1 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: You are entering the freedom hunt. General Flynn walks free. 2 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: Arrests are made in the shooting of Ahmed Armory, Russia. 3 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: Documents released tell us that some pundits on TV weren't 4 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: telling the truth. Operation Gideon, the failed overthrow of Venezuela's 5 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: Nicholas Maduro. And we got guests like Glenn Jacobs, Jack Carr, 6 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: and Jesse Kelly coming up. This is the Buck Sexon Show, 7 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: where the mission or mission is to decode what really 8 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: matters with passionable intelligence. Make no mistake America, You're a 9 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: great American. Again, the Buck Sexon Show begins. He's a 10 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: great guy. Now, he was an innocent man. He is 11 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: a great gentleman. He was targeted by the Obama administration 12 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: and he was targeted in order to try and take 13 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: down a president. And what they've done is a disgrace. 14 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: And I hope a big price is going to be paid. 15 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: A big price should be paid. And there's never been 16 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: anything like this in the history of our country. What 17 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: they did, what the Obama administration did, is unprecedented, has 18 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 1: never happened, never happened. A thing like this has never 19 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: happened before the history of our country. Welcome to the 20 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: Buck Saccdent Show. Everyone celebrate a good moment here if 21 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: you will. After years of being dragged through the mud, bankrupted, ruined, 22 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: threatening him, threatening his family, the thuggery on display from 23 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: some of these FBI and DOJ folks was completely jaw dropping. 24 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: But after years of that, General Flynn is now walking 25 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: a freeman. Now, this is something we've been waiting for, 26 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: and we've talked about this countless times on the show, 27 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: and it really is the end of at least one 28 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: chapter here, which is the left's stop at nothing scorched 29 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: Earth war, using the weaponization of the intelligence community, a 30 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: completely and disgracefully complicit lib media, and every dirty trick 31 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: and tool the DNC could either push, pay for or 32 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: otherwise bring into being. With all of that going on, 33 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: they try to take down General Flynn. It looks like 34 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: they in the end were unsuccessful. Now, I would note 35 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: it's not really victory, not yet, or it's not really justice. Now. 36 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: This is a huge step toward justice, but before we 37 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: could really say that all has been set right in 38 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: this situation, what we would need to see is a 39 00:02:55,120 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: number of FBI former FBI now mostly I think all 40 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: of them FBI agents and perhaps some DJ folks in 41 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: handcuffs facing charges of their own. You might say what 42 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: charge would they be guilty of? And thought I would 43 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: just say official misuse of position. It's on the books. 44 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: There are all kinds of ways that when you work 45 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: in the federal government, if they want to go after you, 46 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: if you do something really bad, they can. Now would 47 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: it stick, would they go to prison? I don't know, 48 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: but we know what they did was disgusting and Comy 49 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: and McCabe and Yates and you name it, a whole 50 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: bunch of them struck in Paige. They should be facing 51 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: criminal charges for what they did. And you know, I'm 52 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: not somebody that's always running around yelling lock her up, 53 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: lock him up. I'm not. I'm not a person who 54 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: does that. This actually demands this. This deserves and demands 55 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: a response in the in the criminal courts. They ruined 56 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: a person. They used the power that they were entrusted 57 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: with by the American people to do so. And it 58 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: was a scheme. It was at a part of it hit. 59 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: It was done out of a bitterness against Donald Trump 60 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: and everybody around him. He wasn't supposed to win that 61 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen election, and he did, and they wanted to 62 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: get even That's what this was. This was their effort 63 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: to even the score. And with the memos that have 64 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: come out, we see from the FBI agents involved in 65 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 1: this clear entrapment. I mean, this is as as obvious 66 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: as it could be now. I mean, when you look 67 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: at the evidence that has come out here, we've had 68 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: to embrace really something of a shift. You know, a 69 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: journal's position on General Flynn's prosecution has long been a 70 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: test of intelligence and ethics, and countless lips have been 71 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: failing that for years. But now their position on General 72 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: Flynn is really a test of sanity, because believing that 73 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: Flynn's prosecution was legit given facts we now know, is 74 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: straight up insane, insane in the membrane. This is not 75 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: something that anybody could still justify. And as you see 76 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: the legions of experts and Democrat politicians appearing on MSNBC 77 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: and CNN crying over the Flynn decision, all the Justice 78 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: Department has lost its way. Just remember that they were 79 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: entirely wrong about Russia collusion and the Ukraine phone call 80 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: impeachment farce. So it's been a tough first Trump term 81 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: for them. Let's see how they do, God willing during 82 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: Trump term two, which we're still hoping will happen. And 83 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: I've got to say, between the Waco series on Netflix, 84 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: which I finished last night, and this dismissal by the 85 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: Department of Justice of the case against former National Security 86 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: Advisor Trump confidant and associate three star general, former DIA 87 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: Director General Michael Flynn, Between the WACOST series and the 88 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: dismissal of Flint case, it's not a good week when 89 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: it comes to public perception of the trustworthiness and judgment 90 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: of federal law enforcement. Not good stuff. But until the 91 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: FBI conspirators against Flynn are in prison, we have not 92 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: seen justice here. And that means McCabe and that means Komy. 93 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: They're very fond of using the tool of investigation as 94 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: a weapon against people they don't like. Well, that tool 95 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: can be used and should be used against them. They 96 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: should be subject to full investigation, and you know what, 97 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: they should be held accountable for this. If this was 98 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: not official misuse of position, I want to know what is. 99 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: If this is not a form of corruption of office. 100 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: Think of the charges that these individuals have brought against 101 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: people in the past. They set someone up to lie. 102 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: He didn't flynn, He didn't even lie. The FBI was 103 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: lying about what they were doing there. They completely abused 104 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: their discretion with the law under the usage of the 105 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: Logan Act as a pretext for this. I mean, the 106 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: whole thing was absolutely absurd. They should not be allowed 107 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: to get away with it. And this should really frighten 108 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: people that McCabe was acting FBI director and that Comey 109 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: was FBI director before him. Remember, Comey's not really a lawman. 110 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: He's a lawyer. He's a sanctimonious, self righteous lawyer. This 111 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: is not a guy who was you know, wrestling crack 112 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: dealers and you know, saving little girls from being kidnapped 113 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: across state lines and stuff. It's not the FBI g 114 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: man that you think of at all. Comy's a lawyer 115 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: and really a politician, and that he was able to, 116 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: i know, for multiple administrations of both parties, just keep 117 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: worming his way up the ranks speaks very poorly to 118 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: what is rewarded within the federal bureaucracy. But it's not 119 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: surprising to me at all. People ask me why I 120 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: left the federal bureaucracy usually tell him how many hours 121 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: do you have. How much time do you got. There's 122 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: a lot of corruption and rot, and there's a disincentive 123 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: for excellence, for free thinking, for ambition, but ambition within 124 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: the scope of the mission, not just you know, I'm 125 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: trying to advance myself up the ranks. I mean holding 126 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: oneself to a higher standard when it comes to achievement, 127 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: not when it comes to CYA and kissing up to 128 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,239 Speaker 1: the right people in positions of authority within the bureaucracy. 129 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: That's where COMI really excelled playing the system, and now 130 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: it's time we hold him accountable. You know Andie McCabe 131 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: who lied under oath and is not being charged, which 132 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: I think is a huge mistake from the DJ's perspective. 133 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: But here's what you have to remember with that if 134 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: he was charged, he would be charged in Washington, d C. 135 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 1: Do you think you'd be able to find a jury 136 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: of Andie McCabe's peers at this point in DC, which 137 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: is ninety seven percent anti Trump, Basically you think you'd 138 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: find a jury that would send any McCabe to prison 139 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: for lying. Nope, he's a hero of the resistance. So 140 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: DJ not pressing charges against him. I think as as 141 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: much as that is just a gut punch. I can 142 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: see that there's some prudence in it. It feels wrong, 143 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying it's right, but there may be prudence. 144 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: Annie McCabe and others. Of course, they're still going to 145 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: They're still going to be running around spreading their lies 146 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: and their intellectual filth anything in order to justify the 147 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: decisions they've already made. Attorney General Barr, who, as you know, 148 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, elevate any members of the administration or 149 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: politicians into being a hero status or anything. That there' 150 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: are all just people. They make mistakes that we always 151 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: got to remember that. We applaud them for their good 152 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: actions and we hope for their good care character, but 153 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: they also they will always disappoint you at some point. 154 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: That all said, ag Barr has been the single best 155 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: pick in the cabinet for this administration for the first 156 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: four years of Trump, in my estimation, the single strongest 157 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: member of Trump's cabinet, most the most important one, and 158 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: I think he has effectively saved the Trump presidency. I 159 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: really think that that's a fair thing to say, and 160 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: I know that's a big statement, but I think he 161 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: saved it because if you would have. I mean, just 162 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: look at what And he's a nice man, and he 163 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: is a well intentioned guy, and I know he likes 164 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: this radio show. But you know, Attorney General Sessions was 165 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: just not up for the street fight that he was 166 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: thrown into. He just wasn't up for it, which was 167 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: a problem. But here's Attorney General Barr, who is up 168 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: for it, who knows how this game is played, who 169 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: understands who the enemy really is. Here's what he says 170 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: about this decision to drop the charges against General Flynn, 171 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: which is a huge I mean, high five to all 172 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: of you listening to this show and all of us 173 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: who have been pushing publicly or even just among friends 174 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: for how this was an injustice and Flynn should be pardoned. 175 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: We were right and the Libs were wrong. Don't forget that. 176 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: Don't just pass beyond this moment without taking stock of it. 177 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: And here's the Attorney General saying, oh, yeah, we need 178 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: to have one standard of justice place six A crime 179 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: cannot be established here. They did not have a basis 180 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: for a counterintelligence investigation against Flynn at that stage. Does 181 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: the fact remain that he lied? Well, you know, people 182 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: sometimes plead to things that turn out not to be crimes. 183 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: What should Americans take away from your actions in the 184 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: Flynn case today? I want to make sure that we 185 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: restore confidence in the system. There's only one standard of justice. 186 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: You really know a lot about a person at this stage, 187 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: if they've been following this issue and if they're a 188 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: public voice on it. If they double down now and say, oh, 189 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: it's the corrupt Justice Department. I mean people who are 190 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: truly just morons. And there's a lot of them out there. 191 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 1: Was at the Law the law Fair Blog or one 192 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: of those sites, one of these ridiculous, these ridiculous websites 193 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: that has legal experts. They're all, Oh, this is a 194 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: terrible day for the Justice Department. What are they now 195 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: saying that we should have the FBI go after people 196 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: for violations of a Logan Act? The Logan Act is 197 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: so broad, so vague, and so clearly unconstitutional. It hasn't 198 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: been used in one hundred and seventy years or so. 199 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: But we still should Yeah, we still should go with it. 200 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: Come on, this is absurd, But they cling to this fiction. 201 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: They cling to it. Now, before I get into some 202 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: of their truly pathetic attempts to defend this the meaning 203 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: to defend the media's position here. I just want to 204 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 1: note one of the things I'm most proud of here 205 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: on the show is that we've for years now, on 206 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: all these issues of Usha collusion everything else. I've always 207 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: been open to all the new facts and data that 208 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: come in, and I have never had to go on 209 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: air on this show and say, wow, I really missed 210 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: that one. Sorry, guys, wrong on this one. Oh they 211 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 1: really got him. Never happened. You've been supporting me, You've 212 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: agreed with me. We have been right on the injustice 213 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: done to General Flynn for years. I have publicly advocated 214 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: all the way up the chain as much as I 215 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: can for a pardon for him. Now it looks like 216 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: that is no longer necessary, thank Heavens. But it's a 217 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: tough situation out there in the country, and I know 218 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: we've been through a lot of gloom and doom. Take 219 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: a moment, my friends. Justice it's a wonderful It's a 220 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: delicious thing when it happens, and we're close to it 221 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: now with Flynn. We're not quite there yet. But this 222 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: was a big win and we were on the right 223 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: side of it, and people that looked down their noses 224 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: at you. People in the media or maybe even in 225 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: your day to day life who think you're crazy because 226 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: you weren't calling a decorating veteran combat hero who wanted 227 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: to serve his country in the Trump administration like General Flynn, 228 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: because you wouldn't call him a traitor. You were simple, 229 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: You were a rube. You didn't know anything, You didn't 230 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: know any better. Yeah, you were right. I was right. 231 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: They were wrong. Who are the rubes? Now, Libs, you're 232 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: in the freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. 233 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: It's a pretty dark place on social media. The very 234 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: first combat after the story broke that I saw on 235 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: Twitter was Prodin If you're listening, high five year asset. 236 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: And there are Russian flags and Russian memes popping up. 237 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: And now we see Bill Barr really just doing Donald 238 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: Trump's dirty work. Now he has in his back pocket 239 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: a little age who saw to it to let Flenn go. 240 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: It is I think breathtaking dishonesty from the Justice Department. 241 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: This is the collapse of the Justice Department. Now, Katiel, 242 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: you caught my breath with the collapse of the Justice Department. 243 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: This is a case where the fix was in the 244 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: fix is in not good for the rule of law, 245 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: it's not good for morale, and it's not a fair outcome. 246 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: This is an absolute injustice. Now, don't not worry anyone 247 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: who cares about the rule of law. Mike Flynn's lawyers 248 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: have been engaged in a smear campaign. This is a 249 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: political and incredibly destructive thing to the rule of law. 250 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: It's all heading towards the president wiping the Muller investigation 251 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: out of the history books, at least as far as 252 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: criminal conviction. Oh my, just just bathe in the media 253 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: lib tears for a moment. Oh, it's destroying the dear Jay. 254 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: That's a credit to NewsBusters who pulled together that montage. 255 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: Is a great montage that they did. NewsBusters says some 256 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: really good stuff. But I gotta say, I gotta say, 257 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: what are they even How are they even making this argument? 258 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: They never should. It's not it's not possible to tell 259 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: a material lie about a non material investigation because the 260 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: investigation had no predicate. What do these idiots not understand 261 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: If someone in the FBI walks up to me and says, hey, 262 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: have you ever cheated on your wife? I mean I'm 263 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: not married, so this would be easy. But but but you know, 264 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: have you ever seen on your wife? And I said no, 265 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: and a turn out that's true. The FBI doesn't get 266 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: to throw me in prison for lying to the FBI. 267 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: Right if someone's dating an FBI officer, FBI agent rather 268 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: CI officer FBI agent. If someone's dating an FBI agent 269 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: and the FBI agent's like, hey, we're wor you last 270 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: night and he or she lies, you don't get to 271 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: throw that person in prison for lying to the FBI. 272 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: Do the idiot libs not really understand this. That's what 273 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: the attorney gents are front you. It's not really a 274 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: crime because there really was no investigation, there was no 275 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: basis for this. They were and it was clear from 276 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: the conversation that this was a setup. And that's not justice. 