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Speaker 1: a mouthful. That was a lot to take in right there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Big weekend took place, a lot to break down, a

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Speaker 1: lot of good fun football to watch, a lot of fun,

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Speaker 1: especially in the NFL games. College football not so much.

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Speaker 1: It was more just me getting ready to watch like

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Speaker 1: the the later slates obviously USC, Nebraska, Michigan, Purdue. I

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Speaker 1: was really excited about. I didn't get a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of Oklahoma Tennessee, and I think that was because of

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Speaker 1: the dispute going on with ESPN and YouTube and I

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Speaker 1: had to bounce back and forth. That was a bit

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Speaker 1: of pain in the ass for me.

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Speaker 2: That figured out as as soon as possible, so as possible.

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Speaker 2: There was a few how to do that.

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Speaker 1: With Vandy Texas as well. Earlier in the day.

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Speaker 3: Whose side of you, guys, ow are you on YouTube

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Speaker 3: TV side or you on ESPN?

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Speaker 1: I'm on the side of get it done. I don't

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Speaker 1: even know who who's right or wrong in the situation.

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Speaker 1: I just boys, put the swords down and let the

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Speaker 1: viewer win.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're on the viewer side, you're on the customer side.

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Speaker 4: Because that that we're all the people, they kind of

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Speaker 4: take the hit. So YouTube TV was what offering like

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Speaker 4: a twenty dollars credit. ESPN wants it to go over

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Speaker 4: on their app, which, okay, they do have the they

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Speaker 4: do have the.

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Speaker 2: Sec what Monday Night Football? Yeah? What else do they

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Speaker 2: have that are like big Abc? ABC? Yeah, a bunch.

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Speaker 3: Of uh hold on greedy corporate fact.

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Speaker 4: Okay, everybody is. Everybody is. We're sitting back and watching.

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Speaker 4: We're watching like YouTube, Google, Disney.

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Speaker 1: We don't gotta cut it. We just gotta know that.

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Speaker 1: Mitch Carlsey said that not talllor one will comptent.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 1: In the world of television, everyone's trying to make their money.

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Speaker 1: I absolutely, but I know that a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: I had cable Will sat there and said, hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: you started, you gotta go on these streams. Like the

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Speaker 1: streaming services are incredible. You get everything you want more

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Speaker 1: and it's less it's it's less expensive all the things,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, bro, yes, I jump on get rid

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Speaker 1: of cable. Now the streaming surface is kind of one

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Speaker 1: where everyone's kind of got something. We're like, oh I

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Speaker 1: it's way more it's way more expensive. Now the streaming

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Speaker 1: surfaces have kind of won. Now we're getting the fall,

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Speaker 1: which is a religion to all of us here every

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Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday. We want to sit down and watch

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Speaker 1: our games. We want to make it easily accessible to

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Speaker 1: watch the games. And there's a dispute going on. We

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Speaker 1: got Montacuse capulists of a situation. I don't want that

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Speaker 1: when it comes to us watching college football in NFL.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I just want to be able to watch

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Speaker 4: Because even if you say, like go over on all

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Speaker 4: the ESPN stuff, sometimes it's kind of hard to get

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Speaker 2: Like sometimes when I'm when I'm ordering like.

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Speaker 4: A pay per view fight for UFC, I get confused on, hey,

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Speaker 4: it seems like it's working. It seems like I also

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Speaker 2: On the ESPN at the times.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you're ESPN, you're leveraged up. You got

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Speaker 4: all the se you got all all this stuff. I

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Speaker 4: don't know what the dispute is with the you know what.

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Speaker 4: They're arguing back and forth on on coming to a

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Speaker 4: settlement on putting them on YouTube TV. But it's just

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Speaker 4: it's big business, big big businesses above us taking taking advantage.

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Speaker 2: Of all of us.

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Speaker 4: We're we're we're all the victim. The customer becomes the

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Speaker 4: victim because eventually, even if they come to an agreement,

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Speaker 4: you know, prices will be bumped up somewhere along the way.

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Speaker 4: Whether it's on YouTube TV, whether it's getting everybody over

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Speaker 4: on ESPN, it's all a game. We're pons on the

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Speaker 1: I will say it. When it comes to the apps,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you one hundred percent. ESPN's a little

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Speaker 1: harder to kind of maneuver and get around. YouTube TV

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Speaker 1: seems like a dumb man's type of streaming service.

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Speaker 2: Very easy.

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Speaker 1: You pop it on, it's right there. You got all

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Speaker 1: the games you want, You can get your multiview set

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Speaker 1: up you want, custom it's very Yeah, it's very user friendly.

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Speaker 5: Are you able to organize your YouTube TV lineup?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Is the best thing money baby, like.

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Speaker 5: The other channels at the bottom.

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Speaker 1: Or if you have if you have the app on

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Speaker 1: as well, when you start to put in, like what

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Speaker 1: like scores and everything going on there as well. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if ESPN does that, Yeah they do that,

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Speaker 1: but just seems like YouTube is easier for me to use.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want it to be easy, like I'll

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Speaker 4: There's little buttons the presses, little buttons of press is

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Speaker 4: possible because because last year, it's like with NFL, when

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Speaker 4: It's like, all right, that's just that's getting confusing to me,

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Speaker 4: Like can we just have a one stop shop to

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Speaker 4: want to simply turn on the TV and watch a

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Speaker 1: Why don't we get all those major corporations just make

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Speaker 5: If what if we make an app?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll make it all the games, yeah, yeahs TV

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Speaker 1: bust and TV think about I'm thinking about I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: feel like we just gotta find a few billion dollars, dude,

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Speaker 4: Feel like that's what they're all trying to do anyway,

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Speaker 4: It's like they're trying to monopolize television. Somebody's gonna somebody's

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Speaker 4: two from now with all the you know, they bought Disney,

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Speaker 2: Somebody's gonna be standing here to come down.

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Speaker 1: To Disney and Netflix.

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Speaker 2: I feel like those are the two Amazon Amazon think so.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean just because of who's behind it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Jeff Bezos.

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Speaker 6: If I bet if I'm betting on CEOs and founders,

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Speaker 6: I'm probably betting on Bezos.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to get into college football?

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Speaker 2: Do we want to? Yeah? Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Just to let people know, we'll break down college football first.

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Speaker 4: Greg greg Olsen, he will be joining here in a

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Speaker 4: little bit. Then we'll be talking about NFL football, a

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Speaker 4: lot of games, a lot of things to break down.

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Speaker 4: a lot, massive, massive weekend of football chaos and suing.

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Speaker 4: And the Huskers were right there, they were right there.

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Speaker 4: They were right there, shout out the boys, hey coming

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Speaker 4: and locking in the foxhile with your boy on the

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Speaker 4: stream all fun stream. We were blacked out, dark mode

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Speaker 4: just got kicked in the gut. Yeah, probably should have

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Speaker 1: Do we want to talk about Tennessee first? Do you

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Speaker 1: want to give the Florida Nebraska? Like really, I'm here

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Speaker 4: It's like, I just the problem is, I don't know

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Speaker 4: a better first half, Like, I'm nervous going to that

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Speaker 4: The blackout needs to be something that happens every year.

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Speaker 4: People are kind of against it, saying no, no all

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Speaker 4: That atmosphere looked like one of the coolest atmospheres ever

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Speaker 4: I was like, I made a mistake not being at

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Speaker 4: the energy, the black balloons. Yeah, the way that the

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Speaker 4: Nebraska social team all week covered it, I think they

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Speaker 4: they gonna wear red? Are they gonna come in black?

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Speaker 4: But just black from top to bottom. Dude, student section

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Speaker 4: the football team came out and matched that intensity and

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Speaker 4: game was started. It's like, hey, seven points are gonna

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Speaker 4: we look fucking good. We were getting gashed in the

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Speaker 4: They kept fighting, and that's what I was excited about.

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Speaker 2: But for a lot of people, like I want to say,

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Speaker 4: Stuff poured on us right away. But watching that game

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Speaker 2: Just not tonight.

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Speaker 4: Just not tonight, because that's where it's it's see said

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Speaker 1: We would have That is not a fair statement at all.

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Speaker 2: Hurt in that game.

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Speaker 1: You guys win that game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we're aligned.

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Speaker 2: But now we've lost three, so now it is you are.

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Speaker 1: Now you are no longer playoff team. But you guys

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's like saying that first half.

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Speaker 4: they're fully out of it. Yeah, just because bowl games,

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Speaker 4: Interesting to see. I'm very excited to see TJ Latif play.

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Speaker 4: There was one play that I dropped in that group

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Speaker 5: Be wide open, wide open, spicy like he's got that's fast.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, nine and three is a live to me. It's

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Speaker 5: You guys play Indiana.

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Speaker 2: No, we have U c l A Penn State and Iowa.

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Speaker 4: Then you play at Penn State, which their roster is

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Speaker 2: You know, he was putting that all on him. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Like people are talking, he could potentially work his way

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Speaker 4: But brutal loss came home, walked in likes everything was off.

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Speaker 4: I say, hey, maybe one day this pain will all

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Speaker 2: One day this pain will all be worth.

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Speaker 4: Because we are we are like it's coming. One thing

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Speaker 2: Sucked that I will say, you gotta go for it

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Speaker 4: We tried for a fifty two yard field go and

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Speaker 2: Latif was in?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Latif was in?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Latifa.

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Speaker 4: What twenty one seventeen? I want to say at that point.

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Speaker 4: It might have been seventeen to fourteen. Yeah, seventeen to fourteen.

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Speaker 1: You understand the logic, right, tied up well, defense is

442
00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,840
Speaker 1: playing well versus you know, an offense that puts up

443
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Speaker 1: forty plus points a game.

444
00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, fourth and one, fourth and two, you're in enemy territory.

445
00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,960
Speaker 4: You're staring at a fifty two yard field goal. We

446
00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,680
Speaker 4: burned two time outs that series, so that killed us.

447
00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,720
Speaker 4: So then you call time out and then go for

448
00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,280
Speaker 4: the field goal. I'm just like, you gotta go for it.

449
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Speaker 1: Yeah, which is interesting to hear you say, because you're

450
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Speaker 1: always a guy that I can. You're always like, hey,

451
00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,240
Speaker 1: take the points, your take the points.

452
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Speaker 2: But again, it was fifty two yards true, fair enough.

453
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Speaker 2: Fourth and one.

454
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Speaker 4: We weren't in like the red zone guy and early

455
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Speaker 4: in the game where it's like get.

456
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Speaker 2: Your points, get your points. Yeah me.

457
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Speaker 4: It's like you have the backup quarterback and you've been

458
00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,080
Speaker 4: kind of inconsistent, shaky with moving the ball offensively throughout

459
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Speaker 4: that point.

460
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Speaker 2: You're now in enemy territory.

461
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Speaker 4: It's fourth and one or fourth and two, like, cook

462
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Speaker 4: something up, yeah, cook something up and keep the drive alive.

463
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Speaker 1: I can't. The thing that bothers me the most about

464
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Speaker 1: everyth you just said was the fact that as soon

465
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Speaker 1: as the game struck zero, as soon as it was over,

466
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Speaker 1: that there's a level of negativity that comes out because

467
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Speaker 1: I was watching that game. But then once I saw

468
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Speaker 1: how like Michigan was playing against Purdue, my panic mode

469
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 1: kind of said it, and I was like, oh, we

470
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Speaker 1: got going over here, And so I kind of like

471
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,400
Speaker 1: wasn't as into the game as I probably should have been.

472
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Speaker 1: But like, everything that I saw was a defense that

473
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Speaker 1: played up to the level against an offense that is

474
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Speaker 1: number one or top three in the entire country, an

475
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Speaker 1: offense that was moving the ball between the twenties. It

476
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Speaker 1: seemed like at ease at points doing the exact game

477
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Speaker 1: plan that we talked about that will make you successful.

478
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Speaker 1: And so it's like, yeah, you guys should have absolutely

479
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 1: won that game. Real estates hell with you in that game?

480
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Speaker 2: Who's the Who's the corner?

481
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Speaker 4: Is it Marshall that I was shouting out the cornerback

482
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Speaker 4: blitz when he picked it off, just to just go

483
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 4: to that.

484
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Speaker 2: But dude, here's another thing I love to see.

485
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Speaker 4: And I can't shout out this secondary enough for showing

486
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,880
Speaker 4: up that game, because that's that's a that's an off.

487
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 4: Some skill positions were I'd seen Andrew Marshall where it

488
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 4: feels like all those boys will be playing on Sunday.

489
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Speaker 1: A lot of Marshall's out there, or Andrew Marshall.

490
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Speaker 4: So we we were sending a couple of cornerback blitzes

491
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Speaker 4: and uh, the Q was doing a great job like us.

492
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,239
Speaker 4: He is very tough in that RPO scheme, and the

493
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 4: minute the corner corner would take off, it's like he's

494
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 4: he's faking the handoff and then going right out to

495
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Speaker 4: the receiver.

496
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Speaker 2: One he baited him.

497
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Speaker 4: Marshall baited him like he was going He went like

498
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Speaker 4: a few yards like once the ball snapped and then

499
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 4: sunk back picked it off and bro I was just sood.

500
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Speaker 2: It was great man.

501
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Speaker 7: Yea California do what California?

502
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know we have I think right right

503
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 4: transferred from USC. But I felt like the skill positions

504
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 4: across the board to offensively just they were like bringing

505
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 4: the fight to USC, which was juicing me up, especially

506
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 4: in that blackout environment.

507
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Speaker 1: Yeah, black it needs to happen more. That looks so awesome.

508
00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 2: They do the.

509
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Speaker 1: Drones, the drone, the whole thing.

510
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 4: This is when we said we needed everybody. They we

511
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 4: threw the kitchen sink at this game. Bro, we through

512
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 4: the kitchen sink at this game. But you know, gotta

513
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 4: beat UCLA.

514
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 1: Gotta beat gotta beat We need everybody.

515
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, gotta get up for this game. Have to get up.

516
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 4: There's no time to bleed. There's no time to bleed.

517
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Speaker 1: Right in the bowl game too. It's I know you said, like, hey,

518
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Speaker 1: bull games are still exciting, Like you guys have to

519
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 1: checked the box a bowl game, and I know this

520
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 1: season is not what you want it to be, but

521
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 1: it's like you go nine and three. The conversation all

522
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 1: offseason is like real Estate's healthy world playoff football team.

523
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,199
Speaker 1: Not only are we playoff, who knows how far we go?

524
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:40,679
Speaker 1: We're a game away.

525
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Speaker 4: And so that is my question is more of like

526
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Speaker 4: I'll be curious what it seems like with the mentality

527
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Speaker 4: of these teams when they are out of the college

528
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 4: football playoffs.

529
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Speaker 2: Yeah, not like they're gonna quit.

530
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna find out the culture of the team if they.

531
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Speaker 4: Can keep inspired football, continue to play inspired football.

532
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Speaker 5: But you got I was just gonna ask how the

533
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 5: Michigan game went because we didn't really watch a ton

534
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Speaker 5: of it. Yeah, dude, I know, I don't want to

535
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Speaker 5: cut you.

536
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 4: Off because we had it was like we had the

537
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Speaker 4: Nebraska game on. I want to say, we had the

538
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 4: World Series game on, and then we had Tennessee, Oklahoma,

539
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 4: and we're kind of keeping up with the Purdue Michigan

540
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 4: game and it seemed.

541
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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it was close like the game. So the

542
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: game for us was never like it never felt like

543
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: Purdue was going to like take the lead. And I

544
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 1: thought that Michigan did a good job of, Hey, coming out,

545
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: you're playing against a secondary that's not very good. Let's

546
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: get some more reps under Bryce's belt of like more

547
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 1: complex passing schemes, throwing the ball a little bit more.

548
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: And it was definitely a game where you sit there

549
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,959
Speaker 1: and go, oh, yeah, he's a freshman and that. And

550
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: the thing that upsets me is like we're now in

551
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: week nine and he's having these kind of we're thrusting

552
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: them into Hey, we need this quarterback to develop from

553
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: a passing standpoint, But we waited till week nine to

554
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: really start having him throw the ball a lot. And

555
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 1: I think our receiving cord did a great job of

556
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: getting open they I thought the offensive scheme was really

557
00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: good for this game as far as play calling go.

558
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 1: But Bryce unfortunately was just missing throws. He had one

559
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: to uh McCaulay number one, who just he just missed.

560
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: He beat his receiver, he had separation on that. There

561
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: was a broken play. He rolled out to the right,

562
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: there was marsh in the back of the end zone.

563
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 1: No one was around him. He decides to check it down,

564
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: gets picked off. We get into the red zone. He

565
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 1: goes to run the ball, scramble to get a first down.

566
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Speaker 1: It's like, all right, this kid, he's using his legs,

567
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: he's realizing he's taking the next step, realizing, okay, I

568
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 1: need to get out of the get out of the

569
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Speaker 1: pocket and move forward. The ball gets hit, out, gets

570
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: hit as he's fallen to the ground, goes into the

571
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Speaker 1: back of the end zone. Touch back for Purdue. So

572
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: it was just one of those games you look at

573
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: it's like you never make an excuse for winning, like, hey,

574
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: we won the game. That's exciting. Our hopes and dreams

575
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: are still alive of making the playoffs. But you're just

576
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: like we piece of me. He's like, man, I wish

577
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: we would have threw him in the fire a little

578
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: bit more against these New Mexicos, against these other smaller

579
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: schools to where we get into these back half of

580
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Speaker 1: these games where we're going if we were going to

581
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: play Ohio State competitively, because Ohio State. I watched the

582
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: entire Penn State Ohio State game like the as complete

583
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 1: of a team as there are there is in college football.

584
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 1: Then I know we wonts and the aliens, Bro after

585
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: the ball's tips, is that what you're talking about? The

586
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: kid you got Jeremi Cardinal tape bro, and they did

587
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: a they did a thing on him before the game

588
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 1: started about his mom getting shot in Chicago, and every

589
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: time he gets a first down or touchdown, he like

590
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: kisses and puts this guy for his mom and how

591
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: his mom was so supportive in his life. Then the

592
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: kid continues to go off versus Penn State like they

593
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: have got a ranking crew out there, and then saying kid,

594
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: I tweeted out, I don't know if this kid's electric

595
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 1: or he just has aliens around him, but he throws it, Bro,

596
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 1: He throws a beautiful football. So I'm watching all this

597
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: and it's like we won last year because Ryan Day's

598
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: ego decided to be like, we're gonna play the same

599
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: game as Michigan and they got punched in the mouth

600
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: like that. They tried to run the ball against us,

601
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: and we just continue to keep it close that way.

602
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 1: I don't I don't see Ryan Day making that same

603
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: mistake again, and we're gonna need some sort of passing

604
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: threat and able to like you know, continues to five

605
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: game win streak. So I just I'm not an apologize

606
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: for winning. I think our defense is elite, especially when

607
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: that Jahn Barsham kid, he's number one. He got hurt

608
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: first series of the game. It's like an upper body injury.

609
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: McCauley comes out with an injury. All of our Titans

610
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: we're on our third string tight end are We're on

611
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: our like third and four string linebackers except for that

612
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: Ernest They get that transfer from Nebraska, who's a dog.

613
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: And so you know, it's the Bible's coming out of

614
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: right at the right time. But we gotta just there's

615
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: gotta be another development of Bryce if we're gonna go

616
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Speaker 1: and you know, compete for a playoff a playoff spot.

617
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Speaker 5: So who's left on the schedule.

618
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: We got Northwestern in uh at Wrigley Field, We've got

619
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Speaker 1: Maryland and then Ohio State at Maryland. Maryland just fired

620
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: their head coach. Yeah crazy, But the game, the game itself,

621
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: like Jordan Marshall, like like Justice Haynes. He he didn't

622
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: play in the game. He ended up getting surgery. He's

623
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: think surgery. Who knows if he's gonna be there for

624
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: their hot State game or not. Marshall wants for one

625
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: eighty five. He has like one hundred and eighty maybe

626
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: one sixty five, one hundred and eighty five all purpose yards.

627
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: Like our run games come alive and it stayed consistent.

628
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: There's been there was a couple of throws. You go, okay, yeah,

629
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: there it is, but just some mister reads here and

630
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: there that are just above me when it comes to

631
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: quarterback development. But you just want to see that next

632
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: step taken these next two games going into because both

633
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 1: these games are very, very winnable. It's just about can

634
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: we show the development on the offensive side of the

635
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: ball so we're not so one dimensional because I think

636
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: we have a championship caliber defense. Our defense is that good.

637
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: It's just about getting this kid to, yeah, you know,

638
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: be who we think he is, and I think he

639
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: is him it was just it was tough to watch

640
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: this game and not walk away being like, damn, there's

641
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: a couple of throws here or there. He's just a

642
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: freshman man, so we'll see.

