Speaker 1: I am very overt about the fact that I never
Speaker 1: want to get married again.
Speaker 2: Why why are you so overt about it? Why are
Speaker 2: you so vocal and like dead set on it? Why?
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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Hello to the latest installment of the Calm
Speaker 1: Down Podcast. Aaron and I are so far yet so
Speaker 1: close together. The countdown is on for our trip to
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift. Thank you guys so much for all of
Speaker 1: the feedback on so much beware all the things.
Speaker 2: So we're excited about that. We have a lot going on.
Speaker 1: What are we going to talk about today's sister, We
Speaker 1: are going to talk about how is the Bellmont incredible?
Speaker 1: We will get into that. I have a great opportunity
Speaker 1: to work that for Fox. Aaron also has an update
Speaker 1: for everybody on her Korean skincare For those of you
Speaker 1: that are new to the program, look what happened in
Speaker 1: my face? Or get into that. Who has been singing
Speaker 1: the praises? But now it sounds like that's not the
Speaker 1: case anymore, So stay tuned for that. Also, our gal
Speaker 1: is playing a little hurt today. She was up all night,
Speaker 1: not on a bender, but boo being a.
Speaker 2: Mom And if you want to call sailing spray a bender,
Speaker 2: then I am wasted. We'll get to that.
Speaker 1: Welcome more to Okay, Aaron's been doing this move for
Speaker 1: those of you that can't see her. She takes her
Speaker 1: stack of papers and like keeps organizing them, like she's
Speaker 1: got like so many documents that she's going through with
Speaker 1: over there. And it makes me laugh every time. Aaron's
Speaker 1: very organized and always has her shit together. What is
Speaker 1: all we have to question his papers? Did you print
Speaker 1: out the like what.
Speaker 2: My cute assistant did? Hold on? Can I can I ask?
Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of people instagram this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: I am a three beverage gal. I got the coffee,
Speaker 2: I got the water, and I got the green. Are
Speaker 2: you the same? I cannot just have one drink? Am
Speaker 2: I the same? I feel like you know this about me.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised I only have one beverage in my hand
Speaker 2: right now. Anyone that has known me.
Speaker 1: Knows that, for the longest time, a brunch consists of water, coffee,
Speaker 1: green juice, mimosa yea.
Speaker 2: And then we'll get into the apparel sprint s portion.
Speaker 1: I mean, at any given time, there could be five
Speaker 1: beverages right in front of me.
Speaker 2: It's excessive. And I also have two different lip glasses,
Speaker 2: a pen. Yeah, what's in you on your dass? Not
Speaker 2: what's in your purse? Well, what's in my wallet is
Speaker 2: not a lot of concealers for my zips that I'm hiding.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, that right in front of you.
Speaker 1: That's adorable and also very organized. That you have your
Speaker 1: concealers in a zip block bag.
Speaker 2: Well, because they were in my nasty purse with the gross,
Speaker 2: dirty bottom, Like it's insane. So what aren't we doing
Speaker 2: for a purse at tailor's Way? Because I feel like
Speaker 2: venues see through. I don't know what to do and
Speaker 2: I only need like credit card, lip gloss, gum, phone, phone,
Speaker 2: hotel key, Jery can hold that, yeah, mince Oh you
Speaker 2: say gum gum?
Speaker 1: I panicked, Oh my gosh, we'll get to all the
Speaker 1: things actually here, No, this is going to take us
Speaker 1: right to it. So I had the great privilege of
Speaker 1: being one of the individuals that got to cover the
Speaker 1: Belmont for Fox, which is very exciting for a guy
Speaker 1: like me who's currently at the ranch and has always
Speaker 1: loved horse racing because I used to go to the
Speaker 1: track with my grandpa when I was a little girl,
Speaker 1: and he'd give me twenty dollars and he would tell
Speaker 1: my grandma, don't tell her that we're at the track,
Speaker 1: and I'll give you money, because he didn't want knowing
Speaker 1: that he was gambling, because there may or may not
Speaker 1: have been a problem if you have a problem called
Speaker 1: one eight hundred gambling, oh not in your respective state.
Speaker 2: But he just gave me some hush money.
Speaker 1: And by the way, as a seven year old getting
Speaker 1: twenty bucks, mama was ready rich.
Speaker 2: I'd go right up to that.
Speaker 1: Window and I learned how to make the beds and
Speaker 1: win play show, the whole thing. So imagine my enthusiasm
Speaker 1: when Fox comes to me last year and they're like,
Speaker 1: we got the Belmont like and we'd love you to
Speaker 1: work it. We know your affinity for horse racing, the ponies.
Speaker 1: I talked about this last week. For those of you
Speaker 1: that listened to the podcast, thank you. So I was
Speaker 1: in Saratoga all week now, first time in Saratoga. I
Speaker 1: went to the Gap a lot of times. I bought
Speaker 1: many outfits from the Gap, which.
Speaker 2: I gotta say, Gap kids, unbelievable for my child.
Speaker 1: I was going to buy a bunch of stuff for
Speaker 1: Maxtell at Gap Kids. But then I had to carry on,
Speaker 1: so that was I going to make it back. But anyways,
Speaker 1: that was that was fun learning new restaurants. Shout up
Speaker 1: to the canteen and Saratoga got a lot of mark.
Speaker 1: Every time Aaron called me, she goes.
Speaker 2: You back to the Mexican restaurant Ram Sureram had a
Speaker 2: great taco salad, Yes, taco salad and margarita frozen margarita.
Speaker 1: So to the kind people in Saratoga, thank you for
Speaker 1: being so welcoming.
Speaker 2: Wish.
Speaker 1: I know I've mentioned this before on the podcast and
Speaker 1: I sound like we're so arrogant for saying this. I
Speaker 1: just have to think anyone that comes up to me
Speaker 1: or to Aaron or when we're together or not together,
Speaker 1: and says that they love the podcast, it makes me
Speaker 1: so nice. This happened multiple times while I was there,
Speaker 1: and I just I hope you guys know that it
Speaker 1: actually really makes me happy, because sometimes Erin and I
Speaker 1: are like, who's listening?
