WEBVTT - The Tues Cruise: Archibowlago

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal. I'll that for me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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<v Speaker 1>for dake Edo state. Is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Woo woo?

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<v Speaker 1>And Dan and tie Aho follow.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome aboard your two's cruise. This is your captain, Captain

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<v Speaker 2>Ty hilden Brand joining me.

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<v Speaker 1>Did I do that right?

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<v Speaker 2>You?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you did it very gus. Captain Jackish, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think was very appropriate.

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<v Speaker 2>Joining me is Lieutenant Captain Dan Rubinstein a board here

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<v Speaker 2>on the ship, Sir, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm great? And this I've just realized is not a

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<v Speaker 1>nautical term, but it could be. Are you familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>the term safe harbor? I am? So what to you?

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<v Speaker 1>What does safe harbor mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Safe harbor means that you go to a place where

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<v Speaker 2>you're safe and secure.

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<v Speaker 1>That seems reasonable. Yes, So in the broadcasting world, safe

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<v Speaker 1>harbor hours I think between ten pm and six am,

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<v Speaker 1>And even though we're not recording this after ten pm,

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<v Speaker 1>we're recording it a good three hours after we normally would.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is factually correct. So I'm gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's two's cruise later than usual, I'm gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>this qualifies for safe harbor hours, which is when you

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<v Speaker 1>can if if you watch a TV show, there is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be more violence or maybe a butt that's

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<v Speaker 1>shown on their tie, or maybe it's just the nature

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<v Speaker 1>of the theme on that TV show. If it's after

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<v Speaker 1>ten PM, before six, they're not doing.

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<v Speaker 2>No no, no, hold on, We're not doing the Dennis Franz

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<v Speaker 2>butt shot. Here are podcasting, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying the rules are a little bit looser

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<v Speaker 1>between in those safe harbor hours, sure, or maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>safe harbor hours or before then, whatever it is. So

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<v Speaker 1>I guess our first segment is called boat. I'm just kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you believe that. I really do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna have I know we have families listening. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have to bleep that. But this is twoes cruise

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<v Speaker 2>after dark. Yes, in more ways than one. As you said,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a little bit later. Normally when we record it's

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<v Speaker 2>light out side, it's not at the moment. It's also

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<v Speaker 2>sort of the darkness of the season. Now the sun

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<v Speaker 2>is set on our season. We've got Bowl games that

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to be talking about. By the way, you

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<v Speaker 2>can sign up for the soliverbo Bullpool. If you're listening

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<v Speaker 2>to this, you want to go to soliverbal dot com

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<v Speaker 2>slash pick them. It's an address you're familiar with because

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<v Speaker 2>you used to go there weekend and week out to

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<v Speaker 2>pick your games against the spread. Your ten games, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>now you got forty one to pick. It's confidence style,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's not against the points spread. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be breaking down all of these games. We're still working

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<v Speaker 2>out the schedule, but alas we're going to go through

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<v Speaker 2>all of them. Last year, I think we had like

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<v Speaker 2>a thousand people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was a good number.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a healthy number, so you're going to want

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<v Speaker 2>to get in on that. Always a ton of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>But we are back here for yet again, a two's cruise,

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<v Speaker 2>bright and early Tuesday morning. Daniel, Shall we start with

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<v Speaker 2>some news things going on before we get into our games.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to brick news. There's new coaches, there's transfer portal,

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<v Speaker 1>they're bowl games. Where do you want to begin.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start with some of the coaching news. A couple

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<v Speaker 2>names here to read, and then maybe we can go

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<v Speaker 2>through them and give some thoughts. USF gets Jeff Scott,

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<v Speaker 2>the co offensive coordinator and wide receivers coach for the

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<v Speaker 2>Clemson Tigers.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that we're leading with the bulls. Great, awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado State maybe Butch Jones, Yeah maybe. See Missouri makes

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<v Speaker 2>it official with Eli Drinkwitz for me from app State, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Arkansas like fours for the Drinkwitz family. Saw going Sam

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<v Speaker 2>Pittman bringing him back. Florida State announcing that it is

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<v Speaker 2>hiring offensive coordinator Kenny Dillingham, an up and comer coming

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<v Speaker 2>over from Auburn.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and was with Mike Norvell in Memphis and so

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty well regarded and has experience with him. Odell

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<v Speaker 1>Haggens also staying aboard and that was not intentional, but

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<v Speaker 1>I've just the nautical terms are so they've wormed their

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<v Speaker 1>way and he is staying on as a defensive line

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<v Speaker 1>coach and I think associate head coach at Florida State.

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<v Speaker 1>Lane Kiffin had his introductory press conference, had a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of solid goofs. I don't know if you sign any

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<v Speaker 1>of that. Somebody asked him about being greeted on the

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<v Speaker 1>tarmac with you know, babies to kiss, and he said

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<v Speaker 1>a lot better than last time at tarmac, A lot

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<v Speaker 1>better than last time. So talked about previously owning some

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<v Speaker 1>really nice suits and then he got he got fat

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<v Speaker 1>at Alabama his words, gained a bunch of weight, That's

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<v Speaker 1>what he talked about. This is not me editorializing. So

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<v Speaker 1>they filled up like the basketball Jim. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was a looked like a pep rally. So there's excitement,

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<v Speaker 1>there's optimism in Oxford and the lane train has pulled in.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're I wouldn't say happy, but you are

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<v Speaker 1>intrigued at the prospect of Penn State having a new

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<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator with Ricky Ronnie going over to the Monarchs of.

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<v Speaker 2>ODU, potentially additioned by subtraction here with Ricky Ronnie taking

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<v Speaker 2>the old Dominion job. I talked about it on the

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<v Speaker 2>last podcast. There are a great many Penn State fans

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<v Speaker 2>who are pleased with this announcement and curious to see

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<v Speaker 2>what Penn State does. There's a lot of scuttle but

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<v Speaker 2>that they're going to promote from within, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>I think it'll be a welcome change.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome change.

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<v Speaker 2>So a little bit of stale play calling a time,

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<v Speaker 2>some questionable stuff that didn't improve from year one to

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<v Speaker 2>year two under Ricky Ronnie. So we'll see which direction

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<v Speaker 2>James Franklin decides to go. But as Penn State alum

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<v Speaker 2>and part time Penn State fan, I'm pretty pleased with this.

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<v Speaker 1>Any Sam Pittman thoughts, I'm asking you about a notable

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<v Speaker 1>position coach, not somebody who has been a recent coordinator

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<v Speaker 1>or head coach at a major place. But if you've

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<v Speaker 1>watched any video of him, he seems excitable. He seems enthusiastic,

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<v Speaker 1>and his track record as an offensive line coach and

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<v Speaker 1>his track record in Fayetteville should mean that he I

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<v Speaker 1>would imagine there's excitement around Arkansas recruiting. It's I mean

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<v Speaker 1>signing days in like a week and a half. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's relax with this here.

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<v Speaker 2>But moving forward, here's my question about the Sam Pittman move.