643
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you guys can get to Ohio State as

644
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 4: a two lost team like that, it's like the crop

645
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 4: of Michigan, Ohio State, but Indiana, Oregon USC.

646
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Washington. Washington's right now, correct, Yeah, they're ranked.

647
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: Washington has to play Oregon still, and Washington always kind

648
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: of does well against Oregon. There's a lot to play

649
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: Washington right now.

650
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 4: No, no, no, Oregon's already played Indiana. Yeah, but they

651
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 4: still got to play Washington. They still gotta play USC.

652
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 4: Like it'll be uh, it'll be fun, it'll be fun.

653
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: This feels like this feels like it's gonna be Ohio

654
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: State in Indiana in the Big Ten Championship and then

655
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: I don't know who wins that game. I think Ohio

656
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: State wins that game. State. Dude, their defense, I think

657
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: they've the first eight games, they've hold every held every

658
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: team under seventeen points. It's just so impressive.

659
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're defenses for real.

660
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: They are They are absolutely for real.

661
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 4: Matt Patricia incredible higher in the season, one knows left

662
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 4: to go to Penn State, which is crazy, and then

663
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 4: you got the SEC now SEC shaken or rattle in

664
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 4: the tree a little bit, Texas handling Vandy.

665
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: And then Vandy having a spark of life coming back again. Yeah,

666
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: but it seemed like a little referee love huh and

667
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: d the two point was crazy, nuts man, dude. And

668
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: hey the on side kick, Bro, they literally almost.

669
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 3: Had it so sick.

670
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 4: I know they cut Yeah, if they would have came

671
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 4: back that game, Bro, it's nuts because arch Manning.

672
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: It's it's like as much as things changed, they stayed

673
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: the same. Like Texas is very much in it and

674
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: can be a team like in the playoffs all year, bro.

675
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: And one thing, but also the offense kind of coming along,

676
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: Like arch Manning's had like close to around what seven

677
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: hundred yards and like six touchdown the last two games. Yeah,

678
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 2: and I mean say, like Vandy.

679
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: Everyone says Vandy is not built to come back, and

680
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: obviously they didn't come back enough to win this game,

681
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: but they made it interesting at the end because they

682
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: were getting blown out earlier, where you see a lot

683
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,479
Speaker 1: of twitter everyone's like, well, this game is over. Vanny's

684
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: not built to come back and diego Pavia. Man, something happened.

685
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: Something's going on with the back end of that defense

686
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: because they just allowed things to happen. It'll be interesting.

687
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting. Everyone's kind of fighting for the life

688
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: of the SEC the ACC did you hey?

689
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 4: But also before we get off the SEC. I I

690
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 4: get having integrity and having some respect. But if you're

691
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 4: up four, dude, and this cover and the spread is

692
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 4: seven and a half, and you just you're on the

693
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 4: one yard line, Georgia Bulldogs, I need you to score.

694
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, goddess, yes, absolutely.

695
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 4: If you're outside the five yard line, I get it.

696
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 4: Take yeah, I get taken any. But you on the

697
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 4: one yard.

698
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 5: Line, score score, take any and then score the next play, right, Yeah,

699
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 5: I don't care, but you gotta score.

700
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,959
Speaker 1: And dude, you have Florida. I mean they played they

701
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: played a good game there. Georgia is just one of

702
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,719
Speaker 1: those teams that no one everyone refuses to look at.

703
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: Everyone's like Georgia is just over there ignoring mc norman.

704
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: They just continue to win games.

705
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: Because they have all these like close games, but they

706
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 2: just they just win. Yeah. I feel like they should

707
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: have beat up on Florida a little bit more than

708
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: what they did.

709
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 3: Florida's got I mean, the the question isn't has never

710
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 3: been Florida's roster. Like they have a very like they're

711
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 3: a really good team. It's just they can't, for whatever reason,

712
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 3: put it together.

713
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

714
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's like take off that uniform and you

715
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 4: put on like the Penn State uniform. Nobody talks about

716
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 4: Penn State like that way. We might acknowledge that they

717
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 4: still have a roster, but nobody's sitting there and being like, hey,

718
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 4: Penn State is still tough. They just haven't put it together.

719
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 4: People just continue to just stomp on them down there.

720
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 4: When you get beat by u c l A.

721
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 5: It's kind of hard to defend Penn State.

722
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean Florida, Florida, Georgia.

723
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 5: Have they played all this like they've gotten beat by teams.

724
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: I mean, us SEF is not that at the time

725
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: they were u c l A.

726
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 4: At the time when they beat Penn State, they were

727
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 4: like undefeated. Well, since they made their coaching.

728
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: Change, I think that I think that was the first

729
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: three game.

730
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: That was the first game the.

731
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 7: Coach.

732
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do we think about Florida?

733
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 4: They I mean l s U. That's a fraudulent LSU team.

734
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 4: When they lost to them twenty to ten, they only

735
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 4: scored ten points.

736
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, the SEC is wild right now.

737
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 4: This is where those conversations start to come in of

738
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 4: the when it starts like and once it gets into

739
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 4: the off season, the big ten SEC.

740
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: I do think the SEC is deeper. But when we're

741
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: when we're getting to a points where it's like, hey,

742
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: Florida is still a great football team, is like, no,

743
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: they're not.

744
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 5: The SEC deep there in Auburn, l s U and

745
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 5: Florida fired their head coaches.

746
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 4: I know, bro, all these that are open now. Hey, Jack,

747
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 4: what's the deal with Hypel coming up?

748
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's crazy.

749
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: People say, yeah, people having the conversation about Hype not

750
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: being the guy. That's insane to me.

751
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 8: That's just that's just classic Tennessee Twitter rhetoric. Just just

752
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 8: fans that are frustrated and upset. After that could go

753
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 8: down as one of his worst losses as his tenure.

754
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 8: Obviously he went to Oklahoma. That was a big prove

755
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 8: a game in Nyland. Night Mode supposed to shut down

756
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 8: my tear. He's running everywhere everywhere, the cells, around every corner,

757
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 8: we can so many just small mistakes. They were giving

758
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 8: them opportunities to score. We could have gone up fourteen

759
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 8: to Ohero real quick in the first quarter. Have that fumble,

760
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 8: their guy tears a hammy, still puts eighty yards on

761
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 8: the field, gets to the end zone.

762
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: It was just that.

763
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 8: Max Gilbert misses a huge kick for us.

764
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 7: Their kicker was on fire.

765
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 8: It's it's brutal, yeah, to have away team come in.

766
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure what was this said. I think it

767
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 8: was Oklahoma's first away SEC win in s and since

768
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 8: they've joined the SEC, which you don't want to be

769
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 8: the fence team to give up the loss.

770
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: And the first time that they've scored over a certain

771
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: amount of points. Yeah, I think it was seventeen.

772
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, brutal, brutal, and like it felt like we were

773
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 8: in it the whole time until it just we weren't.

774
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 8: I mean, I don't even want to talk about Matt

775
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 8: Malone and what he did at the stream. So Chef, obviously,

776
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 8: Chef being the cycle of that he is, Chef was like,

777
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 8: I'm going to listen to the rest of the game

778
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 8: on the radio. I think there was maybe two and

779
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 8: a half minutes left.

780
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 4: He will Also, remember Tennessee scoring chef was out of

781
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 4: the stream room, so everybody's like, you have to stay

782
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 4: out there.

783
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, But essentially Matt Malone has the remote and decides

784
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 8: to turn off the Tennessee game when there's probably a

785
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 8: minute and forty eight seconds left. Yeah, I'm trying to

786
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 8: be nice with that. And I'm like, I'm frustrated. On

787
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 8: my phone, I'm diving through Twitter seeing what what's going on.

788
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 8: And then I look up because Nebraskas has ended and

789
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 8: the World Series is going on, they put it on

790
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 8: the main TV and I'm like, where the fuck is

791
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 8: the Tennessee game? And mag was I turned that ship off?

792
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: Man, we're done? And I go I'm like, Jack's like,

793
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 2: it's not over, and I pulled up. I pulled out

794
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: my phone.

795
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, they just kicked a field goal down

796
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 4: six with over a minute left.

797
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 8: Like Matt Malone in the last few weeks has been

798
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 8: inching forwards to being like a bona fide Tennessee fan again,

799
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 8: and in that one moment he stripped everything, And honestly,

800
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 8: it could be a thing where I won't ever take

801
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 8: his fandom seriously for the remainder of life.

802
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 7: It will take a lot.

803
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 8: I gotta see what he's built for, especially in these

804
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 8: last three games that we have.

805
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 6: I don't know.

806
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 8: It was brutal the atmosphere, you know, and Nyland looked

807
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 8: all time, just like you were saying about Nebraska. I

808
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 8: thought the stream was so much fun. All the boys there,

809
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 8: two blackout teams just getting their dick kicked intogether. Yeah,

810
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 8: and you know, the the hopes of a playoff berth

811
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 8: are are now over. And you know the only thing

812
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 8: I can look forward to is that the Titans and

813
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 8: the Balls are both on the bye week this week.

814
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: So big week for jaff, big weekend.

815
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 6: God, I will be out of the state.

816
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, the energy was good.

817
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 4: The energy was fun all stream. Yeah, because Nebraska started

818
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 4: first and oh my god, Broy start off three and out.

819
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 4: JP started off three and out and then a fourteen

820
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 4: play drive touchdown and we're just juice Bro take the

821
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 4: fight to him. Oh yeah, Garritt ends up coming in.

822
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: He's got to pull down.

823
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 8: Even Scarlett made it on stream from Yeah, it was

824
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 8: being awesome. Just we're screaming and she's just a sleeve,

825
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 8: just ship.

826
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: Dog.

827
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: Sounds like it was a lot of fun.

828
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: I was till it wasn't.

829
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: I was in hell Saturday the foot, Yeah, bro, people

830
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: pop aren't rest by Deylan Royola walking off the field,

831
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: throw throwing wristbands. People didn't see me Friday night with

832
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: my kids, full gout walking around and I'm in so

833
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: much pain after that, dude, it was it was. I

834
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: was in pain walking down on the way back, it

835
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: was like inches. I could barely walk up. I literally

836
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: thought about crawling at some point. And we get to Saturday.

837
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 1: I'll wake up in the morning, go to through my piss.

838
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: I put my foot on the ground, dude, and I'm

839
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: like even my heel, like my foot is so swollen.

840
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: I had to get crutches from downstairs. And I was

841
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: crutching around the house elevated foot all day long, looking

842
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: at the streamerund six o'clock like kind of jealous, like, man,

843
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: I kind of want to go to that, but I

844
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: couldn't move. I could not move. It was so horrendous.

845
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,959
Speaker 7: What does it feel like, dude?

846
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: So gout is it's like a uric acid build up

847
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 1: in your bloodstream, and so when you have like sugar,

848
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: red meat, something else, like there's a uric acid build

849
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: up and it all goes down to like your lower

850
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: shimmer stood happened your hands or in your feet, and

851
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: it crystallizes in your joints, Like there's like little sharp

852
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: crystals in your foot that are like scraping, like essentially

853
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: irritating the joint. It feels like it like needles and it. Dude,

854
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: it was the worst pain ever I had. Nathan, my lawyer,

855
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: was in town with all his kids Saturday. I'm like,

856
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: you guys have fun.

857
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 2: Man.

858
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: I'm like in the man cave foot elevated. Anytime I

859
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: moved or anything. One kid came by and like accidentally

860
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: hit my foot almost cried like it was bro I

861
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: was in hell. I was in hell all weekend. Like

862
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: Bailey was able to walk today.

863
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 9: It's all King's diase.

864
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,479
Speaker 1: King's disease, I know, dude. We were twenty twenty two

865
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: or yeah. We were playing the Jacksonville Jaguars and I

866
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: like Wednesday night we went had like olne dinner. Thursday,

867
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: wake up. I'm in so much pain and I'm like, hey,

868
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 1: I think I have turf toil like jam my toe.

869
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: And the Trader's like, hey, we think this is galt.

870
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: I get tested. The York acid isn't that high. But

871
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 1: that's when Rable comes up. He goes, got the King's disease? Huh,

872
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: And that's when I first learned about King's disease.

873
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 5: But dude, thinking about you hobbling around dressed as Dobby.

874
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 2: Bro I was hurting so bad I couldn't tell the time.

875
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 2: I thank you. Well, we'll cover it on Uhi.

876
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: We need to talk about football right now. Yeah, buddy,

877
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: I'm telling you I was in true hell, true hell

878
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: all weekend.

879
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, not about me.

880
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 1: It's about the kids though. Speaking of kids, Greg Olson,

881
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: just give Greg Wilson around.

882
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 2: The plaus Greg loves the kids.

883
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:25,959
Speaker 1: How are we feeling, dude?

884
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 7: Doing good? Man, doing good?

885
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: How are you guys living the dream one day at

886
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: a time. I don't know if you heard about my

887
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: gout spell, but it's been a tough week.

888
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 7: I just heard you talking about it right now. How'd

889
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 7: you get gout?

890
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: Dude?

891
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I truly have no idea, but

892
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: I got for the first time in twenty two have

893
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: had like three or four episodes, but this one started

894
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:44,959
Speaker 1: Thursday morning.

895
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 2: When we're in New York and say we're flying back,

896
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 2: you're starting to feel at.

897
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, like as like the show's going on on, Get up.

898
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: I'm I'm all right now, Like I'm I'm doubtful for

899
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: any game, but like I can't push off my foot,

900
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: but I can walk around. I was on crutches yesterday

901
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: and the day before. That's how bad it was. So

902
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm a survivor.

903
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 10: Greg, Well, well, yeah, you're I mean, I have a

904
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 10: feeling if it was game day you'd figure it out.

905
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no doubt.

906
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

907
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 7: I've never seen a guy on the injury report gout.

908
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like you just can't.

909
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 7: You just have to just refuse to let that even

910
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 7: be real.

911
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: I will say when I did have GOT twenty twenty two,

912
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: we played Jacksonville. I ended up playing that entire game,

913
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: didn't miss a snap.

914
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 7: First, because that's what we do.

915
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 2: That's what we do. We play. Baby.

916
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 4: Hey Greg, I don't know if you know it, but

917
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 4: your squad, your team over there, you think sent me

918
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 4: a North County Raider, some North County Raider merchandise?

919
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 6: Was my height?

920
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 7: Aren't you wearing it?

921
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's a great question. Now I saw

922
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: you pop on.

923
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 4: How'd you like it? I love it? I loved it.

924
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 4: I like hey Greg, Greg and his team. They sent

925
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 4: you this opened it up. I saw the Blue and

926
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 4: Gold and see Raiders and it it juiced me up.

927
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 7: Man to bring back a lot of good memories.

928
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, Ani's.

929
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 7: Rock in the locker room before and after the game,

930
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 7: just getting after it.

931
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: Yeah oh yeah.

932
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 4: And then the Who's nuts, Like before kickoff, our our stands,

933
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 4: the bleachers, they'd just be stomping and be.

934
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 6: Like, who's nuts, Who's nuts?

935
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 2: Who's nuts?

936
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 4: As the ball's getting kicked off and you go, and

937
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 4: you know, obviously you're trying to deliver the biggest in

938
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 4: of your life and to earn the hitman's shirt for

939
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 4: the next week.

940
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 2: So a lot of memories, a lot of memories.

941
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, club pulled up on me. He hit me in

942
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: a box. He goes, hey, this was sent to you

943
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: and it was a chaparale seventy seven from your company

944
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: as well, like nostalgia out the gate Man.

945
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 10: It's it's awesome to be able to get to be

946
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 10: able to get cool gear for your school, your travel

947
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 10: ball premium. It's I'm telling you, man, it's the only

948
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 10: place to People think we're crazy. People think we just

949
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 10: make sideline videos yelling at kids. But uh, there's a

950
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 10: bigger play in all this that I think is super cool.

951
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got the deonse And as we coming before

952
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: we get into football, I noticed you a little sunburn

953
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,280
Speaker 1: going on. We yelled, wh where were you this weekend?

954
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: No?

955
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 10: You know what, I don't know why. Here here's my

956
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 10: only two thoughts. You're ready because it's funny. I just

957
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 10: I logged on and I was like, God, my face

958
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 10: looks red. Two possible scenarios, A little bit of a reflection. Yesterday,

959
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 10: it was a windy. It was overcast, but you know

960
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 10: how you get like a windy it was it's an

961
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 10: open booth in Green Bay, very windy, heavy cloud cover.

962
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 10: So not sunburn, but uh, maybe like wind in my face,

963
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 10: hair all over the place, maybe a little wind. I

964
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 10: also went went to the club this morning, did a

965
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 10: little like executive workout, did a little little sauna, little shower,

966
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 10: you know, just a little like freshen up on a Monday.

967
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 10: So maybe it's just to just to kind of the

968
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 10: residuals of just getting the body temperature up. I'm not

969
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 10: exactly sure why my face is red.

970
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 4: Bro, what is uh what's happening in Green Bay? You

971
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 4: called that game yesterday? Tough loss to the Panthers. You

972
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 4: even had a even had something up top where they're

973
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 4: talking about the coin flip where they're kicking the ball,

974
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 4: how it could end where they could be utilizing the

975
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 4: win in the end for a game winning kick.

976
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 2: It comes back around.

977
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 4: I see you going back and forth with somebody on

978
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 4: Twitter just being like, I what like you were on

979
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 4: top of that strategy and how much strategy does Just

980
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 4: listen to the broadcast they'd learn a lot. Yeah, I agree,

981
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 4: but talk to us about uh, talk to us about

982
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 4: covering that game yesterday in Green Bay is a loss

983
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 4: of the Panthers.

984
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 10: Man, Jesus, Yeah, I didn't see it coming. I'll be honest.

985
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 10: You know, I go neutral when I call Panther games.

986
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 10: You know, some Panther fans think I hate them. Some

987
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 10: The other team always thinks I'm a homer, which is fine.

988
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 10: I try to just call it like it is. I thought,

989
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 10: coming off that home loss, they looked bad against Buffalo,

990
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 10: banged up offensive line. They were getting Bryce back. I

991
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 10: thought the best thing they did was get Rico back.

992
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 10: You know, Rico dawdle instead of splitting carries with Chew.

993
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 10: But they just went right back to Rico getting all

994
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 10: the carries. I thought that was a great move by Canalis.

995
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 10: He's just needed to happen and listen the exact way the.

996
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 7: Game needed to be played.

997
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 10: If you're Carolina, muddy it up, take them into the mud,

998
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 10: slow it down, limited possessions, make them go the long way.

999
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 10: I mean, all the things that we set up at

1000
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 10: the top of the broadcast. It's very funny that it

1001
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 10: works out exactly how Canalis would dream it up, which is,

1002
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 10: you know, most teams get about ten or eleven possessions

1003
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 10: in a game. Green Bay had three in the first half,

1004
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 10: eight total. That's a win for them. They were over

1005
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 10: in the red zone. They settled for two field goals,

1006
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 10: they missed the field goal, and they turned the ball

1007
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 10: over twice like that was the formula for only giving

1008
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 10: up thirteen points. If you were Carolina, I thought green

1009
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 10: Bay tried to play the game Carolina's style. You know,

1010
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 10: Carolina wanted to run it a thousand times. I think

1011
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 10: they just threw for over one hundred yards, but that's

1012
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 10: what they wanted to do, and then I think green

1013
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 10: Bay came in. Jordan loves playing as good a ball

1014
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 10: as anybody in the league. I think they're a better

1015
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 10: pass protecting group than they are a run blocking group

1016
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 10: up front. I think they're run games. Okay, they're not Overlea,

1017
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 10: but their pass game is I don't know how much

1018
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 10: the wind, I don't know how much the weather kind

1019
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 10: of got to the floor and just didn't trust pushing

1020
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 10: the ball. But they had their best success in the

1021
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 10: quick game pass and I think every time you ran

1022
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 10: the ball, every time you went first down run, you

1023
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 10: played exactly the way Carolina wanted that game to be played.

1024
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 10: And when it all came down to it, Bryce took

1025
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 10: him down on a nice, you know, end of game

1026
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 10: kind of minute third. It was just under the two

1027
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 10: minute warning and forty nine yard field goal into the wind,

1028
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 10: which we sat at the top of the broadcast. You know,

1029
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 10: why win the toss and take the ball if you're

1030
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 10: the Panther as well, twofold A, you want to keep

1031
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 10: Green Bay's offense on the side. We just covered that.

1032
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 10: But b by taking the ball when you win the

1033
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 10: toss in the first half, you get your choice of

1034
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 10: direction to start the third quarter, and they chose to

1035
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 10: get the wind for that exact same situation. Kicking going

1036
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 10: the other way was a disaster. They missed an extra point,

1037
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 10: green Bay missed the field goal, and then obviously going

1038
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 10: the other way which they ended the game, was the

1039
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 10: way they wanted to kick. So great decision. First decision

1040
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 10: was a great one, and the game cooperated.

