'm gonna show you

526
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 5: the pictures being byered. But listen, so graffiti of the

527
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 5: boy came out the brook. One thing I try to

528
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 5: do is DJ, and that sucked. I've never ever successfully nowhere,

529
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Speaker 5: And you all used to go to storage house every

530
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Speaker 5: day and I just sucked.

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Speaker 1: Like there's nothing that I can't DJ. But you can't write.

532
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: Huh but you can't? You you right? Tag you? Okay,

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Speaker 1: well then you got that. You got I got to

534
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Speaker 1: you break down. Yeah, I still do. I still get on.

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Speaker 5: We got fluidding I mean I still got w.

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Speaker 1: Missen.

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Speaker 2: Let's step back to like social media.

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Speaker 5: If you think now is the birth of moony love

570
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Speaker 5: and there's social media, do you think your career would

571
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Speaker 5: have been super amplified more now that they're social media.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I think any of us, any of us from

573
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Speaker 1: my era or y'all, because I'm the big sister, y'all,

574
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: my little brothers, you know what I mean, So go

575
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Speaker 1: back to me, Go back to your big sister and

576
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: all of my set. If we had the platform of

577
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Speaker 1: all of these platforms. Now, absolutely everything would have just

578
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: been magnified for sure, you know what I mean, that's

579
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Speaker 1: a fact.

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00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 5: And who do you think there's a female artist that

581
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 5: does social media well uses it now and you'd be like, man,

582
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 5: she know what she knows how to play that game.

583
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: Oh we all know that's Cardi Cardi. Yeah, I mean

584
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: that's just that's that's a no brainer. That's an absolutely,

585
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: that's a that's a no brainer. She could wake up

586
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: first thing in the morning and don't even be any

587
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: of her outfits yet. And it's a top post because

588
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: there's always a level of relatability in there, you know

589
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: what I mean, she just without even trying.

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00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, I always said people loved her first, and then

591
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 5: she made great music and then it is addict I

592
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 5: think that's really and then and then she just hited

593
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 5: out the bar with.

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Speaker 1: That boat act dealer like her first. You for saying

595
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: that I did like her first before anything, Yeah, I did.

596
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: And and and what's really cool for me about Carti

597
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: is regardless to the fact that she's like, she's not

598
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: my age group, right, So like some people would be like, well,

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00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: how do you how do you relate to CARTI b

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Speaker 1: at all. For me, it's her mother ring when she

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00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: wakes up and she has her her whatever gripes she's

602
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: having that morning about being a mom, or the kids

603
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: is doing this or acting up or whatever, and oh

604
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: I got to get this, and kids making any little

605
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: remarks in the background. I get it because when I

606
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: look at it, I'm like, oh my God. And then

607
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: I'll say to my daughter, who's in here, right, I'll

608
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: be like Chanlene to look at this. You remember when

609
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: I used to guys used to say things and embarrass me,

610
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: and then I used to do this or I used

611
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: to say that to you guys. It's just I find

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00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: all of these relatable moments in her parent world for me.

613
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: And I had four kids, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: At her age, I didn't no no car Cardi beat

615
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: me a little bit. I wasn't having more. I spread

616
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: mine out a little bit more. But I do have

617
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Speaker 1: the same amount of kids as well.

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Speaker 2: Cardi Mike hearty.

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Speaker 1: Next week, I'm pregnant again, guys.

620
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Speaker 5: She and I think she's the first female the ever

621
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 5: intentionally got pregnant in her prime and still worked and

622
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 5: went on to our pregnant still popped.

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Speaker 1: Up intentionally maybe, but first no, that was me. And

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00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: you can pull up the tape from our sinio. You

625
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: can pull up the tape from you was pregnant on them?

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00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I was.

627
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: I was on showtime at the Apollo talking about money

628
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Speaker 1: in the middle, really in the middle, money in the middle,

629
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Speaker 1: brill in the middle. That's a fun time. The tape up.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that, because that's another reason, one

631
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Speaker 1: of my early reasons why I related to Cardi, because

632
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: when she was pregnant that first time and came out

633
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Speaker 1: and was like on stage and publicly and everything, I

634
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: was like because I understood it because I was there.

635
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: I was in that exact position on stage front doing everything.

636
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Speaker 5: On every thing they used to do with hip hop,

637
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 5: and they probably still do it. That's why I hate

638
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 5: these people. The business always got like the stereotype like

639
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Speaker 5: a female artist can't have a voice.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, they shamed us. They shamed us, especially in

641
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: my time. They shamed us like the record label. I

642
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: was signed to Chris List in England, but I was

643
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: signed to Warner Brothers to the United States and Canada,

644
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Speaker 1: and I was pretty much without them actually saying it,

645
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Speaker 1: like I was three months pregnant with my daughter that's

646
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: in here, my oldest one now right, she's thirty four.

647
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: I was three months pregnant with her, and on the

648
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: label reps were like, well, what are you gonna do?

649
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 1: And I was like, I said, I'm three months pregnant.

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00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: What you mean what I'm gonna do? Well, you know

651
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? And I'm like, it means

652
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: I'm having a baby.

653
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 7: Like what you think it means?

654
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: Like they're telling you taking abortion.

655
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: Get without saying it, without saying it, you know what

656
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying the record rep at the time, and I was,

657
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: I was just like I was ninety sexist business. I

658
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: was because it was that summer around my birthday that

659
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: I that I found out, right, And so she was

660
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: born right before I turned twenty one, right because I

661
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: was twenty when I found out I was pregnant. So

662
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 1: by the time I turned twenty one, she was here.

