Speaker 1: Episode three point fifty one Impulse buying, What it is
Speaker 1: and how to stop.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Frugal Friends podcast, where you'll learn to
Speaker 2: save money, embrace simplicity, and liver your life. Here your
Speaker 2: hosts Jen and Jill.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Frugal Friends podcast. My name is Jen, my
Speaker 1: name is Jill, and today we are talking about one
Speaker 1: of your favorite topics, a topic that you ask for
Speaker 1: over and over again. Impulse buying. Impulse shopping. Impulse purchases
Speaker 1: basically just unplanned purchases. So we are defining them and
Speaker 1: giving strategies for how to stop impulse shopping.
Speaker 3: It gets the best of us. Even if we think
Speaker 3: we are stellar at a impulsivity sneaks up and some
Speaker 3: of us we've not even tried. We're just impulsive. We're
Speaker 3: doing all the things. But hopefully we've got some tips
Speaker 3: and strategies for you that you can be more mindful
Speaker 3: about your spending.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and to not vilify impulsivity. That it is a
Speaker 1: thing that many people have regularly, and everybody has eventually,
Speaker 1: So how do we work around it, how do we
Speaker 1: embrace it, and how do we just do better with it? So,
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Speaker 1: All right, So if you are interested in decreasing the
Speaker 1: number of impulse buys you make on a weekly basis,
Speaker 1: aren't we all? We have a ton of great episodes.
Speaker 1: Our best ones on this topic are episode two seventy
Speaker 1: nine Tips to Avoid Impulse Spending and episode one thirty
Speaker 1: three Tips for Avoiding Holiday Impulse Buying. So the first
Speaker 1: one is just general tips. Second one tips for the
Speaker 1: holiday specifically. Today we are diving into impulse buying a
Speaker 1: little deeper, so we're talking about science behind and strategies
Speaker 1: for intentional shopping. So this one's going to complement episode
Speaker 1: two seventy nine really really well. So let's get into
Speaker 1: our first article, which is from shopify dot com. It's
Speaker 1: what is impulse buying and how do you encourage it?
Speaker 1: So that may sound like a weird title, but what
Speaker 1: this article is it is for marketers on how to
Speaker 1: get people to impulse buy their products. So this is
Speaker 1: a guide. This is what is being taught to the
Speaker 1: people that are marketing to you, and we're going to
Speaker 1: share it with you and talk about it so that
Speaker 1: you understand when and how and why you're being marketed
Speaker 1: to and use that knowledge to fight off the urge
Speaker 1: to impulse buy.
Speaker 3: It's like having a sneak peek behind the scenes what
Speaker 3: all the marketers and their little boardrooms are talking about
Speaker 3: trying to get you to spend money that you don't
Speaker 3: need to spend, But we'll talk about that. Sometimes you
Speaker 3: can spend and it's a big deal. But first of all,
Speaker 3: what is an impulse buy? Through the lens of this article,
Speaker 3: they describe it as it doesn't differ that much from
Speaker 3: a regular purchase, except in one key area where an
Speaker 3: impulse buy is not consciously planned. Compulsive buying happens in
Speaker 3: the spur of the moment. It can be hard for
Speaker 3: any one individual to control, and it can be very
Speaker 3: heavily affected by emotional states ranging from anger to joy.
Speaker 3: Anyone listening might be able to relate to that the
Speaker 3: times that you have bought impulsively, there was probably a
Speaker 3: degree of high intensity emotion happening for you, maybe on
Speaker 3: that spectrum somewhere, And so then it goes on to
Speaker 3: describe some of the science behind buying behavior. They reference
Speaker 3: this kind of first review study that suggested that many
Speaker 3: shopping behaviors are correlated to a number of factors, including
Speaker 3: personality traits, buying beliefs and attitudes, sociocultural values, demographic factors,
Speaker 3: and all of these are linked to both internal and
Speaker 3: external factors. So internal factors being those emotions that we
Speaker 3: were describing, kind of the thoughts and feelings happening inside
Speaker 3: of us, as well as external factors, which can be
Speaker 3: the environment. What's happening or has just happened around us
Speaker 3: can be one of the things that contributes to us
Speaker 3: impulsively purchasing something. We might call this self gifting or
Speaker 3: retail therapy, and maybe shopping as a way to manage mood,
Speaker 3: which might be done intentionally. I am not feeling great,
Speaker 3: I'm going to the store, but not necessarily having an
Speaker 3: idea of what exactly you're going to buy, and it
Speaker 3: just kind of leads to whatever strikes my fancy is
Speaker 3: what I'm going to put into the cart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's treat yourself mentality. I don't know how many
Speaker 1: impulse purchases have resulted from that one gif or one meme,
Speaker 1: one scene from Parks and rec but I have to
Speaker 1: venture to say it is quite a lot.
Speaker 3: And haven't we all kind of secretly desired or more
Speaker 3: openly desired and actually engaged in a treat your self experience? Likes.
Speaker 3: As much as that episode does stress me out, it
Speaker 3: also is like, oh, yeah, but if you had the money,
Speaker 3: that's just a fun day.
Speaker 1: But for right, but it was a day. I think
Speaker 1: people forget that in the show, Treat Yourself was one
Speaker 1: day a year, and now we use it to justify
Speaker 1: our impulse purchases every single day.
Speaker 3: Yes, Well, so then they go on to give an example.
Speaker 3: One from social psychologist Wilhelm Hoffmann talks about how impulses
Speaker 3: emerged through the activation of the associative cluster in long
Speaker 3: term memory in close interaction with perceptual stimulus input. That's
Speaker 3: a lot of words. Here we go with an example.
Speaker 3: So let's say you love cake and you see one
Speaker 3: out of bakery. For me, it's probably gonna be a donut,
Speaker 3: but I'll keep going. Your brain activates a series of urges, desires,
Speaker 3: and impulses to eat. These urges are stimulated by external
Speaker 3: stimuli like the cake, the donut, how it looks, the smell. Well,
Speaker 3: all of our senses are going, and you buy the
Speaker 3: cake without thinking about it. And so this social psycho
Speaker 3: just explains that because of your past experiences with cake
Speaker 3: or donuts or hot dogs, I mean, I'm just going
Speaker 3: to keep adding food in your brain forms these cluster
Speaker 3: of links that A the concept of cake, B has
Speaker 3: a positive effect generated by the cake leading to c
Speaker 3: the repeated patterns of behavior that led to the positive effect.
