1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to Jay dot il, a production of I Heart Radio. Hi. Hi, 2 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: everybody's welcome to Jay dot Elder Podcast. Uh, it is 3 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: a glorious day to be a black woman here. Feel 4 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: good right. I feel like my my feet have been 5 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: beside you, even though they haven't. I feel like I 6 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: have had a wonderful afternoon of just stimuli. I'm titulated. 7 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: So welcome to Jay dot Elder Podcast, and I'm hoping 8 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: that we titulate you all today. I'm here with my 9 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: sister friends, Ada graydon Donza. I just feel like you 10 00:00:53,080 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: would saying Diddy for everybody you know me. I was 11 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: just at the I'm sorry, hello everyone, how are you? Yes, 12 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: we're going to titty late, let's do it, and and 13 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: then tentifying like yes sink Claire as they say a 14 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: DC A tenny ball. I'm sorry, Okay, I'm sorry. We 15 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: are having a good day. Okay. I hope that you 16 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: all are having a good day too. It's funny like 17 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: this is the way we want to feel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 18 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: we want to feel like joyful and energetic and you know, 19 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: kind of reason to smile. It's funny though that we 20 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: will suck around on this Beyonce's Internet, and out of 21 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: all the fantastic things that there are, people are you know, 22 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot of positive energy, a lot of positive 23 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: things to say. We say, we look at these things 24 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: and scroll right on buy and wait for some chaos, 25 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: wait for some train wrecks, for some foolishness. Really like, seriously, 26 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: something that a fool would do, you know, to make 27 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: the king laugh. You know, that's what we're waiting for. 28 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: And I'm wondering, I'm wondering why we do that. We 29 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: have a guest today that is going to talk about 30 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: these things with us eight Ja Graden Dance. If you'd 31 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: be so kind, y'all know that I if you listen 32 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: to show, you know, I'd be on the internet, Okay, 33 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: I'd be on the social media's and you know, and 34 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: certainly it is, you know, not a place that doesn't 35 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: have more than enough charismatic people who will pull in 36 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: the vibe and before you know it, they like all 37 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: the way social media is famous. But they are absolutely 38 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: and one hundred percent probably mad tick And the worst 39 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: problematic earth that you can do is then tell their 40 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: loyal and I mean fanatical audience that they are a problem. 41 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: And there you have it, it becomes a war outside. 42 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: No man is safe safe, you know what I'm saying. 43 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: So anyway, I want to introduce y'all to our guests 44 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: for today. His name is f D Signifier. He is 45 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 1: a former educator and researcher turned content creator who specializes 46 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: in analyzing black culture and black experience through media analysis. 47 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: His previous experience is working with boys and men and 48 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: researching behavioral health. Has continued in his work discussing issues 49 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: of gender and masculinity in his content. So y'all know, 50 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: he gets really talked about real bad on the people's 51 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: social media's you know what I'm saying, and they come 52 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: for you. Finally, I want y'all to know right now 53 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: that he is a loving husband and father of two 54 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: black boys. Him invested interest in contributing to a better 55 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: world where his boys can feel safe, actualized You're gonna 56 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: underline that, and fully realized humans underlining quote unquote strong 57 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: black men. In between content creation, FD is a media 58 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: junkie and Chicago Bears fan, which you want to talk 59 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: about because we and a gamer. So anyway, I heard 60 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: this guy and he really, hands down has one of 61 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: the best analysis that I've seen on the people's internet, 62 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: and they can't come for him and call him all 63 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: the names because he fits into all of the stereotypical 64 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: uh you know boxes married and surprise though they still do. 65 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: But welcome, welcome, welcome FD signifier to Jay by Area. 66 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: I love the name. Thank you so much. Don't even though, 67 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: like I gotta get the nerves out, especially after you 68 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: read them a little bio. I'm like, oh shit, I'm 69 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: really here? Are we cursing? Yeah? Okay, cool. We didn't 70 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: have a whole titty roundtable moment to get into the 71 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: it's a teddy round table. So yeah, this is this 72 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: is dope. This is uh a dream come true in 73 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: a weird way. Like I'm gonna tell when I tell 74 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: my boys that I was on a zoom call with 75 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: Jill Scott. No, no shade of a lady in the room. 76 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: But I'm just keeping the room. You know. It is 77 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: Harry's done. You know it was it was, it was twisted, 78 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: it roped up. I was like, I need to get 79 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: these curls crimping for on this podcast. The elbows are moisturized. 80 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: I got my most medium shirt. You know what I'm saying, Like, no, 81 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: thank you so yes, yeah, So this is just like 82 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: a wild experience to be here to talk my ship 83 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: to people that I admire, this is this is crazy 84 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: for me. So I'm very appreciative to be here and 85 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: hope that I can contribute what y'all want from my presence. 86 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: This is her social media is as wild is a 87 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: wild experience. So we need some navigation. Oh man, uh 88 00:05:54,880 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: just leave like like real talk. I am twittering less, 89 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: uh in twenty twenty three, especially on Elon must twitter 90 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: because after you get a certain amount of followers or whatever, 91 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: and especially if you talk about certain things and you 92 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: in different populations of a political thought, like one tweet 93 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: that you're not thinking too hard about will haunt you 94 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: for a whole week, you know what I'm saying, and 95 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: and be don cost you a couple of thousand subs 96 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: or a couple of nights arguing with people. So we 97 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: I'm it, Twitter hacks your brain. So I'm trying to 98 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: reduce my presence there, you know, but you still follow 99 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: me as if they sitting on Twitter. You at. One 100 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: of the things that I always find interesting about the 101 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: way that you you look at things is like, you know, 102 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: you try to find this kind of fair way to 103 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: discuss this right and get into all the different ways 104 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: that people can be drawn in. And one of the 105 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: things that you know that that hurts us, particularly as 106 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: Black people, is that we are very much kind of 107 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: tied into charismatic people. You know, we talk about out 108 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: Malcolm X and mL K and you know, these leaders 109 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: and the movement icons, and we look at this moment 110 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: and I think we're very emotionally attached to this. And 111 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: so do you see like a connection between what are 112 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: the desires of black people and how do we get 113 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: kind of pulled into these moments with these specific type 114 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: of personalities online Because you guys, remember it used to 115 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: be like a melody, you know, well, I mean I 116 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: think that may still be a very big part of it. 117 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: You know, you've got the pastors and and you know why, 118 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: you know that people come back over and over and 119 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: over again. There's a cadence in the rhythm that's still 120 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, people, So like, I'm not I'm gonna try 121 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: to throw as minimal shade to people as possible, but 122 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just say a particular Pan African political figure 123 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: that has popped up a lot, I'm sure you all 124 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: he does that very will, and that is the key 125 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: I would say to his prominence, Um he's been on 126 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: Breakfast Club a couple of times. Um he's building a school. 127 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure he is right. So like he has an 128 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: excellent like he embodies that that like rhythm of the pastor. 129 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That was a thing for 130 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: Kevin Samuel's where it's like there's an image, especially for 131 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: black men that we kind of desire this cadence in 132 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: this image. To answer your question, I think black folks 133 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: just want to see like health and wellness in front 134 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: of us. We want to see success. Who want to 135 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 1: see blackness that hasn't been ruined by white supremacy. You 136 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: know what I experience. And so if you show them that, 137 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: even if it's not quite real, even if it's a 138 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: little even if the message is a little thrown off, 139 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: you get attached to the image because that image is 140 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: you know, that's the thing that gets us going, because 141 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: that's maybe the thing we want to pursue. You go 142 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 1: back to Fred Hampton, you know what I mean. You 143 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: ever hear Fred Hampton talk, He sounds like a pastor. 144 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's a rhythment. Maybe it's in our bones. 145 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: Maybe it's in the melan I don't know, but it's 146 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: in there, so we gravitate to that. But it's also 147 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: you know, to me, honestly, it just seems like the 148 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: uglier the energy is behind something, you know, whatever it 149 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,599 Speaker 1: is you're talking about, whether you're talking about sports or 150 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: you're talking about music or faith, whatever it is, it 151 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: seems like the uglier the energy, the more people are 152 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: attracted to it. And you know, I don't know about 153 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: the rest of y'all, but that definitely concerns me because 154 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: we're seeing things like toxic relationships, and we're watching it 155 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: and it is fascinating. It's fascinating in the middle of 156 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: the street, Yes, it's very fascinating, right right, Like nobody 157 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: wants that, right right, I mean, we want to consume it. 158 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't think anybody wants to be fighting in 159 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: the middle of the street, but I don't know. There's 160 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: it's hard to look away. And so then one thing 161 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: I talk about a lot in my content is how 162 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: so much of our consumption of media now is controlled 163 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: by algorithmsifier thank you. I don't know how deep, y'all 164 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: I get into it, but like, like YouTube, Twitter, TikTok Facebook. 165 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: Once upon a time, you just had an account and 166 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: you connected your friends to your account or the people 167 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: you like to watch your account, and that's what showed 168 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: up when you opened up the app. And ten or 169 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: so years ago, a little more than that, probably people 170 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: started understanding algorithmically based consumption models for these apps were 171 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: better for keeping up engagement, aka better for keeping you scrolling, 172 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: to keep you looking, to keep you on the app. 173 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: And so the most engaging thing for humans across the 174 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: board tends to be the abhorrent, the scary, the disgusting, 175 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: the repulse of the violent, the things that like, it's 176 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: a proven thing in research that you will sit and 177 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: look at something that brings you that makes you feel 178 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: anger or discussed longer than something that makes you feel joy. 179 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: Like that's just they've they've tested this, and so world 180 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: Star exists, right, Like it's why a site like world 181 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 1: Star can exist. World Star was probably where they figured 182 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: it out, Like world Star started before all of this stuff. 