663
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: I thought back to the time, and I'm like, I'm

664
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: so glad I made that this, Like there's nothing I

665
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: would It would have never went any other way, you

666
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And my kid, my daughter has

667
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: asked me that before. She's like, mom, do you think

668
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: that you would have did it any differently and maybe

669
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: you would have not had kids so early? And I

670
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: was like, no, if it happened all over again, I

671
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 1: would have did it the same way all over again.

672
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't a question for me. And that again,

673
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: bringing it back to Cardi is another reason why she

674
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: spoke to me, and that's and that's why I took

675
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: a like answers.

676
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 5: I'm sure they were telling that you're a signa in Boo,

677
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 5: you're you're that, And she was like, no, I'm pregnant.

678
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: I'm outside, like because Bailly outside women.

679
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: Were having babies but they were hiding it.

680
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Right. It was on tour, so I was seven

681
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: months pregnant. I was on the Triple Threat tour, Bell

682
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: Biv Devaux, Keith Sweat and Johnny Gillow and I opened

683
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: up for them till I was seven months pregnant. You know,

684
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 1: the workflow, It continues, The workflow continues.

685
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 3: Did you ever think you would lead into getting into radio?

686
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: No?

687
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 7: Why did that happen?

688
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: That was an accident. Do y'all remember Steve Smith? Yes,

689
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: God rest his soul because he passed away. M hm.

690
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: Steve Smith actually is the person that created Hot ninety

691
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: seven as what it was the flagship in the first place.

692
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 5: Right.

693
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: He called my manager one day and by that time

694
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: he had had certain people in place already at the station.

695
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: It was newly flipped, and you was there already, and

696
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: you was at the station before it flipped to hip

697
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: hop format exactly. She was already there so and I

698
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: think she worked her way up. She's like foundational at

699
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: that station, right, flex was there already and I think

700
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: they had ed and dre on in the morning. And

701
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 1: Steve Smith called my manager one day and was like, oh,

702
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: do you think you could come in and take a

703
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: meeting with me and you know, to discuss maybe more.

704
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: He loved being on the radio. So my manager, my

705
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: manager came from England with me. My manager's name is Steve.

706
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: He's from Liverpool, right, which is outside of London. So

707
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: we went. He didn't tell me what we were going

708
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: there for. In the sack. Spoke to Steve Smith. He's like,

709
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: what do you think about being on a radio? And

710
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: I was like, I am on the radio. My music's

711
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: played on the radio, right, And he was like, no,

712
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: being an actual radio personality, I was like like a

713
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: disc jockey like, why would I want to do that?

714
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: And he was like, I think you have a really

715
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: good personality. I was like, yeah, but I'm on the

716
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: other side getting interviewed by the disc jockey. I don't

717
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: see myself as a disc jockey, right. So he's like,

718
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: let me teach you, let me help you get your

719
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: FCC license. What's an FCC license nowadays?

720
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 6: Huh?

721
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: Nobody needs an FCC license to be on a radio now,

722
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: but back then you had to have an FCC license.

723
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: So I trained on air in the unsociable hours so

724
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: nobody could hear me because there was a lot of

725
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: mess ups and as a matter of fact, myself a

726
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: miss Jones, we were training at the same time together

727
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 1: on the radio at two o'clock in the morning, talking

728
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: about our love lives and how we can't stand these men,

729
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: not realizing the microphone was on. This is the type

730
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 1: of mistakes we were making on air at two o'clock

731
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: in the morning as we trained to get our FCC licenses,

732
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So the bottom line, we

733
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: got out FCC license. I got mine and then I

734
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: was on weekends on Hot ninety seven. Tracy Cloherty that

735
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: was working underneath seat or remember Tracy. She used to

736
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: put me on all the time. And whenever Angie went

737
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: on vacation or whenever Wendy went on vacation, I was

738
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: the go to, like, we need you to work two weeks,

739
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: Wendy's going on vacation for her birthday or whatever it is,

740
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: we need you to work. Or Angie's taken off of vacation,

741
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: We need you to work. Angie doesn't want anybody else

742
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: interviewing her guests, but you can do it. Angie said,

743
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: she'd trusts you, blah blah blah. So that's how I

744
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: got my chops in radio, you know. And then I

745
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: was at Hot ninety seven for ten years. I was

746
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: there for ten years, and the year that I left

747
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: and went over to Power one of five to one

748
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: was when Steve Smith been left Hot ninety seven, went

749
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: away for a little while, came back and then created

750
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: Power on a five one. Yeah and yeah, and then

751
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: I got hired over there. And the year that I

752
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: my first year of working there was the year when

753
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: there was a lot of mess happening between Hot ninety

754
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: seven and Power on a five to one that involved

755
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: jay Z, that involved NAS that involved some noose hanging

756
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 1: thing that was supposed to happen.

757
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 2: Turning power to switch.

758
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 5: The first thing they was doing at power is they

759
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 5: was making the hardest duties almost that said I made switch.

760
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: That was like that was you got to understand how.

761
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 5: Named seven in the whole country was known like the

762
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 5: first full hip hop station, and they had so much

763
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 5: power and leverage in this market. Think about New York

764
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 5: City didn't have two stations. It was just High ninety seven.

765
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 5: And when Power opened up, the first thing was like

766
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 5: your lots come here, say you made this switch. As

767
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 5: an artist, you was scared because Hogh ninety seven was

768
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 5: saying you could go over there. But if you say

769
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 5: you made this switch, don't come back here, come back.

