WEBVTT - The Deep State Gets Trumped 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:15.720 You are entering the freedom hunt. General Flynn walks free. 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:19.720 Arrests are made in the shooting of Ahmed Armory, Russia. 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:22.880 Documents released tell us that some pundits on TV weren't 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:27.800 telling the truth. Operation Gideon, the failed overthrow of Venezuela's 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:31.639 Nicholas Maduro. And we got guests like Glenn Jacobs, Jack Carr, 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:35.920 and Jesse Kelly coming up. This is the Buck Sexon Show, 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:39.000 where the mission or mission is to decode what really 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:45.800 matters with passionable intelligence. Make no mistake America, You're a 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:52.360 great American. Again, the Buck Sexon Show begins. He's a 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:59.160 great guy. Now, he was an innocent man. He is 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:04.760 a great gentleman. He was targeted by the Obama administration 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:08.160 and he was targeted in order to try and take 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:11.720 down a president. And what they've done is a disgrace. 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:14.080 And I hope a big price is going to be paid. 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:16.880 A big price should be paid. And there's never been 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:19.440 anything like this in the history of our country. What 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:24.399 they did, what the Obama administration did, is unprecedented, has 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.119 never happened, never happened. A thing like this has never 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:30.600 happened before the history of our country. Welcome to the 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:34.320 Buck Saccdent Show. Everyone celebrate a good moment here if 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:41.720 you will. After years of being dragged through the mud, bankrupted, ruined, 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:47.440 threatening him, threatening his family, the thuggery on display from 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:53.240 some of these FBI and DOJ folks was completely jaw dropping. 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:59.120 But after years of that, General Flynn is now walking 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:04.360 a freeman. Now, this is something we've been waiting for, 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:07.440 and we've talked about this countless times on the show, 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:10.919 and it really is the end of at least one 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:15.840 chapter here, which is the left's stop at nothing scorched 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:20.440 Earth war, using the weaponization of the intelligence community, a 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:26.560 completely and disgracefully complicit lib media, and every dirty trick 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:29.480 and tool the DNC could either push, pay for or 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:33.600 otherwise bring into being. With all of that going on, 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:36.720 they try to take down General Flynn. It looks like 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:40.080 they in the end were unsuccessful. Now, I would note 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:44.760 it's not really victory, not yet, or it's not really justice. Now. 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:48.040 This is a huge step toward justice, but before we 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:50.600 could really say that all has been set right in 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:55.000 this situation, what we would need to see is a 0:02:55.120 --> 0:03:00.120 number of FBI former FBI now mostly I think all 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:04.400 of them FBI agents and perhaps some DJ folks in 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:07.919 handcuffs facing charges of their own. You might say what 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.280 charge would they be guilty of? And thought I would 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:14.360 just say official misuse of position. It's on the books. 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:16.960 There are all kinds of ways that when you work 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:18.840 in the federal government, if they want to go after you, 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:22.000 if you do something really bad, they can. Now would 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.160 it stick, would they go to prison? I don't know, 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:28.400 but we know what they did was disgusting and Comy 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:33.000 and McCabe and Yates and you name it, a whole 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:37.080 bunch of them struck in Paige. They should be facing 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:39.080 criminal charges for what they did. And you know, I'm 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.560 not somebody that's always running around yelling lock her up, 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:43.720 lock him up. I'm not. I'm not a person who 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:48.040 does that. This actually demands this. This deserves and demands 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:52.040 a response in the in the criminal courts. They ruined 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.520 a person. They used the power that they were entrusted 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:57.640 with by the American people to do so. And it 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:00.320 was a scheme. It was at a part of it hit. 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:04.520 It was done out of a bitterness against Donald Trump 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:07.200 and everybody around him. He wasn't supposed to win that 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:11.840 twenty sixteen election, and he did, and they wanted to 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.040 get even That's what this was. This was their effort 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:19.200 to even the score. And with the memos that have 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:24.880 come out, we see from the FBI agents involved in 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:31.799 this clear entrapment. I mean, this is as as obvious 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:33.880 as it could be now. I mean, when you look 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:37.839 at the evidence that has come out here, we've had 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:41.760 to embrace really something of a shift. You know, a 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:46.479 journal's position on General Flynn's prosecution has long been a 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:49.640 test of intelligence and ethics, and countless lips have been 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:55.800 failing that for years. But now their position on General 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:59.839 Flynn is really a test of sanity, because believing that 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:04.359 Flynn's prosecution was legit given facts we now know, is 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:09.880 straight up insane, insane in the membrane. This is not 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:14.320 something that anybody could still justify. And as you see 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:20.640 the legions of experts and Democrat politicians appearing on MSNBC 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:24.320 and CNN crying over the Flynn decision, all the Justice 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:27.719 Department has lost its way. Just remember that they were 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:31.440 entirely wrong about Russia collusion and the Ukraine phone call 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:36.520 impeachment farce. So it's been a tough first Trump term 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:40.599 for them. Let's see how they do, God willing during 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:45.320 Trump term two, which we're still hoping will happen. And 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:48.120 I've got to say, between the Waco series on Netflix, 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:52.159 which I finished last night, and this dismissal by the 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:56.000 Department of Justice of the case against former National Security 0:05:56.000 --> 0:06:01.560 Advisor Trump confidant and associate three star general, former DIA 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:06.320 Director General Michael Flynn, Between the WACOST series and the 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:09.360 dismissal of Flint case, it's not a good week when 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:12.480 it comes to public perception of the trustworthiness and judgment 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:19.320 of federal law enforcement. Not good stuff. But until the 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:24.520 FBI conspirators against Flynn are in prison, we have not 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:28.599 seen justice here. And that means McCabe and that means Komy. 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:33.720 They're very fond of using the tool of investigation as 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.200 a weapon against people they don't like. Well, that tool 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:38.840 can be used and should be used against them. They 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.520 should be subject to full investigation, and you know what, 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:44.520 they should be held accountable for this. If this was 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.680 not official misuse of position, I want to know what is. 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.200 If this is not a form of corruption of office. 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.960 Think of the charges that these individuals have brought against 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:57.360 people in the past. They set someone up to lie. 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:02.520 He didn't flynn, He didn't even lie. The FBI was 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:07.320 lying about what they were doing there. They completely abused 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:12.720 their discretion with the law under the usage of the 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:14.960 Logan Act as a pretext for this. I mean, the 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:19.560 whole thing was absolutely absurd. They should not be allowed 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:21.680 to get away with it. And this should really frighten 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:25.080 people that McCabe was acting FBI director and that Comey 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:28.080 was FBI director before him. Remember, Comey's not really a lawman. 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:35.000 He's a lawyer. He's a sanctimonious, self righteous lawyer. This 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.920 is not a guy who was you know, wrestling crack 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:42.640 dealers and you know, saving little girls from being kidnapped 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:45.080 across state lines and stuff. It's not the FBI g 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:48.560 man that you think of at all. Comy's a lawyer 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:51.720 and really a politician, and that he was able to, 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:55.680 i know, for multiple administrations of both parties, just keep 0:07:55.840 --> 0:08:00.920 worming his way up the ranks speaks very poorly to 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.560 what is rewarded within the federal bureaucracy. But it's not 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:05.320 surprising to me at all. People ask me why I 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.520 left the federal bureaucracy usually tell him how many hours 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:09.920 do you have. How much time do you got. There's 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:14.600 a lot of corruption and rot, and there's a disincentive 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:20.920 for excellence, for free thinking, for ambition, but ambition within 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:22.960 the scope of the mission, not just you know, I'm 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:26.520 trying to advance myself up the ranks. I mean holding 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:29.480 oneself to a higher standard when it comes to achievement, 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:32.400 not when it comes to CYA and kissing up to 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.239 the right people in positions of authority within the bureaucracy. 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:40.400 That's where COMI really excelled playing the system, and now 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:43.240 it's time we hold him accountable. You know Andie McCabe 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:46.280 who lied under oath and is not being charged, which 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:48.600 I think is a huge mistake from the DJ's perspective. 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:51.280 But here's what you have to remember with that if 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:53.480 he was charged, he would be charged in Washington, d C. 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.839 Do you think you'd be able to find a jury 0:08:56.880 --> 0:09:00.240 of Andie McCabe's peers at this point in DC, which 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:04.559 is ninety seven percent anti Trump, Basically you think you'd 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:06.760 find a jury that would send any McCabe to prison 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:11.480 for lying. Nope, he's a hero of the resistance. So 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:16.120 DJ not pressing charges against him. I think as as 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:19.280 much as that is just a gut punch. I can 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:23.240 see that there's some prudence in it. It feels wrong, 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.240 and I'm not saying it's right, but there may be prudence. 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:30.160 Annie McCabe and others. Of course, they're still going to 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:35.160 They're still going to be running around spreading their lies 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:40.080 and their intellectual filth anything in order to justify the 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:43.240 decisions they've already made. Attorney General Barr, who, as you know, 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:48.440 I don't know, elevate any members of the administration or 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:52.079 politicians into being a hero status or anything. That there' 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.400 are all just people. They make mistakes that we always 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.680 got to remember that. We applaud them for their good 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:00.600 actions and we hope for their good care character, but 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:02.840 they also they will always disappoint you at some point. 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:07.320 That all said, ag Barr has been the single best 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:11.400 pick in the cabinet for this administration for the first 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:15.120 four years of Trump, in my estimation, the single strongest 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:18.360 member of Trump's cabinet, most the most important one, and 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:22.959 I think he has effectively saved the Trump presidency. I 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:26.000 really think that that's a fair thing to say, and 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:27.439 I know that's a big statement, but I think he 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:30.040 saved it because if you would have. I mean, just 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:33.120 look at what And he's a nice man, and he 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:35.720 is a well intentioned guy, and I know he likes 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:39.000 this radio show. But you know, Attorney General Sessions was 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:40.840 just not up for the street fight that he was 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.920 thrown into. He just wasn't up for it, which was 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:48.199 a problem. But here's Attorney General Barr, who is up 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:50.439 for it, who knows how this game is played, who 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:53.640 understands who the enemy really is. Here's what he says 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.280 about this decision to drop the charges against General Flynn, 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:59.319 which is a huge I mean, high five to all 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:01.080 of you listening to this show and all of us 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:03.920 who have been pushing publicly or even just among friends 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:06.880 for how this was an injustice and Flynn should be pardoned. 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:11.360 We were right and the Libs were wrong. Don't forget that. 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:14.960 Don't just pass beyond this moment without taking stock of it. 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:18.360 And here's the Attorney General saying, oh, yeah, we need 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.440 to have one standard of justice place six A crime 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:24.360 cannot be established here. They did not have a basis 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:29.360 for a counterintelligence investigation against Flynn at that stage. Does 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:31.880 the fact remain that he lied? Well, you know, people 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:36.400 sometimes plead to things that turn out not to be crimes. 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:40.080 What should Americans take away from your actions in the 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:42.920 Flynn case today? I want to make sure that we 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:46.400 restore confidence in the system. There's only one standard of justice. 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.720 You really know a lot about a person at this stage, 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:52.480 if they've been following this issue and if they're a 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:56.600 public voice on it. If they double down now and say, oh, 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.400 it's the corrupt Justice Department. I mean people who are 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:03.120 truly just morons. And there's a lot of them out there. 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:06.559 Was at the Law the law Fair Blog or one 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:10.880 of those sites, one of these ridiculous, these ridiculous websites 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.400 that has legal experts. They're all, Oh, this is a 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:16.960 terrible day for the Justice Department. What are they now 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:20.920 saying that we should have the FBI go after people 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:24.520 for violations of a Logan Act? The Logan Act is 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:27.640 so broad, so vague, and so clearly unconstitutional. It hasn't 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:29.840 been used in one hundred and seventy years or so. 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:33.640 But we still should Yeah, we still should go with it. 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:38.240 Come on, this is absurd, But they cling to this fiction. 