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Speaker 3: Mail Bag episode on the Just Baseball Show. It is Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: June fifteenth. That's arm Lad and I'm Peter Apple Armed

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Speaker 3: to start off the podcast because we have plenty of

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Speaker 3: Kudah spelled Cuda. The tweet is the Diamondbacks sound sent

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Speaker 3: Dallas Kitkeel to the Arizona Complex League. And for those

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Speaker 5: that puts it together in the postseason with the veteran

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Speaker 5: experience they have and make a run. I think they

435
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Speaker 5: have an outside shot at making a run at the

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Speaker 5: Pennant and.

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Speaker 3: Just adding on to like even the youth that this

438
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Speaker 3: team has showed too. With Brendan Donovan, who is the

439
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Speaker 3: legit candidate for NL Rookie of the Year. He really is,

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's been phenomenal. But then they have another

441
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Speaker 3: candidate for NL Rookie of the Year and Nolan Gorman.

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Speaker 3: These guys across the diamond, I mean even guys we

443
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Speaker 3: haven't mentioned, like Harrison Bader, Tommy Edmond. These guys have

444
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Speaker 3: been phenomenal. The whole team has been good. But what's

445
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Speaker 3: gonna stop them. It's going to be the starting row roation.

446
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Speaker 3: It will. Jack Flaherty is coming back and we're gonna

447
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Speaker 3: love to see what we see. And I'm a bigger

448
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Speaker 3: Jack Flaherty believer than I think a lot of people are.

449
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Speaker 3: But still Jack Flaherty has there. He helps sistantly stay healthy,

450
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Speaker 3: he helps you, but he's not gonna put you that

451
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Speaker 3: much more over the top right now, the Cordinals said

452
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Speaker 3: at thirty six and twenty seven with a forty nine

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Speaker 3: run differential. Like to give you an example of where

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Speaker 3: that plus forty nine run defferential sits, like the Ashers

455
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Speaker 3: have a plus forty one run differential. The Braves are

456
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Speaker 3: at plus thirty two. Who's another team like the Toronto

457
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Speaker 3: Blue Jays are at plus forty four, so and the

458
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Speaker 3: Padres are at plus fifty one, So they're right in

459
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Speaker 3: that range. They're thirty six and twenty seven. Do you

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Speaker 3: think they win ninety two games? Like if I gave

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Speaker 3: you an over under right at ninety two and a half,

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Speaker 3: taking the over the under.

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Speaker 4: I'm taking me over.

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 4: I do think they're gonna just keep rolling. I really

466
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Speaker 4: like that. I really like what I'm seeing from them.

467
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Speaker 5: And they also have other options in the miners too,

468
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Speaker 5: either to trade or to call up to the big

469
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Speaker 5: leagues guys that are hitting well in triple A. I

470
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Speaker 5: am worried about We talked about it before we recorded

471
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Speaker 5: the Dakota Hudson Regression. How are you gonna hedge that regression?

472
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Speaker 5: Go get an arm if Steven Mattz can come back

473
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Speaker 5: and give you anything that obviously helps. Matthew Libertorre looked

474
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Speaker 5: a lot better today or yesterday today as we're recording

475
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Speaker 5: this in the last outing, so he's if he can

476
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Speaker 5: start to get better, he's not gonna get worse.

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Speaker 3: So I think it was against the pirates.

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Speaker 4: It was against the pirates.

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Speaker 5: It was against the pirates, But as it gets more acclimated,

480
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Speaker 5: as the year goes on, he could end up getting

481
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Speaker 5: better and better for you. And again, the offense I

482
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Speaker 5: think is going to keep improving because outside of Paul Goldchmith,

483
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Speaker 5: no one's.

484
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Speaker 4: Playing out of their minds offensively.

485
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Speaker 5: I think it's going to continue to get better in

486
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Speaker 5: that regard to I mean, we saw what Tyler O'Neill is.

487
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Speaker 4: Capable of and starting to show flashes of that.

488
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Speaker 5: So I think this team can win ninety plus, easily

489
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Speaker 5: win ninety two, and I hope that they kind of

490
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Speaker 5: push all the chips forward here I.

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Speaker 3: Would say slightly over as well. And Cardinals fans the

492
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Speaker 3: reason why they're probably thinking, well, they just both went

493
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Speaker 3: over ninety two, but they keep harping on the idea

494
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Speaker 3: that we need a starter, like why if we're this good.

495
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Speaker 3: We're holding you to a different standard, Cardinals fans, and

496
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Speaker 3: I hope you appreciate it. We're trying to get you

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Speaker 3: to a World Series, and a World Series has to

498
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Speaker 3: have a Frankie montas in, it has to have possibly

499
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Speaker 3: a Luis Castillo, and it has to have one of

500
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Speaker 3: these high end starters to back up Waynwright, to back

501
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Speaker 3: up Michaelis. Because you're gonna be facing these rotations like

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Speaker 3: the Mets will when you face them in the World

503
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Speaker 3: in the playoffs, when you got to Gram Scherzer, Bassett,

504
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Speaker 3: you know, and even Tyler or McGill, like you're gonna

505
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Speaker 3: have to face those teams with the Dodgers and Buller

506
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Speaker 3: and Arius and I mean, these are gonna be tough

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Speaker 3: rotations that you've got to get through. And when you

508
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Speaker 3: have the firepower in your rotation and match up, because

509
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Speaker 3: your offense can run with anybody, you can win the

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Speaker 3: National League and possibly win the World Series with a

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Speaker 3: high end starting pitcher added to your roster.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Dakota Hudson versus Chris Bassett.

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Speaker 5: And I know Hudson's been good, but like and I

514
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Speaker 5: know it's been bad, but like, give me Chris Bassett

515
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Speaker 5: every day of the week.

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Speaker 3: And unfortunately Jacob de Gram over Wainwright Sures or over

517
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Speaker 3: whoever they're too, they're gonna be favored in quotes every

518
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Speaker 3: game and it's gonna be up to the Cardinals to

519
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Speaker 3: win as underdogs and basically every game unless they add

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Speaker 3: a big time starter to lengthen out that rotation. Let's

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Speaker 3: move on to the third question. It's another good one.

522
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Speaker 3: Then after the third, let's talk about our friends at loop.

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Speaker 3: Third question, is Luisa Rise an All Star? And can

524
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Speaker 3: the Twins actually compete with the best teams. So we've

525
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Speaker 3: talked about this a little bit about the twins and

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Speaker 3: how we think they can compete, but I'm just gonna

527
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Speaker 3: answer straight up for Luisa Rise. Of course, dude, Lean

528
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Speaker 3: the league in batting average three sixty two. He is

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Speaker 3: one of the most consistent headers now in baseball. He's

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Speaker 3: not Tony Gwinn. Of course, he's not Tony Gwynn, but

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Speaker 3: he's playing like Tony Gwinn, like Tony Gwynn light in

532
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Speaker 3: the sense of he's hitting three sixty He's not gonna

533
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Speaker 3: hit for a ton of power, but every single day

534
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Speaker 3: he's going two for four. It seems like Luisa Ries

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Speaker 3: definitely should be an All Star. And right now, I

536
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Speaker 3: know Buxton is standing on his head and when he's

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Speaker 3: seeing the ball say good night because it's an auto

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Speaker 3: home run every game. But over this entire season, Luisa

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Speaker 3: Rise has been the best hitter on the Twins, which

540
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Speaker 3: features Carlos Korea, Jorge Polonco, and Byron Buckston. Like he's

541
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Speaker 3: been the best hitter on the team this year.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's getting on base at a four forty

543
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Speaker 4: four O clip. It's just insane.