277 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: It was pretextual any normal judgement through the side. Let 278 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: me tell you, I'm a little a little concerned about 279 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: whether Sullivan will delay this. Judge Sullivan, he's crazy. He 280 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: sometimes gets it right, but he also talked about treason 281 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: and charges that Flynn wasn't even facing about a year ago, 282 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: and so he's had a Judge Emmett Sullivan has had 283 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: some outbursts in this case where he's just he's out 284 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: of it, he's nuts, but occasionally he gets stuff right. 285 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: He may slow this down a little bit, say, oh, 286 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if this can really Why is the 287 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: DJ backing office think about and the person who backed 288 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: off the case or rather made the final determination. They're 289 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: all saying, Oh, it's a Trump it's a Trump fix. 290 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: The guys were working at the DJ for ten years. 291 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: He's a career professional and it was his call and 292 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: he went to the Attorney General. He said, we we 293 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: can't continue with this. Who really believes that it would 294 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: be just what they want? They want Flynn to get 295 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: his zero jail time sentence anyway, that's what he was 296 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: going likely going to get out of this. What do 297 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: they really think was the victory here? Oh, this was 298 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: all about creating some basis for the figment of liberals 299 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: imagination that is Russia collusion and that there was all this, 300 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: all these Russian machinations behind the scenes. This was a 301 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: mass hysteria. Now this is all frightening, folks, because the 302 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: mass hysteria about Russia collusion was really a warning about 303 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: Now the mass hysteria about endless lockdown with COVID nineteen 304 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: that we're seeing, but I'll return to that later. Thanks 305 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: for listening to The bus Stson Show podcasts. 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The President debases himself and reduces himself 308 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: every day by you know, saying disgusting things about people, 309 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: and in this case, saying disgusting things about people who 310 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: dedicated their lives to protecting this country and their fellow citizens. 311 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: That's all horrendous, and we're unfortunately used to that by now. 312 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: But I would point out that General Flynn was not targeted. 313 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: He was properly investigated in a well predicated case, a 314 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: case that's been a case whose validity has been proven 315 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: not just by those of us who are involved, but 316 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: later by the Muller investigation and after that by the 317 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: Inspector General's investigation. He was investigated because we had reason 318 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: to believe he presented a threat to national security. I 319 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: still think that those things are worthy of investigation. Apparently 320 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: the President does not. What scum, What a disgusting, slimy 321 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: little disgrace this guy. This guy was acting director of 322 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: the FBI. I mean, he was involved in making decisions 323 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: about who's who was going to be a target of 324 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: the of the most powerful federal law enforcement agency in 325 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: the United States, one that will investigate cases that involve 326 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: any US persons or interests all over the world. I 327 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: mean this, This the FBI is a big deal. And 328 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: the fact that this guy was running it for months 329 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: and before him, James Comey was running it. They thought 330 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: they thought that General Flynn was a threat to national security. No, 331 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: they manufactured a belief that General Flynn was a threat 332 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: to national security. And you know, at some point someone 333 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: should just look this little, sleazy, dishonest scum McCabe in 334 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: the eyes and say, how blanking dare you? What have 335 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: you done for this country that General Michael Flynn hasn't done? 336 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: What do you think you think, because you know, you 337 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: spent a career, you know, mostly locking up guys for 338 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: you know, medicare fraud and running illegal drugs. You know, 339 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: you think you're a hero, but General Flynn is not. 340 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: You know, we're all going to give you the benefit 341 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: of the doubt and oh, you're a great guy, General Flynn. 342 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: He's oh, oh, because he was willing to work for 343 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: the Trump administration, which it's just it really is. And 344 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: I've tried not to go here, folks, And I know 345 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 1: this is a little bit of a digression, but there's 346 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: a part of me that just can't get over how 347 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: it is. And I know this COVID thing is horrible. 348 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: It's all just also so from a historical sense though, 349 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: so unfair that the Trump administration was just crushing it 350 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: and the Libs were in a panic because things were 351 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: so good and we've basically now got a real election 352 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: that's going to happen where it's going to be tight, 353 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: it's going to be close because of the equivalent of 354 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: you know, an asteroid hitting the planet. Really, I mean, 355 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: you know, what are you going to do? What are 356 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: you gonna do? But the first three years of Trump 357 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: were three of the Look, there were three of the 358 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: best years of my life. We weren't we weren't all 359 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: worried about terrorist attacks all all the time. We weren't 360 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: all wondering if you know, the future was going to 361 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: be brighter economically and if people could get jobs, and 362 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: we weren't starting wars we didn't need to. And you know, 363 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: but now the Libs get lucky, They get lucky with 364 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: the devastation and catastrophe that has hit the entire world. 365 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: But now now they can put forward, you know, Biden, 366 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 1: the El SID candidate. Just just put him on that 367 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: horse and send him off into battle, you know, prop 368 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: the body up and just send El Sid out there 369 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: and they'll run away. And great movie, by the way, 370 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: worth watching if you've never seen it. Real masterpiece for 371 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: what it is. But I go back here to McCabe. 372 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: I don't understand how anyone can take this guy even 373 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: a little bit seriously. I mean, Comey went to Twitter 374 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: that this was a dark day for the Department of Justice. 375 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: It's I think it's lost its way as what he 376 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: said about it. That was the quote on Twitter, James Coomy, 377 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: who remember these people that are that are still treated 378 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: as having all this credibility, credibility in the media. Their 379 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: own institution has found them to be dishonest, to have 380 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: broken rules, to have to have said a horrible example 381 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: for the rank and file of the FBI. And they 382 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: they're not. They're not apologetic at all, not a little bit. McCabe, 383 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: the same guy, the same smarmy little jerk. That's all. 384 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: This was a legitimate investigation and these people were they 385 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: were locking people up for years and years and years. 386 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: Do you think Comey and McCabe have good judgment about 387 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: who should go to prison? Now you would say, buck, 388 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: they're the prosecutors. Yeah, But the FBI is working hand 389 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: in glove with the prosecutors, and the FBI decides what 390 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: you know, you know, the most momentous decision is and 391 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: the whole apparatus of federal law enforcement who to investigate 392 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: and who not to That's the first step. And to 393 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: investigate is often to destroy, right if they want to 394 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: go after you, just the investigative process. Ask anybody who 395 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,239 Speaker 1: you know works at a financial firm or works at 396 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: a big company. All it takes is those dudes and 397 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: dudets in windbreakers that say FBI to come into your office. 398 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: Doesn't matter if if you two weeks later was whoop, 399 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: see we made a mistake. All it takes is FBI 400 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: to come in your office, photos on TV and in 401 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: the newspaper, and your company may be done and your 402 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: reputation may never recover. So the decision to investigate is 403 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: the first real assault. And then the decision to prosecute 404 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: is the decision to destroys. I've told you, Once you're 405 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,719 Speaker 1: prosecuted as they've done to Flynn. You're bankrupted, You're ruined. 406 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: Where does Flynn go to get his reputation back? I 407 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: really mean this too, General Flynn deserves to be back 408 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: in the Trump administration. This is not a joke. This 409 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: is not a troll. They robbed him of this, and 410 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: they they will say, oh, but you know he lied 411 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: to Mike Pence. No, now we find out he really 412 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: the FBI did. Didn't think he lied. He really just 413 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: didn't even remember. Because this was such an insignificant conversation 414 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: with Kizoyak, among all the different things that are going 415 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: on for an incoming national security advisor, He's basically saying, hey, man, 416 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: just chill, we're coming in. We'll handle things a little 417 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 1: bit differently. Over the course of a conversation. That's it. 418 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: Nothing illegal about that. It was the right thing to 419 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: tell him. What was wrong was Obama being mister tough 420 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: guy as he's leaving office, not going to be in 421 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: power anymore, and just kicking sand in the eyes of 422 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: the Russians. Why not because he cares about Russia, as 423 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: you remember, you know, I will thrown smooth, This will 424 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: Vladimia right. All of more or or more space toiment 425 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: over after the next election, after all, the people can't 426 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: actually judge me or further stuff I do. And then 427 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: Obama gets all tough when he's not going to be 428 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: president anymore, makes life harder for the incoming administration. And 429 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 1: we know that he got all fired up about Russia 430 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: because Hilary lost because of Russia interference. Hillary lost because 431 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: she's horrible. All right, we all know it. Oh but no, 432 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: McCabe still still sticks to the script here, still saying 433 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: the usual bull crap man, you know, team, Should I 434 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: do a version? Should I do a podcast where I 435 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: can actually use salty language. I've really been thinking about this. 436 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: Not for the kids, all right, we'd have an eighteen 437 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: plus warning on. I feel like it'd be fun to 438 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: do a like a you know, a Scotch and beer 439 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: version I can drink beer, but a Scotch and beer 440 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: version of this podcast for just the adults, where I 441 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: could just do the you know, we'd bring producer market too. 442 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: You want to hear salty language. The man is not shy. 443 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: But anyway, this McCabe then, I mean this just really, 444 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: this whole thing rubs me the wrong way, you know, 445 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: because I Also remember I had a few run ins 446 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: in mind day, relatively minor ones, but I had a 447 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: few run ins with the with the internal security apparatus 448 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: of the CIA, and they were they were Andy McCabe's, 449 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: and they were Jim Comey's, except much lower level. But 450 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: they were bad people. There were bad people who were 451 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: bitter and weren't really contributing to the mission. And all 452 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: they do is harass people and just you know, rifle 453 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: through your finances and sift through your underwear drawer and 454 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: see what they find. They're gross, not all of them, 455 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: pretty much all of them, but most of them. So 456 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: I understand this mentality, Oh, I'm just doing my job. Really, 457 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: you pick when to do your job and when not to. 458 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: So I don't ever say you're not just doing your 459 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: job or you're just doing your job. But here's a 460 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: cabe for you. Still still sticking with it. Play clip ten. 461 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: Conservative media has been obsessed with finding some indication of 462 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: a setup since this all started, you know, several years ago. 463 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: The simple fact is it absolutely did not happen. And 464 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: I think that those notes, if in fact they are 465 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: Bill presteps are, are indicative of that a team got 466 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: together and discussed the strategy, how do we approach this interview? 467 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: What sorts of things should we be thinking about. I 468 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: think those notes reflect one person's internal deliberations across the 469 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 1: range of options that might that might take place. We 470 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: strategize about interviews every day. When we sit down with 471 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: a terrorist, we think about will they admit to the 472 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: crimes that we think they have committed, or will they 473 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: lie about their known associations. If they lie, will that 474 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: give us something else, additional leverage that we can apply 475 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: in our investigation. That's exactly what happened with General. What 476 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: were they investigating? I mean, that's a real journalist and 477 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: pushed that, I'm sorry, what were you investigating? The Logan Act? 478 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: You really think that that's okay? I mean that's where 479 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: you have to drill in and look this bed eyed 480 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: little scum McCabe right in the face and say, I'm sorry, 481 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: what do you think you're doing? Tough guy, You're going 482 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: after a decorated veteran who's the incoming National security advisor 483 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: with the Logan Act. They had already been told they 484 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: were going to close the counterintelligence investigation on him. They 485 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: knew there was nothing And people bring up the thorough registration. 486 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: I mean, my friends, if you know enough about federal law, 487 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: there are there's a whole book written by Harvey A. 488 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: Silver Gate and it's called like two Felonies a Day 489 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: or five felonies a day, or whatever it is, and 490 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: it's just about all the laws you're breaking all the 491 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: time without even realizing it. But we assume, and we 492 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: shouldn't have to, but we assume that law enforcement's going 493 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: to prioritize and that you know, you have to actually 494 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: do something bad that hurts someone or something for there 495 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: to be consequences against You. Can't just be like, yeah, 496 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: there's this obscure law that no one's ever really heard 497 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: of and knows about, and you couldn't even define what 498 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: it is. But we're gonna get you with that one. 499 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: That's how McKay plays the game, straight out of Lavrenti 500 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: Barria of the Soviet Union would be very proud of 501 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: the mentality that Comy and McCabe have. These people are disgusting. 502 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: I would not shake James Comy's hand. I would not 503 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: show James Comy respect in person. I do not think 504 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: he is deserving of it. I think he's a bad 505 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: human being who needs to do a lot of penance. 506 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: Same thing with McCabe. This isn't just some partisan spat. 507 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: These are people who are undermining the very foundation of 508 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: our country's judicial system, of our law enforcement system. They 509 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,719 Speaker 1: are breaking faith with the American people with institutions that 510 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: can do any of us real harm. The greatest threat 511 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: to tyranny that we face is from our own institutions 512 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: turning against us and abandoning the constitution for partisan reasons, 513 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: thinking that they're making the country a better place in 514 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: the process. You know, everyone always thinks there's a good 515 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: reason for whatever they're doing. Doesn't make doesn't mean that 516 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: they're right. As we know, every evildoer will have some 517 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: explanation for why they're doing what they do. The fact 518 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: that Komian McCabe are likely to escape prison just goes 519 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: to show you that we still don't have any real 520 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: accountability in our system. But thank heavens, General Flynn is 521 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: not going to be and not going to have this 522 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: on his record. And if they're I've never seen before 523 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: what happens at this point because he hasn't been sentenced, 524 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: so I'm assuming that they'll they'll wipe this away. They're 525 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: dropping the case against him, but Trump should maybe if 526 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: Trump should just write a pardon for him anyway, just 527 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: to be just to be on the safe side, and 528 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: he should bring him back into the administration. He should 529 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: make him a senior advisor, senior advisor for intelligence coordination 530 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: with law enforcement. How about that. That'd be a great idea. 531 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: And have some of these deep state morons who thought 532 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: they knew better than the American people and wanted to 533 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: play games, they'd have to go in and brief Flynn 534 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: when he wants a briefing, answer his questions, write some 535 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: memos for him, Go get him some coffee. You're in 536 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,959 Speaker 1: the freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast 537 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: that iconic music screams summer and we all scream for 538 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: ice scream. But during a pandemic, social distanced the rule 539 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,719 Speaker 1: getting close to the ice cream man could mean getting 540 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: something else. Fact of life. Yet here's mister Freese, not 541 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:16,719 Speaker 1: his name, in his truck of treats, unmasked. Ungloved taking 542 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: cash for cones in the Northwest Bergs. That's when CBS 543 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: two Assignment editor Greg Kelly, father of two, dad on 544 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: a bike, said, wait a minute, he did. It's a 545 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: good idea to be doing this with the stay at 546 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: home owner the COVID nineteen. Eventually, our Greg got a 547 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: bit closer, tried to get an answer from mister Free 548 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: again not his name. Why are you trying to take children? 