WEBVTT - Hit the Road Jack (eek sorry) 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:10.280 It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hey you guys, 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:14.240 we are back for another It's getting exciting towards the 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:18.040 end of season three to one. Oh mg, here with 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:22.680 my best ees. You guys, that isn't that? That was insane? 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:24.279 I mean I knew it was coming, but that was 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:32.479 insane this episode? What the you know? What? Yes? Wow? 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:36.280 I mean what was your reactions? Because we'll look obviously 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:38.000 we're gonna talk about whole episode, we gotta start with 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:41.120 the end. Did you know this was the episode where 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:49.000 that happened? No? No, no, non coming. I knew eventually 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:52.479 it happened, but I didn't remember it was. Yeah, I 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:54.720 didn't know, Yeah that it was here. I thought it 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:58.040 was a point. Did both of you know? Like? Was 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:01.440 it when the phone rang? Was it? And Jack? You know? 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:03.880 Says Dylan and he's on the butt, like where did 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:09.080 you go? Oh my god? Not until they put that 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:13.479 giant box of I don't know what that was underneath 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:15.720 the car. They vell crowed it right up under the car. 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:21.160 It's like, wait, what's going on? What is that giant box? Yeah? 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:24.480 It was like the phone. I think the phone. I 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:27.560 can't believe we just jumped so hard into the end 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:32.600 of the episode. This is not the show people. Sometimes 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:34.880 you gotta do it, guys, but do we have to tease? 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:39.080 Like but there? Now they're like, what what? What about? Well, 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:47.200 everybody watched everyone Jack McKay blown to smithereens allegedly this 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:50.720 is you can't come back from this. I'm so upset 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:56.919 this episode. It's just messed up everything everything for Kelly 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.840 and Dylan, They'll They're never going to have a relationship 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:02.920 because Dylan will never be the same like they I 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:04.480 don't know what they're going to do with this show 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:08.320 and they might as well just end it now. Imagine 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:14.600 can you guys remember shooting this episode or even if 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:18.120 you can't exactly remember, do you remember when this happened? 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:20.800 I mean this had to be a major like sweeps, 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.000 do you know what I mean? Like? When did this air? 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:26.079 What was the air date? When did we do the synopsis? Okay? Well, 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:30.920 do you want to hear the synopsis? Amy, because I'm 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:33.400 so sorry, apologuice. I want to know the date this? Okay, Well, 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:37.440 then you just sit there and be quiet for one seme. Okay, 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:40.760 this is season three, episode twenty one, you guys, dead end. 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:51.320 It aired February ten, sep that was sweep. You know, 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:53.760 I know what a sweep is. But for the people 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.440 that don't, what is a sweep tory? Do you want 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:59.320 to explain? You explain? I don't really know. I mean, 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:02.360 I know it's they like it's like they put I 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:05.600 don't know, not season finales, but like mid season like yeah, 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:10.920 they polished hard, like storylines, crazy thing. So back in 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.720 the nineties and even in the two thousand's, it only 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:16.960 really just changed sort of recently because of streaming and 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:20.359 shows only do thirteen episodes. So back in the day, 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.560 you would have like episodes in a season, and your 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:28.480 biggest episodes would be in November, February, and May, because 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:31.720 that was sweets and it was when the advertisers were 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:34.800 paying the most attention to the ratings, and they would 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:39.240 base their ads spending on the ratings of those months. 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:44.840 So shows like yours would have crazy episodes happened with 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:47.440 tons of promotions so that they would get a lot 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:50.240 of tune in, which obviously this did and the week 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:54.120 after so that it would bring in more ratings. And 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:57.160 then I didn't remember that, so thank you. So that's 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:02.600 why NATICA was all over this episode. I'm just wondering, 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:06.880 what do you mean you just explained it. It It has 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:09.840 to be turtleneck. The turtleneck industry must have put a 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:13.720 lot of money into our show this week. Sidebar. Has 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:16.840 Jack McKay ever not worn a turtleneck. You were a 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:20.159 