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:41.200 They cling to it. Now, before I get into some 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:47.760 of their truly pathetic attempts to defend this the meaning 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:52.360 to defend the media's position here. I just want to 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:55.319 note one of the things I'm most proud of here 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:59.160 on the show is that we've for years now, on 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:01.440 all these issues of Usha collusion everything else. I've always 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.160 been open to all the new facts and data that 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:06.520 come in, and I have never had to go on 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:08.560 air on this show and say, wow, I really missed 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:12.920 that one. Sorry, guys, wrong on this one. Oh they 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:17.839 really got him. Never happened. You've been supporting me, You've 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:21.040 agreed with me. We have been right on the injustice 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:24.480 done to General Flynn for years. I have publicly advocated 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:26.560 all the way up the chain as much as I 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:28.920 can for a pardon for him. Now it looks like 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:33.000 that is no longer necessary, thank Heavens. But it's a 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:35.480 tough situation out there in the country, and I know 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:37.400 we've been through a lot of gloom and doom. Take 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:41.560 a moment, my friends. Justice it's a wonderful It's a 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:45.440 delicious thing when it happens, and we're close to it 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:47.679 now with Flynn. We're not quite there yet. But this 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.199 was a big win and we were on the right 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:52.800 side of it, and people that looked down their noses 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:55.319 at you. People in the media or maybe even in 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:57.800 your day to day life who think you're crazy because 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:03.200 you weren't calling a decorating veteran combat hero who wanted 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:06.720 to serve his country in the Trump administration like General Flynn, 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:10.520 because you wouldn't call him a traitor. You were simple, 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:13.440 You were a rube. You didn't know anything, You didn't 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:17.200 know any better. Yeah, you were right. I was right. 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:24.160 They were wrong. Who are the rubes? Now, Libs, you're 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:27.960 in the freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:35.240 It's a pretty dark place on social media. The very 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:38.680 first combat after the story broke that I saw on 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:43.000 Twitter was Prodin If you're listening, high five year asset. 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:47.240 And there are Russian flags and Russian memes popping up. 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.920 And now we see Bill Barr really just doing Donald 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.800 Trump's dirty work. Now he has in his back pocket 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:55.560 a little age who saw to it to let Flenn go. 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:59.480 It is I think breathtaking dishonesty from the Justice Department. 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:03.040 This is the collapse of the Justice Department. Now, Katiel, 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:06.400 you caught my breath with the collapse of the Justice Department. 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:08.800 This is a case where the fix was in the 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.280 fix is in not good for the rule of law, 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:14.480 it's not good for morale, and it's not a fair outcome. 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:17.520 This is an absolute injustice. Now, don't not worry anyone 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.520 who cares about the rule of law. Mike Flynn's lawyers 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:23.960 have been engaged in a smear campaign. This is a 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:28.400 political and incredibly destructive thing to the rule of law. 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:32.920 It's all heading towards the president wiping the Muller investigation 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.520 out of the history books, at least as far as 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:43.000 criminal conviction. Oh my, just just bathe in the media 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:46.760 lib tears for a moment. Oh, it's destroying the dear Jay. 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:50.680 That's a credit to NewsBusters who pulled together that montage. 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:54.400 Is a great montage that they did. NewsBusters says some 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:58.880 really good stuff. But I gotta say, I gotta say, 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:02.440 what are they even How are they even making this argument? 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:06.560 They never should. It's not it's not possible to tell 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:12.280 a material lie about a non material investigation because the 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:16.520 investigation had no predicate. What do these idiots not understand 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:21.040 If someone in the FBI walks up to me and says, hey, 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:24.280 have you ever cheated on your wife? I mean I'm 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:25.880 not married, so this would be easy. But but but you know, 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:27.960 have you ever seen on your wife? And I said no, 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.480 and a turn out that's true. The FBI doesn't get 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:32.600 to throw me in prison for lying to the FBI. 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:37.040 Right if someone's dating an FBI officer, FBI agent rather 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:40.760 CI officer FBI agent. If someone's dating an FBI agent 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:43.840 and the FBI agent's like, hey, we're wor you last 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.960 night and he or she lies, you don't get to 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.840 throw that person in prison for lying to the FBI. 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:55.000 Do the idiot libs not really understand this. That's what 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:56.800 the attorney gents are front you. It's not really a 0:16:56.800 --> 0:17:01.360 crime because there really was no investigation, there was no 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:05.040 basis for this. They were and it was clear from 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:07.879 the conversation that this was a setup. And that's not justice. 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:12.560 It was pretextual any normal judgement through the side. Let 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:15.200 me tell you, I'm a little a little concerned about 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:18.560 whether Sullivan will delay this. Judge Sullivan, he's crazy. He 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:21.920 sometimes gets it right, but he also talked about treason 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:25.920 and charges that Flynn wasn't even facing about a year ago, 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.399 and so he's had a Judge Emmett Sullivan has had 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:30.680 some outbursts in this case where he's just he's out 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:33.480 of it, he's nuts, but occasionally he gets stuff right. 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:36.240 He may slow this down a little bit, say, oh, 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:37.760 I don't know if this can really Why is the 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:41.439 DJ backing office think about and the person who backed 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:44.120 off the case or rather made the final determination. They're 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.560 all saying, Oh, it's a Trump it's a Trump fix. 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.320 The guys were working at the DJ for ten years. 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.879 He's a career professional and it was his call and 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:54.480 he went to the Attorney General. He said, we we 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:58.680 can't continue with this. Who really believes that it would 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:03.000 be just what they want? They want Flynn to get 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:05.720 his zero jail time sentence anyway, that's what he was 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.560 going likely going to get out of this. What do 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.119 they really think was the victory here? Oh, this was 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:17.720 all about creating some basis for the figment of liberals 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:21.000 imagination that is Russia collusion and that there was all this, 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:24.960 all these Russian machinations behind the scenes. This was a 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:27.480 mass hysteria. Now this is all frightening, folks, because the 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:31.080 mass hysteria about Russia collusion was really a warning about 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:34.879 Now the mass hysteria about endless lockdown with COVID nineteen 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:37.520 that we're seeing, but I'll return to that later. Thanks 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:40.800 for listening to The bus Stson Show podcasts. Remember to 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:44.639 subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:49.919 get your podcasts. The President debases himself and reduces himself 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:54.840 every day by you know, saying disgusting things about people, 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:57.639 and in this case, saying disgusting things about people who 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:01.040 dedicated their lives to protecting this country and their fellow citizens. 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:06.440 That's all horrendous, and we're unfortunately used to that by now. 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:11.280 But I would point out that General Flynn was not targeted. 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:15.760 He was properly investigated in a well predicated case, a 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:18.480 case that's been a case whose validity has been proven 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:20.800 not just by those of us who are involved, but 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:23.760 later by the Muller investigation and after that by the 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:29.359 Inspector General's investigation. He was investigated because we had reason 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:33.000 to believe he presented a threat to national security. I 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:36.320 still think that those things are worthy of investigation. Apparently 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:45.800 the President does not. What scum, What a disgusting, slimy 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:50.679 little disgrace this guy. This guy was acting director of 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:54.200 the FBI. I mean, he was involved in making decisions 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:57.359 about who's who was going to be a target of 0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:00.960 the of the most powerful federal law enforcement agency in 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:05.480 the United States, one that will investigate cases that involve 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:07.639 any US persons or interests all over the world. I 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:11.560 mean this, This the FBI is a big deal. And 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:14.760 the fact that this guy was running it for months 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:18.600 and before him, James Comey was running it. They thought 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:22.639 they thought that General Flynn was a threat to national security. No, 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:27.800 they manufactured a belief that General Flynn was a threat 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:30.240 to national security. And you know, at some point someone 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:36.119 should just look this little, sleazy, dishonest scum McCabe in 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:41.399 the eyes and say, how blanking dare you? What have 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:44.600 you done for this country that General Michael Flynn hasn't done? 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:47.159 What do you think you think, because you know, you 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:50.399 spent a career, you know, mostly locking up guys for 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:58.000 you know, medicare fraud and running illegal drugs. You know, 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:00.679 you think you're a hero, but General Flynn is not. 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:03.480 You know, we're all going to give you the benefit 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:05.720 of the doubt and oh, you're a great guy, General Flynn. 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:08.919 He's oh, oh, because he was willing to work for 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:12.919 the Trump administration, which it's just it really is. And 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:15.520 I've tried not to go here, folks, And I know 0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:18.360 this is a little bit of a digression, but there's 0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:20.440 a part of me that just can't get over how 0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:23.200 it is. And I know this COVID thing is horrible. 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:26.600 It's all just also so from a historical sense though, 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:30.879 so unfair that the Trump administration was just crushing it 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:33.199 and the Libs were in a panic because things were 0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:38.440 so good and we've basically now got a real election 0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:40.240 that's going to happen where it's going to be tight, 0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:44.359 it's going to be close because of the equivalent of 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:47.000 you know, an asteroid hitting the planet. Really, I mean, 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:49.119 you know, what are you going to do? What are 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:52.399 you gonna do? But the first three years of Trump 0:21:52.400 --> 0:21:53.920 were three of the Look, there were three of the 0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:57.720 best years of my life. We weren't we weren't all 0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:01.840 worried about terrorist attacks all all the time. We weren't 0:22:01.880 --> 0:22:04.359 all wondering if you know, the future was going to 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:07.880 be brighter economically and if people could get jobs, and 0:22:07.960 --> 0:22:11.520 we weren't starting wars we didn't need to. And you know, 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:15.600 but now the Libs get lucky, They get lucky with 0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:19.119 the devastation and catastrophe that has hit the entire world. 0:22:19.200 --> 0:22:22.640 But now now they can put forward, you know, Biden, 0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:26.199 the El SID candidate. Just just put him on that 0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:29.520 horse and send him off into battle, you know, prop 0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:31.760 the body up and just send El Sid out there 0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:36.120 and they'll run away. And great movie, by the way, 0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:38.560 worth watching if you've never seen it. Real masterpiece for 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:42.040 what it is. But I go back here to McCabe. 0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:47.000 I don't understand how anyone can take this guy even 0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:50.399 a little bit seriously. I mean, Comey went to Twitter 0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:52.919 that this was a dark day for the Department of Justice. 0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:55.159 It's I think it's lost its way as what he 0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:58.480 said about it. That was the quote on Twitter, James Coomy, 0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:02.119 who remember these people that are that are still treated 0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:05.240 as having all this credibility, credibility in the media. Their 0:23:05.240 --> 0:23:08.080 own institution has found them to be dishonest, to have 0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:12.520 broken rules, to have to have said a horrible example 0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:16.840 for the rank and file of the FBI. And they 0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:22.040 they're not. They're not apologetic at all, not a little bit. McCabe, 0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:25.600 the same guy, the same smarmy little jerk. That's all. 0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:29.280 This was a legitimate investigation and these people were they 0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:32.359 were locking people up for years and years and years. 0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:36.640 Do you think Comey and McCabe have good judgment about 0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:38.880 who should go to prison? Now you would say, buck, 0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:42.560 they're the prosecutors. Yeah, But the FBI is working hand 0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:45.639 in glove with the prosecutors, and the FBI decides what 0:23:46.000 --> 0:23:48.280 you know, you know, the most momentous decision is and 0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:53.280 the whole apparatus of federal law enforcement who to investigate 0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:57.080 and who not to That's the first step. And to 0:23:57.240 --> 0:24:00.800 investigate is often to destroy, right if they want to 0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:06.040 go after you, just the investigative process. Ask anybody who 0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:08.239 you know works at a financial firm or works at 0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:11.320 a big company. All it takes is those dudes and 0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:15.200 dudets in windbreakers that say FBI to come into your office. 0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:18.320 Doesn't matter if if you two weeks later was whoop, 0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:20.919 see we made a mistake. All it takes is FBI 0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:24.800 to come in your office, photos on TV and in 0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:27.280 the newspaper, and your company may be done and your 0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:31.919 reputation may never recover. So the decision to investigate is 0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:34.560 the first real assault. And then the decision to prosecute 0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:36.640 is the decision to destroys. I've told you, Once you're 0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:39.719 prosecuted as they've done to Flynn. You're bankrupted, You're ruined. 