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Speaker 2: And it's funny because I didn't know black people dying

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Speaker 7: Back to it.

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Speaker 8: Larry Elder, Mark Lamont Hill, Here's what's bothering me. This

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Speaker 9: Going to see therapists, We call people crazy. When you

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Speaker 6: I think also with young black.

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Speaker 9: When they display behaviors that are clearly crying for help,

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Speaker 10: Well, I think the media proceeds brook racism to be

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Speaker 10: And I think the reason that the Left once that

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Speaker 7: So black people have been trained.

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Speaker 10: Surprise, surprise, people in Ferguson believe that the racist criminal

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Speaker 7: No, it is not a major problem in this country. No,

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Speaker 7: it is not.

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Speaker 10: My father was a janitor. He was born in the

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Speaker 7: This is what happens in America, raised three boys, educated them.

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Speaker 10: If Black America were a country brooke, it would be

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Speaker 10: For crying out loud, this is not your grandfather's America.

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Speaker 7: We ought not act like it is.

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Speaker 9: Please, Larry, I haven't insulted you, but I'm Larry, I'm.

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Speaker 10: Think you think the problem arm Black Temple is a

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Speaker 6: I've had the problem, Larry.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 10: Of less than two percent of the total Lamont less

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Speaker 7: Are we doing about What are we doing about it?

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Speaker 9: We're doing lots of things, but you can't suggest that

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Speaker 10: them by the way, unsolved.

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Speaker 7: So let's have some perspective here.

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Speaker 10: I can't get a good idea on how many numbers

446
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Speaker 10: of blacks, unarmed blacks are killed by the police.

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Speaker 4: Yes, he didn't ask about black on black arm.

448
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he bringing up shit that nobody's asking about. He's

449
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 3: almost like the people you interact with on Twitter. You're

450
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Speaker 3: having a conversation and they already got their bullet points,

451
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Speaker 3: they talking points, they already have their the story saved

452
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Speaker 3: and archive did they posted out on the message boards,

453
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Speaker 3: and they'll start putting words in your mouth and claiming

454
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Speaker 3: you said shit that you didn't say.

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Speaker 2: And you're like, because it's stuff that they know they

456
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Speaker 2: can argue with, because they argue with people like that

457
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Speaker 2: all day. But they're only prepared to defend a certain

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Speaker 2: amount of points, to talk about a certain amount of issues,

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Speaker 2: and they just want to get back to that. That's

460
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Speaker 2: what news is now. That's why they invite these guys

461
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Speaker 2: on is because they're gonna get to their talking points

462
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Speaker 2: and nothing else.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and when you start talking about things outside of

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Speaker 3: that rim, they don't want to talk about that because

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Speaker 3: that distracts the things that they've already got a pre

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Speaker 3: prepared message for.

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Speaker 6: Ye.

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Speaker 4: So that's what he did.

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Speaker 10: But it appears to be the number might be maybe

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Speaker 10: two percent of total blacks killed in.

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Speaker 7: A given year.

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Speaker 9: I'm confused about what perspective that gives us. Larry, I

473
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Speaker 9: don't disagree with you that we should be concerned about

474
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Speaker 9: black on black violence. I think all of us are,

475
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Speaker 9: many of us, including myself, we are. Let me just

476
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Speaker 9: finish the thought. We organize about it, we teach about it.

477
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Speaker 9: I'm in Chicago very regularly doing that anti violence work.

478
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Speaker 9: I think that matters, But that doesn't mean that we

479
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Speaker 9: should be talking about that instead of talking about an

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Speaker 9: unarmed black child with his hands in the air, who

481
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Speaker 9: was killed, who is essentially executed. And I find it

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Speaker 9: mind boggling that whenever a black child, a teenager, a

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Speaker 9: black person man or woman is killed by law enforcement,

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Speaker 9: suddenly people feign outrage about black owned black crime.

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Speaker 6: A whole bunch of people only talk about.

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Speaker 9: Black on black crime when it's not a black person

487
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Speaker 9: killing a black person.

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Speaker 6: It's when this happens.

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Speaker 9: And the reason why the black community is so outraged

490
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Speaker 9: right now is because a black kid child was killed

491
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Speaker 9: like many other times, and it's being done with impunity.

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Speaker 6: Law enforcement is getting.

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Speaker 9: Off the hook, and that's what people are concerned will

494
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Speaker 9: happen here if we don't protest. Black people go to

495
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Speaker 9: jail for killing other black people. Black people go to

496
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Speaker 9: jail for killing white people. But oftentimes when law enforcement

497
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Speaker 9: is attacking black folk and killing them, there is no response.

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Speaker 9: They do it with impunity, and that's what people outrage

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Speaker 9: the bid and we have a right.

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Speaker 6: To talk about.

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Speaker 8: Let me just jump in because I hear you hear

502
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Speaker 8: Larry's point. I know, Mark, you agreed with him talking

503
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Speaker 8: about black fathers and the absence of black fathers and

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Speaker 8: all these different uses schools really are that are important

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Speaker 8: to discuss. But when it comes to the president, let

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Speaker 8: me just bring it back to your op ed. Mark

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Speaker 8: and Larry, I want you to weigh in. You know,

508
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Speaker 8: if the president should talk more overtly about race, what

509
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Speaker 8: should he say?

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Speaker 10: The President gave a speech in two thousand and seven

511
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Speaker 10: when he was Senator Brook and he said that the

512
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Speaker 10: Moses generation, the generation of Martin Luther King, had gotten

513
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Speaker 10: us ninety percent of the way there. Our generation, he

514
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Speaker 10: referred to his own generation as the Joshua generation, has

515
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Speaker 10: to give us the rest of the ten percent. Eric

516
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Speaker 10: Holder has frequently talked about the pernicious.

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Speaker 7: Racism in America.

518
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Speaker 10: Gave a speech a few weeks ago where he outlined

519
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Speaker 10: what he called pernicious racism. It included things like photo

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Speaker 10: voter ID, which most black support different expulsion rates, which

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Speaker 10: happened no matter what the school did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is not he asked, No, and who's he

523
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Speaker 3: talking what blacks? He's talking to this school with voter

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Speaker 3: with the spression right? Okay, No.

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Speaker 7: Seven.

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Speaker 10: When he was Senator brook And he said that the

527
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Speaker 10: Moses generation, the generation of Martin Luther King, had gotten

528
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Speaker 10: us ninety percent of the way there. Our generation, he

529
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Speaker 10: referred to his own generation as the Joshua generation, has

530
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Speaker 10: to get us the rest of the ten percent. Eric

531
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Speaker 10: Holder has frequently talked about the pernicious racism in America.

532
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Speaker 10: Gave a speech a few weeks ago where he outlined

533
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Speaker 10: what he called pernicious racism. It included things like photo

534
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Speaker 10: voter ID, which most Blacks support different expulsion rates, which

535
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Speaker 10: happens no matter what the school district is around the country.

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Speaker 10: And he also mentioned different sentencing arrest rates when.

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Speaker 7: The Sidant Commission. Excuse me, he mentioned.

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Speaker 10: Different sentencing rates when the commission has said that those

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Speaker 10: different rates and there it are is true that blacks

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Speaker 10: are sitting somewhat longer than whites of the same crime,

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Speaker 10: but the reason are legitimate factors, including arrest records.

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Speaker 7: So when you look at the racism that Obama.

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Speaker 10: Talks about, I'm trying to figure out what it actually

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Speaker 10: he is talking about that is as important as the

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Speaker 10: problem of the athens of father black.

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Speaker 9: This is like, this is like a verbal tick with conservatives.

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Speaker 9: Whenever a black person is treated unjustly, they say, Hey,

548
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Speaker 9: but you don't have a father, Hey but you kill

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Speaker 9: each other, as if that makes black people disposable, as

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Speaker 9: though somehow blacks worthy of death.

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Speaker 7: That's not what I didn't say.

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Speaker 6: I didn't say what you said.

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Speaker 9: What I'm saying like that at all, Larry, I'm not

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Speaker 9: saying you just said that. What you just did was

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Speaker 9: bring up black fathers in a conversation about an unarmed

556
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Speaker 9: black child being killed. Michael Brown has a father. Two

557
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Speaker 9: days ago, I stood with Michael Brown's father and hugged

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Speaker 9: him as he cried that his unarmed child was killed

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Speaker 9: by a police officer. And having a father. Having a

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Speaker 9: father doesn't make you more or less likely to get

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Speaker 9: killed by law enforcement. They don't ask for DNA reports

562
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Speaker 9: before they shoot you. That's the problem here, and as

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Speaker 9: far as racism.

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Speaker 6: Persisting, it does, Larry, it just does. And every empirical.

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Speaker 10: Study is asking you for perspective. I'm asking you for

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Speaker 10: a perspective. The number one preventable cause of death for

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Speaker 10: young black men is homicide. The number one preventable cause

568
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Speaker 10: for death of young white men are car accidents. I'm

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Speaker 10: asking you for perspective. How often does all the way?

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Speaker 2: That was the second thing she did that on me.

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Speaker 2: She said, like, what a good what a good fact, Larry,

572
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Speaker 2: like this, like she's so clueless in this conversation.

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Speaker 3: I don't really think she has no idea what they're

574
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Speaker 3: talking about.

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Speaker 2: She's just listening to two people argue the field time

576
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Speaker 2: twenty four hour news like.

577
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Speaker 3: This is what the fuck you get when you have

578
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Speaker 3: to have She don't really care. She could give a

579
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Speaker 3: fuck about what they're talking about.

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Speaker 7: It happened that an unarmed black is shot by a cop.

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Speaker 10: And furthermore, every eight hours under the.

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Speaker 9: Rug, Larry, every twenty eight hours, according to the MXGM study,

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Speaker 9: a black person a black person is killed by.

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Speaker 7: Long enforce sabatory is dead into the hogo alone on

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Speaker 7: the weekend.