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<v Speaker 2>Since he was there under Brett Bilma, Yeah, is this

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<v Speaker 2>signaling that they want to get back to the heyday

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<v Speaker 2>of Brett Bieloma at Arkansas? I bring Sam Pittman.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I think they want to get back to the

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<v Speaker 1>heyday of protecting quarterbacks and opening up holes for running backs,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever system that looks like. Because by the end of

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<v Speaker 1>his tenure there, and obviously Sam Pittman left early, Arkansas

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<v Speaker 1>was throwing the ball a lot. It was not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>lining up a fullback every time and mashing it three

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<v Speaker 1>yards at a time. So Arkansas tried to evolve the

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<v Speaker 1>hired dan Enos. Obviously it didn't fully work out, but

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<v Speaker 1>they did try to bring their offense into a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a more modern look. I think the Sam Pittman

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<v Speaker 1>hire is good. Obviously, anybody reacting to these hires without

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<v Speaker 1>looking at how they fill out their staffs and how

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<v Speaker 1>they recruit for like two years, it's going to be premature. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>Arkansas interviewed a number of people, they had conversations with people,

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<v Speaker 1>and Sam Pittman probably was not the number one guy

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<v Speaker 1>on their list. Maybe he was, who's to say. But

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<v Speaker 1>in any case, I'm intrigued by it because I think

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<v Speaker 1>there there is some coach onus to him in that

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<v Speaker 1>there is enthusiasm that he's not trying to be polished.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. So hopefully it works out. He's gotten

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<v Speaker 1>his Now he gets a shot at a pretty major

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<v Speaker 1>coaching job, and Arkansas moves forward. Eli Drinkwitz only at

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<v Speaker 1>app State for a year. He's been around though, he

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<v Speaker 1>was you know Boise, he was at Arkansas State and

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<v Speaker 1>obviously NC State, so you imagine his coaching network is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good if he's not a complete awful person, and

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<v Speaker 1>Miszoo is a place where a good coach can win.

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<v Speaker 1>The SEC East is not chalk full of killers, so

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see. I think I think he's pretty well regarded,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm rooting for Mazoo to improve after what they

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<v Speaker 1>put on the field this year, So we'll see it.

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<v Speaker 1>The one year thing is it feels like he's, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>grabbing the opportunity while he can no.

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<v Speaker 2>Fair enough, fair enough, and Jeff Scott coming over from

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<v Speaker 2>Clemson I think is notable. Willy Taggart was rumored for

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<v Speaker 2>that job, wasn't he He was?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he had rumored interest. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>everything was mutual at every high place within USF, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it'll be interesting to see where Willy Taggart

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<v Speaker 1>falls moving forward in the coaching ranks, sure, and otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if there's anything. I mean, the Jeff's

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<v Speaker 1>got things interesting. Obviously, He's helped to develop a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of excellent receivers while while at Clemson is well regarded,

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<v Speaker 1>was making I think seven figures as a co offensive

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator with Tony Elliott. So it's been a while since

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen anybody get poached from that Clemson staff. So

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose somebody like Jeff Scott was waiting for the

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<v Speaker 1>right opportunity, and certainly you can win pretty big at

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<v Speaker 1>USF as we've seen recently.

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<v Speaker 2>In some other transfer news, Jake Bentley, formerly of South Carolina,

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<v Speaker 2>of course got hurt. He is making the move over

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<v Speaker 2>to Utah. Just announced it before we hit the record

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<v Speaker 2>button tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it makes sense. Obviously, there is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a quarterback competition in Salt Lake City, and the development

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<v Speaker 1>of Tyler Huntley certainly makes Utah an attractive destination. They

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<v Speaker 1>lose a blue chip quarterback last year to transfer. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he ended up at Indiana, So yeah, has an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to step in and helm which should once again

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<v Speaker 1>be a pretty good offense.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, Jordan Love is pondering his next to move. He's

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<v Speaker 2>looking at Oklahoma, looking at Houston, and of course looking

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<v Speaker 2>at rejoining his old coach Matt Wells at Texas Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we saw not this obviously, not twenty nineteen. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a pretty up and down year for him. Considered

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<v Speaker 1>to be second or third tier draft quarterback. He probably

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<v Speaker 1>needs to show out better than he did this year,

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<v Speaker 1>so it makes sense. Coaches left where he had success

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago, and he can be pretty

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<v Speaker 1>high level. I don't know if Oklahoma is going to

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<v Speaker 1>again do the one year thing with a quarterback. They've

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<v Speaker 1>got a couple good ones waiting, but place like Texas

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<v Speaker 1>Tech with the injury issues and the health issues Alan

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<v Speaker 1>Bowman has had Houston, we don't know what exactly is

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen with Derek King. All signs point to

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<v Speaker 1>him returning, but not official. So he's I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a good quarterback when he is the right system and

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<v Speaker 1>the right coaches.

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<v Speaker 2>And finally, your four Heisman finalists have been announced. Joe Burrow,

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<v Speaker 2>Justin Fields, Jalen Hurts, and Chase Young. Anyone else that

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<v Speaker 2>should be on that list? Daniel that isn't I think JK.

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<v Speaker 1>Dobbins had a wonderful year, but adding a third Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>State player seems kind of like overkill. So no, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, is there anybody for you? Travis y Kann

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<v Speaker 1>had a marvelous year, but he wasn't counted on because

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<v Speaker 1>they just blue teams that just invite Joe Burrow. He's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna win. He's gonna win. The Jonathan Taylor tailback put

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<v Speaker 1>up a bunch.

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<v Speaker 2>Of two hundred yards JTT going there. There are other

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<v Speaker 2>names around college football that had remarkable seasons, and if

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<v Speaker 2>they were recognized by being a Heisman finalist, I'd be

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<v Speaker 2>cool with it. But you know how I feel about

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<v Speaker 2>the Heisman. I've never been a huge fan of the

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<v Speaker 2>Heisman Trophy. I don't really care who doesn't win. Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Burrow is very clearly going to win this year, so

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<v Speaker 2>if he were the only one invited, I'd be fine

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<v Speaker 2>with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's correct. I mean, Trevor Lawrence. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty clear case that any conversation about the best

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<v Speaker 1>players is actually offensive skill players that doesn't involve Trevor

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<v Speaker 1>Lawrence seems incomplete. But he struggled early on in the year.

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<v Speaker 1>He was certainly Heisman esque his last whatever seven or

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<v Speaker 1>eight games.

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<v Speaker 2>He's Heisman caliber for sure. Yeah, Heisman caliber for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>He's probably a top five pick next year.

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<v Speaker 1>But Chuba Hubbard goes for almost two thousand. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're just naming very good, not necessarily with

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<v Speaker 1>a running back. I do like to see some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of all purpose contribution. And I don't have Chuba Hubbard's

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<v Speaker 1>receiving numbers or return numbers in front of me. If

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<v Speaker 1>he really contributed there but didn't stand out like a

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<v Speaker 1>Christian McCaffrey, I would say, shall we get to our

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<v Speaker 1>first game of the evening, Daniel, Let's get to the

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<v Speaker 1>first game. Our first game is titled it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>say out loud, Arcabolagore year Here it just means more.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that sound. I'm playing anything, Sorry please here

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<v Speaker 1>here Here its.

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<v Speaker 2>More beautiful, Daniel, How does this game work?

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<v Speaker 1>So ty? When we are you and I sailing to

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<v Speaker 1>a cluster of islands, we need to prioritize our itinerary.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically, if we are imagining the bowl lineup as

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<v Speaker 1>a cluster of islands, cluster of islands Micronesia, somewhere in

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<v Speaker 1>the South Pacific, maybe the Philippines, we have to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out where we want to hop on and hop off. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to figure out the importance of one what

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<v Speaker 1>we care about and two who actually cares more in

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<v Speaker 1>the game. Hence the here it it matters more just

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<v Speaker 1>what is it? What does she say? You might have

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<v Speaker 1>to play it again. It just means more. Well, let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's listen again. Just means more here, here, here, it

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<v Speaker 1>just means just means more. Dan. Okay, so this is

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<v Speaker 1>a talking point we have every year. And oh well, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously Auburn lost to UCF, but they didn't really care.

