Speaker 1: Welcome to Jay dot il, a production of I Heart Radio. Hi. Hi,
Speaker 1: everybody's welcome to Jay dot Elder Podcast. Uh, it is
Speaker 1: a glorious day to be a black woman here. Feel
Speaker 1: good right. I feel like my my feet have been
Speaker 1: beside you, even though they haven't. I feel like I
Speaker 1: have had a wonderful afternoon of just stimuli. I'm titulated.
Speaker 1: So welcome to Jay dot Elder Podcast, and I'm hoping
Speaker 1: that we titulate you all today. I'm here with my
Speaker 1: sister friends, Ada graydon Donza. I just feel like you
Speaker 1: would saying Diddy for everybody you know me. I was
Speaker 1: just at the I'm sorry, hello everyone, how are you? Yes,
Speaker 1: we're going to titty late, let's do it, and and
Speaker 1: then tentifying like yes sink Claire as they say a
Speaker 1: DC A tenny ball. I'm sorry, Okay, I'm sorry. We
Speaker 1: are having a good day. Okay. I hope that you
Speaker 1: all are having a good day too. It's funny like
Speaker 1: this is the way we want to feel. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we want to feel like joyful and energetic and you know,
Speaker 1: kind of reason to smile. It's funny though that we
Speaker 1: will suck around on this Beyonce's Internet, and out of
Speaker 1: all the fantastic things that there are, people are you know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of positive energy, a lot of positive
Speaker 1: things to say. We say, we look at these things
Speaker 1: and scroll right on buy and wait for some chaos,
Speaker 1: wait for some train wrecks, for some foolishness. Really like, seriously,
Speaker 1: something that a fool would do, you know, to make
Speaker 1: the king laugh. You know, that's what we're waiting for.
Speaker 1: And I'm wondering, I'm wondering why we do that. We
Speaker 1: have a guest today that is going to talk about
Speaker 1: these things with us eight Ja Graden Dance. If you'd
Speaker 1: be so kind, y'all know that I if you listen
Speaker 1: to show, you know, I'd be on the internet, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'd be on the social media's and you know, and
Speaker 1: certainly it is, you know, not a place that doesn't
Speaker 1: have more than enough charismatic people who will pull in
Speaker 1: the vibe and before you know it, they like all
Speaker 1: the way social media is famous. But they are absolutely
Speaker 1: and one hundred percent probably mad tick And the worst
Speaker 1: problematic earth that you can do is then tell their
Speaker 1: loyal and I mean fanatical audience that they are a problem.
Speaker 1: And there you have it, it becomes a war outside.
Speaker 1: No man is safe safe, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So anyway, I want to introduce y'all to our guests
Speaker 1: for today. His name is f D Signifier. He is
Speaker 1: a former educator and researcher turned content creator who specializes
Speaker 1: in analyzing black culture and black experience through media analysis.
Speaker 1: His previous experience is working with boys and men and
Speaker 1: researching behavioral health. Has continued in his work discussing issues
Speaker 1: of gender and masculinity in his content. So y'all know,
Speaker 1: he gets really talked about real bad on the people's
Speaker 1: social media's you know what I'm saying, and they come
Speaker 1: for you. Finally, I want y'all to know right now
Speaker 1: that he is a loving husband and father of two
Speaker 1: black boys. Him invested interest in contributing to a better
Speaker 1: world where his boys can feel safe, actualized You're gonna
Speaker 1: underline that, and fully realized humans underlining quote unquote strong
Speaker 1: black men. In between content creation, FD is a media
Speaker 1: junkie and Chicago Bears fan, which you want to talk
Speaker 1: about because we and a gamer. So anyway, I heard
Speaker 1: this guy and he really, hands down has one of
Speaker 1: the best analysis that I've seen on the people's internet,
Speaker 1: and they can't come for him and call him all
Speaker 1: the names because he fits into all of the stereotypical
Speaker 1: uh you know boxes married and surprise though they still do.
Speaker 1: But welcome, welcome, welcome FD signifier to Jay by Area.
Speaker 1: I love the name. Thank you so much. Don't even though,
Speaker 1: like I gotta get the nerves out, especially after you
Speaker 1: read them a little bio. I'm like, oh shit, I'm
Speaker 1: really here? Are we cursing? Yeah? Okay, cool. We didn't
Speaker 1: have a whole titty roundtable moment to get into the
Speaker 1: it's a teddy round table. So yeah, this is this
Speaker 1: is dope. This is uh a dream come true in
Speaker 1: a weird way. Like I'm gonna tell when I tell
Speaker 1: my boys that I was on a zoom call with
Speaker 1: Jill Scott. No, no shade of a lady in the room.
Speaker 1: But I'm just keeping the room. You know. It is
Speaker 1: Harry's done. You know it was it was, it was twisted,
Speaker 1: it roped up. I was like, I need to get
Speaker 1: these curls crimping for on this podcast. The elbows are moisturized.
Speaker 1: I got my most medium shirt. You know what I'm saying, Like, no,
Speaker 1: thank you so yes, yeah, So this is just like
Speaker 1: a wild experience to be here to talk my ship
Speaker 1: to people that I admire, this is this is crazy
Speaker 1: for me. So I'm very appreciative to be here and
Speaker 1: hope that I can contribute what y'all want from my presence.
Speaker 1: This is her social media is as wild is a
Speaker 1: wild experience. So we need some navigation. Oh man, uh
Speaker 1: just leave like like real talk. I am twittering less,
Speaker 1: uh in twenty twenty three, especially on Elon must twitter
Speaker 1: because after you get a certain amount of followers or whatever,
Speaker 1: and especially if you talk about certain things and you
Speaker 1: in different populations of a political thought, like one tweet
Speaker 1: that you're not thinking too hard about will haunt you
Speaker 1: for a whole week, you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 1: and be don cost you a couple of thousand subs
Speaker 1: or a couple of nights arguing with people. So we
Speaker 1: I'm it, Twitter hacks your brain. So I'm trying to
Speaker 1: reduce my presence there, you know, but you still follow
Speaker 1: me as if they sitting on Twitter. You at. One
Speaker 1: of the things that I always find interesting about the
Speaker 1: way that you you look at things is like, you know,
Speaker 1: you try to find this kind of fair way to
Speaker 1: discuss this right and get into all the different ways
Speaker 1: that people can be drawn in. And one of the
Speaker 1: things that you know that that hurts us, particularly as
Speaker 1: Black people, is that we are very much kind of
Speaker 1: tied into charismatic people. You know, we talk about out
Speaker 1: Malcolm X and mL K and you know, these leaders
Speaker 1: and the movement icons, and we look at this moment
Speaker 1: and I think we're very emotionally attached to this. And
Speaker 1: so do you see like a connection between what are
Speaker 1: the desires of black people and how do we get
Speaker 1: kind of pulled into these moments with these specific type
Speaker 1: of personalities online Because you guys, remember it used to
Speaker 1: be like a melody, you know, well, I mean I
Speaker 1: think that may still be a very big part of it.
Speaker 1: You know, you've got the pastors and and you know why,
Speaker 1: you know that people come back over and over and
Speaker 1: over again. There's a cadence in the rhythm that's still
Speaker 1: you know, people, So like, I'm not I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: to throw as minimal shade to people as possible, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just say a particular Pan African political figure
Speaker 1: that has popped up a lot, I'm sure you all
Speaker 1: he does that very will, and that is the key
Speaker 1: I would say to his prominence, Um he's been on
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club a couple of times. Um he's building a school.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he is right. So like he has an
Speaker 1: excellent like he embodies that that like rhythm of the pastor.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That was a thing for
Speaker 1: Kevin Samuel's where it's like there's an image, especially for
Speaker 1: black men that we kind of desire this cadence in
Speaker 1: this image. To answer your question, I think black folks
Speaker 1: just want to see like health and wellness in front
Speaker 1: of us. We want to see success. Who want to
Speaker 1: see blackness that hasn't been ruined by white supremacy. You
Speaker 1: know what I experience. And so if you show them that,
Speaker 1: even if it's not quite real, even if it's a
Speaker 1: little even if the message is a little thrown off,
Speaker 1: you get attached to the image because that image is
Speaker 1: you know, that's the thing that gets us going, because
Speaker 1: that's maybe the thing we want to pursue. You go
Speaker 1: back to Fred Hampton, you know what I mean. You
Speaker 1: ever hear Fred Hampton talk, He sounds like a pastor.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's a rhythment. Maybe it's in our bones.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's in the melan I don't know, but it's
Speaker 1: in there, so we gravitate to that. But it's also
Speaker 1: you know, to me, honestly, it just seems like the
Speaker 1: uglier the energy is behind something, you know, whatever it
Speaker 1: is you're talking about, whether you're talking about sports or
Speaker 1: you're talking about music or faith, whatever it is, it
Speaker 1: seems like the uglier the energy, the more people are
Speaker 1: attracted to it. And you know, I don't know about
Speaker 1: the rest of y'all, but that definitely concerns me because
Speaker 1: we're seeing things like toxic relationships, and we're watching it
Speaker 1: and it is fascinating. It's fascinating in the middle of
Speaker 1: the street, Yes, it's very fascinating, right right, Like nobody
Speaker 1: wants that, right right, I mean, we want to consume it.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't think anybody wants to be fighting in
Speaker 1: the middle of the street, but I don't know. There's
Speaker 1: it's hard to look away. And so then one thing
Speaker 1: I talk about a lot in my content is how
Speaker 1: so much of our consumption of media now is controlled
Speaker 1: by algorithmsifier thank you. I don't know how deep, y'all
Speaker 1: I get into it, but like, like YouTube, Twitter, TikTok Facebook.