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Speaker 6: Seven okay, okay, okay, we're not having it.

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Speaker 8: On Hold on, hold on, gentlemen, let me just let

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Speaker 8: me pipe in, because there was another shooting yesterday involving

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Speaker 8: a twenty three year old African American.

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Speaker 2: All right, so then that's when they went to commercial,

591
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Speaker 2: and that's when they did the second segment.

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Speaker 3: So I'm not having an oppression of this, Like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can only concentrate on one thing. But this

594
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: is like the Black Republican response. Man, Like they gotta

595
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Speaker 2: come out of the come out of the water, you know,

596
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: like come out of woodwork, cross from under the rocks.

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Speaker 2: They were kind of scared to say something in the

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Speaker 2: first few days, but they're here now, you know, and

599
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 2: it's time for them to shine. Uh you know, I

600
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 2: think uh was GLP Blackjack was saying some stuff about yeah, yeah,

601
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Speaker 2: she was on Twitter getting everybody all rolled up and ship.

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Speaker 4: I don't really I don't follow her and stuff.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know, but I see people something, not

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Speaker 3: very few people, because I don't follow people that actually

605
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 3: interact very heavily. Seeing a few people kind of interacting

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Speaker 3: with her, and I don't see the point. It's fruitless.

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Speaker 3: You're not gonna change your mind, and she's not gonna

608
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Speaker 3: change yours.

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Speaker 2: Remember when we had we covered that story about her

610
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Speaker 2: speaking up about how the Cliven Bunny thing was, you know,

611
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Speaker 2: showing how people will.

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Speaker 4: Racist because.

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Speaker 2: The principle of it was the same, but because he

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Speaker 2: was white, a lot of the Republicans seemed to support him, right,

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Speaker 2: and she ended up basically getting shit talked about her

616
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Speaker 2: own party and a lot of black people was like,

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Speaker 2: this is the time we need to reach out to her,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, are you serious? People wanted us

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Speaker 2: to have her on the show. Remember that ye y'all

620
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Speaker 2: should invite her on the show. She's finally seeing the light,

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Speaker 2: And I was like, are you freaking serious? Right now,

622
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Speaker 2: she will be back to trolling y'all in no time,

623
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Speaker 2: flat flat dead kid. Hey, let's just it's time to

624
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Speaker 2: get these these barbs in. She said, why was Michael

625
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Speaker 2: Brown living with his grandmother? That was her first tweet. So,

626
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Speaker 2: because mcclor is white and his dad is a police

627
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Speaker 2: officer was shot by a black man when he was twelve,

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Speaker 2: he's unfit to prosecute the case.

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Speaker 4: Bs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people are saying that the prosecutor shouldn't be allowed

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Speaker 2: to prosecute the case because his father shot by a

632
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Speaker 2: black man, and he was a police officer. Most of

633
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Speaker 2: the fifty nine people arrested in ferguson Monday lived there.

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Speaker 4: Not from out of town. Stopped the lives.

635
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Speaker 2: I didn't live with my grandparents growing up because my

636
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Speaker 2: parents were married and took responsibility to raise their children anything.

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Speaker 2: What's that thing where the Republican response to anything that

638
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Speaker 2: black people experienced negatively is.

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Speaker 4: What about what's wrong with black people?

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Speaker 2: So it's like, hey, a cop shot an unarmed black man, Well,

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Speaker 2: what's your father?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 2: Hey, there's a systematic racial profiling going on at Barney's. Yeah, well,

644
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Speaker 2: how many y'all were raising two parent household you know

645
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Speaker 2: where it's like the same thing we just witnessed when

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Speaker 2: I just played those clips. They don't want to have

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Speaker 2: the discussion about what just happened. They want to have

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00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: a completely different disc which is this black people's fault,

649
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Speaker 2: which assuages the guilt feelings with assuages the idea that

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Speaker 2: we have American problems with the suages that I like,

651
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Speaker 2: It just makes people feel like, hey, these are black problems.

652
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Speaker 2: These are problems intrinsically tied to black culture, and it

653
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Speaker 2: has nothing to do with their history has nothing to

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Speaker 2: do with us, so we can wash our hands of it,

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Speaker 2: and we can feel like they're inferior to us, so

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Speaker 2: we can continue to carry on because it's.

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Speaker 4: All their problem. Why are we even discussing this?

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Speaker 3: Right? And but the and the part about that that

659
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Speaker 3: piss me off too is because you have fathers period

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Speaker 3: that are walking away from homes, not only black, white

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Speaker 3: white fathers.

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Speaker 2: You have she already got you, she already got you.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about that that that wasn't even that's not

664
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 2: even the topic in hand. You see what I'm saying.

665
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: It's good because everybody gets their passion stoked up to

666
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: just go to some other hot button issue to discuss

667
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 2: that they do want to have a discussion about. But yeah,

668
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: that has nothing to do with Michael Brown.

669
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 3: No, not at all. And and and for me personally,

670
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 3: that's why, like it just pisses me off, and I'm

671
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: like fuck it. Like like a lot of a lot

672
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 3: of the interactions and things like that. I might say

673
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 3: some stuff here and there, but a lot of it

674
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 3: is irrational. It's illogical, it's dumb, it's idiotic. And I

675
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 3: don't like having conversations with fools.

676
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then people you know, were interacting with her

677
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: and whatever. I don't like. It's that thing where if

678
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: you want to do that, go do it. Seems like

679
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 2: what she wants because then she retweets the most vile responses,

680
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: so they looks like, look, I'm the real victim here, guys.

681
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 4: All I did was voice my opinion and look.

682
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: At these ignorant ghetto people you know, attacking me, and

683
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: it just gets some more followers and more white people

684
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 2: that are racist and love her as a mouthpiece.

685
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 3: Right.

686
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 4: You know, I just don't have any respect for people

687
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 4: like that.

688
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 3: Either me either.

689
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 2: She says, if Mike o' brown was shot by a

690
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 2: black cop, no one in Ferguson the nationwide would care,

691
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: not Obama holder or sharp than none.

692
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 3: So that's not even a true statement.

693
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like that's the other thing is like some people

694
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: just have a fundamental lack of understanding of why people

695
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:15,719
Speaker 2: are even upset.

696
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 3: Right.

697
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: It's like it's about a white person shot a black person,

698
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: and that was as far as people can think, right.

699
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: And the issue is bigger than that. The issue regardless

700
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 3: of what color he is, somebody unarmed got shot by

701
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 3: a police officer, period, or just by a person don't

702
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 3: even got a police officer. He was unarmed and he

703
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 3: got shot. End of day, his I don't give a

704
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 3: fuck what he did. His life was is worth something.

705
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 3: And when you start having these debates, and when you

706
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 3: start having these points and when you start taking tallies,

707
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, the people that are arguing,

708
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 3: a lot of them don't give a fuck about this

709
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 3: boy or his life, or his family, or how a

710
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 3: whole community is affected or how they're being treated by police.

711
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 3: I seen an article. I didn't read it, but I

712
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 3: seen an article from down Twitter how other cities are like, what,

713
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 3: what how do we prepare of this shit happened in

714
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 3: our city? Instead of saying, how do we go into

715
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: these communities and talk to these people? So instead of

716
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 3: preventing it, we go, oh, well, well something like this

717
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 3: may happen, So how do we police stay? Are police

718
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 3: officers also and you're not fixing issues like that?

719
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 4: Yeah?

720
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: Is Michael Brown shot?

721
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 5: Yes?

722
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: So she basically said if he got shot by a

723
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: black dude, that's not really the thing, because if he

724
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: got a shot by a black officer, it's still more

725
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: of a power thing, and it's still about the worth

726
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: of black life. You know. The other thing is because

727
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: I've noticed this, I think you kind of just did

728
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: it and other people doing it. There is a reason

729
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: to kill an unarmed person, there's a lot. Yeah, cops

730
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: do it before. I've done it before. I just understand

731
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: the situations where, uh, something's happening. This is just not it,

732
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, just the facts that have

733
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: been presented so far, this does not appear to be

734
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 2: that kind of like, it doesn't appear to be that.

735
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: And the thing is maybe ultimately that's what it will

736
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: turn out to be. Will find out that, Yo, this

737
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: dude just didn't have a choice and you had to

738
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: kill this kid. But it won't be It's not people's

739
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 2: fault for assuming that it wasn't that way when the

740
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: police are less than transparent, like when they's like, notice

741
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 2: how there was a person killed and a man killed

742
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 2: in Saint Louis. He's twenty three or something like that.

743
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: They were talking about it on that you know that

744
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: broadcaster for Larry Elder completely disrupted the conversation. If you

745
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: pay attention to that, people aren't as upset because the

746
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,959
Speaker 2: police came out right away, They found witnesses, they corroborated

747
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 2: everything they like, they weren't hundred percent were like this,

748
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: this is what happened. Now, they could be lying, but

749
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 2: their life is sow together and upfront and tight. People

750
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 2: are not as mad. They just want to know, right,

751
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: And that's the thing that people are skipping over in

752
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: this situation. The Ferguson Police Department denied people the decency,

753
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 2: the common humanity of saying this is what happened. They

754
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: went and got the tanks and the camouflage and the

755
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: weapons and stood out there and was like, you know,

756
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 2: I dare y'all motherfuckers to keep saying something to us,

757
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 2: and that is going to incite people to uh, that's

758
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 2: gonna incite people to have issues with the police. Like

759
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: you know, I think there's a common element of empathy

760
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: and humanity that just seems to be listening missing from

761
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 2: a lot of people because they rather score their political

762
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: points and get their Twitter retweets and all this shit.

763
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 2: But it's a common thread, which is, hey, if you

764
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: treat people like humans, they'll react like is because I

765
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: don't know if people understand this. Black people are as

766
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 2: a human as you. So we don't have any like

767
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 2: oh someone got shot, I'm gonna kill the whole neighborhood.