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Speaker 5: And the thing is, he's not only hitting the best

545
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Speaker 5: he's ever hit in terms of batting average, the Babib's

546
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Speaker 5: not really that insane, so you can't really point to talk.

547
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Speaker 5: He's walking more than he ever has walked in his career.

548
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Speaker 5: He's striking out the least pretty much since his rookie season,

549
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Speaker 5: which was a ninety two game sample size. When you

550
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Speaker 5: have twenty six walks against eighteen strikeouts in today's major leagues,

551
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Speaker 5: you are a freak.

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Speaker 4: And he's doing that now in two hundred and sixteen

553
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Speaker 4: played appearances.

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Speaker 5: So this is a guy that has really just gone

555
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Speaker 5: full throwback style and has just been phenomenal.

556
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Speaker 4: But not only that, he's hitting the ball harder than

557
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Speaker 4: he ever has, and that's why.

558
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Speaker 5: We're seeing a lot more of these singles turn into doubles,

559
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Speaker 5: maybe a lot more of these groundouts get through for

560
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Speaker 5: base hits. And that's why we're talking about a dude

561
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Speaker 5: that has kind of taking his games to the next level.

562
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Speaker 5: Max exit vell o three miles per hour higher than

563
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Speaker 5: it's ever been, Average exit vello up a mile per

564
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Speaker 5: hour as well, So he's hitting the ball more frequently

565
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Speaker 5: and hitting the ball harder while making better swing decisions.

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Speaker 5: I would bet a lot of money on that guy

567
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Speaker 5: having a better year than he's ever had before.

568
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Speaker 4: And that's exactly what's happening.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly what's happening. And just moving on to the

570
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Speaker 3: Twins portion of this, like we said at the beginning,

571
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Speaker 3: you know, they're getting back Joe Ryan, which is huge

572
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Speaker 3: for them because he was he was the front runner

573
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Speaker 3: for the American League Rookie of the Year before Jeremy

574
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Speaker 3: Penney started standing on his head and Joe Ryan got hurt.

575
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Speaker 3: And then they're going to get back to Sonny Gray

576
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Speaker 3: as well. My thing is with the Twins and they've

577
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Speaker 3: had to piece together some starts with you know, Cole

578
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Speaker 3: Sands or you know, a couple of guys here and there,

579
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Speaker 3: but Devin smeltz Her has been fantastic for them. That's

580
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Speaker 3: a guy who at least they can lean on right now.

581
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Speaker 3: But then again, how much longer is that going to last?

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Speaker 3: I am always afraid of this Twins rotation of what

583
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 3: we're going to get in day in and day out.

584
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 3: But the offense is humming. But then again, I also

585
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 3: think to the you know, it's Chris Paddock now being

586
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 3: out for the year for them, who's a big loss

587
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 3: for them? The bullpen, you know, trading away Rogers to

588
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 3: San Diego for Chris Paddick, and now Chris Pattick goes down.

589
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 3: How will the bullpen continue to last thro out the

590
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 3: season along with the starting rotation, that's the question. But

591
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 3: they can address those needs of the deadline. The Orioles

592
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 3: have plenty of relievers available. I mean there's teams with

593
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Speaker 3: plenty of relievers available. So the Twins can manage this

594
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 3: and they don't have to sell the farm. Just go

595
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Speaker 3: get a solid arm, kind of like a Chris Paddock,

596
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 3: and then add some bullpen pieces and this team is

597
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 3: ready for a playofform.

598
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Speaker 5: And you know what the craziest thing is Peter about

599
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Speaker 5: all that is you talk about the rotation, and even

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Speaker 5: with the rotation healthy, we're like, oh, they could use

601
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Speaker 5: another arm. Like you mentioned, the rotation has been decimated.

602
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Speaker 5: I mean, Sonny Gray has been hurt what it seems

603
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Speaker 5: like almost the entire year. Joe Ryan is just making

604
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 5: his return, Baily Ober has been hurt as well, and

605
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 5: like we always joke about how tall he is, but

606
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 5: you know what he's He's a guaranteed at least big

607
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 5: league arm every fifth day, which they didn't Yeah, which they.

608
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Speaker 4: Didn't have for a while they didn't. Yeah, I'll take that.

609
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 5: Like they were running out Devin Smeltzer, who's been great,

610
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 5: but like they didn't know what they were going to

611
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 5: get from all of these guys. The bullpen makes me

612
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 5: a little bit more nervous. I mean, we've seen Duran

613
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 5: and he's been great. Amelia Pegan has been good in spots,

614
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 5: but some of the advanced numbers would point towards, you know,

615
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Speaker 5: maybe some regression. But again, relievers sometimes they can outperform

616
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Speaker 5: that for a whole year. I need to see some

617
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 5: some arms in there too. But also the offense has

618
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 5: been banked up Jack. I mean we talked about Byron

619
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Speaker 5: Buxton's like load management, which I'm fully behind, but at

620
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Speaker 5: the same time, that's tough. Carlos Carey has been hurt

621
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Speaker 5: like the whole year, but all of a sudden they're

622
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Speaker 5: hitting three zero two, three seventy three, four to fifty nine.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they have been banged up from top to

624
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Speaker 5: bottom and have still been able to stay afloat. We'll

625
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 5: see what they get from alex kiroll Off, We'll see

626
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Speaker 5: what they get from some of these other dudes. But

627
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 5: Trevor Warnick has filled in and been great, and I

628
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 5: think that is a very big development.

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Speaker 4: Jose Miranda starting to.

630
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Speaker 5: Heat up and figure it out at the big league level,

631
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Speaker 5: that's a very big development. And I mean this is

632
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 5: a very deep team. Bats wise, go get another arm

633
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 5: and they can go make that trade, they can do something.

634
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Speaker 5: I'm excited to see what they're gonna do because I

635
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 5: think they're gonna push the Chips forward because they got

636
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 5: to convince Carlos care to stick around, and I think

637
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 5: they've got a good chance of doing so. If they can,

638
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 5: you know, take the division this year and show that

639
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 5: they're serious about winning.

640
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 4: I think they've shown that.

641
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Speaker 5: But let's let's kind of remind Carlos Carrea how serious

642
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 5: Minnesota is about winning and how this franchise is a

643
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 5: little different.

644
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 3: They should go get Felix Patisa from the Orioles so

645
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Speaker 3: they can have Jan Duran and Felix Patissa just throwing

646
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 3: hermano or bowling balls. People like just having those two

647
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 3: back there. That's a scary back end. That's all I

648
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 3: gotta say. And they could do it pretty easily, It's

649
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Speaker 3: and question number four is a good one. What is

718
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Speaker 3: one move that will shake up the league at the deadline? Now,

719
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Speaker 3: this is a very tough question because we just did

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Speaker 3: a mock trades article. All right, we just did a

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Speaker 3: much you wrote a mock trades article, we did a

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Speaker 3: mock trades podcast. So let's try and be different. Let's

723
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Speaker 3: try and figure out what a move that could be

724
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Speaker 3: made at the deadline like a crazy blockbuster. And we're

725
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Speaker 3: speculating on this one because this is this is something

726
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 3: that has maybe a ten to fifteen percent chance of happening.

727
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Speaker 3: Because we laid out nine different trades that we think

728
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Speaker 3: have a good shot of happening. So if you're interested

729
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Speaker 3: in seeing more about trades, go check out just Baseball

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Speaker 3: dot com or listen to one of our past previous episodes.