549 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: Do not worry a mask? Why are you trying? Are 550 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: you sick? Am? I sick? No? And I want to 551 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: say that not ship either. Why are they quarantining healthy people? Wall? 552 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: I hate this, I really do. I mean this CBS 553 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: to affiliate whatever. First of all, you know you're harassing 554 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: a small businessman here. The guy's trying to sell ice cream, 555 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: he's trying to make some money, trying to make a living, 556 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: and he's not wearing a mask. The chance of him 557 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: let's just understand this. It is overwhelmingly likely that he 558 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: does not in fact have COVID nineteen. I know we 559 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: can't say he definitely doesn't, but it is very likely 560 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: that he does not in fact have COVID nineteen. Okay, 561 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: so that means that he is at zero risk of 562 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: doing anything to anybody else. Even if in fact he 563 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: has COVID nineteen and he has a brief interaction with somebody, 564 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: you would think the chances of them getting COVID nineteen, 565 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: especially if it's children, which is what the whole thing is. Oh, 566 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: he might be infecting children. Children. It's difficult for them 567 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: to get this, and if they get it, it is 568 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: effectively changes nothing about their have no symptoms, their health 569 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: is not negatively impacted. But you know, instead of going 570 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: up to the gun and say, hey, man, could you 571 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: wear some gloves? There's a mask, you know that that's 572 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: the responsible way to do this. If you if you 573 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: want to make a thing of it to shame him, yes, 574 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: let's go out there. Let's be the smug journal morons 575 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: and go ahead and shame the business owner and put 576 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: him on TV. And you know, how dare he try 577 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: to feed his family, feed himself, put food on the table, 578 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: pay his rent. Awful? What a terrible man? Are we really? 579 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: How long do these morons think we're gonna have to 580 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: do We're gonna wear masklin gloves forever? Is that their plan? 581 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: Or until the panic the panic legions decide that it's 582 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: okay for us to start living our lives again. You know, 583 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but other people's unbelievable fear. I mean, we've 584 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: seen this with climate change too. You know, all the 585 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: world's gonna end. So do everything I say about everything, 586 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: You better recycle. You know, it was interesting here and 587 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: this is a small thing, but here in New York, 588 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: we had the plastic bag band going to effect in 589 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: New York State, in New York City right before this, 590 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: a few weeks before the pandemic really broke out. And 591 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: you know what's happened. Now, I'm getting plastic bags all 592 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: the time. Do you know why? Because when there's real problems, 593 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: people realize that's moronic. It's just annoying, stupid harassment. But 594 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: the baby seals and the plastic bags, and you know what, 595 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: are we gonna do it? No? It was dumb. It 596 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: was a dumb rule. It's not even better for the 597 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,479 Speaker 1: environment when you look at the impact on trees and 598 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: the fuel ratio for taking the heavier paper bags, and 599 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: also the disease risk of you know, people not being 600 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 1: able to people bringing rather these reusable bags which are 601 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: much more likely to have a whole bunch of yeah 602 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: that's right, bacteria, viruses and disease on them. But it 603 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: was stupid, and I told you it was stupid. And 604 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: when this stuff hit the fan, guess what everybody else realized? 605 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: It was in fact, dumb, it was not something we 606 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 1: should have been doing. Og Now we all figure it out. 607 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: There's a need to wear some protection in some places 608 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: at some times. We all understand that. And if you 609 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: really don't want the ice cream the ice cream man 610 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: and you say that, I mean, I will say this, 611 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: should he probably be wearing gloves irrespective of COVID nineteen. 612 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: I think the answer is yes. I think food service handling, 613 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: so so that I'm a little more like, you know, okay, 614 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: but you know, to say all you have to be 615 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 1: wearing a mask, we're gonna wear Are we really setting 616 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: up society to wear masks until there's a vaccine? Anytime 617 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: you go outside when outdoor transmission or a brief, brief 618 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: moment in contact with somebody unless they're breathing right on 619 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: your face, is very unlikely to spread this virus. Is 620 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: that what we're really accepting now? I've got to tell you, 621 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,439 Speaker 1: I really the virtue signaling from people on this. Look, 622 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: it's a complicated, difficult thing, and we're losing We're still 623 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 1: losing a lot of really losing a lot of seniors. 624 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: That's who we're losing as a result of this, which 625 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: is tragic and This is a tough time for the country, 626 00:36:53,680 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: but this has now become so thoroughly politicized, and it's 627 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: it's just wrong on every level. This is not about 628 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 1: left and right. It shouldn't be about pro Trump anti Trump, 629 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: but that's what the leftist turned it into. You know, 630 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: if you disagree with wearing a mask forever, you're probably 631 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: one of those gun total Second Amendment liking Constitution reading folks. Well, 632 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 1: at least they released Shelley Luther in Texas. That was 633 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: a victory for sanity, but there's still a lot of 634 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 1: crazy people out there and shaming small business owners for 635 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: trying to open. It's not cool. Thanks for listening to 636 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: The Bus Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, 637 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, 638 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: everybody to give us a little additional freedom perspective, a 639 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: focus on liberty at a time when the country's liberty 640 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: seems to be in tremendous peril. We are joined by 641 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: Glenn Jacobs. He is the mayor of Knox County, Tennessee. 642 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: Also familiar to many of you, I'm sure, as the 643 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:02,760 Speaker 1: WWE wrestler formerly known as Kane he joins us. Now, Glenn, 644 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 1: great to have you on, sir, Thanks Puck, I appreciate it. So, 645 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: my friend, what is good? First let's start with Tennessee 646 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 1: and then we'll take this nationwide. We're in the midst 647 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: of this lockdown. Still, some states are reopening a little bit. 648 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: I've read a little that Nashville has had some cases 649 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: and there's been you know, there's been a bit of 650 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: a scare there. But how are you guys doing statewide? 651 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: How has your governor been in this process? Telling me, 652 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: let's talk about how Tennessee's handling COVID, then we'll talk 653 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: about the national response. Sure, Tennessee did not go nearly 654 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: as far as many other states did with executive orders. 655 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: There was a safer at home ordered issued obey. It 656 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: wasn't like California and some other places where we see 657 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: really draconian enforcement. You know, some restaurants and bars were 658 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 1: closed and now they're back to living in capacity, and 659 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: some other businesses were closed. But overall, we didn't go 660 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,399 Speaker 1: nearly as far as other states. We're starting to move 661 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: in the other direction now, we're starting to open things 662 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,720 Speaker 1: back up, and we probably don't get as much press 663 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: as Saint Georgia did when when they did it, But 664 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 1: we're still that we're right there with them as far 665 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: as what we're doing, and compared to every pels, I 666 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: guess that's some pretty aggressive opening businesses up, and I 667 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 1: mean just allowing people to get back out. We're speaking 668 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: to Glenn Jacobs, he's the mayor of Knox County. Mayor Jacobs. Well, 669 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: the country, it seems to me, had this panic reaction 670 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 1: and it was based in and Look, there were a 671 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: couple of weeks there where I was like, well, I guess, 672 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: I mean, if we're really facing what they're saying, we're 673 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: facing in the way that they're telling us it's going 674 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: to happen. We don't seem to have a lot of choice. 675 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: But we've gone from fifteen days to stop the spread 676 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: to now fifty some odd days to stop the spread, 677 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: although there is some, as you said, some reopening in 678 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: some places. Have you been surprised by the speed and 679 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: the ease with which so many people seem to have 680 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 1: relieve or allowed the state to relieve them of their 681 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:10,320 Speaker 1: liberties in this situation. I really have, And it's really 682 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 1: it's disturbing because, as you said, it went from an 683 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,760 Speaker 1: idea of flattening the curse of the healthcare system wouldn't 684 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 1: be overloaded, which is something I think that we can 685 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,240 Speaker 1: all look at and say, Okay, that's reasonable, although again 686 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: I'm yeah, you know, I don't think that the government 687 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: should be mandating the people stay inside or mandating a 688 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,800 Speaker 1: lot of things that went on. But you can understand 689 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: for a short period of time, as we said in 690 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 1: fifteen days, to flatten the curve. Okay, Well then it 691 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: went to well actually now we can't. We can't go 692 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: back out, and we can't open businesses until there's a vaccine. 693 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 1: It's like, well, wait a second. You guys said one thing, 694 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: now you're saying something else, and you've gone you know, 695 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: if you actually read what like Neil Ferguson from the 696 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: Imperial College of London said with their report, which was 697 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: the one that caused everyone to completely freak out, which 698 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: was two point two million deaths in America, they said 699 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: that if you're going to do lockdown route that that 700 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: can be up to eighteen months. And I was going 701 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: on a any second, we there, we'll leave you in 702 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: a stone age. If we go on an eighteen month lockdown. 703 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 1: This is not possible, and even Fergus in his report 704 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: acknowledge that. And the thing is, too we have these models, 705 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: and the models keep on changing, and of course the 706 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: models are only as good as the data, and they 707 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: don't predict the future. I don't think that they ever 708 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: really should have been used for public policy purposes. They 709 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,839 Speaker 1: should have been used for epidemiological purposes, and look at 710 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: the spread, and certainly policymakers maybe should have taken them 711 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 1: into account. But that became the driving force behind all 712 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 1: these policy decisions. And then the problem with that buck 713 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: is as a as an elected official, I have to 714 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: look at this big picture, you know, this big puzzle 715 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 1: of the community's overall well being in health, and certainly 716 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: displays into that you also have to think about the 717 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: economic health with the community. And you know, for the 718 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: folks out there that think, well, you're putting profits of people, know, 719 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: if you don't have a healthy economy, you're not going 720 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: to have healthy people. And what we've done now is 721 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: we've concentrated so much on the public health aspect that 722 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: we've forgotten about everything else. And then we don't even 723 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: know if if this lockdown strategy is going to work. 724 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: When you look at these statistics from various countries and 725 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: compare those that we don't know that it actually works. 726 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 1: And then we don't know what the arc of the 727 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: disease looks like because there's things like her immunity. And 728 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 1: if you have a lockdown and people go back out, 729 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 1: well they are you going to have a second way? 730 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: There's a lot of an answer questions and we've just 731 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: said okay, and it's fine, this government do whatever you 732 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: need to do protect us, and we will trust you. 733 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: And that's a very dangerous throat to beyond in history 734 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,399 Speaker 1: show since that we're speaking Glenn Jacobs, he's the mayor 735 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: of Knox County, Tennessee. Mayor Jacobs. The debt is also 736 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 1: something that I mean, at least when I came into 737 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: conservative media about a decade a decade ago, there was 738 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,760 Speaker 1: a lot of concern about the debt. Well, it's gotten 739 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: a lot worse since and what we see going on 740 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 1: now is truly unprecedented. You're going to end up with, 741 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: I mean, no one really knows right now, but trillions 742 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: of dollars of additional spending. And also, I think, and 743 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 1: this is the part of this that people haven't factored 744 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,760 Speaker 1: in trillions of dollars less in tax receipts and revenue 745 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: across the board too, right, So we're going to be 746 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: spending a whole lot more money as a government, and 747 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: the government at the end of the year is going 748 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 1: to be taking in a whole lot less money. So 749 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: it's going to be a gulf that's wider than people 750 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: even recognize. How do you see that pressure playing out 751 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 1: in the economy And how worried are you about the 752 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: prospect of just the United States being at in the 753 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: neighborhood of thirty trillion dollars in debt by the end 754 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,399 Speaker 1: of this year, which some are saying is possible. I'm 755 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: very worried about that. In fact, I'm much more worried 756 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,720 Speaker 1: about that than I am. The direct impact of COVID nineteen. 757 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen is a serious of public health fish and 758 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 1: it's something certainly that needed to be addressed. But what's 759 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: happened now with the way that we react did is 760 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: we've caused an economic collapse that's gonna end up bringing 761 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,800 Speaker 1: in a monetary and physical crisis which is going to 762 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: cause political upheap. It at some point, as you said, 763 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: we're going to come out of this for thirty trillion 764 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: dollars from debt. In two thousand and eight when we 765 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 1: had the Great Recession, country had about ten trillion dollars 766 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 1: from debt. And you look at what was done then, 767 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,839 Speaker 1: and this was a huge event. It pales in comparison 768 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: to what's going on right now as far as the 769 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 1: amount of money of the thorough government spending. We should 770 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: all keep in mind the federal government doesn't happen money. 771 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: The Federal Reserve can print money, and that's what's happening 772 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,720 Speaker 1: right now, and that's going to have the dilitaries effect 773 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 1: on the dollar purchasing power dollar and the strength of 774 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 1: the dollar. Currently we're in Bretton Woods two is the 775 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 1: world monetary system. I think we can all assume at 776 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: this point in Bretton Wood too is debt and something 777 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 1: else is going to replace that. None of us knows 778 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 1: what that is, but that's what I see, is I 779 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:03,800 Speaker 1: see in the end the the monetary situation, the fiscal situation. Currently, 780 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,360 Speaker 1: the federal government pays about four hundred billion dollars a 781 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 1: year in debt service on twenty three, twenty four twenty 782 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,800 Speaker 1: dollars in debt. That's going to grow up even higher. 783 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,839 Speaker 1: They're trying to offset a deflationary spiral by throwing all 784 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 1: this money into the economy. That's going to take a 785 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: lot for that to happen because people just starting to 786 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 1: spend money that the money circulation and velocity of money 787 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,359 Speaker 1: is very low, so inflation is going to be very low, 788 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 1: and economists and the Fed, they're just going to keep 789 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,320 Speaker 1: on saying, throw more money, throw more money, throw more money. 790 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,400 Speaker 1: So you actually have an inflationary bomb in the economy. 791 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 1: And when things start picking back up, and that inflation 792 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: starts picking back up because of the huge amount of 793 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 1: debt service that the federal government has to pay, they're 794 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: not going to be older raisins strates like they have 795 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,959 Speaker 1: in the past. So a long term, over the next 796 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: I don't know how many years, however long it takes, 797 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 1: the US, unfortunately, is going to be in a very 798 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: precarious situation. Speaking in Glenn Jacobs, mayor of Knox County 799 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,399 Speaker 1: towny See and may or to that end, I want 800 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 1: to know what the picture is for small businesses. I mean, 801 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: your county has hundreds of thousands of residents, so obviously 802 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,439 Speaker 1: a lot of businesses that are shut down right now 803 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 1: must be struggling mightily. I know the Paycheck Protection Program. 804 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 1: We had Monica Crowley from Treasury on my show earlier 805 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,360 Speaker 1: in the week on one of my shows earlier in 806 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: the week talking about what PPP has done, but even 807 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 1: she admitted, look, it's the government program. It's not perfect, 808 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 1: but it's helping. But what are you hearing from small 809 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 1: business owners and what are your concerns about the ability 810 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,839 Speaker 1: of both businesses currently shutter to reopen and people who 811 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,800 Speaker 1: have lost as we know what twenty some odd million 812 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 1: now have officially lost jobs, probably more like thirty million overall. 