0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:42.600 Where does Flynn go to get his reputation back? I 0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:46.920 really mean this too, General Flynn deserves to be back 0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:48.960 in the Trump administration. This is not a joke. This 0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:52.840 is not a troll. They robbed him of this, and 0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:55.480 they they will say, oh, but you know he lied 0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:59.280 to Mike Pence. No, now we find out he really 0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:01.960 the FBI did. Didn't think he lied. He really just 0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:05.880 didn't even remember. Because this was such an insignificant conversation 0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:09.200 with Kizoyak, among all the different things that are going 0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:13.280 on for an incoming national security advisor, He's basically saying, hey, man, 0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:15.320 just chill, we're coming in. We'll handle things a little 0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:18.120 bit differently. Over the course of a conversation. That's it. 0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:20.840 Nothing illegal about that. It was the right thing to 0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:24.960 tell him. What was wrong was Obama being mister tough 0:25:25.000 --> 0:25:27.879 guy as he's leaving office, not going to be in 0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:31.080 power anymore, and just kicking sand in the eyes of 0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:34.600 the Russians. Why not because he cares about Russia, as 0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:36.679 you remember, you know, I will thrown smooth, This will 0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:39.320 Vladimia right. All of more or or more space toiment 0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:41.760 over after the next election, after all, the people can't 0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:45.440 actually judge me or further stuff I do. And then 0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:47.320 Obama gets all tough when he's not going to be 0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:50.960 president anymore, makes life harder for the incoming administration. And 0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:53.360 we know that he got all fired up about Russia 0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.880 because Hilary lost because of Russia interference. Hillary lost because 0:25:56.880 --> 0:26:00.879 she's horrible. All right, we all know it. Oh but no, 0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:04.840 McCabe still still sticks to the script here, still saying 0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:09.159 the usual bull crap man, you know, team, Should I 0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:11.080 do a version? Should I do a podcast where I 0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:13.720 can actually use salty language. I've really been thinking about this. 0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:15.560 Not for the kids, all right, we'd have an eighteen 0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:17.159 plus warning on. I feel like it'd be fun to 0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:21.720 do a like a you know, a Scotch and beer 0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:23.720 version I can drink beer, but a Scotch and beer 0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:26.000 version of this podcast for just the adults, where I 0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:28.480 could just do the you know, we'd bring producer market too. 0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:31.480 You want to hear salty language. The man is not shy. 0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:35.720 But anyway, this McCabe then, I mean this just really, 0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:37.440 this whole thing rubs me the wrong way, you know, 0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:39.720 because I Also remember I had a few run ins 0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:41.919 in mind day, relatively minor ones, but I had a 0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:48.400 few run ins with the with the internal security apparatus 0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:51.800 of the CIA, and they were they were Andy McCabe's, 0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:55.159 and they were Jim Comey's, except much lower level. But 0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:58.840 they were bad people. There were bad people who were 0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:02.639 bitter and weren't really contributing to the mission. And all 0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:06.720 they do is harass people and just you know, rifle 0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:09.880 through your finances and sift through your underwear drawer and 0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:14.000 see what they find. They're gross, not all of them, 0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:17.000 pretty much all of them, but most of them. So 0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:20.240 I understand this mentality, Oh, I'm just doing my job. Really, 0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:22.000 you pick when to do your job and when not to. 0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:24.040 So I don't ever say you're not just doing your 0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:29.119 job or you're just doing your job. But here's a 0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:32.960 cabe for you. Still still sticking with it. Play clip ten. 0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:38.400 Conservative media has been obsessed with finding some indication of 0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:43.440 a setup since this all started, you know, several years ago. 0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:46.280 The simple fact is it absolutely did not happen. And 0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:48.840 I think that those notes, if in fact they are 0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:52.600 Bill presteps are, are indicative of that a team got 0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:55.960 together and discussed the strategy, how do we approach this interview? 0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:58.359 What sorts of things should we be thinking about. I 0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:02.840 think those notes reflect one person's internal deliberations across the 0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:06.439 range of options that might that might take place. We 0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:09.399 strategize about interviews every day. When we sit down with 0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:11.919 a terrorist, we think about will they admit to the 0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:14.520 crimes that we think they have committed, or will they 0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:18.159 lie about their known associations. If they lie, will that 0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:21.160 give us something else, additional leverage that we can apply 0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:25.919 in our investigation. That's exactly what happened with General. What 0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:29.440 were they investigating? I mean, that's a real journalist and 0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:34.160 pushed that, I'm sorry, what were you investigating? The Logan Act? 0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:38.400 You really think that that's okay? I mean that's where 0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:41.400 you have to drill in and look this bed eyed 0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:45.720 little scum McCabe right in the face and say, I'm sorry, 0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:49.120 what do you think you're doing? Tough guy, You're going 0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:53.720 after a decorated veteran who's the incoming National security advisor 0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:59.040 with the Logan Act. They had already been told they 0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:04.400 were going to close the counterintelligence investigation on him. They 0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:08.240 knew there was nothing And people bring up the thorough registration. 0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:12.360 I mean, my friends, if you know enough about federal law, 0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:14.800 there are there's a whole book written by Harvey A. 0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:18.000 Silver Gate and it's called like two Felonies a Day 0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:19.880 or five felonies a day, or whatever it is, and 0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:21.520 it's just about all the laws you're breaking all the 0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:25.120 time without even realizing it. But we assume, and we 0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:28.080 shouldn't have to, but we assume that law enforcement's going 0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:30.480 to prioritize and that you know, you have to actually 0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:33.680 do something bad that hurts someone or something for there 0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:36.000 to be consequences against You. Can't just be like, yeah, 0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:38.160 there's this obscure law that no one's ever really heard 0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:41.040 of and knows about, and you couldn't even define what 0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:43.200 it is. But we're gonna get you with that one. 0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:47.240 That's how McKay plays the game, straight out of Lavrenti 0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:50.360 Barria of the Soviet Union would be very proud of 0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:55.000 the mentality that Comy and McCabe have. These people are disgusting. 0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:57.960 I would not shake James Comy's hand. I would not 0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:01.000 show James Comy respect in person. I do not think 0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:02.960 he is deserving of it. I think he's a bad 0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:05.520 human being who needs to do a lot of penance. 0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:08.920 Same thing with McCabe. This isn't just some partisan spat. 0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:12.440 These are people who are undermining the very foundation of 0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:16.960 our country's judicial system, of our law enforcement system. They 0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:20.719 are breaking faith with the American people with institutions that 0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:24.040 can do any of us real harm. The greatest threat 0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:27.720 to tyranny that we face is from our own institutions 0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:32.960 turning against us and abandoning the constitution for partisan reasons, 0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:35.400 thinking that they're making the country a better place in 0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:37.840 the process. You know, everyone always thinks there's a good 0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:40.920 reason for whatever they're doing. Doesn't make doesn't mean that 0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:44.320 they're right. As we know, every evildoer will have some 0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:48.280 explanation for why they're doing what they do. The fact 0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:53.120 that Komian McCabe are likely to escape prison just goes 0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:54.800 to show you that we still don't have any real 0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:59.160 accountability in our system. But thank heavens, General Flynn is 0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:01.560 not going to be and not going to have this 0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:05.560 on his record. And if they're I've never seen before 0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:07.680 what happens at this point because he hasn't been sentenced, 0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:10.680 so I'm assuming that they'll they'll wipe this away. They're 0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:15.360 dropping the case against him, but Trump should maybe if 0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:17.760 Trump should just write a pardon for him anyway, just 0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:20.000 to be just to be on the safe side, and 0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:21.920 he should bring him back into the administration. He should 0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:25.480 make him a senior advisor, senior advisor for intelligence coordination 0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:29.120 with law enforcement. How about that. That'd be a great idea. 0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:31.680 And have some of these deep state morons who thought 0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:33.600 they knew better than the American people and wanted to 0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:36.400 play games, they'd have to go in and brief Flynn 0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:39.960 when he wants a briefing, answer his questions, write some 0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:45.320 memos for him, Go get him some coffee. You're in 0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:48.959 the freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast 0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:58.840 that iconic music screams summer and we all scream for 0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:04.680 ice scream. But during a pandemic, social distanced the rule 0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:07.719 getting close to the ice cream man could mean getting 0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:11.160 something else. Fact of life. Yet here's mister Freese, not 0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:16.719 his name, in his truck of treats, unmasked. Ungloved taking 0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:21.240 cash for cones in the Northwest Bergs. That's when CBS 0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:24.560 two Assignment editor Greg Kelly, father of two, dad on 0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:26.920 a bike, said, wait a minute, he did. It's a 0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:28.360 good idea to be doing this with the stay at 0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:32.040 home owner the COVID nineteen. Eventually, our Greg got a 0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:35.040 bit closer, tried to get an answer from mister Free 0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:42.520 again not his name. Why are you trying to take children? 0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:45.200 Do not worry a mask? Why are you trying? Are 0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:48.200 you sick? Am? I sick? No? And I want to 0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:54.360 say that not ship either. Why are they quarantining healthy people? Wall? 0:32:56.160 --> 0:33:00.000 I hate this, I really do. I mean this CBS 0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:02.200 to affiliate whatever. First of all, you know you're harassing 0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:05.200 a small businessman here. The guy's trying to sell ice cream, 0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:06.840 he's trying to make some money, trying to make a living, 0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:09.600 and he's not wearing a mask. The chance of him 0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:13.520 let's just understand this. It is overwhelmingly likely that he 0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:15.720 does not in fact have COVID nineteen. I know we 0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:17.800 can't say he definitely doesn't, but it is very likely 0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:20.440 that he does not in fact have COVID nineteen. Okay, 0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:23.960 so that means that he is at zero risk of 0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:27.720 doing anything to anybody else. Even if in fact he 0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:32.160 has COVID nineteen and he has a brief interaction with somebody, 0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:35.840 you would think the chances of them getting COVID nineteen, 0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:38.360 especially if it's children, which is what the whole thing is. Oh, 0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:40.920 he might be infecting children. Children. It's difficult for them 0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:42.560 to get this, and if they get it, it is 0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:50.600 effectively changes nothing about their have no symptoms, their health 0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:54.320 is not negatively impacted. But you know, instead of going 0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:55.520 up to the gun and say, hey, man, could you 0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:57.280 wear some gloves? There's a mask, you know that that's 0:33:57.320 --> 0:33:59.480 the responsible way to do this. If you if you 0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:02.480 want to make a thing of it to shame him, yes, 0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:06.040 let's go out there. Let's be the smug journal morons 0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:08.640 and go ahead and shame the business owner and put 0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:12.120 him on TV. And you know, how dare he try 0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:15.960 to feed his family, feed himself, put food on the table, 0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:21.680 pay his rent. Awful? What a terrible man? Are we really? 0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:23.680 How long do these morons think we're gonna have to 0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:26.000 do We're gonna wear masklin gloves forever? Is that their plan? 0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:30.640 Or until the panic the panic legions decide that it's 0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:33.719 okay for us to start living our lives again. You know, 0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:38.000 I'm sorry, but other people's unbelievable fear. I mean, we've 0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:40.680 seen this with climate change too. You know, all the 0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:43.120 world's gonna end. So do everything I say about everything, 0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:45.880 You better recycle. You know, it was interesting here and 0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.239 this is a small thing, but here in New York, 0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:51.360 we had the plastic bag band going to effect in 0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:54.160 New York State, in New York City right before this, 0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:57.279 a few weeks before the pandemic really broke out. And 0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:59.440 you know what's happened. Now, I'm getting plastic bags all 0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:02.120 the time. Do you know why? Because when there's real problems, 0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:08.279 people realize that's moronic. It's just annoying, stupid harassment. But 0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:11.000 the baby seals and the plastic bags, and you know what, 0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:14.359 are we gonna do it? No? It was dumb. It 0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:16.000 was a dumb rule. It's not even better for the 0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:19.479 environment when you look at the impact on trees and 0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:22.960 the fuel ratio for taking the heavier paper bags, and 0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:26.160 also the disease risk of you know, people not being 0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:29.359 able to people bringing rather these reusable bags which are 0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:31.359 much more likely to have a whole bunch of yeah 0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:35.719 that's right, bacteria, viruses and disease on them. But it 0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:37.920 was stupid, and I told you it was stupid. And 0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:41.160 when this stuff hit the fan, guess what everybody else realized? 0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:44.160 It was in fact, dumb, it was not something we 0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:48.399 should have been doing. Og Now we all figure it out. 0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:54.960 There's a need to wear some protection in some places 0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:58.000 at some times. We all understand that. And if you 0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:01.040 really don't want the ice cream the ice cream man 0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:03.319 and you say that, I mean, I will say this, 0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:07.560 should he probably be wearing gloves irrespective of COVID nineteen. 0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:10.480 I think the answer is yes. I think food service handling, 0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:13.840 so so that I'm a little more like, you know, okay, 0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:16.440 but you know, to say all you have to be 0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:19.760 wearing a mask, we're gonna wear Are we really setting 0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:22.480 up society to wear masks until there's a vaccine? Anytime 0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:27.040 you go outside when outdoor transmission or a brief, brief 0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:31.120 moment in contact with somebody unless they're breathing right on 0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:34.680 your face, is very unlikely to spread this virus. Is 0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:37.799 that what we're really accepting now? I've got to tell you, 0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:41.439 I really the virtue signaling from people on this. Look, 0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:44.239 it's a complicated, difficult thing, and we're losing We're still 0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:46.320 losing a lot of really losing a lot of seniors. 