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<v Speaker 1>They lost the SEC championship games, so you see, have

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<v Speaker 1>cared more. Obviously, Alabama didn't care about beating Utah in

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<v Speaker 1>the Sugar Bowl. Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be there, right. I understand that from a human

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<v Speaker 1>perspective that sometimes it's tough to really give you all

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<v Speaker 1>when you're disappointed about where you are in the bowl lineup.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think that's everything. I think teams try.

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<v Speaker 1>This is when and even though bowls and bowl results

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily matter for future results, perhaps as we saw

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<v Speaker 1>with Texas last year in the Sugar Bowl. Correct, Correct,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these games are on TV when no

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<v Speaker 1>other games are, and so they do matter in that

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<v Speaker 1>this is a showcase for a lot of players who

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps have not had a ton of attention, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of teams, a lot of coaches. Now we have interim coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>we have players sitting out, you know, we have disappointment.

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<v Speaker 1>We have overly excitable teams because of where they ended

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<v Speaker 1>up and who they might be playing. So all that

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<v Speaker 1>is true, I think we should go and look at

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<v Speaker 1>games and single out teams who to us should be

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<v Speaker 1>caring more than the other team or should be carrying

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<v Speaker 1>less based on circumstance, and figure out going into bull

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<v Speaker 1>season instead of doing it after the fact. Yes, this

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<v Speaker 1>team is going to depth care more or less. You

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<v Speaker 1>are a speaking my language dog, Yes I am. I

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<v Speaker 1>knew you'd like this. You are speaking my language.

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<v Speaker 2>As we get into our official Bowl preview or we

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<v Speaker 2>start assigning confidence points to some of these results, I

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<v Speaker 2>have a formula that I stick to religiously, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>real big on this. I am big on teams that

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<v Speaker 2>are motivated going into bull season, teams that maybe have

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more to play for, even if they

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<v Speaker 2>are a dog, I will tend to favor that team

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<v Speaker 2>over a more established blue blood program if I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like they've just got more to play for. It's more,

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<v Speaker 2>there's more on the line for them, right there. Just

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<v Speaker 2>means more, thank you. There are countless examples of teams

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<v Speaker 2>who just mail it in in Bowl season, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not right all the time, but it's a primary component

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<v Speaker 2>in my off season formula. So I did give some

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<v Speaker 2>thought to this. You want to you want to start

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<v Speaker 2>start hammering.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me say this. Let me start here. Generally speaking, here,

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<v Speaker 1>it just means more. It just means zero played again,

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<v Speaker 1>why not? Very stupid. It's later than usual, safe harbor.

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<v Speaker 1>It just means more.

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<v Speaker 2>So I will generally strike any team that lost a coach. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>any team that lost a coach. There are one or

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<v Speaker 2>two notable exceptions this year, one being Washington. They haven't

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<v Speaker 2>lost Chris Peterson's the it's his final game, so I

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<v Speaker 2>think there'll probably be an emotional angle there that I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't want to overlook.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's against Boise State. Be a very poetic way

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<v Speaker 1>to finish out his coaching career if this is indeed

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<v Speaker 1>the end.

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<v Speaker 2>The other one I was looking at was Florida State. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and right now ASU is favored over Florida State in

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<v Speaker 2>the Sun Bowl. Mee, Tony the Tiger sun Bull. Excuse me, Nay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like people are overvaluing ASU. They have all year,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe in this game as well. I could see

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<v Speaker 2>Florida State getting up for that one. Those are the

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<v Speaker 2>two games where I'm willing to look past coaching changes.

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<v Speaker 2>But in almost every other case, I dock that team

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit going into bull season. It's just a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of a different mindset going into Bull season

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<v Speaker 2>knowing that you're going to be losing your coach.

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<v Speaker 1>It's difficult to mine for Bill Stewart's May he rest

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<v Speaker 1>in peace. Doesn't mean I'm picking against app State. I

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<v Speaker 1>still the gap States the better team. They're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to lose.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's the first thing I look at. The second

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<v Speaker 2>thing I tend to look at is teams that felt

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<v Speaker 2>like they got better from the start of the year

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<v Speaker 2>to the end of the year, particularly teams that played

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<v Speaker 2>really well down the stretch. So Tennessee might fit that

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<v Speaker 2>Mold Tennessee really came on second half.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the year. Don't want to give them a look. Yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a big believer in the disproven element of momentum. Yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>To the contrary, Let's take a look at what happened

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<v Speaker 2>at Miami. Okay, Miami's going up against Louisiana Tech. Currently

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<v Speaker 2>they're a touchdown favorite. Do you feel good about the

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<v Speaker 2>way Miami closed out its season?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I mean, Miami is your classic, Like, how far

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<v Speaker 1>back do we have to look to find a Miami

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<v Speaker 1>bold dud of a performance when they just want the

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<v Speaker 1>season to be over? Oh just last year, Oh just

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<v Speaker 1>in the pin stright.

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<v Speaker 2>Miami ran out of gas a mile ago and have coasted, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>all the way through the end of the season. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need to go into elaborate detail here, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think you understand the cut of my jib here.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Charlotte is going to be quite excited to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the Bahamas their first Bowl game first year

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<v Speaker 1>for Will Healy shows up in this is the This

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<v Speaker 1>is the Bahamas Bulls, the first one December twentieth, shows

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<v Speaker 1>up to announce to the team in their meeting room

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<v Speaker 1>in like a maskin snorkel and a tank top and

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<v Speaker 1>the flippers. They're excited to go to the Bahamas. Get

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<v Speaker 1>they might get trucked by Buffalo, It's entirely possible, but

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<v Speaker 1>they are the clear more excited team after Buffalo went

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<v Speaker 1>to the MAC Championship last year and had a down

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<v Speaker 1>year this year, losing a couple of key players on offense.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's right, fau SMU. The only thing I

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<v Speaker 1>will circle about SMU is, I will always treasure SMU

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<v Speaker 1>in a bowl game, even though they got murdered. When

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<v Speaker 1>it happened when Sunny Dyke's was hired once Chad Morris left,

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<v Speaker 1>they did get murdered, and he was like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm free if you want me to coach. My schedule's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty open. And they proceeded to get murdered. But I

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<v Speaker 1>do respect that, So I think SMU is probably in

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<v Speaker 1>a better place than FAU. Without laying I would agree

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<v Speaker 1>with that that falls under your coach and Corel one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me posit a different theory for you. Okay, which

0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:14.960
<v Speaker 2>team was on the precipice of qualifying for the College

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<v Speaker 2>Football Playoff and faltered?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh? Utah, Utah Utes, Baylor Bears. Now I'm talking to Utah.

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<v Speaker 1>You got it right the first Oh Utah. Okay, there

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<v Speaker 1>were a couple of teams that you know, figured they

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<v Speaker 1>had a shot organ of the week before.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Utah going to the Alamo Dome, San Antonio squaring

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<v Speaker 2>off against Texas. Utah is favored by seven in that game.

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<v Speaker 2>But okay, the proverbial wind I'm assuming is out of

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<v Speaker 2>their sales now after not having made playoff. They're going

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<v Speaker 2>to the Alamo Bowl, which is a fun bowl game,

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<v Speaker 2>but it lacks the appeal of obviously being in the

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<v Speaker 2>final four. Meanwhile, Texas is in a spot where they

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<v Speaker 2>can play giant killer Utah's defense man.

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<v Speaker 1>That's such a weird way to define this matchup. Texas

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<v Speaker 1>going in there is just like the gutty little underdog,

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<v Speaker 1>the scrappy gym rats, just trying to make a name

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<v Speaker 1>for themselves. They're seven and five. You're not. You're positioning

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<v Speaker 1>Texas in maybe a slightly disingenuous way, That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to sell the twos cruise. Damn'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>similar tenders to get a board the twos cruise.

