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Speaker 1: Every episode of the show is about one song, one artist,

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Speaker 1: and I bring in a lot of other things ideally,

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Speaker 1: but I just wanted to get these songs talking to

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Speaker 1: each other, across the genres, across the years. The way

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Speaker 1: we lived it is different from the way we remember

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Speaker 1: it now.

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Speaker 2: Episode four twenty one, we'll talk about cover songs, good ones,

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Speaker 2: bad ones, and we'll talk to Rob Harvilla coming up,

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Speaker 2: who does one of my favorite podcasts. It's sixty songs

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Speaker 2: that made the nineties, but now he's on like song ninety.

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Speaker 2: It's like we do twenty five whistles, and we just

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Speaker 2: kept going. So we would like to Rob Harvilla and

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Speaker 2: just Little Bad's got a book coming out, but Eddie

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Speaker 2: and Reed are both in here for this one. What's

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Speaker 2: the best cover? Not maybe your favorite, what's the best

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Speaker 2: cover of all time? It's so good that people may

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Speaker 2: not even realize that.

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Speaker 3: It's a cover.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, And I can go first, go ahead, I

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Speaker 2: would say, Aretha Franklin.

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Speaker 4: Respect was that a cover Otis reading?

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Speaker 3: Oh Dan, I didn't even think about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's definitely an Otis Redding song. And he sings

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Speaker 2: it a bit different too, and he's like sweaty. I

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Speaker 2: got the record, so it was a live version, and

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Speaker 2: so I'll read the Franklin respect because I think even

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Speaker 2: I forget sometimes that that's a cover.

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Speaker 5: Oh man, that just that just brought up another one

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Speaker 5: that I didn't even think of. But it's the Black

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Speaker 5: Crows covering notice reading too hard to handle.

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Speaker 4: That's really good, same record and.

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Speaker 2: That with much Gotta Goes and my mom shot head around. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so good, same thing. Another one is Shinead O'Connor. Nothing

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Speaker 2: compares to you. That's Prince because it's a Prince song.

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Speaker 2: But she's the one that made it to hit.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with another one, Jimi Hendrix all on

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Speaker 2: How about drift Away Uncle Cracker, because I think just

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Speaker 2: a newer generation doesn't know that was Adobe Gray song,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't know that one.

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Speaker 3: See, I mean, here's read reads like twelve. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm over here thinking like Wagon.

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Speaker 2: Will okay, but that that's fine because Wagon will Well,

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Speaker 2: that would be Darius covering covering Ould Crow Medicine show

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Speaker 2: who wrote or I mean Bo Bob nos version never

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Speaker 2: came out, but it wasn't and it was just a part.

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Speaker 3: It was partial too.

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Speaker 5: It was a demo and he was just singing rock

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Speaker 5: me mom, and I need to mumble the rest.

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Speaker 2: How about Hallelujah when Jeff Buckley did it? Because Leonard

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Speaker 2: Cohen's version was and still is. I mean, Letoe is

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Speaker 2: me of Spock from the TV show Spot because he

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Speaker 2: Then maybe it doesn't even look like that. Maybe I

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Speaker 3: Well, what is it?

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Speaker 4: Leonardy is his name?

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Speaker 5: Hilarious?

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Speaker 2: Wow, I've always wondered why Hallelujah guy running me a Spock.

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Speaker 2: It's because their names are the same. So yeah, Leonard

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Speaker 2: Nimoy No, nope.

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Speaker 4: Leonard Cohen. He's dead, by the way, Cohen he is.

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Speaker 4: He just died twenty sixteen. Okay, Spock. That's why I

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Speaker 4: thought he was Spock.

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Speaker 5: He's in his version?

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Speaker 4: Is Lulujah?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 4: Really?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: With like what like a symphony or something.

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Speaker 3: But Jeff Buckley's.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's amazing. But then Buckley's is way way,

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Speaker 2: It's hard for me to say one's better because one

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Speaker 3: But the Buckley version I prefer.

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Speaker 2: Obviously it's derivative of the original, sure, but I just

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Speaker 3: But Rady, you ever heard the song?

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it's a classic.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever see him live in the concerts coming

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Speaker 2: to National next week? Well, little Dickeye, little Dickey man,

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Speaker 5: The Mississippi River.

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Speaker 6: Little Dickie died.

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Speaker 4: No, I feel like I would know about that one.

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Speaker 2: I think another one that people know now for the

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Speaker 2: think when Whitney first came back with it, I don't

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Speaker 2: think everybody knew it was Dolly like.

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Speaker 3: That was a great cover.

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Speaker 5: You do a good cover that one too, Proud Mary, uh,

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Speaker 2: But who did that first? Was it Credence or CCR? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Oh oh gosh, Janice Joplin and Bobby McGhee.

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Speaker 2: And what's crazy about that song because Chris Kostopherson, he

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Speaker 2: wrote it. What's crazy is she never felt any success

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Speaker 2: from that song she died before it hit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's tough.

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Speaker 4: That documentary is tough to watch. It was really good.

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Speaker 5: It's a good one. If you know nothing about her, well,

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Speaker 5: I know, even if you know a little bit about her, man,

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Speaker 5: you learn a lot of stuff about Jane Joplin.

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Speaker 3: Tough life.

