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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Let's take some calls for you, Thomas and La Joya, California.

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Speaker 1: You're on with Nick Baggage. Tom, Hi, George, thank you

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Speaker 1: for accepting. Mike called Nick. It's always always such a

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Speaker 1: pleasure to hear your interviews and coast comment and then

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Speaker 1: a question. In my opinion, it seems that we are

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Speaker 1: preparing for a Arctic circle Cold war. And it seems

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Speaker 1: like if you look at a globe and you look

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Speaker 1: down upon the North Pole, you'll see northern Canada, Alaska, Siberia, Scandinavia, Iceland, Greenland, etc.

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Speaker 1: And it seems like there's this I call it an

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Speaker 1: Arctic circle cold war. That it's under the radar. That

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Speaker 1: is right, it's but it's not under the radar. It's

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Speaker 1: under what used to be the Dow line, which was

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Speaker 1: the radar. We've been in that cold war since the

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Speaker 1: end of World War Two. Here we've had jets coming

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Speaker 1: into our airspace for this whole time. I grew up

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Speaker 1: next to elmand or if he's scrambled the jets all

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Speaker 1: the time. We had a Nike missile side. All this

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Speaker 1: underground stuff right outside of Anchorashure still there. You know,

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Speaker 1: all this is because this is strategic, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: And when you look at the Arctic, Arctic is twenty

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Speaker 1: five percent of undiscovered hydrocarbons. Look at what saw. Everything

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Speaker 1: north of the Brooks Range in Alaska is an oil basin,

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Speaker 1: an oil basin, ladies and gentlemen. And they in the

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Speaker 1: Northwest Passage is opening up and they're moving freight through

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Speaker 1: that because it's it's easier and it's faster, and it's

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Speaker 1: cheaper than the Panama Canal. And that's what they're doing

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Speaker 1: as as Arctic ice moves out, and it is and

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Speaker 1: it's diminishing every year, and it is and it has

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Speaker 1: been actually for twelve thousand years, because where I'm standing

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Speaker 1: right now, only four thousand years ago there were six

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Speaker 1: thousand feet of ice. That's not very long ago. So

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Speaker 1: you know, global warring has been happening. The Arctic is definitely.

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Speaker 1: The Chinese have made their presence known. Finally they're building

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Speaker 1: some ice breakers, but I'll let you know something about that.

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Speaker 1: Because of the Jones Act and because of the maritime

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Speaker 1: industry and the shipbuilders, what we have is a situation

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Speaker 1: where China can build ice breakers for about fifteen twenty cents,

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Speaker 1: not not even that, probably a dime on the dollar

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Speaker 1: or less. And so what we're competing with is, you know,

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Speaker 1: people say, well, they're only spending you know, a you know,

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Speaker 1: a sixty eighty one hundred billion maybe on military and

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Speaker 1: we kind of laugh and snicker. Well, when you get

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Speaker 1: ten to fifteen times more, it matters, you know. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're moving in the Arctic, and they have a deal

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Speaker 1: with Russia because Russia has got a declining population and

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Speaker 1: Russia is not our enemy. I would I would say

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Speaker 1: that real loud, the people to watch is China because

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Speaker 1: philosophically where they're at is way different. And I spend

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Speaker 1: a lot of time in different parts of Russia and

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Speaker 1: the Old Republics, and it's not so well reported at

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Speaker 1: reported on any Tom had a question for you too, Nick,

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Tom, Yes, wow, you've really answered that very well.

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Speaker 1: Do you see in the next twenty years that things

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Speaker 1: will be heating up between China, Russian Federation, the United States, Canada,

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Speaker 1: European Union? And it seems I'll give you an example, Nick.

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Speaker 1: You know, we think of harp as aimed to the

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Speaker 1: southern to the south. But I've often felt like maybe

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Speaker 1: HARP was aimed to the North Pole and to that

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Speaker 1: Arctic Circle region and anyway, right now, that's all right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's exactly right, because you want to intersect the magnetic

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Speaker 1: lines for certain applications in the north because then you

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Speaker 1: use them as wave guides, and the energy is it's

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Speaker 1: likely trying to residences creates kind of creates a court

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Speaker 1: screwing effect. It flows from north to south, that creates

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Speaker 1: a shield for intercontinentabilistic missiles or maybe UFOs or maybe

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Speaker 1: something else, you know. And in China built built tum

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Speaker 1: and Russia has would yet Russia pioneered. These are the

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Speaker 1: old Soviet Union, and everyone has developed some aspect of

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Speaker 1: this technology. Now, the thing about it is there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of ways to get there. It's not just with

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Speaker 1: these facilities. And the thing about HARP as a technology

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Speaker 1: is it was like for me kind of the gateway

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Speaker 1: one that I looked at, and then from there you

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Speaker 1: kind of are not this sweater of technology and you

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Speaker 1: realize that it was again a grain of sand on

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Speaker 1: the beach of bad news and certain respects and in

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Speaker 1: another's interesting science and Ben Eastlan the inventor. You know,

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Speaker 1: he saw it as a two edged situation and he

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Speaker 1: was right, and I knew Bett he was a good guy.

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Speaker 1: But you know, military doesn't always do what you think

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Speaker 1: they're going to do with what you invent. That's been

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Speaker 1: sort of the way it goes. I'm sure the Right

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Speaker 1: brothers we're figuring on dropping bombs out of their planes initially,

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Speaker 1: but you know, things happen, and with all technologies are

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Speaker 1: two edged. You know, they can make us a better world,

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Speaker 1: or they're used for other purposes. And this is what

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Speaker 1: the problem has become. When you start to look at

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Speaker 1: what makes countries powerful today, it's their technology ultimately, and

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Speaker 1: so governance that means you better know something and you

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Speaker 1: better have it widely reported accurately, and it's not being reported.

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Speaker 1: The things that are the most important for the twenty

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Speaker 1: first century. Our Congress doesn't understand and most of the

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Speaker 1: public doesn't either. And how these things connect together we

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Speaker 1: don't understand well either, because we compartmentalize everything and the

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Speaker 1: way the USSR kept up His first paper ever didn't

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Speaker 1: sign so I was nineteen years old, and it was

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Speaker 1: on the contrast of Russian versus Western preamily American compartmentalization

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Speaker 1: versus Russian or USSR at that time generalization. They put

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Speaker 1: everyone together in the sciences in other areas to cross

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Speaker 1: fertilized and come up with creative ideas. That's how they

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