Speaker 1: Once upon a time, you just had an account and
Speaker 1: you connected your friends to your account or the people
Speaker 1: you like to watch your account, and that's what showed
Speaker 1: up when you opened up the app. And ten or
Speaker 1: so years ago, a little more than that, probably people
Speaker 1: started understanding algorithmically based consumption models for these apps were
Speaker 1: better for keeping up engagement, aka better for keeping you scrolling,
Speaker 1: to keep you looking, to keep you on the app.
Speaker 1: And so the most engaging thing for humans across the
Speaker 1: board tends to be the abhorrent, the scary, the disgusting,
Speaker 1: the repulse of the violent, the things that like, it's
Speaker 1: a proven thing in research that you will sit and
Speaker 1: look at something that brings you that makes you feel
Speaker 1: anger or discussed longer than something that makes you feel joy.
Speaker 1: Like that's just they've they've tested this, and so world
Speaker 1: Star exists, right, Like it's why a site like world
Speaker 1: Star can exist. World Star was probably where they figured
Speaker 1: it out, Like world Star started before all of this stuff.
Speaker 1: It algorithm is popping world Star wars like yo fight
Speaker 1: videos and and and upfront about it. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: where this is kind of what we're here for. And
Speaker 1: and really with that the whole reality of that from
Speaker 1: like a from science, okay, like just from the data, okay,
Speaker 1: knowing that as black people we have to kind of
Speaker 1: enter into this space like hyper aware, knowing that this
Speaker 1: is what is happening to us. And what's messed up
Speaker 1: about is that social media has been a place where
Speaker 1: we really have benefited from some very good information. So
Speaker 1: what I find is really difficult is or especially to
Speaker 1: explain to other black folks whom I love, is that, Okay, listen,
Speaker 1: just because you believe a thing right, you believe this
Speaker 1: thing right, and you look at content that validates this
Speaker 1: thing you believe. Every time you look at that content,
Speaker 1: you're getting more and more of it, and so in
Speaker 1: your mind, you're thinking, I'm getting my belief validated through
Speaker 1: the information that I'm taking in. So I'm researched, I've
Speaker 1: looked at all of the you know, I've heard it
Speaker 1: from five different sources. When the app is basically saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: you like strawberries, I'm just going to send you fifty
Speaker 1: different types of strawberry content so that you start to
Speaker 1: believe that strawberries is the preferred fruit for the entire
Speaker 1: you know country, everybody likes strawberries. No one's allergic, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It was like I think that
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's like this thing
Speaker 1: where we we go to a go there for something
Speaker 1: and it has now become really our Achilles heel, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and soul. Anyway, I just love
Speaker 1: you to kind of speak to some of that energy
Speaker 1: as we're as we're out here trying to get conscious.
Speaker 1: Like okay, we're out here trying to get woked it
Speaker 1: and trying to figure stuff out. You ain't gonna do
Speaker 1: it through social media, not without a real You better
Speaker 1: hit them encyclopedias back up. That's that's where my like,
Speaker 1: if you want to ask you my my intellectual foundation started.
Speaker 1: It was being a nerdy little boy who had that
Speaker 1: full own box set of all the books in the basement.
Speaker 1: So it's the Nintendo, it was, it was my cousin's
Speaker 1: DJ tables, and it was Encyclopedia. That was our culture
Speaker 1: and our time. So yeah, all of us had that,
Speaker 1: but no, honey, I had our through them. Okay, girl,
Speaker 1: I keep trying to tell you it was bougie the
Speaker 1: whole thing. Neither don't get it. I had the whole thing,
Speaker 1: and I'm from North Philly, North Side. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: I was Chicago suburbs. I own the relative boogeness of
Speaker 1: my experience. You know it is, we enjoy it. It's
Speaker 1: a Chicago thing to a degree. People don't talk about
Speaker 1: that part of Chicago. Chicago old black money. Got some
Speaker 1: old black money in Chicago, right right, Which we'll circle
Speaker 1: back to that in a second. Maybe. Yeah. My point
Speaker 1: was to amplify what Age was just saying. If I
Speaker 1: search something on Google or better yet, on one YouTube,
Speaker 1: especially YouTube tracks what I searched for, and it gives
Speaker 1: me what it thinks is its best like answers to
Speaker 1: that question, and then it tracks which one I click on,
Speaker 1: and then it uses that information to say, okay, this
Speaker 1: person is you know, it pulls all It's like it's
Speaker 1: like one of the Matrix movie where they pulling off
Speaker 1: the screens in the one spot. It does that to
Speaker 1: kind of say, okay, we know now collecting data on
Speaker 1: this user, and we're going to surround this user with
Speaker 1: things that will keep it watching. And just as as
Speaker 1: Agent said, this tricks us into thinking that this is
Speaker 1: all of YouTube, this is the world, This is the
Speaker 1: information that everybody's seeing. But no, that is information that
Speaker 1: has been curated for you to see, not for accuracy
Speaker 1: or for your intellectual enhancement, but for you to keep
Speaker 1: watching and so it will catch it will catch tendencies,
Speaker 1: and it's and it's got two billion users, so it's
Speaker 1: seen enough for us before to say, Okay, this person
Speaker 1: clicked this, this, and this, so we know exactly what
Speaker 1: to bring to the table and what it brings to
Speaker 1: the table. If it's some bullshit, if it's some wild shit,
Speaker 1: if it knows it places your vulnerabilities and it'll keep
Speaker 1: you clicking. Like the thing I talked about a lot
Speaker 1: in one of my videos when I was talking about
Speaker 1: the manisphere, is that my research. And this is not
Speaker 1: like I am an academic researcher by trade, but this
Speaker 1: is also this is YouTube the time, right, But the
Speaker 1: research I've done, the people I'll talk to the Minister
Speaker 1: of People will come at between like thirteen and twenty
Speaker 1: two and they'll give you six months to two years.
Speaker 1: The average person, and what happens is they have a breakup,
Speaker 1: they get cheated on, they get dumped, they strike out
Speaker 1: on a girl they really liked, they feel like they
Speaker 1: got played, they got you know whatever, and they start
Speaker 1: they'll just search how to talk the girls. And so
Speaker 1: how to talk the girls might start with some decent,
Speaker 1: you know, some decent advice. Yo, be yourself and you know,
Speaker 1: make sure you wear your best outfit. Don't be trying
Speaker 1: to talk to girls when when you ask you whatever,
Speaker 1: it'll start with that. But like two or three more
Speaker 1: clicks in this. You know women, you wouldn't be so hard.
Speaker 1: Women were more submissive. And if black women didn't do
Speaker 1: this and didn't do that. And once you start and
Speaker 1: you're vulnerable in that moment because you're usually coming from
Speaker 1: a place of lacking pain, and you hear people in
Speaker 1: your ear telling you exactly what you want to hear,
Speaker 1: it's a very it's a grooming process, and boys are
Speaker 1: actually groomed from early on. That's why that statement I
Speaker 1: made at the beginning, not just strong black men, because
Speaker 1: while I aspire to and desire that from myself and
Speaker 1: my sons, that sets a precedent for boys to be
Speaker 1: groomed into certain attitudes and certain world views that are
Speaker 1: harmful not just to other people if they don't do
Speaker 1: it right, but to their own emotional wellness. And so
Speaker 1: if you like been in that for a long time
Speaker 1: and you start getting them videos telling you it's all
Speaker 1: the women's fault, man, that'll suck you right in. I
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. It's in our brains, it's
Speaker 1: in our systems. We see the results. You know. It's
Speaker 1: the same thing with the q onin folks, any type
Speaker 1: of nonsense when people are vulnerable, the nonsense will that
Speaker 1: feels that vulnerability, that makes them feel whole again, They're
Speaker 1: gonna seek that out like a drug in the algorithm,
Speaker 1: just a computer. I don't care. It just knows you
Speaker 1: can keep watching these ads. That's all it cares about.
Speaker 1: More real talk after the break. So while you're out
Speaker 1: there trying to kind of counteract us as a creator, right,
Speaker 1: and you're out there saying, okay, I'm pointing this out
Speaker 1: to y'all and specifically about the minisphere, which when you
Speaker 1: answer this, I would love for you to like just
Speaker 1: kind of give our listeners a little bit of a
Speaker 1: background and what that is. But I think, um, so
Speaker 1: while you're out there doing that, what is the reaction
Speaker 1: from from your own folk black folk men and women, Like,
Speaker 1: what is this reaction like when you say, Hey, this
Speaker 1: is what you're listening to is playing to your vulnerability.
Speaker 1: There's a problem. What is the feedback? It's a Bill Kurve, right,
Speaker 1: So it's like a variety of different responses. The first
Speaker 1: thing I want to put out there is that you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you I assume that you all have
Speaker 1: experienced in real life like good brothers. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We all know, we all know a few
Speaker 1: of them dudes. But like in my experience, most of
Speaker 1: the men in my life and that I've been around,
Speaker 1: wouldn't set foot in the manisphere, wouldn't be caught dead.
Speaker 1: Like I said it in one of my videos, these
Speaker 1: dudes are low key, really losers. But they but they're
Speaker 1: they're charged up, like they're propped up by the algorithms.
