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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two eighty nine,

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Speaker 1: Episode three of day production of iHeartRadio. This is a

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Speaker 1: podcast where we take a deep dive into America share consciousness.

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Speaker 1: And it is Thursday, June first, twenty twenty three, Gemini Season,

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Speaker 1: Gemini Season.

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Speaker 2: Get those what as they say, like split personalities that

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Speaker 2: thinks seminis.

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Speaker 1: You got two you got two sides?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: Also, hey Jack, just want to say looking great today

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Speaker 2: because it's National Say Something Nice Day. It's also National

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Speaker 2: hazel Nutcake Day. It's Global Day of Parents. Shout out

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Speaker 2: all the parents out there. And also for me, National

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Speaker 2: gold barefoot Day because I seldom wear shoes unless I

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Speaker 2: have to. World Reef Awareness Day, World Milk Day, pen

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Speaker 2: Pal Day, Nail Polish Day, Heimlich Maneuver Day.

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Speaker 1: It all happened. Shout out to the Heimlich Maneuver. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a that's a good I don't remember if it

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Speaker 1: was Radio Lab or This American Life, but it was

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Speaker 1: like one of those good formative podcasts. Not taking podcasts

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Speaker 1: with they like run through the history of the Heimlich maneuver.

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Speaker 1: And it was like, yeah, man, people when they choke,

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Speaker 1: when they were choking in a restaurant before you were

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Speaker 1: just like there you go, guy, I guess. And then

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Speaker 1: like the Heimlich thing came in like mid twentieth century

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Speaker 1: or so, and I think into like the sixties seventies era,

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Speaker 1: and and then he was like on the all the

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Speaker 1: late night shows and stuff being like, guys, this is

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Speaker 1: going to save so many lives, and sure enough, but

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Speaker 1: then you kind of let the power God destroy him. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: by the way, really, I know, do you believe it?

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Speaker 1: Gemini season starts May twenty first, Okay, end's June twenty first,

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Speaker 1: So we've been in.

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Speaker 2: We've been in it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I thought about all the Gemini. It is the

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Speaker 1: my attraction to the number of geminis that the world

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Speaker 1: throws in my life. That is the one thing that

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Speaker 1: makes me believe him.

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Speaker 2: The last few people that I dated were yet then

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Speaker 2: the Gemini can zone like it's these next, because cancer's

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Speaker 2: next right after? I think, so, yeah, I think that's right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yo, Leo, which is name, My name's Jack O'Brien aka.

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Speaker 1: I have to build a damn Kazama beaver. A beaver

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Speaker 1: is courtesy a yobro on the discord who said, heard

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Speaker 1: the guys talking about making up words for kids songs

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Speaker 1: in the intro today, my eight year old recently came

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Speaker 1: up with this to the tune of Imagine Dragon's Believer,

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Speaker 1: which is, by the way, the most popular song with

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Speaker 1: children in that age range. Like my five and seven

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Speaker 1: year old are real dragonheads, imagine heads. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what they're called, but anyways, Yeah, so shout out to you.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to the young weird al yank vicks out there.

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Speaker 1: My kids are in a phase where they like fart songs.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, songs made of that use the

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Speaker 1: fart as a primary instrument. I'm thrilled to be joined

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Speaker 1: as always by my co host mister Miles Graun Wild Creak.

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Speaker 3: A blump blumpless babe, blumpless babe, blumpless babe. You thighs

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Speaker 3: hour one and a million. They go on and on

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Speaker 3: and on. You give me a really plump feeling. Oh

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Speaker 3: z Longe Okay. Shout out to Dope Bob Mailman on

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Speaker 3: the discord. Shout out to the Queen Aliyah recipes Level

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Speaker 3: one million aka oh I love It, I Love It.

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Speaker 1: I was on Francesca Furentines podcast Bituation Room. Yes Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which is like a live stream, somebody came on and

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Speaker 1: said they were there for my plumpers, and it was

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Speaker 1: like right after I had jumped off, and she was

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Speaker 1: scandalized and did not know what that meant and was

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Speaker 2: Did you even tell people you're gonna be on Situation Room?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Or maybe probably Francesca did because she she promotes A guess, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because I was curious. I'm like, did someone just like

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Speaker 2: I'm on plump Watch.

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Speaker 1: I totally forgot I was gonna be on it until

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Speaker 1: we started recording yesterday and I was like, oh, anyways, Miles,

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Speaker 1: little house keeping up top. For the first time in

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Speaker 1: the history of this show, we're trying a new publication

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Speaker 1: schedule for the summer. We're gonna be doing a me

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Speaker 1: re eight episodes a week. We're gonna try some new

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Speaker 1: episode formats out some expert episodes. We're gonna hear from

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Speaker 1: some listeners, talk with some of you guys. So that

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Speaker 1: will be the new format. Will be Tuesday mornings episode.

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Speaker 1: There will be one episode on Friday, one episode on Monday.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, and we're still taking anything anything interesting you

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Speaker 1: can tell us about your job. We've gotten a lot

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Speaker 1: of great. Yeah, we've got people who worked at CERN.

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Speaker 1: We know, we've got some really smart, impressively interesting.

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Speaker 2: To the point I'm like, I'm like, I don't want

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Speaker 2: to talk to them. They're gonna fucking make me feel dumb. Fuck.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no that that person will not The person

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Speaker 1: who's worked a certain will not be on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: There's also people with like really boring sounding jobs, but

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Speaker 1: who have really interesting things to say about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the listeners. Yeah, all right, Miles. We're thrilled to be

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Speaker 1: joined by a brilliant journalist, storyteller, ceo podcast host whose

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Speaker 1: most recent show, Silence the Radio Murders, can be found everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Fine podcasts are Please welcome back to the show. Ah,

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Speaker 1: it's Lassia, thank you.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Scheck, and it was very nice

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Speaker 4: to be back.

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Speaker 1: It's wonderful to have you.

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Speaker 2: Great to have you. Where are you coming to us from?

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Speaker 4: Has I am coming into you from the JV Soho

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Speaker 4: House which is called Soho Works. It's a coworking space

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Speaker 4: with a Soho House branding, but we work way of Life.

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Speaker 4: Oh so there's quite a lot of activity around me,

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Speaker 4: so I hope there's no audio bleed as we say

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Speaker 4: in the industry, Did.

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Speaker 1: You say you're coming into us from? Is that.