1041
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 4: If you're a Panther fan, yes yesterday, Lions lose, Packers lose.

1042
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 4: Rams look incredible, Seattle looks incredible. Eagles on a bye week.

1043
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 4: You got a lot of these teams two and three

1044
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 4: losses before the weekend started. I would have I'm sure

1045
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 4: all of us would have assumed, it's like Lions. Lions

1046
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 4: look really good, Packers look really good. Dark horses were

1047
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 4: kind of the NFC West. Who would you have coming

1048
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 4: out of the NFC today to go to the Super Bowl?

1049
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, twenty four hours ago, green Bay, you know, green Bay, Detroit, Philly,

1050
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 10: you know, kind of the usual suspects there after yesterday.

1051
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 7: I think Seattle. I think Seattle's really good.

1052
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 10: I think Sam Donald has carried over the Minnesota Sam

1053
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 10: Donald orre he won fourteen and has picked up where

1054
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 10: he left off him in Kubiak. I think the way

1055
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 10: the offense has been built around him, big personnel, you know,

1056
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 10: it's a passing offense, and people continue to say that

1057
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 10: it's a run offense, which is another one on my Twitter,

1058
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 10: like drives me insane when people just say things that

1059
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 10: aren't true. It irritates me. So yeh see, I was

1060
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 10: shocked at I'm a little shocked at Detroit lost. To

1061
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 10: be honest, I thought Minnesota was reeling a little bit.

1062
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 10: I thought Minnesota the first couple weeks was a lot

1063
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 10: better than they were the last few games. I know

1064
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 10: there was controversy about you know, getting McCarthy back, and

1065
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 10: you know, Wentz playing banged up and why they didn't

1066
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 10: just turn back to JJ earlier.

1067
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 7: But they really answered the bell Minnesota, so you got

1068
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 7: to feel good for them.

1069
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 10: But yeah, I still think when the dust settles, Philadelphia

1070
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 10: I still think, you know, is the team until someone

1071
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 10: proves otherwise. I think Detroit's in the mix. I still

1072
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 10: think Green Bay, when everything settles down, is going to

1073
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 10: be in the mix. I still think they're very good

1074
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 10: on both sides of the ball. Detroit Seattle, we said,

1075
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 10: San Francisco's kind of sneaky.

1076
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 2: You know.

1077
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 10: It's just so hard to think that they're going to

1078
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 10: continue to weather the guys that they're missing for long

1079
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 10: periods of time, yet all they do is figure out

1080
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 10: how to win. I think Shannahan. Shanahan's awesome. You know,

1081
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 10: obviously McCaffrey and Kittle, those guys are incredible. Can they

1082
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 10: weather some of the defensive losses of Fred Warner? Can

1083
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 10: they make the playoffs?

1084
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 7: Yes?

1085
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 10: Can they win the Super Bowl? I guess anything's possible.

1086
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 10: I think it'd be tough, But yeah, I think I

1087
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 10: think for the first time in a long time, I

1088
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 10: think the NFC is actually a deeper conference right now

1089
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Speaker 10: than the AFC.

1090
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: And you didn't mention the Rams.

1091
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 10: Yeahs, that's gonna be San Francisco's challenge. The way it

1092
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 10: looks right now, they're gonna have to get in as

1093
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 10: a wild card, as a They're gonna have to get

1094
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 10: free from the West in because barring a huge fall,

1095
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 10: you know, disaster, it looks like, you know, Seattle and

1096
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 10: l A look like they're in the running to win it,

1097
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 10: and then San Francisco obviously try to sneak that second

1098
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 10: wild sport wild card spot. But yeah, I mean, NFC

1099
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 10: West might be the best division in football, I mean North, Yeah,

1100
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 10: I mean there, I think the NFC, for the first

1101
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 10: time in the last couple of years is a deeper

1102
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 10: stable of teams that you could make an argument for

1103
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 10: competing when the last couple of years you kind of

1104
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 10: felt like it was the AFC had more options to

1105
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 10: represent them in the Super Bowl between Baltimore, you know, Buffalo,

1106
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 10: Kansas City of course, and then you had like, how

1107
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 10: good are the Denver Bronco is going to be? How

1108
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 10: good are the Charger is going to be? I kind

1109
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 10: of feel like the tide has shifted a little bit

1110
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 10: to the death of the NFC. Yeah, Tapa, I think

1111
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 10: they just went really well. They've lost it seems like

1112
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 10: they've lost every player on their team and.

1113
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: They just continue to Baker Mayfield it out, dude, Yeah,

1114
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 1: they had figured out anyway. AFC is super interesting because

1115
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 1: obviously we had the Bills in the Chiefs game, which

1116
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: I'd love to get your thoughts on that. But the

1117
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: Ravens there, they make a they're making a run that

1118
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:49,919
Speaker 1: we kind of all expected them to do after there

1119
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: by week then you got the Broncos, who are seven

1120
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Speaker 1: and two just beat the Houston Texans in a defensive battle.

1121
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: So one can be said for both sides is like

1122
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: there are there's a five or six competitive teams on

1123
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: both sides. You can go, yeah, I can. I can

1124
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: basically see any of these teams making it to the

1125
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: super Bowl on either side. But do were you able

1126
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: to watch that Bills Chiefs game?

1127
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 6: It all?

1128
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Speaker 7: I wasn't. I was flying back.

1129
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 10: I followed some of the game cast and on the

1130
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 10: plane I saw some of the highlights. From what I've

1131
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 10: kind of gathered, the score actually wasn't even really indicative

1132
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 10: of how the game. Oh yeah, I don't know if

1133
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 10: you guys would agree with that. That's kind of the

1134
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 10: gist that I'm getting from the follow up.

1135
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Speaker 1: If there was, if there was a different team playing

1136
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: the Bills, when you're watching that game, you would think

1137
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: it's over. The only thing that kept your, like your

1138
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: heart in it was knowing that Patrick Mahomes is on

1139
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: the other side and truly anything can happen. They had

1140
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: a two minute at the end. I think they had

1141
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: like forty five seconds and then three plays die m up,

1142
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: get all the way down the field.

1143
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: Well either way, still a setup of Mahomes Allen Bill's

1144
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 2: Chiefs rivalry game to where they're up seven and Mahomes

1145
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 2: has the ball with about six minutes left. Yeah, and

1146
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 2: then he ends up throwing a pick around the four

1147
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: minute mark, in between four and five minutes. But it

1148
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 2: was it was a juicy game there at the end,

1149
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 2: but it did it felt like the Bills. Uh.

1150
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 4: The whole theme of this episode for me has been

1151
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 4: taking the fight to him. But it does feel like

1152
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 4: the Bills kind of took the fight to the shut

1153
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 4: it out in Bill's Mafia Land.

1154
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 1: Right, because the Chiefs defense does such a great job

1155
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: against The Chiefs defense in general just are very very good.

1156
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: But Bills what they do. They lined up under center,

1157
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: they ran the ball and every ran, every run they had,

1158
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: they set up a play action off of that run

1159
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: that was successful. So they had the Chiefs defense get.

1160
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 4: Some rap leads, some rap leads. Gash and the Greg

1161
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 4: You'd love it, you love that film.

1162
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: Greg's not big in the run game.

1163
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 2: You heard the way.

1164
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 6: The run game.

1165
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: He thinks the numbers of the run game are ridiculous.

1166
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 7: Let's talk about the run game.

1167
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 10: I've been looking forward to getting on with you guys

1168
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 10: because Will teased me last week, you know, not teased me,

1169
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 10: but like tease that we were going to talk about

1170
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 10: some of these bigger concepts the run game is super valuable.

1171
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,439
Speaker 10: I just hate hearing people talk up how the run

1172
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 10: game is what sets the tone and sets the stage

1173
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 10: for everything else.

1174
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 7: That we do.

1175
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 10: The run game is a great way to win games

1176
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 10: once you have the lead.

1177
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 7: The run game.

1178
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 10: Now, are you last year's playoff Philadelphia Eagles where you're

1179
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 10: running for seventy five yard touchdowns. That's a different run game. Yeah,

1180
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 10: that is more like an explosive passing game. Where now

1181
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 10: you're starting to get into the elements of what makes

1182
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 10: the pass more effective than the run is to generate

1183
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 10: more yards per play, generate more explosive plays. That's why

1184
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 10: the pendulum supports passing the ball. Now, if you can

1185
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 10: run the ball for thirty yards, forty yard fifty yard touchdowns,

1186
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 10: by all means you should run the ball on every

1187
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 10: single play of the game. So that's a key that's

1188
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 10: a key point to make. But the biggest advantage of

1189
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 10: a run game is third and short, fourth and short,

1190
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 10: goal to go, end of game, run the clockout with

1191
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 10: the lead. That's where a really good run game can

1192
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:53,720
Speaker 10: alter effectiveness.

1193
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 7: If you want to score points.

1194
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 10: Across the board consistently over an entire season in the

1195
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 10: regular season, if you want to score points. The correlation

1196
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 10: between passing the ball and scoring points is non debatable.

1197
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: What do you go?

1198
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: I hate it?

1199
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 2: I think I said, I agree with you.

1200
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: That obviously passing the ball is going to correlate to

1201
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: more points. However, if you're a team like the Buffalo

1202
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: Bills and you have Josh Allen, who the last couple

1203
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: of weeks has been like a little iffy and his

1204
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 1: pass game, they haven't been consistent of marrying the run

1205
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: to the past. To me, as an offensive lineman, a

1206
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: guy that wants to see a lot of balance, because

1207
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: I think balance plays a lot really well, especially when

1208
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: you get into November and December. When you run the

1209
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: football effectively and you have play action passes off of it,

1210
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: it is way better for longevity of scoring consistency consistently.

1211
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: And I don't know numbers, you're you're probably pulling something up.

1212
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you can win first down right

1213
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: by running the ball by four more yards. He starts

1214
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: looking over and he says he isn't like shit, he's

1215
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: gonna pick up numbers on my ass.

1216
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 7: No, I'm just if you can do that, go ahead, If.

1217
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: You can run, if you can run outside zone to

1218
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: the left right and you run that play effectively. Then

1219
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: if you're doing that, now all of a sudden you

1220
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: have linebackers flowing to the left side and you're pulling,

1221
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: you're pulling the ball, you have a bootleg. There's so

1222
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: much more open on the right side of the ball

1223
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: and the right the right side of the line of scrimmage.

1224
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: So I just think when you're able to run effectively,

1225
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: it opens up so much more in the past game,

1226
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: which gets you down the field. And then if you

1227
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: run the ball effectively, then the third and short, fourth

1228
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: and ones goal to goes, goal to goes, that is

1229
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 1: going to open itself up as well.

1230
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 4: If if you have if you could run outside zone

1231
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 4: on the left and you have Taylor on and Roger Staffold,

1232
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 4: and you have Derek Hennery in the backfield, y Ryan

1233
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 4: Tannel under center and A. J. Brown on the outside,

1234
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 4: and you can success.

1235
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: No no, no, I'm not okay, you run the ball

1236
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,439
Speaker 1: to the right whatever. I'm just saying. If you're able

1237
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: to run run plays that you can set up play

1238
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: action off of to get your shots, especially when hit

1239
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: the middle of the field, that is a recipe for success,

1240
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: especially when you're under center. Quarterback puts us back to

1241
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: the defense or the defense and now has the second

1242
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: guest over and over again. If they're going to cover two,

1243
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: those linebackers are gonna start cheating up a little bit.

1244
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: It leads a lot more holes in the middle of

1245
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 1: that defense. That's the kind of offense I love as

1246
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: as opposed to just passed first always.

1247
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 10: Oh, I'm not saying I don't listen. You're not going

1248
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 10: to find a bigger supporter of under center, heavy personnel

1249
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 10: twelve thirteen under center play action, turn your back to

1250
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 10: the defense pass game than me.

1251
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 7: I think.

1252
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 10: And again we're not talking about Washington, but I think

1253
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 10: what Washington And I hate seeing je Daniels not hurt.

1254
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 7: But that was an awful scene. But just because we watched.

1255
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 10: Them play last night, playing in the shotgun pass it

1256
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 10: doesn't work. It is virtually an impossible strategy. You're seeing

1257
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 10: Jalen Hurts now get more under center. You're seeing Josha

1258
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 10: Allen get more under center. You're seeing Patrick Mahomes. Guys

1259
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 10: that have played almost exclusively from the gun for the

1260
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 10: bulk of their careers are now getting under center, turning

1261
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 10: their back because we all know action is the most

1262
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 10: efficient and effective pass play, especially on first and second down.

1263
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 10: I'm not disputing any of that. But let's take Seattle

1264
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 10: last night. Okay, they are playing in twelve and thirteen.

1265
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 10: They run the fewest amount of eleven personnel, so they

1266
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 10: have three receivers on the field and one of the lowest,

1267
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 10: if not the lowest rate in the entire league. Okay,

1268
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 10: so the assumption is that, okay, people are so scared

1269
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 10: of their run game, they're playing heavy boxes, which they are.

1270
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 10: They're playing big base people, which makes sense when you

1271
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:34,959
Speaker 10: bring out two to three tight ends.

1272
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 7: And what does Seattle do to you? They throw the ball.

1273
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,240
Speaker 10: He's fourteen for fourteen, for fourteen, fifteen for fifteen, whatever,

1274
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 10: he is for two eighty and four touchdowns at halftime.

1275
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 10: Do you know how many yards per carry for the

1276
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,240
Speaker 10: season the Seattle Seahawks.

1277
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 7: Average on the ground? Tell me five three point eight yards.

1278
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: A carriage is not great?

1279
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 7: I ask why? Now, Listen.

1280
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 10: My point is what they're doing is exactly if I

1281
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 10: was a coordinator what I would do. The question I

1282
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 10: have has nothing do with Seattle. I give them all

1283
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 10: the credit in the world. My question is why do

1284
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 10: these defensive coordinators and why do these media types, and

1285
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 10: why do these people at the podium continue it up

1286
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 10: there and beat the table about how important it is

1287
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 10: to stop the run. Why would you walk into a

1288
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 10: stadium when Sam Darnald has the second most efficient passing

1289
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 10: game in the league. Why would you walk into the

1290
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 10: stadium and say, you know what we need to do.

1291
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 10: We need to stop the twenty fifth ranked run game

1292
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 10: in football. We need to make sure they don't get

1293
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 10: out on us. And instead you let Sam Darnald throw

1294
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 10: for two fifty plus and four touchdowns at halftime. It

1295
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 10: doesn't make sense if at the end of the game

1296
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 10: you run the ball twenty five times for one hundred

1297
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 10: and sixty yards, unless one hundred and fifty of them

1298
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 10: we're in the second half.

1299
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 7: Because you're up by two scores, you probably lost.

1300
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: That's fair, that's a point.

1301
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 10: It just it doesn't what people are saying and the

1302
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 10: talking points that get just spewed over and over and over.

1303
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 10: It's just not true no matter how often people say it,

1304
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 10: it's not true. Now, Buffalo, they ran for two forty

1305
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 10: on the Panthers last week, or you know, two weeks

1306
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 10: ago and Josh Allen didn't have to throw the ball. Yeah,

1307
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 10: because they averaged he had seventeen carries for two hundred

1308
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 10: and fifteen yards.

1309
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 7: Of course, you should.

1310
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 10: Keep handing the ball to James Cook, but that's not

1311
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 10: being an efficient run game. At three and a half

1312
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 10: four yards of carry and people are going, oh my god,

1313
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 10: we can't let him go down our throat. Do you

1314
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 10: think that either team yesterday in the Green Bay Carolina

1315
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 10: game cared how much both teams wanted to run the

1316
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 10: ball at each other and the final score was sixteen thirteen.

1317
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, that's you just.

1318
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 10: Can't score any points unless you're gonna score fifty yard

1319
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 10: rushing touchdowns if you do hand it to Saquon every play.

1320
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 10: And I'll be the biggest cheerleader out there, but that's

1321
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 10: not the reality of the league.

1322
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 7: Like most teams don't.

1323
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 10: I don't have Derrick Henry and Saquon and guys that

1324
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 10: are gonna take fifty yard touchdowns weekend and week out.

1325
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 10: It's just not the way the league works. And that's

1326
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 10: just the way the modern game is being played.

1327
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 7: This last thing, I'll.

1328
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 10: Say, rushing attempts are not up across the league because

1329
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 10: offenses have come to the realization that you know, it's

1330
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 10: in my best interest to score more points, I should

1331
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 10: run the ball more. It's because defensive coordinators, by and large,

1332
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 10: especially the really good teams, are saying, you know what,

1333
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 10: I'm gonna play too high shell. I'm gonna play nickel

1334
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 10: to base. I'm gonna play light boxes. Run at me

1335
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 10: forty times. Great, you're gonna have less possessions. I'm gonna

1336
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 10: fight my ass off to get a turnover or two

1337
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 10: and a kick a field goal or two in the

1338
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 10: red zone. And at the end of the game, you

1339
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 10: might score twenty points. And if I have a halfway

1340
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 10: decent offense, I'm gonna score more than twenty and we're

1341
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 10: gonna win.

1342
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love this conversation.

1343
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm honestly, I feel like I'm running

1344
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 4: a lot listening to you two go back and forth

1345
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 4: about the run game, the one that the conversation I

1346
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 4: was wanting to bring up last that I said we

1347
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 4: could talk about this week. It's just kind of how

1348
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 4: teams are getting back to that twelve thirteen personnel look,

1349
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 4: just the way the tight end has developed over the

1350
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 4: last decade. I feel like, because again you said it,

1351
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 4: the top these top tier quarterbacks, they've spent most of

1352
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 4: their career in gun and now you see teams getting

1353
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 4: back to under center, and I'm just I'm wanting to

1354
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 4: know your thoughts because I was kind of feeling it

1355
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 4: when I was a backer who would play mostly in

1356
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 4: base personnel, when I was in a backup role or

1357
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 4: even as a starter, and you go to third down

1358
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 4: and I might come off the field, or if you

1359
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 4: had a team that would that would be in twelve personnel.

1360
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 4: But it's because they're doing more predominant eleven looks. So

1361
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 4: you're like, hey, we're gonna play nickel to this. So

1362
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 4: you're kind of deciding as a coordinator do you want

1363
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 4: to run do we want to put a nickel package

1364
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 4: in there against base? And now it's to me you

1365
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 4: almost you're at times you could make a mistake putting

1366
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 4: in nickel bodies in base packages because against these teams

1367
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 4: like Seattle, who can have twelve thirteen personnel and give

1368
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 4: you traditional twelve and thirteen personnel looks, then you can

1369
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 4: kind of look to hey, we might be running the

1370
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 4: ball more this game because they are staying in nickel packages.

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01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 4: I think it's fascinating how it's developed. Again back to

1372
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 4: getting I'll say getting under after listening to your guys' conversation,

1373
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 4: I would beforehand, I would have said getting back to

1374
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 4: run game type personnel, but getting the more under center

1375
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 4: personnel because there was a shift over the last decade

1376
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 4: of hey, we need to put our smaller bodies because

1377
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 4: even though they're in twelve personnel, they're predominantly lining up

1378
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 4: in eleven looks. I know that makes sense to you,

1379
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 4: but for people out there listening or watching this, eleven

1380
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 4: personnel is where you're having three receiver looks. Teams would

1381
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 4: take twelve personnel, so two tight ends, one running back

1382
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 4: and they would make a tight end, be more of

1383
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 4: a receiving tight end and flank him out or cut

1384
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 4: him away from the line of scrimmage to where now

1385
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 4: it's you're having to make a decision to are we

1386
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 4: going to be in more base packages versus these twelve

1387
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 4: thirteen personnel looks. And I'm just kind of curious of

1388
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 4: what you've seen over the last decade of this shift

1389
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,439
Speaker 4: coming back to under center run game and how again

1390
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 4: it's like coordinators are it's like, are we gonna stop

1391
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 4: the run? You're a little bit more vanilla when you're

1392
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 4: in base packages because you've spent most of the last

1393
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 4: decade or so fifteen years building out a lot more

1394
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 4: complex nickel dime packages to where it's like, Hey, now

1395
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 4: we're gonna make the call. Are we going to play

1396
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 4: bass to this twelve thirteen personnel team, because a lot

1397
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 4: of these twelve thirteen personnel teams, like Seattle is having

1398
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 4: a lot of success just being under center now and

1399
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 4: looking more old school.

1400
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 10: Yeah so, and I can give you again when it

1401
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 10: first kind of dawned on me. But everything you're saying

1402
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 10: is where the conversation needs to start going towards, because

1403
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 10: what you're saying is one hundred percent what's happening. The

1404
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 10: twenty twenty two season, that playoffs we called the super Bowl.

