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Speaker 1: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian. I love him. I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 1: You're both big.

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Speaker 2: Job the cook, Duffy A Brecker.

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Speaker 3: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 3: You are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 1: That's shock.

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Speaker 4: Oh great to have you with us on a Wednesday,

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Speaker 4: the first of February. The year twenty twenty three is

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Speaker 4: episode three eighty five of the Anak and Florian Podcast,

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Speaker 4: and we are thrilled to be joined today. I don't

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Speaker 4: know if you're aging in reverse, but you're definitely getting

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Speaker 4: more handsome. The number four ranked UFC Welterway contender, but

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Speaker 4: low remember the name Muhammad. You're at the gym right now,

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Speaker 4: young La on the caller, you look like a million bucks.

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Speaker 1: My brother, dude, man, you're here, my second favorite Anni brother. Ever,

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Speaker 1: it is like the best thing. You know.

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Speaker 4: My twin who you host remember the show with, has

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Speaker 4: often said to people that he has met along the

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Speaker 4: way in the UFC. I hope I don't come across

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Speaker 4: as disingenuous, because I probably not only sound like my

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Speaker 4: twin brother, but we say the same things. We think

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Speaker 4: the same things, so we're not sort of being complimentary

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Speaker 4: just for the sake of being complimentary.

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Speaker 2: So you just finished training though.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just got some aspiring day here.

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Speaker 5: You just missed Jim three.

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Speaker 1: He was over here.

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Speaker 5: Gerald was out here, came down from Wisconsin. So it

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Speaker 5: was a fun little time on Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: That was pretty funny when you went on the Joe

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Speaker 4: Rogan experience and you didn't necessarily mention Gerald Murgschard as

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Speaker 4: an elite grappling training partner, and he went actually pretty

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Speaker 4: good on social media.

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Speaker 1: Dude, it was like heartbreak.

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Speaker 5: I tell people all the time, like when you're in

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Speaker 5: that mindset you're talking to Joe Rogan, you're getting nervous.

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Speaker 5: I meant to say I'm not a black belt because

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Speaker 5: I'm not a black belt. So I'd like to say, like,

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Speaker 5: I'm not even a black belt. I'm beating these black belts,

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Speaker 5: these great jiu jitsu guys. Jerald, I said my father

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Speaker 5: to Jarald Darrel's demand, I've learned a million times more

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Speaker 5: than I would I ever learned from anybody else. Jerald's

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Speaker 5: like my coach, my brother definitely want to be here

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Speaker 5: with him.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure that any athlete has gotten more love

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Speaker 4: on the Anakin Florian podcast YouTube channel over the years

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Speaker 4: than Gerald Murchard. You know, he knows where his bread

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Speaker 4: is butter. We talk about him being a great analyst. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: he's been prominently featured on remember the show. We got

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Speaker 4: a lot of love for GM three across the board.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 5: And like I said, people look at him and there

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Speaker 5: they don't understand how good he really is.

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Speaker 1: Just a book of knowledge.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, steps up that he fights the best of the

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Speaker 5: best of these new upcomers, like you don't care who

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Speaker 5: they put in front of, like dude demand dudes a

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Speaker 5: monster and these fans you just start respecting them more.

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Speaker 4: History is going to look back fondly upon everything that

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Speaker 4: Jerald Meurchhard has accomplished. Same can be said for Neil

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Speaker 4: Magni and other guys who I think a lot of

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Speaker 4: their success in some part is rooted in longevity and

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Speaker 4: answering yes all the time. All right, so we're talking

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Speaker 4: to you on Wednesday. You just finished training. How would

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Speaker 4: today differ from a Wednesday? If you were smack dab

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Speaker 4: in the middle of training camp for a specific opponent.

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Speaker 1: The spiral would be a lot harder.

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Speaker 5: So right now it's more technique based I did earlier.

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Speaker 5: Then it's more so now just working on Jared Old,

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Speaker 5: helping him out for his upcoming fight that he got

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Speaker 5: coming up. So I'm mimicking his opponent a little bit,

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Speaker 1: But if it's my guy, if I got a fight.

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Speaker 5: Coming up, however soon it is, he would adjust his

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Speaker 5: way of sparring, his way of fighting me. That's why

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Speaker 5: I said, it's like, no matter what style, I'm going

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Speaker 5: And then general you get better at doing being a

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Speaker 1: Let me see maybe that'll work for me.

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Speaker 5: And then I go into my fight with a new tool,

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Speaker 4: All right, well, speaking of new weapons, everything about Balah

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Speaker 4: Muhammad essentially has evolved, right the social media, the style.

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Speaker 4: but everything about you, your fight game. But I want

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Speaker 4: to go back to January nineteenth, twenty nineteen. My twin

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Speaker 4: brother likes to remind people that you haven't lost a

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Speaker 4: last time you lost a fight. It came against Jeff Neil,

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Speaker 4: I believe was the first uftually live event on ESPN.

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Speaker 2: What do you remember.

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Speaker 4: About that time in your life, about your preparation, that

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Speaker 1: Just a different mindset.

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Speaker 5: I think I went into that fight and that mindset

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Speaker 5: And it gets to the third round and you're still

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Speaker 5: the in the third round, like just light boxing, light boxing,

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Speaker 5: and I was doing, oh man, I was just gonna

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Speaker 2: Boom gave a head.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, what the heck? Say what a liar? Uh?

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Speaker 5: But no, it was just I think, like I said,

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Speaker 5: those losses helped build me up to what I am today.

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Speaker 5: Every single loss I've had, every single moment I've been down.

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Speaker 5: It's only made me stronger. It made me change the

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Speaker 5: way I've looked at fights and studying fights. So I

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Speaker 5: perfect trajectory of what I need to do in every

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Speaker 1: I went down there after that fight, trained with Jeff Neil,

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Speaker 5: It's safe because I want to see what these gyms

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Speaker 5: I don't have too much of an ego to go

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Speaker 5: guy blah blah blah, like all right, well, let me

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Speaker 1: And I think that I've done that and it's only

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Speaker 4: It is just remarkable, whether I'm your friend or not,

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Speaker 4: He was in your corner for the win over Sean Brady.

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Speaker 4: I don't have to tell you he is no longer

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Speaker 4: Kashev's first title defense in Perth. I would imagine he's

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Speaker 4: not going to have a future your role with Team Muhammad.