Speaker 2: But it's adorable and I love all of you guys. Okay,
Speaker 2: And so face timed me with a couple of fans yes,
Speaker 2: because I was like, well, let's They're like, I love you,
Speaker 2: and Aaron I was like, well, let's just call her
Speaker 2: right now. So it really makes my heart happy.
Speaker 1: So thank you guys for being so generous and giving
Speaker 1: up a little bit of your time every week to
Speaker 1: listen if you do so sweet. So backdrop of Saratoga,
Speaker 1: the oldest racetrack in the country, incredible.
Speaker 2: I had never been there before, which bummed me out.
Speaker 2: But you're gorgeous.
Speaker 1: Oh you're very sweet, but so so fun And was
Speaker 1: there and I have this fear, like you do, of
Speaker 1: having bad breath or bo or just not being frushers.
Speaker 1: Aaron I like to say, like, we love the freshness.
Speaker 1: So I am going to a dinner and I realize
Speaker 1: as I've gone down the elevator and I'm in the lobby,
Speaker 1: I'm like, shit, I don't have any gum in my purse.
Speaker 1: I I so then go to the little area in
Speaker 1: the front of the hotel where they're selling you know,
Speaker 1: the concessions things like that they don't have any gum.
Speaker 2: I'm like, we have no gum, and I don't want.
Speaker 1: To go all the way back up, just around waiting, waiting,
Speaker 1: and I'm there right, I'm there for work and anyone
Speaker 1: like we do not get in that car.
Speaker 2: Be on time. Don't be that person that's late. Sure,
Speaker 2: So what is it?
Speaker 1: The little concession area is a toothbrush and a toothpaste.
Speaker 2: So what do I do. I buy the toothbrush and toothpaste.
Speaker 1: I throw away the toothbrush because I don't need the
Speaker 1: toothbrush and I'm eating toothpaste throughout the evening. That's what
Speaker 1: I did. Instead of having gum, I just squeezed the
Speaker 1: cress little mini into my mouth while I was out
Speaker 1: and about. Sorry, I'm not gonna risk and maybe that's
Speaker 1: gross and maybe that's bad for me. Just a full
Speaker 1: douse in the mouth, freshness and ready to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's one of the worst things, you know.
Speaker 2: I appreciate the effort. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1: So I was in Saratoga all week, fresh as a daisy,
Speaker 1: and just got back and got to my ranch.
Speaker 2: And I have learned so many tips and tricks with
Speaker 2: the ponies.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to get I'm looking at my horse
Speaker 1: right now out this window, and yeah, well he was
Speaker 1: very inexpensive. He's not a thoroughbred race horse, okay, And
Speaker 1: I know that this poor guy out there. I thought
Speaker 1: that horses just sleep standing up. Well, I was informed
Speaker 1: from my time in Saratoga with these Thoroughbred horse races
Speaker 1: that they would love to sit down and sleep if
Speaker 1: you give them a bed to lay down on.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, when.
Speaker 1: Meat a bed, Well, that's what I'm thinking. So of
Speaker 1: course I'm like, well, let's get the horse the best
Speaker 1: bed that you can get. It's like, no, it's like
Speaker 1: straw or like something that's just saw for the horse
Speaker 1: to lay down. I feel like such a dick because
Speaker 1: all I have are these little shavings in my sweet
Speaker 1: Oz's house out there. So guess who's about to get
Speaker 1: a full on like set up with a bed.
Speaker 2: This guy, I'm going to be out.
Speaker 1: There shoving some straw into his little stall, and he
Speaker 1: is going to be a happy camper. I know his
Speaker 1: life's about to change. His life already has changed. He's
Speaker 1: loving it out there.
Speaker 2: Where where are you when they the horses go? Like
Speaker 2: when the race begins, were you there? Were you? Or sat?
Speaker 2: Where were you? Adorable? Thank you for asking.
Speaker 1: I was in the winter circle because I had the
Speaker 1: great privilege of presenting the trophy with the Governor of
Speaker 1: New York, Kathy Hokel and so I'm in the winter
Speaker 1: circle and it goes by like that, and Dornick, who
Speaker 1: is one of the owners is Jason Worth who used
Speaker 1: to cool for the Phillies, and he's won a World
Speaker 1: Series and it was so fun to see he wasn't
Speaker 1: the favorite and no one, not a lot of people
Speaker 1: thought he was going to win.
Speaker 2: He wasn't projected to win.
Speaker 1: So, as Dissa pointing, as it was because I lost
Speaker 1: money betting on the favorite. It was cool to see
Speaker 1: sort of the long shot, not.
Speaker 2: Sort of the long shot. He was mid mid range
Speaker 2: long shot win the race.
Speaker 1: And to have Jason win and I love like asking
Speaker 1: him afterwards like where this ranked compared to winning a
Speaker 1: World Series and he was like it beats it, which
Speaker 1: is cool, Like I mean really like the pinnacle of
Speaker 1: his profession.
Speaker 2: But then to be an owner.
Speaker 1: Of a horse's school, so yeah, it's credit for the
Speaker 1: sport too.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this earlier. I want to talk
Speaker 2: about trophy presentation interviews or interviews in the winner's circle.
Speaker 2: I've had the opportunity to do a few at the
Speaker 2: World Series. You were phenomenal doing yours there. I was
Speaker 2: getting a big kick. People have no idea, They have
Speaker 2: no clue how difficult those are. They are so hard.
Speaker 2: There's so many people, they're all excited. We get that,
Speaker 2: but you also have a job to do. They always say,
Speaker 2: do not give up your mic, even if someone is
Speaker 2: like wrestling it from you. Also, I meant to ask
Speaker 2: you about my mic to the governor. I saw that,
Speaker 2: but I wasn't critiquing that part. Were you on the
Speaker 2: loud speaker? So could you hear yourself too? People also
Speaker 2: don't understand how difficult that is. You have to block
Speaker 2: that out or hope to god your ifs are so
Speaker 2: loud that you can't hear your voice on the loud speaker,
Speaker 2: because that is so hard.