0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:49.080 That's who we're losing as a result of this, which 0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:53.200 is tragic and This is a tough time for the country, 0:36:53.680 --> 0:37:00.160 but this has now become so thoroughly politicized, and it's 0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:03.799 it's just wrong on every level. This is not about 0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:06.399 left and right. It shouldn't be about pro Trump anti Trump, 0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:08.719 but that's what the leftist turned it into. You know, 0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:13.520 if you disagree with wearing a mask forever, you're probably 0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:18.319 one of those gun total Second Amendment liking Constitution reading folks. Well, 0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:23.759 at least they released Shelley Luther in Texas. That was 0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:26.520 a victory for sanity, but there's still a lot of 0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:29.320 crazy people out there and shaming small business owners for 0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:33.120 trying to open. It's not cool. Thanks for listening to 0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:37.400 The Bus Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, 0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:42.120 the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, 0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:45.480 everybody to give us a little additional freedom perspective, a 0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:47.920 focus on liberty at a time when the country's liberty 0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:50.960 seems to be in tremendous peril. We are joined by 0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:54.520 Glenn Jacobs. He is the mayor of Knox County, Tennessee. 0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:57.319 Also familiar to many of you, I'm sure, as the 0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:02.760 WWE wrestler formerly known as Kane he joins us. Now, Glenn, 0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:05.879 great to have you on, sir, Thanks Puck, I appreciate it. So, 0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:09.040 my friend, what is good? First let's start with Tennessee 0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:12.280 and then we'll take this nationwide. We're in the midst 0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:15.600 of this lockdown. Still, some states are reopening a little bit. 0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:18.480 I've read a little that Nashville has had some cases 0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:20.680 and there's been you know, there's been a bit of 0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:24.000 a scare there. But how are you guys doing statewide? 0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:26.440 How has your governor been in this process? Telling me, 0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:28.920 let's talk about how Tennessee's handling COVID, then we'll talk 0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:32.920 about the national response. Sure, Tennessee did not go nearly 0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:36.360 as far as many other states did with executive orders. 0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:40.920 There was a safer at home ordered issued obey. It 0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:44.759 wasn't like California and some other places where we see 0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:50.200 really draconian enforcement. You know, some restaurants and bars were 0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:53.400 closed and now they're back to living in capacity, and 0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:56.440 some other businesses were closed. But overall, we didn't go 0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:59.399 nearly as far as other states. We're starting to move 0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:03.239 in the other direction now, we're starting to open things 0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:07.720 back up, and we probably don't get as much press 0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:09.759 as Saint Georgia did when when they did it, But 0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:12.839 we're still that we're right there with them as far 0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:15.480 as what we're doing, and compared to every pels, I 0:39:15.480 --> 0:39:19.440 guess that's some pretty aggressive opening businesses up, and I 0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:22.880 mean just allowing people to get back out. We're speaking 0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:28.440 to Glenn Jacobs, he's the mayor of Knox County. Mayor Jacobs. Well, 0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:32.040 the country, it seems to me, had this panic reaction 0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:34.800 and it was based in and Look, there were a 0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:36.600 couple of weeks there where I was like, well, I guess, 0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:38.680 I mean, if we're really facing what they're saying, we're 0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:40.640 facing in the way that they're telling us it's going 0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:42.640 to happen. We don't seem to have a lot of choice. 0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:45.920 But we've gone from fifteen days to stop the spread 0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:49.560 to now fifty some odd days to stop the spread, 0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:52.200 although there is some, as you said, some reopening in 0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:57.160 some places. Have you been surprised by the speed and 0:39:57.239 --> 0:39:59.680 the ease with which so many people seem to have 0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:04.319 relieve or allowed the state to relieve them of their 0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:10.320 liberties in this situation. I really have, And it's really 0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:14.359 it's disturbing because, as you said, it went from an 0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:17.760 idea of flattening the curse of the healthcare system wouldn't 0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:19.880 be overloaded, which is something I think that we can 0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:23.240 all look at and say, Okay, that's reasonable, although again 0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:26.400 I'm yeah, you know, I don't think that the government 0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:30.319 should be mandating the people stay inside or mandating a 0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:32.800 lot of things that went on. But you can understand 0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:34.480 for a short period of time, as we said in 0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:36.880 fifteen days, to flatten the curve. Okay, Well then it 0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:41.759 went to well actually now we can't. We can't go 0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:45.239 back out, and we can't open businesses until there's a vaccine. 0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:47.799 It's like, well, wait a second. You guys said one thing, 0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:50.160 now you're saying something else, and you've gone you know, 0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:53.000 if you actually read what like Neil Ferguson from the 0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:56.120 Imperial College of London said with their report, which was 0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:58.480 the one that caused everyone to completely freak out, which 0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:01.480 was two point two million deaths in America, they said 0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:03.680 that if you're going to do lockdown route that that 0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:06.160 can be up to eighteen months. And I was going 0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:09.080 on a any second, we there, we'll leave you in 0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:12.120 a stone age. If we go on an eighteen month lockdown. 0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:15.880 This is not possible, and even Fergus in his report 0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:19.960 acknowledge that. And the thing is, too we have these models, 0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:22.040 and the models keep on changing, and of course the 0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:23.719 models are only as good as the data, and they 0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:25.560 don't predict the future. I don't think that they ever 0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:29.080 really should have been used for public policy purposes. They 0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:31.839 should have been used for epidemiological purposes, and look at 0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:35.200 the spread, and certainly policymakers maybe should have taken them 0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:39.799 into account. But that became the driving force behind all 0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:42.799 these policy decisions. And then the problem with that buck 0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:45.279 is as a as an elected official, I have to 0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:47.680 look at this big picture, you know, this big puzzle 0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:51.400 of the community's overall well being in health, and certainly 0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:54.239 displays into that you also have to think about the 0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:57.120 economic health with the community. And you know, for the 0:41:57.160 --> 0:42:00.920 folks out there that think, well, you're putting profits of people, know, 0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:03.400 if you don't have a healthy economy, you're not going 0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:05.920 to have healthy people. And what we've done now is 0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:09.680 we've concentrated so much on the public health aspect that 0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:12.960 we've forgotten about everything else. And then we don't even 0:42:12.960 --> 0:42:16.120 know if if this lockdown strategy is going to work. 0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:19.680 When you look at these statistics from various countries and 0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:23.920 compare those that we don't know that it actually works. 0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:25.880 And then we don't know what the arc of the 0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:28.680 disease looks like because there's things like her immunity. And 0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:32.239 if you have a lockdown and people go back out, 0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:33.759 well they are you going to have a second way? 0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:35.960 There's a lot of an answer questions and we've just 0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:38.480 said okay, and it's fine, this government do whatever you 0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:40.680 need to do protect us, and we will trust you. 0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:43.680 And that's a very dangerous throat to beyond in history 0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:46.399 show since that we're speaking Glenn Jacobs, he's the mayor 0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:51.640 of Knox County, Tennessee. Mayor Jacobs. The debt is also 0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:54.239 something that I mean, at least when I came into 0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:56.759 conservative media about a decade a decade ago, there was 0:42:56.760 --> 0:42:58.760 a lot of concern about the debt. Well, it's gotten 0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:01.120 a lot worse since and what we see going on 0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:04.839 now is truly unprecedented. You're going to end up with, 0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:08.040 I mean, no one really knows right now, but trillions 0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:12.160 of dollars of additional spending. And also, I think, and 0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:14.120 this is the part of this that people haven't factored 0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:17.760 in trillions of dollars less in tax receipts and revenue 0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:19.920 across the board too, right, So we're going to be 0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:22.120 spending a whole lot more money as a government, and 0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:23.520 the government at the end of the year is going 0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:26.279 to be taking in a whole lot less money. So 0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:28.640 it's going to be a gulf that's wider than people 0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:32.080 even recognize. How do you see that pressure playing out 0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:34.960 in the economy And how worried are you about the 0:43:35.040 --> 0:43:38.480 prospect of just the United States being at in the 0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:41.000 neighborhood of thirty trillion dollars in debt by the end 0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:43.399 of this year, which some are saying is possible. I'm 0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:45.640 very worried about that. In fact, I'm much more worried 0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:48.720 about that than I am. The direct impact of COVID nineteen. 0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:53.440 COVID nineteen is a serious of public health fish and 0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:57.880 it's something certainly that needed to be addressed. But what's 0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:01.000 happened now with the way that we react did is 0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:07.040 we've caused an economic collapse that's gonna end up bringing 0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:10.800 in a monetary and physical crisis which is going to 0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:14.080 cause political upheap. It at some point, as you said, 0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:16.080 we're going to come out of this for thirty trillion 0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:18.680 dollars from debt. In two thousand and eight when we 0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:22.160 had the Great Recession, country had about ten trillion dollars 0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:24.680 from debt. And you look at what was done then, 0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:27.839 and this was a huge event. It pales in comparison 0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:29.960 to what's going on right now as far as the 0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:32.520 amount of money of the thorough government spending. We should 0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:35.120 all keep in mind the federal government doesn't happen money. 0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:37.600 The Federal Reserve can print money, and that's what's happening 0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:40.720 right now, and that's going to have the dilitaries effect 0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:43.799 on the dollar purchasing power dollar and the strength of 0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:47.239 the dollar. Currently we're in Bretton Woods two is the 0:44:47.280 --> 0:44:50.000 world monetary system. I think we can all assume at 0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:52.680 this point in Bretton Wood too is debt and something 0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:54.680 else is going to replace that. None of us knows 0:44:54.760 --> 0:44:58.319 what that is, but that's what I see, is I 0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:03.800 see in the end the the monetary situation, the fiscal situation. Currently, 0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:06.360 the federal government pays about four hundred billion dollars a 0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:10.719 year in debt service on twenty three, twenty four twenty 0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:12.800 dollars in debt. That's going to grow up even higher. 0:45:14.160 --> 0:45:17.839 They're trying to offset a deflationary spiral by throwing all 0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:20.840 this money into the economy. That's going to take a 0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:22.560 lot for that to happen because people just starting to 0:45:22.800 --> 0:45:26.040 spend money that the money circulation and velocity of money 0:45:26.360 --> 0:45:29.359 is very low, so inflation is going to be very low, 0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:31.560 and economists and the Fed, they're just going to keep 0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:34.320 on saying, throw more money, throw more money, throw more money. 0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:37.400 So you actually have an inflationary bomb in the economy. 0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:40.080 And when things start picking back up, and that inflation 0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:42.680 starts picking back up because of the huge amount of 0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:45.080 debt service that the federal government has to pay, they're 0:45:45.080 --> 0:45:46.920 not going to be older raisins strates like they have 0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:49.959 in the past. So a long term, over the next 0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:52.680 I don't know how many years, however long it takes, 0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:56.080 the US, unfortunately, is going to be in a very 0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:59.680 precarious situation. Speaking in Glenn Jacobs, mayor of Knox County 0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:02.399 towny See and may or to that end, I want 0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:05.880 to know what the picture is for small businesses. I mean, 0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:09.160 your county has hundreds of thousands of residents, so obviously 0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:12.439 a lot of businesses that are shut down right now 0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:15.840 must be struggling mightily. I know the Paycheck Protection Program. 0:46:15.880 --> 0:46:19.880 We had Monica Crowley from Treasury on my show earlier 0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:21.360 in the week on one of my shows earlier in 0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:24.080 the week talking about what PPP has done, but even 0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:26.400 she admitted, look, it's the government program. It's not perfect, 0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:29.960 but it's helping. But what are you hearing from small 0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:33.080 business owners and what are your concerns about the ability 0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:36.839 of both businesses currently shutter to reopen and people who 0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:39.800 have lost as we know what twenty some odd million 0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:42.840 now have officially lost jobs, probably more like thirty million overall. 0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:45.280 But of the people who have lost jobs in your state, 0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:48.000 that they'll be able to get those jobs back, that's 0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:51.919 a huge issue. Small businesses could be the ones most 0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:55.799 by this. The large businesses, the national chains, they have 0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:58.279 the revenue of the capital to survive something like this. 0:46:58.600 --> 0:47:01.840 Small businesses don't. And even now, what we're doing in 0:47:01.920 --> 0:47:04.640 Knos County, in the state of Tennessee, we have a 0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:09.680 gradual RePhase I'm sorry, gradual phased opening plan, which is 0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:13.319 of course better than nothing, but still now businesses have 0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:16.680 had in some cases no revenue for a month or 0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:20.240 six weeks, and now they're going to get like maybe half, 0:47:20.520 --> 0:47:24.000 maybe twenty five percent of their normal revenue. Businesses can't 0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:28.080 survive like that. And again, especially especially the small businesses, 0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:31.440 which are going to be hard the worst, and those 0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:34.360 are the backbone of our economy. They're the backbone of 0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:37.160 our local economy, they're the backbone of the national economy. 