Speaker 1: They're propped up because they make for good content. Literally hilarious. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very exactly. You know, train wrecks. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: going to use some language that clowns. I'm trying. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to be careful of my in my language about
Speaker 1: ableis and mental illness. Clown clown niggels. I feel good
Speaker 1: about that one. And so a clown nigga can't be
Speaker 1: the center of attention anywhere but the Internet. But if
Speaker 1: he gets in the Internet and he's surrounded by the
Speaker 1: clown niggas, he becomes like clown clown, he becomes Kevin Samuels,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, if you know Kevin
Speaker 1: Samuels's background, you know, and this is not to disparage
Speaker 1: the dead for those who are sensitive to that, but
Speaker 1: if you if you research his background, that man was
Speaker 1: a buffoon and a loser for most of his life
Speaker 1: until he embarrassed a black woman and collected a lot
Speaker 1: of clowns. You know what I'm saying. And some of
Speaker 1: his clowns where other black women. Let's be let's keep
Speaker 1: a buck, keep it a buck, um, right right, right.
Speaker 1: So to answer your question, I have a lot of
Speaker 1: black men, the vast I would say. If I have
Speaker 1: four hundred thousand some chain subscribers, I'm gonna say thirty
Speaker 1: forty percent of that as black men. And most of
Speaker 1: those men are like, I am so happy to hear
Speaker 1: somebody speaking and making me feel like I'm not crazy,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, making me feel like I'm
Speaker 1: not the only one, because you know, We're gonna be real.
Speaker 1: We're still a lot of men. Most men still operate
Speaker 1: with a traditional classically masculine persona and ideology that's tied
Speaker 1: to patriarchy, and that can be that has lots of
Speaker 1: evidence that that doesn't lead to good things in certain situations,
Speaker 1: white supremacy. You know, these these traditional gender norms are
Speaker 1: tend to be unhealthy and in their best their typhone.
Speaker 1: If there worse, they're Kevin Samuels, right, And so you know,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't expect every brother to be as
Speaker 1: deep into the leftist theory as I am. But a
Speaker 1: lot of brothers don't like how black women, especially online,
Speaker 1: talk about us and perceive us. And it's because we've
Speaker 1: allowed these Well before I used to say, it's because
Speaker 1: we've allowed these other men to speak for us on
Speaker 1: social media platforms. And what I found out after getting
Speaker 1: on here is that it's almost impossible to be a
Speaker 1: black man and gain a platform without doing that crazy shit.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because the algorithm will not
Speaker 1: reward it. I gotta go on. It's gotta be one,
Speaker 1: it's got to be more than just got be. But
Speaker 1: let's take that statement that all more of them will
Speaker 1: not reward it. And people are making a living off
Speaker 1: of the Internet. And if you don't have something that's
Speaker 1: salacious or a spirited then you're not going to make
Speaker 1: the money that you you possibly could, or at least
Speaker 1: making other people money. You gotta be able to make
Speaker 1: other people money if you ain't got that other stuff.
Speaker 1: Isn't this doubly triplely dangerous for black folk? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: like to engage in this kind of behavior. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's all those things because there and we're also
Speaker 1: furthering the perception of who we are. Yeah, yeah, we
Speaker 1: continuing that. It's it's it's a very hard So, like
Speaker 1: I got on because I did some uh I pults me.
Speaker 1: So I don't know some Michael Eric Dyson, uh some
Speaker 1: Uh what's the what's the Van Jones? I did some
Speaker 1: really good like, Hey, I'm a here's a video. I
Speaker 1: am an intelligent I mean to stand up intellectual black man.
Speaker 1: Yes I am intellectual black man that I love black
Speaker 1: women Jones. But yes, I will talk to you about race,
Speaker 1: but I won't make you feel so bad. Here's me
Speaker 1: explaining to all the things. And so like I didn't
Speaker 1: know I was doing that. I was just making videos
Speaker 1: and then but I started to see like who I
Speaker 1: was attracting with that. Now I was like, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm seeing how to split together. So my next video,
Speaker 1: I'm starting out talking about the Saint Louis Race riots
Speaker 1: first vide, I'll have to hit a million views my
Speaker 1: next video. I started out with the Saint Louis Race riots.
Speaker 1: But to kind of like say yes to you know
Speaker 1: what YA was saying. I got on by proving myself
Speaker 1: valuable to a whole different audience. And once I kind
Speaker 1: of had that in hand, I started saying, how can
Speaker 1: I serve essentially two masters? How can I bring out
Speaker 1: all this other stuff that is truly more important to
Speaker 1: me as a creator, but also make sure that algorithm
Speaker 1: respects my gangster and keeps on showing people my videos
Speaker 1: because people will have a million subscribers. But every video
Speaker 1: is a new as a news. It's like I call
Speaker 1: it a credit score. It's like a credit check. And
Speaker 1: so like, right now, I got really good credit. So
Speaker 1: if I drop a video, YouTube's like, hey, send that
Speaker 1: nigga video everywhere. If we're good, that bore good. But
Speaker 1: if I drop a couple of turns a couple of
Speaker 1: joints that don't do well people not feeling them. It's
Speaker 1: going to drop my credit score, and even if even
Speaker 1: if nobody unsubscribed to my channel, it's going to be
Speaker 1: hard for my video to reach as many people as
Speaker 1: it did if I kept that credit score up. Thus
Speaker 1: like and share. So in that mindset, there's a formula.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing that you know this. There's like it must
Speaker 1: be at least a few things that you do for
Speaker 1: Relic in every video to kind of know that this
Speaker 1: will at least get me here, right? Are there things
Speaker 1: like that something like that? Like I know, so YouTube
Speaker 1: gives you all your data and tells you about your
Speaker 1: audience or who your audience watching, what they're searching for, etc.
Speaker 1: So like, right now, my audience has been really like
Speaker 1: I made a Lauren Hill video a couple of months back,
Speaker 1: and so like people keep searching for Lauren Hill and
Speaker 1: find my video. So like the algorithms telling me, hey,
Speaker 1: making another Lauren Hill video, and I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you understand that that's not going to really work.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna trust my own instincts and then try to
Speaker 1: do like Lauren Hill all the time and lose a
Speaker 1: lot of people. So it gives you data. So yes,
Speaker 1: like my next video, the video, I got a video
Speaker 1: coming out in two weeks that's just gonna be all
Speaker 1: about drama and like a lot of what I'm talking
Speaker 1: to y'a all about, right, So I know that's gonna kill.
Speaker 1: And then after that, I'm going to talk about men's desirability,
Speaker 1: which I know I have a strong male fan base
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of women that want to learn
Speaker 1: and understand men better, So I know that video's gonna
Speaker 1: do well. After that, I'm talking about black leftist movements
Speaker 1: and black political movements from like you know, I'm explaining
Speaker 1: how Mark the King and Malcolm X are really socialists
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. That'll be good, right, the same audience,
Speaker 1: And exactly I'm gonna wait for that video, right right,
Speaker 1: you have worried about my drama videos. I'm gonna talk
Speaker 1: about these white folks thisssing me on the back end,
Speaker 1: right I know they are. But then I'm gonna come
Speaker 1: back to give you some life when I get back
Speaker 1: to this Fred Hampton, Uh the King stuff, w boys,
Speaker 1: black nationalism stuff. It's like, okay, now, I gotta pull
Speaker 1: y'all back in, because that's that's why I want to
Speaker 1: say anywhere this is mind blowing because people don't really,
Speaker 1: I don't know, people respect content creators enough to know that, Like,
Speaker 1: do y'all realize that this man just said he has
Speaker 1: already prepared for four shows, like he's a month ahead
Speaker 1: and it's more than that months? How many months? I'm
Speaker 1: four videos down right now? So four months if I
Speaker 1: release one one a month, okay, you know my and
Speaker 1: then all of that to the thing is one for
Speaker 1: the algorithm, one for the fans, one for you, hold
Speaker 1: on right, one for the did your school listen? Write
Speaker 1: it down? Down? One more time? The man has damn
Speaker 1: there half a million subscribers. That's done a year and
Speaker 1: a half. One for the algorithm, come on. Two one
Speaker 1: for the fans, one for the fans, one for you,
Speaker 1: one for you. I'm doing like I'm doing like two
Speaker 1: for the algorithm, one for the ands, and then one
Speaker 1: for me. Um And that last one is uh is
Speaker 1: a I almost don't want to say it because I
Speaker 1: just wanted to be a surprise with people. It's about
Speaker 1: a rapper. It's about a rapper that don't nobody talk
Speaker 1: about no more. But he's low key one of the
Speaker 1: most influential rappers to ever spit but like he was
Speaker 1: such a a weird, unique figure that like he just
Speaker 1: kind of disappeared. Nope, Nope. When I tell this story,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be like you right, You're right. I don't.
Speaker 1: I still like them, but because I don't like him,
Speaker 1: he's hilarious to me. But when I when I went
Speaker 1: through his story, I was like, Yo, this story is like,
Speaker 1: this is like one of the most important figures in
Speaker 1: hip hop is alive. He's still alive. He's still making
Speaker 1: music too. But you gotta wait till like March March,
Speaker 1: March April ish. That's when the show, that's when you're doing.