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny you say that, because it reverberates. And
Speaker 1: that's what I always think happens with singers, Like we
Speaker 1: know what. It's like a foregone conclusion that a singer
Speaker 1: always them out, rip them out of their ears, because
Speaker 1: they must be hearing some sort of like whether it's
Speaker 1: static or reverse something. Because if you hear yourself and
Speaker 1: then you're on a delay, I mean, this is I'm
Speaker 1: just we're putting it out there. This is not the
Speaker 1: hardest thing in the world. It's just different than any
Speaker 1: other part of the job.
Speaker 2: You know what, I'm done saying that because we don't
Speaker 2: give ourselves an enough criding. It's fucking hard. It's hard.
Speaker 2: Now I'm not we're not performing brain surgery. We're not
Speaker 2: you know, in a courtroom trying you know, a case.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. It's hard. Not everyone can do it.
Speaker 2: I'm sick of everyone thinking they can any who. It's hard.
Speaker 2: So you have that. Then you got the gentleman in
Speaker 2: the back that of the others excitement, But wow, he
Speaker 2: wants to get his word in. You don't want to
Speaker 2: be a dick, and you want to acknowledge him. But
Speaker 2: you got places to go before. And I'm sure in
Speaker 2: your ear they're telling you to wrap. And my man
Speaker 2: wants to talk about the jockey and the trainer, and
Speaker 2: you were, you were so you reminded me of Ellen
Speaker 2: from a Christmas story. So anyway, like you handled it,
Speaker 2: people have no idea how hard that is. You got
Speaker 2: everybody wanting to talk. Well, you're very sweet to say that,
Speaker 2: but it is the number one rule.
Speaker 1: And I actually watched Jim Nance do this, and he
Speaker 1: talked about it in an interview where that is like
Speaker 1: the number one role, like you do not give up
Speaker 1: your microphone.
Speaker 2: And there was a time I don't know which super
Speaker 2: Bowl he was referencing where you could see my max.
Speaker 1: It's a struggle not taking this thing away because at
Speaker 1: that point then you lose all control. But yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a lot and especially again I am the horse racing
Speaker 1: is not my domain, Like I go into it because
Speaker 1: of Fox's right, you can't I go out of it,
Speaker 1: like it is not my thing. So when you're again
Speaker 1: you don't know who the winner is within that last
Speaker 1: few seconds. It's not like you're watching a game and
Speaker 1: it's like someone has a ten point lead or they're
Speaker 1: up by two touchdowns and you can sit there and
Speaker 1: plan out like where's the trainer, where's the owner? Like
Speaker 1: it is like and my biggest fear is, which we've
Speaker 1: seen this happen in sports, we saw recently, not identifying
Speaker 1: the right individual and like especially when for them that's
Speaker 1: like the biggest moment, this is their horse that just won,
Speaker 1: or a trainer or whatever. So I always want to
Speaker 1: just caution that I'm like making sure the right people.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're very sweet. It is not no, it
Speaker 2: hard yep. The coolest one I've ever done was after
Speaker 2: the Red Sox one, after the Boston Marathon bombing. I
Speaker 2: can Poppy like you shouldn't give up your mic, but
Speaker 2: I gave Poppy my mic so he could reenact the
Speaker 2: speech of like this is our e fing city. If
Speaker 2: I'm going to give my mic up to anyone, I'd
Speaker 2: give it up to that beauty. And then hardest one
Speaker 2: I've ever done was the San Francisco Giants won the
Speaker 2: World Series. In San Francisco. It was pouring rain and
Speaker 2: I was pumped, like you know when you're feeling it.
Speaker 2: I was like, I freaking nailed this. I lost all
Speaker 2: my notes because it was raining. I like, I couldn't
Speaker 2: look down at who I was introducing, who was there.
Speaker 2: But finally when it was going on, it was going on.
Speaker 2: But the one thing I kept thinking of is like,
Speaker 2: I'm looking at Bruce Bochie right now, and I know
Speaker 2: all my fake eyelashes are all over my face and
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry Boach, but they weren't. But it was
Speaker 2: like it was hard. That's so cool though, Like really,
Speaker 2: I mean, of course.
Speaker 1: If you get to do any of those, but the
Speaker 1: emotion attached to that Boston one.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine. Oh my god, every night during that
Speaker 2: World Series, before the first pitch, everybody was crying because
Speaker 2: they always had a tribute and they always had the
Speaker 2: first responders, so and so that was injured. It was
Speaker 2: just like full blown and just what that World Series meant.
Speaker 2: It was like a relief and peace for that town.
Speaker 2: It was so amazing. My mom and dad came. It
Speaker 2: was unbelievable. It was an insane postseason. It was so
Speaker 2: fun to be a part of. I was raised a
Speaker 2: Red Sox fan. My dad's from Springfield, my mom's from
Speaker 2: Rhode Island. It was really really cool. Oh, I can't
Speaker 2: imagine how you feel. I got excited to go to
Speaker 2: the All Star Game in Seattle with my mom.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine being on the field and like having
Speaker 1: your parents see all that.
Speaker 2: They must be like. It was pretty another proud of you.
Speaker 2: But I don't remember if it was the round before,
Speaker 2: if it was the World Series. I think it was
Speaker 2: the World's Series. It was the World Series because my
Speaker 2: mom and dad were there. But Poppy was annoyed with
Speaker 2: the media. I don't know if he kind of was
Speaker 2: not playing well, but something was going on storyline wise,
Speaker 2: he wasn't speaking to the media, but he did a
Speaker 2: pregame interview with me in the Red Sox tug Out
Speaker 2: and that was the media and yeah, only interview he did.
Speaker 2: And I remember my parents were standing right there and I.
Speaker 1: Was like, my man, I'm so proud of you though,
Speaker 1: like and but let's go back to what this talks.
