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Speaker 1: He's The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson, home

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Speaker 1: of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Drive. I'm Dale Lilly here with Matt Williamson. It's

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Speaker 1: a Wednesday here in Pittsburgh, and boy, it's you know,

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Speaker 1: you might want to pull out the arcs. Uh, get

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Speaker 1: get the boats out of We've gone from having three

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Speaker 1: rivers running through Pittsburgh to about forty we've gotten here

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Speaker 1: in the last couple of days. But Matt, how you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm real good. I'm psyched for the Combine, to be

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Speaker 1: honest with you, It's been a while since we were there.

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Speaker 1: It's just a good time. There's so much going on.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be bringing you, you guys, tons of broadcasting

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Speaker 1: live from every day from Radio Yeah toend Ay ten am,

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Speaker 1: the five pm straight with a lot of the two

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, we'll be doing shows five as I said,

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Speaker 1: ten to five pm, uh Tuesday through Saturday. Saturday will

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Speaker 1: be a short show. I think we're gonna tend to

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Speaker 1: one pm. But lots of stuff to talk about, lots

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Speaker 1: of stuff to get to. Obviously, West Euler and Max

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Speaker 1: Starks and Jerry doo Lack and all kinds of people

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Speaker 1: chipping in. Gonna we'll bring on some special guests throughout

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Speaker 1: the weeks. We always do. We didn't get to do

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Speaker 1: this last year as the NFL didn't hold a combine,

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Speaker 1: So uh, I'm kind of excited to get back there

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Speaker 1: of these prospects in person. I got a chance to

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Speaker 1: do that a few weeks ago at the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 1: But obviously that's not it's not quite the same. You know,

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Speaker 1: you're watching them practice, which is better than the combine. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, but you know, at the combine you get

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Speaker 1: a chance to talk to more of these guys. They

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Speaker 1: made the guys available at the Senior Bowl, but it

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Speaker 1: was such um you kind of had to guess or

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Speaker 1: know what the guy looked like in a lot of

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Speaker 1: cases because of the way they They brought the two

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Speaker 1: teams on Wednesday morning, Um, just to pull back the

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Speaker 1: curtain on this, So they practiced on Tuesday. There were

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Speaker 1: kind of know who's who, And I was kind of

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Speaker 1: And then, uh, the next morning, they brought all those

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Speaker 1: They and they didn't. They didn't do that because because

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Speaker 1: of COVID issues. So what which would have been nice

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Speaker 1: if had they done it that way? And that's the

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Speaker 1: way they did it in the past, you know, you'd

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Speaker 1: at tables and they'll have you know, the placards there

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Speaker 1: tell you who they are, much like they do with

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Speaker 1: the combine. In this instance, they took they had they

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Speaker 1: football writers will uh, they'll have a sheet that you

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Speaker 1: sign up on to go ahead and transcribe whatever you know,

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Speaker 1: such a such as such player says. So that year

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Speaker 1: So I transcribed. I sat there with ten for ten

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Speaker 1: So all those David Johnson quotes that you read from

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Speaker 1: I like it um not to mention to the combine.

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Speaker 1: Everything's my position group, you know. So right here comes

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Speaker 1: You know, like they were, they were interesting, but I thought,

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Speaker 1: That's why Mike Tomlin and Kevin Colbert take a lot

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Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely, But Matt that's gonna take place next week

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. Uh. In the meantime, the quarterbacks news

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Speaker 1: we're starting to see a little more talk about those situations.

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Speaker 1: some rumors, and it's about that season where people are

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Speaker 1: And yet the perception is that right now the Tampa

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Speaker 1: the next segment. Because Football Football Siders did a little

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Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Laally. You're listening to

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