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Speaker 4: But given the fact that you said he had so

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Speaker 4: much value on fight night, is it out of the

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Speaker 4: there omnipresent during training camp, but just show up on

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Speaker 4: fight night for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope so.

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Speaker 5: Like I would definitely would want that because the energy,

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Speaker 5: like I said, he brings to the locker room, to

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Speaker 5: it's you just have the whole different confidence to you.

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Speaker 5: And like I would message him now even recently when

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Speaker 1: And he would respond back.

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Speaker 5: And the way he breaks down fights is different as well,

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Speaker 1: He messaged me and I was like, hey, I see

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Speaker 5: paying attention to that, work on that while you're into gym.

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Speaker 5: Have one of these guys put you in the gates

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Speaker 5: in that way. So the knowledge that he brings is endless.

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Speaker 5: And if he just showed me one little thing or

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Speaker 1: If I know I'm talking to HYBIEB and he's like, hey,

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Speaker 4: It is interesting to hear you say that, even for

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Speaker 4: hear you delve into that. All right, So, Gilbert Burns,

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Speaker 4: Kamar Usman, Bala Muhammad, are you all represented by Ali Abdelaziz?

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Speaker 4: So I didn't necessarily plan on having this conversation today.

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Speaker 4: This is not in my notes, but that would seem

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Speaker 4: to me to be a conflict of interest. Now you

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Speaker 4: I just don't know how he can serve three elite

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Speaker 4: to me that he could affect optimally serve all three

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Speaker 4: Gilbert can't right now right But I don't know, man,

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Speaker 4: It seems a little bit messy to me. And you

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Speaker 4: I understand.

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Speaker 5: For me, I like try to put myself in other

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Speaker 5: dealt with it already before when before I thought Luke

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Speaker 5: it was supposed to be me against Jamayav and then

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Speaker 5: Gilbert I Ali represents me, Gilbert and Luke and then

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Speaker 5: and I'm like, I don't care what they have.

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Speaker 1: They're not my teammates.

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Speaker 5: So if you tell Gilbert that I'm having it, obviously

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Speaker 4: Is Kobe UFC top rank welterweight contender Bellow Muhammad with

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Speaker 5: I'm not asking for pay viewpoints. I'm saying, give me Kobe,

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Speaker 4: To my It looks like we just lost Balau Muhammad

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Speaker 4: The only thing I failed to get into with him was, oh,

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think Who's fine, if I'm looking at it.

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Speaker 5: He outstruck him on the feet, he broke him mentally,

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what's hurting Leon.

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Speaker 5: And he's coming out now trying to talk all his

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Speaker 5: yah YadA. But who's my don't care, who's my here

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Speaker 5: path was.

435
00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,560
Speaker 4: And if I'm Palaw Muhammad, I'm just looking for clarity

436
00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,399
Speaker 4: one way or the other. Just let this be a

437
00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,720
Speaker 4: clean result, a clear winner, and then we can get

438
00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,879
Speaker 4: to all the big things that inevitably lie ahead for you.

439
00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:54,680
Speaker 4: But I hope you get the Kobe Comington fight. I

440
00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,400
Speaker 4: really hope it's on the Ultimate Fighter. I appreciate your time,

441
00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,399
Speaker 4: my brother, and I look forward to big things the

442
00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,240
Speaker 4: rest of the winds only twenty three and beyond, my man,

443
00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:01,960
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank.

444
00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,800
Speaker 1: You, brother, appreciate you. I got say there.

445
00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,000
Speaker 4: He is Chicago's finest below. Muhammad actually has a law

446
00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,280
Speaker 4: degree from the University of Illinois. That was sort of

447
00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:11,639
Speaker 4: one of the things that is going to end up

448
00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,040
Speaker 4: on the cutting room floor. Like, I wonder if at

449
00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,800
Speaker 4: what point do you really like punt on.

450
00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,320
Speaker 2: Being a lawyer? If you're below Muhammad, you know, you know,

451
00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:18,680
Speaker 2: I went.

452
00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,080
Speaker 1: Pretty school too, you know, I went to law school. Tillo.

453
00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could see you in a courtroom any day

454
00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,080
Speaker 4: of the week. I mean that looks that's a pretty

455
00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:25,840
Speaker 4: good setting for you.

456
00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:27,120
Speaker 2: I would think a courtroom.

457
00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, uh, there's too many lawyers already in

458
00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,320
Speaker 3: the world though, So when you get a political science major.

459
00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,200
Speaker 3: I mean, as my dad said, when I graduated, he goes, now.

460
00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,400
Speaker 1: What are you going to do? Like, I mean, there's

461
00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,159
Speaker 1: really nothing. You've got to go to law school.

462
00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,920
Speaker 3: So yeah, I went to law school, but was never

463
00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,399
Speaker 3: an attorney.

464
00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:45,960
Speaker 2: All right, Well, if you don't know that voice.

465
00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,240
Speaker 4: He is the head coach founder of Fordist MMA in Dallas, Texas, USA,

466
00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,160
Speaker 4: one of the best corner met and coaches in all

467
00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,440
Speaker 4: of combat sports. I actually believe you could realize success

468
00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,560
Speaker 4: coaching defense in the NFL if that was your chosen craft.

469
00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,119
Speaker 4: The Great Safe Sude is with us, the fucking General. Well,

470
00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,359
Speaker 4: it's good to have you. I wanted one on one today.

471
00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,040
Speaker 4: No Kenflow, he actually has a PFL conflict. But I

472
00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,520
Speaker 4: need twenty minutes with the General all to myself. It's

473
00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:08,000
Speaker 4: good to see it.

474
00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:08,440
Speaker 2: How you doing.

475
00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,040
Speaker 3: Listen, Jay, when you wear that fucking shirt, you can

476
00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,200
Speaker 3: have a power of my whatever you need, you just

477
00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,040
Speaker 3: let me know you got when you're wearing that home

478
00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:16,639
Speaker 3: team shirt.

479
00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,840
Speaker 1: Man, he's just getting me pumped up already.

480
00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:20,960
Speaker 4: All right, Well, I'm going to try not to hit

481
00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,960
Speaker 4: you too hard today. But you have said to me

482
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,440
Speaker 4: in the past privately that once you produce a UFC champion,

483
00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,360
Speaker 4: you may not stick around all that long thereafter, And

484
00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:36,119
Speaker 4: hopefully all of your Fortu MMA brethren aren't necessarily ingesting this. No,

485
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,400
Speaker 4: I say that tongue in cheek. But now you get

486
00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,159
Speaker 4: your first UFC title as a head coach courtesy of

487
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,200
Speaker 4: Brandon Moreno, yes, it comes in a somewhat unorthodox way.