Speaker 1: We talk about relationships. Yeah, building those relationships and earning
Speaker 1: that because that's so special. And when you actually get
Speaker 1: to have it come to fruition where it's like that
Speaker 1: reputation or not. You know, yes, the reputation, but also
Speaker 1: the the equity that you've built up in the friendship
Speaker 1: can pay off in that moment is really special. So
Speaker 1: you're there to do your job and if if that
Speaker 1: job means that you get access to somebody that's not
Speaker 1: given anyone else access, good on you girl. You Carson Belmont,
Speaker 1: you degree you're Aaron is like the biggest supporter. She's
Speaker 1: so sweet, Like she'll text me throughout a broadcast that
Speaker 1: like she's you know, obviously on Sunday she's busy, she's working,
Speaker 1: but when she's not working and she always I don't know,
Speaker 1: you always make a point to be so supportive, and
Speaker 1: I just love you for that.
Speaker 2: Thank you. We were out to lunch. We were Mac
Speaker 2: was having his first rack of rips and vanilla ice cream,
Speaker 2: and I turned on my YouTube TV. Not an ad,
Speaker 2: but I'd love it to be, and I had my
Speaker 2: girl on. I was like, so worried that your feature
Speaker 2: had already played. I was like, Jared, they already ran
Speaker 2: the race and it was actually an hour before. They
Speaker 2: hadn't even run it yet. But it's like, you're like
Speaker 2: the same way. I just kind of have you on,
Speaker 2: like I want to know what's going on.
Speaker 1: You know, I love you And shout out to our
Speaker 1: girl Carcy Phipps and Harpburq on. Anyone that's a long
Speaker 1: time listener of the Calm Down Podcast knows that she's busy.
Speaker 1: Carcie is always busy. She's got things going on in
Speaker 1: that they're such a great family. Hey, what's not great though,
Speaker 1: is Aaron. We alluded to it at the beginning here,
Speaker 1: You've got a little situation with the Korean skincare what's happened.
Speaker 2: Got a little I got a little build up going
Speaker 2: on on the shin, which is always my issue. That's
Speaker 2: always my concern area. Finally went and got a facial today,
Speaker 2: and you know, when they are spending more time on
Speaker 2: the extraction versus the lifting and tightening, we got an issue.
Speaker 2: So basically I came clean and I said, I stopped
Speaker 2: using the products you sell here and I started using
Speaker 2: Korean skincare. And one thing about Korean skincare, which I
Speaker 2: was excited about because I fell for all the ads,
Speaker 2: was the dual cleansing. We do our oil cleansing first
Speaker 2: and then we do our foaming cleansing. I was doing
Speaker 2: that twice twice a day, in the morning and at night.
Speaker 2: What I've learned, because I'm a t zone gal, we
Speaker 2: don't need to be putting any more oil on these
Speaker 2: pores that we already have. We had a massive blockage.
Speaker 2: So what we have going on right now is probably
Speaker 2: like I am like a push pad. What do you
Speaker 2: call it? Like I was going to say braille, but
Speaker 2: that's not appropriate, Like it is the real there's a
Speaker 2: lot of there's a lot lot of texture on my skin.
Speaker 1: Your chin is just Yeah, we've got elevations that we
Speaker 1: don't even know yet.
Speaker 2: We're climbing Everest and wow, wowie wawser since so we're
Speaker 2: gonna lay back a little bit on the Korean skincare,
Speaker 2: which is good because I was very worried about packing
Speaker 2: it for Europe, for Taylor, I was worried about how
Speaker 2: I was going to pack it for football guys.
Speaker 1: The fact that she thinks about how she's going to
Speaker 1: pack her skincare is bananas to me.
Speaker 2: I'm like a twelve year old girl right now.
Speaker 1: I am so envious that she plans and even thinks
Speaker 1: about things like that.
Speaker 2: You're lucky if it's a lot to plan anything. But
Speaker 2: I need to go back at this for a second.
Speaker 1: The skincare world is so confusing, and sometimes it feels
Speaker 1: like a little bit of a racket. I'm not gonna lie,
Speaker 1: and you know what, it's causing congestion well, because it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: do this, okay, but don't do this, and then you
Speaker 1: do this thing is working. It's like then sometimes be honestly,
Speaker 1: I do nothing and it's like the best my face
Speaker 1: ever looked.
Speaker 2: I go and get all these faces and then.
Speaker 1: I get break out and it's like I don't know
Speaker 1: what I'm supposed to be doing.
Speaker 2: Actually said the same thing today. Are these facials are
Speaker 2: all these things like causing the zits and we should
Speaker 2: just go back to what we were doing. Like I
Speaker 2: don't know what to do because I have the oil
Speaker 2: cleanser and then I got that little powder that's in
Speaker 2: there and it mixes and I love it and it
Speaker 2: feels so good, and then it's like it's working, and
Speaker 2: then like a week later, it's not working, and then
Speaker 2: I break the glass bottle all over the shower. So
Speaker 2: now I'm picking up while naked, shards of glass off
Speaker 2: the bottom of the shower. And so I'm like, I
Speaker 2: just don't know how I'm for Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1: No, and I'm not consistent with any regiment in my
Speaker 1: life because I get bored with it. Or then I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh it's running low and I definitely didn't you know,
Speaker 1: buy it.
Speaker 2: It's been advanced. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just all overwhelming. And then I think to myself,
Speaker 1: like less is more like my mom growing up, she
Speaker 1: used like washed her face with like a bar of
Speaker 1: soap and used oil of let oil. Volet anyone know that,
Speaker 1: Like is it's a white bottle black little?
Speaker 2: Isn't it funny?
Speaker 1: How you like I remember that smell and like watching
Speaker 1: her get ready in the morning. By the way, her
Speaker 1: ready is like just lotion and spraying Elizabeth Arden sunflower perfume.
Speaker 1: I know, but like those things like remind me of
Speaker 1: her and has perfect skin, has never had a ZiT
Speaker 1: in their whole life.
Speaker 2: So I just don't know what to do.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're going left, we're going right, we're going up,
Speaker 1: we're going down with skincare. Somebody make it simple for me.