1405
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 10: We had Detroit and San Francisco in one of the

1406
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 10: playoff games. I don't remember, maybe the divisional round or

1407
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 10: I can't remember exactly what round of the playoffs it was.

1408
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 10: And the conversation back then was San Francisco was so

1409
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 10: good in twenty one personnel. Okay, so they had two receivers,

1410
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 10: they had McCaffrey Kittle and use check and they could

1411
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 10: be in eleven type plays because of the flexibility of

1412
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 10: McCaffrey and use check and kittle. They could be in

1413
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 10: twelve types, so two tight end type stuff because of

1414
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 10: use check and kittle, And it was putting a lot

1415
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 10: of pressure on defenses. And one of the big issues

1416
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 10: that the Lions were having that year was matching those

1417
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 10: base personnel looks. And we said at the top of

1418
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 10: that broadcast, this was three years ago that at the

1419
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 10: Aaron Glenn at the time was the coordinator that if

1420
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 10: I was running the Detroit Lions defense, that they should

1421
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 10: not worry about personnel at all and they should only

1422
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 10: play down in distance. On first and ten, the tendencies

1423
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 10: of the Shanahan office was under center, play action pass.

1424
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 10: So play under center play action pass. If they hand

1425
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 10: the ball off and get seven yards, so be it.

1426
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 10: And just go through down in distance tendencies and play

1427
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 10: your personnel, whether it's four or five man fronts, whether

1428
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 10: it's three safeties, three linebackers, four, whatever your personnel groupings are,

1429
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 10: and base them off down in distance. So that was

1430
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 10: two and a half years ago that we were having

1431
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 10: that conversation of a playoff game, and that is exactly

1432
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 10: what the Lions did. Anyway, fast forward to today, the

1433
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 10: conversation that needs to be had is why do the

1434
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 10: Rams play almost exclusively eleven yet are very good at

1435
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 10: running the ball. And the answer is because they build

1436
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 10: eleven personnel groupings. You play me and Nickel and I'm

1437
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 10: going to line up in tight, condensed splits with in

1438
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 10: the old days Cooper Cup. Nowadays it's Puka Nakua and company,

1439
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 10: and those guys are good edge blockers. I'm going to

1440
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 10: add gaps to the run game that now all of

1441
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 10: these defensive backs, five six defensive backs and Nickel and

1442
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 10: Dime have to fit the run. I'm gonna get all

1443
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 10: those big bodies off the field because you're gonna match

1444
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,439
Speaker 10: Nickel against my eleven, and I'm gonna run the ball

1445
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 10: at you in first and second down, and then all

1446
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 10: of my playpass stuff looks exactly like that because the

1447
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 10: way McVeigh builds it. Now, flip it to last night

1448
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 10: with Seattle, they're doing the opposite. They're bringing big bodies

1449
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 10: onto the field under the assumption that you're gonna match

1450
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 10: me with big bodies, and I'm gonna make you go

1451
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 10: big to throw it, and La is trying to make

1452
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 10: you go small to run it. And that's the starting

1453
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 10: point of everything they're trying to do. They are manipulating

1454
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 10: the personnel groupings you bring on the field, and then

1455
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 10: they're gonna play the game accordingly. That's why if I

1456
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 10: was running defenses, I would match things more often than

1457
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 10: not on tendencies of down and distance, where I don't

1458
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 10: care if you come out in twelve personnel. If I

1459
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:54,479
Speaker 10: know you're a first and ten past team, I'm gonna

1460
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,479
Speaker 10: play first and ten two high safeties, and I'm gonna if.

1461
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 7: You run it, you run it.

1462
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 10: That's where the league, I think is going. From the

1463
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 10: conversations I have with defensive coordinators and really smart defensive people,

1464
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 10: that's the indications that they're giving me if you don't

1465
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 10: give up explosive runs, which teams are now starting to realize.

1466
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 10: Putting more guys at the first and second level actually

1467
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 10: on a play by play better, you'll like this, will

1468
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 10: like on a play by play basis, defenses will support

1469
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 10: the run better in eight man spacing, five to three spacing,

1470
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 10: four to four spacing, like more first and second level defenders.

1471
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 10: But what we're finding is against Derrick Henry and Saquon

1472
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 10: Barkley and those kind of backs, the explosive runs are

1473
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 10: happening against single high coverage because once that play pops through,

1474
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 10: it's gone. Yea, So teams are going you know what,

1475
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 10: i might give up five or six, but I'm not

1476
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 10: gonna give up fifty. I'm gonna put a net. I'm

1477
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 10: gonna play everything from high to low. I might be

1478
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 10: light at the line of scrimmage, but that's okay. And

1479
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 10: I'm not gonna let you run the ball for forty

1480
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 10: plus yard plays and chunk me to death in the

1481
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 10: run game. That's a problem. The good teams are all

1482
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 10: doing that. The bend, but don't break. Make you go

1483
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 10: the length of the field, make you snap it again.

1484
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 10: I could get a sack, I could get a holding call,

1485
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 10: I could get a false start. But every time an

1486
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 10: offense snaps the ball, something bad can happen. And that's

1487
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 10: become the model of today's NFL. And I think it's

1488
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 10: just going to continue to go more and more that

1489
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 10: way because teams don't want you to throw the ball

1490
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 10: and they really don't care if you run it.

1491
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1492
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is I could talk about We could talk

1493
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 4: about this all day long.

1494
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 2: I just think it's so fascinating.

1495
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 4: Because again, you brought up the rams in the way

1496
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 4: that they're able to run the ball in eleven personnel

1497
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 4: because usually again when you're going nickel bodies back like

1498
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 4: back in the day, the nickel wouldn't be coming in

1499
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 4: and had to be very savvy in the run game

1500
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 4: and say, hey, you're gonna have the be gap on

1501
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 4: this snap. They're only going to run a.

1502
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, Hey, it's.

1503
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 7: Because he's so physical. That's a different animal.

1504
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

1505
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 4: And also even in the bigger personnel, So take the

1506
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills for example, like the development of the linebacker

1507
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 4: over the course of the decade has gotten more athletic, faster,

1508
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 4: maybe a little smaller and leaner. And if you take

1509
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 4: the Buffalo Bill's second level, they're a little light in

1510
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 4: the ass. So when you're going against these twelve thirteen

1511
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 4: personnel teams, it's where you could struggle in the run

1512
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 4: game because you don't have bigger bodies, and then you

1513
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 4: get caught between a rock and a hard place on

1514
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 4: you know, when you hit free agency or what you're

1515
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 4: trying to stop or eliminate, do you get bigger bodies now,

1516
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 4: it's just been fascinating to see these offenses adapt year

1517
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 4: in and year out. To the personnel. It's like, again,

1518
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 4: we've been a little bit more gun run heavy in

1519
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 4: the gun pass games opened up because bigger bodies have

1520
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 4: been out there. Now we're making teams go nickel. Hey,

1521
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 4: Now we've learned that if we go twelve personnel and

1522
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 4: we have very athletic tight ends, he could block at times,

1523
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 4: he could be a receiving threat. Now they're a lighter

1524
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 4: in the ass across the second level lining up against

1525
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,719
Speaker 4: twelve thirteen personnel. Now we're able to run the football

1526
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 4: more because the second level is now lighter because of

1527
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 4: how defenses said had to adapt over the last decade.

1528
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 4: Two a passing threat offense. This is what I just

1529
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 4: sit back and think about it, and I always I'll

1530
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 4: give you.

1531
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 10: Another one that's super timely. Buffalo they play a ton

1532
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 10: of thirteen, So three tight ends they get, Yeah, Knox,

1533
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 10: Kincaid and then the rookie. They don't do as much

1534
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 10: twelve as you would think with Knox and Kincaid because

1535
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,879
Speaker 10: when they go twelve with Knox and Kincaid, what defense,

1536
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:27,679
Speaker 10: what defense do they bring out?

1537
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 7: What personnel group? Nicol they play Nickel, So you.

1538
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 10: Lose all of your advantage in Kincaid. Is it really

1539
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 10: going to gain that advantage back? So to be an

1540
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 10: early down passing team out of twelve Buffalo has said,

1541
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 10: you know what, that doesn't really do anything for us,

1542
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 10: but you know what does get you in base and

1543
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 10: does get a lot of big bodies on the field.

1544
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 7: Thirteen.

1545
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 10: Yeah, and then you know who My Z receiver in

1546
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 10: essence is Dalton Kincaid. So now I have Kincaid, I

1547
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 10: have my ex whichever receiver they leave on the field

1548
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 10: depending on the play. And then Dawson Knox is the

1549
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 10: is the the f and then the rookie is the

1550
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 10: big Why he's like the on the ball true tight end.

1551
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 10: They can line up in double wing and run it

1552
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 10: down your throat or what they like to do is

1553
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 10: they can spread you out and they can throw it

1554
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 10: because they feel like that's the.

1555
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:15,759
Speaker 7: One personnel grouping.

1556
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 10: They are getting a pass advantage because they're not great

1557
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 10: on the outside. They're not dominant at the outside receivers.

1558
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 10: So they're doing it with screen games the Shakir and

1559
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 10: they're doing it with play action pass to the tight ends.

1560
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 10: And obviously James Cook in the run game in the

1561
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,560
Speaker 10: screen game, so it's another great example of Buffalo and

1562
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,719
Speaker 10: Joe Brady being really intelligent of how do I get

1563
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 10: big bodies on the field when I want to throw it?

1564
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 10: And how do I get more little bodies on the

1565
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 10: field when I want to run it? Right, that's what

1566
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 10: everyone's doing. And if you match personnel, you're as a defense,

1567
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 10: you are now at the mercy of the offense right

1568
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 10: dictating to you who's on the field.

1569
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 4: And making the secondary even especially corners like play savvy

1570
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 4: in the run game enough to mess with their and

1571
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 4: hit him on these play actual passers.

1572
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 10: And again without getting into the weeds, too complicated on

1573
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 10: all this, but this is where the McVeigh shanahan wide receiver,

1574
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 10: pre snap, jet motion and all that stuff that everyone

1575
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 10: looks at and goes, man, it's to distract the linebackers.

1576
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 10: It's not distracting the linebackers. This is not middle school

1577
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 10: football where you send a guy in motion and all

1578
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 10: eleven guys on defense watch him go. It changes the

1579
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 10: run fits, Yeah, it changes Now that that backside nickel

1580
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 10: who's an edge player off the slot, all of a sudden,

1581
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 10: that guy goes in fast motion. He's now the backside

1582
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 10: b gat player and we're running wine back inside zone

1583
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 10: and he's at the point of attack now. And the

1584
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:40,799
Speaker 10: front side linebacker who's Will Compton, he's your run player.

1585
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 10: He just got bumped to the edge because now it's

1586
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 10: a three by one formation and he's got to play

1587
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 10: outside the box and he can't make the tackle. Like

1588
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 10: that's what's going on in all of this, And it's

1589
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 10: a hard thing to get across in the broadcast because

1590
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 10: the timing and it's a little in depth, but it

1591
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 10: is a fascinating evolution of offensive football the way that

1592
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 10: it's being played nowadays.

1593
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 4: Because again, even even the defensive back, like just the

1594
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 4: inexperience of playing very detailed on the run game. You

1595
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 4: get them to pat their feet just for a second

1596
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 4: and the GAP's gonna move or you're gonna get the

1597
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,640
Speaker 4: body on them eventually, and just that little bit of

1598
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,640
Speaker 4: or enough inexperience to where, hey, you're putting them in

1599
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 4: a in a very much a run conflict situation to

1600
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 4: where that's all you need to pop an explosive play.

1601
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. You guys brought you brought

1602
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 1: the bills of the thirteen personnel. That's the only way

1603
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 1: to get these defense is to go in two base

1604
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 1: if you are a defense coordinator game planning against the

1605
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, how are you playing their tendencies? This is

1606
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 1: kind of for both of you.

1607
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 10: Oh, I guess it depends what my team is, right, Yeah,

1608
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,600
Speaker 10: I guess I would have to look at my personnel

1609
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:50,560
Speaker 10: and say, right, So, what's been the advantage.

1610
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 7: Of the Eagles over the last couple of years.

1611
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 10: It's twofold, right, So, as I'm building it, if I

1612
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 10: put my defensive coordinator hat on here, my first question

1613
01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 10: is how good is my offense? And if I say

1614
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 10: my offense is a twenty five or more points per game,

1615
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 10: maybe we're even closer to twenty eight. I'm sitting there saying,

1616
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 10: I don't give a shit how much you run the

1617
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 10: ball on me. You're not gonna score twenty eight to

1618
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 10: thirty points a game doing that. I'm gonna play high shells.

1619
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 10: I'm gonna control the front. I'm gonna control the run

1620
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:18,679
Speaker 10: game with my front. That's been Philadelphia for the last

1621
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 10: couple of years, right. That's Vic Fangio's kind of touch

1622
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 10: on NFL defenses over the last decade is high shells.

1623
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 10: Everything from the top down be really dominant at one

1624
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 10: or two spots. In the defensive line, and those guys

1625
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 10: control the game. And now my back seven are all

1626
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 10: pass first, run, second downhill, run and chase players. If

1627
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 10: that's my personnel and my offense is that compliment, That's

1628
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 10: exactly what.

1629
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 7: I'm gonna be.

1630
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 10: It's why Dallas really struggled last year and everyone overreacted

1631
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 10: to Dallas needs to be better against the run. Well,

1632
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 10: in twenty twenty three, when Dak was a potential MVP

1633
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 10: and they're scoring thirty a game, no one talked about

1634
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 10: Dallas's run game because it was Draymond Diggs and it

1635
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 10: was Deron Bland having pick sixes and Micah Parson's having

1636
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 10: stripsacks with DeMarcus Lawrence and they're just rushing the passer

1637
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,640
Speaker 10: the entire game. Because you can't run and keep up

1638
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 10: with Dak in a thirty point offense, Dak gets hurt.

1639
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:15,719
Speaker 10: All of a sudden, the passing game goes to shit,

1640
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 10: and it turns into the Rico Dawdle run game. Well,

1641
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 10: all of a sudden, now we're playing a lot lower

1642
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 10: scoring games as a result, because I'm not chasing Dallas anymore,

1643
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 10: and I can run the ball for four quarters and

1644
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,879
Speaker 10: all of a sudden now the weakness of the smaller bodies,

1645
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 10: the lighter bodies. The way Dallas built that defense over

1646
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 10: the years to complement a thirty point offense has now

1647
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 10: completely broken down. So I guess to answer your question,

1648
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 10: how good's my offense? Am I playing low twenties high

1649
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 10: teens games? Or am I making this a race to thirty?

1650
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 10: That changes my decisions drastically? And then do I have

1651
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 10: one or two interior defensive linemen that are just an

1652
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 10: absolute game wrecker that I can hold the front and

1653
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 10: you might get me here and there, but at the

1654
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 10: end you ran twenty two times for eighty five yards.

1655
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 10: I'm fine with that. That doesn't bother me. So there's

1656
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,799
Speaker 10: some nuance to how I would play, but generally speaking,

1657
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:06,839
Speaker 10: that would be my approach.

1658
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, and just understanding your back seven Like again, it's

1659
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 4: it's like, if you're sitting there stuck between a rock

1660
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 4: and a hard place, are we going to go bigger

1661
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 4: personnel this game or not?

1662
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 2: Well, if we're going to go on extra back, you're

1663
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 2: on extra backer' here. Number one?

1664
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 4: Is he detailed enough in the past game to where

1665
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 4: he can run and play in space? And if not,

1666
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,679
Speaker 4: do you have a secondary level guy or a defensive

1667
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 4: bad guy who can play in the run game and

1668
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:32,679
Speaker 4: be like, all right, we'll give up some of the run,

1669
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 4: but we really need this guy in the back end

1670
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 4: to eliminate.

1671
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:38,759
Speaker 2: Some of the explosives through the air. So it all.

1672
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 4: Depends, and it's just been it's just fascinating to watch

1673
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 4: this game can continue to adapt, you know, a few

1674
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 4: years at a time, and then see teams go after

1675
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 4: certain body types, certain body types like again, even when

1676
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,719
Speaker 4: the tight end was becoming more of a receiving threat.

1677
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 4: With all these very athletic tight ends, Jordan Reed was

1678
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 4: one of them for us to where you're kind of

1679
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 4: more you're trying to get teams more out of space.

1680
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:03,720
Speaker 4: But anytime you knew Jordan Reid was in the game,

1681
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 4: let's just say he.

1682
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 2: Was number eighty five.

1683
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 4: If you knew eighty five was in the game, you're

1684
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 4: gonna put lighter personnel out there because you know ninety

1685
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 4: percent of the time they're gonna throw a pass because

1686
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 4: of Jordan Reid. Versus if you got Logan Paulsen eighty two,

1687
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 4: who's a blocking tight end. Now you're just seeing these

1688
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 4: semi positions become you know, just super athletic, like these

1689
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 4: freaks that they're finding that can kind of do both things.

1690
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 4: To Greg's point with Buffalo, where you could put thirteen

1691
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 4: out there and Kinkaid can play.

1692
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 2: The X or player receiver.

1693
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 10: So it's this is football interesting, Yeah, this is It's

1694
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 10: what they tried to do with Kyle Pitts in Atlanta

1695
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 10: with Arthur Smith.

1696
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yes, great example.

1697
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 10: It's the exact same thing. The problem was early in

1698
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 10: his career. And I haven't had an Atlanta game this year,

1699
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 10: so I don't want to make a blanket observations. I

1700
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 10: haven't watched Kyle play this year, but obviously freak athlete,

1701
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 10: wide receiver type, body type, skills, ability to move.

1702
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a.

1703
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 10: Rare dude to have te next to his name. The

1704
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 10: problem was they played him as a Z receiver and

1705
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 10: you lose a little bit of your matchup, right, Like

1706
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 10: I ow, the worst thing for me, the best thing

1707
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 10: for me in my career. I'll just speak about myself.

1708
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 10: It's easier than be giving judging other guys. Early in

1709
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 10: my career when I came out, when we went two

1710
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 10: tight ends in Chicago, Desmond Clark, who was the other

1711
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:20,440
Speaker 10: tight end with me, the vet.

1712
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 7: He was the why.

1713
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 10: He was the true tight end, and I was the

1714
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 10: F I was in the slot. I was the third receiver.

1715
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,679
Speaker 10: That was never my game. I was not comfortable out there.

1716
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 10: I didn't want to run choice routes. I didn't want

1717
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 10: to run underneath like that was not who I was.

1718
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 10: The best thing for my career was playing the why,

1719
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 10: because I was the why. Whether it was twelve eleven, thirteen,

1720
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 10: twenty one, it didn't matter.

1721
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 7: I was the why.

1722
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 10: So my matchups were linebackers in safeties I was. I

1723
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 10: was in the run game, so I was in the

1724
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 10: game every single snap, so there was no tendencies. Hey,

1725
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 10: Olsen's in the game, let's play nickel pass. Olsen's not

1726
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 10: in the game. We can play run like when you

1727
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 10: can play every down and you don't have to be

1728
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,520
Speaker 10: so predicted bowl in your personnel groupings based on your tendencies.

1729
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 10: That was the best thing that ever happened to me.

1730
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 10: If I had to play my early in my career,

1731
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 10: when Charles Woodson was in Green Bay, Don Capers was

1732
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 10: the decordinator, and then I forget who took over for him.

1733
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 10: My rookie year, we're breaking the huddle and I got

1734
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 10: Charles Woodson guarding me in the slot. They made him

1735
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 10: like a dime linebacker. So I mean, this was fifteen

1736
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 10: years ago, and they made him the dime linebacker. They

1737
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 10: played two high safeties, he in essence became the other

1738
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 10: Nickel and he would play me two man in the slot.

1739
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 10: And he was a Hall of Famer and I was

1740
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 10: in my first and second year. That was a bad

1741
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 10: matchup for me. I'm saying, put me back in the box.

1742
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 10: I want to run routes against linebackers and say, I

1743
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 10: don't want to guard a Hall I don't want a

1744
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 10: Hall of Fame defensive back who's a corner now at

1745
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 10: this part playing safety, that's not in my best interest.

1746
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 10: But teams played us nickel to twelve early in my career,

1747
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 10: and the better I got at blocking, and the better

1748
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,480
Speaker 10: I got at being on the field in all personnel groupings,

1749
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 10: more of an advantage I got in the passing game.

1750
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 2: Think about you in some of these offensive schemes nowadays, Greg,

1751
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:07,959
Speaker 2: Oh my god, bro, it's like that.

1752
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 7: That's nowadays. I'm like, oh, and you're.