0:47:37.480 --> 0:47:39.799 And then if you think about people coming back to work, 0:47:41.600 --> 0:47:44.160 an issue with now the federal government trying to help 0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:47.160 people is the fact that in some cases they're making 0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:50.520 more money on unemployment than an employer can afford to 0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:52.640 pay them. So they're going to want to stay on 0:47:52.719 --> 0:47:55.120 that and rightfully so I don't blame them for as 0:47:55.120 --> 0:47:57.480 long as they can, which is going to cause another 0:47:57.520 --> 0:48:02.160 impact in the labor markets. So as you point out, 0:48:02.200 --> 0:48:06.279 it's the big guys for the most part, I'm not 0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:08.600 going to say to be okay, we've seen some bankruptcies 0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:11.520 and big companies, but they're much more prepared and much 0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:15.279 more equipped to whether this than the small businesses. And 0:48:15.320 --> 0:48:17.839 of course the small businesses that that's our neighbors. It's 0:48:17.880 --> 0:48:20.880 the mom and pop shops that many to go to 0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:25.560 and support and the people that are involved in our community, 0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:29.759 and it's it's really a travesty. One of my messages 0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:32.200 is always, to the extent that you can, and to 0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:35.880 the extent that you're comfortable. Please support your local small 0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:38.040 business if you want, if you want to see them. 0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:41.080 After all this is over and there's own business. It's 0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:42.960 up to us right now to do the most that 0:48:42.960 --> 0:48:46.319 we can to help support them. Mayor Glenn Jacobs, thanks 0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:48.640 so much, sir. I'll be out in Tennessee soon. Hopefully 0:48:48.640 --> 0:48:49.880 you guys will all be open. We can get a 0:48:49.880 --> 0:48:53.440 beer a little bit up please, Buck, thank you, you 0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:58.839 take care. You're in the Freedom Hunt. This is the 0:48:58.880 --> 0:49:06.400 Buck Sexton Show podcast. Pandemics have been in the world before, 0:49:06.600 --> 0:49:11.120 and people survived them. We of course, could have survived 0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:16.279 this much better if idiot had done the right thing 0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:18.839 and listened and heated all the warnings. There were many, 0:49:18.880 --> 0:49:22.000 many warnings and we are all paying for it now. 0:49:24.239 --> 0:49:27.040 It would have been bad, maybe in some ways, but 0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:31.360 never like this. Hey, Robert de Niro thinks that it 0:49:31.360 --> 0:49:33.800 would have been bad, but it wouldn't have been that bad. 0:49:33.840 --> 0:49:38.600 But you know the idiot who doesn't like and you know, hey, 0:49:38.600 --> 0:49:41.799 it's he doesn't like Trump. Why do we have to 0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:44.359 hear from Robert DeNiro about pandemic response. I mean early, 0:49:44.760 --> 0:49:47.640 I'm just wondering, does he know anything other than how 0:49:47.680 --> 0:49:51.120 to play basically the same character in a bunch of granted, 0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:54.240 some very watchable movies. You know, we give credit words 0:49:54.280 --> 0:49:58.560 due here. Casino actually a producer. Mark, Is Casino a 0:49:58.560 --> 0:50:01.359 better movie or good Fellows a better movie? No, that's 0:50:01.480 --> 0:50:03.879 that's a good Fellows. Yeah, I think I think good 0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:06.320 Fellows is the right choice there. Casino is a little 0:50:06.320 --> 0:50:08.799 bit soul crushing, you know, it's I mean not that 0:50:08.840 --> 0:50:10.799 there's not some of that and good Fellows too, but 0:50:10.920 --> 0:50:13.120 Casino is, like it gets kind of just too depressing 0:50:13.160 --> 0:50:15.200 toward the end. I found, you know, it's really you 0:50:15.280 --> 0:50:17.440 kind of you end up watching the movie. You're just like, oh, 0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:20.920 humanity is doomed. This is bad. But there's some very 0:50:21.040 --> 0:50:23.080 very watchable movies, very good things. I actually think that 0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:27.120 Meet the Parents is one of his better movies. You know, 0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:31.359 Little Jigsy, Little Jigsy, little little milking the cat Jigsy. Yeah, 0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:34.239 I love those movies. That's a crazy really that's a 0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:37.680 great movie to me. The funniest parts of Meet the 0:50:37.920 --> 0:50:42.080 Parents were the Jigsy the cat thing, and then also 0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:44.120 because I feel like we've all been there before, where 0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:46.279 we're forced to be in some kind of a competitive 0:50:46.360 --> 0:50:50.040 environment where you don't really want to compete, but like 0:50:50.200 --> 0:50:52.320 now you're now people are like, well, why aren't you 0:50:52.360 --> 0:50:53.840 better at this? And then you kind of turn it 0:50:53.880 --> 0:50:55.960 up a little bit and now you're the guy who's trying. 0:50:56.040 --> 0:50:58.359 You know, it's like you're playing flag football with someone 0:50:58.400 --> 0:51:00.960 else's family and you're getting and thrown in the bushes, 0:51:01.000 --> 0:51:02.520 and then all of a sudden, you try kind of hard, 0:51:02.560 --> 0:51:04.600 and you know, somebody gets a bloody nose from your 0:51:04.600 --> 0:51:07.839 elbow and the lover look's wrong with you. We've all 0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:11.239 been there before. I think that it's if you it's 0:51:11.360 --> 0:51:12.920 co ed sports too. If you're ever in a co 0:51:13.080 --> 0:51:15.160 ed sports environment wherevere's kind of like drinking beer and 0:51:15.200 --> 0:51:18.360 having fun and playing volleyball and then you like start 0:51:18.400 --> 0:51:20.239 missing anyway, that's what happens. To meet the parent the 0:51:20.280 --> 0:51:23.479 volleyball seat in the pool is amazing. I mean, that's 0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:28.080 that's one for the ages. I thought, what's your favorite scene, producer, 0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:31.399 Mark oh Man, that's hard. I mean, I think I'm 0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:34.799 gonna say from Meet the Fockers, when Jinxi ends up 0:51:34.840 --> 0:51:37.480 in the toilet in the RV because the dog shoved 0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:39.960 him in the toilet. I haven't even seen Meet the Fock. 0:51:40.080 --> 0:51:42.239 Oh those are. It's a great continuation. That's why I 0:51:42.239 --> 0:51:45.279 say it's the meat Meet the Parents series, because there's 0:51:45.280 --> 0:51:46.759 a couple of them. I mean, I will. I think 0:51:46.800 --> 0:51:49.960 Meet the Parents is the best thing that Ben Stiller 0:51:50.040 --> 0:51:53.480 ever did, other than There's Something About Mary, which is 0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:56.280 an amazing movie to go back and watch, just because 0:51:56.320 --> 0:52:01.520 it's really a time capsule of how much society has 0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:06.120 changed and what it considers to be acceptable for entertainment purposes. 0:52:06.520 --> 0:52:10.080 There is so much in There's Something About Mary you 0:52:10.120 --> 0:52:13.560 would never be able to get away with now. I 0:52:13.600 --> 0:52:16.600 feel like you can say that about almost every older 0:52:16.640 --> 0:52:19.560 television show from like the nineties, early two thousands. Oh, 0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:23.359 Friends has a lot of Friends, makes a lot of 0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:29.200 LGBTQ community kind of jokes and fat jokes, And there's 0:52:29.200 --> 0:52:31.000 a lot of stuff even in Friends, which you think 0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:37.000 is the most saccharine, corporate friendly, sponsor friendly show imaginable. 0:52:37.000 --> 0:52:39.160 Oh no, you there's a lot of stuff. There have 0:52:39.160 --> 0:52:41.600 actually been articles written by people at Vox and other 0:52:42.040 --> 0:52:45.319 you know, beta mail establishments about how Friends is. You know, 0:52:45.320 --> 0:52:47.560 we shouldn't be celebrating it anymore. You know, I was 0:52:47.600 --> 0:52:50.680 watching Disney with the Snow Princess. We were watching the 0:52:50.880 --> 0:52:54.480 Aristocrats and as one does. So now you guys all 0:52:54.520 --> 0:52:55.839 know while I've been in a Disney kick too, it's 0:52:55.840 --> 0:52:58.200 because Snow Princess and she likes to watch Disney suns. 0:52:58.200 --> 0:53:00.800 She likes Disney films. So we watched Lion King recently. 0:53:00.800 --> 0:53:05.920 Lion King's great. Still moves really well too, It's still great, yeah, 0:53:06.040 --> 0:53:08.480 still grow, it's great. Oh, the old Disney stuff is fantastic. 0:53:08.480 --> 0:53:11.239 The newer Disney stuff is not really as good. But 0:53:11.440 --> 0:53:13.640 you know, we're watching the even the Auristic Cats, and 0:53:13.640 --> 0:53:16.719 they had I've never seen this warning before. Disney puts 0:53:16.840 --> 0:53:19.600 up in the you know, like when they tell you 0:53:19.680 --> 0:53:21.680 that in a movie that there's you know, nuderdy strong 0:53:21.760 --> 0:53:26.600 language whatever. They had a warning about outdated cultural stereotypes 0:53:28.200 --> 0:53:31.640 that now you can't have outdated cultural stereotypes in movies 0:53:31.719 --> 0:53:35.719 or you'll get in trouble. So, for example, the Siamese 0:53:35.880 --> 0:53:39.799 cats in a Lady in the Tramp they've I think 0:53:39.800 --> 0:53:42.719 they cut that out of some versions of it. Now, Um, 0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:45.759 you can't do that. So I'm just saying you know, 0:53:45.920 --> 0:53:48.879 they're even Disney, even the old Disney movies you can't 0:53:48.880 --> 0:53:51.520 get away with. And a lot of the old cartoons. 0:53:52.360 --> 0:53:54.000 You know, a lot of the old cartoons. I think 0:53:54.040 --> 0:53:56.520 people would have a problem with now too. But anyway, 0:53:56.520 --> 0:53:58.680 all right, so let's get back into the mix here 0:53:58.760 --> 0:54:00.719 on this. I just I think it's funny. They know 0:54:00.760 --> 0:54:02.319 he is he from Roberts de Needle. What do you 0:54:02.320 --> 0:54:04.600 think about the pandemic? Robert? You know, I think if 0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:07.320 the idiot wasn't running things zoo, you know, that's great, 0:54:07.760 --> 0:54:11.759 that's really really so very helpful. Oh and they also 0:54:11.800 --> 0:54:15.120 wanted to hear from from al Gore. The fact that 0:54:15.160 --> 0:54:17.719 they almost made this guy presid the United States is appalling, 0:54:17.840 --> 0:54:20.240 and they really tried. He came very close. Play fourteen 0:54:21.520 --> 0:54:25.880 and to take your medical advice from a right wing 0:54:26.080 --> 0:54:32.040 talk show host who brings some questionable medical advice into 0:54:32.080 --> 0:54:35.400 the Oval office instead of listening to the Centers for 0:54:35.480 --> 0:54:38.600 Disease Control. And as was said earlier, where is the 0:54:38.640 --> 0:54:42.759 Centers for Disease Control? They're the ones that shouldn't be 0:54:42.800 --> 0:54:46.839 having these daily briefings. Where is the FDA? Why? Why 0:54:46.920 --> 0:54:50.320 were they bullied into opening the floodgates? And letting all 0:54:50.360 --> 0:54:53.560 of these crummy tests out there that we now know 0:54:53.800 --> 0:54:57.279 most of them don't work. This is a disgrace. The 0:54:57.480 --> 0:55:01.560 entire handling of this matter has been an uttering, complete disgrace. 0:55:02.800 --> 0:55:07.719 Was a CDC bullied into putting the test? No you 0:55:07.880 --> 0:55:11.680 more on? The CDC put the tests out because they're 0:55:11.680 --> 0:55:14.960 an incompetent federal organization that gets billions of dollars, usually 0:55:14.960 --> 0:55:17.760 to tell people to make sure their kids eat enough vitamins. 0:55:18.440 --> 0:55:20.880 The CDC does a lot of worthless stuff. All I 0:55:20.960 --> 0:55:23.480 do is look do Google search on CDC guidance and 0:55:23.520 --> 0:55:28.120 things they're doing. Children should get, you know, more more 0:55:28.120 --> 0:55:29.880 fruits and veggies in their diet every day. I mean, 0:55:29.880 --> 0:55:32.120 that's what the CDC is often spending its time doing. 0:55:32.120 --> 0:55:36.080 It certainly not preparing for pandemic disease response. They were 0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:38.480 caught caught napping and then some on this one. But 0:55:38.880 --> 0:55:43.120 thanks for hearing from Al Gore. Oh my gosh, Democrats 0:55:43.120 --> 0:55:46.880 Al Gore, Joe Biden carry people they put forward to 0:55:46.920 --> 0:55:51.600 be president. So many of them are just clownish losers. 0:55:51.640 --> 0:55:55.080 Thanks for listening to the Buss and Show podcasts. Remember 0:55:55.160 --> 0:55:58.920 to subscribe on Apple podcasts. The iHeartRadio app or wherever 0:55:59.000 --> 0:56:04.360 you get your podcasts. Alright, team, I mentioned Operation Gideon, 0:56:04.480 --> 0:56:08.200 the failed overthrow of Venezuelan dictator Nicholas Maduro at the 0:56:08.239 --> 0:56:10.279 top of the show. This is a real thing that 0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:13.000 happened that people are not paying very much attention to, 0:56:13.520 --> 0:56:17.120 and involve some former US Special operators, a whole bunch 0:56:17.120 --> 0:56:21.560 of money, some shady activists, and other folks behind the scenes. 0:56:22.080 --> 0:56:24.880 What happened here? What went wrong? How could this have 0:56:24.920 --> 0:56:28.680 been done properly? We've got our friend Jack Carr to 0:56:28.680 --> 0:56:31.000 answer all this now. He's a former Navy seal and 0:56:31.239 --> 0:56:35.200 best selling author of the the latest book in his 0:56:35.480 --> 0:56:38.480 terminalist series, Savage Son, which Jack I am listening to 0:56:38.520 --> 0:56:41.480 on audiobook, by the way, true story, very much enjoying it. 0:56:42.000 --> 0:56:46.000 Although the turncoach CIA analysts. You know, I hope there's 0:56:46.040 --> 0:56:48.400 some good CI analysts in there too, Like, you know, 0:56:48.480 --> 0:56:50.440 some of the nerds are nice, say some of the 0:56:50.480 --> 0:56:54.520 nerds are patriots. Damn it, this is true. This is true. 0:56:54.840 --> 0:56:57.040 They're they're easy to pick on, kind of like politicians. 0:56:57.040 --> 0:57:00.279 And you know people in NOI NOE picks on more 0:57:00.280 --> 0:57:01.840 than I do. Well, when you know them, then you 0:57:01.880 --> 0:57:03.799 really know what's going on anyway, congrats on all the 0:57:03.840 --> 0:57:07.320 success of the book. And I know I saw Chris 0:57:07.320 --> 0:57:09.440 Pratt himself with the with the shout out for the 0:57:09.480 --> 0:57:11.600 Amazon series, so the word is out there. Now you're 0:57:11.640 --> 0:57:15.359 gonna have the Jack car series on Amazon, Savage Son, 0:57:15.440 --> 0:57:18.440 True Believer, all the Terminal List books. So all right, 0:57:18.440 --> 0:57:21.160 fantastic on that. And now let's drill down now that 0:57:21.200 --> 0:57:23.240 everyone who hasn't already heard knows they need to buy 0:57:23.320 --> 0:57:26.040 or download your book on audio. Now we can talk 0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:29.440 about what went down here man in Venezuela. You got 0:57:29.440 --> 0:57:32.240 some former US Special Operators, guys with real skill sets 0:57:32.240 --> 0:57:35.960 and real combat experience. They did, what I mean, give 0:57:36.000 --> 0:57:40.200 us the overview. Oh my goodness, so diving into this thing, 0:57:40.280 --> 0:57:42.400 just what a mess from start to finish, and not 0:57:42.480 --> 0:57:45.320 even start to finish, but before they'll lead up as 0:57:45.360 --> 0:57:48.680 far as not specific to this operation, but just their 0:57:48.760 --> 0:57:51.680 their mindset in doing anything, it seems. So you have 0:57:51.760 --> 0:57:54.120 this guy Jordan Gudreau. I don't know if I'm saying 0:57:54.160 --> 0:57:57.480 that name correctly, originally from Canada, early served in the 0:57:57.600 --> 0:57:59.400 US R and B from two thousand and one to 0:57:59.440 --> 0:58:01.680 twenty six. Team. And when someone gets out with a 0:58:01.680 --> 0:58:04.120 couple of years left. It's always a bit of a 0:58:04.200 --> 0:58:06.640 red flag, so I don't know what's going on there exactly, 0:58:06.720 --> 0:58:08.680 but at some point I think he went to eighteen 0:58:08.760 --> 0:58:11.920 Delta training with Army Special Forces, so for those listening, 0:58:12.000 --> 0:58:16.040 that's a medic training, very well trained guys, and then 0:58:16.120 --> 0:58:18.400 got out and did some private contracting in Puerto Rico. 0:58:18.440 --> 0:58:20.960 After Hurricane Maria, which a lot of people I know 0:58:21.280 --> 0:58:23.760 did as well, he went down there to help, and 0:58:23.800 --> 0:58:27.160 then after the Parkland shooting in Florida, wanted to get 0:58:27.200 --> 0:58:29.840 into school security side of the house and put together 0:58:29.840 --> 0:58:33.160 our plan to embed special operators in schools around the country. 0:58:33.440 --> 0:58:35.280 That didn't really take off, and then he started this 0:58:35.320 --> 0:58:37.640 thing called Silver Corp, which looks like a want to 0:58:37.680 --> 0:58:40.720 be blackwater with some pictures on there and some very 0:58:40.800 --> 0:58:44.440 strange video of him at a Trump rally pretending to 0:58:44.560 --> 0:58:47.800 be a Secret Service agent if I'm not mistaken, with 0:58:47.840 --> 0:58:50.240 the earpiece in and had somebody there taking the video 0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:53.080 that then went up on site. That didn't say he 0:58:53.120 --> 0:58:55.800 was really protecting Trump, but it certainly gave the impression 0:58:56.080 --> 0:58:59.400 that he was protecting the president in an official capacity. 0:59:00.120 --> 0:59:02.400 And then into February twenty nineteen, he went down to 0:59:03.720 --> 0:59:07.520 Columbia and worked security at a live aid concert to 0:59:08.480 --> 0:59:12.840 raise money for the opposition and for the Venezuela opposition 0:59:12.920 --> 0:59:16.400 the party, and apparently that's where this plan was hatched 0:59:16.640 --> 0:59:20.920 to put together a band of mercenaries and deserters from 0:59:20.920 --> 0:59:23.960 the Venezuelan army and do some sort of an invasion 0:59:23.960 --> 0:59:28.439 of Venezuela and abduct the current president and fly him off. 0:59:28.560 --> 0:59:32.120 Two parts unknown, which is just you mentioned the live 0:59:32.120 --> 0:59:35.200 aid concert. This guy's actually he's doing security now. He 0:59:35.240 --> 0:59:37.000 was an SF guy, so and as you said, he 0:59:37.000 --> 0:59:38.800 was a medic. I mean, he had the skill set. 0:59:38.840 --> 0:59:42.240 So he's not some weekend warrior soldier and a fortune 0:59:42.280 --> 0:59:44.240 guy who's like been to a you know, a cig 0:59:44.240 --> 0:59:46.320 training academy thing for two days and now thinks that 0:59:46.360 --> 0:59:49.320 he understands these things, right. Not that those academies aren't great, 0:59:49.360 --> 0:59:50.480 they are, but you know what I mean. I mean, 0:59:50.480 --> 0:59:55.600 he actually served. He goes to do the security for 0:59:55.760 --> 0:59:59.280 Richard Branson at a live aid concert and basically he's 0:59:59.280 --> 1:00:01.760 at this concert and they're talking to people and it's like, 1:00:02.160 --> 1:00:04.880 let's do our own version of the Bay of Pigs, 1:00:05.280 --> 1:00:08.560 except in Venezuela, not Cuba. We're going to do a 1:00:08.640 --> 1:00:13.000 snatching grab with Nicholas Maduro, who does have a fifteen 1:00:13.120 --> 1:00:16.120 million dollars US bounty on his head, so this is, 1:00:16.120 --> 1:00:20.480 I mean, there's real cash here, and also has been 1:00:20.480 --> 1:00:22.800 oppressing his people, and as we all know, Venezuelas just 1:00:23.080 --> 1:00:26.800 devolved into anarchy, chaos, starvation, and just a complete mess. 1:00:27.320 --> 1:00:30.920 But the guy certainly understands security because he understands that 1:00:31.000 --> 1:00:33.200 his rule is with an iron fist and not with 1:00:33.240 --> 1:00:36.680 the consent of the people anymore. So then what happens 1:00:36.720 --> 1:00:39.120 after so they hatch the plan, then what goes down. 1:00:39.440 --> 1:00:41.200 So I think there's a few months there, we're not 1:00:41.200 --> 1:00:44.640 exactly sure what's happening. But by late summer, by August, 1:00:45.280 --> 1:00:47.840 he's now trying to get some investors. So instead of 1:00:47.880 --> 1:00:50.760 that fifteen million after the fact from the US government 1:00:50.760 --> 1:00:53.200 that you may or may not get depending on what happens, 1:00:53.360 --> 1:00:56.160 he's looking for some upfront money two hundred and thirteen 1:00:56.520 --> 1:01:01.360 million dollars from investors in this country. And the craft 1:01:01.520 --> 1:01:04.560 one of the crafts airs, was not really involved, but 1:01:04.560 --> 1:01:07.760 at least listened to the pitch, from what my understanding is, 1:01:07.800 --> 1:01:12.360 and then didn't support it apparently. But this guy, Jordan 1:01:13.040 --> 1:01:16.120 Gudreau goes ahead and somehow makes his way down to 1:01:16.160 --> 1:01:20.520 Columbia and starts working with these deserters. And another fascinating 1:01:20.600 --> 1:01:24.360 character is a former Venezuelan general who is now in 1:01:24.440 --> 1:01:29.040 custody in New York awaiting trial or selling service to 1:01:29.080 --> 1:01:33.520 air missiles for cocaine to some of these deserted groups 1:01:33.680 --> 1:01:37.080 in Columbia. It's just it's a crazy cast of characters 1:01:37.080 --> 1:01:39.360 that I'm sure we'll be made into some sort of 1:01:39.760 --> 1:01:42.520 a movie at some point. A long time they said 1:01:42.560 --> 1:01:45.480 that the JW marryout where these guys all met up 1:01:45.520 --> 1:01:49.280 initially in Bogata, Columbia, was described by the Associated Press 1:01:49.760 --> 1:01:53.240 as a center of intrigue among Venezuelan exiles. But for 1:01:53.280 --> 1:01:57.080 this occasion where Goudreau met with these guys, conference rooms 1:01:57.080 --> 1:02:01.240 will reserved for one participant, described as the Star Wars 1:02:01.360 --> 1:02:06.760 Summit of Anti Maduro Goofballs. Military deservers include an accused 1:02:06.760 --> 1:02:13.880 of drug trafficking, shady financiers, and former Maduro officials seeking redemption. Wow. Oh, 1:02:13.880 --> 1:02:16.160 it's so great. You almost can't make it up. It's 1:02:16.200 --> 1:02:18.520 just it's so great. I mean, it didn't end so 1:02:18.560 --> 1:02:22.080 poorly for everybody. It would almost be comical like Delta 1:02:22.120 --> 1:02:24.200 for Step movie or something like that, But it did 1:02:24.200 --> 1:02:26.720 actually remind me of the beginning of an invasion USA 1:02:26.840 --> 1:02:29.200 for those who saw that in the mid eighties, where 1:02:29.200 --> 1:02:31.280 they have an invasion of this country by a band 1:02:31.320 --> 1:02:34.840 of Chuck Norris destroys the ball. It's great, but that's 1:02:34.840 --> 1:02:36.400 what I thought of when I saw the video. There's 1:02:36.400 --> 1:02:38.040 a lot of video out there, you can go online 1:02:38.280 --> 1:02:41.040 and check it out. But apparently there were two landing 1:02:41.040 --> 1:02:45.760 sites in Venezuela, one where eight people were killed in 1:02:45.840 --> 1:02:48.960 the majority of the roam. So this is execution out 1:02:49.000 --> 1:02:50.640 This is the execution phase of the plan what they 1:02:50.680 --> 1:02:53.840 try to do. Sorry, keep going, no, but even before that, 1:02:53.840 --> 1:02:55.960 we should probably jump back really quick and talk about 1:02:56.800 --> 1:03:02.560 how there were some weapons and equipment that were intercepted 1:03:02.680 --> 1:03:06.760 by then the Colombian government at some point, and so 1:03:07.000 --> 1:03:09.720 Venezuela knew what was going on here. They knew something 1:03:09.880 --> 1:03:11.960 was in the works, not just something, but they knew 1:03:11.960 --> 1:03:15.120 that an invasion was evident to overthrow the current president 1:03:15.440 --> 1:03:19.520 and they were ready and waiting. So two beach landing sites, 1:03:19.720 --> 1:03:22.200 one of them where we have eight people killed and 1:03:22.240 --> 1:03:24.720 the rest of the people are most of them any way, arrested, 1:03:24.720 --> 1:03:26.320 and then there's another beach landing site where the two 1:03:26.320 --> 1:03:30.520 Americans it looks like anyway, another beach landing site where 1:03:31.120 --> 1:03:33.760 daylight a fish, a couple of fishing boats that don't 1:03:33.800 --> 1:03:36.800 look very seaworthy, and where a lot of the video 1:03:37.040 --> 1:03:40.520 of our two other army Special Forces guys are arrested 1:03:40.560 --> 1:03:45.520 along with some of the other invaders, mercenaries, deserters, or 1:03:45.560 --> 1:03:48.240 whatever you want to call them. So there's some video 1:03:48.240 --> 1:03:51.720 out there that's not very flattering, and it also shows 1:03:51.960 --> 1:03:55.280 tremendous restraint I thought, on the side of the Venezuela 1:03:55.280 --> 1:03:57.600 and government and police and military forces, because they could 1:03:57.640 --> 1:03:59.840 have just mowed everybody down like in the Bay of 1:04:00.560 --> 1:04:03.840 So they didn't. They just killed eight people and are 1:04:03.880 --> 1:04:06.680 currently searching for I think ninety two others right now. 1:04:06.760 --> 1:04:10.480 So Jordan Boudreau is still my understanding, is still out 1:04:10.480 --> 1:04:13.400 there somewhere, and in the middle of all this, he 1:04:13.520 --> 1:04:17.880 does a video tweet with a Venezuelan captain from the 1:04:17.960 --> 1:04:21.440 National Guard talking about what's going on, that they're there. 