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Speaker 4: Or I feel like that's I feel like that's they

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Speaker 4: always said it on news broadcasts back back into the day,

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Speaker 4: coming into you from It does sound a bit lewde

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Speaker 4: now you mentioned.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds awesome. I love it. I wish that

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Speaker 1: we were just talking about Soho House works, which is

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Speaker 2: What's like the membership annually to like Soho House? It

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Speaker 2: was like, no like for it.

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Speaker 4: More than that the global domination plans. It's funny. I

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Speaker 4: was with an Italian friend and Soho Soho House has

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Speaker 4: belatedly opened in Rome and everyone in Italy is very excited.

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Speaker 4: And they have a global no nuts policy in so

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's the influence. Amazing, quite amazing.

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Speaker 2: Let's see, if you got the all houses option and

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Speaker 2: you say you use the main.

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Speaker 1: What you need, Yeah, you got to you gotta go everywhere. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in Rome this weekend for a night,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna stop at the Soho House.

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Speaker 2: Are you under twenty seven? That's a question. Annual cost

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Speaker 4: No, I hastened to add fool so who works?

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Speaker 2: It's always funny to see because like every time i've

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Speaker 2: like an industry thing, I'm always amazed at the people.

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Speaker 1: That anecdote I always tell about Tom Cruise coming up

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Speaker 1: I don't belong to the Soho house, but I know

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Speaker 2: That's where you see things.

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Speaker 1: That's where you see shit like that.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, it costs so much more if you're under

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Speaker 2: twenty seven. Okay, they treat it like a rental car.

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Speaker 2: They're like, if you're under twenty seven, we don't want

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: What do they think's gonna happen? That you're gonna miss

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Speaker 1: That that is gonna happen. Actually, uh would have for

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Speaker 1: me as a twenty seven year old. Oz. You have

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Speaker 1: a new show about murders that happened in the eighties

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Speaker 1: in Miami. Not surprisingly cocaine not far away from it

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Speaker 1: the CIA. But what Q you tell us a little

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Speaker 1: bit about about the show? What interested you about this story?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So the show is called Silence the Radio Murders,

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Speaker 4: and it's about the unsolved murders of four radio DJs

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Speaker 4: And what's kind of interesting is that all of the

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Speaker 4: They were all Haitian exiles who'd moved to Miami fleeing

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Speaker 4: the Duvalier regime. And the killings happened at this incredibly

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Speaker 4: democratically elected president in nineteen ninety one, and these guys

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Speaker 4: there was a military coup that overthrew Aristide. The military

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Speaker 4: figures who led the coup, it turned out later, were

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Speaker 4: and also major knarco traffickers. And the radio guys in

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Speaker 4: host Anna Rana wrote about the crimes in the early

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Speaker 4: and I said, whatever happened, and she said nothing. So

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Speaker 1: That Yeah, it's just when listening to it, like it's

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Speaker 1: there are those tragedies of history when the people are

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Speaker 1: killed and the killer's goal is just like achieved, like that,

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Speaker 1: they're silenced and they get forgotten, forgotten, and like we've

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Speaker 1: Fred Hampton and you know, Malcolm X and who are

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Speaker 1: they surely would have. And yeah, it's wild that you

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Speaker 1: which I guess that's also the case with Fred Hampton

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Speaker 4: But yeah, and this is a small community. I mean,

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Speaker 4: this is little Haiti in Miami, which at the time

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Speaker 2: Well, my ship smell good, So I don't. That's I'm

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Speaker 4: which was completely overlooked by all of the mainstream news outlets,

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Speaker 4: and also to call out the abuses and what was

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Speaker 4: going on at home in Haiti. And so it's pretty

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Speaker 4: cool just I mean, obviously it had a very tragic ending,

438
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Speaker 4: but the idea of being able to take this like

439
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Speaker 4: mass media tool into your hands and turn it into

440
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Speaker 4: a weapon was kind of cool. And literally one of

441
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Speaker 4: the sources said, you know, they had the guns, but

442
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Speaker 4: we had the microphones. And so I was pretty inspired

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Speaker 4: by just hearing about how this exile community found the

444
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Speaker 4: only broadcast and communication technology available to them and users

445
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Speaker 4: a tool to organize and to call out abusis and stuff.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I thought I learned a lot about the

447
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Speaker 4: history of radio reporting the show and some inspiring stuff

448
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Speaker 4: in there, alongside the obviously hellish healthscape of AM radio

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Speaker 4: and conservative talk, which.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why is it all conservative shit in the US?

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Speaker 1: Do you have theories on that after doing the reporting

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Speaker 1: on like how it operates in other countries?

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Speaker 4: I guess conservatives much as love that crackling cracking at

454
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Speaker 4: the AM dial. No, it's a really good question. I

455
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Speaker 4: don't know. I mean, I think it's you know, I

456
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Speaker 4: guess the conservative answer maybe something like it was hard

457
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Speaker 4: to get booked on mainstream media before Fox, and so

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Speaker 4: like AM radio was the only place they could be.

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Speaker 4: And in fact, I think it wasn't like somebody was.

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Speaker 4: I think I think it read something. Maybe it was

461
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Speaker 4: when I was preparing to come on your show last

462
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Speaker 4: time when you got sick, Jack, But it was about

463
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Speaker 4: was it Tucker or somebody else complaining about how electric

464
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Speaker 4: cars didn't have AM radio dials, and this was isn't

465
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Speaker 4: the soul some conservative values? That was something which obviously

466
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Speaker 4: I don't think is the reason they don't have AM

467
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Speaker 4: radios right in electric in electric vehicles. But it's but

468
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Speaker 4: it's it's it's it's a very you know, cheap and

469
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Speaker 4: efficient communication mechanism. And yeah, I guess one way you

470
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Speaker 4: can reach an audience without having to like participate in

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Speaker 4: any system.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right.

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Speaker 2: And I think the other thing is that like AM

474
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Speaker 2: radio lends itself to like the call in style like

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Speaker 2: talk radio, whereas FM doesn't, and that is like like

476
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Speaker 2: those dynamics like just in the market of it, just

477
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Speaker 2: it becomes a completely different animal. Yeah, you know, like

478
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Speaker 2: that's like why you get Russian Limbaugh and like that

479
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Speaker 2: whole that whole kind of thing. We're just like you,

480
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Speaker 2: you're now doing this whole You're performing for just a

481
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Speaker 2: gigantic audience constantly, rather than like being casey ks and

482
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Speaker 2: popping in between like hits.