Speaker 3: And so it's just this connection that our brain makes,
Speaker 3: which is very good. It allows us to be so efficient,
Speaker 3: It allows us to do many things on autopilot and
Speaker 3: muscle memory that does benefit us. I mean, think about
Speaker 3: the times that you've brushed your teeth without even needing
Speaker 3: to think about it. It's related to this thing where
Speaker 3: we kind of have this automatic I'm about to go
Speaker 3: to bed. This is what I've done since i was
Speaker 3: six years old, and so this is what I'm doing now.
Speaker 3: But then it can have this kind of not so
Speaker 3: great impact on our finances if we weren't planning on
Speaker 3: buying that cake, donut, hot dog, that it's just kind
Speaker 3: of this muscle memory. We do it subconsciously, We almost
Speaker 3: do it without thinking about it because we almost we
Speaker 3: feel helpless to the delicious cake. And this then happens
Speaker 3: in almost all areas of spending. It doesn't have to
Speaker 3: just be food. It's whatever association and that goes back
Speaker 3: to the kind of social psychological behaviors of what we
Speaker 3: associate shopping or buying to. And again, when our emotions
Speaker 3: are at play, we can have an association that buying
Speaker 3: this thing is going to make me feel better, or
Speaker 3: buying this thing is going to further how great I
Speaker 3: currently feel. You could be on any end of that spectrum.
Speaker 3: But it can be almost even this coping mechanism that
Speaker 3: leads to some of that impulsivity.
Speaker 1: So Jill talked a lot about food, So let's talk
Speaker 1: about some real data from Slick Deals and they covered
Speaker 1: impulse spending product categories. So we'll talk about the top
Speaker 1: five categories where most people are prone to impulse purchases.
Speaker 3: Oh, they give two less pre pandemic and post Yeah.
Speaker 1: I know, well, they have a pre pandemic and also
Speaker 1: a post pandemic, but we're back to pre pandemic spending
Speaker 1: according to the economy and whatever the people say about that.
Speaker 1: So I'm just going to go through the pre pandemic.
Speaker 1: One coming in at number five, at thirty one percent,
Speaker 1: is coffee, So thirty one percent of impulse purchases. I
Speaker 1: don't think that all this. This definitely doesn't all add
Speaker 1: up to one hundred percent, So I don't know what
Speaker 1: the thirty one percent is. It's coffee. Coming in at
Speaker 1: number four is household items. And you can use this
Speaker 1: data to help yourself and know that. Okay, looking at
Speaker 1: my ninety day transaction inventory, let's first do a sweep
Speaker 1: of coffee, and now let's do a sweep of household
Speaker 1: items that I've purchased, just to see how prone you
Speaker 1: are to each of these categories. The third this was
Speaker 1: shocking to me vehicles is shocked vehicles. Yeah, people are
Speaker 1: impulse buying vehicles. Who would do that, Jill.
Speaker 3: Who would do that? Oh? I almost did that? This
Speaker 3: is so ida. I feel so called out. Literally last weekend,
Speaker 3: we almost we didn't do it. We almost impulse purchased
Speaker 3: a vehicle, and I thought that was wild.
Speaker 1: I'm not alone, though, No you're not, and I have
Speaker 1: some ideas about why, and we'll talk about those later.
Speaker 1: But coming in at number two is clothing, and then
Speaker 1: at number one, nobody will be surprised. The number one
Speaker 1: product category that gets impulse purchased is food and groceries,
Speaker 1: which is why we do so many episodes on this
Speaker 1: show about meal planning, meal prepping, grocery shopping, saving money
Speaker 1: on takeout, and all these things, because this is the
Speaker 1: number one place where we impulse spend. And of the
Speaker 1: big three, our biggest three expenses in our monthly budget, housing, transportation, food.
Speaker 1: So apparently people are impulse buying transportation to Now.
Speaker 3: When is it going to be impulse purchasing houses? Like
Speaker 3: I joke that we don't do that, but maybe we
Speaker 3: maybe we do? No, we you kind of didn't.
Speaker 1: Nobody in this economy, gosh, true, nobody. If you want
Speaker 1: to know what the number one the reason I didn't
Speaker 1: read the post pandemic list is the number one impulse
Speaker 1: spending category on that one is cleaning supplies, And I
Speaker 1: just don't think that that's relevant.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, you're right, that's that was mid pandemic. That
Speaker 3: was yeah, in the thick of I don't yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know what they were saying post pandemic, but
Speaker 1: this list is definitely, I would say accurate from the
Speaker 1: requests we get for episodes, and we've literally done all
Speaker 1: five of these episodes multiple times. Even we have a
Speaker 1: coffee uppisode just on coffee. But it will be to
Speaker 1: your advantage to think about these at least five categories
Speaker 1: and look at your ninety day transaction inventory. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: other things for you, some other things on this list, books,
Speaker 1: take out technology, toys, all the teas and shoes. Look
Speaker 1: at what you are most prone to impulse spending on
Speaker 1: and work on that first before you look at all
Speaker 1: of your impulse buys. Let's work on one big category first,
Speaker 1: and most likely for you, it's going to be food
Speaker 1: or groceries. Food and or groceries, So definitely plenty of
Speaker 1: episodes to help you with that one category.
Speaker 3: So then the article goes into reasons that people impulse
Speaker 3: buy kind of the top five reasons, and they're looking
Speaker 3: at this again from the perspective of what drives shoppers
Speaker 3: to buy instantly, so be aware they're talking about us,
Speaker 3: and let's see what we can learn and what we
Speaker 3: can shift to just be better informed and equipped in
Speaker 3: our spending. But the first is that feeling of getting
Speaker 3: a deal. I can recognize this in myself, that impulse
Speaker 3: buying doesn't always mean spending an entire paycheck on fancy,
Speaker 3: luxury items or products. People also buy things because they
Speaker 3: feel it will just save them money in the long run.
Speaker 3: They reference back again to this Slick Deal's survey where
Speaker 3: they found that fifty two percent of respondents would rather
Speaker 3: take advantage of a deal than pay full price. So
Speaker 3: sales promotions tend to impact sales because consumers are price conscious.