1:04:21.480 --> 1:04:24.240 They're almost doing a play by play of what's happening, 1:04:24.280 --> 1:04:29.920 and they tag President Trump's Twitter account on this. So 1:04:30.240 --> 1:04:32.800 I mean it's just fascinating. The whole thing is absolutely incredible. 1:04:32.800 --> 1:04:35.200 So now I has two of his buddies. SF guys 1:04:35.360 --> 1:04:37.840 are detained in Venezuela play out, the best place to 1:04:37.920 --> 1:04:41.400 be detained where we have no official relations right now, 1:04:41.440 --> 1:04:44.560 there's no embassy there to help work on their release. 1:04:45.400 --> 1:04:47.760 So we have these two guys that are that are 1:04:47.880 --> 1:04:51.640 in custody, that are being interrogated of course, and we 1:04:51.720 --> 1:04:55.040 have the President of Venezuela with their passports, reading it 1:04:55.080 --> 1:04:57.200 off on the news and being able to re least 1:04:57.240 --> 1:04:59.600 his people say hey, look we have the United States 1:04:59.640 --> 1:05:02.480 of theally involved in trying to invade our country. Um, 1:05:02.800 --> 1:05:06.800 you know we we prevailed over the innovaders and can 1:05:07.040 --> 1:05:11.600 rally some some nationalism around him, which probably helps him 1:05:11.680 --> 1:05:13.280 after what's been going on in his country for the 1:05:13.280 --> 1:05:17.560 past few were years, with everyone starving, no medical uh supplies, treatment, 1:05:17.640 --> 1:05:20.960 that sort of thing. So it is just a mess. Yeah, 1:05:21.360 --> 1:05:24.040 that's probably the best way to describe it. Definitely mess. 1:05:24.080 --> 1:05:26.400 I mean, this was this was a go ahead, jack ahead. 1:05:27.480 --> 1:05:30.080 I was gonna say, Kennedy, President Kennedy. So the Bay 1:05:30.160 --> 1:05:33.080 Page wasn't really it wasn't a branchild with the Kennedy administration. 1:05:33.080 --> 1:05:36.680 It was patched by the Eisenhower administration, so Kennedy actually 1:05:36.880 --> 1:05:40.520 inherited that plan, and what he said in a lead up, 1:05:40.560 --> 1:05:43.280 although it was too late really to do much about it, 1:05:43.360 --> 1:05:46.680 was that it seemed too large to be clandestine and 1:05:46.960 --> 1:05:50.920 too small to be successful. So that's that's one of 1:05:50.960 --> 1:05:53.200 the parallels that we could look at when we're looking 1:05:53.240 --> 1:05:56.880 at this, which may be inspired by something like that, 1:05:57.200 --> 1:05:59.240 But what you really need in a situation like this 1:05:59.600 --> 1:06:01.760 is a government approach and an invasion of like an 1:06:01.800 --> 1:06:05.120 eighteen eighty nine invasion of Panama. Even though we're essentially 1:06:05.160 --> 1:06:08.480 going after one person in that, Mamuelinoiega. We brought a 1:06:08.520 --> 1:06:11.320 hole of government approach, obviously very heavy on the military 1:06:11.360 --> 1:06:14.600 side of the house, and an invasion rather than some deservers. 1:06:14.600 --> 1:06:16.000 So so I want to ask I want to ask 1:06:16.040 --> 1:06:17.520 you about about this part of it because I feel 1:06:17.520 --> 1:06:19.040 like a lot of the audience will be thinking, Okay, 1:06:19.080 --> 1:06:21.280 so these guys thought they could pull this off. Some 1:06:21.320 --> 1:06:23.800 of them did have a real military skill set. A 1:06:23.840 --> 1:06:25.520 lot of these other guys that seemed like they're just 1:06:25.720 --> 1:06:28.320 kind of in the mix for whatever reason. But I 1:06:28.400 --> 1:06:30.320 want to ask him, just for everybody. We're talking to 1:06:30.400 --> 1:06:32.600 Jack Carr, author of the Terminal List series. His new 1:06:32.640 --> 1:06:35.280 book out right now, his Savage Son. I am listening 1:06:35.320 --> 1:06:37.520 to it. It is excellent and you guys should all 1:06:37.520 --> 1:06:39.880 download it as well. Chris Pratt will be playing the 1:06:39.920 --> 1:06:43.560 main character in the Amazon series, which Jack has promised 1:06:43.600 --> 1:06:46.960 me will be better than the Jack Ryan series, which 1:06:47.040 --> 1:06:53.480 made the granted handsome and intelligent CIA analyst look good. 1:06:53.680 --> 1:06:55.920 But the rest of the series was terrible in the 1:06:55.960 --> 1:06:58.320 second season. So Jack says this, so I know he 1:06:58.360 --> 1:06:59.800 doesn't like to say that because he's working with them 1:06:59.800 --> 1:07:01.760 as now. That's fine, you you can plead the fifth 1:07:01.800 --> 1:07:04.520 I'm just saying the second season I did not approve. 1:07:04.920 --> 1:07:08.000 I'm never going to deal with Amazon anyway. Let me 1:07:08.160 --> 1:07:10.840 let me ask you about what if you were presented 1:07:10.880 --> 1:07:13.640 back to this situation in Venezuela, if you were presented 1:07:14.040 --> 1:07:17.560 with this plan, would you what would have been the 1:07:17.600 --> 1:07:19.960 initial I look now now we've seen how it went wrong, 1:07:20.120 --> 1:07:22.080 But what what would have been the flags where you're like, 1:07:22.120 --> 1:07:23.680 if you guys are going to pull off a coup, 1:07:24.160 --> 1:07:26.800 you got no chance because of the following Well, there's 1:07:26.800 --> 1:07:28.920 there's so much to work with there, and I feel 1:07:29.360 --> 1:07:32.480 a little bit bad about picking it apart from here 1:07:32.560 --> 1:07:35.640 from Afar, especially when we have the US former military 1:07:35.720 --> 1:07:38.720 guys that are in custody down there. But I mean, 1:07:38.760 --> 1:07:41.200 just a background of what's going on here by looking 1:07:41.200 --> 1:07:44.640 at that Silver Corp site and looking at what was 1:07:45.200 --> 1:07:48.520 to copy and pasted from the Department of Homeland Security site, 1:07:48.800 --> 1:07:51.680 looking at that in a fake video of this guy 1:07:51.920 --> 1:07:56.680 pretending to protect Trumpet at a rally, and some of 1:07:56.680 --> 1:07:59.080 the background there saying that they've advised that there are 1:07:59.080 --> 1:08:02.040 fifty countries around on the world and have it advised 1:08:02.080 --> 1:08:05.880 units like Delta Force and the sas like right away, 1:08:05.920 --> 1:08:07.680 there's some red flag there. We're learned to looking at 1:08:07.720 --> 1:08:10.880 a leadership from from the leadership type of perspective, like 1:08:10.880 --> 1:08:13.400 who's leading this thing? This fly By eventially a fly 1:08:13.520 --> 1:08:16.519 By Nite Corporation that was was thrown up at hawk 1:08:16.600 --> 1:08:19.120 it looks like. And then some of those things that 1:08:19.120 --> 1:08:21.559 those of us who have been in special operations would 1:08:21.560 --> 1:08:24.000 look at and say, this just doesn't add up here 1:08:24.240 --> 1:08:26.639 through this thing together, fifty countries around the world is weird. 1:08:26.720 --> 1:08:29.920 Video that's out there just doesn't doesn't make sense. So 1:08:29.920 --> 1:08:33.479 so there's that from from the get go and then 1:08:33.840 --> 1:08:36.040 you actually look at this thing is hey, look at 1:08:36.080 --> 1:08:38.360 the history here we have. We have so we can 1:08:38.400 --> 1:08:41.360 go back to the nineteen fifty three coup in Iran. Okay, 1:08:41.400 --> 1:08:43.479 we have some lessons learned out of that. We kind 1:08:43.479 --> 1:08:45.439 of got we wanted for a while out of it, 1:08:45.439 --> 1:08:48.080 although we're still dealing with the repercussions of that. Today. 1:08:48.640 --> 1:08:50.639 We have Bay of Pigs. We can learn a lot 1:08:50.840 --> 1:08:52.960 from that as well, and we have something like the 1:08:53.000 --> 1:08:55.559 in then we get more specific to this area the world, 1:08:55.560 --> 1:08:57.240 and we look at the invasion of Panama in nineteen 1:08:57.240 --> 1:09:00.400 eighty nine and we see something that worked. The guy 1:09:00.560 --> 1:09:03.200 that we were after. We have some lessons learned from 1:09:03.240 --> 1:09:05.160 that as well. And then we look at all that 1:09:05.160 --> 1:09:08.040 stuff holistically, in plus what we learned INTERAC and Afghanistan, 1:09:08.320 --> 1:09:10.880 and we look at that and apply it to this situation. 1:09:10.920 --> 1:09:12.800 And it looks like none of the lessons from any 1:09:12.840 --> 1:09:16.080 of these things were applied. If they really wanted to 1:09:16.120 --> 1:09:19.240 go in there, wanted to overthrow the government, wanted to 1:09:19.400 --> 1:09:22.040 essentially abduct the president and then take him two parts 1:09:22.120 --> 1:09:25.600 unknown to maybe collect his fifteen million dollars from the 1:09:25.680 --> 1:09:28.519 US government, that part's unclear. I mean if you had 1:09:28.600 --> 1:09:30.040 let me if you had. And this is not just 1:09:30.280 --> 1:09:32.920 in the theoretical space, right, so we understand. So you're saying, look, 1:09:32.920 --> 1:09:35.200 these guys, they didn't think it through, they didn't do 1:09:35.240 --> 1:09:39.240 they didn't have the lessons learned even from previous incursions 1:09:39.240 --> 1:09:42.639 into Latin America or other coups involving either US or 1:09:42.800 --> 1:09:45.040 other international personnel, so that they didn't really do the 1:09:45.080 --> 1:09:47.599 homework on it. From that respect, you said that you 1:09:47.640 --> 1:09:50.439 either want to be leading, mean, small and quiet, or 1:09:50.479 --> 1:09:52.360 you want to just do what you said Panama, like, 1:09:52.400 --> 1:09:54.479 we're going all in, We're gonna get one guy. We're 1:09:54.479 --> 1:09:56.920 going to control the battle space and then get this 1:09:57.000 --> 1:09:59.439 one guy instead of trying to sneak in the back 1:09:59.479 --> 1:10:02.640 door he or you know, a snatching grab like that. 1:10:02.800 --> 1:10:04.640 If you were trying to write for a novel, and 1:10:04.680 --> 1:10:06.760 you're Jack's a former Navy seal as you all know. 1:10:06.840 --> 1:10:08.760 But if you were trying to write for a novel here, 1:10:09.360 --> 1:10:11.800 you know, how would you would it? Would this be 1:10:13.200 --> 1:10:16.439 a dozen guys, twenty guys if they had the right intel, 1:10:16.720 --> 1:10:18.920 How could this work out in the real world? You 1:10:18.960 --> 1:10:20.280 know what I mean? If you were war gaming it, 1:10:20.360 --> 1:10:22.080 if you were trying to do a snatching grab, not 1:10:22.160 --> 1:10:23.960 a hit, right, we don't do that. If you're trying 1:10:23.960 --> 1:10:25.960 to do a snatch and grab, take this guy back 1:10:26.000 --> 1:10:28.360 to the US to face justice, how what would that 1:10:28.400 --> 1:10:30.479 look like? Well, that's I think that the problem is 1:10:30.479 --> 1:10:32.760 they looked at it through the lens of someone like 1:10:32.880 --> 1:10:35.559 me who is now writing fiction, instead of the lens 1:10:35.640 --> 1:10:39.840 of someone who's actually planning these things in real life, 1:10:39.960 --> 1:10:42.679 either at the CIA or the military or whatever else. 1:10:43.360 --> 1:10:46.720 So it looks like someone like me sat down and thought, well, 1:10:46.720 --> 1:10:50.479 it would be a great way, a great storyline, right, Yeah, 1:10:51.200 --> 1:10:53.280 was that a great storyline? Yeah, it's it's what it 1:10:53.280 --> 1:10:57.120 sounds like exactly. So yeah, real life, you either hit 1:10:57.160 --> 1:10:59.880 them hard full US government approach, You dominate that bat 1:11:00.080 --> 1:11:01.920 space like you said, grab your guy like we do 1:11:02.000 --> 1:11:04.719 with Noriega, to take him back for a trial. Okay, 1:11:04.800 --> 1:11:07.240 that's one way. The other way to do something like 1:11:07.280 --> 1:11:11.439 this in real life is through long term covert action 1:11:11.600 --> 1:11:16.400 penetration programs that your former employers are more familiar with, 1:11:16.520 --> 1:11:19.320 so you're not putting some guys in ninja suits sneaking 1:11:19.400 --> 1:11:21.680 through the streets of the capital of a country to 1:11:21.800 --> 1:11:25.320 go essentially to their White House to snatch the president 1:11:25.320 --> 1:11:27.519 and then get him to an airfield and fly him off, 1:11:27.600 --> 1:11:30.479 and what kind of an aircraft to wear. Like now 1:11:30.720 --> 1:11:32.120 we have we have some lessons to learn here, and 1:11:32.200 --> 1:11:35.679 what you would really do is activate those depenetration agents 1:11:35.920 --> 1:11:40.400 and you would either either it's assassination type thing, or 1:11:40.600 --> 1:11:43.200 you have people ready to go to step up and 1:11:43.320 --> 1:11:46.280 to essentially arrest like an actual who and arrest the 1:11:46.280 --> 1:11:49.960 president or doing things that are illegal and put him 1:11:50.000 --> 1:11:52.920 in prison and probably try him in that country, or 1:11:53.360 --> 1:11:57.360 work within the work within the existing battle space in 1:11:57.400 --> 1:12:00.320 some capacity, either personnel who understand what's really going on. 1:12:00.600 --> 1:12:02.400 It seems like that was I mean, it seems like 1:12:02.400 --> 1:12:04.320 this was in many ways for them an intelligence failure, 1:12:04.439 --> 1:12:07.240 intelligence victory unfortunately for the Maduro government because they saw 1:12:07.240 --> 1:12:09.719 it coming a mile away. But knowing stuff an event 1:12:09.840 --> 1:12:12.680 certainly it certainly helps. But Bett, if you if you're 1:12:12.720 --> 1:12:14.759 looking for some fodder for a book down the line, 1:12:14.760 --> 1:12:18.120 this certainly will provide it. Jack Carr, everybody check out 1:12:18.160 --> 1:12:20.240 the latest that he's got in the Terminal List series, 1:12:20.320 --> 1:12:22.840 Savage Son, what you're hearing me talking about on the show, 1:12:22.880 --> 1:12:24.439 because I am, in fact listening to it and it's 1:12:24.479 --> 1:12:28.000 great mister Jack car congrats again. I want to sign 1:12:28.360 --> 1:12:32.120 you know, Jack Carr slash Chris Pratt Savage sunbook. All right, 1:12:32.320 --> 1:12:36.240 one day, absolutely absolutely done. All right, Matt, thanks so 1:12:36.280 --> 1:12:39.240 much for joining us. Good to talk to you, dude. 1:12:39.280 --> 1:12:43.480 Take care. Thanks for listening to the Bus Sesson Show podcast. 1:12:43.840 --> 1:12:47.680 Remember to subscribe on Apple Podcast, the iHeartRadio app, or 1:12:47.680 --> 1:12:52.360 wherever you get your podcasts. It's Friday, so I wanted 1:12:52.360 --> 1:12:54.920 to give you guys all the great voices, all the 1:12:55.000 --> 1:12:57.439 great special on air treats I could, And with that 1:12:57.520 --> 1:12:59.960 in mind, we had to go with all six food 1:13:00.160 --> 1:13:02.880 ten of him. Jesse Kelly joins us now, the host 1:13:02.920 --> 1:13:06.000 of I'm Right with Jesse Kelly on Pluto TVs. The 1:13:06.120 --> 1:13:10.960 first also the syndicated radio host, mister Jesse Kelly and 1:13:11.200 --> 1:13:13.320 one day perhaps even who knows President of the United 1:13:13.320 --> 1:13:15.320 States or something. Jesse Kelly. He's got all. He's got 1:13:15.320 --> 1:13:18.280 big aspirations for himself. Although today I will tell you 1:13:18.720 --> 1:13:21.200 he is. He's out there and he is going the 1:13:21.240 --> 1:13:23.519 full Miami vice right now, because I can see him 1:13:23.560 --> 1:13:26.400 as we're doing this interview, and he's like Don Johnson 1:13:26.439 --> 1:13:29.439 in the eighties, except his shirt is not pink, but 1:13:29.479 --> 1:13:32.360 He's wearing a T shirt with a blazer. I'm sorry, 1:13:32.439 --> 1:13:35.639 is it is this like two for one night out 1:13:35.680 --> 1:13:37.800 in Boca or something? What's going on here with the 1:13:38.280 --> 1:13:40.880 T shirt and the blazer? Jesse? You know, you know 1:13:40.880 --> 1:13:43.360 what this is called? Buck? This is called Friday mode. Man, 1:13:43.400 --> 1:13:46.120 this is called Friday mode. Just laid back and chilling. 1:13:46.240 --> 1:13:50.000 I mean, look, I'm always the best, but on Friday, 1:13:49.960 --> 1:13:52.920 I'd like to give people the best version of relaxed Jesse, 1:13:53.000 --> 1:13:55.799 because I'm here to get you and all your amazing 1:13:55.880 --> 1:13:58.280 viewers into the weekend mode. And that's what I'm here for. 1:13:58.479 --> 1:14:01.240 I just I feel like it also led me astray 1:14:01.280 --> 1:14:04.040 in the in the early days on Miami Vice, I figured, Wow, 1:14:04.080 --> 1:14:07.240 you can be a cop and drive around in the 1:14:07.320 --> 1:14:09.639 equivalent of like a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars 1:14:09.640 --> 1:14:12.920 ferrari as long as you live on a houseboat and 1:14:13.040 --> 1:14:17.800 have a pet alligator. There you go. You know what 1:14:17.840 --> 1:14:21.760 else Miami Vice did, and all Miami TV shows and 1:14:21.840 --> 1:14:25.280 movies do this exact same thing. Miami Beach is a 1:14:25.320 --> 1:14:27.879 beautiful place and it has some of the most beautiful 1:14:28.000 --> 1:14:30.320 women you've ever seen in your life. So all that's true, 1:14:30.680 --> 1:14:34.040 but almost every time they show Miami shows, or they 1:14:34.040 --> 1:14:37.320 show Miami on a show or movies, they always make 1:14:37.360 --> 1:14:41.840 it look as if it's some tropical paradise, some glistening paradise, 1:14:42.080 --> 1:14:46.120 when so many parts of Nia of Miami are absolutely 1:14:46.360 --> 1:14:49.880 run down holes. It has beautiful parts to it. But 1:14:50.040 --> 1:14:52.800 I have felt more unsafe in Miami than I ever 1:14:52.840 --> 1:14:55.479 did in Baghdad. Right, Well, I was gonna say Miami 1:14:55.600 --> 1:14:58.600 Vice was like a tourism ad for a city that 1:14:58.680 --> 1:15:02.719 actually in the eight in the eighties, there were broad daylight, 1:15:02.920 --> 1:15:06.760 full on machine gun shootouts between cartel assassins. It was 1:15:06.800 --> 1:15:09.800 one of the most violent places in the world for 1:15:10.439 --> 1:15:13.280 civilian crime stuff. It was out of control. But it 1:15:13.320 --> 1:15:16.600 was a great show. It's worse. It's worse than that 1:15:16.680 --> 1:15:19.160 it was a great show. It's worse that people don't realize, 1:15:19.320 --> 1:15:23.559 like the entire Miami Skyline was built on cocaine money. 1:15:23.600 --> 1:15:25.479 Oh yeah, not making that up. That's not just like 1:15:25.560 --> 1:15:28.639 something that the crazy thing to say. You can watch 1:15:28.680 --> 1:15:32.519 the documentary Cocaine cowboysmentary called Cocaine Cowboy, Yep, that's right, 1:15:32.640 --> 1:15:34.320 and they talk about it how all of a sudden 1:15:34.360 --> 1:15:36.320 there was a bank on every corner because they're all 1:15:36.400 --> 1:15:40.240 laundering money and virtually everything you see in Miami was 1:15:40.280 --> 1:15:42.760 built from cocaine. It's just and when you go there 1:15:43.000 --> 1:15:46.280 you realize why. So, Jesse, I was gonna ask you 1:15:46.280 --> 1:15:47.920 about some of the news the day, but I also 1:15:48.320 --> 1:15:51.479 wanted to get your take on the Waco series, even 1:15:51.520 --> 1:15:52.800 if you haven't seen it. I just want to get 1:15:52.800 --> 1:15:54.840 your take on Waco in general. But the Waco series 1:15:54.840 --> 1:15:59.440 on Netflix is. I finished it last night. It's phenomenal. 1:16:00.200 --> 1:16:02.320 Taylor Kitch should have gotten some kind of I don't 1:16:02.360 --> 1:16:03.840 know if you got any awards, but not that I e. 1:16:03.840 --> 1:16:06.120 One cares about those awards these days. But he gave 1:16:06.160 --> 1:16:09.400 a remarkable performances. David Koresh and I was just noting that, 1:16:09.439 --> 1:16:11.719 you know, it's a tough week for the FBI, given 1:16:11.720 --> 1:16:14.439 the stuff with Flynn and now also a lot more 1:16:14.479 --> 1:16:17.200 people have seen this Waco situation. First off, have you 1:16:17.200 --> 1:16:19.400 seen the show? In second, just in general, even if 1:16:19.400 --> 1:16:22.360 you haven't seen it, what what should people remember about 1:16:22.360 --> 1:16:27.800 what happened in Waco, Texas at that standoff with Feds. Well, one, 1:16:28.000 --> 1:16:31.799 I'm two episodes in, but two I have seen the story. 1:16:31.880 --> 1:16:33.680 I obviously know the story very well. I know the 1:16:33.760 --> 1:16:36.559 Ruby Ridge story too, which obviously they cover in Waco, 1:16:36.680 --> 1:16:40.680 which is as bad or worse than Waco actually was. 1:16:40.720 --> 1:16:42.360 I mean, not for total loss of life, but it 1:16:42.400 --> 1:16:44.880 was really really ugly. And look, all people should take 1:16:44.920 --> 1:16:49.960 away from it is you can't necessarily trust the criminal 1:16:50.000 --> 1:16:53.240 justice system and you can't necessarily trust the government. I'm 1:16:53.240 --> 1:16:56.000 not saying you need to rebel against it, but there 1:16:56.120 --> 1:16:58.320 is this way of thinking in America that you have 1:16:58.439 --> 1:17:01.720 to either you know, respect police, or you have to 1:17:01.760 --> 1:17:05.519 be this anti cops scumbag. You can actually just be 1:17:05.640 --> 1:17:09.720 a normal, well reasoned, thinking human being who realizes that 1:17:09.840 --> 1:17:13.040 cops law enforcement in general, most of them are putting 1:17:13.080 --> 1:17:15.360 their butts on the line for you every single day, 1:17:15.680 --> 1:17:18.840 while at the same time they are the enforcement arm 1:17:18.920 --> 1:17:21.680 for every bad government policy there is. We see it 1:17:21.800 --> 1:17:25.320 right now when they're locking up salon owners. It's the 1:17:25.400 --> 1:17:29.160 history of the world says that cops in the military 1:17:29.320 --> 1:17:33.360 will be used by an overreaching government to enforce bad policies. 