turtleneck in every single scene. But he really brought it 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:23.440 home this week with the big white, fluffy one with 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:27.640 the blue stripe around in his neck. Wow, I never 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:33.880 saw anything, Jack McKay, okay, okay. Synopsis synopsis. Jim Walsh 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.960 finally agrees to dissolve Dylan's trust fund, and Dylan, Jack, 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:39.799 and Christine enjoy the good life on a yacht. Little 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:44.240 do they know they're all under observation by unidentified men. Meanwhile, 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:47.960 finances for mother to put their house up for sale. Brendan, 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.719 Don and Cindy take a class in self defense. Brandon 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:54.160 some serious gambling debt. Brandon has some serious gambling get 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:58.800 and Duke isn't happy. Andrea goes Andrea goes out with 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:02.360 Jordan and Brandon is jealous. David and c finally make peace, 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:04.919 still in stream life with his dad goes up in 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:16.200 Flames Direct written by Star froman Star froman that's what 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:21.719 I said. Did you hear it right? I mean, what 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:26.040 an episode? What an episode do you? I mean, do 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:28.760 you want to just talk about Brandon gambling first, since 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:33.479 it's really nothing to talk about, like just like we 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:36.960 all know it's it's like three. This is the third 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:40.119 episode of him just kind of like side betting money 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:44.640 secretly on on sports and losing Steve high fiving on 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:48.360 his assets that he's now it's like, how about when 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:53.640 Steve offered him money? M m. That was sort of nice, 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:56.960 like and then Brandon obviously didn't take it, but but 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:59.320 then that was nice. But then Billy Vera comes in. 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:04.080 He's scary. It. Duke is scary because you know, like 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:06.919 he's like, I'll give to you, I'm gonna I'm gonna 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:09.200 bust your kneecaps or whatever they used. I didn't know 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:12.520 he had that side to him. He's so sweet and 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:16.159 he's like I know we've talked about it, but he 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:19.800 is the most charming man. Oh my gosh, wait, we 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:21.800 gotta find out when he's when he's playing in l 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:27.919 A S would go see him. So okay, yeah, here's 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:31.320 the thing. There's so much to talk about. But I 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:37.640 did witness a scene in this episode that really tickled me, 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:45.800 it tickled you. It was the dialogue when Kelly and 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:49.760 Dylan are on the boat making out. So I feel 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:52.200 it's time before we get into all the heavy stuff 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:58.200 for another dramatic last time that this is not a 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:01.680 good idea. What I loved was it was I was 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:05.560 literally good. I was living the dream everyone since we're 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:10.160 doing this, like you, who do you want to be? Oh? Yeah, 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.880 obviously I want to be Kelly. Okay, you'd be Kelly, 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:17.520 but we need a boy. Either of you want to 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:22.160 direct it? Yeah, you're direct. Oh my gosh, this makes 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:24.280 it even better if you can give me coaching. Yeah? 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:30.240 Uh wait, Easton. Easton is our engineer, producer. Would you 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.760 feel happy to be part of this? How how would 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:35.040 you feel about playing Dylan today? You know? It would 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:36.840 be my honor. It's a role I've been preparing for 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:41.040 my entire life. I'm ready. I'm ready to become Dylan 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:44.560 because this was some of the cheesiest dialogue I've ever heard, 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.960 and I loved every second. Okay, so this hard time 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:52.480 of it when they were in the bed right, laying 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.960 down kissing, laying down, kiss Okay, so you guys are 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:59.240 all tangled up together. Imagine that. Yeah, okay, so Kelly, 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:03.200 you're so you're like rubbing on his leg, on his 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:09.680 on his crunchy sock, like on its catholic like that's sexy. Yeah, yeah, 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:11.480 what do we need to know to get We're gonna 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.960 pan up. We're gonna pan up from all the way 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:19.960 up your bodies and see the close proximity that your bodies, right, Okay, 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:22.560 it's gonna be really intimate, and then we're gonna come. 