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Speaker 4: She went through it, she did, She had a tough life.

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Speaker 5: People were mean to her. What was crazy too, is

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Speaker 5: I didn't know her and Jerry Garcia like we're a thing.

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Speaker 5: Jerry Garcia from The Grateful Dead, like they loved each other,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, her story is sad, like the ultimate ultimate bullied person.

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Speaker 3: So those are all that we like.

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Speaker 2: But this whole article here comes out and this is

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Speaker 2: cover songs that the original artists hated when the new

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Speaker 2: artists did them, because I want to lead with that

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Speaker 2: positive part of it, but then get to the juicy

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Speaker 4: So the Kinks back in the day had.

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Speaker 2: Girl you Really Got Me Now you Got Me souch.

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Speaker 5: Oh, come on. They hated van Halen's version they did

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Speaker 5: how you hate that?

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Speaker 2: Ray Davies or the Kink said it sounded very Middle America,

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Speaker 2: and his brother David quote, good art isn't always about

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Speaker 4: I don't really like the van Halen version. You don't

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Speaker 4: I like the original?

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Speaker 2: Oh dude, it's van Halen sounds too like I don't

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Speaker 2: But this is the original? Is Tom Waits fifty five.

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Speaker 3: And the Eagles that cover of it? But I don't

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Speaker 6: So quickly.

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Speaker 7: Ibnodes sounds familiar, yeah, because it sounds like the Eagles,

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Speaker 7: But I don't.

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Speaker 2: And I even I like Tom Waits a lot. I

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Speaker 2: a lot of Tom Waits. I don't even know that

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Speaker 2: purist or an Egles peace, if I hate us right now,

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Speaker 2: I don't know those songs. So here is let's play

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Speaker 2: the sex pistols. Here is anarchy in the UK?

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Speaker 7: Here Johnny Rotten, that's what it is. Hey, that story

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Speaker 7: is pretty chile too. I don't know that story.

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Speaker 3: How he died in the hotel.

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Speaker 4: I think that's same band.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you though, that's the same band though, right, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I will tell you.

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Speaker 5: I was watching like when I worked.

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Speaker 4: And uh, sit and Sid that's right, Sit in Nancy.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, go ahead, sit in Nancy.

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Speaker 4: That was yeah, ambitious in New York.

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Speaker 5: You tell me what is that story? I'll tell you

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Speaker 5: my story.

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Speaker 2: I'm gona mess it up. You've aready missed it a four times,

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Speaker 2: so why don't you just take it from here?

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Speaker 4: That's all I really remember. Story like Romeo and Juliet,

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Speaker 4: but the punk Trajic story.

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Speaker 5: Oh really yeah?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So what are you saying about the news?

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Speaker 1: I know I was.

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Speaker 5: I was at home because I worked night shift, and

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Speaker 5: so I was watching watching Judge Judy, and uh, Johnny

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Speaker 5: Rotten was on there getting sued by his roadies. I

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Speaker 5: wish I could find that episode again because it was awesome.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 5: His roadies are like.

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Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, they're just going to pay friend of.

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Speaker 3: Our hotels didn't do it.

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Speaker 5: And we'd check into these hotels and Johnny would have

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Speaker 3: Band, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 4: It was amazing?

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Speaker 5: Wow, Yeah, Judge Judy Johnny Rotten check it out.

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Speaker 2: After the sex Pestile just abandoned seventy eight, Sit and

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Speaker 2: Nancy moved to New York City, where could attempt to

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Speaker 3: But heroin was very cheap.

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Speaker 2: By this point, Said and Nancy were desperately sick with

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Speaker 3: And they died.

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Speaker 2: And Sid was who of the second and the whole

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Speaker 3: And they don't because but did he stab her?

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Speaker 4: I think it added a heroin overdose.

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Speaker 3: But do you think she stabbed herself?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't even like the sex pstial, to be honest

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Speaker 5: You could do crazy stuff when you're on that heroin stuff.

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Speaker 3: So you're here, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: That's what I hear.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Here's Motley Crue doing anarchy in the UK. I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you I don't leave both of them me too. Who cares?

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Speaker 2: Now we're get to music, guy, Like here, first of

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Speaker 2: all is the who with behind blue Eyes?

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Speaker 3: Like, god, dude, you do you know who covered it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Limp Biscuit, No, No, it's pretty good too.

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Speaker 2: It is. And I when I first came out, like

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Speaker 2: this is gonna be lame. It's awesome because they never

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Speaker 4: They don't like faith they take to biscuit Land.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, because this is this is full biscuit And they

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Speaker 8: even start off and face it's like, I guess it

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Speaker 8: will be nice, and it stills like, oh this is funky,

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Speaker 8: well could care.

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Speaker 3: But they never take behind Blue Eyes.

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Speaker 4: To biscuit Land, yeah, which I thought was pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, I love this song when it came out.

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Speaker 5: This is a great cover.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, when it.

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Speaker 4: Comes to covert, yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess it will

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Speaker 4: be nice. Nimba, I couldn't touch some ud.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome. Let's do uh Bruce Springsteen?

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Speaker 5: Wait, Bruce Springsteen the Light? Oh yeah, blinded by the Light. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's an old one from Bruce.

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Speaker 5: What that's you two?

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Speaker 4: here goes? Oh my god, it is that song?