770
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean it was a real you know yo, you

771
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: know New York so serious. I wasn't. I was. I wasn't.

772
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: I was the power of five to one, still going

773
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: this summer jam, like I was chilling the kid. This

774
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 1: My daughter just in here right teen at that time,

775
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 1: we're going where I'm going to summer jam. She wants

776
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 1: to go. I got her tickets. We go. We're sitting

777
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: in the stands watching the show. Okay, Styles is on

778
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: stage doing I get it.

779
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 7: Right every day.

780
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: My daughter's next to me. I get I was like,

781
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: what every day right? Right? And then while we're there

782
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: doing that, Patty Duke comes up the stairs to where

783
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: the section I'm sitting and he's like, you know what's

784
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: going on at your station right now? With the mean

785
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: twist face, and I'm like what he was like, nas

786
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: is on ear right now talking smile. I was like,

787
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: what that got to do with me. I'm at the concert,

788
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: my daughter's singing, I get high. I'm like, but it

789
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 1: was serious, like the beefing.

790
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 2: It also happened. You know.

791
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 5: What also happened was because I'm a prime example of that, right,

792
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 5: Like prime example I had, Like if I had beef

793
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 5: for fifty cent and somebody I thought I was cool here,

794
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 5: or I gave an opportunity or I put in the

795
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 5: game rocked with them in any way, I was tight.

796
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 2: I'm just like, Yo, we're not rocking no more. We're not.

797
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 5: You know it's over like this that you got to

798
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 5: pick a side, and I just think all of that

799
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 5: Biggie Tupac all that it was the first time that

800
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 5: type of stuff was happening, and.

801
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 2: We didn't really know how to react.

802
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 5: Now when I look at a hip hop beef, I've

803
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 5: seen it forty times a betty, so I really know

804
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 5: how this thing's gonna play out, whether in a good

805
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 5: way or a bad way. You know, back in the day,

806
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 5: somebody disched you you have to jump out. You didn't

807
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 5: have to, but that's how it was. You jump out.

808
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 5: Now you got eight guys, this and the a fifty cent.

809
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 5: Guess what he ain't put gas in the car. He said,

810
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 5: I ain't even talking about I don't care.

811
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 2: And it went away.

812
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 5: You know, but that's after years of watching rap beefs

813
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 5: on fold and what happens and this and this and that.

814
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 5: That's after experience. But when that first came out, it

815
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 5: was like High ninety seven was the only show in town.

816
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: That power came out of nass up.

817
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: There and what are we gonna do? The world is sad?

818
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: You know what I wanted to ask you. I know

819
00:42:58,640 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: it was real.

820
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 4: When the label, the label joffer single or drop of project,

821
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 4: they send you out in ninety seven, they do whatever

822
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 4: they do, boom boom boom.

823
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 7: Then they pat you on the back.

824
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: Well you got your own relationship with power and then

825
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: go you take that what the fuck is? That's what

826
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: I would That's what I wanted to tell ask you.

827
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 4: You're literally telling me you only supporting me over at

828
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 4: this I gotta go hand Lou, that's the fun.

829
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to ask you to because at

830
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: that time it was different for me because I hadn't

831
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: transitioned into being on radio by that time. I was.

832
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: I was being on air eleven twelve years, so I

833
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: had transitioned. You guys were still actively putting music out.

834
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: So how was that.

835
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 5: I've always been a boss, so like I've always worked

836
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 5: my own records. I've always worked like you know. It

837
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 5: was different from me. Even George halfway during my career,

838
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 5: I had like this debution deals. I didn't have way

839
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 5: I gotta I'm signed to the Laby. So the thing

840
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 5: I knew, I knew the real politics, like I still

841
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 5: know the real politics.

842
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 2: So the real.

843
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 5: Politics is Yeah, Hot ninety seven is the grandfather of

844
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 5: this shit and they want it, and we gotta be

845
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 5: a little bit loyal to them because they did put

846
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 5: us in the game. They played Flow Joe first, so

847
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 5: we gotta be like that. But they were also telling

848
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 5: me Power one on five is owned by a company

849
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 5: that owns forty other radio stations. So if you try

850
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 5: to front on Power one O five, they will not

851
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 5: play your shit in America. So now what do you want?

852
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 5: You want to keep it real way hot ninety seven. Meanwhile,

853
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 5: you got call it what it is. You got dictators

854
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 5: like ebro on fucking hot ninety seven, like you don't

855
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 5: come here, we run this shot he go, people like that.

856
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: So I need my water now, hold on, hold on,

857
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: I need my yeah, yeah, yeah, I need my water now. People,

858
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: this is you just now I'm getting a hot flash.

859
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 1: You just bought some other ship on this because you're

860
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: there now.

861
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 5: No, I'm just trying to say that people like that

862
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 5: were like trying to control the game, you know, almost

863
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 5: like in the muscle way, but without flexing the muscle.

864
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 5: But just like you know, we won't play ship. We've

865
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 5: got the number one station, We did this, this and that.

866
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 5: And he was quick to be like, yo, matter of fact,

867
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 5: we know you've seen that interview when the man told

868
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 5: Kodak Black he's the hottest guy in the world. Remember,

869
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 5: get out of you if you want leave, Like he

870
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 5: was bigger than Kodak Black, like they was. I'm not

871
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 5: singling in our ebo because it was a lot of

872
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 5: that ship there when they felt like, y'all, we birthed

873
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 5: y'all this, we got to them, and then y'all going

874
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 5: over there.