488
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,199
Speaker 4: But upon reflection, what are your whole thoughts on the

489
00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,880
Speaker 4: manner in which your first UFC championship materialized.

490
00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,040
Speaker 3: Well, I was talking to Ryan Span about this yesterday,

491
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 3: and the reality is that the brand and fight had

492
00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,760
Speaker 3: a lot of different components. But in some ways, you know,

493
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,600
Speaker 3: that's like, this is my eightieth UFC win. And I

494
00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,520
Speaker 3: said that on Aeriel and I've been in that corner

495
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,439
Speaker 3: a lot of times, and I appreciate you, know your

496
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,520
Speaker 3: kind words, and you've always supported me and ever since.

497
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,680
Speaker 1: Day one, and I've got to acknowledge that you're the man.

498
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 1: But there was a lot of pressure for this fight,

499
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,160
Speaker 1: because when are you going to go in.

500
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 3: A title fight where you have a fourth fourth fight

501
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,400
Speaker 3: where there one one and one in every.

502
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,200
Speaker 1: Razor clote, every fight.

503
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:35,160
Speaker 3: So and so that you know, and then the circumstances

504
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:39,119
Speaker 3: obviously were you know, weren't perfect for anybody. So to

505
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 3: come in there on you know, just barely six weeks

506
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 3: and have to get everything organized, there was actually probably

507
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,200
Speaker 3: more pressure on this situation than there would be for

508
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,679
Speaker 3: me if I take Ryan or Jeff or one of

509
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 3: these guys, because that'll be their first title fight. It

510
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,399
Speaker 3: won't be a quadrillogy.

511
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and so, and it won't be

512
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 1: in real and it won't be with all.

513
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:08,679
Speaker 3: So the pressure from Brandon's fight and the gravity of

514
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 3: it and how big it was and an enemy territory

515
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 3: and then you know, obviously Figgy knew him so well.

516
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 3: So when I was crafting the strategy and thinking about

517
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 3: all that, you know, I was got to think about

518
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 3: Figgy knows every little thing about Brandon.

519
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 1: How do we get Brandon to.

520
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 3: Do things differently in a way to kind of just

521
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 3: because I believe Brandon was a better fighter, and I

522
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 3: believe that we could prove it pretty easily, and to

523
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 3: get that all done was huge. And to get it

524
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 3: all done fairly cleanly, to be honest, you know, those

525
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,199
Speaker 3: guys are lucky, man, because now I have that experience,

526
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 3: and you know, and for our strategy to work and

527
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,400
Speaker 3: for Brandon to listen to make the adjustments he did.

528
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 1: He's a great student.

529
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 3: And for us to dominate the fourth fight so big,

530
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 3: it was great. And look, championships are good for everybody

531
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 3: because they raise the stakes for everybody. They make everybody better,

532
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 3: and winning makes everybody better and it solves everything. So

533
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 3: it doesn't really matter who it is, or how it is.

534
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 1: Or what it is.

535
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the situation, and that title fight will probably

536
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 3: be one of the hardest title fights that you could

537
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 3: coach because of all the factors.

538
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, you put it well as usual, and whatever

539
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 4: happens with Jeff Neil or Ryan Span or the next

540
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 4: guy walking through those doors, no one can ever take

541
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,239
Speaker 4: this on disputed UFC title away from Brandon Moreno and

542
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 4: from you as a coach. So I congratulate you on that.

543
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 4: And again, there's so much that I could get into,

544
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 4: but I get a lot of credit for the sacrifice

545
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 4: I make as a commentator, being away from my family

546
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 4: one hundred nights a year to pursue what I love

547
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 4: to do, but doesn't even begin to describe what a

548
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,640
Speaker 4: coach's sacrifice is. Can you just set up real quickly

549
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 4: what your December was to hold with your family compared

550
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 4: to what it ended up being going back and forth

551
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 4: from Vegas to Texas and all that.

552
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just talking to my wife about this,

553
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,479
Speaker 3: you know, and that's the reason why you alluded to it, Like,

554
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 3: you know, hey, how much longer? Right? I've been doing

555
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 3: this since two thousand and six full time was an athlete,

556
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 3: fought from six so nine. Under Greg Jackson lived in

557
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 3: Alburker who traveled a lot. We would go to Vegas

558
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 3: all the time. Obviously things have exploded and changed. But

559
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 3: with the UFC's growth also comes cards. Almost every week,

560
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 3: multiple fighters on cards. Everything has grown exponentially. So you know,

561
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 3: we used to leave maybe once a month, or you know,

562
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 3: you know maybe on a crazy month, we'd leave twice

563
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 3: a month. Now I'm gone every week. And last year

564
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 3: was a huge year for us. We won gym in

565
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 3: the year. You know, it was a great year, and

566
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 3: it was a busy year. We had tons of big fights,

567
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 3: tons of wins, but there were huge fights, rank fights.

568
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: So once December came around, I had got done.

569
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 3: Doing the show and I was like, man, I'm going

570
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 3: to be home for about you know, five weeks, four

571
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 3: or five weeks, and I just was looking forward to

572
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 3: it so much. John I was like my kids and

573
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 3: my daughter, you know, I got daughters, you know, the

574
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 3: feeling and making the plans and hey dad, we're going

575
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 3: to do this, We're going to do that and X

576
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 3: y Z. And so when this came and this opportunity came,

577
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 3: you know, when I looked at it, I realized that

578
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 3: not only was I not going to be home, but

579
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 3: I was going to have to do more than I've

580
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,959
Speaker 3: ever done. So, man, I was gone every week, you know,

581
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 3: I mean all that whole five weeks was dedicated to

582
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 3: being in Dallas for the first half of the week,

583
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 3: and then I would fly to Vegas on Wednesday and we.

584
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: Would do Brandon's barring on Wednesday night.

