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Of course, we have 11 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: much more on this coming up as Bloomberg surveillance continues. 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: Just looking at market reaction, those stocks are jumping in Europe. 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: The decks in Germany now up two point two percent, 14 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: the CAC in Paris up two point one percent, FT 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: one hundred up six tenths percent, SNPE mini futures now 16 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: up eighteen points and DOWI mini futures up a hundred nineteen. 17 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: NASA DOCU mini futures up forty one. Ten year treasury 18 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: up four thirty seconds, the yield one point eight six percent, 19 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: and that's a Bloomberg Business Flash, Tom and thank you 20 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: Karen Moscow. Well, it looks like Mario Drag is throwing 21 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: the book at the markets, making many changes to monetary policy. 22 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: For the European Central Bank, they cut the main financing rate, 23 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: their main benchmark rate to zero, that's a five basis 24 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: point cut. They lower the marginal lending facility to twenty 25 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: five basis points, and they cut the deposit rate to 26 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: negative forty basis points attend basis point cut which had 27 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,919 Speaker 1: been expected. They are also increasing q E eighty billion 28 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: euros a month, another twenty billion a month. They are 29 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: also announcing a new series of long term repot operations 30 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: with banks, loans to banks. They're expanding q E to 31 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: include non bank corporate bonds. That is a very interesting 32 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: change by the e c B. A lot of people 33 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: did not think they would get to their to that 34 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: yet Mario Drag says that, or at least the ECB 35 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: says that the measures will take effect on March sixteen. 36 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: So an enormous amount of changes in European monetary policy. Tom, 37 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: and you see it with a movement and yields. Yields 38 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: went lower and more negative for the German two year 39 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: they reversed sharply, I would suggest off the corporate paper announcement, 40 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: the German two year negative point five three two is 41 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: fractionally less negative. A more positive movement on the German 42 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: two year. The euro craters not back to any kind 43 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: of support or to a two standard deviation move but 44 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: a one oh eight seventy five is in a full 45 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six pips for the Euro. This is 46 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: a weaker euro. Mike, I would put the mark on 47 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: support in the vicinity of one oh eight twenty seven 48 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: fifty year sixty pips away and two standard deviations is 49 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 1: one eight thirteen. So we're a bit of ways from 50 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: any kind of breakdown in the Euro, even though the 51 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: year's weaker off the announcement. Alright, le's get some expert 52 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: analysis of this from Brunello Rossof with Rubini Economics. Brunella 53 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: Barrio Dragon today had a number of alternatives he could 54 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: have chosen to stimulate growth in the euro Zone. He 55 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: chose all of them. Basically. Yes, effectively, he when the 56 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: full monty almost in the sense that he has lowered 57 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: all the three um policy rates that they had his boso, 58 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: of course, most notably the deep rate by ten basis point, 59 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: but also the MTROW by five basis point. That could 60 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: be important for the pricing on the new tl t ros. 61 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: Now we need to see what these new t L 62 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: t ros are about. If there's any um a difference 63 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: with the previous one that were launched in June twenty fourteen, 64 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: probably the pricing, as I was saying, is going to 65 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: be lower due to the law where emer eight. The 66 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: big suppress if you want, is the increasing the size 67 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: of TWI from sixty up to immediately eighty billions a month. UH. 68 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: A seventy billion expansion would have been more likely, but 69 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: clearly the we didn't want to disappoint the market at 70 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: this stage. Mike jump in here with Bruno as well. 71 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: I want to say markets on the move, futures explode 72 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: called asset friendly of fifteen jowl futures of one oh 73 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: six to seventeen thousand, twenty the German two years I 74 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: just put that out and Bloomberg Radio plus it's a 75 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: five point make it a six percent move. I see 76 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: no end yet to the surge of German two year 77 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: yields some negative zero point five six all the way 78 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: up through negative zero point five one Mike, that bears 79 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: close watching. Why do you suppose that is But no, 80 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: we would have thought it would go the other way. Well, 81 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: we need to see what the positioning was. But if 82 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: you want to find perhaps more fundamental explanation, if people 83 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: think that this is a fully reflectionary move in the reality, 84 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: you should see UM rates to go eventually up. Perhaps 85 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: the two years a bit uh short maturity to see 86 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: those kind of movements, but there's the chance that people 87 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: see this is eventually something that the market could work 88 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 1: with in terms of eventually get de declation. Mike, Jamie 89 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: mcgever over writers just puts out on Twitter or photograph 90 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: of a kitchen sink that about sums it up. Well. 91 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: The one thing I may have missed it because there 92 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: is so much out of the ECB this morning brit Al, 93 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: but they didn't seem to change the basis on which 94 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: they make their buying decisions the capital key. So they 95 