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Speaker 1: Happy Friday. Everybody, Welcome in Texans. All access. Beautiful, beautiful day,

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Speaker 1: last weekend of the Rodeo. But we're talking foot ball.

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Speaker 1: John Harris alongside the Voice of Texas Mark Vandermer. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: you guys being with us. It's another March Madness day.

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Speaker 1: There's golf somewhere. In fact, I saw Houstonian somebody, so

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Speaker 1: I don't know where they were.

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Speaker 2: Do you know where the PGA event is this weekend?

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Speaker 3: I'll find out it's the Valvespar Open.

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Speaker 1: Okay, because Heath Degalo, who's a Houstonian right, well, now,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know he's from Houston.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of him. I like watching him.

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Speaker 1: He hit his shot today and it goes right, like

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Speaker 1: one of my drives in twenty seventeen with the late

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Speaker 1: Jamie Roots and you at the old White at Green Brother,

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Speaker 1: like it's going right, and he takes his club and

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Speaker 1: just launches it. Oh really just launched No, oh no, no,

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Speaker 1: he launched his club and the announcer basically do what

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 2: He start laughing. He's like, listen, I'm so sorry to

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Speaker 2: have laughed.

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Speaker 1: But when these guys that are so great had the

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Speaker 1: realization like the rest of us do when we're on

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Speaker 1: a course. But he was just one of those things.

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Speaker 1: He could hold himself. But the GOLLA just took his

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Speaker 1: club and he went just tossed it. I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, that's not a good day.

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Speaker 3: It's in Palm Harbor, Florida, Okay, little north of the

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Speaker 3: South Florida area Fort Lottery.

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Speaker 1: The beautiful weather there for their event, beautiful weather here

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Speaker 1: in Houston for the last weekend of the rodeo.

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Speaker 2: It's that's absolutely just fantastic.

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Speaker 3: By the way, before you get going, you brought up

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Speaker 3: something good about the pro golfers, and it applies to

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Speaker 3: all sports that anybody plays. Your kid, football, basketball, golf, anything.

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Speaker 3: Watch the pros. They make mistakes, they do. People get

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Speaker 3: down on themselves from making mistakes, and look, this is

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Speaker 3: what they do. You know, you watch NFL players drop

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Speaker 3: a ball every once in a while. You watch all

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Speaker 3: these college kids and NBA players actually miss layups. Sometimes.

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Speaker 3: Don't get down in yourself and forget about golf and putting.

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Speaker 3: My goodness, just watch a PGA tournament. Now. They get

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Speaker 3: back on track very quickly after their mistakes. They don't

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Speaker 3: tend to like get back to back Snowman's on a holes.

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Speaker 3: You know in eight eight, I'm going triple max today,

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Speaker 3: no more than.

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Speaker 2: Seven on a part four. That's all I'm writing down.

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Speaker 4: And that's pretty much what makes them great is the

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Speaker 4: fact that they don't match up a snowman with a

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Speaker 4: snowman with a seven, and they go Snowman, Okay, get

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Speaker 4: it right mentally, and then go back out and burn

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Speaker 4: it the next two holes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just something I could I could never do.

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Speaker 1: It's like being a pitcher in baseball. You walk a

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Speaker 1: guy in four pitches and you're like, I gotta make

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Speaker 1: an adjustment here, maybe armslot at this, maybe fingers here,

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Speaker 1: maybe grip there, and all of a sudden you strike out.

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Speaker 1: The next guy gets the next guy to fly out.

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Speaker 3: And Roger Clemons, I used to love watching him get

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Speaker 3: I think he just enjoys getting out of it. Maybe

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Speaker 3: he likes to challenge. Yeah, that's why he gets into him.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but you're right, Johnny. The pros handle things.

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Speaker 3: They handle their business. But I just brought that up

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Speaker 3: because everybody should just chill out when you play your sport.

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Speaker 3: Understand you're gonna make mistakes, just try to make progress.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's fascinating when you listen to the pros talk

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Speaker 1: about the game too.

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Speaker 2: And a little later in the show, won't play.

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Speaker 1: My interview with Derek Stingley that had the other day,

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Speaker 1: and Sewan and Seth were playing some of the clips

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Speaker 2: So I when you're doing an interview.

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Speaker 1: With it with somebody, I mean, I'm always listening, but

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Speaker 1: in your mind you kind of think, Okay, what's the

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Speaker 1: next question, especially when it's going on one, where do

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Speaker 1: I asked him about the first interception against the Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: and what he saw in how you know, I matched

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Speaker 2: you think.

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Speaker 1: About people like just us as fans and followers and analysts.

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Speaker 1: We know a lot about the game, but he's talking

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Speaker 1: it's incredible how smart professional athletes are. Yes, they are athletic,

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Speaker 1: and Derek can do anything on a football field athletically,

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Speaker 1: but it's how smart he is and how smart these

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Speaker 2: It's absolutely incredible could verbalize it.

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Speaker 3: A lot of guys have that knowledge, but they don't

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Speaker 3: necessarily verbalize it well he does. He explained in credible

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Speaker 3: what I knew. Okay, he likes to talk. He does,

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Speaker 3: it's just not maybe in front of huge groups or

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Speaker 3: you know, you're still here and he's not exactly an extrovert.

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Speaker 3: did the press conference the other day, is certainly talking more.

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Speaker 3: It was great to have them on the show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely was. You'll hear that interview a little

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Speaker 1: bit later in the show. Drew Dordy and I did

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Speaker 1: a mock draft for in the Lap. Now, in between

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Speaker 2: May have changed.

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Speaker 1: But actually, the more I thought about it, I was like,

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Speaker 1: the show as well. But a little bit of Texans news.

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Speaker 1: Texas make a couple of signings. Trent Brown, according to sources,

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Speaker 1: happened today, the big tackles at Cincinnati last year, was

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Speaker 1: injured for most of the year. He has signed in

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Speaker 1: addition to the guy I want to ask Mark about

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Speaker 1: that being Ronald Darby. Mark gut reaction, Ronald Darby is

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Speaker 1: a Texan. What'd you think? It's not a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: It's a one year contract. I'll give you mine real

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Speaker 1: fast more because I kind of hit you with that fast.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it because he is a

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Speaker 1: Ronald Darby. Rob Darby. I don't know how many times

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Speaker 2: And he's always played very very well.