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:26.680 We're gonna settle on your faces. And then that's when 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:33.880 you start talking. Okay, but you need to pause now, 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:37.240 you guys, when there's the mash up in the middle 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.280 of the dialogue, you need to pause for that. Okay, 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:49.960 what do you mean up the making out? So they 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:56.200 were preston Okay, okay, call it tour already. I'm gonna 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:58.920 get quiet, quiet, quiet on the stet Please everybody settle, 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:07.000 we'll roll ling and action. Kell Now that I'm going 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:08.680 to be rich, I want to know if you want 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:13.040 me for my money or my mind, that's easy. I 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:15.840 want you for your body. So I'm just like a 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:19.600 sex object. Do you have a problem with that? Not tonight? 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:25.640 Stay here. I don't think my mom would appreciate that 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:28.839 very much. It's okay, I'll write you and know it. 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:33.079 I will you know. Mrs Taylor, please excuse Kelly from 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:35.760 being at home tonight as she needs a very serious 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:42.120 dose of Dr McKay's bedside man. Nice try, Doc, but 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:45.240 you better start operating because I'm out of here in 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:51.400 an hour. But it's quality, not quantity that counts, and 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.280 we need to go again. We had a problem with 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.560 the sound. We're gonna have to CoA Yeah, so you guys, 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:05.480 I feel like that. That was a great first take. Comfortable. 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:07.760 Can we do that one more time? Take up step 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:10.520 in for final touches. We fix fixed her lips. Yeah, 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:16.680 you flip Amy, Just try to like be like focused 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:18.959 on being a little more like you're being. I'm getting 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:22.520 the sex, but a little like yeah, like a little 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:27.160 she gets that little like oh yeah, time mixed with vixen. 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:29.760 This is my favorite note to ever get from our director. 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:35.880 Take your time with it, have fun times. Would you 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:40.400 have how many times would you have to do that scene? 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:49.240 Twenty five, five, four, four or five times? But then 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:51.440 they'd have to like reset for different angles because they 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:54.679 first the first setup was like the whole like up 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:56.920 from the body up to the faces thing, and then 0:10:56.960 --> 0:11:00.720 they did like coverage of like coverage, were like tighter 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:04.760 on their faces to keep doing that cheesy dialogue every 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:07.720 time that it never gets any better. Amy it's always 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:11.360 the same, no fits. Okay, let's go right in. Okay, 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:14.280 right into it, and everybody's ready, we're really doing it again. 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.440 Don't make I can't watch it again. Please don't make 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:24.000 me watch it again. But you know what's weird? You, 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:27.480 you know what's interesting is and I love Easton, but 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:30.720 he's like a brother. It would have been easier to 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:33.520 do it with somebody that I had a crush shop, 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.200 so it would have been like a Brenda and Brandon scene. Then, 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:43.760 I mean that is I don't get it. That's all 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.920 it was. But I get because everybody said they were flirty, 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.440 like had like well and remember they have those weird 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:55.760 hugs and wait, so Tori, oh, Tori, I need to 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:57.880 start with this or people are going to get upset 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:01.200 before we get into the episode. We ended last week 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:04.679 with a question for you, and I want to know, 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:11.800 as the impartial sort of friend to everybody, as Donna 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:19.600 and Tory, what was happening at this time, as the 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:24.880 audience was really picking sides. For me, it was highly 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:30.440 uncomfortable onset and offset because Offset like there were times 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:33.840 when you know, Shannon and Jen would get along and 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:36.040 we would then we all got to hang out, but 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:38.960 then there would be times when they wouldn't be getting along, 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:42.839 and I was still friends with both of them, so 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:46.079 I felt pulled in different directions, Like, you know, if 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:48.280 it was a day they weren't getting along, Shannon would 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:50.199 be like, we'll have lunch in my dressing room, come 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:52.120 with me, and I was like, I don't really, Jen, 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:54.520 And so then it just felt like I was picking side. 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:56.040 But I didn't want to pick sides, but I didn't 0:12:56.080 --> 0:13:00.480 want to upset anyone. And you know, I feel like, 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:04.280 out of the two, like Jen was always really neutral 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:08.200 with me about like it's okay, Like she never made 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:11.040 me feel like I had to pick sides um and 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:13.520 Shannah didn't feel that way either. It was just more like, no, 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:15.280 come do this, and I knew it would be like 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:20.359 choosing sides. So life imitates art because in this episode, 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:24.079 there is the scene when they're at the self defense. 