Speaker 2: Can I you know, I probably need a blood transfusion
Speaker 2: after all the blood I lost today with those extractions,
Speaker 2: But can I talk to you about I was talking
Speaker 2: to Ash about this. There's always that one or two
Speaker 2: area that you know will have a black head or
Speaker 2: need like a little bit of extraction. I have one
Speaker 2: that I always can go to every two weeks. Wait
Speaker 2: then I'm like a jew machin. Yeah, I just know
Speaker 2: it's like a white like not a white head, but
Speaker 2: it's got a little bit of what I like to
Speaker 2: call it.
Speaker 1: I get real excited about those black heads because I
Speaker 1: know they're coming out, and they're coming out without any
Speaker 1: kind of repercussion. And when I go and I get
Speaker 1: those little maybe we've talked about this safety pins that's not.
Speaker 2: Always the cleanesto.
Speaker 1: But then I'm like, I'm excited when I find a
Speaker 1: safety pin in the bottom of the dingebag and I'm like, ooh,
Speaker 1: this is going to prevent scarring.
Speaker 2: Go right into the poor get her out.
Speaker 1: There's such satisfaction when it just pops right out.
Speaker 2: Now, I did that last week, but still came to
Speaker 2: the facial with like a red bomb and she goes, Now,
Speaker 2: what you did was you pushed it down farther. There's
Speaker 2: more in there. Now I'm bleating again, and you can't win. Now.
Speaker 1: I can't win in a predicament that I'm in, and
Speaker 1: I might get in trouble from my significant other for
Speaker 1: bringing this up, but I feel like this is a
Speaker 1: safe space here the Calm Down podcast platform. So I'm
Speaker 1: going to present this question based off of a little
Speaker 1: bit of and it's not been identified this situation I'm
Speaker 1: in and has not been diagnosed. I'm just seeing some
Speaker 1: signs that might make me believe that that's where we're headed.
Speaker 2: I saw this sign and it opened up my eyes.
Speaker 1: So I have talked at nauseum about my divorces and
Speaker 1: my last divorce. Yes, I know this just and I
Speaker 1: got robbed and I got divorced. You hadline you can
Speaker 1: always count on with me, But I have made it.
Speaker 2: Did anyone know that? Anyways? And it there we go.
Speaker 1: We live to tell the tale, but I make it
Speaker 1: very overt. I am very overt about the fact that
Speaker 1: I never want to get married again.
Speaker 2: Don't Why Why are you so overt about it? Why
Speaker 2: are you so vocal and like dead said on it? Why?
Speaker 1: Because the first time I got married, I was very young,
Speaker 1: and I chalked up the first time to getting married
Speaker 1: to just being young and dumb and okay. Then I said,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't like losing. You don't like losing,
Speaker 1: And I was like, ooh, that really sucks. Like took,
Speaker 1: I got it. I got an l in that calling
Speaker 1: right now. So the second time around, the individual had
Speaker 1: never been married before, and I didn't feel that it
Speaker 1: was fair to be so full stop on marriage when
Speaker 1: that person wanted to get married. It was important to
Speaker 1: that person, and I didn't want to take away something
Speaker 1: from them that they wanted just because of my past.
Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, I also didn't get to
Speaker 1: know that person right right. There's any other subplots to
Speaker 1: that headline, but the headline there is that person wanted
Speaker 1: to get married, and I didn't want to take that
Speaker 1: away from them, So, against my better judgment, for a
Speaker 1: lot of reasons, but also just in general, I was like, fine,
Speaker 1: I'll get married again. Get married again.
Speaker 2: It's not what really you wanted. It wasn't what I
Speaker 2: wanted at all. I didn't want to get married.
Speaker 1: Again after the first loss, because who wants to keep
Speaker 1: doing that. I was totally fine, and even I even
Speaker 1: got married the first time, honestly, not kind of on
Speaker 1: like I don't want to say a bet. So I
Speaker 1: was like, I went there to break up with the guy,
Speaker 1: because this is a whole therapy session. I went there
Speaker 1: to break up with him because the minute I start
Speaker 1: getting attached, I like retreat because I don't want to
Speaker 1: get too close because then I might be dependent on
Speaker 1: someone else for happiness and I want to control my
Speaker 1: own happiness. So this is twenty four year old me,
Speaker 1: still thirty three year old me, the same, but sure
Speaker 1: start to get too close, so gonna back away. I'll
Speaker 1: try to be succinct with this explanation to get us
Speaker 1: to where we are in the current day. So I
Speaker 1: go to break up with him. He says, we're not
Speaker 1: breaking up, We're getting married. We I go, okay, we
Speaker 1: go to Hollywood and get tattoo rings. I've never had
Speaker 1: a tattoo. He had never had a tattoo, get ring tattoos.
Speaker 1: And then four days later I was like, well, if
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get married, we're gonna get married on a
Speaker 1: beach in Laguna Beach, because I want to get married
Speaker 1: on a beach. He said, Okay, I pull out a
Speaker 1: Forever twenty one white dress out of my closet.
Speaker 2: I wear that. I get flowers on the side of
Speaker 2: the road, and polaroids were our pictures.
Speaker 1: That was the wedding, so I was thinking, this is great.
Speaker 1: I never really wanted the big wedding, so I didn't
Speaker 1: have to have it. We crashed somebody else's wedding because
Speaker 1: it's in June in Laguna at the hotel. We're staying out,
Speaker 1: I'm cutting someone else's cake. Like I mean, it was great.
Speaker 1: It was all very like ran am on the dance
Speaker 1: floor with the bride. I'm like, I got married to yeah,
Speaker 1: so fine, that all happens. And then second time around,
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'll do it the right way. I
Speaker 1: actually want my parents at this wedding because I never
Speaker 1: had my dad walk me down the aisle. So I
Speaker 1: get to make up for some of the things I
Speaker 1: never thought I wanted but have. Okay, now we got
Speaker 1: two strikes. I don't know about you, but I'm in
Speaker 1: the batter's box and I look into strike out for
Speaker 1: the third and final time, and I just don't want
Speaker 1: to make this fail to make this commitment again when
Speaker 1: the first two times I was like, not really into
Speaker 1: it anyways, to then do it again. Not the relationships
Speaker 1: per se, but this idea of marriage, like, oh, we're
Speaker 1: gonna be so much stronger or so much better if
Speaker 1: we get married, like my Goldie Han Kurt Russell mentality
Speaker 1: is if we're not married, every single day, I get
Speaker 1: to wake up and decide I want to be with you,
Speaker 1: Like I don't have to be with you, but I
Speaker 1: get to be with you.
