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Speaker 4: We don't talk about today.

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Speaker 1: Hector must have been living in Bro.

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Speaker 5: The Hector's awesome.

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Speaker 6: But it was like the game was at the start

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Speaker 4: And it was it was over before it even started.

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Speaker 5: Like it was bad.

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Speaker 6: Like I don't know this Hurricanes team, like they kind

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Speaker 6: They have like one really good pitcher who was like

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Speaker 6: MLB right now, I'll be ready, but could be drafted

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Speaker 6: pretty highly. And then maybe the other pictures are kind

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Speaker 6: of are kind of difficult to talk about because you know,

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Speaker 6: some of their stuff isn't probably capable, capable like today

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Speaker 6: is crazy to even think about. He used eleven pictures

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Speaker 6: looking out of some good prospects from it. Gators have

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Speaker 2: But it's hard.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about the MLB banning the shift?

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Speaker 4: It hurts the Marlins to be honest.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I don't really know a lot about

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Speaker 1: But to be honest, the players did agree to it. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Players, I think I'm just trying to do something so

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Speaker 6: we got one thing now, you know, if we agree

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Speaker 6: But it just really depends the owners and then the

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Speaker 1: They held, Yeah, like an hour and a half meeting. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's baseball. I assume they'll cancel more games, but let's

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Speaker 6: I think we're probably gonna there's another series, maybe two,

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Speaker 1: And they made just make I think, make the bases

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Speaker 1: bigger is better?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why. That's why he's Yeah, yeah, that's why.

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Speaker 6: But oh, Alex, I guess the bases larger makes it better,

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Speaker 3: Okah, there we go, Hi Alex.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Hi?

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Speaker 4: Kevin?

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Speaker 3: What's that?

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Speaker 2: Bro?

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Speaker 1: What's up to us about this this MLB stuff?

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Speaker 1: Is making the bases bigger, better or worse for the game?

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Speaker 8: Well, the base is being larger. I'm not I'm really

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, I don't I don't think that

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Speaker 8: It will make sliding into second base easier for players

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Speaker 4: So I think it will promote more.

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Speaker 4: But the rule changes are fine.

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Speaker 1: Even the the MLB shift. The shift you think it

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Speaker 8: That's what they want. I mean, I don't particularly like it.

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Speaker 1: So that that's oh yeah, especially I think this affects

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Speaker 8: It helps hitters. I think you'll see batting average definitely

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Speaker 8: You know, there's still gonna be you know, things that

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: So I really don't think it's that big of a factor. Honestly.

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Speaker 8: The shift one is is bigger, for sure, the pitch

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they decline that rule of him correct. Isaac joins

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on all this rule changing that

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Speaker 1: guess not Isaac, if you want to start bro what's up?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You're going to read too much into it.

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Speaker 10: I've been out all day basis, so I think what's

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Speaker 4: The biggest one.

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Speaker 10: I think Alex mentioned that it was the shifts that's

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Speaker 10: I'm tired of left tended hitters cranking harsh hit groundballs

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Speaker 3: It'd be interesting to see how they do that.

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Speaker 10: I'm curious, like, I don't know if how many, what

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Speaker 10: So that's something to look out for. Is That's why

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Speaker 1: Alex Kritchick, if you want to hop in here, I

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Speaker 3: But good my man, acting like this is a fish

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Speaker 8: Yeah, these are the issues that they are stuck on.

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Speaker 8: They call it a deadlock. As you say in your

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Speaker 2: To move on.

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Speaker 8: They will not move on those so as has been

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Speaker 8: They want to play baseball. But issues that they're going

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Speaker 4: And the money issue is the main one.

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Speaker 8: So they want more players, more money for young players,

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Speaker 4: It's ridiculous, Like, these are your employees.

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Speaker 8: These are the people that that that make your business

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Speaker 8: what it is, and the league just continues to hurt them,

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Speaker 8: It's definitely Major League Baseball players because they're not billionaire.

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Speaker 8: So that's what the league is counting on. And Tony

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: It is what it is.

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Speaker 1: And when it comes to the playoffs, Isaac, if you

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Speaker 10: the you know, for the if it's fourteen teams for

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Speaker 10: that seventh seed in each in any league, I think

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Speaker 10: they should definitely have US a firm disadvantage, whether it's

442
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Speaker 10: home field or you know, I don't know what, but

443
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Speaker 10: they shouldn't have a one win against.

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Speaker 3: Them in the best of three. That makes no sense

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Speaker 3: to me at all.

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Speaker 10: But I haven't read too much into it about what

447
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Speaker 10: exactly that wouldn't sail. But from what I do know,

448
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Speaker 10: I think fourteen teams would be way too many. I

449
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Speaker 10: think it'll end up being twelve, which I think is fine.

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Speaker 10: You know, we went from eight, We went from eight

451
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Speaker 10: to ten after twenty twelve I think it was, and

452
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Speaker 10: now I yeah, ten and now twelve would be fine.

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Speaker 10: I think that gives other teams, you know, a better shot,

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Speaker 10: and it would have teams that are like under five

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Speaker 10: hundred competing for a playoff spot.

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Speaker 4: So I think that would be the perfect number in

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Speaker 4: my opinion.

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Speaker 1: Was twelve the number in twenty twenty when the Marlins.

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Speaker 4: Made it, or or was it still in twenty twenty?

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Speaker 10: It was a lot of teams. I don't know they

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Speaker 10: zach number, but it was a lot. I think it

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Speaker 10: was fourteen actually for just that season.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't it was?

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 10: It was an absurd amount of teams because there was

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Speaker 10: like four wildcard series, so.

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Speaker 4: I think it was. It might have been sixteen teams.

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Speaker 10: Actually I don't know, but there were a lot of

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Speaker 10: playoff teams for twenty twenty, but for good reason because

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Speaker 10: it was a sixty game season. So but you know,

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Speaker 10: in the full you know, one to fifty one two

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Speaker 10: game season, it should be more than twelve.

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Speaker 8: The whole with with with wins is absolutely ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: But I think I agree, we agree that that's.

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Speaker 10: That's so dumb because because that's the thing about baseball

476
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Speaker 10: is like the lower seed can always win, like, you know,

477
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Speaker 10: anything can happen.

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Speaker 4: So if you're just gonna give a ghost win, that's retarded.

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Speaker 1: It was it was eight teams on so sixteen teams.

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Speaker 4: Sixteen teams.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so I was right, that's crazy, Like, yeah, Alex

482
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Speaker 10: is totally correct. If you're gonna have, you know, a ghost,

483
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Speaker 10: that makes sense. That's not what baseball is. You don't

484
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Speaker 10: start down one game to nothing like that's so stupid.

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna have a ghost team, just do twelve teams.

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Speaker 4: And that's I think not even you don't have a ghost.

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Speaker 1: Don't have a ghost. The ghost is just useless. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna make the other team.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna put the.

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Speaker 1: Other team in a horrible position because if you lose,

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Speaker 1: that's it. You're done. You don't get another chance.

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Speaker 10: And it's just that it's anything right, And if you

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Speaker 10: want to have like sort of that like one game playoffs,

494
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Speaker 10: stick with your wild guard thing, the one game playoff

495
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Speaker 10: wild guard game, which I don't I like it because

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Speaker 10: that brings TV ratings like create really good for the game,

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Speaker 10: I think.

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately it's for baseball. I don't love it.

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Speaker 10: But you know, for the business out of it, it

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Speaker 10: makes sense because really people tune into elemination games. But

501
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Speaker 10: so have your bottom two seeds competing in a one

502
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Speaker 10: game playoff, because no one's gonna want to compete in

503
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Speaker 10: a one game playoff.

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Speaker 4: Unless like you're the Mets and you have to grum

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Speaker 4: or something. But no one wants to repeat in that,

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Speaker 4: So make it like that.

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Speaker 1: Another good option would be the playing tournament, like a

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Speaker 1: small playing tournament like the NBA.

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Speaker 10: Ay, Kevin, don't start with a dog, Well, let's look

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Speaker 10: at it, we'll play.

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Speaker 1: They still have the same amount of teams that in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, and they're still making a competitive in the

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Speaker 1: play in as it makes sense it's not it's not

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Speaker 1: sixteen teams in the playoffs like we's on twenty twenty,

515
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Speaker 1: and it's not fourteen. It's more than enough on each

516
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Speaker 1: on each side, and if there's a playing tournament, that

517
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Speaker 1: doesn't automatically secure you a spot like it would in

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Speaker 1: the MLB if you did fourteen teams.

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Speaker 11: And I think that the NBA is an interesting example

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Speaker 11: because I was kind of on the same page where

521
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Speaker 11: I was like, you know, the NBA allows half the

522
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Speaker 11: league in and it's so boring and I don't want

523
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Speaker 11: Major League Baseball turn into that. But then I thought,

524
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Speaker 11: you know, the NHL does the same thing. I don't

525
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Speaker 11: know if everyone else in the space watches hockey or

526
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Speaker 11: how in tune you guys are, but they allow the

527
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Speaker 11: same amount of teams in as the NBA, and you

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Speaker 11: see crazy stuff all the time. I mean, the Tampa

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Speaker 11: Bay Lightning got in as a one seed with the

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Speaker 11: best record or the most points ever collected during a

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Speaker 11: regular season, and they lost in the first round. So

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Speaker 11: even though the fourteen teams is kind of a lot

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Speaker 11: and it's more than I originally wanted, I wouldn't necessarily

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Speaker 11: compare it to the NBA because NHL has the same

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Speaker 11: amount of teams, and it's a totally different thing. I

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Speaker 11: think we all agree, and Isaac said it before with

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Speaker 11: the ghost win it's useless because things, weird, things do

538
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Speaker 11: happen in baseball. So fourteen teams, you know, if a

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Speaker 11: team does get in, that's quote unquote undeserving as a

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Speaker 11: lower seed, but they wind up winning the World Series.

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Speaker 11: I mean they they probably deserved it then. And yeah,

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Speaker 11: the ghost rule thing kind of gives me college intramural

543
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Speaker 11: frat softball league vibes.

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Speaker 3: Facts.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly, Like listen, it's it's the playoffs, you know

546
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Speaker 8: what I mean. You got to earn your way and

547
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Speaker 8: if you're just letting teams in and you got to

548
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Speaker 8: you gotta earn your way whole way through. If you're

549
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Speaker 8: giving away wins, that completely goes against the competition level

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Speaker 8: of the sport, Like there's no competition. You're giving a

551
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Speaker 8: win away, there's zero competition. There's nothing the other team

552
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Speaker 8: can do about it. It's basically like a forfeit from

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Speaker 8: the other team on a legal basis. It's terrible, Like,

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Speaker 8: you know, this, this is a competitive sport. It's it's

555
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Speaker 8: all in this. This sport baseball has always preached and

556
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Speaker 8: MLB has always preached competition until now, like it's all

557
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Speaker 8: about the factor and that is erase. If you're giving

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Speaker 8: away wins, that's just a terrible rule. That against the

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Speaker 8: spirit games. So I mean, that's what you're losing here

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Speaker 8: is the spirit of baseball. I think Manfred has done

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Speaker 8: a lot to take away for the ball and what

562
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Speaker 8: do you you know, we be talking about guys and

563
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Speaker 8: starting pitchers that would row two hundred and fifty pitches.

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Speaker 4: You know, in one start, for example.

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Speaker 8: And nowadays obviously you know, the science and everything around

566
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Speaker 8: the game has shamed cobsopletely different. But now you're talking

567
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Speaker 8: about completely changing the format of this game.

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Speaker 4: You're taking away the.

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Speaker 8: Strategic You're taking away the ability for a coach to say,

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Speaker 8: I know a guy's going to hit the ball here,

571
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Speaker 8: this is where he hits the ball. If he's not

572
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Speaker 8: going to hit the ball there, listen, do something about it.

573
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Speaker 8: If you're the player, and hit it to somewhere else.

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Speaker 8: And that's what you have to do as a player.

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Speaker 8: If you're out out, if a coach out thinks you,

576
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Speaker 8: that's expertise on the coach. If a team out thinks

577
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Speaker 8: you that's expertise on the team, you know what I mean.

578
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Speaker 8: So you know you've got to be better as a

579
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Speaker 8: player and say, hey, I'm going to beat you back

580
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Speaker 8: and do something else about it.

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Speaker 4: Bunt down the third baseline if they shift you, you

582
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Speaker 4: know what I mean, so you know they're there.

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Speaker 8: And that's that's the cat and mout for baseball that

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Speaker 8: I've always loved. And then it's now being a race

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Speaker 8: by rules like this that are being implemented. And not

586
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Speaker 8: only that, as you guys have been talking about, not

587
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Speaker 8: only the rule changes, but now you're saying, Okay, we're

588
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Speaker 8: changing the rules, but you know you don't have to

589
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Speaker 8: be as good anymore because more teams are going to

590
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Speaker 8: be allowed in the playoffs and.

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Speaker 4: See what you do from there. It's it's just bad

592
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Speaker 4: for the game.

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Speaker 8: I mean, the rule changes are bad for the game, honestly,

594
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Speaker 8: both of them that we've talked about.

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Speaker 4: The expanded playoffs is bad for the.

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Speaker 8: Game, think and now this rule with the shifts is

597
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Speaker 8: bad for the game. I think the pitch clock is whatever.

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Speaker 8: I don't really care, but I mean it's just hurting baseball.

599
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Speaker 8: And through this whole lockout, I think that's that's the

600
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Speaker 8: theme you'll see is that baseball is being hurt.

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Speaker 4: The natural and historic.

602
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Speaker 8: You know, regions of this game are being hurt by

603
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Speaker 8: everything that's being done.

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Speaker 4: And it sucks to see it.

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Speaker 8: You know, as a longtime fan that's grown up for

606
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Speaker 8: thirty five years and watched every day of my life

607
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Speaker 8: watch baseball games.

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Speaker 4: It sucks to see that. So it is what it is.

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Speaker 8: Longtime fans will be hurt by it. They'll alienate a

610
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Speaker 8: lot of fans because of these things. But you know,

611
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Speaker 8: the newer fans will will stick around and we'll see

612
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Speaker 8: what happens. But it really does suck. And I mean,

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Speaker 8: Manfred's bad for baseball.

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Speaker 1: That's all I can say. I agree with Manfred's bad,

615
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Speaker 1: but I will say this. I just noticed in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty every single team that made the playoffs winn into

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Speaker 1: the wildcard. I just noticed that, and geez out, that.