731
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Speaker 3: It was like three or four episodes ago. When you're

732
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Speaker 3: scrolling arm what's put your crazy add on? Put you

733
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Speaker 3: crazy add on? It's always on, It's always on. I'm

734
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Speaker 3: just trying to rack my brain right now of just

735
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Speaker 3: like what could potentially break the league in terms of

736
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Speaker 3: one of those moves that you think to yourself, wow,

737
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Speaker 3: I did not see that coming. And I have a

738
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Speaker 3: I have a I have one that makes no sense.

739
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Speaker 3: I have one that makes no sense. But it's something

740
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Speaker 3: that I've been thinking about for the past couple of weeks.

741
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Speaker 3: I see where the Mariners are, and I think to myself,

742
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Speaker 3: all right, so most of their young guys, like the Kirby's,

743
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 3: you know Kirby's, are been looking good. But still there's

744
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 3: still a couple of years away from those guys really

745
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 3: making Hula Rodriguez, noel Vie Marte, Matt Brash like they're

746
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 3: on the cusp, but they're not truly there yet. And

747
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Speaker 3: this is again I'm putting my crazy hat on. Don't

748
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Speaker 3: I don't think this is actually gonna happen, But I

749
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Speaker 3: was thinking, what if the Mariners blow it up? Not

750
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Speaker 3: blow it up, but maybe, you know, see if people

751
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Speaker 3: want CHESSI Winker Steve, if people want some of their arms,

752
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: like maybe at Chris Flex and Mark co Gonzalez guys

753
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Speaker 3: like that. That's just an anager that Mitch Hanneger guys

754
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Speaker 3: like that, a team that just doesn't seem to be

755
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 3: it this year. And I hate to say this because

756
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Speaker 3: I do think that the Mariners in a couple of

757
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 3: years will be good, and I don't truly think that

758
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 3: they're going to do it. It was just a thought

759
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 3: exercise to me, thinking, all right, well, we know their

760
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Speaker 3: GM will do a bunch like he will make some

761
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Speaker 3: of these types of moves. Do you think there's any

762
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Speaker 3: shot the Mariners just blow it up?

763
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Speaker 5: I think I I so blow it up is like, uh,

764
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Speaker 5: you know, I think people might think that means trade everybody. Yeah,

765
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 5: everybody under age twenty six is staying right. Yes, I

766
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 5: could definitely see them. That's like a retool, right, Like

767
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Speaker 5: I could see them trading Mitch Haniger trading some of

768
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Speaker 5: these other guys and just sort of adjusting their timeline

769
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Speaker 5: a little bit. I think after the way they finished

770
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Speaker 5: last year, a lot of people in the organization.

771
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Speaker 4: And us included I thought, hey, you know, this team

772
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Speaker 4: is on the cusp.

773
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 5: And then they got to this year and they realized, Hey,

774
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Speaker 5: some of our guys are a little bit younger and

775
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 5: not quite ready to help us yet, like Matt Brash

776
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Speaker 5: and some of the other dudes that we've talked about,

777
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Speaker 5: even a Julio Rodriguez, who has been phenomenal this year

778
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Speaker 5: now over the last month, started slow and like, is

779
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Speaker 5: that a guy that you can lean on day in

780
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Speaker 5: and day I lean on into the postseason and.

781
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 3: He's theirs, A three hitter, He's gonna go through these rules.

782
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Speaker 3: Twenty one, we were talking about Michael Harris on not

783
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Speaker 3: Gambling Device about a Fantasy impact, like, should you be

784
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 3: running to go pick up Michael Harris? And I said

785
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 3: to cold because he pitched it and it was a

786
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 3: great pitch, because Michael Harris is great. But I was like,

787
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 3: don't as a twenty one As a twenty one year

788
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: old in Michael Harris, don't you think he's gonna go

789
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Speaker 3: through an adjustment period where pitchers, then all right, this

790
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 3: is what he can hit, this is what he can't.

791
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 3: Let's pitch him differently, see what he can do. That's

792
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 3: gonna happen to Julio Rodriguez again, like it's gonna happen

793
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 3: to these guys. And when Julio, I mean Ty France

794
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 3: is like a Hall of Famer basically he's the best,

795
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 3: but he is like so fantastic. But outside of that,

796
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 3: like Adam Fraser is not that guy. Like they just

797
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: don't have that much offense right now. Yeah, it is

798
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 3: Julio Rodriguez, like the three hitter who's going to take

799
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 3: you to the Promised Land this year? I don't think so.

800
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

801
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 5: I mean, like I love Jay rodd and I think

802
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 5: I think he's one of the best, brightest young players

803
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 5: in the game. But if that's the guy that's like

804
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 5: the catalyst of your offense, you're leaving yourself exposed because

805
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 5: rookies are gonna go through their fits and you know,

806
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 5: right now is an up and there might be another down.

807
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Speaker 4: We'll see.

808
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 5: I just think the Mariners have started to realize even

809
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 5: on the pitching sid can you lean on George Kirby to.

810
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 3: Be a guy for you all the time.

811
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 4: Clearly, Robbie Ray is not cy young Robbie Ray.

812
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 5: Like, I'm not saying give up yet, but I think

813
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 5: we're trending towards Hey, maybe it's not this year, let's

814
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 5: build for the next three, four or five years. And

815
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 5: I could easily see them doing that. And and all

816
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 5: of a sudden, now the trade market just got deeper

817
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 5: because a lot of teams are gonna want a healthy

818
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 5: Mitch Hanneger.

819
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Speaker 2: Uh.

820
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Speaker 5: You know, a lot of teams are gonna want some

821
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 5: of these dudes that the Mariners may be okay with trading.

822
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 5: And they've got some of the more intriguing bullpen arms

823
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 5: too that they could part with.

824
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Speaker 3: And remember this is just speculation, Like I don't know

825
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Speaker 3: if the Mariners are actually going to do this, because

826
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Speaker 3: they most likely won't. But don't you think Jerry Depoto's

827
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 3: analytics ass is just like kicking himself for the Robbie

828
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 3: right thing. I knew it should I know it didn't

829
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 3: match up with the numbers. You like feel people you

830
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Speaker 3: I test people, you convinced me like I feel like

831
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 3: the yelling at all the people who are like trust us,

832
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 3: like he's got it. It's like, no, was like, I'm

833
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 3: never not looking at this cheat ever again.

834
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Speaker 5: I was thinking about that because I was like, I

835
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 5: wonder what, like what made him decide to overlook all

836
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 5: of the numbers.

837
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 3: And it seemed like a very Jerry Depoto type movie.

838
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 4: No, I think, dude, he won the cy Young. Just

839
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 4: add the cy Young winner and you know what, like

840
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 4: he did win the cy Young. Oh had him, you know,

841
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 4: and yikes.

842
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 5: But I am thinking about a move and I want

843
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 5: to go super surprising on multiple fronts because it's a

844
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 5: guy that doesn't necessarily need to be traded, but I

845
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 5: think probably could be and also would would require a haul,

846
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 5: but also would change things drastically for a guy. We're

847
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 5: talking about executives who have behavioral patterns. AJ Prowler is

848
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 5: not want to sit still very often. And here they

849
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 5: are tied for first in the NL West with the Dodgers,

850
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 5: who just lost Walker Bueler perhaps for the majority of

851
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 5: the season, and all all of a sudden, now the

852
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 5: Padres are gonna get, you know, Fernando tatists back, hopefully

853
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 5: sooner rather than later.

854
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 4: I know some of the X rays have been a

855
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 4: little bit you.