768
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: That's actually not how we work. Like if you actually said,

769
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: this kid got shot, but we took the officer, uh

770
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: you know, in the custody, or we took the officer back,

771
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 2: and we're gonna, you know, find out what happened. We're

772
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: gonna be in contact with the parents where you talked

773
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: to some witnesses.

774
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 3: We've gotten it would have got to this point.

775
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: It would have never got to this point because they

776
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: would have been on top of it, the George Zimmeren thing,

777
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: if they would have just investigated it like a fucking

778
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: like like a killing, you know what I mean, I'm

779
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: not even gonna say a murder, just a shooting. If

780
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: you investigate every shooting, if someone just shoots somebody, Like

781
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: you said, all.

782
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 3: People demand, all people demand is justice in this justice system,

783
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 3: and you are. Justice system has taught us. If a

784
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 3: crime happened, you investigate, You have a suspect, you at

785
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 3: least press charges, bring them in, investigate something. The problem

786
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 3: is is that something happens and there's no investigation, days

787
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 3: go by, there's no nobody knows names. You know, people

788
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: are like, whell are you even gonna bring I think

789
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 3: if it wasn't for like social media, the George Zimmerman

790
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 3: case would have never even been brought up. So it's like,

791
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 3: why do I need to get mad for you to

792
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 3: just do your goddamn job.

793
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: Well, you know what it is though, because people keep

794
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: saying justice for Mike Brown, the simplebob even further, people

795
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: just want to do process. Right, it's not even justice

796
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: because I don't think there's a way that they will

797
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 2: actually be able to prove or that this police officer

798
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: will get in trouble with all. But I don't think

799
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: it's been a second in jail because the entire affair has.

800
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 4: Been conducted on a defensive level.

801
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: That is, it seems like to protect this officer more

802
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: than to get to the truth of what happened. And

803
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: that's why you have such distrust with the police system.

804
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 2: People just won't do process. Bring the man in for questioning,

805
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: you know, bring it before a grand jury, start the

806
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 2: process of saying what happened, at least interview these witnesses.

807
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: These are common things that are not high on the

808
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: bar to ask for, you know.

809
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 6: What I mean.

810
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 4: This would have been two people shooting in the street.

811
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 2: This wouldn't be a hard thing to demand to say, hey,

812
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: you should interview that guy and interview the witnesses. But

813
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: the fact that people are defensive about even that level

814
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: of just common decency, it makes people get on edge.

815
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 3: You know, right. And also the also the problem that

816
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 3: I have for a lot of these people with all

817
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 3: these debates. What was that Bundy dude? It was out

818
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 3: there on his goddamn ranch. Didn't pay his fees. It

819
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: was a termine not to pay his fees, rounded up women,

820
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 3: out en up children, got they gus and was standing

821
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 3: off with the uh, the SWAT teams and ship He's

822
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 3: he was righteous though, right, he stood up right, but

823
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 3: he was wrong.

824
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: Uh, She says Obama. Black people are not children who

825
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: need leaders to tell us how to think. You don't

826
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: call white leaders to tell whites how to think. So

827
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: that's another common mistercession that President Obama and Al Sharpton

828
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: are telling black people how to think. Like like they

829
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 2: show up and we go, hey, you know what, I

830
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: didn't think this was about race at all, but then

831
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 2: Al Sharpton showed up, and now I think it is

832
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: just a complete misunderstanding of the community or misrepresentation.

833
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 4: And I think I.

834
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: Just I just think a lot of this. They say

835
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 2: this stuff because they're not talking.

836
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: To us, right, which is weird to.

837
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 2: See people talking back to her because she's talking to

838
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: white people.

839
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 4: She's not talking to us. We don't pay her bills.

840
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 3: Right, She's not good funk about what you got to think?

841
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 3: So why even interact with her?

842
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's saying this, so the white constituency and conservatives

843
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 2: behind her that deny race and racism is an issue

844
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: at all, are just gonna retweet it and they're gonna

845
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: go see a black person said it. How many white

846
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 2: and black cops get shot by black men each year?

847
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 4: We see no news coverage of those murders.

848
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 2: That that's a lot. Yeah, we just had a guy

849
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: get hired by Fox News for saying, uh, you know,

850
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: you know, like, we just had a dude get hired

851
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: by Fox News because he went on the news, his

852
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 2: local news and was talking about a cop getting murdered

853
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 2: and went and found the widow of the person he

854
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 2: the cop had killed and was like, look at them,

855
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 2: they don't have fathers. This is, like I said, it's

856
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: just another high button issue for people.

857
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 7: Now.

858
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 4: It's not even a like we've.

859
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 2: Reached that stage now, it's full partisanship, full let's argue

860
00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 2: and fight all day and uh yeah, uh, let's see

861
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 2: at Greater Saint Mark Church witnesses, uh say, police came

862
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: to a building today which is being used as an

863
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: age station for protesters. People were saying that the police

864
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 2: were raiding the building and took out took stuff out

865
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 2: like supplies. I don't know if this is even been

866
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 2: confirmed or not. I just know what people said on Twitter.

867
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 2: And at this point, I don't think the bigger media

868
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 2: seems to be have an interesting line because they seem

869
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 2: to be there and want to be involved in these

870
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: stories as much as possible at this point, you know.

871
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: But at the same time, they've the interestinges that have

872
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: died down because last night there wasn't some huge uprising,

873
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 2: A lot less people were out at night, So all

874
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 2: of a sudden, the bigger stations in SNBC, CNN a

875
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 2: lot less.

876
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 4: Live coverage lights.

877
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: You know, they the police didn't come out shooting in

878
00:41:55,719 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: the neighborhoods. I guess, so they're done paying attention. But yeah,

879
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: it says apparently this is the third time it's been raided.

880
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 2: The protest groups usually as a safe space in the

881
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 2: a station, the thing is they on social media, they

882
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: like report the location and say hey, come here, come here,

883
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 2: we got this and we got that. And so now

884
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 2: a lot of those people are like, we got to

885
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: stop talking about.

886
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 3: Where we're at m And the thing is that you

887
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 3: have a lot of those officers without their IDs, without

888
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 3: their badges, you know, just kind of walking enroaming in

889
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 3: those areas. So even if they do something like this,

890
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 3: how the fuck you're gonna identify them.

891
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: So a lot of people said it was this church

892
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: they got raided, but didn't come to find out it

893
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: wasn't the church they got raided. The reporter that we

894
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 2: wrote this article Jeloney, I mean we wrote this shit.

895
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 2: Let me find this name so I can attribute it

896
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: to him. Michelle Dean called the church and they basically

897
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: were like, we're not being rated.

898
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 4: I don't know how that rumor got started.

899
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: It was actually the reporters in Ferguson went to the

900
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: scene apparently discovered that it's the school building next door

901
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 2: to Saint Mark's that was getting raided. Okay, the police

902
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 2: have visited and some organized including a list. A group

903
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: of dream defenders have been using it as a safe

904
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: haven and with Storm supplies there. The historian and The

905
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 2: New Yorker contributor Julani Cobb was on the scene and

906
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 2: explained that police had to visited the building under the

907
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 2: printense that it was violating occupancy laws. Church says it

908
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: was a safe space for organizers. Police say they violated

909
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: housing policy by having people stay overnight. Organizers saying this

910
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: is the third time police will come here. Last night

911
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: they had assault run for assault weapons. Church organizers now

912
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 2: saying nothing was removed from the building. So I guess

913
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: people thought that it was removed, but it wasn't.

914
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 4: I don't know.

915
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 2: Elon James White, friend of the show, posted several video

916
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: interviews on Instagram where organized to say that the police visits have

917
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: actually shut down the organizer's efforts at the building. So people,

918
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: I guess you know, people can't stay there overnight. Police

919
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 2: are coming through, so gotta found so a stay. Organizers

920
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 2: are telling reporters they provided food to shelter and other

921
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: First Days applied supplies, but reports continue to conflict as

922
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 2: to whether or not police actually.

923
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 4: Took anything in the building.

924
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: Another Instagram video from reporter Aaron Haynes Whack shows the

925
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 2: organizers saying the police toixls applies and that people need

926
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: to alleviate the symptoms of tear gas. That people need

927
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 2: to alleviate the symbols of tear gas from their eyes.

928
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, man like at this point, so much so

929
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: many people on the ground. There's a little bit of

930
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: misinformation there. Both of those things can't be true. They

931
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 2: couldn't have took stuff and not took stuff. But yeah,

932
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 2: people on the ground definitely being fucked with. Alabama Police

933
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: Chief rights a blistering open letter to Ferguson, Commander Police

934
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 2: at Alabama. Nothing to do with this fucking thing, but

935
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 2: he's mad about the fact that Ronald S.

936
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 4: Johnson, Big Ron.

937
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 2: Came in, gave out hugs and shit, and so he

938
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: wrote an open letter law law officer dot com. I

939
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 2: have to call you out. I don't care what the

940
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: media says. I expect them to get it wrong, and

941
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 2: they often do. But I expect you, as a veteran

942
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:33,919
Speaker 2: law enforcement commander talking about law enforcement, to get it right. Unfortunately,

943
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 2: you blew it. After days of riding and looting, last Thursday,

944
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 2: you were given command of all law enforcement operations and Ferguson,

945
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 2: my Governor J.

946
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 4: Nixon, Saint Louis County PD was out. You were in.

947
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: You played to the cameras, walked with the protesters and

948
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 2: promise a cond of gender response. You were a media

949
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: dollar and Thursday night things were better, much better. But Friday,

950
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: under significant pressure to do so, the Ferguson Police released

951
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 2: the name of the officer involved in the shooting, the

952
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: Mike Brown. At the same time, Ferguson Police released a

953
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 2: video showing Brown committed a strong, long robbery just ten

954
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: minutes before he was confronted by officer Darren Wilson. Many

955
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: don't like the timing of the release of the video.