Speaker 3: Most of us are not. Many of us are loving
Speaker 3: the restaurants where they don't put prices next to the wine.
Speaker 3: We know that just means it's unaffordable, and I don't
Speaker 3: mess with.
Speaker 1: That too rich for my blood.
Speaker 3: We are more likely to buy products, buy things, even
Speaker 3: by services that are seemingly offering greater savings. I will
Speaker 3: say this is my own addition. I think sometimes we
Speaker 3: may not even be totally aware of what is the
Speaker 3: going rate for this. Just if a store says, at
Speaker 3: this store, it used to be this, and now it's this.
Speaker 3: Sometimes that can even work, just to see that slice
Speaker 3: through the original price, the red sticker on it, and
Speaker 3: now it's less money than what somebody might have spent.
Speaker 3: That can trigger some impulsivity of and probably even a
Speaker 3: bit of scarcity of when is this next? When is
Speaker 3: this deal going to come around again. There's a lot
Speaker 3: of things that can play into that, but just that
Speaker 3: I'm getting a deal, therefore I'll spend I'll spend it
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 1: I want to create a movement with merch. Every movement,
Speaker 1: every good movement, has merch and I want it to
Speaker 1: be I pay full price, Like that's what I want
Speaker 1: the shirt to say, I pay full price because I
Speaker 1: think if you can change your mentality from always wanting
Speaker 1: to get a deal two I am willing to pay
Speaker 1: full price, you no longer fall victim to sales marketing.
Speaker 1: And so while it is awesome to get a deal
Speaker 1: on something you were going to buy anyway, it's very
Speaker 1: hard to navigate if you were going to buy it anyway.
Speaker 1: You can say you were going to, but I love
Speaker 1: a deal. We talk about deals in the friend Letter,
Speaker 1: but we don't emphasize deals in the friend Letter because
Speaker 1: they cause impulse purchases. Ultimately, a sale is a marketing tactic,
Speaker 1: and so we don't want to market for these companies
Speaker 1: for free and get you to spend money with them.
Speaker 1: We would like you to take money from them in
Speaker 1: the form of freebies and other things. And I think
Speaker 1: that is the reason vehicles are number three on that list,
Speaker 1: because they are always doing sales and always throwing in incentives.
Speaker 1: Every month is the biggest sale of the year, right,
Speaker 1: So I really feel like it's this particular one that
Speaker 1: really attributes to that transportation car one, because I mean,
Speaker 1: what was going to get you to purchase that car
Speaker 1: last weekend, Jill.
Speaker 3: I think it was the knowledge that eventually we will
Speaker 3: probably need and or desire a second vehicle. We've only
Speaker 3: had one vehicle for coming up on four years now,
Speaker 3: which has been awesome, but seeing that it could be
Speaker 3: necessary to have a second. So then when something popped
Speaker 3: up that was very affordable, it was like, okay, well
Speaker 3: should we then get it now? So it was a
Speaker 3: deal for sure, a private sale on Facebook marketplace.
Speaker 1: Possibility, yeah, the possibility, yeah, of probability maybe could be
Speaker 1: useful in the future. Might as well take advantage of
Speaker 1: the deal now sort of idea. So if it is
Speaker 1: close on your horizon, and you have decided that that
Speaker 1: is definitely on your horizon and it makes more sense
Speaker 1: to get the deal now. So that I have definitely
Speaker 1: taken advantage of deals, I've definitely impulse purchased items that
Speaker 1: I know one hundred percent I will buy in the
Speaker 1: next six months. And if I have seen that the
Speaker 1: deal is better then it will be in six months
Speaker 1: or has been whatever, or is what I really want
Speaker 1: on Facebook Marketplace, then yes, I have impulse purchased that.
Speaker 1: And that's when an impulse purchase can be good, it
Speaker 1: can be beneficial, But it's when we start getting into
Speaker 1: those I could maybe I think I might want this,
Speaker 1: I probably will. When you start getting wishy washy about that,
Speaker 1: that's the sign that tells you this is not going
Speaker 1: to be an impulse purchase in my best interest. So
Speaker 1: the next one is physical stimuli. And we don't get
Speaker 1: this as much in our online lives, but when you
Speaker 1: are in person somewhere, you can definitely be influenced by
Speaker 1: physical stimuli. So I'm going to call out Target. That's
Speaker 1: what we're going to talk about. Physical stimuli at Target.
Speaker 1: So store environment data suggests that a pleasant environment encourages
Speaker 1: customers to shop around. Definitely more pleasant. Target is more
Speaker 1: pleasant than other big box stores. Background music studies show
Speaker 1: that soft background music slows the shopping pace, results in
Speaker 1: more spending time salespeople that provide guidance. So this is
Speaker 1: big at higher end stores. So like when you're going
Speaker 1: to the mall, you're at your like Nieman, Marcus's and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and then the last one on the list.
Speaker 1: Promotions sales promotions like Bogo encourage customers to buy larger quantities,
Speaker 1: free vouchers, refunds, free sampling, gift backs. Those are all
Speaker 1: known proven to impact and increase impulse buying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't go to Target. I have an unpopular
Speaker 3: opinion that I just don't care for it there. And
Speaker 3: maybe that's because I don't want a nice environment. I
Speaker 3: want to in and out. I don't care about the
Speaker 3: music or whether or not there's trash on the ground.
Speaker 3: But I can say when I am in a cute
Speaker 3: boutique shop, Yeah, sometimes this happens to me. I actually
Speaker 3: recently saw a reel of somebody I think they called
Speaker 3: it the trash test, that they if they found something
Speaker 3: that was just staged really well in a store. I
Speaker 3: think that they were primarily talking about Target. You know,
Speaker 3: they're at the Joanna Gain section where everything is just
Speaker 3: st aged really beautifully, it looks really lovely. They'd pick
Speaker 3: an item that they think that they're about to purchase
Speaker 3: and take it over to the trash bin aisle, like
Speaker 3: where you'd go to purchase trash cans, and see whether
Speaker 3: the item still looks good there. And they were kind
Speaker 3: of joking about how this is going to be, what
Speaker 3: it's like to take this thing back to your house,
Speaker 3: Like it looks really gready in the like stage Joanna
Speaker 3: Gain section, but like what's it actually going to look
Speaker 3: like in your house? And so if the item still
Speaker 3: holds up in the trash can section, like it still
Speaker 3: is really cute, then then okay, maybe you know you've
Speaker 3: put it through the tests, and if not, then no,
Speaker 3: don't bring it back to your home. It was really interesting,
Speaker 3: like she showed a couple of different items, like here's
Speaker 3: what it looks like in this pretty section of Target.