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Speaker 3: Is really bad.

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Speaker 1: You have a fourteen playoff series or a fourteen teams

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. It was sixteen corrupt. Yeah, sixteen my bad.

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Speaker 1: I just looked that.

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Speaker 4: It's completely wrong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, every single team went into the into the wild card,

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Speaker 1: which it.

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Speaker 4: Was a wildcard series though, but it was a wild cat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 11: I think unfortunately we've seen Rob Manfred and the owners

627
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Speaker 11: make changes to this league to cater more towards casual fans,

628
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Speaker 11: which I think is bad business. You know, at the

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Speaker 11: end of the day, I think it's better to make

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Speaker 11: your actual fans happy, because at the end of the day, Also,

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Speaker 11: if people don't like baseball, they're just not gonna like baseball.

632
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Speaker 11: Like cutting down the game by twenty minutes isn't gonna

633
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Speaker 11: it is gonna make people watch baseball. I mean, football

634
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Speaker 11: games are are slowly paced, they take three and a

635
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Speaker 11: half hours and so, and people love watching that. So

636
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Speaker 11: at the end of the day, if you don't like baseball,

637
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 11: you're not gonna like baseball. It's because of these rules.

638
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 11: I will say, you know, kind of going against what

639
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Speaker 11: Alex said before about the playoffs, I was I'm kind

640
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Speaker 11: of going back and forth on this because on one hand, yes,

641
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Speaker 11: you would have teams with eighty two eighty three wins

642
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Speaker 11: making the playoffs, but this past season we also missed

643
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Speaker 11: out on a ninety one win Toronto Blue Jays team,

644
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Speaker 11: a ninety win Seattle Manners team, and the eighty six

645
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Speaker 11: win Oakland Athletics team that would have made the playoffs

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Speaker 11: on this new format. And I'm willing to let in

647
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Speaker 11: a couple of fraudulent teams every year if it at

648
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Speaker 11: least means that I get to see more teams that

649
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Speaker 11: I teams that I want to see more, Like I'm

650
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Speaker 11: upset that I didn't get to see bladd in.

651
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Speaker 4: The playoffs last year. Well, it's more games, right, So

652
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Speaker 4: who benefits four games? Alex? The league?

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Speaker 8: The players don't benefit from more games. They make the

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Speaker 8: money they make, They make their annual salary. They don't

655
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Speaker 8: benefit for the owner.

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Speaker 4: That's it possible and as many as possible, because they're

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Speaker 4: benefiting them.

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Speaker 8: Most players, they're going to make their annual second and

659
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 8: that's where and tear on their bodies. So I mean,

660
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 8: you gotta look at it from that.

661
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: I think players, I think the best way to go

662
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: to do this. If they want to add more teams

663
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, just do twelve. I think that's the

664
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Speaker 1: best way to do because fourteen, I think is already

665
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: way too much. And what Alex Kuchik said is completely correct.

666
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: We could have seen that Toronto team make the playoffs,

667
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: the Mariners, the Athletics, as you mentioned as well, if

668
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: possibly we had a twelve team playoff format, which I

669
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: think is good. I think fourteen is way too much,

670
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: and looking at it from a Marlins perspective, I think

671
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: it gives the Marlins a better chance to make the playoffs,

672
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: which that's what they're trying to do this season. It'll

673
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: all indicates so I don't know if anyone else wants

674
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: to chime in on that, but I think twelve is

675
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: the right number. Fourteen is too much, sixteen is completely absurd.

676
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: It should never be the Ghosts.

677
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 11: How do you guys feel about the the idea of

678
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 11: less games? Like, either way, do you guys still want

679
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 11: one sixty two? Because I have a couple of thoughts

680
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 11: on it.

681
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: I'll take as many as possible. One sixty two is

682
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: cool for me, to be honest. I don't know if

683
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: Alex has something different for Isaac.

684
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know.

685
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 8: I'd just be interested to hear yourself Alex on that,

686
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 8: Like why, I mean, one sixty two has worked.

687
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 4: Forever that that's been their number.

688
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 8: You know, it's been been eighty you know, it's it's

689
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 8: been basically home Road split.

690
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 4: It's eighty one eighty one. Most of the time.

691
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 8: Maybe sometimes a little skewed, but I think it's I

692
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 8: think it's pretty fair. You know, it's a long season. Yes,

693
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 8: it's a dog days of summer. That's what baseball is

694
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 8: all about. It drags on the whole summer. What your point,

695
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 8: your point that you're probably gonna make that I guess

696
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 8: I can anticipate you can tell me if I'm wrong.

697
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 8: Is that the season just drags on too long and

698
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 8: people lose interest like that. That may be what you'll say,

699
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 8: and I totally agree with that. But you know, the

700
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 8: long time diehards that are all about this game, that

701
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 8: are traditionalists for this game, that's part of baseball as well.

702
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 8: You know, that's part of being a major league baseball

703
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 8: player is being able to stick through all one hundred

704
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 8: and sixty two games and being able to go out

705
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 8: there every day and grind it out and go to

706
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 8: different cities. And that's part of being a major league

707
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 8: baseball player. So I mean, honestly, I think if you

708
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 8: dumb it down, it would help a little bit in

709
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 8: the terms of the casual fan that's like, yeah, I'm

710
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 8: not going to pay attention to baseball because I'm not

711
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 8: going to watch.

712
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 4: One hundred and sixty two games, you know what I mean.

713
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 8: But the diehards that love one hundred and sixty two

714
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 8: games would hate that, you know, because they want as

715
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 8: much baseball as possible.

716
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 3: As we've talked about.

717
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 8: So if you dumb it down, honestly, it could probably

718
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 8: work from a viewership and casual standpoint, but that that

719
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 8: kills the owners. Because the owners are all about games.

720
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 8: They make the most money on what tickets and concessions,

721
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,959
Speaker 8: So if you take away games, that hurts their pockets

722
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 8: and they're not going to go for that. So, like

723
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 8: I said before, they're all about as many games as possible.

724
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 8: The owners want as many games as possible. That's why

725
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 8: they're promoting these further. You know, sixteen fourteen team playoffs

726
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 8: is because they want more games.

727
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 4: That's what owners want. So if the.

728
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 8: League were to, if the Union were to come out

729
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 8: and say, and let's let's go with less games, it

730
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 8: would never it would never happen.

731
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 11: It would never happen, right, Yeah, And I it's not

732
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 11: even that I want less games. This is one of

733
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 11: those things where if they decided to, I wouldn't mind it.

734
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 11: I do think that the dog days of Summer thing

735
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 11: although I enjoy it, It's not like if they scaled

736
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 11: it from one sixty two down to one thirty and

737
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 11: cut out the entire month of April. It's not like

738
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 11: one thirty isn't a grind, you know what I mean?

739
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 4: That's of right now in terms of next season or

740
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 4: this season.

741
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 11: That's right, that's that's probably what we're getting anyway, and

742
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 11: I think it'll be interesting. I will say this is

743
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 11: a little bit off topic. I do find it interesting

744
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,479
Speaker 11: that people are saying that it's going to be an

745
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 11: asterisk season now, even if they get going in May,

746
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 11: Like if they play one thirty, I would love to

747
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 11: see one sixty two. I would have loved to see that.

748
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 11: One thirty is still a fine. That's still a grind.

749
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 11: You still get a large sample size of every team

750
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 11: at one thirty.

751
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 10: No, No, I don't know, Alix like I feel you,

752
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 10: but I don't know man like that. It's just been

753
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 10: one sixty two and eight if you have, but that's

754
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 10: a whole month of games. Imagine like you eliminated the

755
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 10: whole month of September, how many teams are like in

756
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 10: it at the end of August and a whole month

757
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 10: of September completely like changes everything. I don't know, Like,

758
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 10: I think they need to make sure it's at least

759
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 10: one fifty or above for this year. I think that

760
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 10: really legitimizes this season. It has to be anything below

761
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 10: one fifty delegitimizes it. That's my couple ignorant opinion, But

762
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 10: I think so I think one point thirty isn't and

763
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 10: off man, that's annoying.

764
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 4: I think the two thousand playoff Marlins for sure, Yeah, right,

765
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 4: and there's a there's example.

766
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 10: You know, there's countless examples, dude, Like the Mariners wouldn't

767
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 10: have been close and I'm I'm mistaken without September. You know,

768
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 10: there's just or Oakland. I think it's Oakland like when

769
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 10: they once they got Marte, they went on fire, and

770
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 10: they wouldn't have been close to a playoff spot without

771
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 10: those extra twenty five thirty games. So I don't know,

772
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 10: like we're gonna like talk shit, it was one thirty

773
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 10: forever and all of baseball, like you know, for the

774
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 10: paste hundred years.

775
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: And we won't even be thinking about this.

776
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 10: But I don't know, since it's been once to see

777
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 10: two for such a long time, you have to keep

778
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 10: it above one fifty. If you're major League Baseball, anything

779
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 10: under that, you know it's it's not offense, it's not

780
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 10: ass authentic. I should say, yeah, but that's me.

781
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if you agree.

782
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 10: Alex Crutch, Hey, Kevin, you made me laugh, like, oh

783
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 10: part of fishripes. If I'm not mistaken, come on, man,

784
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 10: you gotta know, doc.

785
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 1: I have to make sure because I know there is

786
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: an Alex come on and I saw. I was like,

787
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: all right, sorry, I'm sorry.

788
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 4: This man was like, I'm pretty sure he's a member

789
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 4: of my company. There's some people that I just look

790
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 4: at that both file sure. I literally he's a god.

791
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 11: I scaled back. I graduated and got like another job.

792
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, brouy people that I just don't remember that on

793
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: fish stripes.

794
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 11: There's so many of us, but uh no twenty yet

795
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 11: that that picture was.

796
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 4: Huh that must have been twenty twenty.

797
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 10: Alex right, who's been pictured on fish strips?

798
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 11: Yeah, that was twenty twenty. I had nothing else to do.

799
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 11: I mean, I was already with fish Stripes for a

800
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 11: couple of years at that point. But I remember telling Eli, like,

801
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 11: just send me out to the stadium whenever every day.

802
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 3: Nothing else to do.

803
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's what I'm gonna That's what I'm gonna be

804
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 10: doing in twenty twenty two. Whenever that shit starts a

805
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 10: movie covering nonsense games.

806
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: Great.

807
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 11: You know what's a shame is I have a I'm

808
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 11: up in Washington right now. I have a roommate who's

809
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 11: not from this country, and he's I'm trying to get

810
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 11: him in baseball, and I have.

811
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 4: Like good luck.

812
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, Like if you were watching college baseball on TV

813
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 11: this weekend, which, by the way, like if you guys

814
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,959
Speaker 11: saw that on MLB Network, it was electric, all oh yeah,

815
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 11: And it's a shame because he seems to be enjoying it.

816
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 11: But I can't take him anywhere because there's no season yet,

817
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 11: there's no pro season.

818
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 8: Well you're in Washington, but oh you teams up there

819
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 8: so April fifth minor league baseball, like and you know,

820
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 8: and tell him ahead of time, you know, this is

821
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 8: where players, you know, this is where they learn. That's

822
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 8: how I would put it, and that's how I always

823
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 8: put it. So you may see a lesser quality of

824
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 8: baseball from from definitely from major leagues and maybe even

825
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 8: from college, but man, those atmospheres are so great. I

826
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 8: mean that's where I have my most fun. I love

827
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 8: Marlin's games. I love covering Marlon's games. I love going

828
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 8: to Marlins games. I love going to major League baseball games.

829
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 8: I lived in San Diego for a long time, where

830
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 8: you know, they weren't the best team for a very

831
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 8: long time. They had one very good season in nineteen

832
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 8: eighty eight, and other than that they've been well. At

833
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:51,959
Speaker 8: least when I was living there, they were not good.

834
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 8: They're better now, of course, but yeah, I mean, like,

835
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 8: take him to minor league baseball games.

836
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 4: Bro, That's what I would say.

837
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 8: I mean, it's it's it's it's a proving ground, and

838
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 8: it's it's it's definitely an experience to share.

839
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 4: Everett.

840
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 8: I don't know if you're around Everett evert AquaSox have

841
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 8: a team out there in Washington. No, no, Washington d

842
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 8: c Oh we have d I thought you met Washington State. Okay,

843
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 8: So I don't know what's around there.

844
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 4: Maybe Bowie, Yeah we have Bowie.

845
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 11: It's like, okay, forty minute car ride probably.

846
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

847
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 8: Well, I don't know if it's worth it for you,

848
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 8: but yeah, yeah, take him to at least one Alex.

849
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 10: You know what I have. I've been to so many

850
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 10: baseball events. I've never been to a minor league baseball game.

851
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 10: I've never been a Hammerhead game.

852
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 12: I've never been to a Jacksonville Sun's game like Jacksonville

853
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,479
Speaker 12: Jumbo Shrimp game. Well, I haven't not even a Zephyr's game.

854
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 3: Nothing. Bro, I'm like slacking on that ship.

855
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 4: It's because you know, like you know, major league season starting.

856
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 3: I don't travel once.

857
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 10: The only time I'm in Jupiters for spring training and

858
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 10: there's no minor league games going on.

859
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 3: So I just I've never been to a minor league game.

860
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 4: I really need to go.

861
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 3: I want to go to.

862
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: Jackson Don't worry, Isaac, You'll have plenty of time with

863
00:38:58,480 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: the lockout.

864
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 8: Yeah right, how that you do what you do with

865
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 8: with ELI and fishtripes and everything.

866
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 4: Go go, trust me, you'll go.

867
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 8: And if you ever need somebody to go with or

868
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 8: need somebody to talk to out a game, I'm always

869
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 8: at these games.

870
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 4: As you guys know.

871
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 8: So yeah, I mean there's so much fun. I mean,

872
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 8: you you see lesser quality of baseball because it's.

873
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: For us. This is like really fun because we know

874
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,959
Speaker 1: about the players who know hype.

875
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 8: And you growing error and you're like, oh my fucking god,

876
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 8: like why likely it hurts your heart because you want

877
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 8: to see them succeed, But man, you know it's coming, right, So,

878
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 8: I mean, it's growing pains and that's what min earleague

879
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 8: baseball is overcoming and learning, learning the game, and and

880
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 8: that's there.

881
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 4: There can't be enough, and it's it's refreshing watch at

882
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 4: the end of the day.