1753
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 4: Seeing how much offenses have grown schematically, the thought process

1754
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 4: utilizing the personnel, Like that's why That's why George Kittle

1755
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 4: is such a beast, because he's somebody who again who

1756
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 4: can be a true why. He can block, he can

1757
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 4: receive versus like a Travis Kelcey to where you'll have

1758
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 4: that extra tight end in there. Maybe they give some

1759
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 4: disguise and you kind of got some freaks around him

1760
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 4: on the outside so where you can still be in

1761
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 4: the gun at times. You know, he's more of a

1762
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 4: pass savvy tight end. But like yourself, Greg like Kittle, Gronk.

1763
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, Gronk was a big one that changed a whole

1764
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 1: lot of things because you have no idea how to

1765
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 1: set up against.

1766
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 10: It's a great you guys got me taking my jacket off.

1767
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,719
Speaker 10: You guys got yeah.

1768
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1769
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 1: It is so interesting to see, like the thought process

1770
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,600
Speaker 1: of defensive coordinators. Are you playing against the personnel? You

1771
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 1: play against tendencies, and it's something that as an offensive

1772
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 1: lineman you don't really think about. You was say, okay,

1773
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 1: we're in twelve thirteen personnel, they're going to bring base

1774
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 1: out here, and now it's like that's no longer what

1775
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 1: it case. And that's when I was playing, That's how

1776
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 1: it always was, like, Hey, we're gonna put bigger bodies

1777
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 1: in the field because we had a Delaney Walker who

1778
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 1: was kind of that wide tight end that could he

1779
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 1: could run block a little bit, but also he was

1780
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 1: one of our best pass casts. And you just you

1781
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 1: start to learn the game of chess that has to

1782
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 1: take place weekend and week out, and then hearing about, hey,

1783
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:26,720
Speaker 1: how's my offense, because that's going to change dramatically. How

1784
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 1: I call this defense. It's it's it's Awesomeoba is in

1785
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 1: a great place.

1786
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 10: The guys are just more versatile now, Taylor than they were.

1787
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 10: You know, even when we were playing five. You know,

1788
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 10: I'm out five years so eight years ago, ten years ago, Like,

1789
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 10: guys are more versatile, right. There's receivers now that are

1790
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 10: legitimate threats in the run game, blocking edges, adding gaps

1791
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 10: to the.

1792
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 2: Defense in the line of scrimmage.

1793
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 10: Puka Naku When did we ever what was the when

1794
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 10: we used to run run game, especially even Nickel twelve,

1795
01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,839
Speaker 10: It didn't matter what it was Nickel run. The receivers

1796
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 10: were out on the numbers playing Patty Cake with the corner.

1797
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 10: Every once in a while, if it was quarters and

1798
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 10: it was Bob Sanders or it was a dude at safety,

1799
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 10: we would crack replace and we would go and the

1800
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 10: receiver would go dig out that force player. That was

1801
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 10: the extent of receiver run game responsibility in a lot

1802
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:19,520
Speaker 10: of these offenses now, especially the real tight, condensed formations

1803
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 10: of the floor tree, I mean the McVeigh and Shanahan

1804
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 10: type tree. You can't play in those offenses as a receiver, yeah,

1805
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 10: if you don't block. So it's just a completely different

1806
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 10: mindset now. And you know, we could say the same

1807
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:35,639
Speaker 10: thing about running backs, right, like the McCaffrey's of the world,

1808
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:38,600
Speaker 10: Like McCaffrey's McCaffrey because of what he can do in

1809
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:42,959
Speaker 10: the passing game, he's a receiver. He is so uniquely

1810
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 10: talented compared to other running backs. That's why his value

1811
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 10: is so much higher.

1812
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1813
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's like I would sit there in defensive meetings

1814
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 4: when they'd be going over if like say, I would

1815
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 4: be the guy out going Nickel against like twelve, and

1816
01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 4: I would just be sitting there thinking in my head,

1817
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 4: why wouldn't all offenses just if we're gonna run Nickel?

1818
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 4: This if I'm the OC and I kind of see

1819
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 4: that we're running Nickel, knowing how they're trying to coach

1820
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 4: this nickel right on. Hey, Mike's gonna make the close call.

1821
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 4: Let's say left. You just go line up on the right,

1822
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 4: find the open bubble that'll be your gap. I'm thinking,

1823
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 4: in my head, if OC's just understood this conversation being had,

1824
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 4: why wouldn't they just live in this personnel, keep us

1825
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 4: in nickel and force this this defensive back to play

1826
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 4: in the run game enough so to where now he's

1827
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 4: all fucked up because he's trying to commit to the

1828
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 4: run game so much, and now you crack him over

1829
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 4: the top with a play action pass, and now seeing

1830
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:35,440
Speaker 4: it happen, it's just it's fascinating.

1831
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 1: You're ahead of your tongue.

1832
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 4: I'm like, sitting there, I'm just thinking in my head,

1833
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 4: if you're just if that OC was just sitting in

1834
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 4: this meeting room and knew this is how we were

1835
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 4: kind of trying to adjust, Like, hey, they're gonna be

1836
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 4: in twelve personnel, but they're kind of gonna show us

1837
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,799
Speaker 4: more eleven looks than anything else. We're just gonna stay

1838
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 4: in nickel and and if they do line up at

1839
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 4: ace or put two tight ends in, hey buddy, here's

1840
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 4: where you're gonna kind of fit it's gonna be unlikely,

1841
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 4: but if it does happen, just take care of this

1842
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 4: b gap on the backside for us.

1843
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 7: And so, how many.

1844
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 10: Teams over the years when they brought two tight ends,

1845
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 10: Let's be honest, how many teams could bring two tight

1846
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 10: ends in twelve and be equally good in the passing

1847
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 10: game both guys, not just the f both guys be

1848
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 10: equally good in the passing game, and both guys equally

1849
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 10: good in the run game.

1850
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 7: How many offenses in the last ten years have been

1851
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 7: able to do that?

1852
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 2: Do you have the answer?

1853
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:28,639
Speaker 7: It's not very many. It's less than a handful.

1854
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, But now it's trending to where your car changing.

1855
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 7: That's what I think.

1856
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 10: My point is, it's a lot more relevant today than

1857
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 10: it was earlier in my career, where there was that's

1858
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 10: the blocker, that's the receiver, and we're going to treat

1859
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 10: them as such, even though if they're both in the game.

1860
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:50,480
Speaker 10: I don't care if we call them tight ends hvacs.

1861
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 10: That guy could be a right tackle. He is zero

1862
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 10: fret to do anything in the passing game outside of.

1863
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 7: A spot route or as sticky.

1864
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 10: That guy, he he's not digging out a sea gap

1865
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 10: power player. He's not cutting off the backside zone. He

1866
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 10: is a f wide receiver. That was the game when

1867
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 10: I came into the league fifteen years ago. That has

1868
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 10: really been muddy. The lines have been blurred between the

1869
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 10: ability to do multiple things, not just that tight end

1870
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 10: running back wide receiver line like it's it's a lot

1871
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 10: more positionless in today's NFL on both sides of the

1872
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 10: ball than it was when I came in the league

1873
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 10: fifteen years ago.

1874
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1875
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,440
Speaker 10: How many two hundred and seventy pounds three four linebackers

1876
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 10: play in the league anymore? Levon Kirkland and zero Pittsburgh.

1877
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 2: It's like you see you see guys every now and then.

1878
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 4: It's like Nick Bolton, Like that's somebody who was thick

1879
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 4: and will knock your dick in the dirt.

1880
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 2: But he can also run, yes, because he's there.

1881
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, you think he weighs to forty maybe to forty five.

1882
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 10: But when we can do the league, he's a six

1883
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 10: line especially if you were a three like all those

1884
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 10: Ampsy North teams, you know, the Steelers and the Ravens.

1885
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 10: I mean, when I first came in the league, three

1886
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 10: four base linebackers were two hundred and sixty pounds.

1887
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1888
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 7: Those guards in three four were three fifty yeah.

1889
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 10: Yeah, And then they would they would walk off the

1890
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:23,679
Speaker 10: field and you would go nickel and they would the trap.

1891
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 10: The lines being blurred between you're a three technique, you a.

1892
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 7: Nose, Sure, you're a mic or a will I.

1893
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 10: Don't know you all kind of everyone kind of looks

1894
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 10: the same body type wise.

1895
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 4: Oh, here's how we're going to defend this wide zone scheme.

1896
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 4: Now it's coming into rights.

1897
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 7: Like, which I think is super fun to talk about.

1898
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 4: I had Terrence knighton in front of me one year,

1899
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 4: is on like the back breatings career, and he was

1900
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 4: they called him pot ROAs like he was massive, like

1901
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 4: three fifty three sixty. You just will if there's a

1902
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 4: if there's a YU tied in, it's like you're having

1903
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 4: to gas him and just get him going to the

1904
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 4: side of where you're assuming the wide zone is going

1905
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:02,799
Speaker 4: to be, just to get them running.

1906
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 1: Dude. My rookie year, we were playing the Bengals and

1907
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 1: they just most recently played the Ravens, and I saw

1908
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 1: Ray Monteluga on a pin Polls game take a tackle

1909
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 1: out like declete him and it's like you don't really

1910
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 1: see that anymore. Those types of linebackers that are just

1911
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 1: like cowboy collar esque type guys, the ray Lewis Is

1912
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 1: that are just murdering people. Guess yourself why, because the

1913
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 1: evolution of the tight end, it seems like, right.

1914
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:32,679
Speaker 10: Ray Lewis, probably ray Lewis is probably not the example,

1915
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 10: even though he was that big type body. But the

1916
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:37,840
Speaker 10: reason those guys can't play anymore is because they're not

1917
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 10: three down players, and their weaknesses, as physical as they

1918
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 10: are and as stout as they are in the run game,

1919
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 10: their liabilities in coverage, their liabilities to match man and

1920
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 10: if you're forced to only play zones, can they tackle

1921
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:54,599
Speaker 10: in space? Can they cover? Like the liability in coverage

1922
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 10: is not worth the advantage gained by their stout and

1923
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 10: physicality in the run game, because defenses realize, this guy

1924
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 10: might be great stopping the run, but if he's an

1925
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 10: absolute liability in the passing.

1926
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 7: Game, he can't be on the field. Yeah, he is

1927
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:10,520
Speaker 7: going to be.

1928
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 10: He's going to be attacked, he's going to be isolated,

1929
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 10: and we are gonna die a lot faster death this

1930
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 10: guy being exploited in the run game. In the passing game,

1931
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 10: then him on first and second down being really good

1932
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 10: against will lead ISO Like yeah, it just doesn't matter.

1933
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 2: And those superstars they don't really walk around. It's like

1934
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 2: you got it all.

1935
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 4: I mean, there are there are good backers who can

1936
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,640
Speaker 4: play all three downs, but at a superstar level, like

1937
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:35,799
Speaker 4: a keek Ley and Fred Warner.

1938
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:36,799
Speaker 2: Like they're those.

1939
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 10: Guys that you get him, you paying thirty million, and

1940
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 10: you don't let him walk out the door.

1941
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1942
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, there's always exceptions to all of these rules, right,

1943
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 10: Like that's why those guys are the elite of the elite.

1944
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 10: But every other team is trying to figure out Most

1945
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 10: teams are trying to figure out how to be good

1946
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:54,599
Speaker 10: in all these areas without just having the best player

1947
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 10: on the field. If you have the best player on

1948
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 10: the field, it makes coaching a lot of these intricacies

1949
01:27:59,400 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 10: a lot simpler.

1950
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to assume too.

1951
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:03,839
Speaker 4: These are how a lot of these staff meetings probably

1952
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 4: go when trying to game plan.

1953
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, what bodies are we going to be putting out there?

1954
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 2: This was fun?

1955
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 7: Great, It all goes hand in hand.

1956
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 2: It all goes hand in hand.

1957
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:13,639
Speaker 1: What are we going to see I formation again?

1958
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 4: Twenty two personnel saw you saw something you saw, so yeah,

1959
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 4: you're seeing it again like yesterday.

1960
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 1: Like Downhill isotype stuff.

1961
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 4: Yesterday Joe Brady, they were they were gashing him with

1962
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 4: some rap leads in twelve like twenty two personnel, like

1963
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 4: some good old fashioned rap leads that were gashing them spags.

1964
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:33,639
Speaker 4: They adjust to it in the second half, but again

1965
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 4: it's like you're just seeing some of these old like

1966
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 4: some of the traditional sets just coming back. Whether or

1967
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 4: not they should run game and everything else, but it's

1968
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:41,599
Speaker 4: been fun.

1969
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 2: It's been fun.

1970
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:44,839
Speaker 10: I think teams should do it more. Now does everybody

1971
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 10: have a full back? That's a different conversation. It's kind

1972
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 10: of a lost art. But like, I think teams should

1973
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 10: run more two back. I think it really works well

1974
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:55,680
Speaker 10: under center play action. I think it really does a

1975
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 10: stressful job on the defense changing gaps. And now we're

1976
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 10: splitting apps with a lead blocker, right, so now that

1977
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:03,480
Speaker 10: that that b gap.

1978
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 7: Will insert play that everyone ran for him.

1979
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 10: It was like the first install any of us ever learned, right,

1980
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 10: was ie formation to the weak side, and the full

1981
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 10: back and the will linebacker just smashed into each other.

1982
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:15,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, the part.

1983
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 10: We never learned back in the day that now defenses

1984
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 10: are realizing is well, all of a sudden, that B

1985
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 10: gap became two gaps, So now you need to have

1986
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 10: two players, someone on the outside of the blocker inside.

1987
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 10: It's hard teams. These kids don't grow up fitting full

1988
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 10: back ISO anymore. They don't they don't do two back

1989
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 10: power anymore. Like, these guys are not used to defending

1990
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 10: these plays. So if you are good at that element,

1991
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 10: it can be a very effective kind of wrinkle that

1992
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 10: defenses are not accustomed to defending.

1993
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, before before we get you out of here. Yeah,

1994
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:53,599
Speaker 1: Ravens destroy the Dolphins. The Dolphins fire their GM Chris Greer,

1995
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 1: but they don't fire McDaniels. How do we feel about that?

1996
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 10: So I'll be I want to be very clear. I

1997
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 10: never call for anyone to get fired. I think they're

1998
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 10: in a society where I've been cut, I've been released,

1999
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 10: I've been traded. I've been on teams where my position

2000
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 10: coach got fired and I had to sit in his

2001
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 10: office and like literally sit there and be like, dude,

2002
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 10: I failed you, like my tight end coach, you got

2003
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 10: fired like that was because of me or offensive coordinator

2004
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:23,760
Speaker 10: head coach.

2005
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 7: I've been on a team with the head coaches.

2006
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 10: So I've experienced all that, so I never I think

2007
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:31,639
Speaker 10: we're in a society where fans really disconnect, Like these

2008
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:34,639
Speaker 10: are human beings with jobs and families and they're losing

2009
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 10: their livelihood and they got to uproot and go somewhere else.

2010
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 10: I get why, because the environment and the competitive spirit.

2011
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 10: So I just want to preface it by saying I

2012
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 10: don't ever root for anyone to get fired.

2013
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:47,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was shocked.

2014
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 10: That if a change was made, it was going to

2015
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 10: be in the front office. Like watching that game. I

2016
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 10: don't know if at any point now are they the

2017
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 10: most talented roster. No, but did I watch that game

2018
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 10: and be like, and if the GM did a better job,

2019
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 10: they wouldn't have wasted that time out, or the GM

2020
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:06,439
Speaker 10: did a better job, they wouldn't have gotten that illegal formation,

2021
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 10: or like all the little details that kind of fell

2022
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 10: apart for Miami, especially early in that game when they

2023
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 10: were still competitive and they were in it.

2024
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:17,800
Speaker 7: I don't to.

2025
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 10: Wake up the next day and see change was made.

2026
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:25,280
Speaker 10: Maybe wasn't surprising. I'm not saying I would have fired Mike,

2027
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:29,639
Speaker 10: but I don't know. That just felt that felt personal,

2028
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 10: That felt like it had been brewing, and there was

2029
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:37,120
Speaker 10: personal animosity between ownership again I'm speculating right, and front office,

2030
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 10: and like the owner just felt like, we have to

2031
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:42,800
Speaker 10: do something. We're in bed with this coach. He's our

2032
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 10: offensive play caller. We don't want to replace the OC

2033
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 10: and head coach, which ultimately you would be doing. But

2034
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 10: our fans are also not going to wake up this

2035
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 10: morning and just say status quo is acceptable. So it

2036
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:58,280
Speaker 10: kind of felt like that to me. But that was

2037
01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:00,599
Speaker 10: a tough That was tough ball to watch that. There

2038
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:02,840
Speaker 10: was a lot going on in that game.

2039
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:03,760
Speaker 7: That's just bat ball.

2040
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 4: They were in fourth and goal once and I think

2041
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 4: they went maybe an empty and throw a fade ball.

2042
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 1: To the It was, Yeah, it was horrendous to watch.

2043
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 10: They want to throw a first down jump ball to

2044
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 10: Justin Jefferson, Okay.

2045
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. I mean the reason why I even brought

2046
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 1: that question, the reason why I even bring that question up,

2047
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:29,439
Speaker 1: was that Steven A. Smith the next day, he's going

2048
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:31,760
Speaker 1: on a tangent. I think he was making like a

2049
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:34,200
Speaker 1: racial thing about everything going down there. I'm not going

2050
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:37,720
Speaker 1: down that road. I'm looking at from a longer playstandpoint,

2051
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:39,680
Speaker 1: where you know, Mike McDaniels at the end of the year,

2052
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 1: when it's the Black Friday or the Black Monday, whenever

2053
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 1: they start getting rid of head coaches, I think his

2054
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:47,879
Speaker 1: name ends up getting called and cut where the Dolphins

2055
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:50,680
Speaker 1: need a new head coach. The the thing that I

2056
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:52,640
Speaker 1: think makes us a good mover where I can look

2057
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 1: at it and be Okay, I can see why they

2058
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 1: did that, was you look at teams like the Titans

2059
01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 1: or other franchises that have had like this up and down,

2060
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:02,840
Speaker 1: where you hire a head coach, then you get a

2061
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 1: general manager. Those two don't necessarily get along, so when

2062
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 1: you fire the head coach and then and then it's

2063
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 1: kind of back and forth, you're losing one gaining behind

2064
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:13,880
Speaker 1: the always. So maybe in this way, like you know

2065
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 1: who your general manager is going to be in the future,

2066
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 1: you figure that out to where you know who his

2067
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:20,000
Speaker 1: guy is going to be, so it's gonna be one

2068
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:22,599
Speaker 1: smooth transition when he gets the new year, the new

2069
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:24,719
Speaker 1: year of the new season, and you have a GM

2070
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 1: a head coach that are aligned with the ownership. That's

2071
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 1: the only place I can look at and be like,

2072
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 1: all right, maybe this is a good chess move for

2073
01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:32,760
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Am I making any sense in that?

2074
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're saying get rid of If you get rid

2075
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 4: of the GM, now you're on the lookout. You're trying

2076
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 4: to figure out your GM.

2077
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna find out your GM guy who's essentially gonna

2078
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 1: find your head coach, is going to be as well

2079
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:43,040
Speaker 1: because you go get you fire the head coach and

2080
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:45,639
Speaker 1: the GM's there. Well, obviously they're not happy with the GM.

2081
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 1: He gets rid of the whole entire secondary from last year.

2082
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 1: Their secondary is not great, Like, they haven't done a

2083
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:54,320
Speaker 1: good job of establishing a competitive roster, so he's gonna

2084
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:56,680
Speaker 1: be gone as well. You might as well get the

2085
01:33:56,720 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 1: top piece first before you insert this head coach piece.

2086
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 1: So everyone's kind of a line top to bottom.

2087
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:03,600
Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Yeah? I can buy that.

2088
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:06,760
Speaker 10: I think there's an order of operations. Yeah, that is

2089
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:08,720
Speaker 10: part of this whole entire picture, right, and then you

2090
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 10: factor in how many teams that we've seen do the

2091
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 10: alternating front office head coach draft a quarterback, then fire

2092
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 10: the coach draft like and that song and dance just

2093
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:19,880
Speaker 10: ends up you end up chasing your tail. There is

2094
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:23,840
Speaker 10: an order of operations that makes sense to all of us.

2095
01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:26,840
Speaker 10: It doesn't feel like that's the order that most teams

2096
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:31,200
Speaker 10: end up operating in. I'd also add to that, like

2097
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:33,559
Speaker 10: when was the last time, I mean, I guess when

2098
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 10: the Panthers fired they fired a rule and promoted Wilkes.

2099
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:44,479
Speaker 10: I would argue that they got better. But traditionally speaking,

2100
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 10: what team that's so bad that they fire their coach

2101
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:51,639
Speaker 10: during the season promotes an interim and things get better?