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Speaker 1: Now can you take that for the Texans to do

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Speaker 1: Jeff Akuda what you thought you might. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: just talking about the Cavante Turpin situation. That was a

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Speaker 1: But Akudu was just not the right fit. I think

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Speaker 1: Ronald Darby could very well be. And what it might

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so that's why he transitioned outside.

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Speaker 1: you can have all that going on at the same time.

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Speaker 2: But I loved that signing Ronald Darby. What'd you think

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Speaker 3: Talked about earlier this week, corner depth they needed, they

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Speaker 3: got it with Darby.

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Speaker 3: Look, you're not gonna be able to sign you know,

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Speaker 3: Champ bailing his prime right to be corner depth for

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Speaker 3: you. You're gonna sign Ronald Darby, who he might have faced

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Speaker 3: the Texans up to six times Bill's in twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 3: Eagles in twenty eighteen. No, that's right, he was with

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Speaker 3: you could expect for corner depth, and at some point

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Speaker 3: We'll see. I'm so you know what this draft is.

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Speaker 3: It's not as exciting, let's say, as twenty twenty three

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Speaker 3: exciting when you think about the prospects of this team,

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Speaker 3: knowing how far they got the last couple of years,

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Speaker 3: the changes they've made, how they have drafted. Ye, it

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Speaker 3: hit it right. This can really be special this year.

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Speaker 3: And no questions is there's always pressure to hit it

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Speaker 3: right because I don't care who you get in free agency.

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Speaker 3: You better have those young pups coming up, growing up

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Speaker 3: and be able to take the place of certain individuals.

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Speaker 2: Well, think about it, just in the last two years,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three draft, and.

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Speaker 1: This is going to be important. And I'll explain why

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Speaker 1: a second. All right, twenty twenty three, you got your

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Speaker 1: You got Tank who went healthy as a starter. Dylan

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Speaker 1: Horton has been a rotation guy out on the edge.

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Speaker 1: Henry Toatoa is turning in one of your better defensive players.

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Speaker 1: Jerick Patterson has started at center. Xavier Hutchinson has given

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Speaker 1: you all kinds of good great stuff. That's your twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three draft right there, Like, how many guys is

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Speaker 1: that contributing? Then last year your top four guys Lassiter, Fisher,

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Speaker 1: block Stover four guys, I mean four starters in that draft.

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Speaker 3: It's too early to call twenty twenty three the greatest

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Speaker 3: draft in franchise history. We still look at two thousand. Say, oh,

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Speaker 3: is that where you're going today? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Surprise topic? And I guessed it. Well, yes, okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: you're ready for the topic. All right, okay, So here's

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Speaker 2: the topic.

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Speaker 1: So we got NCAA basketball going all the time, right

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Speaker 1: or you know, throughout the last week. Oh yeah, I

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Speaker 1: love a bracket as much as anybody. So the draft

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Speaker 1: scandals and sports. The one seed was oj the two

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Speaker 1: seed was I don't know, the Black Socks, Yeah, black socks.

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Speaker 1: Third seed was Waki Leaks many years ago, which is

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Speaker 1: then the fourth seed might have been you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, Phil Nicro or Joe Nicro with the Emery board.

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Speaker 1: And then I would say, okay, here's the one to four.

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Speaker 1: Play that contest out play the two and the three.

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Speaker 1: Who's the winner of each? Then put the two winners,

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Speaker 1: and we would solve basically that bracket.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's nice.

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Speaker 1: So that's what we're doing. Okay, I've come up with

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Speaker 1: three brackets. All right, let's go. I've come up with

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Speaker 1: three different brackets, okay, and you you get to decide.

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Speaker 2: So here we go.

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Speaker 1: The first one it is best Texans defense in history.

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Speaker 1: Now I've seeded these and that might change the way

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Speaker 1: you may have seeded them differently. And that's all right,

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Speaker 1: all right, So here the top. Here are the four seeds.

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Speaker 1: The number one seed is the twenty sixteen defense that

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Speaker 1: our friends Seth pay, Gary Walker, Aaron Glenn.

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Speaker 2: Marcus, Robin Grabb, Marks Marks Coleman.

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Speaker 1: The three seed is the Bulls on Parade twenty eleven

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Speaker 2: The number four.

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Speaker 1: Defense is last year's defense, the twenty twenty four defense

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Speaker 2: So those are the four seeds.

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Speaker 1: One seed twenty sixteen defense, number one in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: tremendous for Dom Capers, Yep and Vic Fangio. Three defense,

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Speaker 1: Bulls on Parade twenty eleven. The fourth defense is twenty

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Speaker 1: v four twenty sixteen versus twenty twenty four best Texas defense.

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Speaker 2: Choose your fighter.

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is an upset for all four wins, this

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Speaker 3: I'll take last year's defense over twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Really, yeah, twenty sixteen was number one in the league.

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Speaker 3: I know, but I still like last year's defense better Clowney.

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Speaker 3: I like the turnovers. Now that twenty sixteen defense had

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Speaker 3: Raiders in Mexico City, Oh Chargers here. Now, the Packers

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's not a common theme. And we'll get

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Speaker 3: to the two thousand and two defense in a moment here.

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Speaker 3: When you talk about how offense didn't help the defense,

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Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, that offense did not help out the defense

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Speaker 3: because you had blowout losses on the road, New England,

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Speaker 3: You were six and three, and then you go six

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Speaker 3: We know what happened down the stretch, and you played

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Speaker 3: a great game against the Raiders, but it was a

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Speaker 3: Co asterisk playoff win. But man, I loved counter cooking

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Speaker 3: the Raiders as a player. Oh give me that every

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Speaker 2: It was awesome.

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say twenty twenty four defense upset, upset,

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Speaker 3: twenty sixteen huge ups a four to one upset.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now let's go two three.

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Speaker 1: It's a good one two thousand and two defense versus

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Speaker 1: the twenty eleven defense. That's Seth Payne, That's Gary Walker,

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Mark Coleman, Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: That defense is tremendous. Twenty eleven is bulls on parade.

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Speaker 1: This is when the defense turns the corner. Twenty ten

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Speaker 1: It's Cody, It's Cushing, it's j Jo Cream, Danielle Manning

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Speaker 2: Red as a rookie.

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Speaker 3: Twenty eleven wins. Now, I'll tell you a better matchup,

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Speaker 3: not that it would have been seated properly, But a

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Speaker 3: good matchup would have been the two defense, Gary Walker

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Speaker 3: Aaron Glenn making the Pro Bowl yep. And and they

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Speaker 3: finished sixteenth in yards, which was it doesn't sound good,

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Speaker 3: They were that bad on offense. So that defense, if

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Speaker 3: you look at the scores that year, they're very close.

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Speaker 3: They hold it together against Manning, Steve McNair, all these teams.

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Speaker 1: Now, they won a game against Ben Roethlisberger on their own.

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Speaker 3: It was Tommy Maddocks actionally, yes, but they stared three touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's look that O two defense. I love them,

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Speaker 3: I love those guys, those ogs, but twenty eleven is

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Speaker 3: gonna beat them. Okay, But the two versus sixteen would

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Speaker 3: have been interesting because both those defenses were hampered by

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go twenty eleven, Johnny. Okay, So here's our

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four defense as the four seed versus the

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Speaker 3: It's twenty eleven.

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Speaker 3: Twenty eleven was the highest rated defense in points and

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Speaker 3: They were just automatic top five offense. But not that

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Speaker 3: Kevin Walter to cap that drive. It was an amazing game.

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Speaker 3: But that defense so good playoff game at Baltimore, keeping

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Speaker 3: Texans defense of all time still.

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Speaker 2: Twenty eleven, You're champion the three seed? Okay, do you

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Speaker 1: I mean I put twenty sixteen as the number one seed.

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Speaker 1: I just felt like, I just felt like clowney, merciless

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Speaker 1: will fork Reider might be the best. I mean arguably,

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Speaker 1: the I mean that front was that from was incredible.

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Speaker 1: It was nasty.

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Speaker 2: But you're right they did on the road.

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Speaker 1: Man, there were some games, but I don't know, Clowning

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Speaker 3: Up, it was bad for the opposent.

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Speaker 2: It was not good.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and I think he also I think Clowning was

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Speaker 1: I can really kind of spread my wings here and

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Speaker 1: Mario Williams had stayed healthy. You know who knows because

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think twenty eleven is probably the right way,

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Speaker 1: and we.

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Speaker 2: Got to keep motivated.

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Speaker 3: Wait, he didn't have seven day at seven. He had

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got to keep the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: Going to the twenty twenty five. Okay, here's your next topic.

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Speaker 1: Okay, next bracket, Next bracket, twenty twenty four moments. Okay,

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Speaker 1: top seed, top seed Derek Barnett scoop and score versus

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Speaker 1: Dallas on Monday Night Football. Okay, go on number two.

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Speaker 1: The second seed is CJ. Stroud. Ball goes through his hands,

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Speaker 1: two seed. Number three, the man who will join us

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Speaker 1: later in this show. His two picks versus Miami. That

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Speaker 1: twenty to twelve. Derek Stingley Junior has two picks in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, shutting down the unshutdown a bowl, Tyreek

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Speaker 1: Hill and number four you're gonna like this one, Okay,

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Speaker 1: sweeping the Colts.

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Speaker 2: Ooh one se.

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Speaker 1: Derek Barnett scoop and score versus Dallas Comday Night Football.

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Speaker 2: Number two CJ.

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Speaker 1: Shroud dribble pass to Xavier Hutchinson against the charge of

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Speaker 1: the playoff game. Number three Derek Stingley's two fourth quarter

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Speaker 2: Sweeping the Horseshoes.

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Speaker 1: So opening night Battle one the four Derek Barnett scoop

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Speaker 3: Sweeping the Colts. This is this is an upset. Not

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Speaker 3: only an upset, it's a blowout upset. Okay, swiping the

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Speaker 3: Colts over Derek Barnett. Oh, Derek scoop and score is

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Speaker 3: great play.

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Speaker 2: It's against Dallas and Monday Night Football. It's a good thing.

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Speaker 3: We never want, I know, but it's oparent just sweeping

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Speaker 3: the Colts. In my mind, it's cute. Okay, sweeping the

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Speaker 3: Colts is monumental, John, does it happen off? All right?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: There are probably a lot of people. There are probably

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Speaker 1: the big deal. Mark, we beat the Colts twice, like whatever. No,

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Speaker 2: You've said this throughout the season. You're like, don't overlook

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Speaker 3: You ever can never do it, and you can never

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Speaker 3: have enough victories against them. Yeah, you must make them

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Speaker 3: miserable for years. It has to be. It should go

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Speaker 3: me to hang stuff up in there, I'd be like,

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Speaker 3: sweep the Colt, not beat the Colt, sweep the Colts,

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Speaker 3: sweep those horseshoe wearing all right, it's a blowout, upset.

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Speaker 1: It's seed beating a one. It's a shocker, not even close.

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Speaker 3: I think the committee didn't get it right with that

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Speaker 2: But go on, I don't know, man. It was against Dallas.

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Speaker 1: It was big Dylan petrieonians involved in that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a great moment.

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Speaker 3: You don't have anything against the Buffalo in that top.

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Speaker 2: No, I did, and that was huge.

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Speaker 3: No, I was I the ending moment.

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Speaker 1: You know what number four, the four number four seed

441
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Speaker 1: was gonna be was Coymie Schielgal against Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: I think what everything leading up to that, the three

443
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Speaker 3: in complete passes. The punt Robert Woods getting it into

444
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,639
Speaker 3: range was long range, but getting into range with just

445
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,199
Speaker 3: enough time left for Eming to drill it through was huge.

446
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,159
Speaker 3: The execution at the end of that game was phenomenal. Okay,

447
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 3: all right, what's the two three, the two three.

448
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Speaker 1: Or four CJ's dribble pass Xavier Hutchinson against the Chargers

449
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Speaker 1: or Derek Stingley's two picks in the fourth quarter against

450
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Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill and the Dolphins.

451
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Speaker 3: Stingley's picks are huge because if they don't win that game,

452
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Speaker 3: who knows what happened exactly. Let's say the Texans lou

453
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Speaker 3: the Colts are playing later that day at Denver. Do

454
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Speaker 3: they play better? No? I think Sexons went.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely think so.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a difference there. I think that they

457
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Speaker 3: win necessarily, but it could have made a difference for them.

458
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Speaker 3: And if you if that happens, weren't you gonna be

459
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Speaker 3: tied with them? Yes?

460
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Speaker 1: Yes, if they won, to get tied with three to

461
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Speaker 1: go and you had Chiefs Ravens, Chiefs.

462
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Speaker 3: Ravens coming up like huh oh, now you've got to

463
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Speaker 3: play Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: More than likely with your full group because you don't

465
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Speaker 2: have it clinched exactly.

466
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Speaker 3: You could have been Jacksonville twenty twenty three, but Sting

467
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Speaker 3: made sure it didn't happen. And as big as those are,

468
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 3: CJ's is bigger, Okay, CJ. Because Johnny, that play by

469
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 3: CJ snap going through his hands, it's like kind of

470
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Speaker 3: like a microcosm of the season, like, oh no, what's

471
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Speaker 3: really happening with CJ. Oh, CJ's fine, Say he's back,

472
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Speaker 3: He's great, And in one play, in one play, all

473
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Speaker 3: of that happens. I love that play, and I think

474
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Speaker 3: that play sent us into the offseason, despite what happened

475
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Speaker 3: at Kansas City the following week, sent us into the

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Speaker 3: offseason with way more of a glow about CJ and

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Speaker 3: the offense's prospects. Moving forward into twenty twenty five and beyond.

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Speaker 1: Is it enough to overtake sweeping the Colts? Your championship matchup?

479
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Speaker 1: The four seeds? Sweeping the Colts versus the two seeds?

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Speaker 1: CJ's dribble past Xavier Hutchins City.

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Speaker 3: Shot at the buzzer. Sweeping the Colts because if you

482
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Speaker 3: don't sleep the another four seed, Yes, all right, Colts

483
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Speaker 3: is the most important thing, and I'm gonna say it

484
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Speaker 3: about twenty twenty five too. Sweep the freaking Colts do

485
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Speaker 3: it again. Keep them down, keep your foot on their neck. Yeah,

486
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Speaker 3: because it's all about the division first. You gotta make

487
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Speaker 3: sure you take care of business in your division, on

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Speaker 3: your block.

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Speaker 1: Thus far, our two brackets best Texans defense was the

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Speaker 1: three seed to twenty eleven Bulls on Parade. Best twenty

491
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Speaker 1: twenty four moment bracket went to sweeping the Colts.

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Speaker 2: The four seed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but as far as one single play, I'd say, CJS.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, finally yeah, best draft in Texans history.

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, we don't have enough time, all right, but

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Speaker 3: I can do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So here we go.

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Speaker 1: The one seed in a not really an upset, but

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Speaker 1: they're kind of like Loyola Merrymount. They just kept shooting

500
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Speaker 1: and gunning. They just kept running and going and going

501
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Speaker 1: and going right. The twenty twenty three class, which that's

502
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Speaker 1: the one seed, included CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud, Will Anderson two three two Scrugs.

504
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Speaker 1: Tank Dell, Dylan Horton, Henry TOATOA Jarted Patterson, Xavier Hutchinson.

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Speaker 2: That's the one seed.

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Speaker 1: The number two seed is often thought to be the

507
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Speaker 1: best draft in Texas history. The twenty six draft featuring

508
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Speaker 1: Mario Williams one dot one, a man named Demico Ryans

509
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Speaker 1: in the second round, Charles Spencer, who could been a

510
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Speaker 1: great how he stayed healthy. Then you had Eric Winston

511
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Speaker 1: starting right tackle, Owen Daniels the best tight ended team history,

512
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Speaker 1: Wally Lundy, and my favorite, David Anderson. Two thousand and

513
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Speaker 1: six is the second seed. The third seed is two

514
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Speaker 1: thousand and nine. Brian Cushion goes to pick number fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Second round, Connor Barwin, third round, Antoine Bubba Caldwell, fourth

516
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Speaker 1: round arguably the best one of the best Day three

517
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Speaker 1: picks I've ever made, Glover Quinn also in the fourth round,

518
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Speaker 1: Anthony Hill, tied enm from North Carolina State didn't really

519
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Speaker 1: work out.

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Speaker 2: James Casey from Rice was a great pick.

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Speaker 1: In the fifth round, Bryce McCain in the sixth, and

522
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Speaker 1: Troy Nolan didn't really work out. He was in the seventh.

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Speaker 1: Two thousand and nine is the three seed and the

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Speaker 1: fourth seed. Twenty eleven. Okay, some guy named.

525
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Speaker 2: Watt went with pick number eleven.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Brooks Reed was then a second round pick.

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Speaker 1: Brandon Harris, shot Carmichael Shallowcadt but at quarterback from North Carolina,

529
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Speaker 1: invited to combine to just be a combine arm turn

530
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Speaker 1: into a cult hero for the Texans.

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Speaker 2: TJ.

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Speaker 1: Yeats and Derek Newton from Arkansas State in the seventh round.

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Speaker 1: Watt Reid Yates Newton twenty eleven is the fourth seed. Okay,

534
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Speaker 1: so the one to four matchup will save Let's do

535
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Speaker 1: two verses three?

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Speaker 2: First year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this game is in Dayton, so it's oh nine.

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Speaker 1: So the second seed is two thousand and six versus

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Speaker 1: the three seed two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 3: If Drew were here, he would say, oh nine, He

541
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Speaker 3: would say oh nine, But I'm gonna say oh six. Okay,

542
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Speaker 3: all right. First of all, Mario Williams put up some

543
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Speaker 3: big numbers.

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Speaker 2: He did. People don't want to believe that, but he did, don't.

545
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Speaker 3: I mean, look at his numbers compared to Clowney. They're better.

