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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody to the Thursday edition of The Clay

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Speaker 2: Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Much to discuss with all

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Speaker 2: the across the country. We've got Trump's massive lead in

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Speaker 2: the polls, which we want to discuss a little bit about.

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Speaker 2: Also his plans for the upcoming GOP debate. Play's gonna

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Speaker 2: be handling that one for you because I'm going to

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Speaker 2: be in Scotland and I'm just really jealous of that

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Speaker 2: trip to Scotland. That's gonna make so much fun. I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna Carry's gonna have to elbow me in

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Speaker 2: the ribs every time. I'm like, hey, Loddie, you know,

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Speaker 2: because I'm sure they don't like that over there with

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Speaker 2: some Americans, like you know, very excited for their first

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Speaker 2: time in Scotland.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, So we'll talk about what's going on with the.

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Speaker 2: Trump debate strategy, as in what he's going to do

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Speaker 2: while not being of the debate, what's going on there

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Speaker 2: and what the thought process is.

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Speaker 1: The blind side.

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Speaker 2: We talked you about this yesterday, it's getting even crazier.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there are people who are now And.

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Speaker 2: I'm you know, the Huffington Post. I didn't even know

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Speaker 2: that still existed. I thought maybe that had ended up

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Speaker 2: on the same trash heap as like Gawker. But the

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Speaker 2: Huffington Post reporting that people are demanding Sandra Bullock give

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Speaker 2: back her oscar, which is just one of the craziest

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Speaker 2: and weirdest things I've seen in a little while on

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Speaker 2: the internet. We've also got the Biden economy.

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Speaker 1: To discuss here.

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Speaker 2: There's some stuff that I think people should be paying

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Speaker 2: attention to that's not obviously getting a lot of attention

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Speaker 2: because they want him to think the economy is fine. And

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Speaker 2: the latest a little bit of an update on the

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Speaker 2: Maui relief efforts after the wildfire. We talked to Will

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Speaker 2: Kane about that yesterday. More people are pointing out relief

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Speaker 2: coming in too slowly and a federal government that seems

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Speaker 2: like it's been caught off guard. So we'll get into

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Speaker 2: all all of that today of the course of the show.

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Speaker 1: And Clay, you know, let's start with this.

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Speaker 2: We have two different polls that are suggesting that Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump is in a forty point lead over his next

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Speaker 2: closest competitor, which would be Rhonda Santis. But forty points

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Speaker 2: is not close at this stage of the game.

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Speaker 1: It's it's hard to look. You could place a bet.

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Speaker 1: No one knows.

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Speaker 2: The future is not set, but it's hard to imagine,

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Speaker 2: barring some cataclysmic event of some kind, how this gap

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Speaker 2: will be made up to.

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Speaker 1: The point where Trump.

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Speaker 2: I think I said this early on, he's not going

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Speaker 2: to go to the first debate if the lead is

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Speaker 2: picking up.

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Speaker 1: I think you agreed.

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Speaker 2: I think we're both sitting here saying it's just that's

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Speaker 2: not a very Trump move. I want to get into

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Speaker 2: what you think could come out of this, But first off,

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Speaker 2: you know the psychology of Trump being so far ahead

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Speaker 2: right now for the base. Do you think this is

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Speaker 2: mostly attributable to a sense of we will not let them?

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Speaker 2: I want to say mostly, maybe that's too much, largely

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Speaker 2: attributable to a sense of we will not let the

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Speaker 2: deep state and the system break our candidate. And so

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Speaker 2: there's just a rally to the flag effect, Like, how

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Speaker 2: do you assess I thought Trump would be ahead fifteen

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Speaker 2: we'd be looking at a forty point gap. There's so

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Speaker 2: many angles here.

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Speaker 3: First, of all, let's begin Donald Trump right now, even

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Speaker 3: with the felony charges in four different jurisdictions New York City, Washington,

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Speaker 3: d C. South Florida, and Atlanta, is in the strongest

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Speaker 3: political position of his entire political career. And I think

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Speaker 3: many people are missing that. If you go back to

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Speaker 3: when Trump came down that escalator in twenty fifteen and

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Speaker 3: officially announced that he was running for president, all the

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Speaker 3: months basically until the Iowa caucuses. Never, at any point

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Speaker 3: in his political career has Donald Trumps standing been higher.