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Speaker 3: I think it's them. I don't think it's Willy. That's crazy.

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Speaker 5: You like that, mic, I do like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess patch up boys aren't my thing. And

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Speaker 3: Like he did Coolio hid Gangster's.

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Speaker 2: It was like, but you you're not old enough to

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Speaker 6: No, I probably came a little bit later than what

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Speaker 4: Have you seen the movie? No You Good?

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Speaker 2: Did you ever watch Don't Stop Superstar and Whatever with

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Speaker 3: What were we saying?

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Speaker 5: Oh, oh, the the Jerky Boys? Was the Prince Boys?

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Speaker 4: That was a later version of Yeah that's yeah No Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Eat it, eat it and just eat it.

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Speaker 4: Weird.

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Speaker 3: That was awesome.

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Speaker 5: All the artists hated him, probably he was using.

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Speaker 2: They felt like he was making fun of them right,

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Speaker 4: He would still get their permission even though he didn't

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Speaker 3: Did I make that up?

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Speaker 4: That sounds right. I feel like he was in an

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Speaker 2: I brought that that was me. I did an interview

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Speaker 5: You interviewed weird well and then you asked him that well.

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Speaker 2: I was just talking about, like, what does his parents

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Speaker 4: Let me see this weird awl, good job bones. No

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Speaker 3: They passed away in their home.

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Speaker 4: They started a fire in the fireplace with the flu

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Speaker 5: He bones, you just started a fire with the flume

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Speaker 4: I know he played a concert that same night, did

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Speaker 4: maybe it'll work for me as well. Did the show you.

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Speaker 2: See Pete Davidson's that gets those two confusing. Pete Davidson's

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Speaker 2: No? The intro was him going because all this stuff

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Speaker 2: the show is because sometimes I feel like laughter is

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Speaker 3: Times are hard. Dang his dad dynamic in nine to eleven?

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Speaker 5: Did they talk about that in Staten Island? The King

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if I watched that.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's not that good.

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Speaker 4: He hasn't really had success in movies yet. They always

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Speaker 3: Pete Davidson, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Even commercials like the Taco bell commercial.

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Speaker 4: Pete Davidson and Hamburg they're similar.

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Speaker 2: They're just tall, funny white guys, goofy, goofy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I like both of them. But in Sanbury got older.

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Speaker 3: Huh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's probably like ten years older, though maybe just didn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're both funny that never stopped pop popping stopping

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Speaker 2: as the heck, I love that movie.

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Speaker 5: I've never seen that pop Star.

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Speaker 3: You never watched pop Star?

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Speaker 4: We all watched it, inter rebuted on the Potot.

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Speaker 5: You've seen it, Eddie, Well, I don't think I saw it.

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Speaker 2: It's a spoof of those documentaries. But it's also like

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Speaker 2: see God it's so good, it's so funny.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's it.

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Speaker 2: We'll do this and we will come back in a

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Speaker 2: second and we'll talk with one of my favorite guys

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Speaker 4: Wow, and we're back on the Bobby Cast. Rob.

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Speaker 3: How are you, buddy?

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Speaker 1: I am excellent. It's great to see you again. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you too, And for having me on.

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Speaker 2: I'll say that I'm I'm super pumped at you're back.

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Speaker 2: Like this is one of my favorite podcasts, and I

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Speaker 2: I've listened to every single episode. I think I saw

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Speaker 2: I'm doing this podcast about songs in the nineties and

453
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Speaker 2: you had done maybe eight or nine episodes, and I

454
00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,800
Speaker 2: know you and I have spoken. I've guessed it on

455
00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,200
Speaker 2: the show when Weezer was the.

456
00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,119
Speaker 1: Weezer Yeah, so so it was this buddy, how I

457
00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,840
Speaker 1: forget what it was? Any Weezer song works.

458
00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,240
Speaker 2: Really yeah, And you know what you do that's so

459
00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,560
Speaker 2: great is that it doesn't really matter the song because

460
00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:19,639
Speaker 2: that's not what it's about.

461
00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,920
Speaker 4: It is, but it's not I mean yeah, yeah.

462
00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,640
Speaker 2: The For example, I learned so much from the Chumblewamba

463
00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,600
Speaker 2: episode because for those that don't remember, they had really

464
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,120
Speaker 2: one song, this song that goes.

465
00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:33,840
Speaker 3: I get knocked down and not get up again.

466
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Speaker 2: I had no idea they were basically anarchists and the

467
00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,240
Speaker 2: whole story of that band. So when you're doing a

468
00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,680
Speaker 2: story on chumblewam but did you already know? What did

469
00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:44,439
Speaker 2: you learn about them?

470
00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:44,920
Speaker 3: That was new?

471
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Speaker 1: Tumblewamba was somebody I didn't they I didn't have a

472
00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,560
Speaker 1: lot of experience with them. I knew that they were

473
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Speaker 1: anarchists vaguely. I knew that they had like a daunting

474
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,680
Speaker 1: back catalog prior to tub something but I didn't know

475
00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,280
Speaker 1: how daunting exactly. It's like twelve of records or something like.