585
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 3: Thursday, we would train Friday, We would train Friday, you know,

586
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 3: Thursday night, Friday morning, Saturday morning, and then I would

587
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 3: get on a plane and fly back and then come

588
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 3: back and coach my team. And I was trying to

589
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 3: do and I was trying to coach my team while

590
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 3: I was here twice as much as I normally would

591
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 3: to make up for not being here on the second

592
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 3: half of the week. So that was front loading all

593
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 3: that work and really just doing both. But you know,

594
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 3: john ended up working out. And not only did it

595
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 3: end up working out, but you grow, you go, you

596
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 3: go through these hard times and you grow through that

597
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 3: through that space, man, and you just you know, you

598
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 3: expand yourself and you're capable of more. And I knew

599
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 3: I could take it on and do it. But I

600
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: knew Brandon's fight was going to require a lot, and

601
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 3: we made sure all of us coaches.

602
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 1: That were involved put a lot into that camp to

603
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: make sure he was prepared. And I'm proud of that.

604
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 4: And I know how embedded you were with the entirety

605
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 4: of that Brandon Moreno camp, which essentially is a family.

606
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 4: And however close you and Brandon were before the fight,

607
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 4: I got to imagine going through that title fight together

608
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 4: has brought you just exponentially closer to that end. He

609
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 4: has talked a lot about how much you helped him

610
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 4: as far as his mental game is concerned. That says

611
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 4: nothing of just your mind for the physical and everything

612
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 4: else that's going on. But we did get a lot

613
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 4: of questions on Twitter about your future in terms of

614
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 4: working with Brandon Moreno. Obviously you do have Matt Schnell,

615
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 4: who is a ranked flyweight. I'd imagine there's a wealth

616
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 4: of flyweights and bandam weights in Dallas were he to

617
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 4: go there. So what can you tell our listeners and

618
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 4: viewers about the future between you and in the flyway champ?

619
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just uh, I just talked to him the

620
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 3: other day, and I mean, he's excited man, you know,

621
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 3: and he's proud of what we did. And he's like, man, Coach,

622
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 3: I think we did great. I said, I think we

623
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 3: did great too. I mean, we had an amazing execution.

624
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 3: And it's been nothing but love. And he's excited about

625
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 3: coming and training and he's going to come to Dallas

626
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 3: and he wants to come and and you know, Brandon's

627
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 3: just one of those guys.

628
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: Man, He's just a good character guy, you know.

629
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 3: And he recognized the sacrifice that I made and he

630
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 3: brought it up at the press conference. You know, he

631
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 3: said coach was coming. He doesn't want credit, but he

632
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 3: was coming every week. He said, now I got to

633
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 3: go to Dallas and and uh and give him some work.

634
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm looking forward to that. But like I

635
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 3: was saying last week, you know, I just want that

636
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 3: kid to chill for a while.

637
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: Man. And you know, our gym is.

638
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 3: So big and so built up and has so much,

639
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 3: you know, so much going on. We don't need to

640
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 3: prede around a guy and say, hey, hey, hey, look

641
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 3: look we got a champire. Hey, let's take a bunch

642
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 3: of pictures and throw my Hey, hey.

643
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: Geez all, Central, let's go, Let's go we don't do

644
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:02,959
Speaker 1: shit like that.

645
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 3: And let the fucking guy have his time, Let him

646
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 3: hang out with his family, let him hang out with

647
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 3: his daughters.

648
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: That guy's got three daughters.

649
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, he's got he's got, he's you know,

650
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 3: he also went through the stress and the hardship and

651
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 3: all that pressure that Brandon had.

652
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: He had so much pressure on him for that fight.

653
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Speaker 1: It was such a big fight.

654
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Speaker 3: Like I previously stated, I mean, there was so much

655
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Speaker 3: behind that fight that Let the guy just fucking decompress, man.

656
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 3: And when he's ready to train, and you know, he

657
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 3: won't fight until the summer. You know, champs don't fight

658
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: every two months, and we'll figure it out. We'll probably

659
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 3: be Pantosia and you know, we'll start getting ready. You know,

660
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 3: he comes from a great team. Obviously they've had a

661
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Speaker 3: history together. But I think Brandon's a lot different of

662
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Speaker 3: a fighter now and.

663
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Speaker 1: And we'll have fun, man.

664
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Speaker 3: But yeah, uh that when that time comes, we will

665
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Speaker 3: cross that bridge.

666
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Speaker 1: But we've we've had that conversation already a few times.

667
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Speaker 4: Certainly, decompression, though, should be the buzz word, and I

668
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 4: don't think anybody would be surprised to see him return

669
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Speaker 4: for Internet National Flight week, in all likelihood it will

670
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Speaker 4: be a Leschandre Pantosia, and I think you had no

671
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 4: choice backstage but to sort of intervene there. We have

672
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 4: this trend seemingly of athletes hanging out backstage, whether they're

673
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 4: backups or otherwise, and seems like the champion, the newly

674
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 4: minted champion, can't even get a shower before he has

675
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 4: his next opponent like up in his mug. Yeah, it

676
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,959
Speaker 4: seemed like finally you had seen too much. We all

677
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 4: respect Pahoompa and Pantosia, but this seemed like a little

678
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 4: bit too forceful, and finally you sort of said, bro,

679
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Speaker 4: you got a chill.

680
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got a chill. Man. I love Mahooma.

681
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Speaker 3: He is a fucking g of a coach. He doesn't

682
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Speaker 3: get enough credit. I think he is one of the

683
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 3: heartbeats of that team down there, and he that guy

684
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Speaker 3: seem every week man. I mean, he's got a close

685
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 3: bond with his athletes. He is a great dude, a

686
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 3: great coach, and I want to give him a shout out.

687
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Speaker 3: He was not around when that.

688
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Speaker 1: Happened, and I think maybe Pantosia had a couple of drinks.

689
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Speaker 3: It was night, you know, I mean, I don't know

690
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: what the situation was it ended up. You know, at

691
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Speaker 3: first was he just you know, it was very lovable,

692
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Speaker 3: but you know, Brandon's talked about it before.

693
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Speaker 1: He just kept on asking for a date and we'll win,

694
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Speaker 1: We'll win and win.

695
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 3: It's like, dude, we just walked out of medical like literally,

696
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Speaker 3: and Brandon hurt his knee and you know we were

697
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 3: talking about that and I mean he's kind of limping around,

698
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Speaker 3: and you know, it's like man, dog. At first, it

699
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 3: was cool to hug the respect Pantoja deserves it. Pantosia

700
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Speaker 3: is a g you know, obviously he's got the wins over.