856
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 5: Know, I wouldn't say discouraging but not as encouraging as

857
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 5: they hoped. Regardless, he's gonna come back, he's gonna live,

858
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 5: he's gonna be able to help them. What if they

859
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 5: went out and put all the chips forward and went

860
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 5: out and got Sean Murphy and just now you know,

861
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 5: you're talking about a team that's a little bit financially

862
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 5: strapped for the next couple of years, with commitments, controllable,

863
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 5: young catcher who can swing it, who can defend, and

864
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 5: isn't even twenty eight yet give up a fat haul.

865
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 5: I'm okay with it, depending on what the hall is,

866
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 5: and go get Sean Murphy. That would take the Padres

867
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 5: to the next level and this team would be good

868
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 5: and have that young core. Now you're adding a catcher

869
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 5: into the Cores for the foreseeable future. Maybe a three

870
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 5: team trade. You find another suitor for campus Ono and

871
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 5: you could pull that thing off. If not, I think

872
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 5: Wilson Contrari's to the Padres could even really change the

873
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 5: baseball landscape big time.

874
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 3: Stee, I love this deal. I love that you're that

875
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 3: you're putting that on the table because I agree with you.

876
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 3: But you were the one who told me Campusano is

877
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 3: that is that guy. I like, why why should they

878
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 3: go get a catcher if they have camp Pisano.

879
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 4: I like him, but for whatever reason, I don't know

880
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 4: if the pot like him.

881
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 5: I don't know, you know. I like Campusano, I really do,

882
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 5: but it's kind of on the on the same point

883
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 5: of Padre is trying to win now, and we know

884
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 5: a rookie catcher is probably not someone you can lean

885
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 5: on this year, Like, go get someone that's been around

886
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 5: for a little bit, still young, still controllable, and and

887
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 5: now you don't really have to worry about the catching situation.

888
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 5: Austin Nola has not been healthy, continues to just you know,

889
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 5: be somewhat of a disappointing trade for them. Put the

890
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 5: chips forward here and go get Sean Murphy. And and

891
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 5: I I like Campusano, but I don't know if San

892
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 5: Diego is the place for him. And I just don't

893
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 5: know if there's something there what it is.

894
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 3: Could use a reset. Absolutely. Next question is another good one,

895
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 3: except I already have the answer and it's no, but

896
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 3: we'll ask it anyway. Is this the year that Edwin

897
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 3: Diaz becomes a top three closer? And I know it

898
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 3: was kind of slightly disrespectful there because Edwin Diaz does

899
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: have a two point one to three era. He has

900
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 3: forty eight strikeouts in twenty five innings, and he has

901
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 3: twelve saves. The reason I say no is just off

902
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 3: the top of my head. I can think of three

903
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 3: right now and without looking at anything. Just off the

904
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 3: top of my head. Who I think are I would

905
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 3: rather have. I'd rather have Josh Hater. I'd rather have

906
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 3: Liam Hendrix. I'd rather have Devin Williams. Just on the

907
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 3: top of my head, I'd rather have Clay Holmes. I'd

908
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 3: rather have run Hellsley. There's I continue to go down

909
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 3: and these are just off the top of my head,

910
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 3: like you could probably pull up like aj Mintter of

911
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 3: the Braves. I think I'd rather have him. I'm serious.

912
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 3: I know what Edwin Diaz does. I know about Edwin Diaz.

913
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 3: We've seen Edwin Diaz before. It has nothing to do

914
00:42:54,480 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 3: with the stuff he is disgusting, has always been and disgusting.

915
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 3: You can't throw ninety nine miles an hour with a

916
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 3: ninety five million hour sinker that he barely throws. I

917
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 3: actually threw it. He threw at one time this year

918
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 3: against LEFTI. It was collected at ninety five point two.

919
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 3: He's fastball slider, but he's got a ninety one mine

920
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 3: hour slider in a ninety nine mine hour fastball. He's gross.

921
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 3: Nobody's debating that. But top three, I don't know, because

922
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 3: he tends to leave the ball over the middle and

923
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 3: he can be a blown save king, but he can

924
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 3: also be very good and he's still a good reliever.

925
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 3: I feel like my analysis of him has been slightly disrespectful,

926
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 3: but I guess when we're comparing him to the top three,

927
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 3: that's what I'm gonna get a little bit disrespectful, because

928
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 3: I don't even think.

929
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 5: He's top five, it's just it sustainable. Top three probably not.

930
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 5: I'm going to lean on, like you said, the pedigree

931
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 5: of Hendrix. I think, obviously, you know, there's no doubting

932
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 5: what that guy in Milwaukee, Josh Hader can do, and

933
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 5: he's unanimously I think the number one closer in baseball.

934
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 5: But I like this question, just from this stand point,

935
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 5: is Edwin Diz kind of figuring it out as a closer, Like, remember,

936
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 5: the guy's twenty eight years old, just turn twenty eight

937
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 5: years old. I think this is the best version of Edwin.

938
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 5: This guy that's punching out forty eight percent of batters.

939
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 5: That the era strong, the fit is strong, like everything

940
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 5: looks good. I do think that there's a chance that

941
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 5: he can pitch his way into the top three by

942
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 5: the end of the year.

943
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 4: I think there's a chance. I think lends chance.

944
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 3: He's got insane stuff, like some of the best stuff

945
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 3: in baseball, So he's of course got the chance. I

946
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 3: just don't think he's been consistent enough for me to say,

947
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 3: all right, in the ninth inning, I need three outs,

948
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 3: and there's only two players I want more than Edwin Diaz.

949
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: It's hard for me to fath them.

950
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 5: Well, you remember what he did in twenty eighteen too,

951
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 5: and I think that's one of the best closer seasons

952
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 5: we've ever seen. And if he can, if he puts

953
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 5: those numbers up again by the end of this year,

954
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 5: is he is he not top top three closer in baseball?

955
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 3: If he puts up a twenty eighteen season and he

956
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 3: continues this the entire year and has forty five saves

957
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 3: and as an ERA under two and has like fifteen

958
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 3: strikeouts for nine, yeah, you have to give it to him.

959
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 5: I just.

960
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 3: Let's see him do it, because he hasn't done it

961
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 3: since twenty eighteen. That's the point. He's been good, but

962
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 3: not that good. Now at how old is he twenty

963
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 3: twenty eight? What?

964
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 4: That's what I just said.

965
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 3: That's my fault. That's my fault. That's my fault. I

966
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 3: didn't know he's twenty eight years old.

967
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was just saying that, like people forget he's

968
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 5: twenty eight. He could kind of just figure it out

969
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 5: in the next year or two and put it all together.

970
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 5: You know, we've seen the flashes of it.

971
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 4: But I do think you're right.

972
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 5: I don't think he's there yet. The home runs are

973
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 5: the problem. Usually closers, you know, don't have that susceptibility

974
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 5: to the home run quite to the degree that Diz does.

975
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 5: But as you mentioned, sometimes at fastball runs right back

976
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 5: over the middle. But he's twenty eight years old, and

977
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 5: I mean that that is a very intriguing aspect of

978
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 5: all this is he can continue to get better. And

979
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 5: I think we're seeing the best version we've seen of

980
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 5: DS since twenty eighteen.

981
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 3: I think that's fair enough to say. So it's it's

982
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 3: definitely a question. It's more of a question than I

983
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 3: made it seem like. So let's move on to our

984
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 3: fifth question. Is Dansby Swanson an All Star this year?

985
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 3: But now what do the Braves do at second base? Unfortunately,

986
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 3: Ozzy Albi's just went down with a leg injury, and

987
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 3: we do not know his timetable to return at least yet.

988
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 3: Arm do we know his timetable.

