Speaker 1: You are entering the freedom hunt. General Flynn walks free.
Speaker 1: Arrests are made in the shooting of Ahmed Armory, Russia.
Speaker 1: Documents released tell us that some pundits on TV weren't
Speaker 1: telling the truth. Operation Gideon, the failed overthrow of Venezuela's
Speaker 1: Nicholas Maduro. And we got guests like Glenn Jacobs, Jack Carr,
Speaker 1: and Jesse Kelly coming up. This is the Buck Sexon Show,
Speaker 1: where the mission or mission is to decode what really
Speaker 1: matters with passionable intelligence. Make no mistake America, You're a
Speaker 1: great American. Again, the Buck Sexon Show begins. He's a
Speaker 1: great guy. Now, he was an innocent man. He is
Speaker 1: a great gentleman. He was targeted by the Obama administration
Speaker 1: and he was targeted in order to try and take
Speaker 1: down a president. And what they've done is a disgrace.
Speaker 1: And I hope a big price is going to be paid.
Speaker 1: A big price should be paid. And there's never been
Speaker 1: anything like this in the history of our country. What
Speaker 1: they did, what the Obama administration did, is unprecedented, has
Speaker 1: never happened, never happened. A thing like this has never
Speaker 1: happened before the history of our country. Welcome to the
Speaker 1: Buck Saccdent Show. Everyone celebrate a good moment here if
Speaker 1: you will. After years of being dragged through the mud, bankrupted, ruined,
Speaker 1: threatening him, threatening his family, the thuggery on display from
Speaker 1: some of these FBI and DOJ folks was completely jaw dropping.
Speaker 1: But after years of that, General Flynn is now walking
Speaker 1: a freeman. Now, this is something we've been waiting for,
Speaker 1: and we've talked about this countless times on the show,
Speaker 1: and it really is the end of at least one
Speaker 1: chapter here, which is the left's stop at nothing scorched
Speaker 1: Earth war, using the weaponization of the intelligence community, a
Speaker 1: completely and disgracefully complicit lib media, and every dirty trick
Speaker 1: and tool the DNC could either push, pay for or
Speaker 1: otherwise bring into being. With all of that going on,
Speaker 1: they try to take down General Flynn. It looks like
Speaker 1: they in the end were unsuccessful. Now, I would note
Speaker 1: it's not really victory, not yet, or it's not really justice. Now.
Speaker 1: This is a huge step toward justice, but before we
Speaker 1: could really say that all has been set right in
Speaker 1: this situation, what we would need to see is a
Speaker 1: number of FBI former FBI now mostly I think all
Speaker 1: of them FBI agents and perhaps some DJ folks in
Speaker 1: handcuffs facing charges of their own. You might say what
Speaker 1: charge would they be guilty of? And thought I would
Speaker 1: just say official misuse of position. It's on the books.
Speaker 1: There are all kinds of ways that when you work
Speaker 1: in the federal government, if they want to go after you,
Speaker 1: if you do something really bad, they can. Now would
Speaker 1: it stick, would they go to prison? I don't know,
Speaker 1: but we know what they did was disgusting and Comy
Speaker 1: and McCabe and Yates and you name it, a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of them struck in Paige. They should be facing
Speaker 1: criminal charges for what they did. And you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not somebody that's always running around yelling lock her up,
Speaker 1: lock him up. I'm not. I'm not a person who
Speaker 1: does that. This actually demands this. This deserves and demands
Speaker 1: a response in the in the criminal courts. They ruined
Speaker 1: a person. They used the power that they were entrusted
Speaker 1: with by the American people to do so. And it
Speaker 1: was a scheme. It was at a part of it hit.
Speaker 1: It was done out of a bitterness against Donald Trump
Speaker 1: and everybody around him. He wasn't supposed to win that
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen election, and he did, and they wanted to
Speaker 1: get even That's what this was. This was their effort
Speaker 1: to even the score. And with the memos that have
Speaker 1: come out, we see from the FBI agents involved in
Speaker 1: this clear entrapment. I mean, this is as as obvious
Speaker 1: as it could be now. I mean, when you look
Speaker 1: at the evidence that has come out here, we've had
Speaker 1: to embrace really something of a shift. You know, a
Speaker 1: journal's position on General Flynn's prosecution has long been a
Speaker 1: test of intelligence and ethics, and countless lips have been
Speaker 1: failing that for years. But now their position on General
Speaker 1: Flynn is really a test of sanity, because believing that
Speaker 1: Flynn's prosecution was legit given facts we now know, is
Speaker 1: straight up insane, insane in the membrane. This is not
Speaker 1: something that anybody could still justify. And as you see
Speaker 1: the legions of experts and Democrat politicians appearing on MSNBC
Speaker 1: and CNN crying over the Flynn decision, all the Justice
Speaker 1: Department has lost its way. Just remember that they were
Speaker 1: entirely wrong about Russia collusion and the Ukraine phone call
Speaker 1: impeachment farce. So it's been a tough first Trump term
Speaker 1: for them. Let's see how they do, God willing during
Speaker 1: Trump term two, which we're still hoping will happen. And
Speaker 1: I've got to say, between the Waco series on Netflix,
Speaker 1: which I finished last night, and this dismissal by the
Speaker 1: Department of Justice of the case against former National Security
Speaker 1: Advisor Trump confidant and associate three star general, former DIA
Speaker 1: Director General Michael Flynn, Between the WACOST series and the
Speaker 1: dismissal of Flint case, it's not a good week when
Speaker 1: it comes to public perception of the trustworthiness and judgment
Speaker 1: of federal law enforcement. Not good stuff. But until the
Speaker 1: FBI conspirators against Flynn are in prison, we have not
Speaker 1: seen justice here. And that means McCabe and that means Komy.
Speaker 1: They're very fond of using the tool of investigation as
Speaker 1: a weapon against people they don't like. Well, that tool
Speaker 1: can be used and should be used against them. They
Speaker 1: should be subject to full investigation, and you know what,
Speaker 1: they should be held accountable for this. If this was
Speaker 1: not official misuse of position, I want to know what is.
Speaker 1: If this is not a form of corruption of office.
Speaker 1: Think of the charges that these individuals have brought against
Speaker 1: people in the past. They set someone up to lie.
Speaker 1: He didn't flynn, He didn't even lie. The FBI was
Speaker 1: lying about what they were doing there. They completely abused
Speaker 1: their discretion with the law under the usage of the
Speaker 1: Logan Act as a pretext for this. I mean, the
Speaker 1: whole thing was absolutely absurd. They should not be allowed
Speaker 1: to get away with it. And this should really frighten
Speaker 1: people that McCabe was acting FBI director and that Comey
Speaker 1: was FBI director before him. Remember, Comey's not really a lawman.
Speaker 1: He's a lawyer. He's a sanctimonious, self righteous lawyer. This
Speaker 1: is not a guy who was you know, wrestling crack
Speaker 1: dealers and you know, saving little girls from being kidnapped
Speaker 1: across state lines and stuff. It's not the FBI g
Speaker 1: man that you think of at all. Comy's a lawyer
Speaker 1: and really a politician, and that he was able to,
Speaker 1: i know, for multiple administrations of both parties, just keep
Speaker 1: worming his way up the ranks speaks very poorly to
Speaker 1: what is rewarded within the federal bureaucracy. But it's not
Speaker 1: surprising to me at all. People ask me why I
Speaker 1: left the federal bureaucracy usually tell him how many hours
Speaker 1: do you have. How much time do you got. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of corruption and rot, and there's a disincentive
Speaker 1: for excellence, for free thinking, for ambition, but ambition within
Speaker 1: the scope of the mission, not just you know, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to advance myself up the ranks. I mean holding
Speaker 1: oneself to a higher standard when it comes to achievement,
Speaker 1: not when it comes to CYA and kissing up to
Speaker 1: the right people in positions of authority within the bureaucracy.
Speaker 1: That's where COMI really excelled playing the system, and now
Speaker 1: it's time we hold him accountable. You know Andie McCabe
Speaker 1: who lied under oath and is not being charged, which
Speaker 1: I think is a huge mistake from the DJ's perspective.
Speaker 1: But here's what you have to remember with that if
Speaker 1: he was charged, he would be charged in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: Do you think you'd be able to find a jury
Speaker 1: of Andie McCabe's peers at this point in DC, which
Speaker 1: is ninety seven percent anti Trump, Basically you think you'd
Speaker 1: find a jury that would send any McCabe to prison
Speaker 1: for lying. Nope, he's a hero of the resistance. So
Speaker 1: DJ not pressing charges against him. I think as as
Speaker 1: much as that is just a gut punch. I can
Speaker 1: see that there's some prudence in it. It feels wrong,
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying it's right, but there may be prudence.
Speaker 1: Annie McCabe and others. Of course, they're still going to
Speaker 1: They're still going to be running around spreading their lies
Speaker 1: and their intellectual filth anything in order to justify the
Speaker 1: decisions they've already made. Attorney General Barr, who, as you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, elevate any members of the administration or
Speaker 1: politicians into being a hero status or anything. That there'
Speaker 1: are all just people. They make mistakes that we always
Speaker 1: got to remember that. We applaud them for their good
Speaker 1: actions and we hope for their good care character, but
Speaker 1: they also they will always disappoint you at some point.
Speaker 1: That all said, ag Barr has been the single best
Speaker 1: pick in the cabinet for this administration for the first
Speaker 1: four years of Trump, in my estimation, the single strongest
Speaker 1: member of Trump's cabinet, most the most important one, and
Speaker 1: I think he has effectively saved the Trump presidency. I
Speaker 1: really think that that's a fair thing to say, and
Speaker 1: I know that's a big statement, but I think he
Speaker 1: saved it because if you would have. I mean, just
Speaker 1: look at what And he's a nice man, and he
Speaker 1: is a well intentioned guy, and I know he likes
Speaker 1: this radio show. But you know, Attorney General Sessions was
Speaker 1: just not up for the street fight that he was
Speaker 1: thrown into. He just wasn't up for it, which was
Speaker 1: a problem. But here's Attorney General Barr, who is up
Speaker 1: for it, who knows how this game is played, who
Speaker 1: understands who the enemy really is. Here's what he says
Speaker 1: about this decision to drop the charges against General Flynn,
Speaker 1: which is a huge I mean, high five to all
Speaker 1: of you listening to this show and all of us
Speaker 1: who have been pushing publicly or even just among friends
Speaker 1: for how this was an injustice and Flynn should be pardoned.
Speaker 1: We were right and the Libs were wrong. Don't forget that.
Speaker 1: Don't just pass beyond this moment without taking stock of it.
Speaker 1: And here's the Attorney General saying, oh, yeah, we need
Speaker 1: to have one standard of justice place six A crime
Speaker 1: cannot be established here. They did not have a basis
Speaker 1: for a counterintelligence investigation against Flynn at that stage. Does
Speaker 1: the fact remain that he lied? Well, you know, people
Speaker 1: sometimes plead to things that turn out not to be crimes.
Speaker 1: What should Americans take away from your actions in the
Speaker 1: Flynn case today? I want to make sure that we
Speaker 1: restore confidence in the system. There's only one standard of justice.
Speaker 1: You really know a lot about a person at this stage,
Speaker 1: if they've been following this issue and if they're a
Speaker 1: public voice on it. If they double down now and say, oh,
Speaker 1: it's the corrupt Justice Department. I mean people who are
Speaker 1: truly just morons. And there's a lot of them out there.
Speaker 1: Was at the Law the law Fair Blog or one
Speaker 1: of those sites, one of these ridiculous, these ridiculous websites
Speaker 1: that has legal experts. They're all, Oh, this is a
Speaker 1: terrible day for the Justice Department. What are they now
Speaker 1: saying that we should have the FBI go after people
Speaker 1: for violations of a Logan Act? The Logan Act is
Speaker 1: so broad, so vague, and so clearly unconstitutional. It hasn't
Speaker 1: been used in one hundred and seventy years or so.
Speaker 1: But we still should Yeah, we still should go with it.
Speaker 1: Come on, this is absurd, But they cling to this fiction.
Speaker 1: They cling to it. Now, before I get into some
Speaker 1: of their truly pathetic attempts to defend this the meaning
Speaker 1: to defend the media's position here. I just want to
Speaker 1: note one of the things I'm most proud of here
Speaker 1: on the show is that we've for years now, on
Speaker 1: all these issues of Usha collusion everything else. I've always
Speaker 1: been open to all the new facts and data that
Speaker 1: come in, and I have never had to go on
Speaker 1: air on this show and say, wow, I really missed
Speaker 1: that one. Sorry, guys, wrong on this one. Oh they
Speaker 1: really got him. Never happened. You've been supporting me, You've
Speaker 1: agreed with me. We have been right on the injustice
Speaker 1: done to General Flynn for years. I have publicly advocated
Speaker 1: all the way up the chain as much as I
Speaker 1: can for a pardon for him. Now it looks like
Speaker 1: that is no longer necessary, thank Heavens. But it's a
Speaker 1: tough situation out there in the country, and I know
Speaker 1: we've been through a lot of gloom and doom. Take
Speaker 1: a moment, my friends. Justice it's a wonderful It's a
Speaker 1: delicious thing when it happens, and we're close to it
Speaker 1: now with Flynn. We're not quite there yet. But this
Speaker 1: was a big win and we were on the right
Speaker 1: side of it, and people that looked down their noses
Speaker 1: at you. People in the media or maybe even in
Speaker 1: your day to day life who think you're crazy because
Speaker 1: you weren't calling a decorating veteran combat hero who wanted
Speaker 1: to serve his country in the Trump administration like General Flynn,
Speaker 1: because you wouldn't call him a traitor. You were simple,
Speaker 1: You were a rube. You didn't know anything, You didn't
Speaker 1: know any better. Yeah, you were right. I was right.
Speaker 1: They were wrong. Who are the rubes? Now, Libs, you're
Speaker 1: in the freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 1: It's a pretty dark place on social media. The very
Speaker 1: first combat after the story broke that I saw on
Speaker 1: Twitter was Prodin If you're listening, high five year asset.
Speaker 1: And there are Russian flags and Russian memes popping up.
Speaker 1: And now we see Bill Barr really just doing Donald
Speaker 1: Trump's dirty work. Now he has in his back pocket
Speaker 1: a little age who saw to it to let Flenn go.
Speaker 1: It is I think breathtaking dishonesty from the Justice Department.
Speaker 1: This is the collapse of the Justice Department. Now, Katiel,
Speaker 1: you caught my breath with the collapse of the Justice Department.