701
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Speaker 3: I mean, all that's fine, but it was like, man,

702
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 3: he's asking for a date and he just kept going and

703
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 3: Brandon is so Brandon is such a respectful guy, and

704
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Speaker 3: you know, to that end, you know, all the antics

705
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 3: and everybody's every Brandon just a classy dude, and he

706
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 3: was just keeping it classy. And I just want and

707
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 3: I think Pantosia, I wasn't trying to be disrespectful.

708
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Speaker 1: It just was.

709
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Speaker 3: It was what it was. But it was just time

710
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 3: for me to peel him off with Hey, man, you know,

711
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 3: let's go.

712
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Speaker 1: So yeah, no big deal.

713
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Speaker 3: I mean, those guys are going to meet and you know,

714
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Speaker 3: but it ain't gonna be fucking next week.

715
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying, guy's got to recover and he's

716
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:00,959
Speaker 1: he's got to get a his body right and all

717
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Speaker 1: the rest.

718
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Speaker 4: So the general save side with us here on the

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Speaker 4: nacan Florian podcast, MMA Junkies Gym of the Year for

720
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty two four to MMA, I mean, dude, I

721
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Speaker 4: could give you my Robert Fallis Cornerman of the Year,

722
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Speaker 4: like every fucking year, but it would just not be

723
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Speaker 4: objective enough. Okay, you've won it like three times I read.

724
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Speaker 1: I wait, but I'm waiting for the JA Trophy. I

725
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Speaker 1: need a JA Trophy for the for the den right.

726
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Speaker 2: We'll make that happen.

727
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Speaker 1: I need some hardware, all right.

728
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Speaker 4: We got a few more things that I do want

729
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Speaker 4: to get to with you before I let you fly

730
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Speaker 4: a couple of your higher profile fighters with fights coming up,

731
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Speaker 4: and then we'll get to your television career. Jeff Neil

732
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Speaker 4: has regained his momentum after a couple of trying years

733
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Speaker 4: health wise and otherwise. For a while, many have suggested

734
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Speaker 4: that this is your best hope to realize a UFC

735
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Speaker 4: championship for a homegrown foresce MMA athlete. He gets Shavcott

736
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Speaker 4: Rockmanov March fourth at UFC two eighty five, guy who

737
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 4: a lot of people feels the uncrowned champion. I mean, gosh,

738
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Speaker 4: my contemporaries talk about this guy like he is the

739
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 4: fucking coming. What can you tell us about Jeff's preparation

740
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 4: and the overall magnitude of that fight, Mike March Forward.

741
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Speaker 3: Well, look, Chefcat is a guy that nobody wants to

742
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Speaker 3: fight and a piggyback off what Blall said.

743
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: You know, I mean that weltroy division is just unreal.

744
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 3: Those guys man, the games they're playing up there, and

745
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 3: the ring around the posey, I mean, they sation on

746
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 3: Twitter that is just a straight up lie.

747
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: Oh, I'll fight anyone. All this and that.

748
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: I got the I got the emails, I got the text, I.

749
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: Got everything to prove it.

750
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Speaker 3: I just would never go there because I don't think

751
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: it's classy and I just don't think it's a place

752
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 3: for a coach. So uh yeah, But you know, Thelall's

753
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 3: frustrations are are are well warranted because all these guys

754
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: turned down Jeff too. And you know, Jeff obviously has

755
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 3: a win over Blall, and I love the hell out

756
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 3: of the Wall, respect him. He's coming train with us,

757
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 3: and he's not a guy that we want to fight again.

758
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: Balall just deserves his you know where he's at. But

759
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Speaker 3: Jeff also with the winover.

760
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Speaker 1: Blall, like you know, and it was a dominant win.

761
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Speaker 3: So I mean, look, Jeff had almost freaking died, he

762
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 3: had a couple of bad fights. Ballall beat those guy's

763
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: credit to Blall, but there's an argument to be made

764
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 3: for new blood up there. But you've got the guys

765
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 3: that are just hanging around and hanging around and trying

766
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: to stay relevant, and they've got big names, and really

767
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 3: that's what people care about. Nobody gives a shit about

768
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: guys like Jeff yet except for the hardcore people who

769
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 3: understand and know the sport. But you know, you know,

770
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Speaker 3: I mean, I understand what UFC's trying to do. They've

771
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 3: got to get the pay per views. I mean, I

772
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 3: get I understand everybody's perspective. So on that end, we

773
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 3: were here, we are fighting a guy like Shaftcat, who

774
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 3: was calling Jeff out on Twitter.

775
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: It probably wasn't really a scheft cat.

776
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: It was probably his manager, and because I don't think

777
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 3: shaft Cat was would do that. But so Jeff was like, hey,

778
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 3: fuck it, I'm gonna fight this guy. And I said

779
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 3: all right, and he said, calls me and he goes,

780
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to meet him now or later, so whatever,

781
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 3: And you know, I respect that about Jeff, and I'm like, Jeff,

782
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 3: this is a super hard fight.

783
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: It's risky.

784
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, I really think he should fight Gilbert.

785
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: You know, they were right by each other in the rankings,

786
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 3: but you know, Gilbert didn't say a word when Jeff

787
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 3: was calling him out that whole time. And then on

788
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 3: the flip side, but credit to Gilbert. Gilbert already fought

789
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: Humsa and he's going to use that. He's going to

790
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 3: ride that out. So he fought Magni and now he's

791
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 3: fighting Masvidal, and you know Blall said is true, those

792
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 3: are easy fights for him, odds wise, but credit to him.

793
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: He did fight Humzad.

794
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 3: So that being said, I told Jeff, I was like, look,

795
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 3: this is your fight.

796
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: This is that fight for you. You know, if.

797
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 3: Jeff goes in there and takes care of business against Chefka.

798
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 3: There is no real argument there again, I mean, because

799
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 3: he already has a win over Ballall and then Gilbert's

800
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 3: gonna have to face either Ballall or Jeff or somebody

801
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 3: before he gets back in the title picture.

802
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: And obviously I don't blame Gilbert.

803
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 3: He wants Leon to win because he has a loss

804
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 3: against us Mom and they are friends too, So there's

805
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 3: some strategy being played there by everybody, and there's no

806
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 3: easy fights, and the only way that you're going to

807
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 3: get to the top and that division is by big

808
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 3: explosive finishes like the Luk fight that Jeff had where

809
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 3: it's just like unreal. And so now he's going to

810
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 3: try to do that agains Schafcat, which is a huge test.