956
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: I don't like the timing either. It should have been

957
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 2: released sooner. It should have been released the moment the

958
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: FPD relase realized that Brown was a suspect. Captain Johnson,

959
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 2: Your words during the day on Friday helped the fuel

960
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: the anger that was still turning to just below the surface.

961
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: The Saint Louis County Police were told to remain uninvolved,

962
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 2: and that night the riding and looting began again. For

963
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 2: much too long, it went on mostly unchecked. Retired Saint

964
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: Louis Police Chief Tim Fitch tweeted that your hugger looted

965
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: policy had failed.

966
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 4: Boy did it?

967
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: Boy? And your words contributed to that, to what happened

968
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 2: Friday night and on until the wee hours of Saturday.

969
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: According to Saint Louis Post Dispatch, you said the following

970
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 2: regarding the release of the video. There was no need

971
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 2: to release it, Johnson said, calling the reported theft and

972
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 2: the killing entirely different events. They well, Captain, this veteran

973
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 2: police officer, the fields the need to respond. What you

974
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: said is in commonplace police vernacular bullshit. The fact that

975
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: Brown knew he had just committed a robbery before he

976
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 2: stopped by officer Wilson speaks to Brown's mindset, and Captain,

977
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: the mindset of a person being stopped by police officer

978
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: means everything, and you know it. Let's consider a few examples.

979
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: Nineteen seventy eight, this is after far you got to

980
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 2: go back to find police officers getting fucked up. Officer

981
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: David Lee conducted a vehicle check. He didn't know that

982
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 2: what the sole occupant of the vehicle I recently done.

983
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 4: But the occupant did.

984
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 2: Who was he? Serial killer Ted Buddy Bundy attempted to

985
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 2: disarmed Lead. Lee was able to retain his firearm. And

986
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: eventually took Buddy into custody.

987
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:42,919
Speaker 3: What are we talking about here?

988
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: April nineteen, nineteen ninety five, Straight Trooper Charlie Hagard stopped

989
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 2: the vehicle from mount of traffic violations. He didn't know

990
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 2: that ninety minutes earlier, the traffic violator, Timothy McVeigh, killed

991
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty eight people in the truck ball.

992
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 4: But McVeigh sure knew, didn't he.

993
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 2: Fortunately men's training experience, Hanger was able to take McVeigh

994
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 2: and the custody carrying a concealed firearm. It was days

995
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 2: later before determined if they was responsible for the bombing.

996
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 2: It sounds like they have their training and they didn't

997
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 2: kill these people.

998
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 3: I was like, these people lived the whole oh Okay.

999
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 2: People that killed a lot that killed people, not strong

1000
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: arm robberies with no weapons. It made thirty first two

1001
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: thousand and three. Then Rookie police, the North Carolina Police

1002
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: officer Jeff Posteal the rest of the man digging in

1003
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 2: the trash bed at a grocery store and in fraction

1004
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 2: that that would rise to about the level Jwalkin. Postell

1005
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: didn't know that he had captured Eric Rudolph, the man

1006
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 2: whom years earlier had killed and injured numerous people with bombs.

1007
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 4: That was on the FBI top ten Wanner the list.

1008
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: So now let's consider Ferguson officer Darren Wilson stopping Michael Brown.

1009
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: Apparently Wilson didn't know Brown had just committed strong R robbery,

1010
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 2: but Brown did, and that captain is huge. Allegedly, Brown

1011
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,959
Speaker 2: pushed Wilson and attempted to take Wilson's gun. We're also

1012
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 2: being told that the officer Wilson had facial injury severed

1013
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 2: during their tep by Brown to disarm him. Let's assume

1014
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: for a moment those alleged facts by Brown actually occurred.

1015
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 4: Well, that's kind of a big assumption.

1016
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 2: Though, Right would Brown have responded violently to an officer

1017
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 2: in front of him about Jaywalkin? Maybe probably not. Well,

1018
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: even in their estimation of the events, he told him

1019
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: to get out the street, drove past from stopped and

1020
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: backed up, like even even the police officer said that.

1021
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: So you know, at some point the things escalated here

1022
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 2: that weren't just from It wasn't like Michael Brown just

1023
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 2: turned around and started punching the dude, no matter how

1024
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 2: it happened, Right, is it more likely that he would

1025
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 2: attack an officer believing he was about to be taking

1026
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 2: in the custody for failing strong robbery. Absolutely, Officer Wilson

1027
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 2: survived to encountered with Brown as the lead hangar and postel.

1028
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 2: Michael Brown didn't survive, and it's too soon to say

1029
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 2: Officer Wilson's use of daily forces justified and legal. You

1030
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 2: and I no, not all officers survived such confrontations. Officers

1031
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: die incidents like this. Captain Johnson and coun a couple

1032
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 2: I remember from your own organization.

1033
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 3: Right, But if any citizen kills the police officer, they're

1034
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 3: mastered immediately. We ain't, but we're not gonna talk about it.

1035
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 3: You're not gonna let this person walk free. They're not

1036
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 3: gonna get paid administrative leave or absence.

1037
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 2: And with the way that things are being conducted, you

1038
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 2: would think that, uh, the autopsy of Michael Brown would

1039
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: have revealed something on his hands from hitting somebody.

1040
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 10: Uh.

1041
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,919
Speaker 2: You would also think that the way that they if

1042
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: the Ferguson Police Department has released this stuff, that they

1043
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 2: would actually ever release the damage to the dude's face

1044
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: because they've kind of tried to taint the image of

1045
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 2: Michael Brown the whole time. Why not if this happened,

1046
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 2: why not why not just be forthcoming with this if

1047
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 2: this is what happened, because they could have done They

1048
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: could have if this is true and they knew all

1049
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: this on day one, they could have just came out

1050
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 2: and said, this is what happened.

1051
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, he took him in custody, took khotos, you know,

1052
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 3: for your evidence and all this type of thing stuff. Yeah.

1053
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 2: April fifteen, nineteen eighty five, Missouri Trooper Jimmy Lindeger was

1054
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 2: shot and killed by white supremacist He and his partner

1055
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 2: stopped at a checkpoint. Neither Trooper Lineger nor his partner

1056
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: World where the man had been just had stopped. Had

1057
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 2: been indicted by federal grand jury for involvement in the

1058
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 2: Neo Nazi group accues of murder suspect immediates at the

1059
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 2: VIC the open fire with an automatic weapon. Just a

1060
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 2: month before, Missouri Trooper James M. Filmsdorff was shot and

1061
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 2: killed with his own gun. I had to make it

1062
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 2: the traffic stop. Then the trooper stop made the stop.

1063
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 2: He didn't know the driver was waned on four warners

1064
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 2: out in Texas, but again the suspect knew it, So Captain.

1065
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 3: This whole letter is just stupid because you're bringing up

1066
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 3: all these examples, people that live, people that survived, you know, died.

1067
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 3: Oh now he on the died part. But yes, but

1068
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 3: before officers that actually survived the altercation. You know, the

1069
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 3: people were convicted. You know something with Ford and I

1070
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 3: don't know. When people get to this, it's like it's

1071
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 3: it's the same thing with you, black chik. You're not

1072
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 3: talking about the issue at hand, talking about everything else,

1073
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 3: And it don't matter to me at the end of

1074
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 3: the day.

1075
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 2: Gotta be two sides, man.

1076
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 3: No, it don't in my mind, but I know, you know,

1077
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 3: everybody else says it got to be too sad. Sometimes

1078
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 3: it's not goddamn two sides. Sometimes it's injustice is done

1079
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 3: to somebody, period. I don't care about your side. I

1080
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 3: don't care about your opinion. I don't care about what

1081
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 3: the fuck he had on I don't care about what

1082
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 3: he did two seconds before. I just don't give a fuck.

1083
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 3: Somebody's dead. I wouldn't care what color the person is.

1084
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 3: Somebody died and the family deserves the right to know

1085
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 3: what happened, period, Like what's what's the new side of that.

1086
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, I think that's where so much of the

1087
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 2: disconnect is happening. I like I And maybe it's not

1088
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 2: a popular opinion. I don't know. I've not really gotten

1089
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 2: to this stage because we're still on stage one as

1090
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned, But I just care about what happened.

1091
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 2: I actually don't care if Michael Brown was innocent or not.

1092
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 2: I don't care if the shooting was.

1093
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,720
Speaker 4: Justified or not. I just care about what happened.

1094
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 2: If these facts lead to oh well, there's really no

1095
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: other way to view this.

1096
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 4: This is just fire homicide.

1097
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: There's nothing left to say in my opinion other than

1098
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 2: you know, but now that things have been mishandled to

1099
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: such a high level, how can people, you.

1100
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 4: Know, not understand the rage? How can people not understand

1101
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 4: why people are mad?

1102
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 3: You know, I would have been upset no matter who

1103
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 3: this was, no matter who it was. You know, people

1104
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 3: act like people No.

1105
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 2: You know what, that's not true. That's not true. We're

1106
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 2: upset because it fits a pattern that has happened to

1107
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 2: black people. That's why it's not if this would have

1108
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 2: been like an Asian kid or something, people would have

1109
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 2: been like that's fucked up and weird. But the fact

1110
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,760
Speaker 2: that we know not to even expect some due.

1111
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 3: Process because that does it does. We would have assumed

1112
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 3: due process, so we would have been like, okay, but

1113
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 3: when you go, this happened, this is not being handled correctly. Yes,

1114
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 3: I'm very upset because I feel.

1115
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 2: Like if this happened to a Latino community or something,

1116
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 2: I would be like, I would not be as upset

1117
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 2: like I'm not like because the history is different, you

1118
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I would be like, that's fucked up.

1119
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 2: It's not like I would be like, well, it's okay,

1120
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 2: then don't worry about it. But I wouldn't be.

1121
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:53,919
Speaker 4: But I would.

1122
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 2: I tell you what I wouldn't be if if this

1123
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 2: had happened in any mixed the races however you want.