Speaker 3: Here's what it looks like next to trash cans, and
Speaker 3: it it really did reveal the true quality of the products.
Speaker 3: It was like, oh, yeah, that thing is not as
Speaker 3: cute as it was, and that sections there you go.
Speaker 3: There's just like a hot tip of that environment.
Speaker 1: There's how to cut down your home decor purchases.
Speaker 3: Right. There's the third reason that we can impulse by.
Speaker 3: One of the top reasons is just that feeling of
Speaker 3: instant gratification. Many of us can experience that rush of emotion.
Speaker 3: It might even be a version of stress, which can
Speaker 3: be excitement about making this sale. We might feel a
Speaker 3: little risky and we like that. Wherever you find yourself,
Speaker 3: that instant gratification or even it might calm some stress
Speaker 3: or anxiety that you were feeling. To be able to
Speaker 3: shop around the store and then purchase this item and
Speaker 3: get that immediate rush of this is now mine and
Speaker 3: I have this thing that I've been looking at. Can
Speaker 3: be a reason to impulse shop. Whatever we are being
Speaker 3: sold or we are telling ourselves about the purchase of
Speaker 3: that item, I'm like, this is gonna solve so many problems,
Speaker 3: This is gonna make my life better, and this and
Speaker 3: that way, this is going to make me feel so good.
Speaker 3: Right now in this moment, I'm feeling sad, I'm feeling down,
Speaker 3: I'm feeling happy, I'm feeling treat myself and just the
Speaker 3: seeking of instant gratification can be why we pull out
Speaker 3: our debit card or credit card and just get the thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel very called out by this one. It's
Speaker 1: just think about the last time you needed to finish
Speaker 1: a task but you found yourself browsing Amazon for hours
Speaker 1: or wanted to eat more veggies, only to order wings
Speaker 1: from uber Eads, and I feel offended.
Speaker 3: Do you think that they are watching you at night?
Speaker 3: They've got cameras in your house, writing the article based
Speaker 3: on what they're seeing.
Speaker 1: Now, because I don't use uber eats, but I do
Speaker 1: eat wings. So the article really emphasizes that your brain
Speaker 1: battle between short term rewards and long term rewards. And
Speaker 1: when a shopper in your store, quote unquote your source
Speaker 1: see something they need, the logical part of their brain
Speaker 1: tries to reason with them, and God help me if
Speaker 1: I haven't experienced the same thing. It'll say saving the
Speaker 1: thirty five dollars would be good for their bank accounts
Speaker 1: and they don't really need the shirt. While the emotional
Speaker 1: sides doesn't think about the future, It just sees instant
Speaker 1: gratification as the ultimate reward, and it depends on which
Speaker 1: side wins. So consumer research suggests that shoppers are more
Speaker 1: likely to spend in stores, So when we're in the store,
Speaker 1: usually the emotional side wins out, and then in the
Speaker 1: online the opportunity to put it in the cart and
Speaker 1: forget about it, so more often your logical side can win.
Speaker 1: But when we're talking about frequency of a tech an
Speaker 1: actual physical store versus the opportunity to shop online, Gosh,
Speaker 1: you can access a store from your phone all day,
Speaker 1: every day, so the opportunity to shop is way more
Speaker 1: than having to drive to a store. So in that case,
Speaker 1: it's kind of a wash. So that's why we emphasize
Speaker 1: that values based spending isn't quote unquote finding your why
Speaker 1: or your bigger reason for your financial goals. We have
Speaker 1: to figure out these short term rewards that are more important,
Speaker 1: these short term internal motivators that will win out in
Speaker 1: a battle of your logical and emotional brain. So short
Speaker 1: term things that you're saving for like on a weekly basis,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna buy this coffee because I want to
Speaker 1: be able to buy an appetizer at day on Saturday,
Speaker 1: or negotiating with yourself, I am going to buy this
Speaker 1: latte and I will not buy the appetizer at dinner
Speaker 1: on Saturday. So again where the impulse purchases aren't necessarily bad,
Speaker 1: but you have to make these trade offs in the
Speaker 1: short term to battle this very thing, the instant gratification.
Speaker 3: So speaking of ways now that we can utilize this
Speaker 3: information from that first article and the knowledge of what
Speaker 3: leads us to impulse shopping is how can we stop
Speaker 3: impulse buying and purchase more intentionally. So the second article
Speaker 3: comes from balance through Simplicity, and they're talking to us
Speaker 3: about just that, how to stop impulse buying and purchase
Speaker 3: more intentionally. We'll go through I think the majority of
Speaker 3: these tips. The first tip that they give is avoid
Speaker 3: the shops altogether to prevent impulse buys. So it is
Speaker 3: difficult to buy something on a whim when you're not
Speaker 3: even in the store to shop or make that purchase.
Speaker 3: So if you are identifying that this is an area
Speaker 3: that you are having a lot of struggle in controlling
Speaker 3: shifting behavior, we are not going to advocate long term,
Speaker 3: never go to the store. That's an extreme. You can't
Speaker 3: live life that way. But in the immediacy of training
Speaker 3: yourself differently, finding new coping mechanisms, learning more about yourself
Speaker 3: and what leads you specifically to impulse by. We are
Speaker 3: absolutely going to interrupt the cycle by just not going
Speaker 3: to the stores altogether, and a lot of that does
Speaker 3: have to do with physical presence in the store. As
Speaker 3: you Jen had mentioned in that first article, that just
Speaker 3: being in the store can make a big difference on
Speaker 3: our impulsivity. We are much more likely, especially if the
Speaker 3: environment is really beautiful, soft music's playing to impulse by.