Speaker 1: This is a case where the fix was in the
Speaker 1: fix is in not good for the rule of law,
Speaker 1: it's not good for morale, and it's not a fair outcome.
Speaker 1: This is an absolute injustice. Now, don't not worry anyone
Speaker 1: who cares about the rule of law. Mike Flynn's lawyers
Speaker 1: have been engaged in a smear campaign. This is a
Speaker 1: political and incredibly destructive thing to the rule of law.
Speaker 1: It's all heading towards the president wiping the Muller investigation
Speaker 1: out of the history books, at least as far as
Speaker 1: criminal conviction. Oh my, just just bathe in the media
Speaker 1: lib tears for a moment. Oh, it's destroying the dear Jay.
Speaker 1: That's a credit to NewsBusters who pulled together that montage.
Speaker 1: Is a great montage that they did. NewsBusters says some
Speaker 1: really good stuff. But I gotta say, I gotta say,
Speaker 1: what are they even How are they even making this argument?
Speaker 1: They never should. It's not it's not possible to tell
Speaker 1: a material lie about a non material investigation because the
Speaker 1: investigation had no predicate. What do these idiots not understand
Speaker 1: If someone in the FBI walks up to me and says, hey,
Speaker 1: have you ever cheated on your wife? I mean I'm
Speaker 1: not married, so this would be easy. But but but you know,
Speaker 1: have you ever seen on your wife? And I said no,
Speaker 1: and a turn out that's true. The FBI doesn't get
Speaker 1: to throw me in prison for lying to the FBI.
Speaker 1: Right if someone's dating an FBI officer, FBI agent rather
Speaker 1: CI officer FBI agent. If someone's dating an FBI agent
Speaker 1: and the FBI agent's like, hey, we're wor you last
Speaker 1: night and he or she lies, you don't get to
Speaker 1: throw that person in prison for lying to the FBI.
Speaker 1: Do the idiot libs not really understand this. That's what
Speaker 1: the attorney gents are front you. It's not really a
Speaker 1: crime because there really was no investigation, there was no
Speaker 1: basis for this. They were and it was clear from
Speaker 1: the conversation that this was a setup. And that's not justice.
Speaker 1: It was pretextual any normal judgement through the side. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you, I'm a little a little concerned about
Speaker 1: whether Sullivan will delay this. Judge Sullivan, he's crazy. He
Speaker 1: sometimes gets it right, but he also talked about treason
Speaker 1: and charges that Flynn wasn't even facing about a year ago,
Speaker 1: and so he's had a Judge Emmett Sullivan has had
Speaker 1: some outbursts in this case where he's just he's out
Speaker 1: of it, he's nuts, but occasionally he gets stuff right.
Speaker 1: He may slow this down a little bit, say, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know if this can really Why is the
Speaker 1: DJ backing office think about and the person who backed
Speaker 1: off the case or rather made the final determination. They're
Speaker 1: all saying, Oh, it's a Trump it's a Trump fix.
Speaker 1: The guys were working at the DJ for ten years.
Speaker 1: He's a career professional and it was his call and
Speaker 1: he went to the Attorney General. He said, we we
Speaker 1: can't continue with this. Who really believes that it would
Speaker 1: be just what they want? They want Flynn to get
Speaker 1: his zero jail time sentence anyway, that's what he was
Speaker 1: going likely going to get out of this. What do
Speaker 1: they really think was the victory here? Oh, this was
Speaker 1: all about creating some basis for the figment of liberals
Speaker 1: imagination that is Russia collusion and that there was all this,
Speaker 1: all these Russian machinations behind the scenes. This was a
Speaker 1: mass hysteria. Now this is all frightening, folks, because the
Speaker 1: mass hysteria about Russia collusion was really a warning about
Speaker 1: Now the mass hysteria about endless lockdown with COVID nineteen
Speaker 1: that we're seeing, but I'll return to that later. Thanks
Speaker 1: for listening to The bus Stson Show podcasts. Remember to
Speaker 1: subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you
Speaker 1: get your podcasts. The President debases himself and reduces himself
Speaker 1: every day by you know, saying disgusting things about people,
Speaker 1: and in this case, saying disgusting things about people who
Speaker 1: dedicated their lives to protecting this country and their fellow citizens.
Speaker 1: That's all horrendous, and we're unfortunately used to that by now.
Speaker 1: But I would point out that General Flynn was not targeted.
Speaker 1: He was properly investigated in a well predicated case, a
Speaker 1: case that's been a case whose validity has been proven
Speaker 1: not just by those of us who are involved, but
Speaker 1: later by the Muller investigation and after that by the
Speaker 1: Inspector General's investigation. He was investigated because we had reason
Speaker 1: to believe he presented a threat to national security. I
Speaker 1: still think that those things are worthy of investigation. Apparently
Speaker 1: the President does not. What scum, What a disgusting, slimy
Speaker 1: little disgrace this guy. This guy was acting director of
Speaker 1: the FBI. I mean, he was involved in making decisions
Speaker 1: about who's who was going to be a target of
Speaker 1: the of the most powerful federal law enforcement agency in
Speaker 1: the United States, one that will investigate cases that involve
Speaker 1: any US persons or interests all over the world. I
Speaker 1: mean this, This the FBI is a big deal. And
Speaker 1: the fact that this guy was running it for months
Speaker 1: and before him, James Comey was running it. They thought
Speaker 1: they thought that General Flynn was a threat to national security. No,
Speaker 1: they manufactured a belief that General Flynn was a threat
Speaker 1: to national security. And you know, at some point someone
Speaker 1: should just look this little, sleazy, dishonest scum McCabe in
Speaker 1: the eyes and say, how blanking dare you? What have
Speaker 1: you done for this country that General Michael Flynn hasn't done?
Speaker 1: What do you think you think, because you know, you
Speaker 1: spent a career, you know, mostly locking up guys for
Speaker 1: you know, medicare fraud and running illegal drugs. You know,
Speaker 1: you think you're a hero, but General Flynn is not.
Speaker 1: You know, we're all going to give you the benefit
Speaker 1: of the doubt and oh, you're a great guy, General Flynn.
Speaker 1: He's oh, oh, because he was willing to work for
Speaker 1: the Trump administration, which it's just it really is. And
Speaker 1: I've tried not to go here, folks, And I know
Speaker 1: this is a little bit of a digression, but there's
Speaker 1: a part of me that just can't get over how
Speaker 1: it is. And I know this COVID thing is horrible.
Speaker 1: It's all just also so from a historical sense though,
Speaker 1: so unfair that the Trump administration was just crushing it
Speaker 1: and the Libs were in a panic because things were
Speaker 1: so good and we've basically now got a real election
Speaker 1: that's going to happen where it's going to be tight,
Speaker 1: it's going to be close because of the equivalent of
Speaker 1: you know, an asteroid hitting the planet. Really, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, what are you going to do? What are
Speaker 1: you gonna do? But the first three years of Trump
Speaker 1: were three of the Look, there were three of the
Speaker 1: best years of my life. We weren't we weren't all
Speaker 1: worried about terrorist attacks all all the time. We weren't
Speaker 1: all wondering if you know, the future was going to
Speaker 1: be brighter economically and if people could get jobs, and
Speaker 1: we weren't starting wars we didn't need to. And you know,
Speaker 1: but now the Libs get lucky, They get lucky with
Speaker 1: the devastation and catastrophe that has hit the entire world.
Speaker 1: But now now they can put forward, you know, Biden,
Speaker 1: the El SID candidate. Just just put him on that
Speaker 1: horse and send him off into battle, you know, prop
Speaker 1: the body up and just send El Sid out there
Speaker 1: and they'll run away. And great movie, by the way,
Speaker 1: worth watching if you've never seen it. Real masterpiece for
Speaker 1: what it is. But I go back here to McCabe.
Speaker 1: I don't understand how anyone can take this guy even
Speaker 1: a little bit seriously. I mean, Comey went to Twitter
Speaker 1: that this was a dark day for the Department of Justice.
Speaker 1: It's I think it's lost its way as what he
Speaker 1: said about it. That was the quote on Twitter, James Coomy,
Speaker 1: who remember these people that are that are still treated
Speaker 1: as having all this credibility, credibility in the media. Their
Speaker 1: own institution has found them to be dishonest, to have
Speaker 1: broken rules, to have to have said a horrible example
Speaker 1: for the rank and file of the FBI. And they
Speaker 1: they're not. They're not apologetic at all, not a little bit. McCabe,
Speaker 1: the same guy, the same smarmy little jerk. That's all.
Speaker 1: This was a legitimate investigation and these people were they
Speaker 1: were locking people up for years and years and years.
Speaker 1: Do you think Comey and McCabe have good judgment about
Speaker 1: who should go to prison? Now you would say, buck,
Speaker 1: they're the prosecutors. Yeah, But the FBI is working hand
Speaker 1: in glove with the prosecutors, and the FBI decides what
Speaker 1: you know, you know, the most momentous decision is and
Speaker 1: the whole apparatus of federal law enforcement who to investigate
Speaker 1: and who not to That's the first step. And to
Speaker 1: investigate is often to destroy, right if they want to
Speaker 1: go after you, just the investigative process. Ask anybody who
Speaker 1: you know works at a financial firm or works at
Speaker 1: a big company. All it takes is those dudes and
Speaker 1: dudets in windbreakers that say FBI to come into your office.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter if if you two weeks later was whoop,
Speaker 1: see we made a mistake. All it takes is FBI
Speaker 1: to come in your office, photos on TV and in
Speaker 1: the newspaper, and your company may be done and your
Speaker 1: reputation may never recover. So the decision to investigate is
Speaker 1: the first real assault. And then the decision to prosecute
Speaker 1: is the decision to destroys. I've told you, Once you're
Speaker 1: prosecuted as they've done to Flynn. You're bankrupted, You're ruined.
Speaker 1: Where does Flynn go to get his reputation back? I
Speaker 1: really mean this too, General Flynn deserves to be back
Speaker 1: in the Trump administration. This is not a joke. This
Speaker 1: is not a troll. They robbed him of this, and
Speaker 1: they they will say, oh, but you know he lied
Speaker 1: to Mike Pence. No, now we find out he really
Speaker 1: the FBI did. Didn't think he lied. He really just
Speaker 1: didn't even remember. Because this was such an insignificant conversation
Speaker 1: with Kizoyak, among all the different things that are going
Speaker 1: on for an incoming national security advisor, He's basically saying, hey, man,
Speaker 1: just chill, we're coming in. We'll handle things a little
Speaker 1: bit differently. Over the course of a conversation. That's it.
Speaker 1: Nothing illegal about that. It was the right thing to
Speaker 1: tell him. What was wrong was Obama being mister tough
Speaker 1: guy as he's leaving office, not going to be in
Speaker 1: power anymore, and just kicking sand in the eyes of
Speaker 1: the Russians. Why not because he cares about Russia, as
Speaker 1: you remember, you know, I will thrown smooth, This will
Speaker 1: Vladimia right. All of more or or more space toiment
Speaker 1: over after the next election, after all, the people can't
Speaker 1: actually judge me or further stuff I do. And then
Speaker 1: Obama gets all tough when he's not going to be
Speaker 1: president anymore, makes life harder for the incoming administration. And
Speaker 1: we know that he got all fired up about Russia
Speaker 1: because Hilary lost because of Russia interference. Hillary lost because
Speaker 1: she's horrible. All right, we all know it. Oh but no,
Speaker 1: McCabe still still sticks to the script here, still saying
Speaker 1: the usual bull crap man, you know, team, Should I
Speaker 1: do a version? Should I do a podcast where I
Speaker 1: can actually use salty language. I've really been thinking about this.
Speaker 1: Not for the kids, all right, we'd have an eighteen
Speaker 1: plus warning on. I feel like it'd be fun to
Speaker 1: do a like a you know, a Scotch and beer
Speaker 1: version I can drink beer, but a Scotch and beer
Speaker 1: version of this podcast for just the adults, where I
Speaker 1: could just do the you know, we'd bring producer market too.
Speaker 1: You want to hear salty language. The man is not shy.
Speaker 1: But anyway, this McCabe then, I mean this just really,
Speaker 1: this whole thing rubs me the wrong way, you know,
Speaker 1: because I Also remember I had a few run ins
Speaker 1: in mind day, relatively minor ones, but I had a
Speaker 1: few run ins with the with the internal security apparatus
Speaker 1: of the CIA, and they were they were Andy McCabe's,
Speaker 1: and they were Jim Comey's, except much lower level. But
Speaker 1: they were bad people. There were bad people who were
Speaker 1: bitter and weren't really contributing to the mission. And all
Speaker 1: they do is harass people and just you know, rifle
Speaker 1: through your finances and sift through your underwear drawer and
Speaker 1: see what they find. They're gross, not all of them,
Speaker 1: pretty much all of them, but most of them. So
Speaker 1: I understand this mentality, Oh, I'm just doing my job. Really,
Speaker 1: you pick when to do your job and when not to.
Speaker 1: So I don't ever say you're not just doing your
Speaker 1: job or you're just doing your job. But here's a
Speaker 1: cabe for you. Still still sticking with it. Play clip ten.
Speaker 1: Conservative media has been obsessed with finding some indication of
Speaker 1: a setup since this all started, you know, several years ago.
Speaker 1: The simple fact is it absolutely did not happen. And
Speaker 1: I think that those notes, if in fact they are
Speaker 1: Bill presteps are, are indicative of that a team got
Speaker 1: together and discussed the strategy, how do we approach this interview?
Speaker 1: What sorts of things should we be thinking about. I
Speaker 1: think those notes reflect one person's internal deliberations across the
Speaker 1: range of options that might that might take place. We
Speaker 1: strategize about interviews every day. When we sit down with
Speaker 1: a terrorist, we think about will they admit to the
Speaker 1: crimes that we think they have committed, or will they
Speaker 1: lie about their known associations. If they lie, will that
Speaker 1: give us something else, additional leverage that we can apply
Speaker 1: in our investigation. That's exactly what happened with General. What
Speaker 1: were they investigating? I mean, that's a real journalist and
Speaker 1: pushed that, I'm sorry, what were you investigating? The Logan Act?
Speaker 1: You really think that that's okay? I mean that's where
Speaker 1: you have to drill in and look this bed eyed
Speaker 1: little scum McCabe right in the face and say, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: what do you think you're doing? Tough guy, You're going
Speaker 1: after a decorated veteran who's the incoming National security advisor
Speaker 1: with the Logan Act. They had already been told they
Speaker 1: were going to close the counterintelligence investigation on him. They
Speaker 1: knew there was nothing And people bring up the thorough registration.
Speaker 1: I mean, my friends, if you know enough about federal law,
Speaker 1: there are there's a whole book written by Harvey A.
Speaker 1: Silver Gate and it's called like two Felonies a Day
Speaker 1: or five felonies a day, or whatever it is, and
Speaker 1: it's just about all the laws you're breaking all the
Speaker 1: time without even realizing it. But we assume, and we
Speaker 1: shouldn't have to, but we assume that law enforcement's going
Speaker 1: to prioritize and that you know, you have to actually
Speaker 1: do something bad that hurts someone or something for there
Speaker 1: to be consequences against You. Can't just be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's this obscure law that no one's ever really heard
Speaker 1: of and knows about, and you couldn't even define what
Speaker 1: it is. But we're gonna get you with that one.
Speaker 1: That's how McKay plays the game, straight out of Lavrenti
Speaker 1: Barria of the Soviet Union would be very proud of
Speaker 1: the mentality that Comy and McCabe have. These people are disgusting.
Speaker 1: I would not shake James Comy's hand. I would not
Speaker 1: show James Comy respect in person. I do not think
Speaker 1: he is deserving of it. I think he's a bad
Speaker 1: human being who needs to do a lot of penance.
Speaker 1: Same thing with McCabe. This isn't just some partisan spat.
Speaker 1: These are people who are undermining the very foundation of
Speaker 1: our country's judicial system, of our law enforcement system. They
Speaker 1: are breaking faith with the American people with institutions that
Speaker 1: can do any of us real harm. The greatest threat
Speaker 1: to tyranny that we face is from our own institutions
Speaker 1: turning against us and abandoning the constitution for partisan reasons,
Speaker 1: thinking that they're making the country a better place in
Speaker 1: the process. You know, everyone always thinks there's a good
Speaker 1: reason for whatever they're doing. Doesn't make doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: they're right. As we know, every evildoer will have some
Speaker 1: explanation for why they're doing what they do. The fact
Speaker 1: that Komian McCabe are likely to escape prison just goes
Speaker 1: to show you that we still don't have any real
Speaker 1: accountability in our system. But thank heavens, General Flynn is
Speaker 1: not going to be and not going to have this
Speaker 1: on his record. And if they're I've never seen before
Speaker 1: what happens at this point because he hasn't been sentenced,
Speaker 1: so I'm assuming that they'll they'll wipe this away. They're
Speaker 1: dropping the case against him, but Trump should maybe if
Speaker 1: Trump should just write a pardon for him anyway, just
Speaker 1: to be just to be on the safe side, and
Speaker 1: he should bring him back into the administration. He should
Speaker 1: make him a senior advisor, senior advisor for intelligence coordination
Speaker 1: with law enforcement. How about that. That'd be a great idea.
Speaker 1: And have some of these deep state morons who thought
Speaker 1: they knew better than the American people and wanted to
Speaker 1: play games, they'd have to go in and brief Flynn
Speaker 1: when he wants a briefing, answer his questions, write some
Speaker 1: memos for him, Go get him some coffee. You're in
Speaker 1: the freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast
Speaker 1: that iconic music screams summer and we all scream for
Speaker 1: ice scream. But during a pandemic, social distanced the rule
Speaker 1: getting close to the ice cream man could mean getting
Speaker 1: something else. Fact of life. Yet here's mister Freese, not
Speaker 1: his name, in his truck of treats, unmasked. Ungloved taking
Speaker 1: cash for cones in the Northwest Bergs. That's when CBS
Speaker 1: two Assignment editor Greg Kelly, father of two, dad on
Speaker 1: a bike, said, wait a minute, he did. It's a
Speaker 1: good idea to be doing this with the stay at
Speaker 1: home owner the COVID nineteen. Eventually, our Greg got a
Speaker 1: bit closer, tried to get an answer from mister Free
Speaker 1: again not his name. Why are you trying to take children?
Speaker 1: Do not worry a mask? Why are you trying? Are
Speaker 1: you sick? Am? I sick? No? And I want to
Speaker 1: say that not ship either. Why are they quarantining healthy people? Wall?
Speaker 1: I hate this, I really do. I mean this CBS
Speaker 1: to affiliate whatever. First of all, you know you're harassing
Speaker 1: a small businessman here. The guy's trying to sell ice cream,
Speaker 1: he's trying to make some money, trying to make a living,
Speaker 1: and he's not wearing a mask. The chance of him
Speaker 1: let's just understand this. It is overwhelmingly likely that he
Speaker 1: does not in fact have COVID nineteen. I know we
Speaker 1: can't say he definitely doesn't, but it is very likely
Speaker 1: that he does not in fact have COVID nineteen. Okay,
Speaker 1: so that means that he is at zero risk of
Speaker 1: doing anything to anybody else. Even if in fact he
Speaker 1: has COVID nineteen and he has a brief interaction with somebody,
Speaker 1: you would think the chances of them getting COVID nineteen,
Speaker 1: especially if it's children, which is what the whole thing is. Oh,
Speaker 1: he might be infecting children. Children. It's difficult for them
Speaker 1: to get this, and if they get it, it is
Speaker 1: effectively changes nothing about their have no symptoms, their health
Speaker 1: is not negatively impacted. But you know, instead of going
Speaker 1: up to the gun and say, hey, man, could you
Speaker 1: wear some gloves? There's a mask, you know that that's
Speaker 1: the responsible way to do this. If you if you
Speaker 1: want to make a thing of it to shame him, yes,
Speaker 1: let's go out there. Let's be the smug journal morons
Speaker 1: and go ahead and shame the business owner and put
Speaker 1: him on TV. And you know, how dare he try
Speaker 1: to feed his family, feed himself, put food on the table,
Speaker 1: pay his rent. Awful? What a terrible man? Are we really?
Speaker 1: How long do these morons think we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: do We're gonna wear masklin gloves forever? Is that their plan?
Speaker 1: Or until the panic the panic legions decide that it's
Speaker 1: okay for us to start living our lives again. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but other people's unbelievable fear. I mean, we've
Speaker 1: seen this with climate change too. You know, all the
Speaker 1: world's gonna end. So do everything I say about everything,
Speaker 1: You better recycle. You know, it was interesting here and
Speaker 1: this is a small thing, but here in New York,
Speaker 1: we had the plastic bag band going to effect in
Speaker 1: New York State, in New York City right before this,
Speaker 1: a few weeks before the pandemic really broke out. And
Speaker 1: you know what's happened. Now, I'm getting plastic bags all
Speaker 1: the time. Do you know why? Because when there's real problems,
Speaker 1: people realize that's moronic. It's just annoying, stupid harassment. But
Speaker 1: the baby seals and the plastic bags, and you know what,
Speaker 1: are we gonna do it? No? It was dumb. It
Speaker 1: was a dumb rule. It's not even better for the
Speaker 1: environment when you look at the impact on trees and
Speaker 1: the fuel ratio for taking the heavier paper bags, and
Speaker 1: also the disease risk of you know, people not being
Speaker 1: able to people bringing rather these reusable bags which are
Speaker 1: much more likely to have a whole bunch of yeah
Speaker 1: that's right, bacteria, viruses and disease on them. But it
Speaker 1: was stupid, and I told you it was stupid. And
Speaker 1: when this stuff hit the fan, guess what everybody else realized?
Speaker 1: It was in fact, dumb, it was not something we
Speaker 1: should have been doing. Og Now we all figure it out.
Speaker 1: There's a need to wear some protection in some places
Speaker 1: at some times. We all understand that. And if you
Speaker 1: really don't want the ice cream the ice cream man
Speaker 1: and you say that, I mean, I will say this,
Speaker 1: should he probably be wearing gloves irrespective of COVID nineteen.
Speaker 1: I think the answer is yes. I think food service handling,
Speaker 1: so so that I'm a little more like, you know, okay,
Speaker 1: but you know, to say all you have to be
Speaker 1: wearing a mask, we're gonna wear Are we really setting
Speaker 1: up society to wear masks until there's a vaccine? Anytime
Speaker 1: you go outside when outdoor transmission or a brief, brief
Speaker 1: moment in contact with somebody unless they're breathing right on
Speaker 1: your face, is very unlikely to spread this virus. Is
Speaker 1: that what we're really accepting now? I've got to tell you,
Speaker 1: I really the virtue signaling from people on this. Look,
Speaker 1: it's a complicated, difficult thing, and we're losing We're still
Speaker 1: losing a lot of really losing a lot of seniors.
Speaker 1: That's who we're losing as a result of this, which
Speaker 1: is tragic and This is a tough time for the country,
Speaker 1: but this has now become so thoroughly politicized, and it's
Speaker 1: it's just wrong on every level. This is not about
Speaker 1: left and right. It shouldn't be about pro Trump anti Trump,
Speaker 1: but that's what the leftist turned it into. You know,
Speaker 1: if you disagree with wearing a mask forever, you're probably
Speaker 1: one of those gun total Second Amendment liking Constitution reading folks. Well,
Speaker 1: at least they released Shelley Luther in Texas. That was
Speaker 1: a victory for sanity, but there's still a lot of
Speaker 1: crazy people out there and shaming small business owners for
Speaker 1: trying to open. It's not cool. Thanks for listening to
Speaker 1: The Bus Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts,
Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay,
Speaker 1: everybody to give us a little additional freedom perspective, a
Speaker 1: focus on liberty at a time when the country's liberty
Speaker 1: seems to be in tremendous peril. We are joined by
Speaker 1: Glenn Jacobs. He is the mayor of Knox County, Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Also familiar to many of you, I'm sure, as the
Speaker 1: WWE wrestler formerly known as Kane he joins us. Now, Glenn,
Speaker 1: great to have you on, sir, Thanks Puck, I appreciate it. So,
Speaker 1: my friend, what is good? First let's start with Tennessee
Speaker 1: and then we'll take this nationwide. We're in the midst
Speaker 1: of this lockdown. Still, some states are reopening a little bit.
Speaker 1: I've read a little that Nashville has had some cases
Speaker 1: and there's been you know, there's been a bit of
Speaker 1: a scare there. But how are you guys doing statewide?
Speaker 1: How has your governor been in this process? Telling me,
Speaker 1: let's talk about how Tennessee's handling COVID, then we'll talk
Speaker 1: about the national response. Sure, Tennessee did not go nearly
Speaker 1: as far as many other states did with executive orders.
Speaker 1: There was a safer at home ordered issued obey. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like California and some other places where we see
Speaker 1: really draconian enforcement. You know, some restaurants and bars were
Speaker 1: closed and now they're back to living in capacity, and
Speaker 1: some other businesses were closed. But overall, we didn't go
Speaker 1: nearly as far as other states. We're starting to move
Speaker 1: in the other direction now, we're starting to open things
Speaker 1: back up, and we probably don't get as much press
Speaker 1: as Saint Georgia did when when they did it, But
Speaker 1: we're still that we're right there with them as far
Speaker 1: as what we're doing, and compared to every pels, I
Speaker 1: guess that's some pretty aggressive opening businesses up, and I
Speaker 1: mean just allowing people to get back out. We're speaking
Speaker 1: to Glenn Jacobs, he's the mayor of Knox County. Mayor Jacobs. Well,
Speaker 1: the country, it seems to me, had this panic reaction
Speaker 1: and it was based in and Look, there were a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks there where I was like, well, I guess,
Speaker 1: I mean, if we're really facing what they're saying, we're
Speaker 1: facing in the way that they're telling us it's going
Speaker 1: to happen. We don't seem to have a lot of choice.
Speaker 1: But we've gone from fifteen days to stop the spread
Speaker 1: to now fifty some odd days to stop the spread,
Speaker 1: although there is some, as you said, some reopening in
Speaker 1: some places. Have you been surprised by the speed and
Speaker 1: the ease with which so many people seem to have
Speaker 1: relieve or allowed the state to relieve them of their
Speaker 1: liberties in this situation. I really have, And it's really
Speaker 1: it's disturbing because, as you said, it went from an
Speaker 1: idea of flattening the curse of the healthcare system wouldn't
Speaker 1: be overloaded, which is something I think that we can
Speaker 1: all look at and say, Okay, that's reasonable, although again
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, you know, I don't think that the government
Speaker 1: should be mandating the people stay inside or mandating a
Speaker 1: lot of things that went on. But you can understand
Speaker 1: for a short period of time, as we said in
Speaker 1: fifteen days, to flatten the curve. Okay, Well then it
Speaker 1: went to well actually now we can't. We can't go
Speaker 1: back out, and we can't open businesses until there's a vaccine.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, wait a second. You guys said one thing,
Speaker 1: now you're saying something else, and you've gone you know,
Speaker 1: if you actually read what like Neil Ferguson from the
Speaker 1: Imperial College of London said with their report, which was
Speaker 1: the one that caused everyone to completely freak out, which
Speaker 1: was two point two million deaths in America, they said
Speaker 1: that if you're going to do lockdown route that that
Speaker 1: can be up to eighteen months. And I was going
Speaker 1: on a any second, we there, we'll leave you in
Speaker 1: a stone age. If we go on an eighteen month lockdown.
Speaker 1: This is not possible, and even Fergus in his report
Speaker 1: acknowledge that. And the thing is, too we have these models,
Speaker 1: and the models keep on changing, and of course the
Speaker 1: models are only as good as the data, and they
Speaker 1: don't predict the future. I don't think that they ever
Speaker 1: really should have been used for public policy purposes. They
Speaker 1: should have been used for epidemiological purposes, and look at
Speaker 1: the spread, and certainly policymakers maybe should have taken them
Speaker 1: into account. But that became the driving force behind all
Speaker 1: these policy decisions. And then the problem with that buck
Speaker 1: is as a as an elected official, I have to
Speaker 1: look at this big picture, you know, this big puzzle
Speaker 1: of the community's overall well being in health, and certainly
Speaker 1: displays into that you also have to think about the
Speaker 1: economic health with the community. And you know, for the
Speaker 1: folks out there that think, well, you're putting profits of people, know,
Speaker 1: if you don't have a healthy economy, you're not going
Speaker 1: to have healthy people. And what we've done now is
Speaker 1: we've concentrated so much on the public health aspect that
Speaker 1: we've forgotten about everything else. And then we don't even
Speaker 1: know if if this lockdown strategy is going to work.
Speaker 1: When you look at these statistics from various countries and
Speaker 1: compare those that we don't know that it actually works.
Speaker 1: And then we don't know what the arc of the
Speaker 1: disease looks like because there's things like her immunity. And
Speaker 1: if you have a lockdown and people go back out,
Speaker 1: well they are you going to have a second way?
Speaker 1: There's a lot of an answer questions and we've just
Speaker 1: said okay, and it's fine, this government do whatever you
Speaker 1: need to do protect us, and we will trust you.
Speaker 1: And that's a very dangerous throat to beyond in history
Speaker 1: show since that we're speaking Glenn Jacobs, he's the mayor
Speaker 1: of Knox County, Tennessee. Mayor Jacobs. The debt is also
Speaker 1: something that I mean, at least when I came into
Speaker 1: conservative media about a decade a decade ago, there was
Speaker 1: a lot of concern about the debt. Well, it's gotten
Speaker 1: a lot worse since and what we see going on
Speaker 1: now is truly unprecedented. You're going to end up with,
Speaker 1: I mean, no one really knows right now, but trillions
Speaker 1: of dollars of additional spending. And also, I think, and
Speaker 1: this is the part of this that people haven't factored
Speaker 1: in trillions of dollars less in tax receipts and revenue
Speaker 1: across the board too, right, So we're going to be
Speaker 1: spending a whole lot more money as a government, and
Speaker 1: the government at the end of the year is going
Speaker 1: to be taking in a whole lot less money. So
Speaker 1: it's going to be a gulf that's wider than people
Speaker 1: even recognize. How do you see that pressure playing out
Speaker 1: in the economy And how worried are you about the
Speaker 1: prospect of just the United States being at in the
Speaker 1: neighborhood of thirty trillion dollars in debt by the end
Speaker 1: of this year, which some are saying is possible. I'm
Speaker 1: very worried about that. In fact, I'm much more worried
Speaker 1: about that than I am. The direct impact of COVID nineteen.
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen is a serious of public health fish and
Speaker 1: it's something certainly that needed to be addressed. But what's
Speaker 1: happened now with the way that we react did is
Speaker 1: we've caused an economic collapse that's gonna end up bringing
Speaker 1: in a monetary and physical crisis which is going to
Speaker 1: cause political upheap. It at some point, as you said,
Speaker 1: we're going to come out of this for thirty trillion
Speaker 1: dollars from debt. In two thousand and eight when we
Speaker 1: had the Great Recession, country had about ten trillion dollars
Speaker 1: from debt. And you look at what was done then,
Speaker 1: and this was a huge event. It pales in comparison
Speaker 1: to what's going on right now as far as the
Speaker 1: amount of money of the thorough government spending. We should
Speaker 1: all keep in mind the federal government doesn't happen money.
Speaker 1: The Federal Reserve can print money, and that's what's happening
Speaker 1: right now, and that's going to have the dilitaries effect
Speaker 1: on the dollar purchasing power dollar and the strength of
Speaker 1: the dollar. Currently we're in Bretton Woods two is the
Speaker 1: world monetary system. I think we can all assume at
Speaker 1: this point in Bretton Wood too is debt and something
Speaker 1: else is going to replace that. None of us knows
Speaker 1: what that is, but that's what I see, is I
Speaker 1: see in the end the the monetary situation, the fiscal situation. Currently,
Speaker 1: the federal government pays about four hundred billion dollars a
Speaker 1: year in debt service on twenty three, twenty four twenty
Speaker 1: dollars in debt. That's going to grow up even higher.
Speaker 1: They're trying to offset a deflationary spiral by throwing all
Speaker 1: this money into the economy. That's going to take a
Speaker 1: lot for that to happen because people just starting to
Speaker 1: spend money that the money circulation and velocity of money
Speaker 1: is very low, so inflation is going to be very low,
Speaker 1: and economists and the Fed, they're just going to keep
Speaker 1: on saying, throw more money, throw more money, throw more money.
Speaker 1: So you actually have an inflationary bomb in the economy.
Speaker 1: And when things start picking back up, and that inflation
Speaker 1: starts picking back up because of the huge amount of
Speaker 1: debt service that the federal government has to pay, they're
Speaker 1: not going to be older raisins strates like they have
Speaker 1: in the past. So a long term, over the next
Speaker 1: I don't know how many years, however long it takes,
Speaker 1: the US, unfortunately, is going to be in a very
Speaker 1: precarious situation. Speaking in Glenn Jacobs, mayor of Knox County
Speaker 1: towny See and may or to that end, I want
Speaker 1: to know what the picture is for small businesses. I mean,
Speaker 1: your county has hundreds of thousands of residents, so obviously
Speaker 1: a lot of businesses that are shut down right now
Speaker 1: must be struggling mightily. I know the Paycheck Protection Program.
Speaker 1: We had Monica Crowley from Treasury on my show earlier
Speaker 1: in the week on one of my shows earlier in
Speaker 1: the week talking about what PPP has done, but even
Speaker 1: she admitted, look, it's the government program. It's not perfect,
Speaker 1: but it's helping. But what are you hearing from small
Speaker 1: business owners and what are your concerns about the ability
Speaker 1: of both businesses currently shutter to reopen and people who
Speaker 1: have lost as we know what twenty some odd million
Speaker 1: now have officially lost jobs, probably more like thirty million overall.
Speaker 1: But of the people who have lost jobs in your state,
Speaker 1: that they'll be able to get those jobs back, that's
Speaker 1: a huge issue. Small businesses could be the ones most
Speaker 1: by this. The large businesses, the national chains, they have
Speaker 1: the revenue of the capital to survive something like this.
Speaker 1: Small businesses don't. And even now, what we're doing in
Speaker 1: Knos County, in the state of Tennessee, we have a
Speaker 1: gradual RePhase I'm sorry, gradual phased opening plan, which is
Speaker 1: of course better than nothing, but still now businesses have
Speaker 1: had in some cases no revenue for a month or
Speaker 1: six weeks, and now they're going to get like maybe half,
Speaker 1: maybe twenty five percent of their normal revenue. Businesses can't
Speaker 1: survive like that. And again, especially especially the small businesses,
Speaker 1: which are going to be hard the worst, and those
Speaker 1: are the backbone of our economy. They're the backbone of
Speaker 1: our local economy, they're the backbone of the national economy.
Speaker 1: And then if you think about people coming back to work,
Speaker 1: an issue with now the federal government trying to help
Speaker 1: people is the fact that in some cases they're making
Speaker 1: more money on unemployment than an employer can afford to
Speaker 1: pay them. So they're going to want to stay on
Speaker 1: that and rightfully so I don't blame them for as
Speaker 1: long as they can, which is going to cause another
Speaker 1: impact in the labor markets. So as you point out,
Speaker 1: it's the big guys for the most part, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to say to be okay, we've seen some bankruptcies
Speaker 1: and big companies, but they're much more prepared and much
Speaker 1: more equipped to whether this than the small businesses. And
Speaker 1: of course the small businesses that that's our neighbors. It's
Speaker 1: the mom and pop shops that many to go to
Speaker 1: and support and the people that are involved in our community,
Speaker 1: and it's it's really a travesty. One of my messages
Speaker 1: is always, to the extent that you can, and to
Speaker 1: the extent that you're comfortable. Please support your local small
Speaker 1: business if you want, if you want to see them.
Speaker 1: After all this is over and there's own business. It's
Speaker 1: up to us right now to do the most that
Speaker 1: we can to help support them. Mayor Glenn Jacobs, thanks
Speaker 1: so much, sir. I'll be out in Tennessee soon. Hopefully
Speaker 1: you guys will all be open. We can get a
Speaker 1: beer a little bit up please, Buck, thank you, you
Speaker 1: take care. You're in the Freedom Hunt. This is the
Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show podcast. Pandemics have been in the world before,
Speaker 1: and people survived them. We of course, could have survived
Speaker 1: this much better if idiot had done the right thing
Speaker 1: and listened and heated all the warnings. There were many,
Speaker 1: many warnings and we are all paying for it now.
Speaker 1: It would have been bad, maybe in some ways, but
Speaker 1: never like this. Hey, Robert de Niro thinks that it
Speaker 1: would have been bad, but it wouldn't have been that bad.
Speaker 1: But you know the idiot who doesn't like and you know, hey,
Speaker 1: it's he doesn't like Trump. Why do we have to
Speaker 1: hear from Robert DeNiro about pandemic response. I mean early,
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, does he know anything other than how
Speaker 1: to play basically the same character in a bunch of granted,
Speaker 1: some very watchable movies. You know, we give credit words
Speaker 1: due here. Casino actually a producer. Mark, Is Casino a
Speaker 1: better movie or good Fellows a better movie? No, that's
Speaker 1: that's a good Fellows. Yeah, I think I think good
Speaker 1: Fellows is the right choice there. Casino is a little
Speaker 1: bit soul crushing, you know, it's I mean not that
Speaker 1: there's not some of that and good Fellows too, but
Speaker 1: Casino is, like it gets kind of just too depressing
Speaker 1: toward the end. I found, you know, it's really you
Speaker 1: kind of you end up watching the movie. You're just like, oh,
Speaker 1: humanity is doomed. This is bad. But there's some very
Speaker 1: very watchable movies, very good things. I actually think that
Speaker 1: Meet the Parents is one of his better movies. You know,
Speaker 1: Little Jigsy, Little Jigsy, little little milking the cat Jigsy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love those movies. That's a crazy really that's a
Speaker 1: great movie to me. The funniest parts of Meet the
Speaker 1: Parents were the Jigsy the cat thing, and then also
Speaker 1: because I feel like we've all been there before, where
Speaker 1: we're forced to be in some kind of a competitive
Speaker 1: environment where you don't really want to compete, but like
Speaker 1: now you're now people are like, well, why aren't you
Speaker 1: better at this? And then you kind of turn it
Speaker 1: up a little bit and now you're the guy who's trying.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like you're playing flag football with someone
Speaker 1: else's family and you're getting and thrown in the bushes,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you try kind of hard,
Speaker 1: and you know, somebody gets a bloody nose from your
Speaker 1: elbow and the lover look's wrong with you. We've all
Speaker 1: been there before. I think that it's if you it's
Speaker 1: co ed sports too. If you're ever in a co
Speaker 1: ed sports environment wherevere's kind of like drinking beer and
Speaker 1: having fun and playing volleyball and then you like start
Speaker 1: missing anyway, that's what happens. To meet the parent the
Speaker 1: volleyball seat in the pool is amazing. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's one for the ages. I thought, what's your favorite scene, producer,
Speaker 1: Mark oh Man, that's hard. I mean, I think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say from Meet the Fockers, when Jinxi ends up
Speaker 1: in the toilet in the RV because the dog shoved
Speaker 1: him in the toilet. I haven't even seen Meet the Fock.
Speaker 1: Oh those are. It's a great continuation. That's why I
Speaker 1: say it's the meat Meet the Parents series, because there's
Speaker 1: a couple of them. I mean, I will. I think
Speaker 1: Meet the Parents is the best thing that Ben Stiller
Speaker 1: ever did, other than There's Something About Mary, which is
Speaker 1: an amazing movie to go back and watch, just because
Speaker 1: it's really a time capsule of how much society has
Speaker 1: changed and what it considers to be acceptable for entertainment purposes.
Speaker 1: There is so much in There's Something About Mary you
Speaker 1: would never be able to get away with now. I
Speaker 1: feel like you can say that about almost every older
Speaker 1: television show from like the nineties, early two thousands. Oh,
Speaker 1: Friends has a lot of Friends, makes a lot of
Speaker 1: LGBTQ community kind of jokes and fat jokes, And there's
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff even in Friends, which you think
Speaker 1: is the most saccharine, corporate friendly, sponsor friendly show imaginable.
Speaker 1: Oh no, you there's a lot of stuff. There have
Speaker 1: actually been articles written by people at Vox and other
Speaker 1: you know, beta mail establishments about how Friends is. You know,
Speaker 1: we shouldn't be celebrating it anymore. You know, I was
Speaker 1: watching Disney with the Snow Princess. We were watching the
Speaker 1: Aristocrats and as one does. So now you guys all
Speaker 1: know while I've been in a Disney kick too, it's
Speaker 1: because Snow Princess and she likes to watch Disney suns.
Speaker 1: She likes Disney films. So we watched Lion King recently.
Speaker 1: Lion King's great. Still moves really well too, It's still great, yeah,
Speaker 1: still grow, it's great. Oh, the old Disney stuff is fantastic.
Speaker 1: The newer Disney stuff is not really as good. But
Speaker 1: you know, we're watching the even the Auristic Cats, and
Speaker 1: they had I've never seen this warning before. Disney puts
Speaker 1: up in the you know, like when they tell you
Speaker 1: that in a movie that there's you know, nuderdy strong
Speaker 1: language whatever. They had a warning about outdated cultural stereotypes
Speaker 1: that now you can't have outdated cultural stereotypes in movies
Speaker 1: or you'll get in trouble. So, for example, the Siamese
Speaker 1: cats in a Lady in the Tramp they've I think
Speaker 1: they cut that out of some versions of it. Now, Um,
Speaker 1: you can't do that. So I'm just saying you know,
Speaker 1: they're even Disney, even the old Disney movies you can't
Speaker 1: get away with. And a lot of the old cartoons.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of the old cartoons. I think
Speaker 1: people would have a problem with now too. But anyway,
Speaker 1: all right, so let's get back into the mix here
Speaker 1: on this. I just I think it's funny. They know
Speaker 1: he is he from Roberts de Needle. What do you
Speaker 1: think about the pandemic? Robert? You know, I think if
Speaker 1: the idiot wasn't running things zoo, you know, that's great,
Speaker 1: that's really really so very helpful. Oh and they also
Speaker 1: wanted to hear from from al Gore. The fact that
Speaker 1: they almost made this guy presid the United States is appalling,
Speaker 1: and they really tried. He came very close. Play fourteen
Speaker 1: and to take your medical advice from a right wing
Speaker 1: talk show host who brings some questionable medical advice into
Speaker 1: the Oval office instead of listening to the Centers for
Speaker 1: Disease Control. And as was said earlier, where is the
Speaker 1: Centers for Disease Control? They're the ones that shouldn't be
Speaker 1: having these daily briefings. Where is the FDA? Why? Why
Speaker 1: were they bullied into opening the floodgates? And letting all
Speaker 1: of these crummy tests out there that we now know
Speaker 1: most of them don't work. This is a disgrace. The
Speaker 1: entire handling of this matter has been an uttering, complete disgrace.
Speaker 1: Was a CDC bullied into putting the test? No you
Speaker 1: more on? The CDC put the tests out because they're
Speaker 1: an incompetent federal organization that gets billions of dollars, usually
Speaker 1: to tell people to make sure their kids eat enough vitamins.
Speaker 1: The CDC does a lot of worthless stuff. All I
Speaker 1: do is look do Google search on CDC guidance and
Speaker 1: things they're doing. Children should get, you know, more more
Speaker 1: fruits and veggies in their diet every day. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what the CDC is often spending its time doing.
Speaker 1: It certainly not preparing for pandemic disease response. They were
Speaker 1: caught caught napping and then some on this one. But
Speaker 1: thanks for hearing from Al Gore. Oh my gosh, Democrats
Speaker 1: Al Gore, Joe Biden carry people they put forward to
Speaker 1: be president. So many of them are just clownish losers.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Buss and Show podcasts. Remember
Speaker 1: to subscribe on Apple podcasts. The iHeartRadio app or wherever
Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. Alright, team, I mentioned Operation Gideon,
Speaker 1: the failed overthrow of Venezuelan dictator Nicholas Maduro at the
Speaker 1: top of the show. This is a real thing that
Speaker 1: happened that people are not paying very much attention to,
Speaker 1: and involve some former US Special operators, a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of money, some shady activists, and other folks behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: What happened here? What went wrong? How could this have
Speaker 1: been done properly? We've got our friend Jack Carr to
Speaker 1: answer all this now. He's a former Navy seal and
Speaker 1: best selling author of the the latest book in his
Speaker 1: terminalist series, Savage Son, which Jack I am listening to
Speaker 1: on audiobook, by the way, true story, very much enjoying it.
Speaker 1: Although the turncoach CIA analysts. You know, I hope there's
Speaker 1: some good CI analysts in there too, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: some of the nerds are nice, say some of the
Speaker 1: nerds are patriots. Damn it, this is true. This is true.
Speaker 1: They're they're easy to pick on, kind of like politicians.
Speaker 1: And you know people in NOI NOE picks on more
Speaker 1: than I do. Well, when you know them, then you
Speaker 1: really know what's going on anyway, congrats on all the
Speaker 1: success of the book. And I know I saw Chris
Speaker 1: Pratt himself with the with the shout out for the
Speaker 1: Amazon series, so the word is out there. Now you're
Speaker 1: gonna have the Jack car series on Amazon, Savage Son,
Speaker 1: True Believer, all the Terminal List books. So all right,
Speaker 1: fantastic on that. And now let's drill down now that
Speaker 1: everyone who hasn't already heard knows they need to buy
Speaker 1: or download your book on audio. Now we can talk
Speaker 1: about what went down here man in Venezuela. You got
Speaker 1: some former US Special Operators, guys with real skill sets
Speaker 1: and real combat experience. They did, what I mean, give
Speaker 1: us the overview. Oh my goodness, so diving into this thing,
Speaker 1: just what a mess from start to finish, and not
Speaker 1: even start to finish, but before they'll lead up as
Speaker 1: far as not specific to this operation, but just their
Speaker 1: their mindset in doing anything, it seems. So you have
Speaker 1: this guy Jordan Gudreau. I don't know if I'm saying
Speaker 1: that name correctly, originally from Canada, early served in the
Speaker 1: US R and B from two thousand and one to
Speaker 1: twenty six. Team. And when someone gets out with a
Speaker 1: couple of years left. It's always a bit of a
Speaker 1: red flag, so I don't know what's going on there exactly,
Speaker 1: but at some point I think he went to eighteen
Speaker 1: Delta training with Army Special Forces, so for those listening,
Speaker 1: that's a medic training, very well trained guys, and then
Speaker 1: got out and did some private contracting in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1: After Hurricane Maria, which a lot of people I know
Speaker 1: did as well, he went down there to help, and
Speaker 1: then after the Parkland shooting in Florida, wanted to get
Speaker 1: into school security side of the house and put together
Speaker 1: our plan to embed special operators in schools around the country.
Speaker 1: That didn't really take off, and then he started this
Speaker 1: thing called Silver Corp, which looks like a want to
Speaker 1: be blackwater with some pictures on there and some very
Speaker 1: strange video of him at a Trump rally pretending to
Speaker 1: be a Secret Service agent if I'm not mistaken, with
Speaker 1: the earpiece in and had somebody there taking the video
Speaker 1: that then went up on site. That didn't say he
Speaker 1: was really protecting Trump, but it certainly gave the impression
Speaker 1: that he was protecting the president in an official capacity.
Speaker 1: And then into February twenty nineteen, he went down to
Speaker 1: Columbia and worked security at a live aid concert to
Speaker 1: raise money for the opposition and for the Venezuela opposition
Speaker 1: the party, and apparently that's where this plan was hatched
Speaker 1: to put together a band of mercenaries and deserters from
Speaker 1: the Venezuelan army and do some sort of an invasion
Speaker 1: of Venezuela and abduct the current president and fly him off.
Speaker 1: Two parts unknown, which is just you mentioned the live
Speaker 1: aid concert. This guy's actually he's doing security now. He
Speaker 1: was an SF guy, so and as you said, he
Speaker 1: was a medic. I mean, he had the skill set.
Speaker 1: So he's not some weekend warrior soldier and a fortune
Speaker 1: guy who's like been to a you know, a cig
Speaker 1: training academy thing for two days and now thinks that
Speaker 1: he understands these things, right. Not that those academies aren't great,
Speaker 1: they are, but you know what I mean. I mean,
Speaker 1: he actually served. He goes to do the security for
Speaker 1: Richard Branson at a live aid concert and basically he's
Speaker 1: at this concert and they're talking to people and it's like,
Speaker 1: let's do our own version of the Bay of Pigs,
Speaker 1: except in Venezuela, not Cuba. We're going to do a
Speaker 1: snatching grab with Nicholas Maduro, who does have a fifteen
Speaker 1: million dollars US bounty on his head, so this is,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's real cash here, and also has been
Speaker 1: oppressing his people, and as we all know, Venezuelas just
Speaker 1: devolved into anarchy, chaos, starvation, and just a complete mess.
Speaker 1: But the guy certainly understands security because he understands that
Speaker 1: his rule is with an iron fist and not with
Speaker 1: the consent of the people anymore. So then what happens
Speaker 1: after so they hatch the plan, then what goes down.
Speaker 1: So I think there's a few months there, we're not
Speaker 1: exactly sure what's happening. But by late summer, by August,
Speaker 1: he's now trying to get some investors. So instead of
Speaker 1: that fifteen million after the fact from the US government
Speaker 1: that you may or may not get depending on what happens,
Speaker 1: he's looking for some upfront money two hundred and thirteen
Speaker 1: million dollars from investors in this country. And the craft
Speaker 1: one of the crafts airs, was not really involved, but
Speaker 1: at least listened to the pitch, from what my understanding is,
Speaker 1: and then didn't support it apparently. But this guy, Jordan
Speaker 1: Gudreau goes ahead and somehow makes his way down to
Speaker 1: Columbia and starts working with these deserters. And another fascinating
Speaker 1: character is a former Venezuelan general who is now in
Speaker 1: custody in New York awaiting trial or selling service to
Speaker 1: air missiles for cocaine to some of these deserted groups
Speaker 1: in Columbia. It's just it's a crazy cast of characters
Speaker 1: that I'm sure we'll be made into some sort of
Speaker 1: a movie at some point. A long time they said
Speaker 1: that the JW marryout where these guys all met up
Speaker 1: initially in Bogata, Columbia, was described by the Associated Press
Speaker 1: as a center of intrigue among Venezuelan exiles. But for
Speaker 1: this occasion where Goudreau met with these guys, conference rooms
Speaker 1: will reserved for one participant, described as the Star Wars
Speaker 1: Summit of Anti Maduro Goofballs. Military deservers include an accused
Speaker 1: of drug trafficking, shady financiers, and former Maduro officials seeking redemption. Wow. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's so great. You almost can't make it up. It's
Speaker 1: just it's so great. I mean, it didn't end so
Speaker 1: poorly for everybody. It would almost be comical like Delta
Speaker 1: for Step movie or something like that, But it did
Speaker 1: actually remind me of the beginning of an invasion USA
Speaker 1: for those who saw that in the mid eighties, where
Speaker 1: they have an invasion of this country by a band
Speaker 1: of Chuck Norris destroys the ball. It's great, but that's
Speaker 1: what I thought of when I saw the video. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of video out there, you can go online
Speaker 1: and check it out. But apparently there were two landing
Speaker 1: sites in Venezuela, one where eight people were killed in
Speaker 1: the majority of the roam. So this is execution out
Speaker 1: This is the execution phase of the plan what they
Speaker 1: try to do. Sorry, keep going, no, but even before that,
Speaker 1: we should probably jump back really quick and talk about
Speaker 1: how there were some weapons and equipment that were intercepted
Speaker 1: by then the Colombian government at some point, and so
Speaker 1: Venezuela knew what was going on here. They knew something
Speaker 1: was in the works, not just something, but they knew
Speaker 1: that an invasion was evident to overthrow the current president
Speaker 1: and they were ready and waiting. So two beach landing sites,
Speaker 1: one of them where we have eight people killed and
Speaker 1: the rest of the people are most of them any way, arrested,
Speaker 1: and then there's another beach landing site where the two
Speaker 1: Americans it looks like anyway, another beach landing site where
Speaker 1: daylight a fish, a couple of fishing boats that don't
Speaker 1: look very seaworthy, and where a lot of the video
Speaker 1: of our two other army Special Forces guys are arrested
Speaker 1: along with some of the other invaders, mercenaries, deserters, or
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call them. So there's some video
Speaker 1: out there that's not very flattering, and it also shows
Speaker 1: tremendous restraint I thought, on the side of the Venezuela
Speaker 1: and government and police and military forces, because they could
Speaker 1: have just mowed everybody down like in the Bay of
Speaker 1: So they didn't. They just killed eight people and are
Speaker 1: currently searching for I think ninety two others right now.
Speaker 1: So Jordan Boudreau is still my understanding, is still out
Speaker 1: there somewhere, and in the middle of all this, he
Speaker 1: does a video tweet with a Venezuelan captain from the
Speaker 1: National Guard talking about what's going on, that they're there.
Speaker 1: They're almost doing a play by play of what's happening,
Speaker 1: and they tag President Trump's Twitter account on this. So
Speaker 1: I mean it's just fascinating. The whole thing is absolutely incredible.
Speaker 1: So now I has two of his buddies. SF guys
Speaker 1: are detained in Venezuela play out, the best place to
Speaker 1: be detained where we have no official relations right now,
Speaker 1: there's no embassy there to help work on their release.
Speaker 1: So we have these two guys that are that are
Speaker 1: in custody, that are being interrogated of course, and we
Speaker 1: have the President of Venezuela with their passports, reading it
Speaker 1: off on the news and being able to re least
Speaker 1: his people say hey, look we have the United States
Speaker 1: of theally involved in trying to invade our country. Um,
Speaker 1: you know we we prevailed over the innovaders and can
Speaker 1: rally some some nationalism around him, which probably helps him
Speaker 1: after what's been going on in his country for the
Speaker 1: past few were years, with everyone starving, no medical uh supplies, treatment,
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. So it is just a mess. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's probably the best way to describe it. Definitely mess.
Speaker 1: I mean, this was this was a go ahead, jack ahead.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Kennedy, President Kennedy. So the Bay
Speaker 1: Page wasn't really it wasn't a branchild with the Kennedy administration.
Speaker 1: It was patched by the Eisenhower administration, so Kennedy actually
Speaker 1: inherited that plan, and what he said in a lead up,
Speaker 1: although it was too late really to do much about it,
Speaker 1: was that it seemed too large to be clandestine and
Speaker 1: too small to be successful. So that's that's one of
Speaker 1: the parallels that we could look at when we're looking
Speaker 1: at this, which may be inspired by something like that,
Speaker 1: But what you really need in a situation like this
Speaker 1: is a government approach and an invasion of like an
Speaker 1: eighteen eighty nine invasion of Panama. Even though we're essentially
Speaker 1: going after one person in that, Mamuelinoiega. We brought a
Speaker 1: hole of government approach, obviously very heavy on the military
Speaker 1: side of the house, and an invasion rather than some deservers.
Speaker 1: So so I want to ask I want to ask
Speaker 1: you about about this part of it because I feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of the audience will be thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: so these guys thought they could pull this off. Some
Speaker 1: of them did have a real military skill set. A
Speaker 1: lot of these other guys that seemed like they're just
Speaker 1: kind of in the mix for whatever reason. But I
Speaker 1: want to ask him, just for everybody. We're talking to
Speaker 1: Jack Carr, author of the Terminal List series. His new
Speaker 1: book out right now, his Savage Son. I am listening
Speaker 1: to it. It is excellent and you guys should all
Speaker 1: download it as well. Chris Pratt will be playing the
Speaker 1: main character in the Amazon series, which Jack has promised
Speaker 1: me will be better than the Jack Ryan series, which
Speaker 1: made the granted handsome and intelligent CIA analyst look good.
Speaker 1: But the rest of the series was terrible in the
Speaker 1: second season. So Jack says this, so I know he
Speaker 1: doesn't like to say that because he's working with them
Speaker 1: as now. That's fine, you you can plead the fifth
Speaker 1: I'm just saying the second season I did not approve.
Speaker 1: I'm never going to deal with Amazon anyway. Let me
Speaker 1: let me ask you about what if you were presented
Speaker 1: back to this situation in Venezuela, if you were presented
Speaker 1: with this plan, would you what would have been the
Speaker 1: initial I look now now we've seen how it went wrong,
Speaker 1: But what what would have been the flags where you're like,
Speaker 1: if you guys are going to pull off a coup,
Speaker 1: you got no chance because of the following Well, there's
Speaker 1: there's so much to work with there, and I feel
Speaker 1: a little bit bad about picking it apart from here
Speaker 1: from Afar, especially when we have the US former military
Speaker 1: guys that are in custody down there. But I mean,
Speaker 1: just a background of what's going on here by looking
Speaker 1: at that Silver Corp site and looking at what was
Speaker 1: to copy and pasted from the Department of Homeland Security site,
Speaker 1: looking at that in a fake video of this guy
Speaker 1: pretending to protect Trumpet at a rally, and some of
Speaker 1: the background there saying that they've advised that there are
Speaker 1: fifty countries around on the world and have it advised
Speaker 1: units like Delta Force and the sas like right away,
Speaker 1: there's some red flag there. We're learned to looking at
Speaker 1: a leadership from from the leadership type of perspective, like
Speaker 1: who's leading this thing? This fly By eventially a fly
Speaker 1: By Nite Corporation that was was thrown up at hawk
Speaker 1: it looks like. And then some of those things that
Speaker 1: those of us who have been in special operations would
Speaker 1: look at and say, this just doesn't add up here
Speaker 1: through this thing together, fifty countries around the world is weird.
Speaker 1: Video that's out there just doesn't doesn't make sense. So
Speaker 1: so there's that from from the get go and then
Speaker 1: you actually look at this thing is hey, look at
Speaker 1: the history here we have. We have so we can
Speaker 1: go back to the nineteen fifty three coup in Iran. Okay,
Speaker 1: we have some lessons learned out of that. We kind
Speaker 1: of got we wanted for a while out of it,
Speaker 1: although we're still dealing with the repercussions of that. Today.
Speaker 1: We have Bay of Pigs. We can learn a lot
Speaker 1: from that as well, and we have something like the
Speaker 1: in then we get more specific to this area the world,
Speaker 1: and we look at the invasion of Panama in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty nine and we see something that worked. The guy
Speaker 1: that we were after. We have some lessons learned from
Speaker 1: that as well. And then we look at all that
Speaker 1: stuff holistically, in plus what we learned INTERAC and Afghanistan,
Speaker 1: and we look at that and apply it to this situation.
Speaker 1: And it looks like none of the lessons from any
Speaker 1: of these things were applied. If they really wanted to
Speaker 1: go in there, wanted to overthrow the government, wanted to
Speaker 1: essentially abduct the president and then take him two parts
Speaker 1: unknown to maybe collect his fifteen million dollars from the
Speaker 1: US government, that part's unclear. I mean if you had
Speaker 1: let me if you had. And this is not just
Speaker 1: in the theoretical space, right, so we understand. So you're saying, look,
Speaker 1: these guys, they didn't think it through, they didn't do
Speaker 1: they didn't have the lessons learned even from previous incursions
Speaker 1: into Latin America or other coups involving either US or
Speaker 1: other international personnel, so that they didn't really do the
Speaker 1: homework on it. From that respect, you said that you
Speaker 1: either want to be leading, mean, small and quiet, or
Speaker 1: you want to just do what you said Panama, like,
Speaker 1: we're going all in, We're gonna get one guy. We're
Speaker 1: going to control the battle space and then get this
Speaker 1: one guy instead of trying to sneak in the back
Speaker 1: door he or you know, a snatching grab like that.
Speaker 1: If you were trying to write for a novel, and
Speaker 1: you're Jack's a former Navy seal as you all know.
Speaker 1: But if you were trying to write for a novel here,
Speaker 1: you know, how would you would it? Would this be
Speaker 1: a dozen guys, twenty guys if they had the right intel,
Speaker 1: How could this work out in the real world? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? If you were war gaming it,
Speaker 1: if you were trying to do a snatching grab, not
Speaker 1: a hit, right, we don't do that. If you're trying
Speaker 1: to do a snatch and grab, take this guy back
Speaker 1: to the US to face justice, how what would that
Speaker 1: look like? Well, that's I think that the problem is
Speaker 1: they looked at it through the lens of someone like
Speaker 1: me who is now writing fiction, instead of the lens
Speaker 1: of someone who's actually planning these things in real life,
Speaker 1: either at the CIA or the military or whatever else.
Speaker 1: So it looks like someone like me sat down and thought, well,
Speaker 1: it would be a great way, a great storyline, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: was that a great storyline? Yeah, it's it's what it
Speaker 1: sounds like exactly. So yeah, real life, you either hit
Speaker 1: them hard full US government approach, You dominate that bat
Speaker 1: space like you said, grab your guy like we do
Speaker 1: with Noriega, to take him back for a trial. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's one way. The other way to do something like
Speaker 1: this in real life is through long term covert action
Speaker 1: penetration programs that your former employers are more familiar with,
Speaker 1: so you're not putting some guys in ninja suits sneaking
Speaker 1: through the streets of the capital of a country to
Speaker 1: go essentially to their White House to snatch the president
Speaker 1: and then get him to an airfield and fly him off,
Speaker 1: and what kind of an aircraft to wear. Like now
Speaker 1: we have we have some lessons to learn here, and
Speaker 1: what you would really do is activate those depenetration agents
Speaker 1: and you would either either it's assassination type thing, or
Speaker 1: you have people ready to go to step up and
Speaker 1: to essentially arrest like an actual who and arrest the
Speaker 1: president or doing things that are illegal and put him
Speaker 1: in prison and probably try him in that country, or
Speaker 1: work within the work within the existing battle space in
Speaker 1: some capacity, either personnel who understand what's really going on.
Speaker 1: It seems like that was I mean, it seems like
Speaker 1: this was in many ways for them an intelligence failure,
Speaker 1: intelligence victory unfortunately for the Maduro government because they saw
Speaker 1: it coming a mile away. But knowing stuff an event
Speaker 1: certainly it certainly helps. But Bett, if you if you're
Speaker 1: looking for some fodder for a book down the line,
Speaker 1: this certainly will provide it. Jack Carr, everybody check out
Speaker 1: the latest that he's got in the Terminal List series,
Speaker 1: Savage Son, what you're hearing me talking about on the show,
Speaker 1: because I am, in fact listening to it and it's
Speaker 1: great mister Jack car congrats again. I want to sign
Speaker 1: you know, Jack Carr slash Chris Pratt Savage sunbook. All right,
Speaker 1: one day, absolutely absolutely done. All right, Matt, thanks so
Speaker 1: much for joining us. Good to talk to you, dude.
Speaker 1: Take care. Thanks for listening to the Bus Sesson Show podcast.
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Speaker 1: I'd like to give people the best version of relaxed Jesse,
Speaker 1: because I'm here to get you and all your amazing
Speaker 1: viewers into the weekend mode. And that's what I'm here for.
Speaker 1: I just I feel like it also led me astray
Speaker 1: in the in the early days on Miami Vice, I figured, Wow,
Speaker 1: you can be a cop and drive around in the
Speaker 1: equivalent of like a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: ferrari as long as you live on a houseboat and
Speaker 1: have a pet alligator. There you go. You know what
Speaker 1: else Miami Vice did, and all Miami TV shows and
Speaker 1: movies do this exact same thing. Miami Beach is a
Speaker 1: beautiful place and it has some of the most beautiful
Speaker 1: women you've ever seen in your life. So all that's true,
Speaker 1: but almost every time they show Miami shows, or they
Speaker 1: show Miami on a show or movies, they always make
Speaker 1: it look as if it's some tropical paradise, some glistening paradise,
Speaker 1: when so many parts of Nia of Miami are absolutely
Speaker 1: run down holes. It has beautiful parts to it. But
Speaker 1: I have felt more unsafe in Miami than I ever
Speaker 1: did in Baghdad. Right, Well, I was gonna say Miami
Speaker 1: Vice was like a tourism ad for a city that
Speaker 1: actually in the eight in the eighties, there were broad daylight,
Speaker 1: full on machine gun shootouts between cartel assassins. It was
Speaker 1: one of the most violent places in the world for
Speaker 1: civilian crime stuff. It was out of control. But it
Speaker 1: was a great show. It's worse. It's worse than that
Speaker 1: it was a great show. It's worse that people don't realize,
Speaker 1: like the entire Miami Skyline was built on cocaine money.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, not making that up. That's not just like
Speaker 1: something that the crazy thing to say. You can watch
Speaker 1: the documentary Cocaine cowboysmentary called Cocaine Cowboy, Yep, that's right,
Speaker 1: and they talk about it how all of a sudden
Speaker 1: there was a bank on every corner because they're all
Speaker 1: laundering money and virtually everything you see in Miami was
Speaker 1: built from cocaine. It's just and when you go there
Speaker 1: you realize why. So, Jesse, I was gonna ask you
Speaker 1: about some of the news the day, but I also
Speaker 1: wanted to get your take on the Waco series, even
Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it. I just want to get
Speaker 1: your take on Waco in general. But the Waco series
Speaker 1: on Netflix is. I finished it last night. It's phenomenal.
Speaker 1: Taylor Kitch should have gotten some kind of I don't
Speaker 1: know if you got any awards, but not that I e.
Speaker 1: One cares about those awards these days. But he gave
Speaker 1: a remarkable performances. David Koresh and I was just noting that,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a tough week for the FBI, given
Speaker 1: the stuff with Flynn and now also a lot more
Speaker 1: people have seen this Waco situation. First off, have you
Speaker 1: seen the show? In second, just in general, even if
Speaker 1: you haven't seen it, what what should people remember about
Speaker 1: what happened in Waco, Texas at that standoff with Feds. Well, one,
Speaker 1: I'm two episodes in, but two I have seen the story.
Speaker 1: I obviously know the story very well. I know the
Speaker 1: Ruby Ridge story too, which obviously they cover in Waco,
Speaker 1: which is as bad or worse than Waco actually was.
Speaker 1: I mean, not for total loss of life, but it
Speaker 1: was really really ugly. And look, all people should take
Speaker 1: away from it is you can't necessarily trust the criminal
Speaker 1: justice system and you can't necessarily trust the government. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying you need to rebel against it, but there
Speaker 1: is this way of thinking in America that you have
Speaker 1: to either you know, respect police, or you have to
Speaker 1: be this anti cops scumbag. You can actually just be
Speaker 1: a normal, well reasoned, thinking human being who realizes that
Speaker 1: cops law enforcement in general, most of them are putting
Speaker 1: their butts on the line for you every single day,
Speaker 1: while at the same time they are the enforcement arm
Speaker 1: for every bad government policy there is. We see it
Speaker 1: right now when they're locking up salon owners. It's the
Speaker 1: history of the world says that cops in the military
Speaker 1: will be used by an overreaching government to enforce bad policies.
Speaker 1: And Americans, especially people on the right, when you've heard
Speaker 1: our people do this book of Oh, the military would
Speaker 1: never enforce these anti constitutional gun laws. Oh, cops would
Speaker 1: never go along with that. I hope you're all paying
Speaker 1: attention now, you've all seen a two month example of
Speaker 1: they will go along with anything they're told to do
Speaker 1: because it's their mortgage on the line, it's their car
Speaker 1: payment on the line. The government tells them to go
Speaker 1: arrest some poor stap for paddle boarding in the ocean,
Speaker 1: it's mobilized. The police votes, Baby, they're going to go
Speaker 1: put him in. Comes Jesse. Actually, that's that's a perfect
Speaker 1: transition as well into this story that's now getting a
Speaker 1: lot of attention because the President has commented. Actually, a producer, Mark,
Speaker 1: do you have the Do you have the president's comments
Speaker 1: on this one? If you do, just play it and
Speaker 1: I'll tell Jesse when we come back from Yeah, play
Speaker 1: clip seven. So I saw the tape and it's very,
Speaker 1: very disturbing. The tape I got to see it. It's
Speaker 1: very disturbing. I looked at a picture of that young
Speaker 1: man who was at a tuxedo and in fact, you
Speaker 1: put it up and I will say that that looks
Speaker 1: like a really good young guy, and it looks very
Speaker 1: it's a very disturbing situation to me, and I just
Speaker 1: you know, my heart goes out to the parents and
Speaker 1: the family and the friends, but yet we have to
Speaker 1: take it. You know, law enforcement's going to look at it,
Speaker 1: and they have a good governor in the state, and
Speaker 1: he's going to very good governor actually, and he's going
Speaker 1: to be looking added very strongly, and he's going to
Speaker 1: do what's right. But it's a it's a heartbreaking thing.
Speaker 1: You know, it's very rough, rough stuff. So Jesse President
Speaker 1: Trump saying that the video that he's seen of Ahmed
Speaker 1: Ahmed Arbury is heartbreaking stuff. It looks really bad. You know,
Speaker 1: they've got a good governor. Though they're gonna look into this.
Speaker 1: Law enforcement now has taken action to arresting people. They
Speaker 1: seem to be a tremendous amount of back and forth
Speaker 1: on social media. I came a little late to this story.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've just been looking at it last
Speaker 1: twenty four hours. But what we had mister Arbury was
Speaker 1: jogging two guys who are near their pickup truck. They
Speaker 1: had shotguns and they tried to get him to stop,
Speaker 1: and they said, I believe that they were trying to
Speaker 1: affect the citizens arrest because of burglaries that had happened
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood. Arbury had some kind of you know,
Speaker 1: some kind of confrontation with them that these guys forced
Speaker 1: and then he got shot and he was killed. Now
Speaker 1: there's video of it, And first off is the narrative,
Speaker 1: and I might be a little off as a narrative
Speaker 1: essentially right on the facts there, And what's your take
Speaker 1: on what happened here and what doesn't seem like there
Speaker 1: should be much argument. It looks like these guys killed
Speaker 1: this guy and they're not cops, and what the heck
Speaker 1: were they doing? Well, there's not much argument out there.
Speaker 1: People are acting as if oh, this is a wire
Speaker 1: and wire people standing up against this. Virtually every single
Speaker 1: person is standing against this. It's not much of an argument.
Speaker 1: This is not one of those cases where you see
Speaker 1: like five seconds of a police video that looks really
Speaker 1: bad and everyone jumps to conclusions and then you get
Speaker 1: the rest of the story and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you look like an idiot. No, we saw the whole
Speaker 1: thing on video. We have all the background on it.
Speaker 1: It looks like a former police officer. That's the dad
Speaker 1: and his son. The dad apparently had some sort of
Speaker 1: investigative history with this Ahmud Arbore, so he knew him
Speaker 1: in some way. But they tried to stop him with
Speaker 1: weapons when the guy was apparently out jogging. There was
Speaker 1: not even an accusation that he was doing anything wrong.
Speaker 1: We even have a nine one one transcript of them
Speaker 1: calling nine on one of the operators asking why are
Speaker 1: you calling nine one one, and they essentially say, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't really know. They don't have an answer. Look,
Speaker 1: it looks bad. It is bad. The bad part is
Speaker 1: this happened in February. Man, we all saw the video
Speaker 1: yesterday and those guys were just arrested last night after
Speaker 1: all this social media rage we saw and it shouldn't
Speaker 1: take that and people were losing faith in law enforcement.
Speaker 1: So all that's bad, But allow me to also say
Speaker 1: this one. This is not an opportunity for people like
Speaker 1: Lebron James to become some civil rights leader, which he
Speaker 1: badly wants to be talking about how black men are
Speaker 1: out there being hunted. We don't know that, we don't
Speaker 1: know a motivation. We can talk about the fact that
Speaker 1: an innocent man was apparently gunned down and feel for
Speaker 1: his family without instantly making everything as if you're Martin
Speaker 1: Luther King, You're not stop with that. That's one. Two.
Speaker 1: The people on the right. I see it. This drives
Speaker 1: me crazy. I've seen it all over the media. Of
Speaker 1: this there's a modern day lynching. We can't have this
Speaker 1: lynching of all these people on the right with the
Speaker 1: stupid language. People, just because the left has called you
Speaker 1: racist for the last thirty years doesn't mean you are,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't mean you have to overcompensate every time
Speaker 1: a black dude gets killed to try to really prove
Speaker 1: how not racist you are. I have black friends, I
Speaker 1: said lynching. Doesn't that make me one of the increp people.
Speaker 1: You can just judge each case as it is. The
Speaker 1: dude wasn't a black man. It was a dude who
Speaker 1: got murdered. That's really bad. It's bad enough. Feel for
Speaker 1: his family, cry for justice, which we're apparently going to
Speaker 1: get in. It's fine, you're not Martin Luther King. You
Speaker 1: don't have to check out all the wop boxes. Just
Speaker 1: because the left has been lying about what you believe
Speaker 1: co sign I mean, I think I think that pretty
Speaker 1: much covers it on that case. And it looks like
Speaker 1: it looks like a you know, then these guys like
Speaker 1: a charge with manslaughter or murder and unless there's something
Speaker 1: we don't really know, which doesn't seem like there is.
Speaker 1: They should spend a whole lot of time in prison.
Speaker 1: And that's the way it is. You know, I will
Speaker 1: tell you. I will tell you started interrupt the real quick.
Speaker 1: I always because I'm so hesitated on these things, because
Speaker 1: of all the outrage, I'm hesitant to ever or ever
Speaker 1: even comment on it. I looked into this quite a
Speaker 1: bit over the last twenty four hours. It is apparently
Speaker 1: as bad as it looked initially. It looks pretty open. Well,
Speaker 1: I just think about it from from the end. You know,
Speaker 1: you always hear this stuff from from the left wing
Speaker 1: media of Oh, and even now, I'm like, there's was
Speaker 1: there any controversy? I didn't hear any controversy. You're like, no,
Speaker 1: there's no I mean when I say there's no controversy,
Speaker 1: there's no two sides that are one side saying yeah,
Speaker 1: this looks like it's totally I haven't seen anyone say
Speaker 1: this looks this looks like it was a clean shoot
Speaker 1: or a legal shoot or a you know, law enforcement
Speaker 1: uses different terms for its self defense. I haven't seen
Speaker 1: anybody making that case based on the video. And it
Speaker 1: reminds me of when that guy that that African American
Speaker 1: man was shot running away from the cop. I think
Speaker 1: it was in South Carolina, and there was all this
Speaker 1: lib outrage about see conservatives or even defending this. Every
Speaker 1: single conservative and media I know was like, that was murder.
Speaker 1: Send that dude who shot him to prison for like
Speaker 1: there was no there wasn't a back and forth over that,
Speaker 1: Like people don't actually defend people murdering other people on
Speaker 1: the right and the left seems to like to pretend
Speaker 1: this game that pretend that that's what happens. But I
Speaker 1: think I think we've pretty much covered where this one is.
Speaker 1: We're speaking of Jesse Kelly everybody. He is the host
Speaker 1: of the Jesse Kelly Show on radio, and also I'm
Speaker 1: right with Jesse Kelly on Pluto TV's the first which
Speaker 1: is why I can see him, which is why I'm
Speaker 1: giving a hard time about his Miami Vice outfit today.
Speaker 1: But I also wanted to transition Jesse, because you're one
Speaker 1: of the You're one of the few. I mean, I
Speaker 1: can kind of count most of the skeptics out there,
Speaker 1: And when I say skeptics, I just mean people that
Speaker 1: ask questions, right, people that are saying, hold on a
Speaker 1: second about this. You've been very vocal about the damage
Speaker 1: the economy and how the lockdowns were a bad idea.
Speaker 1: I was even more vocal about it for me initially,
Speaker 1: and then I was just like, Okay, people are crazy.
Speaker 1: I can't even I can't take this. And now I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, this has gotten so bad, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: vocal about it again. And there are few barrens in
Speaker 1: I don't know, Matt Walsh is very very much in
Speaker 1: favor of reopened. I mean, there's like a few dozen
Speaker 1: of us that I've been yelling about this for a
Speaker 1: long time online. What's it going to take, man? When?
Speaker 1: Because I guess now has it just become so political
Speaker 1: that it doesn't matter how much suffering there is and
Speaker 1: how many people are losing their businesses and their life
Speaker 1: savings in the process. As long as this crush is Trump,
Speaker 1: it's worth it two people. Is that where we are?
Speaker 1: To be honest, Buck, It's even worse than that. It's
Speaker 1: all a game of percentages, man, It's all a game
Speaker 1: of percentages. The pull after poll after poller continually shows
Speaker 1: that sixty seventy percent of the people are okay with us,
Speaker 1: and the reason for that is Yeah, we've got forty
Speaker 1: fifty million Americans probably unemployed. That's probably the real number.
Speaker 1: It's top thirty three million. It's a lot more than that.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows that, but virtually everyone else is either still
Speaker 1: getting a paycheck or because of that idiot bill they
Speaker 1: passed at two three and dollar bill, everyone was cheering.
Speaker 1: They're paying people the equivalent of fifty two thousand dollars
Speaker 1: a year to be unemployed. I personally know business owners
Speaker 1: more than one who have called their employees because we're
Speaker 1: opening back up in Texas and said, hey, it's about
Speaker 1: time to get back to work, and their employees have said, no,
Speaker 1: I'm making more money now. So not only have we
Speaker 1: crushed jobs, but we're paying people to stay home. Therefore,
Speaker 1: most of the public, not all, I'd say thirty percent
Speaker 1: of the public, wants to open back up. The rest
Speaker 1: of the people were either still getting to check or
Speaker 1: they're making more money on unemployment. So the politicians look
Speaker 1: at these numbers and think, keep them locked down, and
Speaker 1: we are kicking this can down the road, and the
Speaker 1: pain is now just because it's delayed. Oh, it's it's
Speaker 1: really really bad, buck, I don't I know. It's a Friday.
Speaker 1: I don't want to bring anybody down, But as bad
Speaker 1: as you think it is, if I were to actually
Speaker 1: go into all the details of what's happening in this economy,
Speaker 1: it's ten times worse than that. We are what's going
Speaker 1: to take serious the problem here? And you know the politicians,
Speaker 1: you know Cuomo and these people that have been heralded
Speaker 1: in the media. Has Cuomo has been a disaster in
Speaker 1: New York. I mean his contribution so far has been long,
Speaker 1: overblown press conferences that didn't give us data that we
Speaker 1: couldn't have gotten in two slides in two minutes, and
Speaker 1: then also sending people with COVID nineteen back into nursing homes.
Speaker 1: That's been his contribution to the fight against COVID nineteen
Speaker 1: in New York. It's it's been an end complaining about
Speaker 1: ventilators and then turns out we don't need them. But
Speaker 1: the fact that people and this is my concern, that
Speaker 1: people in a majority still want the lockdown to continue.
Speaker 1: You broke down why some people are still getting a paycheck.
Speaker 1: Some people don't understand the economic implications. What does it
Speaker 1: take for that number nationally to move so that people
Speaker 1: realize we've got has to become personal for enough people,
Speaker 1: and it hasn't yet. That's just the truth of the matter.
Speaker 1: But for two months, a lot most people or either
Speaker 1: collected unemployment. They're watching Netflix, they're bay drinking, which God
Speaker 1: God love them for that. But as soon as people
Speaker 1: start showing up at the supermarket and there's no meat,
Speaker 1: then they'll realize. As soon as the unemployment checks stopped coming,
Speaker 1: then they'll realize as soon as we open back up
Speaker 1: and you have exactly half of the restaurants who used
Speaker 1: to have, and they'll realize. I mean, people are not
Speaker 1: gonna it's official now. We live in a country. Sadly,
Speaker 1: unless until it becomes personal, people don't care. I thought
Speaker 1: the one, the one thing I've ever been wrong about
Speaker 1: ever in my life, buck was at the very beginning
Speaker 1: of this I told everybody we were going to have
Speaker 1: thirty plus million unemployed people. Everyone told me I was
Speaker 1: an idiot and I was wrong, and of course I
Speaker 1: turned out to be right, like always. But what I
Speaker 1: said was, once we hit that number, America will freak
Speaker 1: out and wake up, and they'll turn on a diamond
Speaker 1: say open us back up. That's what I was wrong about.
Speaker 1: They still don't give a crap until fifty one percent
Speaker 1: of this population is flat broken, busted, we won't open
Speaker 1: back up again. Thank you, right, which is really disconcerting,
Speaker 1: But he is right because that's the name of his show.
Speaker 1: I'm right with Jesse Kelly. That's the place you should
Speaker 1: go on Pluto TV to check him out. Also listen
Speaker 1: to Jesse Kelly Show and down in KPRC Houston. It's
Speaker 1: a fantastic radio lineup there. They have Jesse Kelly and
Speaker 1: Buck Sexton, so that makes it the best radio station
Speaker 1: in Houston, no question. Chuck him out, Jesse, thanks for
Speaker 1: your time. Man, been good man. You're in the Freedom High.
Speaker 1: This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. I mean it's
Speaker 1: been stunning. Actually, how the some of his surrogates with
Speaker 1: the blue checks. You know that our historians have been
Speaker 1: saying really horrible things about me and to me on
Speaker 1: social media. He hasn't himself, but there is a measure
Speaker 1: of hypocrisy with the campaign saying it's safe. It's not
Speaker 1: been safe. You know, all my social media has been hacked,
Speaker 1: All my personal information has been dragged through every person
Speaker 1: that maybe has a gripe against me, an ex boyfriend
Speaker 1: or an ex landlord or whatever it is, has been
Speaker 1: able to have a platform rather than me talking about
Speaker 1: things that have nothing to do with nineteen ninety three,
Speaker 1: like even the whole thing with being called a Russian agent,
Speaker 1: that in particular that incites people people. Actually I got
Speaker 1: a death threat from that because they thought I was
Speaker 1: being a traitor to America. And I mean, these are
Speaker 1: serious things, and his campaign is taking this position that
Speaker 1: they want all women to be able to speak safely.
Speaker 1: I have not experienced that. We will not forget the
Speaker 1: allegations against Joe Biden here on the show, nor will
Speaker 1: we allow it to go without notice that there are
Speaker 1: people who are working for the election of Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: who are supporting him, who are trying desperately to silence
Speaker 1: terror Reid and her thus far entirely credible, not proven,
Speaker 1: but credible allegation of sexual assault that does have contemporaneous corroboration.
Speaker 1: We're not going to let this go. The Democrats, the Libs,
Speaker 1: they pretend to have certain principles, certain goals in mind
Speaker 1: for women, and we know that they're frauds and we
Speaker 1: will hold them accountable for that. So I know, we
Speaker 1: didn't talk about this much that in the show, but
Speaker 1: I will deep dive with you on this on Monday.
Speaker 1: Don't think that I'm letting this one slide. Joe Biden
Speaker 1: and the Democrats are going to answer for what they
Speaker 1: need to here. It's going to happen. Thanks for listening
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Speaker 1: what we're doing on the on the Pluto TV channel,
Speaker 1: and we'll also post some exclusive content there. We're going
Speaker 1: to be doing more and more of that. You know.
Speaker 1: The problem I have now is I'm spending so many
Speaker 1: hours every day doing radio that I really actually am
Speaker 1: running out of time to do anything else than any
Speaker 1: given day. So because I'm doing five hours of radio,
Speaker 1: which is a lot for anybody, five hours of solo radio.
Speaker 1: I've never heard of anyone else doing that. I'm sure
Speaker 1: there are some people who have done it, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. That's not not common. David Wright saying, hey, Buck,
Speaker 1: you're a few years younger than I am. But I
Speaker 1: remember when I was a kid, if somebody got chicken pox,
Speaker 1: our parents would have chicken pox parties so we could
Speaker 1: all get out of the way. I'll be a different,
Speaker 1: different virus, but same premise. And David, I've heard of this,
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think people have done this with I mean,
Speaker 1: I think measles is more dangerous than chicken pox. I
Speaker 1: don't really know, though, so don't take my word on
Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, I've heard of this. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: chicken pox can actually come back later on in life
Speaker 1: as shingles too, And interestingly enough, I, as a teenager
Speaker 1: had I had I had chicken poxes a little kid,
Speaker 1: but I actually had shingles as a teenager, which is
Speaker 1: very rare, and they had no idea why. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I had full blown shingles when I was about eighteen.
Speaker 1: And to give you a sense of how brilliant doctors are.
Speaker 1: The first dermatologist, a specialist that I went to, thought
Speaker 1: that it was spider bites. It was not spider bites.
Speaker 1: I had to go back and because it spread and
Speaker 1: grew and was very painful. It was on the trunk,
Speaker 1: on my body, and they still I was like, why
Speaker 1: am I getting I'm a healthy kid, I was eighteen,
Speaker 1: I was in great shape. I felt fine, Why am
Speaker 1: I getting shingle? You know, usually it happens people with
Speaker 1: a weekend immune system when they're older, and it's a
Speaker 1: recurrence of the chicken pox chicken pox virus that stays
Speaker 1: in your system. It lies dormant in your system and
Speaker 1: comes back later on, making me very bad for a
Speaker 1: particularly older people. If you get it tends to happen
Speaker 1: on the trunk or on the face, and if it
Speaker 1: gets near your eyes, you can actually go blind from it.
Speaker 1: I think, so you got to be very careful with shingles.
Speaker 1: It's very painful too. Anyway, Ed Rights producer Mark and
Speaker 1: Buck glad you're making it through the great lockdown to
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Thank you both for what you give us
Speaker 1: out here in lockdown. A well thank you, Ed My
Speaker 1: Talk Radio roots go way back to before the late
Speaker 1: nineteen eighties when Rush was doing caller Abortions m During
Speaker 1: the Waco incident, Tacos Ge Gordon Lyddy always referred to
Speaker 1: the HRT as the WOW as the hostage roasting Team.
Speaker 1: It sticks with me to this day and I think
Speaker 1: of it every time you mentioned Waco driving listening with
Speaker 1: Shield's Eye, Well, thank you, Ed. Yeah, I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm telling you everybody listening to this one if you're
Speaker 1: looking for a show on Netflix, that Waco Show is
Speaker 1: and it was originally was it? What was it on?
Speaker 1: What channel? Was Paramount Network? What was it called Paramount Network?
Speaker 1: It was Paramount Network. Really, I think it was just
Speaker 1: like US is what FX is now? Well, yeah, it was,
Speaker 1: that's right. I think it was an FX series and
Speaker 1: now it's owned by Paramount Um. But it was a Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a very good series, a very good show. I
Speaker 1: highly highly recommend you check it out. And Taylor Kitch,
Speaker 1: whom some of you would know from, he played Gambit
Speaker 1: in one of the X Men movies. Briefly, so if
Speaker 1: you saw what was it was the Wolverine movie, I
Speaker 1: think do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: know you're talking about, but I don't remember him innute. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I forget what. Yeah, he was in it. He was like,
Speaker 1: my name is Remy Lebeaux. I have a weird French
Speaker 1: accident and I'm Gambit, you know. And he's only in
Speaker 1: the movie for a couple of seconds. It is not
Speaker 1: it's not a good appearance really because the Gambit character
Speaker 1: they don't I didn't think they did a good job
Speaker 1: with at all. But he's also from Friday Night Lights,
Speaker 1: which was a show that I liked a lot, even
Speaker 1: though it had its problems. But he the Waco you
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta watch it because here here's the one
Speaker 1: that this factoid. I knew this beforehand, but this comes
Speaker 1: up at the end. FBI said, you had seventy five
Speaker 1: people die either burned to death or smoke innhilation in
Speaker 1: the Waco compound. And FBI made no provision to put
Speaker 1: out the fire after they used the cs gas. So
Speaker 1: the whole that when the building catches on fire, they
Speaker 1: didn't think and they'd been parked outside for like two months. Okay,
Speaker 1: no one thought to have fire trucks handy. That's not
Speaker 1: exactly great planning. It's not like they were short on
Speaker 1: time to figure this out either. And then initially the
Speaker 1: FBI claimed that they did not use any incendiary devices
Speaker 1: of any kind while they were using the cs gas
Speaker 1: to drive them out of the compound. Tear gas basically
Speaker 1: drive them out of the compound. And then it came out,
Speaker 1: oh no, they use flashbang gren eggs and grenades, which
Speaker 1: can be an incendiary device. So they lied. They lied
Speaker 1: about it, which you know, FBI cannot lie. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe they should like put that on big plaques and
Speaker 1: put her all over the Jay Edgar Hoover building in DC.
Speaker 1: Quite a guy to name the FBI building for it
Speaker 1: when you think about some of his stuff. Anyway, I
Speaker 1: really recommend you see the Waco show surely, And by
Speaker 1: the way, you know the other thing is, yeah, but
Speaker 1: the branch Davidians, i mean, David Koresh was a nut
Speaker 1: job and a peto and a lot of terrible stuff
Speaker 1: going on there too. But we expect the FBI to
Speaker 1: act appropriately even when dealing with Koresh. Koresh like nut jobs.
Speaker 1: Surely have you seen patients of videos of patients being
Speaker 1: wheeled out of the hospital after surviving complicated treatment for
Speaker 1: COVID staff lining the hall is clapping. I guess they
Speaker 1: are over fifty staff standing right next to each other,
Speaker 1: but wearing masks inside a hospital yet fill in the blank.
Speaker 1: Can't be in a salon, can't be in a church, etc. Etc. Well, surely,
Speaker 1: I mean, surely, I think I get what you're trying
Speaker 1: to say here, But keep in mind that in a
Speaker 1: hospital they're being I mean, they're wearing protective equipment and
Speaker 1: they're they're all being exposed to the virus. So they're
Speaker 1: inherently being exposed to virus. It's a little different than say,
Speaker 1: in a grocery store something like that. But we'll keep it.
Speaker 1: We gotta keep an eye on make sure that the
Speaker 1: standard is applied universally through all these different jurisdictions that
Speaker 1: are saying you have to wear wear masks. But you know, hospitals,
Speaker 1: they they're on they're dealing with this stuff, and so
Speaker 1: they know they know what they're what they're up against.
Speaker 1: At this point, Dave, how is it that China opened
Speaker 1: up a while back, but we are still closed with
Speaker 1: talk of kids not going back to school in the fault? Dave,
Speaker 1: that is a very good question for which nobody really
Speaker 1: has a great answer. Did China really control this thing?
Speaker 1: Or is China pretending to have it under control? We
Speaker 1: know China not just not only lied about it in
Speaker 1: the early stages, but also the Chinese government was stockpiling
Speaker 1: equipment to deal with it when they were telling everybody
Speaker 1: else that, you know, there was no big deal here,
Speaker 1: that's going to be fine. And we know they lied
Speaker 1: about the casualties they suffered from this. But have they
Speaker 1: using extreme measures? Have they really managed to contain which
Speaker 1: I guess is the best way to describe it, contain
Speaker 1: the virus. There are some other countries that seem to
Speaker 1: have achieved a state of containment right now, Australia, Japan,
Speaker 1: South Korea. They seem to have this contained, but they're
Speaker 1: also not fully returned, so they have a contained but
Speaker 1: they haven't really fully returned to normal life either, So
Speaker 1: I think that's notable. But the answer is I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly, and I don't think anybody really
Speaker 1: knows exactly how true China's containment is and what they've
Speaker 1: done well that we could emulate over here. Eric is
Speaker 1: a very smart character, this Eric, he writes in the
Speaker 1: subject line, I love producer Mark Gee. I wonder if
Speaker 1: when producer Mark is looking for roll call segments that
Speaker 1: is going to catch his attention. Eric, you are a
Speaker 1: smooth operator. That was very smart, I admit, and I
Speaker 1: rarely include the subject line in the email, but I
Speaker 1: mean when I sent it to you, But Eric worked
Speaker 1: the system on this one. We gotta give him credit
Speaker 1: for it. Quick question, Buck, do you think the Salon
Speaker 1: case in Dallas will end up in the Supreme Court
Speaker 1: to determine the constitutionality of it. I hope it gets
Speaker 1: deemed unconstitutional to set a pressent for the next time
Speaker 1: the Lips try to pull this again. What are your thoughts, Eric,
Speaker 1: I don't it's not going to go that far. I
Speaker 1: think the state is likely to drop all charges against her.
Speaker 1: And you know we've seen this now with the Supreme
Speaker 1: Court decision that I actually think was the wrong one
Speaker 1: for guns and the transportation of legally owned firearms here
Speaker 1: in New York, where all they had to do was
Speaker 1: once they got caught with what was clearly an unconstitutional law,
Speaker 1: they changed the law a little bit, and then when
Speaker 1: it makes its way with the Supreme Court, Supreme Court
Speaker 1: says it's a moot point. It doesn't matter anymore. So
Speaker 1: if the lockdown, you know, I would think that some
Speaker 1: of this stuff we're seeing in lockdowns, if people sue
Speaker 1: when they're suing for relief, unless they can prove specific
Speaker 1: damages to themselves or their business, which I'm sure a
Speaker 1: lot of people could. But you know, this is going
Speaker 1: to get very complicated. But they're going to also say, well, look,
Speaker 1: this is no longer the law, so we don't really
Speaker 1: have to worry about this, do we. That seems to
Speaker 1: me to be at least somewhat the precedent that was
Speaker 1: set in that Supreme Court case you're in the freedom Hunt.
Speaker 1: This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. All right, rollcall
Speaker 1: continuing here. Buck love the show. Listen to the podcast
Speaker 1: every day. This is from Nate. Thank you so much, Nate.
Speaker 1: Here in Virginia, Comrade Northam just extended our non essential
Speaker 1: business shutdown for the whole state, despite fifty percent of
Speaker 1: Virginia's cases being limited to the counties and cities around
Speaker 1: DC and Richmond. I live in a small city in
Speaker 1: the western part of the state. We only have twenty
Speaker 1: confirmed cases and one hospitalization. I spoke to a friend
Speaker 1: whose wife is a nurse with the UVA Health System,
Speaker 1: and according to her, only three of the hospitals twenty
Speaker 1: ventilators have been used. My parents are in the high
Speaker 1: risk category, but even they say this has gone on
Speaker 1: way too long. We're all just hard of being cooped
Speaker 1: up in our houses. Yeah. I hear this from more
Speaker 1: and more people, even who are in the high risk
Speaker 1: category in New York too. They're saying, you, guys, we
Speaker 1: might be a little slower, but you who are at
Speaker 1: lower risk, if you want to go out there, you
Speaker 1: should be able to. You should be able to open
Speaker 1: your business. Just go to work and start to engage
Speaker 1: in day to day life and commerce and things like
Speaker 1: going to the gym. If the gym in my in
Speaker 1: my building where I live opened and I live in
Speaker 1: a building with hundreds and hundreds of residents, so the
Speaker 1: gym can be very busy. If the gym in my
Speaker 1: building opened up, I would go tomorrow. Just the truth.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know there's some risk or whatever, and
Speaker 1: you know, I try not to touch my eyes a
Speaker 1: lot after touching the shared equipment and stuff, But you know,
Speaker 1: what else are you gonna do? Because man, I'm getting
Speaker 1: a little slower and a little rounder every day. Right now.
Speaker 1: I've done I've been doing some push ups here and
Speaker 1: there when I can, But you know, it's tough to
Speaker 1: motivate through pushups when like you're just wearing sweats all
Speaker 1: day and the most exciting part of your day is
Speaker 1: picking out what you're gonna watch on TV, and you
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna put on the popcorn you're making,
Speaker 1: Slash the ice cream you're eating, Slash the cookies that
Speaker 1: you might be baking. You know what I mean? What
Speaker 1: happens to that one hundred push up challenge? I got
Speaker 1: about seven days in it, and then I got a
Speaker 1: headache and I kind of fell off then for a week. Though,
Speaker 1: well it's more than I did, I guess. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: so I probably should get back to because it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be thirty days not seven buck Yeah, good, good point,
Speaker 1: good reminder. That multipodcast, you know, I got it to
Speaker 1: do list I got. I would put the multipodcast above
Speaker 1: the pushups. That's just me alright, alright, fair enough, Oh,
Speaker 1: Nate writes more. I didn't even see this. I get
Speaker 1: a laugh, perfect tibe. Whatever your producer, Mark discuss pet options.
Speaker 1: I've had guinea pigs for about eight years. They're very
Speaker 1: friendly and common. Great attributes for when you're stuck at
Speaker 1: home during a pandemic, plus easy to maintain. If you
Speaker 1: really want to be ambitious, you can get their South
Speaker 1: American cousin, the copy Bara, which is truly a an
Speaker 1: r o us a rodent of unusual size. Keep up
Speaker 1: the great work, shields high, Nate. Can you legally get
Speaker 1: a copy bar in America? I know, they're like rats
Speaker 1: that are the size of dogs, literally the size of dogs.
Speaker 1: They are rodents that are huge. Yeah, they're they do
Speaker 1: no googles. No, no, I don't. I don't want to know.
Speaker 1: They're kind of cute though, because they don't have a
Speaker 1: scary looking rat face. Just get a doll, yeah, or
Speaker 1: just get you see. Basically, you want me to get
Speaker 1: a subway rat, June. No, no, no, a thirty pound
Speaker 1: subway rat. I mean, I wouldn't be shocked if you
Speaker 1: saw one of those on the subway, would you? Especially? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I feel like you don't know what they down there.
Speaker 1: I've definitely seen some rats that I feel like we're
Speaker 1: three or four pounds, three or four. I've seen ones
Speaker 1: that are at least close to ten. Come on, yes,
Speaker 1: come on, you've never seen one on the subway would
Speaker 1: be absolutely I might be exaggerating a little bit, but
Speaker 1: like there's some huge rats down on the subway system. Yeah. Man,
Speaker 1: it's a perfect environment for them. They're people just throwing
Speaker 1: trash and food down there all the time. They can
Speaker 1: you know, they have no real they have no real predators.
Speaker 1: People start trash on the tracks as if there's not
Speaker 1: like a garbage can ten feet away from them. I did,
Speaker 1: you know? I did. I never understand why people can't
Speaker 1: take better, better care of their trash on the subway,
Speaker 1: and then they complain when the subway shuts down because
Speaker 1: the trash is on fire or something. Yeah, it's crazy, Jake,
Speaker 1: keeps it going here, Buck, you really should move to Nashville.
Speaker 1: You would have access to an iHeartRadio facility, no state
Speaker 1: income tax, and minimum state gun laws not to mention freedom.
Speaker 1: You could live in the middle of the city if
Speaker 1: you wanted to stay urban, or you could live in
Speaker 1: a suburban rural area if you wanted to breathe clean air,
Speaker 1: not paying state income tax. You could probably fly back
Speaker 1: to see your family in NYC once a month and
Speaker 1: still come out ahead. Jake, that is a very feasible
Speaker 1: and enticing plan. So don't think that that has not
Speaker 1: crossed my mind, especially as the New York shutdown continues
Speaker 1: to drag on and on. I love Nashville, great town.
Speaker 1: I actually just spoke to a friend yesterday out in
Speaker 1: Denver about trying to go out and see our friends
Speaker 1: at ninety three seven FM in Denver. So once the
Speaker 1: world opens up and I can start to travel again,
Speaker 1: they mean that I've been promising KLBJ Austin, and I've
Speaker 1: been promising and now recently ninety three seven FM Denver,
Speaker 1: that I'll make stops there. So those are two very
Speaker 1: high on the list for me. But we got we
Speaker 1: got a lot of places, a lot of places we
Speaker 1: want to visit, you know, a lot of things that
Speaker 1: we want to want to check out and see. I mean,
Speaker 1: we got WRNO in New Orleans. I love New Orleans.
Speaker 1: Bruster Mark, we'd go on a little, a little field
Speaker 1: trip down there. Check that out. Yeah, as long as
Speaker 1: you're taking producer Mark with you, I'm okay with all
Speaker 1: of us. Yeah. I've never even been in Nebraska. Kfab
Speaker 1: in Omaha, Nebraska. Love to check out the k KFAB folks.
Speaker 1: They've been loyal Team buck listeners for years. We got
Speaker 1: so many We've got so many places. WHP and Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: Wa WHP has been with us since the beginning of
Speaker 1: this show. They were early buck Leavers and so that's
Speaker 1: old school Team Buck there as well. So you know
Speaker 1: we've got waeb Allantown Bethlehem, Pennsylvania another great station that.
Speaker 1: I mean, these are all places I want to go
Speaker 1: visit and promising to do it for a while, but
Speaker 1: you know, it's tough when the planes are all shut down.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna make it happen. I'm gonna make it happen. JJ.
Speaker 1: Those who believe in the sacredness of a government's right
Speaker 1: to supreme power is a belief that the government is
Speaker 1: a benevolent parent who will make you live in a warm,
Speaker 1: predict protected bubble with no cares or worries. They are
Speaker 1: perpetual children, deluding themselves that they're giving up their choices
Speaker 1: for the greater good, afraid of the consequences of people
Speaker 1: allowed to make their own choices. I don't think I
Speaker 1: have much to add to that. Thanks, JJ, team, have
Speaker 1: a fantastic weekend. Shields High