813 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,280 Speaker 1: But of the people who have lost jobs in your state, 814 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 1: that they'll be able to get those jobs back, that's 815 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,919 Speaker 1: a huge issue. Small businesses could be the ones most 816 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 1: by this. The large businesses, the national chains, they have 817 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 1: the revenue of the capital to survive something like this. 818 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 1: Small businesses don't. And even now, what we're doing in 819 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: Knos County, in the state of Tennessee, we have a 820 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: gradual RePhase I'm sorry, gradual phased opening plan, which is 821 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 1: of course better than nothing, but still now businesses have 822 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: had in some cases no revenue for a month or 823 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,240 Speaker 1: six weeks, and now they're going to get like maybe half, 824 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: maybe twenty five percent of their normal revenue. Businesses can't 825 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 1: survive like that. And again, especially especially the small businesses, 826 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 1: which are going to be hard the worst, and those 827 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 1: are the backbone of our economy. They're the backbone of 828 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 1: our local economy, they're the backbone of the national economy. 829 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,799 Speaker 1: And then if you think about people coming back to work, 830 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 1: an issue with now the federal government trying to help 831 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 1: people is the fact that in some cases they're making 832 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 1: more money on unemployment than an employer can afford to 833 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 1: pay them. So they're going to want to stay on 834 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 1: that and rightfully so I don't blame them for as 835 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 1: long as they can, which is going to cause another 836 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: impact in the labor markets. So as you point out, 837 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 1: it's the big guys for the most part, I'm not 838 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 1: going to say to be okay, we've seen some bankruptcies 839 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 1: and big companies, but they're much more prepared and much 840 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 1: more equipped to whether this than the small businesses. And 841 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,839 Speaker 1: of course the small businesses that that's our neighbors. It's 842 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 1: the mom and pop shops that many to go to 843 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: and support and the people that are involved in our community, 844 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 1: and it's it's really a travesty. One of my messages 845 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 1: is always, to the extent that you can, and to 846 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,880 Speaker 1: the extent that you're comfortable. Please support your local small 847 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 1: business if you want, if you want to see them. 848 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 1: After all this is over and there's own business. It's 849 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 1: up to us right now to do the most that 850 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,319 Speaker 1: we can to help support them. Mayor Glenn Jacobs, thanks 851 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 1: so much, sir. I'll be out in Tennessee soon. Hopefully 852 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:49,880 Speaker 1: you guys will all be open. We can get a 853 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 1: beer a little bit up please, Buck, thank you, you 854 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:58,839 Speaker 1: take care. You're in the Freedom Hunt. This is the 855 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show podcast. Pandemics have been in the world before, 856 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 1: and people survived them. We of course, could have survived 857 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 1: this much better if idiot had done the right thing 858 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,839 Speaker 1: and listened and heated all the warnings. There were many, 859 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 1: many warnings and we are all paying for it now. 860 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: It would have been bad, maybe in some ways, but 861 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,360 Speaker 1: never like this. Hey, Robert de Niro thinks that it 862 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,800 Speaker 1: would have been bad, but it wouldn't have been that bad. 863 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 1: But you know the idiot who doesn't like and you know, hey, 864 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,799 Speaker 1: it's he doesn't like Trump. Why do we have to 865 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,359 Speaker 1: hear from Robert DeNiro about pandemic response. I mean early, 866 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, does he know anything other than how 867 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 1: to play basically the same character in a bunch of granted, 868 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,240 Speaker 1: some very watchable movies. You know, we give credit words 869 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 1: due here. Casino actually a producer. Mark, Is Casino a 870 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,359 Speaker 1: better movie or good Fellows a better movie? No, that's 871 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,879 Speaker 1: that's a good Fellows. Yeah, I think I think good 872 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,320 Speaker 1: Fellows is the right choice there. Casino is a little 873 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,799 Speaker 1: bit soul crushing, you know, it's I mean not that 874 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,799 Speaker 1: there's not some of that and good Fellows too, but 875 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 1: Casino is, like it gets kind of just too depressing 876 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 1: toward the end. I found, you know, it's really you 877 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,440 Speaker 1: kind of you end up watching the movie. You're just like, oh, 878 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 1: humanity is doomed. This is bad. But there's some very 879 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 1: very watchable movies, very good things. I actually think that 880 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 1: Meet the Parents is one of his better movies. You know, 881 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:31,359 Speaker 1: Little Jigsy, Little Jigsy, little little milking the cat Jigsy. Yeah, 882 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,239 Speaker 1: I love those movies. That's a crazy really that's a 883 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 1: great movie to me. The funniest parts of Meet the 884 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 1: Parents were the Jigsy the cat thing, and then also 885 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 1: because I feel like we've all been there before, where 886 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,279 Speaker 1: we're forced to be in some kind of a competitive 887 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 1: environment where you don't really want to compete, but like 888 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,320 Speaker 1: now you're now people are like, well, why aren't you 889 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:53,840 Speaker 1: better at this? And then you kind of turn it 890 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 1: up a little bit and now you're the guy who's trying. 891 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,359 Speaker 1: You know, it's like you're playing flag football with someone 892 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 1: else's family and you're getting and thrown in the bushes, 893 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you try kind of hard, 894 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 1: and you know, somebody gets a bloody nose from your 895 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,839 Speaker 1: elbow and the lover look's wrong with you. We've all 896 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 1: been there before. I think that it's if you it's 897 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:12,920 Speaker 1: co ed sports too. If you're ever in a co 898 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 1: ed sports environment wherevere's kind of like drinking beer and 899 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,360 Speaker 1: having fun and playing volleyball and then you like start 900 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,239 Speaker 1: missing anyway, that's what happens. To meet the parent the 901 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,479 Speaker 1: volleyball seat in the pool is amazing. I mean, that's 902 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 1: that's one for the ages. I thought, what's your favorite scene, producer, 903 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,399 Speaker 1: Mark oh Man, that's hard. I mean, I think I'm 904 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,799 Speaker 1: gonna say from Meet the Fockers, when Jinxi ends up 905 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 1: in the toilet in the RV because the dog shoved 906 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 1: him in the toilet. I haven't even seen Meet the Fock. 907 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,239 Speaker 1: Oh those are. It's a great continuation. That's why I 908 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 1: say it's the meat Meet the Parents series, because there's 909 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:46,759 Speaker 1: a couple of them. I mean, I will. I think 910 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 1: Meet the Parents is the best thing that Ben Stiller 911 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 1: ever did, other than There's Something About Mary, which is 912 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,280 Speaker 1: an amazing movie to go back and watch, just because 913 00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 1: it's really a time capsule of how much society has 914 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 1: changed and what it considers to be acceptable for entertainment purposes. 915 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 1: There is so much in There's Something About Mary you 916 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 1: would never be able to get away with now. I 917 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: feel like you can say that about almost every older 918 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 1: television show from like the nineties, early two thousands. Oh, 919 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,359 Speaker 1: Friends has a lot of Friends, makes a lot of 920 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 1: LGBTQ community kind of jokes and fat jokes, And there's 921 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff even in Friends, which you think 922 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 1: is the most saccharine, corporate friendly, sponsor friendly show imaginable. 923 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,160 Speaker 1: Oh no, you there's a lot of stuff. There have 924 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 1: actually been articles written by people at Vox and other 925 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,319 Speaker 1: you know, beta mail establishments about how Friends is. You know, 926 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 1: we shouldn't be celebrating it anymore. You know, I was 927 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 1: watching Disney with the Snow Princess. We were watching the 928 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 1: Aristocrats and as one does. So now you guys all 929 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:55,839 Speaker 1: know while I've been in a Disney kick too, it's 930 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 1: because Snow Princess and she likes to watch Disney suns. 931 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,800 Speaker 1: She likes Disney films. So we watched Lion King recently. 932 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 1: Lion King's great. Still moves really well too, It's still great, yeah, 933 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 1: still grow, it's great. Oh, the old Disney stuff is fantastic. 934 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,239 Speaker 1: The newer Disney stuff is not really as good. But 935 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 1: you know, we're watching the even the Auristic Cats, and 936 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 1: they had I've never seen this warning before. Disney puts 937 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 1: up in the you know, like when they tell you 938 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 1: that in a movie that there's you know, nuderdy strong 939 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: language whatever. They had a warning about outdated cultural stereotypes 940 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 1: that now you can't have outdated cultural stereotypes in movies 941 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,719 Speaker 1: or you'll get in trouble. So, for example, the Siamese 942 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,799 Speaker 1: cats in a Lady in the Tramp they've I think 943 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,719 Speaker 1: they cut that out of some versions of it. Now, Um, 944 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,759 Speaker 1: you can't do that. So I'm just saying you know, 945 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,879 Speaker 1: they're even Disney, even the old Disney movies you can't 946 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 1: get away with. And a lot of the old cartoons. 947 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of the old cartoons. I think 948 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 1: people would have a problem with now too. But anyway, 949 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 1: all right, so let's get back into the mix here 950 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 1: on this. I just I think it's funny. They know 951 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,319 Speaker 1: he is he from Roberts de Needle. What do you 952 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 1: think about the pandemic? Robert? You know, I think if 953 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,320 Speaker 1: the idiot wasn't running things zoo, you know, that's great, 954 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,759 Speaker 1: that's really really so very helpful. Oh and they also 955 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 1: wanted to hear from from al Gore. The fact that 956 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 1: they almost made this guy presid the United States is appalling, 957 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,240 Speaker 1: and they really tried. He came very close. Play fourteen 958 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:25,880 Speaker 1: and to take your medical advice from a right wing 959 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 1: talk show host who brings some questionable medical advice into 960 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,400 Speaker 1: the Oval office instead of listening to the Centers for 961 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 1: Disease Control. And as was said earlier, where is the 962 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,759 Speaker 1: Centers for Disease Control? They're the ones that shouldn't be 963 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,839 Speaker 1: having these daily briefings. Where is the FDA? Why? Why 964 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,320 Speaker 1: were they bullied into opening the floodgates? And letting all 965 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 1: of these crummy tests out there that we now know 966 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,279 Speaker 1: most of them don't work. This is a disgrace. The 967 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 1: entire handling of this matter has been an uttering, complete disgrace. 968 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:07,719 Speaker 1: Was a CDC bullied into putting the test? No you 969 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,680 Speaker 1: more on? The CDC put the tests out because they're 970 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,960 Speaker 1: an incompetent federal organization that gets billions of dollars, usually 971 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,760 Speaker 1: to tell people to make sure their kids eat enough vitamins. 972 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,880 Speaker 1: The CDC does a lot of worthless stuff. All I 973 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,480 Speaker 1: do is look do Google search on CDC guidance and 974 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 1: things they're doing. Children should get, you know, more more 975 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:29,880 Speaker 1: fruits and veggies in their diet every day. I mean, 976 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 1: that's what the CDC is often spending its time doing. 977 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:36,080 Speaker 1: It certainly not preparing for pandemic disease response. They were 978 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,480 Speaker 1: caught caught napping and then some on this one. But 979 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:43,120 Speaker 1: thanks for hearing from Al Gore. Oh my gosh, Democrats 980 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,880 Speaker 1: Al Gore, Joe Biden carry people they put forward to 981 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 1: be president. So many of them are just clownish losers. 982 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:55,080 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Buss and Show podcasts. Remember 983 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,920 Speaker 1: to subscribe on Apple podcasts. The iHeartRadio app or wherever 984 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:04,360 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. Alright, team, I mentioned Operation Gideon, 985 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 1: the failed overthrow of Venezuelan dictator Nicholas Maduro at the 986 00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,279 Speaker 1: top of the show. This is a real thing that 987 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,000 Speaker 1: happened that people are not paying very much attention to, 988 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:17,120 Speaker 1: and involve some former US Special operators, a whole bunch 989 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 1: of money, some shady activists, and other folks behind the scenes. 990 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,880 Speaker 1: What happened here? What went wrong? How could this have 991 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 1: been done properly? We've got our friend Jack Carr to 992 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,000 Speaker 1: answer all this now. He's a former Navy seal and 993 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:35,200 Speaker 1: best selling author of the the latest book in his 994 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,480 Speaker 1: terminalist series, Savage Son, which Jack I am listening to 995 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,480 Speaker 1: on audiobook, by the way, true story, very much enjoying it. 996 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 1: Although the turncoach CIA analysts. You know, I hope there's 997 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,400 Speaker 1: some good CI analysts in there too, Like, you know, 998 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 1: some of the nerds are nice, say some of the 999 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,520 Speaker 1: nerds are patriots. Damn it, this is true. This is true. 1000 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,040 Speaker 1: They're they're easy to pick on, kind of like politicians. 1001 00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,279 Speaker 1: And you know people in NOI NOE picks on more 1002 00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:01,840 Speaker 1: than I do. Well, when you know them, then you 1003 00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:03,799 Speaker 1: really know what's going on anyway, congrats on all the 1004 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,320 Speaker 1: success of the book. And I know I saw Chris 1005 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,440 Speaker 1: Pratt himself with the with the shout out for the 1006 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,600 Speaker 1: Amazon series, so the word is out there. Now you're 1007 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:15,359 Speaker 1: gonna have the Jack car series on Amazon, Savage Son, 1008 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,440 Speaker 1: True Believer, all the Terminal List books. So all right, 1009 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 1: fantastic on that. And now let's drill down now that 1010 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 1: everyone who hasn't already heard knows they need to buy 1011 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,040 Speaker 1: or download your book on audio. Now we can talk 1012 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 1: about what went down here man in Venezuela. You got 1013 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 1: some former US Special Operators, guys with real skill sets 1014 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,960 Speaker 1: and real combat experience. They did, what I mean, give 1015 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 1: us the overview. Oh my goodness, so diving into this thing, 1016 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,400 Speaker 1: just what a mess from start to finish, and not 1017 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,320 Speaker 1: even start to finish, but before they'll lead up as 1018 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 1: far as not specific to this operation, but just their 1019 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 1: their mindset in doing anything, it seems. So you have 1020 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,120 Speaker 1: this guy Jordan Gudreau. I don't know if I'm saying 1021 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,480 Speaker 1: that name correctly, originally from Canada, early served in the 1022 00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,400 Speaker 1: US R and B from two thousand and one to 1023 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,680 Speaker 1: twenty six. Team. And when someone gets out with a 1024 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 1: couple of years left. It's always a bit of a 1025 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,640 Speaker 1: red flag, so I don't know what's going on there exactly, 1026 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 1: but at some point I think he went to eighteen 1027 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,920 Speaker 1: Delta training with Army Special Forces, so for those listening, 1028 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 1: that's a medic training, very well trained guys, and then 1029 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,400 Speaker 1: got out and did some private contracting in Puerto Rico. 1030 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,960 Speaker 1: After Hurricane Maria, which a lot of people I know 1031 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,760 Speaker 1: did as well, he went down there to help, and 1032 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 1: then after the Parkland shooting in Florida, wanted to get 1033 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,840 Speaker 1: into school security side of the house and put together 1034 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 1: our plan to embed special operators in schools around the country. 1035 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,280 Speaker 1: That didn't really take off, and then he started this 1036 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 1: thing called Silver Corp, which looks like a want to 1037 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,720 Speaker 1: be blackwater with some pictures on there and some very 1038 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,440 Speaker 1: strange video of him at a Trump rally pretending to 1039 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,800 Speaker 1: be a Secret Service agent if I'm not mistaken, with 1040 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,240 Speaker 1: the earpiece in and had somebody there taking the video 1041 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,080 Speaker 1: that then went up on site. That didn't say he 1042 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,800 Speaker 1: was really protecting Trump, but it certainly gave the impression 1043 00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,400 Speaker 1: that he was protecting the president in an official capacity. 