183 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: It algorithm is popping world Star wars like yo fight 184 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: videos and and and upfront about it. Yeah, this is 185 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: where this is kind of what we're here for. And 186 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: and really with that the whole reality of that from 187 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: like a from science, okay, like just from the data, okay, 188 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: knowing that as black people we have to kind of 189 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: enter into this space like hyper aware, knowing that this 190 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: is what is happening to us. And what's messed up 191 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: about is that social media has been a place where 192 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: we really have benefited from some very good information. So 193 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 1: what I find is really difficult is or especially to 194 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: explain to other black folks whom I love, is that, Okay, listen, 195 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: just because you believe a thing right, you believe this 196 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: thing right, and you look at content that validates this 197 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: thing you believe. Every time you look at that content, 198 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 1: you're getting more and more of it, and so in 199 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: your mind, you're thinking, I'm getting my belief validated through 200 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 1: the information that I'm taking in. So I'm researched, I've 201 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: looked at all of the you know, I've heard it 202 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: from five different sources. When the app is basically saying, Okay, 203 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: you like strawberries, I'm just going to send you fifty 204 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: different types of strawberry content so that you start to 205 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: believe that strawberries is the preferred fruit for the entire 206 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: you know country, everybody likes strawberries. No one's allergic, you 207 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It was like I think that 208 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's like this thing 209 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: where we we go to a go there for something 210 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: and it has now become really our Achilles heel, you 211 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and soul. Anyway, I just love 212 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: you to kind of speak to some of that energy 213 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: as we're as we're out here trying to get conscious. 214 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: Like okay, we're out here trying to get woked it 215 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: and trying to figure stuff out. You ain't gonna do 216 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: it through social media, not without a real You better 217 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: hit them encyclopedias back up. That's that's where my like, 218 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: if you want to ask you my my intellectual foundation started. 219 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: It was being a nerdy little boy who had that 220 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: full own box set of all the books in the basement. 221 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: So it's the Nintendo, it was, it was my cousin's 222 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: DJ tables, and it was Encyclopedia. That was our culture 223 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: and our time. So yeah, all of us had that, 224 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: but no, honey, I had our through them. Okay, girl, 225 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: I keep trying to tell you it was bougie the 226 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 1: whole thing. Neither don't get it. I had the whole thing, 227 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: and I'm from North Philly, North Side. I'm just saying 228 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: I was Chicago suburbs. I own the relative boogeness of 229 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: my experience. You know it is, we enjoy it. It's 230 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: a Chicago thing to a degree. People don't talk about 231 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: that part of Chicago. Chicago old black money. Got some 232 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: old black money in Chicago, right right, Which we'll circle 233 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: back to that in a second. Maybe. Yeah. My point 234 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: was to amplify what Age was just saying. If I 235 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: search something on Google or better yet, on one YouTube, 236 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: especially YouTube tracks what I searched for, and it gives 237 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: me what it thinks is its best like answers to 238 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: that question, and then it tracks which one I click on, 239 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: and then it uses that information to say, okay, this 240 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: person is you know, it pulls all It's like it's 241 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: like one of the Matrix movie where they pulling off 242 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: the screens in the one spot. It does that to 243 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: kind of say, okay, we know now collecting data on 244 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: this user, and we're going to surround this user with 245 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: things that will keep it watching. And just as as 246 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: Agent said, this tricks us into thinking that this is 247 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: all of YouTube, this is the world, This is the 248 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: information that everybody's seeing. But no, that is information that 249 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: has been curated for you to see, not for accuracy 250 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: or for your intellectual enhancement, but for you to keep 251 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: watching and so it will catch it will catch tendencies, 252 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: and it's and it's got two billion users, so it's 253 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: seen enough for us before to say, Okay, this person 254 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: clicked this, this, and this, so we know exactly what 255 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: to bring to the table and what it brings to 256 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: the table. If it's some bullshit, if it's some wild shit, 257 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: if it knows it places your vulnerabilities and it'll keep 258 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: you clicking. Like the thing I talked about a lot 259 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: in one of my videos when I was talking about 260 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: the manisphere, is that my research. And this is not 261 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: like I am an academic researcher by trade, but this 262 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: is also this is YouTube the time, right, But the 263 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: research I've done, the people I'll talk to the Minister 264 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: of People will come at between like thirteen and twenty 265 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: two and they'll give you six months to two years. 266 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: The average person, and what happens is they have a breakup, 267 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: they get cheated on, they get dumped, they strike out 268 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: on a girl they really liked, they feel like they 269 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: got played, they got you know whatever, and they start 270 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: they'll just search how to talk the girls. And so 271 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: how to talk the girls might start with some decent, 272 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: you know, some decent advice. Yo, be yourself and you know, 273 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: make sure you wear your best outfit. Don't be trying 274 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: to talk to girls when when you ask you whatever, 275 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: it'll start with that. But like two or three more 276 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: clicks in this. You know women, you wouldn't be so hard. 277 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: Women were more submissive. And if black women didn't do 278 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: this and didn't do that. And once you start and 279 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: you're vulnerable in that moment because you're usually coming from 280 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: a place of lacking pain, and you hear people in 281 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: your ear telling you exactly what you want to hear, 282 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: it's a very it's a grooming process, and boys are 283 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: actually groomed from early on. That's why that statement I 284 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: made at the beginning, not just strong black men, because 285 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: while I aspire to and desire that from myself and 286 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: my sons, that sets a precedent for boys to be 287 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: groomed into certain attitudes and certain world views that are 288 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: harmful not just to other people if they don't do 289 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: it right, but to their own emotional wellness. And so 290 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: if you like been in that for a long time 291 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,239 Speaker 1: and you start getting them videos telling you it's all 292 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: the women's fault, man, that'll suck you right in. I 293 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: don't know what it is. It's in our brains, it's 294 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: in our systems. We see the results. You know. It's 295 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: the same thing with the q onin folks, any type 296 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: of nonsense when people are vulnerable, the nonsense will that 297 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: feels that vulnerability, that makes them feel whole again, They're 298 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: gonna seek that out like a drug in the algorithm, 299 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: just a computer. I don't care. It just knows you 300 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: can keep watching these ads. That's all it cares about. 301 00:17:53,040 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: More real talk after the break. So while you're out 302 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: there trying to kind of counteract us as a creator, right, 303 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: and you're out there saying, okay, I'm pointing this out 304 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 1: to y'all and specifically about the minisphere, which when you 305 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: answer this, I would love for you to like just 306 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: kind of give our listeners a little bit of a 307 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: background and what that is. But I think, um, so 308 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: while you're out there doing that, what is the reaction 309 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: from from your own folk black folk men and women, Like, 310 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: what is this reaction like when you say, Hey, this 311 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: is what you're listening to is playing to your vulnerability. 312 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: There's a problem. What is the feedback? It's a Bill Kurve, right, 313 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: So it's like a variety of different responses. The first 314 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: thing I want to put out there is that you know, 315 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: and I'm sure you I assume that you all have 316 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: experienced in real life like good brothers. You know what 317 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying. We all know, we all know a few 318 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: of them dudes. But like in my experience, most of 319 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: the men in my life and that I've been around, 320 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't set foot in the manisphere, wouldn't be caught dead. 321 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: Like I said it in one of my videos, these 322 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: dudes are low key, really losers. But they but they're 323 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: they're charged up, like they're propped up by the algorithms. 324 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: They're propped up because they make for good content. Literally hilarious. Yeah, 325 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: it's very exactly. You know, train wrecks. You know, I'm 326 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: going to use some language that clowns. I'm trying. I'm 327 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: trying to be careful of my in my language about 328 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: ableis and mental illness. Clown clown niggels. I feel good 329 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: about that one. And so a clown nigga can't be 330 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: the center of attention anywhere but the Internet. But if 331 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: he gets in the Internet and he's surrounded by the 332 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: clown niggas, he becomes like clown clown, he becomes Kevin Samuels, 333 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, if you know Kevin 334 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: Samuels's background, you know, and this is not to disparage 335 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: the dead for those who are sensitive to that, but 336 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: if you if you research his background, that man was 337 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: a buffoon and a loser for most of his life 338 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: until he embarrassed a black woman and collected a lot 339 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: of clowns. You know what I'm saying. And some of 340 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: his clowns where other black women. Let's be let's keep 341 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: a buck, keep it a buck, um, right right, right. 342 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: So to answer your question, I have a lot of 343 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: black men, the vast I would say. If I have 344 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: four hundred thousand some chain subscribers, I'm gonna say thirty 345 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: forty percent of that as black men. And most of 346 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: those men are like, I am so happy to hear 347 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: somebody speaking and making me feel like I'm not crazy, 348 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, making me feel like I'm 349 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: not the only one, because you know, We're gonna be real. 350 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: We're still a lot of men. Most men still operate 351 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: with a traditional classically masculine persona and ideology that's tied 352 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: to patriarchy, and that can be that has lots of 353 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: evidence that that doesn't lead to good things in certain situations, 354 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: white supremacy. You know, these these traditional gender norms are 355 00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: tend to be unhealthy and in their best their typhone. 