1:17:33.479 --> 1:17:36.000 And Americans, especially people on the right, when you've heard 1:17:36.040 --> 1:17:39.120 our people do this book of Oh, the military would 1:17:39.680 --> 1:17:43.840 never enforce these anti constitutional gun laws. Oh, cops would 1:17:43.880 --> 1:17:46.679 never go along with that. I hope you're all paying 1:17:46.720 --> 1:17:49.680 attention now, you've all seen a two month example of 1:17:49.960 --> 1:17:53.080 they will go along with anything they're told to do 1:17:53.320 --> 1:17:55.760 because it's their mortgage on the line, it's their car 1:17:55.840 --> 1:17:58.000 payment on the line. The government tells them to go 1:17:58.120 --> 1:18:00.639 arrest some poor stap for paddle boarding in the ocean, 1:18:00.840 --> 1:18:03.200 it's mobilized. The police votes, Baby, they're going to go 1:18:03.240 --> 1:18:06.439 put him in. Comes Jesse. Actually, that's that's a perfect 1:18:06.439 --> 1:18:09.439 transition as well into this story that's now getting a 1:18:09.439 --> 1:18:13.679 lot of attention because the President has commented. Actually, a producer, Mark, 1:18:13.760 --> 1:18:16.920 do you have the Do you have the president's comments 1:18:16.960 --> 1:18:18.640 on this one? If you do, just play it and 1:18:18.640 --> 1:18:20.760 I'll tell Jesse when we come back from Yeah, play 1:18:20.760 --> 1:18:24.439 clip seven. So I saw the tape and it's very, 1:18:24.560 --> 1:18:27.519 very disturbing. The tape I got to see it. It's 1:18:27.600 --> 1:18:30.240 very disturbing. I looked at a picture of that young 1:18:30.320 --> 1:18:33.200 man who was at a tuxedo and in fact, you 1:18:33.240 --> 1:18:36.880 put it up and I will say that that looks 1:18:36.920 --> 1:18:41.760 like a really good young guy, and it looks very 1:18:41.800 --> 1:18:44.360 it's a very disturbing situation to me, and I just 1:18:44.680 --> 1:18:46.600 you know, my heart goes out to the parents and 1:18:46.680 --> 1:18:49.720 the family and the friends, but yet we have to 1:18:49.760 --> 1:18:52.000 take it. You know, law enforcement's going to look at it, 1:18:52.040 --> 1:18:55.280 and they have a good governor in the state, and 1:18:55.360 --> 1:18:58.760 he's going to very good governor actually, and he's going 1:18:58.840 --> 1:19:01.800 to be looking added very strongly, and he's going to 1:19:01.880 --> 1:19:04.800 do what's right. But it's a it's a heartbreaking thing. 1:19:04.840 --> 1:19:08.080 You know, it's very rough, rough stuff. So Jesse President 1:19:08.080 --> 1:19:12.120 Trump saying that the video that he's seen of Ahmed 1:19:12.320 --> 1:19:17.200 Ahmed Arbury is heartbreaking stuff. It looks really bad. You know, 1:19:17.320 --> 1:19:19.400 they've got a good governor. Though they're gonna look into this. 1:19:19.760 --> 1:19:22.280 Law enforcement now has taken action to arresting people. They 1:19:22.320 --> 1:19:24.320 seem to be a tremendous amount of back and forth 1:19:24.360 --> 1:19:27.320 on social media. I came a little late to this story. 1:19:27.600 --> 1:19:29.559 I feel like I've just been looking at it last 1:19:29.880 --> 1:19:34.240 twenty four hours. But what we had mister Arbury was 1:19:34.400 --> 1:19:39.639 jogging two guys who are near their pickup truck. They 1:19:39.640 --> 1:19:42.240 had shotguns and they tried to get him to stop, 1:19:42.800 --> 1:19:44.840 and they said, I believe that they were trying to 1:19:44.920 --> 1:19:47.439 affect the citizens arrest because of burglaries that had happened 1:19:47.439 --> 1:19:51.439 in the neighborhood. Arbury had some kind of you know, 1:19:52.000 --> 1:19:54.920 some kind of confrontation with them that these guys forced 1:19:55.080 --> 1:19:57.320 and then he got shot and he was killed. Now 1:19:57.360 --> 1:20:00.880 there's video of it, And first off is the narrative, 1:20:00.960 --> 1:20:02.639 and I might be a little off as a narrative 1:20:03.280 --> 1:20:05.960 essentially right on the facts there, And what's your take 1:20:06.040 --> 1:20:08.360 on what happened here and what doesn't seem like there 1:20:08.400 --> 1:20:10.519 should be much argument. It looks like these guys killed 1:20:10.520 --> 1:20:12.439 this guy and they're not cops, and what the heck 1:20:12.439 --> 1:20:14.840 were they doing? Well, there's not much argument out there. 1:20:14.880 --> 1:20:17.719 People are acting as if oh, this is a wire 1:20:17.720 --> 1:20:20.719 and wire people standing up against this. Virtually every single 1:20:20.760 --> 1:20:23.360 person is standing against this. It's not much of an argument. 1:20:23.400 --> 1:20:25.280 This is not one of those cases where you see 1:20:25.280 --> 1:20:27.840 like five seconds of a police video that looks really 1:20:27.880 --> 1:20:30.599 bad and everyone jumps to conclusions and then you get 1:20:30.640 --> 1:20:32.839 the rest of the story and all of a sudden, 1:20:32.840 --> 1:20:35.120 you look like an idiot. No, we saw the whole 1:20:35.120 --> 1:20:37.679 thing on video. We have all the background on it. 1:20:37.680 --> 1:20:40.960 It looks like a former police officer. That's the dad 1:20:41.200 --> 1:20:44.599 and his son. The dad apparently had some sort of 1:20:44.640 --> 1:20:48.400 investigative history with this Ahmud Arbore, so he knew him 1:20:48.400 --> 1:20:51.240 in some way. But they tried to stop him with 1:20:51.320 --> 1:20:53.880 weapons when the guy was apparently out jogging. There was 1:20:53.920 --> 1:20:56.840 not even an accusation that he was doing anything wrong. 1:20:56.880 --> 1:20:59.240 We even have a nine one one transcript of them 1:20:59.240 --> 1:21:01.840 calling nine on one of the operators asking why are 1:21:01.840 --> 1:21:04.320 you calling nine one one, and they essentially say, well, 1:21:04.400 --> 1:21:06.720 I mean, I don't really know. They don't have an answer. Look, 1:21:06.720 --> 1:21:09.920 it looks bad. It is bad. The bad part is 1:21:09.960 --> 1:21:12.160 this happened in February. Man, we all saw the video 1:21:12.240 --> 1:21:15.960 yesterday and those guys were just arrested last night after 1:21:16.000 --> 1:21:18.839 all this social media rage we saw and it shouldn't 1:21:18.880 --> 1:21:21.600 take that and people were losing faith in law enforcement. 1:21:21.680 --> 1:21:24.360 So all that's bad, But allow me to also say 1:21:24.400 --> 1:21:28.439 this one. This is not an opportunity for people like 1:21:28.560 --> 1:21:32.439 Lebron James to become some civil rights leader, which he 1:21:32.520 --> 1:21:35.599 badly wants to be talking about how black men are 1:21:35.640 --> 1:21:38.599 out there being hunted. We don't know that, we don't 1:21:38.680 --> 1:21:41.640 know a motivation. We can talk about the fact that 1:21:41.720 --> 1:21:45.280 an innocent man was apparently gunned down and feel for 1:21:45.360 --> 1:21:48.639 his family without instantly making everything as if you're Martin 1:21:48.720 --> 1:21:52.639 Luther King, You're not stop with that. That's one. Two. 1:21:53.040 --> 1:21:55.400 The people on the right. I see it. This drives 1:21:55.439 --> 1:21:57.880 me crazy. I've seen it all over the media. Of 1:21:58.160 --> 1:22:01.080 this there's a modern day lynching. We can't have this 1:22:01.280 --> 1:22:03.439 lynching of all these people on the right with the 1:22:03.640 --> 1:22:07.200 stupid language. People, just because the left has called you 1:22:07.320 --> 1:22:11.080 racist for the last thirty years doesn't mean you are, 1:22:11.439 --> 1:22:14.240 and it doesn't mean you have to overcompensate every time 1:22:14.280 --> 1:22:16.719 a black dude gets killed to try to really prove 1:22:16.760 --> 1:22:19.360 how not racist you are. I have black friends, I 1:22:19.400 --> 1:22:22.320 said lynching. Doesn't that make me one of the increp people. 1:22:22.400 --> 1:22:24.559 You can just judge each case as it is. The 1:22:24.680 --> 1:22:27.639 dude wasn't a black man. It was a dude who 1:22:27.640 --> 1:22:30.600 got murdered. That's really bad. It's bad enough. Feel for 1:22:30.680 --> 1:22:33.840 his family, cry for justice, which we're apparently going to 1:22:33.880 --> 1:22:36.519 get in. It's fine, you're not Martin Luther King. You 1:22:36.560 --> 1:22:38.920 don't have to check out all the wop boxes. Just 1:22:39.000 --> 1:22:41.320 because the left has been lying about what you believe 1:22:42.360 --> 1:22:44.120 co sign I mean, I think I think that pretty 1:22:44.160 --> 1:22:45.920 much covers it on that case. And it looks like 1:22:45.960 --> 1:22:48.080 it looks like a you know, then these guys like 1:22:48.200 --> 1:22:51.240 a charge with manslaughter or murder and unless there's something 1:22:51.280 --> 1:22:53.160 we don't really know, which doesn't seem like there is. 1:22:53.200 --> 1:22:54.920 They should spend a whole lot of time in prison. 1:22:55.000 --> 1:22:58.120 And that's the way it is. You know, I will 1:22:58.160 --> 1:23:00.519 tell you. I will tell you started interrupt the real quick. 1:23:00.720 --> 1:23:03.240 I always because I'm so hesitated on these things, because 1:23:03.240 --> 1:23:06.160 of all the outrage, I'm hesitant to ever or ever 1:23:06.240 --> 1:23:08.600 even comment on it. I looked into this quite a 1:23:08.640 --> 1:23:12.360 bit over the last twenty four hours. It is apparently 1:23:12.439 --> 1:23:15.640 as bad as it looked initially. It looks pretty open. Well, 1:23:15.640 --> 1:23:17.960 I just think about it from from the end. You know, 1:23:18.120 --> 1:23:20.040 you always hear this stuff from from the left wing 1:23:20.080 --> 1:23:22.680 media of Oh, and even now, I'm like, there's was 1:23:22.720 --> 1:23:25.400 there any controversy? I didn't hear any controversy. You're like, no, 1:23:25.439 --> 1:23:27.280 there's no I mean when I say there's no controversy, 1:23:27.280 --> 1:23:30.880 there's no two sides that are one side saying yeah, 1:23:30.920 --> 1:23:32.880 this looks like it's totally I haven't seen anyone say 1:23:32.920 --> 1:23:35.639 this looks this looks like it was a clean shoot 1:23:35.800 --> 1:23:38.559 or a legal shoot or a you know, law enforcement 1:23:38.600 --> 1:23:41.160 uses different terms for its self defense. I haven't seen 1:23:41.200 --> 1:23:43.439 anybody making that case based on the video. And it 1:23:43.479 --> 1:23:46.320 reminds me of when that guy that that African American 1:23:46.320 --> 1:23:48.160 man was shot running away from the cop. I think 1:23:48.160 --> 1:23:50.200 it was in South Carolina, and there was all this 1:23:50.320 --> 1:23:53.839 lib outrage about see conservatives or even defending this. Every 1:23:53.840 --> 1:23:56.960 single conservative and media I know was like, that was murder. 1:23:57.120 --> 1:23:59.360 Send that dude who shot him to prison for like 1:24:00.160 --> 1:24:03.360 there was no there wasn't a back and forth over that, 1:24:03.439 --> 1:24:08.639 Like people don't actually defend people murdering other people on 1:24:08.680 --> 1:24:11.320 the right and the left seems to like to pretend 1:24:11.360 --> 1:24:13.920 this game that pretend that that's what happens. But I 1:24:14.160 --> 1:24:16.960 think I think we've pretty much covered where this one is. 1:24:17.200 --> 1:24:19.280 We're speaking of Jesse Kelly everybody. He is the host 1:24:19.280 --> 1:24:21.679 of the Jesse Kelly Show on radio, and also I'm 1:24:21.760 --> 1:24:24.519 right with Jesse Kelly on Pluto TV's the first which 1:24:24.520 --> 1:24:25.720 is why I can see him, which is why I'm 1:24:25.720 --> 1:24:28.080 giving a hard time about his Miami Vice outfit today. 1:24:28.520 --> 1:24:30.880 But I also wanted to transition Jesse, because you're one 1:24:30.880 --> 1:24:32.519 of the You're one of the few. I mean, I 1:24:32.560 --> 1:24:37.160 can kind of count most of the skeptics out there, 1:24:37.439 --> 1:24:39.080 And when I say skeptics, I just mean people that 1:24:39.160 --> 1:24:41.240 ask questions, right, people that are saying, hold on a 1:24:41.240 --> 1:24:43.840 second about this. You've been very vocal about the damage 1:24:43.880 --> 1:24:46.120 the economy and how the lockdowns were a bad idea. 1:24:46.640 --> 1:24:49.280 I was even more vocal about it for me initially, 1:24:49.280 --> 1:24:51.000 and then I was just like, Okay, people are crazy. 1:24:51.040 --> 1:24:53.240 I can't even I can't take this. And now I'm like, 1:24:53.240 --> 1:24:54.880 all right, this has gotten so bad, I'm gonna be 1:24:54.960 --> 1:24:58.400 vocal about it again. And there are few barrens in 1:25:00.000 --> 1:25:02.680 I don't know, Matt Walsh is very very much in 1:25:02.760 --> 1:25:05.400 favor of reopened. I mean, there's like a few dozen 1:25:05.439 --> 1:25:07.400 of us that I've been yelling about this for a 1:25:07.479 --> 1:25:11.320 long time online. What's it going to take, man? When? 1:25:11.520 --> 1:25:13.839 Because I guess now has it just become so political 1:25:14.160 --> 1:25:15.920 that it doesn't matter how much suffering there is and 1:25:16.000 --> 1:25:17.840 how many people are losing their businesses and their life 1:25:17.840 --> 1:25:20.360 savings in the process. As long as this crush is Trump, 1:25:20.400 --> 1:25:21.920 it's worth it two people. Is that where we are? 1:25:24.000 --> 1:25:26.360 To be honest, Buck, It's even worse than that. It's 1:25:26.400 --> 1:25:28.840 all a game of percentages, man, It's all a game 1:25:28.880 --> 1:25:32.080 of percentages. The pull after poll after poller continually shows 1:25:32.280 --> 1:25:34.800 that sixty seventy percent of the people are okay with us, 1:25:34.840 --> 1:25:37.479 and the reason for that is Yeah, we've got forty 1:25:37.560 --> 1:25:40.479 fifty million Americans probably unemployed. That's probably the real number. 1:25:40.520 --> 1:25:42.519 It's top thirty three million. It's a lot more than that. 1:25:42.600 --> 1:25:46.599 Everyone knows that, but virtually everyone else is either still 1:25:46.680 --> 1:25:50.160 getting a paycheck or because of that idiot bill they 1:25:50.240 --> 1:25:52.639 passed at two three and dollar bill, everyone was cheering. 1:25:53.080 --> 1:25:56.040 They're paying people the equivalent of fifty two thousand dollars 1:25:56.080 --> 1:25:59.320 a year to be unemployed. I personally know business owners 1:25:59.439 --> 1:26:02.160 more than one who have called their employees because we're 1:26:02.160 --> 1:26:04.599 opening back up in Texas and said, hey, it's about 1:26:04.640 --> 1:26:06.560 time to get back to work, and their employees have said, no, 1:26:06.720 --> 1:26:09.400 I'm making more money now. So not only have we 1:26:09.600 --> 1:26:13.639 crushed jobs, but we're paying people to stay home. Therefore, 1:26:13.840 --> 1:26:17.000 most of the public, not all, I'd say thirty percent 1:26:17.040 --> 1:26:19.160 of the public, wants to open back up. The rest 1:26:19.200 --> 1:26:21.320 of the people were either still getting to check or 1:26:21.360 --> 1:26:24.240 they're making more money on unemployment. So the politicians look 1:26:24.280 --> 1:26:27.160 at these numbers and think, keep them locked down, and 1:26:27.360 --> 1:26:29.800 we are kicking this can down the road, and the 1:26:29.920 --> 1:26:33.559 pain is now just because it's delayed. Oh, it's it's 1:26:33.640 --> 1:26:35.920 really really bad, buck, I don't I know. It's a Friday. 1:26:35.920 --> 1:26:37.880 I don't want to bring anybody down, But as bad 1:26:37.920 --> 1:26:40.200 as you think it is, if I were to actually 1:26:40.240 --> 1:26:42.759 go into all the details of what's happening in this economy, 1:26:43.120 --> 1:26:45.760 it's ten times worse than that. We are what's going 1:26:45.840 --> 1:26:49.640 to take serious the problem here? And you know the politicians, 1:26:50.160 --> 1:26:53.320 you know Cuomo and these people that have been heralded 1:26:53.360 --> 1:26:55.640 in the media. Has Cuomo has been a disaster in 1:26:55.680 --> 1:26:59.320 New York. I mean his contribution so far has been long, 1:26:59.720 --> 1:27:02.800 overblown press conferences that didn't give us data that we 1:27:02.800 --> 1:27:05.360 couldn't have gotten in two slides in two minutes, and 1:27:05.479 --> 1:27:08.639 then also sending people with COVID nineteen back into nursing homes. 1:27:08.840 --> 1:27:11.679 That's been his contribution to the fight against COVID nineteen 1:27:11.720 --> 1:27:13.679 in New York. It's it's been an end complaining about 1:27:13.720 --> 1:27:16.640 ventilators and then turns out we don't need them. But 1:27:16.880 --> 1:27:19.160 the fact that people and this is my concern, that 1:27:19.320 --> 1:27:23.599 people in a majority still want the lockdown to continue. 1:27:23.600 --> 1:27:25.559 You broke down why some people are still getting a paycheck. 1:27:25.640 --> 1:27:28.680 Some people don't understand the economic implications. What does it 1:27:28.880 --> 1:27:32.880 take for that number nationally to move so that people 1:27:32.960 --> 1:27:38.000 realize we've got has to become personal for enough people, 1:27:38.000 --> 1:27:39.960 and it hasn't yet. That's just the truth of the matter. 1:27:40.040 --> 1:27:42.120 But for two months, a lot most people or either 1:27:42.200 --> 1:27:45.519 collected unemployment. They're watching Netflix, they're bay drinking, which God 1:27:45.840 --> 1:27:48.000 God love them for that. But as soon as people 1:27:48.080 --> 1:27:50.360 start showing up at the supermarket and there's no meat, 1:27:50.439 --> 1:27:53.479 then they'll realize. As soon as the unemployment checks stopped coming, 1:27:53.560 --> 1:27:56.160 then they'll realize as soon as we open back up 1:27:56.400 --> 1:27:59.160 and you have exactly half of the restaurants who used 1:27:59.200 --> 1:28:01.640 to have, and they'll realize. I mean, people are not 1:28:01.760 --> 1:28:05.559 gonna it's official now. We live in a country. Sadly, 1:28:06.000 --> 1:28:09.320 unless until it becomes personal, people don't care. I thought 1:28:09.439 --> 1:28:11.559 the one, the one thing I've ever been wrong about 1:28:11.600 --> 1:28:13.840 ever in my life, buck was at the very beginning 1:28:13.880 --> 1:28:15.479 of this I told everybody we were going to have 1:28:15.600 --> 1:28:18.280 thirty plus million unemployed people. Everyone told me I was 1:28:18.360 --> 1:28:20.080 an idiot and I was wrong, and of course I 1:28:20.160 --> 1:28:22.160 turned out to be right, like always. But what I 1:28:22.320 --> 1:28:26.040 said was, once we hit that number, America will freak 1:28:26.120 --> 1:28:28.240 out and wake up, and they'll turn on a diamond 1:28:28.280 --> 1:28:30.920 say open us back up. That's what I was wrong about. 1:28:31.080 --> 1:28:34.200 They still don't give a crap until fifty one percent 1:28:34.280 --> 1:28:37.479 of this population is flat broken, busted, we won't open 1:28:37.560 --> 1:28:41.840 back up again. Thank you, right, which is really disconcerting, 1:28:42.200 --> 1:28:44.840 But he is right because that's the name of his show. 1:28:44.960 --> 1:28:47.679 I'm right with Jesse Kelly. That's the place you should 1:28:47.680 --> 1:28:49.880 go on Pluto TV to check him out. Also listen 1:28:49.920 --> 1:28:53.400 to Jesse Kelly Show and down in KPRC Houston. It's 1:28:53.400 --> 1:28:55.680 a fantastic radio lineup there. They have Jesse Kelly and 1:28:55.800 --> 1:28:57.840 Buck Sexton, so that makes it the best radio station 1:28:57.920 --> 1:29:01.000 in Houston, no question. Chuck him out, Jesse, thanks for 1:29:01.040 --> 1:29:06.320 your time. Man, been good man. You're in the Freedom High. 1:29:06.760 --> 1:29:13.479 This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. I mean it's 1:29:13.520 --> 1:29:17.760 been stunning. Actually, how the some of his surrogates with 1:29:17.880 --> 1:29:20.080 the blue checks. You know that our historians have been 1:29:20.120 --> 1:29:23.320 saying really horrible things about me and to me on 1:29:23.479 --> 1:29:27.200 social media. He hasn't himself, but there is a measure 1:29:27.240 --> 1:29:30.280 of hypocrisy with the campaign saying it's safe. It's not 1:29:30.400 --> 1:29:33.400 been safe. You know, all my social media has been hacked, 1:29:33.800 --> 1:29:37.200 All my personal information has been dragged through every person 1:29:37.640 --> 1:29:41.000 that maybe has a gripe against me, an ex boyfriend 1:29:41.080 --> 1:29:43.160 or an ex landlord or whatever it is, has been 1:29:43.160 --> 1:29:46.960 able to have a platform rather than me talking about 1:29:47.080 --> 1:29:49.840 things that have nothing to do with nineteen ninety three, 1:29:50.320 --> 1:29:53.639 like even the whole thing with being called a Russian agent, 1:29:53.840 --> 1:29:58.280 that in particular that incites people people. Actually I got 1:29:58.360 --> 1:29:59.920 a death threat from that because they thought I was 1:30:00.040 --> 1:30:02.479 being a traitor to America. And I mean, these are 1:30:02.640 --> 1:30:06.760 serious things, and his campaign is taking this position that 1:30:06.840 --> 1:30:09.799 they want all women to be able to speak safely. 1:30:10.280 --> 1:30:13.680 I have not experienced that. We will not forget the 1:30:13.800 --> 1:30:17.080 allegations against Joe Biden here on the show, nor will 1:30:17.120 --> 1:30:21.920 we allow it to go without notice that there are 1:30:22.080 --> 1:30:24.400 people who are working for the election of Joe Biden, 1:30:24.439 --> 1:30:28.160 who are supporting him, who are trying desperately to silence 1:30:28.560 --> 1:30:33.200 terror Reid and her thus far entirely credible, not proven, 1:30:33.439 --> 1:30:37.560 but credible allegation of sexual assault that does have contemporaneous corroboration. 1:30:38.680 --> 1:30:42.040 We're not going to let this go. The Democrats, the Libs, 1:30:42.120 --> 1:30:44.960 they pretend to have certain principles, certain goals in mind 1:30:45.040 --> 1:30:48.120 for women, and we know that they're frauds and we 1:30:48.200 --> 1:30:50.000 will hold them accountable for that. So I know, we 1:30:50.040 --> 1:30:51.560 didn't talk about this much that in the show, but 1:30:51.600 --> 1:30:53.360 I will deep dive with you on this on Monday. 1:30:53.720 --> 1:30:56.360 Don't think that I'm letting this one slide. Joe Biden 1:30:56.640 --> 1:30:59.240 and the Democrats are going to answer for what they 1:30:59.320 --> 1:31:02.280 need to here. It's going to happen. Thanks for listening 1:31:02.320 --> 1:31:06.679 to the Bus Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcast, 1:31:06.920 --> 1:31:11.320 the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. Like 1:31:11.560 --> 1:31:15.200 Soft Butter on Warm Toast. Time to spread some freedom 1:31:15.320 --> 1:31:28.920 coast to coast. 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Oh, people download that, and it seems 1:31:58.920 --> 1:32:00.600 like that's an easier listening. But we put out the 1:32:00.640 --> 1:32:04.160 whole show every day, and you wonderful folks who do 1:32:04.439 --> 1:32:06.920 me the constant honor of giving me some of your time, 1:32:07.000 --> 1:32:10.600 and producer Mark giving us some of your time. You 1:32:10.880 --> 1:32:13.240 are listening to the whole show, and that really means 1:32:13.280 --> 1:32:15.120 a lot to us. So please continue to spread the 1:32:15.160 --> 1:32:20.040 word about the buck Sexton Show podcast and we'll continue 1:32:20.040 --> 1:32:22.320 doing what we do here. Remember, you can listen to 1:32:22.400 --> 1:32:24.120 it on Spotify is really easy for those of you 1:32:24.200 --> 1:32:27.040 are on Spotify, the iHeart app. You can also go 1:32:27.160 --> 1:32:31.200 to the Apple Podcasts or just the Apple podcast app. 1:32:31.280 --> 1:32:33.640 As a type in buck Sexton. It should pop up 1:32:33.720 --> 1:32:38.520 very very straightforward. So please do listen and as importantly, 1:32:38.880 --> 1:32:42.040 tell people about the show really helps us out. All right, 1:32:42.200 --> 1:32:46.120 roll call David, Oh, and YouTube, I can't forget YouTube 1:32:46.160 --> 1:32:48.080 dot com slash buck Sexton if you want to see 1:32:48.120 --> 1:32:50.200 what we're doing on the on the Pluto TV channel, 1:32:50.320 --> 1:32:53.080 and we'll also post some exclusive content there. We're going 1:32:53.120 --> 1:32:54.880 to be doing more and more of that. You know. 1:32:54.920 --> 1:32:56.559 The problem I have now is I'm spending so many 1:32:56.600 --> 1:32:59.040 hours every day doing radio that I really actually am 1:32:59.120 --> 1:33:00.720 running out of time to do anything else than any 1:33:00.760 --> 1:33:04.599 given day. So because I'm doing five hours of radio, 1:33:04.800 --> 1:33:07.559 which is a lot for anybody, five hours of solo radio. 