476
00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,640
Speaker 1: That was a lot of Chumblewamba that I packed into

477
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,120
Speaker 1: a week, you know. Chumblewomba week was a really intense

478
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,919
Speaker 1: week for me. Sometimes, I know, like a ton something

479
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 1: like nine Inch Nails, like the Downward Spiral. I listened

480
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,480
Speaker 1: to that album like six thousand times when I was

481
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 1: in high school. I never need to hear that album

482
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,119
Speaker 1: again because it's just playing in my head on a

483
00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,400
Speaker 1: loop in the backgrounds regardless, like I can, I can

484
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 1: recreate every single second of that record. Chumblewomba I had

485
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 1: way less experience with, and that was a lot to

486
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 1: deal with. But it's also rewarding, you know, so to learn,

487
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,400
Speaker 1: you know, the backstories of just these these they feel

488
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 1: to us like random one hit wonders. It feels like

489
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,880
Speaker 1: they drop down to Earth out of nowhere. But they

490
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 1: have this long, thorny, bizarre history, prehistory before they become famous,

491
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,400
Speaker 1: and that's gratifying to sort of delve into that.

492
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Speaker 2: That, to me, is what was amazing about chumblewomb But

493
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 2: I thought maybe Simon cow put them together in the

494
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,359
Speaker 2: nineties and they had a song and they went away.

495
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 3: But listening do you talk about them?

496
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:06,120
Speaker 2: And by the way, how would you describe their Can

497
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 2: we say anarchists and I don't think I would even

498
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,439
Speaker 2: I know what anarchy is. But musically, what do you

499
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 2: think they stood for as anarchists?

500
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 1: They really did walk the walk, you know. The first

501
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,679
Speaker 1: record they put out was it was called something like

502
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 1: Pictures of Starving Children Sell Records, and it was like

503
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 1: an anti Live Aid screed, right nineteen eighty five. Live Aid,

504
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 1: you know, it raises a lot of money for Africa,

505
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 1: but they just found it pompous and self serving and

506
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 1: they were sort of taking the piss out of rock stars.

507
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 1: You know, it's just just swooping in to save you know,

508
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,479
Speaker 1: other countries. You know, just the pompousness of that. You know,

509
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 1: since the mid eighties, they'd been at it, and they

510
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 1: lived in squats, you know in the UK, you know,

511
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,360
Speaker 1: like they they lived collectively, you know, and they put

512
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,919
Speaker 1: out records on their own. But as the you know,

513
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: as their discography grinds on on, they become poppier and poppier,

514
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 1: and they become more invested in this idea of like

515
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 1: raging against the machine from inside the machine. Right, they

516
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 1: decide that they want to make a pop song so

517
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 1: insidious that it gets played on the radio that they

518
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,199
Speaker 1: become pop stars. But then you know, they can spread

519
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,120
Speaker 1: their anarchist ideology, you know, to the masses, and that

520
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 1: kind of works with tough thumbing, and it kind of doesn't.

521
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 2: Work because they got so popular. That song was so

522
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,360
Speaker 2: popular they got a record deal. A lot of people

523
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 2: were looking at them like, hey, you guys sold out

524
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,959
Speaker 2: and got a record deal, but they were like no, no, no,

525
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 2: we sold in like we tricked them. So my final

526
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 2: question about Chumbawamba, because I was just so enthralled by

527
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 2: this whole episode, is that what do you feel like

528
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 2: they were up to. Do you feel like they finally

529
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 2: were like, man, we sure just could use some money.

530
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 1: That's got to be part of it. You know, they're

531
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 1: not saints, you know, nobody's intentions are totally pure. But

532
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: I do think that looking into it, like they they

533
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: believed it right, you know. And and a remember of Chumblewamba,

534
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 1: I think it's Alice Nutter goes on Bill Maher, you know,

535
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: his talk show at the time, and it's like, you

536
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: should steal our record, you know, and everybody gets mad

537
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 1: at her, But I do think it's always a little suspect,

538
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 1: you know, when people decide they want to be pop stars,

539
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: but they want to be pop stars for the right reasons.

540
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 1: You know, they're doing it subversively, you know, and the

541
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: money is just a bonus. But really, I'm just trying

542
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: to do this and this like they're lying to some extent.

543
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: They do enjoy the attention, the fame, and the money

544
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 1: to an extent, But I do believe that there was

545
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 1: a purity to Chumblewumba that transcends, and that's what makes

546
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: it sort of funny and discordant that, like, that song

547
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: is now a jock jam, right, You're going to hear

548
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,959
Speaker 1: that song at every sporting event you attend for the

549
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 1: rest of your life. It's a drinking song, it's explicitly

550
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 1: a drinking song. But just the difference between where they

551
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: came from and where they ended up, the dissonance of

552
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 1: that is a little hard to wrap your head around.

553
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: But it's fascinating to me.

554
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 4: At the most capitalist event where they sell beers for

555
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 4: fe fourteen dollars, you'll hear Jumble at the of anarchist singing.

556
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 3: So that episode a little bit of your history.

557
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 2: You've written for a lot of different things when you

558
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: finish college, Like what is your first paid job?

559
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 3: Where do they pay you first to write?

560
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: They pay me first to write at the other paper

561
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: in Columbus, Ohio, I got started an alternative weeklies, right,

562
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: weekly newspapers you know, sold for free, not sold just

563
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: free on corner boxes or on top of the cigarette

564
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: machines in concert venues. Right. And the difference between an

565
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: alternative weekly and like the regular newspapers, you can swear

566
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 1: in a weekly, and that's very important. That was very

567
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: dear to my heart at the time. But I worked

568
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: at one in Columbus, Ohio. I grew up mostly in Ohio.