356 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: If there worse, they're Kevin Samuels, right, And so you know, 357 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: I don't I don't expect every brother to be as 358 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 1: deep into the leftist theory as I am. But a 359 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: lot of brothers don't like how black women, especially online, 360 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: talk about us and perceive us. And it's because we've 361 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: allowed these Well before I used to say, it's because 362 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: we've allowed these other men to speak for us on 363 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: social media platforms. And what I found out after getting 364 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: on here is that it's almost impossible to be a 365 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: black man and gain a platform without doing that crazy shit. 366 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because the algorithm will not 367 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: reward it. I gotta go on. It's gotta be one, 368 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: it's got to be more than just got be. But 369 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: let's take that statement that all more of them will 370 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: not reward it. And people are making a living off 371 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: of the Internet. And if you don't have something that's 372 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 1: salacious or a spirited then you're not going to make 373 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: the money that you you possibly could, or at least 374 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: making other people money. You gotta be able to make 375 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: other people money if you ain't got that other stuff. 376 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: Isn't this doubly triplely dangerous for black folk? Oh yeah, 377 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: like to engage in this kind of behavior. Yeah, it's 378 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: it's it's all those things because there and we're also 379 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: furthering the perception of who we are. Yeah, yeah, we 380 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: continuing that. It's it's it's a very hard So, like 381 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: I got on because I did some uh I pults me. 382 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: So I don't know some Michael Eric Dyson, uh some 383 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: Uh what's the what's the Van Jones? I did some 384 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: really good like, Hey, I'm a here's a video. I 385 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: am an intelligent I mean to stand up intellectual black man. 386 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: Yes I am intellectual black man that I love black 387 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: women Jones. But yes, I will talk to you about race, 388 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: but I won't make you feel so bad. Here's me 389 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: explaining to all the things. And so like I didn't 390 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: know I was doing that. I was just making videos 391 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: and then but I started to see like who I 392 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: was attracting with that. Now I was like, okay, okay, 393 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm seeing how to split together. So my next video, 394 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: I'm starting out talking about the Saint Louis Race riots 395 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: first vide, I'll have to hit a million views my 396 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: next video. I started out with the Saint Louis Race riots. 397 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: But to kind of like say yes to you know 398 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: what YA was saying. I got on by proving myself 399 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: valuable to a whole different audience. And once I kind 400 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: of had that in hand, I started saying, how can 401 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: I serve essentially two masters? How can I bring out 402 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: all this other stuff that is truly more important to 403 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: me as a creator, but also make sure that algorithm 404 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: respects my gangster and keeps on showing people my videos 405 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: because people will have a million subscribers. But every video 406 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: is a new as a news. It's like I call 407 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: it a credit score. It's like a credit check. And 408 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: so like, right now, I got really good credit. So 409 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: if I drop a video, YouTube's like, hey, send that 410 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: nigga video everywhere. If we're good, that bore good. But 411 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: if I drop a couple of turns a couple of 412 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 1: joints that don't do well people not feeling them. It's 413 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: going to drop my credit score, and even if even 414 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: if nobody unsubscribed to my channel, it's going to be 415 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: hard for my video to reach as many people as 416 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: it did if I kept that credit score up. Thus 417 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: like and share. So in that mindset, there's a formula. 418 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm guessing that you know this. There's like it must 419 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: be at least a few things that you do for 420 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: Relic in every video to kind of know that this 421 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: will at least get me here, right? Are there things 422 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: like that something like that? Like I know, so YouTube 423 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: gives you all your data and tells you about your 424 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: audience or who your audience watching, what they're searching for, etc. 425 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: So like, right now, my audience has been really like 426 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: I made a Lauren Hill video a couple of months back, 427 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: and so like people keep searching for Lauren Hill and 428 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: find my video. So like the algorithms telling me, hey, 429 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: making another Lauren Hill video, and I'm like, I don't 430 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: know if you understand that that's not going to really work. 431 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna trust my own instincts and then try to 432 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: do like Lauren Hill all the time and lose a 433 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 1: lot of people. So it gives you data. So yes, 434 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: like my next video, the video, I got a video 435 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: coming out in two weeks that's just gonna be all 436 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: about drama and like a lot of what I'm talking 437 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: to y'a all about, right, So I know that's gonna kill. 438 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: And then after that, I'm going to talk about men's desirability, 439 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: which I know I have a strong male fan base 440 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of women that want to learn 441 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: and understand men better, So I know that video's gonna 442 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: do well. After that, I'm talking about black leftist movements 443 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: and black political movements from like you know, I'm explaining 444 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: how Mark the King and Malcolm X are really socialists 445 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. That'll be good, right, the same audience, 446 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: And exactly I'm gonna wait for that video, right right, 447 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: you have worried about my drama videos. I'm gonna talk 448 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: about these white folks thisssing me on the back end, 449 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: right I know they are. But then I'm gonna come 450 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: back to give you some life when I get back 451 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: to this Fred Hampton, Uh the King stuff, w boys, 452 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: black nationalism stuff. It's like, okay, now, I gotta pull 453 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: y'all back in, because that's that's why I want to 454 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: say anywhere this is mind blowing because people don't really, 455 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, people respect content creators enough to know that, Like, 456 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 1: do y'all realize that this man just said he has 457 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: already prepared for four shows, like he's a month ahead 458 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: and it's more than that months? How many months? I'm 459 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: four videos down right now? So four months if I 460 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: release one one a month, okay, you know my and 461 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: then all of that to the thing is one for 462 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: the algorithm, one for the fans, one for you, hold 463 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: on right, one for the did your school listen? Write 464 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: it down? Down? One more time? The man has damn 465 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: there half a million subscribers. That's done a year and 466 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: a half. One for the algorithm, come on. Two one 467 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: for the fans, one for the fans, one for you, 468 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: one for you. I'm doing like I'm doing like two 469 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: for the algorithm, one for the ands, and then one 470 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: for me. Um And that last one is uh is 471 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: a I almost don't want to say it because I 472 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: just wanted to be a surprise with people. It's about 473 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: a rapper. It's about a rapper that don't nobody talk 474 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: about no more. But he's low key one of the 475 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: most influential rappers to ever spit but like he was 476 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 1: such a a weird, unique figure that like he just 477 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: kind of disappeared. Nope, Nope. When I tell this story, 478 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna be like you right, You're right. I don't. 479 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: I still like them, but because I don't like him, 480 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: he's hilarious to me. But when I when I went 481 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: through his story, I was like, Yo, this story is like, 482 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: this is like one of the most important figures in 483 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: hip hop is alive. He's still alive. He's still making 484 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: music too. But you gotta wait till like March March, 485 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: March April ish. That's when the show, that's when you're doing. 486 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: That's when that video is going to Oh my god, 487 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,479 Speaker 1: I gotta get my min together. That is a beautiful planning, 488 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: it is. But this is the thing, right, So, if 489 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: you're gonna be righteous, I'm sorry, if you're going to 490 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: even try to be righteous in these on these platforms, 491 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: in these streets, you have to be very intentional. And 492 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: what that has to tell you is that those who 493 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: don't mean you any good are also intentional. Who if 494 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: who who claim to be righteous, but everything about them 495 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: says that they are feeding the algorithm. They want the 496 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 1: algorithm to reward them. And so these are things I 497 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: need to be clear on. Yeah, is this so, is 498 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: this an entire world of for lack of a better phrase, sellouts. 499 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's selling out now though, but it for 500 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: different purposes. Yeah, I would say it's for the same purpose. 501 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: It's just easier to do it now. And it's more 502 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: like the rewards are more instant, you know what I mean, Like, 503 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: can you talk about that? Can you talk about the rewards? 504 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: The rewards are clout, fame, money, you know what I'm saying, 505 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: and low effort like the thing that's the other thing 506 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: that's crazy. So let's you know, insert I'm much again. 507 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to not throw shave it. Insert like 508 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: Raggedy Nigga here with a platform, right, you know, just 509 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: putting in your head and then think about how much 510 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: work I put for agencies. You've watched, You've seen how 511 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: much work I'll be putting in my videos. You know, 512 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: I'm writing ten thousand words scripts. I got a whole editor, 513 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: I paid for per project. I got music direction from 514 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: my head, I got art direction. I'm on Twitter. I'm 515 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: managing like I'm doing all kinds of stuff because I 516 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: know the algorithm. I gotta keep showing it's it's really 517 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: on some twice as good for half as much shit. 518 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: But if I was a coofye nigga that just wanted 519 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: to shoot on black women, I could easily make the 520 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: same amount, do the same numbers, and and with like 521 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: a fraction of the effort. Like you look at you 522 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: look at Kevin Samuels's rise, like he never even had 523 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: decent audio, Like he never got he never figured out. Yeah, 524 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: but no, right he show up, he says. And the 525 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: funniest thing is when you hear people say, the excuse 526 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: that most folks would make for Kevin Samuels is that 527 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: he just really wanted to help black people. You know 528 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, He's just running black men and women 529 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: to get right and get married, et cetera, et cetera. 