1124
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 2: What I wouldn't be going is like, keep every circumstance

1125
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 2: the same, except mix mix up the races.

1126
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 4: However you want.

1127
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be going.

1128
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I don't get why those people are mad.

1129
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: I didn't. I wouldn't be going. Well, that kid was

1130
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 2: on weed, so it must have been something. No, because

1131
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 2: I don't feel like like I wouldn't be doing that.

1132
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be going around like, well, clearly he was

1133
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 2: charging towards the officer and that's why he had to

1134
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 2: get killed. Because I don't know, and the police are

1135
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 2: acting shady.

1136
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 3: Right, and I understand people getting mad about that.

1137
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 4: Well, one size is acting shady.

1138
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 2: It's pretty fucking easy to be like, yeah, that's the

1139
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 2: side I don't trust, and one is acting shady. Now

1140
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 2: you can choose to trust the shady side if you

1141
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,439
Speaker 2: want to. I just know who's acting shady. You got

1142
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 2: witnesses that are actually incriminating themselves to be like, this

1143
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 2: is what I saw happen. Meanwhile, you know police won't

1144
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 2: even fucking comment on the shit for eleven days.

1145
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 4: But you know you don't understand why people are mad.

1146
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 2: That's on you, man, You don't want to understand, right,

1147
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, this dude wrote that letter to Captain Johnson,

1148
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 2: basically trying to be friends with the protesters. Egypt urges

1149
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 2: the US to show restraint in Ferguson.

1150
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,280
Speaker 3: Not that's saying something, Yep, the.

1151
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 2: Home of airpspring.

1152
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 4: Yep.

1153
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 2: Their government caught out US authorities and said they need

1154
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 2: to show restraint against Ferguson, Missouri.

1155
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, Egypt is known for a lot of issues

1156
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 3: they have over there.

1157
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 2: Well, it gets back at what Barack said about them

1158
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 2: right in thirteen when they were cracking down on protesters.

1159
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 3: Right, people remember that, Like I said, for some reason,

1160
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 3: Americans want to stand on their houses and want to

1161
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 3: be the police for all the of the world. But

1162
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 3: yet you won't set an example here in your own country,

1163
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 3: and people looking, and people are watching.

1164
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 2: And Jason Riley, who we talked about at the beginning

1165
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 2: of this, uh you right for the Wall Street Journals

1166
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 2: or on the editorial board. Uh he basically said that

1167
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 2: General Holder needs to get to Ferguson and tell the

1168
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 2: protests to pull their pants up.

1169
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 3: Fuck you one hundred.

1170
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1171
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 2: So all right, man, Well, I guess we'll cover more

1172
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 2: shit from Ferguson as long as it keeps happening. But

1173
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 2: I'm kind of glad that it's kind of dying down,

1174
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 2: because you know, it's a lot, and it's definitely mentally

1175
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 2: draining that you think about this ship and our people

1176
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 2: are so disconnected and a leave from it.

1177
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 4: In that house, some people are just so upset and

1178
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 4: over it and really into it.

1179
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 3: So it's like you it's like you almost get too extremes.

1180
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 3: You get the people that care to the point that

1181
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 3: it is almost insanity, and then you got the people

1182
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 3: that don't give a fuck to where it's almost no

1183
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 3: impathy in so you're like, okay, y'all, y'all are not

1184
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 3: making any you know, both sides are just very extreme

1185
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 3: and the average person is in the middle, you know.

1186
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 3: And it's just one of those things where you look

1187
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 3: at it and like I said yesterday, I can't engulf

1188
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 3: myself with it all the time. I don't you know,

1189
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 3: a lot of people talk about it at work and

1190
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 3: things like that. That's a conversation I do not engage in.

1191
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 3: I do not talk about I do not bring up

1192
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 3: because I gotta work with you. And it's just one

1193
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 3: of those things where you work with and you work

1194
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 3: with and you interact with a lot of people that

1195
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 3: you think cool, but once they start expressing their opinions

1196
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 3: about shit like this, you stop viewing them very differently,

1197
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 3: and they'll stop viewing you very differently. So because we

1198
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 3: got to work together in long haul, I don't talk about.

1199
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 2: That, uh NIGGI Minad release her and a kind of

1200
00:58:54,680 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 2: video yesterday and it was everything, not everything everything. This

1201
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 2: is the first music video I watched from front to

1202
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 2: back a long time.

1203
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 4: The song is terrible, but I don't feel like that

1204
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 4: song it's terrible.

1205
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 2: I don't really feel like that's a you know, a

1206
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 2: knock against anything else she's ever done. All her songs

1207
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 2: are terrible.

1208
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 4: But she was twerking and ship and her ass was

1209
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:21,959
Speaker 4: moving real good.

1210
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 2: Uh, you know she had to fake cheeks going so, uh,

1211
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 2: you know, props to her the song. I mean, what

1212
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 2: was the point of playing it? They can't it's an

1213
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 2: audio podcast. They can't here. I mean, you want to

1214
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 2: hear the song is the worst part of it. The

1215
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 2: video is out there, guys, go fucking watch it.

1216
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 3: The worst part of it.

1217
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 4: I don't know what else to tell you.

1218
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 3: Oh, this is that one where Drake, well.

1219
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's gifts of it everywhere she was. She did

1220
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 2: a lap dance on Drake. It was awesome.

1221
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 3: Uh.

1222
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 2: Farah Abraham's uh stripping research. It's just made her five

1223
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars. And this is who the girl who

1224
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 2: did Team Mom and she did the porn backdoor Team

1225
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 2: Mom where she got fucked in the ass on camera. Yeah,

1226
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 2: so she's making it work for her, Karen, She's here

1227
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 2: getting paid.

1228
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 4: Five hundred k.

1229
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 3: Oh she told her to do her money.

1230
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, why wouldn't she be I guess I

1231
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 2: don't know. I just want to know where her baby at.

1232
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 2: Is it like with Drea's baby, because.

1233
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 3: Somewhere, who's off in the distance somewhere.

1234
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 2: She started working at Austin, Texas strip club as research

1235
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 2: for some unannounced book or movie she may participated at

1236
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 2: some point in the theoretical future, just like Jennifer Anderson. Well,

1237
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 2: it's apparently not just research anymore. Both Ferrer and the

1238
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 2: club report she signed a six figure contract as a

1239
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: celebrity dancer. I just think it's funny because these people

1240
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 2: kind of and I talked about this with Sarah J

1241
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 2: when I interviewed her, they kind of disrespect the sex

1242
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 2: work industry by pretending to not be sex working, Like,

1243
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:14,479
Speaker 2: I'm just doing it for research. So what is your research? Well,

1244
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 2: I go to the strip club, strip, I grind on

1245
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 2: these men, and then I take money. So you're a stripper. No, No,

1246
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 2: it's for research. But isn't that stripping? I mean, what

1247
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 2: did you research? Well? No, no, no, no, just like I did

1248
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 2: my porn for my novel that I wrote that was

1249
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 2: a research. Oh so you like went to a to

1250
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 2: a porn set and watched people have sex. No, no, no,

1251
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 2: I got fucked in ass on camera by James Dean twice.

1252
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 2: That's that's not research. You did that. Well, I'm not

1253
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 2: a porn star or performer or anything.

1254
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 4: I don't get paid for sex.

1255
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,919
Speaker 2: I mean I got paid for the video I sold

1256
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 2: it to Vivid, but I don't get paid for sex.

1257
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 4: What I do is I use it to write my books.

1258
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 2: You like you you born right? You know what what

1259
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 2: are we talking about here? Why you ashamed of it?

1260
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 2: At this point, you've done worse for money in teams.

1261
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 3: Yes, And it's just one of those things where I

1262
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 3: agree with her. You know, you work in the sex industry.

1263
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 3: Instead of talking about the industry and bringing light and

1264
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 3: talking about the the the sex workers' rights and you know, conditions,

1265
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 3: working conditions and things like that, it's like, I'll do it,

1266
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 3: but I don't do it full time. You know, it's

1267
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 3: like a part time type of thing. When you're like,

1268
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 3: but you did do it, and you did get paid,

1269
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 3: but you really don't want to be quote unquote one

1270
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 3: of them when they're not ashamed about what they're doing

1271
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 3: but you're completely ashamed about it. But because you quote

1272
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 3: unquote play being ashamed, you constantly get a camera in

1273
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 3: your face.

1274
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 4: Yep.

1275
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 2: I hired a fair as a waitress about a month ago.

1276
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 2: Then we talked about it. She decided to switch to

1277
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 2: dazz and then we talked again and came to agreement

1278
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 2: for six figures. We're really happy and excited. So if

1279
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 2: she's researching what it's like to be a stripper, this

1280
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 2: isn't it. You don't get paid five hundred and forty

1281
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 2: four thousand dollars a strip.

1282
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 3: Right because there's a lot of strippers not making money

1283
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 3: like that.

1284
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 2: Yeah you're not, Yeah, like you're not really having a

1285
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 2: typical stripper experience.

1286
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 3: No, you are not, honey.

1287
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,439
Speaker 2: Yep. They can pay up to twenty five hundred dollars

1288
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 2: for an hour long dance for the former team mom

1289
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 2: or five hundred dollars.

1290
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 4: For ten minutes. Who are these dudes that are gonna

1291
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 4: pay that?

1292
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 3: That's my question.

1293
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's gonna be crazy, man.

1294
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's yeah, Like I said, she she not all

1295
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 3: of that to my personal preference and taste. No, not

1296
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 3: paying that money for that.

1297
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, she lied about saying she rumor said that

1298
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 2: she had a one point five million dollar pay day

1299
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 2: for backdoor Team Mom, which was so the Vivid, but

1300
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 2: Vivid said they actually paid her six figure check and

1301
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 2: royalty is on back end, no pun or sixty thousand

1302
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 2: a month, so that's really good.