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Speaker 3: Now you'd say by the president of the United States,

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Speaker 2: It never happened. Yeah, I'm just saying, everybody you're analyzing

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Speaker 2: This isn't like a perception driven analysis. This is what

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Speaker 3: So I think you have to begin there because his strength.

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Speaker 3: He never led basically in any poll against Hillary Clinton

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Speaker 3: you remember the way the twenty sixteen Republican primary was cut, the.

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Speaker 1: Argument was Trump will lose.

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Speaker 3: As soon as everybody else drops out and it ends

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Speaker 3: Trump had like twenty five or thirty percent. Now there

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Speaker 1: That was his base.

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Speaker 3: And all of the arguments, all of the arguments were

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Speaker 3: that he would crumble even running against Hillary, as we

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Speaker 3: have talked about on this show, and all of you

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Speaker 3: remember New York Times says he has a two percent

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Speaker 1: All of those things, he was a huge underdog.

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Speaker 3: And then go to twenty twenty, and I understand people say, well,

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Speaker 3: you can't trust polling, but that's the reliable data that

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Speaker 3: we're assessing. When he's got a forty point lead basically

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Speaker 3: and look at the twenty twenty race. He was never

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Speaker 3: they're roughly even in many polls that are coming out

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Speaker 1: So Trump is stronger right.

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Speaker 3: Now, even with all the charges, than he has ever

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Speaker 3: the office, I'm talking about running for office. He's never

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Speaker 3: been in a stronger position. So you asked a question,

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Speaker 3: why is that. I think people are angry, and I

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Speaker 3: think Trump is there is their battle acts, and I

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Speaker 3: think people are just furious and they feel like Trump

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Speaker 3: entire Republican field, and they want someone who is just

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Speaker 3: going to smash things up and actually go after Democrats.

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Speaker 3: And in that way, the indictments just play to Trump's

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Speaker 3: strength that Democrats are dishonest, they are not playing by

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Speaker 3: which is America is a great place and we're just

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Speaker 3: all going to be super nice and let's hold hands

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Speaker 3: and then we're gonna seeing kumbah Yah and everything's going

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Speaker 3: to be fine. I think that most Republicans, particularly those

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Speaker 3: not feel that way, and they want vengeance, They want

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Speaker 2: Now for the other actually, before we get the other individuals,

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Speaker 2: did you see okay, a few things. I think you

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Speaker 2: were out the day that I talked about Kemp putting out.

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Speaker 3: The yeah, we need to, we need to, we need

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Speaker 3: to talk about that, because I was texted with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that way, that's right. Sometimes I confuse our texting

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Speaker 2: where they're talking the radio. Because that was a real

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Speaker 2: That was an extended finger in the direction of of

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Speaker 1: I think from from.

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Speaker 3: A my my, Brian Kemp should be the VP selection

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Speaker 3: definitely went up in flames the minute that Brian Kimp

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Speaker 3: the Georgia election, so that that relationship is torn asunder.

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Speaker 3: Mom and dad are not getting back together. Yeah, yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: that was that was a real moment.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting to come down with that one so fast,

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Speaker 2: but so Brian Kemp not going to.

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Speaker 1: And you know a few things.

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Speaker 2: One, you know, I spoke to a bunch of uh

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Speaker 2: was sort of curious on their different takes.

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Speaker 1: And there's so many things floating around here.

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Speaker 2: As as kind of an update to the Georgia conversation yesterday, Clay,

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Speaker 2: So when you were talking about switching to federal court,

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Speaker 2: you meant the there's this arcane law that if you're

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Speaker 2: a colorable argument, right, that's the so the thing.

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Speaker 3: I think, So let's go yes, but let's go into

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Speaker 3: that for just a sec This is we're talking now

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Speaker 3: this in the bottom of the hour. But yes, this

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Speaker 2: And I thought when when you said that, I thought,

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Speaker 2: So it's it's a statute kind of within the statute,

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Speaker 2: So we can get into that a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: But that's a very a specific thing to Georgia. I

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Speaker 2: will tell you all three of the attorneys I talked

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Speaker 3: I thought that over under on one that that that

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Speaker 3: and we need to talk. We'll talk to maybe at

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Speaker 3: they're trying to set that Atlanta case for March fourth,

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Speaker 2: The one that I really still think that they're going

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Speaker 2: gets me to two. I don't think all four will.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the.

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Speaker 2: The skill of the prosecutor in this case in bringing

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Speaker 2: even actually doing legal or damage anyway, we can get

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Speaker 2: after action. I was like, wait, so what exactly is

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Speaker 2: arguing about all that. People are arguing about the president's

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Speaker 2: state charges.