875
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: But what day was up against.

876
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 5: What they didn't realize is that that station came with

877
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 5: forty other stations. So it was like, do you want

878
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 5: to be the hottest on High ninety seven, which we

879
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 5: all know and loved, or you want to get played

880
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 5: in forty other stations. Now if you go over here,

881
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 5: you say, fuk power, You're done in the country.

882
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: Yo. It was that type of shit.

883
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 5: Going on, and so you had the final way to

884
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 5: finagle both situations.

885
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: It was hard, That's what I thought. It was just

886
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: really really really hard. And it's not fair because y'all,

887
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: but you had to do. We just want to make

888
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, y'all. As an artist, you shouldn't

889
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: have to worry about that. You shouldn't have to worry

890
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: about that. Should just be creating, you know, the art,

891
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: and then let that rock and then bring it to

892
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 1: the cities and perform it. Shouldn't have to worry about

893
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: the politics of the radio stations, which none of us own.

894
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: Shares in. You know what I'm saying. So that's that's

895
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: what and that is that is my lass.

896
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 5: What you say ya, he said, say it's slow walk

897
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 5: slow to talk slow to them. Yeah, that's like motherfucker's

898
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 5: dying over the hood talking about this my block.

899
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 2: They don't own ship, not.

900
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: Even the ship. They live it, you know. But but

901
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: that is why bringing it back to me being at

902
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 1: the concert when that was happening, and that whole thing

903
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 1: was happening on air, on power with nas and all

904
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: of that.

905
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 5: You know, that's why thaithing yo, I just got a

906
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 5: better job, but we still family.

907
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: I worked with y'all fi which exactly, and my daughter

908
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: wanted to come to summer jam. Like I knew that it.

909
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 4: Was cracking ship when I went to one of the women,

910
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 4: the other one that a little radio over there playing.

911
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 7: The other one than the other one that a little ready.

912
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 4: Oh it was listening to what every Yeah, you know

913
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 4: the power They got a little radio tuned in in

914
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 4: ninety seven.

915
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 5: You go over there, simony, tell me a couple of

916
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 5: female artists that you respect their contribution to the game,

917
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 5: you know, from day one till now.

918
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:07,919
Speaker 1: Oh, I love this question. Okay, Pebbly Pooh. I love

919
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: me some Pebbly Pooh because when I first came here

920
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: and people in this country first started hurting hearing me rhyme,

921
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: a lot of the elders at that time, when I

922
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: was a baby in the game told me that I

923
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: remind them of Pebbly Pooh. And so I started listening

924
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: to her, and she instantly was like one of my favorites.

925
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: Roxanne Chante put the battery in my back because because

926
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: she was fearless, she was fearless. She'd take on anyone, anywhere, anytime,

927
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. So watching her and listening to her that

928
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: gave me the courage that I needed to leave, to

929
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: leave the bathroom and not stop being a toothbrush in

930
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,479
Speaker 1: the mirror wrapper. She put the battery in my back.

931
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: I would say that Salt and Pepper to me, all

932
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: of the girls that are that embrace their bodies in

933
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: their image today to me, took a page out of

934
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: Salt and Pepper's book because they were really Yeah, they

935
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: were the the that's for sure. Shout out to sorts yea, yeah, yeah,

936
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: they beyond legend. Yeah yeah. And then of course my

937
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: immediate sisters like like I went to school with. I

938
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: went to George Wingate High School in Brooklyn.

939
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 2: Like, yes, she was a superstar, very young.

940
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: She was a superstar then when I was going high

941
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: school with her, Yes, she was a super star video

942
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: yes high school, yes, yeah, yes, And on Friday nights

943
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: gets get special ability to be able to be that

944
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: young and be able to walk up in the Latin.

945
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: Quarters, And.

946
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 1: I was so jealous. I would was her world like

947
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: she was. She was a kid phenom EMC wow yeah

948
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: mc mc like is that.

949
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 5: Around the time Special Land was killing your special language?

950
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 2: Especially remember we used to think he had like a fake.

951
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 3: Hand, right who used to think especially had faked that

952
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 3: was a room and the head started.

953
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he always hit his hand inside.

954
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: Signing the video for I got it made because they

955
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: filmed it in winter a Grand Army Plaza first. That

956
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: was the beginning. That was the beginning to kill on

957
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: all three. Show Man Light is just incredible.

958
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 5: I like where she's at, Yeah, yeah, where her voice

959
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 5: she's doing voiceovers now and now for movie.

960
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah that.

961
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 5: Was every day and she's producing and directed movie a

962
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 5: lot of stuff.

963
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was that, she was that kid back then

964
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: that was just like you still in high school and

965
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: you tearing up a club on her Friday night, like

966
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: what you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Light, Light was And

967
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: I didn't tell her that I could rhyme. I was

968
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: at George Ringate High School for like six months my

969
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,959
Speaker 1: mother moved here. I was living at my grandparents' house

970
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: on East twenty eighth Street between Clarendon and could Till

971
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: You in Brooklyn, and I went to the high school

972
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: and I met Light and we were cool. But I

973
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: did not tell her that I could rhyme, because I'm

974
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: like what, She comes to school on a Monday with

975
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: stories about being up in the same club as Big

976
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: Daddy came getting on stage after him. What do I

977
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: have to say? I have nothing. I'm not telling her

978
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 1: that I even utter a word much less. It wasn't

979
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: until I went to England and then she came over

980
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: there doing shows and obviously knew me because we went

981
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: to high school. And then I told her I also

982
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,919
Speaker 1: do this w yeah you know it. It was then

983
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: and then you know, we got tight as far as

984
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: on the artistic level also, so that was pretty cool.