Speaker 2: I want to be with you. Is that okay for him? Correct?
Speaker 2: So this is you, guys. This is where I'm at
Speaker 2: right now. Now.
Speaker 1: Steve has not said this. He has not come out
Speaker 1: and said I want to get married. He hasn't said that.
Speaker 1: But I'm feeling a little bit guilty that I'm so
Speaker 1: and this is I just need to have the conversation
Speaker 1: with him, is what's happening. But instead you guys are
Speaker 1: letting me have and you never have no because I
Speaker 1: just have never put it as an option on the table.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like when your parents said, like, we're
Speaker 1: not getting a dog. You can't We're not having a dog.
Speaker 1: You're never getting a dog. Get over a kid, or
Speaker 1: we're never having a cat. Your dad's allergic. So just
Speaker 1: you think, Okay, I'm never going to get that. I
Speaker 1: never have given Steve the option like we're going to
Speaker 1: get married, because I just took it off the table
Speaker 1: before it could even be a conversation.
Speaker 2: So right now you're Joe in the Tortured Poets Society
Speaker 2: Like you're Joe. You took everything off like the table.
Speaker 1: All roads lead back to Taylor. We are ever getting
Speaker 1: back together?
Speaker 2: Back come.
Speaker 1: So I bring all this up to get your guys's
Speaker 1: advice too. Do I approach him and say like, hey,
Speaker 1: are you feeling so, because maybe he'd be like, Noah,
Speaker 1: I'm good, but I've already taken having a baby off
Speaker 1: the table, which he agrees with. He says he doesn't
Speaker 1: want to have a baby, so that part, but I
Speaker 1: haven't really heard him ever say like I don't want
Speaker 1: to marry you.
Speaker 2: I've never heard him say that. I just I've always
Speaker 2: heard you say it. I've never heard him say it.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: So, And then I willing a little bit over you
Speaker 2: and said I don't like that, and I want you
Speaker 2: to get married, But.
Speaker 1: Why do you want me to get married when you
Speaker 1: know it's caused me so much pain? Because these aren't
Speaker 1: the same people.
Speaker 2: But I do agree with in this day and age,
Speaker 2: does it really even matter anymore? Like you bring up
Speaker 2: you know, Kurt Russlong, Goldie Han, they're adorable. There's actually
Speaker 2: a lot of other people that do it too. But
Speaker 2: I do think you should find out if that's okay
Speaker 2: with him.
Speaker 1: I know, And it could be a really simple question.
Speaker 1: I mean like I could just walk outside and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: did you ever want to get married? And I just
Speaker 1: didn't present that to you, Or it could be like.
Speaker 2: Can we talk? Can we talk? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm just having her so hard because there's like certain
Speaker 1: things like he's just acting in a different way that
Speaker 1: I'm used to, not in a bad way, just different,
Speaker 1: And so I'm like, now this is what you and
Speaker 1: I do. It's what we do at work. We all
Speaker 1: of a sudden are not getting found in a rabbit
Speaker 1: hole and we're getting fired. And the boss said call
Speaker 1: me because he wanted me to go work another event.
Speaker 1: So I fired myself before I even give the person
Speaker 1: an opportunity to maybe promote me.
Speaker 2: I don't know, lost all feeling in my extremities, like
Speaker 2: feeling like my chest is tightening, definitely going to have
Speaker 2: some sort of stroke. Oh hey, I was just checking
Speaker 2: to see if he could make it to dinner next week.
Speaker 2: Well I can't because I'm actually had cedars on an
Speaker 2: IV because they're checking my heart rate because I just
Speaker 2: convinced myself I'm off the A crew.
Speaker 1: And it's honestly the missing this year context. Somebody, if
Speaker 1: you're a boss, is hey, why don't you give me
Speaker 1: a call and to get a chance or just call
Speaker 1: me or you have a minute.
Speaker 2: He just tried you. Hey, just tried you. That's also
Speaker 2: about that's a bad one. Hey, just ties you.
Speaker 1: I know, I just saw the miss Paul, and that's
Speaker 1: why I didn't answer, because they're already assuming the words. Hey,
Speaker 1: quick question when you get a minute? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: like how quick, Like you're fired or we're going in
Speaker 1: a different direction.
Speaker 2: Going in a different direction sounds a little longer. That's
Speaker 2: not quick.
Speaker 1: So yeah, So I would love your thoughts, comments and concerns, questions,
Speaker 1: comments and concerns on how I.
Speaker 2: Should approach this situation with Steve.
Speaker 1: Do I just go because he's so like, maybe that's
Speaker 1: my problem just like he's awesome, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: like I have intel, I have intel that basically one
Speaker 1: of my family members, your family member, Ogden Phipps, loves him,
Speaker 1: Like well that that's like, that's like my you know,
Speaker 1: that's like the end all be all. If he is
Speaker 1: an endorser of anything, I'm in on it. But I'm
Speaker 1: let me just put a bow on this conversation before
Speaker 1: we continue. Once I really get answers, why is it
Speaker 1: that you what's the thing with marriage? Like why did
Speaker 1: you like growing up? Did you want to get married?
Speaker 1: Like what is it about marriage for you that like
Speaker 1: feels like the right thing to have done with Jared?