Speaker 1: That's when that video is going to Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I gotta get my min together. That is a beautiful planning,
Speaker 1: it is. But this is the thing, right, So, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna be righteous, I'm sorry, if you're going to
Speaker 1: even try to be righteous in these on these platforms,
Speaker 1: in these streets, you have to be very intentional. And
Speaker 1: what that has to tell you is that those who
Speaker 1: don't mean you any good are also intentional. Who if
Speaker 1: who who claim to be righteous, but everything about them
Speaker 1: says that they are feeding the algorithm. They want the
Speaker 1: algorithm to reward them. And so these are things I
Speaker 1: need to be clear on. Yeah, is this so, is
Speaker 1: this an entire world of for lack of a better phrase, sellouts.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's selling out now though, but it for
Speaker 1: different purposes. Yeah, I would say it's for the same purpose.
Speaker 1: It's just easier to do it now. And it's more
Speaker 1: like the rewards are more instant, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: can you talk about that? Can you talk about the rewards?
Speaker 1: The rewards are clout, fame, money, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and low effort like the thing that's the other thing
Speaker 1: that's crazy. So let's you know, insert I'm much again.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to not throw shave it. Insert like
Speaker 1: Raggedy Nigga here with a platform, right, you know, just
Speaker 1: putting in your head and then think about how much
Speaker 1: work I put for agencies. You've watched, You've seen how
Speaker 1: much work I'll be putting in my videos. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm writing ten thousand words scripts. I got a whole editor,
Speaker 1: I paid for per project. I got music direction from
Speaker 1: my head, I got art direction. I'm on Twitter. I'm
Speaker 1: managing like I'm doing all kinds of stuff because I
Speaker 1: know the algorithm. I gotta keep showing it's it's really
Speaker 1: on some twice as good for half as much shit.
Speaker 1: But if I was a coofye nigga that just wanted
Speaker 1: to shoot on black women, I could easily make the
Speaker 1: same amount, do the same numbers, and and with like
Speaker 1: a fraction of the effort. Like you look at you
Speaker 1: look at Kevin Samuels's rise, like he never even had
Speaker 1: decent audio, Like he never got he never figured out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but no, right he show up, he says. And the
Speaker 1: funniest thing is when you hear people say, the excuse
Speaker 1: that most folks would make for Kevin Samuels is that
Speaker 1: he just really wanted to help black people. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, He's just running black men and women
Speaker 1: to get right and get married, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Which if you, if you stretch, you could you could
Speaker 1: pull that out of his content. But what you what
Speaker 1: you realize if you do the research, is that whatever
Speaker 1: positive he was doing, what didn't nobody care? What nobody
Speaker 1: paying attention until he started embarrassing black women. And when
Speaker 1: he started embarrassing black women. Yeah, suddenly the floodgates opened
Speaker 1: for him to get more attention. He started going viral
Speaker 1: over and over again, and then he became this prophet
Speaker 1: to people. You know what I'm saying, it's like, oh
Speaker 1: were you what did you come for? When did you?
Speaker 1: When did you get there? Because he would talk bad
Speaker 1: as he would talk just as bad about black men
Speaker 1: as he did black women on at times. It's just
Speaker 1: that those pieces wouldn't always take it out of the
Speaker 1: into virility. And is this cross cultural? What I'm asking
Speaker 1: is if an Asian man did the same to Asian women,
Speaker 1: if a Latin like is it just asked the question? Yeah, sorry,
Speaker 1: it's number one? Is this cross cultural? Where it occurs?
Speaker 1: And number two, would they be as successful or are
Speaker 1: we just the most successful at this because of black
Speaker 1: women being in the target. It's it's so this a
Speaker 1: both end. So yes, it's cross cultural. However, shitting on
Speaker 1: black people is like the top tier. That's the that's
Speaker 1: the code, is it, Kobe b for that's the that's
Speaker 1: the top of the top of the food chain. One
Speaker 1: thing I realized, so within the manisphere, there are no
Speaker 1: major white figures, none of the major figures in the
Speaker 1: manisphere that have been successful over the years have been
Speaker 1: white men. They've all been South Asian. Um uh, we'll
Speaker 1: say racially yea South Asian, not East Asian. That's a
Speaker 1: very clear thing. They're a South Asian racially ambiguous, right, Well,
Speaker 1: we're talking about as a guy, one of the new guys.
Speaker 1: It's his name is Hamza. He's not as overtly toxic,
Speaker 1: but he is a South Asian man from the UK,
Speaker 1: very dark skinned, very good shape, and it's it's something
Speaker 1: about how we consume. One thing people don't think about
Speaker 1: is how everybody We talk about patriarchy in general, and
Speaker 1: understandably so we're usually thinking about how patriarchy affects women
Speaker 1: because women are usually on the receiving end of the
Speaker 1: worst effects of patriarchy. But we don't always we don't
Speaker 1: always have a good breakdown of how patriarchy is fueled
Speaker 1: by the bodies the humanity of men, and the most
Speaker 1: useful fuel is always going to be men of color,
Speaker 1: because patriarchy of a self is a white supremacist construct.
Speaker 1: So white men don't want to see other white men.
Speaker 1: We don't want to see other white men acting crazy
Speaker 1: towards their women. That ruins the mystique. We are on
Speaker 1: a pedestal, so you're not supposed to do that. You
Speaker 1: can't be doing that. So if you are a white man,
Speaker 1: you can talk crazy about and trust me, those dudes
Speaker 1: are out there, but they'll never be big because they
Speaker 1: will be like there's an internal element especially and proud
Speaker 1: boys don't do that. They do they do on the load,
Speaker 1: but we just do that doesn't make it out. There's
Speaker 1: plenty of like proud boys have done, they do on
Speaker 1: the load, but that doesn't make it. That doesn't make
Speaker 1: it out. What that doesn't go viral, that doesn't go
Speaker 1: to the top their success? Yes, what gives them? Do
Speaker 1: they get out? You know with the racism and the qcause.
Speaker 1: But for for misogyny, we have it because it has
Speaker 1: to be men of color, because misogyny is only really
Speaker 1: okay against women of color who are real them in
Speaker 1: to begin with, I can't deal with these truths. Put
Speaker 1: this to these people. No, no, seriously, listen, Oh babay,
Speaker 1: my edges are tangling because they're growing. A tan is
Speaker 1: coming in. It's so thick to see the hair growing.
Speaker 1: It's like a y and silky Jill Okay, I think
Speaker 1: I think she is shocked. Ladies and gentlemen, Jill, I
Speaker 1: think she. I don't know. We're gonna take a quick
Speaker 1: break and then we'll be right back. I want you
Speaker 1: to keep going about the humanity of men and how
Speaker 1: patriarchy really affects them as a black women, because no,
Speaker 1: seriously no, because this is something we don't talk about.
Speaker 1: There is there does seem to be to be an
Speaker 1: uptick and black men who are starting to express just
Speaker 1: how heavy this load has been. Unfortunately some of them
Speaker 1: tend to express that frustration towards black women. But help us,
Speaker 1: help us to help them or help them to make
Speaker 1: this connection as to who is really at fault for
Speaker 1: the fact that you don't feel human and that how
Speaker 1: patriarchy is really like chilling on your shoulder's head neck
Speaker 1: back on a chess daily. So let's let's be clear.
Speaker 1: The source of this problem is white supremacist capitalist patriarchy.
Speaker 1: Now us, that's your good old Bill Hooks. And some
Speaker 1: brothers hate hate on Bill Hooks. But like I ain't
Speaker 1: one of them. You know what I'm saying. Every every
Speaker 1: scholar has their flaws. Bill Hooks as less than most
Speaker 1: and gives and gave gave life when I needed it
Speaker 1: as a black man, when I was having my sons
Speaker 1: um And so it starts with that because black people
Speaker 1: were never meant to like embody these gender norms and
Speaker 1: like ideals as we strive to do. And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying you should do that. I'm I am a heterosexual man,
Speaker 1: bread winner. Now offer YouTube money. Two kids, two boys,
Speaker 1: were raising them as boys until further notice, Like I
Speaker 1: am not put pulling the classic nature of of what's
Speaker 1: it's safe is to do as a human in this country.
Speaker 1: It's safe is to just go with the flow unless
Speaker 1: you can't do it right. But what happens is we
Speaker 1: start to think, and this is something, this is a
Speaker 1: survival tactic from black people. We say, yo, you keep
Speaker 1: doing this other shit. We can't stop stop that. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. As little girls, it was you
Speaker 1: acting fast. Pull you know that skirt too short? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. The attitude is too loose, whatever
Speaker 1: it is, and that is a protective like that's a
Speaker 1: goal of protecting you, but it's an attack on your humanity,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. At the same time, and
Speaker 1: we don't always have the language to say you know,
Speaker 1: you know, big Mama didn't have the language to say, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to protect you from these streets or from
Speaker 1: those people, from the boys, whatever that little big Mama said.
Speaker 1: If you don't sit your ass down, I'm gonna get you,
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like, and so without unpacking that,
Speaker 1: these things just become regular, normal statistical stuff does. And
Speaker 1: so with boys it's worse because over time a lot
Speaker 1: of women, you all develop a you all have more
Speaker 1: opportunities to develop a critical lens on how you're treated
Speaker 1: because you're you're you're you want to survive, right, You're
Speaker 1: like trying to survive situations that I ain't. Like when
Speaker 1: my all let my wife get gass here in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: Like if the guards gotta get gassed up and I'm not,
Speaker 1: and I'm not, Like my wife will take off the garbage,
Speaker 1: but she won't get gas. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'm not even knowing that like a real man whatever,
Speaker 1: I don't do that. But I know that if somebody
Speaker 1: gonna get if I might go to the gas station
Speaker 1: get robbed, my wife might go and get robbed and
Speaker 1: kidnap you feel me, So it's a different set of risks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so women develop this critical lens there's so much
Speaker 1: out there for women to develop this critical lens um
Speaker 1: at different stages in life. There's just so much there.