Speaker 3: Then we might be even online. I'm not saying that
Speaker 3: there's not impulsivity that happens online, but there's also something
Speaker 3: to just physically being in a store. So we can't
Speaker 3: just stop a behavior though, especially one that is feeding
Speaker 3: us in some way or is some version of a
Speaker 3: coping mechanism, even if it's not meeting the need all
Speaker 3: the way, we need to replace it with something. So
Speaker 3: they are suggesting when you are wanting to go to
Speaker 3: a store instead, just go for a walk elsewhere. This
Speaker 3: could be outside, maybe someplace inside, but not at a store.
Speaker 3: Go for a walk, get some exercise, move your body,
Speaker 3: allow yourself to think about something else and not even
Speaker 3: be kind of tempted by just the things that your
Speaker 3: eyes see. You could also if it's kind of that
Speaker 3: satisfaction that treat yourself that you're looking for. Consider ways
Speaker 3: to get that at home or for free, like giving
Speaker 3: yourself a manicure, pedicure at home, getting together with a friend,
Speaker 3: just talking with a friend on the phone, watching your
Speaker 3: favorite show, or cute videos of animals. You could journal
Speaker 3: find what works for you. This is not obviously an
Speaker 3: exhaustive list, but the first step is not going to
Speaker 3: the store itself. But you have to then follow it
Speaker 3: up with what will you do instead? Otherwise it'll feel
Speaker 3: like complete deprivation and it won't be sustainable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's the habit loop right. In order to
Speaker 1: break a habit, you have to make the queue invisible,
Speaker 1: i e. Don't go to the store, but you have
Speaker 1: to place it with something just as attractive. So in
Speaker 1: addition to physical stores, I see this driving to work.
Speaker 1: If you're prone to stopping at Starbucks to get breakfast
Speaker 1: or wah wah what have you to get breakfast and
Speaker 1: a coffee, try taking a different route to work for
Speaker 1: a couple weeks. If that's not available, then take the
Speaker 1: apps off your phone. Don't allow yourself to purchase on
Speaker 1: an app. It's not a long term strategy. It could
Speaker 1: be for a lot of us. It won't be a
Speaker 1: long term strategy, but it is a good detox. And
Speaker 1: I would say this is another reason why you're doing
Speaker 1: a ninety day transaction. History is really important so that
Speaker 1: you can see the places that you are prone to
Speaker 1: impulse spending, like the physical places. So maybe you impulse
Speaker 1: buy something on Amazon. What were you doing when you
Speaker 1: were making that purchase? Where were you what had just happened?
Speaker 1: Think about not just the purchase, think about the environment
Speaker 1: and the all of the cues and triggers surrounding you
Speaker 1: when the purchase was made, and try to replace that action.
Speaker 1: Because you were trying to meet some kind of need
Speaker 1: by doing the impulse shopping. How can we replace that
Speaker 1: action was something that will be more suitable and actually
Speaker 1: meet the need more so, like when I had my
Speaker 1: first son, I went to Target a lot and it
Speaker 1: was really just to get out of the house. That's
Speaker 1: what I really needed. And it was too hot outside
Speaker 1: to go for a walk. I mean, that's a great
Speaker 1: suggestion if the weather is nice, but honestly, I just
Speaker 1: needed to be out of my house and it was
Speaker 1: either that's the only way the kid would sleep is
Speaker 1: if they were in the car seat in the car.
Speaker 1: So I'm driving places. Right where do I go? I'm
Speaker 1: going to Starbucks, I'm going to the drive through Taco Bell,
Speaker 1: I'm going to Target. So I had to distill it
Speaker 1: down to figure out, Okay, what was the actual goal.
Speaker 1: The actual goal wasn't that I wanted to be at Target.
Speaker 1: The goal was that I wanted my kid to sleep.
Speaker 1: So that's when I started. Literally, I would put the
Speaker 1: kid in the car, just drive around for ten minutes
Speaker 1: and then come home. That was it, That's what I
Speaker 1: really wanted. It got the job done. And then on
Speaker 1: the days that I did want to actually be outside, honestly,
Speaker 1: I would go to a place where I knew I
Speaker 1: wasn't going to be tempted to buy something, so like
Speaker 1: Niman Marcus, some a really expensive place where I was
Speaker 1: so offended by the prices of genes that I knew
Speaker 1: I wasn't going to spend money. Everything was out of
Speaker 1: my price range. That's where I would go. So you
Speaker 1: have to get creative. Once you identify the true reasons
Speaker 1: behind your impulse spending, then you can get creative in
Speaker 1: how you meet that desire without the actual impulse spending.
Speaker 1: So the next one is to make it difficult to
Speaker 1: spend money. We're running through the habit loop. So I
Speaker 1: think I just covered that, but I'll reiterate taking the
Speaker 1: apps off of your phone. This article also suggests to
Speaker 1: get rid of store cards and credit cards if they
Speaker 1: enable you to make unwise purchases. This is a place
Speaker 1: where promotions can come into play because as a store
Speaker 1: card holder, you get a lot of promotions, a lot
Speaker 1: of extra sales because they want you to put money
Speaker 1: onto that store card. Because these stores make more money
Speaker 1: off of these cards then they do off of your
Speaker 1: purchases at the stores. That is a common thing. The
Speaker 1: harder they push these cards, you know, the more money
Speaker 1: they're making off of them. They know that people who
Speaker 1: have their cards not only are they putting their shopping
Speaker 1: more frequently, they're also buying more product. So they want
Speaker 1: you to get these cards, so get rid of them.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about the hit to your credit. It will
Speaker 1: bounce back soon enough. But whatever is making you like
Speaker 1: unsubscribing from emails, stuff like that, think about the things
Speaker 1: that are enticing you to spend, and then getting rid
Speaker 1: of those. Taking your credit card number out of all
Speaker 1: of your things on your line. Our episode Tips to
Speaker 1: Lower impulse Spending covers a lot of these ways to
Speaker 1: make it more difficult to impulse spend.
Speaker 3: I'm going to combine these next two number three and four,
Speaker 3: So number three is set a budget before you shop,
Speaker 3: and four is don't go shopping when you're feeling emotional.
Speaker 3: Not that they're necessarily the same thing, but I think
Speaker 3: we can say enough about them in a short amount
Speaker 3: of time. We are going to do far better in
Speaker 3: not overspending or spending impulsively. If we've already decided how
Speaker 3: much can we spend, we're going to also feel better
Speaker 3: about what we've spent that day. If we've told ourselves
Speaker 3: ahead of time it's okay, it's within range. I'm giving
Speaker 3: myself permission to spend this amount when I'm going out.