546
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 3: They're numbers, they're better. Clowney is kind of sexier, but

547
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Speaker 3: Mario put up better numbers. And Mario, if he played

548
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Speaker 3: three more years at a high level, you're talking about

549
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 3: a Hall of Fame potential player there, ye Demiko, I mean,

550
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 3: is he the best linebacker? He's not the leading total

551
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 3: tack learned team history, but he's the leading solo tack

552
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 3: learned team history. So he's the best linebacker you ever had.

553
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 3: Team captain Waite Smith on with us yesterday talking about

554
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 3: he was my captain. He plays offense. Okay, that's how

555
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 3: they regard Tomiko. Now he's the head coach of the

556
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Speaker 3: football team. Eric Winston beautiful, great right tackle, Owen Daniels,

557
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 3: my gosh, Uh, David Anderson really good player. Undrafted free

558
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 3: agents don't camp. But Mike Brazell was in this class too.

559
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 3: I like nine as well. How can you not with

560
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 3: Kushing Barwin.

561
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Speaker 2: I mean, we like all four of these drafts.

562
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Speaker 1: Oh gave us some great guys and some tremendous players,

563
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: including one future Hall of Famer. Uh, at least that

564
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: we know of right now. O six wins, Oh, six wins. Okay,

565
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Speaker 1: let's get to the one v.

566
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Speaker 3: Four all right.

567
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Speaker 2: This kind of feels like, in a sense you've seen that.

568
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Speaker 1: That gift of the the Uh, who's the guy from

569
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: three hundred the movie three hundred Butler? Yeah, our Butler

570
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: is standing there and like everybody is running at him,

571
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: and he's just standing there like he's ready to fight.

572
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 1: It's like, that's why any here comes CJA. The entire

573
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Speaker 1: twenty three draft one v. Four twenty twenty three to

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Speaker 1: one seed, the four C twenty eleven picket.

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Speaker 3: Eleven has such a great story because of what and Yeates, Yeah,

576
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 3: Brooks Reed did some things here too. He's really good

577
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Speaker 3: in the playoffs. Yeates, though, the folk hero that he

578
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 3: is for this organization adds to the draft. And Newton

579
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 3: starter at right tackle. But what can't hold everybody by himself?

580
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 3: Basically he can't even though he's going into Canton, he

581
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 3: can't hold back the class of twenty twenty three as

582
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Speaker 3: a whole. And look, only time will tell. We go

583
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Speaker 3: five more years and who knows what happens in the postseason.

584
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Speaker 3: This is definitely the number one class twenty twenty three,

585
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Speaker 3: but we're only two years in. However, so far, so

586
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 3: very good. Y. I mean, when you consider the history

587
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 3: of this team and you're talking about two division championships,

588
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 3: two seasons and playoff victories, very nice drought Anderson Jews tank,

589
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 3: my gosh, Henry leading tackler on the team last year

590
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 3: actually that big catch and several others. Jared Patterson, a

591
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 3: starter at center, for a chunk of time over the

592
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Speaker 3: last two years. I love the class in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this feels like USCV Texas in two thousand and five,

594
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: your championship battle the one seed CJ. Stroudwill Anderson Company

595
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three and in two.

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Speaker 2: Thousand and six.

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Speaker 1: On the other side, they're head coached Miko Ryans, Mario Williams,

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Speaker 1: Owen Daniels and David Anderson. Who wins twenty twenty three

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Speaker 1: versus two thousand and six.

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Speaker 3: I think six still wins it for now. Oh, it's

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Speaker 3: kind of like when the Celtics held off the Pistons

602
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Speaker 3: at eighty seven.

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00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: And birdstole the ball. You knew it was coming.

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Speaker 3: You knew it was coming, but did it wasn't That's

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Speaker 3: a really dated reference, but those who followed it closely understand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know that the young Bucks from twenty

608
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Speaker 3: twenty three are going to be regarded as the best class.

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Speaker 3: They just only have two years into this thing, you know.

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Speaker 3: Or like Jordan putting up sixty three at the Garden. Uh, oh,

611
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Speaker 3: it's common they lost in a sweep. Yeah, it hadn't

612
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 3: happened yet, but you saw what's gonna happen, and this

613
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 3: is gonna happen. This is gonna be the greatest franchise

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Speaker 3: draft class ever. Twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: As a side note, you you want to learned me

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Speaker 1: to this to on Max the Celtics Doc. Yeah, the

617
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Speaker 1: first three episodes, it's unbelievable. It's it's incredible because they have.

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Speaker 3: It's a social unrest in Boston.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's it's so incredibly good. So check that out,

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Speaker 2: all right?

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Speaker 1: Bracket time, best defense became the three seed twenty eleven's defense.

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Speaker 1: The best moment in twenty twenty four was a four

623
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Speaker 1: seed snuck in, but they ended up getting hot in

624
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Speaker 1: a tournament sweeping the Colts. Was the four seed that

625
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Speaker 1: was the best moment and the best drafted team history.

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Speaker 1: It's the two seed for now, the two thousand and

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Speaker 1: six Houston Texans, led by one Mario Williams and Demico

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Speaker 1: Ryans and On Daniels and David Anderson as well. All right,

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Speaker 1: we get back Drew and I to mock draft for

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Speaker 1: in the lab. We did it about two hours before

631
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Speaker 1: the Texans signed Cam Robinson. But I'm gonna still make

632
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: it worth its wox. I remember who we picked and

633
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Speaker 1: I remember how we went about it, and I think

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Speaker 1: it still fits.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna have that next on Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: Stepan, everybody, Welcome back to this Friday issue of Texas

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Speaker 1: All Access from today Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host,

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00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter. Some news for your

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Speaker 1: Texans if you missed it, Ronald Darby signed with the Texans.

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00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: That was made official yesterday. Mark and I talked about

641
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: that in the first segment.

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Speaker 1: Trent Brown, formerly of the Niners, the Patriots, and last

643
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Speaker 1: year the Bengals. You often forgot about him because he

644
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: only played the first three games and then tore his

645
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Speaker 1: pateller tendon and set out the rest of the year

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Speaker 1: with that injury, a similar injury to what Josh Simmons,

647
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Speaker 1: Ohio State draft prospect, and he will come up here

648
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Speaker 1: in just a little bit for a particular reason. But

649
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Speaker 1: Trent Brown trying to resurrect a career. One year deal,

650
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Speaker 1: not a lot of money, but Trent Brown now a

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Speaker 1: Houston Texan.