2102
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 10: Like let's look at this year, like, are the Titans better?

2103
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:57,800
Speaker 10: I mean, you follow them obviously, Taylor, Like, have things

2104
01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:00,599
Speaker 10: gotten better because they fired their coach? And we five

2105
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 10: last year with the Jets when they fired Salah, did

2106
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:10,000
Speaker 10: things get better? I mean, like, generally speaking, firing your

2107
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:12,720
Speaker 10: head coach might feel good. It might just stop having

2108
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:15,800
Speaker 10: that question asked in the in the press conferences and

2109
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 10: articles stopped being written. But as far as actually affecting

2110
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:23,559
Speaker 10: the outcome and the competency of your football, there might

2111
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 10: be a couple outliers where interim coaches have actually improved it.

2112
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:27,960
Speaker 10: Wilkes is the first one that comes.

2113
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:33,839
Speaker 2: To the wind. In Carolina, Basacia years ago went out.

2114
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:38,639
Speaker 1: I mean, Mike Malarkey when he was the internet coach.

2115
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:40,600
Speaker 1: We won one more game, win nine and seven the

2116
01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 1: next year.

2117
01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:46,559
Speaker 10: Yea, yeah, yeah, so there's a couple of outliers. Traditionally speaking,

2118
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 10: it just continues to unfold, right, It just are usually

2119
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:53,559
Speaker 10: bad for a reason. You're usually getting fired for a

2120
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:57,599
Speaker 10: reason every now and then. Can a message connect better?

2121
01:35:58,520 --> 01:35:58,760
Speaker 2: Sure?

2122
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:01,840
Speaker 10: When we fired Ron Rivera with I don't know, three games,

2123
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:04,519
Speaker 10: two or three games left in our twenty nineteen season,

2124
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:10,640
Speaker 10: it got exponentially worse. Like I don't know, I just

2125
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:13,720
Speaker 10: I'm not a big fan of just like doing shit

2126
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:16,080
Speaker 10: for the sake of doing it if it's not going

2127
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 10: to have it, if there's not someone on that staff

2128
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:20,479
Speaker 10: that you go, oh, man, let's make this guy the

2129
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 10: head coach, and I want to see what turns around.

2130
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 10: If that guy's not potentially your full time head coach

2131
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:29,639
Speaker 10: going forward, there's no reason to make them the interim

2132
01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 10: for the next seven games and just delay the inevitable.

2133
01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 1: Yeah right right. A head coach with three games left

2134
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:37,360
Speaker 1: is just insane, that's.

2135
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 2: To you, Antonio.

2136
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:41,680
Speaker 7: It was either maybe it was three or it might

2137
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:43,320
Speaker 7: have been four games, three or four games.

2138
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:45,519
Speaker 1: You get past that week eight mark and there's not

2139
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:47,400
Speaker 1: a guy that you're ently saying, hey, let's see what

2140
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 1: this dude's resume is as an interim head coach on

2141
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:53,599
Speaker 1: your in staff. There there is no reason.

2142
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I guess it isn't like a tryout kind

2143
01:36:57,240 --> 01:36:58,840
Speaker 10: of a thing. If you feel like there's the person

2144
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:01,960
Speaker 10: on your staff and I guess that's that's that's probably fair.

2145
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 10: There's also this fake reality of like getting a head start.

2146
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:09,719
Speaker 10: I don't buy that, Like I don't think of today's

2147
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:12,280
Speaker 10: day and age head coaches are like, well, I don't

2148
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 10: really want to go to the Tennessee Titans, just for example,

2149
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 10: Like you know, I don't want to go to Tennessee,

2150
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 10: but they fired their coach so they could contact me earlier,

2151
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:22,040
Speaker 10: So I'm just going to take that job instead of

2152
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 10: waiting to see. I don't think that's how the system works.

2153
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:27,639
Speaker 10: I think good coaches get hired. Whether you fire your

2154
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:30,840
Speaker 10: coach in week five or you fire your coach in

2155
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 10: the second round of the playoffs.

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Speaker 7: I think I don't know. I don't know. I just

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01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:36,640
Speaker 7: think a lot of that is overblown.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that. I'm solid. Greg, you are

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Speaker 4: the man, bro. Do you have any more for him?

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Speaker 1: No? I appreciate you, great theys, taking time, great ball.

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Speaker 7: What coach is jumping on today.

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01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:47,439
Speaker 2: Who we got to that we have?

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01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:48,960
Speaker 7: Last week we had Elco jump in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how cool was that? Heyl with Elcho? It was great, dude,

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Speaker 1: seeing you guys talk about a couple of Jersey boys

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Speaker 1: just hanging out for a little bit. That was awesome.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we got to Tony V's coming on the bus.

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Speaker 2: Nude manager for the San Francisco Giants got I.

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Speaker 7: Viewed him on my pod a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 10: Uh we a couple of weeks ago, like literally two

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01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:10,400
Speaker 10: weeks before he took that job.

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Speaker 7: I interviewed him. He's the man, bro, He's awesome.

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Speaker 4: He is awesome. But he's coming on the bus to

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Speaker 4: join us. I don't know if we have any head

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Speaker 4: coaches tuned in.

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01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, not this week.

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Speaker 4: Just you.

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Speaker 10: Well, you guys were the best man. I always love

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Speaker 10: coming on and talking ball with you guys. Appreciate you

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Speaker 10: all right, Greg, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Bring around them Paulus real quick. Appreciate Greg game.

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Speaker 7: Appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: I didn't fully are you following the ball when it

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Speaker 2: By the way, Steelers beating the Colts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean one hundred and seventy nine million dollars defense.

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Speaker 1: You know what the biggest thing was they got after

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01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:01,799
Speaker 1: the fucking quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Dude.

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Speaker 1: You watch all the film the Steels, it seemed like

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01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:08,080
Speaker 1: all that money up front high Smith, what who's the

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Speaker 1: Who's the d tackle? Cameron Hayward, Like they weren't really

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Speaker 1: getting the quarterback at all. But this game, for whatever reason,

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01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 1: I guess an off it's the line who give up

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01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:18,559
Speaker 1: the second most sacks in the NFL. They were getting

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01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:22,200
Speaker 1: after Daniel Jones' ass and that was the biggest difference

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01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:24,040
Speaker 1: maker to me when watching that film.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who's last named Peyton? Forty one?

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01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:31,840
Speaker 9: Peyton's NC State. He's a linebacker that we got late

2248
01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:33,800
Speaker 9: in the draft because he has no MCLs and his knees.

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01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:36,400
Speaker 9: Best linebacker in that class, dude, he's he can run,

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Speaker 9: he can run combined dog like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, all white team.

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01:41:43,439 --> 01:41:45,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, they might be out there, but yeah, I thought

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01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:48,640
Speaker 4: that was a massive win for Pittsburgh. Tough two for

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01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:51,560
Speaker 4: the Coat, I want to say Danny dines through three picks.

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Speaker 1: Three picks to fumbles. Yeah, tough day at.

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Speaker 2: The John Us either. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It makes it AFC, the AFC North. It makes

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01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:08,760
Speaker 1: it way more interesting now because the Ravens are gonna

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01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:10,719
Speaker 1: continue to think they're gonna continue to win. They continue

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01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:12,040
Speaker 1: to do the thing. I think they'll beat the Vikings

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01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:15,360
Speaker 1: this weekend. But the Steelers, it's like, do we fall

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01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:17,479
Speaker 1: back in love with the idea of them winning the

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Speaker 1: AFC North.

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Speaker 4: It'll be I mean it'll be close because they're what

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01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 4: two games apart, two games.

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01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:24,439
Speaker 1: Apart right now, and they played December seventh. Is the

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01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 1: next time those two teams see each other?

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01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yea.

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Speaker 9: We are in a spiral of of Jacoby Meyers rumors

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01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:33,040
Speaker 9: for all of Pittsburgh right now, like we're begging for

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01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:35,600
Speaker 9: another receiver. And that's every chat board right now. I

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01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:37,200
Speaker 9: thought we looked okay, I thought we looked good. Knew

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01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:39,320
Speaker 9: we're going to beat the Colts. But like Pittsburgh is.

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01:42:39,479 --> 01:42:41,080
Speaker 2: You knew you were going to beat the colt.

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01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:44,519
Speaker 9: The No, no, no, those are the games we win. We're

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01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:46,600
Speaker 9: gonna lose to the Browns, We're probably gonna beat the

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01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:48,639
Speaker 9: Bengals and split. We'll lose to the Ravens. We'll lose

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01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:51,240
Speaker 9: to bad teams. We beat good teams. That's what Tomlin does.

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01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:54,280
Speaker 9: He brings us back every single year, brings us back in.

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01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:57,400
Speaker 1: Have you ever been on the the stance of tom

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01:42:57,479 --> 01:43:00,640
Speaker 1: and needs to go h oh close to me?

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01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:01,240
Speaker 2: Believe so?

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01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:04,200
Speaker 9: But I've never said those words Tomlin is We're never

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01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:06,120
Speaker 9: going to find another guy that's just better than him.

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01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:09,120
Speaker 9: Would I eventually root for him on another team? Yes,

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01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 9: I would root for Tomlin to coach a different team

2287
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:14,320
Speaker 9: if that happened. I have never asked for Tomlin to not.

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01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 2: Be my head coach.

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01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:17,800
Speaker 1: Buddy. Yeah, you don't want to lose him.

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01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:20,639
Speaker 2: You don't Another team I just don't want to quit

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01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 2: on is the Texans.

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01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:26,720
Speaker 1: I know you don't and honestly, like doesn't get hurt

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01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:29,120
Speaker 1: in that game, like Texas probably will walk away with

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01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:29,519
Speaker 1: that game.

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01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:32,120
Speaker 6: The Broncos are winning games like the Chiefs did last year.

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01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:34,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, and when did you get in?

2297
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:36,439
Speaker 1: Their defense is so fucking good?

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01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:37,960
Speaker 2: Were you guys tuned into that game?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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01:43:38,439 --> 01:43:41,000
Speaker 2: So do you see when what's his name is it?

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Speaker 6: R J Harvey?

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Speaker 2: R J Harvey scored out.

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Speaker 4: Of the backfield to catch that and on that linebacker

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01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:54,080
Speaker 4: from Alabama on the Texans tote athletic linebacker. But again, hey,

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01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:57,280
Speaker 4: no bam call. Running back comes out of the backfield

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01:43:57,560 --> 01:43:59,479
Speaker 4: and sets them up on an option, right, so your

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01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:01,960
Speaker 4: thinking he's gonna break in or out. He takes off

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01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:05,679
Speaker 4: behind him easy, touchdown easy, and everybody's like, I'm sure

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01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:08,840
Speaker 4: everybody's screaming to Oto whatever he can't cover, get him up.

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01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:12,519
Speaker 4: That is such a hard fucking route to cover. If

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01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:14,040
Speaker 4: you that's why you gotta use.

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Speaker 2: That bam call.

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01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:16,400
Speaker 1: Gotta use it.

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01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 7: Got to be a hero.

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01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:21,240
Speaker 4: Sean Payton offense, Drew Brees bam stay before him.

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01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:22,920
Speaker 1: Can I answer you? U's a question. I know we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be sitting this bus.

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Speaker 2: I'll take one.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, coffee is anybody Coffee's one? Two?

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Speaker 7: I'm good?

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Speaker 1: Three? God bless it's November. Yeah, so what are we doing?

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Speaker 1: Spootoba's over? How great was Spootoo? We'll get to that

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01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:39,200
Speaker 1: in the recap.

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Speaker 4: We'll get to that, get to that bus and get

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01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:44,720
Speaker 4: to that bus. Yeah tomorrow, I'm doing Hey. And while

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Speaker 4: you're talking about that, Jay, anything else on NFL before

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01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:49,040
Speaker 4: we get back to college.

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01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:52,000
Speaker 6: Did y'all hit on the Bengals?

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Speaker 4: Did not hit on Bengals? Bears got to I wasn't.

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01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 4: I didn't get to watch. I got to sew. I

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01:44:57,080 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 4: got to see the clips after and seeing Jamar Chase

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01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:03,439
Speaker 4: just needed one, like everybody just kind of going in

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01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:05,479
Speaker 4: on that defense, like if you get any type of

2334
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:07,360
Speaker 4: life on defense, like you win that game.

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01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:09,600
Speaker 6: You should have been watching because t Higgins decided to

2336
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:10,200
Speaker 6: have the best game.

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Speaker 4: I saw that he's on the Yeah, he's on the

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01:45:13,439 --> 01:45:16,240
Speaker 4: fantasy team. I saw you was sitting around like six

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01:45:16,280 --> 01:45:17,720
Speaker 4: to eight points before.

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Speaker 6: That went off.

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01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:22,479
Speaker 4: Bro to touchdowns that you'll get the fuck off me

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01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:24,880
Speaker 4: catch Oh yeah.

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01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:28,519
Speaker 3: The Bengals are the first team ever to score thirty

2344
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:31,280
Speaker 3: eight points in back to back weeks and still lose

2345
01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:33,920
Speaker 3: both games. We were talking about this, Bro.

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01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:36,000
Speaker 4: That has to just I mean, you saw it on

2347
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:41,120
Speaker 4: everybody's face, but just the morale death that just happens

2348
01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 4: when it's like the defense just one possession.

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Speaker 3: We were talking about this in our pre pro meeting

2350
01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:53,640
Speaker 3: conversation to be had about Joe Flacco in the MVP conversation.

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01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:56,960
Speaker 1: Per Mitch per Mitch, Yeah, I mean, hey, if you

2352
01:45:57,040 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 1: if we didn't make an envy like a senior m VP,

2353
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:02,840
Speaker 1: if we get like the top five NFL players, will

2354
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:05,120
Speaker 1: be like, this is our guy this year. That needs

2355
01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:06,920
Speaker 1: to be a thing because Joe Flacco was doing things.

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01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:09,360
Speaker 1: Because what was thet be better than Brady at this age?

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Speaker 4: What was the stat that was just said thirty first

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01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:13,720
Speaker 4: team to score over thirty eight two weeks in a

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01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:16,120
Speaker 4: row and they lose, Like, if you're gonna be the

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01:46:16,160 --> 01:46:18,800
Speaker 4: mv Like, even if we hypothetically play this game of

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Speaker 4: Joe Flacco be in the m v P, like the

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01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:23,479
Speaker 4: Bengals would still be turned around and coming back in

2363
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:24,559
Speaker 4: like winning games.

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01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:26,639
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't say, like, Bro, they won the game.

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01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:29,960
Speaker 3: They're putting up exactly, They're putting up thirty eight points,

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01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:32,880
Speaker 3: Like you would like to think scoring thirty eight points,

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01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:35,479
Speaker 3: you're gonna win every game, every game.

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01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:37,760
Speaker 4: Joe b didn't win the m v P last year,

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01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:39,760
Speaker 4: and that was the entire story of the season, just

2370
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:40,679
Speaker 4: he doesn't have a defense.

2371
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:42,120
Speaker 2: If he had a defense he'd be walking.

2372
01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:44,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, And honestly, I think there's an argument. I think

2373
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:47,200
Speaker 1: Joey b should have won it, like his numbers.

2374
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:49,640
Speaker 2: Who's been on the team the entire time, like he

2375
01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:51,120
Speaker 2: was also on the Browns.

2376
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:54,639
Speaker 1: Listen, at the end of the day, we're talking about

2377
01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:56,680
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco winning the MVP, which I know is not

2378
01:46:56,720 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 1: the case.

2379
01:46:57,080 --> 01:46:57,799
Speaker 3: It's a conversation.

2380
01:46:57,960 --> 01:47:00,760
Speaker 1: It's a conversation. I do think Joe Burrow should have

2381
01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:02,920
Speaker 1: won the MVP last year because it's like who's the

2382
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:06,559
Speaker 1: most like the most valuable player, and Joe Burrow, after

2383
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:09,280
Speaker 1: going what three and five or whatever their record was,

2384
01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:11,280
Speaker 1: like ends up being like one or two games away

2385
01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:13,760
Speaker 1: from getting into the playoffs. Like without Joe Burrow, that

2386
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:18,840
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. Joe Flacco, buddy, he is incredible. To where

2387
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:21,800
Speaker 1: we put so much on the Cowboys defense, it's like

2388
01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:24,439
Speaker 1: it's kind of muzzled and we've kind of forgot about

2389
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:26,880
Speaker 1: the Bengals defense. The Bengals defense, there needs to be

2390
01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:29,080
Speaker 1: an indictment in all of them. Every single guy out

2391
01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:32,080
Speaker 1: there needs to be questioned. Well, the difference is the

2392
01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:35,759
Speaker 1: Bengals being the AFC North. Everybody's talking about the Ravens comeback.

2393
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:38,599
Speaker 1: Steelers kind of have the division right now at the moment.

2394
01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:41,480
Speaker 1: And then with the with the Cowboys. Like the Cowboys,

2395
01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:45,920
Speaker 1: they're still in conversations of the division. They're not everybody

2396
01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:49,439
Speaker 1: is everybody else convinced? I guess we can be convinced

2397
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:50,080
Speaker 1: of the Eagles.

2398
01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:50,840
Speaker 2: The Eagles.

2399
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:53,920
Speaker 1: The Eagles are of all the of all the divisions,

2400
01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:56,880
Speaker 1: the Eagles are the most clearly going to win their

2401
01:47:56,880 --> 01:48:03,200
Speaker 1: division most clearly. The Commanders just lost it. Commanders just

2402
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:07,280
Speaker 1: lost bad and their quarterback when they was thirty eight

2403
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:08,920
Speaker 1: to seven and he's still in the game with seven

2404
01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:13,320
Speaker 1: minutes left. The Cowboys defense is horrendous. And if they

2405
01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:15,200
Speaker 1: play all their games at home, yeah, I could see

2406
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:16,920
Speaker 1: the Cowboys making it to the playoffs. They score forty

2407
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:18,639
Speaker 1: two points a game when they're at home. And then

2408
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 1: there's the Giants Science who just lost camp and it's like, yeah, yeah,

2409
01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:25,360
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart who put up twenty four points last game.

2410
01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:28,160
Speaker 1: But it's it's the forty nine Ers who have all

2411
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 1: their first team out, who are literally down the most

2412
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:33,760
Speaker 1: people in all of the NFL that that division is

2413
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:37,800
Speaker 1: it's over. And I feel very comfortable saying that that

2414
01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:38,880
Speaker 1: division is done.

2415
01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:43,639
Speaker 4: Weeks ago, you were buying the Cowboys. You're like this team, right.

2416
01:48:43,479 --> 01:48:45,960
Speaker 1: And they broke my fucking heart. Will? All right, I

2417
01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:48,639
Speaker 1: sat there, I did the whole girlfriend thing. We dated,

2418
01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:50,559
Speaker 1: I fell in love. I said I love you first.

2419
01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:52,400
Speaker 1: You know what they said back to me, thank you.

2420
01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:54,400
Speaker 1: Turns out they were cheating on me with a hotter guy.

2421
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:56,639
Speaker 1: Like that is the feeling I have for the Cowboys

2422
01:48:56,720 --> 01:49:00,559
Speaker 1: right now. Your offense is a championship caliber offense at home,

2423
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:02,879
Speaker 1: you're a different team when you're away. And your defense,

2424
01:49:03,080 --> 01:49:06,160
Speaker 1: regardless if your home, we're away, you're bad. That's how

2425
01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 1: it is. That's point blank.

2426
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:09,800
Speaker 2: I just don't think it's Philly's like the most clear

2427
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:10,960
Speaker 2: cut division winner.

2428
01:49:11,320 --> 01:49:13,920
Speaker 1: I like, it's like I did just say that, pulled

2429
01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:16,160
Speaker 1: the divisions. Pull the divisions.

2430
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:18,760
Speaker 2: You got the Bucks and it's Falcons Panthers that are

2431
01:49:18,800 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 2: behind them.

2432
01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:23,439
Speaker 1: Colts have the game they do. It's like the Jags

2433
01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:25,200
Speaker 1: and Hugh like, Will is not willing to go rom

2434
01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:27,240
Speaker 1: the Texans so that that you throw them out the window.

2435
01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:30,639
Speaker 1: AFC West obviously is not just the Broncos are running

2436
01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:34,600
Speaker 1: with it. Uh, the North, that's it. That's gonna be

2437
01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:36,840
Speaker 1: a shit show. The Bengals should be in that conversation

2438
01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:39,360
Speaker 1: these last two games, but their defense sucks so bad.

2439
01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:41,880
Speaker 1: The East, it's Patriots.

2440
01:49:41,479 --> 01:49:44,080
Speaker 2: And Bills all right now.

2441
01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:48,439
Speaker 1: NFC East Eagles clearly okay, go down. NFC North, we

2442
01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:50,360
Speaker 1: have no idea who's gonna win that division.