Speaker 1: But for men we are kind of held to this no,
Speaker 1: but you gotta be the men. And and a real
Speaker 1: man does blank, And it's like, what if I don't
Speaker 1: do that, does that make am I no longer real man?
Speaker 1: And from that unfill so much trauma. And because of
Speaker 1: the nature of emotions among men, we can't even unpack
Speaker 1: that trauma. So we drink it, we smoke it, we
Speaker 1: beat it, you know what I mean, we take it
Speaker 1: out on y'all. Um. Like the thing a thing that
Speaker 1: every every brother, So two things that almost every brother
Speaker 1: you talk to will tell you is he probably he
Speaker 1: was told he had to stop crying, and a woman
Speaker 1: probably told him, and a woman probably told him ye.
Speaker 1: And then he probably lost his virginity well before he
Speaker 1: was ready to be engaged in sexual activity to a
Speaker 1: woman that was way older than him. And though and
Speaker 1: and and like, so you have men and so these
Speaker 1: are like foundational experiences that black men, in particular, we
Speaker 1: are more um exposed to these risk factors. Um, And
Speaker 1: we've been dealing with this for as long as y'all
Speaker 1: been dealing with everything y'all have been dealing with. We're
Speaker 1: talking about general rate, we're talking about posts reconstruction, we've
Speaker 1: been dealing with this ship and we still like the
Speaker 1: sex thing, the the the habitual, the the the ritual
Speaker 1: rape of black boys still hasn't entered this conversation. We're
Speaker 1: at least talking about the crime, about the heaviness, right
Speaker 1: we have, Yeah, we had a whole episode about this. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all Black men and losing verity so young to older women,
Speaker 1: and brothers ain't ready to have that conversation. I still can't.
Speaker 1: It's still hard for me to get a brother to
Speaker 1: think about whether or not him losing his virginity at
Speaker 1: thirteen to a thirty year old was a healthy thing
Speaker 1: for him, you know what I mean. And you look
Speaker 1: at some of the brothers, brothers, and this is and
Speaker 1: this is where it gets complex, right because because we're
Speaker 1: talking about the problem, right, why supremacist superstructure, right, But
Speaker 1: we in community together. So when I start yelling who
Speaker 1: I'm ana hit first, I'm a yellow one of y'all.
Speaker 1: And if I get hurt, who I'm gonna get hurt,
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna get hurt by one of y'all. And
Speaker 1: so like, it becomes complex because we we we see
Speaker 1: who we see in the news on a regular basis
Speaker 1: as black Man, Nick Cannon, the baby Chris Brown once
Speaker 1: upon a time, Mike Tyson, all of those brothers, Little Wayne,
Speaker 1: all of those brothers are victims of child sexual assault
Speaker 1: that they that they r Kelly, I forgot about. Did
Speaker 1: I call it? Did not call it? Yea call it? Yeah? Yeah, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You asked me what was wrong with me earlier?
Speaker 1: Nothing's wrong with me. I'm just receiving all of this information,
Speaker 1: and it's hiding. It's it's heavy, it's it's very very heavy,
Speaker 1: because you know, they're absolutely incredible men that I love,
Speaker 1: and I have a son, and I have nephews, and
Speaker 1: I'm watching this negative energy towards all of us, towards
Speaker 1: all of us. Bitches ain't shit, niggas, ain't worth nothing.
Speaker 1: You gotta get that money, get money off them. Niggas.
Speaker 1: They're not people anymore. They're not human beings in any way,
Speaker 1: shape or form. There are means to an end and
Speaker 1: that is all. And that is very painful to me
Speaker 1: for just just for the future. It is very painful
Speaker 1: to me as a woman. I'm like in anytime. Okay,
Speaker 1: for instance, um, something very close to me is an
Speaker 1: incredible philanthropist on a regular basis. And I'm and I'm
Speaker 1: not saying once a month, I'm talking come out once
Speaker 1: a week. It's a whole effort to get homeless people
Speaker 1: food and shelter and shoes and socks, you know, supplying
Speaker 1: you know, crates and crates of socks for people like
Speaker 1: you don't even think about it, but if you don't
Speaker 1: have anything warm feet, like really really matter it, really
Speaker 1: really mad. It's okay, So all of these gestures to
Speaker 1: be kind and on his social media he'll get like
Speaker 1: sixteen likes, sixteen, But that girl over there, who is
Speaker 1: in a different outfit with you know, the same background,
Speaker 1: is clapping her booty cheeks and she's about thousands of likes. Well, Jill,
Speaker 1: have you seen anything when people do now they put
Speaker 1: the little they put a girl who's like dancing tantally
Speaker 1: with a little outfit on to get your attention and
Speaker 1: then need to get your attention. And that's I think
Speaker 1: that that's genus verse. Every time I see that, I think, Yes,
Speaker 1: Lupa had a verse of one of his mixtapes where
Speaker 1: he was like, Niples is nuclear missiles, Uh, you know
Speaker 1: Loupelupe and so like it's on an old mixtape, and
Speaker 1: he was talking about like, if I want to really
Speaker 1: get some shit out, I gotta put it next to
Speaker 1: the sexy to the sex syed right right right. And
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out, Okay, we know we're
Speaker 1: aware of all the harms because the Adam motherfucker, so
Speaker 1: niggas hear me something like that I got on the shirt.
Speaker 1: So so how how on earth do we make this
Speaker 1: work for our benefit? Like, I think that that's an
Speaker 1: excellent suggestion. I've actually suggested that to them before, like
Speaker 1: get to get a big booty Judie, let her dance
Speaker 1: for about zero seven seconds and switch over to these
Speaker 1: people are hungry in the country, right, and this is
Speaker 1: what we're doing, and we'd appreciate some more support if
Speaker 1: you could just you know, because it could be you
Speaker 1: at any time. There's a conversation about you know, the
Speaker 1: quote about the Master's tools, um, and yeah, I always
Speaker 1: I'm always like, yeah, but I don't know, man, these short,
Speaker 1: these swords are sharp, like these these tools is efficient
Speaker 1: and so like there's I mean, like number one, intercommunal
Speaker 1: local organizing is like it's key for anything you're doing
Speaker 1: because you always be more beholden to the people who
Speaker 1: you see I rl um or or online. You'll I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: that's okay, Like and I'm forty, Like I ain't that
Speaker 1: young personal zomig, we don't know that us us No,
Speaker 1: that's fine, but as gen xers anyway, we are in
Speaker 1: the height of having to keep up. So I'm not
Speaker 1: surprised at your forty because we're the ones that got
Speaker 1: to balance all this ship. Yeah, you're just a geriatric
Speaker 1: midillennials beyond my ass, boy, I mean, you ain't got that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's that? Can you can? You can you email that
Speaker 1: to me? Email? Like right right? But yeah, they they
Speaker 1: we gotta you know, local organization is useful, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, just it starts with community because
Speaker 1: communities will have like the research shows that the communities
Speaker 1: that have the least amount of problems are the ones
Speaker 1: that are the closest. Because you're not gonna rob the
Speaker 1: store of your homeboy, auntie. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna break in your and your and your
Speaker 1: sister's boyfriend or baby daddy house unless unless you're you know,
Speaker 1: unless that was the plan. But you get my point.
Speaker 1: Like generally, community is always a key, Yeah, But beyond that,
Speaker 1: while we're in here, while we're on these platforms, we
Speaker 1: gotta just we gotta step up the game, and we
Speaker 1: gotta really like learn and understand how these systems work,
Speaker 1: how they are not built and it's not And I
Speaker 1: want to be clear, the system is a reflection of society.
Speaker 1: It's a reflection of the people's reflection of where we are.
Speaker 1: And let's I want to people want people say I
Speaker 1: keep talking about the system, and I'm like, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: if he fixed the system, the people will follow. But
Speaker 1: I got to be clear, the people are there as well. Um.
Speaker 1: But if we take advantage of how these systems work
Speaker 1: and we understand how they maneuver, we can get certain
Speaker 1: messages out there and grow. Like Kendrick Lamar is a
Speaker 1: good example. Like when you when you like Kendra Lamar,
Speaker 1: ain't did a whole song about trans understand the trans people.
Speaker 1: This biggest rapper in the world did a whole song
Speaker 1: about understanding trans people. It wasn't the perfect like you know,
Speaker 1: like academic understood everything, but it's started the conversation you
Speaker 1: never expected to come from the biggest rapper in the world.
Speaker 1: I almost wish he would come outside more, but I'm like,
Speaker 1: in a social way, just to fight some of the
Speaker 1: other stuff like that. I saw him on a commercial
Speaker 1: recently and I was like, damn, he don't do commercials.
Speaker 1: This is crazy because you don't come out. But but
Speaker 1: I think it's because of what we're talking about. It
Speaker 1: is just the fact that it's like if you engage
Speaker 1: too much, it can you can open yourself up to
Speaker 1: the toxicity of it all, and it can shift you motivation,
Speaker 1: it can shift what your you know, your ideals and
Speaker 1: what's important to you. To have to kind of retreat
Speaker 1: is important because you talked about community, but also think
Speaker 1: it's that place to retreat, to pull out and to
Speaker 1: reconnect to what it is is truly important to you
Speaker 1: because and to reassess what your actual values are, like
Speaker 1: why am I here? Why am I doing this? What
Speaker 1: is my purpose? You know what I'm saying, because unfortunately
Speaker 1: it's the quiet of it all. Another thing that we had.