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Speaker 2: More paint thrown on the canvas at that offensive line position.

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Speaker 1: Over the last few days, Cam Robinson Trent Brown both

654
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: brought in to play presumably tackles. I know Cam probably

655
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: left tackle. Trent's probably played right in the past. I

656
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: don't think they would move in the guard. We'll see,

657
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: but Trent Brown now a member of the Texans. So

658
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: before those moves happened, Drew Doherty and I did a

659
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: mock draft on in the Lap.

660
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Speaker 2: We like to do this from time to time.

661
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: We examined all the trades, and even though things had

662
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: changed a little bit, when I went back and I

663
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 1: listened to and looked at who we ended up selecting,

664
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Speaker 1: I even thought that these moves that were made with

665
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,719
Speaker 1: Robinson and Ronald Darby and now Trent Brown. Really I

666
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: think our draft sort of fits right in line with that.

667
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: I don't think we really had to change anything. So

668
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,959
Speaker 2: let's do it. Let's get into our mock draft.

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Speaker 1: At pig number twenty five, I was considering some defensive linemen,

670
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: but I eventually settled.

671
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Speaker 2: On the star of the Senior Bowl.

672
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: I mean, between Tyler Williams, Walter Nolan, and Kenneth Grant,

673
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: who's right there beyond Greys Abel, you got three tremendous options. Yeah,

674
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: but you've really bolstered your defensive line, and I think

675
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: you can get defensive line later in the draft. I

676
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: think defensive line number eight is way better than into

677
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: your offensive line number eight, if that makes sense. So

678
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Speaker 1: I think at this point I've kind of got circled

679
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: number thirty three on Pffan's board, and that's greys Abel.

680
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: That's right, We're bringing grays Abel to Houston in the

681
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: lab mock draft pick number twenty five. Can play dark

682
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: play tackle, might even end up being the best at center.

683
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 2: He split out three positions in college. Love everything about him.

684
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: Athletic thirty six and a half inch vertical, had a

685
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: great senior bowl, had a great career south at North

686
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Speaker 1: Dakota State. We're going Grayzable at pick number twenty five.

687
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: So it's time for pick number fifty eight. And I

688
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: kept looking at the board and I don't think it

689
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: falls because this guy's gonna end up being a top

690
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: twenty player for me. But there was a particular old

691
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: miss defensive lineman still on the board that I just

692
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: couldn't take my eyes off. And he became our pick

693
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: at number fifty eight. Then I look at defensive line.

694
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: Walter Nolan at number fifty eight is a freaking steal.

695
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 1: Let's do that then, let's do it. I think Walter

696
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: Nolan fifty eight is to steal. There's some reason labels

697
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: on the field.

698
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

699
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's a freakazoid. He can disappear at times.

700
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: But getting him a fifty eight, I think he's a

701
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: great pick. So I like that walteron Nolan. Nolan is

702
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: one hell of an athlete, number one recruit in the

703
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: country at twenty twenty two, ended up at A and

704
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: M and then moving on to Old Miss. There were

705
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: games at Old Miss where he just took the game over,

706
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: just took it over. And there were games you're like, oh, hey,

707
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 1: where's number two? At Senior Bowl. You could just see

708
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: the bounce of the twitch off the snap of me.

709
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: It was incredible to watch. Okay, that gets us to

710
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Speaker 1: pick number seventy eight. And we were looking at the

711
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,479
Speaker 1: board and all of a sudden, we you listed about

712
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: six or seven names, and then I said, Drew, look

713
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: at who next in our list.

714
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 2: We scrolled down a little bit more and we found this.

715
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Speaker 2: Who's next is Jared Wilson from Georgia.

716
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 3: He's a center.

717
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 5: Now I have seen a few different people that I

718
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 5: really really respect over the last month or two. Say

719
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 5: you can get Wilson, Ratledge or who's a third from Georgia,

720
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 5: the interior guy, Dylan Fairschild or Dylan Fairchild. You can

721
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 5: plug them in and you will never have to worry

722
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 5: for a while. You'll have starters there that like, that's

723
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 5: that put off like sirens in warning six.

724
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Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna'm gonna throw one more siren at you, Okay,

725
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: and hopefully you respect the guy that you're doing this

726
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: podcast with.

727
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 2: Yep, because my name is John Harris.

728
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know for Plano Syline Report for Houston Texans

729
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: Football Takeover Deck. Hopefully've done a lot of draft football

730
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Speaker 1: takeover dot Colm Jared Wilson is the best center that

731
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: I've studied in a long time.

732
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Speaker 3: That's all you gotta say.

733
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Speaker 2: Let's take him. I love Wilson. I think he is

734
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 2: a tremendous center.

735
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: Uh.

736
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Speaker 1: They've had some centers come out at Georgia, you know,

737
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,240
Speaker 1: from the Ben Jones going forward. You know center Fan

738
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: Graingery a couple of years ago. This guy is the

739
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: best I've seen and he is tremendous. I think he

740
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: play in his own scheme. I think you need to

741
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: hold up against zero techniques I think you can do

742
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: a little bit of everything at center. Bring him here,

743
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: throw him into the competition. But we weren't done in

744
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 1: the third round. We looked at the list, we saw

745
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 1: a lot of names we liked. We'd liked Emery Jones,

746
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: he was on the board at this point. But we've

747
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: kind of gone offensive line already in this draft, and

748
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: we've already added today. Trent Brown came Robinson a couple

749
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 1: days ago, so we've really been adding Pieces Lake and

750
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: Tomlinson at Ingram a few days before that.

751
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 2: So we kind of felt like we had beaten that

752
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: drum a little bit.

753
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: But one area we felt like we hadn't addressed yet

754
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: with our picks was wide receiver. And then I looked

755
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: at the list and it went down about four or

756
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: five names, and I saw it right there, there's the

757
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: name I was interested in, right there at pick number

758
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: eighty nine. So to me, what I don't know that

759
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: you have is Jack Besh. I think Jack Besh is

760
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: the swarmiest of the swarming. I think one of my favorite,

761
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: my favorite moment in the Senior Bowl was the Ran

762
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: toss crack and Jack Besh was in the Nico Collins

763
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: alignment and that means you got the down block on

764
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: a defensive end. And Jack Besh hit rj Oben from

765
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: Notre Dame and then stayed on the block to a

766
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: point where rj Oben is basically like banging on the

767
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: back of him, like get him off, me, get him

768
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: off me.

769
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: Besh can run. He's gonna be in four to five range.

770
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: Kind of got some build up speed, great hands, tough,

771
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: mentally tough. Fortune lost his brother, Tiger Besh in the

772
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: tragedy in New Orleans this past New Year's Eve, and

773
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowls basically dedicated to him, and he rose

774
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: up and just was incredible. There you go, Low, what's

775
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: your appetite? With Gray Zabel, Walter Nolan, Jared Wilson and

776
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: Jack Besh.

777
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 2: That was a really fun mock draft.

778
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: But the guy the Texans drafted number three overall in

779
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, that was Derek Stingley Junior. He's a

780
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: stud He jumped in studio with me to go one

781
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: on one exclusively. Right here, we have won final segment

782
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: this Friday issue of Texans All Access from.

783
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Speaker 2: Monday, Texans Radio Studio.

784
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Harris, Football Analyst Sideline reporter Earlier

785
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: this week, I had a chance to go one on

786
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: one with one of my favors of this building, Derek

787
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: Stingley Junior, the y'all pro three year, ninety million dollar extension,

788
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 1: said he want to stay in Houston for his career,

789
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: and we're moving in that direction signing a second contract

790
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: with the Texans. Here's my discussion one on one with

791
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: all prosting My man guy wanted all along twenty twenty two.

792
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: In fact, I actually wanted you wait before that. I

793
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 1: don't know if I've ever told you the story Derek

794
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: Stingley Junior in studio twenty nineteen. I walked into the studio.

795
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: We were having trouble covering people and I walked in.

796
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: I said to Mark, I was like, man, I wish

797
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: we had that kid from LSU. And he goes, he

798
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: goes who Stingley? I said, yeah, and he goes, well,

799
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: year is he?

800
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 6: I know?

801
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: He's a true fresh And we got to wait and

802
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, we're not gonna get him anyways.

803
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: Lo and behold you end up here in Houston. Derek

804
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: has been one of the best things for the franchise.

805
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: You get the extension he signed the extension. First of all,

806
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: how do you feel just to kind of have I

807
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: don't know if that was weighing on you at all,

808
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: but just to have that done it over with, how's

809
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: it feel?

810
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 6: I mean, it feels great. I'm glad to be a

811
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 6: part of this team for you know, more time. Oh

812
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 6: hopefully you know, a little bit longer and then I'm

813
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 6: just ready to get back to work, like keep going.

814
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: So I saw you in the hallway two days after

815
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: you signing extension. You're out there working with a bunch

816
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: of guys, and you've got more guys here seemingly in

817
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: the building at this time of year than ever before.

818
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 2: And you mentioned it in the Ryan Clark podcast.

819
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: You talked about setting a standard that Nico the year

820
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: before you saw what he went through and you wanted

821
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Speaker 1: to be able.

822
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Speaker 2: To set a standard. Why was that important to you

823
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 2: for this organization?

824
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Speaker 6: Well, really, like like you said, Nico, Nico was already

825
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 6: here doing all that, so like that that standards is

826
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 6: already set. So I mean I was just trying to

827
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 6: keep up with how we how things operate around here,

828
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 6: and hopefully more people just do that on a consistent basis.

829
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Speaker 2: You get drafted in twenty twenty two, I'm not very good.

830
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two, the Miko comes in, we get

831
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: a few more players to come in.

832
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 2: Things change. You saw it before you see it now.

833
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: What's kind of been the biggest thing you think in

834
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: the transformation of this organization, Derek?

835
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Speaker 6: In your opinion, you actually like, like on the like.

836
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Speaker 1: Just from the team perspective, what's been different from when

837
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: you got here to what it is now?

838
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Speaker 6: Well, really, I think that the group of guys that

839
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 6: we got or that we had on the team last

840
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 6: year and the year before that just like an immediate

841
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 6: like almost like a chemistry. Yeah, right, thing played into that,

842
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 6: like going through the workouts before the season started, like

843
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 6: you can already see like you you know how to

844
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 6: talk to your teammates, and then by the time you

845
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 6: get on the field start doing practice, then that's where

846
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 6: you start seeing like like how people are when they

847
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 6: come to.

848
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: Competition on the field.

849
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 6: And then by the time we get to the actual games,

850
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 6: it's like everybody's already clicking. And I mean you just

851
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 6: see that from the from the beginning.

852
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: So I grew up about thirty minutes from here. My

853
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: dad was my coach. My dad had a way of

854
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: getting kind of tough on me. I know, your dad

855
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: coached you for a long time, and when my dad

856
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: got tough on me, I always had moms that was there.

857
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: And a lot of people talk about your dad and

858
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: the impact, but what about your moms being there for

859
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: you throughout this entire journey.

860
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: As much as your dad.

861
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean without without her, Like I mean it's

862
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 6: say it's the same for both. Like if without what

863
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 6: they do, I wouldn't be sitting right here right now,

864
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 6: like like yeah, with my dad a lot working out

865
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 6: and you know, just you know football and it really

866
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 6: is more than football, but like talking about but yeah,

867
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 6: so yeah with football with him and then with my

868
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 6: mom is like you know, like you see the family

869
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 6: side of like like her side of the family, like

870
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 6: how they always together, how they always you know, communicating

871
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 6: and stuff like that. So I mean it's different levels

872
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 6: to what they do. And I mean a lot of

873
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 6: people don't have that, but I got it.

874
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: So to hell of support system.

875
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: Man, And they're the only two people that get to

876
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 1: the stadium before any of us too, which I think

877
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: it's fantastic. I've seen him in every single stadium before

878
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: I get there. And I'm one of the first to

879
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: get there. One of the things I love doing with

880
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: you is talking about the game. We talk about things

881
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: that have happened in the game, like you can give

882
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: me the details and everything. We after Jacksonville game and

883
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: you had an interception and you gave me a whole

884
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: breakdown of what happened against Brian Thomas. So I'm gonna

885
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: give you my favorite interception and I want you to

886
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: tell me what happened December fifteenth, twenty twenty four, fourth

887
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: down against Miami Dolphins. The first interception when you're one

888
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: on one on Tyreek Hill, the one in the south

889
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: end zone or near the south end zone. Take me

890
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: through that play and what happened you remember, I know

891
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: you got the recall.

892
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, So.

893
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 6: On that play, I think it was either to play

894
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 6: before or to play or two plays before that he

895
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 6: ran He took an outside release and ran a dig

896
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 6: and he caught the ball for a first down. And

897
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 6: that that really the way he ran the route. It

898
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 6: was kind of weird, like you're not You're not gonna

899
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 6: see nobody else run that how he runs it, So

900
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 6: all right, anyway, So that's that's that's beforehand.

901
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 2: So that said in your brain, that's something that said

902
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: something out right. And then.

903
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 6: Either the next player or two players after after he

904
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 6: caught that past it was kind of like the shot

905
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 6: area going into the field, and I kind of like,

906
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 6: I just had a thought in my mind that he

907
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 6: wasn't going to try to just run past me all

908
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 6: right here, even though he could have because we was

909
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 6: in single high and they had a lot of field

910
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 6: to work with to like a front pile line throw

911
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 6: or back pile line, whichever one they wanted to do.

912
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 6: But he took the release and he still he stayed

913
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 6: kind of vertical off of his first couple of steps.

914
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 6: And then when he was running like he wouldn't like Tyree.

915
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 6: He has a specific type of run and how he

916
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 6: looks when he's running like he but I just had

917
00:43:58,560 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 6: a feeling that he was about to break and then

918
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 6: and I just kind of locked in on the hill.

919
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 6: And then once he turned, I turned look for the ball.

920
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 2: A lot of people when they the NFL put out

921
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 2: a video. I don't know if you know this. The

922
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 2: NFL put out a video on Twitter.

923
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: It was like three and a half minutes of your

924
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: best places going all the way back to your game

925
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: against Jackson with your first interception in your career, it

926
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: was an interception, past breakup, et cetera. I think what

927
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: people miss a lot about you, it's how well you

928
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: play the run and how well you come up and

929
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: how willing you are to come up and tackle.

930
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: Where did that kind of start for you?

931
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: It's always has it always been part of your game

932
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 1: that you're going to take pride in not only.

933
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 6: Cover people, but coming up and making tackles as well. Yeah,

934
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 6: I mean that that kind of well, I mean going

935
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 6: back to a little kid. Yeah, but once once I

936
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 6: got into college, my defensive back coach, Cory Raymond, he

937
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 6: would always say.

938
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:47,479
Speaker 2: Y'all got to tackle.

939
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 6: Y'all got to y'all gotta know how to come down

940
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 6: and make a tackle, hit with this shoulder, this foot forward.

941
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 6: And he would just say that and we would kind

942
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 6: of look at him like why, like you know, like

943
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 6: what's the point of us really getting in there and tackling.

944
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 6: But I mean it turned out that, I mean, to

945
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 6: be a great, a better corner, you got to show

946
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 6: up in the run like you gotta. You gotta be

947
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 6: reliable or they just gonna run the ball at you

948
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 6: thirty times a game and you're not gonna help the

949
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 6: team if you can't make the tackles.

950
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: And now on the other side of you got this

951
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: young buck. He'll come up and do things.

952
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 1: And you said, use the word crazy, and I think

953
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: that kind of fits with the way Kamari plays and

954
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 1: Kaitlin's back there. Now you're adding CJ to you guys,

955
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about the secondary and what you've

956
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: got now with those two young bucks. Now in the

957
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: second year, you're coming back, JP coming back healthy, Chauncey

958
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 1: being added to the mix.

959
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 6: What you think about your secondary now? I mean, I

960
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 6: think I think we can just keep growing. There's always

961
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 6: room to grow, Like, yeah, we had what we how many?

962
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 6: Like we all we had a couple of sicks each

963
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 6: last year?

964
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, now so that's like twenty I think between y'all. Right, So,

965
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 2: but I.

966
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 6: Know I'm speaking for everybody, and I know that we

967
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 6: all dropped some interceptions.

968
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 2: Like we all yeah, I wasn't gonna say it, was

969
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: gonna let you say.

970
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 6: It, like we all dropped the light, like we left

971
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 6: a lot out there on the field. So I mean,

972
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 6: just getting back to the basics of fundamentals, like why

973
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 6: did that happen. Why did this happen? And just going

974
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 6: out there and probably getting like thirty each.

975
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 2: That'd be nice.

976
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: I got to ask you about the commitment from the organization,

977
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: from the McNair's on down, making that commitment to you

978
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: for the next how many every years? And you said

979
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 1: it on the podcast, you want to be in Houston.

980
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: Like a lot of us, we want to be in Houston.

981
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: I think when we see players that say we love

982
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 1: Houston so much we want to be here, that you

983
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: you're endearing yourself to us. But the organization has been

984
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: endeared to you, from the McNair's on down.

985
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: How does it feel that they make the commitment to you.

986
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 6: I mean it feels great, and I mean I want

987
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 6: to thank thank the McNair's for having me here, believing

988
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 6: in me since I since I before I got here

989
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 6: them Nick Serio, Miko Dino, see like everybody, everybody, that's

990
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:14,919
Speaker 6: a part of my growth as a player in the NFL.

991
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 6: But really, you know the mcnery without them, I would

992
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 6: I wouldn't be here, so no doubt.

993
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: Congratulations Derek Stingley as we know him all pro sting You're.

994
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 2: The very beast man.

995
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: Appreciate your time. Thanks so glad Number twenty four is

996
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: here in Houston. Big thanks to him, big thanks to Mark,

997
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: to Drew, to all of you for listening. We'll see

998
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: you next time and as always, go Texans,