530 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: Which if you, if you stretch, you could you could 531 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: pull that out of his content. But what you what 532 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: you realize if you do the research, is that whatever 533 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: positive he was doing, what didn't nobody care? What nobody 534 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: paying attention until he started embarrassing black women. And when 535 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: he started embarrassing black women. Yeah, suddenly the floodgates opened 536 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: for him to get more attention. He started going viral 537 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: over and over again, and then he became this prophet 538 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: to people. You know what I'm saying, it's like, oh 539 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: were you what did you come for? When did you? 540 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: When did you get there? Because he would talk bad 541 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: as he would talk just as bad about black men 542 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: as he did black women on at times. It's just 543 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: that those pieces wouldn't always take it out of the 544 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: into virility. And is this cross cultural? What I'm asking 545 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: is if an Asian man did the same to Asian women, 546 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: if a Latin like is it just asked the question? Yeah, sorry, 547 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: it's number one? Is this cross cultural? Where it occurs? 548 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: And number two, would they be as successful or are 549 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: we just the most successful at this because of black 550 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: women being in the target. It's it's so this a 551 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: both end. So yes, it's cross cultural. However, shitting on 552 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: black people is like the top tier. That's the that's 553 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: the code, is it, Kobe b for that's the that's 554 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: the top of the top of the food chain. One 555 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: thing I realized, so within the manisphere, there are no 556 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: major white figures, none of the major figures in the 557 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: manisphere that have been successful over the years have been 558 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: white men. They've all been South Asian. Um uh, we'll 559 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: say racially yea South Asian, not East Asian. That's a 560 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: very clear thing. They're a South Asian racially ambiguous, right, Well, 561 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: we're talking about as a guy, one of the new guys. 562 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: It's his name is Hamza. He's not as overtly toxic, 563 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: but he is a South Asian man from the UK, 564 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: very dark skinned, very good shape, and it's it's something 565 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: about how we consume. One thing people don't think about 566 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: is how everybody We talk about patriarchy in general, and 567 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: understandably so we're usually thinking about how patriarchy affects women 568 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: because women are usually on the receiving end of the 569 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: worst effects of patriarchy. But we don't always we don't 570 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: always have a good breakdown of how patriarchy is fueled 571 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: by the bodies the humanity of men, and the most 572 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: useful fuel is always going to be men of color, 573 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: because patriarchy of a self is a white supremacist construct. 574 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: So white men don't want to see other white men. 575 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,479 Speaker 1: We don't want to see other white men acting crazy 576 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: towards their women. That ruins the mystique. We are on 577 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: a pedestal, so you're not supposed to do that. You 578 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: can't be doing that. So if you are a white man, 579 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: you can talk crazy about and trust me, those dudes 580 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: are out there, but they'll never be big because they 581 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: will be like there's an internal element especially and proud 582 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: boys don't do that. They do they do on the load, 583 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: but we just do that doesn't make it out. There's 584 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: plenty of like proud boys have done, they do on 585 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: the load, but that doesn't make it. That doesn't make 586 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: it out. What that doesn't go viral, that doesn't go 587 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: to the top their success? Yes, what gives them? Do 588 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: they get out? You know with the racism and the qcause. 589 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: But for for misogyny, we have it because it has 590 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: to be men of color, because misogyny is only really 591 00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: okay against women of color who are real them in 592 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: to begin with, I can't deal with these truths. Put 593 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: this to these people. No, no, seriously, listen, Oh babay, 594 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: my edges are tangling because they're growing. A tan is 595 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,959 Speaker 1: coming in. It's so thick to see the hair growing. 596 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: It's like a y and silky Jill Okay, I think 597 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: I think she is shocked. Ladies and gentlemen, Jill, I 598 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: think she. I don't know. We're gonna take a quick 599 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: break and then we'll be right back. I want you 600 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: to keep going about the humanity of men and how 601 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: patriarchy really affects them as a black women, because no, 602 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: seriously no, because this is something we don't talk about. 603 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 1: There is there does seem to be to be an 604 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: uptick and black men who are starting to express just 605 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: how heavy this load has been. Unfortunately some of them 606 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 1: tend to express that frustration towards black women. But help us, 607 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: help us to help them or help them to make 608 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: this connection as to who is really at fault for 609 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: the fact that you don't feel human and that how 610 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: patriarchy is really like chilling on your shoulder's head neck 611 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: back on a chess daily. So let's let's be clear. 612 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: The source of this problem is white supremacist capitalist patriarchy. 613 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: Now us, that's your good old Bill Hooks. And some 614 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: brothers hate hate on Bill Hooks. But like I ain't 615 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: one of them. You know what I'm saying. Every every 616 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: scholar has their flaws. Bill Hooks as less than most 617 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: and gives and gave gave life when I needed it 618 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: as a black man, when I was having my sons 619 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: um And so it starts with that because black people 620 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: were never meant to like embody these gender norms and 621 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: like ideals as we strive to do. And I'm not 622 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: saying you should do that. I'm I am a heterosexual man, 623 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,720 Speaker 1: bread winner. Now offer YouTube money. Two kids, two boys, 624 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: were raising them as boys until further notice, Like I 625 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: am not put pulling the classic nature of of what's 626 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: it's safe is to do as a human in this country. 627 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: It's safe is to just go with the flow unless 628 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: you can't do it right. But what happens is we 629 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: start to think, and this is something, this is a 630 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: survival tactic from black people. We say, yo, you keep 631 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: doing this other shit. We can't stop stop that. You 632 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. As little girls, it was you 633 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: acting fast. Pull you know that skirt too short? You 634 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. The attitude is too loose, whatever 635 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: it is, and that is a protective like that's a 636 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: goal of protecting you, but it's an attack on your humanity, 637 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. At the same time, and 638 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: we don't always have the language to say you know, 639 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, big Mama didn't have the language to say, yo, 640 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying to protect you from these streets or from 641 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,479 Speaker 1: those people, from the boys, whatever that little big Mama said. 642 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 1: If you don't sit your ass down, I'm gonna get you, 643 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like, and so without unpacking that, 644 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: these things just become regular, normal statistical stuff does. And 645 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: so with boys it's worse because over time a lot 646 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: of women, you all develop a you all have more 647 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 1: opportunities to develop a critical lens on how you're treated 648 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: because you're you're you're you want to survive, right, You're 649 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: like trying to survive situations that I ain't. Like when 650 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,280 Speaker 1: my all let my wife get gass here in Atlanta, 651 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: Like if the guards gotta get gassed up and I'm not, 652 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: and I'm not, Like my wife will take off the garbage, 653 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 1: but she won't get gas. You know what I'm saying, 654 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: I'm not even knowing that like a real man whatever, 655 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: I don't do that. But I know that if somebody 656 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: gonna get if I might go to the gas station 657 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: get robbed, my wife might go and get robbed and 658 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: kidnap you feel me, So it's a different set of risks. Yeah, 659 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: And so women develop this critical lens there's so much 660 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: out there for women to develop this critical lens um 661 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 1: at different stages in life. There's just so much there. 662 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: But for men we are kind of held to this no, 663 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: but you gotta be the men. And and a real 664 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: man does blank, And it's like, what if I don't 665 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: do that, does that make am I no longer real man? 666 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 1: And from that unfill so much trauma. And because of 667 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,720 Speaker 1: the nature of emotions among men, we can't even unpack 668 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: that trauma. So we drink it, we smoke it, we 669 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: beat it, you know what I mean, we take it 670 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: out on y'all. Um. Like the thing a thing that 671 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,240 Speaker 1: every every brother, So two things that almost every brother 672 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: you talk to will tell you is he probably he 673 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,919 Speaker 1: was told he had to stop crying, and a woman 674 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: probably told him, and a woman probably told him ye. 675 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: And then he probably lost his virginity well before he 676 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: was ready to be engaged in sexual activity to a 677 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: woman that was way older than him. And though and 678 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 1: and and like, so you have men and so these 679 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: are like foundational experiences that black men, in particular, we 680 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: are more um exposed to these risk factors. Um, And 681 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: we've been dealing with this for as long as y'all 682 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: been dealing with everything y'all have been dealing with. We're 683 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: talking about general rate, we're talking about posts reconstruction, we've 684 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 1: been dealing with this ship and we still like the 685 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: sex thing, the the the habitual, the the the ritual 686 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: rape of black boys still hasn't entered this conversation. We're 687 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: at least talking about the crime, about the heaviness, right 688 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: we have, Yeah, we had a whole episode about this. Yeah, yeah, 689 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,720 Speaker 1: y'all Black men and losing verity so young to older women, 690 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: and brothers ain't ready to have that conversation. I still can't. 691 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: It's still hard for me to get a brother to 692 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: think about whether or not him losing his virginity at 693 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,399 Speaker 1: thirteen to a thirty year old was a healthy thing 694 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: for him, you know what I mean. And you look 695 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: at some of the brothers, brothers, and this is and 696 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: this is where it gets complex, right because because we're 697 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 1: talking about the problem, right, why supremacist superstructure, right, But 698 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 1: we in community together. So when I start yelling who 699 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: I'm ana hit first, I'm a yellow one of y'all. 700 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: And if I get hurt, who I'm gonna get hurt, 701 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna get hurt by one of y'all. And 702 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,359 Speaker 1: so like, it becomes complex because we we we see 703 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: who we see in the news on a regular basis 704 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: as black Man, Nick Cannon, the baby Chris Brown once 705 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,760 Speaker 1: upon a time, Mike Tyson, all of those brothers, Little Wayne, 706 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: all of those brothers are victims of child sexual assault 707 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: that they that they r Kelly, I forgot about. Did 708 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:50,479 Speaker 1: I call it? Did not call it? Yea call it? Yeah? Yeah, Oh, 709 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You asked me what was wrong with me earlier? 