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Speaker 1: Shaft Cat is very very good.

812
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 3: He's undefeated, he's never lost, but there's nowhere to run

813
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 3: in that welshweight division.

814
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: There's nowhere to go. You can't win this fight and

815
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: hide out and camp out.

816
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 3: You know, the Vicente win was big, but Jeff's not

817
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 3: going to get a title shot off that, right, and

818
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 3: and I know that, and he knows that, so he's

819
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: going to have to He's going to have to go

820
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 3: in there and do something amazing again, which he's did

821
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Speaker 3: it against against you know, many people in the uyfs.

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Speaker 1: He said, the Perry fight, the Vicente.

823
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 3: Fight, the Camacho fight, the guys had some crazy, unreal knockouts.

824
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Speaker 3: And I think that if he can pull that off again,

825
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 3: you know, people are going to start calling from that

826
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Speaker 3: title shot for him, and Jeff can do it. Man,

827
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Speaker 3: He's you know, I would put Jeff against any.

828
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Speaker 1: Anybody, and but shaft Cat.

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Speaker 3: It might be the hardest fight in the division if

830
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Speaker 3: Humzat is going to middleweight from what I'm hearing, and

831
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Speaker 3: you know we'll see.

832
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 4: But yeah, man, like if you think about Jamal hill Path, right,

833
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 4: how quickly it can happen for somebody who is new blood,

834
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 4: who has a finishing style, a crowd pleasing style, right,

835
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 4: Because it is not out of the Rouman possibility. And

836
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 4: I'm not just saying this because the general's here. If

837
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 4: Jeff Neil can finish Shavkott Rochmanov, who is essentially the

838
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 4: cookieman in the division, it's not out of the Rumman

839
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 4: possibility that he gets a title fight. And that's why

840
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 4: for Balao Muhammad, the Gilbert Burns fight just doesn't make

841
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 4: a whole lot of sense because it's not an eliminator.

842
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 4: It really isn't you know. Yeah, all right, well that's

843
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 4: the Jeff Neil stuff. It's going to be very interesting.

844
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 4: It's a fascinating fight. I know it got delayed a

845
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 4: little bit, but I'm glad that it held together. How

846
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 4: about Ryan Span, I mean, another guy who obviously, I

847
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 4: think at times has been a victim of lofty expectation.

848
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 4: But another main event February twenty fifth against another wicked,

849
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 4: dangerous guy in Nikiita Krilov, another underappreciated guy and Spam

850
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 4: one of the guys near the top poy I don't

851
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 4: believe his faced Jamal Hill. So obviously another huge fight

852
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Speaker 4: here for Ryan Spam. What are your thoughts on him

853
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 4: and ultimately the two hundred and five pound vision.

854
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you look at Ryan Span.

855
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 3: He's just got, you know, an incredible skills, athleticism, power

856
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 3: on both hands.

857
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: He's very very well balanced.

858
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 3: But he's going to have to get through a guy

859
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 3: like Nikita who you know you saw Glover on his

860
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 3: title run. Glover fought him to a decision or a

861
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 3: split decision. I mean they had a very close fight.

862
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 3: That was Glover and he was on the ground with

863
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 3: Glover three rounds, and I mean that was Glover when

864
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 3: he was climbing up and he was very dangerous. Nikita

865
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 3: is no game, and I mean he's a guy that

866
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 3: can hang in there for five rounds and be there

867
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 3: with his experience. He's very balanced. He's got a good

868
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 3: kicking attack, good wrestling, good jiu jitsu. He's not a

869
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 3: guy that you can take lightly. But again, he's a

870
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: guy that you're going to have to try to go

871
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 3: through if you want to get to the upper echelant

872
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 3: of that two hundred and five pound division. But I

873
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 3: feel like if Ryan, you know, back to what I

874
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 3: was saying about Jeff, if Ryan has another knockout like

875
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: you did it with Dom, something that clean and impressive

876
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 3: and that quick, you know, don't be surprised if you

877
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 3: don't see him up there. You know, there was some

878
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 3: movement there and we got a phone call about a

879
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 3: pretty potentially big matchup when all that stuff happened with

880
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: Glover and eck Alive and yahd So, I mean, it won't.

881
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: Get into it too much, but yeah, man, the UFC

882
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: is all about dude. It's all about producing.

883
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 3: When you going down to the lights, and you produce

884
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 3: beautiful fights and big knockouts. You get moved up because

885
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 3: people want to see that stuff. And Mick Maynard's all

886
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 3: over that man.

887
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: That guy works. He never stops working. Mick Maynard.

888
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 3: Your fighter gets done fighting the very next day. What

889
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 3: do you think about seven weeks from now? What do

890
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 3: you think about this and that? And I mean he

891
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 3: just keeps it moving, you know, and and then it's

892
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 3: good and fighters like that too, you know. So and

893
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 3: light headyweight's a little bit different obviously than we're than welterweight.

894
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 3: You know, Sean's has got to untangle all that all

895
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 3: that crap that's going on at welter Wade. Every division

896
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 3: is different. So but that's the thing about Mick. I mean,

897
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 3: he is always right when the fight's over, he's on

898
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 3: the phone. I mean, and he's a guy that likes

899
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 3: to get new blood in there. And and you know

900
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 3: that fight, Jamal came from the contender, and this is

901
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: the evolution of the sport and watching the UFC build

902
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 3: people from a younger, you know, a different platform and

903
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 3: the contender feed him in and showing you know, Glover

904
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 3: obviously being the elder statesman going against the young guy

905
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,959
Speaker 3: from the Contender. So yeah, it's just and it's heart

906
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 3: wrenching for us old timers to see a guy like

907
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 3: Glover not win and Showgun not win. And you know,

908
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 3: I mean, we us people been in MMA since you know,

909
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 3: two thousand and two thousand and five. We're always going

910
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 3: to root for those people. But this is just it's

911
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 3: just like watching your parents get old.

912
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: Man. It doesn't feel good, but it's a part of life,

913
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: you know, And.

914
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 3: I think that's just a part of this time right

915
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 3: now in MMA, watching some of the greats and the

916
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 3: Golden Age kind of you know, fall on the sword

917
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 3: a little, and it's just going to keep happening.