Speaker 1: You know, obviously, you know we all you know, our
Speaker 1: members at the church and in that ministry. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So even when we talk about rest
Speaker 1: and that that kind of taking that moment to be
Speaker 1: able to have space to think about our ideas because
Speaker 1: there's so much rick, there's so much noise, there's so
Speaker 1: much going on that you know, you don't even have
Speaker 1: a chance to decide what you feel or think about
Speaker 1: a thing. It's being dictated to you every single day,
Speaker 1: all day long, and you'll be sitting up there spitting
Speaker 1: an opinion. It's not even your opinion, it's it's the
Speaker 1: shit you heard three or four and that's something that
Speaker 1: you heard. You don't even know you know heard. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, to really think about how those
Speaker 1: things affect the person to your left. You're right, your
Speaker 1: front and your back. I tell people all the time,
Speaker 1: people be talking about all this stuff about relationships, and
Speaker 1: they grandma and the women ain't how they used to be.
Speaker 1: I said, tell me, you ain't never had a conversation
Speaker 1: with your grandma without telling me you ain't never had
Speaker 1: a conversation with your grandma. Come on, tell me that
Speaker 1: tell me you have never had a conversation with your
Speaker 1: grandma without telling me that you ain't never had a
Speaker 1: conversation with your grandma, right, say shit like women ain't
Speaker 1: how they used to be Grandma, grandpa, stay together, y'all
Speaker 1: came like you ever hear what grandma? I have to
Speaker 1: deal with the statement exactly. And somebody tweeted this and
Speaker 1: I will not take credit for this. Ign't remember the
Speaker 1: girl's neighbor, she said, first of her. The reason why
Speaker 1: some of us don't do the same things our grandma's
Speaker 1: did because some of our grandmas pulled our asses off
Speaker 1: to the side and said, don't do this, don't do that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So it's like it is
Speaker 1: that the beauty of conversation, you know, and not to
Speaker 1: not to be on our whole, Like let's turn it
Speaker 1: full circle to what we do here at Drey darn Ill.
Speaker 1: But that is what we do here. We're having a
Speaker 1: conversation because at the end of the day, the culture
Speaker 1: part of it is the harder part to change. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's because people some of the factors. And one thing
Speaker 1: you said that also, I think connects to something Jill
Speaker 1: just said, like a lot of brothers are in survival
Speaker 1: more in a way that I don't think, Like, I
Speaker 1: think women want to understand, and I think women think
Speaker 1: they understand what I'm telling y'all, y'all don't understand. No,
Speaker 1: we know, we don't understand. We know, we just want to.
Speaker 1: We do want to. I think you, like a lot
Speaker 1: of women do know that. But I think the nature
Speaker 1: the energy, especially on social media, it feels like a
Speaker 1: lot of brothers just feel like they're being talked down
Speaker 1: to and talked over when they're trying to speak to
Speaker 1: certain things. But even before that, right, Like, that's like
Speaker 1: when we get into these frivolous, you know, gender wars conversations,
Speaker 1: and I don't give a lot of credence to that
Speaker 1: because so much of that is just for low key entertainment.
Speaker 1: When I'm talking about like Jill's nephews, right what they what?
Speaker 1: What has to be recognized. I talked about this in
Speaker 1: the video I can't if y'all want to watch me
Speaker 1: like this conversation with another brother from Chicago who like
Speaker 1: is also deep into this um I talked about, y'all
Speaker 1: remember the story of Yummy Sandiford. I don't he was
Speaker 1: he was a thirteen year old Chicago, and I guess
Speaker 1: this would have had to be ninety five, ninety six.
Speaker 1: That guy, that guy he was. It's it's it's a
Speaker 1: horrible story. I don't want to get too deep into
Speaker 1: the story, but like that story haunts me because that
Speaker 1: at thirteen, even in the sub birds, it hit me
Speaker 1: like what black male humanity was really worse. I had
Speaker 1: heard the Immett Till story before, which is also like,
Speaker 1: you know, a scarring thing, and I had, you know,
Speaker 1: heard such and such gang violence, whatever, whatever. But when
Speaker 1: that boy's face popped up on the news, it took
Speaker 1: a piece from it, like it took a piece from
Speaker 1: me that I have yet to get back because I
Speaker 1: see it in my son's eyes. And by the way,
Speaker 1: my son just had a little boy died. My son
Speaker 1: and we go to a good school. Little boy got
Speaker 1: shot at the bowling now a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: soever years old. They didn't gone, and my son came
Speaker 1: out of school. He was like, Dad, you did you
Speaker 1: hear about the little boy that got shot? And I'm like, yeah, man, well,
Speaker 1: and I almost said, like I didn't say this, but
Speaker 1: it's like it was like I here, we go, this
Speaker 1: is the beginning of this conversation. And so what these
Speaker 1: boys need, what your nephews need, your sons, is they
Speaker 1: need opportunity to take off that armor that they're building
Speaker 1: because they see this, they see what just happened in Memphis.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They see how how black
Speaker 1: men are depicted, how we depict ourselves, and they start
Speaker 1: they start adding plis, they start adding shelves, and that
Speaker 1: allows them to be callous to women. That allows them
Speaker 1: to be callous to each other, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And like that is and that's why I, even though
Speaker 1: I'm critical, I try to hold space because I'm lucky
Speaker 1: enough to have had a relatively emotionally engaged father and
Speaker 1: a lot of of like emotionally engaged men and strong
Speaker 1: black women who said I not really though, like like
Speaker 1: you be okay, protect you, mentors, access whatever. So I've
Speaker 1: never had to armor up like some of these brothers said.
Speaker 1: This typeree thing is really making I feel like two,
Speaker 1: it's a whole other level of brother's arm armor, Like
Speaker 1: this has just been heavy for all of us as
Speaker 1: a community. But you know, yeah, because I think that
Speaker 1: the thing is that like the humanity aspect, you said,
Speaker 1: like you like here, it goes right here here, here's
Speaker 1: the beginning of it. For me to look at my
Speaker 1: son's and think, you know, I think a similar thing happened.
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't say similar, but a somewhat similar thing
Speaker 1: happens with women. The first time that you have to
Speaker 1: talk to your daughter about what's going to happen when
Speaker 1: she goes outside, regardless of what she's welcoming or not,
Speaker 1: right that that that moment that you look at your
Speaker 1: twelve year old daughter and you're like, damn it, I
Speaker 1: gotta talk to her about cat calls. I got to
Speaker 1: talk to her about creepy looks. I got to talk
Speaker 1: to her about right, I got to talk it's and
Speaker 1: and you've got to talk about old If you say
Speaker 1: no that you're gonna be called a bit, you're stuck
Speaker 1: up bl blah blah blah blah blah. So there's it's
Speaker 1: similar somewhat, But I understand that the humanity aspect of it,
Speaker 1: the life or death aspect of it, it is beyond
Speaker 1: the understanding of not being able to live in that
Speaker 1: body and live in that experience. And I want this
Speaker 1: so badly for black men to be able to be
Speaker 1: to understand their humanity, and for us to celebrate their
Speaker 1: humanity and not in words, in action and understanding all
Speaker 1: of these systems. If you're not having a conversation for me,
Speaker 1: and much love to you, it doesn't affect my love right,
Speaker 1: But for me, you can't have a conversation with me
Speaker 1: about racism, about white supremacy, if we're not having a
Speaker 1: conversation about gender patriarchy, if we're not talking about its
Speaker 1: effect on your humanity in mind, then unfortunately, it is
Speaker 1: not the level of conversation to which I'm interested in
Speaker 1: engaging with you about. Like I can love you, I
Speaker 1: can want the best for you, but we are not
Speaker 1: able to have that conversation because it is one in
Speaker 1: which I know it's never going to end up in
Speaker 1: your liberation. You're not going to feel like a human
Speaker 1: if you're not going to consider this part of the experience.
Speaker 1: And that's the problem I have with so many soul calls,
Speaker 1: so pro black folk that come out here. They don't
Speaker 1: they're not really actually talking about the humanity of black men. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're playing a hit, still talking about a character. They're
Speaker 1: still talking about something that don't exist. And that's the thing,
Speaker 1: like imagine, Like, so I don't like to play the
Speaker 1: oppression Olympics because it's it's always going to rail the conversation.
Speaker 1: But the one thing I think that would help is
Speaker 1: we both have this similar experience of like having to
Speaker 1: like the personalized from our humanity as black people a
Speaker 1: man and women as children. But the difference is, I
Speaker 1: think women have developed that conversation over generations y'all, But
Speaker 1: like niggas weren't even Like I'm the like niggas didn't
Speaker 1: even talk to their fathers until like thirty years ago.
Speaker 1: You hit a dad in the home that nigga did
Speaker 1: not talk to you if you was born before nineteen eighty,
Speaker 1: that's like and like to do that was to teach
Speaker 1: you how to be a man. Shut the fuck up
Speaker 1: and do the thing. Watch me and suck it up.
Speaker 1: Watch me. Don't say shit till we don't ask for
Speaker 1: a ug don't ask me how I feel. I don't
Speaker 1: got no feelings, nigga, I'm surviving offenses and so like,
Speaker 1: we haven't developed that stuff. And so that's what I
Speaker 1: think a lot of brothers are doing now. And it's
Speaker 1: hard because and I'm gonna just keep it real. It's
Speaker 1: hard on all lovers y'all can think of. It's there's
Speaker 1: a lot of brothers that's so invested in patriarch and
Speaker 1: they're like, these niggas soft, these niggas gay, these niggasist
Speaker 1: is niggas that we need the real man to stand up.
Speaker 1: That's what we need. And it's like, all right, y'all
Speaker 1: been here for a minute, We see what y'all been
Speaker 1: spending your time on. So it's a lot of that,
Speaker 1: right white spens. But a thing that doesn't get talked
Speaker 1: about is women are invested in that caricature as much
Speaker 1: as men are. Oh yeah, yeah man or a strong
Speaker 1: man right right then that nigga was emotional, and that's
Speaker 1: don't do that. Don't do that. You know, it's can balance,
Speaker 1: that's all us I'm saying, as us. The balance is
Speaker 1: all fair. More conversation after the break. Can I can
Speaker 1: I propose how to fix this thing? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think you know, this goes
Speaker 1: back to how do we eat an elephant? You know
Speaker 1: one by that at the time deep programming programming process
Speaker 1: because because because it can go either way, when when
Speaker 1: you when you're dealing with the man, and then the
Speaker 1: man is for emotional You know that can't work either.
Speaker 1: It's irrational. It's a risk for y'all different than us,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Because yeah, like y'all just
Speaker 1: needs to be normal, because you never know which dude is,
Speaker 1: like right, But I need you to have at least
Speaker 1: five emotions, and not just to please oh please. I
Speaker 1: don't care about the number of emotions. I just need
Speaker 1: you to maybe like develop a little bit of your
Speaker 1: ability to have the words that match them. Thank you,
Speaker 1: like just say I don't. You can say all the
Speaker 1: things you want to feel, like bro, but if it's
Speaker 1: if it's if it's jealousy, if it's an abandoned men,
Speaker 1: if it's if it's you know whatever, whatever, the words are, happy, joy, whatever.
Speaker 1: I just when I went to therapy, I got this
Speaker 1: picture of a yarn, right, and it was called the
Speaker 1: Ball of Emotions, and on all the little pieces of
Speaker 1: yarn were different feeling words. And I realize how little
Speaker 1: feeling word vocabulary I had as an adult person. And
Speaker 1: that's why I don't fault men or anybody for not
Speaker 1: having this language. I'm just asking that we all try
Speaker 1: because if we can communicate with feeling, that changes and
Speaker 1: it all cooking humanizes you towards each other. If you
Speaker 1: can say this, this is what I am feeling. If
Speaker 1: you have to default to happy or sad, angry, happy, sad, angry,
Speaker 1: oh God in the bathroom, you need more than that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just feel like they don't get hurt. And this
Speaker 1: is real. As a brother, you don't get hurt if
Speaker 1: you unless you're angry or lustful or violent, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. That's when we that's that's a that's
Speaker 1: a Bill Hooks quote. You know what I'm saying. Black
Speaker 1: man receive the most attention when they're violetly acting out.
Speaker 1: And you don't think that's changing a little bit. It's
Speaker 1: changing because I just said to a brother the other day,
Speaker 1: I was like, he said, you know, he said he
Speaker 1: got electric tooth brush and a therapist. And I was like, nigga,
Speaker 1: you don't know how sexy that's saying. And an electric
Speaker 1: two brush. You are evolved black man. And that's the frontier.
Speaker 1: I think I'm one where so things are growing and changing, right,
Speaker 1: and so some dudes are really feeling, they start to
Speaker 1: feel insecure about the they status because like dudes will
Speaker 1: come in the room be like, I'm an alpha male.
Speaker 1: I'm an alpha male. I don't need emotions. I got
Speaker 1: ten women, I got I got what the bugattis. That's
Speaker 1: what Andrew Table was talking about. And it's like and
Speaker 1: like there are less women have y'all are y'all look
Speaker 1: at you know, y'all like this, This doesn't look like
Speaker 1: a healthy brother. The build life went to connect too
Speaker 1: long term. But this dude over here with the electric toothbrush,
Speaker 1: in the in the in the plants, Yes, you plant
Speaker 1: and it's healthy. Yeah. So like you if you got
Speaker 1: to announce that you're an alpha male, you ain't be
Speaker 1: an alpha male if you if you, if you'll you
Speaker 1: know the my video coming up, we're talking about desirability.
Speaker 1: And it's like the funny thing that I found through
Speaker 1: my research. It's something I kind of knew but just
Speaker 1: didn't have the details on. It's like dudes would be
Speaker 1: on tender right, Dudes will there'll be they'll be in
Speaker 1: a gym getting it in right. And so they got
Speaker 1: the all the all the all the extra bumps and
Speaker 1: veins that you know, somebody love it. Some ladies like it,
Speaker 1: but they think all the ladies love it, and so
Speaker 1: they tender thing be like who and it's like ain't no,
Speaker 1: ain't when they're clicking that bro like if you don't,
Speaker 1: if you don't, if you don't cook something. That's me
Speaker 1: and my husband. Me and my husband will talking about
Speaker 1: this recently about about like R and B music where
Speaker 1: it's just like the old kind of go tos for
Speaker 1: R and B male singers to like get women going.
Speaker 1: They don't work anymore, like if you see it, it
Speaker 1: just it's not the same that whole humping the stage
Speaker 1: and you got your shirt unbuttoned down to the belly
Speaker 1: button and it's like, you know, I've been giving the
Speaker 1: hey girl, they still work for me. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know for me as for me
Speaker 1: and my study. So I think I'm going to love
Speaker 1: for the It's nostalgic, baby, it's nostalgic. You old honey
Speaker 1: is playing too into the nostalgiob. Okay, have you seen Bobby?
Speaker 1: I mean I don't, I don't. I don't know what
Speaker 1: the young bro boys I mean, I got it. I
Speaker 1: see it like one of my home he's terb a
Speaker 1: shout out to home term he got like, you know,
Speaker 1: pink locks, and he got like the choker with the
Speaker 1: cross on it, so he like he like a black vampire,
Speaker 1: and like, I know, i'd be talking to him, like
Speaker 1: I'd be careful. There's at a certain point once you
Speaker 1: get enough subscribers, they're gonna come and you need to
Speaker 1: be responsible and smart about how them dms work, because
Speaker 1: the dms, you know, it's it's it's it's an interesting experience.
Speaker 1: And I'm not I wasn't a brother, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm from the nineties, so like being the thoughtful, intellectual
Speaker 1: shot brother was not getting the panties thrown at me
Speaker 1: in high school. But undergrad I figured out how to
Speaker 1: perform uh masculinity, desirable masculinity, and you know, we got
Speaker 1: some we learned some things, and then I met my
Speaker 1: wife and we just grew together and figured it out
Speaker 1: with each other. But like, if I was to hit
Speaker 1: the streets again, I'd be like, I don't know what's
Speaker 1: I don't know what these folds are doing. Getting all
Speaker 1: the panties is even a cold like ever since I
Speaker 1: hate that. It's a goal, man. I mean what I
Speaker 1: said when I said I hate I would prefer you know, honestly,
Speaker 1: you know, since I'm a mom, you know, and my aunt,
Speaker 1: I would prefer for you to choose well that not
Speaker 1: get it all quality over quantity for real, And I
Speaker 1: would really love for you to care about your penis.
Speaker 1: You care about you dick, if you you might want
Speaker 1: to use that. And that's another thing brothers be, you know,
Speaker 1: like it ain't possible, like some brothers will look like
Speaker 1: I don't know, Jonathan Majors to look like he looks
Speaker 1: right now. That ain't natural for most men. I think
Speaker 1: maybe Michael b might be the only dude that ain't
Speaker 1: working super super look like that. What you mean, y'all,
Speaker 1: muscle memory is crazy better than ours, it's better in y'alls,
Speaker 1: but like it still ain't to look like how Jonathan
Speaker 1: Major's looks right now. Work on that. You gotta work
Speaker 1: on that in a way that either you got certain
Speaker 1: chemicals in your body or you got a ridiculous work ethic,
Speaker 1: you know that. And that work ethic comes out of
Speaker 1: costs and it calls certain equipment. Like folks, they won't
Speaker 1: tell you that, y'all know that that's true, but oh
Speaker 1: speak the truth. I just heard that, Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: can also attest that there there's certain men that are
Speaker 1: just blessed that way, just blessed what you do, just
Speaker 1: like some women are just ridiculously blessed. God knew not
Speaker 1: to give it to me, He knew she don't know,
Speaker 1: she don't deserve it. Siana Sailors said, she don't. She
Speaker 1: don't exercise at all. She just dance. And it's like,
Speaker 1: clearly that's just a blessing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Some people like it. Some people are like that, I
Speaker 1: should say, but I'll be trying to tell brothers, like,
Speaker 1: look y'all out here, you you're gonna need like you
Speaker 1: like Jill just said, you're gonna need that later. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I didn't think about that.
Speaker 1: You're teaching class today, sir. People like all kinds of
Speaker 1: things anyway, you know. Also also blood pressure, So blood pressure,
Speaker 1: please speak on it. I'm gonna Get'm gonna get a
Speaker 1: little personal right. I'm forty years old. I was diagnosed
Speaker 1: so how blood pressure at thirty six ish, and it
Speaker 1: runs my family runs in a lot of folks families.
Speaker 1: But also diet, I'm overweight, et cetera. And boy for
Speaker 1: for like when I had to first get medicine for
Speaker 1: that first six months, I was like, oh no, we
Speaker 1: gotta something gotta give because I can't live like this.
Speaker 1: I can't live like this for the rest of my life.
Speaker 1: So um, and think I got started exercising, I got
Speaker 1: to lower my dositch and I got functional and I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, cool, And like, COVID has not been
Speaker 1: nice to me in this new job where I'm literally
Speaker 1: doing this for most of my days has put weight
Speaker 1: on me. But you best believe your boy got a
Speaker 1: gym membership late last year and I'm trying to work
Speaker 1: it out for you. Some brothers will function, but they're
Speaker 1: not in there, like they're not with you. And and
Speaker 1: I'm sure y'all of it. Have you experienced that some
Speaker 1: brothers can can can be there with the equipment that
Speaker 1: you need, but the connection that you desire during the act,
Speaker 1: they and they have been in and out of so
Speaker 1: many women and so many experiences that they just don't
Speaker 1: even have the valuative. It's very performed because because a
Speaker 1: lot of brothers. I have a video you can watch.
Speaker 1: Um it's called a Conservatives are bad at sex um.
Speaker 1: But I get into that we've going back to how
Speaker 1: black men are are idealized. Um, you know the man Dingo,
Speaker 1: the pipe layer, you know what I'm saying, the myster
Speaker 1: fix it, the Jodi, and so a lot of brothers
Speaker 1: start separating genuine pleasure from sex early on because sex
Speaker 1: is only about checking off scores, like numbers going up.
Speaker 1: For a lot of brothers, I don't understand an orgasm,
Speaker 1: just thinking that it means that something's coming out your body,
Speaker 1: something coming out body, this feels we want and so like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got to do that. Hopefully you know everybody different,
Speaker 1: but like you got to do that for the rest
Speaker 1: of your life. And like if you start out the
Speaker 1: bat disentangling like pleasure and connection and sensuality from the
Speaker 1: act of sex. I know, I know brothers that are
Speaker 1: interested in sex. Now, I'm sure, y'all. I'm sure, y'all.
Speaker 1: If it's not you, no shade. But if it's not you,
Speaker 1: you know a girlfriend that's like such and such I've
Speaker 1: been with forever, it ain't And that comes from not
Speaker 1: coming right. Wow, there's a lot into our glasses. There's
Speaker 1: a lot being poured into there, and you know we
Speaker 1: are primarily dehydrated anyway, most of us. So what we're
Speaker 1: getting is a lot of um is a lot of bullshit.
Speaker 1: And what I'm asking you to do as well as
Speaker 1: myself shit, all of us. We just pay attention to
Speaker 1: what is showing up on our social media. Pay attention.
Speaker 1: If it's a bunch of you know, um, negativity or
Speaker 1: or or disrespect for black women or black men, you
Speaker 1: start blocking the shit. I don't know if that, if
Speaker 1: that works in changing your algorithm. No, you got to
Speaker 1: change your art. No, it's their fault, it's yours, your faults.
Speaker 1: Start looking at other shit like I do. I am
Speaker 1: really manipulating my algorithm. I'm like, I want the right
Speaker 1: shopping shit, talk about it. I got friends who their
Speaker 1: algorithm is everything. They in the cooking shit all and
Speaker 1: shit come up, all the people who cook they're to
Speaker 1: come up. You know what I'm saying. If you're in
Speaker 1: the other jewelry and all come up, like you just
Speaker 1: have to change yo. Shit. It ain't about the internet.
Speaker 1: You are if you aren't interested in changing your shit. Right,
Speaker 1: there's two or three ways to manipulate your algorithm. One,
Speaker 1: start a whole new account from scratch. If you don't
Speaker 1: want to do that, Um, you gotta you gotta start
Speaker 1: intentionally shitting on the bad stuff. So like, if you
Speaker 1: got YouTube right, YouTube don't like when you watch one
Speaker 1: second of a video and click off. Oh YouTube hates
Speaker 1: that shit. So if you see some some negative shit
Speaker 1: pop up on your feed, click on that, watch for
Speaker 1: one second, then click off that shittube. They don't like it.
Speaker 1: They don't like it. We got you, we like YouTube
Speaker 1: is one of the one of the I talked because
Speaker 1: I've talked to these people. They say, it's like a
Speaker 1: puppy that just wants to please you. And the puppy
Speaker 1: when you come in the house, the puppies like, hey,
Speaker 1: I got let me go get you this thing. And
Speaker 1: they come to the to ther door with you know,
Speaker 1: a bone or something. And if you take the bone,
Speaker 1: I like, this is great. The puppies gonna wag, they
Speaker 1: tell and bring you more bones. But if you take
Speaker 1: the bone, but like, shit out of here, the puppies
Speaker 1: gonna feel bad for a second. But it's gonna find
Speaker 1: something else for you to you, for you to play with.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, If you would notice, and
Speaker 1: I think that I think that even ties into what
Speaker 1: you were saying about the master's tools. It's like, yes,
Speaker 1: and this is not in any way to discredit you know,
Speaker 1: argu lord, but to say, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: there is a way to engage with these tools so
Speaker 1: that you can then make your voice heard. So maybe
Speaker 1: you can't change that system, but you can let that
Speaker 1: system know. I'm not fucking with that right if I
Speaker 1: don't appreciate it. You want my engagement, stop showing me
Speaker 1: this shit. Yeah, that's basically what the what the puppy
Speaker 1: is trying. You know what the algorithm wants to I'm
Speaker 1: gonna want your engagement. I'm gonna have no morals as
Speaker 1: no soul, it has no dislike. But it's only Facebook
Speaker 1: want with a dislike. Huh dislike. But but the dislike
Speaker 1: is keep scrolling, keep scrolling, and then when you find
Speaker 1: something that really feeds you you, when you find that
Speaker 1: thing you want more of stop Okay, a comment, leave alike,
Speaker 1: heart whatever. That's why you hear YouTubers constantly say like
Speaker 1: hair and comment, because that is how they keep their
Speaker 1: engagement up. If you see content that you like, don't
Speaker 1: just be like, oh that was real good. You want
Speaker 1: to like it? Share it, x Y and Z. You
Speaker 1: want to make sure those people feel and hear that
Speaker 1: in a way that's real, that comes up in data
Speaker 1: that they can then use to keep moving forward, and
Speaker 1: they do analysis on like the types of comments you
Speaker 1: leave too. So if you say I love this, this
Speaker 1: was really somebody to see today whatever, like, they say, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's good. We want that. And if they
Speaker 1: and if you argue with the motherfucking the comments or
Speaker 1: some shit you don't like, they will keep feeding you
Speaker 1: all this. They don't they really liked that, So we're
Speaker 1: gonna send them more of that because that will keep
Speaker 1: them engaged. You got you gotta train it like a dog.
Speaker 1: Engagement has no morals about everything, y'all, Like you're crazy,
Speaker 1: you know, don't let me get into my capitalism bag.
Speaker 1: We only got we only got a few more minutes.
Speaker 1: It starts and start talking about how the corporations and
Speaker 1: the plutocracy and all. I don't I don't want to
Speaker 1: get to autocracy. See I don't want you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying like this. That's why that's why age was
Speaker 1: like when I get to that that black conservative socialist video,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We got to start that's
Speaker 1: you know. My goal is to this not to be
Speaker 1: the last time I talked to some famous people. But
Speaker 1: I'm scared because I don't know how far I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get before either a I start telling the rich niggas
Speaker 1: today face that they need to change, or I become
Speaker 1: a rich nigg and be like, oh no, that's cool.
Speaker 1: Second part. I'm second part as as a rich niggod.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just tell you money does not make it
Speaker 1: the man. That's that's the goal I appreciate. Go go
Speaker 1: get your coins, friend, go get all your coins. We're trying.
Speaker 1: My wife with a job last year, so she congratulations. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was an amazing She she needed it because she
Speaker 1: was out there in corporate America, you know, working working
Speaker 1: in that that whole I was I was saving the world,
Speaker 1: working with kids and shit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And she up here talking to these old white men
Speaker 1: trying to get them to sell and box stuff. And
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, baby, look we switched. I got it.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, take these naps. Get your skin good. Anytime
Speaker 1: you offer somebody a nap, that's just a nice time.
Speaker 1: Shout out to A. J's so funny. She went out
Speaker 1: with a friend and her friend was asking her about
Speaker 1: her skin routine and she was like, yo, I take
Speaker 1: a lot of naps because she stopped wearing makeup in
Speaker 1: the last like three or four months. And then like
Speaker 1: your skin is long. She's like, yeah, good jeans in
Speaker 1: the sleep every once and again. My husband coming, why
Speaker 1: I'm taking my nap and you know that, okay. Blessings, blessings, blessing.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming and spending some time
Speaker 1: with us. We really really appreciated. Look here, y'all, it
Speaker 1: just seemed to me like this. If you're paying attention
Speaker 1: to your social media's and you find that a lot
Speaker 1: of toxicity and negativity is in it, Number one, take
Speaker 1: account to the good people that are around you. Take
Speaker 1: account of the love that you receive, take account to
Speaker 1: the people that are supportive of you, and know that
Speaker 1: this is not the real world. The majority of this
Speaker 1: shit is for show, okay, And you know, for likes.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened when we become people that
Speaker 1: need likes so much, but it's always the people that
Speaker 1: are going their own direction that seem to get to
Speaker 1: the price. And remember anything that you're involved in too
Speaker 1: much can make you an addict. Thank you so much.
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