Speaker 2: Like because I don't get it. You know what's crazy
Speaker 2: is that I felt like a lot of pressure was
Speaker 2: off us once we got married. I felt like I
Speaker 2: put so much pressure on our relationship until we got
Speaker 2: engaged or married, because I knew I was in it
Speaker 2: for the long haul. I knew this is the person
Speaker 2: I wanted to be with. I knew that, you know,
Speaker 2: this was like it for me, but I and I
Speaker 2: guess i'd known that from him. But also, like, let's
Speaker 2: be honest, we work in this world. We have a
Speaker 2: lot of guy friends. It's like, are we doing this?
Speaker 2: Are we not doing this? I feel like a woman
Speaker 2: asking that more than it is the guy. Yeah that
Speaker 2: was me. Yeah. But then it was like once we
Speaker 2: got engaged, once we got married, I kind of chilled well,
Speaker 2: I wanted to chilled out. Uh here Wednesday, I chilled
Speaker 2: out at all. I felt less pressure with our relationship.
Speaker 2: It was funny. One of my really good friends actually
Speaker 2: said that to us, maybe like a month ago. She
Speaker 2: was just like, you guys have almost gotten stronger with
Speaker 2: all the crap you've been through, versus like, amazing how
Speaker 2: much it's hurt you. Because then this is always funny, hear,
Speaker 2: there are some times we didn't think you guys would
Speaker 2: come back. You know, you have some doozy of a
Speaker 2: fights when you're dating and stuff like that, which is
Speaker 2: through a lot of stuff together. Yeah, but I feel
Speaker 2: like we are just like our friendship, like our commitment
Speaker 2: towards each other. I mean that's how I feel about it.
Speaker 2: I just hit them, like sorry, Brian, but yeah, I
Speaker 2: felt like it took a lot of pressure off. Yeah
Speaker 2: that's interesting. Yeah, I think that for me.
Speaker 1: Obviously, my experience with marriage hasn't been great, So why
Speaker 1: do you want to jump back into something that hasn't
Speaker 1: been good? Like, hey, jump back into that deep end.
Speaker 1: The last two times you might be drowned. Maybe have
Speaker 1: floaties on this time. It's like, who says floaties?
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was just curious. So I would love anyone's thoughts
Speaker 1: if they've been in similar situations where it's like the
Speaker 1: partner just takes things off the table before they're ever
Speaker 1: in an option, And then do you get resemble at
Speaker 1: one point like we're going to be fifty years old,
Speaker 1: like this is.
Speaker 2: My boyfriend state boyfriend? Boyfriend?
Speaker 1: Like boyfriend sounds like so insignificant in the big scheme
Speaker 1: of thing, but then what my partner? It's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, that's not weird. So anyway, that's just where
Speaker 1: I'm at. We're out of time, unfortunately, because.
Speaker 2: We're actually not. Ryan wants us to have longer podcasts.
Speaker 2: Do you have a few minutes or do you have
Speaker 2: to seattle?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, all I have to do is make Oz's bed
Speaker 2: for him. Do you want to go over a couple
Speaker 2: of headlines? I would love nothing more than to do that.
Speaker 2: I really wanted to hear what you have to say
Speaker 2: about this. Okay, we're going threadsheets count? Do thread counts
Speaker 2: really matter when buying bad sheets? Experts reveal the truth
Speaker 2: thread count has little to do with the actual quality
Speaker 2: of your sheets, despite what the industry has put out there. Thoughts.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go right back to what we just
Speaker 2: talked about with skincare.
Speaker 1: I think it's there's some of these companies that have
Speaker 1: like all the ingredients and all these things cost so much,
Speaker 1: so the price of the skincare has to go up,
Speaker 1: and the sheets same thing, like all these materials that
Speaker 1: you're using. That's like, look, get this into the the
Speaker 1: buzzword of thread count, so it drives the sheets up.
Speaker 1: Or the marketing like a Chanel lip gloss could be
Speaker 1: the same as Cover Girl but actual ingredients, but all
Speaker 1: the marketing and the packaging and all the stuff of
Speaker 1: the Chanelle makes it forty five dollars and Cover Girl
Speaker 1: is twenty dollars. I say this to be like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm very honest about my my home design. I never
Speaker 1: went to school for interior design. I don't even know
Speaker 1: half the terminology for home design. I just know that
Speaker 1: if I did a blind test and I felt one
Speaker 1: set of sheets and another set of sheets, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: equate thread count with the ones that feel better. It's
Speaker 1: like what feels better for my personal preference. Like some
Speaker 1: people can like that jersey material like T shirt. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I like more of a silky like soft sheet. So
Speaker 1: I have no idea if that makes the sheets better.
Speaker 1: I think it's all personal preference.
Speaker 2: With my side sleeper on my face, I just bought
Speaker 2: a silk pillow case. I know that sounds dirty, but
Speaker 2: like I feel like we got to do everything we
Speaker 2: can at this point to save No, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I don't Why does that sound dirty? That's actually really good,
Speaker 2: so you're not smashing your face.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But like like linen, never ever ever be on
Speaker 1: linen sheets, like as a woman, because that material is
Speaker 1: so rough. Like I love the look of linen, but
Speaker 1: not when it comes, because they sell those. I sell
Speaker 1: linen sheets, like if you want that, like to loom
Speaker 1: look vibe not on this face.
Speaker 2: I don't. I've been looking like the sandy beaches. I'm
Speaker 2: sure mine looks like, Yo, you look great. You need not.
Speaker 2: I do love. I'm a terrible host, but I should
Speaker 2: have transitioned with how many Americans still believe in true love?
Speaker 2: After our big talk about your talk you're about to have?
Speaker 2: How many Americans still believe in true love? Good news
Speaker 2: for anyone seeking a mark of romance this summer. True
Speaker 2: love is still alive, as seventy percent of Americans believe
Speaker 2: it exists. Who are Oh my god, I love that.
Speaker 2: I love love.
Speaker 1: That's why we talked about it on the pregame with
Speaker 1: the sweet person that submitted the question of like, how
Speaker 1: you okay? You talked about this and Nat You're okay?
Speaker 1: They bed bugs, probably more bumps the pregame question that
Speaker 1: we got this week. One of them was about how
Speaker 1: soon should you start dating after you get a divorce?
Speaker 1: And my whole thing has always been like why I
Speaker 1: got back? Even if I think marriage isn't.
Speaker 2: For me, I love love like I love it.
Speaker 1: It's part of the reason why, like I'm so happy
Speaker 1: in my life right now, which is also why I
Speaker 1: don't want to fuck it up with a marriage, because
Speaker 1: love is like if you have My dad always would
Speaker 1: say this to me, if you have all these things
Speaker 1: in your life, all these great things, but you don't
Speaker 1: have anyone to share it with, Like then what Like
Speaker 1: my first call when anything good would happen in my life,
Speaker 1: even when I was in relationships, was always to my
Speaker 1: dad because I wanted tom, I wanted him to be
Speaker 1: proud of me. It's my dad, my mom and dad
Speaker 1: couldn't wait to tell them the news. And now they're
Speaker 1: not my first call, second call, and Steve's my first call.
Speaker 1: And it's like I want, like everyone to be in
Speaker 1: love and I want everyone to be happy because you
Speaker 1: think about your life, like how much better it is
Speaker 1: with Jared, Like it's it's the reason you like get
Speaker 1: excited to do any kidding, I mean, like think about it,
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, it's not every day now I'm fucking perfect.
Speaker 1: But going on a trip, you want to go to
Speaker 1: Mexico by yourself or would you rather go with your
Speaker 1: best friend. I'll never forget what you said to me.
Speaker 1: We were in Montana. I like that. Remember this when
Speaker 1: we were in Montana and I did not want to
Speaker 1: go home, and I was like, oh, I'm going to
Speaker 1: stay a few days, and You're like, I want to
Speaker 1: go home. I want to go see my husband because
Speaker 1: I really like him. And I was like, ooh that
Speaker 1: like and it's It was one of those moments where.
Speaker 2: I was like, fuck, I long for the day to
Speaker 2: have that. So yay, love Elle, Yay, you have to
Speaker 2: go the way you look at me, I like this one.
Speaker 2: I think we both feel the same about this. I
Speaker 2: have dealt with this and when I okay, wait. Taylor
Speaker 2: Swift defends Lady Gaga. We saw that whole thing. People
Speaker 2: were calling Lady Gaga pregnant, ridic and obviously Taylor Wade
Speaker 2: in which I thought was magical. But you gotta believe
Speaker 2: one of the reasons why she weighed in was the
Speaker 2: week before. I remember I was in Mexico and these
Speaker 2: people were posting videos of her on tour and they
Speaker 2: were like, she's pregnant, she's pregnant, and I just two things.
Speaker 2: I get. We were not at her level. I can't
Speaker 2: even imagine being at that level. We are in front
Speaker 2: of the camera for a living. I have posted a
Speaker 2: photo before of myself on Instagram. It was actually from
Speaker 2: week eighteen of the season. It was me and my
Speaker 2: coworkers and I guess I didn't suck in and somebody were,
Speaker 2: you're pregnant, and I just thought, no, can't get pregnant, actually,
Speaker 2: but thanks for asking. And I also remember when Jennifer
Speaker 2: Aniston came out with her whole thing. I forgot if
Speaker 2: it was lilast year where she was like talking about
Speaker 2: how many times she went through IVF she couldn't get pregnant.
Speaker 2: She was like, and then there were the times I'm
Speaker 2: bloated or whatever's going on, and I'm going through IVF
Speaker 2: and people thought I were go to hell? Like enough,
Speaker 2: are we really still here where we're commenting on women's bodies. Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean this chick, Taylor Swift and what she does
Speaker 2: four to five nights a week on tour in high heels,
Speaker 2: moving and grooven. She can look however she wants to look.
Speaker 2: That chick is in great shape. And to do that
Speaker 2: about lady Gagachu, you have no clue what people are
Speaker 2: going through in their lives. Maybe they are doing IVF,
Speaker 2: maybe they are trying go to hell.
Speaker 1: Maybe they have anything else going on. Maybe there's some
Speaker 1: something in their body that's making them being weight. There's hormoes,
Speaker 1: there's all these things. Put it this way, let's make
Speaker 1: it simple. Stop commenting on women's bodies period and vil
Speaker 1: like you're too fat, you're too skinny, there's too there's
Speaker 1: so I mean, there's a million different ways that people
Speaker 1: go out.
Speaker 2: Women like you don't know what they're going through. And
Speaker 2: not just women.
Speaker 1: I know that guys can be attacked too, but the
Speaker 1: whole pregnancy thing, Like, I'm so glad that you just
Speaker 1: said that about your situation, like you no, I would
Speaker 1: love to be pregnant, you asshole?
Speaker 2: Is what you want to rank? Get it? But then
Speaker 2: it's like, you know what, probably should lay off the
Speaker 2: chips and salsa. Actually maybe a little bloated. Yeah you would.
Speaker 2: It's wild, And I'm so glad she said something because
Speaker 2: obviously it came from a place where I saw what
Speaker 2: they were doing to.
Speaker 1: Her the week before. Yeah, stop, everyone, just be kind.
Speaker 1: In the words of Cinderella, as I go and clean
Speaker 1: the attic and the horses stall, I always love the
Speaker 1: expression have courage and.
Speaker 2: Be kind, Have courage, and be kind. I mean, God,
Speaker 2: is there any better? Like? I just love that movie
Speaker 2: so much, love that movie. My battery is gonna die.
Speaker 1: Okay anyways, no, no, no, I know, I just don't
Speaker 1: want it to cut off before Kurt we upload this.
Speaker 2: I love you so much.
Speaker 1: Was fun.
Speaker 2: We should do this more off in another ten minutes.
Speaker 2: Ryan loves it great.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: I love you guys.
Speaker 1: Thank you for everyone that listens, and I would love
Speaker 1: your input so I can stay in a loving, healthy relationship.
Speaker 1: Thank you for making this a safe space to talk
Speaker 1: about my feelings.
Speaker 2: Saves you, don't leave me. Don't leave me, Steve, don't
Speaker 2: le me. Calm down with Erin and Carissa is a
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