1:33:07.560 --> 1:33:09.680 I've never heard of anyone else doing that. I'm sure 1:33:09.720 --> 1:33:12.160 there are some people who have done it, but I 1:33:12.280 --> 1:33:16.439 don't know. That's not not common. David Wright saying, hey, Buck, 1:33:16.720 --> 1:33:19.200 you're a few years younger than I am. But I 1:33:19.280 --> 1:33:21.559 remember when I was a kid, if somebody got chicken pox, 1:33:21.640 --> 1:33:24.320 our parents would have chicken pox parties so we could 1:33:24.320 --> 1:33:26.040 all get out of the way. I'll be a different, 1:33:26.120 --> 1:33:30.400 different virus, but same premise. And David, I've heard of this, 1:33:30.439 --> 1:33:32.519 And yeah, I think people have done this with I mean, 1:33:32.600 --> 1:33:34.920 I think measles is more dangerous than chicken pox. I 1:33:35.000 --> 1:33:37.560 don't really know, though, so don't take my word on 1:33:37.640 --> 1:33:40.760 that one. Yeah, I've heard of this. Um, you know, 1:33:41.040 --> 1:33:44.760 chicken pox can actually come back later on in life 1:33:44.840 --> 1:33:50.360 as shingles too, And interestingly enough, I, as a teenager 1:33:50.800 --> 1:33:53.160 had I had I had chicken poxes a little kid, 1:33:53.520 --> 1:33:55.920 but I actually had shingles as a teenager, which is 1:33:56.200 --> 1:33:59.680 very rare, and they had no idea why. But yeah, 1:33:59.720 --> 1:34:02.080 I had full blown shingles when I was about eighteen. 1:34:02.920 --> 1:34:05.800 And to give you a sense of how brilliant doctors are. 1:34:05.840 --> 1:34:08.800 The first dermatologist, a specialist that I went to, thought 1:34:08.880 --> 1:34:12.719 that it was spider bites. It was not spider bites. 1:34:13.320 --> 1:34:15.720 I had to go back and because it spread and 1:34:15.880 --> 1:34:18.320 grew and was very painful. It was on the trunk, 1:34:18.800 --> 1:34:20.639 on my body, and they still I was like, why 1:34:20.680 --> 1:34:22.360 am I getting I'm a healthy kid, I was eighteen, 1:34:22.439 --> 1:34:24.559 I was in great shape. I felt fine, Why am 1:34:24.600 --> 1:34:26.240 I getting shingle? You know, usually it happens people with 1:34:26.280 --> 1:34:28.560 a weekend immune system when they're older, and it's a 1:34:28.880 --> 1:34:34.920 recurrence of the chicken pox chicken pox virus that stays 1:34:35.000 --> 1:34:37.080 in your system. It lies dormant in your system and 1:34:37.120 --> 1:34:39.160 comes back later on, making me very bad for a 1:34:39.200 --> 1:34:41.800 particularly older people. If you get it tends to happen 1:34:41.840 --> 1:34:43.439 on the trunk or on the face, and if it 1:34:43.520 --> 1:34:45.880 gets near your eyes, you can actually go blind from it. 1:34:45.920 --> 1:34:48.719 I think, so you got to be very careful with shingles. 1:34:48.760 --> 1:34:54.439 It's very painful too. Anyway, Ed Rights producer Mark and 1:34:54.479 --> 1:34:56.479 Buck glad you're making it through the great lockdown to 1:34:56.560 --> 1:34:58.720 twenty twenty. Thank you both for what you give us 1:34:58.720 --> 1:35:01.720 out here in lockdown. A well thank you, Ed My 1:35:01.840 --> 1:35:04.680 Talk Radio roots go way back to before the late 1:35:04.840 --> 1:35:09.920 nineteen eighties when Rush was doing caller Abortions m During 1:35:09.960 --> 1:35:14.200 the Waco incident, Tacos Ge Gordon Lyddy always referred to 1:35:14.479 --> 1:35:18.880 the HRT as the WOW as the hostage roasting Team. 1:35:19.520 --> 1:35:21.599 It sticks with me to this day and I think 1:35:21.680 --> 1:35:24.200 of it every time you mentioned Waco driving listening with 1:35:24.320 --> 1:35:27.240 Shield's Eye, Well, thank you, Ed. Yeah, I mean, I'm 1:35:27.400 --> 1:35:29.920 I'm telling you everybody listening to this one if you're 1:35:29.960 --> 1:35:33.439 looking for a show on Netflix, that Waco Show is 1:35:33.960 --> 1:35:35.800 and it was originally was it? What was it on? 1:35:36.479 --> 1:35:40.200 What channel? Was Paramount Network? What was it called Paramount Network? 1:35:40.240 --> 1:35:42.280 It was Paramount Network. Really, I think it was just 1:35:42.560 --> 1:35:45.760 like US is what FX is now? Well, yeah, it was, 1:35:45.840 --> 1:35:47.519 that's right. I think it was an FX series and 1:35:47.600 --> 1:35:52.200 now it's owned by Paramount Um. But it was a Yeah, 1:35:52.600 --> 1:35:54.920 it's a very good series, a very good show. I 1:35:55.080 --> 1:35:58.960 highly highly recommend you check it out. And Taylor Kitch, 1:35:59.040 --> 1:36:02.040 whom some of you would know from, he played Gambit 1:36:02.920 --> 1:36:06.880 in one of the X Men movies. Briefly, so if 1:36:06.920 --> 1:36:09.680 you saw what was it was the Wolverine movie, I 1:36:09.800 --> 1:36:12.200 think do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, I 1:36:12.240 --> 1:36:14.200 know you're talking about, but I don't remember him innute. Yeah, 1:36:14.200 --> 1:36:15.600 I forget what. Yeah, he was in it. He was like, 1:36:15.760 --> 1:36:18.160 my name is Remy Lebeaux. I have a weird French 1:36:18.200 --> 1:36:21.280 accident and I'm Gambit, you know. And he's only in 1:36:21.320 --> 1:36:22.720 the movie for a couple of seconds. It is not 1:36:22.880 --> 1:36:25.200 it's not a good appearance really because the Gambit character 1:36:25.240 --> 1:36:26.559 they don't I didn't think they did a good job 1:36:26.600 --> 1:36:29.920 with at all. But he's also from Friday Night Lights, 1:36:29.920 --> 1:36:31.720 which was a show that I liked a lot, even 1:36:31.760 --> 1:36:35.080 though it had its problems. But he the Waco you 1:36:35.120 --> 1:36:38.320 gotta you gotta watch it because here here's the one 1:36:38.400 --> 1:36:40.439 that this factoid. I knew this beforehand, but this comes 1:36:40.479 --> 1:36:43.040 up at the end. FBI said, you had seventy five 1:36:43.120 --> 1:36:47.200 people die either burned to death or smoke innhilation in 1:36:47.520 --> 1:36:51.960 the Waco compound. And FBI made no provision to put 1:36:52.000 --> 1:36:55.400 out the fire after they used the cs gas. So 1:36:55.560 --> 1:36:57.479 the whole that when the building catches on fire, they 1:36:57.520 --> 1:37:00.200 didn't think and they'd been parked outside for like two months. Okay, 1:37:00.400 --> 1:37:03.280 no one thought to have fire trucks handy. That's not 1:37:03.479 --> 1:37:05.360 exactly great planning. It's not like they were short on 1:37:05.400 --> 1:37:08.040 time to figure this out either. And then initially the 1:37:08.160 --> 1:37:12.200 FBI claimed that they did not use any incendiary devices 1:37:12.240 --> 1:37:15.080 of any kind while they were using the cs gas 1:37:15.160 --> 1:37:18.040 to drive them out of the compound. Tear gas basically 1:37:18.360 --> 1:37:21.360 drive them out of the compound. And then it came out, 1:37:21.400 --> 1:37:24.679 oh no, they use flashbang gren eggs and grenades, which 1:37:25.280 --> 1:37:29.880 can be an incendiary device. So they lied. They lied 1:37:29.880 --> 1:37:34.479 about it, which you know, FBI cannot lie. You know, 1:37:34.560 --> 1:37:39.280 maybe they should like put that on big plaques and 1:37:39.360 --> 1:37:43.120 put her all over the Jay Edgar Hoover building in DC. 1:37:44.120 --> 1:37:46.240 Quite a guy to name the FBI building for it 1:37:46.439 --> 1:37:50.320 when you think about some of his stuff. Anyway, I 1:37:50.560 --> 1:37:54.320 really recommend you see the Waco show surely, And by 1:37:54.360 --> 1:37:55.760 the way, you know the other thing is, yeah, but 1:37:55.840 --> 1:37:58.080 the branch Davidians, i mean, David Koresh was a nut 1:37:58.200 --> 1:38:00.599 job and a peto and a lot of terrible stuff 1:38:00.640 --> 1:38:03.840 going on there too. But we expect the FBI to 1:38:03.880 --> 1:38:08.240 act appropriately even when dealing with Koresh. Koresh like nut jobs. 1:38:09.680 --> 1:38:12.680 Surely have you seen patients of videos of patients being 1:38:12.720 --> 1:38:16.080 wheeled out of the hospital after surviving complicated treatment for 1:38:16.160 --> 1:38:19.040 COVID staff lining the hall is clapping. I guess they 1:38:19.040 --> 1:38:21.280 are over fifty staff standing right next to each other, 1:38:21.400 --> 1:38:24.960 but wearing masks inside a hospital yet fill in the blank. 1:38:25.240 --> 1:38:32.439 Can't be in a salon, can't be in a church, etc. Etc. Well, surely, 1:38:32.520 --> 1:38:34.280 I mean, surely, I think I get what you're trying 1:38:34.280 --> 1:38:36.040 to say here, But keep in mind that in a 1:38:36.200 --> 1:38:39.680 hospital they're being I mean, they're wearing protective equipment and 1:38:39.680 --> 1:38:43.160 they're they're all being exposed to the virus. So they're 1:38:43.439 --> 1:38:45.920 inherently being exposed to virus. It's a little different than say, 1:38:45.960 --> 1:38:48.640 in a grocery store something like that. But we'll keep it. 1:38:48.720 --> 1:38:50.320 We gotta keep an eye on make sure that the 1:38:50.400 --> 1:38:53.800 standard is applied universally through all these different jurisdictions that 1:38:53.880 --> 1:38:56.440 are saying you have to wear wear masks. But you know, hospitals, 1:38:57.560 --> 1:39:00.360 they they're on they're dealing with this stuff, and so 1:39:01.439 --> 1:39:04.080 they know they know what they're what they're up against. 1:39:04.080 --> 1:39:08.280 At this point, Dave, how is it that China opened 1:39:08.360 --> 1:39:10.680 up a while back, but we are still closed with 1:39:10.800 --> 1:39:14.000 talk of kids not going back to school in the fault? Dave, 1:39:14.080 --> 1:39:17.360 that is a very good question for which nobody really 1:39:17.400 --> 1:39:20.720 has a great answer. Did China really control this thing? 1:39:21.080 --> 1:39:23.880 Or is China pretending to have it under control? We 1:39:24.080 --> 1:39:27.320 know China not just not only lied about it in 1:39:27.479 --> 1:39:32.040 the early stages, but also the Chinese government was stockpiling 1:39:32.080 --> 1:39:34.320 equipment to deal with it when they were telling everybody 1:39:34.360 --> 1:39:35.760 else that, you know, there was no big deal here, 1:39:35.840 --> 1:39:38.679 that's going to be fine. And we know they lied 1:39:38.720 --> 1:39:41.960 about the casualties they suffered from this. But have they 1:39:42.680 --> 1:39:47.840 using extreme measures? Have they really managed to contain which 1:39:47.880 --> 1:39:49.559 I guess is the best way to describe it, contain 1:39:49.640 --> 1:39:52.160 the virus. There are some other countries that seem to 1:39:52.200 --> 1:39:55.439 have achieved a state of containment right now, Australia, Japan, 1:39:55.680 --> 1:39:58.639 South Korea. They seem to have this contained, but they're 1:39:58.680 --> 1:40:01.760 also not fully returned, so they have a contained but 1:40:01.800 --> 1:40:05.160 they haven't really fully returned to normal life either, So 1:40:05.600 --> 1:40:09.240 I think that's notable. But the answer is I don't. 1:40:10.080 --> 1:40:14.000 I don't know exactly, and I don't think anybody really 1:40:14.080 --> 1:40:17.960 knows exactly how true China's containment is and what they've 1:40:18.120 --> 1:40:24.360 done well that we could emulate over here. Eric is 1:40:24.400 --> 1:40:26.479 a very smart character, this Eric, he writes in the 1:40:26.479 --> 1:40:31.280 subject line, I love producer Mark Gee. I wonder if 1:40:31.320 --> 1:40:34.920 when producer Mark is looking for roll call segments that 1:40:35.160 --> 1:40:37.080 is going to catch his attention. Eric, you are a 1:40:37.160 --> 1:40:39.800 smooth operator. That was very smart, I admit, and I 1:40:39.960 --> 1:40:42.320 rarely include the subject line in the email, but I 1:40:42.400 --> 1:40:46.040 mean when I sent it to you, But Eric worked 1:40:46.080 --> 1:40:47.800 the system on this one. We gotta give him credit 1:40:47.880 --> 1:40:50.320 for it. Quick question, Buck, do you think the Salon 1:40:50.400 --> 1:40:52.960 case in Dallas will end up in the Supreme Court 1:40:53.040 --> 1:40:56.479 to determine the constitutionality of it. I hope it gets 1:40:56.560 --> 1:40:59.160 deemed unconstitutional to set a pressent for the next time 1:40:59.160 --> 1:41:02.519 the Lips try to pull this again. What are your thoughts, Eric, 1:41:02.640 --> 1:41:04.960 I don't it's not going to go that far. I 1:41:05.080 --> 1:41:08.599 think the state is likely to drop all charges against her. 1:41:09.479 --> 1:41:12.599 And you know we've seen this now with the Supreme 1:41:12.640 --> 1:41:14.519 Court decision that I actually think was the wrong one 1:41:15.160 --> 1:41:18.880 for guns and the transportation of legally owned firearms here 1:41:18.960 --> 1:41:21.640 in New York, where all they had to do was 1:41:21.760 --> 1:41:24.680 once they got caught with what was clearly an unconstitutional law, 1:41:25.080 --> 1:41:27.000 they changed the law a little bit, and then when 1:41:27.040 --> 1:41:29.000 it makes its way with the Supreme Court, Supreme Court 1:41:29.040 --> 1:41:31.960 says it's a moot point. It doesn't matter anymore. So 1:41:32.600 --> 1:41:36.160 if the lockdown, you know, I would think that some 1:41:36.240 --> 1:41:38.439 of this stuff we're seeing in lockdowns, if people sue 1:41:39.479 --> 1:41:41.879 when they're suing for relief, unless they can prove specific 1:41:42.000 --> 1:41:44.040 damages to themselves or their business, which I'm sure a 1:41:44.040 --> 1:41:45.360 lot of people could. But you know, this is going 1:41:45.400 --> 1:41:48.200 to get very complicated. But they're going to also say, well, look, 1:41:48.240 --> 1:41:50.280 this is no longer the law, so we don't really 1:41:50.360 --> 1:41:53.840 have to worry about this, do we. That seems to 1:41:53.920 --> 1:41:56.320 me to be at least somewhat the precedent that was 1:41:56.400 --> 1:42:02.760 set in that Supreme Court case you're in the freedom Hunt. 1:42:03.200 --> 1:42:09.799 This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. All right, rollcall 1:42:09.880 --> 1:42:12.960 continuing here. Buck love the show. Listen to the podcast 1:42:13.160 --> 1:42:15.599 every day. This is from Nate. Thank you so much, Nate. 1:42:16.200 --> 1:42:20.799 Here in Virginia, Comrade Northam just extended our non essential 1:42:20.880 --> 1:42:24.519 business shutdown for the whole state, despite fifty percent of 1:42:24.640 --> 1:42:27.320 Virginia's cases being limited to the counties and cities around 1:42:27.400 --> 1:42:30.000 DC and Richmond. I live in a small city in 1:42:30.040 --> 1:42:32.719 the western part of the state. We only have twenty 1:42:32.760 --> 1:42:36.439 confirmed cases and one hospitalization. I spoke to a friend 1:42:36.479 --> 1:42:38.679 whose wife is a nurse with the UVA Health System, 1:42:39.000 --> 1:42:41.839 and according to her, only three of the hospitals twenty 1:42:41.960 --> 1:42:45.000 ventilators have been used. My parents are in the high 1:42:45.040 --> 1:42:47.120 risk category, but even they say this has gone on 1:42:47.240 --> 1:42:49.439 way too long. We're all just hard of being cooped 1:42:49.520 --> 1:42:52.160 up in our houses. Yeah. I hear this from more 1:42:52.160 --> 1:42:53.720 and more people, even who are in the high risk 1:42:53.760 --> 1:42:56.680 category in New York too. They're saying, you, guys, we 1:42:56.800 --> 1:42:58.599 might be a little slower, but you who are at 1:42:58.640 --> 1:43:00.519 lower risk, if you want to go out there, you 1:43:00.560 --> 1:43:02.639 should be able to. You should be able to open 1:43:02.720 --> 1:43:05.960 your business. Just go to work and start to engage 1:43:06.040 --> 1:43:08.000 in day to day life and commerce and things like 1:43:08.360 --> 1:43:10.920 going to the gym. If the gym in my in 1:43:11.040 --> 1:43:13.240 my building where I live opened and I live in 1:43:13.240 --> 1:43:15.120 a building with hundreds and hundreds of residents, so the 1:43:15.160 --> 1:43:17.560 gym can be very busy. If the gym in my 1:43:17.640 --> 1:43:22.360 building opened up, I would go tomorrow. Just the truth. 1:43:22.680 --> 1:43:24.400 I mean, I know there's some risk or whatever, and 1:43:24.439 --> 1:43:26.479 you know, I try not to touch my eyes a 1:43:26.560 --> 1:43:29.920 lot after touching the shared equipment and stuff, But you know, 1:43:30.000 --> 1:43:33.559 what else are you gonna do? Because man, I'm getting 1:43:33.560 --> 1:43:35.720 a little slower and a little rounder every day. Right now. 1:43:35.720 --> 1:43:37.280 I've done I've been doing some push ups here and 1:43:37.320 --> 1:43:39.080 there when I can, But you know, it's tough to 1:43:39.160 --> 1:43:41.400 motivate through pushups when like you're just wearing sweats all 1:43:41.479 --> 1:43:43.439 day and the most exciting part of your day is 1:43:43.479 --> 1:43:46.040 picking out what you're gonna watch on TV, and you 1:43:46.080 --> 1:43:47.880 know what you're gonna put on the popcorn you're making, 1:43:48.400 --> 1:43:52.400 Slash the ice cream you're eating, Slash the cookies that 1:43:52.520 --> 1:43:55.720 you might be baking. You know what I mean? What 1:43:55.800 --> 1:43:59.040 happens to that one hundred push up challenge? I got 1:43:59.080 --> 1:44:00.600 about seven days in it, and then I got a 1:44:00.600 --> 1:44:03.639 headache and I kind of fell off then for a week. Though, 1:44:04.040 --> 1:44:06.920 well it's more than I did, I guess. Yeah, I mean, 1:44:06.960 --> 1:44:08.759 so I probably should get back to because it's supposed 1:44:08.800 --> 1:44:11.960 to be thirty days not seven buck Yeah, good, good point, 1:44:12.040 --> 1:44:14.560 good reminder. That multipodcast, you know, I got it to 1:44:14.640 --> 1:44:17.200 do list I got. I would put the multipodcast above 1:44:17.280 --> 1:44:21.600 the pushups. That's just me alright, alright, fair enough, Oh, 1:44:21.720 --> 1:44:23.640 Nate writes more. I didn't even see this. I get 1:44:23.680 --> 1:44:27.320 a laugh, perfect tibe. Whatever your producer, Mark discuss pet options. 1:44:28.160 --> 1:44:31.800 I've had guinea pigs for about eight years. They're very 1:44:31.880 --> 1:44:34.960 friendly and common. Great attributes for when you're stuck at 1:44:35.040 --> 1:44:38.800 home during a pandemic, plus easy to maintain. If you 1:44:38.920 --> 1:44:41.519 really want to be ambitious, you can get their South 1:44:41.600 --> 1:44:45.000 American cousin, the copy Bara, which is truly a an 1:44:45.240 --> 1:44:47.840 r o us a rodent of unusual size. Keep up 1:44:47.840 --> 1:44:52.040 the great work, shields high, Nate. Can you legally get 1:44:52.080 --> 1:44:55.559 a copy bar in America? I know, they're like rats 1:44:55.600 --> 1:44:58.080 that are the size of dogs, literally the size of dogs. 1:44:58.640 --> 1:45:02.280 They are rodents that are huge. Yeah, they're they do 1:45:02.640 --> 1:45:04.840 no googles. No, no, I don't. I don't want to know. 1:45:05.560 --> 1:45:07.200 They're kind of cute though, because they don't have a 1:45:07.280 --> 1:45:10.560 scary looking rat face. Just get a doll, yeah, or 1:45:10.640 --> 1:45:13.000 just get you see. Basically, you want me to get 1:45:13.040 --> 1:45:16.000 a subway rat, June. No, no, no, a thirty pound 1:45:16.040 --> 1:45:17.880 subway rat. I mean, I wouldn't be shocked if you 1:45:17.920 --> 1:45:21.120 saw one of those on the subway, would you? Especially? Yeah? 1:45:21.160 --> 1:45:23.240 I feel like you don't know what they down there. 1:45:23.560 --> 1:45:26.200 I've definitely seen some rats that I feel like we're 1:45:27.320 --> 1:45:29.559 three or four pounds, three or four. I've seen ones 1:45:29.600 --> 1:45:32.760 that are at least close to ten. Come on, yes, 1:45:32.880 --> 1:45:34.800 come on, you've never seen one on the subway would 1:45:34.800 --> 1:45:37.439 be absolutely I might be exaggerating a little bit, but 1:45:37.560 --> 1:45:40.680 like there's some huge rats down on the subway system. Yeah. Man, 1:45:40.720 --> 1:45:42.920 it's a perfect environment for them. They're people just throwing 1:45:42.960 --> 1:45:45.400 trash and food down there all the time. They can 1:45:45.479 --> 1:45:48.200 you know, they have no real they have no real predators. 1:45:48.400 --> 1:45:50.280 People start trash on the tracks as if there's not 1:45:50.360 --> 1:45:53.040 like a garbage can ten feet away from them. I did, 1:45:53.160 --> 1:45:55.519 you know? I did. I never understand why people can't 1:45:55.600 --> 1:45:57.719 take better, better care of their trash on the subway, 1:45:57.800 --> 1:46:00.240 and then they complain when the subway shuts down because 1:46:00.439 --> 1:46:05.240 the trash is on fire or something. Yeah, it's crazy, Jake, 1:46:05.960 --> 1:46:10.080 keeps it going here, Buck, you really should move to Nashville. 1:46:10.560 --> 1:46:13.280 You would have access to an iHeartRadio facility, no state 1:46:13.360 --> 1:46:16.799 income tax, and minimum state gun laws not to mention freedom. 1:46:17.080 --> 1:46:18.439 You could live in the middle of the city if 1:46:18.439 --> 1:46:19.960 you wanted to stay urban, or you could live in 1:46:20.040 --> 1:46:22.280 a suburban rural area if you wanted to breathe clean air, 1:46:22.840 --> 1:46:25.360 not paying state income tax. You could probably fly back 1:46:25.360 --> 1:46:27.240 to see your family in NYC once a month and 1:46:27.320 --> 1:46:32.280 still come out ahead. Jake, that is a very feasible 1:46:32.479 --> 1:46:35.120 and enticing plan. So don't think that that has not 1:46:35.200 --> 1:46:37.719 crossed my mind, especially as the New York shutdown continues 1:46:37.760 --> 1:46:40.880 to drag on and on. I love Nashville, great town. 1:46:41.200 --> 1:46:42.840 I actually just spoke to a friend yesterday out in 1:46:42.920 --> 1:46:45.080 Denver about trying to go out and see our friends 1:46:45.200 --> 1:46:48.800 at ninety three seven FM in Denver. So once the 1:46:48.880 --> 1:46:50.880 world opens up and I can start to travel again, 1:46:51.360 --> 1:46:54.240 they mean that I've been promising KLBJ Austin, and I've 1:46:54.280 --> 1:46:57.840 been promising and now recently ninety three seven FM Denver, 1:46:57.960 --> 1:46:59.680 that I'll make stops there. So those are two very 1:46:59.800 --> 1:47:02.120 high on the list for me. But we got we 1:47:02.200 --> 1:47:03.880 got a lot of places, a lot of places we 1:47:03.960 --> 1:47:05.479 want to visit, you know, a lot of things that 1:47:05.600 --> 1:47:08.080 we want to want to check out and see. I mean, 1:47:08.240 --> 1:47:11.439 we got WRNO in New Orleans. I love New Orleans. 1:47:11.680 --> 1:47:13.519 Bruster Mark, we'd go on a little, a little field 1:47:13.520 --> 1:47:15.559 trip down there. Check that out. Yeah, as long as 1:47:15.600 --> 1:47:18.200 you're taking producer Mark with you, I'm okay with all 1:47:18.240 --> 1:47:21.360 of us. Yeah. I've never even been in Nebraska. Kfab 1:47:21.640 --> 1:47:25.679 in Omaha, Nebraska. Love to check out the k KFAB folks. 1:47:25.720 --> 1:47:29.240 They've been loyal Team buck listeners for years. We got 1:47:29.320 --> 1:47:33.480 so many We've got so many places. WHP and Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. 1:47:33.960 --> 1:47:36.960 Wa WHP has been with us since the beginning of 1:47:37.120 --> 1:47:40.960 this show. They were early buck Leavers and so that's 1:47:41.000 --> 1:47:43.960 old school Team Buck there as well. So you know 1:47:44.040 --> 1:47:48.360 we've got waeb Allantown Bethlehem, Pennsylvania another great station that. 1:47:48.439 --> 1:47:49.800 I mean, these are all places I want to go 1:47:49.960 --> 1:47:52.160 visit and promising to do it for a while, but 1:47:52.240 --> 1:47:54.120 you know, it's tough when the planes are all shut down. 1:47:54.200 --> 1:47:58.360 So I'm gonna make it happen. I'm gonna make it happen. JJ. 1:47:59.479 --> 1:48:01.680 Those who believe in the sacredness of a government's right 1:48:01.720 --> 1:48:03.760 to supreme power is a belief that the government is 1:48:03.800 --> 1:48:06.559 a benevolent parent who will make you live in a warm, 1:48:06.640 --> 1:48:09.760 predict protected bubble with no cares or worries. They are 1:48:09.800 --> 1:48:13.160 perpetual children, deluding themselves that they're giving up their choices 1:48:13.200 --> 1:48:16.080 for the greater good, afraid of the consequences of people 1:48:16.160 --> 1:48:18.840 allowed to make their own choices. I don't think I 1:48:18.880 --> 1:48:21.560 have much to add to that. Thanks, JJ, team, have 1:48:21.680 --> 1:48:24.000 a fantastic weekend. Shields High