Speaker 3: I think my biggest impulse spends happen at yard sales
Speaker 3: and thrift stores, honestly, and I don't go to them often,
Speaker 3: but for me, a Saturday morning walking around our neighborhood
Speaker 3: and there's yard sales happening, like that's a fun activity
Speaker 3: for me, and I know that there's always going to
Speaker 3: be some sort of goodie to find, whether it's plants
Speaker 3: or a kitchen gadget that I'm still kind of developing
Speaker 3: stuff from my kitchen now that I don't live in
Speaker 3: a vehicle anymore and I actually have a home. Like,
Speaker 3: there's a lot that I just don't have, and sometimes
Speaker 3: I don't know what I don't have until I see
Speaker 3: it out. But this is what works for me is
Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm going to come across, but
Speaker 3: I know I'm going to come across things that I
Speaker 3: think will solve a problem for me. But I'm only
Speaker 3: going to take twenty dollars and it doesn't feel impulsive then,
Speaker 3: just because I didn't exactly plan to buy that salad spinner.
Speaker 3: The salad spinner was a dollar and I don't have one,
Speaker 3: and this is going to be useful for me, so
Speaker 3: it's fine. It's within my budget of things I can
Speaker 3: buy that I'm not even sure exactly what that's going
Speaker 3: to be. The ability to find a good deal and
Speaker 3: a treasure that's what I want on that particular day.
Speaker 3: And then leads into the next one of just being
Speaker 3: aware of our emotional state. And I think a lot
Speaker 3: of times we can think this has to do with
Speaker 3: just feeling really down and I need to pick me up,
Speaker 3: and the pick me up is just going to be
Speaker 3: buying whatever I lay eyes on. But again, as we've said,
Speaker 3: we can impulse buy because of a variety of emotions.
Speaker 3: We can be elated about a good thing that has
Speaker 3: just happened, or really down upset about something that has
Speaker 3: just happened. So being aware of what your emotions lead to,
Speaker 3: how you cope with them, and limiting the shopping that
Speaker 3: you're doing if you are feeling these emotions that are
Speaker 3: going to lead to this, it's not always super feasible.
Speaker 3: Sometimes we do just have to go to the grocery
Speaker 3: store even though it's been a bad day. Even acknowledging
Speaker 3: that can be really helpful of I am a little
Speaker 3: bit more vulnerable to impulse buying today than maybe I
Speaker 3: will it would have been yesterday. And because of that,
Speaker 3: I'm just going to be more aware of the decisions
Speaker 3: that I make when I go to the grocery store.
Speaker 1: And for my last one, I'm going to combine six
Speaker 1: and eight because these are just good practices when you
Speaker 1: are in a store coming and have your hands on
Speaker 1: a product that you want impulse buy, or your hand
Speaker 1: on the mouse trying to put something in your cart.
Speaker 1: Six is to ask yourself, do I have something similar?
Speaker 1: So if you have something that you can repurpose or
Speaker 1: use that does the same thing, like do you need
Speaker 1: a duplicate in just like any way? And then eight
Speaker 1: is to pause and wait. So even if you can't
Speaker 1: answer that question immediately, we're waiting a couple days. If
Speaker 1: it's something in the store, put it back, because you
Speaker 1: know you can get it online. Put it back, and
Speaker 1: you can put it in your cart, on your phone
Speaker 1: and leave it and give it a few days and
Speaker 1: if you still want it, then you can get it online.
Speaker 1: That is the wonder of the internet. But first ask yourself,
Speaker 1: just pause and ask yourself, like, what purpose is this
Speaker 1: going to serve for me? How does it look next
Speaker 1: to my trash cans? Do I have something similar?
Speaker 3: We took thirty five minutes to get to that's the
Speaker 3: best tip. If you were to ask me what's the
Speaker 3: number one tip for impulse purchasing, it's pause. Create a pause. Yeah,
Speaker 3: just pause, paid.
Speaker 1: Create a pause, you know, add it to your cart
Speaker 1: and wait. Pause yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Even just thirty seconds can provide the clarity that
Speaker 3: we need on whether or not we actually want to
Speaker 3: buy the thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems silly. Honestly, when you're in a store
Speaker 1: and you're like holding something and you're pausing, it feels silly.
Speaker 1: But lean into the silly feeling because the silly feeling
Speaker 1: is helping you save money.
Speaker 3: Go pause and take a walk to the trash can section.
Speaker 3: Put it in the trash can section. See if you
Speaker 3: stole on it. You know what we do want. We
Speaker 3: don't have to think about this one. We will impulsively
Speaker 3: do it twice a week.
Speaker 1: It looks great in every trash can section.
Speaker 3: The bill of the week.
Speaker 4: That's right, it's time for the best minute of your
Speaker 4: entire week. Maybe a baby was born and his name
Speaker 4: is Williams. Maybe you've paid off your mortgage. Maybe your
Speaker 4: car died and you're happy to not have to pay
Speaker 4: that bill anymore. That bills, Buffalo bills, Bill Claion, this
Speaker 4: is the bill of the week.
Speaker 5: Hijen and Jill. This is Savannah from Houston, Texas, And
Speaker 5: I'm so excited to tell you about my Bill of
Speaker 5: the week. And recently earned my PhD in biochemistry and
Speaker 5: cell biology, and I wanted to print out my dissertation
Speaker 5: so my parents and I could have a nice bound
Speaker 5: copy of it. Looking online, I saw this going to
Speaker 5: cost from two hundred dollars to have two copies of
Speaker 5: this over one hundred page document printed in full color.
Speaker 5: So I had the genius idea printing most of it
Speaker 5: in black and white and then separately printing the only
Speaker 5: twenty three pages I needed in color. This gave me
Speaker 5: so much money, and when I did it online, I
Speaker 5: also got a twenty five percent off coupon, plus Racketen
Speaker 5: gave me two percent cash back, plus my credit card
Speaker 5: had a five percent cash back reward. So all in all,
Speaker 5: what originally would have cost me two hundred dollars came
Speaker 5: out to just ninety five dollars. I'm super excited about
Speaker 5: this frugal win. Thanks for all you to do. I
Speaker 5: love the show.