1303
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 4: Oh she about to make more than a yeah, yeah

1304
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 4: start off.

1305
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, she is right and hiding from what you truly are.

1306
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 7: Yeap.

1307
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 2: Macy's agreed to a six hundred and fifty thousand dollars

1308
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 2: settlement UH to settle for racial profiling.

1309
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 3: The racism not exists though.

1310
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 4: Yep, which I came after the settlement for Barney's.

1311
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 2: Last week, right, so it sounds like, you know, maybe

1312
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 2: black people weren't making all this.

1313
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 3: Shit up because people paying for this fake racism.

1314
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 4: Yep.

1315
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 3: A lot of real money, a lot of real money

1316
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 3: right for fake criticism.

1317
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

1318
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 2: Gun Control Group Mom's Demand Action asked crog is asking

1319
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 2: Kroger to band guns in their stores because this is

1320
01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 2: the new UH open carry play, like the new open

1321
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 2: carry demonstration.

1322
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 4: People they want to like use Kroger as the next Crown.

1323
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 2: You know, they did it at Target, they did it

1324
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 2: all every time they do this, the guns end up

1325
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 2: getting banned, right, you.

1326
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 3: Will do better off just not doing anything that the

1327
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 3: stores could give a fuck, but you can't draw attention

1328
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 3: and to be like, will they brand us too? Fuck? Yes,

1329
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 3: everybody don't want guns around them While I'm looking at

1330
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 3: do I want the beef tend a loon or the

1331
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 3: pork tend a lawn?

1332
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 2: So yep, they've been going to Kroger's. Man, as long

1333
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 2: as these people don't go to hairs Tea, I guess I'm.

1334
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 3: Okay, But yeah, lead has lead the tea alone.

1335
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kroger open carry Coroger is dangerous enough as is right.

1336
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 3: What's next, bigger wiggily.

1337
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, uh, Let's see what else did I want

1338
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 2: to talk about? Where's there's another article? I thought it

1339
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 2: was crazy? You know, war Machine is a dude that

1340
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 2: uh yeah, and apparently there was Oh yeah, he used

1341
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 2: to day a different porn star.

1342
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 6: Right.

1343
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 2: It's funny because Auror Snow apparently wrote this article on

1344
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 2: she's a former porn star too. But the porn party

1345
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 2: where war Machine went ballistic ballistic before it's vicious assault

1346
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 2: of ex girlfriend Christy Mack, the MMA fighter sent three

1347
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 2: people to the hospital when he went ballistic at a party.

1348
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 2: According to the party's host, former porn star brook Haven,

1349
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 2: I believe I was gonna die, said Christy Mack.

1350
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 4: He has beaten me many times before, but never this badly.

1351
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 2: The twenty three year old porn star known for her

1352
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 2: distinctive mohawk, tweeted on August eleventh that her boyfriend John

1353
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 2: Coppen have her entered her Las Vegas home unannounced in

1354
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 2: the early hours of August eight and beat her to

1355
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 2: within a inch of her life. The tweet was accompanyed

1356
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 2: by photos of her bruising batter body in the hospital bed,

1357
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 2: reporting reportedly after suffering eighteen broken balls, a fractured rear,

1358
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 2: of ruptured livery broken nose, multiple stab wounds, and several

1359
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 2: missing the broken teeth. Matt claims that the assault was

1360
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 2: carried out by Copper Haver thirty two, was struggling mma

1361
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 2: fighter and sometime poor an actor who changed his name

1362
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 2: the war Machine back in two thousand and eight. Coppa

1363
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 2: Has's history of violence is well documented, including misdemeanors saut

1364
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 2: charges in twenty seven and two thousand and seven two

1365
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 2: thousand and eight, as well as in two year prison stead.

1366
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:28,479
Speaker 4: On a feeling assault charge.

1367
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 2: In twenty ten, after they attacked the female bartender from

1368
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 2: San Diego by sweeping bottles off the bar at her

1369
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 2: and punched a bowser. A few hours after the alleged

1370
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 2: saw on mac took place, Kypa Hav tweeted that she

1371
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 2: was his property and always will be. On August fifteenth,

1372
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 2: the US Marshalls track down Cappa have Her, who was

1373
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 2: a fugitive at large had extended Stay America Hotel in

1374
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 2: Semi Valley, California, and arrested the pugilists on suspicion of

1375
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 2: domestic battery, lewdness, strangulation, of saw coercion.

1376
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 4: According to Semi Valley Police Department.

1377
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 2: Back in two thousand and nine, retired porn star Brook

1378
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 2: Haveven hosted a birthday party. They quickly turned into a

1379
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 2: nightmare when copp and Hav allegedly lost his mind, slapping

1380
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 2: his then girlfriend and sending several innocent bystanders who leaked

1381
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 2: to her defence to the hospital with serious injuries.

1382
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 4: In the interview that this, it says.

1383
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're aware of what's been going on, Christy

1384
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 2: Mackney and saw allegations. What was your reaction when you

1385
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 2: first heard the news? I wasn't surprised. I knew what

1386
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 2: was gonna happen. It's not the first time he beating

1387
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 2: her up as she stayed. She chose to stay. It's

1388
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 2: never right for any man to lay a hand on

1389
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 2: a woman. But I thought it was gonna happen, and

1390
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 2: it did. And did you know it was gonna happen

1391
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 2: because a woman she's outburstus your birthday party in two

1392
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 2: thousand and nine, what happened exactly. We were all of

1393
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 2: my birthday party. He was there with a girlfriend of his.

1394
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 2: He actually showed up to my birthday party early and

1395
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 2: was blowing up balloons and everything was fine. The next

1396
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 2: thing I know, he was doing some drugs. Oh YadA,

1397
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 2: YadA YadA, and his girlfriend was talking to a friend

1398
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 2: of mine and war Machine walked up and slapped her.

1399
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 4: Then it all escalated from there.

1400
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 2: Some guys at the party went over and said, hey, man,

1401
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 2: don't do that, and he just lost it. I was

1402
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 2: in front of him trying to talk him out of it,

1403
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 2: but he just looked at me with the blank stare

1404
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 2: on his face, and it was like I was talking

1405
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 2: to a wall. It was almost to me like.

1406
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 4: He blacked out.

1407
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 2: It was like he didn't even know what he was

1408
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 2: doing and went on a ram page. Did he just

1409
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 2: start attacking people? Yes, he was just taking on anyone,

1410
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 2: people that weren't even approaching him when he hit Alec Knight.

1411
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 2: Alec Knight was just standing there with a drink in

1412
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 2: his hand, smoking a cigarette, and war Machine just went

1413
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 2: over and punched him in the face, knocking him out cold.

1414
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 2: He ended up getting a bunch of stables in his head.

1415
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:48,719
Speaker 3: Oh shit. He was like, anybody want song?

1416
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 6: Now?

1417
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 2: What were you doing when that happened? Were you personally

1418
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 2: involved or were you trying to get out of the situation. Well,

1419
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 2: according to war Machine, I was more involved than I

1420
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,080
Speaker 2: actually was, because he's done interviews and said I was

1421
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 2: punching him in his face, and I definitely was not laught.

1422
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 2: I was actually there and I was in front of

1423
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 2: Warman shee, and I was like, don't do this, don't

1424
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 2: rule My party just settled down.

1425
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 4: Keep in mind he also tried.

1426
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 2: To say Christy Mack and her guess like beat him

1427
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 2: up and all this shitan while he's sitting them both

1428
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 2: to the hospital, right, and he seemed to be unbruised.

1429
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 2: Like I said, he wasn't talking back. He didn't try

1430
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 2: to hit me. It was just like talking to a

1431
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 2: blank wall. He just started hitting people left and right,

1432
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 2: and he never hit me. He never hit you, even

1433
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 2: though you standing in front of him. Correct, he was

1434
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 2: only hitting men or men and women. No, he only

1435
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 2: hit men at the party, other than his girlfriend, who

1436
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 2: he slapped in the face. But he didn't punch her.

1437
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:44,480
Speaker 2: He just slapped across the face, which is of course unnecessary.

1438
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 2: Shit never happened. He didn't go after any other girls

1439
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 2: at the party at all. See you like you think

1440
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 2: he just snapped, She says, its hard to tell my

1441
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 2: mental issues be a boy polar or something.

1442
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, sound like he has a lot of issues.

1443
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 4: Some people think it's jeroids.

1444
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 2: She said. It was definitely scary, ruined the party. She

1445
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 2: asked that you know, how well do you know war

1446
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 2: Machine at this point? Not very well. He we just

1447
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 2: done the scene together, I think the day before the party,

1448
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 2: and that's how he got the invite to my party

1449
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 2: after working together, because he just got into porn. So

1450
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 2: how did you deal with him after the party? After

1451
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 2: they endit? I avoided him like the plague, blocked him

1452
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 2: on Twitter, blocked him on my phone. I didn't speak

1453
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 2: to him. I avoided him until this day. I have

1454
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 2: not seen him in person since then, and I'm fine with.

1455
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 3: That, I know it.

1456
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 2: So she didn't know he didn't have a reputation for

1457
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 2: being violent before a party. From her understanding, she knew

1458
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 2: he got in trouble because he was the rest in

1459
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:39,799
Speaker 2: San Diego.

1460
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 4: I know.

1461
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 2: They ended up putting a spit bag on his head

1462
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 2: because he was getting really violent and spitting.

1463
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 4: That's when people spit.

1464
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 2: On the police, so they put something on your face

1465
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 2: so you can't spit on him. Ah, So he did

1466
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 2: a little bit of jail time. How did it affect

1467
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 2: his porn career? From what I remember reading, people were

1468
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 2: willing to hire him still, because you know how our

1469
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 2: industry is. People want to make money and they don't

1470
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 2: care about the morals. Half of like, we'll never hire

1471
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 2: a war machine. The other half we like, of course,

1472
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 2: we'll still hire them if he wants to shoot for us.