918
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 4: But dude, this fan base turns over like every two

919
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 4: or three years, right, so much so the people were

920
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 4: bemoaning the fact that Johnny Walker got a louder pop

921
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 4: than Showgun, who had the way in in Rio, And

922
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 4: that's just kind of the way it is.

923
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 2: All right, before we let you go two quick ones.

924
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 4: First of all, I need a dark horse fighter from

925
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 4: Ford to MMA or two or three, right, I know

926
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 4: this is tough to hand pick a fighter or two,

927
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 4: but a dark horse fighter from Ford toa MMA doesn't

928
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 4: necessarily have to be in the UFC. But I'm looking

929
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 4: for a fighter that is not in the UFC rankings

930
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 4: right now that.

931
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: Can be heard from Kennedy.

932
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: Don't tell me Kennedy and Zechik who's not ranked.

933
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 3: Kennedy's not ranked, And I'm going to tell you it's

934
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 3: like watching a baby crawl and then start to dog

935
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 3: and then start to run, and then soon that's going

936
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 3: to be a full sprint. And you know, I raised

937
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: him up, like almost all of mine, from nothing. I

938
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 3: mean when he came in the gym, you know, he

939
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 3: just lost his mom. God rest her soul. But she

940
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 3: came and sat down and I remember she she said,

941
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 3: he doesn't know anything but work on this, work on

942
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 3: my son, work on him.

943
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: And I said, all right, And you know, taught him

944
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: out of.

945
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 3: Punch, taught him how to move, taught him out of

946
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 3: level change, you know, start explaining stuff to him. And

947
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 3: now to see him, you know, if he got the

948
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 3: main event in that kouts Lava fighter, they're like, hey,

949
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 3: you guys are the main event. He gets call make

950
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 3: and see if we can make it five rounds. We're

951
00:39:59,200 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 3: in the back.

952
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: We're in the back.

953
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 3: This is two hours before the fight, called making see

954
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 3: if he can make it five rounds, because it'll be

955
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 3: better for me.

956
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 1: I saw.

957
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 3: I said, you want the money, you know, like you

958
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 3: want more money. He said, oh uh yeah whatever, Like

959
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 3: I mean he was. He was so tuned in. He

960
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 3: was like, hey, you know, let's go five like and

961
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 3: let me tell you something. You got a guy backstage

962
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 3: who's a light heavyweight, that size of a man who

963
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 3: is willing to, you know, fight an extra ten minutes

964
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 3: against a monster like Ewan Kuzulabah. Yeah. I mean, you know,

965
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 3: when you're in the back, man, you see the real stuff.

966
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 3: You see what what the core is. You see what

967
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 3: the fabric is of your athlete, and you know them

968
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 3: and you know, sometimes they're scared, they overcome it.

969
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes the fear overtakes them and they lose. Sometimes they shine,

970
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: you know.

971
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 3: But to see him say, oh yeah, call Mick, he said,

972
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 3: call Mack and see if they can make it and

973
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 3: slap it.

974
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: He goes, I don't think they're going to do it.

975
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 3: But then he texts me Now, so he's growing up

976
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 3: now to place man where he just just like put

977
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: me in the water, coach.

978
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: I just want to I just want to be in

979
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 1: the water so I can keep swimming.

980
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 3: And man, once that guy gets where I think he's going,

981
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 3: he's going to be a problem for everybody.

982
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 2: It's amazing.

983
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 4: It's amazing to hear you say that his frame obviously

984
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 4: is great and again that jab obviously when you have

985
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 4: that length in that division.

986
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to hear about his mom.

987
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 4: I remember having a conversation with him early on about

988
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 4: his mom, who I believe had als and he was

989
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 4: supporting her financially in other ways, right, So I'm sorry

990
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 4: to hear that. All right, before we let you go

991
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 4: general safe so with us here on the Anic and

992
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 4: Flooring Podcast UFC Breakdown, Budding television star. They don't let

993
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 4: you where you're at your hat on TV, but just

994
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 4: still look great. So obviously I have thought you to

995
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 4: be very capable, whether it comes to being a coach

996
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 4: on a broadcast or being featured analytically on a show.

997
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 4: So how have you enjoyed that experience and do you

998
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 4: feel like you're long for this media gamer?

999
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 2: Not so much?

1000
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate it, John, and I've just got to

1001
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: tell all the viewers just because I have to tell

1002
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: this story. Twenty thirteen, John Nick running me down in

1003
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: the tunnel. Please wait, wait, how do you say your

1004
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: name correctly? I said, it's safe.

1005
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 3: So I want to get that right, John Annick ten

1006
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 3: years ago, ten years.

1007
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: Of perfect pronunciation.

1008
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 3: John ad been in the game busting his ass enunciating

1009
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 3: beautifully and I mean, I'll never forget that, right and

1010
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 3: h and I always appreciated that. So I like to

1011
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: bring up that story because it's true because everybody sees

1012
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 3: the preparation now, but the preparation has been going on forever.

1013
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 3: And on that note, it's a lot of preparation, man,

1014
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 3: doing the show. That doing the show has been a

1015
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 3: you know, a big endeavor, but one that I really enjoyed.

1016
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 3: And you know, I was I never saw myself in

1017
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 3: that role. And when the UFC came to me and

1018
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 3: asked me to do it, uh, you know, I was obviously,

1019
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 3: you know, thrilled and thought it was a big compliment,

1020
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 3: but I didn't wasn't sure if it was something I

1021
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 3: really wanted to do.

1022
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: I've been traveling so much.

1023
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 3: But I'll tell you the best part of it, John,

1024
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 3: is that it just made me a way better coach

1025
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 3: because I'm insistently looking at the best, looking at what

1026
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 3: they do, how they do it, picking up all the

1027
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 3: little details with the film study. Watching Champions, It's been

1028
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 3: really fun. I mean, and you know, I was in

1029
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: Rio and Jamal Hill comes up to me. He said, man,

1030
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 3: that breakdown was so good. I love that breakdown. It's

1031
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 3: striking coach.

1032
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: Hey, man, you know, we really liked it, he said.

1033
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 3: Jamal's like, don't give away all my secrets, and I

1034
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 3: thought that was cute.

1035
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: Then in New York, I was.

1036
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 3: In New York and Radio City and as he came

1037
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 3: up to me and said, hey, He's like.

1038
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: Man, I got to talk to you, bro. He said that.