989
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 4: It's broken foot, so I know, not anytime soon, not

990
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 4: any time soon.

991
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 3: Which but let's just talk about Dancy Swanson for a second,

992
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 3: because is Dansby Swanson in an All Star? And we

993
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 3: were talking and you know, I came up with Trey Turner,

994
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 3: you know, Fink and Frankie Lindor, and most of our

995
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 3: comments section was where is dan Sby Swanson? Where is

996
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 3: dance By Swanson? You know, I think he could be

997
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 3: an All Star? I really do think so. And it's

998
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 3: because of the improvements on defense. Now he just has

999
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 3: a very well rounded game. Like if I told you

1000
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 3: I got a shortstop arm who's twenty eight years old.

1001
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 3: He was the first overall pick. He's got eight homers,

1002
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 3: nine stills, he's hitting almost three hundred with an eight

1003
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 3: hundred ohps, and he's one of the best defenders in

1004
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 3: the game. You're I mean you're looking at a potential

1005
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 3: superstar here, and but is he potential superstar? I don't

1006
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 3: think so. I think he's off to a really great

1007
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 3: start this season, and I think you could make the

1008
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 3: argument that he's an All Star, but it is very close.

1009
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, I would say that Dancy Swanson should definitely

1010
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 3: make the All Star team. Should he be the starter,

1011
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 3: I think that's up for debate, but definitely an All

1012
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 3: Star team this year.

1013
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know I don't think he's a starter, but

1014
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 5: I think he's got to be a reserve here and

1015
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 5: shorts up such a loaded position. But what he's doing

1016
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 5: offensively and defensively, as you mentioned, it's just so insane,

1017
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 5: and I think he's gonna set it he is. I

1018
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,959
Speaker 5: don't think he will set his career high for stone bases.

1019
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 5: He already has nine, his career has ten. You know,

1020
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 5: he's on his way to getting close to last year's

1021
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 5: total of twenty seven homers. But what I of course

1022
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 5: is how much better the defense is. And remember this

1023
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 5: is a guy that got off to a putriot start

1024
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 5: and now has been really hot. So getting hot during

1025
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 5: the voting time and continuing that going forward here, this

1026
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 5: is a contract year for Danceby Swanson. He's gonna make

1027
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 5: himself a nice little chunk of change now, I think.

1028
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 5: And it's funny because we were using him and he

1029
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 5: always talked about how your barometer for an average shortstop

1030
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 5: was Dan Sby Swanson. We might need a new barometer, Peter,

1031
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 5: because he's been playing phenomenally. He could be twenty twenty

1032
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 5: this year with gold glove caliber defense, which is crazy,

1033
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 5: and I mean, if he keeps this up, he's going

1034
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 5: to get a nice little payday. I think he's an

1035
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 5: All star reserve and I mean that's a far cry

1036
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 5: from where he was at the start of this year

1037
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 5: and really at any other point.

1038
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 4: In his career.

1039
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 5: So really good things kind of developing here at age

1040
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 5: twenty eight for Dan Sby Swanson as well.

1041
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 3: We could go from coast to coast on the barometer.

1042
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 3: We could go from Dancy Swanson all the way to

1043
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 3: Seattle with JB. Crawford. But that's for another time because

1044
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 3: we got to develop the barometer after this season. We

1045
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 3: use the barometer in order to decipher who was the uh,

1046
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 3: you know, how do we rag shortstops? But that's that's

1047
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 3: for another time. Let's talk about the second base position

1048
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 3: for them, Yeah, because what are they gonna do? I

1049
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 3: mean they I know Orlando Arcia, he's had some time.

1050
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 3: He can kind of play a bunch of different positions.

1051
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 3: And the only reason I say that is because he's

1052
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 3: been great this year. He's in in three thirteen, three

1053
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 3: ninety three, four fifty eight. I don't know if they're

1054
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 3: gonna use him at second base, because I think they've

1055
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 3: used him at a bunch of different spots this year.

1056
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 3: I don't really know what they're gonna do at second base.

1057
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 3: Do they have anybody in the farm that they could

1058
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 3: possibly call up? It may be tough right now in

1059
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 3: the in the in before the trade deadline happens.

1060
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Garcia is the guy, you know, the familiarity,

1061
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 5: the defensive ability there. Like you said, he's been swinging

1062
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 5: it well. He was swinging it well in Triple A

1063
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 5: last year. Has continued to look good every time we

1064
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,959
Speaker 5: see him. So I think Garcia makes the most sense.

1065
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 5: He gives you kind of a balanced skill set. Was

1066
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 5: part of the World Series team last year. Like, I

1067
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 5: think that's the easiest solution, and I think that's enough

1068
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 5: to keep you afloat with the way this team is playing,

1069
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 5: but the way they're hitting, I.

1070
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 4: Don't know if you have to go outside the org.

1071
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 3: I think Albi's has been great this year. Albi's before

1072
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 3: he got injured. We're looking at a guy too forty

1073
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 3: four batting average, two eighty nine OBP with a four

1074
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 3: h five slogging. I mean Arcia can replicate that.

1075
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, six ninety four oh ps.

1076
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 5: Like, it's not like Albi's was score going scorch st

1077
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 5: Earth at the point of his injury, and they didn't lose.

1078
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 3: They didn't lose Riley, they lost Azzi Albi's right now,

1079
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 3: and he.

1080
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 5: Was playing at a low level at that point, so

1081
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 5: you were hoping that Albi's was gonna bounce back. But

1082
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 5: this team has been red hot kind of despite Albi's

1083
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 5: struggles and injury. So you know, I think Albi's can

1084
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 5: be a big part of this team, but I don't

1085
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 5: know if he's a necessity for them to succeed.

1086
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 2: Uh.

1087
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 5: But if Arcia does struggle at that point, maybe they

1088
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 5: look outside the org. But I think Arcia can hold.

1089
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 3: The fourth down well, at least in the nleast. Like

1090
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 3: we have two teams right now that are just on

1091
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 3: hot streaks. I mean, the Braves can't lose, and the

1092
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,439
Speaker 3: Phillies haven't really lost either since Joe Girardi left. Both

1093
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 3: these teams right now are firing. In the Mets are firing,

1094
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 3: I guess before we move on, Like, give me just

1095
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 3: give me a thirty second rant on the Marlands, give

1096
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 3: me thirty seconds. What do you think? What do you think?

1097
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 4: Right up?

1098
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 2: Oh? God?

1099
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 5: You know they they looked like they were showing signs

1100
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 5: of life. They won five in a row, and then,

1101
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 5: in just true Marlins fashion, they wasted another Sandy olt

1102
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 5: Con for a gem of a start, left him out

1103
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 5: there after walking to guys. In the eighth inning, he

1104
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 5: gets a double play, and then they take him out

1105
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 5: to bring the lefty in against d D. Gregorioas would

1106
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 5: you rather have Steven o'kurt left on left or would

1107
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 5: you rather have Sandy al Contra pitching against whoever? Yeah,

1108
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 5: but no first pitch from Okurt is a hanging breaking ball,

1109
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 5: base hit ties the game. Marlins eventually lose like that

1110
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 5: just kind of encapsulates all of it. But they are

1111
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 5: playing better, Uh, they just they're just so frustrating. Don

1112
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 5: Maddingly is not a great manager.

1113
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 4: He's not the problem. But he's not a great manager.

1114
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 5: Someone resurfaced to quote recently of Kim Ang saying that

1115
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 5: she sees the Marlins being, you know, offensive, an offensive

1116
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 5: force in the coming years, and you know that was

1117
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 5: a while ago.

1118
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 4: They're they're not an offensive force.