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Speaker 1: You may have seen this. It's back and forth on

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Speaker 1: the internet over this.

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Speaker 2: So it's but this is processed, not the pardon thing,

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Speaker 2: but the other stuff is processed stuff. So we're talking

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Speaker 2: about we'll bring this back here to Trump's VP. You

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 2: I think the Trump's VP game is going to be

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Speaker 3: We're talking about Trump opening up a big lead in

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Speaker 2: This process is Buck the brag indictment and the Fanny

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Speaker 1: And and what it's what the Democrat base wants.

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Speaker 2: That website is dollar Recall dot Com. Dollar Recall dot

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Speaker 1: Things are still looking well, it's all pretty crazy.

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Speaker 2: You've got a presidential candidate is facing four criminal indictments.

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Speaker 2: You're going to have a jury for him and be like,

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Speaker 5: She's not just some administrator who was elected as district attorney.

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Speaker 5: on getting in this case.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just know she the Trump team trying

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Speaker 2: to intimidate the prosecutor.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 2: That's just to me, that's that's bizarre. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: know the Trump lawyers or not. First of all, a

445
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Speaker 2: bunch of Trump lawyers are facing indictment from her. But okay,

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Speaker 2: so here here's what I found. Tell me if this

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Speaker 2: all tracks, because I had to dig into this so

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Speaker 2: on the on the removal. Well, so it's not a

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Speaker 2: whole new or a shift in. It's not a concurrent

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Speaker 2: jurisdiction issue, which is I thought what you were talking about.

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Speaker 1: Yet No, no, I'm saying that the case would actually

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Speaker 1: be in federal courts.

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Speaker 4: So I.

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Speaker 2: Didn't catch that at first because I was just like,

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Speaker 2: there's no way there because sometimes that's why I said,

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Speaker 2: like gun charge whatever, it could be a state charge,

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Speaker 2: it could be a federal judge. What you're talking about

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Speaker 2: is the case gets removed under it an old statue

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Speaker 2: where if you're a federal government employee, it essentially prevents

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Speaker 2: state governments from harassing federal government employees who are doing

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Speaker 2: their work. Trump tried this, I believe in New York,

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Speaker 2: and so far it hasn't worked. The judge said no,

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Speaker 2: obviously there's different circumstances there, and it's currently waiting for

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Speaker 2: the appeals court to weigh in on that. What's interesting

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Speaker 2: though about it is that it's not like it's a

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Speaker 2: federal trial.

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Speaker 1: Right. If you move, if it gets removed, you'll get

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Speaker 1: a federal judge, you'll get a federal.

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Speaker 2: Jury, but it's state charges, so then the pardon thing

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Speaker 2: still is an issue.

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Speaker 1: So that's why. And this is the other one.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And Fanny Willis can be deputized as a special

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Speaker 6: special attorney, you know, US attorney for the purposes of trial,

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Speaker 6: so she can con So that was the part of it.

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Speaker 1: I was like, she can continue to prosecute.

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Speaker 2: The case in a federal court with a federal judge

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Speaker 2: and a federal jury, So those are all important pieces,

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Speaker 2: but she gets to be the one bring it possibly

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Speaker 2: theoretically continue to bring the charge and the case, and

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Speaker 2: if she got a conviction, it would still be state charges.

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Speaker 1: That's my having conferred to a couple of people, that's

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Speaker 1: my understanding. So this is a huge men.

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Speaker 3: The case that I am most confident is not going

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Speaker 3: to get tried before the election in twenty twenty four

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Speaker 3: is Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Because if she buck, if Annie.

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Speaker 3: Willis had just wanted to go after Trump, maybe that

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Speaker 3: case could get tried. They're nineteen defendants here, and to

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Speaker 3: the point on the courts and whether some of it

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Speaker 3: federal in some of its state, she is saying she

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Speaker 3: wants to try all nineteen defendants together.

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Speaker 1: There's a zero percent chance of that.

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Speaker 3: And so you have got all these different defendants who

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Speaker 3: are going to have different charges and different motions and

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Speaker 3: different arguments. Most of them, I would think, will want

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Speaker 3: to be doing their own trial because it makes it

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Speaker 3: more complicated for the prosecution. So they'll try to sever

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Speaker 3: as many different directions as they can in this case.

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Speaker 3: And I just this is a sprawling, monstrosity of a mess.