569
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: I worked at a weekly in Oakland, California. I was

570
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 1: at the it was in New York City for a while.

571
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: I worked for the Village Voice for a while. And

572
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: some of those papers still exist, that most of them, don't,

573
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: you know, There are still some weeklies, but not many,

574
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: you know, the Internet sort of decimated them, craigs, et cetera.

575
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: And so it's weird, Like my path technically still exists,

576
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: but it is far less robust than it was when

577
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: I was coming up, you know, And I don't know

578
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 1: if there's any guarantee it'll still exist even five ten

579
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: years from now, but I remember it fun.

580
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 3: Was it always music.

581
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 1: It was from the very beginning, you know. I from

582
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: sitting in my orthodonist's office getting my braces on. You know,

583
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: when I was twelve, thirteen, fourteen years old, I wanted

584
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: to write for Rolling Stone. He had back issues of

585
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 1: Rolling Stone in his office and I would just sit

586
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: there and read them in his waiting room, and that's

587
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: what I wanted to do. I went to school for

588
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 1: magazine journalism. Told anyone would listen, I want. I wanted

589
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: to write for Rolling Stone. I wanted to write about music,

590
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 1: you know, and I got one attitude, which is great.

591
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: I think that I think I did.

592
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 2: Okay, you add an episode on Natalie and Brule a

593
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 2: torn Yeah, had no idea the still lot.

594
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, the still back of that song.

595
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 2: So that torn that the song in general, and I

596
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: want to I just want to do a quick version

597
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 2: of this.

598
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 3: It's hard to do because it was so good.

599
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: And I encourage you guys to go look up sixty

600
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 2: songs and explain the nineties. Listen to the Chumble Blaba,

601
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 2: listen to the Natalie Ambrulia. It's kind of like when

602
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 2: I tell people to start Black Mirror, I'm like, go

603
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 2: to White Bear first, even though it's like episode, Like,

604
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 2: go to White Bear and if that's your jam, you're.

605
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 3: Gonna love it all.

606
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 2: I feel like those are the two if you listen

607
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,959
Speaker 2: to those and you love them, right, So give us

608
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: the quick version of torn in your best way, Rob.

609
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, so two, Holy moly.

610
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 4: It was just in so many languages too.

611
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 2: I had no idea this song was saying in so

612
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: many languages, and it was a hit by so many people.

613
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 1: It was a hit by so many Yes, it's aband

614
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: in La. Two people in aband In La wrote it

615
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: with a dude who had been in the Cure. He

616
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: was a bass player for the Cure for a little while.

617
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: They write this song, they demo it, but it ends

618
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: up first it was Denmark.

619
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 4: Yeah it's been song.

620
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: No, I'm telling you. It was a European language. I

621
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 2: didn't even know what it was, right. And then Natalie

622
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 2: Imbruglia is this like she's a model, she's a singing

623
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 2: and it's her only hit ever as well, but the

624
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: song is.

625
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: Soap opera star in Australia. Yeah, and it's like the

626
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: third or fourth version of the song. There was a

627
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: Danish version, you know, and then the La band itself

628
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: cut it and that version is great, you know, and

629
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: then somebody else. Yeah, it's three or four people got

630
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: to Torn before she did, but she found something in

631
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: Torn that had never been there before, and she somehow

632
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: turned it into this massive pop hit. And that's sort

633
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: of fascinating when it takes a few times. You know,

634
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: there's a version of achy Breaky Heart before the Billy

635
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: Ray Cyrus version that didn't do anything, you know, and

636
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: Billy Ray's version is superior, but it's not like that superior, right.

637
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: I'm always fascinated by this idea that it takes several

638
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: iterations of a song and several different people singing a

639
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: song before it becomes a hit, And like, why is

640
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: this version the definitive you know, millions billions of plays version.

641
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 2: Did you ever write an article or a critique and

642
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 2: actually get a call or a message from the artist

643
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: you wrote the critique about and it wasn't positive?

644
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: I wrote, excuse me? I wrote like six thousand words

645
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: about Summer Girls by LFO. This predates the podcast by

646
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: a couple of years, but I you know, that's a

647
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: weird history and there's a lot of tragedy there. A

648
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: couple members of that band have passed away, and I

649
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: think I talked to one surviving member of LFO and

650
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: he was displeased, you know, with what came out. I think,

651
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: because I don't want to look down on these songs ever,

652
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: you know, even the achy breaky Hearts, you know, even

653
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: the Macarenas of the world. Like I love them and

654
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,479
Speaker 1: I try and find the good in them, even if

655
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: people are sick of them. I think the problem with

656
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: these songs most often is that they've been overplayed so

657
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: much that people are sick of them. It's not that

658
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: the song is bad, that the song has just been

659
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: worn out by over you. And that's not necessarily the

660
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: case with Summer Girls. But like I just I tried

661
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: to write a playful article, you know, that got into

662
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: the Abercrombie and Fitch of it all, you know, and

663
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: the White Rapper of it all, et cetera, like that,

664
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: it's just such a silly song. And the verses of

665
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,479
Speaker 1: this song are just so bizarre and so not They're

666
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,719
Speaker 1: just a bunch of non sequiteurs. And I it's always

667
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: a drag when I get feedback like that, And thankfully

668
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: it hasn't happened often, but it did happen in this case,

669
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: you know, where he just he wasn't happy. He felt

670
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: it was disrespectful, you know, And of course that's his legacy,

671
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: that's his song, and I completely understand that, you know.