1119
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 3: She said that lately that she thinks there.

1120
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Speaker 4: I don't think she's followed up on that one in

1121
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 4: a little bit.

1122
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 3: I will say though, of the two farthest home runs

1123
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 3: this year, or hay Solaires at number five and hay

1124
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 3: Su Sanchez is at number one, so maybe she is right.

1125
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 4: Do they count for more?

1126
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 3: Yes, they do. That's what you get as a marletspad

1127
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 3: is that those home runs that went far, they count for.

1128
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 4: Consolation prizes are great.

1129
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 3: Consolation prizes are amazing. Let's talk about this one. This

1130
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 3: one's tough because we just got more news on Fernando

1131
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 3: Touchies Junior. Today. Is the Padres solid start without Nando

1132
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 3: or Fernando Touchies Junior sustainable. There's still no word on

1133
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 3: his MRI scan, so he may be out a bit longer.

1134
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 3: How do they prevent a catastrophic collapse like last year?

1135
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 3: What moves are realistic at the deadline? Asked by Joshua

1136
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 3: d Landis, and I apologize I have not been saying

1137
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 3: that people who have asked the question the one I

1138
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 3: want to go back just for a second so everybody

1139
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 3: gets their turn. The person who asked about luis a rise.

1140
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 3: That was asked by oh you you n io n

1141
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 3: on Twitter, Union Union what is one move that will

1142
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 3: shake up at the deadline? That was asked by Dodgers

1143
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 3: fan page one. And is this year that Edwin Dia

1144
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 3: has becomes a top three closer asked by at d

1145
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 3: Hills and the Dancey Swanson one was asked by l

1146
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 3: one d on Twitter, and then this one about the

1147
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 3: Puddres was asked by Joshua d Landis. So we just

1148
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 3: talked about the Padres a bunch and the reason why

1149
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 3: I said that we got a little bit more news

1150
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 3: on Fernando Touchies Junior is because the timetable was pushed

1151
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 3: back not good. Just continued to kind of we got

1152
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 3: no information the Padres apparently, and this is quote from

1153
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 3: the article, was that they're just they're not happy. Not

1154
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 3: it's not a happy thing, but they're just not pleased

1155
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 3: with the way he's healed, Like he's not healing as

1156
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 3: fast as.

1157
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 5: He swings with so much force, man, Like, you don't

1158
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 5: want to rush that back. Yeah, he generates so much

1159
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 5: batspeed and so much torque and so much force. If

1160
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 5: his wrist is not one hundred percent, like, he can

1161
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 5: mess that thing up again. So, given where they're at,

1162
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 5: I'm okay with pushing the timetable back. But of course

1163
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 5: that's extremely frustrating when you know you want to keep

1164
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 5: rolling and you want to get back one of the

1165
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 5: most exciting and most productive players in the sport.

1166
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 3: So what do you think about the Padres?

1167
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 5: So?

1168
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 3: I think I think they're just a tough team. Like,

1169
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 3: what do you think could keep them? It's such a

1170
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 3: tough question, what could keep them from a catastrophic collapse?

1171
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 4: So, actually, that's the.

1172
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 5: Funny thing, dude, is I actually already think they made

1173
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 5: the moves they needed to make to protect them from

1174
00:54:55,719 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 5: a catastrophic collapse. Like it's the pitching, and I I

1175
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 5: think that the pitching. But I'm not saying that this

1176
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 5: means that they're a World Series.

1177
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 4: Contender right away.

1178
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 5: I do think that they have a lot of the

1179
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 5: pieces and their mover two away from putting themselves in

1180
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 5: that conversation. But I think this team is much more

1181
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 5: impervious to the absolute catastrophic collapse because they don't have

1182
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 5: those gaping holes in their rotation. One of those guys

1183
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 5: is gonna step up and give you a quality start

1184
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 5: to get out of that, you know, losing streak. I mean,

1185
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 5: just even to add as Sean Manaia. They would have

1186
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 5: killed for a Sean Manaia last year and he's not

1187
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 5: even you know, nearly their best pitcher. Having Musgrove, you know,

1188
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,919
Speaker 5: just kind of up to the next level, having Gore

1189
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 5: looking you know, right again and looking like the Rookie

1190
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 5: of the year favorite, Like they have done everything they've

1191
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 5: needed to do, I think on the pitching side of things,

1192
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 5: and ultimately, you know, I think that's gonna be enough

1193
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 5: to keep them from a catastrophic collapse. But as we mentioned,

1194
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 5: I think they need to either answer the outfield or

1195
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 5: the catching situation, and you know, that's kind of what

1196
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 5: I'm looking at moving forward. But the pitching looks great.

1197
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 5: Maybe add a bullpen arm, but everybody can alway add

1198
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 5: a ball penar. But to answer the question, I think

1199
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 5: they've done everything they need to do to prevent the

1200
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 5: monster collapse, and that was bolster up the pitching.

1201
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 3: And the reason we they had a monster collapse was

1202
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 3: too like every like two of the five days of

1203
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 3: the week were being held by Jake Arietta and Vince VELASKI.

1204
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's how you collapse, one oh one, right there,

1205
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 6: That's how you collapse when two of the five games

1206
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,280
Speaker 6: during the week are el's so like, you're already gonna

1207
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 6: lose forty percent of your game before you can and

1208
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 6: then if Joe Muscove has a tough start, all right,

1209
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 6: now you're losing sixty percent of the games during the week.

1210
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 3: That's just too much and it starts spiraling and getting

1211
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 3: out of control. That's the thing. Now they have Blake

1212
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 3: Snell and Mike Clevenger, like not to even mention the

1213
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 3: pitchers you already named, like they have Danelson Lamett who

1214
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 3: can come back too, Like they have so many arms.

1215
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 5: You hope Rian Weathers figures it out in triple A

1216
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 5: like that. They're in such a different place than they

1217
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 5: were in last year. So I mean, yeah, I think

1218
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 5: they're they're they're okay in that regard.

1219
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 3: Then when they get back Tatis, I mean, this is

1220
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 3: going to be very very very exciting. Yeah, last question

1221
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 3: of the mailbag. What player has shocked you the most

1222
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 3: of this year? For me, it was Luis Gonzalez, as

1223
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 3: he's putting up good at bats and getting results. That

1224
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 3: was asked by little DJ zero three zero on Instagram,

1225
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 3: and we know he asked a lot of questions about Giants,

1226
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 3: so of course his big surprise is one of his giants.

1227
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 3: But Luis Gonzalez has been fantastic, no doubt about it.

1228
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 3: Like that was a surprise for me, not crazy surprised

1229
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 3: because it's not like he's broken out now. He's this incredible,

1230
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 3: incredible player, but he has been a very nice addition

1231
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 3: for the Giants and he definitely makes them deeper all

1232
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 3: around when they needed a guy like Louis Gonzales totally.

1233
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 4: I mean that's a guy that was pretty much just

1234
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 4: let go.

1235
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 5: So anytime those guys perform, and it seems like the

1236
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 5: Giants find them more than anybody.

1237
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 4: And that's a great one.

1238
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 5: I think we have some guys that have floored us

1239
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 5: even more, and I could to start with William Contreras

1240
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 5: to stay on the Braves front.

1241
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 4: What William Contreras is doing for.