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Speaker 3: She now is requesting March fourth, but the New York

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Speaker 3: City case, I believe is set for like March twenty fourth.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any way possible that Atlanta is

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Speaker 3: going to be tried. The biggest issue for Trump is

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Speaker 3: if he could get it moved to federal court in

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Speaker 3: the event that this case actually went through. This is

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Speaker 3: where it becomes a civil procedures. You have a federal

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Speaker 3: court applying state law, and then you would have an

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Speaker 3: even more complicated question if you had a conviction.

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Speaker 1: Of state law in federal court.

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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna make people's brains roll back into their

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Speaker 3: head buck I was talking. I did the signing yesterday

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Speaker 3: in Brandon, Florida. So many people came up and they

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Speaker 3: were saying they felt like they deserved legal credit for

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Speaker 3: having listened and frankly having to contemplate all of these

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Speaker 3: different swirling legal aspects of these cases.

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Speaker 1: It is unprecedented.

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Speaker 3: But the mess is to what extent can Trump avoid

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Speaker 3: serious consequences in Atlanta whenever this war to go to trial.

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Speaker 2: So I think, for me, the motives of the different

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Speaker 2: prosecutors has to be taken into account here.

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Speaker 1: I mean the political motives, right, not the like motive

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Speaker 1: to get justice because Trump is such a threat to

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Speaker 1: the rule of law, the real motives.

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Speaker 2: Because the timing was obviously set in this way for

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Speaker 2: a reason, they could have brought these charge all four

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Speaker 2: of these cases.

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Speaker 3: Two and a half years. Fanny Willis has been investigating

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Speaker 3: this buck. All of this could have been brought much

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Speaker 3: sooner than it was. So, for example, with Jack Smith,

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Speaker 3: I think the delay and isn't it interesting to see

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Speaker 3: that look what they did with Hunter Biden Right When

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Speaker 3: they choose to do these things, It's almost like for

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Speaker 3: a news organization, what they choose to cover is as important.

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Speaker 1: As how they cover it.

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Speaker 2: For these prosecutors, when they bring charges or how long

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Speaker 2: they hold off from charges can have an enormous impact.

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Speaker 2: So I think Jack Smith thinks he can get one

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Speaker 2: of these. I think he thinks he can drag one across. Again,

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Speaker 2: who knows he thinks he can get one of them across.

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Speaker 2: I think DC's more likely he thinks he can get

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Speaker 2: a conviction.

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Speaker 1: He thinks. So I'm not whether that's true or not.

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Speaker 2: I think with brag and Fanny Willis, what you're now

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Speaker 2: Bragg's case might actually go. I don't think he thinks

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Speaker 2: he can get a conviction. Fanny Willis's case, I tend

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Speaker 2: to agree with you. Now, I looking at the structure

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Speaker 2: of this one, I think that's a very difficult one

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Speaker 2: for them to be able to do before the you know,

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Speaker 2: to get done before the election. So I think you'll

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Speaker 2: probably go two for four. That's my sense. I would

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Speaker 2: bet two for four is what you'll get. But I

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Speaker 2: think for Fanny Willis, then this is what I was

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Speaker 2: trying to get to, bringing the case and bringing this

554
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Speaker 2: huge Rico case and everything. This is how she becomes

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Speaker 2: the mayor of Atlanta, This is how she becomes the

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Speaker 2: governor of Georgia. This is how maybe you know, it's

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Speaker 2: really just about the political messaging at this point, more

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Speaker 2: than because otherwise Clay to hold it this long and

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Speaker 2: have everyone say you're not even going to get to

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Speaker 2: try before the election, you know what I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, doesn't make anything.

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Speaker 3: This is the big issue with all of these district

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Speaker 3: attorneys in blue cities and blue states.

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Speaker 1: What do they lose? Even if they lose.

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Speaker 3: The case, their political bonafides are established forever because they

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Speaker 3: were the prosecutor who went after Trump and wasn't afraid

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Speaker 3: of him, and for Democrat voters, for television ads and

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Speaker 3: radio ads that are going to be run, for speeches

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Speaker 3: that these people are going to do for the rest

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Speaker 3: of their career. Alvin Bragg and Fanny Willis have made themselves.