710 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: Nothing's wrong with me. I'm just receiving all of this information, 711 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 1: and it's hiding. It's it's heavy, it's it's very very heavy, 712 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,720 Speaker 1: because you know, they're absolutely incredible men that I love, 713 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: and I have a son, and I have nephews, and 714 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: I'm watching this negative energy towards all of us, towards 715 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: all of us. Bitches ain't shit, niggas, ain't worth nothing. 716 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: You gotta get that money, get money off them. Niggas. 717 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 1: They're not people anymore. They're not human beings in any way, 718 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 1: shape or form. There are means to an end and 719 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,919 Speaker 1: that is all. And that is very painful to me 720 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: for just just for the future. It is very painful 721 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 1: to me as a woman. I'm like in anytime. Okay, 722 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 1: for instance, um, something very close to me is an 723 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 1: incredible philanthropist on a regular basis. And I'm and I'm 724 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: not saying once a month, I'm talking come out once 725 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 1: a week. It's a whole effort to get homeless people 726 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: food and shelter and shoes and socks, you know, supplying 727 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, crates and crates of socks for people like 728 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 1: you don't even think about it, but if you don't 729 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: have anything warm feet, like really really matter it, really 730 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,319 Speaker 1: really mad. It's okay, So all of these gestures to 731 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: be kind and on his social media he'll get like 732 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: sixteen likes, sixteen, But that girl over there, who is 733 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 1: in a different outfit with you know, the same background, 734 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:41,879 Speaker 1: is clapping her booty cheeks and she's about thousands of likes. Well, Jill, 735 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: have you seen anything when people do now they put 736 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: the little they put a girl who's like dancing tantally 737 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: with a little outfit on to get your attention and 738 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 1: then need to get your attention. And that's I think 739 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: that that's genus verse. Every time I see that, I think, Yes, 740 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: Lupa had a verse of one of his mixtapes where 741 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: he was like, Niples is nuclear missiles, Uh, you know 742 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: Loupelupe and so like it's on an old mixtape, and 743 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 1: he was talking about like, if I want to really 744 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: get some shit out, I gotta put it next to 745 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 1: the sexy to the sex syed right right right. And 746 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out, Okay, we know we're 747 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: aware of all the harms because the Adam motherfucker, so 748 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 1: niggas hear me something like that I got on the shirt. 749 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: So so how how on earth do we make this 750 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,359 Speaker 1: work for our benefit? Like, I think that that's an 751 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 1: excellent suggestion. I've actually suggested that to them before, like 752 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: get to get a big booty Judie, let her dance 753 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: for about zero seven seconds and switch over to these 754 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 1: people are hungry in the country, right, and this is 755 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: what we're doing, and we'd appreciate some more support if 756 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 1: you could just you know, because it could be you 757 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: at any time. There's a conversation about you know, the 758 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 1: quote about the Master's tools, um, and yeah, I always 759 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 1: I'm always like, yeah, but I don't know, man, these short, 760 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 1: these swords are sharp, like these these tools is efficient 761 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:17,959 Speaker 1: and so like there's I mean, like number one, intercommunal 762 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: local organizing is like it's key for anything you're doing 763 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 1: because you always be more beholden to the people who 764 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 1: you see I rl um or or online. You'll I'm sorry, 765 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 1: that's okay, Like and I'm forty, Like I ain't that 766 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 1: young personal zomig, we don't know that us us No, 767 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 1: that's fine, but as gen xers anyway, we are in 768 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 1: the height of having to keep up. So I'm not 769 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: surprised at your forty because we're the ones that got 770 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 1: to balance all this ship. Yeah, you're just a geriatric 771 00:44:52,520 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 1: midillennials beyond my ass, boy, I mean, you ain't got that. Yeah, 772 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: what's that? Can you can? You can you email that 773 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 1: to me? Email? Like right right? But yeah, they they 774 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 1: we gotta you know, local organization is useful, you know 775 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, just it starts with community because 776 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 1: communities will have like the research shows that the communities 777 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 1: that have the least amount of problems are the ones 778 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 1: that are the closest. Because you're not gonna rob the 779 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,439 Speaker 1: store of your homeboy, auntie. You know what I mean. 780 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 1: You're not gonna break in your and your and your 781 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 1: sister's boyfriend or baby daddy house unless unless you're you know, 782 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 1: unless that was the plan. But you get my point. 783 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 1: Like generally, community is always a key, Yeah, But beyond that, 784 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: while we're in here, while we're on these platforms, we 785 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 1: gotta just we gotta step up the game, and we 786 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:54,439 Speaker 1: gotta really like learn and understand how these systems work, 787 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 1: how they are not built and it's not And I 788 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 1: want to be clear, the system is a reflection of society. 789 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 1: It's a reflection of the people's reflection of where we are. 790 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: And let's I want to people want people say I 791 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 1: keep talking about the system, and I'm like, yeah, well, 792 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 1: if he fixed the system, the people will follow. But 793 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: I got to be clear, the people are there as well. Um. 794 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: But if we take advantage of how these systems work 795 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 1: and we understand how they maneuver, we can get certain 796 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 1: messages out there and grow. Like Kendrick Lamar is a 797 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,320 Speaker 1: good example. Like when you when you like Kendra Lamar, 798 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,359 Speaker 1: ain't did a whole song about trans understand the trans people. 799 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 1: This biggest rapper in the world did a whole song 800 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 1: about understanding trans people. It wasn't the perfect like you know, 801 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 1: like academic understood everything, but it's started the conversation you 802 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: never expected to come from the biggest rapper in the world. 803 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 1: I almost wish he would come outside more, but I'm like, 804 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 1: in a social way, just to fight some of the 805 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,720 Speaker 1: other stuff like that. I saw him on a commercial 806 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 1: recently and I was like, damn, he don't do commercials. 807 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 1: This is crazy because you don't come out. But but 808 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,320 Speaker 1: I think it's because of what we're talking about. It 809 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 1: is just the fact that it's like if you engage 810 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 1: too much, it can you can open yourself up to 811 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 1: the toxicity of it all, and it can shift you motivation, 812 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 1: it can shift what your you know, your ideals and 813 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: what's important to you. To have to kind of retreat 814 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 1: is important because you talked about community, but also think 815 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 1: it's that place to retreat, to pull out and to 816 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: reconnect to what it is is truly important to you 817 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: because and to reassess what your actual values are, like 818 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 1: why am I here? Why am I doing this? What 819 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 1: is my purpose? You know what I'm saying, because unfortunately 820 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,359 Speaker 1: it's the quiet of it all. Another thing that we had. 821 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,319 Speaker 1: You know, obviously, you know we all you know, our 822 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 1: members at the church and in that ministry. You know 823 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So even when we talk about rest 824 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,400 Speaker 1: and that that kind of taking that moment to be 825 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,280 Speaker 1: able to have space to think about our ideas because 826 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,359 Speaker 1: there's so much rick, there's so much noise, there's so 827 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,239 Speaker 1: much going on that you know, you don't even have 828 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,399 Speaker 1: a chance to decide what you feel or think about 829 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 1: a thing. It's being dictated to you every single day, 830 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: all day long, and you'll be sitting up there spitting 831 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 1: an opinion. It's not even your opinion, it's it's the 832 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 1: shit you heard three or four and that's something that 833 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 1: you heard. You don't even know you know heard. You 834 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, to really think about how those 835 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,920 Speaker 1: things affect the person to your left. You're right, your 836 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 1: front and your back. I tell people all the time, 837 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 1: people be talking about all this stuff about relationships, and 838 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 1: they grandma and the women ain't how they used to be. 839 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 1: I said, tell me, you ain't never had a conversation 840 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,319 Speaker 1: with your grandma without telling me you ain't never had 841 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 1: a conversation with your grandma. Come on, tell me that 842 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 1: tell me you have never had a conversation with your 843 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 1: grandma without telling me that you ain't never had a 844 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,359 Speaker 1: conversation with your grandma, right, say shit like women ain't 845 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 1: how they used to be Grandma, grandpa, stay together, y'all 846 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 1: came like you ever hear what grandma? I have to 847 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 1: deal with the statement exactly. And somebody tweeted this and 848 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: I will not take credit for this. Ign't remember the 849 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 1: girl's neighbor, she said, first of her. The reason why 850 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:09,840 Speaker 1: some of us don't do the same things our grandma's 851 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 1: did because some of our grandmas pulled our asses off 852 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:16,959 Speaker 1: to the side and said, don't do this, don't do that. 853 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,879 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So it's like it is 854 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,799 Speaker 1: that the beauty of conversation, you know, and not to 855 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 1: not to be on our whole, Like let's turn it 856 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 1: full circle to what we do here at Drey darn Ill. 857 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 1: But that is what we do here. We're having a 858 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 1: conversation because at the end of the day, the culture 859 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 1: part of it is the harder part to change. Yeah, yeah, 860 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 1: it's because people some of the factors. And one thing 861 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 1: you said that also, I think connects to something Jill 862 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 1: just said, like a lot of brothers are in survival 863 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 1: more in a way that I don't think, Like, I 864 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,479 Speaker 1: think women want to understand, and I think women think 865 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 1: they understand what I'm telling y'all, y'all don't understand. No, 866 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,839 Speaker 1: we know, we don't understand. We know, we just want to. 867 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 1: We do want to. I think you, like a lot 868 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 1: of women do know that. But I think the nature 869 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 1: the energy, especially on social media, it feels like a 870 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 1: lot of brothers just feel like they're being talked down 871 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 1: to and talked over when they're trying to speak to 872 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 1: certain things. But even before that, right, Like, that's like 873 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,440 Speaker 1: when we get into these frivolous, you know, gender wars conversations, 874 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 1: and I don't give a lot of credence to that 875 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 1: because so much of that is just for low key entertainment. 