Speaker 1: That is amazing. You know what I was thinking. So
Speaker 1: here's something else you could do. I don't know how
Speaker 1: it would show up in color, but you can upload
Speaker 1: it to like Kindle print on demand book books, and
Speaker 1: you can have it printed in like a book form.
Speaker 1: And it's usually very inexpensive to print a book. I
Speaker 1: don't know how many words your thing is, but like
Speaker 1: it can cost less than four dollars to print like
Speaker 1: a twenty thousand word book. So I would love to
Speaker 1: see somebody print their dissertation print on demand and you
Speaker 1: can take it right off of Amazon. But like, I
Speaker 1: honestly would love to see that somebody put their dissertation
Speaker 1: in a print on demand book just to like save money.
Speaker 3: This is amazing. Well done, Savannah with your PhD in
Speaker 3: biochemistry and sell biology with what I can only assume
Speaker 3: means your dissertation has pictures. That's my kind of PhD.
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's pictures that I wouldn't understand, but colored
Speaker 3: pictures nonetheless. And then the way you're stacking deals, I mean,
Speaker 3: of course you're earning your doctorate stacking them, coops, racketing
Speaker 3: credit card points, just doing the back. Well done, Savannah.
Speaker 3: What a good bill, what a good hack, what a
Speaker 3: good degree. You're going places? If you all listening, also
Speaker 3: feel like you're going places and you're getting deals, and
Speaker 3: you're stacking deals and you're hacking stuff and you're just
Speaker 3: not spending nearly as much as you should have, or
Speaker 3: you're spending so much because you don't care and it's
Speaker 3: in your value system, or your name is Bill and
Speaker 3: you have no idea why you're here even listening to
Speaker 3: the Frugal Friends podcast. But your name is Bill. Give
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Speaker 3: We are unhinged and ready for it, and now it's time.
Speaker 1: For around Peo peo, pew pew pew pew. All right,
Speaker 1: so today's lightning round. Have you ever turned an impulse
Speaker 1: purchase into like a valuable possession or have really what
Speaker 1: is an impulse purchase that you do not regret making
Speaker 1: that you not just don't regret, but are glad you made.
Speaker 3: Every single one of them? Is that the bad? Is
Speaker 3: that a bad thing to say? As it goes? Google
Speaker 3: Friends podcast, Let's pack that. Okay, okay, okay, okay. I
Speaker 3: may not totally stand by that. I'm unhinged. It's you know,
Speaker 3: we're into the second half of the show.
Speaker 1: So given a commission to leave your body for your
Speaker 1: mind to leave your body.
Speaker 3: So one hundred percent the spiral staircase. Many of you
Speaker 3: have heard about this already, but actually a very similar
Speaker 3: experience to what just happened this past weekend with almost
Speaker 3: car purchase. But Eric, my husband and I have been
Speaker 3: in the midst of renovating our home for the past
Speaker 3: three years. About a year into our renovation, we're I mean,
Speaker 3: we're in high spend mode for sure. We had money
Speaker 3: set aside to just totally gut and redo this place.
Speaker 3: And he comes to me with a picture on Facebook
Speaker 3: marketplace of a spiral staircase that someone is selling and
Speaker 3: thinking him just thinking, oh, wouldn't that be funny? And
Speaker 3: for me, I'm like, no, actually, that's a dream come true.
Speaker 3: Can we do it? And so impulsively yes, we did.
Speaker 3: It went to this place. We had to uninstall the
Speaker 3: spiral staircase from their second story balcony and then install
Speaker 3: it at our house. But it is a feature of
Speaker 3: the outside of the property. Everyone who comes over does
Speaker 3: comment on it, mostly because they think it leads somewhere.
Speaker 3: It just goes to the roof. They're like, what's up there,
Speaker 3: Let's let this viral staircase. Where does it go? And
Speaker 3: we're like, I'm the roof. That's it. It just goes
Speaker 3: to the roof. But it looks awesome and I have
Speaker 3: no regrets about that. Granted we didn't spend a ton
Speaker 3: of money on it. That does help in whether or
Speaker 3: not I'm going to regret it is how much I
Speaker 3: spent on it. Oh, here is ones that I regret.
Speaker 3: I'm changing the way that this question is being asked.
Speaker 3: With something you don't regret, something you do regret. My
Speaker 3: regrets are lipsticks and lip glosses. It's like the purchase
Speaker 3: that I can't seem to get right. I will buy
Speaker 3: a lipstick thinking I like that color, but obviously you
Speaker 3: can't try it because I'm not going to the beauty stores.
Speaker 3: I'm getting it off the shelf at Walmart and it's
Speaker 3: in plastic and you can't try it before you buy it.
Speaker 3: And then I get in the car, put it on,
Speaker 3: instantly realized, no, that doesn't look good on me, and
Speaker 3: now what to be done. I can't return it, so
Speaker 3: I am minimal in every single area. But I've got
Speaker 3: a handful of lipsticks that I probably will never wear.
Speaker 3: I tried it once, didn't work. I regret those impulse purchases. Well,
Speaker 3: now I know, are we gonna spoil it.
Speaker 1: In two weeks? If that sounds like you, then we
Speaker 1: have an episode for you. Just stick with us. In
Speaker 1: two weeks. We've got we solved it.
Speaker 3: Got something.
Speaker 1: Because I also have the same issue. I have a
Speaker 1: handful of lipsticks that just don't look good at man,
Speaker 1: I bought them because they look good on somebody else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we solved that problem, though, so stay tuned.
Speaker 1: We solve that problem. Yes, yes, I love your spiral staircase.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure Eric did not think you were
Speaker 1: going to go along with it because it was so
Speaker 1: soon after the indoor water feature.
Speaker 3: Tobaccle tobackle. Well, we never did purchase an indoor water feature.
Speaker 3: He still wants one, right, Yeah, he wants the water
Speaker 3: feature very much, wants.
Speaker 1: An indoor water feature, and that's not aligned with Jill's values.
Speaker 1: I would say, gosh, my first inkling was my best
Speaker 1: impulse purchase. Was having a second child was kind of
Speaker 1: an impulse decision, right. I can't say my second son
Speaker 1: was my best impulse purchase, though he does cost quite
Speaker 1: a bit of money.