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: seem to have addressed that by allowing the central banks 96 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: to buy the corporate bonds. Yes, I mean the expansion 97 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: of eligible as it's already happened in December last year 98 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: when they expanded to a local regional municipal bonds clearly 99 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: if they want to expand further the pace of US 100 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: and purchases and and from six to tweight is a 101 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: big expansion. They needed to find nuances to buy in 102 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: order to reduce discussity effect that was already affecting UM 103 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: bood deals. And by the way, this reduction of discuss 104 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: effect might be also behind the rise in UH some 105 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: of the bood deals that we were discussing before the 106 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: shots in that case, So I think that there's also 107 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: an explanation for what's going on in the market. Now. 108 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: You know, if this is que tout whatever it is, 109 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: is there any more ammunition other than the simplicity of 110 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: just lower rates? How is the toolbox set for Mr 111 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: Druggy going forward? So they are probably already reaching the limits. 112 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: So they can do UM given the current tool kit, 113 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: because you know, in terms of deperate they might they 114 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: might go perhaps a minus fifty basis point perhaps lightly 115 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: lower by introducing it to tier preserve system on them. 116 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: On the que side, UH, they cannot expand and definitely 117 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: so will. They would need something new to buy. And 118 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: this new thing is probably something that is not available yet, 119 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: and it's what you might call urobone, right, something that 120 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: is created by some form of this comunion that needs 121 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: to happen in the Eurozone. But as we all know, 122 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: in order for that to happen, you probably need another 123 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: crisis first, and then there will be another quantum leap 124 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: into the eurobonds and then they we will have plenty 125 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: of stuff to buy. But we're not there yet. Its uh. 126 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: One of the problems the e CP has faced is 127 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: we don't get a reaction of monetary policy in the 128 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: periphery countries, we get in the core. They seem to 129 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: be wanting to address that with the l t r os. 130 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: Four years is the term for this, and they can 131 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: borrow at a rate equal to the deposit rate, so 132 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: they can you can borrow money and the EASYP essentially 133 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: is going to be paying you to do it. Yes, 134 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: um and and but this is something I'm a bit 135 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: concerned about because we saw what happened when the Alto 136 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: and even the TMTRO was um introduced. Banks did use 137 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: those uh dis liquidity to going to and buy the 138 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: high yielding sovereign credit being the Italian b Titis, Spanish 139 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: bonus and a bigger filness and all the rest um 140 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: and uh and instead what we really would like to 141 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: see is this nexus between banks and sovereigns to be 142 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: broken eventually? If that happens again, I fear that we 143 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: are actually making this next is even strong that and 144 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: so financial stability concernment actually increase is supposed to decrease. 145 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: Am I correct that the ECB will take in siemens 146 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: corporate debt. When we say corporate bonds, are they gonna 147 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 1: bring in total a franc and semens of Germany. So 148 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why we didn't expect this to 149 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: happen or be announced foreman Is so to speak, is 150 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: because um, they were already buying some of the corporate 151 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: bonds of quasi solvents so to speak via the agency 152 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 1: program where you had you know that right? So I 153 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: really want to see how they want to address this 154 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 1: because as you can understand, um, they don't want to 155 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: take as much I could rea, so they cannot be 156 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: in the high in space. They need that. I like that. 157 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: You need to see more information in March sixteenth or 158 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: whatever the data is. But critically, here, did Mario Draggy 159 00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: just make Europe more like Japan? Yeah, we probably made 160 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: another set and that direction I'm not sure It's a 161 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: good thing because, as we saw, if you keep on 162 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: addressing this long term issue with only with monitory instruments 163 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: and nothing changes on on the physical uh, you're not 164 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: gonna solve the problem and make it divorced. Thirty seconds left. Uh, 165 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: we're seeing a big market reaction dragging through the kitchen 166 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: sink at it. Does the market reaction last or is 167 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: this just covering positions? Uh, there's a bit of both. 168 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: But you know, the package is quite significant, so the 169 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: market is probably going to appreciate the fact that the 170 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: bank has decided to surprise on the upside this time around, 171 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: and so this reaction is probably going last, especially under 172 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: euro dollar, which is probably started at decent to use party. 173 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: But we don't think it's gonna go to party anytime. 174 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: So fabulous Brunello rules are just absolutely fabulous. With Robini economics, 175 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: a euro well moves towards parody one oh nine called 176 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: one ten to one oh eight fifty UH, US futures 177 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: surge up nineteen, Dell futures up one, Mario dragging with 178 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: every tool available. We'll have the press conference at eight thirty. 179 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: Stay with us