876 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,959 Speaker 1: When I'm talking about like Jill's nephews, right what they what? 877 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 1: What has to be recognized. I talked about this in 878 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 1: the video I can't if y'all want to watch me 879 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 1: like this conversation with another brother from Chicago who like 880 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 1: is also deep into this um I talked about, y'all 881 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,960 Speaker 1: remember the story of Yummy Sandiford. I don't he was 882 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,319 Speaker 1: he was a thirteen year old Chicago, and I guess 883 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,439 Speaker 1: this would have had to be ninety five, ninety six. 884 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,719 Speaker 1: That guy, that guy he was. It's it's it's a 885 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 1: horrible story. I don't want to get too deep into 886 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 1: the story, but like that story haunts me because that 887 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,799 Speaker 1: at thirteen, even in the sub birds, it hit me 888 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 1: like what black male humanity was really worse. I had 889 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,799 Speaker 1: heard the Immett Till story before, which is also like, 890 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 1: you know, a scarring thing, and I had, you know, 891 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 1: heard such and such gang violence, whatever, whatever. But when 892 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 1: that boy's face popped up on the news, it took 893 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 1: a piece from it, like it took a piece from 894 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,840 Speaker 1: me that I have yet to get back because I 895 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 1: see it in my son's eyes. And by the way, 896 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 1: my son just had a little boy died. My son 897 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 1: and we go to a good school. Little boy got 898 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,799 Speaker 1: shot at the bowling now a couple of weeks ago, 899 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 1: soever years old. They didn't gone, and my son came 900 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 1: out of school. He was like, Dad, you did you 901 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:45,879 Speaker 1: hear about the little boy that got shot? And I'm like, yeah, man, well, 902 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:47,719 Speaker 1: and I almost said, like I didn't say this, but 903 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,400 Speaker 1: it's like it was like I here, we go, this 904 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 1: is the beginning of this conversation. And so what these 905 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,719 Speaker 1: boys need, what your nephews need, your sons, is they 906 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:02,800 Speaker 1: need opportunity to take off that armor that they're building 907 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 1: because they see this, they see what just happened in Memphis. 908 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They see how how black 909 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 1: men are depicted, how we depict ourselves, and they start 910 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,840 Speaker 1: they start adding plis, they start adding shelves, and that 911 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,759 Speaker 1: allows them to be callous to women. That allows them 912 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,959 Speaker 1: to be callous to each other, you know what I'm saying. 913 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 1: And like that is and that's why I, even though 914 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 1: I'm critical, I try to hold space because I'm lucky 915 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 1: enough to have had a relatively emotionally engaged father and 916 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 1: a lot of of like emotionally engaged men and strong 917 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 1: black women who said I not really though, like like 918 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:46,560 Speaker 1: you be okay, protect you, mentors, access whatever. So I've 919 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 1: never had to armor up like some of these brothers said. 920 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,839 Speaker 1: This typeree thing is really making I feel like two, 921 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 1: it's a whole other level of brother's arm armor, Like 922 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 1: this has just been heavy for all of us as 923 00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:03,319 Speaker 1: a community. But you know, yeah, because I think that 924 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 1: the thing is that like the humanity aspect, you said, 925 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 1: like you like here, it goes right here here, here's 926 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,239 Speaker 1: the beginning of it. For me to look at my 927 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 1: son's and think, you know, I think a similar thing happened. 928 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 1: And I wouldn't say similar, but a somewhat similar thing 929 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 1: happens with women. The first time that you have to 930 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 1: talk to your daughter about what's going to happen when 931 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 1: she goes outside, regardless of what she's welcoming or not, 932 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,239 Speaker 1: right that that that moment that you look at your 933 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,279 Speaker 1: twelve year old daughter and you're like, damn it, I 934 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,840 Speaker 1: gotta talk to her about cat calls. I got to 935 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,919 Speaker 1: talk to her about creepy looks. I got to talk 936 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 1: to her about right, I got to talk it's and 937 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 1: and you've got to talk about old If you say 938 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,720 Speaker 1: no that you're gonna be called a bit, you're stuck 939 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 1: up bl blah blah blah blah blah. So there's it's 940 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,600 Speaker 1: similar somewhat, But I understand that the humanity aspect of it, 941 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 1: the life or death aspect of it, it is beyond 942 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,759 Speaker 1: the understanding of not being able to live in that 943 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,160 Speaker 1: body and live in that experience. And I want this 944 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 1: so badly for black men to be able to be 945 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 1: to understand their humanity, and for us to celebrate their 946 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 1: humanity and not in words, in action and understanding all 947 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,759 Speaker 1: of these systems. If you're not having a conversation for me, 948 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,399 Speaker 1: and much love to you, it doesn't affect my love right, 949 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 1: But for me, you can't have a conversation with me 950 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:27,239 Speaker 1: about racism, about white supremacy, if we're not having a 951 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 1: conversation about gender patriarchy, if we're not talking about its 952 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,719 Speaker 1: effect on your humanity in mind, then unfortunately, it is 953 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,400 Speaker 1: not the level of conversation to which I'm interested in 954 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 1: engaging with you about. Like I can love you, I 955 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,160 Speaker 1: can want the best for you, but we are not 956 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,799 Speaker 1: able to have that conversation because it is one in 957 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 1: which I know it's never going to end up in 958 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,920 Speaker 1: your liberation. You're not going to feel like a human 959 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,280 Speaker 1: if you're not going to consider this part of the experience. 960 00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 1: And that's the problem I have with so many soul calls, 961 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 1: so pro black folk that come out here. They don't 962 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:07,359 Speaker 1: they're not really actually talking about the humanity of black men. Yeah, 963 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,839 Speaker 1: they're playing a hit, still talking about a character. They're 964 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 1: still talking about something that don't exist. And that's the thing, 965 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,920 Speaker 1: like imagine, Like, so I don't like to play the 966 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,440 Speaker 1: oppression Olympics because it's it's always going to rail the conversation. 967 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,799 Speaker 1: But the one thing I think that would help is 968 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,680 Speaker 1: we both have this similar experience of like having to 969 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,920 Speaker 1: like the personalized from our humanity as black people a 970 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,440 Speaker 1: man and women as children. But the difference is, I 971 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:41,960 Speaker 1: think women have developed that conversation over generations y'all, But 972 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,839 Speaker 1: like niggas weren't even Like I'm the like niggas didn't 973 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 1: even talk to their fathers until like thirty years ago. 974 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,719 Speaker 1: You hit a dad in the home that nigga did 975 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,959 Speaker 1: not talk to you if you was born before nineteen eighty, 976 00:55:54,640 --> 00:56:00,359 Speaker 1: that's like and like to do that was to teach 977 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 1: you how to be a man. Shut the fuck up 978 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,719 Speaker 1: and do the thing. Watch me and suck it up. 979 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,080 Speaker 1: Watch me. Don't say shit till we don't ask for 980 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,120 Speaker 1: a ug don't ask me how I feel. I don't 981 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:15,480 Speaker 1: got no feelings, nigga, I'm surviving offenses and so like, 982 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 1: we haven't developed that stuff. And so that's what I 983 00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 1: think a lot of brothers are doing now. And it's 984 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,359 Speaker 1: hard because and I'm gonna just keep it real. It's 985 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,799 Speaker 1: hard on all lovers y'all can think of. It's there's 986 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,759 Speaker 1: a lot of brothers that's so invested in patriarch and 987 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,280 Speaker 1: they're like, these niggas soft, these niggas gay, these niggasist 988 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,759 Speaker 1: is niggas that we need the real man to stand up. 989 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,799 Speaker 1: That's what we need. And it's like, all right, y'all 990 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,759 Speaker 1: been here for a minute, We see what y'all been 991 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,840 Speaker 1: spending your time on. So it's a lot of that, 992 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,879 Speaker 1: right white spens. But a thing that doesn't get talked 993 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:47,920 Speaker 1: about is women are invested in that caricature as much 994 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 1: as men are. Oh yeah, yeah man or a strong 995 00:56:53,200 --> 00:57:02,360 Speaker 1: man right right then that nigga was emotional, and that's 996 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:07,240 Speaker 1: don't do that. Don't do that. You know, it's can balance, 997 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 1: that's all us I'm saying, as us. The balance is 998 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:29,760 Speaker 1: all fair. More conversation after the break. Can I can 999 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 1: I propose how to fix this thing? I don't know. 1000 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,439 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think you know, this goes 1001 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,600 Speaker 1: back to how do we eat an elephant? You know 1002 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 1: one by that at the time deep programming programming process 1003 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 1: because because because it can go either way, when when 1004 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,520 Speaker 1: you when you're dealing with the man, and then the 1005 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:53,120 Speaker 1: man is for emotional You know that can't work either. 1006 00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,800 Speaker 1: It's irrational. It's a risk for y'all different than us, 1007 00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Because yeah, like y'all just 1008 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 1: needs to be normal, because you never know which dude is, 1009 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 1: like right, But I need you to have at least 1010 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,440 Speaker 1: five emotions, and not just to please oh please. I 1011 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,720 Speaker 1: don't care about the number of emotions. I just need 1012 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,680 Speaker 1: you to maybe like develop a little bit of your 1013 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,800 Speaker 1: ability to have the words that match them. Thank you, 1014 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:21,960 Speaker 1: like just say I don't. You can say all the 1015 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 1: things you want to feel, like bro, but if it's 1016 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:28,200 Speaker 1: if it's if it's jealousy, if it's an abandoned men, 1017 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:33,480 Speaker 1: if it's if it's you know whatever, whatever, the words are, happy, joy, whatever. 1018 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,240 Speaker 1: I just when I went to therapy, I got this 1019 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,520 Speaker 1: picture of a yarn, right, and it was called the 1020 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,440 Speaker 1: Ball of Emotions, and on all the little pieces of 1021 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,880 Speaker 1: yarn were different feeling words. And I realize how little 1022 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:52,200 Speaker 1: feeling word vocabulary I had as an adult person. And 1023 00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,840 Speaker 1: that's why I don't fault men or anybody for not 1024 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,640 Speaker 1: having this language. I'm just asking that we all try 1025 00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,240 Speaker 1: because if we can communicate with feeling, that changes and 1026 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,720 Speaker 1: it all cooking humanizes you towards each other. If you 1027 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 1: can say this, this is what I am feeling. If 1028 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:11,600 Speaker 1: you have to default to happy or sad, angry, happy, sad, angry, 1029 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:16,800 Speaker 1: oh God in the bathroom, you need more than that. Yeah. 1030 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,600 Speaker 1: I just feel like they don't get hurt. And this 1031 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,040 Speaker 1: is real. As a brother, you don't get hurt if 1032 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:25,040 Speaker 1: you unless you're angry or lustful or violent, you know 1033 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,920 Speaker 1: what I mean. That's when we that's that's a that's 1034 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,520 Speaker 1: a Bill Hooks quote. You know what I'm saying. Black 1035 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,640 Speaker 1: man receive the most attention when they're violetly acting out. 1036 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,640 Speaker 1: And you don't think that's changing a little bit. It's 1037 00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,880 Speaker 1: changing because I just said to a brother the other day, 1038 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,400 Speaker 1: I was like, he said, you know, he said he 1039 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,560 Speaker 1: got electric tooth brush and a therapist. And I was like, nigga, 1040 00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:47,520 Speaker 1: you don't know how sexy that's saying. And an electric 1041 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:51,280 Speaker 1: two brush. You are evolved black man. And that's the frontier. 1042 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:55,560 Speaker 1: I think I'm one where so things are growing and changing, right, 1043 00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,920 Speaker 1: and so some dudes are really feeling, they start to 1044 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,640 Speaker 1: feel insecure about the they status because like dudes will 1045 01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,080 Speaker 1: come in the room be like, I'm an alpha male. 1046 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,240 Speaker 1: I'm an alpha male. I don't need emotions. I got 1047 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 1: ten women, I got I got what the bugattis. That's 1048 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,760 Speaker 1: what Andrew Table was talking about. And it's like and 1049 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,800 Speaker 1: like there are less women have y'all are y'all look 1050 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,920 Speaker 1: at you know, y'all like this, This doesn't look like 1051 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 1: a healthy brother. The build life went to connect too 1052 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,720 Speaker 1: long term. But this dude over here with the electric toothbrush, 1053 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,640 Speaker 1: in the in the in the plants, Yes, you plant 1054 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,720 Speaker 1: and it's healthy. Yeah. So like you if you got 1055 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,240 Speaker 1: to announce that you're an alpha male, you ain't be 1056 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 1: an alpha male if you if you, if you'll you 1057 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,240 Speaker 1: know the my video coming up, we're talking about desirability. 1058 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,360 Speaker 1: And it's like the funny thing that I found through 1059 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,280 Speaker 1: my research. It's something I kind of knew but just 1060 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,040 Speaker 1: didn't have the details on. It's like dudes would be 1061 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,680 Speaker 1: on tender right, Dudes will there'll be they'll be in 1062 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,120 Speaker 1: a gym getting it in right. And so they got 1063 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,360 Speaker 1: the all the all the all the extra bumps and 1064 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,280 Speaker 1: veins that you know, somebody love it. Some ladies like it, 1065 01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 1: but they think all the ladies love it, and so 1066 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:09,520 Speaker 1: they tender thing be like who and it's like ain't no, 1067 01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 1: ain't when they're clicking that bro like if you don't, 1068 01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,720 Speaker 1: if you don't, if you don't cook something. That's me 1069 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,560 Speaker 1: and my husband. Me and my husband will talking about 1070 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 1: this recently about about like R and B music where 1071 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 1: it's just like the old kind of go tos for 1072 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,960 Speaker 1: R and B male singers to like get women going. 1073 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,600 Speaker 1: They don't work anymore, like if you see it, it 1074 01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,640 Speaker 1: just it's not the same that whole humping the stage 1075 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 1: and you got your shirt unbuttoned down to the belly 1076 01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,280 Speaker 1: button and it's like, you know, I've been giving the 1077 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,240 Speaker 1: hey girl, they still work for me. I don't know, 1078 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,200 Speaker 1: I said, I don't know for me as for me 1079 01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,439 Speaker 1: and my study. So I think I'm going to love 1080 01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:51,080 Speaker 1: for the It's nostalgic, baby, it's nostalgic. You old honey 1081 01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:55,680 Speaker 1: is playing too into the nostalgiob. Okay, have you seen Bobby? 1082 01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,200 Speaker 1: I mean I don't, I don't. I don't know what 1083 01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:58,840 Speaker 1: the young bro boys I mean, I got it. I 1084 01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,160 Speaker 1: see it like one of my home he's terb a 1085 01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,720 Speaker 1: shout out to home term he got like, you know, 1086 01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,320 Speaker 1: pink locks, and he got like the choker with the 1087 01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,720 Speaker 1: cross on it, so he like he like a black vampire, 1088 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,560 Speaker 1: and like, I know, i'd be talking to him, like 1089 01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,440 Speaker 1: I'd be careful. There's at a certain point once you 1090 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,520 Speaker 1: get enough subscribers, they're gonna come and you need to 1091 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:24,480 Speaker 1: be responsible and smart about how them dms work, because 1092 01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:29,160 Speaker 1: the dms, you know, it's it's it's it's an interesting experience. 1093 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:30,960 Speaker 1: And I'm not I wasn't a brother, you know, I'm 1094 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:35,560 Speaker 1: I'm from the nineties, so like being the thoughtful, intellectual 1095 01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,600 Speaker 1: shot brother was not getting the panties thrown at me 1096 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 1: in high school. But undergrad I figured out how to 1097 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:46,600 Speaker 1: perform uh masculinity, desirable masculinity, and you know, we got 1098 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:48,880 Speaker 1: some we learned some things, and then I met my 1099 01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,240 Speaker 1: wife and we just grew together and figured it out 1100 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,200 Speaker 1: with each other. But like, if I was to hit 1101 01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:54,800 Speaker 1: the streets again, I'd be like, I don't know what's 1102 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what these folds are doing. Getting all 1103 01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:08,960 Speaker 1: the panties is even a cold like ever since I 1104 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:10,880 Speaker 1: hate that. It's a goal, man. I mean what I 1105 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,800 Speaker 1: said when I said I hate I would prefer you know, honestly, 1106 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,520 Speaker 1: you know, since I'm a mom, you know, and my aunt, 1107 01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,480 Speaker 1: I would prefer for you to choose well that not 1108 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,200 Speaker 1: get it all quality over quantity for real, And I 1109 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,440 Speaker 1: would really love for you to care about your penis. 1110 01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:37,240 Speaker 1: You care about you dick, if you you might want 1111 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:40,480 Speaker 1: to use that. And that's another thing brothers be, you know, 1112 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,320 Speaker 1: like it ain't possible, like some brothers will look like 1113 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:47,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, Jonathan Majors to look like he looks 1114 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,240 Speaker 1: right now. That ain't natural for most men. I think 1115 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,120 Speaker 1: maybe Michael b might be the only dude that ain't 1116 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,640 Speaker 1: working super super look like that. What you mean, y'all, 1117 01:03:56,680 --> 01:04:00,640 Speaker 1: muscle memory is crazy better than ours, it's better in y'alls, 1118 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,800 Speaker 1: but like it still ain't to look like how Jonathan 1119 01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:07,240 Speaker 1: Major's looks right now. Work on that. You gotta work 1120 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,600 Speaker 1: on that in a way that either you got certain 1121 01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 1: chemicals in your body or you got a ridiculous work ethic, 1122 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,720 Speaker 1: you know that. And that work ethic comes out of 1123 01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,880 Speaker 1: costs and it calls certain equipment. Like folks, they won't 1124 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,160 Speaker 1: tell you that, y'all know that that's true, but oh 1125 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,960 Speaker 1: speak the truth. I just heard that, Yeah, and I 1126 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:31,439 Speaker 1: can also attest that there there's certain men that are 1127 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:38,360 Speaker 1: just blessed that way, just blessed what you do, just 1128 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:43,960 Speaker 1: like some women are just ridiculously blessed. God knew not 1129 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:47,960 Speaker 1: to give it to me, He knew she don't know, 1130 01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:51,320 Speaker 1: she don't deserve it. Siana Sailors said, she don't. She 1131 01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,720 Speaker 1: don't exercise at all. She just dance. And it's like, 1132 01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,320 Speaker 1: clearly that's just a blessing, you know what I'm saying. 1133 01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,320 Speaker 1: Some people like it. Some people are like that, I 1134 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,480 Speaker 1: should say, but I'll be trying to tell brothers, like, 1135 01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,360 Speaker 1: look y'all out here, you you're gonna need like you 1136 01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,080 Speaker 1: like Jill just said, you're gonna need that later. Yeah, 1137 01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I didn't think about that. 1138 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:13,560 Speaker 1: You're teaching class today, sir. People like all kinds of 1139 01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:17,640 Speaker 1: things anyway, you know. Also also blood pressure, So blood pressure, 1140 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,600 Speaker 1: please speak on it. I'm gonna Get'm gonna get a 1141 01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:25,080 Speaker 1: little personal right. I'm forty years old. I was diagnosed 1142 01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,440 Speaker 1: so how blood pressure at thirty six ish, and it 1143 01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,360 Speaker 1: runs my family runs in a lot of folks families. 1144 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:34,160 Speaker 1: But also diet, I'm overweight, et cetera. And boy for 1145 01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,480 Speaker 1: for like when I had to first get medicine for 1146 01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:38,560 Speaker 1: that first six months, I was like, oh no, we 1147 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:42,200 Speaker 1: gotta something gotta give because I can't live like this. 1148 01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:44,840 Speaker 1: I can't live like this for the rest of my life. 1149 01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,040 Speaker 1: So um, and think I got started exercising, I got 1150 01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,640 Speaker 1: to lower my dositch and I got functional and I 1151 01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:54,040 Speaker 1: was like, okay, cool, And like, COVID has not been 1152 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,440 Speaker 1: nice to me in this new job where I'm literally 1153 01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,439 Speaker 1: doing this for most of my days has put weight 1154 01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,360 Speaker 1: on me. But you best believe your boy got a 1155 01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,439 Speaker 1: gym membership late last year and I'm trying to work 1156 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:08,120 Speaker 1: it out for you. Some brothers will function, but they're 1157 01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,520 Speaker 1: not in there, like they're not with you. And and 1158 01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure y'all of it. Have you experienced that some 1159 01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,560 Speaker 1: brothers can can can be there with the equipment that 1160 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:19,560 Speaker 1: you need, but the connection that you desire during the act, 1161 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,040 Speaker 1: they and they have been in and out of so 1162 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,000 Speaker 1: many women and so many experiences that they just don't 1163 01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:30,320 Speaker 1: even have the valuative. It's very performed because because a 1164 01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,120 Speaker 1: lot of brothers. I have a video you can watch. 1165 01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,680 Speaker 1: Um it's called a Conservatives are bad at sex um. 1166 01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:40,800 Speaker 1: But I get into that we've going back to how 1167 01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:45,000 Speaker 1: black men are are idealized. Um, you know the man Dingo, 1168 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:48,840 Speaker 1: the pipe layer, you know what I'm saying, the myster 1169 01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:52,360 Speaker 1: fix it, the Jodi, and so a lot of brothers 1170 01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 1: start separating genuine pleasure from sex early on because sex 1171 01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:03,280 Speaker 1: is only about checking off scores, like numbers going up. 1172 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,320 Speaker 1: For a lot of brothers, I don't understand an orgasm, 1173 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,320 Speaker 1: just thinking that it means that something's coming out your body, 1174 01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:13,360 Speaker 1: something coming out body, this feels we want and so like, yeah, 1175 01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,760 Speaker 1: you got to do that. Hopefully you know everybody different, 1176 01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,600 Speaker 1: but like you got to do that for the rest 1177 01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:22,240 Speaker 1: of your life. And like if you start out the 1178 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:28,400 Speaker 1: bat disentangling like pleasure and connection and sensuality from the 1179 01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:32,040 Speaker 1: act of sex. I know, I know brothers that are 1180 01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,520 Speaker 1: interested in sex. Now, I'm sure, y'all. I'm sure, y'all. 1181 01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,840 Speaker 1: If it's not you, no shade. But if it's not you, 1182 01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,480 Speaker 1: you know a girlfriend that's like such and such I've 1183 01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:44,840 Speaker 1: been with forever, it ain't And that comes from not 1184 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:54,160 Speaker 1: coming right. Wow, there's a lot into our glasses. There's 1185 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,480 Speaker 1: a lot being poured into there, and you know we 1186 01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:02,680 Speaker 1: are primarily dehydrated anyway, most of us. So what we're 1187 01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:06,600 Speaker 1: getting is a lot of um is a lot of bullshit. 