Speaker 3: I mean that it costs money they have him, so yeah,
Speaker 3: I say it counts.
Speaker 1: My worst impulse purchase was this house that we currently
Speaker 1: live in that we are renovating. I would say my
Speaker 1: best impulse purchase was our other house that we left.
Speaker 1: We decided so we were getting kicked out of our
Speaker 1: rental and they were like you have six weeks to leave.
Speaker 1: It wasn't on us. He just wanted to turn it
Speaker 1: into an airbnb. So he's like, get out, and we
Speaker 1: were on a month to month so he could do that,
Speaker 1: and so we just decided, you know what, we don't
Speaker 1: want to rent anymore. We want to buy a house.
Speaker 1: And then thirty days later we were homeowners and best
Speaker 1: decision we ever impulse made.
Speaker 3: See you are out here impulse buying homes.
Speaker 1: That is a fact. Wow, I laughed, But it is
Speaker 1: a fact.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess we kind of impulse purchased our
Speaker 3: home too. Well, it's not something we're doing every day,
Speaker 3: so our points stuf holds up. We're not daily impulsively
Speaker 3: buying houses.
Speaker 1: In this economy.
Speaker 3: Couldn't couldn't even Well, everyone, thanks for being here, Thanks
Speaker 3: for listening. Hope, we hope it helps. We hope it
Speaker 3: helps you understand yourself why you're impulse buying one. It's
Speaker 3: fine and okay, and when you need to press the
Speaker 3: brakes on it, we're just glad you're here, and we
Speaker 3: also are so glad when you all leave us. Such
Speaker 3: kind reviews like this one from Lisa Tella, who's actually
Speaker 3: a friend of ours, lovely and reasonable. Thanks for not
Speaker 3: making me do six side hustles because I'm tired. This
Speaker 3: is such a fun and accessible show for new and
Speaker 3: experienced frugal folks alike. She's so good with words. Thank you,
Speaker 3: Lisa Tella.
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you for listening. If you enjoyed the show,
Speaker 1: please take a minute to leave a rating and review.
Speaker 1: It helps potential new listeners know what our show is
Speaker 1: all about and if it's right for them.
Speaker 3: See you next time. Frugal Friends is produced by Eric Sirianni.
Speaker 1: Jill. This morning, I had a four mile training run
Speaker 1: and I forgot my phone at home, which is troublesome
Speaker 1: because my phone also has my driver's license and my
Speaker 1: credit card in it. Yeah, but most troublesome because it
Speaker 1: has my music on it, and there's nothing worse than
Speaker 1: silent cardio. So I know that. I'm like, I'm rolling
Speaker 1: up to the I know I'm rolling up to the gym.
Speaker 1: I was going to just go home. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I can't do it. I can't. There's just going to
Speaker 1: be the Hallmark Movie Channel. They're going to be playing
Speaker 1: Reba in Silence, and I don't know what's going on
Speaker 1: in that show. I can't run four miles on Riba,
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know what, a little bit
Speaker 1: is better than nothing. And if I go home, I
Speaker 1: can't go back out because I don't have enough time
Speaker 1: because I got an interview at eleven. So I stopped
Speaker 1: at the gym and I went and I you know, started,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, you know what, I'm going
Speaker 1: to run for five minutes and then I'll walk a
Speaker 1: minute and I'll just keep going and do that and
Speaker 1: until you know, I feel like I'm not gonna I
Speaker 1: can't do it anymore. And you know what, by the
Speaker 1: grace of our Lord, Catfish.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so I I couldn't hear it.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what they were saying.
Speaker 3: It matter not with Catfish.
Speaker 1: Did I did four miles?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 1: And I was watching Catfish.
Speaker 3: Yes, you'd hold time. Oh Jenna, yep. This is making
Speaker 3: brought me through. I get it. I don't know if
Speaker 3: we've ever talked about this before, but we have a
Speaker 3: shared love for Catfish. I mean, I guess I don't
Speaker 3: know the degree of your love for it. But anytime
Speaker 3: Eric and I are at a hotel and you can
Speaker 3: just watch TV, I mean, no one really has TV anymore.
Speaker 3: But Catfish and Ridiculousness is all that's on TV anymore,
Speaker 3: or and sometimes Shark Tank. We watched those three shows
Speaker 3: just on repeat. There has been a time where we
Speaker 3: were at a hotel. We wanted to go out and
Speaker 3: explore the area that we were vacationing too, but we
Speaker 3: couldn't pull ourselves away from the episode of Catfish that
Speaker 3: we got roped into, or like yeah, yeah, yeah, we're
Speaker 3: about to leave. We had like our bags and everything ready,
Speaker 3: but had to finish the episode of Catfish before we left.
Speaker 3: I mean, I wasn't running, but me too, I get
Speaker 3: glory to it.
Speaker 1: So I actually hate Ridiculousness. I think that show is
Speaker 1: this like scum of the earth.
Speaker 3: No, I love you watch your mouth? Oh yeah it is.
Speaker 3: I love Rob dear Deck.
Speaker 1: Catfish is out here saving people like it's helping people.
Speaker 1: It is a service to the world. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: probably the best thing on MTV at this point short time.
Speaker 3: But the year deer Deck is just really oh my word,
Speaker 3: I think he's so funny. Yes, mm hmmm. Did you
Speaker 3: ever watch Factory? Nope? I don't know what that is.
Speaker 3: That was the show that he had previously on MTV.
Speaker 1: He used to be like, I'm not a big MTV girl.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I really enjoyed him on Fantasy Factory,
Speaker 3: and then when he had Ridiculousness. I just think he's
Speaker 3: so funny. I think his transitions are so good. Really,
Speaker 3: he's my inspiration for my personality here on our show.
Speaker 3: So I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't know went that deep. I guess maybe
Speaker 1: I just haven't given him enough of a chance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you need to watch again. Don't worry about West Coast,
Speaker 3: Chanelle Chanell West Coast. Don't worry about her, although she is,
Speaker 3: I mean she's she's enjoyed West Coast.
Speaker 1: I don't even know who that is. I don't watch Ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I don't know Ridiculousness enough to know what that means.
Speaker 3: Then you can't you can't call it trash if you
Speaker 3: don't know it that well, take it next to the
Speaker 3: trash cans and then decide and see will do