985
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: But yeah, she was that kid. Yeah, those are the

986
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: ones that I would honestly say influenced me. Put the

987
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 1: battery in my back, gave me the gusto, allowed me

988
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,720
Speaker 1: to feel brave to enter this world.

989
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 7: You know that those were diff Oh your first big show, yo.

990
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: My first big show was that the New Music Seminar

991
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: when I was the formed Ladies first with Latisa for

992
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: the first time. It was at some high school in

993
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: Manhattan somewhere, because the New Music Seminar happened every year

994
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: as the Marriott Marquee Hotel exactly all the all the

995
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: labels had all their top artists or new artists that

996
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: they wanted to showcase the show off. That makes sense.

997
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 5: Going to see Clark, he had a battle and we

998
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 5: was online and he had my vinyl from my album.

999
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 5: I'm like, man, how you my album wasn't even I

1000
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 5: don't feel like four months outter.

1001
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, how you get the buying and was like, yo,

1002
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 2: I'm a DJ. Wecame tight from there.

1003
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: That's it, so way before that, because you know, do

1004
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: you gotta remember I'm old compared to you young'in's right.

1005
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: I did perform at the New Music Seminar, and that's

1006
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: when Latifa performed because Tommy Boy was putting her as

1007
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: one of their new artists at the time to perform

1008
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 1: in a showcase, a Tommy Boys showcase. So I was there.

1009
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 1: I performed, and I never will forget that Guru ran

1010
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: up to me at the end of the performance. It

1011
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: was the first time I ever performed Ladies First. I

1012
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: hadn't heard Ladies First for six months after it was recorded,

1013
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 1: until the day I had to perform it on stage

1014
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: with Latifa at that show shot. Him shoved me in

1015
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: the bathroom with a walkman.

1016
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,240
Speaker 7: With a walkman.

1017
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: And said, just listen to it over and over and over.

1018
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: We go on in ten minutes. What And that's why

1019
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: I did And I was scared and I didn't want

1020
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 1: to come out the bathroom special led with then knocking.

1021
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 7: Your mooney, you gotta come out, You're gonna come out.

1022
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 7: I'm like, I'm.

1023
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: Going to crap myself. I'm so scared, got up, went

1024
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: into autopilot, performed it, tore it down like Latifa tore

1025
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: it down when she did Ladies First and brought me out,

1026
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: tore it down right, ran up to.

1027
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 7: Me, Yo, I didn't know you karame like that, And.

1028
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: That was like so special to me that Guru did that.

1029
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: That's actually why on my epeds out now I redid skills.

1030
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: But a mil Is did the hook. Mmm yeah, a

1031
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: retirement and mil did the hook on that. What's the

1032
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: name of the latest project. It's called love Notes. Yeah,

1033
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: love Notes. Everybody out there Love Notes. But that's a

1034
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 1: tribute to Google. And that's the only reason why Emil

1035
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: did it is for hip hop, because it was a

1036
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: tribute to Guru. That's the only reason why she did it.

1037
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: Because she flat out was, I'm not messing with this

1038
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: no more. Mom, I'm so far removed from any of this.

1039
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm not And so she was like, the only reason

1040
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: why I'm doing this mode is for you and for

1041
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: Gouru and for hip hop. And that's the only reason

1042
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:25,919
Speaker 1: why she she she got on that hook.

1043
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 2: Respect.

1044
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, man, that that that that was a tribute

1045
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 1: to him. You know, shout out to E Love Hello

1046
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: J Camp. They lost a brother. Yeah, I gotta do it.

1047
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 2: That was that.

1048
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: In every video, Like we knew this is e you

1049
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So rest in peace to eat.

1050
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 5: You know, that's crazy because the way you just did that.

1051
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 5: That's how I always looked at Eric Beach.

1052
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: I thought he was the originator.

1053
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 4: I thought he was the originator, he said, the originator

1054
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 4: of ice grilled.

1055
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 5: Though he was the originator of ice grill, he was

1056
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 5: one of the originators of fly. They had all the

1057
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 5: jury on. He was the first one with like, I

1058
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 5: don't know, I'm just saying to sometimes when I say,

1059
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 5: like historical facts, Mellie Meller, come into d M somebody

1060
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 5: come and be like, somebody call you, because, like you said,

1061
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 5: Joe's our little brother. Everybody feels like that. So if

1062
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 5: I say something and the timeline is or something like that,

1063
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 5: they'll hit me.

1064
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: Which reminds me, since you say this, I'm fried.

1065
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 2: Don't debate me on it.

1066
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 1: He goes right to the flying with it.

1067
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 2: I get it wrong all the time.

1068
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: No, but listen, let me just give everybody the quick synopsis. Right.

1069
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: So I love this show.

1070
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 2: Right.

1071
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: So I watched the show and I saw Joe say

1072
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: something one day when he was like, you know, when

1073
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: when when daylight was on here and I was like,

1074
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: and Joe was like, you know, I wish she would

1075
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: have came out with something on her own. And I

1076
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: was like, I was at a radio station event for

1077
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: the station U because I'm gonna kiss one A four

1078
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: point one in Atlanta from three to seven on weekdays

1079
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: and every day.

1080
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 9: Right.