1188 01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,600 Speaker 1: And what I'm asking you to do as well as 1189 01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:13,360 Speaker 1: myself shit, all of us. We just pay attention to 1190 01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,759 Speaker 1: what is showing up on our social media. Pay attention. 1191 01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:21,280 Speaker 1: If it's a bunch of you know, um, negativity or 1192 01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:27,200 Speaker 1: or or disrespect for black women or black men, you 1193 01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,760 Speaker 1: start blocking the shit. I don't know if that, if 1194 01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,920 Speaker 1: that works in changing your algorithm. No, you got to 1195 01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:37,360 Speaker 1: change your art. No, it's their fault, it's yours, your faults. 1196 01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:39,280 Speaker 1: Start looking at other shit like I do. I am 1197 01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,880 Speaker 1: really manipulating my algorithm. I'm like, I want the right 1198 01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,760 Speaker 1: shopping shit, talk about it. I got friends who their 1199 01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,280 Speaker 1: algorithm is everything. They in the cooking shit all and 1200 01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:49,280 Speaker 1: shit come up, all the people who cook they're to 1201 01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:50,800 Speaker 1: come up. You know what I'm saying. If you're in 1202 01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,479 Speaker 1: the other jewelry and all come up, like you just 1203 01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:57,000 Speaker 1: have to change yo. Shit. It ain't about the internet. 1204 01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:02,200 Speaker 1: You are if you aren't interested in changing your shit. Right, 1205 01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,599 Speaker 1: there's two or three ways to manipulate your algorithm. One, 1206 01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:11,599 Speaker 1: start a whole new account from scratch. If you don't 1207 01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:16,200 Speaker 1: want to do that, Um, you gotta you gotta start 1208 01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:19,120 Speaker 1: intentionally shitting on the bad stuff. So like, if you 1209 01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,840 Speaker 1: got YouTube right, YouTube don't like when you watch one 1210 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:25,000 Speaker 1: second of a video and click off. Oh YouTube hates 1211 01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,240 Speaker 1: that shit. So if you see some some negative shit 1212 01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,720 Speaker 1: pop up on your feed, click on that, watch for 1213 01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,840 Speaker 1: one second, then click off that shittube. They don't like it. 1214 01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:36,600 Speaker 1: They don't like it. We got you, we like YouTube 1215 01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:38,840 Speaker 1: is one of the one of the I talked because 1216 01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:40,280 Speaker 1: I've talked to these people. They say, it's like a 1217 01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:44,040 Speaker 1: puppy that just wants to please you. And the puppy 1218 01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:45,840 Speaker 1: when you come in the house, the puppies like, hey, 1219 01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:47,800 Speaker 1: I got let me go get you this thing. And 1220 01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,000 Speaker 1: they come to the to ther door with you know, 1221 01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:51,760 Speaker 1: a bone or something. And if you take the bone, 1222 01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,080 Speaker 1: I like, this is great. The puppies gonna wag, they 1223 01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,240 Speaker 1: tell and bring you more bones. But if you take 1224 01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,559 Speaker 1: the bone, but like, shit out of here, the puppies 1225 01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:00,599 Speaker 1: gonna feel bad for a second. But it's gonna find 1226 01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:02,479 Speaker 1: something else for you to you, for you to play with. 1227 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,120 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, If you would notice, and 1228 01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,200 Speaker 1: I think that I think that even ties into what 1229 01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,559 Speaker 1: you were saying about the master's tools. It's like, yes, 1230 01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,720 Speaker 1: and this is not in any way to discredit you know, 1231 01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,799 Speaker 1: argu lord, but to say, at the end of the day, 1232 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:19,080 Speaker 1: there is a way to engage with these tools so 1233 01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:24,000 Speaker 1: that you can then make your voice heard. So maybe 1234 01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,120 Speaker 1: you can't change that system, but you can let that 1235 01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,760 Speaker 1: system know. I'm not fucking with that right if I 1236 01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:32,120 Speaker 1: don't appreciate it. You want my engagement, stop showing me 1237 01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:35,120 Speaker 1: this shit. Yeah, that's basically what the what the puppy 1238 01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,320 Speaker 1: is trying. You know what the algorithm wants to I'm 1239 01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,880 Speaker 1: gonna want your engagement. I'm gonna have no morals as 1240 01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:43,679 Speaker 1: no soul, it has no dislike. But it's only Facebook 1241 01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:48,519 Speaker 1: want with a dislike. Huh dislike. But but the dislike 1242 01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,880 Speaker 1: is keep scrolling, keep scrolling, and then when you find 1243 01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,240 Speaker 1: something that really feeds you you, when you find that 1244 01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:59,719 Speaker 1: thing you want more of stop Okay, a comment, leave alike, 1245 01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:04,160 Speaker 1: heart whatever. That's why you hear YouTubers constantly say like 1246 01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,360 Speaker 1: hair and comment, because that is how they keep their 1247 01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:11,800 Speaker 1: engagement up. If you see content that you like, don't 1248 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,200 Speaker 1: just be like, oh that was real good. You want 1249 01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,840 Speaker 1: to like it? Share it, x Y and Z. You 1250 01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,120 Speaker 1: want to make sure those people feel and hear that 1251 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,280 Speaker 1: in a way that's real, that comes up in data 1252 01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,240 Speaker 1: that they can then use to keep moving forward, and 1253 01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,439 Speaker 1: they do analysis on like the types of comments you 1254 01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,720 Speaker 1: leave too. So if you say I love this, this 1255 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:34,759 Speaker 1: was really somebody to see today whatever, like, they say, Okay, 1256 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,479 Speaker 1: that's that's that's good. We want that. And if they 1257 01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:39,680 Speaker 1: and if you argue with the motherfucking the comments or 1258 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:41,960 Speaker 1: some shit you don't like, they will keep feeding you 1259 01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:45,679 Speaker 1: all this. They don't they really liked that, So we're 1260 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,400 Speaker 1: gonna send them more of that because that will keep 1261 01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:52,920 Speaker 1: them engaged. You got you gotta train it like a dog. 1262 01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:59,400 Speaker 1: Engagement has no morals about everything, y'all, Like you're crazy, 1263 01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:02,439 Speaker 1: you know, don't let me get into my capitalism bag. 1264 01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:04,719 Speaker 1: We only got we only got a few more minutes. 1265 01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,760 Speaker 1: It starts and start talking about how the corporations and 1266 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:09,600 Speaker 1: the plutocracy and all. I don't I don't want to 1267 01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:14,800 Speaker 1: get to autocracy. See I don't want you know what 1268 01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying like this. That's why that's why age was 1269 01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,880 Speaker 1: like when I get to that that black conservative socialist video, 1270 01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We got to start that's 1271 01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,080 Speaker 1: you know. My goal is to this not to be 1272 01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,080 Speaker 1: the last time I talked to some famous people. But 1273 01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm scared because I don't know how far I'm gonna 1274 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:34,599 Speaker 1: get before either a I start telling the rich niggas 1275 01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:38,040 Speaker 1: today face that they need to change, or I become 1276 01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:39,759 Speaker 1: a rich nigg and be like, oh no, that's cool. 1277 01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:46,839 Speaker 1: Second part. I'm second part as as a rich niggod. 1278 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just tell you money does not make it 1279 01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:53,040 Speaker 1: the man. That's that's the goal I appreciate. Go go 1280 01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:57,280 Speaker 1: get your coins, friend, go get all your coins. We're trying. 1281 01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:02,599 Speaker 1: My wife with a job last year, so she congratulations. Yeah, yeah, 1282 01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:04,960 Speaker 1: it was an amazing She she needed it because she 1283 01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,240 Speaker 1: was out there in corporate America, you know, working working 1284 01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:11,360 Speaker 1: in that that whole I was I was saving the world, 1285 01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,679 Speaker 1: working with kids and shit, you know what I'm saying. 1286 01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:15,840 Speaker 1: And she up here talking to these old white men 1287 01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,680 Speaker 1: trying to get them to sell and box stuff. And 1288 01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:21,320 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, baby, look we switched. I got it. 1289 01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:31,680 Speaker 1: Go ahead, take these naps. Get your skin good. Anytime 1290 01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,760 Speaker 1: you offer somebody a nap, that's just a nice time. 1291 01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:38,439 Speaker 1: Shout out to A. J's so funny. She went out 1292 01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:40,679 Speaker 1: with a friend and her friend was asking her about 1293 01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,000 Speaker 1: her skin routine and she was like, yo, I take 1294 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,000 Speaker 1: a lot of naps because she stopped wearing makeup in 1295 01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,559 Speaker 1: the last like three or four months. And then like 1296 01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,280 Speaker 1: your skin is long. She's like, yeah, good jeans in 1297 01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:54,400 Speaker 1: the sleep every once and again. My husband coming, why 1298 01:13:54,400 --> 01:14:00,799 Speaker 1: I'm taking my nap and you know that, okay. Blessings, blessings, blessing. 1299 01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,920 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming and spending some time 1300 01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:09,519 Speaker 1: with us. We really really appreciated. Look here, y'all, it 1301 01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:13,479 Speaker 1: just seemed to me like this. If you're paying attention 1302 01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:16,519 Speaker 1: to your social media's and you find that a lot 1303 01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:21,280 Speaker 1: of toxicity and negativity is in it, Number one, take 1304 01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:24,000 Speaker 1: account to the good people that are around you. Take 1305 01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,800 Speaker 1: account of the love that you receive, take account to 1306 01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:30,240 Speaker 1: the people that are supportive of you, and know that 1307 01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:34,800 Speaker 1: this is not the real world. The majority of this 1308 01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:39,320 Speaker 1: shit is for show, okay, And you know, for likes. 1309 01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened when we become people that 1310 01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:46,600 Speaker 1: need likes so much, but it's always the people that 1311 01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,960 Speaker 1: are going their own direction that seem to get to 1312 01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:53,400 Speaker 1: the price. And remember anything that you're involved in too 1313 01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:56,360 Speaker 1: much can make you an addict. Thank you so much. 1314 01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,599 Speaker 1: We appreciate you at Jay dot Ill, thank you, mister 1315 01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:06,360 Speaker 1: seg the fire Laura. Don't she liked to do that 1316 01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:10,920 Speaker 1: to them? She liked to do it. Oh, Jill, you can't. 1317 01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,320 Speaker 1: You can't do that to me. The city backo stairs 1318 01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:26,280 Speaker 1: like everything normal. I can't. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try. 1319 01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:36,680 Speaker 1: How do you eat an elephant? One? By it time? Hey, listeners, 1320 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:42,200 Speaker 1: it's Amber the producer, here to dive deeper into all 1321 01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:47,960 Speaker 1: things media and internets. Please follow f D signifier on 1322 01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:52,599 Speaker 1: all social media platforms, YouTube and Patreon. I'll drop links 1323 01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:54,960 Speaker 1: to all of his accounts and the show notes. And 1324 01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,960 Speaker 1: I just want to reiterate you have the power to 1325 01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:01,560 Speaker 1: alter your algorithm by what you can assume the most, 1326 01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:19,799 Speaker 1: so be mindful. Hi. If you have comments on something 1327 01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:23,960 Speaker 1: you said in this episode, call eight six six. Hey Jill, 1328 01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,200 Speaker 1: if you want to add to this conversation, that's eight 1329 01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:30,920 Speaker 1: six six four three nine five four five five. Don't 1330 01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,240 Speaker 1: forget to tell us your name and the episode you're 1331 01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:36,680 Speaker 1: referring to. You might just hear your message on a 1332 01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:40,919 Speaker 1: future episode. Thank you for listening to Jill Scott Presents 1333 01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:47,280 Speaker 1: Jay dot Ill. The podcast Jay dot Ill is a 1334 01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:52,960 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. 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