1473
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 2: Uh So yeah, wolf Machine apparently went on the war path.

1474
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,919
Speaker 3: Yes, won't.

1475
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 2: Out but yeah, we at eight thirty a half to

1476
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 2: go because I have to be on five started podcast tonight,

1477
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 2: so let me get to our games.

1478
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 4: Guys, fucking with black people pick a number.

1479
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 3: Care Oh why are we picking the number? We've already

1480
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 3: went through that at the beginning of the show.

1481
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 4: All right, so we played fucking with black people enough.

1482
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 3: Today, guys, play the music.

1483
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,679
Speaker 2: Let's just go to uh yeah, let me just play

1484
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 2: the music for everybody so you can at least say

1485
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 2: you got it Ferguson.

1486
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:54,520
Speaker 3: All right, right, that's all.

1487
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 4: Now let's play our other game, which is Guess the Race.

1488
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,799
Speaker 2: That's time for some guests the race.

1489
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 3: That's right, this guest the race time.

1490
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 2: Now, that is time for some guests the race.

1491
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:10,679
Speaker 3: That's right, this guest.

1492
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 2: Star race time.

1493
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:12,839
Speaker 3: Whatever.

1494
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:16,719
Speaker 2: That's right. It's time for Guess the Race, the number

1495
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 2: one game show going across all the podcasts land where

1496
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 2: we read or play news articles from all over the globe

1497
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 2: and we ask our contestants today the racist ass chat

1498
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 2: room two guests the race? All right, racist, I hope

1499
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 2: you got your racist hats on. Never leave home without

1500
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 2: him as soon. Let's see how.

1501
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 4: About this one? Uh of course.

1502
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 2: Florida police arrested the Saint Petersburg man last week, who

1503
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 2: they say beat another man unconscious with a babie gun. Oh,

1504
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 2: then believe in the man to be dead, asked his

1505
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 2: girlfriend to help him bury the body.

1506
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 4: Oh oh my, is this the video of.

1507
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 11: It from an unlikely hero?

1508
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 2: Parents say, oh no, this is what police say. Nicholas M.

1509
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 2: Harris twenty planned to kill the man Monday. He hit

1510
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 2: the victim in the head with a metal b B gun,

1511
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 2: repeatedly broke his nose and rid of him unconscious. Harris

1512
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 2: thought he killed the man, so he placed him in

1513
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 2: the car, drove him on and drove home. A witness

1514
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 2: at Harris's girlfriend watched as he dragged the victim inside.

1515
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 2: According to police, Harris asked his girlfriend to help bury

1516
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 2: the body. When she refused, he threatened to kill her

1517
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,679
Speaker 2: and the other witness with a knife. After a few hours,

1518
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 2: the victim woke. Harris's mother and brother drove them into

1519
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 2: the hospital, where doctors treated his broken nose, which also

1520
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 2: requires stitches. Harris was taken to the Panals County Jail

1521
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,679
Speaker 2: and held on two hundred and sixty thousand dollars bail.

1522
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 2: He was charged the first degree attenthed murder and multiple

1523
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 2: kinds of battery, assault, offse imprisonment, possession of a firearm,

1524
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 2: and burglary.

1525
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 4: Guess the race of mister Nicholas M.

1526
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 2: Harris. Let's check the chapter and see what they believe

1527
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 2: his white privilege caused him to forget to double tap.

1528
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 2: He isn't a cop?

1529
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 7: White?

1530
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 2: Oh why isn't he a cop? I'm sorry, we we

1531
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 2: know black people with BB guns get shot.

1532
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 4: White.

1533
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 2: That's some humans. White. Simon Phoenix from demolition Man, Wesley

1534
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 2: Snike's black. The correct answer is white, and somebody missed it. So, uh,

1535
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 2: he was not signed Phoenix from Demolition Man.

1536
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 4: But yeah, he was a white man.

1537
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm never shout out to his.

1538
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 4: Girlfriend or having a presence of mind to be like no.

1539
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 3: Right, So it's like you're gonna have to take us out,

1540
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 3: and we well know because this is one thing you do,

1541
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 3: some shit like that. Y'all going to jail too?

1542
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, help me bird his body. We need to talk,

1543
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 4: we need.

1544
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 3: Right, We need to I don't need to be with

1545
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 3: you no more.

1546
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 4: I think we should break up. We should see other people.

1547
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 2: All right. Here's the second one.

1548
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 5: This is doing.

1549
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 11: Police in Saint Pete just tell us that they have

1550
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 11: a they've arrested amount accused of sneaking into.

1551
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 3: A twelve year old girl's bedroom.

1552
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:26,640
Speaker 11: Investigators say Edward Williams arranged for the girl to let

1553
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 11: him in through her bedroom window. On August seventh, the

1554
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 11: child's grandmother found Williams in her bed. He jumped out

1555
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,679
Speaker 11: of the window, naked and ran off. His arrested Williams

1556
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 11: last night. He is now charged with loot and lascivious battery.

1557
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 2: That was short, so I guess the race guys of

1558
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 2: forget his name a race, mister william naked man, naked

1559
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:52,679
Speaker 2: in the bed with a twelve year old.

1560
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 4: I'm glad that was fast, though.

1561
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 2: Because we can just get right to the guesses. I

1562
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 2: don't think people were prepared for how fast one either,

1563
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 2: you know, naked in the bed with a twelve year old.

1564
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, jumped out the window.

1565
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 2: Fast twitch muscles saved his life. Black says eight c.

1566
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 2: Everybody else not fast enough. I believe he could fly,

1567
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 2: Black climbing in your window, snatching your people up? People

1568
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 2: still will He believed he could fly even though his

1569
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:26,839
Speaker 2: mind was telling him no, black. Oh Lord, the correct

1570
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 2: answer is black. I don't know how you guys all

1571
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 2: got that one, but that was good job, everybody.

1572
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 4: Let's see, let's go to the bonus round. What's my

1573
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 4: bonus round?

1574
01:17:46,560 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 2: Music? Double to po and the race. Race's right, guys,

1575
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 2: double the points, double the racism. Guess the race, bonus round.

1576
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 2: Let's see who still got what it takes and who

1577
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 2: get to take what it's got?

1578
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 4: All right? Boca Retire On Florida, Oh, Florida.

1579
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 12: Woman was found sleeping in her car on the second

1580
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 12: floor of a Boca Town Center parking garage. Police say

1581
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 12: she refused to identify herself. Then Susanne Morales, who was

1582
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 12: wearing nothing but lingerie at the time, tried running over

1583
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:32,759
Speaker 12: the officer with her car. She's charged with aggravated assault

1584
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,719
Speaker 12: and resisting rest for the Sun Sentinel tell him about

1585
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 12: sure man.

1586
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 2: These reports are the fastest news reports I've ever seen.

1587
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 3: That was like, we ain't got all time to fucking

1588
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 3: around music, We ain't got no time to know. This

1589
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 3: is what happened.

1590
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 2: And she was sleeping in a car where only Langerie

1591
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 2: woke up, tried to run over only Oh Susanne Morales. Uh,

1592
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 2: I guess I guess the race, everybody if I can

1593
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 2: find her picture, but I guess the race. Chat room

1594
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 2: Jaquita Banana refuse the I d White tried to run

1595
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 2: over a cop still live, White appearing Latina. She was

1596
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 2: arrested and not killed?

1597
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 4: White?

1598
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 2: Can I just get her picture? Please?

1599
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 4: Come on?

1600
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 3: What are you doing?

1601
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 6: But uh?

1602
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the correct answer is, let me just see

1603
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 2: if I can find a picture. Uh, let me see

1604
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 2: there's anyone, guesses? Headed back to the border Latina, Genevieve

1605
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 2: jo Lee. Uh, she was arrested and not killed. White

1606
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 2: tried to run over okay. Uh Surprisingly she was the

1607
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 2: only person in the car not full of her her

1608
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 2: can at her cans can Latina. Oh my, Uh, the

1609
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 2: correct answer is, Karen, what would you say? White? So

1610
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 2: a lot of you missed it. I had a couple

1611
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 2: of you got it. Oh yeah, she's definitely. Let me

1612
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 2: put it in chat room. So y'all can all be

1613
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:18,759
Speaker 2: upset together?

1614
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 3: Right? I wonder why your racism is off?

1615
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 2: Remember when it's a woman she could have married into

1616
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 2: a Latino family. You guys don't know, never want us soon.

1617
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 2: But the boldness man waking up in lingeride or run

1618
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 2: over the cops like that, that's that's bold. So like

1619
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:41,799
Speaker 2: if I woke up in a parking lote of my drawers,

1620
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 2: last thing I'm thinking is running over the cops. That's

1621
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 2: the truth. All right, let's uh, do one more. A

1622
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 2: nineteen year old got arrested today. Okay, she is in

1623
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 2: Virginia because her kids told the cops on her. Ohm hm,

1624
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 2: kids decided fuck you. A Virginia woman called nine one

1625
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 2: one to claim a pot dealer robbed her at gunpoint.

1626
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 2: Oh wait, no, this is a different story. Uh yeah,

1627
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 2: to claim a cot dealer robbed her at gunpoint. So, uh,

1628
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 2: she's nineteen year old Amanda Page Twame. She called police

1629
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 2: around five ten pm Sunday told him she was robbed

1630
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 2: after making arrangement to buy pot. The police said, do

1631
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 2: you know that that's legal?

1632
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 7: Or you know what?

1633
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 2: Right there?

1634
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 3: Right investigated, They didn't tell her the talk. They was like,

1635
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 3: you know what, we got a hot one, go get her.

1636
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 2: Twamme claimed that she had met with twenty year old

1637
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 2: Jackson Chrisler. He pulled out a gun and demanded her money.