2443
01:49:50,439 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 8: And breaking news confirmed test reports Tucker Kraft torn Aco. Oh,

2444
01:49:56,520 --> 01:49:58,760
Speaker 8: very sad news for the boy and he was on

2445
01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:00,000
Speaker 8: pace for a really history.

2446
01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:02,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, people were saying best tight in the NFL. Yeah,

2447
01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 1: that is heartbreaking. Should we have a moment of silence

2448
01:50:06,320 --> 01:50:07,919
Speaker 1: for dark Craft? Hats off.

2449
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:15,360
Speaker 2: Beer Olympics alumni. We love you Tucker, We.

2450
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:19,360
Speaker 1: Love you, Tucker Dog. That is heartbreaking, heartbreaking.

2451
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:21,320
Speaker 2: NFC West is up in the air. But look at

2452
01:50:21,320 --> 01:50:22,400
Speaker 2: the NFC South.

2453
01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:27,000
Speaker 1: NFC South, Yeah that that's a great argument, is the

2454
01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:29,400
Speaker 1: NFC South. Yeah, that's a great that's a that's going

2455
01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:32,000
Speaker 1: But it's like the Bucks are, that the Panthers are

2456
01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:35,280
Speaker 1: weirdly sneaky, that the Falcons are like the most inconsistent

2457
01:50:35,320 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 1: team in all of the NFL. But like you could

2458
01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:40,120
Speaker 1: see some shit going down, especially with Tampa Bay being

2459
01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:41,960
Speaker 1: as injured as they are, they might drop a couple

2460
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:44,880
Speaker 1: and might get weird in December. That's the argument there.

2461
01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:46,639
Speaker 1: I do think the Bucks walk away with that division

2462
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:49,599
Speaker 1: NFC NFC West, we don't even need to have a conversation.

2463
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:51,920
Speaker 1: That's a that's a three way race right now, is

2464
01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:54,600
Speaker 1: that it? It's like, if you're looking at all of

2465
01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:57,160
Speaker 1: these divisions, we can all sit here in confee be

2466
01:50:57,240 --> 01:50:59,559
Speaker 1: like the Eagles are going to win the NFC East.

2467
01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:03,840
Speaker 1: That is I'm going I'm willing to put responsibly my

2468
01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:04,519
Speaker 1: mortgage on it.

2469
01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:10,080
Speaker 5: Responsible Where the Cowboys just rain hell tonight next week,

2470
01:51:10,080 --> 01:51:11,280
Speaker 5: You're gonna be like the cowboy.

2471
01:51:11,320 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 1: No, I can't do that again. And if I do

2472
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:15,600
Speaker 1: do that, that's when your boys, when you're always in

2473
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:17,479
Speaker 1: a TALKX relationship, like you got to sit them down

2474
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:19,720
Speaker 1: and you guys say, be like Taylor, listen, you did

2475
01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:22,880
Speaker 1: this two weeks ago, don't do this again. And Derek, honestly,

2476
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:24,280
Speaker 1: I'm looking at you, gotta be the guy to get

2477
01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:29,120
Speaker 1: me on that one pinky promise done because I am

2478
01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:31,360
Speaker 1: a cat, I'm a hopeless romantic. I will fall for

2479
01:51:31,400 --> 01:51:33,200
Speaker 1: that traff again. You see me with the Steelers.

2480
01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:35,599
Speaker 9: I'm in the same relationship right now, but I don't

2481
01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:36,519
Speaker 9: want anyone to tell me.

2482
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:37,680
Speaker 2: To get away from the relationship.

2483
01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:38,479
Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing.

2484
01:51:38,479 --> 01:51:40,240
Speaker 9: I'll sign up for it, but I'll protect you from

2485
01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:41,160
Speaker 9: what you're about to get into.

2486
01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:43,439
Speaker 1: I can respect that. And Mitch, I didn't ask you,

2487
01:51:43,479 --> 01:51:44,960
Speaker 1: but I got you a seasonal bevy. I got it

2488
01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:45,880
Speaker 1: hot though. Is that okay?

2489
01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:47,240
Speaker 7: Whatever works?

2490
01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:47,559
Speaker 1: Cool?

2491
01:51:47,600 --> 01:51:47,760
Speaker 10: Hey?

2492
01:51:47,840 --> 01:51:49,960
Speaker 1: Also, don't sleep yours whole milk, thank you.

2493
01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:52,080
Speaker 8: Do not sleep on what it is being called potentially

2494
01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:55,759
Speaker 8: the biggest game of the season Week seventeen Titan Saints

2495
01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:57,360
Speaker 8: for the first round of the draft pick.

2496
01:51:57,479 --> 01:51:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't say it's.

2497
01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:01,320
Speaker 1: What we all want, dude, It's what we all said

2498
01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:01,599
Speaker 1: on Twitter.

2499
01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:04,320
Speaker 8: It's either going to be a six to three or

2500
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:06,639
Speaker 8: eighty five to eighty seven final score.

2501
01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:10,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll see if JP.

2502
01:52:10,439 --> 01:52:13,600
Speaker 2: What happened to Rattler? Man, what do you mean he

2503
01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:18,120
Speaker 2: got bench last year? Benched? Yeah, we talked about this

2504
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:20,479
Speaker 2: last week, I know, on the on the bus.

2505
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:23,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh but yeah, tell us dude, Yeah.

2506
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:26,880
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, it's it's unfortunate there was the

2507
01:52:26,920 --> 01:52:30,200
Speaker 6: wrong move, But I hope Spencer Ratler ends up. JJ

2508
01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:33,240
Speaker 6: McCarthy had an amazing game, but he would be nice

2509
01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:37,479
Speaker 6: in a Minnesota in the backup role if he comes

2510
01:52:37,479 --> 01:52:41,799
Speaker 6: in that's somebody that coached coach McConnell could have dialed,

2511
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:44,960
Speaker 6: because yeah, I mean the Saints will see the Saints

2512
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:47,760
Speaker 6: probably won't win another game. Like, I don't know if

2513
01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:49,920
Speaker 6: y'all watch their game at all this week.

2514
01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:52,320
Speaker 1: First of rams, I had it on for until it

2515
01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:52,960
Speaker 1: was twenty seven.

2516
01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:55,680
Speaker 6: I was like it was horrible. Yeah, Like the only

2517
01:52:55,720 --> 01:52:57,519
Speaker 6: way they moved the ball was some like a roughing

2518
01:52:57,520 --> 01:53:02,599
Speaker 6: the passer penalty that led to a touchdown and Taysom

2519
01:53:02,680 --> 01:53:08,120
Speaker 6: hill Hey had their biggest play of the game. It

2520
01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:09,960
Speaker 6: was a bad it's a bad move by the Saints,

2521
01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:12,719
Speaker 6: and it's if you you took Schuck in the second round.

2522
01:53:12,920 --> 01:53:15,639
Speaker 6: You see the way your season is going. The last

2523
01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:17,200
Speaker 6: thing you really want to do, if you do think

2524
01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:19,880
Speaker 6: he's your future, is get the fan base against him

2525
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:23,160
Speaker 6: in this season and because nothing's gonna go good.

2526
01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:25,599
Speaker 1: You should have kept Rattler out there. Man, should have kept.

2527
01:53:25,439 --> 01:53:28,200
Speaker 6: Absolutely because now they like, you can't go back to

2528
01:53:28,240 --> 01:53:29,559
Speaker 6: him if you're the Saints, right, Like.

2529
01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:34,200
Speaker 1: It's a long season. I never know that one win

2530
01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:38,400
Speaker 1: situation to just keep doing your thing. Man, Like, I

2531
01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:40,160
Speaker 1: think whatever the Saints want to do, we just kind

2532
01:53:40,160 --> 01:53:42,439
Speaker 1: of let him do We don't judge anything from here

2533
01:53:42,479 --> 01:53:46,000
Speaker 1: on out. Titans though, Titans Saints. If it's so clear

2534
01:53:46,720 --> 01:53:48,439
Speaker 1: that these are the two teams that are gonna fight

2535
01:53:48,479 --> 01:53:51,519
Speaker 1: for the for the number one draft pick, I feel

2536
01:53:51,560 --> 01:53:53,360
Speaker 1: like there needs to be an executive order that the

2537
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 1: winner of that game gets the number one draft pick.

2538
01:53:57,040 --> 01:54:00,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, Oh that would happen? Would happen?

2539
01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:04,800
Speaker 1: Could it? Who did pull up the Jets schedule real quick?

2540
01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:07,280
Speaker 4: If you don't mind, because I mean, buddy, you put

2541
01:54:07,320 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 4: any they want. I mean, unless they're playing each other,

2542
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:13,200
Speaker 4: like justin field.

2543
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:17,080
Speaker 1: I could see them sneaking the Browns, the Dolphins. Yeah,

2544
01:54:17,120 --> 01:54:20,760
Speaker 1: they got the Dolphins. Who knows about the Jags too? Man,

2545
01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:24,599
Speaker 1: I just don't know what's going to that huge game,

2546
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:29,160
Speaker 1: mad game Saints last two of three they got, they

2547
01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:30,479
Speaker 1: got a chance to fuck it all up.

2548
01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, December, the last three weeks could.

2549
01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:36,280
Speaker 6: Tell a lot rattler in the last three weeks, go

2550
01:54:36,440 --> 01:54:36,760
Speaker 6: three and.

2551
01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:39,600
Speaker 1: Now that would mess up everything.

2552
01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:42,800
Speaker 6: He will be a starter in the NFL again. I'll

2553
01:54:42,840 --> 01:54:43,520
Speaker 6: say that he.

2554
01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:46,160
Speaker 1: Just guts he has to go to Minnesota. Do we

2555
01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:50,800
Speaker 1: think JJ's back to dude against the Lions.

2556
01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's at the line. It was like yards

2557
01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:56,320
Speaker 2: like he made the place through for.

2558
01:54:56,360 --> 01:54:59,520
Speaker 1: Two touchdowns, ran for one, like committed. He like didn't

2559
01:54:59,560 --> 01:55:01,600
Speaker 1: look long, he didn't look lost. I'll say that.

2560
01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:09,280
Speaker 2: Crying, no raging. Oh he was using that Dan Lanning

2561
01:55:10,160 --> 01:55:11,160
Speaker 2: love his mentality.

2562
01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:12,960
Speaker 3: I mean that throw to ice the game.

2563
01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:15,760
Speaker 2: Yes, beautiful on real throat.

2564
01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:20,440
Speaker 1: Wonder was it? There was one that Addison Jefferson he

2565
01:55:20,640 --> 01:55:23,600
Speaker 1: threw it under the dB and like it was beautiful.

2566
01:55:23,800 --> 01:55:25,400
Speaker 2: He had a beautiful ball to in the end zone

2567
01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:25,879
Speaker 2: to Addison.

2568
01:55:26,120 --> 01:55:28,480
Speaker 1: Yeah you come up with Yeah, Addison dropped right.

2569
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:32,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's showing sparks. But it's just like you need.

2570
01:55:32,240 --> 01:55:35,600
Speaker 2: Obviously, I can't believe the Vikings beat the Lights at Detroit.

2571
01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:36,120
Speaker 2: I know.

2572
01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:39,600
Speaker 1: May It just makes you question everything because I'm I

2573
01:55:39,640 --> 01:55:42,000
Speaker 1: still think the Lions are the best team.

2574
01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:45,000
Speaker 4: Weirdly enough, the Rams and Seattle play, Yes, I mean

2575
01:55:45,080 --> 01:55:45,720
Speaker 4: I guess.

2576
01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:49,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I will. I will be by the Seattle Seahawks.

2577
01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:50,480
Speaker 1: I will buy that.

2578
01:55:52,040 --> 01:55:52,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2579
01:55:52,760 --> 01:55:55,600
Speaker 1: J s n is unbelieved. How was he open all

2580
01:55:55,640 --> 01:55:56,400
Speaker 1: the time.

2581
01:55:57,560 --> 01:56:01,040
Speaker 6: And pooka bro like I did his game. This was

2582
01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:03,640
Speaker 6: his first game back from the injury, and I don't

2583
01:56:03,640 --> 01:56:06,480
Speaker 6: know if y'all saw the pass like his first touchdown

2584
01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:09,880
Speaker 6: catch oh my, the the ball was a dime, but

2585
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:13,520
Speaker 6: the catch was just absurd, like almost double coverage, late

2586
01:56:13,600 --> 01:56:16,280
Speaker 6: hands right on the front side of the pylon. Like

2587
01:56:17,160 --> 01:56:18,280
Speaker 6: it looks unfair.

2588
01:56:19,160 --> 01:56:22,760
Speaker 5: Getting like plus twenty points in Fantasy each on the

2589
01:56:22,800 --> 01:56:23,560
Speaker 5: same team.

2590
01:56:23,640 --> 01:56:24,080
Speaker 2: Are nice?

2591
01:56:24,600 --> 01:56:25,080
Speaker 1: Are nice?

2592
01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:30,880
Speaker 4: Stafford's conversation Sammy d Drake May there's going to be

2593
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:31,360
Speaker 4: the three.

2594
01:56:32,680 --> 01:56:35,480
Speaker 2: Ship. Josh Donald'll still be in it.

2595
01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:37,560
Speaker 1: Breaks my heart with Daniel will still be in it.

2596
01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:39,720
Speaker 1: This could be the end of Daniel Jones.

2597
01:56:42,680 --> 01:56:46,080
Speaker 2: Kidding, I'm just kidding, but that is a game where

2598
01:56:46,080 --> 01:56:47,680
Speaker 2: people just throw that. You know.

2599
01:56:47,720 --> 01:56:49,880
Speaker 4: It's like if if Mahomes or Josh Allen had a

2600
01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:51,920
Speaker 4: game like that, people would write them off that quickly.

2601
01:56:52,240 --> 01:56:55,960
Speaker 4: I think Colt's losing like that and Daniel Jones having

2602
01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:57,520
Speaker 4: three picks, it'll be quick.

2603
01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:01,880
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, you know, I'm ready to say, yeah,

2604
01:57:02,080 --> 01:57:02,720
Speaker 2: overrated you.

2605
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:05,040
Speaker 1: I saw your tweets saying maybe I was right. I

2606
01:57:05,080 --> 01:57:09,160
Speaker 1: was like, God, damn it. That made me and also

2607
01:57:09,240 --> 01:57:12,240
Speaker 1: like people, Patrick Mahomes had his worst completion percentage of

2608
01:57:12,280 --> 01:57:12,720
Speaker 1: his career.

2609
01:57:15,240 --> 01:57:18,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he had the ball, had the ball left.

2610
01:57:19,600 --> 01:57:20,880
Speaker 1: That's why you need a good run game.

2611
01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:22,080
Speaker 2: Something to keep an eye on.

2612
01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:26,760
Speaker 1: Greg. Greg by the way he's talking like we're essentially

2613
01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:30,560
Speaker 1: having the same argument. Like yeah, Like he's saying, like

2614
01:57:31,200 --> 01:57:32,880
Speaker 1: the run game is good, but you can't just have

2615
01:57:32,920 --> 01:57:35,320
Speaker 1: a run game. I'm saying the run game compliments the past,

2616
01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:38,440
Speaker 1: and that's what helps your pass game to the ball.

2617
01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:40,480
Speaker 1: You gotta be able to do both. And if you

2618
01:57:40,520 --> 01:57:42,480
Speaker 1: have a good run game, it's easier to throw the ball.

2619
01:57:42,560 --> 01:57:44,600
Speaker 1: That's all I'm trying to say out here, all right.

2620
01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:51,840
Speaker 4: Taylor saying out outside zone left like that boy, Taylor

2621
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:54,920
Speaker 4: just talking directly from his own experience of you run

2622
01:57:54,960 --> 01:57:55,520
Speaker 4: the ball.

2623
01:57:55,480 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 1: You're able to run if you're able to run left.

2624
01:57:58,480 --> 01:58:01,040
Speaker 1: You able to run left if you can if you

2625
01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:04,040
Speaker 1: can run a run, play and have the same exact

2626
01:58:04,120 --> 01:58:07,120
Speaker 1: action and a play action play dude, and be successful

2627
01:58:07,120 --> 01:58:09,240
Speaker 1: in the run game. You're going to win a lot.

2628
01:58:09,280 --> 01:58:11,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna score a lot of points. Yeah, You're gonna

2629
01:58:11,400 --> 01:58:14,120
Speaker 1: score a lot of points. Yeah, that's all I'm trying

2630
01:58:14,120 --> 01:58:14,440
Speaker 1: to say.

2631
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:17,280
Speaker 4: Uh, any more college football talk a JP. I see

2632
01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:18,320
Speaker 4: you guys fired the OC.

2633
01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:23,320
Speaker 6: Mike make some moves something about fire and OC just

2634
01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:26,880
Speaker 6: breeze life into a fan base. Why not go three

2635
01:58:26,920 --> 01:58:28,000
Speaker 6: and oh and make a bowl.

2636
01:58:27,760 --> 01:58:28,840
Speaker 2: Game why not?

2637
01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:31,200
Speaker 6: And I mean I would not want to be Texas

2638
01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:34,480
Speaker 6: A and M We got them this week. Well we

2639
01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:36,160
Speaker 6: got to buy That's what That's what I'm trying to say.

2640
01:58:36,200 --> 01:58:39,600
Speaker 6: That's what I'm trying to tell you you. The game

2641
01:58:39,640 --> 01:58:42,440
Speaker 6: Cocks are going into College Station off of bye Yeah,

2642
01:58:42,480 --> 01:58:45,920
Speaker 6: with probably co offensive coordinators. Yeah, good luck game planning

2643
01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:46,240
Speaker 6: for that.

2644
01:58:47,480 --> 01:58:49,160
Speaker 1: You know, you bring up the mirror theory of the

2645
01:58:49,160 --> 01:58:50,560
Speaker 1: locker room. They should have like one of the you know,

2646
01:58:50,600 --> 01:58:52,360
Speaker 1: the carnivals when you walk into those rooms and there's

2647
01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:54,400
Speaker 1: mirrors everywhere, there's a bunch of different angles of you.

2648
01:58:54,880 --> 01:58:57,120
Speaker 1: That's the move in the locker room this week. Correct,

2649
01:58:57,200 --> 01:58:59,840
Speaker 1: Just all mirrors everywhere. You can't look anywhere without looking back.

2650
01:58:59,720 --> 01:59:03,960
Speaker 6: At your dude, I saw fire up all the headset.

2651
01:59:04,520 --> 01:59:05,080
Speaker 2: The headset.

2652
01:59:05,800 --> 01:59:07,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're like, can somebody tell me who Mike is?

2653
01:59:07,840 --> 01:59:09,360
Speaker 2: Because you guys are close there for a minute.

2654
01:59:09,400 --> 01:59:13,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, what's Oh yeah, dude, it was oh my gosh.

2655
01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:15,640
Speaker 6: We we made a stop and we were going to

2656
01:59:15,680 --> 01:59:17,960
Speaker 6: get the ball back. I think it was fourteen seventeen.

2657
01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:23,040
Speaker 6: They punt it, muffed the punt. Oh, we hold him.

2658
01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:26,680
Speaker 6: They're down there at our five. Our defense played incredible.

2659
01:59:27,080 --> 01:59:32,720
Speaker 6: We hold them punt and it's just like man or Yeah,

2660
01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:35,200
Speaker 6: like I guess they kicked the field goal. We just

2661
01:59:35,240 --> 01:59:37,760
Speaker 6: do nothing with our drive. We rank in the bottom

2662
01:59:37,840 --> 01:59:40,280
Speaker 6: like five teams of offense in college football.

2663
01:59:40,840 --> 01:59:41,520
Speaker 1: Heartbreaking.

2664
01:59:41,880 --> 01:59:42,720
Speaker 6: But now he's gone.

2665
01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:45,720
Speaker 1: So now top five for the last three weeks.

2666
01:59:45,760 --> 01:59:48,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, top five, top five three weeks. Classic.

2667
01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:50,000
Speaker 2: Do you think?

2668
01:59:50,360 --> 01:59:52,040
Speaker 1: Do you think you guys are the nail the coffin

2669
01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:52,480
Speaker 1: for Dabbo?

2670
01:59:53,680 --> 01:59:53,920
Speaker 2: No?

2671
01:59:53,920 --> 01:59:55,840
Speaker 6: No, he'll be there next year for sure. But I

2672
01:59:55,880 --> 01:59:58,200
Speaker 6: was at that Clemson game and you want to talk

2673
01:59:58,200 --> 02:00:01,760
Speaker 6: about some fireworks though the offenses were going nuts, and

2674
02:00:01,800 --> 02:00:04,240
Speaker 6: if you're a Clemson fan, you're sick that we fired

2675
02:00:04,280 --> 02:00:07,000
Speaker 6: Tchula because that was probably the only hope they had

2676
02:00:07,440 --> 02:00:11,440
Speaker 6: to be us. But it was, Yeah, that was Dabo

2677
02:00:11,480 --> 02:00:13,600
Speaker 6: did not fall down the hill. I was. That's one

2678
02:00:13,640 --> 02:00:16,080
Speaker 6: of the main reasons I went the season's going bad.