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:27.400 You guys are all the self defense, not Jenny obviously, 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:36.520 and Brenda really says my best friend or I can't remember. 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:41.880 I think Brenda says it and Donna smiles. But it 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:46.160 was like all I could think of was like, oh, because, oh, 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:50.320 the thing is, I think I was so naive back 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:53.560 then that I didn't ever put two and two together 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:56.520 that it was like, oh, wow, this is happening in 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:58.960 real life, but also on the show, Like I was 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.000 just so like in the moment trying to play Donna 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:02.920 and it was like, oh my god, you're playing Tory 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:04.920 in the middle of Shannon and Jenny as well, Like 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:19.920 it didn't resonate at the time. Okay, so I have 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.080 one other really hard question that we'll just get out 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:28.240 of the way. It's around this time that how do 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:32.080 I say this? Maybe the tabloids were reporting it, maybe 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:34.400 it was sort of hush hush, but there was talk 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:36.880 of it, and even like now when you read like 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:41.760 Trivia on IMDb, they acknowledge it that this was the 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:46.760 time when Shannon was regularly like late to work, showing 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:50.120 up late to work, like it seems like there's truth 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:53.240 to that, and that was why certain things were happening 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:59.240 essentially with the characters. Even though there might have been 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.840 storylines that would have changed there. I'll just out it. 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:06.640 There is a story that maybe Dylan and Brenda would 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:11.160 have gotten back together, but it didn't happen because Shannon 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:14.480 was showing up late to work. But why would that. 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.080 I don't know if that's true, because that wouldn't They 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:22.160 would never said to writers. So after Jack's incident in 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:25.240 this episode. I don't want to ruin too much, but 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:27.840 there I think Dylan goes and lives with the wall Ships, 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.720 and there was talk from the writers that they thought, oh, 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:35.080 maybe Brenda and Dylan should reunite. And what I am 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:39.880 dB says is Charles Rosen said no, because I think 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:41.720 he didn't. I don't want to put words in his mouth. 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:44.600 So I have to like, was this on the other podcast? 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:46.360 Did they talk about this? I don't know about that. 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:49.200 I just read it on the internet that didn't do 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:53.480 it because essentially it said because and I'm just reading 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:58.520 off I am baby allegedly that Shannon was you don't 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:01.280 remember any of that. I don't know. There's we we didn't. 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.000 We weren't proved to any of that, like behind the 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:09.920 curtain conversation um at that point. No, I know that 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:15.600 we there. Yes, there was some truth to UM her 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:21.040 being late on occasion, UM holding up production on occasion, 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:26.160 which was really hard for everybody involved, for the crew 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:30.080 and for the rest of the cast, because you just 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:32.640 we couldn't do anything like you know, they had that 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.080 it doesn't mean like five minutes, It means like hours 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:38.640 or something. Obviously, yeah, it means more than five minutes, 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:44.360 but everybody would beat Yeah. But I mean, you know, 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:47.280 in retrospect, But like Shannon's talked about this too, like 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:51.160 she was going through a lot in her personal life 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:55.040 at that time and dealing with the fame and everything 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:57.320 that came along with this show and the success of 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.760 the show, and just where her life was at the moment. 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:03.040 She was dealing with a lot that people didn't know 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.320 about it, that we didn't know about I I didn't 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.720 know about UM, and she wasn't you know, she didn't 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.960 want to share that with anybody UM, and so that 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:18.400 was affecting her in various ways. But it was impossible 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:22.800 to uh, you know, work around it a lot of 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.320 the times. So I was around for several of the 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:30.320 fiance's UM and that was really hard. When I knew 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.960 things had happened in her personal life because maybe I 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:36.920 was witnessed to it, you know, the night before to 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.760 some of it, and then if she didn't come in 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:43.399 the next morning, I didn't want to get her in 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:46.520 trouble or even talk. It wasn't my story to tell, 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:49.800 to talk about what was happening happening in her personal life. 