1638
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 2: She said that she complied and he left without giving

1639
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 2: her the marijuana. However, detectives say that during the investigation

1640
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:57,719
Speaker 2: had followed, they discovered that twam voluntarily gave Chrystaler money

1641
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 2: to buy marijuana from another person. They say Christly instead

1642
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 2: kept the money without giving Twalley the plot. So he

1643
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 2: was like, oh, hey, give me twenty dollars buy some weeds.

1644
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 2: Like he go, fuck you, I'm like, bols no weed night.

1645
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 3: She was like, well fuck you, I'm calling the cops.

1646
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 4: She didn't see the druge.

1647
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 2: She called the pops.

1648
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:17,640
Speaker 3: Because guess what, that's what they teacher, you get robbeds.

1649
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,799
Speaker 2: So they both got They both went to jail. Yes

1650
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 2: it is uh. Toyomy got charged with fouling the false

1651
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:28,560
Speaker 2: police report and a tempted possession.

1652
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 3: Of marijuana because she didn't have it right.

1653
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:35,600
Speaker 2: Chrystler got charged with timpted possession with intent to distribute marijuana.

1654
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 4: Both are being held without bond. Man, they don't play there.

1655
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:43,599
Speaker 2: They're doing court October twenty eighth, hell without bond for

1656
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 2: this shit. Wow. Anyway, I guess the race guys pot

1657
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 2: dealer was a white dude with dreads.

1658
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 4: People steal her.

1659
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 2: Believe the cops are her friends white smoke white and

1660
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 2: the seven and seven dumbasses, the type that doesn't give

1661
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 2: island with smoking weed. Had anyone in the story had

1662
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 2: a father, we'd all be free call the cops on

1663
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 2: that caucasion.

1664
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:18,440
Speaker 4: The correct answer is white and one person missed it,

1665
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 4: all right, man, that was pretty a sad story there.

1666
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 10: Man.

1667
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,679
Speaker 2: Sounds like the pot calling the kettle nine one one.

1668
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:34,639
Speaker 3: I sure did.

1669
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 2: Uh. And of course we got sword ratching this guys.

1670
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 2: Let's talk about these sword.

1671
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 3: The officer was like, oh, this is the opening shutcase.

1672
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 4: I know.

1673
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 3: They was like, we got you, we got you on,

1674
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 3: we got your recording.

1675
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 2: Honey, those stories are so fast. Let's do another one.

1676
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 2: It where's my wrong tab? Let me go back to

1677
01:23:55,439 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 2: guest the race. Let me let's do another one. How

1678
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 2: about about this one? A twenty six year old mother

1679
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 2: in the Lusa County ended up getting arrested at the

1680
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 2: police say her seven year old son turned her in

1681
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 2: for cooking.

1682
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 4: And using meth oh.

1683
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 2: According to Edgewater police, the boy told his uncle as

1684
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 2: well as investigators, that there's really bad stuff in my

1685
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 2: mom's car.

1686
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 3: BRender bad. That's a bad shitting of y'all. Y'all might

1687
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 3: want to look.

1688
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 2: Brianna Buchanan and her son had been living with her

1689
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 2: boyfriend's brother, Peter, who considers the seven year old his

1690
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 2: nephew from some time for some time at his Edgewater

1691
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 2: home for several days. The boy had told Peter that

1692
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 2: his mom was cooking something bad. Then on Friday, Peter said,

1693
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 2: the boy built up enough courage to show him just

1694
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:51,679
Speaker 2: how bad it was. He came to me and he said,

1695
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 2: there's really bad stuff in mom's car. I want to

1696
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 2: show you, said Peter, who asked that his last name

1697
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 2: not be published. The seven years B brought his uncle

1698
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 2: to his mother's car, opened up the trunk himself. Inside

1699
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 2: was drug parapher Now you're sitting right next to some

1700
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 2: of the boys toys.

1701
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 3: The baby was smart enough to know I don't need

1702
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:14,560
Speaker 3: to fuck with that. Yeah, it's the one kid that

1703
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 3: paid attention in the dear class.

1704
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 2: Maybe his toys was some of the parapet Yeah, transformers

1705
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:32,520
Speaker 2: like Ultra Methodists. Ah uh uh.

1706
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 4: He was fighting against Metatron.

1707
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 2: He was shocked. The police closed the trunk and told

1708
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 2: took the boy inside the car. Now one one her

1709
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 2: son who seven, just told me. She keeps basting up

1710
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 2: in the car. He open up the trunk and she

1711
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 2: has a meth lab in her trunk. Peter told her,

1712
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 2: Now I want dispatch her. Now I want operator told

1713
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 2: Peter to get away from the car. Because of the

1714
01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 2: volatility of materials used.

1715
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 3: The cook Oh shit, So she rolling around and the

1716
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 3: cocker blow up and kill hunting everybody in it.

1717
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 2: When police arrived, they found dozens of items. Decided the

1718
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 2: trunk used to cooking and used to cook and use myth.

1719
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,639
Speaker 2: What's worse, The boy also subscribed to Peter just how

1720
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 2: his mom allegedly manufactured myth. She said, when they would

1721
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 2: get all this stuff together, they would put all in

1722
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 2: a soda bottle. They would shake the soda bottle and

1723
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:28,799
Speaker 2: take the top off. I guess vented out, Peter told Buketty,

1724
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 2: which would charged. Police charged Pequeton with child neglect, possession

1725
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 2: of chemicals, myth and paraphernalia, and manufacturing and delivery of

1726
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 2: myth after Buchanan arrested. After the arrest, her son was

1727
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 2: taken in by his grandmother, away from a world.

1728
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 4: Peter says, no boy's age should.

1729
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:49,679
Speaker 3: Have to see.

1730
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 2: I can already tell you just looking at his face,

1731
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 2: he is the lead to be out of situation. The

1732
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 2: boy's grandmother planned to enroll him in school next week.

1733
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 2: So guess the race of Brianna Cannon?

1734
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 3: Every mind that baby seeing ship I ain't never seen

1735
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:03,720
Speaker 3: in my lifetime.

1736
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 4: She had nothing of Trump.

1737
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 3: Trump, let's them up up.

1738
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 2: Scholar, White future impossible. White man is today's snitch. I'm

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Speaker 2: turning you in, Becky. His mom is white. You then

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Speaker 2: only white people have snitching traits that come out that

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01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 2: early white. The correct answer is white. All right, let's

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Speaker 2: get out of here with some sword. Ratchetess everybody, You

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01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 2: guys did so good today. Uh naked sword wilder man

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01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 2: with some dude in Mayport. That's right, he was naked.

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01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 2: Apparently they don't even want to put on clothes anymore.

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Speaker 2: Just they got the sword. Wonder what it's compensating for.

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Speaker 2: I'm right, everybody, little penis.

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Speaker 1: But first, a frantic scene caught on camera as a

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Speaker 1: naked man with the causes a commotion at an apartment

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Speaker 1: complex in Atlantic Beach. Thanks for staying up with us.

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Speaker 1: I'm Rodney Smith. Jamie has the evening off. Action News

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Speaker 1: First brought you this video at six o'clock showing a

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Speaker 1: disturbed man begging someone to call police.

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Speaker 3: Action News Dannabat natually has been digging for details on

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Speaker 3: this story. Indiana. You actually spoke with a person who

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Speaker 3: saw this whole thing unfold, and.

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Speaker 13: The witness tells me that he was just trying to

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Speaker 13: help his friend move out of building nine here he says,

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Speaker 13: then a naked man walked up to him and started

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Speaker 13: asking him strange questions. This is what local Jacob Chick

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Speaker 13: had witness.

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Speaker 4: If you make it all your questions are strange to

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Speaker 4: me right.

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Speaker 13: As he was helping his friend move out of Oh.

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Speaker 4: Fuck, I didn't even do that. Hold on, guys, let

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Speaker 4: me get that back.

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Speaker 2: Uh, I accidentally close the wrong tab son of a

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Speaker 2: bitch so close to the show in the two Sorry everybody,

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Speaker 2: see if I can.

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Speaker 12: Step for.

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Speaker 13: Stard asking him strange questions. This is what local Jacob

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Speaker 13: Jacquette witnessed as he was help helping his friend move

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Speaker 13: out of auto run apartments. A naked man running around

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Speaker 13: with a three foot.

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Speaker 14: Swords to run and he would lock the door so

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Speaker 14: he couldn't get out.

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Speaker 13: Luckily, Jacquette says he was finally able to squeeze by

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Speaker 13: the man and run to his truck for safety. He

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Speaker 13: says the man was charging people and yelling at them.

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Speaker 13: You can hear it in the background.

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Speaker 14: I was honestly kind of scared because I didn't know

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Speaker 14: what he had.

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Speaker 7: However, what was going on?

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Speaker 13: Hi, this is Deanna with Action News. Can I speak

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Speaker 13: to a supervisor on Judy please. Action News called and

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Speaker 13: emailed the Jacksonville Sheriff's office multiple times to find out

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Speaker 13: what happened here. All they could tell us was there

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Speaker 13: was a call to service around eleven am in the

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Speaker 13: complex and wouldn't say anything else. But Jacquette was able

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Speaker 13: to fill us in on what happened next.

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Speaker 7: What man, what poor dad?

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Speaker 3: He says.

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Speaker 13: Another neighbor was able to make the man put the

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Speaker 13: sword down.

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Speaker 14: Luckily man was there that kind of subdued the guy

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Speaker 14: and eventually got him to drop the sword and then

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Speaker 14: tacking him to the ground and waiting until the cops came.

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Speaker 13: Jaquet says he doesn't know why the man did what

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Speaker 13: he did, but he was relieved when neighbors stepped into help.

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Speaker 13: And neighbors tell me that they saw this same man

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Speaker 13: just a few days before, and they say he was

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Speaker 13: acting weird as well. Reporting live in Atlantic Beach, Deanna

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Speaker 13: Bett and SGCBS forty seven Action News.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you could tell the man wasn't black because nobody

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01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:40,559
Speaker 2: was screaming the world started the video. All right, guys,

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