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<v Speaker 1>Utah looked terrible last year against Northwestern in San Diego.

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<v Speaker 1>If that means anything too, it does just means more. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they also looked very bad last year in

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<v Speaker 1>the PAC twelve championship game, So I don't know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's another carryover for the Utes.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just curious to see how Utah looks in that game,

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<v Speaker 2>curious to see if they can get their head on straight.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, along the coaching lines of Texas Utah.

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<v Speaker 1>We do know that Tom Herman gets jacked up for

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<v Speaker 1>bowl games. Oh yeah, we saw all the arguing against

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<v Speaker 1>Miszoo two three years ago. We saw it last year.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the excitement obviously with how well Texas played

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<v Speaker 1>against Georgia. So there is that element where there is

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<v Speaker 1>a strong possibility that Texas has an up and down year.

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<v Speaker 1>They beat a playoff adjacent Utah, and everybody's like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Herman is going to hire a couple of great

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<v Speaker 1>coordinators there. The feeling is great on the forty Acres again,

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like just a natural thing to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you the natural trap for me. The natural

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<v Speaker 2>trap for me is in the Outback Bowl. It's Minnesota

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<v Speaker 2>and it's Auburn. Auburn is favored by seven and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was in a similar situation a year ago

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<v Speaker 2>where Perdue made the Music City Bowl, also played against Auburn,

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember thinking, I remember and you cautioned me

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<v Speaker 2>against this, Yeah, but I remember thinking Perdue is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be way more into this game than Auburn. What

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<v Speaker 2>does Auburn care about paying about playing Purdue? And in

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<v Speaker 2>my confidence, but I didn't put a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 2>points on it, but I took Purdue straight up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they lost six, three.

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<v Speaker 2>To fourteen in that game, Dan, I was dead wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe not a testament to my little formula here,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was fun while it lasted.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes there is an element of does one team have

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<v Speaker 1>players who are way way better, right, and that should

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<v Speaker 1>be considered in matchups like that. How do we feel

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<v Speaker 1>about Michigan Alabama? I think Alabama will blow the doors

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<v Speaker 1>off of them. I think, I agree, I think, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it helps that and if you remember Alabama, I

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<v Speaker 1>think faced off against Michigan State in was it a

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<v Speaker 1>Capital One Bowl a while back, and it was like

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<v Speaker 1>a forty one to seven game. Now starting quarterback I

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<v Speaker 1>presume was healthy. I think the fact that it is

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan and it's not I'm going to be terribly insulting

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<v Speaker 1>to somebody, so I'll just you know, it's not Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>where I think it would be more difficult for Alabama

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<v Speaker 1>to get up for a game like that. The fact

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<v Speaker 1>that Jim Harbaugh is on the other sideline, that there

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<v Speaker 1>are NFL players on the Michigan defense, the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>there are top flight receivers really on both teams, but

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<v Speaker 1>on Michigan wearing you know, Mason blue. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>makes it easier, even though Alabama certainly had designs of

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<v Speaker 1>going to the playoff with Tua. Right, So I still

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<v Speaker 1>think Alabama's up for this game, and I still think

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<v Speaker 1>they're comfortably better. So did I play this game correctly?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure. Oh it's unclear, But I mean, just

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<v Speaker 1>going through if I just name teams and I won't

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<v Speaker 1>put you on the spot, you know too dramatically here

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<v Speaker 1>with you know, teams from very different conferences, but like

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina Temple right, year one of Rod Carey for Temple,

0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:43.159
<v Speaker 1>certainly a lot of changes in Philly, North Carolina probably

0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 1>happy to be in a bowl game after taking some

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:49.800
<v Speaker 1>years off. Larry Fedora. It feels like, I mean, it's

0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:51.920
<v Speaker 1>what it's in Maryland, so you can get a lot

0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:55.160
<v Speaker 1>of Tar Heel fans there. I feel like North Carolina

0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:58.879
<v Speaker 1>is probably the happier team. There's excitement about Sam Howell

0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:02.280
<v Speaker 1>and Mac Brown agreed, agreed, and it should be a

0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:05.480
<v Speaker 1>nice matchup North Carolina's offense against Temple's defense. Oklahoma State,

0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Texas A and m who is super into going to

0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Houston for all the way from college Station, Texas and

0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:16.439
<v Speaker 1>still Water, Oklahoma. Is Oklahoma State happy with you know,

0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 1>they lose a couple, you know, big players in Spencer Sanders,

0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Tylan Wallace. Texas A and M very difficult schedule bright spots.

0:25:24.520 --> 0:25:27.119
<v Speaker 1>Is it difficult for Texas A and M to go

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<v Speaker 1>against a former Big twelve opponent of theirs and essentially

0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:32.960
<v Speaker 1>play in Texas A and M suburbs?

0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 2>I think A and M is going to drill Oklahoma State. Ooh,

0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:40.040
<v Speaker 2>I like that they are going to drill Oklahoma State.

0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:44.040
<v Speaker 2>I've been waiting for this Bowl matchup, not specifically against

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma State, but facto home game.

0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Well the facto home game.

0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:50.399
<v Speaker 2>But I've been waiting for A and M's matchup because

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:53.400
<v Speaker 2>we knew this going into the year that their schedule

0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:57.000
<v Speaker 2>was gangbusters. They had to have a miracle season to

0:25:57.080 --> 0:26:01.840
<v Speaker 2>put together like a nine win year five. They fell

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:08.200
<v Speaker 2>now to the Texas Bowl, and I was ready willing

0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:11.080
<v Speaker 2>and able to bet pretty much sight unseen on A

0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:14.960
<v Speaker 2>and M regardless of who they played. So Oklahoma State,

0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:17.320
<v Speaker 2>they'll have their work cutout for him trying to stop

0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:20.720
<v Speaker 2>Chewba Hubbard. But I think A and M's one of,

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 2>if not the best seven to five teams in the country.

0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:29.000
<v Speaker 1>The Holiday Bowl features an Iowa team who year and

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:30.560
<v Speaker 1>in year out, you seem to know what you're getting

0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:33.960
<v Speaker 1>from them, top flight defense, maybe a couple offensive playmakers,

0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:36.480
<v Speaker 1>but in a system that's not terrific. And a USC

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 1>team who finished the year with two very different emotions

0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:45.240
<v Speaker 1>or at least on the field, a ton of confidence

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 1>and yardage and points blowing out their rival. I mean,

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:50.359
<v Speaker 1>we're really scoring a ton of points on the rival.

0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:53.440
<v Speaker 1>I think they finished winning what five of six off

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:55.920
<v Speaker 1>They have the best true freshman quarterback in the country.

0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Probably maybe it's a conversation between Sam Howel and Keaton Slovas.

0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 2>See I I think USC is the perfect storm of

0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:11.640
<v Speaker 2>Bowl success here because not only did they meet one

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 2>of my first qualifiers there where they got better, I

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 2>think they got better down the stretch ket and Slovas

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 2>surely did. And secondly, I think they get a little

0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 2>bit of a boost knowing that they're not losing their coach,

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 2>They're retaining Clay Helton. I think if you're on the team,

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:28.080
<v Speaker 2>you feel good about that.

0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:31.120
<v Speaker 1>No one on the Tian Merrill's poking around, though, well,

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:33.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm still uncertainty with what the what the coaching staff

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:35.200
<v Speaker 1>is going to look like as a whole.

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 2>There is uncertainty, but they're keeping the head guy, and

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 2>I think that's reason for optimism here in this game.

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 2>I was only a one point favorite. Vegas is every

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 2>bit is confused about this game, as the rest of US.

0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:51.520
<v Speaker 2>I did make my picks, I didn't go through them.

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I haven't done that yet.

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 2>I put a whole lot of research in but at

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 2>at first blush, I'm going USC.

0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:00.479
<v Speaker 1>Here's your I'm looking this up as we are doing this.

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Iowa against Big ten teams, the number five team in

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:08.639
<v Speaker 1>the country, opposing quarterback rating. Change it to FBS winning

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:12.720
<v Speaker 1>teams thirty seventh. Yeah, so hard to fully gauge what

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Iowa's pass defense is going to look like against a

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:17.400
<v Speaker 1>pretty good USC team. But either way, I think that's

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:20.880
<v Speaker 1>actually one of my nine or ten Bowl games I'm

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 1>looking forward to most, maybe even higher. I agree. So

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I think Iowa actually is happier to be there than USC,

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:30.840
<v Speaker 1>just because of all the noise surrounding USC, even though

0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:33.800
<v Speaker 1>they know the Trojans finished the year a pretty exciting way.

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame Iowa State. Yeah, where's the care factor for you? There?

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Iowa State. I hype them up as much as I

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>possibly could. They come up short a couple times where

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 1>they really had a chance to win nine or ten games,

0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:49.000
<v Speaker 1>taking on a Notre Dame team who seems to be

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 1>happy with their ten and two year and being competitive

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:56.320
<v Speaker 1>against good against everybody, essentially, So, what are your thoughts.

0:28:56.560 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame had quietly a very very November. They did.

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 2>By the time the calendar turned to November, they had

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 2>kind of fallen off the national radar, and so I

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 2>don't know if that got as much coverage as it deserved.

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 2>But they played really well. Ian book looked pretty good.

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I think they're better top to bottom than Iowa State.

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 2>Iowa State's going to test them through the air, and

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:21.480
<v Speaker 2>it figures to be a fun game. Notre Dame is

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:24.960
<v Speaker 2>only about a field goal favorite going into this one.

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:28.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if this one really checks any of

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 2>the boxes in terms of an advantage for one team

0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 2>or the other. I think both teams will be up

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 2>playing in this game.

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame beating Iowa State is not a, you know,

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:40.520
<v Speaker 1>a thing to take into the off season. The way

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 1>that Iowa State beating Notre Dame is it isn't.

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think Notre Dame is going to be

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 2>so let down that they come out and put in

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 2>a bad showing.

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 1>The red box ball. Oh yeah, you want to talk

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 1>is Oregon back in this game? Unfortunately, Oregon's going to

0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 1>a startup game called the was Abel. I'm reading that incorrectly.

0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Florida Virginia, we don't need to talk about the red

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 1>box now.

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 2>Sorry.

0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Florida Virginia to me is interesting, Okay, Why well, I

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 1>don't think Virginia really thought they stood much of a

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>chance against Clemson. They make it to a New Year

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 1>six Bowl, Florida should beat the doors off of them.

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I would think so, yes, But there is an element

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 1>of Florida seeing their opponent and saying it's we're talking

0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 1>about an acc coastal team that didn't really do much

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 1>to separate themselves from anybody else in the coastal. It's

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>not a headline program. It's not as if Florida got

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:41.720
<v Speaker 1>to play against Baylor, which is a weird thing to say,

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 1>or Florida's not getting to play against usc even where

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:47.120
<v Speaker 1>it's just like, oh, this is like a cool thing

0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 1>that there's a bunch of super duper high level players

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 1>on the field that are going to be NFL type players.

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Florida's not playing Wisconsin, They're not playing Michigan like they

0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 1>did last year and blew them out. So I don't

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:04.200
<v Speaker 1>know this one. To me, I think Virginia is going

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 1>to care more. I would agree with you on that one. Yeah,

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Florida's not traveling away from their home state, which I

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 1>know is no new thing for the Gators. I don't know.

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 1>I think Virginia definitely cares and wants to be there more.

0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I think it just means more to the Who's what

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 1>about Georgia Baylor.

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm not excited to watch the game and I

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 2>think it's gonna be very defensive minded, but it is notable.

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 2>Of course, it's a New Year's six game, so that's

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 2>one thing. Secondly, as we talked about on the Sunday Show,

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 2>first Sugar Bowl since nineteen fifty seven for Baylor, I

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 2>think Matt Rule will have them fired up.

0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah.

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 2>And on the other side, it's interesting because didn't Georgia

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 2>lose in the Sugar Bowl last year to Texas. They did,

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 2>so perhaps a redemption spot for the Bulldogs.

0:31:56.720 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Yep, but they want to be in the PLAYFF right,

0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 1>they were the number four team.

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 2>So I guess what I'm asking is which do you

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 2>trust in more Baylor's excitement about being there or the

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 2>redemption spot for Georgia not wanting to be in a

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:15.320
<v Speaker 2>situation like they were last year when they dropped one

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 2>against Texas.

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but nobody talked about the Sugar Bowl against Texas

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 1>basically once the season started. That's just sort of an

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 1>off season narrative thing. I don't think there is a

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>revenge spot element of Georgia wanting to beat the Big

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 1>twelve team in the same bowl game they were in

0:32:30.040 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 1>last year. It's it's Baylor, the care factors Baylor. The

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 1>only difference to me is are Georgia's players so much

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:40.200
<v Speaker 1>better and more talented than Baylor's that it doesn't make

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 1>a difference. I like Baylor because of the care factor here,

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:46.960
<v Speaker 1>but I haven't really gone in deep but in terms

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 1>of just pure cares, my.

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 2>Answer this game was one that I was truly on

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 2>the fence about, and I think Georgia is the better team.

0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 2>The players are better. If I were betting this game

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 2>in Week three, I would one hundred percent go Georgia.

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 2>But there are other factors at play when you get

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 2>into the postseason, and the care factor I think looms large.

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Maybe debunked Dan, but yeah, it is something that I

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 2>pay attention to.

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I have my own system that I will reveal once

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 1>we start picking the games, excell or the pick and pool.

0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 1>My final question to you is Indiana, Tennessee and the

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Gator Bowl in a beautiful tropical Jacksonville, Florida. Man, I

0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 1>have no idea.

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 2>So I talked about Tennessee before Tennessee got better as

0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 2>the year war on. Yeah, Indian has been pretty good

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 2>totally the full way through. Their issue was that they

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:42.480
<v Speaker 2>ran into a bunch of buzzsaws back.

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 1>To back to back. Yeah, and Penn State and Penn

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 1>State thank you. So it's a good football team, uh huh.

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 2>I think at this point maybe more of a proven

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 2>entity just as a team. I just want care factor.

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 2>Who wants twenty nineteen more. I still think it's Indiana

0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 2>against an SEC team. Raw.

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I think both these teams are like pumped to be

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 1>in a bowl game, to finish their season and to

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 1>have the success and how competitive they were. Yeah, I

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:16.919
<v Speaker 1>think everybody wants this for the first time being Jacksonville

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>fair enough, What is our next game? I was that

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 1>was my last one that I was curious care factor wise.

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 1>But if you have any others that jump out to

0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:30.719
<v Speaker 1>you to mention nothing that Minnesota wants to be in

0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:32.400
<v Speaker 1>the Outback Bowl more than Auburn.

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Definitely, But I don't want to talk about that game

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 2>that could that could really ruin things for me.

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Oregon Wisconsin feels pretty equal, right, oh, Wisconsin lost playoff design.

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:48.240
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea who I'm picking in that game.

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Oregon goes four and eight two years ago, three years ago,

0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 1>whatever it was, and now here they are on the

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Rose Bowl. I think they're pretty pumped. All right, Dan,

0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 1>what's our what's our last game? Here? Seven? I don't

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 1>have a sound for this, and this is slightly forced

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 1>pun wise, but it's called or not or a r

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 1>both ors in the water, and so I just have

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:14.880
<v Speaker 1>this is a conventional wisdom game. Because we have reached

0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:18.239
<v Speaker 1>the end of our pre bowl season, I guess the

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:23.000
<v Speaker 1>regular season short of Army Navy, excuse me, So first question,

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I got five of these. So upon reflection, we've seen

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:31.359
<v Speaker 1>another select committee make their their top four picks. So

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:36.319
<v Speaker 1>winning your conference ty your Power five conference, should it

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:40.239
<v Speaker 1>be a college football playoff prerequisite? Now? I think six

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 1>years in or something or not a prerequisite. Yes. So

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 1>we've seen We've seen Alabama get in without winning their

0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:55.920
<v Speaker 1>conference and even their division. We've seen instances and conversations

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:59.760
<v Speaker 1>around it doesn't matter what happened, like you said yourself,

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:02.279
<v Speaker 1>matter what would happen in the Big Ten championship game.

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State should be in. They ended up taking care

0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 1>of business. But should that actually be It's a very

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 1>popular thing to say, win your conference and then you

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 1>can get into the playoff. No. No, I said it

0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 1>like a week ago.

0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:25.439
<v Speaker 2>I said that if LSU lost, I could definitely see

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:26.359
<v Speaker 2>them still being in.

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I said it.

0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 2>About, well, you could see them being Ohio State. I

0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:31.840
<v Speaker 2>thought Ohio State was in regardless. I thought that was

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:32.560
<v Speaker 2>the right call.

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 1>They were. I'm not so good all year. I'm not

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:38.719
<v Speaker 1>asking you to appraise what the committee will do. I

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 1>am saying the tie rule of law, the tie law,

0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 1>if you will, Okay, sure you see what I did.

0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I like it. It's a football joke that I didn't

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 1>pre plan. Just it's later than usual. That's what happened,

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 1>thy law. Where where do you stand? I'm fine? You're

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:58.360
<v Speaker 1>in charge. I'm fine with it. Okay, totally fine. That

0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:01.399
<v Speaker 1>has proven themselves in your mind, but has not won

0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 1>their conference. I don't have a strong thought about this.

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I try to have as strong a take as possible

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:11.040
<v Speaker 1>about as much as I can in the sport. I'd

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:13.919
<v Speaker 1>prefer it. I would definitely prefer it. I would.

0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 2>I would prefer it too. I'm not going to be

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 2>closed minded. If they ever were to expand to eight teams,

0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:24.960
<v Speaker 2>then it would be a prerequisite. Then if you win

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:28.279
<v Speaker 2>your conference, you're in. But help us for now, I'm

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 2>okay with the committee deciding who it feels the best

0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:33.960
<v Speaker 2>four teams are, regardless.

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:38.200
<v Speaker 1>You have a preferred eight team model like five conference champions,

0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:40.960
<v Speaker 1>G five and two wild cards. That's what I prefer.

0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 1>That's almost exactly it. Yeah, okay, the next or or

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 1>or not the Big twelve is heading back to wide

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:54.759
<v Speaker 1>open quarterback and offensive excitement any given week or maybe

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 1>not so. These past few years, we've had Baker Mayfield,

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray, Will Greery and Rudolph I'm forgetting a number.

0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:05.839
<v Speaker 1>You know, Sam Ellinger has been involved in shootouts, and

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:09.439
<v Speaker 1>we've had great receivers at Oklahoma State we've had even

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:12.359
<v Speaker 1>Kansas State, it's involved in occasional shootouts, and we've had

0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:15.240
<v Speaker 1>big time quarterbacks and we don't know what to expect.

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, in Bedlam and Baylor, TCU, Bryce Petty, Tremon Boyken,

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Kenny Trill, all these guys were capable of putting forty

0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:25.839
<v Speaker 1>five on the scoreboard in any given week. That wasn't

0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:27.880
<v Speaker 1>the case this year in the Big Twelve. No, not

0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:30.239
<v Speaker 1>at all. And a lot of that has to do

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 1>with new coaches and scheme changes and year one of

0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:35.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of action and you know, some disappointment from teams.

0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:38.839
<v Speaker 1>Do you see us getting back to that level with

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:42.239
<v Speaker 1>the addition of Matt Wells and Chris Cleman and Neil

0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Brown and Les Miles. Do we see part two of that?

0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:49.320
<v Speaker 1>When so much of this conference is reliant on Texas

0:38:49.360 --> 0:38:49.800
<v Speaker 1>for talent?

0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I see it by maybe four teams at

0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 2>the top. But Patrick Mahomes and person, sure, sure, yeah,

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 2>I see it by maybe four teams in in the

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:11.839
<v Speaker 2>Big Twelve, certainly Oklahoma and Texas and Oklahoma State and

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:14.719
<v Speaker 2>maybe Baylor if they can get their act together. Is

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:21.359
<v Speaker 2>in that conversation Texas Tech was many wrong things this year,

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 2>but they were a lot of fun to watch an offense.

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:25.520
<v Speaker 1>They were kind of they were without their starting quarterback too.

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, without their starting quarterback, Alan Bowmen British comedy legend

0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Alan Bowa. But wow, are we getting back? That's sort

0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:35.400
<v Speaker 2>of a loaded question. Are we getting back to wide

0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:36.719
<v Speaker 2>open Big twelve football?

0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:42.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I say no. I say no. I expect West

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Virginia to keep improving on offense, but they had a

0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:49.400
<v Speaker 1>singular offensive mind in Dana Holgerson for a long time,

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:53.200
<v Speaker 1>built up a system, recruited Florida really well. I don't.

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 1>I think Neil Brown's good, but I don't think they

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:58.759
<v Speaker 1>have an offensive mind like Dana Holgerson. I think Oklahoma

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 1>State will be pretty good, but I don't. You know, again,

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:06.839
<v Speaker 1>they had Dana Holgerson as well. They Mike You're sick.

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:08.879
<v Speaker 1>They tend to hire pretty well. So I think they're

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:10.480
<v Speaker 1>still going to be pretty good Oklahoma. I don't have

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 1>concerns about Texas. Will see if they get Graham Harrell.

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 1>If they get Graham Harrell, Texas, yes, will will be

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:18.040
<v Speaker 1>on that level in terms of being able to put

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:21.120
<v Speaker 1>forty on anybody. But I don't think Matt Rule is

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:22.719
<v Speaker 1>going to get to that point with Baylor just because

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:25.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he really fancies that style.

0:40:25.640 --> 0:40:30.279
<v Speaker 2>No, No, that's a defense first right program down there.

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Less Miles and Kansas are going to

0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:33.800
<v Speaker 1>get to that point. I don't think Kansas State is

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 1>going to try and the way that Matt Rule has

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:38.279
<v Speaker 1>not tried to have that wide, wide open offense. So

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to be an adjusted era of

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Big twelve football. It could be an era with more defense.

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know, if football cyclical, that would be

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:51.240
<v Speaker 2>a nice change of pace with Big twelve.

0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Because you notice I didn't mention TC. I noticed a

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:59.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of Kith right now? Next or not Georgia and

0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:05.520
<v Speaker 1>its offense. Did they simply run into an LSU juggernaut

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:08.759
<v Speaker 1>or are there serious problems? They were able to get

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:12.799
<v Speaker 1>by with defense pretty much all year or all year.

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:14.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they lost South Carolina, but it wasn't because

0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:19.840
<v Speaker 1>of a horrible defense. Wow, is this a significant issue

0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 1>that needs to be addressed given how well they recruit

0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 1>and what we perceived their ceiling to be because of

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 1>their athletic level. Their athletic level is ridiculous. Sure, they

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:34.319
<v Speaker 1>have recruited off the charts Kirby Smart has done a

0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:40.719
<v Speaker 1>remarkable job, but fiftieth in the nation in points per game.

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I know that's not the only metric, but.

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I I don't know how I feel about this.

0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 2>I was very underwhelmed by Jake from this year. He

0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:53.120
<v Speaker 2>did a lot of the right stuff, a lot of

0:41:53.160 --> 0:41:56.600
<v Speaker 2>his experience, knows where to go at the ball. He's

0:41:56.960 --> 0:42:00.000
<v Speaker 2>a KG veteran at this point. He's not gonna lose

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 2>a game for you. But as I think was a parent,

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:06.440
<v Speaker 2>especially with so many receivers going down, which wasn't his fault.

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:10.279
<v Speaker 2>But when he has to singularly go out there and

0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:12.880
<v Speaker 2>win a game, I don't know if he's if he

0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:15.160
<v Speaker 2>if that's like the formula that is gonna do it

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:19.120
<v Speaker 2>for Kirby Smart. This year's offense may have been so

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:21.919
<v Speaker 2>underwhelming that it forces him to come back.

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 1>James Coley, offensive coordinator, has not really succeeded. No in

0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:31.719
<v Speaker 1>places that can recruit well and should be putting up

0:42:31.760 --> 0:42:34.200
<v Speaker 1>top twenty to twenty five offenses nationally.

0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:38.560
<v Speaker 2>This was a concern, yeah, about him taking over the offense.

0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, there's a bit of a track record there.

0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I think they were fine. They were good under Jim Cheney.

0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:48.720
<v Speaker 2>They were really good and good offense, Yeah, really good.

0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:52.640
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if it's a scheme thing. It's

0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:57.240
<v Speaker 2>certainly not a talent thing, so I need more data

0:42:57.280 --> 0:43:00.360
<v Speaker 2>on this one. They did run into a juggernaut of

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:05.960
<v Speaker 2>lsulc's defense played lights out. Nobody is stopping that LSU offense.

0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:09.839
<v Speaker 2>So did they run into a juggernaut, yes, But are

0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:13.480
<v Speaker 2>their issues with the offense. I'm inclined to say yeah.

0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:16.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's anything horrible. I think it's fixable.

0:43:16.840 --> 0:43:19.279
<v Speaker 2>But at the same time I expected more.

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:23.239
<v Speaker 1>I think there's something wrong with the offense. I think

0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:25.880
<v Speaker 1>the long stretches they went and whether it was a

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:30.080
<v Speaker 1>weather game, whether they did not play a schedule of

0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:35.239
<v Speaker 1>absolute killers. Defensively, they should be putting forty points on

0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:39.120
<v Speaker 1>everybody with an experienced quarterback with DeAndre Swift when the

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 1>and obviously receivers were out and out for parts of

0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:46.400
<v Speaker 1>the LSU game. They've put together top three recruiting classes.

0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:50.520
<v Speaker 1>They've had at times nine, ten to eleven blue chip receivers.

0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 1>If they're not figuring out how to get to forty points,

0:43:54.040 --> 0:43:56.520
<v Speaker 1>thirty five points, thirty one points, I have them as

0:43:56.560 --> 0:44:00.359
<v Speaker 1>thirty first in points per drive. That's an issue. It's

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:02.279
<v Speaker 1>all about the context of what you're trying to do.

0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Georgia's offense needs a serious revamping. All right, that's next question.

0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:13.240
<v Speaker 1>The Big Ten second tier. So I have it as Wisconsin, Michigan,

0:44:13.280 --> 0:44:16.359
<v Speaker 1>Penn State. You might have a problem with that because

0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I think there is Ohio State standing alone in the conference. Sure,

0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:22.279
<v Speaker 1>as we've seen this Yere. I don't think Minnesota is

0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:24.239
<v Speaker 1>there yet, just because we'd like to see it over

0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:30.160
<v Speaker 1>multiple years. Is that trio Wisconsin, Michigan, Penn State. Are

0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:36.040
<v Speaker 1>they closing the Ohio State gap even slightly or not? Really?

0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:39.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to talk specifically about Penn State.

0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, And Penn State is closing the gap at least

0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:46.600
<v Speaker 2>in one respect.

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Your voice is going up? Is it bey on in

0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:51.720
<v Speaker 1>one respect?

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:56.319
<v Speaker 2>In one respect? Yeah, and that is recruiting. They're still

0:44:56.400 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 2>not recruiting quite as well as Ohio State. Nobody is right.

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 1>According to the.

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:05.759
<v Speaker 2>Blue Chip Ratio, Ohio State was first this season, so

0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:11.000
<v Speaker 2>they're tops in that game. But there is more depth

0:45:12.000 --> 0:45:15.920
<v Speaker 2>at Penn State than there has almost ever been. The

0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:18.560
<v Speaker 2>depth of talent that they have that James Franklin has

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:22.759
<v Speaker 2>built up is what they're going to need to continue

0:45:22.800 --> 0:45:26.799
<v Speaker 2>having if they want to seriously challenge Ohio State on

0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:27.280
<v Speaker 2>the field.

0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:29.960
<v Speaker 1>So you need that. They're going to run into that

0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:33.240
<v Speaker 1>Georgia problem then where they have the talent, but especially

0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:35.200
<v Speaker 1>on offense, as we saw this year a pretty up

0:45:35.239 --> 0:45:37.600
<v Speaker 1>and down ride, are they going to like, what are

0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:39.680
<v Speaker 1>we doing with all this talent? We have kJ Hamler,

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:43.640
<v Speaker 1>we can't get him going consistently. We have whoever, Noah Kane,

0:45:43.680 --> 0:45:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Journey Brown, Johan Dotson, I think justin Shorter left. But

0:45:47.239 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a lot of talented dudes who can

0:45:49.400 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 1>tote the rock and they're not scoring a ton against

0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:54.839
<v Speaker 1>decent teams. And then you want to know why I'm

0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:57.399
<v Speaker 1>glad that Ricky Ronnie took the Monarchs job. Sure there

0:45:57.400 --> 0:46:00.840
<v Speaker 1>you go, yeah, okay, so you think that's oh that's

0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:04.120
<v Speaker 1>closing the gap by subtraction.

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, yes, and no, I'm curious to see what a

0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:11.839
<v Speaker 2>new Week offense, if there is a Newalk offense, can

0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:15.239
<v Speaker 2>do for the team next year. They've got a lot

0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:19.640
<v Speaker 2>coming back. And furthermore, to my larger point here, I

0:46:19.719 --> 0:46:23.680
<v Speaker 2>just think there's more talent. There's more talent, at least

0:46:23.680 --> 0:46:26.680
<v Speaker 2>in that respect. They are somewhat closing the gap.

0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I think the gap is actually closing, and I'm not

0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:34.600
<v Speaker 1>sure whether it's anything that these three teams are doing.

0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:37.799
<v Speaker 1>I think just so Ohio State right now is what

0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:39.799
<v Speaker 1>they have a top what appears to be a top

0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 1>five recruiting class. I presume that's probably gonna hold with

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:49.840
<v Speaker 1>how they finish. Ryan Day inherited the world. He absolutely

0:46:49.920 --> 0:46:53.960
<v Speaker 1>inherited the world, and he brought on a former number

0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:58.120
<v Speaker 1>one quarterback in the country in Justin Fields. He inherited

0:46:58.239 --> 0:47:01.000
<v Speaker 1>an All American running back in jk He inherited in

0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:04.319
<v Speaker 1>All American Heisman finalist defensive end in Chase Young. He

0:47:04.480 --> 0:47:07.520
<v Speaker 1>hired really well see if Jeff Hafley six around on

0:47:07.520 --> 0:47:11.920
<v Speaker 1>that defense. But I think the gap is closing just

0:47:12.000 --> 0:47:16.520
<v Speaker 1>because it will be pretty much impossible to continue what

0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:20.120
<v Speaker 1>urban Meyer did in Columbus right, not to say he

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:23.200
<v Speaker 1>won't call eleven in one every year, that's entirely possible.

0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I think Ohio State's gonna recruit crazy well still, and

0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:28.359
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be a stocked roster. But I think

0:47:28.360 --> 0:47:32.960
<v Speaker 1>the gap is closing just because it's impossible to say

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State is just going to go twelve to zero

0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:38.560
<v Speaker 1>every year. No, No, I agree, sight unseen. So yeah,

0:47:38.560 --> 0:47:41.840
<v Speaker 1>I think the GAP's closing a little, but there's still

0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:42.399
<v Speaker 1>some room.

0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, until we see a season in which Ohio State

0:47:48.160 --> 0:47:51.880
<v Speaker 2>loses to two of these teams, I think they've still

0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:53.680
<v Speaker 2>got a fair amount of breathing room.

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:56.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, Ohio State plays in week two of next year.

0:47:57.000 --> 0:48:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Who you're Oregon Ducks and Adsen nice home and home. Yeah,

0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:05.880
<v Speaker 1>it should be pretty fun. Well week after Oregon plays

0:48:06.040 --> 0:48:11.480
<v Speaker 1>North Dakota State beautiful. It's terrifying. Final question here? Final

0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:13.239
<v Speaker 1>or not? You can read it off.

0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Someone from the PAC twelves middle class Oregon State, Cal Washington, UCLA,

0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:28.600
<v Speaker 2>or Arizona State, Yeah, can jump up or so a

0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:30.680
<v Speaker 2>note here, All of those teams that I read, all

0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:32.440
<v Speaker 2>five of them went four and five.

0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and these are all the teams, all the teams

0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:38.440
<v Speaker 1>that were within a game of going five hundred. There

0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:41.880
<v Speaker 1>were no five and four teams. USC I think finished

0:48:41.880 --> 0:48:44.680
<v Speaker 1>seven to two. And then Oregon in Utah obviously the

0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:48.080
<v Speaker 1>class of the conference. Are we these are your middle

0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:50.800
<v Speaker 1>tier teams at least as it stands after twenty nineteen.

0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that was gonna be my question because I don't.

0:48:53.800 --> 0:48:55.439
<v Speaker 1>Can zoo has been very good.

0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:59.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't consider Washington to be middle class.

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:01.439
<v Speaker 1>You think they're on the upper tier.

0:49:01.560 --> 0:49:05.239
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Okay, it wasn't a great year for them, but

0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:08.160
<v Speaker 2>I still think the program is in the upper crust

0:49:08.200 --> 0:49:09.000
<v Speaker 2>of the PAC twelve.

0:49:10.160 --> 0:49:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that they can return to the level

0:49:12.200 --> 0:49:14.560
<v Speaker 1>they were? What was it twenty sixteen when they went

0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:17.960
<v Speaker 1>to the playoff? Like consistent double digits. It's Jimmy Lake.

0:49:17.960 --> 0:49:19.480
<v Speaker 1>We don't know what they're going to look.

0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Like incomplete hard to say, to say my gut is

0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:26.000
<v Speaker 2>no right, but I'll be rooting for Jimmy Lake.

0:49:26.280 --> 0:49:31.279
<v Speaker 1>UCLA Chip Kelly, Herm Edwards bringing in Hugh Jackson. Cal

0:49:31.320 --> 0:49:33.719
<v Speaker 1>They lost their offensive coordinator today, Bo Baldwin, I think

0:49:33.760 --> 0:49:37.960
<v Speaker 1>has taken over reportedly at cal Poly Jonathan Smith and

0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Oregon State coming on strong back half of the season. Yeah.

0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:45.239
<v Speaker 1>Is there room for one of these teams as you

0:49:45.280 --> 0:49:47.000
<v Speaker 1>see it? Is there? Do you have confidence in there

0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:51.240
<v Speaker 1>being room in the VIP room of the PAC twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm confident that there's room, but I'm not confident that

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<v Speaker 2>any of these teams are going to occupy it.

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<v Speaker 1>So the other teams that are not mentioned here are

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<v Speaker 1>the University of Arizona, University of Colorado or yeah, University

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<v Speaker 1>of Colorado, let's see you, and Wazooka and Stanford. Wow, Stanford.

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<v Speaker 1>So now are we confident? Are you confident that Stanford

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<v Speaker 1>just had a disaster of a year or if it's

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<v Speaker 1>if it's slip time. It was such a disaster of

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<v Speaker 1>a year for them, wasn't it. Yeah? I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>slip time for Stanford.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're seeing a ton of transfers. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there might be leg there may be legs to David

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<v Speaker 1>Shaw looking at the NFL, I don't know. How do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel about this question of these five teams specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>if this is what we're going to consider the mid tier,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a lot of faith. No, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of faith. I think the PAC twelve

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<v Speaker 1>is going to and you'd be pretty top heavy. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Oregon State can win seven or eight. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>all these teams could win seven or eight. But in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of getting back into that exclusive room now, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's just USC Utah and Oregon right now that.

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<v Speaker 2>I have the only team in here. Big confidence in

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<v Speaker 2>the only team in this group being that I feel

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<v Speaker 2>okay about would be Washington, but all the others, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel okay, yeah, I think Washington's as close as

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<v Speaker 2>it gets. But they're incomplete. It's it's really hard to

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<v Speaker 2>make that presumption right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Incomplete. Okay, Well, there you have it?

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<v Speaker 2>Or not?

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<v Speaker 1>An archie bolago? Did I say that right? It's like no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like an archipelago, so arcabolago.

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<v Speaker 2>Here here, here, it just me We love that sound

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<v Speaker 2>all right? You Well, we will be back on Thursday morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's going to talk through other news. That's short

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<v Speaker 1>of break. What are we talking about? Yeah, I had

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<v Speaker 1>to think about it. Maybe get dive. We'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Army Navy.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about some other stuff going on in and

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<v Speaker 2>around the world of college football.

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<v Speaker 1>Not doing the ball preview.

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<v Speaker 2>Next episode, but we're gonna get there in a hurry. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>one of these football games.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan oh, I am, I'm pretty excited. For Bowl season times.

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<v Speaker 1>Me too. I am. I do some cooking. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>down to Florida the family for vacation and to watch

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<v Speaker 1>some games down there in the sunshine. I need a breather.

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<v Speaker 1>I need a breather. We've been on this boat. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hanging out here. What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>We've been on this boat so damn long, all season,

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<v Speaker 2>flowing around out here sand ghosts. Yeah, I need to

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<v Speaker 2>get back on land to just chill. Okay, fair enough,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you to one and all for joining us aboard

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<v Speaker 2>the two his crews here. This is your Captain Tie

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<v Speaker 2>Hilding brand Captain Tie Hildon Brandt, alongside Lieutenant Captain Dan Rubinstein,

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<v Speaker 2>Fair winds and following seas will talk to you on

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday and I Menytimes, stay solid.

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<v Speaker 1>Peace