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Speaker 1: Knows Live from Tom Baland or so called SoCal Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Who Was, the history clues show that gives

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Speaker 1: You know this show is like Jeopardy, only with surprise guests,

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Speaker 1: That's right, it's our special Brother's Day episode. I don't

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Speaker 1: It's quality, not quantity, Elliott, exactly. Not everyone has to

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Speaker 1: they'll buy hats that look like your hat. Mr Berno,

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Speaker 1: our special Mother's Day episode. It's not real. Well listen,

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Speaker 1: Elliott got on board Trip. You'll get there eventually. You'll

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Speaker 1: you'll feel it. You'll get there eventually. Trip better feel

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Speaker 1: it because Trip one with thirteen points, Trip is our

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Speaker 1: I would like to thank my family. I would like

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Speaker 1: we're receiving a selection of Who Was books, and I'm

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Speaker 1: Jane Kennie, Eric Chris Ferry for being our Jacob Grimm

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Speaker 1: of our contestants. Thank you so much to you at

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Speaker 1: home for listening. Next week, please come back to us,

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Speaker 1: we'll be learning who Was two more amazing people from history.

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Speaker 1: Until then, this is Elliott Caylin's way or the High

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Speaker 1: Whalen's Way, Calin saying we're history. Goodbye. Everybody got a

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Speaker 1: Podcast is produced by a Radio Point, I Heart Media

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Speaker 1: and Penguin Workshop, based on the best selling Hugh h

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Speaker 1: Q series published by Penguin. The show is hosted by

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Speaker 1: Elliott Calin with co host Megan O'Neill as b and

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Speaker 1: also starred Jane Baker as producer Jane, Eric Shackney as Eric,

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Speaker 1: and Chris Ferry as Jacob Grimm. Executive producers are Richard Corson,

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