1039
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 3: He goes, I know I do all that shit, but

1040
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 3: the way that you explained it, man. Then he had

1041
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 3: it on his phone and he's like, I got to

1042
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 3: show you this, Kevin Gasla Melbow that you had broken

1043
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 3: down And he was shown it to me and explain

1044
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 3: it to me. Wow.

1045
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: Put a smile on my face.

1046
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 3: So, you know, to have all these guys that are

1047
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 3: having fun with it and enjoying it, and the fans

1048
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 3: have been great about it and I've been getting a

1049
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 3: lot of love for it. So it's what we do, man,

1050
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 3: and usually we don't do it with suit and tie

1051
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 3: in the studio.

1052
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: We do it in the gym, but right, it's what

1053
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: we do, you know.

1054
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 4: And to have your work acknowledged by perhaps the most

1055
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 4: sophisticated striker in UFC history, is there a lot of

1056
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 4: Sony that's pretty heavy stuff. But I can't say that

1057
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 4: I'm surprised he's the general Safe Soude four to seven A.

1058
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 4: Congrats on all your success, my man, and great to

1059
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 4: have a front row seat for all of it. And

1060
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 4: obviously it's wheels up pretty soon. You are not going

1061
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 4: to be in Perth, Australia, Is that correct?

1062
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 1: No? Are you going to Perth?

1063
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1064
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 4: Bro, I don't even want to tell you about my itinerary.

1065
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 4: Three flights right the middle leg hopefully Mick Maynard's with me.

1066
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 4: The middle of the three flights from Houston to Sydney.

1067
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 4: Seventeen hours, forty five minutes, Man aungguesst I've ever been

1068
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 4: on a plane was fifteen fifty five. We got seventeen

1069
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 4: forty five next week.

1070
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 3: I'm done straight Sydney, straight through, and it was seventeen

1071
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 3: I think because it's a forty five minute play from

1072
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 3: here to Houston, So you know, what are you doing quantas.

1073
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: What are you flying?

1074
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1075
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 4: I think it might be quantas, but either way, I

1076
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 4: got a lot of providers to prepare. Yeah, so I

1077
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 4: got a lot a lot of work to do on

1078
00:44:58,560 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 4: the front end.

1079
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: So you'll give it.

1080
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 2: But hey, man, hey, congratulations, thank you for the time.

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Speaker 2: I'll see in a few weeks.

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Speaker 1: All right, Absolutely talk to sin John there.

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Speaker 4: He is the fucking General Safe Sode with us here

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Speaker 4: on the anak Implorian podcast. Really interesting stuff and Kennedy

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Speaker 4: and Zetchiku if you don't know, really transition from the

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Speaker 4: workforce to fighting to support his mom. And I didn't

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Speaker 4: know that she had passed away, so that kind of

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Speaker 4: hit me pretty heavily there in the middle of that interview.

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Speaker 4: But I love the General Safe Sode. I love that

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Speaker 4: he's getting some television work and just has done a

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Speaker 4: tremendous job. And I remember obviously meeting him in twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 4: I believe he was in Brazil cornering Damon Jackson at

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Speaker 4: the time, if I'm not mistaken. But I also remember

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Speaker 4: vividly that conversation about him talking about maybe walking away

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Speaker 4: when he produces a UFC champion. And even though Moreno

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Speaker 4: doesn't necessarily check that box completely. It certainly does in

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Speaker 4: a lot of respects and I'm happy for safe. And

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Speaker 4: then one quick thing on Bala Muhammad. And I know

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Speaker 4: we sort of shortchanged Bully there at the end because

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Speaker 4: we had a little bit of a rocky transition between guests.

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Speaker 4: But there were two things that I just wanted to mention.

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Speaker 4: First of all, just the social media grind. And I

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Speaker 4: know Blau doesn't have children, but when he started, remember

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Speaker 4: the show with my twin brother on the Anakin Florian

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Speaker 4: podcast YouTube channel, he might have had fifteen thousand Instagram

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Speaker 4: followers and look at him now, hundreds of thousands. And

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Speaker 4: that stuff doesn't happen by accident, right, there's work involved. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: you get a big spike when you headline a UFC

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Speaker 4: event or when you fight in the UFC, but that

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Speaker 4: takes communication with people who are embedded in the MMA

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Speaker 4: Twitter sphere or on Instagram, Earning that respect from people

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Speaker 4: and having a collaboration with fans. That takes time, and

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Speaker 4: I just wanted to give Blau credit for that. And

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Speaker 4: I will just say a leab De la Ziz is

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Speaker 4: the fucking man like, I absolutely love that guy. But

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Speaker 4: if I had him on these airwaves, you could be sure.

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Speaker 4: The first question I would ask would be, how do

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Speaker 4: you navigate when you have three guys near the top

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Speaker 4: of a division? You know, would you ever for a

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Speaker 4: singular negotiation, give Balal off or give a well Wade

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Speaker 4: off for one single fight negotiation to make sure that

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Speaker 4: they got that fight. It's a tricky situation when you're

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Speaker 4: trying to serve a lot of high profile athletes. But

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Speaker 4: I think all things considered, Ali does it about as

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Speaker 4: well as anybody else. Yeah, Cody Marro telling me that

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Speaker 4: Balal has gained almost on undred thousand followers in the

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Speaker 4: last twelve months alone. He's got a great fucking co

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Speaker 4: host in Boston. And all right, thank you all for

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Speaker 4: watching the show today. Hope you enjoy the interviews. We

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Speaker 4: will be back next week, of course, with a full

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Speaker 4: preview and predictions for UFC two eighty four. Mikasha Versus Volkanovsky,

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Speaker 4: Brian Petri and Kenny Florian. We'll have six predictions for

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Speaker 4: you for UFC two eighty four. We'll talk to Sean

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Speaker 4: Shean and we will also get into the Tom Brady

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Speaker 4: retirement news and anything else going on in the MMA stratosphere.

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Speaker 2: Next week.

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Speaker 4: Pass is also live in which we look back at

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Speaker 4: a fight from the UFC archives. All right, thank you

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Speaker 4: to save Sude and Blom Muhammad. We will talk to

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Speaker 4: you all next week in advance of UFC to eighty

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Speaker 4: four thanks to my Thees scene producer Cody Merrill.

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Speaker 2: I'm John Anak. We'll talk to you soon here later