1081
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: So, I was actually at an event for the station

1082
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: when I when I saw the clip, so I hit pass,

1083
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: but wait, pass looked so confused in clip right because

1084
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: it's like he's thinking about it, but it's like so

1085
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: then I was like, I filmed myself saying Joe, come on, Joe.

1086
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 5: I was like, come on, Joe, let me miss think

1087
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 5: starning you. The part you're missing is that I called

1088
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 5: you phenomenal super No.

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00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: I didn't miss none of that. Oh no, No, I

1090
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: didn't miss none of that. I didn't miss none of that.

1091
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: I was just like, I'm gonna get him in his ribs.

1092
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna get Joey in his ribs.

1093
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 2: I got that message from you.

1094
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 5: I was confused, No, because of the I'm going to

1095
00:57:56,520 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 5: get the third moves and one blue jeans and I.

1096
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: No, I get it. Let me make it make sense

1097
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: for your viewers, right, why don't you tell them when

1098
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: you first moved to Miami. I am going to let

1099
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: me make it make seed. That's that. That is how

1100
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: far Joe goes back with me. Right, let me make

1101
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: it make sense to your viewers. So I filmed myself

1102
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: after I saw that clip, and I was like, come on, Joe,

1103
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna help you out. I had two albums out, Joe.

1104
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 7: I'm gonna help you out. We're gonna help you out.

1105
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: Right like that now, So the average person that doesn't

1106
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: know our history, that doesn't know our connection, and it's fair.

1107
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: I don't expect everybody to know, right, that's fair. But

1108
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: the one thing that I do not like about the

1109
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: viral explosion and social media platforms is that it has

1110
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: given way to a false sense of entitlement. So people

1111
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: get on and their thumbs be gangsterized, right, and they

1112
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: start to type all this craziness right now. Granted, you

1113
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: don't know how far this man and I go back.

1114
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: You don't know this man is like a little brother

1115
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: to me. You don't know that my ex road manager

1116
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: that passed away and and has created so much avenues

1117
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: for several artists in hip hop culture period, right, was

1118
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,959
Speaker 1: my road manager put this young man on the map.

1119
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: See he's special to me. You don't know all of that, right,

1120
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: See if little gangster thumbs get on on Instagram and

1121
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: start to say all kinds of wild stuff, get right,

1122
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: say all kinds of wild stuff to me right about

1123
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: how I'm speaking to Joey. You don't get to tell

1124
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: me how I speak to Joey, because that's my little brother.

1125
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: And if you have a little brother in your household

1126
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: that may have skipped something, missed something in your opinion,

1127
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: and you want to get get him in his ribs,

1128
00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: you can do that. Joey and his family look out

1129
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: for me and my family. When we first moved to Miami,

1130
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: I had no radio job. I left Philly. I didn't

1131
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: I was doing radio in Philly. I left Philly. I

1132
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,479
Speaker 1: went to Miami with my kids. I left a bad

1133
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: relationship in Philly, picked up my kids, went to Miami

1134
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: with nothing but my kids and whatever we had, whatever

1135
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: we could have, right, no radio job, no shows, no

1136
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: nothing happening, right. Joey and Lorena picked me and my

1137
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: kids up, took us out to his house. You were

1138
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: in plantation at the time. Took us out to his mansion,

1139
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: fed us, took care of us. You know, it was like,

1140
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 1: what do you need? They put together a care package

1141
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: for us because we're newly in Miami, right with nothing. Okay,

1142
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: there were ups, there were downs in this business. It

1143
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: was the the it was a down right give us

1144
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: a care package, pots, pans, towels, necessities, everything that you

1145
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: need in a brand new apart when you're starting now, right,

1146
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: And that's when I first got to Miami. This is

1147
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: within the first week, right looked out for us. You

1148
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, But again, I don't expect anybody

1149
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: to notice off the back. But the point to what

1150
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying is relax on on on on social media. Okay, no, seriously,

1151
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: relax because the people know.

1152
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 5: They said, I'm gonna stop attacking the guys.

1153
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 2: To do that, he said, now it's time.

1154
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 5: He told me, Yo, I need you to stop, Joe,

1155
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 5: stop attacking these guys.

1156
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, he said, Yo, Joe, I need you to stop.

1157
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: So I'm stopping.

1158
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 2: I'm letting mon stop.

1159
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and then and then and then I wound

1160
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: up taking the post down because people were saying wild

1161
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: stuff towards me, and people were saying wild stuff towards you,

1162
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: And I was like, that wasn't my intent with my post.

1163
01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 5: And Bony immediately was like, Bonie, we fucking love you,

1164
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 5: We worship you. You know I love you. Don't take

1165
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 5: this no wrong way. Sometimes I say some shit that

1166
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 5: gets mister shude and I'm crazy and people know that

1167
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 5: shit side it's the truth a thousand Sometimes he allered

1168
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 5: you do with me?

1169
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 2: He was like, yo, Mody, I'm like, yo.

1170
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 5: Look, I can't even with this guy right here. But

1171
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 5: what I'm saying is the way you know your career

1172
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 5: was laid out right, it's that energy, right, It's an energy,

1173
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 5: and now it's actually the same thing like so so

1174
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 5: say French Wantana, right, French Wantana.

1175
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 2: I got his demo wayed on nobody.

1176
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 5: They had beef with the powers that be and nobody

1177
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 5: was playing they shit and they was bubbling in the street.

1178
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 2: I took this shit and was like, yo, he from

1179
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 2: the Bronx. You know you playing this.

1180
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 5: I don't want to say it like that, but you

1181
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 5: know I had to do that as soon as they

1182
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 5: played it. Six months later, he was a superstar and

1183
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 5: had popped at but the energy was he was already

1184
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 5: bubbling in the streets.

1185
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 2: Give him the song.

1186
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: That's that?

1187
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 2: What's that joint?

1188
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: Sure you got pretend to see that.

1189
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 5: And then six months later he had a song with

1190
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 5: Drake and Rick Ross and he's a superstar, but it's

1191
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 5: an energy. So Fat Joe got flowed Joe and then

1192
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 5: Elo koolj puts me on.

1193
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 2: I shotcha.

1194
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 5: So you hear it coming. This happens with every artist.

1195
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 5: It's a it's a it's an energy. And I've always

1196
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 5: felt like your energy for being on Buddy and Ladies

1197
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 5: first and all that, maybe if now you'd have been.

1198
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 2: Even bigger than you were.

1199
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 5: That's what I was trying to allude to, you know,

1200
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 5: That's what I was trying to get out, like saying, like,

1201
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 5: you know mony love to me. Of course we know

1202
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 5: you legendary. Of course we know you got classic goblems.

1203
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 5: Of course we know.

1204
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 1: But you know how they classified you. See, you gotta

1205
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: do it. Give him some time. How long did it?

1206
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: How long was the six months? I know it was

1207
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: four months.

1208
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 2: You're the first thing he did. He walked there.

1209
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know you gotta apologize. I'thing like apologize. This

1210
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 9: is all stuff we know they don't know.

1211
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, off comments like you just said.

1212
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 5: You know what, you know, there's a resurgence in the

1213
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 5: originators like this year we had they love, we had

1214
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 5: go nas and.

1215
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, you're absolutely right, you have.

1216
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 2: A problem and for a long qualm.

1217
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 1: Different kids. He got a joint. Now I used to

1218
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: love Man and and somebody.

1219
01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 5: I wanted to say earlier, but I didn't want to

1220
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 5: cut you because you know, that's my new wolves around here.

1221
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 2: They don't let me because they were lost.

1222
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a new one, okay, right, even though I

1223
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 5: try to tell him the DNA is all right.

1224
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: It's working.

1225
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 5: Shout out to Chubb Rock. He's somebody you'll study. He's

1226
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 5: somebody'll studied.

1227
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 3: Like you said you were.

1228
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 1: Ever ever Green episode. Chubb was the first person that

1229
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: was going to sign the lot. That's no what. Yeah,

1230
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: we were supposed to say we was gonna sign with Chubb.

1231
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 1: Chub was up for Chub first.

1232
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 2: I remember making my first out wait to wait a minute.

1233
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: You can't just say that and then be like, no,

1234
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 1: you got to tell I gotta bring here that.

1235
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 4: I really remember everything and Chuck, you gotta bring Chubb

1236
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 4: up here.

1237
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: Then yeah, okay, okay, Dave, make that happen.

1238
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 5: You know, recresents all of you know. They gave me

1239
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 5: the key to the city and it was a big

1240
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 5: day for me. Like right, they gave me the key.

1241
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 5: This wasn't my city.

1242
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 3: They gave me mad keys. None of them is in

1243
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 3: my city. Gave me Jersey City East Orange mad ship.

1244
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 1: I see.

1245
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:27,439
Speaker 5: They gave the match. They gave me that he's some ship, fright.

1246
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 5: We got days all of that they didn't give me.

1247
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 5: I think they might have gave it Pee that's might

1248
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,479
Speaker 5: got a key. Why never gave me ship?

1249
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

1250
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 7: I didn't give me.

1251
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 5: Jersey City New Building a wild like the stated are

1252
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 5: crazy out of this world.

1253
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 7: Can't fitch your sneakers in me. You chucked it out city,

1254
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 7: you sneakers.

1255
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 1: The outside.

1256
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 5: It's like that building you lived in a Jersey that

1257
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 5: the fucking apartment was this little, but it was the

1258
01:06:58,760 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 5: Flyes Building.

1259
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you never let me say my story.

1260
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

1261
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 5: So while I got the key to the city, the

1262
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 5: whole Bronx is out there, crazy and on your beach.

1263
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 5: I turned around and Chubb Rock is just happens to

1264
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 5: be standing on stage. I stopped the whole ship and

1265
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 5: I told them how much he influenced me in front

1266
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 5: of everybody. You know, the Bronce was out there, soldier.

1267
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:25,439
Speaker 5: I was like your child. Because a lot of time,

1268
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 5: as men, right in this type of business, we don't

1269
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 5: really sit people down and tell them how much they

1270
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 5: influenced us, or how much you know, we'll save what's.

1271
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 2: Up, We'll be cordial head at but we don't grab

1272
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 2: them and be like yo.

1273
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 5: Look when I did that represent album, my first album,

1274
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 5: I was listening to chrub Roy chub Rock's tape. I

1275
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 5: kept playing that every day before I wrote the next song.

1276
01:07:53,440 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 5: I just his flows. No, She'll say say, is is

1277
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 5: grobo cops? Well, the biggest line on that was remember

1278
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 5: use of hawks.

1279
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were just talking about him today too.

1280
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 2: And I've seen Sean Bell's wife. She has a movie.

1281
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: There's a movie out absolutely shout out the many, yep, man.

1282
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 5: So I just seen them at Trust thee called Nicole

1283
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 5: Bell Bell Experience.

1284
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 1: If y'all don't know who shown.

1285
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 5: The kid got killed a day before his wedding in

1286
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 5: New York City back in the day. So his wife

1287
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 5: put out a movie. But you know what's crazy is

1288
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 5: the action because you know, now I'm mature whatever whatever.

1289
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,520
Speaker 5: But back in the days, I was the most harassed

1290
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 5: person from the police in the universe. And I caught

1291
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 5: asked whippers like I don't understand killing yourself or being

1292
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 5: But I got bullied more than anybody in the world,

1293
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 5: Like I got beat up by the cops more than

1294
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 5: you could ever think in your life. So they invite

1295
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 5: me one day to a what was it, a Black

1296
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 5: Lives Matter police summit, and I come up in there

1297
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 5: and you know, in great tradition, if you're thinking new

1298
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 5: music seminar, what would Chuck d say?

1299
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 1: What? You know?

1300
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 2: I was in the crowd watching all this.

1301
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,600
Speaker 5: So when they put me on a panel and it

1302
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 5: was like, yeah, you know this, this, that, and they

1303
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 5: think I'm that Joda rapper, and I said, remember use

1304
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 5: of Hawkins when you walking?

1305
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that was the.

1306
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 2: First line I said.

1307
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 5: And they knew all he came on bullshit, right, They

1308
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 5: knew the police he came on bullshit. I'm telling the man,

1309
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:36,959
Speaker 5: Louimba Sean Belle, he's the wrong guy to bring up bays.

1310
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 5: They were like, oh no, he know too much, Like

1311
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 5: let's get him off the stage run you know a

1312
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 5: line like that. The consciousness in music care Rest did

1313
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 5: that for me too. I remember hopping the train, were

1314
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 5: talking about the Walkman, and I'm thinking it's just gonna

1315
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 5: be against the album.

1316
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 2: I'll put in criminal Minder.

1317
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 5: He's like heir plane's flying overseas, people dying, politicians lying,

1318
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 5: and I'm sitting there like.

1319
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 1: Yo, what the fuck does he talk?

1320
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 2: But it opened us up to conscious.

1321
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 1: Carris One used to shut his show down and start

1322
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: straight up talking like Malcolm X to somebody, Seriously, does

1323
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 1: anybody remember car Wash? The no the club car Wash?

1324
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 1: Don't know? Okay again, I'm showing my age, which I

1325
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 1: have no problem doing.

1326
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 2: Right, Karen.

1327
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 1: Chris used to shut the show down halfway through and

1328
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 1: start talking and dropping all that knowledge. Nothing. Oh, nobody left,

1329
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 1: nobody left.

1330
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 2: Nobody, And then he got, oh you know who else

1331
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 2: did that?

1332
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 5: Nos? Nos with that eat your panther kings and they

1333
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 5: cut off the nose, right, I don't I care?

1334
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 2: Yo? He was dropping jewels on that.

1335
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, and that's we missing that you're

1336
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 5: missing out of hip hop today. People dropping them type

1337
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 5: of jewels where the next generation could feel proud and

1338
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 5: know where they came from, because we don't know where

1339
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 5: we came from. I was in the car we rich

1340
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 5: the ball, and I was like, yo, you know they

1341
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:13,799
Speaker 5: chopped off the noses in the statues in Egypt because

1342
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 5: they had black noses, Nigga noses, tell us.

1343
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 2: But they chopped their nose off.

1344
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 1: European son. So but this was deep.

1345
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying this, This was deep.

1346
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 7: And you ever finding nose?

1347
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 1: Iron?

1348
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:36,799
Speaker 2: She want something for the nose?

1349
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 1: You know that happened.

1350
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 7: Somebody found their notes.

1351
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 5: It's the first story that the people said, I ain't cat.

1352
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: I never knew Iron.

1353
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 2: She got arrested.

1354
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 1: Everything. Somebody's just saying, nobody knows.

1355
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 2: Nobody knows.

1356
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 1: No.

1357
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 5: I told the story last time iron Ic. We bumped

1358
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:57,839
Speaker 5: into Iron. Shek the wrestler and he was from Iran.

1359
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 5: So he comes by with some Mexican dude. They drinking liquor.

1360
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,799
Speaker 5: He asks for some liqu perhaps some liquor.

1361
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 2: They gave him.

1362
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 5: The guy soon smoking weed. Thirty minutes state he come by,

1363
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 5: perhaps some weed. He came back thirty minutes stady, he said,

1364
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 5: perhaps something for the nose. I'm like, yeah, I'm like, Yo,

1365
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 5: don't give the Iron seek something for the.

1366
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 1: Yo, Yeah, I want nothing with.

1367
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 5: Soa birabl I watched all the comments, was like, first

1368
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:28,919
Speaker 5: of all, I didn't know he had a nickname.

1369
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 2: His nickname is shiky Baby.

1370
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:36,440
Speaker 5: So in the comments, everybody who knew him off wrestling

1371
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 5: was saying, yo, that's shaky baby. He used to get

1372
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 5: get arrested every week for cocaine yo. He used to

1373
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:44,879
Speaker 5: This is that like they were, Like Joe did.

1374
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 2: Not cap on this.

1375
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 5: That's crazy Joe and Jay the baby. Let's go legendary.

1376
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 5: This ain't that, That ain't this.

1377
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: It's cracking.

1378
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:55,759
Speaker 2: Kiss makes so noise for Mody Law.

1379
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 7: Get that new album, Love Notes EP.

1380
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 1: Love Notes EP

1381
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 5: M