1044 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,400 Speaker 1: And then into February twenty nineteen, he went down to 1045 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,520 Speaker 1: Columbia and worked security at a live aid concert to 1046 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:12,840 Speaker 1: raise money for the opposition and for the Venezuela opposition 1047 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,400 Speaker 1: the party, and apparently that's where this plan was hatched 1048 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,920 Speaker 1: to put together a band of mercenaries and deserters from 1049 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 1: the Venezuelan army and do some sort of an invasion 1050 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:28,439 Speaker 1: of Venezuela and abduct the current president and fly him off. 1051 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:32,120 Speaker 1: Two parts unknown, which is just you mentioned the live 1052 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,200 Speaker 1: aid concert. This guy's actually he's doing security now. He 1053 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,000 Speaker 1: was an SF guy, so and as you said, he 1054 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 1: was a medic. I mean, he had the skill set. 1055 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 1: So he's not some weekend warrior soldier and a fortune 1056 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,240 Speaker 1: guy who's like been to a you know, a cig 1057 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 1: training academy thing for two days and now thinks that 1058 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 1: he understands these things, right. Not that those academies aren't great, 1059 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:50,480 Speaker 1: they are, but you know what I mean. I mean, 1060 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:55,600 Speaker 1: he actually served. He goes to do the security for 1061 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,280 Speaker 1: Richard Branson at a live aid concert and basically he's 1062 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 1: at this concert and they're talking to people and it's like, 1063 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,880 Speaker 1: let's do our own version of the Bay of Pigs, 1064 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,560 Speaker 1: except in Venezuela, not Cuba. We're going to do a 1065 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:13,000 Speaker 1: snatching grab with Nicholas Maduro, who does have a fifteen 1066 01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,120 Speaker 1: million dollars US bounty on his head, so this is, 1067 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:20,480 Speaker 1: I mean, there's real cash here, and also has been 1068 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,800 Speaker 1: oppressing his people, and as we all know, Venezuelas just 1069 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 1: devolved into anarchy, chaos, starvation, and just a complete mess. 1070 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,920 Speaker 1: But the guy certainly understands security because he understands that 1071 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,200 Speaker 1: his rule is with an iron fist and not with 1072 01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,680 Speaker 1: the consent of the people anymore. So then what happens 1073 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,120 Speaker 1: after so they hatch the plan, then what goes down. 1074 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 1: So I think there's a few months there, we're not 1075 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,640 Speaker 1: exactly sure what's happening. But by late summer, by August, 1076 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 1: he's now trying to get some investors. So instead of 1077 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,760 Speaker 1: that fifteen million after the fact from the US government 1078 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,200 Speaker 1: that you may or may not get depending on what happens, 1079 01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,160 Speaker 1: he's looking for some upfront money two hundred and thirteen 1080 01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:01,360 Speaker 1: million dollars from investors in this country. And the craft 1081 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,560 Speaker 1: one of the crafts airs, was not really involved, but 1082 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,760 Speaker 1: at least listened to the pitch, from what my understanding is, 1083 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:12,360 Speaker 1: and then didn't support it apparently. But this guy, Jordan 1084 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 1: Gudreau goes ahead and somehow makes his way down to 1085 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 1: Columbia and starts working with these deserters. And another fascinating 1086 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 1: character is a former Venezuelan general who is now in 1087 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:29,040 Speaker 1: custody in New York awaiting trial or selling service to 1088 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:33,520 Speaker 1: air missiles for cocaine to some of these deserted groups 1089 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,080 Speaker 1: in Columbia. It's just it's a crazy cast of characters 1090 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,360 Speaker 1: that I'm sure we'll be made into some sort of 1091 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 1: a movie at some point. A long time they said 1092 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,480 Speaker 1: that the JW marryout where these guys all met up 1093 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:49,280 Speaker 1: initially in Bogata, Columbia, was described by the Associated Press 1094 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:53,240 Speaker 1: as a center of intrigue among Venezuelan exiles. But for 1095 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:57,080 Speaker 1: this occasion where Goudreau met with these guys, conference rooms 1096 01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 1: will reserved for one participant, described as the Star Wars 1097 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:06,760 Speaker 1: Summit of Anti Maduro Goofballs. Military deservers include an accused 1098 01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:13,880 Speaker 1: of drug trafficking, shady financiers, and former Maduro officials seeking redemption. Wow. Oh, 1099 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 1: it's so great. You almost can't make it up. It's 1100 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,520 Speaker 1: just it's so great. I mean, it didn't end so 1101 01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:22,080 Speaker 1: poorly for everybody. It would almost be comical like Delta 1102 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,200 Speaker 1: for Step movie or something like that, But it did 1103 01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,720 Speaker 1: actually remind me of the beginning of an invasion USA 1104 01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,200 Speaker 1: for those who saw that in the mid eighties, where 1105 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,280 Speaker 1: they have an invasion of this country by a band 1106 01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,840 Speaker 1: of Chuck Norris destroys the ball. It's great, but that's 1107 01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,400 Speaker 1: what I thought of when I saw the video. There's 1108 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,040 Speaker 1: a lot of video out there, you can go online 1109 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,040 Speaker 1: and check it out. But apparently there were two landing 1110 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 1: sites in Venezuela, one where eight people were killed in 1111 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,960 Speaker 1: the majority of the roam. So this is execution out 1112 01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:50,640 Speaker 1: This is the execution phase of the plan what they 1113 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,840 Speaker 1: try to do. Sorry, keep going, no, but even before that, 1114 01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:55,960 Speaker 1: we should probably jump back really quick and talk about 1115 01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:02,560 Speaker 1: how there were some weapons and equipment that were intercepted 1116 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,760 Speaker 1: by then the Colombian government at some point, and so 1117 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,720 Speaker 1: Venezuela knew what was going on here. They knew something 1118 01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:11,960 Speaker 1: was in the works, not just something, but they knew 1119 01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:15,120 Speaker 1: that an invasion was evident to overthrow the current president 1120 01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:19,520 Speaker 1: and they were ready and waiting. So two beach landing sites, 1121 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,200 Speaker 1: one of them where we have eight people killed and 1122 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,720 Speaker 1: the rest of the people are most of them any way, arrested, 1123 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,320 Speaker 1: and then there's another beach landing site where the two 1124 01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:30,520 Speaker 1: Americans it looks like anyway, another beach landing site where 1125 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,760 Speaker 1: daylight a fish, a couple of fishing boats that don't 1126 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,800 Speaker 1: look very seaworthy, and where a lot of the video 1127 01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:40,520 Speaker 1: of our two other army Special Forces guys are arrested 1128 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:45,520 Speaker 1: along with some of the other invaders, mercenaries, deserters, or 1129 01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,240 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call them. So there's some video 1130 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,720 Speaker 1: out there that's not very flattering, and it also shows 1131 01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,280 Speaker 1: tremendous restraint I thought, on the side of the Venezuela 1132 01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,600 Speaker 1: and government and police and military forces, because they could 1133 01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:59,840 Speaker 1: have just mowed everybody down like in the Bay of 1134 01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,840 Speaker 1: So they didn't. They just killed eight people and are 1135 01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,680 Speaker 1: currently searching for I think ninety two others right now. 1136 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,480 Speaker 1: So Jordan Boudreau is still my understanding, is still out 1137 01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,400 Speaker 1: there somewhere, and in the middle of all this, he 1138 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:17,880 Speaker 1: does a video tweet with a Venezuelan captain from the 1139 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,440 Speaker 1: National Guard talking about what's going on, that they're there. 1140 01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,240 Speaker 1: They're almost doing a play by play of what's happening, 1141 01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:29,920 Speaker 1: and they tag President Trump's Twitter account on this. So 1142 01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 1: I mean it's just fascinating. The whole thing is absolutely incredible. 1143 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,200 Speaker 1: So now I has two of his buddies. SF guys 1144 01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,840 Speaker 1: are detained in Venezuela play out, the best place to 1145 01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:41,400 Speaker 1: be detained where we have no official relations right now, 1146 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,560 Speaker 1: there's no embassy there to help work on their release. 1147 01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,760 Speaker 1: So we have these two guys that are that are 1148 01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:51,640 Speaker 1: in custody, that are being interrogated of course, and we 1149 01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:55,040 Speaker 1: have the President of Venezuela with their passports, reading it 1150 01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,200 Speaker 1: off on the news and being able to re least 1151 01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,600 Speaker 1: his people say hey, look we have the United States 1152 01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,480 Speaker 1: of theally involved in trying to invade our country. Um, 1153 01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:06,800 Speaker 1: you know we we prevailed over the innovaders and can 1154 01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:11,600 Speaker 1: rally some some nationalism around him, which probably helps him 1155 01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:13,280 Speaker 1: after what's been going on in his country for the 1156 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:17,560 Speaker 1: past few were years, with everyone starving, no medical uh supplies, treatment, 1157 01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,960 Speaker 1: that sort of thing. So it is just a mess. Yeah, 1158 01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,040 Speaker 1: that's probably the best way to describe it. Definitely mess. 1159 01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,400 Speaker 1: I mean, this was this was a go ahead, jack ahead. 1160 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,080 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Kennedy, President Kennedy. So the Bay 1161 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,080 Speaker 1: Page wasn't really it wasn't a branchild with the Kennedy administration. 1162 01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,680 Speaker 1: It was patched by the Eisenhower administration, so Kennedy actually 1163 01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:40,520 Speaker 1: inherited that plan, and what he said in a lead up, 1164 01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,280 Speaker 1: although it was too late really to do much about it, 1165 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:46,680 Speaker 1: was that it seemed too large to be clandestine and 1166 01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,920 Speaker 1: too small to be successful. So that's that's one of 1167 01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,200 Speaker 1: the parallels that we could look at when we're looking 1168 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 1: at this, which may be inspired by something like that, 1169 01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,240 Speaker 1: But what you really need in a situation like this 1170 01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,760 Speaker 1: is a government approach and an invasion of like an 1171 01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:05,120 Speaker 1: eighteen eighty nine invasion of Panama. Even though we're essentially 1172 01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,480 Speaker 1: going after one person in that, Mamuelinoiega. We brought a 1173 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,320 Speaker 1: hole of government approach, obviously very heavy on the military 1174 01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 1: side of the house, and an invasion rather than some deservers. 1175 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:16,000 Speaker 1: So so I want to ask I want to ask 1176 01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:17,520 Speaker 1: you about about this part of it because I feel 1177 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,040 Speaker 1: like a lot of the audience will be thinking, Okay, 1178 01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,280 Speaker 1: so these guys thought they could pull this off. Some 1179 01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,800 Speaker 1: of them did have a real military skill set. A 1180 01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:25,520 Speaker 1: lot of these other guys that seemed like they're just 1181 01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,320 Speaker 1: kind of in the mix for whatever reason. But I 1182 01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,320 Speaker 1: want to ask him, just for everybody. We're talking to 1183 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,600 Speaker 1: Jack Carr, author of the Terminal List series. His new 1184 01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,280 Speaker 1: book out right now, his Savage Son. I am listening 1185 01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,520 Speaker 1: to it. It is excellent and you guys should all 1186 01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,880 Speaker 1: download it as well. Chris Pratt will be playing the 1187 01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:43,560 Speaker 1: main character in the Amazon series, which Jack has promised 1188 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,960 Speaker 1: me will be better than the Jack Ryan series, which 1189 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:53,480 Speaker 1: made the granted handsome and intelligent CIA analyst look good. 1190 01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,920 Speaker 1: But the rest of the series was terrible in the 1191 01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,320 Speaker 1: second season. So Jack says this, so I know he 1192 01:06:58,360 --> 01:06:59,800 Speaker 1: doesn't like to say that because he's working with them 1193 01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:01,760 Speaker 1: as now. That's fine, you you can plead the fifth 1194 01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,520 Speaker 1: I'm just saying the second season I did not approve. 1195 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm never going to deal with Amazon anyway. Let me 1196 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,840 Speaker 1: let me ask you about what if you were presented 1197 01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,640 Speaker 1: back to this situation in Venezuela, if you were presented 1198 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:17,560 Speaker 1: with this plan, would you what would have been the 1199 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,960 Speaker 1: initial I look now now we've seen how it went wrong, 1200 01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,080 Speaker 1: But what what would have been the flags where you're like, 1201 01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:23,680 Speaker 1: if you guys are going to pull off a coup, 1202 01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,800 Speaker 1: you got no chance because of the following Well, there's 1203 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,920 Speaker 1: there's so much to work with there, and I feel 1204 01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,480 Speaker 1: a little bit bad about picking it apart from here 1205 01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,640 Speaker 1: from Afar, especially when we have the US former military 1206 01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,720 Speaker 1: guys that are in custody down there. But I mean, 1207 01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,200 Speaker 1: just a background of what's going on here by looking 1208 01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:44,640 Speaker 1: at that Silver Corp site and looking at what was 1209 01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:48,520 Speaker 1: to copy and pasted from the Department of Homeland Security site, 1210 01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,680 Speaker 1: looking at that in a fake video of this guy 1211 01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:56,680 Speaker 1: pretending to protect Trumpet at a rally, and some of 1212 01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,080 Speaker 1: the background there saying that they've advised that there are 1213 01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:02,040 Speaker 1: fifty countries around on the world and have it advised 1214 01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:05,880 Speaker 1: units like Delta Force and the sas like right away, 1215 01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,680 Speaker 1: there's some red flag there. We're learned to looking at 1216 01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,880 Speaker 1: a leadership from from the leadership type of perspective, like 1217 01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,400 Speaker 1: who's leading this thing? This fly By eventially a fly 1218 01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,519 Speaker 1: By Nite Corporation that was was thrown up at hawk 1219 01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,120 Speaker 1: it looks like. And then some of those things that 1220 01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,559 Speaker 1: those of us who have been in special operations would 1221 01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,000 Speaker 1: look at and say, this just doesn't add up here 1222 01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,639 Speaker 1: through this thing together, fifty countries around the world is weird. 1223 01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,920 Speaker 1: Video that's out there just doesn't doesn't make sense. So 1224 01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:33,479 Speaker 1: so there's that from from the get go and then 1225 01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,040 Speaker 1: you actually look at this thing is hey, look at 1226 01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,360 Speaker 1: the history here we have. We have so we can 1227 01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:41,360 Speaker 1: go back to the nineteen fifty three coup in Iran. Okay, 1228 01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,479 Speaker 1: we have some lessons learned out of that. We kind 1229 01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:45,439 Speaker 1: of got we wanted for a while out of it, 1230 01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,080 Speaker 1: although we're still dealing with the repercussions of that. Today. 1231 01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:50,639 Speaker 1: We have Bay of Pigs. We can learn a lot 1232 01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:52,960 Speaker 1: from that as well, and we have something like the 1233 01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,559 Speaker 1: in then we get more specific to this area the world, 1234 01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,240 Speaker 1: and we look at the invasion of Panama in nineteen 1235 01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:00,400 Speaker 1: eighty nine and we see something that worked. The guy 1236 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,200 Speaker 1: that we were after. We have some lessons learned from 1237 01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,160 Speaker 1: that as well. And then we look at all that 1238 01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:08,040 Speaker 1: stuff holistically, in plus what we learned INTERAC and Afghanistan, 1239 01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:10,880 Speaker 1: and we look at that and apply it to this situation. 1240 01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:12,800 Speaker 1: And it looks like none of the lessons from any 1241 01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:16,080 Speaker 1: of these things were applied. If they really wanted to 1242 01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:19,240 Speaker 1: go in there, wanted to overthrow the government, wanted to 1243 01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,040 Speaker 1: essentially abduct the president and then take him two parts 1244 01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:25,600 Speaker 1: unknown to maybe collect his fifteen million dollars from the 1245 01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,519 Speaker 1: US government, that part's unclear. I mean if you had 1246 01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,040 Speaker 1: let me if you had. And this is not just 1247 01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,920 Speaker 1: in the theoretical space, right, so we understand. So you're saying, look, 1248 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,200 Speaker 1: these guys, they didn't think it through, they didn't do 1249 01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:39,240 Speaker 1: they didn't have the lessons learned even from previous incursions 1250 01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:42,639 Speaker 1: into Latin America or other coups involving either US or 1251 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,040 Speaker 1: other international personnel, so that they didn't really do the 1252 01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,599 Speaker 1: homework on it. From that respect, you said that you 1253 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,439 Speaker 1: either want to be leading, mean, small and quiet, or 1254 01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:52,360 Speaker 1: you want to just do what you said Panama, like, 1255 01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,479 Speaker 1: we're going all in, We're gonna get one guy. We're 1256 01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:56,920 Speaker 1: going to control the battle space and then get this 1257 01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,439 Speaker 1: one guy instead of trying to sneak in the back 1258 01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,640 Speaker 1: door he or you know, a snatching grab like that. 1259 01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:04,640 Speaker 1: If you were trying to write for a novel, and 1260 01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:06,760 Speaker 1: you're Jack's a former Navy seal as you all know. 1261 01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:08,760 Speaker 1: But if you were trying to write for a novel here, 1262 01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,800 Speaker 1: you know, how would you would it? Would this be 1263 01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:16,439 Speaker 1: a dozen guys, twenty guys if they had the right intel, 1264 01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:18,920 Speaker 1: How could this work out in the real world? You 1265 01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:20,280 Speaker 1: know what I mean? If you were war gaming it, 1266 01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,080 Speaker 1: if you were trying to do a snatching grab, not 1267 01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:23,960 Speaker 1: a hit, right, we don't do that. If you're trying 1268 01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:25,960 Speaker 1: to do a snatch and grab, take this guy back 1269 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,360 Speaker 1: to the US to face justice, how what would that 1270 01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,479 Speaker 1: look like? Well, that's I think that the problem is 1271 01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,760 Speaker 1: they looked at it through the lens of someone like 1272 01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,559 Speaker 1: me who is now writing fiction, instead of the lens 1273 01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:39,840 Speaker 1: of someone who's actually planning these things in real life, 1274 01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:42,679 Speaker 1: either at the CIA or the military or whatever else. 1275 01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:46,720 Speaker 1: So it looks like someone like me sat down and thought, well, 1276 01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:50,479 Speaker 1: it would be a great way, a great storyline, right, Yeah, 1277 01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,280 Speaker 1: was that a great storyline? Yeah, it's it's what it 1278 01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:57,120 Speaker 1: sounds like exactly. So yeah, real life, you either hit 1279 01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,880 Speaker 1: them hard full US government approach, You dominate that bat 1280 01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:01,920 Speaker 1: space like you said, grab your guy like we do 1281 01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,719 Speaker 1: with Noriega, to take him back for a trial. Okay, 1282 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,240 Speaker 1: that's one way. The other way to do something like 1283 01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:11,439 Speaker 1: this in real life is through long term covert action 1284 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:16,400 Speaker 1: penetration programs that your former employers are more familiar with, 1285 01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:19,320 Speaker 1: so you're not putting some guys in ninja suits sneaking 1286 01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,680 Speaker 1: through the streets of the capital of a country to 1287 01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:25,320 Speaker 1: go essentially to their White House to snatch the president 1288 01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,519 Speaker 1: and then get him to an airfield and fly him off, 1289 01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,479 Speaker 1: and what kind of an aircraft to wear. Like now 1290 01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:32,120 Speaker 1: we have we have some lessons to learn here, and 1291 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:35,679 Speaker 1: what you would really do is activate those depenetration agents 1292 01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:40,400 Speaker 1: and you would either either it's assassination type thing, or 1293 01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,200 Speaker 1: you have people ready to go to step up and 1294 01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,280 Speaker 1: to essentially arrest like an actual who and arrest the 1295 01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:49,960 Speaker 1: president or doing things that are illegal and put him 1296 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,920 Speaker 1: in prison and probably try him in that country, or 1297 01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:57,360 Speaker 1: work within the work within the existing battle space in 1298 01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:00,320 Speaker 1: some capacity, either personnel who understand what's really going on. 1299 01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,400 Speaker 1: It seems like that was I mean, it seems like 1300 01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:04,320 Speaker 1: this was in many ways for them an intelligence failure, 1301 01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,240 Speaker 1: intelligence victory unfortunately for the Maduro government because they saw 1302 01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,719 Speaker 1: it coming a mile away. But knowing stuff an event 1303 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,680 Speaker 1: certainly it certainly helps. But Bett, if you if you're 1304 01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,759 Speaker 1: looking for some fodder for a book down the line, 1305 01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:18,120 Speaker 1: this certainly will provide it. Jack Carr, everybody check out 1306 01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:20,240 Speaker 1: the latest that he's got in the Terminal List series, 1307 01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:22,840 Speaker 1: Savage Son, what you're hearing me talking about on the show, 1308 01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:24,439 Speaker 1: because I am, in fact listening to it and it's 1309 01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:28,000 Speaker 1: great mister Jack car congrats again. I want to sign 1310 01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:32,120 Speaker 1: you know, Jack Carr slash Chris Pratt Savage sunbook. All right, 1311 01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:36,240 Speaker 1: one day, absolutely absolutely done. All right, Matt, thanks so 1312 01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,240 Speaker 1: much for joining us. Good to talk to you, dude. 1313 01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:43,480 Speaker 1: Take care. Thanks for listening to the Bus Sesson Show podcast. 