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:51.520 It was something bad was happening to her, you know, 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:54.560 that wasn't my place. So it was hard for me 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:57.720 sitting in the makeup chair being ready and hearing that 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:00.399 she wasn't there, and everyone being like, well, anyone know 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.359 where she was last night? What happened? And I did know, 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:08.120 and I was like sitting there terrified. It's really interesting 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:12.399 to think about just knowing the shows so well and 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:14.919 knowing that the cast changes that do happen. It's like 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:18.480 if things would have been different, meaning in people's personal lives, 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:21.000 or even if the show wouldn't have blown up quite 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:24.399 in the way it did, if maybe people would have 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:30.720 not left, I mean, who would know. It's like Sliding Doors. 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:36.119 I love that movie Sliding Doors. But it's like I 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:40.240 had this weird deep dive the other night because I 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:43.520 don't know. I think this episode for me is so 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:51.280 again iconic, like I remember it completely, and so I started, so, obviously, 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:54.920 how do I say this without saying this? Okay, I'll 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:58.679 just say maybe things aren't as they appear. So I 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.920 obviously am having a lot of memories. So I did 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:03.720 this deep dive on YouTube because I was like, when 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:05.720 does this happen? When does this happen? I got over 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.120 my skis. I'm not I'm not gonna lie. So then 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:10.720 what I did this weird thing is I rewatched the 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:15.040 opening credits for all ten seasons. I don't know why. 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:18.480 I just did because it's fun. It was fun, and 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:21.159 it's all on YouTube, and like, I'm not alone because 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:24.360 there's thousands of other people that have done the same thing. 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:28.800 And that was so cool for me because without getting 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:31.560 into the weeds of the storylines, you really see like, 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:34.879 oh my god, that's when Shannon's gone. Oh my god, 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:38.320 that's when Luke is gone. Oh my god, Luke is back. 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:42.480 Oh that's when Jason's gone. Gabrielle is gone. She leaves 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:49.440 much earlier than I thought, like season what six? Fight 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:58.320 like she leaves. I don't want to ruin it, but 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:01.280 do what you just did? Watch all the opening credits? 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:04.600 You should because it doesn't ruin. It won't ruin the 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:07.200 podcast for you, like with the storylines that are coming, 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:10.160 but it will refresh your memory of like, oh my god, 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:14.159 that's when Tiffany comes. Oh my god, that's when Vanessa comes. 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:17.880 Uh um, oh my god, Kathleen. It's like all these 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:21.600 things where you're just like whoa Lindsay, all these people 0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:25.240 are on the credits and in the later season sometimes 0:20:25.240 --> 0:20:28.479 you watch the opening like photo credit and you're like, 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:33.560 who that's just not nine know anymore. There's me and 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:37.920 Jen still standing, I know, and and god bless Ian 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:43.240 because what's weird? And Brian. In my mind it's the 0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:48.080 original cast all ten seasons. But that's not I mean, oh, 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:50.080 I just got chills. I mean that's hard should have 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:53.480 been because it's like that I would have loved to 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:56.760 see all those characters grow and how the relationships would 0:20:56.760 --> 0:21:01.120 have changed. And yeah, So I don't know why this 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:04.720 episode like triggered me in a way. I don't know. 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:07.399 This must have been so triggering for so many people 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:12.520 watching some the character that they love the most, who 0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:15.560 they're so happy for that he's reconnected with his dad, 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:18.439 and like they're really rooting for him and then his 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:23.800 dad gets killed off, like what well and that even 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:25.800 though looking at it now, I'm not sure it's like 0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:31.800 any award winning acting. When Luke Dylan has that full 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:37.160 breakdown at the end, I remember, it's like I do too. 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:39.919 That's iconic to see that like him. Yes, and so 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:42.199 at the time, I'm sure I was like, like, I 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:44.919 even get a little like I definitely have like weird 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:49.760 chili goose bumps right now because it's like, oh my god, 0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:55.560 that was gnarly, like I think everyone was talking about it, like, 0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:58.760 oh my god, Jack McKay died like no one saw 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:09.359 up coming, and so violently, so like just and quick surprising. Yeah, now, 0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:12.520 I will say, watching it again, there is there is 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:15.920 no one in the front seat of you could tell 0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:21.800 yeah watching sure, not because you knew. Why wouldn't they 0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:25.320 put even like a stunt dummy, Well, because he's not. 0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:31.600 I saw him getting the car. What are you talking about? 0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:36.520 Don't tell her about don't tell her. But for everyone, look, 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:39.399 we have to sort of most people know, so we 0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:43.960 will will get around it. For Jenny. But rewatch the 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:47.880 scene when the car is a flame. You can see 0:22:47.880 --> 0:22:51.480 the steering wheel. I saw him open the door and 0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:57.600 get in it. You didn't. You didn't, I think you did, 0:22:58.680 --> 0:23:02.840 and I gotta re watch it. Okay, So that that's 0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:06.119 I mean, I love Jeff Melmon, but that should have 0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:08.560 been Or do you think they wanted people? No, they 0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:10.880 don't want people to know. Correct, why would you want 0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:14.880 people to know? But nobody would watch it like that? Yeah, 0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:17.320 but you got as a director, you gotta cover all bases. 0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:19.359 And then the producers watched the cut, you think they 0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:22.399 would have been like wait, wait, wait, I don't mean 0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:25.240 they looked as specifics that like hair and sunglasses. They 0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:27.640 didn't notice that you could see that clearly there wasn't 0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:29.479 a body in the front. Maybe I knew that it was. 0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:32.080 They knew where the story would be going eventually, if 0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:35.520 you're saying that's what happens, right, But they didn't want 0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:38.639 to tip off to the audience, right, I don't know. 0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:41.040 I don't know, because right, like, you wouldn't have watched 0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:43.119 it as an audience, You wouldn't have thought that. You 0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:46.359 wouldn't have looked exactly, and they obviously can't have a 0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:50.880 body in the front seat right now comes because then 0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:53.199 they would have been like, no, Jack McKay was in 0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:55.160 the front seat. We saw him on foot. You could 0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:58.840 have framed it differently, so that wasn't as noticeable, more mysterious. 0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:01.399 Maybe I saw him getting the car. I don't know 0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:05.439 what you guys are talking about. No, you should go 0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:09.080 with that, because then one season you're just gonna be like, 0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:13.760 what well, And how about the fact that Kelly does 0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:19.679 save Dylan's life because she called? Yeah, I was. I 0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:23.080 was thinking the opposite though. I was starting to feel bad, like, oh, 0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:25.280 he should have never gotten together with Kelly, and this 0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:30.359 is karma, Like what's bad, Like it's bad that he's 0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:32.240 with her, and he should have stayed with Brenda. Like 0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:34.600 I got like all weird about it, But you're right. 0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:38.480 She did call him, and it was so cute the 0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:40.800 way Jack was like, I gotta find Dylan for Kelly. 0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:42.320 She's on the phone. I would have been like, no, 0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:44.280 I don't know where she is. Where he is, sorry, 0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:46.959 he'll call you back. But he really went that extra 0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:49.119 distance to find him and get him on the phone. 0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:53.440 I mean, the karma was Jack McKay's all on his own, 0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:56.119 like it had nothing to do with Dylan, nothing to 0:24:56.119 --> 0:25:02.399 do with Kelly, Like except wait, I know, I know 0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:06.119 it's so hard because what happened to me, and I 0:25:06.119 --> 0:25:09.440 don't know if people listening have the same thing. I 0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:16.240 remember so many things because I remembered, sister, why are you? 0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:21.080 I can't hear you. I forgot a little bit louder 0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:22.600 because I don't know you don't want you to know. 0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:24.439 She doesn't go to ruin it for you, for me 0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:26.560 to just stuff because the listeners probably want to hear 0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:35.560 what you're saying. Okay, so Erica, So it's like all 0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:38.040 that we I don't know what. I don't know why. 0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:41.159 Seeing this scene all of a sudden, I was like, 0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:42.960 oh my god, and this and this and this and 0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:45.320