672
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: And I was raised, born, raised in the Midwest, and

673
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: I feel bad when that happens, truly, because I'm not

674
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: trying to disrespect or look down on these songs ever,

675
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: Like I'm trying to have fun with it, but I'm

676
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: trying to be I'm trying to honor, you know, the

677
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: greatness of the song and in its place and history.

678
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: What about the opposite way you ever written one a

679
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 2: glowing review and you got an appreciation note.

680
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: The weirdest thing that's happened to me in the podcast

681
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: so far is that Courtney Love reached out to me.

682
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: Great interview.

683
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 4: I did a whole great interview, thank you.

684
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: You know, it's I don't know if interview even describes

685
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: what happened there. You know. You just let Courtney Love

686
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: cook right like, I'm there and I'm sort of talking

687
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: to her and she's talking to me. But yeah, you

688
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: don't want to hear from me when it's me and

689
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: Courtney Love talking. You just want her to talk. And

690
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: that's what happened there, and that was great. But yeah,

691
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: I did an episode on Whole, right, I did an

692
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: episode on doll Parts, you know, and somebody passed that

693
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: to her and she reached out and you know, and

694
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: we talked a little bit, and I asked her if

695
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: she wanted to be on the show. And I didn't

696
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: hear anything for a while, but then suddenly she's asking

697
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: if she can do the smells like teen Spirit episode,

698
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: the Nirvana episode. And not in a billion years would

699
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: I have asked her ever to do that, right. It's

700
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: it's so personal, you know, in such an anguished history

701
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: ultimately that I never would have asked her to revisit that,

702
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: you know, even playfully. But she wanted to talk about it,

703
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: and we talked for like an hour and a half,

704
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: you know, on Mike about it. And that's for sure

705
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: the wildest experience I've had, you know, with somebody I've

706
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: talked about reaching out to me. And I always try

707
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: and remember when I'm talking about somebody that they are

708
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: a real person, you know, and as abstracted as these

709
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: people were to me when I was a teenager, Billy Corgan,

710
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: Trent Rezner, you know, We's er whoever. Like they were

711
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: gods to me, you know, and they didn't seem like

712
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: real people to me, but they are, you know, And

713
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 1: it is theoretically possible that they could reach out, you know,

714
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: and tap my shoulder, and I always want to be

715
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: mindful of that.

716
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 9: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the

717
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 9: Bobby Cast, this idea. And by the way, where over

718
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 9: sixty songs? Now for those asking they're like, well, how

719
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 9: do you pick sixty?

720
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: Well? Now is that?

721
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: Like? I don't even know what number you're on, but

722
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: you kept going, which I thought was brilliant.

723
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 3: I loved it.

724
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: First of all, how did how did you start this?

725
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: Where the idea come from? And why sixty? And then

726
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: was there a meeting where it's like, all right, should.

727
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 4: We do more? Can we afford more? Like what happened there?

728
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: This was? It was in twenty twenty. This was a

729
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: COVID era project, you know, And it's not like COVID

730
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: comes up a lot, but I do think that that's important, right,

731
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: Like in the summer of twenty twenty we're like, I

732
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: want to do a podcast. I want to do a

733
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: podcast that's based on songs. You know, what's a good

734
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: orienting principle there. The nineties just sort of leaped out

735
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: at us. You know, it's like a distinct. You know,

736
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: when you say the nineties, people have a picture in

737
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: their heads of what that was, whether they lived through

738
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: it or not. And I was really interested in interrogating

739
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: the dissonance between the nineties as I lived through them

740
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: and the nineties as people understand them now. You know,

741
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: the myth of the nineties versus the reality is I

742
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: remember it, and so I Nineties songs that explained the

743
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: nineties would have made a lot more sense. But that

744
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: seemed like too many songs to me in the moment,

745
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: and I wasn't sure if the show was going to work.

746
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be the guy with a show

747
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: called ninety Songs that explained the nineties and then I

748
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: get canceled after like the fourth episode, right, Like that

749
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: would be very embarrassing. Sixty songs also a lot of songs,

750
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: you know, but like we've like thirty songs. That's too

751
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: few songs, Like we just arbitrarily decided on sixty. And

752
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: when we got to around forty or forty five and

753
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this spreadsheet we've created of all the

754
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: songs that we could do, I'm like, oh no, look

755
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: at all these songs we want to do. We have

756
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: fifteen more spots. And that's when I have to go

757
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: to my editors and be like, can we please do

758
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: more songs? And they say yes, and I do ninety

759
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: and then we get to you know, seventy seventy five

760
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: songs and I'm like, oh no, there's still too many,

761
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: so like and I have to go back again and say,

762
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: can we do one twenties? Like this is it? And

763
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: I'm like okay, and that's you know, and we kept

764
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: jumping up. By thirty when we realized that we still,

765
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: you know, there's so many stories I want to tell

766
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: and so many songs I want to revisit, you know,

767
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: and it just it just kept building and building. This

768
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: is going to be it. Though one hundred and twenty songs.