1314 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:47,680 Speaker 1: Remember to subscribe on Apple Podcast, the iHeartRadio app, or 1315 01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:52,360 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. It's Friday, so I wanted 1316 01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,920 Speaker 1: to give you guys all the great voices, all the 1317 01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,439 Speaker 1: great special on air treats I could, And with that 1318 01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,960 Speaker 1: in mind, we had to go with all six food 1319 01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,880 Speaker 1: ten of him. Jesse Kelly joins us now, the host 1320 01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:06,000 Speaker 1: of I'm Right with Jesse Kelly on Pluto TVs. The 1321 01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:10,960 Speaker 1: first also the syndicated radio host, mister Jesse Kelly and 1322 01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,320 Speaker 1: one day perhaps even who knows President of the United 1323 01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:15,320 Speaker 1: States or something. Jesse Kelly. He's got all. He's got 1324 01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:18,280 Speaker 1: big aspirations for himself. Although today I will tell you 1325 01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:21,200 Speaker 1: he is. He's out there and he is going the 1326 01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,519 Speaker 1: full Miami vice right now, because I can see him 1327 01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:26,400 Speaker 1: as we're doing this interview, and he's like Don Johnson 1328 01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:29,439 Speaker 1: in the eighties, except his shirt is not pink, but 1329 01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,360 Speaker 1: He's wearing a T shirt with a blazer. I'm sorry, 1330 01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:35,639 Speaker 1: is it is this like two for one night out 1331 01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:37,800 Speaker 1: in Boca or something? What's going on here with the 1332 01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,880 Speaker 1: T shirt and the blazer? Jesse? You know, you know 1333 01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,360 Speaker 1: what this is called? Buck? This is called Friday mode. Man, 1334 01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,120 Speaker 1: this is called Friday mode. Just laid back and chilling. 1335 01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:50,000 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm always the best, but on Friday, 1336 01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,920 Speaker 1: I'd like to give people the best version of relaxed Jesse, 1337 01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,799 Speaker 1: because I'm here to get you and all your amazing 1338 01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:58,280 Speaker 1: viewers into the weekend mode. And that's what I'm here for. 1339 01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,240 Speaker 1: I just I feel like it also led me astray 1340 01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:04,040 Speaker 1: in the in the early days on Miami Vice, I figured, Wow, 1341 01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,240 Speaker 1: you can be a cop and drive around in the 1342 01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,639 Speaker 1: equivalent of like a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars 1343 01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:12,920 Speaker 1: ferrari as long as you live on a houseboat and 1344 01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:17,800 Speaker 1: have a pet alligator. There you go. You know what 1345 01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:21,760 Speaker 1: else Miami Vice did, and all Miami TV shows and 1346 01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:25,280 Speaker 1: movies do this exact same thing. Miami Beach is a 1347 01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,879 Speaker 1: beautiful place and it has some of the most beautiful 1348 01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,320 Speaker 1: women you've ever seen in your life. So all that's true, 1349 01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:34,040 Speaker 1: but almost every time they show Miami shows, or they 1350 01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,320 Speaker 1: show Miami on a show or movies, they always make 1351 01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:41,840 Speaker 1: it look as if it's some tropical paradise, some glistening paradise, 1352 01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:46,120 Speaker 1: when so many parts of Nia of Miami are absolutely 1353 01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:49,880 Speaker 1: run down holes. It has beautiful parts to it. But 1354 01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,800 Speaker 1: I have felt more unsafe in Miami than I ever 1355 01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:55,479 Speaker 1: did in Baghdad. Right, Well, I was gonna say Miami 1356 01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:58,600 Speaker 1: Vice was like a tourism ad for a city that 1357 01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:02,719 Speaker 1: actually in the eight in the eighties, there were broad daylight, 1358 01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:06,760 Speaker 1: full on machine gun shootouts between cartel assassins. It was 1359 01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,800 Speaker 1: one of the most violent places in the world for 1360 01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:13,280 Speaker 1: civilian crime stuff. It was out of control. But it 1361 01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:16,600 Speaker 1: was a great show. It's worse. It's worse than that 1362 01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:19,160 Speaker 1: it was a great show. It's worse that people don't realize, 1363 01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:23,559 Speaker 1: like the entire Miami Skyline was built on cocaine money. 1364 01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:25,479 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, not making that up. That's not just like 1365 01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,639 Speaker 1: something that the crazy thing to say. You can watch 1366 01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:32,519 Speaker 1: the documentary Cocaine cowboysmentary called Cocaine Cowboy, Yep, that's right, 1367 01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:34,320 Speaker 1: and they talk about it how all of a sudden 1368 01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:36,320 Speaker 1: there was a bank on every corner because they're all 1369 01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:40,240 Speaker 1: laundering money and virtually everything you see in Miami was 1370 01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,760 Speaker 1: built from cocaine. It's just and when you go there 1371 01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,280 Speaker 1: you realize why. So, Jesse, I was gonna ask you 1372 01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:47,920 Speaker 1: about some of the news the day, but I also 1373 01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,479 Speaker 1: wanted to get your take on the Waco series, even 1374 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:52,800 Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it. I just want to get 1375 01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,840 Speaker 1: your take on Waco in general. But the Waco series 1376 01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:59,440 Speaker 1: on Netflix is. I finished it last night. It's phenomenal. 1377 01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:02,320 Speaker 1: Taylor Kitch should have gotten some kind of I don't 1378 01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:03,840 Speaker 1: know if you got any awards, but not that I e. 1379 01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,120 Speaker 1: One cares about those awards these days. But he gave 1380 01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:09,400 Speaker 1: a remarkable performances. David Koresh and I was just noting that, 1381 01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:11,719 Speaker 1: you know, it's a tough week for the FBI, given 1382 01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,439 Speaker 1: the stuff with Flynn and now also a lot more 1383 01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,200 Speaker 1: people have seen this Waco situation. First off, have you 1384 01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,400 Speaker 1: seen the show? In second, just in general, even if 1385 01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,360 Speaker 1: you haven't seen it, what what should people remember about 1386 01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:27,800 Speaker 1: what happened in Waco, Texas at that standoff with Feds. Well, one, 1387 01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:31,799 Speaker 1: I'm two episodes in, but two I have seen the story. 1388 01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:33,680 Speaker 1: I obviously know the story very well. I know the 1389 01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,559 Speaker 1: Ruby Ridge story too, which obviously they cover in Waco, 1390 01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:40,680 Speaker 1: which is as bad or worse than Waco actually was. 1391 01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:42,360 Speaker 1: I mean, not for total loss of life, but it 1392 01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,880 Speaker 1: was really really ugly. And look, all people should take 1393 01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:49,960 Speaker 1: away from it is you can't necessarily trust the criminal 1394 01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:53,240 Speaker 1: justice system and you can't necessarily trust the government. I'm 1395 01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:56,000 Speaker 1: not saying you need to rebel against it, but there 1396 01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,320 Speaker 1: is this way of thinking in America that you have 1397 01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:01,720 Speaker 1: to either you know, respect police, or you have to 1398 01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:05,519 Speaker 1: be this anti cops scumbag. You can actually just be 1399 01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:09,720 Speaker 1: a normal, well reasoned, thinking human being who realizes that 1400 01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:13,040 Speaker 1: cops law enforcement in general, most of them are putting 1401 01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:15,360 Speaker 1: their butts on the line for you every single day, 1402 01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,840 Speaker 1: while at the same time they are the enforcement arm 1403 01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:21,680 Speaker 1: for every bad government policy there is. We see it 1404 01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:25,320 Speaker 1: right now when they're locking up salon owners. It's the 1405 01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:29,160 Speaker 1: history of the world says that cops in the military 1406 01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:33,360 Speaker 1: will be used by an overreaching government to enforce bad policies. 1407 01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,000 Speaker 1: And Americans, especially people on the right, when you've heard 1408 01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:39,120 Speaker 1: our people do this book of Oh, the military would 1409 01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:43,840 Speaker 1: never enforce these anti constitutional gun laws. Oh, cops would 1410 01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,679 Speaker 1: never go along with that. I hope you're all paying 1411 01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:49,680 Speaker 1: attention now, you've all seen a two month example of 1412 01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,080 Speaker 1: they will go along with anything they're told to do 1413 01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:55,760 Speaker 1: because it's their mortgage on the line, it's their car 1414 01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,000 Speaker 1: payment on the line. The government tells them to go 1415 01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,639 Speaker 1: arrest some poor stap for paddle boarding in the ocean, 1416 01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:03,200 Speaker 1: it's mobilized. The police votes, Baby, they're going to go 1417 01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:06,439 Speaker 1: put him in. Comes Jesse. Actually, that's that's a perfect 1418 01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:09,439 Speaker 1: transition as well into this story that's now getting a 1419 01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:13,679 Speaker 1: lot of attention because the President has commented. Actually, a producer, Mark, 1420 01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,920 Speaker 1: do you have the Do you have the president's comments 1421 01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:18,640 Speaker 1: on this one? If you do, just play it and 1422 01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:20,760 Speaker 1: I'll tell Jesse when we come back from Yeah, play 1423 01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:24,439 Speaker 1: clip seven. So I saw the tape and it's very, 1424 01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:27,519 Speaker 1: very disturbing. The tape I got to see it. It's 1425 01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,240 Speaker 1: very disturbing. I looked at a picture of that young 1426 01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:33,200 Speaker 1: man who was at a tuxedo and in fact, you 1427 01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:36,880 Speaker 1: put it up and I will say that that looks 1428 01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:41,760 Speaker 1: like a really good young guy, and it looks very 1429 01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,360 Speaker 1: it's a very disturbing situation to me, and I just 1430 01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, my heart goes out to the parents and 1431 01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,720 Speaker 1: the family and the friends, but yet we have to 1432 01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,000 Speaker 1: take it. You know, law enforcement's going to look at it, 1433 01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:55,280 Speaker 1: and they have a good governor in the state, and 1434 01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,760 Speaker 1: he's going to very good governor actually, and he's going 1435 01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,800 Speaker 1: to be looking added very strongly, and he's going to 1436 01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,800 Speaker 1: do what's right. But it's a it's a heartbreaking thing. 1437 01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:08,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's very rough, rough stuff. So Jesse President 1438 01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:12,120 Speaker 1: Trump saying that the video that he's seen of Ahmed 1439 01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:17,200 Speaker 1: Ahmed Arbury is heartbreaking stuff. It looks really bad. You know, 1440 01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,400 Speaker 1: they've got a good governor. Though they're gonna look into this. 1441 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:22,280 Speaker 1: Law enforcement now has taken action to arresting people. They 1442 01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,320 Speaker 1: seem to be a tremendous amount of back and forth 1443 01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:27,320 Speaker 1: on social media. I came a little late to this story. 1444 01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:29,559 Speaker 1: I feel like I've just been looking at it last 1445 01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:34,240 Speaker 1: twenty four hours. But what we had mister Arbury was 1446 01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:39,639 Speaker 1: jogging two guys who are near their pickup truck. They 1447 01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,240 Speaker 1: had shotguns and they tried to get him to stop, 1448 01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:44,840 Speaker 1: and they said, I believe that they were trying to 1449 01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,439 Speaker 1: affect the citizens arrest because of burglaries that had happened 1450 01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:51,439 Speaker 1: in the neighborhood. Arbury had some kind of you know, 1451 01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,920 Speaker 1: some kind of confrontation with them that these guys forced 1452 01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:57,320 Speaker 1: and then he got shot and he was killed. Now 1453 01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:00,880 Speaker 1: there's video of it, And first off is the narrative, 1454 01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:02,639 Speaker 1: and I might be a little off as a narrative 1455 01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,960 Speaker 1: essentially right on the facts there, And what's your take 1456 01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:08,360 Speaker 1: on what happened here and what doesn't seem like there 1457 01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,519 Speaker 1: should be much argument. It looks like these guys killed 1458 01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:12,439 Speaker 1: this guy and they're not cops, and what the heck 1459 01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:14,840 Speaker 1: were they doing? Well, there's not much argument out there. 1460 01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,719 Speaker 1: People are acting as if oh, this is a wire 1461 01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:20,719 Speaker 1: and wire people standing up against this. Virtually every single 1462 01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,360 Speaker 1: person is standing against this. It's not much of an argument. 1463 01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:25,280 Speaker 1: This is not one of those cases where you see 1464 01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:27,840 Speaker 1: like five seconds of a police video that looks really 1465 01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:30,599 Speaker 1: bad and everyone jumps to conclusions and then you get 1466 01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:32,839 Speaker 1: the rest of the story and all of a sudden, 1467 01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:35,120 Speaker 1: you look like an idiot. No, we saw the whole 1468 01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:37,679 Speaker 1: thing on video. We have all the background on it. 1469 01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,960 Speaker 1: It looks like a former police officer. That's the dad 1470 01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:44,599 Speaker 1: and his son. The dad apparently had some sort of 1471 01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:48,400 Speaker 1: investigative history with this Ahmud Arbore, so he knew him 1472 01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,240 Speaker 1: in some way. But they tried to stop him with 1473 01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:53,880 Speaker 1: weapons when the guy was apparently out jogging. There was 1474 01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,840 Speaker 1: not even an accusation that he was doing anything wrong. 1475 01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,240 Speaker 1: We even have a nine one one transcript of them 1476 01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:01,840 Speaker 1: calling nine on one of the operators asking why are 1477 01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:04,320 Speaker 1: you calling nine one one, and they essentially say, well, 1478 01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:06,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't really know. They don't have an answer. Look, 1479 01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,920 Speaker 1: it looks bad. It is bad. The bad part is 1480 01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,160 Speaker 1: this happened in February. Man, we all saw the video 1481 01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:15,960 Speaker 1: yesterday and those guys were just arrested last night after 1482 01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:18,839 Speaker 1: all this social media rage we saw and it shouldn't 1483 01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,600 Speaker 1: take that and people were losing faith in law enforcement. 1484 01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:24,360 Speaker 1: So all that's bad, But allow me to also say 1485 01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:28,439 Speaker 1: this one. This is not an opportunity for people like 1486 01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:32,439 Speaker 1: Lebron James to become some civil rights leader, which he 1487 01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:35,599 Speaker 1: badly wants to be talking about how black men are 1488 01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,599 Speaker 1: out there being hunted. We don't know that, we don't 1489 01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:41,640 Speaker 1: know a motivation. We can talk about the fact that 1490 01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:45,280 Speaker 1: an innocent man was apparently gunned down and feel for 1491 01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:48,639 Speaker 1: his family without instantly making everything as if you're Martin 1492 01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:52,639 Speaker 1: Luther King, You're not stop with that. That's one. Two. 1493 01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:55,400 Speaker 1: The people on the right. I see it. This drives 1494 01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,880 Speaker 1: me crazy. I've seen it all over the media. Of 1495 01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:01,080 Speaker 1: this there's a modern day lynching. We can't have this 1496 01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:03,439 Speaker 1: lynching of all these people on the right with the 1497 01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:07,200 Speaker 1: stupid language. People, just because the left has called you 1498 01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:11,080 Speaker 1: racist for the last thirty years doesn't mean you are, 1499 01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:14,240 Speaker 1: and it doesn't mean you have to overcompensate every time 1500 01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,719 Speaker 1: a black dude gets killed to try to really prove 1501 01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:19,360 Speaker 1: how not racist you are. I have black friends, I 1502 01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:22,320 Speaker 1: said lynching. Doesn't that make me one of the increp people. 1503 01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:24,559 Speaker 1: You can just judge each case as it is. The 1504 01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:27,639 Speaker 1: dude wasn't a black man. It was a dude who 1505 01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:30,600 Speaker 1: got murdered. That's really bad. It's bad enough. Feel for 1506 01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:33,840 Speaker 1: his family, cry for justice, which we're apparently going to 1507 01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,519 Speaker 1: get in. It's fine, you're not Martin Luther King. You 1508 01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:38,920 Speaker 1: don't have to check out all the wop boxes. Just 1509 01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:41,320 Speaker 1: because the left has been lying about what you believe 1510 01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,120 Speaker 1: co sign I mean, I think I think that pretty 1511 01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:45,920 Speaker 1: much covers it on that case. And it looks like 1512 01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:48,080 Speaker 1: it looks like a you know, then these guys like 1513 01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:51,240 Speaker 1: a charge with manslaughter or murder and unless there's something 1514 01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:53,160 Speaker 1: we don't really know, which doesn't seem like there is. 1515 01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:54,920 Speaker 1: They should spend a whole lot of time in prison. 1516 01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:58,120 Speaker 1: And that's the way it is. You know, I will 1517 01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:00,519 Speaker 1: tell you. I will tell you started interrupt the real quick. 1518 01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:03,240 Speaker 1: I always because I'm so hesitated on these things, because 1519 01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:06,160 Speaker 1: of all the outrage, I'm hesitant to ever or ever 1520 01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,600 Speaker 1: even comment on it. I looked into this quite a 1521 01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:12,360 Speaker 1: bit over the last twenty four hours. It is apparently 1522 01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:15,640 Speaker 1: as bad as it looked initially. It looks pretty open. Well, 1523 01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:17,960 Speaker 1: I just think about it from from the end. You know, 1524 01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:20,040 Speaker 1: you always hear this stuff from from the left wing 1525 01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,680 Speaker 1: media of Oh, and even now, I'm like, there's was 1526 01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:25,400 Speaker 1: there any controversy? I didn't hear any controversy. You're like, no, 1527 01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:27,280 Speaker 1: there's no I mean when I say there's no controversy, 1528 01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:30,880 Speaker 1: there's no two sides that are one side saying yeah, 1529 01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:32,880 Speaker 1: this looks like it's totally I haven't seen anyone say 1530 01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,639 Speaker 1: this looks this looks like it was a clean shoot 1531 01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,559 Speaker 1: or a legal shoot or a you know, law enforcement 1532 01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,160 Speaker 1: uses different terms for its self defense. I haven't seen 1533 01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,439 Speaker 1: anybody making that case based on the video. And it 1534 01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:46,320 Speaker 1: reminds me of when that guy that that African American 1535 01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:48,160 Speaker 1: man was shot running away from the cop. I think 1536 01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:50,200 Speaker 1: it was in South Carolina, and there was all this 1537 01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,839 Speaker 1: lib outrage about see conservatives or even defending this. Every 1538 01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,960 Speaker 1: single conservative and media I know was like, that was murder. 1539 01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:59,360 Speaker 1: Send that dude who shot him to prison for like 1540 01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:03,360 Speaker 1: there was no there wasn't a back and forth over that, 1541 01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:08,639 Speaker 1: Like people don't actually defend people murdering other people on 1542 01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:11,320 Speaker 1: the right and the left seems to like to pretend 1543 01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:13,920 Speaker 1: this game that pretend that that's what happens. But I 1544 01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:16,960 Speaker 1: think I think we've pretty much covered where this one is. 1545 01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,280 Speaker 1: We're speaking of Jesse Kelly everybody. He is the host 1546 01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:21,679 Speaker 1: of the Jesse Kelly Show on radio, and also I'm 1547 01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:24,519 Speaker 1: right with Jesse Kelly on Pluto TV's the first which 1548 01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:25,720 Speaker 1: is why I can see him, which is why I'm 1549 01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:28,080 Speaker 1: giving a hard time about his Miami Vice outfit today. 