1242
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 5: The Atlanta Braves right now has been wild because for

1243
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 5: a little stretches there. They were struggling to get things

1244
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 5: going offensively, and then all of a sudden, your twenty

1245
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 5: four year old catching prospect, you move him from behind

1246
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 5: the dish and he rakes two ninety two, three seventy six,

1247
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 5: six seventy four slash line nine home runs in one

1248
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 5: hundred and one played appearances. Peter, I mean, this guy

1249
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 5: is a lot more and as Klay Snowden run on

1250
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 5: Just Baseball dot Com, a lot more than just Wilson

1251
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 5: Contreras's brother. Both the Contreras brothers are raking this year.

1252
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 5: And I don't know what's gonna look like defensively for

1253
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 5: Contrarass behind the dish long term, but he's proven to

1254
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 5: be a big league bat, no doubt about it.

1255
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 3: So I have three things that really shock me, and

1256
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 3: we can keep going back and forth because I know

1257
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 3: you have another one too, and then I'll do my

1258
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 3: third to end it. My first one that I want

1259
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 3: to talk about. What's shocking to me is how bad

1260
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 3: Javy are biased. He knew he wouldn't be elite, or

1261
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 3: at least that's what we projected him as, but did

1262
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,439
Speaker 3: we think he would be the worst hitter of all

1263
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 3: that qualifying WRC plus. Did we really think that? No,

1264
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 3: he has been a shell. He can't hit anything. We said,

1265
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 3: he is now one for his last forty, for his

1266
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 3: last forty, he's got no plan up there. Will he

1267
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 3: bounce back maybe? But did I expect now on June fifteenth,

1268
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 3: we're about, you know, sixty games in for him to

1269
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 3: be the actual worst hitter of all that qualify. I

1270
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 3: did not expect that.

1271
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 4: No, absolutely not.

1272
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 5: I mean, like I've never been that high on hobby

1273
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 5: by as, but he he ultimately will hit enough home

1274
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 5: runs and you know, steal enough bags and whatever to

1275
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 5: get you a respectable WRC plus.

1276
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 4: But he's the worst. Like he's legitimately been horrible. You

1277
00:59:59,320 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 4: mentioned no pla.

1278
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 5: I mean, that's very clear. He's just hacking up there.

1279
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 5: And it's been really, really tough to watch. It really

1280
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 5: has because he's one of those guys that when he

1281
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 5: is not going right, you almost want to shield your eyes.

1282
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 5: You almost just don't even want to keep watching because

1283
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 5: it's so brutal.

1284
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 4: And that's what it's been.

1285
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 5: I don't even mean to pile on, but like he's

1286
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 5: been that brutal, I'm gonna stick with the braves on

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Speaker 5: this one again, and I gotta go Kyle Wright, because

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Speaker 5: Kyle Wright was downright terrible for the last several years.

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Speaker 5: Every time he got up to the big leagues, it

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Speaker 5: would be he'd be decent in Triple A and then

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Speaker 5: get shelled at the big leagues, get sent back to

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Speaker 5: Triple A, be decent, get shelled in the big leagues.

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Speaker 4: And I wrote something.

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Speaker 5: Earlier in the year kind of breaking down what Kyle

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Speaker 5: Wright figured out on the mound on Just Baseball dot com,

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Speaker 5: and you can check that out if you search Kyle

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Speaker 5: Wright on our website. But I mean, I'm still shocked

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Speaker 5: at what this guy's doing to have the five plus

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Speaker 5: era in every stint, you know, in his big league career,

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Speaker 5: and then to do what he's doing this year, which

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Speaker 5: is to a two five seven e R.

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Speaker 4: And you could be like, oh, is he lucky?

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Speaker 5: No? Two eight six FIP. I mean, he's striking out

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Speaker 5: guys more than he ever did. He looks incredible, and

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Speaker 5: I mean the Braves needed him in the worst way

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Speaker 5: and he's really come up big for them. I'm very

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Speaker 5: floored at how sold I am on this performance too.

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Speaker 5: Is really what kind of stands out to me is

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Speaker 5: one of the biggest and most drastic changes I've seen

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Speaker 5: from a picture of year to year.

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Speaker 3: Also, just before I finish up the Cayle right point,

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Speaker 3: whenever we whenever you bag on the Marlins, they while

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Speaker 3: you're talking, they go nuclear the the Phillies in the

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Speaker 3: first inning four zero.

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Speaker 4: Hold on, let me guess who is it?

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Speaker 1: Who hit it?

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Speaker 4: Yes, it did, Solier Homer.

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Speaker 3: Let's see it was an.

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Speaker 4: I can tell by their reaction was it was?

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Speaker 1: It?

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Speaker 3: Was it?

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Speaker 4: Fucking Abvy Garcia.

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Speaker 3: Avid Garcia, Holbert's Aguilar also home.

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Speaker 5: I loves Aguilar, but like god, Avey Garcia Homer. They're

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Speaker 5: gonna put him in the have spots tomorrow. Now, Hey,

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 4: I just can't only make noises at this point. I'll

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Speaker 4: take it. I'll take it. They're swinging it. They needed that.

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Speaker 3: But just to finish with the Kyle Wright point, Kyle

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Speaker 3: Wright basically just replaced elite Charlie Morton for them. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's what I thought. That's why I kind of contextualized,

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Speaker 3: like you just you got the best out of Charlie Morton.

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Speaker 3: And as soon as he's starting to slow down, Kyle right, yep, bang,

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Speaker 3: My next shocker is that Herman Marquez is one of

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Speaker 3: the worst pitchers in baseball, and he has a six

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Speaker 3: point zero nine ERA, so we actually has his second

1337
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 3: worst ERA in the entire sport. He's got a one

1338
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 3: to five to one whip. He's not striking anybody out either.

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01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 3: So this is always a guy, you know, when we

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Speaker 3: look at the eras, you know, he was four four

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Speaker 3: zero last er. You know, he's in the threes the

1342
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 3: year before. So I was never expecting him to be

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01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 3: like a two year guy, especially pitching so much at

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Speaker 3: Coors Field. But I did not expect that his fastball

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Speaker 3: was going to be one of the worst pitches in baseball.

1346
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 3: I didn't expect that the slider would be terrible and

1347
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 3: that everything he throws in the zone gets throttled. Six

1348
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 3: point zho nine ERA, and you look at his savant page,

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Speaker 3: the only thing that's read is his spin on his

1350
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 3: fastball and his curveball, and actually, no, that's a lie.

1351
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Speaker 3: Fastball spin. He's in the eighteenth percent of it's fastball velocity.

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Speaker 3: So the only thing he's got is that on his

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01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 3: on his third offering, he's got a decent amount of

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01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 3: spin on that curveball. And then on the fastball, he's

1355
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 3: still throwing at ninety five. But against the fastball, opponent's

1356
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 3: hurting three eighty two. And against that slider that's supposed

1357
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 3: to be nasty, guys are hitting two seventy one against

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01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 3: the pitch, and that's like his best offering. This just

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01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 3: shocked me. I wasn't expecting Herman Marquez to take a

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01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 3: massive jump and become an ace, but I certainly wasn't

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01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 3: expecting him to be possibly the worst pitcher in this

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Speaker 3: year for those that qualify.

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Speaker 5: But do you remember we always used to say in

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Speaker 5: the early days of the of the you Know podcast,

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01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 5: maybe even back when it was projected plate, it was

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01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 5: like if Herman Marquez didn't pitch a course, he'd be

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01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 5: like a top thirty pitcher. We always used to say that,

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01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 5: and I really believed it. But I mean, I don't

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01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 5: know if I don't know if you can say that anymore.

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Speaker 5: What we really I think everybody kind of thought that

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01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 5: that this guy's a super talented pitcher that's stuck in

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01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 5: a bad environment and makes do because he was still

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Speaker 5: really solid.

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Speaker 4: But this is a this is a joke what we've seen.