769
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: You know, you don't want to go too far. I

770
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: don't want to start doing like super obscure and sort

771
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: of I'm reaching, you know, for something to talk about.

772
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: But I one hundred and twenty songs comfortably is what

773
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: you know this format can support. And I'm still having

774
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: a blast, you know. I think I'm working right now

775
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: on it's either one hundred and six or one hundred

776
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: and seven, you know, and I still feel as fresh

777
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: as I did when we started.

778
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about doing the series every song ever recorded

779
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 2: in the nineties. I do everyone song ever recorded, and

780
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 2: I go to studio and I talk about it and

781
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 2: break it down, really to overtake you as the most.

782
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: You better start now, yeah, kind of go, that's your plan. Yeah.

783
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: Hey, my wife has convinced that Dave Girl murder Kurt Cobain,

784
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: and not because she knows. It's because TikTok has these

785
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: conspiracy theories about artists from the nineties, and we went

786
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 2: and watched Two Fighters a few weeks ago, and they're

787
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 2: for her a little aggressive. She enjoyed Fallout Boy way

788
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 2: more than she did Food Fighters. But she's like, that's

789
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: the guy who that's the guy who killed Kurt Cobain.

790
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's not true.

791
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 1: But I've never heard that one.

792
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: Oh, get on TikTok. It's a whole it's a whole

793
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 2: lane there of White Girl, one of them dead. Because

794
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 2: he wanted to be the star, which is totally false,

795
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 2: totally inaccurate.

796
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 3: But of course that woo.

797
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: The Nirvana relationship between those three guys, but also there

798
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 2: was kind of a fourth member, but also there were

799
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 2: like six drummers. So but we just really remember those three.

800
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: Is that because that's when the never even before Pat smear?

801
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 2: Is it just because the never Mind album? That's the

802
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 2: three because they that's the album?

803
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: Of course, Yeah, I mean it's hard to say. It's

804
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: hard to refute the idea that the nineties start with

805
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: smells like teen Spirit, Right, the nineties start, you know

806
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety one, when that song comes out and

807
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: blows up and totally changes MTV and totally changes rock radio,

808
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: and that it sort of sets the template for the nineties.

809
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: And those are the three guys at that point, you know,

810
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: the prehistory of Nirvana. Yeah, there's another drummer, there's a

811
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: second guitarist for a while, you know, Dave Grohl's not

812
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: on Bleach their first record, But that's the definitive lineup

813
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: of Nirvana and Pat Smeir, you know, coming from the Germs,

814
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: has got a ton of cred. Everybody loves him, you know,

815
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: and to have him up on stage in the latter

816
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: period of the band, to have him just standing next

817
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: to Kirk Cobain, and that passing of the torch is

818
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: very important. But no, definitively Nirvana is those three guys.

819
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 1: It's Dave, Christ and purd of course, And I think

820
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: that's always the way it works. You know, you remember

821
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: you remember the band from the first you know, the

822
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: first song you ever heard from them. The first album

823
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: that you hear is usually the one you love the most,

824
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: and the first lineup too, like it just sets in

825
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: your head like this is this is what Nirvana is.

826
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: And I think that's true for the world at large

827
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: at this point.

828
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 3: Who's your favorite band of all time?

829
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 4: Wow?

830
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: Who's my favorite band of all time? Artists answer to that?

831
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 1: Or he might be Giants Love.

832
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 3: That's a really good episode, really good, great thank you.

833
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 2: And you know it's funny how because I was introduced

834
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: to them different than you were, and you referenced this

835
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 2: in the episode.

836
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: I was introduced to them from Tiny Tunes of course.

837
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: Of course it's stable Constant, yeah, or the wrestling one,

838
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 2: you know, whether it's like Triangleman Particle, Man Particle.

839
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 4: That's how I.

840
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: Found they might be giants, and so through your favorite

841
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 2: of all time?

842
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 4: What about them? Where did you discover them?

843
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: My cool uncle Nick first played Particle Man for me.

844
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: I heard about them a little bit before Tiny Toon Adventures,

845
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: but not very not very long before. I was like

846
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: twelve years old when that record when Flood came out,

847
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: you know, and I was like a weird kid, you know,

848
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: I was what you would call a nerd, I guess

849
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety, you know, and I sort of grew

850
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: up on like what like Pee Wee Herman, you know,

851
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: like the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, you know, Saturday

852
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: Morning cartoons, Looney Tunes, you know, this whole, this whole

853
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: like weird al yankubc of course, you know, like this

854
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: very playful and silly aesthetic. And I just they spoke

855
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: to me immediately they might be giants as like playful

856
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: and silly, but also like hugely accomplished, you know, and

857
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: just so prolific and so great at what they did

858
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: and so comfortable in themselves. I think when you're twelve

859
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 1: years old, you see people who are doing what they

860
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: want to do and being who they want to be,

861
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: and not really carrying how they're perceived by the outside world,

862
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: Like this isn't Nirvana, right, These guys aren't, you know,

863
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: tough burly rock guys. You know, they're not afraid to

864
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: be silly, They're not afraid to be playful, They're not

865
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: afraid to be irreverend, you know. And that really spoke

866
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: to me when I was twelve, and now I've grown

867
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: up with them. Right, they went through a period where

868
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: they had they made kids albums when they had kids themselves,

869
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: and then I'd play those albums to my kids.