1550 01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:30,880 Speaker 1: But I also wanted to transition Jesse, because you're one 1551 01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:32,519 Speaker 1: of the You're one of the few. I mean, I 1552 01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:37,160 Speaker 1: can kind of count most of the skeptics out there, 1553 01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:39,080 Speaker 1: And when I say skeptics, I just mean people that 1554 01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:41,240 Speaker 1: ask questions, right, people that are saying, hold on a 1555 01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:43,840 Speaker 1: second about this. You've been very vocal about the damage 1556 01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,120 Speaker 1: the economy and how the lockdowns were a bad idea. 1557 01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,280 Speaker 1: I was even more vocal about it for me initially, 1558 01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,000 Speaker 1: and then I was just like, Okay, people are crazy. 1559 01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:53,240 Speaker 1: I can't even I can't take this. And now I'm like, 1560 01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:54,880 Speaker 1: all right, this has gotten so bad, I'm gonna be 1561 01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:58,400 Speaker 1: vocal about it again. And there are few barrens in 1562 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, Matt Walsh is very very much in 1563 01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,400 Speaker 1: favor of reopened. I mean, there's like a few dozen 1564 01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:07,400 Speaker 1: of us that I've been yelling about this for a 1565 01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:11,320 Speaker 1: long time online. What's it going to take, man? When? 1566 01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:13,839 Speaker 1: Because I guess now has it just become so political 1567 01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:15,920 Speaker 1: that it doesn't matter how much suffering there is and 1568 01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:17,840 Speaker 1: how many people are losing their businesses and their life 1569 01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:20,360 Speaker 1: savings in the process. As long as this crush is Trump, 1570 01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:21,920 Speaker 1: it's worth it two people. Is that where we are? 1571 01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,360 Speaker 1: To be honest, Buck, It's even worse than that. It's 1572 01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:28,840 Speaker 1: all a game of percentages, man, It's all a game 1573 01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:32,080 Speaker 1: of percentages. The pull after poll after poller continually shows 1574 01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:34,800 Speaker 1: that sixty seventy percent of the people are okay with us, 1575 01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:37,479 Speaker 1: and the reason for that is Yeah, we've got forty 1576 01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:40,479 Speaker 1: fifty million Americans probably unemployed. That's probably the real number. 1577 01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,519 Speaker 1: It's top thirty three million. It's a lot more than that. 1578 01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:46,599 Speaker 1: Everyone knows that, but virtually everyone else is either still 1579 01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:50,160 Speaker 1: getting a paycheck or because of that idiot bill they 1580 01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:52,639 Speaker 1: passed at two three and dollar bill, everyone was cheering. 1581 01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:56,040 Speaker 1: They're paying people the equivalent of fifty two thousand dollars 1582 01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:59,320 Speaker 1: a year to be unemployed. I personally know business owners 1583 01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:02,160 Speaker 1: more than one who have called their employees because we're 1584 01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:04,599 Speaker 1: opening back up in Texas and said, hey, it's about 1585 01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:06,560 Speaker 1: time to get back to work, and their employees have said, no, 1586 01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:09,400 Speaker 1: I'm making more money now. So not only have we 1587 01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:13,639 Speaker 1: crushed jobs, but we're paying people to stay home. Therefore, 1588 01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:17,000 Speaker 1: most of the public, not all, I'd say thirty percent 1589 01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,160 Speaker 1: of the public, wants to open back up. The rest 1590 01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,320 Speaker 1: of the people were either still getting to check or 1591 01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:24,240 Speaker 1: they're making more money on unemployment. So the politicians look 1592 01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:27,160 Speaker 1: at these numbers and think, keep them locked down, and 1593 01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:29,800 Speaker 1: we are kicking this can down the road, and the 1594 01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:33,559 Speaker 1: pain is now just because it's delayed. Oh, it's it's 1595 01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:35,920 Speaker 1: really really bad, buck, I don't I know. It's a Friday. 1596 01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:37,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to bring anybody down, But as bad 1597 01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:40,200 Speaker 1: as you think it is, if I were to actually 1598 01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:42,759 Speaker 1: go into all the details of what's happening in this economy, 1599 01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:45,760 Speaker 1: it's ten times worse than that. We are what's going 1600 01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:49,640 Speaker 1: to take serious the problem here? And you know the politicians, 1601 01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:53,320 Speaker 1: you know Cuomo and these people that have been heralded 1602 01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:55,640 Speaker 1: in the media. Has Cuomo has been a disaster in 1603 01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:59,320 Speaker 1: New York. I mean his contribution so far has been long, 1604 01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:02,800 Speaker 1: overblown press conferences that didn't give us data that we 1605 01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:05,360 Speaker 1: couldn't have gotten in two slides in two minutes, and 1606 01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:08,639 Speaker 1: then also sending people with COVID nineteen back into nursing homes. 1607 01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,679 Speaker 1: That's been his contribution to the fight against COVID nineteen 1608 01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:13,679 Speaker 1: in New York. It's it's been an end complaining about 1609 01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:16,640 Speaker 1: ventilators and then turns out we don't need them. But 1610 01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:19,160 Speaker 1: the fact that people and this is my concern, that 1611 01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:23,599 Speaker 1: people in a majority still want the lockdown to continue. 1612 01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:25,559 Speaker 1: You broke down why some people are still getting a paycheck. 1613 01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:28,680 Speaker 1: Some people don't understand the economic implications. What does it 1614 01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:32,880 Speaker 1: take for that number nationally to move so that people 1615 01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:38,000 Speaker 1: realize we've got has to become personal for enough people, 1616 01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:39,960 Speaker 1: and it hasn't yet. That's just the truth of the matter. 1617 01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:42,120 Speaker 1: But for two months, a lot most people or either 1618 01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:45,519 Speaker 1: collected unemployment. They're watching Netflix, they're bay drinking, which God 1619 01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:48,000 Speaker 1: God love them for that. But as soon as people 1620 01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:50,360 Speaker 1: start showing up at the supermarket and there's no meat, 1621 01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:53,479 Speaker 1: then they'll realize. As soon as the unemployment checks stopped coming, 1622 01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:56,160 Speaker 1: then they'll realize as soon as we open back up 1623 01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,160 Speaker 1: and you have exactly half of the restaurants who used 1624 01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:01,640 Speaker 1: to have, and they'll realize. I mean, people are not 1625 01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:05,559 Speaker 1: gonna it's official now. We live in a country. Sadly, 1626 01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:09,320 Speaker 1: unless until it becomes personal, people don't care. I thought 1627 01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:11,559 Speaker 1: the one, the one thing I've ever been wrong about 1628 01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:13,840 Speaker 1: ever in my life, buck was at the very beginning 1629 01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:15,479 Speaker 1: of this I told everybody we were going to have 1630 01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:18,280 Speaker 1: thirty plus million unemployed people. Everyone told me I was 1631 01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:20,080 Speaker 1: an idiot and I was wrong, and of course I 1632 01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,160 Speaker 1: turned out to be right, like always. But what I 1633 01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:26,040 Speaker 1: said was, once we hit that number, America will freak 1634 01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:28,240 Speaker 1: out and wake up, and they'll turn on a diamond 1635 01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:30,920 Speaker 1: say open us back up. That's what I was wrong about. 1636 01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:34,200 Speaker 1: They still don't give a crap until fifty one percent 1637 01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:37,479 Speaker 1: of this population is flat broken, busted, we won't open 1638 01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:41,840 Speaker 1: back up again. Thank you, right, which is really disconcerting, 1639 01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:44,840 Speaker 1: But he is right because that's the name of his show. 1640 01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,679 Speaker 1: I'm right with Jesse Kelly. That's the place you should 1641 01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:49,880 Speaker 1: go on Pluto TV to check him out. Also listen 1642 01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:53,400 Speaker 1: to Jesse Kelly Show and down in KPRC Houston. It's 1643 01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:55,680 Speaker 1: a fantastic radio lineup there. They have Jesse Kelly and 1644 01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:57,840 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton, so that makes it the best radio station 1645 01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:01,000 Speaker 1: in Houston, no question. Chuck him out, Jesse, thanks for 1646 01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:06,320 Speaker 1: your time. Man, been good man. You're in the Freedom High. 1647 01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:13,479 Speaker 1: This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. I mean it's 1648 01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:17,760 Speaker 1: been stunning. Actually, how the some of his surrogates with 1649 01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,080 Speaker 1: the blue checks. You know that our historians have been 1650 01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:23,320 Speaker 1: saying really horrible things about me and to me on 1651 01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:27,200 Speaker 1: social media. He hasn't himself, but there is a measure 1652 01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:30,280 Speaker 1: of hypocrisy with the campaign saying it's safe. It's not 1653 01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:33,400 Speaker 1: been safe. You know, all my social media has been hacked, 1654 01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:37,200 Speaker 1: All my personal information has been dragged through every person 1655 01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:41,000 Speaker 1: that maybe has a gripe against me, an ex boyfriend 1656 01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:43,160 Speaker 1: or an ex landlord or whatever it is, has been 1657 01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:46,960 Speaker 1: able to have a platform rather than me talking about 1658 01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:49,840 Speaker 1: things that have nothing to do with nineteen ninety three, 1659 01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:53,639 Speaker 1: like even the whole thing with being called a Russian agent, 1660 01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:58,280 Speaker 1: that in particular that incites people people. Actually I got 1661 01:29:58,360 --> 01:29:59,920 Speaker 1: a death threat from that because they thought I was 1662 01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:02,479 Speaker 1: being a traitor to America. And I mean, these are 1663 01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:06,760 Speaker 1: serious things, and his campaign is taking this position that 1664 01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:09,799 Speaker 1: they want all women to be able to speak safely. 1665 01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:13,680 Speaker 1: I have not experienced that. We will not forget the 1666 01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:17,080 Speaker 1: allegations against Joe Biden here on the show, nor will 1667 01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:21,920 Speaker 1: we allow it to go without notice that there are 1668 01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:24,400 Speaker 1: people who are working for the election of Joe Biden, 1669 01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:28,160 Speaker 1: who are supporting him, who are trying desperately to silence 1670 01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:33,200 Speaker 1: terror Reid and her thus far entirely credible, not proven, 1671 01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:37,560 Speaker 1: but credible allegation of sexual assault that does have contemporaneous corroboration. 1672 01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:42,040 Speaker 1: We're not going to let this go. The Democrats, the Libs, 1673 01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:44,960 Speaker 1: they pretend to have certain principles, certain goals in mind 1674 01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:48,120 Speaker 1: for women, and we know that they're frauds and we 1675 01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:50,000 Speaker 1: will hold them accountable for that. So I know, we 1676 01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:51,560 Speaker 1: didn't talk about this much that in the show, but 1677 01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:53,360 Speaker 1: I will deep dive with you on this on Monday. 1678 01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:56,360 Speaker 1: Don't think that I'm letting this one slide. Joe Biden 1679 01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:59,240 Speaker 1: and the Democrats are going to answer for what they 1680 01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:02,280 Speaker 1: need to here. It's going to happen. Thanks for listening 1681 01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:06,679 Speaker 1: to the Bus Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcast, 1682 01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:11,320 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. Like 1683 01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:15,200 Speaker 1: Soft Butter on Warm Toast. Time to spread some freedom 1684 01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:28,920 Speaker 1: coast to coast. It's time for roll Call. Roll call everybody. 1685 01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:30,920 Speaker 1: You know what that means. We get to hear from 1686 01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:32,360 Speaker 1: all of you. Please make sure you check in on 1687 01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:36,880 Speaker 1: bucksx and dot com and you also are subscribed to 1688 01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:40,680 Speaker 1: our podcast. One really amazing thing is that I've been 1689 01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:44,280 Speaker 1: told by our digital team that our podcast people tend 1690 01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:47,080 Speaker 1: to listen to it the whole thing, which is really 1691 01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:48,920 Speaker 1: rare in the world of podcast because we do a 1692 01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:50,679 Speaker 1: pretty we do a pretty long show, but the whole 1693 01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:52,799 Speaker 1: thing out. You know, if I just wanted to producer 1694 01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:54,320 Speaker 1: Mark and I just wanted to juice up the numbers 1695 01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:55,600 Speaker 1: a bit, we could put out like a thirty or 1696 01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:58,880 Speaker 1: forty minute podcast. Oh, people download that, and it seems 1697 01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:00,600 Speaker 1: like that's an easier listening. But we put out the 1698 01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:04,160 Speaker 1: whole show every day, and you wonderful folks who do 1699 01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:06,920 Speaker 1: me the constant honor of giving me some of your time, 1700 01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:10,600 Speaker 1: and producer Mark giving us some of your time. You 1701 01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:13,240 Speaker 1: are listening to the whole show, and that really means 1702 01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:15,120 Speaker 1: a lot to us. So please continue to spread the 1703 01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:20,040 Speaker 1: word about the buck Sexton Show podcast and we'll continue 1704 01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,320 Speaker 1: doing what we do here. 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All right, 1711 01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:46,120 Speaker 1: roll call David, Oh, and YouTube, I can't forget YouTube 1712 01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:48,080 Speaker 1: dot com slash buck Sexton if you want to see 1713 01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:50,200 Speaker 1: what we're doing on the on the Pluto TV channel, 1714 01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:53,080 Speaker 1: and we'll also post some exclusive content there. We're going 1715 01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:54,880 Speaker 1: to be doing more and more of that. You know. 1716 01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:56,559 Speaker 1: The problem I have now is I'm spending so many 1717 01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:59,040 Speaker 1: hours every day doing radio that I really actually am 1718 01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:00,720 Speaker 1: running out of time to do anything else than any 1719 01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:04,599 Speaker 1: given day. So because I'm doing five hours of radio, 1720 01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:07,559 Speaker 1: which is a lot for anybody, five hours of solo radio. 1721 01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:09,680 Speaker 1: I've never heard of anyone else doing that. I'm sure 1722 01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:12,160 Speaker 1: there are some people who have done it, but I 1723 01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:16,439 Speaker 1: don't know. That's not not common. David Wright saying, hey, Buck, 1724 01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:19,200 Speaker 1: you're a few years younger than I am. But I 1725 01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:21,559 Speaker 1: remember when I was a kid, if somebody got chicken pox, 1726 01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:24,320 Speaker 1: our parents would have chicken pox parties so we could 1727 01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:26,040 Speaker 1: all get out of the way. I'll be a different, 1728 01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:30,400 Speaker 1: different virus, but same premise. And David, I've heard of this, 1729 01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:32,519 Speaker 1: And yeah, I think people have done this with I mean, 1730 01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:34,920 Speaker 1: I think measles is more dangerous than chicken pox. I 1731 01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:37,560 Speaker 1: don't really know, though, so don't take my word on 1732 01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:40,760 Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, I've heard of this. Um, you know, 1733 01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:44,760 Speaker 1: chicken pox can actually come back later on in life 1734 01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:50,360 Speaker 1: as shingles too, And interestingly enough, I, as a teenager 1735 01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:53,160 Speaker 1: had I had I had chicken poxes a little kid, 1736 01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:55,920 Speaker 1: but I actually had shingles as a teenager, which is 1737 01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:59,680 Speaker 1: very rare, and they had no idea why. But yeah, 1738 01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:02,080 Speaker 1: I had full blown shingles when I was about eighteen. 1739 01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:05,800 Speaker 1: And to give you a sense of how brilliant doctors are. 1740 01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:08,800 Speaker 1: The first dermatologist, a specialist that I went to, thought 1741 01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:12,719 Speaker 1: that it was spider bites. It was not spider bites. 1742 01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:15,720 Speaker 1: I had to go back and because it spread and 1743 01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:18,320 Speaker 1: grew and was very painful. It was on the trunk, 1744 01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:20,639 Speaker 1: on my body, and they still I was like, why 1745 01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:22,360 Speaker 1: am I getting I'm a healthy kid, I was eighteen, 1746 01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:24,559 Speaker 1: I was in great shape. I felt fine, Why am 1747 01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:26,240 Speaker 1: I getting shingle? You know, usually it happens people with 1748 01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:28,560 Speaker 1: a weekend immune system when they're older, and it's a 1749 01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:34,920 Speaker 1: recurrence of the chicken pox chicken pox virus that stays 1750 01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:37,080 Speaker 1: in your system. It lies dormant in your system and 1751 01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:39,160 Speaker 1: comes back later on, making me very bad for a 1752 01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:41,800 Speaker 1: particularly older people. If you get it tends to happen 1753 01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:43,439 Speaker 1: on the trunk or on the face, and if it 1754 01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:45,880 Speaker 1: gets near your eyes, you can actually go blind from it. 1755 01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:48,719 Speaker 1: I think, so you got to be very careful with shingles. 1756 01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:54,439 Speaker 1: It's very painful too. Anyway, Ed Rights producer Mark and 1757 01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:56,479 Speaker 1: Buck glad you're making it through the great lockdown to 1758 01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:58,720 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Thank you both for what you give us 1759 01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:01,720 Speaker 1: out here in lockdown. A well thank you, Ed My 1760 01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:04,680 Speaker 1: Talk Radio roots go way back to before the late 1761 01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:09,920 Speaker 1: nineteen eighties when Rush was doing caller Abortions m During 1762 01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:14,200 Speaker 1: the Waco incident, Tacos Ge Gordon Lyddy always referred to 1763 01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:18,880 Speaker 1: the HRT as the WOW as the hostage roasting Team. 1764 01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:21,599 Speaker 1: It sticks with me to this day and I think 1765 01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:24,200 Speaker 1: of it every time you mentioned Waco driving listening with 1766 01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:27,240 Speaker 1: Shield's Eye, Well, thank you, Ed. Yeah, I mean, I'm 1767 01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm telling you everybody listening to this one if you're 1768 01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:33,439 Speaker 1: looking for a show on Netflix, that Waco Show is 1769 01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:35,800 Speaker 1: and it was originally was it? What was it on? 1770 01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:40,200 Speaker 1: What channel? Was Paramount Network? What was it called Paramount Network? 