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01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 4: I mean, he's getting pummeled and I don't. I just

1376
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 4: don't know. It's not like he hit this age marker

1377
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 4: where he's thirty three, Like he's still young.

1378
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 5: He's still on the twenty seven. Yeah, he's still on

1379
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 5: the right side of thirty. Something went awry for him

1380
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 5: and and he just can't seem to find it.

1381
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 4: I'm with you. That is a shocking one for me too.

1382
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 5: You know, I could see struggles, but not catastrophic struggles

1383
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 5: even no matter where you're playing.

1384
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 3: It's shocking, just absolutely shocked. Like right now, I'm just

1385
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 3: going to the run value leader boards because right now,

1386
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 3: like best pitches in baseball by run value of the

1387
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 3: Mackenzie Gore fastball, actually like the Clay Holmes you know

1388
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 3: fastball as well. But like when we look at worst

1389
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 3: pitches in baseball arm right now, Vladimir gutierres Is four

1390
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,919
Speaker 3: seamer is still right there. Kyle bradish is next, you'll

1391
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 3: want to don and then Herman Marquez's four seam, Like

1392
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 3: it's worse than Chris Bubich's fastball. It's worse than guys

1393
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 3: like Carlos Hernandez. It's worse than the Dallas Kichel cutter.

1394
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 3: Right now by run value, Herman Marquez's fastball is the

1395
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 3: fourth worst pitch in baseball. That's shocking. Yeah, for a shocking.

1396
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 4: I got plenty of swinging mess on that pitch through the.

1397
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 3: Years, So now I have one more, but it's more

1398
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 3: of a small one. Do you just have a small

1399
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 3: one that kind of off the top of your head,

1400
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 3: You're just like, Wow, this guy's doing this thing, because

1401
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 3: I have one that I could give you to kind

1402
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 3: of give you some time to think.

1403
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 5: Honestly, I'll talk about I mean, it's early, and I

1404
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 5: think he's gonna be okay, but I've been very surprised

1405
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 5: by Trevor Rodgers struggles with how good he looked last year.

1406
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 5: You know, I've been and he's pitching right now, and

1407
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 5: I know he's gonna throw a no hitter now as

1408
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 5: I'm talking about this, So maybe I'm just trying to

1409
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 5: help him out. But uh, you know, his viewoh has

1410
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 5: been good, Like everything's been all right, and it's just

1411
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 5: been a little bit of inconsistency. But I actually just

1412
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 5: pulled up the Savon page. He's up to ninety seven tonight,

1413
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 5: so you know, maybe he's getting it going in the

1414
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 5: right direction. So I don't want to sound it, Like

1415
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 5: you said, small one, small one is just I'm surprised

1416
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 5: that he's struggling this year because he was so good

1417
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 5: last year, had his blip and then finished strong, and

1418
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 5: usually I expect those guys to keep the momentum going

1419
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 5: and he's hit that wall. So we'll see how he progresses.

1420
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 5: But it's been starting to get to a larger sample

1421
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 5: size of struggles here and that was pretty surprising to

1422
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 5: me because he was dynamite last year.

1423
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 3: Crazy surprising to me, and my last one to just

1424
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 3: wrap up with this episode of the Mailbag, I'm just

1425
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 3: I'm pretty shocked that Julia Rodriguez leads the league in

1426
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 3: stolen bases. Yeah, I'm pretty shocked by that he's at

1427
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 3: seventeen last So in the twenty twenty I liked looking

1428
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 3: seeing what the leaderboards were twenty twenty because we're at

1429
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 3: the sixty game mark, so it's it's a good evaluator

1430
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 3: of kind of where we're at. Like Aldebert Demondassy had

1431
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 3: twenty four at the time at the end of the

1432
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 3: sixty game, but the next best was sixteen, So that

1433
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 3: means without Aldebert Demondassey, who's just.

1434
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 4: A he was a stolen base fiend.

1435
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Speaker 3: He's a fiend, and he barely plays anymore. He's just

1436
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 3: a tough person to figure out. But Julia Rodriguez without

1437
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 3: him would have led the league in stolen bases as

1438
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 3: well at the sixty game mark in twenty twenty seventeen

1439
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 3: stolen bases. He has more than Mateo, He's got more

1440
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 3: than better leads all in baseball. That was shocking to me.

1441
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 4: So what's crazy. I'm glad you brought that one up.

1442
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 4: I had Jeff Ponce from Baseball America, one of my

1443
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 4: favorite writers in the prospect world, on on the call

1444
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 4: up after Baseball America just put out their top one

1445
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 4: hundred update and I asked him off the Cup. I

1446
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 4: was like, how are we all so clueless as to

1447
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 4: how fast Julio Rodriguez was?

1448
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 5: And he said some of it was because, you know,

1449
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 5: he had kind of gone from the Olympics to other

1450
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 5: spots to other spots, and people just didn't get enough

1451
01:07:58,520 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 5: looks at him. But I'm like, you should be able

1452
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 5: to tell that this guy was this fast. And the

1453
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 5: other point that he brought up, and he said, it's

1454
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 5: more so this he worked his.

1455
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 4: Ass off to get faster in the offseason. And I

1456
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 4: didn't know that. How would many of us know that?

1457
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 5: And apparently he worked really hard on just adding strength

1458
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:19,799
Speaker 5: but not like bulky slow you down strength and being quicker,

1459
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 5: and worked on his footwork and worked on his speed

1460
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 5: and when you're that freaky, stuff like that can really

1461
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 5: make a difference. And he just made himself faster. That

1462
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:32,679
Speaker 5: is how insane Julio Rodriguez is. He grinded his ass

1463
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 5: off and made himself faster. That's what Jeff said that

1464
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:36,640
Speaker 5: he had heard from team officials and things like that.

1465
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 5: He's Baseball America's the most plugged in with teams. And

1466
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Speaker 5: I thought that was a really interesting tidbit, like, oh, yeah,

1467
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 5: maybe he just worked his butt off and gained two steps.

1468
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 5: Most guys can't do that, but Julio Rodriguez is not

1469
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 5: most guys. I agree, that's one of the biggest shocks

1470
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 5: of the year.

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Speaker 3: Too question to end it. I know I keep saying

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Speaker 3: to end it, but I think this is an interesting one.

1473
01:08:56,600 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 3: Is Julio Rodriguez the next Ronaldcunya Junior? I thought, that's

1474
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 3: what it feels like to me. There's a lot of

1475
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 3: similarities there. There's a lot of similarities there power bases. Yeah,

1476
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot there.

1477
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Speaker 5: And the thing is, though, if you're in that at

1478
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 5: that level, it's almost like you're you're the first Juyo Rodriguez.

1479
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 5: But I would I would say that if you could

1480
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 5: give a comp now that he has that speed, I

1481
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 5: think that's the closest comp.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and we'll end it with that. So click the

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Speaker 3: guy Elijah, one of our new guys we added on

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Speaker 3: putting out highlights as well as a guy Ethan putting

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Speaker 3: out a ton of highlights. And then go check out

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Speaker 3: all these different articles at just baseball dot com. If

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Speaker 3: Fantasy Baseball and gambling podcast. We just came out with

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Speaker 3: or go check out Arms Prospect Pod, so whatever you

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Speaker 3: entery into Prospect school is check out ARM. You're more

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Speaker 3: into fantasy, go check out US. But regardless, all of

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Speaker 3: it is going to be on Just Baseball dot com

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Speaker 3: and that's it. Do you have anything else?

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Speaker 4: I would saying why not both?

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Speaker 3: Why not both? So with that, thank you everybody,