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Speaker 1: The leftists are also not frequently booked in mainstream media

484
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Speaker 1: and also disenfranchised. And yeah, it's an interesting question.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I guess democracy democracy now is a radio

486
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Speaker 4: call in show, but I don't know if that's AM

487
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Speaker 4: or fmd FM.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, MPR, I guess might be the sad answer

489
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Speaker 1: to the question of you know, well, but.

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Speaker 4: It was interesting at the time they were they were both.

491
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Speaker 4: They were like promitory and anti military radio stations, and

492
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Speaker 4: the anti military radio stations were way more popular, and

493
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Speaker 4: the anti military broadcasters actually like successfully organized a boycott

494
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Speaker 4: and got the pro military broadcast has taken off the

495
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Speaker 4: AM dial in Miami, and that's when things really started

496
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Speaker 4: to go like into overdrive, and like they were getting

497
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Speaker 4: death threats to call them to their radio shows and

498
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Speaker 4: people turning up with guns and so like. There was

499
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Speaker 4: really a battle for control over the airwaves in Miami,

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Speaker 4: which which unfortunately turned turn physical.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in America, when you try and do a leftist

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Speaker 1: radio station, like the host get murdered.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right. No, there's like Tom Hartman who like has

504
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Speaker 2: like a progressive radio shows, Like he writes constantly about

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Speaker 2: how like like the left needs to have a comparable

506
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Speaker 2: tool because it's just you know, AM radio talk rado

507
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 2: is completely dominated by those conservative radios and when they

508
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Speaker 2: do they just think it's like interviewing people which is

509
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Speaker 2: completely different than what like concern like what talk radio is.

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Speaker 1: Right, So yeah, interesting, Well somebody who works for like

511
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Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio or something should do something about that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, right now, I think all we got are

513
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Speaker 2: the podcasting nook.

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Speaker 1: Right now, let's take a quick break and we'll be

515
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Speaker 1: right back to talk about the news. And we're back.

516
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Speaker 1: And so it seems like McCarthy might have the votes

517
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Speaker 1: to push the deal through to raise the debt ceiling

518
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Speaker 1: avoid a catastrophic default. And you know, but the far

519
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Speaker 1: right is trying to apply pressure in their own way.

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Speaker 2: They're really I mean, I think there's there's there's a

521
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Speaker 2: lot of fun when you look at what's going on

522
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Speaker 2: with Kevin McCarthy, because you know, he gave a lot

523
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Speaker 2: a way to become the speaker. If you remember, like no,

524
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Speaker 2: like remember how many times had to vote and it

525
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 2: was like nah, nah, And then he kept going around

526
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Speaker 2: and he was like please, man, what do you want, Like,

527
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Speaker 2: I'll fucking do anything. I'm just like you can be

528
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Speaker 2: speaker for a day whatever. And so one of the

529
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Speaker 2: big things that like you know that he sort of

530
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Speaker 2: gave as an assurance to the conservative especially in the House,

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Speaker 2: Freedom Caucus. We're like, you're gonna work with Joe Brandon

532
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Speaker 2: and we hate that is He's like, hey, look if

533
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Speaker 2: I if I run a foul, you guys can trigger

534
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Speaker 2: a vote of no confidence and you can you can

535
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Speaker 2: have me, you know, just get me out of here,

536
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Speaker 2: whatever you want to do. So just keep that in mind,

537
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: is all as we talk about all this. So they're

538
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: really losing it. And what's really interesting is that, you know,

539
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Speaker 2: they a lot of the Republicans are talking about the

540
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Speaker 2: default in a way that they don't think that eventually

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Speaker 2: it's going to be experienced by all people in the

542
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Speaker 2: United States. Like they think it's just like an optics

543
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 2: thing that if Joe Biden loses, then like, oh it's great,

544
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Speaker 2: rather than like the real consequences of like doubling the

545
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Speaker 2: unemployment rate or people's stonks going fucking poof. But you

546
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Speaker 2: know what, Donald Trunk told them that default was good.

547
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Speaker 2: And I just want to play this little clip from

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Speaker 2: Chip Roy, you know, from the Freedom Caucus and the

549
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Speaker 2: Logic here member of Succession jes Roy, Yeah, Chip Roy, Yeah, exactly.

550
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Speaker 2: He's Connor's other brother who they don't talk about much.

551
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Speaker 2: He just I just want to play this for you,

552
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Speaker 2: because his whole thing is like saying, like, we can't

553
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Speaker 2: do this deal because Donald Trump said no, and that's

554
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Speaker 2: about it. But just listen for yourself, because and he

555
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: has no idea. I guess to me, he's completely divorced

556
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Speaker 2: from the reality of what default means for the economy.

557
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Speaker 6: President Trump said he thought we should default rather than

558
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Speaker 6: pursue this kind of lunacy. At the end of the day,

559
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Speaker 6: the only person that would default in this town is

560
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Speaker 6: Joe Biden unless Republicans default on the American dream by

561
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Speaker 6: voting for this bad bill. That is why this group

562
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Speaker 6: will oppose it. We will continue to fight it today tomorrow,

563
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Speaker 6: and no matter what happens, there's going to be a

564
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Speaker 6: reckoning about what just occurred. Unless we stop this bill

565
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Speaker 6: by tomorrow, the.

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Speaker 1: Only person that's gonna default is Joe Biden.

567
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Speaker 2: Is what really interesting, because again they're playing fucking hot

568
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Speaker 2: potato with a fucking ticking economic time bomb and they're

569
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Speaker 2: like and then he'll have it and then poof, it's

570
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: all on him. But again, that was a lot of

571
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Speaker 2: really cool use of the word default, but it was

572
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: actually just a wonderful tossed word salad for all to enjoy,

573
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Speaker 2: and many of the Freedom Caucus members are doing everything

574
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Speaker 2: they can to try and tank the bill, but it

575
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Speaker 2: seems that McCarthy has the votes, so now like they're

576
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Speaker 2: just trying to poison the well as much as possible

577
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Speaker 2: or have these like really low energy attacks. Let me

578
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Speaker 2: play another one from South Carolina's Ralph Norman, who I

579
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Speaker 2: think is admitting that he is unable to actually read

580
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Speaker 2: written work. I believe is what he's trying to say

581
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Speaker 2: with this appearance on Fox News. So he's going to

582
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Speaker 2: come in talk His biggest criticism right now, aside from

583
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Speaker 2: we shouldn't be working with Joe Biden, is that it's

584
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Speaker 2: just too long, Like it's just such a big bill

585
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Speaker 2: and we don't have enough time to read it. Keep

586
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Speaker 2: in mind that like other bills have been in the

587
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Speaker 2: thousands of pages, and he's going to get fact checked

588
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Speaker 2: a little bit here on like why he's like this

589
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Speaker 2: is way, this is there's no way we can vote

590
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Speaker 2: on this, because that's all he's trying to say is

591
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Speaker 2: we can't vote on this. But has the worst you know,

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Speaker 2: logical excuse here.

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Speaker 5: The negotiated bill that we hadn't even read. It's like

594
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Speaker 5: the Pelosi days, you got to pass before you can

595
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Speaker 5: read it needs but he is giving you seventy two

596
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Speaker 5: hours to consider it before you're asked to vote on it.

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Speaker 5: Blows didn't do that, and that's what the part of

598
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Speaker 5: the twenty of us in January. We got that. But

599
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Speaker 5: really for this seriousness, serious of a bill affecting the

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Speaker 5: dollars that it is and the financial security, which is

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Speaker 5: national security, who want to have a lot more time?

602
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Speaker 5: And I think the day pages, it's only nine pages,

603
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Speaker 5: not the two thousand plus that the Portable Care Act was. Well,

604
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Speaker 5: and yeah, the one of the Biden bills was four

605
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Speaker 5: and eighty pages that we had less time to read.

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Speaker 1: You just fell asleep mid sentence. I'm gonna bail you

607
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Speaker 1: out there. Ralph Norman.

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Speaker 2: It's again. But I love the duality of like holding

609
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Speaker 2: so many of these thoughts to be true. On one end,

610
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Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, fucking default because that'll fucking make Joe

611
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Speaker 2: Biden look bad, But also like, but this is like

612
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Speaker 2: with the severity, the seriousness of the financials and blah

613
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Speaker 2: blah blah. It's like, well, which one is it? Does

614
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Speaker 2: it not fucking matter if you default? Or is it

615
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Speaker 2: that you have to read the bill because everything is

616
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Speaker 2: so important. Again, that's just where they are because all

617
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Speaker 2: they need is some kind of financial crisis to win

618
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. That's their entire strategy right now,

619
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Speaker 2: is some kind of crisis because it can't just be

620
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Speaker 2: us saying.

621
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Speaker 1: We don't believe in body autonomy. Right.

622
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Speaker 4: I wonder if that's still counting on that friends in

623
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Speaker 4: Saudi to to clor will production for the for the

624
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Speaker 4: gas prices, that's the.

625
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, there's I mean, there's a few different levers,

626
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Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, it's not gonna

627
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Speaker 2: be because they change their policies or their platform. It's

628
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Speaker 2: like make everything so untenable that they have to say

629
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Speaker 2: yes to fascism. I think that's kind of the playbook

630
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Speaker 2: they're trying to run. But again, here's the funny part though,

631
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Speaker 2: is that, like now with all of this like outrage,

632
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Speaker 2: it's possible a lot of people are talking about, like

633
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Speaker 2: maybe we do fucking vote Kevin McCarthy out as speaker,

634
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Speaker 2: which would be so funny because he wanted so badly

635
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Speaker 2: to be speaker, and then he would probably become like

636
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: come begging to Hakim Jeffries as the as the Democratic

637
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Speaker 2: Minority leader to be like, can you give me some

638
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: votes so I can be the speaker, in which case, Oh,

639
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: it's just gonna be. It's gonna be. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember that that smile on his face when

641
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 4: he won off to like the twentieth time, and yeah,

642
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 4: this smile will not lasted very long.

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Speaker 2: So unfortunately, because yeahs out here, yeah, like praising Joe

644
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: Biden and stuff, and the Republicans just can't app they

645
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: just can't stomach it. Meanwhile, like all the progressives in

646
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Speaker 2: the Democratic Party are also like, man.

647
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Speaker 1: Fuck this bill.

648
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: So uh yeah, but I think right now most of

649
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: the tension is going on Kevin McCarthy.

650
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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, well, well, des Evd.

651
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Speaker 1: Let's speaking of smile on their face. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift. Her concerts are sweeping the nation. Everybody's excited

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Speaker 1: on social media, and they're so excited they're apparently suffering

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Speaker 1: from mass amnesia because some Taylor Swift fans are reportedly

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Speaker 1: attending Taylor Swift concerts and then have no memory of

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Speaker 1: the event afterwards. It's called by people on social media,

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Speaker 1: not by the medical community. It's called they're calling a

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Speaker 1: post concert amnesia. And so what are people saying that

659
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Speaker 1: they're just like they're like, are they true?

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Speaker 2: Like, I don't know what happened.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. One person claimed that if it hadn't been for

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Speaker 1: a video of her at the show, she would have

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Speaker 1: told everyone that it didn't happen. Another person said she

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Speaker 1: had spent so long dreaming about what it would be

665
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Speaker 1: like to see the singer in person. She later claimed

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Speaker 1: she couldn't grasp what was reality. It's hard to put

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Speaker 1: together what you actually witness, So I don't know she

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Speaker 1: likes Taylor Swift. I've seen the like. So there was

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Speaker 1: a tweet that was like one of my tweets of

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Speaker 1: the day that was like comparing the like stage design

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Speaker 1: to the really complicated shirts from season two of I

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Speaker 1: Think You Should.

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Speaker 2: Leave Dan Flashes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Dan flashes really super complicated shirt pattern. Yeah they're

675
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Speaker 1: more expensive, Yeah, more expensive because the patterns are so complicated,

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Speaker 1: and like, her stage design looks pretty complicated. So I

677
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Speaker 1: don't know if she's like done something that has Like

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Speaker 1: I've never heard someone say it's hard to put together

679
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Speaker 1: what you actually witness right before?

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Speaker 6: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Because like part of me is thinking, like one version

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Speaker 2: is like hyperbole from fans to talk about how amazing

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Speaker 2: it was that you're like, literally, I don't even know

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Speaker 2: what happened. It was so magical, but like, are there

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Speaker 2: actual people Like no, I'm actually worried, like I don't

686
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Speaker 2: know what happened to me more like on that level,

687
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Speaker 2: or is more like it was such a dream, like

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I was just out of body

689
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Speaker 2: or whatever, or I guess, or they're saying like it's

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Speaker 2: hard for me to specifically even call back something from

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Speaker 2: the concert. I know I was there, but that's about it.

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Speaker 2: After that, I just went into an absolute dream state.

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Speaker 1: If the CIA were to align itself with an artist,

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Speaker 1: I feel like that would probably be the correct like

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Speaker 1: that would be the choice.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah right, oh yeah, I think so. But

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Speaker 4: it's a little I mean, if the idea is that

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Speaker 4: it's such a trendsporting and extremely magical experience that you'll

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Speaker 4: literately not able to per film memories, it makes a

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Speaker 4: little disappointing that I've suddenly never I didn't have ever

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Speaker 4: experience that. I've definitely been drunk enough. I don't remember

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Speaker 4: what happened in college, But the idea that has such

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Speaker 4: a transcendent experience that you can't remember. It kind of

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Speaker 4: makes you wonder, like what am I I'm missing out

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Speaker 4: on the life by not being a big tailis stand.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm getting like fomo because like I've seen artists

707
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Speaker 2: that I've absolutely obsessed over, yeah and been like I'm there,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be front row and I remember that shit

709
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Speaker 2: like yeah, I fucking it was magical. Like I was like,

710
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Speaker 2: I'm here, I'm experiencing it exactly how I want to.

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Speaker 2: But yet to your point, I was, I'm like, so,

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Speaker 2: is there like another level like.

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Speaker 1: Drink and these people just getting really drunk for the

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Speaker 1: first time, Like it was crazy, like had seven to

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Speaker 1: twelve drinks and now I ge't no. So, according to

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Speaker 1: one psychology professor, this is something that can happen when

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Speaker 1: someone is in a highly emotional state. Due to exciting

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Speaker 1: or distressing factors. The neurons associated with memory start firing indiscriminately,

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Speaker 1: which makes forming new memories difficult, which which is the

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Speaker 1: opposite of like I had always heard, when you're in

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Speaker 1: like a heightened emotional state, you are more likely to

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Speaker 1: like have a like flash bold memory, you know, like

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Speaker 1: that's that's when you have those memories that really stick

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Speaker 1: because you're like, have this heightened state of arousal.

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Speaker 2: Don't tell that to Ronda Santis, who's denying people from

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Speaker 2: Guantanimo recognized him.

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Speaker 1: Right, how are they going to remember that?

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Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know, man, people remember shit in

729
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Speaker 2: those moments.

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Speaker 1: That Yeah, what I know some people claim not to

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Speaker 1: remember parts of their own wedding is the example that

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Speaker 1: they're giving. So it's like, and so I've noticed this,

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Speaker 1: like with being a dad, Like I will look at

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Speaker 1: a video that I've taken up my kids and it's

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Speaker 1: like just there, I'm like, I don't remember that at all.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember saying those words at all. I don't

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Speaker 1: remember kids looking like that because because I'm so like

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Speaker 1: that has to do with just like I see them

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Speaker 1: every day, so like what they look like is just

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Speaker 1: what they've always looked like in my brain. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I think there's something there that's like missing from my

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Speaker 1: understanding of memory because the only thing that I had,

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Speaker 1: the only interaction between memory and emotional state that I've

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Speaker 1: really had room for in like the thing that I

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Speaker 1: built in when I was like a teenager based on

746
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Speaker 1: like accepted knowledge, was that like scared or excited you

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Speaker 1: your memory like works better, so but and then really drunk,

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Speaker 1: your memory doesn't work. Those were the two things that

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Speaker 1: I knew of that could affect your memory. That's my

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Speaker 1: psych degree. And then like there was also the stuff

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Speaker 1: about you know, repressed memories of abuse or traumatic experiences.

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Speaker 1: But like I had always kind of because a lot

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Speaker 1: of that stuff ended up being recovered through hypnosis and

754
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Speaker 1: like led to it involved in a lot of the

755
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Speaker 1: satanic panic stuff. But it does seem like there's a

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Speaker 1: little more here where like there are forms of heightened

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Speaker 1: memories or like excitement or you know, like with my kids,

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Speaker 1: it's like the love is so strong, like my brain

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Speaker 1: can't look directly, Like it's like trying to look directly

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Speaker 1: at the sun or something. Your brain just like isn't

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Speaker 1: big enough to take it all in. Is like kind

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Speaker 1: of how it feels. So maybe that's what they're experiencing

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Speaker 1: with Taylor Swift concerts.

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Speaker 4: Maybe there's a new merch opportunity like the spinning coin

765
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Speaker 4: and inception that could be sold to Taylor Swift fans

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Speaker 4: before the concept so they neither.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exact because she's a master of like repackaging things.

768
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Speaker 2: They already have and be like, what about this version

769
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Speaker 2: will I build for twenty four hours and it has

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Speaker 2: half a song on it that you haven't heard about

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Speaker 2: that by that, but yeah, maybe she does still like

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Speaker 2: start selling like reality totems, so you keep spinning you

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Speaker 2: know what's going on, which is funny because when you

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Speaker 2: say that, Jack, the first thing I was like, well,

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Speaker 2: this has happened at Beyonce concerts because that's the only

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Speaker 2: other group of people who I feel like I get

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Speaker 2: this with the connection, Like these people, the parasocial relationships

778
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Speaker 2: that they have with Taylor Swift is to the next level,

779
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Speaker 2: so like I can tell that they're already like operating

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Speaker 2: in like a psychological space that might be different than

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Speaker 2: other fandoms. But it's interesting because the only thing I

782
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Speaker 2: was like, I just searched Beyonce post concert amnesia and

783
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Speaker 2: an article just came out ten hours ago that way, Oh,

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Speaker 2: Beyonce fans also getting post concert amnesia at Renaissance, So

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Speaker 2: I'm like, is this a marketing thing?

786
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Speaker 1: Like what the fuck is this could just be a

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Speaker 1: few people on Twitter reported not being able to remember

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Speaker 1: something and everybody jumped on it. But right, like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there are psychology professors and like this Psychology Today article

790
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Speaker 1: claiming that like we folk, this Psychology Today article totally

791
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Speaker 1: does not vibe with like how I feel like my

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Speaker 1: memory works. They're like, you focus on experiencing the world,

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Speaker 1: not remembering it. So if people are truly living in

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Speaker 1: the moment and then enjoying the concert, they're not necessarily

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Speaker 1: doing the work of trying to make new memories. It's like,

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Speaker 1: I don't intentionally ever make memories. I'm not like, I'm

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Speaker 1: remembering this so fucking hard right now? Jack, you remember

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Speaker 1: in You remember it right now? Dude, this is good remembering.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so I don't know.

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Speaker 2: But I again, all I take from this is I'm

801
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Speaker 2: actually good. I have fomo that I've never blacked out

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Speaker 2: at a concert like that wasn't chemically induced.

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Speaker 1: A concert for understandable reason, that wasn't chemically induced.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and that wasn't me abusing xanax or something

805
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Speaker 2: like I'm talking about like I'm fucking levitating because I

806
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Speaker 2: love the artists. Someone, now, what is the Swifties again?

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Speaker 2: I'm part of me, like the joke, the jokey side

808
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Speaker 2: of me is like I think they just want to

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Speaker 2: forget that she's with Maddie Healy and all that, right now, Yeah, anyway.

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Speaker 1: But is the concert Like I guess it's hard to

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Speaker 1: ask this question because you you can't, but like it

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Speaker 1: are people saying it's like a really great concert who

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Speaker 1: aren't like inherently huge Taylor Swift stands?

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. I mean the people who I

815
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Speaker 2: know who are Taylor Swift fans who have gone. I

816
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Speaker 2: feel like everything's been so pot like no one is

817
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: saying a bad word about it. Yeah, obviously because the

818
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Speaker 2: tickets were so fucking expensive and hard to get. I

819
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Speaker 2: think that's the other part of it, too, is like

820
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Speaker 2: you're probably so stressed because you spend like a fucking

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Speaker 2: mortgage payment and a half trying to get a ticket

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Speaker 2: to the show. Yeah, but yeah, I mean the other

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Speaker 2: thing is too they're wearing people are wearing adult diapers

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Speaker 2: to the shows. No, yeah, yeah, they because they don't

825
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 2: want to miss a thing. Like there's a bunch of

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Speaker 2: TikTok clips of like people helping their homegirls like get

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Speaker 2: into some diapers. Another person was like was like taking

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Speaker 2: selfie videos like I'm at the show.

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Speaker 1: And nobody knows I have diapers on when we move back,

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Speaker 1: and they're clearly wearing like under the Sky chicks, Like.

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Speaker 2: Yo, actually, yo, something going on with your yoga pants.

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing a thin blue line appear in the baby's diaper.

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00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, like again I get that part. Like I

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Speaker 2: think I've told this story. I peed myself at the

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Speaker 2: front row of jay Z at Coachella a few like

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Speaker 2: ten years ago because I did not I didn't want

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Speaker 2: to miss anything. And I when I saw how far

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Speaker 2: I would have to travel to go to the restroom

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Speaker 2: and then fight through a fucking gigantic pit to get

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Speaker 2: to where I was, I was like, no, we're doing

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Speaker 2: this right here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So and also you like, like we already mentioned

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Speaker 1: everything about you smell your peace smells fantastic. So it didn't.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm very well hydrated, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean. You're not going to get that like that

846
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Speaker 2: sort of terrible like urreic acid. Oh yeah, no, no, no, no, no,

847
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Speaker 2: not with me. It's basically water baby.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be

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Speaker 1: right back, and we're back.

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Speaker 2: Jack is there? Artists, you would go to the bathroom

851
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Speaker 2: on yourself for? Who would you wear adult diapers for?

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Speaker 1: Radiohead? Kendrick. They said Hendricks, Hendricks bro Oh no Jack, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: those are big ones. Radiohead I've seen a number of

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Speaker 1: times and they're always great, and Kendrick I've never seen,

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Speaker 1: so I realized.

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Speaker 4: I remember, actually on the subject of I didn't have

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Speaker 4: any diapers, but I encountered a I guess a video

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Speaker 4: game arcade machine for one of the first times. I

859
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 4: was about nine or ten years old, and I was

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Speaker 4: so delighted by it. Maybe I was a bit younger,

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Speaker 4: maybe six or seven, but definitely wet myself while playing

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Speaker 4: the game, and.

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Speaker 2: Because out of your excitement and you're like, I can't

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Speaker 2: let this go.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't. I was like, I was like beating level

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Speaker 4: two and I was like I can't. I can't, I

867
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Speaker 4: can't let this go.

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Speaker 1: Get it.

869
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Speaker 4: But tutanic memories, Maybe the soiled diaper could be the

870
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Speaker 4: clue as to whether or not you're already there, Yes, concepts.

871
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Speaker 2: Does everyone strap on an adult diper.

872
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Speaker 4: And then yeah, you know, are we assuming this is

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Speaker 4: mainly number number one or number two?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? You just like you put on the diapers and

875
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Speaker 1: then you blink and suddenly the diaper is full in

876
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Speaker 1: your back of your house with like a glow bracelet

877
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Speaker 1: or risk Oh no, full diaper? What is that? Yeah?

878
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Speaker 1: I was, I was there? Are you were experienced? Where

879
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: we where were we? I mean?

880
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Speaker 2: We?

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Speaker 1: Uh? Chris Christie is going to announce his doomed presidential

882
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: run I guess in next Tuesday in New Hampshire.

883
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 4: So see your next we look we'll I'll look.

884
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Speaker 1: Forward to that.

885
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 2: Chris, What does he think he's gonna do? Just debase

886
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: himself to humiliate himself all over again like he did

887
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen.

888
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: That is the That is the main thing that this

889
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: news has brought is like people being like, so, what's

890
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: the play here? Like, what does he think? Yeah, he's

891
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: he's definitely not gonna win, but does he know that?

892
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: Does he know he's not gonna win? Some people are

893
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: theorizing that he is being asked by other Republicans to

894
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Speaker 1: come in as like the sniper who can insult Trump.

895
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Speaker 1: So he comes in and during the debate he smears

896
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Speaker 1: Trump and that allows Nicky Hayley and like DeSantis and

897
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: all the other people who aren't willing to to continue

898
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Speaker 1: to run without So.

899
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Speaker 2: That is the dumbest idea. Whatever, even that's not doesn't

900
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 2: even make sense. Politically, it's like, well, you be mean

901
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: to him so that other people don't have to. It's like, well,

902
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 2: Trump's just gonna tear their asses down too, So then

903
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: what Yeah, yeah, christ you gonna be Chris Christy be like, hey,

904
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Speaker 2: leave Nikki alone, motherfucker. He's not. He's gonna fucking He's

905
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 2: gonna fold like a motherfucking like a fucking chair at

906
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 2: an AA meeting. That's what's gonna happen. He's gonna lap

907
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 2: and that's all it's gonna happen. And the only thing

908
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: I can think of is that his ego like people

909
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: are gassing him up and he's on some Jimmy Butler

910
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 2: like revenge shit where he's like, I know I was humiliated,

911
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: but this time I'm.

912
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: Gonna go so hard I may be able to win. Yeah,

913
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: don't do that to Jimmy Butler.

914
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 2: Man, come, but you know what I mean, Like I

915
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 2: think he has I think he may have that in

916
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Speaker 2: his mind, like he said he's gonna go so hard

917
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 2: this time that maybe he can win. Because that's the

918
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: one thing we've said, whoever, the person with the most

919
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 2: interesting chance is whoever can go the hardest that Trump.

920
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and none of them can do that, Christy. Maybe

921
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: people are theorizing he can. He cannot. He is not

922
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: built for it. But yeah, I mean, like the idea

923
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Speaker 1: that he will come in in the debate and like

924
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: take Trump down a notcher two is ridiculous because like

925
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: you know, the hit Trump supporters are not waiting for

926
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: the right piece of information to be revealed to then

927
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: like be like, oh, I guess we were wrong, Like

928
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Speaker 1: that that's not the thing. But I don't doubt that

929
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: that could be like something that other candidates are hoping

930
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: will happen, because we've seen like misguided strategy political strategies

931
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: all the time. But the thing that makes it makes

932
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: me highly skeptical that he is like basically lead blocker

933
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: for DeSantis, Pence, Haley and others is that, like that

934
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: is just not how narcissistic megalomaniacs operate. Like he is

935
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Speaker 1: not doing this because he thinks it will benefit somebody else.

936
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Speaker 1: He is doing it because he thinks it will benefit him,

937
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Speaker 1: because he thinks he has an outside chance.

938
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Speaker 4: I'm sure maybe maybe he'll get Rick Santaurum's chair on

939
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 4: CNN as the award for his.

940
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 1: And he's already on CNN. He already has everything want.

941
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Speaker 4: You must have to wonder that. I mean what I mean,

942
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Speaker 4: I guess he's going to raise some money. I mean

943
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 4: it's this entirely quickxotic decision where they come from. And

944
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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, the idea of him, well there's already

945
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Speaker 4: what you might in this scenario isn't very It looks

946
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 4: like there's a gigantic super pack already sent set up

947
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Speaker 4: for him. So there's clearly the donor class thinks there's

948
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Speaker 4: something about him running that could help. I don't know

949
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 4: in what way, But I don't know. I mean, like

950
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Speaker 4: I would, I don't know, it'd be interesting. I'm curious

951
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 4: to see if anyone has what it takes to get

952
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 4: Trump like a little bit frazzled with their like rhetorical

953
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 4: style like Trump does with his, Like I don't know,

954
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 4: Like if you're if Chris Christy was a super like

955
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 4: sarcastic on a debate stage with that helped He's like, yeah, Donald, that's.

956
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: A really good idea, guy, Like what does that do?

957
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 2: Like versus Donald Trump is an Unamerican tyrant doing that

958
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 2: kind of thing, like trying to be like speaking truth

959
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 2: to power. I don't know. I feel like you have

960
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 2: to be like yeah, yeah, yeah, sure you baby, like

961
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 2: take it, take the discourse there.

962
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Speaker 1: But there there are probably people who would be successful

963
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: at that. There probably not career politicians.

964
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 2: No, no, I mean that would be that'd be a

965
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,479
Speaker 2: fun thing to be a plant, just to like flow

966
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 2: up the debate stage every time. Anyway, uh, Koch Brothers,

967
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Speaker 2: if you're interested, I'm willing to offer my services to

968
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 2: debase myself on a debate stage.

969
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: There you go. All right, Well, it's been such a

970
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: pleasure having you on the daily Zeitgeist. Where can people

971
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 1: find you? Follow you, hear you all that good stuff?

972
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 4: Well, I got a Twitter at oswal Oshin and the

973
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 4: podcast is called Silence the Radio Murders, which you can

974
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 4: find wherever you get your podcasts, including of course the

975
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Speaker 4: iHeartRadio app.

976
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 2: Of course where we all of course I should download that.

977
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Speaker 4: Actually, thank you so much for having me back on

978
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:46,919
Speaker 4: the show.

979
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Speaker 1: Thanks for doing it.

980
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 4: It was a pleasure.

981
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Speaker 1: Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying.

982
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Speaker 4: Well, I'm not sure if you followed the radio lab

983
00:50:55,000 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 4: guy Latif NASA's tweet thread about the Afghan viadinist It

984
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,240
Speaker 4: was about a month ago, but basically he got asked

985
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 4: to bring a violin from the east coast to the

986
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 4: west coast to give to this Afghan guy. And the

987
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 4: guy was kind of hard to pin down, and the

988
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 4: thief was annoyed with him, but finally they met up,

989
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 4: and he then realized when they met up, like why

990
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 4: he was hard to pin down because he was working like,

991
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 4: you know, four jobs and didn't have you know, some

992
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 4: of the right sell contract or whatever it was. But

993
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,919
Speaker 4: he gave him the violin and turned out the guy

994
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 4: had been one of the violinists on Afghan Star, which

995
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 4: was Afghanistan's answer to American Idol until the Taliban came

996
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 4: back in twenty twenty one. And now this guy has

997
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,720
Speaker 4: the violin. And not only that, I think the thief

998
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 4: organized this big campaign to raise funds to basically relaunch

999
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 4: the guy's music career in the US, which is very

1000
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 4: heartwarming and actually one of our next shows about it

1001
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 4: at Kaleidscope is called Afghan Star, and it's all about

1002
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 4: kind of what happened to the producers and singers from

1003
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 4: that show, many of for him are now living in Istanbul.

1004
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 4: So it's an amazing story, obviously a sad one, but also

1005
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 4: kind of uplifting that this this music still provides some community.

1006
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 4: And so you know, you never know when you're out

1007
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 4: and about in wherever you live, you know who who

1008
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 4: the person working at the mall or the uber driver

1009
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 4: and what their story might be. And so yeah, I was.

1010
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 4: I was very cheered by by that one. And and

1011
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 4: just you know, the idea of the power of music.

1012
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 4: You know, you have to make you forget or or

1013
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 4: you wear diapers when you're listening to it. But but

1014
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 4: but I was. I thought that was very moving, and

1015
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,439
Speaker 4: I came across on Twitter, so shout out Tolan.

1016
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: What if there was just a piece of music that

1017
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: was so good that it made everybody so immediately.

1018
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 2: That's that's no peace on Earth. I think that is

1019
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 2: the dawning of the age of Aquarius. Actually, Miles, where

1020
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 2: can people find you? What is the work of media

1021
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 2: you've been enjoying? Find me at Miles of Gray, where

1022
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 2: they got at Symbols, Find Jack and I Miles and

1023
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 2: Jack Got Mad. Boostis if you like the NBA talk

1024
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 2: where we do that and if you like to hear

1025
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 2: trash reality talk, I do that with Sophie Alexandra on

1026
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: four to twenty Day Fiance let's see, I don't really

1027
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 2: have any tweets that I've liked recently, but I will

1028
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 2: say I just started watching the new season of the

1029
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 2: Other Two, and that's it. It's been bringing a smile

1030
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 2: to my face. I'm only one episode in, but I'm

1031
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,959
Speaker 2: already it's just so fucking good man.

1032
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: That show is great. So I really am enjoying season

1033
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: three of I Think you Should Leave What's s Trapped.

1034
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 2: Yesterday, I'm like, I have a pact with like two friends,

1035
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 2: like are we gonna watch together? If, like I haven't

1036
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 2: done this kind of shit since I was a child,

1037
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 2: or like maybe in college.

1038
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: They'll be like, yeah, we're watching it together. I just

1039
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: I needed it. Yesterday. I just locked myself in my

1040
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 1: office and watched it for like an hour and a

1041
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: half and it.

1042
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 2: Was great, just just choking back, like all the laughter.

1043
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, all good. I'd like to do that. Yeah, Miles,

1044
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: we see them. What I Think You Should Leave does

1045
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: to me in public, It's not dissimilar to the Taylor

1046
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: Swift thing. Not really tweet I've been in Jamie Loftus

1047
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: at Jamie Loftus helped tweet it. My algebra two teacher

1048
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: has found my book about hot dogs again. Her book

1049
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: Raw Dog, The Naked Truth about hot Dogs came out

1050
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: last week, and she screencapped this message, speak your piece.

1051
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: Saw a piece of you in the Week magazine. I

1052
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: had you as a math student at Brockton. Great to

1053
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: see you doing well. Congratulations. My ask Colin what the

1054
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: importance of math into your work? It is a big ask,

1055
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 1: but people need to hear the message. Hope you are well.

1056
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: If you have ever had a teacher who you know

1057
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: you didn't like or who made you feel badly about yourself,

1058
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: just understand they're probably like socially maladapted weirdo who you

1059
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: know would go on social media and be like, hey,

1060
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: could you make your next book about math the thing

1061
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: that I taught you?

1062
00:54:58,480 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 2: But then it like dums me out because you know,

1063
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 2: like how like whatever that teacher is up against the

1064
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 2: kids just don't give a fuck about math no more?

1065
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 2: Can you put it in your hot dog book?

1066
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: Yeah? Instead of hot dogs, how about some hot math problems?

1067
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 2: How about some hot log orythms hot logs?

1068
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: And then this was the tweet that I think I

1069
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: was referencing yesterday or on a recent episode, uh Luke

1070
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 1: at Luke O'Neill forty seven tweeted smoking is a gross,

1071
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: deadly Habit wouldn't recommend it at all. I nonetheless do it,

1072
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: and it rules. That said, it is honestly shocking that

1073
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: the anti smoking campaigns of twenty plus years ago actually

1074
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: worked in the US. Don't think they would if started

1075
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: now real under the wire shit there it is. It's

1076
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: just crazy how much that And I don't think, like

1077
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Speaker 1: OZ when you go back to Europe, like, is how

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Speaker 1: much more prevalent is smoking there than it is in

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Speaker 1: the US.

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Speaker 4: It's wild. I mean, especially in France, it's.

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Speaker 2: Like everyone's it's still the eighties there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's still the eighties.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: I kind of mention I was genuine I was there

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Speaker 4: quite recently. I was genuinely puzzling this very thing. It's like,

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Speaker 4: how can every young person just smoke the whole time here?

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Speaker 4: Is bizarre? But they do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyways, it worked, those campaigns worked. I guess maybe

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Speaker 1: that's why Americans are so miserable. You can find me

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at That's not the reason. By the way,

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Speaker 1: don't start to can find me on Twitter at Jack

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Speaker 1: Underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at daily Zeikeeist,

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Speaker 1: where at the Daily Zeicheist on Instagram, we have a

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Speaker 1: Facebook fan page and a website Daily zeikeeist dot com

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Speaker 1: where we post our episodes and our footnotes when we

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Speaker 1: link off to the information that we talked about today's episode,

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Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Myles,

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Speaker 1: what is the song? But you think people might enjoy it? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Man, let's go out on this track by a Australian

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Speaker 2: producer called I Think I have that right? Yeah QO?

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Speaker 1: Are you uh?

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Speaker 2: And yeah? I worked with some other like kind of

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Speaker 2: like more underground wrappers that I had heard of, like

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Speaker 2: making beats for them and then I said, oh, let

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Speaker 2: me see what they're so so low beat making work

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Speaker 2: is like. And this track is called Rest off an

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Speaker 2: album called Intoxicated or it's like a sort of mixtape

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Speaker 2: kind of thing. There's also like a remix to a

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Speaker 2: Butterfly by Crazy Town, like he's sampling Butterfly by Crazy

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Speaker 2: Down it kind of an interesting way.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, this track is called rest by col ru Qo.

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Speaker 2: Are you check it out?

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Speaker 1: There?

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Speaker 3: You go?

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Speaker 1: Well? The Daily Zeikuy is a production of iHeartRadio. For

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Speaker 1: Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for us this morning, back this

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Speaker 1: afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you all then. Bye bye,