2679
02:00:16,160 --> 02:00:20,000
Speaker 6: There's a chance it's the ultimate image of their season.

2680
02:00:20,040 --> 02:00:23,120
Speaker 6: If Dabo finally trips going down the hill. No injuries,

2681
02:00:23,560 --> 02:00:25,400
Speaker 6: but you know he likes to run fast down there

2682
02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:27,600
Speaker 6: and do his thing. And I was so far ahead

2683
02:00:28,120 --> 02:00:29,640
Speaker 6: I wanted to be sure I was there in case

2684
02:00:29,680 --> 02:00:30,400
Speaker 6: he did fall.

2685
02:00:30,560 --> 02:00:31,320
Speaker 2: Are we talking?

2686
02:00:31,440 --> 02:00:34,440
Speaker 4: You'd like to see something where it's lighting up to

2687
02:00:34,440 --> 02:00:35,440
Speaker 4: where he's just in a boot.

2688
02:00:36,080 --> 02:00:39,080
Speaker 6: Yeah boot would be fine, boot for a week or two. Yeah,

2689
02:00:39,120 --> 02:00:41,200
Speaker 6: but he could pull off just a roll where you know,

2690
02:00:41,240 --> 02:00:42,560
Speaker 6: you kind of bounce back up. I know he's a

2691
02:00:42,560 --> 02:00:47,840
Speaker 6: little bit older now, yeah, but something just to.

2692
02:00:46,760 --> 02:00:48,880
Speaker 2: Slow him down that run down the hill.

2693
02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:52,280
Speaker 1: I hate that. I absolutely hate that.

2694
02:00:52,440 --> 02:00:54,600
Speaker 6: I just post the video not really thinking much of it,

2695
02:00:54,600 --> 02:00:56,040
Speaker 6: and then I after the game, I look and it

2696
02:00:56,040 --> 02:00:59,120
Speaker 6: has like a million views. Everyone's just hating him.

2697
02:00:59,400 --> 02:01:04,280
Speaker 1: It's like perfect, Yeah, dude, Dabbo saying I don't know

2698
02:01:04,320 --> 02:01:05,120
Speaker 1: if I'll get fired.

2699
02:01:05,840 --> 02:01:09,800
Speaker 6: I mean that was yeah, which if you're Clemson now

2700
02:01:09,880 --> 02:01:12,080
Speaker 6: you would want to see that because the defense just

2701
02:01:12,160 --> 02:01:14,880
Speaker 6: completely fumbled. But him saying that in front of the

2702
02:01:14,920 --> 02:01:18,440
Speaker 6: athletic director is just one of the more arrogant moves

2703
02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:20,560
Speaker 6: you can make, and not a good.

2704
02:01:20,400 --> 02:01:23,800
Speaker 1: Move doing his posturing game. But he's an uncharted territory,

2705
02:01:23,840 --> 02:01:25,880
Speaker 1: is what he is. Like, he's never had this kind

2706
02:01:25,880 --> 02:01:28,080
Speaker 1: of fire on him before, I know, and he's trying

2707
02:01:28,080 --> 02:01:30,280
Speaker 1: to figure out what move is the best move, and

2708
02:01:30,280 --> 02:01:32,360
Speaker 1: he's he's going about it multiple different ways, and he

2709
02:01:32,400 --> 02:01:34,520
Speaker 1: won't just pick a lane, like pick a lane and

2710
02:01:34,520 --> 02:01:37,200
Speaker 1: stick with it, because buddy, you're making it look way worse.

2711
02:01:37,240 --> 02:01:38,600
Speaker 6: Medium was so quiet?

2712
02:01:38,960 --> 02:01:40,120
Speaker 2: Was it really crazy?

2713
02:01:40,200 --> 02:01:42,360
Speaker 1: Do you think the where's the game this year? South Carolina?

2714
02:01:42,400 --> 02:01:43,520
Speaker 6: Clemson, South Carolina?

2715
02:01:44,520 --> 02:01:47,480
Speaker 1: Loud, no matter low, no matter what. You guys have

2716
02:01:47,600 --> 02:01:48,320
Speaker 1: been here before.

2717
02:01:48,640 --> 02:01:50,760
Speaker 6: We've lost twenty two games in a row before.

2718
02:01:52,920 --> 02:01:53,240
Speaker 1: Us ship.

2719
02:01:53,520 --> 02:01:55,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, what are we talking about?

2720
02:01:55,080 --> 02:01:55,400
Speaker 2: You guys?

2721
02:01:55,880 --> 02:01:56,520
Speaker 6: He lost?

2722
02:01:57,960 --> 02:02:00,280
Speaker 1: You guys are it's a movie? You guys got I'm

2723
02:02:00,280 --> 02:02:03,240
Speaker 1: not scared of this. Yeah, got up to your head? Yeah, bro,

2724
02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:05,320
Speaker 1: that is crazy. Crazy.

2725
02:02:05,400 --> 02:02:06,920
Speaker 2: Oregon goes to Iowa this week.

2726
02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:12,760
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a spicy game. Dan Lanning not going nowhere,

2727
02:02:12,840 --> 02:02:14,360
Speaker 1: he says, not going anywhere.

2728
02:02:14,800 --> 02:02:16,360
Speaker 3: Kirk Farn's talking ship to Lanning.

2729
02:02:17,680 --> 02:02:18,400
Speaker 1: Do you hear about that?

2730
02:02:19,120 --> 02:02:22,000
Speaker 2: I heard there's some text from you.

2731
02:02:21,960 --> 02:02:24,000
Speaker 1: Don't want to wait to the locker room, wait to

2732
02:02:24,040 --> 02:02:24,520
Speaker 1: the locker room.

2733
02:02:24,560 --> 02:02:27,760
Speaker 2: We save that for the locker room talk. Save that

2734
02:02:27,800 --> 02:02:28,760
Speaker 2: for the locker room talk.

2735
02:02:29,840 --> 02:02:34,040
Speaker 1: God, I'll tell you what, dude, Justice Hayes having surgery

2736
02:02:34,080 --> 02:02:35,440
Speaker 1: on his foot kind of breaks my heart.

2737
02:02:35,640 --> 02:02:37,320
Speaker 6: The other guy bought out though, Jah Jordan.

2738
02:02:37,880 --> 02:02:40,600
Speaker 1: I mean, one thing's for sure, Mission's gonna run the football,

2739
02:02:41,320 --> 02:02:45,000
Speaker 1: run the football, play good defense. But I just want

2740
02:02:46,240 --> 02:02:49,040
Speaker 1: I just need that passing and like I truly believe

2741
02:02:49,040 --> 02:02:52,880
Speaker 1: in Bryce Underwood. I just there was four or five

2742
02:02:52,920 --> 02:02:56,200
Speaker 1: plays there where it's a completely different stat line that

2743
02:02:56,360 --> 02:02:58,840
Speaker 1: I was. I've already said this. I'm doubling down because

2744
02:02:58,840 --> 02:03:00,920
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about it too much. Is like that

2745
02:03:01,080 --> 02:03:02,760
Speaker 1: was that should have been the game plan. Let him

2746
02:03:02,760 --> 02:03:07,640
Speaker 1: throw the ball and buddy, it's just a couple of reads,

2747
02:03:07,960 --> 02:03:08,960
Speaker 1: a couple of misses.

2748
02:03:10,840 --> 02:03:15,320
Speaker 2: Twenty six though, and going to Miszoo a big game.

2749
02:03:15,400 --> 02:03:20,240
Speaker 2: That's a big game. Uh, Georgia Tech loss?

2750
02:03:20,320 --> 02:03:23,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, what is going on?

2751
02:03:23,680 --> 02:03:26,880
Speaker 6: The ACC just they're just trying to ruin the College

2752
02:03:26,880 --> 02:03:28,040
Speaker 6: Football playoff.

2753
02:03:28,640 --> 02:03:30,440
Speaker 2: That I feel like that's a positive.

2754
02:03:30,840 --> 02:03:32,919
Speaker 1: That's a that's a that's a win for the playoff.

2755
02:03:33,480 --> 02:03:35,080
Speaker 2: I think that's a win for the We need a

2756
02:03:35,160 --> 02:03:36,920
Speaker 2: CC team to start losing.

2757
02:03:37,920 --> 02:03:42,040
Speaker 5: And Tech lost Louisville and Virginia.

2758
02:03:41,600 --> 02:03:44,600
Speaker 3: One, so Virginia is like top fifteen right now.

2759
02:03:44,680 --> 02:03:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Bro, you know what, dude, if the ACC kind

2760
02:03:48,520 --> 02:03:51,280
Speaker 1: of messes around and everyone's kind of got like two

2761
02:03:51,320 --> 02:03:55,200
Speaker 1: three losses everywhere, could we be looking at a nine

2762
02:03:55,240 --> 02:03:57,560
Speaker 1: to three Nebraska Cornhusker team in the playoffs.

2763
02:03:57,800 --> 02:03:59,720
Speaker 2: No, listen, I ain't gonna talk to that type of

2764
02:04:00,320 --> 02:04:00,680
Speaker 2: right now.

2765
02:04:01,920 --> 02:04:07,960
Speaker 1: Hey, the CEEC fucks around that much. SEC's kind of

2766
02:04:07,960 --> 02:04:10,240
Speaker 1: beating each other up every single in every place, like

2767
02:04:10,560 --> 02:04:13,280
Speaker 1: a m is probably gonna make it, Alabama's gonna make it,

2768
02:04:13,320 --> 02:04:15,280
Speaker 1: Georgia is gonna make it? Who else?

2769
02:04:15,400 --> 02:04:17,480
Speaker 5: Texas?

2770
02:04:17,720 --> 02:04:23,120
Speaker 1: Texas? Just Big twelve gets the all the best teams

2771
02:04:23,120 --> 02:04:24,400
Speaker 1: play each other at the end of the year.

2772
02:04:25,320 --> 02:04:28,840
Speaker 4: Goswell playoff rankings. The first ones come out tomorrow.

2773
02:04:31,040 --> 02:04:31,760
Speaker 10: And Green.

2774
02:04:33,320 --> 02:04:36,440
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting. Boys. This next couple of weeks

2775
02:04:36,440 --> 02:04:37,960
Speaker 1: are gonna be awesome.

2776
02:04:38,680 --> 02:04:40,680
Speaker 3: It's gonna be awesome. But how depressing is it that

2777
02:04:40,720 --> 02:04:41,880
Speaker 3: we only have three weeks left?

2778
02:04:42,120 --> 02:04:45,520
Speaker 1: Pretty depressing? It is pretty sid.

2779
02:04:49,480 --> 02:04:49,760
Speaker 2: Dude.

2780
02:04:49,840 --> 02:04:51,520
Speaker 1: But you know the thing is is like, right after

2781
02:04:51,560 --> 02:04:54,040
Speaker 1: the season is over, we're all it's transfer portal, It's

2782
02:04:54,040 --> 02:04:57,520
Speaker 1: we're getting this guy. What's happening? Like that's equally as

2783
02:04:57,520 --> 02:05:01,640
Speaker 1: fun of a game getting everybody. I'm not thinking, I'm hoping.

2784
02:05:02,560 --> 02:05:05,240
Speaker 1: I'm not thinking, bro. I truly am just like sitting

2785
02:05:05,280 --> 02:05:08,000
Speaker 1: there and being like, man, if we just had every day,

2786
02:05:08,040 --> 02:05:11,360
Speaker 1: I have a court like the yarn and the pictures

2787
02:05:11,400 --> 02:05:12,280
Speaker 1: everything in my room.

2788
02:05:12,360 --> 02:05:16,200
Speaker 5: Right now, you're asking for players that if you're talking

2789
02:05:16,200 --> 02:05:18,760
Speaker 5: about Bryce can't throw the football, buddy, what's gonna do?

2790
02:05:18,840 --> 02:05:20,720
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no. He can throw the football.

2791
02:05:20,760 --> 02:05:22,560
Speaker 1: We just need like you need the trial and air

2792
02:05:22,680 --> 02:05:24,760
Speaker 1: to get out there and develop a guy like he

2793
02:05:24,800 --> 02:05:26,720
Speaker 1: got in and it was like he's gonna be He's

2794
02:05:26,760 --> 02:05:28,120
Speaker 1: not gonna be the start at the beginning of the year.

2795
02:05:28,280 --> 02:05:30,120
Speaker 1: Then this keen kid gets hurt. I don't know exactly

2796
02:05:30,160 --> 02:05:32,640
Speaker 1: what his injury was. He's thrust into a starting role.

2797
02:05:32,920 --> 02:05:35,720
Speaker 1: We play very conservative early in the year when I'm thinking, hey,

2798
02:05:35,800 --> 02:05:38,200
Speaker 1: maybe let this kid rip a little bit, make the mistakes.

2799
02:05:38,320 --> 02:05:39,560
Speaker 1: He's done a good job of taking care of the

2800
02:05:39,560 --> 02:05:43,440
Speaker 1: football up until this game. But it's like he needs reps. Dude,

2801
02:05:43,480 --> 02:05:46,480
Speaker 1: He's got the talent, like he's shown it the Washington game.

2802
02:05:46,960 --> 02:05:48,560
Speaker 1: It was a very good football team by the way

2803
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Speaker 1: they are ranked. Now, Like, he can throw the football,

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02:05:51,600 --> 02:05:54,200
Speaker 1: but you just need the in game experience. That's like

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02:05:54,600 --> 02:05:56,600
Speaker 1: you got to take advantage of that in the Northwestern game,

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02:05:56,640 --> 02:05:58,680
Speaker 1: in the Maryland game. But those those two teams aren't

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02:05:58,720 --> 02:06:01,000
Speaker 1: teams you can sleep on anyway. Good thing is we

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Speaker 1: can all we have a run game that seems like

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02:06:02,800 --> 02:06:05,320
Speaker 1: no matter what is going to be successful, which is

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02:06:05,360 --> 02:06:07,800
Speaker 1: a great feeling. But we this guy's got to get

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02:06:07,800 --> 02:06:10,240
Speaker 1: reps under his belt. We have a bye week this week.

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Speaker 1: I feel good about it. I feel because the receiver

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02:06:12,800 --> 02:06:14,680
Speaker 1: stepped up this past game. They were getting open, to

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Speaker 1: say the least.

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Speaker 2: He didn't have any tuddies.

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02:06:17,720 --> 02:06:20,000
Speaker 1: No, no, Marshall had three of them.

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02:06:20,080 --> 02:06:22,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see all three of them average seven point

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02:06:22,440 --> 02:06:24,640
Speaker 2: four yards on the ground, twenty five carries, one hundred

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Speaker 2: and eighty five yards. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but Bryce, I know it is bad. It was

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02:06:29,360 --> 02:06:31,400
Speaker 1: you know line, it's bad.

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Speaker 2: Do you know it?

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02:06:32,240 --> 02:06:37,880
Speaker 1: It's like under fifty percent one two weeks in a

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02:06:37,960 --> 02:06:41,000
Speaker 1: row of a bad passing stat line. But I'm dude,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you there's things he did in that game.

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Speaker 1: We were like, he's a learning getting out of the pocket.

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Speaker 1: There's a little bit of pressure on him, looking down

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02:06:48,680 --> 02:06:51,040
Speaker 1: the field, gaining yards with his legs a couple of times.

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02:06:51,640 --> 02:06:54,400
Speaker 1: There's I'm telling there's four or five throws in that game.

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Speaker 1: If we could just have those back, We're talking about

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Speaker 1: a completely different Brice Underwood right now. And we have

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Speaker 1: a bye week, which I'm fires me up. A lot

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Speaker 1: of injuries, a lot of job openings too. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: we're talking about Michigan.

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Speaker 2: A lot of job opening What are you doing right now?

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02:07:11,760 --> 02:07:13,080
Speaker 2: I'm just saying a comment.

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02:07:13,680 --> 02:07:14,760
Speaker 1: Okay, what's your comment mean?

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02:07:15,000 --> 02:07:16,560
Speaker 2: Just a lot of job openings.

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02:07:17,280 --> 02:07:19,920
Speaker 1: It'll be it'll be all of a sudden he wants

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Speaker 1: to start throwing throwing mud at me.

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02:07:21,800 --> 02:07:22,960
Speaker 2: What mud am I throwing?

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02:07:23,960 --> 02:07:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Michigan football. And you're going a lot

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02:07:26,040 --> 02:07:28,040
Speaker 1: of job openings out here, like there's like fourteen.

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02:07:28,160 --> 02:07:30,760
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting. It'd be interesting to see what else

2845
02:07:30,800 --> 02:07:31,360
Speaker 2: comes open.

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02:07:32,640 --> 02:07:33,839
Speaker 6: Lane Kiffin is gonna be cause.

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02:07:35,480 --> 02:07:38,280
Speaker 4: The Lane Kiffin joke happening right now. He's just basically

2848
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Speaker 4: coaching for everything I'm hearing Lane Kiffin loves it at

2849
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Speaker 4: this place Auburn, Florida as he came up with Arkansas.

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Speaker 6: Tennessee, Oklahoma State and LSU.

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Speaker 2: Would you love Lane Kiffin? Jack, That's what I was saying.

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Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure someone mentioned that, like the second the

2853
02:07:55,280 --> 02:07:59,040
Speaker 8: Tennessee game was over. It's always a question, and I'm

2854
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Speaker 8: sure a lot of Tennessee fans would yeah, accept him

2855
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Speaker 8: with open arms. But I'm not ready for that conversation

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Speaker 8: one bit.

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Speaker 4: Right now, did hypool? Did he still have a tea time?

2858
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Speaker 4: He still time this week.

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Speaker 5: That seems like it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's something chefing now, but.

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Speaker 4: Hey, that was that was that was crazy Hugh Freeze

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Speaker 4: the whole T time incident.

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Speaker 8: Twitter Burner Berner Twitter versus truly up there with the

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Speaker 8: c I.

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Speaker 1: A yeah, yeah, well I can't get over is you

2866
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Speaker 1: guys are having this conversation and I have just completely

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Speaker 1: supported Nebraska and we'll just talk about job openings. What's

2868
02:08:37,680 --> 02:08:39,200
Speaker 1: just support the boys support Michigan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope you guys do well in the If

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02:08:42,440 --> 02:08:47,080
Speaker 4: you guys go to the college for we'll playoff onward.

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Speaker 4: Is that you Is that what you wanted out of

2872
02:08:48,680 --> 02:08:52,280
Speaker 4: your Nebraska support? No, for me to come fully wanted,

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02:08:52,560 --> 02:08:56,200
Speaker 4: That's what I wanted, my friend. But I'm just talking about,

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Speaker 4: like I'm talking about the lance to give the college football.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of job openings right now. Yeah, unless

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02:09:01,240 --> 02:09:03,480
Speaker 1: you know who your guys going to be, why would

2877
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Speaker 1: you get rid of a head coach this year?

2878
02:09:04,960 --> 02:09:08,240
Speaker 2: Bro? What happened the first time the Penn State rumor

2879
02:09:08,280 --> 02:09:09,200
Speaker 2: came up with coach rule?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very clear, Like no one's talking about

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Speaker 1: Michigan losing their head coach.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying a lot of job openings, a lot

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Speaker 2: of job yeah, and what else comes out.

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Speaker 1: In the odds. He was like plus three hundred, and

2885
02:09:21,080 --> 02:09:23,760
Speaker 1: the next big one was like plus eight hundred. It's like, yeah, hey,

2886
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Speaker 1: this is a real possibility. You're just you're just muffeting

2887
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Speaker 1: one out there.

2888
02:09:27,320 --> 02:09:30,000
Speaker 2: Well yeah I could be. I could very much be

2889
02:09:30,080 --> 02:09:32,880
Speaker 2: muffeting one out there. Okay, just a lot of ball left,

2890
02:09:33,600 --> 02:09:35,040
Speaker 2: a lot of job openings right now.

2891
02:09:35,080 --> 02:09:39,000
Speaker 4: It'll be interesting to see if any other jobs come open.

2892
02:09:39,520 --> 02:09:42,040
Speaker 1: This has gotta be the most job openings.

2893
02:09:43,800 --> 02:09:45,040
Speaker 2: Onward.

2894
02:09:45,280 --> 02:09:48,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, good, great show, Big hugs, tiny kisses. We will

2895
02:09:48,640 --> 02:09:52,040
Speaker 4: see you tomorrow, busting with the boys, Tony V.

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Speaker 2: See you tomorrow.

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