1771 01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:42,280 Speaker 1: It was Paramount Network. Really, I think it was just 1772 01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:45,760 Speaker 1: like US is what FX is now? Well, yeah, it was, 1773 01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:47,519 Speaker 1: that's right. I think it was an FX series and 1774 01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:52,200 Speaker 1: now it's owned by Paramount Um. But it was a Yeah, 1775 01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:54,920 Speaker 1: it's a very good series, a very good show. I 1776 01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:58,960 Speaker 1: highly highly recommend you check it out. And Taylor Kitch, 1777 01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:02,040 Speaker 1: whom some of you would know from, he played Gambit 1778 01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:06,880 Speaker 1: in one of the X Men movies. Briefly, so if 1779 01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:09,680 Speaker 1: you saw what was it was the Wolverine movie, I 1780 01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:12,200 Speaker 1: think do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, I 1781 01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:14,200 Speaker 1: know you're talking about, but I don't remember him innute. Yeah, 1782 01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:15,600 Speaker 1: I forget what. Yeah, he was in it. He was like, 1783 01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:18,160 Speaker 1: my name is Remy Lebeaux. I have a weird French 1784 01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:21,280 Speaker 1: accident and I'm Gambit, you know. And he's only in 1785 01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:22,720 Speaker 1: the movie for a couple of seconds. It is not 1786 01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:25,200 Speaker 1: it's not a good appearance really because the Gambit character 1787 01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:26,559 Speaker 1: they don't I didn't think they did a good job 1788 01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:29,920 Speaker 1: with at all. But he's also from Friday Night Lights, 1789 01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:31,720 Speaker 1: which was a show that I liked a lot, even 1790 01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:35,080 Speaker 1: though it had its problems. But he the Waco you 1791 01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:38,320 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta watch it because here here's the one 1792 01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:40,439 Speaker 1: that this factoid. I knew this beforehand, but this comes 1793 01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:43,040 Speaker 1: up at the end. FBI said, you had seventy five 1794 01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:47,200 Speaker 1: people die either burned to death or smoke innhilation in 1795 01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:51,960 Speaker 1: the Waco compound. And FBI made no provision to put 1796 01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:55,400 Speaker 1: out the fire after they used the cs gas. So 1797 01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:57,479 Speaker 1: the whole that when the building catches on fire, they 1798 01:36:57,520 --> 01:37:00,200 Speaker 1: didn't think and they'd been parked outside for like two months. Okay, 1799 01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:03,280 Speaker 1: no one thought to have fire trucks handy. That's not 1800 01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:05,360 Speaker 1: exactly great planning. It's not like they were short on 1801 01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:08,040 Speaker 1: time to figure this out either. And then initially the 1802 01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:12,200 Speaker 1: FBI claimed that they did not use any incendiary devices 1803 01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:15,080 Speaker 1: of any kind while they were using the cs gas 1804 01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:18,040 Speaker 1: to drive them out of the compound. Tear gas basically 1805 01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:21,360 Speaker 1: drive them out of the compound. And then it came out, 1806 01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:24,679 Speaker 1: oh no, they use flashbang gren eggs and grenades, which 1807 01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:29,880 Speaker 1: can be an incendiary device. So they lied. They lied 1808 01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:34,479 Speaker 1: about it, which you know, FBI cannot lie. You know, 1809 01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:39,280 Speaker 1: maybe they should like put that on big plaques and 1810 01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:43,120 Speaker 1: put her all over the Jay Edgar Hoover building in DC. 1811 01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:46,240 Speaker 1: Quite a guy to name the FBI building for it 1812 01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:50,320 Speaker 1: when you think about some of his stuff. Anyway, I 1813 01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:54,320 Speaker 1: really recommend you see the Waco show surely, And by 1814 01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:55,760 Speaker 1: the way, you know the other thing is, yeah, but 1815 01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:58,080 Speaker 1: the branch Davidians, i mean, David Koresh was a nut 1816 01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:00,599 Speaker 1: job and a peto and a lot of terrible stuff 1817 01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:03,840 Speaker 1: going on there too. But we expect the FBI to 1818 01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:08,240 Speaker 1: act appropriately even when dealing with Koresh. Koresh like nut jobs. 1819 01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:12,680 Speaker 1: Surely have you seen patients of videos of patients being 1820 01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:16,080 Speaker 1: wheeled out of the hospital after surviving complicated treatment for 1821 01:38:16,160 --> 01:38:19,040 Speaker 1: COVID staff lining the hall is clapping. I guess they 1822 01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:21,280 Speaker 1: are over fifty staff standing right next to each other, 1823 01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:24,960 Speaker 1: but wearing masks inside a hospital yet fill in the blank. 1824 01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:32,439 Speaker 1: Can't be in a salon, can't be in a church, etc. Etc. Well, surely, 1825 01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:34,280 Speaker 1: I mean, surely, I think I get what you're trying 1826 01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:36,040 Speaker 1: to say here, But keep in mind that in a 1827 01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:39,680 Speaker 1: hospital they're being I mean, they're wearing protective equipment and 1828 01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:43,160 Speaker 1: they're they're all being exposed to the virus. So they're 1829 01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:45,920 Speaker 1: inherently being exposed to virus. It's a little different than say, 1830 01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:48,640 Speaker 1: in a grocery store something like that. But we'll keep it. 1831 01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:50,320 Speaker 1: We gotta keep an eye on make sure that the 1832 01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:53,800 Speaker 1: standard is applied universally through all these different jurisdictions that 1833 01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:56,440 Speaker 1: are saying you have to wear wear masks. But you know, hospitals, 1834 01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:00,360 Speaker 1: they they're on they're dealing with this stuff, and so 1835 01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:04,080 Speaker 1: they know they know what they're what they're up against. 1836 01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:08,280 Speaker 1: At this point, Dave, how is it that China opened 1837 01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:10,680 Speaker 1: up a while back, but we are still closed with 1838 01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:14,000 Speaker 1: talk of kids not going back to school in the fault? Dave, 1839 01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:17,360 Speaker 1: that is a very good question for which nobody really 1840 01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:20,720 Speaker 1: has a great answer. Did China really control this thing? 1841 01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:23,880 Speaker 1: Or is China pretending to have it under control? We 1842 01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:27,320 Speaker 1: know China not just not only lied about it in 1843 01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:32,040 Speaker 1: the early stages, but also the Chinese government was stockpiling 1844 01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:34,320 Speaker 1: equipment to deal with it when they were telling everybody 1845 01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:35,760 Speaker 1: else that, you know, there was no big deal here, 1846 01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:38,679 Speaker 1: that's going to be fine. And we know they lied 1847 01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:41,960 Speaker 1: about the casualties they suffered from this. But have they 1848 01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:47,840 Speaker 1: using extreme measures? Have they really managed to contain which 1849 01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:49,559 Speaker 1: I guess is the best way to describe it, contain 1850 01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:52,160 Speaker 1: the virus. There are some other countries that seem to 1851 01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:55,439 Speaker 1: have achieved a state of containment right now, Australia, Japan, 1852 01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:58,639 Speaker 1: South Korea. They seem to have this contained, but they're 1853 01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:01,760 Speaker 1: also not fully returned, so they have a contained but 1854 01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:05,160 Speaker 1: they haven't really fully returned to normal life either, So 1855 01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:09,240 Speaker 1: I think that's notable. But the answer is I don't. 1856 01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:14,000 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly, and I don't think anybody really 1857 01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:17,960 Speaker 1: knows exactly how true China's containment is and what they've 1858 01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:24,360 Speaker 1: done well that we could emulate over here. Eric is 1859 01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:26,479 Speaker 1: a very smart character, this Eric, he writes in the 1860 01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:31,280 Speaker 1: subject line, I love producer Mark Gee. I wonder if 1861 01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:34,920 Speaker 1: when producer Mark is looking for roll call segments that 1862 01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:37,080 Speaker 1: is going to catch his attention. Eric, you are a 1863 01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:39,800 Speaker 1: smooth operator. That was very smart, I admit, and I 1864 01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:42,320 Speaker 1: rarely include the subject line in the email, but I 1865 01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:46,040 Speaker 1: mean when I sent it to you, But Eric worked 1866 01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:47,800 Speaker 1: the system on this one. We gotta give him credit 1867 01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:50,320 Speaker 1: for it. Quick question, Buck, do you think the Salon 1868 01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:52,960 Speaker 1: case in Dallas will end up in the Supreme Court 1869 01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:56,479 Speaker 1: to determine the constitutionality of it. I hope it gets 1870 01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:59,160 Speaker 1: deemed unconstitutional to set a pressent for the next time 1871 01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:02,519 Speaker 1: the Lips try to pull this again. What are your thoughts, Eric, 1872 01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:04,960 Speaker 1: I don't it's not going to go that far. I 1873 01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:08,599 Speaker 1: think the state is likely to drop all charges against her. 1874 01:41:09,479 --> 01:41:12,599 Speaker 1: And you know we've seen this now with the Supreme 1875 01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:14,519 Speaker 1: Court decision that I actually think was the wrong one 1876 01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:18,880 Speaker 1: for guns and the transportation of legally owned firearms here 1877 01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:21,640 Speaker 1: in New York, where all they had to do was 1878 01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:24,680 Speaker 1: once they got caught with what was clearly an unconstitutional law, 1879 01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:27,000 Speaker 1: they changed the law a little bit, and then when 1880 01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:29,000 Speaker 1: it makes its way with the Supreme Court, Supreme Court 1881 01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:31,960 Speaker 1: says it's a moot point. It doesn't matter anymore. So 1882 01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:36,160 Speaker 1: if the lockdown, you know, I would think that some 1883 01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:38,439 Speaker 1: of this stuff we're seeing in lockdowns, if people sue 1884 01:41:39,479 --> 01:41:41,879 Speaker 1: when they're suing for relief, unless they can prove specific 1885 01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:44,040 Speaker 1: damages to themselves or their business, which I'm sure a 1886 01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:45,360 Speaker 1: lot of people could. But you know, this is going 1887 01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:48,200 Speaker 1: to get very complicated. But they're going to also say, well, look, 1888 01:41:48,240 --> 01:41:50,280 Speaker 1: this is no longer the law, so we don't really 1889 01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:53,840 Speaker 1: have to worry about this, do we. That seems to 1890 01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:56,320 Speaker 1: me to be at least somewhat the precedent that was 1891 01:41:56,400 --> 01:42:02,760 Speaker 1: set in that Supreme Court case you're in the freedom Hunt. 1892 01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:09,799 Speaker 1: This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. All right, rollcall 1893 01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:12,960 Speaker 1: continuing here. Buck love the show. Listen to the podcast 1894 01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:15,599 Speaker 1: every day. This is from Nate. Thank you so much, Nate. 1895 01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:20,799 Speaker 1: Here in Virginia, Comrade Northam just extended our non essential 1896 01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:24,519 Speaker 1: business shutdown for the whole state, despite fifty percent of 1897 01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:27,320 Speaker 1: Virginia's cases being limited to the counties and cities around 1898 01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:30,000 Speaker 1: DC and Richmond. I live in a small city in 1899 01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:32,719 Speaker 1: the western part of the state. We only have twenty 1900 01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:36,439 Speaker 1: confirmed cases and one hospitalization. I spoke to a friend 1901 01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:38,679 Speaker 1: whose wife is a nurse with the UVA Health System, 1902 01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:41,839 Speaker 1: and according to her, only three of the hospitals twenty 1903 01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:45,000 Speaker 1: ventilators have been used. My parents are in the high 1904 01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:47,120 Speaker 1: risk category, but even they say this has gone on 1905 01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:49,439 Speaker 1: way too long. We're all just hard of being cooped 1906 01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:52,160 Speaker 1: up in our houses. Yeah. I hear this from more 1907 01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:53,720 Speaker 1: and more people, even who are in the high risk 1908 01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:56,680 Speaker 1: category in New York too. They're saying, you, guys, we 1909 01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:58,599 Speaker 1: might be a little slower, but you who are at 1910 01:42:58,640 --> 01:43:00,519 Speaker 1: lower risk, if you want to go out there, you 1911 01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:02,639 Speaker 1: should be able to. You should be able to open 1912 01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:05,960 Speaker 1: your business. Just go to work and start to engage 1913 01:43:06,040 --> 01:43:08,000 Speaker 1: in day to day life and commerce and things like 1914 01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:10,920 Speaker 1: going to the gym. If the gym in my in 1915 01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:13,240 Speaker 1: my building where I live opened and I live in 1916 01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:15,120 Speaker 1: a building with hundreds and hundreds of residents, so the 1917 01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:17,560 Speaker 1: gym can be very busy. If the gym in my 1918 01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:22,360 Speaker 1: building opened up, I would go tomorrow. Just the truth. 1919 01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:24,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I know there's some risk or whatever, and 1920 01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:26,479 Speaker 1: you know, I try not to touch my eyes a 1921 01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:29,920 Speaker 1: lot after touching the shared equipment and stuff, But you know, 1922 01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:33,559 Speaker 1: what else are you gonna do? Because man, I'm getting 1923 01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:35,720 Speaker 1: a little slower and a little rounder every day. Right now. 1924 01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:37,280 Speaker 1: I've done I've been doing some push ups here and 1925 01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:39,080 Speaker 1: there when I can, But you know, it's tough to 1926 01:43:39,160 --> 01:43:41,400 Speaker 1: motivate through pushups when like you're just wearing sweats all 1927 01:43:41,479 --> 01:43:43,439 Speaker 1: day and the most exciting part of your day is 1928 01:43:43,479 --> 01:43:46,040 Speaker 1: picking out what you're gonna watch on TV, and you 1929 01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:47,880 Speaker 1: know what you're gonna put on the popcorn you're making, 1930 01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:52,400 Speaker 1: Slash the ice cream you're eating, Slash the cookies that 1931 01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:55,720 Speaker 1: you might be baking. You know what I mean? What 1932 01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:59,040 Speaker 1: happens to that one hundred push up challenge? I got 1933 01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:00,600 Speaker 1: about seven days in it, and then I got a 1934 01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:03,639 Speaker 1: headache and I kind of fell off then for a week. Though, 1935 01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:06,920 Speaker 1: well it's more than I did, I guess. Yeah, I mean, 1936 01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:08,759 Speaker 1: so I probably should get back to because it's supposed 1937 01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:11,960 Speaker 1: to be thirty days not seven buck Yeah, good, good point, 1938 01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:14,560 Speaker 1: good reminder. That multipodcast, you know, I got it to 1939 01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:17,200 Speaker 1: do list I got. I would put the multipodcast above 1940 01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:21,600 Speaker 1: the pushups. That's just me alright, alright, fair enough, Oh, 1941 01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:23,640 Speaker 1: Nate writes more. I didn't even see this. I get 1942 01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:27,320 Speaker 1: a laugh, perfect tibe. Whatever your producer, Mark discuss pet options. 1943 01:44:28,160 --> 01:44:31,800 Speaker 1: I've had guinea pigs for about eight years. They're very 1944 01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:34,960 Speaker 1: friendly and common. Great attributes for when you're stuck at 1945 01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:38,800 Speaker 1: home during a pandemic, plus easy to maintain. If you 1946 01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:41,519 Speaker 1: really want to be ambitious, you can get their South 1947 01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:45,000 Speaker 1: American cousin, the copy Bara, which is truly a an 1948 01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:47,840 Speaker 1: r o us a rodent of unusual size. Keep up 1949 01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:52,040 Speaker 1: the great work, shields high, Nate. Can you legally get 1950 01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:55,559 Speaker 1: a copy bar in America? I know, they're like rats 1951 01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:58,080 Speaker 1: that are the size of dogs, literally the size of dogs. 1952 01:44:58,640 --> 01:45:02,280 Speaker 1: They are rodents that are huge. Yeah, they're they do 1953 01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:04,840 Speaker 1: no googles. No, no, I don't. I don't want to know. 1954 01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:07,200 Speaker 1: They're kind of cute though, because they don't have a 1955 01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:10,560 Speaker 1: scary looking rat face. Just get a doll, yeah, or 1956 01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:13,000 Speaker 1: just get you see. Basically, you want me to get 1957 01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:16,000 Speaker 1: a subway rat, June. No, no, no, a thirty pound 1958 01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:17,880 Speaker 1: subway rat. I mean, I wouldn't be shocked if you 1959 01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:21,120 Speaker 1: saw one of those on the subway, would you? Especially? Yeah? 1960 01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:23,240 Speaker 1: I feel like you don't know what they down there. 1961 01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:26,200 Speaker 1: I've definitely seen some rats that I feel like we're 1962 01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:29,559 Speaker 1: three or four pounds, three or four. I've seen ones 1963 01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:32,760 Speaker 1: that are at least close to ten. Come on, yes, 1964 01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:34,800 Speaker 1: come on, you've never seen one on the subway would 1965 01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:37,439 Speaker 1: be absolutely I might be exaggerating a little bit, but 1966 01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:40,680 Speaker 1: like there's some huge rats down on the subway system. Yeah. Man, 1967 01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:42,920 Speaker 1: it's a perfect environment for them. They're people just throwing 1968 01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:45,400 Speaker 1: trash and food down there all the time. They can 1969 01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:48,200 Speaker 1: you know, they have no real they have no real predators. 1970 01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:50,280 Speaker 1: People start trash on the tracks as if there's not 1971 01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:53,040 Speaker 1: like a garbage can ten feet away from them. I did, 1972 01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:55,519 Speaker 1: you know? I did. I never understand why people can't 1973 01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:57,719 Speaker 1: take better, better care of their trash on the subway, 1974 01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:00,240 Speaker 1: and then they complain when the subway shuts down because 1975 01:46:00,439 --> 01:46:05,240 Speaker 1: the trash is on fire or something. Yeah, it's crazy, Jake, 1976 01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:10,080 Speaker 1: keeps it going here, Buck, you really should move to Nashville. 1977 01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:13,280 Speaker 1: You would have access to an iHeartRadio facility, no state 1978 01:46:13,360 --> 01:46:16,799 Speaker 1: income tax, and minimum state gun laws not to mention freedom. 1979 01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:18,439 Speaker 1: You could live in the middle of the city if 1980 01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:19,960 Speaker 1: you wanted to stay urban, or you could live in 1981 01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:22,280 Speaker 1: a suburban rural area if you wanted to breathe clean air, 1982 01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:25,360 Speaker 1: not paying state income tax. You could probably fly back 1983 01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:27,240 Speaker 1: to see your family in NYC once a month and 1984 01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:32,280 Speaker 1: still come out ahead. Jake, that is a very feasible 1985 01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:35,120 Speaker 1: and enticing plan. So don't think that that has not 1986 01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:37,719 Speaker 1: crossed my mind, especially as the New York shutdown continues 1987 01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:40,880 Speaker 1: to drag on and on. I love Nashville, great town. 1988 01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:42,840 Speaker 1: I actually just spoke to a friend yesterday out in 1989 01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:45,080 Speaker 1: Denver about trying to go out and see our friends 1990 01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:48,800 Speaker 1: at ninety three seven FM in Denver. So once the 1991 01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:50,880 Speaker 1: world opens up and I can start to travel again, 1992 01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:54,240 Speaker 1: they mean that I've been promising KLBJ Austin, and I've 1993 01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:57,840 Speaker 1: been promising and now recently ninety three seven FM Denver, 1994 01:46:57,960 --> 01:46:59,680 Speaker 1: that I'll make stops there. So those are two very 1995 01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:02,120 Speaker 1: high on the list for me. But we got we 1996 01:47:02,200 --> 01:47:03,880 Speaker 1: got a lot of places, a lot of places we 1997 01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:05,479 Speaker 1: want to visit, you know, a lot of things that 1998 01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:08,080 Speaker 1: we want to want to check out and see. I mean, 1999 01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:11,439 Speaker 1: we got WRNO in New Orleans. I love New Orleans. 2000 01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:13,519 Speaker 1: Bruster Mark, we'd go on a little, a little field 2001 01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:15,559 Speaker 1: trip down there. Check that out. Yeah, as long as 2002 01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:18,200 Speaker 1: you're taking producer Mark with you, I'm okay with all 2003 01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:21,360 Speaker 1: of us. Yeah. I've never even been in Nebraska. Kfab 2004 01:47:21,640 --> 01:47:25,679 Speaker 1: in Omaha, Nebraska. Love to check out the k KFAB folks. 2005 01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:29,240 Speaker 1: They've been loyal Team buck listeners for years. We got 2006 01:47:29,320 --> 01:47:33,480 Speaker 1: so many We've got so many places. WHP and Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. 2007 01:47:33,960 --> 01:47:36,960 Speaker 1: Wa WHP has been with us since the beginning of 2008 01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:40,960 Speaker 1: this show. They were early buck Leavers and so that's 2009 01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:43,960 Speaker 1: old school Team Buck there as well. So you know 2010 01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:48,360 Speaker 1: we've got waeb Allantown Bethlehem, Pennsylvania another great station that. 2011 01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:49,800 Speaker 1: I mean, these are all places I want to go 2012 01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:52,160 Speaker 1: visit and promising to do it for a while, but 2013 01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:54,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's tough when the planes are all shut down. 2014 01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:58,360 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna make it happen. I'm gonna make it happen. JJ. 2015 01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:01,680 Speaker 1: Those who believe in the sacredness of a government's right 2016 01:48:01,720 --> 01:48:03,760 Speaker 1: to supreme power is a belief that the government is 2017 01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:06,559 Speaker 1: a benevolent parent who will make you live in a warm, 2018 01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:09,760 Speaker 1: predict protected bubble with no cares or worries. They are 2019 01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:13,160 Speaker 1: perpetual children, deluding themselves that they're giving up their choices 2020 01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:16,080 Speaker 1: for the greater good, afraid of the consequences of people 2021 01:48:16,160 --> 01:48:18,840 Speaker 1: allowed to make their own choices. I don't think I 2022 01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:21,560 Speaker 1: have much to add to that. Thanks, JJ, team, have 2023 01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:24,000 Speaker 1: a fantastic weekend. Shields High