870
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 8: You know.

871
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 1: It's just I've seen them probably twelve to fifteen times

872
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: in my life. It's just been the most rewarding musical relationship,

873
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: you know, of my life, in that I'm sort of

874
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: growing up parallel to them. I love that.

875
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 2: I think that's why I love the Presidents America.

876
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 3: Like love the Presidents.

877
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 2: Listen to everyone all the records, and then also even

878
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 2: Barnaked Ladies early and they still do some of that nolory.

879
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Speaker 2: Those were kind of the same reasons that I love

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Speaker 2: those guys because it was a great music. Obviously, there's

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Speaker 2: also fun and goofy and kitchy, and so how do

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Speaker 2: you do a book on this because the book is

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Speaker 2: out in November fourteenth, you can pre order now, you

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Speaker 2: can get a signed book plate. Still as of we're

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Speaker 2: recording this right now. But what's what in the heck

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Speaker 2: is the book? Like, what's in it?

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Speaker 1: What I love about the book? You know, it's based

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Speaker 1: on the scripts that I record for the episodes, Like

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Speaker 1: I write these episodes out, you know, down to the word,

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Speaker 1: and so I have a lot of source material. And

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Speaker 1: what I wanted to do with the book is get

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Speaker 1: these songs interacting with each other. Right, you think about

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Speaker 1: the idea of sellouts so prevalent in the nineties, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, this this idea of signing to a major

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Speaker 1: label or being on MTV or playing on Saturday Night

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Speaker 1: Live like you were selling out, like Green Day's accused

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00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: of selling out, et cetera. But that idea can also

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Speaker 1: apply to rappers, you know, like ice Cube or Doctor

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Speaker 1: Dre or Coolio suddenly getting famous like in suburban Middle America.

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Speaker 1: Suddenly they have this huge pop audience of white kids

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00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: who have no experience, you know with living and central LA.

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00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: And that's those those rappers really worried about their audience,

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Speaker 1: about the idea of selling out and going pop, and

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Speaker 1: so I wanted to get these songs and these ideas

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Speaker 1: sort of bouncing off each other. And some of it's personal,

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Speaker 1: you know. I can put Celine, Dion and Whole right

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Speaker 1: next to each other for personal reasons, just the way

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Speaker 1: that I heard them in high school, just the way

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Speaker 1: that my friends brought me this music. You know. There's

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Speaker 1: a personal element to the book that's supposed to just

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Speaker 1: get you, the reader, thinking about your own personal relationships

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Speaker 1: and these weird confluences you have of different artists and genres,

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Speaker 1: you know, But it's it's as much about you know,

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Speaker 1: every episode of the show is about one song, one artist,

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Speaker 1: and I bring in a lot of other things ideally,

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Speaker 1: but I just wanted to get these songs talking to

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Speaker 1: each other, across the genres, across the years, you know,

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Speaker 1: across my personal experiences, and across you know, just the

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Speaker 1: sociopolitical notion of the nineties and the way the way

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Speaker 1: we lived it is different from the way we remember

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Speaker 1: it now.

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Speaker 2: I read the book The Nineties from Duck Klosterman Chuck Closterman,

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Speaker 2: who I've read almost everything he's ever written. I love

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Speaker 2: Chuck Closterman like like Bill Simmons and Chuck Closterman to

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Speaker 2: me are culture people who who kind of talk for me,

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Speaker 2: you know, and they say things often that I'm like, dang,

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Speaker 2: I've felt that.

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Speaker 4: I wish I could have said that.

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Speaker 1: You know, but relatable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so, I guess us being you know, big

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Speaker 2: nineties kids. It all obviously hits a little different anyway.

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Speaker 2: But so here's the deal. Sixty Songs that Explain the

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Speaker 2: Nineties are their pictures in the book, though.

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Speaker 1: There are there are illustrations. There are awesome illustrations and

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Speaker 1: an illustrator named Tara Jacobe. I'm so excited about them.

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Speaker 3: I need them.

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Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite parts of the book.

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Speaker 3: I need them. I need them.

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Speaker 2: You guys go follow Rob on Instagram. Rob Harvilla also

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Speaker 2: every Wednesday on Spotify new episodes of sixty Songs that

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Speaker 2: Explain the Nineties. And we had an announcement today's doing

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Speaker 2: ten thousand episodes. So this is crazy. We'd love it.

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Speaker 2: We're very excited.

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Speaker 1: Just five thousand, that's slow down, five thousand plenty.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, congratulations on the book. You guys go to

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Speaker 2: Rob's Instagram or at Harvilla on Twitter. You can find

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Speaker 2: all the links there. We'll post it as well, but

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Speaker 2: sixty songs that explain the nineties. The book out Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: November fourteenth. You can pre order now and get that

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Speaker 2: signed book plate, or you listen to the podcast, or

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Speaker 2: do them both like I do.

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Speaker 3: All right, Rob, good to talk to you, buddy. Appreciate

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Speaker 3: the time.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, man.

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Speaker 9: It's an honor, all right, there is thanks for listening

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Speaker 9: to a Bobby Cast production.