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Speaker 3: Now you can at least say I think Jack Smith

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Speaker 3: is a joke, but you can at least say Jack

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Speaker 3: Smith isn't a politician, meaning he has political aspirations in

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Speaker 3: the sense that he's definitely plugged in, but he's not

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Speaker 3: running for office. Alvin Bragg would love to be the

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Speaker 3: mayor or the governor. I bet Fanny Willis would love

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Speaker 3: to be the mayor or the governor. Jack Smith is

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Speaker 3: just a stooge who's doing the work of Merrick Garland.

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Speaker 3: Maybe somewhere down the line he thinks, hey, a g

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Speaker 3: I could be attorney general one day or something like that.

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Speaker 1: But he's not.

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Speaker 3: I don't think ever going to run for elective office.

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Speaker 3: But for these DA's who run for elective office to

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Speaker 3: New York buck she ran her entire campaign bragging, I'm

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Speaker 3: couldn't happen in Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, and Pennsylvania too.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think that that's that's a risk here.

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Speaker 2: I think that it is unlikely to happen in some

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Speaker 2: of those places, just because I think at this point,

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Speaker 2: I mean, basically, you know, there's terminal velocity of like

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Speaker 2: absolute right when you're falling absolute speed. Have we reached

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Speaker 2: the point where a fifth indictment looks too like we're

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Speaker 2: already at four? Would a fifth indictment look too political?

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Speaker 2: Because at some point, I do think that even even

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Speaker 2: people that are a little bit put off by Trump

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Speaker 2: and these indictments in general, might say, are you guys

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Speaker 2: just gonna throw fifty indictments at him?

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Speaker 1: Like, what's what's going on here?

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Speaker 2: I think for Katie Hobbs, for example, realized that it's

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Speaker 2: actually not a strong play for Democrats to throw a

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Speaker 2: Georgia is different. Georgia we know has been coming for

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Speaker 2: a while Georgia. You know, there there were some specifics

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Speaker 2: here about state law that played into it. I don't

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Speaker 2: this is the thing unless you like really look into

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Speaker 2: state election law in different states.

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Speaker 1: It's different in every state.

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Speaker 2: You know, in some states you ballot harvest for example,

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Speaker 2: you're great, thanks thanks for helping. Other states you go

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Speaker 2: to prison. Right, the election laws can be very, very different.

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Speaker 2: But I think there's a recognition that one state charge

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Speaker 2: of this kind on the election is probably their best shot.

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Speaker 1: More than that.

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Speaker 2: Looks like it's too absurd of I don't know. Maybe

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Speaker 2: they have no outer limit of them. You don't think

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Speaker 2: there's any outer limit of insurance. Just look at it

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Speaker 2: on an incentive structure. Let's say that you're in the

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Speaker 2: DA and I'm just tossing. I don't even know who

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Speaker 2: the das are in these in the cities. But let's

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Speaker 2: say you're the DA in Milwaukee, You're the DA in Philadelphia,

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Speaker 2: Marcopa County. I think Phoenix probably is not as politically charged.

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Speaker 1: I think it was.

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Speaker 2: The Milwaukee DA years ago who did the h the

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Speaker 2: John Doe investigations against Walker. It was a total partisan

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Speaker 2: hitchob But anyway.

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Speaker 3: Correct, like, if you're in Detroit, you're in Milwaukee, or

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Speaker 3: you're in Philadelphia. Big cities, blue blue cities in blue states.

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Speaker 1: What do you have to lose.

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Speaker 3: From a political perspective by bringing charges against Trump?

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Speaker 1: Even if they're garbage?

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Speaker 3: You you solidify your standing in Democrat circles by bringing

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Speaker 3: these charges.

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Speaker 1: Then why haven't they Rovin Bragg and it's total joke.

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Speaker 1: Why haven't they brought them? It's a fantastic question.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to look at why they haven't. They haven't yet, right,

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Speaker 2: there must be some reason.

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Speaker 3: I think probably they just are behind I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 3: I kind of feel like I expect to see I

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Speaker 3: expect to see charges brought. It's a big undertaking the

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Speaker 3: amount of time and energy and effort, but in terms

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Speaker 3: of benefit, I don't think it's that challenging. We come

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Speaker 3: back buck this story. Let's have a little bit of

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Speaker 3: fun because this one is absolutely is absolutely insane. You

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Speaker 3: mentioned at the start, Sondra Bullock they wanted to return

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Speaker 3: or Oscar because of this huge, ridiculous Michael or case

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Speaker 3: that everybody is talking about the blind Side.

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Speaker 1: What's next We'll discuss on Clay Buck

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Speaker 3: Slave Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth,