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Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Countdown. We're setting you up for

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Speaker 1: their sports weekend and covering all the action from the

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Speaker 1: stadiums to the arenas. This is this Fox Sports Countdown,

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Speaker 1: making legendary. The Countdown starts nine live from the Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio studios. Here's Brian no, Rich Hornberger and Jared Smith.

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Speaker 2: Oh what is going on? Welcome in, Happy Saturday to you.

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Speaker 3: I hope all is going fantastically.

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Speaker 2: Man fired up to be here today. A lot of hoops,

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Speaker 2: some ball.

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Speaker 3: We got Paul, we got rule changes, we got the combine,

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Speaker 3: we got the draft not too far away, so we

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Speaker 3: got Paul and uh, We've got Rich ward Berger, We've

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Speaker 3: got Jared Smith.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, rich.

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Speaker 2: Oe, Good morning Jared. Everything good, Everything's good.

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Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, everything's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 5: better for you guys, and a lot more for me

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Speaker 5: pretty soon here because I have secured all of the

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Speaker 5: necessary items to do the the three now makeup losses.

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Speaker 4: I have three different choices of mayonnaise.

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Speaker 5: We've got we've got glass coffee cups. I'm gonna film

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Speaker 5: the whole thing for your entertainment because this is gonna

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Speaker 5: be an extravaganza.

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Speaker 4: So for those of you who don't know what I'm

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Speaker 4: talking about.

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Speaker 5: I owe Jared and Brian three separate half year rapid fire.

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Speaker 5: I don't even know what you call it. I guess

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Speaker 5: the losers lunch, ye, I mean.

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Speaker 6: Lunch.

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Speaker 4: We have a bet that the the last.

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Speaker 5: Place finisher has to drink coffee with Mayo in it.

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Speaker 5: That is the Will Levis preferred coffee. And it's absolutely repulsive.

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Speaker 5: And I think I'm the person who's owed the most coffee,

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Speaker 5: and I think I've dranked the least Mayo coffee on

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Speaker 5: the show. So one coffee is gonna be Mayo, one

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Speaker 5: coffee is gonna be Miracle whip, and the last coffee

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Speaker 5: is gonna be a djon A's. This is going to

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Speaker 5: be awful. I'm gonna try to do it all in

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Speaker 5: one day. I don't know how this is gonna go.

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Speaker 5: I'm very nervous about it.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Brian, do we charge interest because it's been

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know.

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Speaker 2: We could, we could do that, but we're not. We're

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Speaker 2: not mean.

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Speaker 6: No, we're not mean.

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Speaker 2: We're not mean.

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Speaker 6: We're not gonna do that today.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you this that you have been peccable timing

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Speaker 3: rich Oh, because this little.

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Speaker 2: Spiel by you.

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Speaker 3: It might get you off the hook in the eyes

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Speaker 3: of the jury. Okay, now we have major controversy.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, oh wow.

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Speaker 3: Major controversy out of the gate. So we go back

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Speaker 3: to last week. We're on the air on Saturday, right,

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Speaker 3: and we're getting ready for the men's hockey gold medal

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Speaker 3: game US versus Canada. And at the end of the show,

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Speaker 3: our guy Rich Sho aka Tricky Dick.

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Speaker 4: What does he do?

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Speaker 3: He goes, he didn't go Team USA money line, which

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Speaker 3: is even money. He goes USA puck line plus one

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Speaker 3: and a half, which is minus two seventy five jail.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 3: Now, now I ask you, we have rules in plays.

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Speaker 3: What is the maximum amount of juice you're allowed to

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Speaker 6: I think between one thirty and one fifty. I think

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Speaker 6: that's like, yeah, minus one fifty is like the absolute max, right.

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Speaker 5: And normally I think we all kind of will will

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, let me let me tell.

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Speaker 5: Let me clarify. I never looked at the odds on

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Speaker 5: the puck line.

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Speaker 2: At least he's honest. At least he's honest.

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Speaker 6: I thought it was a minus one and a half

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Speaker 2: Yeah, really aggressed one and a half.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so he needs listen, he's got to make up

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Speaker 4: Wow, you guys, you're very generous.

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Speaker 3: He got you got rich, basically got busted going ninety

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Speaker 3: two and a seventy you know, like that was Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was striving, right. Yeah, here's what I would propose, right,

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Speaker 3: how about this? I think this is a worthy punishment.

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Speaker 3: A fourth mayo?

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, my god.

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Speaker 2: How about this?

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Speaker 4: Like another one? There you go, another one.

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Speaker 3: I would say, the opposite of minus two seventy five.

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Speaker 3: You know how the juice works, it's about plus two

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Speaker 3: you always. Let's call it at least a plus two

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Speaker 2: I think that's rare.

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Speaker 6: How's that? Yeah? Give us a two to one and

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Speaker 6: rapid fire today, give us a give us a juicy

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Speaker 6: money line of some college basketball team that's gonna win

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Speaker 6: today and have an upset like that A lot or

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Speaker 6: it doesn't have to be collegebouye anything. But I think

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Speaker 6: that's very I think that's very fair. That is the jury.

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Speaker 6: The jury has ruled. I think that is a very

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Speaker 6: very fair balance because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 6: we just want to give winners to the people. And

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Speaker 6: if you give out a two to one winner to someone,

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Speaker 6: there you go. I mean, that's like, wow, some you're

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Speaker 6: making someone's day.

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Speaker 4: That we're really doing it.

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Speaker 5: Because I was able to hand out, you know, a

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Speaker 5: minus two seventy five winner last week, so I should

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Speaker 5: be able easy, easy today, no problem.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's it's like a layup or getting to the free

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Speaker 3: You find your rhythm, then all of a sudden you're

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll call it a slumbuster.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean? How about that?

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Speaker 3: You know, but while we're talking men's hockey at least

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Speaker 3: connected to it, how about we put a bow on

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Speaker 3: that thing. First off, the winning call from Kenny Albert

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Speaker 3: on NBC last Sunday, unbelievable.

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Speaker 7: With numbers as with cups, the first time, shit's the ninety.

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Speaker 2: You're not states That was awesome, man. And then the

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Speaker 2: tears from Canada, we were better. It's like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: you guys are just embarrassing right now. Like, here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: In sports. I agree Canada's better.

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Speaker 3: They're slightly better than Team USA, But like The Rock

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, right, it doesn't matter at all.

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Speaker 3: There's no doubt in my mind the seven Patriots are

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Speaker 2: But guess what, the Giants won Super Bowl forty two.

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Speaker 2: They were better that night. That's all that matters.

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Speaker 3: And so it's the same thing with Team USA versus Canada.

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Speaker 3: For men's hockey gold team, Team Canada's probably the better team,

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Speaker 3: but they weren't that day, and that's.

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Speaker 2: All that matters.

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Speaker 3: So the tears, it's just like, spear me your tears. Man,

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Speaker 3: You're just you're parking up the wrong tree here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 5: And I don't ever really admonish or mind seeing emotion

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Speaker 4: It's so hard. Sports are so difficult, and I get

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Speaker 5: I've cried after losses, and I think everybody probably has

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Speaker 5: in their life, you know what I mean. If you're

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Speaker 5: a collection full of people who you've never played with

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Speaker 5: before a tournament, but man, all of a sudden, you

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Speaker 5: have this bond that's built over a couple of three

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Speaker 5: or four weeks leading up to the tournament or months.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how long the team's trained together preemptively,

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Speaker 5: They'll always remember that night, that day, and so I

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Speaker 5: don't admonish anybody for crying about it.

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Speaker 3: Oh, no, the complaining, that's what I mean, rich, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean physical tiers.

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Speaker 2: I mean the complain.

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Speaker 5: Three on three, Yeah, you're tied after sixty, Like, you know,

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Speaker 5: to worry about three on three, and then by what,

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Speaker 5: by the way, three on three. I do understand it's

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Speaker 5: different than the normal rules. International play is different than

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Speaker 5: the normal rules you're playing with, but it is still

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Speaker 5: a skills hierarchy. Possessions matter. Like you, you weren't as

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Speaker 5: good as a team who beats you. In that facet

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Speaker 5: of international play. You can't call it a coin flip.

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Speaker 5: You got beat. You got beat. And that's the part

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the comments.

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Speaker 6: So I posted a video on Monday morning about it,

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Speaker 6: like saying listen, because Nathan McKinnon really was the one

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Speaker 6: my response was the team that had more goals like that,

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Speaker 6: which team is better going forward is a different discussion.

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Speaker 6: We talk about this in the betting world all the time, right,

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Speaker 6: like a fagazy win. A team turns it over a

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Speaker 6: bunch of times and you know, gets out played in

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Speaker 6: they figure out a way to slide through and you know,

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Speaker 6: make one play late and you know, kick a late

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Speaker 6: they win the game. We talked about this with the Bears,

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Speaker 6: with the Patriots. At some point you have to give

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Speaker 6: credit to the team for winning the game. Now, who

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Speaker 6: will be favored in the next USA Canada game, Well,

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Speaker 6: obviously it's Canada, because yes, Canada on paper is the

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Speaker 6: better team, but the game isn't played on paper.

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Speaker 2: And the part that really grinds my gears is when

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Speaker 6: Well, if it wasn't three on three, if your team

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Speaker 6: is better, three on three favors you because less people on.

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Speaker 2: The ice means the players matter more.

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Speaker 6: Right, The team that has better players typically wins three

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Speaker 6: on three because they're better skaters and there's more open ice.

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Speaker 2: So like it was just it was cope. It was

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Speaker 2: just cope harder Canada.

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Speaker 6: Like that's just what it was. And at the end

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Speaker 6: of the day, like crying about the game, yes, that's

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Speaker 6: absolutely you're sad you lost, But then the complaining afterwards,

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Speaker 6: that's the part where it's like, all right, just accept

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Speaker 6: the loss. It was a great game, you lost, and

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Speaker 6: now you move forward. And I just think Canada needs

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Speaker 6: to growl Pair Girl, Pair of Canada. It'll be better

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Speaker 6: in four years.

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Speaker 3: Put that on a T shirt right there, you know,

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Speaker 3: grow maple leaf behind it, you know, World Favorite Canada,

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Speaker 3: A couple of a.

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Speaker 6: Couple of danglers there sitting behind.

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Speaker 3: By the way, we're now we're fully into hoops mode

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Speaker 3: over here, you guys catch any hoops yesterday. There was

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Speaker 3: some great games, like Michigan handled Illinois on the college

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Speaker 3: side pretty easily, but man, the nightcap was unbelievable. Oklahoma City,

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Speaker 3: It's one oh seven, one oh seven going to overtime

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Speaker 2: You bet your has.

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Speaker 6: I bet Michigan in that.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to say go team candidate they were

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean. It's like they're good, but

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Speaker 6: I think it was Budweiser.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you for sure, but it's a guy

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Speaker 2: Wow, why isn't someone just snatched you up?

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Speaker 3: And he's like, I don't know, true, And then his

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Speaker 3: it's like that's amazing. Duke seems like the first guy,

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Speaker 4: Why? Why not?

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Speaker 3: And then you know you're nice Arizona or Michigan, like

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Speaker 3: Like they're a good team, Cameron Boozer is fantastic, but

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Speaker 5: Yeah, when you're so proficient at everything and you do

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Speaker 4: I think I think part of the reason is.

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Speaker 5: Is because they they they aren't they don't like knock

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Speaker 5: so complete in all of them that it makes them

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Speaker 5: ultimately a great team. They're very solid defensively, they're very

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Speaker 5: solid offensively. They're good in transition, they're good in half

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Speaker 4: Check mark and you're like, okay, passing greats.

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Speaker 5: They're great, but there's there's also this feeling of like, well,

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Speaker 5: So screwed Duke, and that's always been Duke's deal, Like

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Speaker 4: Duke, we get it. You're better us. That's why.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what's funny.

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Speaker 6: The thirty for thirty was literally I hate Christian Latner

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Speaker 6: which kind of describes I think what Rich is feeling.

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Speaker 6: So they're a younger team in terms of experience level.

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Speaker 6: Now we'll see how much that matters. The irony is.

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Speaker 6: I actually think the team that is really getting overlooked

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Speaker 2: They're pretty damn good again.

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Speaker 6: But I do think the best three teams in the country,

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Speaker 3: Make it legendary, all right now, I would not say

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Speaker 3: these are legendary rule changes here in the UFL, which

443
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Speaker 3: is the United Football League. So we got spring football

444
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Speaker 3: kicking off here pretty soon. When does this start? Starts

445
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Speaker 3: March twenty seventh, So market calendar is there, March twenty seventh,

446
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Speaker 3: we're kicking it off. So there have been four notable

447
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Speaker 3: rule changes which listen the UFL. I'll be honest with you,

448
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Speaker 3: I don't watch much of it. They can do whatever

449
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Speaker 3: they want, you know, Like I think all these rule

450
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Speaker 3: changes for the UFL, I think they all make sense.

451
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Speaker 3: Let's be a little bit wacky, let's be a little progressive,

452
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Speaker 3: let's do things that the NFL isn't doing. Let's try

453
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Speaker 3: to distinguish ourselves in certain ways. I think it's fine

454
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Speaker 3: for them, But the NFL they monitor the UFL. Sometimes

455
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Speaker 3: the NFL gets their rule changes from the UFL. Remember

456
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Speaker 3: the new dynamic kickoff that's taken from another league. So

457
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Speaker 3: the NFL is kind of watching they're peeking around the corner, like, hmm,

458
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Speaker 3: would this work for our league too?

459
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Speaker 2: So that's what I want to do here.

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Speaker 3: Do you like it, love it, or hate these rule

461
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Speaker 3: changes as it applies to the NFL potentially doing the

462
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Speaker 3: same thing one day. Okay, so we've got no punning

463
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Speaker 3: inside the fifty yard line.

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Speaker 2: Do you like it, love it, or hate it?

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Speaker 4: I don't hate it.

466
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Speaker 5: I think that it'll encourage obviously more teams to be

467
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Speaker 5: riskier offensively. You'll see opportunities on fourth down taken, especially

468
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Speaker 5: closer to the fifty yard line, which is where you're

469
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Speaker 5: going to want to see more football plate right in

470
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Speaker 5: you know, middle of the field football or at worst,

471
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Speaker 5: you know, you see a team elect to kick a

472
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Speaker 5: field goal and.

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Speaker 4: Now it's a turnover, And so I think, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I think I like it, but again, there's a lot

475
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Speaker 5: of things I think I'll like And then you live

476
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Speaker 5: in the world of unintended consequences and you go, oh, man,

477
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Speaker 5: take me back to the time where plus fifty punting

478
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Speaker 5: and coffin corner kicks were something that we used to

479
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Speaker 5: really glorify strategically, and so maybe I'm missing something, But

480
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Speaker 5: on its face, I think I like this idea.

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Speaker 6: I like it too. Here's the problem I see, though.

482
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Speaker 6: Let's say it's third and sixteen at the forty nine

483
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Speaker 6: yard line, and you know, all right, what are the

484
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Speaker 6: odds of us actually picking up this first down and

485
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Speaker 6: gaining enough yards to even make it a manageable fourth down?

486
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Speaker 6: And then we're forced to go forward on let's say

487
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Speaker 6: fourth and twelve from the from the forty six yard

488
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Speaker 6: line or something.

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Speaker 2: You know, my math is up by yard there, but

490
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Speaker 2: you get the point.

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Speaker 6: Will teams just like take a knee and get to

492
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Speaker 6: the fifty and then punt like? So that's the unintended consequence.

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Speaker 6: I think with that rule, I'm fascinated to see how

494
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Speaker 6: it plays out in real time because you know, Brian,

495
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Speaker 6: these teams will try to get an edge on anything

496
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Speaker 6: like if it's a percentage point of win probability, they

497
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Speaker 6: will execute that. And you know, we always talk about

498
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Speaker 6: this with do you go forward and not go forward

499
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Speaker 6: on certain fourth downs based on what the win probability says?

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Speaker 2: Based on what analytics says?

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Speaker 6: So I think what that will do, it will open

502
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Speaker 6: up a completely new box of analytical evolution with how

503
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Speaker 6: teams approach third and long from right around midfield. Now,

504
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Speaker 6: how many times will that actually happened over the course

505
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Speaker 6: of a season. I don't know, Probably not that many,

506
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Speaker 6: but that would make those scenarios more interesting. But the

507
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Speaker 6: overall vibe of the rule, which is once you cross

508
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Speaker 6: midfield you're in go mode. I think that's where most

509
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Speaker 6: teams are today. So I am in favor of that.

510
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Speaker 6: I love it.

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Speaker 3: For the UFL, be a little wacky, do something that,

512
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Speaker 3: you know, maybe gets a football fan who's not a

513
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Speaker 3: fan of the league in the door right, maybe see

514
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Speaker 3: a situation on SportsCenter or whatever, and it's like, hey,

515
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Speaker 3: look at this crazy scenario and you're like wow, and

516
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Speaker 3: it gets you invested.

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Speaker 2: Okay, fine. For the NFL, I freaking hate them.

518
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Speaker 4: Oh I would.

519
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Speaker 3: I'd be throwing things if they adopt this rule in

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Speaker 3: the NFL. I love your scenario, Jared, what you laid

521
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Speaker 3: out right there. The scenario I thought. I hadn't thought

522
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Speaker 3: of yours. But the one I thought of is, let's

523
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Speaker 3: say you're on offense, you're at the plus twenty five

524
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Speaker 3: and it's third and ten. You get sacked for a

525
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Speaker 3: ten yard loss. So instead of kicking like a fifty

526
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Speaker 3: three yard field goal. I got to go for it

527
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Speaker 3: on fourth and twenty. That's just dumb.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so you can't even get a field goal

529
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Speaker 2: in so oh that? Oh yeah, no, no, no, yeah, no.

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Speaker 6: Field goals need to still be part of the game.

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Speaker 6: These guys can kick field was much seventy yards away.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's crazy. I didn't actually know that was a

533
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Speaker 4: part of the rule.

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Speaker 5: How about this, how about you're on your own forty

535
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Speaker 5: five yard line, okay, and you got a first and ten, like,

536
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Speaker 5: you have a pretty good drive going, but all right,

537
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 5: you run the ball, you get stuffed for only a

538
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Speaker 5: three yard gain, and so you're out your own forty

539
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Speaker 5: eight yard line, and then all of a sudden, you

540
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Speaker 5: have a incompletion on second down, and you're thinking to yourself, well,

541
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Speaker 5: on third down here, you're no longer necessarily going for it,

542
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Speaker 5: or excuse me, you're no longer you're you're no longer

543
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Speaker 5: looking to get first down yardage.

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Speaker 4: You're you're probably.

545
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Speaker 5: Looking to heave the ball down field and then punt

546
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Speaker 5: because you're gonna be in the no punt zone even

547
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Speaker 5: with you know, I mean, say you gain four yards

548
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Speaker 5: on the next play, you're on your opponent's forty eight

549
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Speaker 5: yard line and you need three yards to get a

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Speaker 5: first down. You're you're looking at a situation where you're

551
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Speaker 5: gonna put yourself in a must go for it situation

552
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Speaker 5: at midfield. So you're going to have teams constantly on

553
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Speaker 5: either side of the fifty making decisions where I mean,

554
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Speaker 5: you just wouldn't see teams play that way.

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Speaker 4: It's impractical. So I agree with you.

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Speaker 5: The more we talk about it, though exactly ten of consequences,

557
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Speaker 5: it would change the way teams played football, and I

558
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Speaker 5: do not like that.

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Speaker 6: Agreed.

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Speaker 3: I agree, that's it, and I take it back. You

561
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Speaker 3: could kick a field goal. Like I'm inventing ways to

562
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Speaker 3: dislike this rule.

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Speaker 6: All right, now I like it a little bit more,

564
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Speaker 6: but I still think there's a lot of bag of worms,

565
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Speaker 6: a lot of bags of worms that are gonna be

566
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Speaker 6: thrown out of the fire if this happens. This feels

567
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Speaker 6: like something that's more gimmicky than the NFL would really

568
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Speaker 6: ever adopt.

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Speaker 3: I would just boil it down to you shouldn't be

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Speaker 3: making my decision for me, agreed.

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Speaker 2: What other thing in the in football do you have

572
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Speaker 2: to do? You don't have to do anything.

573
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Speaker 3: You make your own choices and now we got this

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Speaker 3: rule change where no punting inside the fifty yard line.

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Speaker 2: It's like you took the decision out of my hands.

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Speaker 6: I don't like that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the next rule change, one foot inbounds is a catch?

578
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Speaker 3: Would you like that in the NFL? One day, I

579
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Speaker 3: freaking hate this too. I thought that these were the pros.

580
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Speaker 3: Are we one catch, no fine for the UFL?

581
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Speaker 2: Horrible for the NFL? Would not completely remember?

582
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we're all going to be a concert here.

583
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean, look, some of the most amazing plays we've

585
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Speaker 5: ever talked about on this show or in the history

586
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Speaker 5: of sports have been those double toe touch moments in

587
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Speaker 5: the corner of the end zone, the Plexico Burrs catch

588
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,239
Speaker 5: in the Giants Patriots Super Bowl. You know, I mean,

589
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Speaker 5: I mean there, you know, go through million of them

590
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Speaker 5: like it's there, there's and like you said, they're pros,

591
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Speaker 5: like there's there's a higher expectation. And then on the

592
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Speaker 5: other side, which is so bonkers going back through history

593
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Speaker 5: and revisiting some of the best catches that weren't where

594
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Speaker 5: only one foot got inbounds, and how different the fate

595
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Speaker 5: could have been. Well, you're gonna change it now, You're

596
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 5: gonna make it easier for all of these receivers now

597
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 5: where the game has never been easier for them now, Like,

598
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Speaker 5: give me a break.

599
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Speaker 4: I hate it. I think it's garbage.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that I think there's there's like a level of

601
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Speaker 6: amateurism with the one foot, like when you watch it

602
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 6: in college and these guys are like, you know, stretched

603
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Speaker 6: out so and they can just get that one little,

604
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Speaker 6: one little pinky toe down.

605
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Speaker 2: And it's like, all right, well that's not a catch

606
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Speaker 2: in the NFL.

607
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Speaker 6: Like, I do like the idea of the rules to

608
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Speaker 6: the NFL being a little bit harder, a little bit

609
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Speaker 6: more difficult. And I think these UFL rules based off

610
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Speaker 6: of the first two, they're designed to create action, which

611
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 6: makes sense for the UFL, but I think in the

612
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Speaker 6: NFL you need have that level of you need to

613
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Speaker 6: have that level of polish that is just a little

614
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Speaker 6: bit harder to accomplish some of these things.

615
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Speaker 2: So yeah, very very much against that one.

616
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Speaker 4: For the NFL.

617
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Speaker 3: Man, I'll tell you, you just go back through it.

618
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Speaker 3: Think of the Santonio Homes catch. Yeah, Super Bowl forty

619
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Speaker 3: three were live, You're like, did he really get his

620
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Speaker 3: second foot down? Like I don't, And you have to

621
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Speaker 3: see the still shot and you're like, yeah he did

622
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Speaker 3: somehour's Antonio Brown, Yeah, yeah, great Steelers receiver.

623
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Speaker 4: Man.

624
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Speaker 3: Like some of my favorite moments are when Tony toe tap,

625
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Speaker 3: you know, like you see it live and you're like,

626
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Speaker 3: no way did he get the second foot down? And

627
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Speaker 3: you see him like almost dead leg it and get

628
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Speaker 3: that second foot down, You're like, wow, I would hate

629
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Speaker 3: if all that went away. I would just absolutely hate it.

630
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Speaker 4: All Right.

631
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Speaker 3: The next UFL change field goals over sixty yards, they're

632
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Speaker 3: worth four points?

633
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Speaker 4: Do you like it?

634
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Speaker 2: Love it or hate it? If that were the same

635
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Speaker 2: thing to happen in the NFL.

636
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Speaker 4: I dislike the kicking game in general in the NFL.

637
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Speaker 4: I I really do.

638
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Speaker 5: I think that I want to see more football and

639
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Speaker 5: so incentivizing Now, like I said, I don't think.

640
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Speaker 4: I don't think taking away punts as.

641
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 5: A valid strategic option is the way to get less

642
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 5: kicking in our game because the land of unintended consequences.

643
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Speaker 5: But I certainly, I certainly do not want to live

644
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Speaker 5: in a world where we're incentivizing more kick more kicking.

645
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Speaker 5: Can you imagine how much this changes how offensive coordinators think.

646
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Speaker 4: About the plus side of the football. Field.

647
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 5: As soon as you cross over the fifty yard line,

648
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 5: you're thinking to yourself, like, all right, worst case scenario,

649
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Speaker 5: we got a kicker who's nails from sixty Like, give

650
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Speaker 5: me a break. I hate it so much. I don't

651
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Speaker 5: think it's gonna be good. And I mean, and also,

652
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 5: you're gonna start seeing a ton of belly aching about

653
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Speaker 5: teams who have kickers who can make the four point

654
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Speaker 5: play versus the teams who don't.

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Speaker 4: And it's like, what, we're gonna argue over kickers? Yeah?

656
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Speaker 5: Like kick that's gross. Like, I mean, we're gonna start

657
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Speaker 5: seeing what twenty million dollars twenty five million dollar kicker contracts.

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Speaker 5: I will throw myself off a bridge. After spending my

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Speaker 5: entire life hitting heads for a living, you tell me

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Speaker 5: that I could have kicked a football for twenty five

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Speaker 5: million dollars a year.

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Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? I'll throw them off the bridge.

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Speaker 6: That's insane and probably not had to have your your

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Speaker 6: biceps surgically repaired.

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Speaker 2: Lord knows how many times.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 6: So I just did this. I just did this search.

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Speaker 6: There were twelve field goals in the NFL this year

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Speaker 6: of sixty plus, we did have of course, a couple

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Speaker 6: of sixty five yard pluses. We had Cam Little have

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Speaker 6: one and Brandon Aubrey had three over sixty. I kind

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Speaker 6: of like the idea of a four pointer, but I

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Speaker 6: don't know if sixties and I think it's got to

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Speaker 6: be sixty five. I think it's got to be sixty five.

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Speaker 6: I feel like it is kind of like almost like

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Speaker 6: a bonus round scenario. I do think we're going in

677
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Speaker 6: a direction where these guys are getting so good that

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Speaker 6: it's probably not as it's not as difficult as maybe

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Speaker 6: it will be in ten years. Like so I think

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Speaker 6: that is the That's where I'm against it because right

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Speaker 6: now sixty is again it's only it only happened twelve

682
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Speaker 6: times the whole year, which I guess kind of is

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Speaker 6: a decent amount. But that's why I think the distance

684
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 6: isn't enough. But I think I think I'm a little

685
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Speaker 6: bit more neutral to this one than the prior to.

686
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Speaker 6: But I still don't think the yardage is enough, and

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Speaker 6: I still think we're going towards a direction where there's

688
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 6: going to be so many kickers that are going to

689
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Speaker 6: be able to get it from sixty plus that it's

690
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 6: going to lose its awe factor over the next decade.

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Speaker 6: So I'm against this rule, but I'm a little more

692
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Speaker 6: intrigued by this one than the prior to.

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Speaker 2: Man, I hate it. I gotta be honest with with you, and.

694
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Speaker 3: I'm open for a lot of rule changes, you know me.

695
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 3: I want the brain dead you know, fumble out of

696
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 3: the end zone to be changed. I want the stupid

697
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 3: format of you know, you win your crappy division, you

698
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 3: get a home game. I hate that, right, Like, I

699
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: want things to be changed, but I'm not in favor

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Speaker 3: of this. Dean Blandino, our guy who's overseeing officiating of

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00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 3: the UFL, his quote got me said, kicking a sixty

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Speaker 3: five yard field.

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Speaker 2: Goal is a lot harder than one from thirty five?

704
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 2: Why should they count the same?

705
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, okay, we can play the same

706
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 3: game with touchdowns, Like scoring a sixty five yard touchdown

707
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 3: a lot harder than a thirty five yard touchdown, right,

708
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 3: typically we're going to award more points because like, what

709
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 3: are we doing here? I'm not for this whatsoever. I

710
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 3: think it does change the fabric of the game. I

711
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 3: think it's too big of a change. Our technical producer,

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Speaker 3: extraordinary Chris Perffett. He's got something on this.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I've I've had this thought for about the season now,

714
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 8: ever since I saw cam little kick. What we get

715
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Speaker 8: like a sixty seven yard or sixty nine whatever.

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Speaker 5: That was.

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Speaker 2: Of these six seven I'm trying to do that.

718
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Speaker 4: I want.

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Speaker 8: I think the way we can fix all of this

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00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 8: is that we just need to have a rule that

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Speaker 8: actually limits kicks. I don't like the idea that you're

722
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 8: not even past the logo, or you're not you're kicking

723
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Speaker 8: from behind the logo to score points. That to me,

724
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 8: that is anathetical to the idea of offense and football,

725
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 8: which is about gaining territory.

726
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: And that's my fix.

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00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 8: You can't if where the long snapper holds it cannot

728
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 8: be at or behind midfield. You have to be an

729
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 8: enemy territory to to kick a field goal. And we

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Speaker 8: can fix all this right there.

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Speaker 3: We could get real crazy with this because what you

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Speaker 3: said right there, Chris, they got me thinking of Baseball

733
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Speaker 3: of all sports, like the new pickoff rules. You can

734
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Speaker 3: only throw over twice, like you over a third time

735
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 3: that he and you don't pick him off, he gets

736
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Speaker 3: second base. Like imagine that in the Super Bowl if

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Speaker 3: they're like, you get two field goals, that's it's got

738
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Speaker 3: to go for it.

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Speaker 8: On a golden a golden kick, a golden gold Yeah.

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Speaker 6: With my field goal props that I love the bet

741
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Speaker 6: that's for sure.

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Speaker 5: And you know what, that's another thing like these quote

743
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Speaker 5: unquote mini scoreres, like getting a four point play all

744
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 5: of a sudden, the numbers betting wise get real squirreling.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, oh my god, I would throw the.

746
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, it would really get weird, like because

747
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, as a handicapper, you're really gonna

748
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 5: have to take into account, you know, a how talented

749
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 5: a kicker a team has n't be like what the

750
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Speaker 5: weather is going to be that weekend indoor outdoor venues,

751
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 5: and it may influence more and more NFL stadiums to

752
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 5: be built indoor, like Buffalo. If this rule was already

753
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 5: in place, there'd be no question in my mind that

754
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 5: would be a complete indoor stadium because all of a sudden,

755
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 5: you would want the eight or nine games now that

756
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 5: you're playing at home to be perfect conditions for your kicker.

757
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 5: Too much, League now, Yeah, I hate it so much.

758
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 5: I think they should tighten the goalposts and make kicking harder.

759
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 5: I think you should see more football last kickers on

760
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 5: the field. That's what I arena football field goal posts. Yeah, yeah,

761
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Speaker 5: I sold.

762
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 6: I'm against it.

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00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 2: There you go, there you go.

764
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Speaker 6: You sold me. I was on the fence. I was like,

765
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 6: I could see why it might be cool because these

766
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 6: guys are bombing it from sixty five to seventy now.

767
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 6: But now that again we talk it out and it's like, man,

768
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 6: there's a lot of things that are kind of on

769
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 6: this path of where we are now. To change something

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00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 6: that drastically would be wild and.

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Speaker 2: A good again good for the UFL. Right, the kickers

772
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 2: are not NFL.

773
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Speaker 3: Level just yet, so sixty yarder is not a slam

774
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 3: dunk or as high a probability as NFL kickers. So

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00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 3: for that league, that's fine. But for the NFL, no

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Speaker 3: hum to Ken Baiden, No no, no, I don't want

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Speaker 1: Check this out, ar late letter.

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Speaker 2: Ah, Yes, the.

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Speaker 2: Jared, we start with you.

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Speaker 4: What do you like?

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with this. Georgetown Xavier game. This is

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00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 6: a Xavier team. So of all the teams in college basketball,

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00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 6: if you go to the over under tracker, there's some

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00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 6: websites that track how well teams do to the over

810
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Speaker 6: and the under in the college basketball season, XAVI is

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Speaker 6: number one. They've got the most overs of any team

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Speaker 6: in college basketball this year, twenty one and seven, played

813
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 6: twenty eight games, twenty one of them gone over. They

814
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 6: are just an over machine, very good offensive team. They're

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00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 6: facing Georgetown at home today at Cooley's Bunch. I would

816
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 6: say it is a little bit more defensive minded, but

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00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 6: they've had some whoppers of some of points allowed over

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Speaker 6: the last few weeks. They gave up ninety three to

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00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 6: Butler a couple weeks ago, gave up eighty, and Nova

820
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Speaker 6: gave up seventy ninety yukon seventy six to Marquete on Tuesday.

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Speaker 6: So I think we're going over between Georgetown and Xavier.

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Speaker 6: One fifty four and a half leg one of the platter.

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Speaker 5: All right, we got San Diego State on the road

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00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 5: at the pit against New Mexico Lobos So State.

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Speaker 4: Their big deal is they've got a travel.

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Speaker 5: Friendly defense, and when you're top twenty five in defensive

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00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 5: efficient and you grab a lot of turnovers. You need

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00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 5: those swings to quiet down a very active fan base

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Speaker 5: on the road against New Mexico.

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Speaker 4: So give me San Diego State plus two and a half.

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Speaker 4: I like them.

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Speaker 5: There's a little value there, maybe by a half point.

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Speaker 5: If you look at some of the advanced metrics, you

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Speaker 5: look at bart Torvik, you look at Kempom, you could

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00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 5: see a way how there might be a little value

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Speaker 5: in taking the points on the road at the Aztec

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Speaker 5: So San Diego State plus two and a half today.

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Speaker 2: Give me the points with oh big sueye raiser backs.

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Speaker 3: Huh, give me plus ten and a half with the

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Speaker 3: fighting Calipari's over here. We got various a cuff junior,

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00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 3: we got Billy Richman. We hadn't got an offense that

842
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: could score a lot of points. I'm getting ten and

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00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: a half. It crept up to plus eleven and.

844
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Speaker 2: A half, and the market was like, whoa, whoa, whoa,

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00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: it's back to ten and a half.

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Speaker 3: But at minus one oh two, I like it. I'm

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00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 3: going with the razorbacks man a lot offense again.

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Speaker 4: I like it too.

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00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna be about six to one. Not bad,

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00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 6: almost six to one.

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Speaker 3: Like that by coming up next number one and number two? Oh,

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00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 3: what's going on? Welcome in Happy Saturday to you as man.

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00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 3: We have got a smorgas board of hoops today. If

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00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: you are in the UH market for some hoops like

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00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 3: this is beyond a cheesecake factory menu here, my gosh,

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00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 3: the Saturday menu of college basketball is extensive. And how

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00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 3: about the worst teas of all time? As we were

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00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 3: pressed for time, I just said number one and number two,

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00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 3: and I'm like, wow, out of context, that sounds freaking

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00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 3: terrible right there, But it's talking about the top two

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00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 3: teams in the land. They're both in action and they're

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00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 3: facing ranked opponents. How about the Dookies number one Duke

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00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 3: hosting number eleven Virginia.

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Speaker 2: And what's interesting here, These aren't.

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Speaker 3: Your daddy's Virginia Cavaliers, right, These aren't the Tony Bennett

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Speaker 3: Virginia Cavaliers.

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Speaker 2: Like slow it down defense.

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Speaker 3: They can still get after it defensively, but a lot

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00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 3: more off. You look at the Dukies. They average eighty

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00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 3: three points per game, that's what they score. How about

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00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: Virginia eighty two point three? They're right in that neighborhood.

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00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: Their offense is a lot better, play a much different

873
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 3: style of offensive basketball now in this new era, and

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00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 3: they're getting nine and a half. What do you think

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00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,959
Speaker 3: about this first matchup here? And we get this thing going,

876
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 3: we're counting down to this thing, right, it starts at

877
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 3: twelve noon Eastern time, So count down to tip off

878
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 3: here live on the show. What do you think about

879
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 3: this matchup?

880
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 6: Rich?

881
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it does feel like lambs to slaughter

882
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 5: a little bit when we're talking about Duke and anything

883
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 5: nearing a double digit spread. But look, you know there's

884
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 5: something there's something about this Duke team that I do

885
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 5: think we discussed earlier, and I'll point out again that

886
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 5: everybody's just a little wary of putting their full support

887
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 5: behind them. But like if do I think a money

888
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 5: line Virginia bet is smart money today? No, I think

889
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 5: you'd have to be insane or maybe just click the

890
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 5: wrong box on your app. Like you know, that's the

891
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 5: reality of this situation. They are so much more talented

892
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 5: than than Virginia. I think we're gonna see what we

893
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 5: typically see had a Duke. I think we're gonna see

894
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 5: a team that is buttoned up in every single facet

895
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 5: and and they're really gonna try to, I think, start

896
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 5: getting Boozer extremely involved offensively and make sure that he's

897
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 5: feeling good for the postseason, whether that's in conference player

898
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 5: obviously the tournament, because he's gonna they're they're gonna need

899
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 5: a lean on him hard if they have any aspirations

900
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 5: of winning a national title this year.

901
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is a very different Virginia team as as

902
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 6: as Brian mentioned, like Ryan Odum is a coach that

903
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 6: coming from BCU, he had a pretty decent run there

904
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 6: prior to that. Utah State made the tournament at both spots,

905
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 6: you know, not easy spots to make the tournament in,

906
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 6: maybe you know, in the Mountain West a little bit

907
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 6: as simpler, but you know, this is a coach that

908
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 6: brings a lot of different experience and now he manages

909
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 6: up in the ACC and they've had a really good year.

910
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 6: I mean they've won nine in a row and they're

911
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 6: all conference games, including a win on the neutral over

912
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 6: Ohio State, who I know isn't great, but still those

913
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 6: are all power for wins. Their last loss came in

914
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 6: late January. I mean we're tomorrow's March. So this is

915
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 6: a very good, very talented Virginia team, but I don't

916
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 6: think they have the bodies to match up with the

917
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 6: Dookies defensively. I think that's where so if we're gonna

918
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 6: make that distinction with Duke, I think the defensive side

919
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 6: is where right, Like we talk about them, man, you know,

920
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 6: maybe a little bit. You know, they don't have that

921
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,479
Speaker 6: one stellar mark. They're just really good across the board.

922
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 6: Maybe I'll push back and say their defense is is

923
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 6: the elite and that is where they are going to

924
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 6: win in March. I thought they were fantastic down the

925
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 6: stretch last week against Michigan. I know Michigan kind of

926
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 6: you know, stuck their toe a little bit at times,

927
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 6: but with Boozer and Evans and Nagangba, like, they're just

928
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 6: so big and long in the middle. I just it's

929
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 6: gonna be tough for this Virginia team, which does play

930
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 6: a little bit more free flowing, right. They do rely

931
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 6: on the three a pretty decent amount about you know,

932
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 6: top fifty in that three point rate compared to their

933
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 6: overall field goal rate. So unless the threes are falling

934
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 6: for the Who's Brian, it's gonna be I think a

935
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 6: tough one at Cameron later today.

936
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 3: I hear you, how about the number two team in

937
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 3: the land. That would be the Arizona Wildcats. So they

938
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 3: are hosting Kansas. Kansas now ranked fourteenth, and is it

939
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 3: payback time? Like I was lucky enough to go see

940
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 3: the first matchup, it was at the time number one

941
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 3: Arizona going to the fog, going to fog Allen Field House,

942
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 3: and Kansas took care of business that night without Darren Peterson.

943
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 3: He had the flu like symptoms, didn't play in that

944
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 3: game at all, and Kansas won that thing.

945
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: Now they head on the road.

946
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 3: Is it payback time for the Arizona Wildcats who are

947
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 3: close to a double digit point favorite here? You think

948
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 3: Arizona they're getting Copete back most likely, and he struggled

949
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 3: in that first game against Kansas big time. So getting

950
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 3: Coopete back their stud freshman. What do you think does

951
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: Arizona cover this spread? Do you see him winning by

952
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 3: double digits?

953
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 4: Rich? I mean, it's it's highly possible.

954
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 5: Again, the same way we talked about Duke, A little

955
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 5: bit easier to talk about Arizona. They they're the type

956
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 5: of team that they're scary and especially when they're playing

957
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 5: with all their pistons firing in order, you know, you

958
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 5: ever hear an engine where you know, and this would

959
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 5: have to you'd have to go back and be a

960
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 5: little bit of a gearhead to like maybe like the

961
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 5: nineties was the last time this really happened, Maybe the

962
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 5: eighties where if you had a spark plug that was

963
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 5: was out, you know, and you only had a couple

964
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 5: of your cylinders going, it would sound like the engine

965
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 5: was knocking and shaking and rattling and stuff like that,

966
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 5: because you know, to a car guy and they might say, well, well,

967
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 5: it's easy to figure out what's wrong there, but to

968
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 5: the rest of the world, it's just a really shaky ride.

969
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 5: Arizona almost never does that. It feels like their pistons

970
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 5: are firing all in concert at all times.

971
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 4: So if you're asking me what do I what would

972
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 4: I would say?

973
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 5: Is the more likely or the greater likelihood a double

974
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 5: digit win or a close game here? There's no question

975
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 5: in my mind a double digit win. I could see this,

976
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 5: I could see this being a beatdown on the court today.

977
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 6: I would lean to Arizona here. And Kansas has been

978
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 6: incredibly volatile, right you go from losing to Iowa State

979
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 6: and then you beat Oklahoma State. Then you lose to

980
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 6: Cincinnati home by sixteen. I mean, that's all the worst

981
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 6: losses I think in the history. I'm glad that Brian

982
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 6: wasn't there for that game Cincinnati as the FuG I mean,

983
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 6: I'm sure Faithful were freaking miserable after getting pumped by

984
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 6: Cincinnati by sixteen at home, and then they come back

985
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 6: and they beat Houston by double.

986
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: Digits, like absolutely throttle. I'm pretty good.

987
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, So how do we like really put our

988
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 6: finger on this Kansas team, Like, I honestly don't know.

989
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 6: I could absolutely see them getting blasted by Arizona today,

990
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 6: especially if Cole Pepe comes back and plays well. I

991
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 6: am so Arizona is a team that I usually like

992
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 6: if you just look at the way that they're structured,

993
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 6: which is a team that again doesn't shoot the three.

994
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 6: We talked about this on prior shows. Out of three

995
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 6: hundred and sixty six teams in college basketball, they are

996
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 6: three sixty two in three point attempts to fuel goal attempts.

997
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 6: That just means they don't take threes and they turn

998
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 6: it over at a relatively high level. Those are two

999
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 6: really bad recipes for winning games. In March, in March.

1000
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 6: The three ball is vital, and how you possess the

1001
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 6: basketball is even more important, and that's something that Arizona.

1002
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 6: Both of those things, they're kind of flimsy on so

1003
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 6: I on the surface, I want to push away from Arizona,

1004
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 6: But then you look at their length and their defense

1005
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 6: and how fast they can get up and down the floor.

1006
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 6: And even with guys like Bradley, who I like, and

1007
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 6: Burry's who's a freshman, I think those are okay guards.

1008
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 6: It's really the front court that scares the the Jesus

1009
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 6: out of me. I mean, they've got this seven foot

1010
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 6: two guy Crevs, who just takes up an absurd amount

1011
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 6: of space. And now we mentioned Cole Pete, the freshman,

1012
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 6: who's a little bit more of a slasher of a wing.

1013
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 6: He is also incredibly dangerous. So Arizona does have some

1014
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 6: pieces that really scare me. And when they are playing

1015
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 6: to their ceiling, Brian, I think it is very fair

1016
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 6: to say they're the best team in the country. The

1017
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 6: problem is, I don't think we always get their ceiling.

1018
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 6: But if we get it today and we get that

1019
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 6: Kansas clunker from the other night, I mean, this one

1020
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 6: definitely could get out of hand.

1021
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you on Kansas where they're kind of

1022
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 3: the forest Gump of college basketball. There's lots of chocolates, right,

1023
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 3: because really it's from Darren Peterson, who's sensational, but you

1024
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 3: don't know when he's gonna be out for the second

1025
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 3: half or not gonna play in the game, right, Like,

1026
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 3: he's a sensational player, but you go back to that

1027
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 3: game against BYU and he was unbelievable in the first half.

1028
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 3: He barely played at all in the second half, and

1029
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 3: you're like, what, what's going on? So I think that

1030
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 3: Kansas is a weird team to try to really get

1031
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 3: a good sense of because they're led by a player

1032
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 3: who could go number one overall, but you have no

1033
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 3: idea what his health status is gonna be from one

1034
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 3: half to another. I forget about one game to another.

1035
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 3: You don't know what it's gonna be like from half

1036
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 3: to half. So when you're led by Darren Peterson aka

1037
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 3: Bucket Jones, I love that. That's a good nick right there. Yeah,

1038
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 3: but he is, he's a walking bucket. You just don't

1039
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 3: know if he's gonna be walking right, like you might

1040
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 3: have cramps or whatever. So that I think that's what

1041
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 3: leads to Kansas and a lot of their you know,

1042
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 3: their results are all over the place, at least recently.

1043
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 3: You can't get blown out at home by Cincinnati and

1044
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 3: then turn around and blast Houston.

1045
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 2: It just makes no sense whatsoever.

1046
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 5: I also feel like kans is, you know, on the road,

1047
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 5: they're a five and four teams. So when you think

1048
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 5: about Arizona and you think about what they can do

1049
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 5: to really get the place rock and early, here's really

1050
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 5: the first meeting between these two teams.

1051
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 4: I think boiled down to.

1052
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 5: Kansas having a late game game state swing where they

1053
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 5: can score in bunches and they can score late, which

1054
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 5: makes things interesting for Arizona. But I feel like there's

1055
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 5: an answer for the Wildcats for everything that the Jayhawks do. Like,

1056
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 5: for example, rim protection obviously is huge for the Jayhawks. Well,

1057
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 5: Arizona's second chance buckets is a big reason why they're

1058
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 5: really talented team. You know, so, yeah, you may have

1059
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 5: contested shots in the paint, but Arizona does a really

1060
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 5: good job on the offensive boards, and so there's an answer,

1061
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 5: you know. I would say that Tempo is going to

1062
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 5: be one of those reality checks today. Overall, I would

1063
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 5: say if you want to have a feel for this

1064
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 5: game outside of say a last twelve minute surge like

1065
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 5: we saw with Kansas last time, I would say that

1066
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 5: whoever is controlling the pace of play throughout the majority

1067
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 5: of the game, meaning when when you see possessions, there's

1068
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 5: a calm you so you don't see rush shots, you

1069
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 5: don't see guys with you know, the shot clock running

1070
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 5: out frantically looking for the open man or taking a

1071
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 5: you know, or or looking for the foul taking a

1072
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 5: tough shot. Like like the team that feels more in

1073
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 5: control with the basketball while in possession, even in transition,

1074
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 5: is the team that's gonna win this game. Like I said,

1075
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 5: if it's a close game, I still lean Arizona. If

1076
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 5: if it's gonna be a blowout either way, I would

1077
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 5: say it's gonna be a blowout.

1078
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 4: I mean, I would say if it's gonna.

1079
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,240
Speaker 5: Be a blowout, it'll be it'll be like a double

1080
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 5: digit uh in for Arizona versus Kansas being able to

1081
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 5: do what they did last time.

1082
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 6: Here's how you bet this game. This is a perfect

1083
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 6: live betting game. It really is. Yeah, that's a good

1084
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 6: point because if we I like and I say this,

1085
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 6: I think every game is a perfect live betting game. Like,

1086
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 6: don't get me wrong, Like there's no I don't discriminate

1087
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 6: with live betting, but in terms of like the vibe

1088
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 6: of the game, right, we just gave you two wildly

1089
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 6: different scenarios for Kansas throttling Houston, who's a top ten team.

1090
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 2: Maybe they're maybe not as good as we think, but.

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00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 6: They're a top ten team, and losing by sixteen at

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00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,760
Speaker 6: home to Cincinnati. That's all happened in the last seven

1093
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 6: business days. Like, we don't know what version of Kansas

1094
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 6: we're getting. So here's how you figure it out. You

1095
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 6: sit back and you watch the first I don't know,

1096
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 6: five to ten minutes of the game, and then you

1097
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 6: assess on what Kansas, what version of the Jayhawks we're

1098
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 6: getting today, and then you reassess maybe I don't want

1099
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 6: to say it halftime, but maybe midway through the first half,

1100
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 6: maybe first or second media timeout, and you say, all right,

1101
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 6: Kansas looks Kansas looks sprightly today, I'm gonna take the points.

1102
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 6: Or Kansas looks like a dead stick today, I'm gonna

1103
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 6: lay it with Arizona. Like that's I think this is

1104
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 6: a great live betting game, because we just don't know

1105
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 6: what version of Kansas we're getting, and if it's the

1106
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 6: bad version, you really can't make this number high enough.

1107
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 6: If it's the good version, they could win this thing outright.

1108
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 6: And I think that's what makes the Jayhawks team just

1109
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 6: a really difficult handicap. But that's where the live betting element,

1110
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 6: I think can come in and be your friend.

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00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 2: You know, we talk about basketball. What's in your bag?

1112
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 3: You know, like maybe you're a good you got a

1113
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 3: great jump shot, you're a great three point shooter, you

1114
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 3: got great handles, Like whatever's in your bag, they get

1115
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 3: bag of tricks. I want to incorporate in my bag, Jared,

1116
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 3: what you just said. They look like a dead stick today.

1117
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 2: I don't have that in my bag. I need to

1118
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 2: incorporate that. I want that to be part of my

1119
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 2: you know, my go two phrases.

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Speaker 4: Right. I love that.

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Speaker 2: It's fantastic. You know what, I got that front stick today.

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Speaker 4: I love that.

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Speaker 6: Got that from the movie Armageddon. Remember when they're they're

1124
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 6: trying to land on the asteroid and it's like the

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Speaker 6: Freedom and the Independence I think are the two names

1126
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 6: of the ships. And it's like Independence is a dead

1127
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 6: stick because it like got like beat up where it

1128
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 6: was trying to land. I think that's where I got

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Speaker 6: that from. I like it man where it came from.

1130
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Speaker 4: It works.

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Speaker 2: It works. Fantastic movie Armageddon one of the best.

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Speaker 4: Save the world, Save the World.

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Speaker 6: As Dork Calper, another founder of the backcourt, Jokis comes

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Speaker 6: in front of loom and now Jay Will separates Yokis

1162
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Speaker 3: and Jokich, you know he had he had red eyes

1166
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Speaker 3: for a second as lou Dort hip checked them and

1167
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 3: got a flagrant to got the gait for that. But

1168
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Speaker 3: some playoff intensity last night. Love it all right, let's

1169
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Speaker 3: dive into some more hoops with Seamus.

1170
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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Seamus. You know we go from fisticuffs.

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Speaker 3: It just makes me think of you and your younger days, right,

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00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 3: Seamus brass knuckles McGee, Do I have that right?

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Speaker 9: I couldn't be further from the truth. I've never been

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00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 9: in a fight in my life and I don't plan

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Speaker 9: on it actually.

1179
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Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, man, all right?

1180
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 3: College hoops today, Man, we got the top two teams

1181
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 3: in action.

1182
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 4: What do you think?

1183
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 3: I'll give you a two for one combo platter, right,

1184
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 3: dealer's choice over here? Do you like the cider total

1185
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,919
Speaker 3: in either game where number one Duke is hosting number

1186
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 3: eleven Virginia. You got number two Arizona against number fourteen Kansas.

1187
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 3: You like a sider a total in either of those

1188
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 3: top two games?

1189
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 9: Well, you guys know my feelings about my wah wos.

1190
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 9: But it is a lot of points there in Durham

1191
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 9: today for a Virginia team that is playing very well

1192
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 9: at the moment. But Duke get Home this year has

1193
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 9: just been a force. I mean, I think they beat No.

1194
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 9: Name by almost fifty I couldn't get weep, so it's

1195
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 9: tough to really fade Duke here. So I guess I

1196
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 9: turned more to Arizona and Kansas, and I think my

1197
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 9: gut leans Arizona laying nine and a half against Kansas.

1198
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 9: I don't know how many minutes I'm going to get

1199
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 9: in of Peterson, Like if he's going to pull this

1200
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 9: stuff where he's cramping and he comes out and Kansas

1201
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 9: to play without him for a whole half, I'm more confident,

1202
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 9: I'd say laying the points with Arizona than with Duke, though.

1203
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would actually agree. I think Arizona, and we

1204
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 6: talked about this in the last segment, I think they

1205
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 6: just have this explosiveness to them, and Kansas has been

1206
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 6: so validle that feels like a really good live betting game.

1207
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 6: And this is a good question, is we kind of

1208
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 6: get into March Seamus. I think live betting is very

1209
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 6: underutilized in terms of the way we talk about out

1210
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 6: and handicapping games, like we're always trying to pick a

1211
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 6: winner before the game starts. But I think a lot

1212
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 6: of what college basketball is is just back and forth runs.

1213
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 6: Do you see the live betting handle really start to

1214
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 6: increase as March madness increases or is it just something

1215
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 6: that isn't tapped into maybe as much as the average

1216
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 6: college basketball fan and better probably should.

1217
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 9: I think live betting is probably the biggest for college

1218
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 9: basketball in my opinion. When you look at a lot

1219
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 9: of these big leagues that we take action on it,

1220
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 9: it's almost close to fifty to fifty in terms of

1221
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 9: pre live and live and a we get by the

1222
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,919
Speaker 9: end of March madness happens and a few reasons there.

1223
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 9: I mean, there's three hundred and sixty five schools, there's

1224
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 9: a lot of games on all the time. You go home,

1225
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 9: you open up an app, it's like, oh, there's a

1226
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 9: game on. You flip on the TV, there's always a

1227
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 9: college basketball game on. So live betting is certainly huge

1228
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 9: for college basketball.

1229
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Speaker 5: When you look at the Slate today, you have number

1230
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 5: one Duke taking on Virginia. They're hosting virgin and then

1231
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 5: Kansas on the road to Arizona, even though they're one

1232
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 5: and two. For whatever reason, there's a there's a very

1233
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 5: different feeling around Arizona than there is Duke. We were

1234
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 5: talking about this earlier on. There's something about Duke that

1235
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 5: it feels like people just can't seem to get behind him.

1236
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 5: Maybe it's the fact that it's Duke and people just

1237
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 5: don't like to get behind Duke. But maybe there's something

1238
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 5: else there. What would you say that there is if

1239
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 5: there is something there with Duke, well A.

1240
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Speaker 9: I think you are right. Because it is Duke, people

1241
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 9: don't want to buy into it. But at the same time,

1242
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 9: this is I mean, this is a really good Duke team,

1243
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 9: but in terms of fingerprint, it's pretty close to other

1244
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 9: Duke teams. It's young, you know, it's a lot of

1245
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 9: it's a really young team. Do they have the experience

1246
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 9: to make a run in this tournament? And history has

1247
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 9: shown Duke gets all these freshmen in young teams and

1248
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 9: they don't really go that far and they don't get

1249
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 9: to the final four. I mean, think coach k last season,

1250
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 9: I think was the last time there. But it doesn't

1251
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 9: seem to be the formula that really rubs people the

1252
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 9: right way in terms of picking a team to go

1253
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 9: all the way.

1254
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 3: How about this Alabama Tennessee game. I love a good

1255
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 3: clash of styles game. We know Alabama's offense is outstanding,

1256
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 3: they want to score a ton of points. Tennessee's defense

1257
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,439
Speaker 3: is really good. It's a close spread. We're like four

1258
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 3: and a half right now, Tennessee favorite at home. What

1259
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 3: do you see in this one in terms of the

1260
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 3: style that's going to win out when they're two very

1261
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 3: different teams, really tough.

1262
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 9: I usually like to favor the team that plays slower

1263
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 9: in these games. But admittedly I am the Alabama Natos guy.

1264
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 9: I wasn't a fan of this mediaco nonsense that it's

1265
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 9: happening earlier in the season. But I think Natos is

1266
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 9: one of the best coaches in the country and it's

1267
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 9: a matter of if. It's a matter of when, not

1268
01:01:58,440 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 9: if he gets to a Final four.

1269
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 6: Do you think Florida is being overlooked a little bit

1270
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 6: the defending champs. I know the narrative will be it's

1271
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 6: really hard to repeat, and you know they're not going

1272
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 6: to repeat. But this is a team that I think

1273
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 6: is maybe not as talented in the back court as

1274
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 6: last year, but this front court is unfriakin believable. And

1275
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 6: if they can get the guard player right, I think

1276
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 6: Boogie Flans the guy the transfer that's kind of the

1277
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 6: guy that they need. I mean, he can be a

1278
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 6: little bit up and down, but this is a Florida

1279
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 6: team that is so tough to score on because of

1280
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 6: how long they are in the middle and their bigs

1281
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:34,479
Speaker 6: can stretch the floor.

1282
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Speaker 2: There beings I don't want to say slept On. I

1283
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 2: mean they're ten to one.

1284
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 6: They're the third or at the fourth. They're kind of

1285
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 6: that next team in that second roun But is this

1286
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 6: a Florida team that maybe with the top three teams

1287
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 6: right the Arizona's and the Dukes and Michigan, maybe Florida

1288
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 6: is kind of that fourth team that we're not really

1289
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 6: talking about a lot right now.

1290
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 9: You want to talk about ping at the right time,

1291
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 9: and it might be Florida. I mean, they've they've won

1292
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 9: eight in a row. They've looked like the defending national champion.

1293
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 9: There was you know, they lose the opening night Arizona,

1294
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 9: they lose to Duke, lose to Yukon in the same week.

1295
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 9: People are starting to get off of them a little bit,

1296
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 9: but they've looked insane in sec play. My one worry

1297
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 9: about this team going back to back is the shooting

1298
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 9: on the outside. This is not a good three point

1299
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 9: shooting team this year. So if they can improve that,

1300
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 9: if they can weather that storm, they can they definitely

1301
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 9: have the pedigree to go all the way. This defense,

1302
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 9: like you said, is insane this year.

1303
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jar brought up that point earlier that Florida might

1304
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 5: be a nice value pick because a lot of people

1305
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 5: are off them from early season struggles and the difficulty repeating.

1306
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 5: But outside of say the top four, you know you

1307
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 5: have Duke Michigan, Arizona, Florida.

1308
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 4: We've just discussed.

1309
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 5: Is there really any other like value ad teams that

1310
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 5: you could take a future's poke at now that you

1311
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,439
Speaker 5: might see make noise in the tournament later.

1312
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 9: I think there's plenty of value. You look at some

1313
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 9: of the top twenty ken pound teams. You can still

1314
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 9: get my Virginia Cavaliers. I I eighty to one on

1315
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 9: the market. This team is twenty five and three and

1316
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 9: fourteenth on ken pomp Nebraska. I felt like there's been

1317
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 9: value on them all year. Another team is highs eighty

1318
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 9: to one. You just have to weather the narrative that

1319
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 9: they have never won an NCAA tournament game in their

1320
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 9: history of the program. Bandy, It's tough because they a

1321
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 9: couple of big injuries there. But I think that top twenty,

1322
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 9: top fifteen, there's still some value there. I'm not that

1323
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 9: big of a Michigan State guy. Every year I think

1324
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 9: maybe this year could be different, but I think they

1325
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 9: needed a little bit more shooting. And I ask think people,

1326
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 9: you know, throw about Yukon again. I mean, it was

1327
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 9: the last time you can get Yukon is high sixteen

1328
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 9: to one in the last three years.

1329
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 3: I do love that nugget right where it's like, yeah,

1330
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 3: I know they haven't won the tournament before.

1331
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,959
Speaker 2: No, they haven't won a tournament game.

1332
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, whoa Okay, before we give you, we get your

1333
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 3: shame as special anything at bet MGM you need today.

1334
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,439
Speaker 3: Is there a lot of money on one particular team.

1335
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, the money's still flowing in. It's still early in

1336
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 9: the day. The Duke UVA handle is getting pretty high,

1337
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 9: but it's very balanced. I mean, we're not really leaning

1338
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 9: a certain side. We did take some sharp money on

1339
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 9: Uva plus ten and a half to bring us down

1340
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 9: to nine and a half, but really nothing too big

1341
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 9: to I'm it's a lot change in about an hour

1342
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 9: when you know, parlays start rolling in and yeah, if

1343
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 9: we get a couple of big favorites early, then you

1344
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 9: we'll start to see people start to hammer some more favorites.

1345
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 9: But we'll see how it goes. The Virginia Duke in

1346
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 9: should be interesting. If we can get Virginia money line

1347
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 9: over the over the line, it'll kill a lot of

1348
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 9: parlays early, I can tell you that.

1349
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 2: All right, And you're same as special today. Where are

1350
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 2: you taking us, Seamus?

1351
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,959
Speaker 9: A little rivalry game in the Horizon League. We're gonna

1352
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 9: go with the prdue fort Wayne minus two and a

1353
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 9: half or one and a half, whichever number you can get.

1354
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:56,959
Speaker 9: I think it's good over iu ind Okay, all.

1355
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 3: Right, good stuff man, as always, Seamous, hope you enjoyed

1356
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 3: the day and it we'll catch you.

1357
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 4: Soon, Bud, have a good one.

1358
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 9: Guys, enjoy the games today.

1359
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 6: Appreciate it.

1360
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 3: Bo There he is Seamus McGee, team lead of sports

1361
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 3: Trading at BETMGM. One game that we didn't mention with

1362
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 3: them because they are like nine million of them. We

1363
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 3: can't mention every single one. But how about Texas Tech

1364
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 3: at Iowa State and man, it just seems like it's

1365
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 3: grown to ten and a half now Iowa State favorite

1366
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 3: at home and a lot of betters are thinking the

1367
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 3: same thing. Where is this the spot where the injury

1368
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 3: to JT. Toppin really shows up? He was having a

1369
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 3: sensational season. Tores acl very unfortunate injury, but toppens averaging

1370
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 3: like twenty two and eleven. You know, like these points, rebounds,

1371
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 3: defense the whole thing, and against the team like Iowa State,

1372
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 3: they turn you over.

1373
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 2: They play this.

1374
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 3: Suffocating style of defense. Do you think it catches up

1375
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 3: to them today as they take on the cyclones here?

1376
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 5: Rich, Yeah, this is gonna be one of the more

1377
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 5: difficult tasks that we're going to see for Texas Tech.

1378
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 5: You're absolutely right. Their identity is completely different without top In.

1379
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 5: I mean, that's a twenty plus point per game performer.

1380
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 5: He's also great with the boards obviously. I mean, you're

1381
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 5: you're missing out so much with a with a loss

1382
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 5: like that, I guess the question that Tech has to

1383
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 5: answer all day long against Iowa State is can you

1384
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 5: get off a normal shot? Iowa State they just apply

1385
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 5: so much pressure and they generate a ton of turnovers.

1386
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 5: And it's because of that pressure they they guard like maniacs,

1387
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 5: And so can you get off a clean shot? Is

1388
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 5: there an open look? It's gonna it's really gonna take

1389
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 5: ball movement. You're gonna have to pass in the half court.

1390
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 5: You're gonna have to win in transition. If you're going

1391
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 5: to get off decent, normal shots against the Cyclones defense

1392
01:07:58,680 --> 01:07:59,919
Speaker 5: because they're suffocating.

1393
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1394
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 6: I really like this Iowa State team a lot. They've

1395
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 6: got bigs who can stretch the floor. They've got experience

1396
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 6: Joshua Jefferson six foot nine senior, one of the best

1397
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 6: players in the country, Lipsi point guard. Like, they've got

1398
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 6: all the check marks. Besides that really deep tournament experience

1399
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 6: run like they just seem like last year right like

1400
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 6: loss is a three seed in the second round. Like

1401
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 6: They've had some moments in the tournament under Otzilberger, but

1402
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 6: they always seem to kind of trip themselves up in

1403
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 6: big spots. Remember the game they lost to Illinois a

1404
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 6: couple of years ago when Illinois had that great team.

1405
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 6: So I want to see them, Like, this is a

1406
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 6: Final four caliber Iowa State team, and they have had

1407
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 6: Final four type teams over the last few years, but

1408
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 6: they haven't gotten past to Sweet sixteen. If they can't

1409
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 6: do it this year with the experience that they have,

1410
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 6: then I just don't know if they're capable of it.

1411
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 6: The one bugaboo they have, Brian, they are a really

1412
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 6: poor free throw shooting team, and when you're trying to

1413
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:01,679
Speaker 6: cover a big number late. Yeah, that is always something

1414
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 6: that bugs mean. They're three forty second in the country

1415
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 6: shooting for e throw sixty seven percent. I feel like

1416
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 6: I can make seven out of ten. I know maybe

1417
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 6: I probably can't with the pressure on, but in my

1418
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,679
Speaker 6: mind I can. So we'll just let that one slide.

1419
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 6: Your point about your point about Texas Tech is very

1420
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 6: well stated because right now, in the short term, right,

1421
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 6: we call this the fallen hero spot. You can overcome

1422
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 6: an injured star in the short term. In the long term,

1423
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 6: it tends to bite you really hard, and we haven't

1424
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 6: seen it bite them yet.

1425
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 4: Right.

1426
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 6: They dropped one hundred on Kansas State the other day.

1427
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 6: I know, Kansas State kind of stinks this year. They

1428
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 6: beat Cincinnati the other night, who just beat Kansas right

1429
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 6: law of you know, transit of property of basketball, Well,

1430
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 6: that shouldn't have happened. So I think you look at

1431
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 6: their results recently and it hasn't really struck them. I

1432
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:50,799
Speaker 6: know they lost to Arizona State on the road. Arizona

1433
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 6: State has had some moments this year where they've looked

1434
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 6: pretty good, so I give them a pass for that.

1435
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 6: In the game right after they lost toppen, But we

1436
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 6: haven't seen them really struggle yet without their star. Now

1437
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,759
Speaker 6: they're on the road against a team that I consider

1438
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 6: Final four caliber. I would not be surprised if this

1439
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 6: is the day where the wheels fall off of the

1440
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 6: Red Raiders.

1441
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 2: Could very well happen.

1442
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 3: And man, you have to talk about Christian Anderson though,

1443
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 3: who's been sensational. Yeah, you look at their last game,

1444
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 3: like you're pointing out Jared against Cincinnati, how does.

1445
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 6: This sound for you?

1446
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 3: Played all forty minutes, dropped thirty one points, very efficient,

1447
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 3: eleven for nineteen from the field, eleven rebounds and seven

1448
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 3: assists is what he's given you, man, Like, that's a

1449
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 3: crazy amount of production right there for a guard. How

1450
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 3: does a guard get eleven rebounds in a game? But

1451
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 3: Christian Anderson has been fantastic for Texas Tech. It's just

1452
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 3: like you ask yourself, how fantastic does he have to

1453
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 3: be today against an Iowa State team when you're on

1454
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 3: the road in their building, He'd have to be I think,

1455
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 3: off the charts in territory. Yeah, to win this game, Like,

1456
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 3: even to get inside the number he's gonna have to

1457
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 3: go off. That's a lot to ask of that guy.

1458
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 3: He's he's been nails all season long. Man, But that's

1459
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 3: still that's a tall ask against a really good defense

1460
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 3: that's certainly going to be keying in on him.

1461
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's no doubt about it. Hilton Calseum has been

1462
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 5: like a season long moat that. It feels like they

1463
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 5: they're protecting a castle there and they do such a

1464
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 5: nice job at home.

1465
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 4: Are they undefeated? I think they are fifteen to h

1466
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 4: at home.

1467
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, they have not lost a Hilton this year.

1468
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 2: Magic, Hilton, Magic.

1469
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 5: They're so good, I mean again, defending home court, they're

1470
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 5: good and Texas Tech has been shaky on the road.

1471
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 5: Here's the reality is, even without topping, I think the

1472
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 5: path to a victory is going to be staying alive,

1473
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 5: rebounding and extra possessions. You know, in this post top

1474
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 5: and world like, you're gonna have to find a way

1475
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:51,639
Speaker 5: to win on the boards and get those those second

1476
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 5: chance possessions. And if that leads to a kickout and

1477
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 5: a three, you know what I mean. You may have

1478
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 5: to take multiple attempts from perim against this Iowa State

1479
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 5: defense to penetrate what they do well, which is I

1480
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 5: and again they'll guard in near the paint well, but

1481
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 5: they'll also guard you out toward the three point line. Well,

1482
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 5: so you have to find a way to kick the

1483
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 5: ball around the horn to find the open man and

1484
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 5: get a good look. And that's really difficult against this

1485
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 5: cyclone's defense.

1486
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 4: Especially at home.

1487
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 5: They're just suffocating. Like we were talking about earlier.

1488
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:29,799
Speaker 6: All right, you want the one angle that might favorite

1489
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 6: Texas Tech today, Well it's Heerio. Yeah, I'll throw you

1490
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 6: a curve, but I'll throw a little curveball in.

1491
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 2: Here, a little sidewind direction.

1492
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 6: I like, yeah, I mean listen, it'll maybe go a

1493
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 6: little submarine who knows it coming out of the bullpen.

1494
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 6: Big game for Iowa State on Monday night at Arizona,

1495
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 6: A massive game, massive game.

1496
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 4: We turnaround, but there we go.

1497
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, and Arizona is at home today, right, so

1498
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 6: they don't have to travel. Iowa State is at home today.

1499
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 6: But then they got to get on a plane and

1500
01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 6: go out to Tucson, which you know, I know, I

1501
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 6: was not that far from Tucson, but it's still you

1502
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 6: get the travel, you get this weird big twelve spot

1503
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:06,600
Speaker 6: where they I don't know, I think, go back and

1504
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 6: look at the schedule. I don't know how many times

1505
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 6: Iowa States played at Arizona, right, Arizona just joined Actually no,

1506
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:14,560
Speaker 6: it was last year. They played their last January. But

1507
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 6: Arizona just recently joined the Big Twelve last year, so

1508
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 6: that was their first trip to Arizona. This will be

1509
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 6: their second time traveling to Tucson. Right, you got a

1510
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 6: new gym, new new environment, knew all that stuff. And

1511
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 6: again that game, I think it might decide who's gonna

1512
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 6: be first place in the Big Twelve. Now, Houston's still

1513
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 6: up there right now, so it's Arizona Houston, Iowa State Arizona.

1514
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 6: If they win that game on Monday night, I think

1515
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 6: they will win the Big twelve regular season. So that

1516
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 6: is a massive game for Iowa State coming up Monday night.

1517
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 6: That's the only angle I could see maybe throwing a

1518
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 6: wrench in the Cyclones plans today. They're worried a little

1519
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 6: bit about that big Monday game against the Wildcats. Maybe

1520
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 6: they let their foot off the gas a little bit.

1521
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 6: No JT topping for Texas. That guy can cruise today

1522
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden, the Red Raiders figure

1523
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 6: out a way to cover the number.

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01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 2: It's possible.

1525
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 3: I like what you laid out about the bad free

1526
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 3: throw percentage. Yeah, with State, because man, are you trying

1527
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 3: to cover a number late and they're playing the foul game?

1528
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 3: You know, it's like you need those free throws to

1529
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 3: go down if you're on the favorite. Here, I'll tell

1530
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 3: you what you know. I don't know what you guys think.

1531
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 3: We'll go around the room real fast. But I was

1532
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 3: just thinking about myself when I'm watching a game and

1533
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 3: I need some free throws to be made and they

1534
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 3: miss them.

1535
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 2: I really don't.

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01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 3: I'm just like, you gotta make your free throws. Man,

1537
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 3: Oh it's more worse subdued, like you gotta hit your

1538
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 3: free throws. But I will raise my voice when it's.

1539
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 2: Like get a rebound, like it's the last thing you.

1540
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 3: Have to do, and they don't get one, and they allow,

1541
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 3: you know, a second opportunity, and a lot of times

1542
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 3: they'll figure out a way to score if you give

1543
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 3: them a second or a third chance. But yeah, I

1544
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 3: don't really raise my voice about missed free throws. How

1545
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 3: do you guys get down when it comes to that.

1546
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is such a pressure thing. I agree with you.

1547
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 5: I'm more animate when the prop is something active, like

1548
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 5: you see a big just sort of loitering around near

1549
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 5: the elbow instead of getting down and dirty and the paint.

1550
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 4: And you're like, I've I need one more bored out

1551
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 4: of you? What are you tired? Like? Yeah, that is

1552
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 4: a very very funny point. But I've been there before.

1553
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 5: That's some of those are fun sweats because it could,

1554
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 5: it could go all the way down to the wire.

1555
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 6: Man, here's what I hate. So I know that I

1556
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:30,480
Speaker 6: am incapable of getting a rebound, so I don't feel angry,

1557
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 6: right Like, I know that if I was out there, Yeah, yeah,

1558
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 6: I've hit some free throws in my day. I know

1559
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:37,640
Speaker 6: I could step up to the line and knock one

1560
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 6: of these suckers down. So I get a little bit

1561
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 6: more upset at the free throws because I know that

1562
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 6: if I was there amongst the tall trees, I would

1563
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 6: probably have zero chance to get a rebound.

1564
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 4: Zero.

1565
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,839
Speaker 3: Fair enough, man, fair enough, all right, We've got Rich Hornberger,

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's do this.

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01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 1: Prop it up player plays all right.

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01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 2: The prop betting market shared. We start with you, what's

1589
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 2: something you like?

1590
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 6: We're gonna go to the NBA good game today between

1591
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 6: the Rockets and the Heat kind of sort of reach

1592
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 6: Shepherd under fifteen and a half points, So reach Shepherd

1593
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 6: has been on fire the last two games, five to

1594
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 6: seven from three against Orlando, the other night seven for

1595
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 6: sixteen from three against Sacramento. Well, what comes up must

1596
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 6: come down. Reach Shepherd is a good three point shooter,

1597
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 6: but that those are up scene numbers, so we're gonna

1598
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 6: bet on some regression from Reach Shepherd today. The one

1599
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 6: reason that I like this is because when a guy

1600
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 6: starts to increase his point total, well then the market

1601
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 6: starts to increase a little bit, and sometimes it gets

1602
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 6: a little over their skis, and I think fifteen and

1603
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 6: a half just a little bit too much, a little

1604
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 6: too rich for mister Shepherd. Miami's got a pretty decent

1605
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 6: defense top ten against three point shooters on the year,

1606
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 6: so we'll go under fifteen and a half points for

1607
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 6: the Houston Rockets guard read Shepherd.

1608
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 4: Okay, I have a first quarter prop for you.

1609
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 5: We got Laker Warriors Luka Doncic over nine and a

1610
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 5: half points in this game, so or in this quarter.

1611
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 5: So first quarters, Luca, he gets pretty hot pretty early,

1612
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:16,919
Speaker 5: and then he can tell why is that. Well, typically

1613
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 5: he hasn't been in tremendous shape over the course of

1614
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 5: his career.

1615
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 4: So look to Lucas starting this game hot against a

1616
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,440
Speaker 4: not a poor but but not one of the higher.

1617
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 5: Defense efficiency efficiency defense is in the NBA with the Warriors.

1618
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 4: I like him to go over the nine and a

1619
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 4: half first quarter points.

1620
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 2: Prop Okay, like that little eclectic.

1621
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 4: From the rich micro right, very nice.

1622
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna look at Alabama, gimme lebarn Philon, who's been

1623
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 3: sensational this season. I'm gonna go under nineteen and a

1624
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 3: half points today against Tennessee. We know about Tennessee's tough defense.

1625
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 3: They slow it down a little bit. I don't think

1626
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 3: Alabama's gonna be able to run and gun like they

1627
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 3: typically do. And he's a little bit nicked up, right

1628
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 3: Leberan Filon, So we don't even know for sure if

1629
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 3: he's going today. So I'm gonna take the under on

1630
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 3: filn worst cases this is dead wrong. But second worst

1631
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 3: case is you know he doesn't suit up and you

1632
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 3: get your money back.

1633
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 2: Anyway, It's just a no action type beat.

1634
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 3: But I think under nineteen and a half makes some

1635
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 3: sense today. It's the juice is more on the over.

1636
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 3: It's minus one eighteen on the over, minus one ten

1637
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 3: on the under. But I like him under I'm going

1638
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 3: undertaker on Filine today just to sp it's a spot play.

1639
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 9: I like it.

1640
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,560
Speaker 6: I would say the NBA, then we get to this

1641
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 6: last month and a half or so of the regular season,

1642
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 6: I would look to a lot of unders guys, I think,

1643
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 6: especially with these teams like you know, the Jazz and

1644
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 6: all these you know, teams that are definitely tanking, They're

1645
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 6: gonna be pulling a lot of their starters, They're gonna

1646
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 6: be playing significantly fewer minutes than you might expect. And

1647
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:53,719
Speaker 6: I know the NBA, when you're watching these bad teams

1648
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 6: over the last month of the year and they have

1649
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 6: absolutely zero care of.

1650
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 2: Winning, it's not a fun watch.

1651
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 6: But the market is accounting for their full minutes load

1652
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 6: from the regular season, and if all of a sudden,

1653
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 6: these players on some of these teams that are kind

1654
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 6: of mailing it in are playing ten to fifteen percent

1655
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 6: fewer minutes than usual, well then you're getting a massive

1656
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 6: value on the unders. Not like I'm saying, bet every

1657
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 6: under on every prop, strategically, try to find matchups that

1658
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 6: you like. But I would lean under on almost every

1659
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 6: single NBA prop, especially for the teams that are not.

1660
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 2: Really playing for much down the stretch. Yeah, you can

1661
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 2: find some good stuff there, Jared.

1662
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 6: Where Yeah.

1663
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 3: I think of a team like the Grizzlies and they

1664
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 3: play like nine ten dudes, and they just space out

1665
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 3: the minutes, like all these guys aren't getting thirty minutes.

1666
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 3: No one's getting thirty minutes right now. And so you

1667
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:46,719
Speaker 3: can find some value on some unders right there, depending

1668
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 3: on the matchup and all that.

1669
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 4: Good.

1670
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 6: That's how I would attack it.

1671
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 2: Good advice. All right, come it up next.

1672
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 3: There is a rumor out there that makes absolutely zero sense.

1673
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:00,040
Speaker 4: Oh what is going on on?

1674
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 3: Welcome in, happy Saturday to you. Hope all is well?

1675
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what as we dip our toes back

1676
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 3: in the waters of ball over here, ball of course

1677
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 3: meaning football. Ball means football, right, There is a rumor

1678
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 3: circulating that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

1679
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 2: So the Colts, there's not a rumor. This is actually happening.

1680
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:27,719
Speaker 3: The Colts have given quarterback Anthony Richardson permission to seek

1681
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 3: a trade, which if you put that in you know,

1682
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 3: like normal everyday terms. If your girlfriend says, you know what,

1683
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 3: why don't you see what else is out there? The

1684
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 3: relationship is over man over over over a OVA, right,

1685
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 3: forget it. So with the Colts like, yeah, Anthony, why

1686
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 3: don't you seek a trade?

1687
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 2: They're done.

1688
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 3: They're absolutely done with Anthony Richardson. So now on the

1689
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 3: heels of that, there is a rumor that the Vikings

1690
01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:02,560
Speaker 3: are interested, the Vikings are interesting. This makes absolutely no

1691
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 3: sense because think about this. They've got their quarterback right now,

1692
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy aka nine, as our guy Chris Purphett loves

1693
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 3: to point out, I love this.

1694
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 2: So they got nine in there, so think about just

1695
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 2: do the math here.

1696
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 3: They look at nine and they say, well, he's been

1697
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:23,520
Speaker 3: hurt a ton and when he's played, he's been inconsistent,

1698
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 3: he's been inaccurate, he turns the ball over way too much,

1699
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 3: hasn't won enough games.

1700
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 2: And then the Vikings are going to turn around and say, hey,

1701
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 2: but how about Anthony Richardson.

1702
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 3: Like you just described what Anthony Richardson has been in

1703
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:41,520
Speaker 3: the NFL, Why on earth would you get another JJ McCarthy.

1704
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 2: That's what Anthony Richardson is thus far. It makes no sense.

1705
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta really consider the sources and where this

1706
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 5: type of information can come from. Now to use your

1707
01:22:56,080 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 5: your analogy or metaphor here from a relationship standpoint, Brian,

1708
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:02,680
Speaker 5: if you have.

1709
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 4: A girlfriend who says, why don't you go see what

1710
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 4: else is out there? Yes, the relationship is over. But

1711
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,639
Speaker 4: if you got rumor that the girl.

1712
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:16,639
Speaker 5: You're seeing was out with a different guy, you gotta

1713
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 5: really break it down because maybe you're in the dating

1714
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 5: phase and there's another guy who's interested and they're you know,

1715
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 5: there may be a couple of ex girlfriends you have

1716
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 5: who are interested in seeing you suffer a little bit.

1717
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 4: You never know what's going on, right, you know what

1718
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 4: I mean? It could get really it could get really taboo. Oh,

1719
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 4: it could be quite a scandal.

1720
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 5: But in terms of like actual physical evidence, if if

1721
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 5: somebody tells you it's over, it's over. So Anthony Richardson,

1722
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 5: there's no doubt that he's no longer going to be

1723
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 5: with the Colts. The Golts want him off the roster,

1724
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 5: and he really should high tell it. He should find

1725
01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 5: a different opportunity. In terms of JJ McCarthy, Yeah, it

1726
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 5: seems really bad right now. You just got word that

1727
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 5: you know, the gal you're seeing was seen with another guy.

1728
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:12,759
Speaker 5: Right Woo, that's tough, but is it true. You gotta

1729
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:16,599
Speaker 5: do dogged research here. You gotta have your agent put

1730
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 5: his ear to the grindstone and make sure that the

1731
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 5: vikings aren't running around on you. And here's why, because

1732
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 5: you don't want to have bad blood. You don't want

1733
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 5: to make something of something that isn't actually there. JJ McCarthy.

1734
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 5: They've risked a lot on you know, if you think

1735
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:35,839
Speaker 5: about it, JJ McCarthy. They chose him over Kirk Cousins.

1736
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 5: They chose him over Sam Darnold essentially because think about

1737
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:46,640
Speaker 5: all of the pieces on the chessboard that had to

1738
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 5: move out of the way for him to come into focus.

1739
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 5: Like they they've committed a lot to JJ McCarthy, they're

1740
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 5: gonna throw all that away for Anthony Richardson.

1741
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 4: I mean, are we seriou it is?

1742
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 5: And do we really think that even if they were

1743
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 5: interested in him, would it be to replace him as

1744
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 5: a starter. So you gotta wrap all that around your

1745
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 5: brain if you're JJ McCarthy before jumping to conclusions.

1746
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 4: I don't think this is a valid rumor.

1747
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 5: I think this is Anthony Richardson's camp trying to get

1748
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,600
Speaker 5: something stirred up here. So there's a little bit of

1749
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 5: attention around Anthony Richardson's name.

1750
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he needs reps, and I think he

1751
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 6: realizes he's probably not going to get him in Indy,

1752
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 6: and I think that's why he's allowing himself, or at

1753
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 6: least the cults are allowing them to seek options. Great,

1754
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 6: this is the last year of that rookie deal. I

1755
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 6: don't think they're going to want to pick up that

1756
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 6: fifth year option for twenty two million. So this is

1757
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 6: going to be it for Richardson on his rookie deal,

1758
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 6: and I think the best case scenario for him is

1759
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 6: to start fresh. I don't have a whole lot of

1760
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 6: expectation for him. When we watched his tape last year,

1761
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:57,879
Speaker 6: I mean, it was obvious that he just isn't grasping

1762
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 6: the ability to see the whole field. And that's something

1763
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 6: that if Shane Steiken can't fix it, I mean, can

1764
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 6: Kevin O'Connell fix it. Maybe? I mean I would put

1765
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 6: Shane Steiken kind of in that same realm of really good,

1766
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 6: offensive minded coaches that are really good at making quarterbacks

1767
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:16,879
Speaker 6: look better than maybe their back.

1768
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:18,680
Speaker 2: Of their card says like I don't know, like he

1769
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 2: did with danre Jones last.

1770
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 6: Year, But there is still this allure with Richardson, right, Brian,

1771
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 6: like you just see gms and scouts and front office

1772
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 6: people drool over the physical tools, but they can't get

1773
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:36,640
Speaker 6: the brain to get up to speed with some of

1774
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:39,600
Speaker 6: those higher level NFL concepts that quarterbacks just need to

1775
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 6: be able to do, like seeing the entire field, reading,

1776
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 6: going through your progressions. I don't know if there's an

1777
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 6: answer for fixing Anthony Richardson, but I definitely think there

1778
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 6: needs to be a change of scenery.

1779
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was.

1780
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 3: There was an interaction between Kevin O'Connell, the Vikings head coach,

1781
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 3: and Anthony Richardson, right the Vikings had.

1782
01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 2: Played the Colts.

1783
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:02,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, answer, you know, Kevin O'Connell was just like, bro,

1784
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 3: like everything's gonna be okay. This was going back to

1785
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 3: week nine of the twenty twenty four season, so this

1786
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 3: is kind of like ancient history, but this was Kevin

1787
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 3: O'Connell on the field with Anthony Richardson what he had

1788
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 3: to say to the young quarterback.

1789
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 4: I just felt like in that moment, I wanted to

1790
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:19,720
Speaker 4: make sure I.

1791
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:21,840
Speaker 5: Sought him out and just let him know, you know,

1792
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 5: like I said to him, how much I know that

1793
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 5: organization still believes in him.

1794
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that was the description. This is what he

1795
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:30,720
Speaker 3: actually said, I just fell. No, I don't know where

1796
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 3: it is, but you trust me. He was waxing poetic

1797
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 3: about Anthony Richardson after a game and was just like, hey, man,

1798
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 3: this organization believes in you.

1799
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 4: You're the man.

1800
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 3: Don't doubt yourself. I think he was scratched. I don't

1801
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 3: know that he played in that game Anthony Richardson. But anyway,

1802
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell has gone on record, you know, stating that

1803
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 3: he's a fan of Anthony Richardson.

1804
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 2: But I just don't see how this makes you any better.

1805
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 3: Like, you've had a quarterback in JJ McCarthy, he's been

1806
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 3: banged up and inconsistent. Why would you get another quarterback

1807
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 3: who's been banged up and inconsistent? That makes no sense

1808
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 3: to me whatsoever.

1809
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 4: I'm completely with you.

1810
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think it makes any sense. And and

1811
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 5: and also like that Kevin O'Connell SoundBite. He was a

1812
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 5: teammate of mine in New England. Kevin O'Connell is a

1813
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 5: really great guy. He's also one of those people who

1814
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 5: if you hit it off with him, like immediately he

1815
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:32,600
Speaker 5: becomes a bro like he's your he's your dude. And

1816
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 5: I remember he kept his circle pretty tight when we

1817
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 5: were with the Patriots. But but I remember being sort

1818
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,680
Speaker 5: of welcomed in by him and some of the other

1819
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 5: younger Patriots players at the at that time, and I

1820
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 5: sort of felt like there was some warmth under that wing. Now,

1821
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 5: he was only a second year player when I got

1822
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:56,920
Speaker 5: drafted by the Pats, And as an offensive lineman, you work,

1823
01:28:57,120 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 5: especially a center during pre practice, you know, cent quarterback exchange,

1824
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:04,640
Speaker 5: You work closely with quarterbacks, and so you always have

1825
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 5: an opportunity as an offensive lineman to get closer with

1826
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:09,719
Speaker 5: those guys than most of the other players on the team.

1827
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 5: But I did feel like, almost like a older brother

1828
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 5: feel from a guy who is maybe only a year

1829
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 5: senior in life. You know, he just has that maturity,

1830
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 5: He has that ability to make people comfortable and make

1831
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 5: people feel seen. You ever have like a meeting, a

1832
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:31,680
Speaker 5: chance encounter with somebody who you immediately go like, oh,

1833
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 5: that's a really good dude, Like it could be you're

1834
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 5: on a bachelor party trip with and you know the

1835
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 5: groom's gonna have a bunch of his friends from different

1836
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 5: parts of his life come together in Vegas, or you know,

1837
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 5: on a golf trip and you hit it off with

1838
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:48,720
Speaker 5: somebody and you're like, oh wow, this this is like

1839
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 5: a good guy, and you don't see him for years,

1840
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 5: but then you run into him, I don't know, at

1841
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:58,640
Speaker 5: a golf tournament or at a football game, and you're like,

1842
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:01,320
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, and you right back there with him.

1843
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 5: Kevin O'Connell's that kind of guy. So if he had

1844
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 5: a pre draft appointment with Anthony Richardson, if he had

1845
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 5: if he went to his pro day, if they had

1846
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:16,840
Speaker 5: a long conversation at some point in Anthony Richardson's recruitment

1847
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 5: into the NFL, they could have hit it off to

1848
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 5: the point where Kevin O'Connell feels comfortable encouraging him and

1849
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 5: passing along a little wisdom and a little bit of that, Hey,

1850
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 5: keep your chin up, you're a great athlete.

1851
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 4: This team hasn't quit on you. You know, there's believers

1852
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:37,680
Speaker 4: around this league in you, you know what I mean.

1853
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:40,960
Speaker 5: Like, that's just good stuff from a good guy. I

1854
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:44,880
Speaker 5: don't read too deeply into it, and so I really

1855
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 5: do feel like this was just Kevin O'Connell throwing his

1856
01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 5: coach hat on and saying some nice things to a

1857
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:52,760
Speaker 5: nice guy who's having a rough go.

1858
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:53,599
Speaker 4: Of it in the league.

1859
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:57,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, there's so much energy. I think that takes

1860
01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 6: place in the NFL, and in any sport is so important.

1861
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 2: What do I mean by energy?

1862
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 6: It the frequency that you give off towards people. People

1863
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 6: react to it, and so much of the NFL. All

1864
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 6: these guys are talented, they're all physically talented. But what

1865
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 6: separates the good from the great is that ability to

1866
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,680
Speaker 6: kind of push away the negative and only focus on

1867
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:21,559
Speaker 6: the positive. And that's something that I think a lot

1868
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 6: of fans struggle with because we get very angry and

1869
01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:26,080
Speaker 6: we see what's happening, and we want teams to do this,

1870
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:27,760
Speaker 6: and we want teams to do that, and we're just

1871
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 6: very negative and angry a lot the NFL. When you're

1872
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 6: on that sideline, I can't speak to it, but rich

1873
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 6: can the vibe of the sideline. How do you feel

1874
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 6: about a specific moment? I think what separates pro athletes

1875
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 6: the good from the great again is the ability to

1876
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 6: block out all of that negative juju, all that negative energy.

1877
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:50,880
Speaker 6: And maybe that's what Anthony Richardson needs. He just needs

1878
01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:53,640
Speaker 6: someone to believe in him. That's not to say that

1879
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 6: it's gonna work out. You know, there is a level

1880
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 6: of physical talent that you need to play in this leg,

1881
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:00,640
Speaker 6: especially the quarterback is you need to be able to

1882
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:04,919
Speaker 6: process so much information and react quickly. But it's obvious

1883
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 6: that the situation in Indy has soured so much that

1884
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:10,799
Speaker 6: the energy is now negative and he is now seeking

1885
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:14,800
Speaker 6: other places to try to revitalize his career. And you

1886
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 6: need a coach who believes in you, You need teammates

1887
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 6: who believe in you, and I think that's the only

1888
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 6: way for Anthony to turn this around. I'm not going

1889
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 6: to completely rule it out because I ruled out Sam

1890
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 6: Darnold and we all pushed him aside, and he just

1891
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:28,680
Speaker 6: won a Super Bowl. So I'm not going to completely

1892
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 6: rule out a comeback for Richardson where now he ascends

1893
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 6: back to this top ten level status that we all

1894
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 6: expected perhaps when he was drafted. But he needs someone

1895
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 6: to believe in Hi, Brian, I just don't know if

1896
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 6: it's going to be anyone in that Colts locker room

1897
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 6: right now.

1898
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just so hard where he had so few

1899
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 3: starts in his college career, Like that was my main

1900
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:51,760
Speaker 3: I was doing a bunch of fill in stuff for

1901
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 3: Indianapolis at the time. You know, like daily fill in stuff.

1902
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 3: And I'm like, sorry, guys, you're not gonna like any

1903
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 3: I have to say trying.

1904
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 2: To hate on the guy. It's just he has no experience.

1905
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:05,800
Speaker 3: So he had like twelve starts in college, you know

1906
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:10,679
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like there was a very limited reps

1907
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 3: and I had he had under four hundred passing attempts

1908
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 3: in his college career. And you look at some of

1909
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:20,920
Speaker 3: these quarterbacks, like some of these quarterbacks had over a

1910
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:25,080
Speaker 3: thousand passing attempts in their college careers. And he just

1911
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 3: didn't have the experience the reps in college. And now

1912
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:30,320
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, he's a top five pick and

1913
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 3: that comes with all these expectations, and he's been nicked

1914
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 3: up quite a bit. He's never had like the reps

1915
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:40,800
Speaker 3: that he needs to grow, and it's just gotten too

1916
01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 3: far gone where he's just in a rough spot right now.

1917
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:45,840
Speaker 2: Our trusted producer Bo Benson's got something on this.

1918
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:47,840
Speaker 10: What do you think, bough You guys may have mentioned this,

1919
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 10: and I apologize if you had, but I do think

1920
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:51,840
Speaker 10: there is one scenario in which Anthony Richardson to the

1921
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 10: Vikings make sense, and that's in one where they trade

1922
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:57,599
Speaker 10: JJ McCarthy for Richardson and just do the same plan

1923
01:33:57,680 --> 01:34:01,000
Speaker 10: they're expected to do. Wow, But with you know, like

1924
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 10: let's say Kyler Murray and Anthony Richardson in the quarterback room,

1925
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:06,639
Speaker 10: because I think they're the same quarterback in the sense

1926
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 10: that like they both kind of stink right now and

1927
01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:12,200
Speaker 10: they need reps. But I think Anthony Richardson's ceiling is

1928
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:15,560
Speaker 10: already higher than JJ McCarthy's will ever be, and I

1929
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 10: think neither of them are likely going to get to

1930
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:19,880
Speaker 10: their ceiling anyway. But that's the only way I think

1931
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:21,120
Speaker 10: it makes any I think whatsoever.

1932
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:23,360
Speaker 8: I think all the quarterbacks in front of the Vikings

1933
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 8: moving forward are basically reclamation projects, and it's just a

1934
01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 8: matter of which reclamation project you're most comfortable with taking

1935
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:30,840
Speaker 8: up the mantle four.

1936
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 3: It's pretty wild when you compare the statements of these

1937
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 3: teams where look at this one from this is the

1938
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 3: Vikings to Facto GM. So this is Rob Brazinski, he's

1939
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 3: the vice president of football Operations. Yeah, and so he said,

1940
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:48,760
Speaker 3: what we do know is we need a level of

1941
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 3: baseline quarterback play for us to be effective. We're going

1942
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:57,760
Speaker 3: to explore every opportunity. Okay, So what you had to

1943
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 3: say about the Vikings skirt quarterback JJ McCarthy. Now this

1944
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:04,400
Speaker 3: is Nick Casario who calls the shots over there with

1945
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 3: the Houston Texans. So this is earlier in the week

1946
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 3: at the combine.

1947
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:09,080
Speaker 4: They're in Indy.

1948
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 2: And this is what Casario said about c J. Stroud.

1949
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:12,840
Speaker 2: Remember c J Stroud.

1950
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 3: Last time we saw him, he threw four interceptions in

1951
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 3: the first half against the Patriots, right, so not great.

1952
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 3: And Casario said, we are not trading the guy. He's

1953
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 3: our quarterback. He's going to be playing quarterback for the

1954
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:30,120
Speaker 3: Houston Texans in twenty twenty six. He's not going anywhere, right, Like,

1955
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 3: so you just compare the statements where the Vikings are like, yeah,

1956
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 3: we're opening at every possibility, and the Texans are like,

1957
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:40,639
Speaker 3: he's our guy. Like you know exactly where organizations stand

1958
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:43,839
Speaker 3: on quarterbacks, and we're two years in to JJ McCarthy

1959
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:47,479
Speaker 3: and they're looking at they're looking under every potential rock,

1960
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:49,559
Speaker 3: like every rock for potential solution.

1961
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 6: Here.

1962
01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:50,639
Speaker 2: That's where they're at.

1963
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:51,639
Speaker 4: On nine.

1964
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:54,040
Speaker 2: It's a rough spot to be if you are nine.

1965
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:58,639
Speaker 5: Well yeah, and also like if you like in general

1966
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:02,479
Speaker 5: in life, if you're in a committed relationship or you're

1967
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:05,560
Speaker 5: in a really secure.

1968
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 4: Job that you love, or you know what I mean,

1969
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 4: and name anything.

1970
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:12,120
Speaker 5: You just bought a car and you know it's the

1971
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:15,639
Speaker 5: making model you've always dreamed on, and it's a late model,

1972
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 5: so you know it's you know, it's gonna be roadworthy

1973
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:18,400
Speaker 5: for a while.

1974
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:20,600
Speaker 4: You're not shopping anymore.

1975
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:22,160
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, whether it be for a

1976
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:26,680
Speaker 5: relationship or an occupation or for a vehicle. Like, if

1977
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 5: you've got something you're sure of, you're not shopping. But

1978
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 5: if you're in the headspace where, hey, you know, I

1979
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 5: gotta leave my options open all of a sudden, it

1980
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:41,600
Speaker 5: doesn't matter if it's Anthony Richardson or if it's Joe Montana,

1981
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 5: the second coming of Tom Brady, who walks through that door.

1982
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:47,560
Speaker 5: You're just hey, you're just putting out the energy to

1983
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:51,439
Speaker 5: borrow what Jared was talking about. You're saying, hey, you know, look,

1984
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 5: Anthony Richardson, that Hey, that's a good that's a good guy.

1985
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 4: Do we think he could play football here? Maybe not?

1986
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:03,479
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe yeah, But right now we're not shutting down

1987
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:09,400
Speaker 5: any conversations because we got JJ McCarthy, and so far,

1988
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy hasn't been an answer to a lot of

1989
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:17,320
Speaker 5: the questions that we've been posed offensively recently.

1990
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:18,960
Speaker 4: And so we got to figure it out.

1991
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:21,800
Speaker 5: In fact, JJ McCarthy may have been responsible for getting

1992
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 5: our GM fired, So we got to figure it out.

1993
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 5: And if you're Kevin O'Connell especially, or anybody in that

1994
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 5: front office in any temporary role, you're worried about your

1995
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 5: livelihood right now, So you are putting out the energy

1996
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:36,120
Speaker 5: where it's like, hey, we got to have a very

1997
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:41,080
Speaker 5: open and honest conversation about where we're heading and what

1998
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 5: bearing we're going to start taking, and who knows where

1999
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:48,400
Speaker 5: that may may put you in the future. Now do

2000
01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 5: I think Anthony Richardson is in the headspace or has

2001
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:55,400
Speaker 5: the talent at this point to help the Vikings more

2002
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 5: than JJ McCarthy.

2003
01:37:56,479 --> 01:37:57,560
Speaker 4: The answer is absolutely not.

2004
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 5: But am I saying that the Vikings are very differently

2005
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:04,679
Speaker 5: from the Houston Texans putting out the vibe so to speak?

2006
01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:06,960
Speaker 4: The answer is absolutely yes.

2007
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 6: Can we talk about this how weird this entire situation is.

2008
01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 6: Considering the Vikings have no GM, no GM, that just

2009
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:18,720
Speaker 6: makes this whole situation so much weirder. You're going to

2010
01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 6: dump the quarterback that you just drafted in the top

2011
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:23,479
Speaker 6: ten trade for a quarterback who was drafted in the

2012
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:25,719
Speaker 6: top ten I think the year or two years prior,

2013
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:29,120
Speaker 6: who has been a complete bust in the NFL. You're

2014
01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 6: going to do all of this while you are searching

2015
01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:33,400
Speaker 6: for a general manager.

2016
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:36,680
Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, the NFL Draft.

2017
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:39,840
Speaker 6: Is in like two months. Ye like it. It seems

2018
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:44,080
Speaker 6: like there's a lot of weirdness going on in Minnesota

2019
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:45,759
Speaker 6: right now with this Vikings franchise.

2020
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:48,840
Speaker 2: And if I was a fan, for sure, I.

2021
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:51,960
Speaker 6: Would not want this team making any long term decisions

2022
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:54,920
Speaker 6: during this transition process. And I know the McCarthy. If

2023
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 6: you trade McCarthy and you get Richardson, it wouldn't be

2024
01:38:56,960 --> 01:38:59,040
Speaker 6: a long term decision because he's only under contract for

2025
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:01,720
Speaker 6: one more year, so it'd basically be a one and done.

2026
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 2: But if they go sign Kyler Murray or.

2027
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:06,200
Speaker 6: You know, trade for Kyler Murray, give up assets for him, like,

2028
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 6: I would just be very mindful of not making any

2029
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:13,840
Speaker 6: rash decisions during this transition period.

2030
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:15,920
Speaker 2: So the fact that we're going, like, is there a.

2031
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 6: Team in the NFL right now with higher expectations that

2032
01:39:19,640 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 6: has less certainty at the quarterback position than the Vikings

2033
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:25,640
Speaker 6: considering they don't have a GM. Like, it's just a

2034
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:29,160
Speaker 6: very bizarre scenario right now in Minnesota. Brian, it is.

2035
01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:33,120
Speaker 3: It's happened before a few times where you know they'll

2036
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:35,320
Speaker 3: hire their new GM after the draft.

2037
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 2: But I've always thought that's strange.

2038
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:37,400
Speaker 4: Man.

2039
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:40,600
Speaker 3: The Vikings are the only team in this whole you know,

2040
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:46,280
Speaker 3: carousel of changes that don't have a GM before the draft.

2041
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 3: Like that's the plan is Prazinski is going to be

2042
01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:50,400
Speaker 3: the guy through the draft and then they're eventually going

2043
01:39:50,439 --> 01:39:52,920
Speaker 3: to hire a GM. But imagine you get the gig

2044
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:55,200
Speaker 3: and you're like you're thinking to yourself, I wanted a

2045
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:57,000
Speaker 3: drafted that guy exactly.

2046
01:39:57,360 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have made that quarterback change.

2047
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 3: Now I gotta like fix some of this stuff or

2048
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:04,200
Speaker 3: do what I think is gonna work best.

2049
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:06,360
Speaker 2: Like that's a weird, weird spot to be in.

2050
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:08,800
Speaker 3: But it's like, think about all that, you got a

2051
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 3: whole draft, right, Like, you can't just say all right,

2052
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:15,559
Speaker 3: we're gonna go no higher than sixty and a fifty

2053
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:18,840
Speaker 3: five here, right or nothing too rash. You're making all

2054
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:22,720
Speaker 3: these decisions that have massive ripple effects. So it is

2055
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:25,000
Speaker 3: it's a weird spot for the Vikings to be in

2056
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:27,640
Speaker 3: right now with no GM. All right, We've got rich

2057
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2058
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2064
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Speaker 3: up next. You always hear the phrase styles make fights. Well,

2065
01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:57,280
Speaker 3: we have two very different styles that will make this

2066
01:40:57,520 --> 01:40:59,000
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2067
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Speaker 3: All right, we got two very different styles Bama versus

2077
01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:34,560
Speaker 3: Tennessee UT favored by four and a half. And you

2078
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 3: just look at this. This is a contrast to styles

2079
01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 3: right here. Alabama their offense wide open, shoot a ton

2080
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:44,880
Speaker 3: of threes. They average ninety two point nine points per game,

2081
01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:49,000
Speaker 3: that's what they average in college basketball, they average ninety

2082
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:52,200
Speaker 3: three points per game. Tennessee's defense, they only give up

2083
01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:55,600
Speaker 3: sixty nine point one points per game. So just that

2084
01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:58,400
Speaker 3: when Alabama's on offense could be a lot of fun

2085
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:01,680
Speaker 3: to watch. And I would expect Tennessee to have more

2086
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:05,400
Speaker 3: success defensively than Alabama is used to seeing. And I

2087
01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:08,000
Speaker 3: would expect Tennessee to slow the game down a decent amount.

2088
01:42:08,160 --> 01:42:11,280
Speaker 3: So I just don't see Alabama going crazy offensively in

2089
01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:11,720
Speaker 3: this one.

2090
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:13,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2091
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 5: I focus a lot on tempo and college foot or

2092
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:19,080
Speaker 5: college basketball, and I think it's because of my time

2093
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:23,120
Speaker 5: playing football, both collegiately and professionally. I remember how important

2094
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:27,560
Speaker 5: tempo was in my sport, and there's carryover, you know,

2095
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:29,640
Speaker 5: because when you are the type of team that can

2096
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:32,960
Speaker 5: move fast, what it does is it shuts down things

2097
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:34,080
Speaker 5: that your opponent.

2098
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:35,440
Speaker 4: Can do to you. Defensively.

2099
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:38,080
Speaker 5: You know, it's a lot harder to set up and

2100
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:41,760
Speaker 5: play your style against a team that is forcing you

2101
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:45,559
Speaker 5: to think on the run constantly. That when the pace

2102
01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:48,559
Speaker 5: gets for a netick and there's one team that's used

2103
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:51,400
Speaker 5: to playing at that pace at that warp speed, and

2104
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:54,960
Speaker 5: there's another team that really struggles or is just not

2105
01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:57,800
Speaker 5: used to it all of a sudden, that can just

2106
01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:01,120
Speaker 5: be the key you need. Alabama they play like their

2107
01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 5: hairs on fire. They're bombing threes, they're playing the high tempo.

2108
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:08,560
Speaker 5: This is a team that just wants to get you

2109
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:11,639
Speaker 5: out of your comfort zone and just volume volume, volume,

2110
01:43:11,680 --> 01:43:12,519
Speaker 5: shoots you shoot.

2111
01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 4: Tennessee they want to grind you down, I mean, and

2112
01:43:17,240 --> 01:43:18,960
Speaker 4: so this is really one of.

2113
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 5: Those games where if styles makes fights, I'm really excited

2114
01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:27,759
Speaker 5: to see how this matchup late in the season looks.

2115
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:32,639
Speaker 5: I'm excited for this game because they are so unique

2116
01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:35,559
Speaker 5: in the way they're going to want to attack each other.

2117
01:43:36,120 --> 01:43:39,920
Speaker 5: Tennessee's offensive rebound is a real weapon, and it was

2118
01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:45,320
Speaker 5: in their first meeting Alabama. Like I said, they can

2119
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:48,760
Speaker 5: go on runs where if they catch fire, they can

2120
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:50,880
Speaker 5: make it hurt for ten or twelve points, and then

2121
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:55,400
Speaker 5: you're forced to call time out and reconsider life itself.

2122
01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 5: I'm very curious how this game goes today.

2123
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:02,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is one of the more intriguing Rick Barnes

2124
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:05,200
Speaker 6: teams because I do think they're a little bit better

2125
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:08,360
Speaker 6: offensively than maybe they get credit for. They're a decent

2126
01:44:08,439 --> 01:44:11,320
Speaker 6: shooting team their top forty and Ken Palm's offense. The

2127
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:14,880
Speaker 6: one thing that I would push back against in terms

2128
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:17,640
Speaker 6: of how good their defense is. They struggle in a

2129
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:20,439
Speaker 6: very key category that I am very high on in

2130
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 6: the tournament, especially because of the one and done nature,

2131
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:26,120
Speaker 6: and that's forcing turnovers. For a team that is very

2132
01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:29,680
Speaker 6: good defensively, they don't force a lot of turnovers and

2133
01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:33,519
Speaker 6: getting extra possessions I think is key, especially in the

2134
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:35,360
Speaker 6: one and done scenarios. Now, how much does it matter

2135
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:38,559
Speaker 6: against Bama, who plays so frantic and frenetic they might

2136
01:44:38,680 --> 01:44:41,800
Speaker 6: just turn it over themselves without having to worry about it,

2137
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 6: like they're really They turn it over a lot, and

2138
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:47,599
Speaker 6: I think that's a part of this game that I think,

2139
01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:49,040
Speaker 6: like when you look at this game on the surface

2140
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:51,599
Speaker 6: and you're like, Wow, Alabama and Tennessee are pretty even

2141
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:54,360
Speaker 6: the match team, So maybe you give Tennessee a couple

2142
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:57,000
Speaker 6: of points for being at home. But we're at four

2143
01:44:57,040 --> 01:44:59,479
Speaker 6: and a half here, so I do think at five.

2144
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:02,560
Speaker 6: We talk about key numbers in basketball, right, five is

2145
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 6: a key number in college basketball. If there's a five

2146
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 6: that flashes, this thing was five and a half, I

2147
01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:08,680
Speaker 6: got bet down to four and a half if you

2148
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:10,400
Speaker 6: see it, and you know, we got a few hours.

2149
01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:12,519
Speaker 6: This isn't until six o'clock Eastern, so you got time

2150
01:45:12,640 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 6: to kind of let the market marinate over the next

2151
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:17,000
Speaker 6: few hours and see what happens. But if this thing

2152
01:45:17,040 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 6: gets back to five at any point today, I would

2153
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:23,040
Speaker 6: be interested in the dog. I think at four and

2154
01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:25,840
Speaker 6: a half it's probably priced correctly. I think Tennessee is

2155
01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:28,200
Speaker 6: maybe slightly better at home. But I would say, Brian,

2156
01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:31,000
Speaker 6: these are relatively even the match teams in terms of

2157
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:34,240
Speaker 6: their metrics. Obviously Bama plays fast, Tennessee plays slow. But

2158
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:36,479
Speaker 6: some of the things that Tennessee maybe you would think

2159
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:39,720
Speaker 6: excels in, which is defense, forcing turnovers, grinding the game out,

2160
01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 6: It's not necessarily reflected in some of the numbers. So

2161
01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:46,479
Speaker 6: I do think Alabama, if they can get that offense

2162
01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:50,559
Speaker 6: revved a little bit, I think they're a live pooch

2163
01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:52,080
Speaker 6: in this game on the road in Knoxville.

2164
01:45:52,439 --> 01:45:54,200
Speaker 2: Interesting. Okay, how about another game?

2165
01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:57,920
Speaker 3: We got Arkansas against Florida, and if you're looking for

2166
01:45:58,160 --> 01:46:00,880
Speaker 3: up tempo went fast, I mean the razor man they're

2167
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:05,040
Speaker 3: flying around here. Florida plays good defense, so not quite

2168
01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:09,759
Speaker 3: the same real contrast in styles with Alabama and Tennessee,

2169
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:13,400
Speaker 3: but kind of like Alabama Tennessee light if you will,

2170
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:17,200
Speaker 3: with Arkansas and Florida. Florida plays really good defense. In Arkansas, man,

2171
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:19,000
Speaker 3: they can fill it up. Man, They're a really good

2172
01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:23,080
Speaker 3: offensive squad. Arkansas averages ninety point three points per game.

2173
01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:26,519
Speaker 3: Florida only gives up seventy one point two points per game.

2174
01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:29,920
Speaker 3: So that contrast the style is pretty interesting. You mentioned

2175
01:46:29,920 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 3: this earlier in passing Jared. Where really hard to score

2176
01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:35,200
Speaker 3: in the paint against Florida?

2177
01:46:35,479 --> 01:46:37,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just have the not just the twin.

2178
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:42,200
Speaker 3: The trio towers over there right like Condon howk gin

2179
01:46:42,240 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 3: you Lou, It's hard to score on them in the paint.

2180
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:46,840
Speaker 3: So I think Darius Acuff junior, he's gonna have to

2181
01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:49,800
Speaker 3: have a game. He's been a stud stud freshman this season.

2182
01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:52,519
Speaker 3: Gonna be a top ten pick. He is a scoring

2183
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:58,719
Speaker 3: point guard. He's like remember when when Derreck Rose played

2184
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:02,080
Speaker 3: for the Bulls, and certainly at Memphis where Derek Rose

2185
01:47:02,200 --> 01:47:06,000
Speaker 3: was a score scoring point guard. That's what Darius Acuff

2186
01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:08,360
Speaker 3: is like. He can distribute the ball. It's not like

2187
01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 3: he's a black hole out there, but he looks to

2188
01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:13,519
Speaker 3: score and he's going to have to win a game

2189
01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:15,200
Speaker 3: like this when it's hard to score in the paint.

2190
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 3: Acuff has got to be the man for Arkansas to

2191
01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:18,360
Speaker 3: have a shot.

2192
01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:23,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, resume wise, this is a top tier game for

2193
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:27,080
Speaker 5: both teams. I really do think it matters for seeding momentum.

2194
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:31,719
Speaker 5: If you look at the net, Florida and Arkansas both

2195
01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:35,920
Speaker 5: can either move off their seed line or potentially lock

2196
01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:38,479
Speaker 5: in a seed line late in season with a.

2197
01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:39,719
Speaker 4: Victory one way or another.

2198
01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:42,439
Speaker 5: And then you know, in terms of talking about how

2199
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:45,200
Speaker 5: styles make fights, in this one, it's just set up

2200
01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:48,439
Speaker 5: to be a track meet by design. Both teams are

2201
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:53,120
Speaker 5: really comfortable in that seventy possession per game mode, which

2202
01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:55,360
Speaker 5: means that this game's going to move fast. The ball

2203
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:58,240
Speaker 5: is going to be on opposite sides of the court constantly.

2204
01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:04,040
Speaker 5: We're going to see a high powered, elite level Florida

2205
01:48:04,240 --> 01:48:09,720
Speaker 5: defense against a high powered top tier Arkansas offense, and

2206
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:16,920
Speaker 5: I think that's kind of really the battle that we're

2207
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:23,680
Speaker 5: expected to see ken Arkansas solve the problem that Florida creates.

2208
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:26,719
Speaker 4: Defensively for them, that's the question that needs to be answered.

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Speaker 6: I really like this Arkansas team. I like the makeup

2210
01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:32,880
Speaker 6: of a Cuff as a scoring guard. And I'll tell

2211
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:35,240
Speaker 6: you what you want to talk about, a human highlight reel,

2212
01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:38,599
Speaker 6: Billy Richmond Man. He is a fricking He is an

2213
01:48:39,240 --> 01:48:43,920
Speaker 6: unbelievable high flyer, an aerial artist.

2214
01:48:44,840 --> 01:48:46,880
Speaker 2: So transition defense is going to be huge here.

2215
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:49,800
Speaker 6: I think Arkansas that's where they struggle, and Florida's got

2216
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:52,800
Speaker 6: that really good defense, right. They're really good rebounding team,

2217
01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:54,360
Speaker 6: and when you get rebounds, you can get out and

2218
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:57,080
Speaker 6: transition quick. The one thing that Florida really struggles with

2219
01:48:57,200 --> 01:48:59,640
Speaker 6: is shooting. They're not a great shooting team, and I

2220
01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:02,920
Speaker 6: think that's where in the tournament. If you have one

2221
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:05,600
Speaker 6: of those dud games, it doesn't matter how big you

2222
01:49:05,680 --> 01:49:08,120
Speaker 6: are physically and how imposing you are in the paint

2223
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:11,000
Speaker 6: if you can't knock down shots like I don't know

2224
01:49:11,080 --> 01:49:14,040
Speaker 6: if Florida has that bucket getter late in the game

2225
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:17,600
Speaker 6: like last year, it was obvious who their guy was.

2226
01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:19,599
Speaker 6: Like late in the game, you know, if they needed

2227
01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:21,920
Speaker 6: a tough shot, Walter Clayton was gonna be the guy.

2228
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:24,640
Speaker 6: And he delivered just time in and time out, and

2229
01:49:24,680 --> 01:49:26,960
Speaker 6: that's why they were unbelievable in the tournament last year

2230
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:30,120
Speaker 6: in National Champs. I know that they have a couple

2231
01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:33,439
Speaker 6: guys this year. Lee is an experienced senior. Boogie Flan

2232
01:49:33,560 --> 01:49:37,240
Speaker 6: of course, the transfer had a really interesting season at Arkansas,

2233
01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:39,439
Speaker 6: ironically enough last year, So it's a revenge game for

2234
01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:42,639
Speaker 6: Boogie fland Er. I guess maybe a revenge narrative game

2235
01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:45,320
Speaker 6: for Boogie Flan. But I do think this Florida team,

2236
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:48,320
Speaker 6: like if there is a path to going on the road,

2237
01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:50,160
Speaker 6: and I'm pretty sure they're undefeated at home too. I

2238
01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:52,040
Speaker 6: think they might have dropped one earlier this year. Yeah,

2239
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:53,680
Speaker 6: they dropped on to Auburn earlier this year, but the

2240
01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:56,280
Speaker 6: one loss at home this year. If you go on

2241
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:57,680
Speaker 6: the road, you go to the Odome and you want

2242
01:49:57,720 --> 01:49:59,840
Speaker 6: to win a game, you're gonna have to knock down shots.

2243
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:02,160
Speaker 6: You're gonna have to hope that this Florida team isn't

2244
01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:04,880
Speaker 6: making shots from the outside. But the one weakness that

2245
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:07,519
Speaker 6: I do see with Florida if they don't have that

2246
01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:10,680
Speaker 6: bucket getter this year. So if if they can get

2247
01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:14,240
Speaker 6: some of those eight cuff like, you know, tough late

2248
01:50:14,360 --> 01:50:17,479
Speaker 6: shot clock scenarios where he's knocking down the buckets and

2249
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:21,320
Speaker 6: Florida can't match, I think that might be the recipe.

2250
01:50:21,439 --> 01:50:24,200
Speaker 6: But it's a tall order today for Arkansas to go

2251
01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:25,680
Speaker 6: on the road and be Florida. But I do I

2252
01:50:26,479 --> 01:50:30,320
Speaker 6: this Arkansas team does intrigu They tickle me with some

2253
01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 6: of their playmakers when we get to the tournament.

2254
01:50:33,479 --> 01:50:33,960
Speaker 3: I like that.

2255
01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:34,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2256
01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:37,680
Speaker 2: One other game to mention in passing that I've got

2257
01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 2: my eye on.

2258
01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:42,320
Speaker 3: I am so intrigued by the nightcap here one of

2259
01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:45,679
Speaker 3: the later games, eight pm Eastern time, Villanova at number

2260
01:50:45,720 --> 01:50:49,400
Speaker 3: fifteen Saint John's. He might be like, why Saint John's

2261
01:50:49,439 --> 01:50:52,280
Speaker 3: only scored forty points the last time out against Yukon.

2262
01:50:52,720 --> 01:50:57,840
Speaker 2: They missed twenty four straight shots to close out the game.

2263
01:50:58,680 --> 01:50:59,560
Speaker 2: That is hard to do.

2264
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:03,639
Speaker 3: Last field goal was at the seventeen to twenty eight mark. Wow,

2265
01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:05,840
Speaker 3: in the second half, they didn't hit a sane there two.

2266
01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:10,320
Speaker 3: I think they're due against the against Villanova here and

2267
01:51:10,439 --> 01:51:11,080
Speaker 3: Saint John's.

2268
01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:11,680
Speaker 2: It's sticked up.

2269
01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:14,280
Speaker 3: They're now a seven and a half point favorite. But man,

2270
01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:17,799
Speaker 3: their offense has to be worlds better. They missed twelve

2271
01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 3: straight shots in the first half, and then, like I said,

2272
01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:23,280
Speaker 3: close the game, twenty four missed shots. It was just

2273
01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:28,280
Speaker 3: a few free throws and basically the entire second half

2274
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:31,120
Speaker 3: that they hit. That is unbelievable. Man, it is very

2275
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:33,679
Speaker 3: hard to miss twenty four straight shots. We're not talking

2276
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:37,360
Speaker 3: like twenty four straight three pointers. We're talking field goals.

2277
01:51:37,439 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 3: It could be five feet from the bucket and the

2278
01:51:39,479 --> 01:51:43,040
Speaker 3: paint nothing not us. So I'm really interested to see

2279
01:51:43,200 --> 01:51:45,759
Speaker 3: how many points Saint John scores today against Villanova.

2280
01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:47,080
Speaker 4: It's amazing.

2281
01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:50,519
Speaker 5: You know what you just highlighted is really my favorite

2282
01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:53,400
Speaker 5: part about college basketball, which is, and I know this

2283
01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:56,360
Speaker 5: is like sort of an overused sentiment, but it is

2284
01:51:56,560 --> 01:51:58,160
Speaker 5: truly a game of runs.

2285
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:01,320
Speaker 4: And it's hot runs, and it's runs, and that's why

2286
01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:01,880
Speaker 4: it's fun to.

2287
01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:05,880
Speaker 5: Bet, it's fun to live bet, because if you're paying

2288
01:52:05,920 --> 01:52:10,200
Speaker 5: attention to a game, you can feel it, especially if

2289
01:52:10,240 --> 01:52:12,519
Speaker 5: you've ever been in an arena. But if you're not

2290
01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:14,760
Speaker 5: so lucky, or if you're not so interested in you

2291
01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:17,959
Speaker 5: more are a casual fan or you're a college basketball

2292
01:52:18,040 --> 01:52:22,040
Speaker 5: watcher from the the sanctity and and the wonderful sanctity

2293
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:23,360
Speaker 5: is from from your couch.

2294
01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:26,600
Speaker 4: Man. Great, when you turn on a game and it

2295
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:28,439
Speaker 4: has your sole focus you.

2296
01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:33,840
Speaker 5: It doesn't always happen, but there are times where you're like, oh, man,

2297
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:37,200
Speaker 5: there's no chance, like there's no chance they're going to

2298
01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:39,920
Speaker 5: be able to emotionally overcome what just happened to them.

2299
01:52:40,360 --> 01:52:43,240
Speaker 5: And if you can open up a betting app like

2300
01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:46,040
Speaker 5: bet MGM, and you can you can log a bet

2301
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:49,720
Speaker 5: right there, right, then a lot of times that that

2302
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:53,360
Speaker 5: gut feeling is correct because if you're feeling it at home,

2303
01:52:53,960 --> 01:52:56,439
Speaker 5: imagine how it feels for the team in the arena.

2304
01:52:56,960 --> 01:53:00,760
Speaker 5: That's that's why it's so hard to dick these things

2305
01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:03,360
Speaker 5: on the front edge. But once you get in game

2306
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:05,799
Speaker 5: and you're seeing the momentum and you're seeing the swings,

2307
01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:08,760
Speaker 5: and you're understanding that a cold run can be just

2308
01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:12,960
Speaker 5: as costly as a hot run. Man, it's incredible that

2309
01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:18,720
Speaker 5: this sport i I. It's the unpredictability of it is

2310
01:53:19,880 --> 01:53:23,760
Speaker 5: harrowing for everyone who plays it. And that's the reason

2311
01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:27,439
Speaker 5: why the tournament's so fun to watch, because one and

2312
01:53:27,600 --> 01:53:31,200
Speaker 5: done means so much more when the better team really

2313
01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:34,640
Speaker 5: doesn't always win and and sometimes you know it like

2314
01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:36,840
Speaker 5: can be knocked out in the first round, like like

2315
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:39,880
Speaker 5: Virginia against U NBC, or you know, you could have

2316
01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:43,000
Speaker 5: these you know, Sister Christians of the Blind make their

2317
01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:45,160
Speaker 5: way to the Elite eight and you're like, how the

2318
01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:48,880
Speaker 5: hell did that happen? But it really is a game

2319
01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:49,439
Speaker 5: of runs.

2320
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:53,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll take Sister Christians in the blinds the points

2321
01:53:53,479 --> 01:54:03,120
Speaker 6: today today. Yukon is a very intriguing team in the

2322
01:54:03,160 --> 01:54:05,240
Speaker 6: Big East. I think they might be the only team

2323
01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:07,240
Speaker 6: that intrigues me in terms of making a deep run

2324
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:08,400
Speaker 6: in the Big East. Like when I look at Saint

2325
01:54:08,439 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 6: John's numbers. They had this unbelievable winning streak that was

2326
01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:15,360
Speaker 6: snapped the other night against Yukon. But they're like Florida Light,

2327
01:54:15,560 --> 01:54:18,360
Speaker 6: Like they're really they're not a good shooting team, and

2328
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:20,479
Speaker 6: they're really gritty. I mean, I love Patino. I think

2329
01:54:20,479 --> 01:54:22,040
Speaker 6: they've got a couple of dudes that scare me. I

2330
01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 6: like Hopkins the Providence transfer. He's to someone who could

2331
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:27,040
Speaker 6: absolutely be a bucket getter, but they don't have that

2332
01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:29,680
Speaker 6: like knockdown shooter, and they're a terrible three point shooting team.

2333
01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:32,240
Speaker 6: They don't take a lot of threes. So I'm worried

2334
01:54:32,240 --> 01:54:34,760
Speaker 6: about Saint John's in the tournament because of what Brian

2335
01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:38,720
Speaker 6: just mentioned. They can go on these ridiculous cold streaks

2336
01:54:39,080 --> 01:54:40,960
Speaker 6: and you do what you do that for five ten

2337
01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:42,960
Speaker 6: minutes in the tournament see Alida.

2338
01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:44,440
Speaker 2: It's so weird.

2339
01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:48,160
Speaker 3: They're like the complete opposite of Illinois, Right, like Illinois

2340
01:54:48,240 --> 01:54:50,880
Speaker 3: last night. They can score left and right, they can't

2341
01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:54,920
Speaker 3: play a lick of defense man, and so it's weird, right,

2342
01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:58,400
Speaker 3: Like what it's like one of those scenarios, how would

2343
01:54:58,440 --> 01:54:59,120
Speaker 3: you rather die?

2344
01:54:59,320 --> 01:55:00,520
Speaker 2: And it's like I'd rather not.

2345
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:05,520
Speaker 3: Those are horrible choices, But the choice between Illinois playing

2346
01:55:05,720 --> 01:55:08,840
Speaker 3: zero defense or Saint John's just going cold.

2347
01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:10,800
Speaker 2: We can't score for five minutes.

2348
01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:14,520
Speaker 3: They couldn't score for seventeen and a half minutes against Ukon.

2349
01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:15,520
Speaker 2: That's tough.

2350
01:55:15,680 --> 01:55:18,440
Speaker 3: It's tough to survive, no matter how tough or how

2351
01:55:18,560 --> 01:55:21,200
Speaker 3: how great you played defensively, it's hard to survive like that.

2352
01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:24,080
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Speaker 2: All right, come it up next.

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Speaker 3: Rapid Fire The moment of truth where I have, you know,

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Speaker 3: seven things I like, and I try to whittle it

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Speaker 3: down to three, and of course the three I choose,

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Speaker 3: there are like two of them that I miss and then.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, why did I pick those?

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Speaker 5: That?

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Speaker 3: That's the longer the title of rapid Fire, but that's

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Speaker 3: basically what rapid fire means to me.

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Speaker 2: We'll compare notes coming up next.

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Speaker 3: Maybe a plus two hundred pick from the rep. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 3: well plus money here today, we'll compare notes.

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Speaker 2: All right, we got some picks to make.

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Speaker 6: Let's do it.

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Speaker 4: Rapid fire.

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Speaker 2: Alrighty, Jared, we start with you. What do you like?

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Speaker 6: Air Force? Wyoming over one forty seven and a half.

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01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:58,040
Speaker 6: So air Force might be the worst theme in college hoops.

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01:57:58,040 --> 01:58:01,160
Speaker 6: They have not won a game since before Thanksgiving. I

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01:58:01,240 --> 01:58:04,400
Speaker 6: swear wo November twenty third, twenty one straight losses, so

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01:58:04,480 --> 01:58:07,600
Speaker 6: obviously they suck in every metric. They allow a lot

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Speaker 6: of quick buckets, but they do take a lot of threes,

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01:58:09,960 --> 01:58:13,240
Speaker 6: so does Wyoming. They take a lot of three. So volatility,

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Speaker 6: we love that. Over in Laramie today, Navy minus six

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Speaker 6: and a half against Colgate. Remember how bad air Forces?

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01:58:19,760 --> 01:58:25,000
Speaker 6: Navy is better. Twelve straight wins, second longest winning streak

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Speaker 6: in the country. There's sixteen to one in Patriot League play.

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Speaker 6: I'll lay six and a half points today against Colgate.

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01:58:30,360 --> 01:58:33,000
Speaker 6: They played a tight game at Colgate two weeks ago.

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01:58:33,040 --> 01:58:34,880
Speaker 6: They won by four in overtime. Colgate made a ton

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Speaker 6: of threes in that game, which they don't usually do.

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Speaker 6: I think maybe handles them at home today and covers

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01:58:39,240 --> 01:58:40,960
Speaker 6: the six and a half. And my favorite play to

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Speaker 6: day Missouri on the money line at Mississippi State. So

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Speaker 6: don't lay the one and a half here, because if

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01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:48,040
Speaker 6: they win by one, I'll be furious. Minus won twenty

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Speaker 6: five on the money line. Mississippi State trending way down.

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Speaker 6: They're three and ten in the Secson starting two to zero,

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Speaker 6: and I like this Missou team. They are long, Mark Mitchell,

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Speaker 6: Trent Peershwan Phillips. I think they're gonna bully the bulldog today.

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Speaker 6: Give me the zoo on the money line.

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Speaker 4: All right, I got Vandy.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna kick this off with Vandy covering the one

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Speaker 5: and a half against Kentucky.

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Speaker 4: When you look at offensive efficiencies.

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Speaker 5: It's the exactly exact kind of disparity you want to

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Speaker 5: see when you're laying a short number.

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Speaker 4: So I really like this.

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Speaker 5: When you look at Kem Palm, the numbers workout analytically.

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Speaker 4: Duke.

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Speaker 5: I'm going with the Duke. He's covering nine and a

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Speaker 5: half today against Virginia.

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01:59:30,080 --> 01:59:33,280
Speaker 4: Here's why. I just think that Duke is so much

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Speaker 4: better than.

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Speaker 5: Virginia, so so much better than Virginia in every single category.

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Speaker 5: I think this is going to be a blowout victory.

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01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:44,560
Speaker 5: And then to make up for last week. I got

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Speaker 5: to take some long odds here, and I thought, what

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01:59:47,760 --> 01:59:52,080
Speaker 5: better way than to herald the man who caught the problem. Okay,

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Speaker 5: then to take the fighting.

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Speaker 4: Irish on the money line. Yeah go, So I got

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Speaker 4: notre Dame taking on enc on the money line. I'll

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Speaker 4: give you one good reason.

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Speaker 5: Look, they're playing at home, they're great on the ports,

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Speaker 5: they're plus on rebounding.

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Speaker 4: That means extra.

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Speaker 5: Possessions might get the crowd behind them. I'll take the

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Speaker 5: fighting Irish over then, se stay woke.

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Speaker 2: Back all right?

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Speaker 3: Plus two twenty five love it. I was gonna go

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Speaker 3: all unders and underdogs, but Texas Tech team total tick down.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna take the six seven.

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Speaker 2: And a half, but it's now sixty six and a half,

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Speaker 2: so we gotta let that one go.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Virginia Rich. I'm gonna go plus ten

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Speaker 3: and a half. That's minus one twenty so what we

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Speaker 3: need is due to win by ten exactly. We both win,

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Speaker 3: all right, Good Blazers plus seven and a half. They

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Speaker 3: shouldn't be that big of an underdog. A cuff over

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Speaker 3: twenty two and a half points.

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Speaker 6: Nice