883
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 8: And it's it's just really fun to see these guys

884
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 8: grow into what they eventually become. Like I watched Christian Yelich,

885
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 8: I watched Jose Fernandez, you know, like it's it's it's

886
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 8: really refreshing watch. And then when they become effective major

887
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 8: league players, it's even better. So doesn't always happen. I

888
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 8: looked at prospects that I swore we're going to become

889
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 8: major league talents, and it never happened. So that happens

890
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 8: as well. But when you see somebody that you're like, hey,

891
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 8: that's a dude, and then he turns into that dude,

892
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 8: that thing, and that's what you get from minor league baseball,

893
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 8: and it's amazing.

894
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: You also saw Sandias come on the absolute prodigy.

895
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 4: Yeah we all saw that.

896
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, he was with the Diamondbacks for most of my

897
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 8: early career. He went to New Orleans for a little while.

898
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 8: You know, no comment, I'll uh.

899
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 4: Oh, that's right, that's right. He Sandias was with the

900
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 4: diamond He was a Diamond.

901
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, I forgot that shitro I remember what we traded

902
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 10: for his like when he was supposed to get called

903
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 10: up at some point when they couldn't trade Starlin. I

904
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 10: was like looking at his high school highs. I like, bro,

905
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 10: this guy's swing is butter bro, Like, how does it

906
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 10: not play out? And I saw the report on Barry Jackson.

907
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 10: He's like, oh, this guy's just a poor men's Robinson.

908
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 10: Cano doesn't have great tools. He like an okay player

909
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 10: or whatever.

910
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 8: But I like you, you know this, you can't be afraid.

911
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 8: Like I have an article out right now on on

912
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 8: my website that I'm sure I'll be wrong on a

913
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 8: couple of these guys, Like I I likened and I

914
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 8: was talking to you before, I likened Khalil Watson to

915
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 8: Orlando Hudson, like I maybe Lewis or was it Lewis?

916
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 2: It was Lewis.

917
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, So I like Lewis Orlando Hudson. And that's on

918
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 8: my website.

919
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 3: Oh, dog was a god.

920
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 4: Bro He had such a personality that I'm sure.

921
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 8: You can look up for past takes kind to be like, hey,

922
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 8: he was completely wrong, and but you you got to

923
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 8: you gotta take that chance, you know, if you see

924
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 8: it any you know, and I see it in Ian Lewis,

925
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 8: and I see it in Khalil, like I see this

926
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 8: the same kind of steiling. Maybe a little higher for Khalil,

927
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 8: but same kind of ceiling, same exact kind of steeling. Actually,

928
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 8: so yeah, I mean, you can't be afraid of of

929
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 8: calling out what you see and right and sometimes you're

930
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 8: wrong and it is what it is.

931
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: I need to go to a jump Bus Shrimp game

932
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: this year or some minor league.

933
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 8: Off the team bro Verdick, would they Victor Victor Mesa,

934
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 8: You know, if you want to see.

935
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 10: Him, if I get lucky, he'll like hit one over

936
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 10: like second base and ship like.

937
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: Is also going to be really interesting. They have a

938
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: lot of raw young talent.

939
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna they're gonna lead the minor leagues

940
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 4: in strikeouts.

941
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 3: That's a goal.

942
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, and you know, you guys talked about

943
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 8: the rule changes, like I'm kind of interested to see

944
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 8: how you know, as these are adopted into Major league Baseball,

945
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 8: how does this affect minor league coaching? Like how how

946
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 8: are how do they train that to infielders especially, you

947
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 8: know what I mean?

948
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 4: How does that change?

949
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 8: Like Jose Sibios and you know, like these minor league

950
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 8: infield that are that are infield coaches and stuff like that,

951
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 8: and uh Intel how a head coach but he used

952
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 8: to be a field coach, So how does that kind

953
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 8: of how does that kind of these rule changes? How

954
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 8: do they permeate into minor league? Interested to see that

955
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 8: as well? How these guys brought up work on how

956
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 8: to not be able to you can't do that anymore?

957
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 8: So you know how how does that your mindsets?

958
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 4: An that's interesting dynamic.

959
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: Why is it that Jacksonville starts their season before all

960
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: the other affiliates? Is that just a coincidence or is

961
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: it always like that?

962
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: I think Triple A starts sooner than others.

963
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, Triple A starting a little sooner and started.

964
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: Because they start on the fifth of April, and then Belloyd, Jupiter,

965
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: and Pensacola all start pretty much at the same time

966
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 1: on the eighth.

967
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's only a couple of days, but it was

968
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 4: like that.

969
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 8: Well last year, I think it was like a week,

970
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 8: but Triple A started like a week before, and now

971
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 8: it's like.

972
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 4: It's just a couple of days. So yeah, it's the

973
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 4: same week. So it's whatever.

974
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 8: So I mean, I don't know why I couldn't answer

975
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 8: that question, but yeah, I mean it is what it is.

976
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: So the team that watches Johnson soon because that's where

977
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: all the guys are, they're all very close to MLB

978
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: ready at least for some.

979
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 4: Right, where did you have your restarting at Alex I forgot.

980
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 3: I had your back at a single advanced with bullet right,

981
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 3: good ship?

982
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: You think I think you could go.

983
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 8: To Kevin who is the affiliate to watch like like

984
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 8: out of.

985
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: The Jacksonville Jacksonville right because Max Meyer verdict and they're

986
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 1: close to MLB ready.

987
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 8: My is not even good though, Uh take that back

988
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 8: right now, But I know, dude, was about.

989
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 12: Okay, okay, can we at least agree that admires the

990
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 12: centerpiece of any Brian Reynolds trade.

991
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 4: That's like the biggest win of all time.

992
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 1: I just noticed we could talk about this Eli in here.

993
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 4: Let's go.

994
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 12: I mean, yeah, dude, Eli, Dude, like the guys the

995
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 12: smartest person that I know.

996
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 10: But what the hell does he mean that Miami's farmsism

997
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 10: wouldn't wouldn't attract Pittsburgh?

998
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?

999
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 4: That's the I think it's the exact Miami.

1000
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: Miami is the best position team to make a trade

1001
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 1: for Reynolds, Mullins or.

1002
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 4: I don't want Mullins. I don't want bullets.

1003
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want and I don't want Bullens either.

1004
00:44:58,760 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 4: Some people do.

1005
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 3: I really don't want. I'd rather tell or Brian Reynolds.

1006
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 8: You probably said the opposite of me. Knowing knowing Eli Susman,

1007
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 8: he'd probably say the exact opposite.

1008
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 4: Of what I'm going to tell you.

1009
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 8: But you guys are underrating Max Meyer.

1010
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 4: That guy's major league ready right now. But Brian Reynolds

1011
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 4: is a superstar.

1012
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: There over over a couple of guys.

1013
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 10: No, no, no, I agree, I agree, But Brian Reynolds

1014
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 10: is an offensive superstar. It's a potential right handed pitching superstar.

1015
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 10: You're right, I would one hundred per do it. Throwing verdict.

1016
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 10: Throw in one of those young high maybe y Ed.

1017
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 10: I don't know if like they really care for Yedi anyway,

1018
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 10: because he's really raw offensively anyway.

1019
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 8: But yeah, the Marlins have a lot to deal from

1020
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 8: in terms of age, the up the middle, up the middle,

1021
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 8: players well in the infield, and also pitchers. Right yeah,

1022
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 8: I mean I say this all the time, and you

1023
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 8: guys all know me saying that Salas is not is

1024
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 8: not going to be a shortstop.

1025
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 4: He's going to be a third baseman or at least

1026
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 4: the second basement. I think they're basement.

1027
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, third base.

1028
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 4: Uh Ian Lewis definitely will stick at second base.

1029
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 8: The one guy that you can look at that's a

1030
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 8: current shortstop that will that will stay at shortstop is

1031
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 8: Nacum Nunez.

1032
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 4: So he sucks.

1033
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 3: Say it again, but he sucks.

1034
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 2: I don't see. I don't see Nasim having a lot

1035
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 2: of long term potential for our team with what we

1036
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: got in the prospect farm system. Why well, you got

1037
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 2: to think about this, Jazz Chisholm has second or shortstop?

1038
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 3: And then who is this talking? Oh Ryan, you know

1039
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 3: I don't know who that is.

1040
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 2: Sorry, Hey, I'm so I heard the prospect to meet.

1041
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 2: I've been a huge Marlands fan ever since I was born.

1042
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 4: So awesome, man, I love it.

1043
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 2: We need more, I know, and I live in Idaho,

1044
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: so I'm the only one.

1045
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: That's impressing.

1046
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,479
Speaker 2: But anyways, so you got to think about jazz. Jazz

1047
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: chism is going to.

1048
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: Be at least one of those two spots. And then if.

1049
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 2: We I think, if we retain B B A and

1050
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 2: keep them, I think that would be a perfect setup

1051
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 2: for yiddi and jazz in the middle. So I don't

1052
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: unless not see him is like is unless he somehow

1053
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 2: amazes us. I just don't know if he can really

1054
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: fit in that lineup.

1055
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 8: Ryan, I I appreciate your opinion. I definitely I'm not

1056
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 8: gonna say you wrong. My my answer to you would

1057
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 8: be errors at second base last year.

1058
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 4: You think he's a shortstop, he I don't know.

1059
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 2: I think he could be his he's got a good arm.

1060
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 4: But Miguel Road for definitely our short as this boy.

1061
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 4: I love that guy. I love talking to him.

1062
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 8: He's one of the eyes I can tell you, and

1063
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 8: Kevin as well, and Alex like one of the best

1064
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 8: dudes ever. Awesome personality, great dude. He's not not a shortstop.

1065
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 8: He will never ever ever.

1066
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 12: You're talking about jazz, Yeah, we're talking about you can't

1067
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 12: say never ever ever. As if a guy can't improve,

1068
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 12: like if Jeter was a short stopper for that long.

1069
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 12: But I agree, like he looked bad, like he looked

1070
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 12: bad and he's a great second. I think he's a

1071
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 12: good second baseman.

1072
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 10: But I don't think that's something that we could just

1073
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 10: say never rather have jazz at second.

1074
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, like, let's say shortstop.

1075
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm just saying, let's if you're there a second basement,

1076
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 10: you know, I think they would have no they would

1077
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 10: eat the defensive liability a little bit with jazz a

1078
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 10: short easy like he's good enough jazz.

1079
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: Jazz play and we have the worst offensive outfield.

1080
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 2: Ye, we will have a great offensive outfield once bla

1081
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 2: day and verdict can come up.

1082
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 3: Dude, you're optimistic, Huh.

1083
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: I love I love him. I've I've met both of

1084
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: them and I've talked to both of them, and they're

1085
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: they're mindsets on the game and what they wanted, Like

1086
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: how just how they do stuff is just it's it's

1087
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: the five nests. Never seen how they prepare.

1088
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 10: They're good kids. They're really are good kids. I've had

1089
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 10: I had a media session with each of them in

1090
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 10: early February, and they're high quality human beings, everyone that

1091
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 10: they draft and.

1092
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 4: Everyone that they seem to bring into the organization.

1093
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 10: It seems to be that consistent that they're all They

1094
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 10: all are like, you know, good people. Really they seem

1095
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 10: that way. I don't know, but they're all good kids, man.

1096
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 10: Jordan McCants one of the nicest kids. Brett Hostler very

1097
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 10: nice kids. These the guys that I met, Even Victor

1098
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 10: Victor signing for five MILLI he's like kind of like

1099
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 10: a humble guy.

1100
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 4: So they're all good kids.

1101
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 2: So you just said, I just want to get your guys'

1102
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 2: take because I think Victim. I think mister Junior is

1103
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: going to be the better of the two. What what's

1104
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 2: your guys.

1105
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 10: No, that that's that's that's all about certain Ryan, That's

1106
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 10: all about certain.

1107
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 9: Okay, I just want to make sure that's all about certain.

1108
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 12: There's a lot of high I'll tell you this though,

1109
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 12: Victor Victor definitely has the higher floor.

1110
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 4: I would say the shittiest, like, you know, like it's

1111
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 4: not a good floor. But I would say, like he

1112
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 4: probably has a higher floor.

1113
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 10: But Mason Jr. Might definitely has the higher ceiling. And

1114
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 10: I think he's I think he's an end up being better.

1115
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 10: I think it's a chance to be a fourth outfielder.

1116
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 10: Maybe you know, we'll see, but I don't right now.

1117
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 2: Victory.

1118
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 3: Victory has a very limited ceiling.

1119
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 2: He could be like a He could be like a

1120
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 2: Max Sierra's Sierra for us.

1121
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 10: No different different nobody, yeah, different type of player, but yeah,

1122
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 10: something like that.

1123
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: It's free to say that Brian de la Cruz is

1124
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: like blocking the way for verdict to go down. No, no, no, okay, okay.

1125
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: Dey la Cruz, what a pick up that was.

1126
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 3: That's that's kim magic baby.

1127
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 8: So yeah, I mean they would put him on a

1128
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 8: bench and Hervey the The the roster movement question is

1129
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 8: very interesting though, Kevin, in terms of other players the roster.

1130
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 8: You guys all know what I think about it. I

1131
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 8: don't have to go into it with you guys like that,

1132
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 8: but like it's it will be. This is my main

1133
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 8: thing for this coming season period is what does this

1134
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 8: roster look like under Paramount Ley and only Kim Ang

1135
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 8: and not Kimang, Derek Jeter and Gary Dembo like that.

1136
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 4: That is my my very very and it will start

1137
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 4: from spring training. You'll see it from spring training.

1138
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 8: Like the guys that make this team, and you'll see

1139
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 8: who she likes and who she wanted to be here,

1140
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 8: and you'll see who she didn't like and who she

1141
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 8: doesn't want to be here.

1142
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 4: And maybe some of those those opinions will be.

1143
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 8: The same as Jeter and Denbo, and a lot of them,

1144
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 8: I'm guessing them probably won't be. Because this woman knows

1145
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 8: what she's doing. She knows how to value a talent,

1146
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 8: and she wasn't able to really do that on her

1147
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 8: own in twenty twenty one. So it will definitely be

1148
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 8: interesting to see how this roster shakes out. I think

1149
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 8: you'll see some stark differences. I give you opinions of

1150
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 8: guys who I don't think will be on the team,

1151
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 8: many of whom are not here anymore, and some I

1152
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 8: think we'll not all anymore after this happen. But yeah,

1153
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 8: you're completely different philosophy when it comes down to it.

1154
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,919
Speaker 8: So it'll be really fun and you're look at open

1155
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 8: day and be like, well, where was that guy last year?

1156
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 4: And where was this guy last year?

1157
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 8: Well they were held down by Junior and Denbo, so

1158
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 8: that that that'll be your answer.

1159
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 4: It'll be interesting.

1160
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 8: It'll be a really when when opening day, when opening

1161
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 8: gay roster. I'm really, really, really excited for that because

1162
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 8: you're going to see some some some drastic differences for her.

1163
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 2: What do you guys think about Jacob Stallings, Because I

1164
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 2: know we've never we haven't really had a great catcher

1165
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: in the recent years. We've had a kind of a

1166
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 2: struggle there. What do you guys think about Stallings?

1167
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: Perfect perfect fit, best defensive catch from the mll be

1168
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: and the okay, the offense is okay.

1169
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: Better than better than alro probably, yeah.

1170
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: So I'll take it.

1171
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah for seven, provide get you know, get it

1172
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 8: by offense with a little bit of pop. You know,

1173
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 8: you've seen him hit Grand slams and home runs and

1174
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 8: highlights are great. I don't think he's a great four

1175
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 8: average guy whatsoever. He's a catcher, you know, he's easier,

1176
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 8: a typical defensive first catcher. I think I'll probably hit

1177
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 8: around two fifty, crank out a couple of surprising home runs,

1178
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 8: and play amazing, amazing defense and handle the staff very

1179
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 8: very well. So yeah, I mean it's it's it's a

1180
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 8: guy that the Marlins need, It's a guy that Marlins.

1181
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 4: Don't have, and he could be the catcher here for

1182
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 4: a long time.

1183
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 8: And as a catcher, you guys all know, you don't

1184
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 8: have to hit three hundred to be an effective player.

1185
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 8: If you're handling a staff, if you're able to get

1186
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 8: you know, as long as umpires are still around, if

1187
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 8: you're able to steal some strikeouts, if you're able to

1188
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 8: throw some guys out at an effective rate, that's that's

1189
00:53:58,719 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 8: what a catcher is.

1190
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 4: And major lyall So yeah, I mean, and he's that guy.

1191
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 8: He doesn't allow pass balls much unlike Alfarrow. That would

1192
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 8: be very good for this organization. It's it's the piece,

1193
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 8: it's the main DI not have. So it was definitely

1194
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 8: a good trade.

1195
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 4: I was all for it.

1196
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 8: I hated to lose, you know, the guys that they lost, Kyle.

1197
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 4: I really like Colin.

1198
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 2: Nicholas Nichols and Connor Scott, Connor Connor.

1199
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,439
Speaker 4: I like Connor. I I still like Connor. I still

1200
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 4: think he could be good.

1201
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 8: Isaac disagrees, and that's fine, but you know I disagree

1202
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 8: as well. You got to give up value to get value,

1203
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 8: and they definitely I disagree.

1204
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 4: About what.

1205
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: He said that you disagree that Connor Scott wasn't going

1206
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: to be anything good?

1207
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 7: Oh not that good.

1208
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 3: I think it was a read I would.

1209
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 10: Say never, but I wasn't the biggest fan of Connor

1210
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 10: Scott's swing. I thought it improved more than it had

1211
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 10: from high school to you know, to the last development

1212
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 10: camp early twenty twenty two.

1213
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:00,720
Speaker 3: It looks similar.

1214
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 10: Obviously it's a little improved, but it's just I don't know,

1215
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 10: he's getting under the ball a lot, and he's not

1216
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 10: gonna be able to use his speed as much as

1217
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 10: he as he you know, it would be who of

1218
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 10: him too, because he's a really fast kid. He's fast

1219
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 10: as ship, but I don't know starting outfielder though, Like

1220
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 10: there's a chance he can be starting. Yeah, but I

1221
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 10: just it was it was definitely worth the risk for Stallings.

1222
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: When it comes to me, I was a little bit

1223
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 1: out on on on Connor Scott already just wasn't working

1224
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: like Jaj was going, you know, was moving quicker than him.

1225
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: And this guy was the first draft picking Martin the

1226
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: Jeter era and he's still playing in Belloy, which says

1227
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: something that he hasn't been able to prove enough to

1228
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: move up to Pensacola.

1229
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 2: I think this year though, Yeah, I think it's fair

1230
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 2: to say Connor Scott just wasn't who we thought he

1231
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 2: was when he got drafted. There was a lot of

1232
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 2: question I feel like in my mind when we drafted him,

1233
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 2: and then there was a lot of hope, but he

1234
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 2: just didn't pan out the way I think we all

1235
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 2: hoped he would.

1236
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 10: Yeah, just remember he didn't miss the entire twenty twenties season.

1237
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 3: No, he was not one of the guys.

1238
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 10: I was in the sixty player pool and at the

1239
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 10: camp whatever was so you know, this would be this

1240
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 10: would have been the year that would keep a very,

1241
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 10: very very close eye on him.

1242
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 8: There with them is interesting, you know, with what they

1243
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 8: have in the outfield coming, you know what I mean

1244
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 8: with Cabrian and you know Swaggerty, who's supposed to be

1245
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 8: a very good prospect or at least a pretty good prospect,

1246
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 8: and then they have a guy that and I always

1247
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 8: say this to you guys, and I've said it to

1248
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 8: Kevin and Isaac before, they have a guy named cal

1249
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 8: Mitchell who is the.

1250
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 2: The cal Mitchell.

1251
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 8: He looks, he looks and plays exactly like so and

1252
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 8: he's right around the same level.

1253
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 4: So it's kind of ridiculous.

1254
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, cal Mitchell could be that really really sneaky sneaky

1255
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 2: outfielder in the Pirate system.

1256
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 10: Actually not to be too defensive for uh Connor Scott,

1257
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 10: but his first year of Pro Bowl, he's playing Clinton

1258
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 10: a lot, and that weather is just atrocious. And you

1259
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 10: get a kid from Tampa, you know, he's not used.

1260
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 10: You know, it's like freezing weather. It was horrible condition

1261
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 10: It wasn't dope conditioned. So I think that's something also

1262
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 10: that maybe if I can a negatively playing Huh.

1263
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 2: The weather's bad playing up north.

1264
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 10: Right, and he's this motherfucker swings with no batting gloves,

1265
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 10: So maybe he.

1266
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 2: Had to give you because he's a fucking badass.

1267
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a god bro. He's cool. He's a cool kid.

1268
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 10: He played at Plants with one of my friends, Chase Sanguinetti,

1269
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 10: and he's a He was nasty. They should have been

1270
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 10: interesting castes, though.

1271
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: The number eighteenth ranked prospect in the top thirty and

1272
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: MB pipeline a pretty good.

1273
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 2: I mean, so I think you said you had a

1274
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 2: buddy who played with Connor Scott. Yeah, that's that's pretty awesome.

1275
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I yeah, I think there's actually better

1276
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 10: player than Conor Scott that a body of mine has

1277
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 10: played with.

1278
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1279
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 10: You know, adrianille Castillo, he just got drafted by the Diamondbacks.

1280
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 10: He I think he's gonna be the best one that

1281
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 10: I've ever played with, for sure. And Joe Dunant, who's

1282
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 10: in them.

1283
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, have you guys ever heard of Kyle Manzardo.

1284
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 3: Man, it sounds familiar.

1285
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 2: He was a RaSE second round draft pick. I played.

1286
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 2: I played with him in high school and we want

1287
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 2: to stay titled together. And now he's he's a second

1288
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 2: round draft pick, and it's it's unreal.

1289
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 3: That's the Yeah, that's always like a running thing.

1290
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 10: I'm waiting to see who which one of my former

1291
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 10: teammates will be first to the big leagues exactly.

1292
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: That's That's exactly what I was because that's exactly what

1293
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 2: I've knew.

1294
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 3: There's like twelve or thirteen of them in professional ball.

1295
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 2: That's where do you live? You live in Florida?

1296
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I live in Miami.

1297
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1298
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 2: Florida developed some of the best hype, best prospects around

1299
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 2: from the from the schools.

1300
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, they really do a good job.

1301
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 4: Non Marlin's question, this thing that Jeter downs is going

1302
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 4: to be good?

1303
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 3: Oh a god, bro.

1304
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 4: We played him a couple of times Jeter Dawnas is

1305
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 4: such a god.

1306
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 3: He's well.

1307
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: When I was in six, he was a senior.

1308
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 2: I watched him when you were at Slam for a

1309
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 2: couple yeah months, beautiful swing.

1310
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1311
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 2: I got to see him play when he first got

1312
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 2: drafted by the Reds. Him and Hunter Green when they

1313
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 2: were in Billings, which was rookie ball. I drove two

1314
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 2: and a half hours to see them play, and Jeter

1315
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 2: down I I will never forget. He just smoked a

1316
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 2: ball so hard you could just hear it throughout the

1317
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 2: stadium in a beautiful swing.

1318
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 3: Oh it was nasty.

1319
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, those types of kids, it's different. It's different at bats,

1320
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 10: it's different quality of play. It's different.

1321
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 8: And you can see and you can hear that you

1322
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 8: talk like that like these they call him.

1323
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 4: Well, the adjective that I like is quick twitch athlete.

1324
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 8: And there are so many of them throughout especially at

1325
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 8: the Love was a Salad quick You talk about Khalil

1326
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 8: Watson quick twitch, Like, these are the guys that you

1327
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 8: look at and they checked so many boxes that and

1328
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 8: and it's it's ridiculous to be that like and those

1329
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 8: are the guys really kind of cling onto So yeah.

1330
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 3: I mean and and Jeter was one of them to

1331
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 3: down talked to.

1332
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 8: So it's exciting for these These position players normally start

1333
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 8: as like a shortstop and a lot of them move

1334
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 8: off of that pition, which will definitely happen with some

1335
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 8: of these.

1336
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 4: Guys in the Marlands organization if they stick.

1337
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 8: So yeah, I mean to have that kind of surplus,

1338
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 8: you know, these these supremely athletic guys is a credit

1339
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 8: to everything that's been built here.

1340
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 4: So it's it's really exciting to see that kind of stuff.

1341
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1342
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 10: I think the best player that we I think it

1343
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 10: was a Miami one was Brendan Rogers. Brandon Rodgers was

1344
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 10: like I think Orlando and Brendan Rodgers hit a ball

1345
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 10: like four hundred and ninety five feet off bends like

1346
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 10: it was it was in Arizona, to travel like it

1347
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 10: was a tournament in Arizona. That ball just went as

1348
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 10: far as I've ever seen a baseball go. Brendan Rodgers

1349
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 10: was so nasty. I was surprised when you didn't get

1350
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 10: it off to a good start in the Biggs.

1351
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 2: I met him in uh So. Since I live in Idaho,

1352
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 2: I try to go to Mariner games to get autographs

1353
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 2: as much as I can, and so I met my

1354
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 2: profile pictures of me and picture of me and Marte.

1355
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 2: But I got to meet Brendan Rodgers. He is honestly

1356
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 2: the nicest person you will ever meet.

1357
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's good.

1358
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 2: He is such a nice guy. He's he took time

1359
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 2: to sign and talk to the kids, and he even

1360
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 2: even like showed him like how he hits the ball.

1361
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 2: It was awesome. He's a great guy.

1362
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, good kid. I'm looking at class.

1363
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 4: What's up?

1364
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:45,919
Speaker 3: What's up?

1365
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: Dude? Every time he joined, you left like I would

1366
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: accept you, and I just like kicked you out for

1367
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: some reason. Does anybody want.

1368
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 10: To have a discussion post for me? And I'll pay them.

1369
01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 10: I just a discussion post for school. Yet it's so annoying, bro,

1370
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 10: it's about it's in information systems.

1371
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 3: It's so on.

1372
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 8: That's and where you live or where you have lived

1373
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 8: in the past, and our appreciative of Marlin's baseball.

1374
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 4: That's completely awesome.

1375
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 8: Like we talked about Peter Pratt, but the fact that

1376
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 8: you've lived in the states you've lived in and care

1377
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 8: about Marlin's baseball is completely cool.

1378
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 4: Like that's what this family need.

1379
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 8: People like you that that are not in South Florida

1380
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 8: that care about it.

1381
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 3: So that's really cool.

1382
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 10: Does anybody know how Alex Ferrara became a Moorlands fan

1383
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 10: since he lives in Arizona? Mm hmmm, becoming up a

1384
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 10: team like Ryan, you can like, how did that happen

1385
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 10: that you become a fan of a team that's so

1386
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 10: random to your geography?

1387
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: Well, for Eli was he was down here in mind?

1388
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 10: No, yeah, you know Eli, But like for example, like Ryan,

1389
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 10: like how did you become a Marlins fan?

1390
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 2: So I remember when I was a kid. My I

1391
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 2: had a lot of family and a lot of cousins

1392
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 2: that were down from like that Florida Georgia area, And

1393
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 2: so I remember when I was when I was a

1394
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 2: little kid watching Marlin's Baseball or like Marlin's Against the

1395
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 2: Praise and all that, and just seeing all those guys

1396
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 2: like co Nine, Pudge Handley, all those guys, Miggie, just

1397
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 2: seeing all the and Jim Leland and all that. Just

1398
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 2: seeing everybody.

1399
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 4: And then there for the old days. So you're probably

1400
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:33,919
Speaker 4: like round my age. So that's off.

1401
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, like I'm from here, down here in

1402
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 8: South Florida, and I've I've moved back since you know,

1403
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 8: since I've been an adult, but with my teenagers and

1404
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,959
Speaker 8: growing up high school and stuff. I was in San Diego, California,

1405
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 8: so about the furthest the way possible. But I still,

1406
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:51,959
Speaker 8: of course a fan because this is my hometown team.

1407
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 4: But you're this is not your hometown team.

1408
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 8: So that that for you, for somebody that this is

1409
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 8: not your hometown team to still appreciate it, That's what

1410
01:03:58,480 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 8: I meant that that's super cool.

1411
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 2: I've got my own customized jersey, and I've been to

1412
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 2: one Marlin series. It was back when they traveled to Seattle,

1413
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 2: and I will never forget. I got a picture with

1414
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 2: Yelich and I will never forget Stanton hitting a home

1415
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 2: run all the way off Ken Griffy's Hall of Fame

1416
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 2: plaque in centerfield. It was unraaled. I want to kind

1417
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 2: of make it down to Miami.

1418
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 3: I remember that I didn't see where that shit landed.

1419
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 3: Now I know, oh dude.

1420
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 2: That landed that deep in center right where they have

1421
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 2: all the hired plaques. That thing was Mamma jammered. I

1422
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 2: was there for way intense. Almost no hitter.

1423
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 11: Was that the game where the Marlins were in Seattle,

1424
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 11: and it was considered a home game for them. Yeah.

1425
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 2: Well I don't think it was considered a home game,

1426
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 2: but they weren't Seattle.

1427
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 6: No.

1428
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 10: But yeah, that that game that you're referring to, that

1429
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 10: was a lot that was like in twenty ten. Yeah,

1430
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 10: I think I think it was you two had a

1431
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 10: concert in Miami. So conflicted, So they made the the

1432
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 10: Mariners host the Marlins home game.

1433
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: M How does that work?

1434
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 3: What do you mean work?

1435
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 4: They just go to Seattle work?

1436
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: But for the team, do you have to put like

1437
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: Marlins stuff on?

1438
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 4: No on the screen?

1439
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 10: No, ship, it's just the only the only difference is

1440
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 10: that the Marlins hit second.

1441
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't make it. They don't change they make

1442
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 2: it a Marlin stadium. They don't bring out the big

1443
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 2: Fish Chrish Merry go round in centerfield.

1444
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

1445
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 10: Like when announcing the starting lineups, maybe they put more

1446
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 10: emphasis on the Marlins, but like, I don't know, maybe

1447
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 10: they do that because that does affect home feel advantage,

1448
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 10: you know.

1449
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 3: That's what you imagine. They're like, you know it works

1450
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 3: for us when we got home exactly.

1451
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 2: Did you imagine yelling now Carlo Stanton and then nobody's sharing.

1452
01:05:58,160 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 3: That's how you know we're in a lockout. Bro, this

1453
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 3: is we're talking about.

1454
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 2: Dude.

1455
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 1: Just lookout?

1456
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 2: Is blockouts killing me? Dude?

1457
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 10: Like, this is what we're talking about? Yeah, just something

1458
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 10: fun to that bullshit.

1459
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 13: I got a question for guys, what's a prospect that

1460
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 13: you guys like that turned out to be complete and

1461
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 13: utter garbage that you were like, Oh man, this has

1462
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 13: going to be you know, great or or anything, and

1463
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 13: then turned out to be the exact opposite a prospect.

1464
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 11: Yo, Oh man, I'm not going to all speak up

1465
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 11: at the same time.

1466
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 4: Jesus Christ, I'm not gonna lie to you.

1467
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 2: I had I had a lot of hope for Lewis

1468
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 2: Brinson on did I had. I had a lot of

1469
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 2: hope for Lewis because I saw him play when he

1470
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 2: was in When he was in the Ranger system, he

1471
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 2: was playing in Spokane, which was thirty minutes away from me,

1472
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 2: so I got to see him play. I just had

1473
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 2: a lot of hope him just from seeing him play

1474
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 2: in the minors. But that went horribly bad.

1475
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 11: When I was thirteen, I thought Chris fall Sad was

1476
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 11: gonna be the next stuff.

1477
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that one was annoying.

1478
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 1: Like they hyped the guys so much.

1479
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 8: Hold on, Kevin, there's no Monte Harrison slander.

1480
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 5: I'm not.

1481
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 1: I still like I'm actually, I'm actually gonna say he's

1482
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 1: never had a consistent chance at the m LD.

1483
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 2: He's had his shot, but Monte not enough to play

1484
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 2: consistent ring.

1485
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 8: I will I will say it and be completely wrong

1486
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 8: next year if it doesn't happen. I still think Monte

1487
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 8: Harrison is going to be a at least the floor

1488
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 8: fourth outfielder. And you guys can call me wrong and

1489
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 8: maybe it won't be. I'll die on that freaking hill.

1490
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 8: I don't care. I will die on that hill.

1491
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 4: Monte Harrison is a good baseball player.

1492
01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,919
Speaker 11: I'll admit. Lewis Printon tricked me during that one month

1493
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 11: this season.

1494
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 2: He was playing with a hard sing. He just he

1495
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 2: just randomly said, hey, let's play baseball and then disappoint

1496
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:07,959
Speaker 2: him again.

1497
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 4: Brinson Brinson was was an issue.

1498
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 8: I mean, and the thing with that guy, and listen,

1499
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 8: I I not that I'm saying I I don't really

1500
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 8: blame him for his issues and definitely had his own issues.

1501
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 8: But the guy went through like four hitting coaches, he

1502
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 8: went through four different philosophies.

1503
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 4: He was told four different things.

1504
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 8: He went through like four or five different hitting stances

1505
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,799
Speaker 8: and you know, hand placement, everything else that that baseball

1506
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 8: players go through.

1507
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 4: You're to figure it out, and then it was just

1508
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 4: like okay, well you start to figure out and then

1509
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 4: you suck.

1510
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 8: So it's it's you know, it's it's sometimes to scouting

1511
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 8: and how players, how pitchers and organizations shouted him at

1512
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,440
Speaker 8: the major league level and it didn't work out.

1513
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 4: It really does. It really happens, and it is what

1514
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 4: it is. You know, I love Lewis.

1515
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 8: You know, he's from Carls Springs where I'm living right now,

1516
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 8: and I grew up most of my childhood, went to

1517
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 8: Carls Springs High School. Great dude, one of the nicest

1518
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,679
Speaker 8: guys that you could ever meet, did tons of stuff

1519
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 8: for charity and continues to do so. Like great dude,

1520
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 8: kind a better steward for the game of baseball. Just

1521
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 8: didn't work out field, and it happens.

1522
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 4: It really happens.

1523
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 8: And you know, in comparison to that, you have you

1524
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 8: have other guys that do fantastic on the playing field

1525
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 8: and do jack ship nothing for the game of baseball,

1526
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 8: so or even deter the game of baseball like Barry

1527
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 8: Bond or Mike Piazza, Like these guys didn't do that

1528
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 8: much for the game, but were great on the field.

1529
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 4: Bobby Bania is another one. So you know, you you.

1530
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 8: Can be a great person and a terrible player. Where

1531
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,759
Speaker 8: you be a terrible person and a great.

1532
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,839
Speaker 2: Is getting paid a ton of money up baseball right now.

1533
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 4: Right exactly. I mean, it's what it is. It sucked Lewis.

1534
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 8: I really hope he clicks on with another team, figures

1535
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 8: it out because he deserves it.

1536
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 4: He's a he's a great dude. He's a grinder out

1537
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 4: there every day. You know. Was was every.

1538
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 8: Spring training, my marketing spring training that I ever went to.

1539
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 8: He was there every single day, one of the first

1540
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,719
Speaker 8: guys on the field, first guys out of the house.

1541
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 4: Really wanted it to work here. It didn't happen. So

1542
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 4: it is what it is.

1543
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 8: I really hope he can figure it out in some

1544
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 8: capacity at the major league level because he has some tools.

1545
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 8: I mean, there's no denying tool just hasn't permeated so far.

1546
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 1: His defense was always great, it was just the offensive Britson. Oh.

1547
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 2: Defensively, yeah, defensively, he's a he's a.

1548
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 1: Good defensively, it was the offense.

1549
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 2: Defense he was a great he was he could have

1550
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 2: been a great defensive center fielder if he could have

1551
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 2: proven like.

1552
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: The worst Jackie.

1553
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 3: The thing that was.

1554
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 8: Bad you guys know, Daniel and Kevin no like and

1555
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 8: Alex Like. The thing that hurts the most is that

1556
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 8: he's at these like making you know, games and and

1557
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 8: and sessions with Maggie and all these other guys in

1558
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 8: the that are current Marlins and there's and he can't

1559
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 8: be part of that picture that Maggie posts on Twitter

1560
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 8: because he's not on the Marlins anymore. Like that must

1561
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 8: hurt him to the fucking core because he grew up

1562
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 8: with these guys, like this is the organization. Well maybe

1563
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 8: not grew up, but this is the organization that he's

1564
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 8: been part of for a long time. And that really so,

1565
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:29,640
Speaker 8: I mean, I feel for that guy because he's, like

1566
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 8: I said, he's he's a great dude, great person.

1567
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 4: Super I mean, if you ever speak to him, he's

1568
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 4: so nuts it just sucks. Uh Yeah, I mean I

1569
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 4: wish him the best. I really really hope he clicks

1570
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 4: on with in the organization.

1571
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 8: The change of scenery really helps me because I think

1572
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 8: he could still be serviceable in some capacity.

1573
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 3: Image of baseball.

1574
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:59,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a great guy.

1575
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 4: For these top prospects.

1576
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 6: Like how long do you give it before or you know,

1577
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 6: you say their favor Like how many years would you

1578
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 6: say you give it?

1579
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 13: Maybe in the minors, are in the majors until you

1580
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 13: can actually, you know.

1581
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 3: It depends on the peripheral numbers, you just.

1582
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,719
Speaker 2: I guess it depends on It depends on the number,

1583
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 2: but I guess it also depends on who's in front

1584
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 2: of you. Yeah, because you know, playing second fiddle and

1585
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 2: not producing, that's the whole different thing than being the

1586
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 2: star child and not producing.

1587
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,719
Speaker 4: It's not only about number. I think that's the wrong narrative.

1588
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,799
Speaker 8: It's not only about you know, how high batting averages

1589
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:36,679
Speaker 8: or how many home runs.

1590
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:40,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why he said the peripherals like those numbers tools.

1591
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 4: Well, as I said, it's about how your tools grow.

1592
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 8: You know, if you show up, you know, the one

1593
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 8: camp and you're one seventy and then you show up

1594
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 8: in camp and your one night time that show that

1595
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,640
Speaker 8: shows that you put in the work, That shows that

1596
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 8: you're putting in the work to get better. You know,

1597
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 8: stuff like that. If you're stagnating like Tristan Pompey did

1598
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 8: for Dirty Year, Toy, Dirty Year, and you're the same

1599
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 8: guy year after year.

1600
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 4: That's I'm not calling out Tristan Pompey.

1601
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 3: I wish him well.

1602
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 4: I'm not horrible, but.

1603
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:16,679
Speaker 8: That kind of thing, like you show up as that

1604
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 8: that lanky little guy in your draft year and then

1605
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 8: you're still that lanky little guy in five years, that's.

1606
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 4: Something that you don't put it in the work.

1607
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 8: And I know Eli right now on fish Stripes, I

1608
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 8: think that's probably am six Santa another one.

1609
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:32,839
Speaker 4: I'll bring it up. I know it's a hard.

1610
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 8: I know Eli's gonna hate me, but Sixar Sanchez has

1611
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 8: done absolutely zero, zero, nothing to prove that he that

1612
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,759
Speaker 8: he is a that he has committed to his craft

1613
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 8: and committed to staying in the gym and committed to

1614
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 8: improving off the field as well as on the field.

1615
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 4: He's done nothing. And you see it in his videos.

1616
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 8: And I'm not gonna just qualify it to this, but

1617
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 8: you call courts as well. He hosts a video on

1618
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 8: Instagram and he's throwing the baseball literally for the first

1619
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 8: time in months probably, and he looks like a fucking

1620
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 8: little leaguer.

1621
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 2: So the other literally comments.

1622
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 8: Yeah, I hate to put it down to that. I

1623
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 8: hate to be so blunt with you guys.

1624
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 4: I'm straight up. If I see something, I'm gonna say it.

1625
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 4: And that's what I say. Is a guy that that

1626
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 4: is not committed to this game. He's not committed to improving.

1627
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:38,639
Speaker 8: He's not better, and it's it sucks, I mean, because

1628
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 8: he could be very good, and he was very good.

1629
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 8: He saw him in the playoffs, pitch saw him in

1630
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 8: spring training, was very good. But he's just not committed.

1631
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 8: He's more committed to posing in front of his Instagram pictures.

1632
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 8: So it is that's the mindset and and not each

1633
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 8: it's the correct mindset, and it's very hard to get.

1634
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 8: I'm I am with his most recent delay in getting backfield,

1635
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 8: which who notes if that's gonna happen hy April fifth,

1636
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 8: probably not.

1637
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:13,639
Speaker 4: And I am I met personally Alex Carverer.

1638
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 8: I'm i'm I'm very much out on six dough Sanchez

1639
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 8: and he will fly down my prospect's rankings very soon.

1640
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: So I wanted to make another prospect ranking. I want

1641
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 1: todd a couple of you guys, and one of those

1642
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,560
Speaker 1: is one that you mentioned, which is Antonio Villas. That

1643
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 1: guy is nasty.

1644
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 11: Oh my god, Florida state, Florida state product.

1645
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1646
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 11: I think I think six though, being a bust on

1647
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 11: the way would be uh more disappointing than Brinson being

1648
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 11: a bust because we've actually seen what six Stoe can do,

1649
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:48,520
Speaker 11: like you said, Alex, like he was great in the playoffs.

1650
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 11: He was great that season and we've actually seen what

1651
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 11: he can do when he actually cares, and now just

1652
01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 11: seems like like he doesn't. And I think it seemed

1653
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 11: more frustrating than Brinson, where we didn't even really see

1654
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 11: how good Princeton can be.

1655
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 10: You know, guys, I think people overestimate how the performance

1656
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 10: he did in the playoffs. He was very He was

1657
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 10: okay in Chicago against a really bad team that struggled

1658
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 10: all year long against velocity, right especially with that weather,

1659
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 10: and so he was good. It was five innings he struggled.

1660
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 10: It wasn't you know, an easy five innings up there.

1661
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 10: It was a tough one. And then in Atlanta it

1662
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 10: was the absolutely worst start you could hope for. That

1663
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 10: Braves knew what was coming even the first sinning. He

1664
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 10: should have given up five runs of that Atlanta Braves

1665
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 10: started the division series, so he was good during the

1666
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 10: regular season. He even had some plunkers repeating the same team,

1667
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 10: so I still, obviously I think he's gonna be I

1668
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 10: think he has all the potential of the world. Think's

1669
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 10: nast He's one of my favorites, higher floor than most people,

1670
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 10: aside from the injuries, but everyone's oh, he was so nasty.

1671
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 3: In the playoffs. He was okay, he was good. He

1672
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:55,680
Speaker 3: held his own in the playoffs, is what I would say.

1673
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 3: At best.

1674
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 4: You say high floor Isaac, and you're right. I think

1675
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 4: you're absolutely right. Like hot, very hip flora, he's got velocity,

1676
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 4: two good breakers. I mean, we see everything, and.

1677
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 8: We've seen everything that he's capable of, but can't put

1678
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 8: his mind to it.

1679
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 3: And it's very exactly that's why he's shooting himself in

1680
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:11,639
Speaker 3: the foot.

1681
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 4: He's got to stay healthy for once, right, and don't

1682
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 4: put your mind to it.

1683
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:17,640
Speaker 8: If you don't get in the gym, if don't you know,

1684
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 8: do what your coaches are telling you. It's very hard.

1685
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 8: Even though he's twenty two. I know he's still twenty two.

1686
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 8: I know there's still time. He would say, I.

1687
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 1: Want you want to come on and defense.

1688
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 3: Sixty six is a god bro, He's just an idiot.

1689
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 2: I think the best difference. I think the best thing

1690
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:43,839
Speaker 2: that Sixto has on his side right now is his age.

1691
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 2: He has, we have time, So that's like the number

1692
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 2: one thing he has on his side. But he can't

1693
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 2: let that, can't let that slip. He's got it, stay healthy.

1694
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 8: Right, But Ryan, listen, and this is what I'm getting at.

1695
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 8: There are things that cannot be taught to a baseball player.

1696
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

1697
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 8: One of them is that to commit yourself to the craft.

1698
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 8: And this man, this young man, cannot do it. Cannot

1699
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:12,839
Speaker 8: do it period.

1700
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 4: I just can't do it.

1701
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:18,719
Speaker 8: And unless he makes a complete one eighty in that regard,

1702
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 8: he won't be a major league baseball player for now.

1703
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 3: Maybe he's maybe he's a mentally late bloomer.

1704
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 2: He'll and he'll, Isaac, I love I love the optimism.

1705
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 2: I love this.

1706
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the incredible optimist.

1707
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 12: And Isaac is I mean, hey, I was a physically

1708
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 12: mentally laid bloomer too.

1709
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 4: So he's only twenty two.

1710
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 3: I'm older than the guy.

1711
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 10: So maybe you know, maybe he gets his head on right.

1712
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 4: Probably six two so players, and that doesn't mean that.

1713
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 10: They're good, and I think he's got enough you know,

1714
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 10: intelligent people around him breathing down his neck making sure

1715
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 10: that he changes because you know, at this point it's

1716
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 10: getting worried. To me, it's a it's a hope for

1717
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 10: a twenty twenty three opening, a rotation spot.

1718
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 3: You know.

1719
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 1: That's that's that's where we're at.

1720
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 10: That wouldn't be a horrible idea to sign as an

1721
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:11,719
Speaker 10: n R I for some innings in just in case

1722
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 10: in triple A. Yeah, it wouldn't be the worst thing

1723
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 10: in the world to have some of his depth and

1724
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 10: make some spot starts.

1725
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:23,719
Speaker 8: Honestly, I lost on all three of those trades, for

1726
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 8: for for for JT Realmuto for.

1727
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 4: And for Christianelich. They lost all three period. But they won.

1728
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 3: They won.

1729
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 4: Don't look great, man, They did win.

1730
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 3: They won o Zona. They probably washed on Gordon they won.

1731
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, they won.

1732
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 3: Caleb, they won, Caleb and Cooper they won.

1733
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 10: They won, They won a few I would say they won.

1734
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 2: They could They could still win the j T trade.

1735
01:19:56,280 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 10: If no, I think that should still Yes, he signed,

1736
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 10: think yeah, Philly got the best catch baseball.

1737
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, well yeah, top five trade is done. I think

1738
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 4: this is My question for you.

1739
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 8: The success rate of trades that Derek Jayor performed.

1740
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:17,919
Speaker 10: Go ahead, the success rate of a great or like

1741
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 10: a percentage uh like of thecause there's a list.

1742
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:23,440
Speaker 4: I would say there's like eleven.

1743
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 10: Or twelve somewhat significant trades that he's done.

1744
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 3: So what do you want, like a percentage or a

1745
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 3: grade or what?

1746
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 4: I mean? The big ones, the big ones, he lost.

1747
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 10: Everything, I mean the big the big five, it would

1748
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 10: be he lost. You're right, he lost all of them

1749
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 10: except the Gordon want is to wash right.

1750
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 2: I don't think he won a lot. I don't know

1751
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 2: what the percentage is, but I don't think he won

1752
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 2: a lot of those.

1753
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 3: But then you have to look at those ones like

1754
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 3: that twenty nineteen trade deadline.

1755
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 10: They won every single one of those, you know, for

1756
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 10: Chris Vallimont and Sergio Rome, you get you know, that's

1757
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 10: I think they won all of those trades, those trades

1758
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 10: that the time, it was sketchy, the Gallon one, but

1759
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 10: I think he won every Michael Hill won all three

1760
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 10: of those mid season trades in twenty nineteen, and they

1761
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:14,480
Speaker 10: definitely crushed Umberto and j and Marte.

1762
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,480
Speaker 5: You know, why do you pronounce.

1763
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 10: That I don't know, because that guy's that his name

1764
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 10: forever will be in my heart, the name that got away.

1765
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1766
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 4: Sure he's had some some wins.

1767
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 3: Good evening, guys, by way, good evening, Happy late birthday, brother, Yes,

1768
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 3: thank you.

1769
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:37,759
Speaker 10: The first of the initial five Alex the main corps

1770
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 10: from that regime, the previous regime.

1771
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 4: That so he lost eighty percent of them.

1772
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 2: And now I know we're I know, we're talking about

1773
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 2: one trade. What do you guys think about the Marte

1774
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 2: and Lozardo trade?

1775
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 3: It was dope enough.

1776
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 10: I don't know, man, that's a tough one because it's

1777
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:56,560
Speaker 10: five It was dope enough. It was like you know

1778
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 10: what I mean, like the.

1779
01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 3: Non professional it was I don't know, because it's five

1780
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:02,599
Speaker 3: years of a of a hot, high potential guy.

1781
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:04,719
Speaker 1: Love the five year.

1782
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm completely fine, fine with that tight yeah, you know,

1783
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:15,520
Speaker 5: especially there was no way they were signing Marcha for

1784
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:17,680
Speaker 5: for that amount of money. Then he signed up with

1785
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 5: the Mets.

1786
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 2: And but that's the thing.

1787
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 3: They what they're what they're Daniel.

1788
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 10: What they were offering Marte right now the off season

1789
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 10: before the Mets was more than they were offering him

1790
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 10: mid season.

1791
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, but they could have done it, but they were not. Yeah,

1792
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 5: but they were not signing him anyway. Yeah, of course,

1793
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:37,440
Speaker 5: maybe I'd rather have marche for.

1794
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 2: I had a lot of hope from Marte.

1795
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:43,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe maybe Marchia for four or five years than

1796
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 5: having Lusardo for the same amount of time. But it's

1797
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 5: not going to hurt you to have another left arm

1798
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 5: with his potential and and his age.

1799
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,599
Speaker 2: So we have a lot of pitching the miners.

1800
01:22:56,439 --> 01:23:00,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, but but but it's better to have more pitching.

1801
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, enough pictures, no such things.

1802
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 5: You never have enough pictures and enough good pictures because

1803
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 5: you can, you can have plenty of pictures, but if.

1804
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 2: You can lose three pictures in a week, well, we

1805
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,680
Speaker 2: saw that, right, yeh, That's what I'm bringing up.

1806
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 5: We saw that, so so yeah, I'm thinking on that one.

1807
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 5: And and I think obviously what I was able to

1808
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 5: see a couple of weeks ago in in in West

1809
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 5: Palm was pretty small sample size. But but I think,

1810
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 5: but I think Haysius did really really good in the

1811
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 5: off season. Physically, he's he's fine, and his pictures are

1812
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:44,720
Speaker 5: are working really good. As far as I'm concerned with

1813
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 5: what I saw and what I've heard from from other

1814
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 5: players that have been working out with him.

1815
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 3: So I think he's gonna be good.

1816
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 10: I I one of my ball takes was a Lozard

1817
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 10: to a second on the Marlins and twenty twenty two

1818
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 10: and innings pitched.

1819
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 3: Behind behind Sandy. What about Pablo, I think, I think

1820
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 3: Lozardo pitches. I think Louzardo pitches mornings and Pablo really.

1821
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 2: To limit him.

1822
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 5: I just hope that that prediction is right for you.

1823
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 5: As long as Luzarda goes and throws one hundred and.

1824
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 2: Ninety five, right, two can't be limited, right exactly.

1825
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 4: That that's the hope that he throws at least.

1826
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 5: Rather than Pap, than Luzardo pitch in one thirty and

1827
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 5: Pablo eighty because he got hurt again.

1828
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 7: Exactly.

1829
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 10: That's the that's the optimistic, bold take that he pitches

1830
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 10: at one ninety five, at one eighty, Trevor's at one eighty,

1831
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 10: one seventy, because if.

1832
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 2: That happens, that happened, because that means loss.

1833
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 10: Right, that means Luzardo's pitching. Just pitch it, just you know,

1834
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 10: pitch well enough, you know three and a half, and

1835
01:24:58,000 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 10: that'll make him insanely valuable if they ever want to

1836
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 10: flip them too.

1837
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: So I know we spoke about Reynolds.

1838
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 8: That man I would have for Danny that's seen him

1839
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 8: more recently than anybody.

1840
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:13,759
Speaker 4: Is because the command has always been his issue.

1841
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 8: He has pitches. I mean I covered him in high school.

1842
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 8: Was that Douglas. I saw him pitch like incredible in

1843
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 8: high school. He was garnering the west side of the zone,

1844
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 8: in the zone, everything else. But when he's not commanding,

1845
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 8: this guy is is off for sure. And I think

1846
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 8: we saw that with the Marlins, that that he could

1847
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 8: not really command as well as he needs to command.

1848
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 4: So my question for Danny would be where was he

1849
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 4: spotting pitches? And you're looking at.

1850
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 5: Him, Uh, he was working both corners, both sides of

1851
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:47,720
Speaker 5: the plate and and and that's what and that's what

1852
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 5: he was doing really good at least from from what

1853
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 5: I saw, and with speed that I think that's some

1854
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 5: some some something important for him. The thing is that, yeah,

1855
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 5: if if he looks good there, we would say oh yeah,

1856
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 5: but it was a live VP with teammates, you know,

1857
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,720
Speaker 5: on a private field he looks bad, we say, hey,

1858
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 5: he's not looking good. But we also can say, well,

1859
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 5: it's not a game situation. Oh yeah, it doesn't matter.

1860
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 5: But at least from what I'm hearing and what I saw,

1861
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 5: I can be very very optimistic. I'm not saying that

1862
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 5: the guy is going to be, you know, he's going

1863
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 5: to be I don't know, fifteen and six with a

1864
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 5: two eighty r A because I don't think he's that

1865
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 5: type of picture.

1866
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 4: But he I think that's a whole different end of

1867
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 4: season exactly.

1868
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 5: Because I think that that he can do really, really

1869
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 5: good And that's that's what I'm hoping for.

1870
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 3: That's the thing.

1871
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 10: Like his floor is so fascinating, Like it's hard to

1872
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 10: put a you know, a proper judgment on the floor

1873
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 10: of Lozardo. It's I don't know whether it's a decently

1874
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 10: high one just based on or it can be a

1875
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 10: really low floor because you know, his ability to get wrapped.

1876
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:08,799
Speaker 5: And that also could could dependent on the way they

1877
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 5: use him exactly, because if he's gonna be an every

1878
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 5: day like every five day starter, then it changes the

1879
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:19,639
Speaker 5: whole thing. Now if you if you go for him

1880
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 5: or with him like every three days with a couple

1881
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:28,440
Speaker 5: of innings or three innings, then it's different, right and

1882
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 5: and and.

1883
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 2: He could be that long term guy every couple of

1884
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:32,440
Speaker 2: days exactly.

1885
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 5: I mean and and and that depends and and he.

1886
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 3: Got hit out of the bullpen as well. I think

1887
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 3: if he's gonna suck in, he's gonna stuck. If he's

1888
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 3: gonna suck, he's gonna suck in the rotation end of

1889
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 3: the bullpen. I don't think that's gonna I don't know.

1890
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 5: I think special the one the one thing that worries me.

1891
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:52,640
Speaker 5: And and maybe I'll have more, you know, backing up

1892
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 5: with what Craig said last week or this week, because

1893
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 5: I've I've been talking to to the guy is six

1894
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:01,599
Speaker 5: to I mean, I'm really worried about him.

1895
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 3: Then, yeah, damn, you missed the talk and.

1896
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 5: I I missed the talk yeah this week because of

1897
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 5: course that was extremely busy.

1898
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 3: But what were you doing?

1899
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 8: But Danny, Yeah, and you've been around this game longer

1900
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 8: than than many of us.

1901
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 4: Your mom has been around this for a very long

1902
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 4: time as well.

1903
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:22,599
Speaker 8: Uh.

1904
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 4: You guys do incredible work.

1905
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 8: But let me just ask you, and I have mentioned

1906
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 8: this before before you got on, how how hard is

1907
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 8: it to teach a baseball player any baseball I don't care,

1908
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 8: I don't care if you're you know, a bottom of

1909
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 8: the barrel prospect or six Sanchez. How hard is teach

1910
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 8: the fact that you that you need to get in

1911
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 8: the gym, that you need to commit yourself to your

1912
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 8: cra like you could be the worst player or the

1913
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:51,679
Speaker 8: best player.

1914
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 2: I don't think you are.

1915
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 8: How hard is it to teach that that kind of

1916
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 8: work asthect that it requires to be a frontnd starter

1917
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 8: in Major League Baseball?

1918
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:00,719
Speaker 4: Tell us please?

1919
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 5: The thing Alex with at least in our position, is

1920
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 5: that I don't think we are in a position to

1921
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 5: teach the player that he should be doing this or that.

1922
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 5: I mean the player. The player is already you know,

1923
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 5: a grown man, a professional player that should know what

1924
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 5: he has to do in order to to be to

1925
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 5: be better right and to perform the way the way

1926
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 5: he should. Now, when you have confidence with the player,

1927
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 5: uh and and the trust of him, and let's say

1928
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 5: a friendship, and I can say I have a very

1929
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 5: strong friendship with With some players, it's not that easy

1930
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 5: because they have their their own thoughts and their own

1931
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 5: routines and also their egos at some point. So so

1932
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 5: it's not that easy. With the sixth CE case, I

1933
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 5: don't know who can who can talk to him I

1934
01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 5: don't think I'm in the position too to to do it.

1935
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 5: Whenever I talk to him next week, and I'm just

1936
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 5: gonna ask him and then maybe I can tell him

1937
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 5: a recommendation that, hey, I think you should do this,

1938
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 5: But it's it's it's not that easy because again, we

1939
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 5: have a job to do, and unless you have a

1940
01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 5: pretty good relationship with the player, it's not that easy either.

1941
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 4: Yeah. And I'm not saying any of us are qualified

1942
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 4: to have that talk.

1943
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 5: I'm just saying no, no, But I get your point.

1944
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, the ability to keep that to a player that

1945
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 8: does not have that is.

1946
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:37,640
Speaker 5: Almost impossible, and it is impossible.

1947
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 4: So I don't know.

1948
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 8: I don't know if still has it. I doubt that

1949
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 8: he does. You know, others can say that he does

1950
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:46,680
Speaker 8: and it just hasn't happened yet. He's still twenty two.

1951
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:49,960
Speaker 8: I understand that, but man, he's got two behind the

1952
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:50,719
Speaker 8: scenes too, if.

1953
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:55,800
Speaker 5: You Yeah, I think that it's even hard for for

1954
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 5: coaches to do it when they are at that level.

1955
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 5: I'm not only on like on the personal side and

1956
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 5: when they what they should do like off the field,

1957
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 5: but even on the field, uh, you know, on the

1958
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 5: baseball side, it's it's tough to go. I mean for

1959
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 5: I mean, players can make adjustments, but it's hard to

1960
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 5: teach them something new when they are at this point,

1961
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:23,800
Speaker 5: I mean the big LIGs, right and and And I'm

1962
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 5: bringing up this because I see people saying, hey, players

1963
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:32,679
Speaker 5: should learn how to beat the shift, and I'm like, well,

1964
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:36,639
Speaker 5: if a player, and I've read they should learn how

1965
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 5: you hit. And I'm like, well, if they're in the

1966
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:41,559
Speaker 5: big leaks, it's because they know how to hit. The

1967
01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 5: thing is that it's not that easy to make those adjustments,

1968
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:49,559
Speaker 5: you know, from one day to the other, when you've

1969
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 5: been doing the same thing almost for your entire life,

1970
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:56,280
Speaker 5: or at least since they got to a competitive level

1971
01:31:56,960 --> 01:32:00,000
Speaker 5: you can call that high school or college, or if

1972
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 5: if they signed out of the Dominican Republic or Venezuela

1973
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:07,679
Speaker 5: since they were fourteen and fifteen years old. And it's

1974
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 5: not it's not that easy, And it's not easy on

1975
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:14,360
Speaker 5: today's game when when you have the best pictures of

1976
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:20,120
Speaker 5: all time, you know, throwing harder and with nastier sliders

1977
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:23,880
Speaker 5: and curbels and sinkers and different types of purchase or do.

1978
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 10: You have Bruce, you know exactly, how can you make it,

1979
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 10: it's ridiculous, like, oh, if I'm going to hit a

1980
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 10: hard ground ball up the middle over the mound and

1981
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:34,840
Speaker 10: it's a ground it's a four to three or the

1982
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 10: sixth three like fun that.

1983
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's it's a tough one. I don't know.

1984
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:43,360
Speaker 10: I don't know I feel about the banning of shows yet.

1985
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 10: I need to think about it somewhere. I don't know,

1986
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:47,519
Speaker 10: And I see, I see. That's when I really do

1987
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 10: see both sides of it. Like I think it's that's

1988
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 10: limited maybe somehow, but also like at the same time,

1989
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 10: you're right, these Major leaallts, You're right, like these Major

1990
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 10: leaguers should be able to way back because also when

1991
01:32:57,400 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 10: there's runners on base, they tend to ship a lot less.

1992
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 3: You know. That's also something to keep in mind. Mm hmm. Yeah, yeah,

1993
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:07,640
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1994
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:12,679
Speaker 8: It's an interesting conversation. The league wants more offense. It's clear,

1995
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:14,840
Speaker 8: you know that's what they want. They want more offense,

1996
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:16,680
Speaker 8: they want more excitement, they want more home runs, they

1997
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 8: want more runs.

1998
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 4: You know that that's what the league wants. They want

1999
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 4: to create this game.

2000
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:23,320
Speaker 5: I think this, this is going to change the game

2001
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:30,720
Speaker 5: completely for every single player and I mean hitters, of course, pitchers,

2002
01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, race obviously are will will go higher,

2003
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:40,599
Speaker 5: but even the infielders, like we see many infielders having

2004
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 5: you know, good numbers, good defensive numbers because of the shift.

2005
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:50,519
Speaker 5: But now is when we're gonna value those, especially the

2006
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 5: middle infielders that have more range and more capacity to

2007
01:33:55,280 --> 01:34:00,120
Speaker 5: to get to tougher or further ground balls. And and

2008
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:02,840
Speaker 5: I think that's going to change the perspective on many

2009
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:05,160
Speaker 5: infielders that we have right now in the game.

2010
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:08,800
Speaker 8: It's just a it's just an interesting contrast for me

2011
01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:14,280
Speaker 8: between collegiate baseball. In collegiate baseball nowadays, they just implemented

2012
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 8: this thing or and I guess it's been around for

2013
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 8: a little longer than probably is known. Where you know,

2014
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:24,280
Speaker 8: of course, we know that a catcher behind the plate

2015
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:27,599
Speaker 8: in collegiate baseball isn't really counted on to call the game,

2016
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 8: right whereas in Major League baseball at least nowadays, that

2017
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 8: the the catchers is that's that's that's one of his

2018
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:40,120
Speaker 8: main duties. But now, you know, pitchers in collegiate baseball

2019
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:41,720
Speaker 8: have this thing on their arm that they have the

2020
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:44,679
Speaker 8: sequence thing. They know what pitch to throw in any situation.

2021
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 8: They know how to sequence and that's given to them

2022
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:50,719
Speaker 8: by coaching. And now in Major League Baseball, you're taking

2023
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 8: the coach further out of the game, you know what

2024
01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:56,559
Speaker 8: I mean, where you're you're taking that ability away from

2025
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 8: a Major League Baseball coach to to align it infield.

2026
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:04,200
Speaker 8: So it's just it's just really weird. I mean, I

2027
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:06,800
Speaker 8: I really, I mean, I know what they want, what

2028
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 8: the league wants. I know they want more offense. I

2029
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 8: understand it.

2030
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:11,479
Speaker 4: It's just I don't know.

2031
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:15,800
Speaker 8: It's just a really weird disconnect between the growth of

2032
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 8: the game and how it's gone and and what this

2033
01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:23,559
Speaker 8: corporation in MLB wants to to broaden their audience for

2034
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:26,639
Speaker 8: further their audience, I should say. So it's it's really weird.

2035
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:29,800
Speaker 8: You know, I get it from a certain standpoint, but

2036
01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 8: from a certain stand point I don't.

2037
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 4: And it's definitely gonna change things for sure. As Danny said,

2038
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 4: So it's weird anyways.

2039
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know it is a I do on that aspect.

2040
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:45,760
Speaker 5: Let's see what's gonna happen. I mean, I think these

2041
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 5: lockout thing, it's gonna it's gonna hard hard a lot

2042
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:53,920
Speaker 5: of people. And also the true changes as well. I

2043
01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 5: was thinking, for example, with the with the electronic distract,

2044
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:04,840
Speaker 5: so I mean with the grobombs, think about sketchers now

2045
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:11,759
Speaker 5: in the minors not having to worry about yeah about framing.

2046
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's really wildly really we just don't.

2047
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:20,600
Speaker 4: Man, that's like really.

2048
01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:23,439
Speaker 8: From a guy like like you said, Stallings, Isaac, or

2049
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 8: how much does that take away from a prospect like

2050
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:30,679
Speaker 8: will Banfield. Yeah, you know, that's that's his strength, that's

2051
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 8: his main strength. And you're taking that away exactly, take

2052
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:36,599
Speaker 8: away from prospect evaluation, you know what I mean?

2053
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 4: It really hurts, Yeah, it does, it doesn't.

2054
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 5: And and then what I was thinking I mentioned.

2055
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 3: Jeff Mathis for example, guys like that, like you're really.

2056
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:49,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, but but or Survelli when he was when he

2057
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:51,920
Speaker 5: was active. The thing is that as long as they

2058
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 5: keep that in in the in in the mayors, but

2059
01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:56,840
Speaker 5: not in the minors, then you have a problem because

2060
01:36:56,840 --> 01:37:00,439
Speaker 5: when they they call up those guys and and they

2061
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:03,120
Speaker 5: come up and then they don't know how to frame

2062
01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:07,720
Speaker 5: because they lost it for years or I don't know

2063
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:12,559
Speaker 5: how many times. But once they lose that and they

2064
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:14,519
Speaker 5: come up to a big bigs and we evaluate them

2065
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 5: or teams evaluate them, or when I say we, I

2066
01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:21,360
Speaker 5: mean writers or or media people like no, he's not

2067
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 5: good because he's not a good framer. Then he's like, well, yeah,

2068
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 5: but you told the guy not to do it because

2069
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 5: it doesn't matter or it didn't matter in the miners,

2070
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:31,920
Speaker 5: and now you want the guy to frame. I mean,

2071
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 5: what the hell you know?

2072
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:38,960
Speaker 8: Danny like would like, let's say these rules or this

2073
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 8: rule with robot Empires was in effect back in what

2074
01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:45,560
Speaker 8: was it, twenty seventeen?

2075
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 4: I think when the Marlins drafted Will Bamfield.

2076
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:53,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I think would the Marlins have drafted Will

2077
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 8: Bamfield that high?

2078
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:57,360
Speaker 5: Maybe not definitely?

2079
01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 4: Not right?

2080
01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:00,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, or at least were they were not going to

2081
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 5: to overpay for him, right?

2082
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:06,559
Speaker 8: They overpaid so much in the dynamic of that position,

2083
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 8: Like how many like I think it's the baseball player

2084
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:15,320
Speaker 8: who's gonna want to commit to playing that position. Not

2085
01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:17,680
Speaker 8: a lot of people, right, So well, and.

2086
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:19,559
Speaker 5: And that's and that's the problem we have we see

2087
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:21,839
Speaker 5: now with with with the catching position. I mean, it's

2088
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 5: it's incredible to see how you know, how many catchers

2089
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:30,800
Speaker 5: get get fractured or its signed on the on the

2090
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:34,720
Speaker 5: international planning period how many did the Martin sign like

2091
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 5: pure catchers? How many? Not more than five for sure? Yeah,

2092
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:43,559
Speaker 5: they signed almost forty players and they're going to keep

2093
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 5: signing players from here until January of next year or

2094
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:53,800
Speaker 5: December and and and I remember asking this to Adrian Lorenzo,

2095
01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:56,719
Speaker 5: and Adrian told me like, yeah, because there aren't many

2096
01:38:56,720 --> 01:39:00,400
Speaker 5: catchers in the on the system, and what we rather

2097
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 5: do is signed players corner infielders for example, that might

2098
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 5: be able to become conchers in the future, in the future.

2099
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:12,120
Speaker 5: And I and I think.

2100
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 4: That's you see that with that with.

2101
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:19,360
Speaker 5: Right, and that's and and that's what's gonna happen now.

2102
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:22,000
Speaker 5: But who who wants to be a catcher in these days? Nobody?

2103
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, I think it's more of a position that

2104
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 8: you're going to see guys, you know, moved to like

2105
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 8: as you see, rather than that guys are drafted as

2106
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:36,880
Speaker 8: I mean, I'm Joe Mac maybe maybe the one last

2107
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:38,960
Speaker 8: caveat to that, I think Joe Mac could.

2108
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:39,320
Speaker 5: Be very good.

2109
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:42,360
Speaker 8: You know, all of his tools, we all know them.

2110
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:44,640
Speaker 8: I don't have to tell you guys, but you know

2111
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:51,840
Speaker 8: it's it's it's this this move towards towards robot MS

2112
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:54,080
Speaker 8: I'm not against it. I'm not against it, but it

2113
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:59,879
Speaker 8: weakens that position even more. Like that position is framing, receiving.

2114
01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 8: That's that's what you're supposed to do as a catcher.

2115
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:04,719
Speaker 8: You're taught that before hitting, and you got that.

2116
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:08,320
Speaker 5: That's well, that's that's basically the essence of that position.

2117
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:11,759
Speaker 4: And exactly you're taking that away.

2118
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 5: So I don't like it. I've never liked you know,

2119
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:20,880
Speaker 5: the rob bombs. I know that now we we have

2120
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:26,880
Speaker 5: too much technology. I will say, shows you, oh yeah,

2121
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 5: I mean this pitch was outside or was inside and

2122
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:34,799
Speaker 5: it was called a ball. And then you know, obviously

2123
01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:38,920
Speaker 5: we see like horrible mistakes from from the umpires, just

2124
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 5: see them from from shortstops and outfielders and pitchers and catchers.

2125
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:46,280
Speaker 5: I mean, because that's part of life. And and the

2126
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:50,320
Speaker 5: thing is that I don't think umpires are getting worse.

2127
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:53,400
Speaker 5: I just think that we have more technology and more

2128
01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:56,280
Speaker 5: ways to see if they're failing or not. But what

2129
01:40:56,439 --> 01:41:01,240
Speaker 5: happens if you take if you take away that, you know,

2130
01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:04,880
Speaker 5: the little box that you see on TV or the

2131
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:09,000
Speaker 5: game day on MLV dot com, people will forget about

2132
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 5: it because you will always have to doubt the thing

2133
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 5: is that the TV will always show you the same strikes,

2134
01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:17,519
Speaker 5: but you cannot have the same striketion for wholesale too,

2135
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:20,920
Speaker 5: and and Aaron judge because they're not the same height. Yeah,

2136
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:27,920
Speaker 5: it's going to change their perspective. But I honestly I

2137
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:30,519
Speaker 5: don't agree. I don't like it, and I think it's

2138
01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 5: a real shame.

2139
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:31,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2140
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:34,639
Speaker 8: The thing is, the thing is you're taking the ability

2141
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:37,360
Speaker 8: for a catcher more so than offense, because as we

2142
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:40,800
Speaker 8: all know, catchers are not normally normally other than the

2143
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:44,280
Speaker 8: extreme cases catchers, they don't change the game offensively.

2144
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:45,559
Speaker 4: They change the game on defense.

2145
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:48,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, this takes away the ability for the catcher to

2146
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:49,320
Speaker 8: change the game.

2147
01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:50,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, the ability.

2148
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 8: It takes away the ability is still act, you know.

2149
01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:57,559
Speaker 8: And in that aspect it definitely sucks. And the human

2150
01:41:57,600 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 8: element is as much as that's a I get the

2151
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:04,160
Speaker 8: boomer or whatever that is out fosball by this rule,

2152
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:09,720
Speaker 8: and it really sucks. So yeah, I mean, first and

2153
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:13,040
Speaker 8: for offense, their top defense, and that's that's their job.

2154
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 4: Their job is to black pitches.

2155
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:18,799
Speaker 8: Isn't still strikes And if that's not around for the position,

2156
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:20,200
Speaker 8: nobody's gonna want to have it.

2157
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:23,120
Speaker 4: So it's but it is what it is.

2158
01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:28,640
Speaker 5: I guess yeah, all right, guys, I personally got I

2159
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:33,200
Speaker 5: gotta go over some plush. All right, see you guys Wednesday.

2160
01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:35,639
Speaker 5: I think everyone's participating again.

2161
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:39,320
Speaker 12: I will be on.

2162
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:41,320
Speaker 5: Kevin.

2163
01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:42,840
Speaker 4: No, I will not.

2164
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:45,360
Speaker 1: Be on, but I'll see you on Friday. It's a

2165
01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 1: huge competitor.

2166
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:47,679
Speaker 5: Kevin is not gonna be there.

2167
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:51,800
Speaker 1: No, it feels good, it feels good winning.

2168
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:54,000
Speaker 5: Now Kevin at least has to join, like to be

2169
01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:55,599
Speaker 5: on the Peanut Gallery.

2170
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:58,800
Speaker 1: Like no, no, no, I actually have something that I

2171
01:42:58,840 --> 01:42:59,760
Speaker 1: can't go at all.

2172
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 4: Oh, I'll see.

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Speaker 5: I'm living and Aaron is coming up. I mean this

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Speaker 5: is this is a sugar.

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Speaker 1: I saw him join and I was like, oh, I

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Speaker 1: got to get him on.

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Speaker 3: Why not?

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Speaker 5: Aaron?

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Speaker 4: Hello, Daniel, you can't leave now.

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Speaker 1: The party just started.

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Speaker 5: I mean yeah, I know, I know it just started.

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01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 5: But I'm gonna have like real problems with my girlfriend

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Speaker 5: if I don't go now. I say, hi, please, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I will, I will. I love you, guys, including Aaron.

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Speaker 12: Thanks were real quick, Daniel. We were due for for

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01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:40,400
Speaker 12: a catch up session one of these days. So it's

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01:43:41,240 --> 01:43:44,400
Speaker 12: trying to link up phone call something. I haven't talked

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Speaker 12: to you in a minute, enjoy, enjoy your girlfriend enjoyed

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Speaker 12: the Sunday night.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, man, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: See you guys.

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Speaker 1: Hey, oh now wait a ram on here we can

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Speaker 1: talk about aspect.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm going for anything. I'm getting for anything. I

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Speaker 12: told you guys, I've been like super it's like neck

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Speaker 12: deep in prospect stuff. Not that I kind of always am,

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Speaker 12: but U with the top one hundred updates, so a

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Speaker 12: lot like hours and hours every day. That's one of

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Speaker 12: the good stober linings of the lockout is I've had

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Speaker 12: a little bit more time for college baseball and for

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Speaker 12: the top one hundred West.

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Speaker 10: So I'm really excited to Okay, well, since you brought

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01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:30,400
Speaker 10: it up really quick, Nick Lodolo or as Lacy.

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Speaker 12: Oh god, yeah, I don't think it's necessarily close there

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Speaker 12: at all.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's what I thought. I just wanted to make sure, I.

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Speaker 12: Mean late at least he's got crazy stuff all the

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01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:46,880
Speaker 12: guys in the mind I know, but you tell you that,

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Speaker 12: But I mean he threw the fastball seventy five percent

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01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:53,360
Speaker 12: of the time, his commands not there some makeup questions.

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01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:56,200
Speaker 12: He didn't get out of high a as a college

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01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:59,320
Speaker 12: arm that was supposed to be polished. The Marlins were

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01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:02,000
Speaker 12: brilliant on that one. I mean they got they got

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01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:04,599
Speaker 12: spooked by something. I know the makeup was part of it.

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01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:06,679
Speaker 12: I'm sure it wasn't the whole thing, because it hasn't

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01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:09,880
Speaker 12: always deterred the Marlins. But whatever they were spooked by,

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01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:12,160
Speaker 12: I mean they were right. Uh that doesn't mean that

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01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:13,960
Speaker 12: that's That's not to say Lacey will for sure be

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01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:14,720
Speaker 12: a failure, but.

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Speaker 1: I think it's almost it's looking pretty good for Max Meyer.

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Speaker 4: Verse.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say that's something that we don't need

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01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:23,160
Speaker 3: Miami enough credit.

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Speaker 10: Obviously, you know, neither of them have made their debuts,

2225
01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:27,400
Speaker 10: but for Miami, they like sort of really shocked us

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01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:29,160
Speaker 10: all and go Max Meyer. They were really like to

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01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:30,840
Speaker 10: Lacy for a long time part of that trial.

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Speaker 4: I was floored. It was certain. Maybe maybe like two

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Speaker 4: hours before I was.

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Speaker 12: I got a text from a buddy who works in

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01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 12: the scouting department for uh an Al team, but I

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01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:46,840
Speaker 12: guess you know, small circles there, and he was like,

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01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:49,439
Speaker 12: I keep hearing more about Max Meyer at three, Like

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01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:51,160
Speaker 12: more I keep hearing the Marlins tied to Meyer.

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Speaker 4: I was like, get out of here, like whatever. And

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01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:56,360
Speaker 4: when it happened. Of course, he was the first person

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01:45:56,360 --> 01:45:56,639
Speaker 4: I text.

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01:45:56,720 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 12: I was like, what, you know, that's crazy what I

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01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:01,880
Speaker 12: will say to the iron And it is kind of

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Speaker 12: the It goes against every traditional thought right which I love,

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01:46:07,280 --> 01:46:11,360
Speaker 12: which is, you know, big tall lefty or short right.

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01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:16,360
Speaker 12: Like every single old school scout on the planet is

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01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:16,840
Speaker 12: taking the.

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01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:17,599
Speaker 4: Big tall lefty.

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Speaker 12: So it was funny to see the Marlins be forward thinking.

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01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:21,800
Speaker 12: They're but then on you know, we know, on on

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01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:25,000
Speaker 12: the offensive side of things, a little bit archaic, but yeah,

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01:46:25,240 --> 01:46:26,599
Speaker 12: really really good decision there.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, all right, Eli's personal accounting to you, so you

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Speaker 1: know he's going I want to ask her on six

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Speaker 1: to him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say talk about six.

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01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:41,799
Speaker 14: So yeah, I was walking my dog for the last

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Speaker 14: thirty five minutes.

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Speaker 3: I was just listening from the other account.

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Speaker 14: I hop on this one when I have something to say.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 14: I missed my window a little bit because right before

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01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:53,639
Speaker 14: I'm Danny signed off, I wanted to bring up a point.

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01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:57,880
Speaker 14: They were talking about the automatic ball strike zone coming yeah,

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01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:02,320
Speaker 14: coming soon, and owning the impact they'll have on catchers,

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01:47:02,360 --> 01:47:04,240
Speaker 14: and I'm kind of going the other way, like that's

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01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:07,600
Speaker 14: taking one small element of catching off their plates. Like

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01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:12,160
Speaker 14: one reason why we're seeing like so few competent catchers

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01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:15,160
Speaker 14: is because all the responsibilities they have, that's fair. If

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01:47:15,160 --> 01:47:17,640
Speaker 14: you make them their job a little bit easier on

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01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:21,120
Speaker 14: the defensive side, I think becomes more appealing to want

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01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:25,040
Speaker 14: to be a catcher. There's not as much overwhelming duties

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01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:28,839
Speaker 14: on your plate. And so I was kind of surprised

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01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:32,320
Speaker 14: by the take that what Alex and Danny had about

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01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 14: that about that being such a BIGGI such a big

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01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:38,400
Speaker 14: Like there's other conversations you can have about the impact

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01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 14: it has on the game, but in terms of actually

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01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:45,280
Speaker 14: being positive for catchers and actually making the job more appealing,

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01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 14: I think that's kind of the objective part of it.

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Speaker 4: The irony, the irony in that is real quick.

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Speaker 12: Sorry, Alex, I was just saying ironically, I just interviewed

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01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 12: on the call up one of my buddies from South

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01:47:57,200 --> 01:48:01,040
Speaker 12: Florida that was a catcher, just a grinder, like defensive

2280
01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:03,240
Speaker 12: first dude went to Samford. He's in the Angels Org

2281
01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:06,960
Speaker 12: now Anthony mulroan, and he's like his glove is his carrying,

2282
01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:08,720
Speaker 12: like is going to carry him all the way. He

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01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:11,760
Speaker 12: was read Detmer's personal catcher like caught every single one

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01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:14,439
Speaker 12: of Detmer starts in double A last year, and like

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01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:17,800
Speaker 12: that's something that he's kind of hinging his career on,

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01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:20,160
Speaker 12: Like he's hoping that there is no automaty strike zone

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01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:22,240
Speaker 12: because of how much the framing helps him. Yeah, so

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01:48:22,280 --> 01:48:24,320
Speaker 12: from that, I saw that angle of it for those

2289
01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:26,559
Speaker 12: defensive catchers and things like that. But yeah, I mean

2290
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:28,840
Speaker 12: in terms of bringing more offense to the game and

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01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:32,240
Speaker 12: in terms of catchers having more offensive minded catchers being

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01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:36,200
Speaker 12: able to succeed, I think Eli does bring up a

2293
01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:39,240
Speaker 12: really good point, and just I love the nuance of it,

2294
01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:41,640
Speaker 12: though I love the nuance of stealing strike and art.

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01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:43,720
Speaker 4: So I go both ways on that.

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Speaker 12: I don't have a strong opinion one way or another,

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01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:47,160
Speaker 12: but I think that's a great point by Eli.

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01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:50,479
Speaker 8: I mean, I think his point is fair, but let's

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01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:52,479
Speaker 8: let's let's let's talk about it.

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01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:54,160
Speaker 4: I mean, maybe the dynamic will change.

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Speaker 8: Maybe it will be that, you know, ten years from

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01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:59,320
Speaker 8: now that you know catchers focus more on offense than

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01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:02,320
Speaker 8: defense because of this rule, And that's totally fair. That's

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01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:07,520
Speaker 8: totally fair for Eli's point. But how many catchers nowadays

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01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:12,600
Speaker 8: hinge hinge their careers and their ability to make it

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01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:17,519
Speaker 8: into a major league system. Will Banfield, Joe Mack. You

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01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:21,719
Speaker 8: talk about many with from Marlins on their defensive ability

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01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:25,320
Speaker 8: and other offensive ability, and you know that goes away,

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01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:28,679
Speaker 8: that goes away from the catcher position if you erase

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01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:32,559
Speaker 8: the ability to call games and steal strikes and in

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01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:36,320
Speaker 8: the collegiate system right now, and I hate this, I

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01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:40,840
Speaker 8: really hate it. It's that these these pitchers are wearing

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01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 8: these armbands with like this automated system where they're where

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01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:48,519
Speaker 8: they're you know, they're they're fed the pitch brow from

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01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:49,479
Speaker 8: the dougouts, the coach.

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Speaker 4: I hate that.

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Speaker 8: I know that's probably been around for a while that

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01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:55,640
Speaker 8: you know, dugouts call call pitches uh in college and

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01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 8: I understand that, but I hate that, and that just

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01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:01,920
Speaker 8: takes away from from the ability to be a true

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Speaker 8: defensive catcher. And I really think that that it is

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Speaker 8: that's the art of being a catcher, you know, that's

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Speaker 8: the art of being a defensive catcher.

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Speaker 4: That's the art of being a defensive player. And you know,

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Speaker 4: if a change.

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Speaker 8: Is in the future, maybe a guy like you know,

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01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:22,200
Speaker 8: not the greatest offensive hitting catcher will but the amongst

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01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:25,360
Speaker 8: the greatest defensive catchers in terms of calling games and

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Speaker 8: throwing guys out. That will change, and that that's that's

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Speaker 8: depressing because a lot of guys have made their careers

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Speaker 8: that way.

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01:50:32,080 --> 01:50:35,400
Speaker 4: So it's it's it's it's interesting dynamic.

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01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:38,080
Speaker 8: It will it will definitely change the game for sure,

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01:50:38,439 --> 01:50:41,240
Speaker 8: especially if we get robo amps in addition to that.

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01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:45,040
Speaker 8: So yeah, I mean, it's it's really interesting. But yeah,

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Speaker 8: the art of being a catcher is a true art,

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Speaker 8: and if it changes at all, it's it's a it's

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01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:57,360
Speaker 8: a it's a difference in the dynamic of of becoming

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Speaker 8: a baseball catcher. And like I said before, you know,

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01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:03,519
Speaker 8: if that does change, you know how many true catchers

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01:51:03,520 --> 01:51:06,839
Speaker 8: are going to be drafted, signed and held in high regard,

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01:51:06,960 --> 01:51:09,040
Speaker 8: So that that that would be where I'm at on it.

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01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:12,719
Speaker 8: But I understand that there's a difference of opinion. Alrong.

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Speaker 1: I'm very glad that you put Max Simier's your number

2345
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:17,200
Speaker 1: one prospect because we both agree on that.

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01:51:17,439 --> 01:51:19,240
Speaker 4: Really number one.

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01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:22,000
Speaker 1: That number one he puts he didn't have Eddie and

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01:51:22,040 --> 01:51:25,240
Speaker 1: his rankings because he already made the debut, but he

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01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:26,519
Speaker 1: has number.

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01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:27,720
Speaker 4: One and high off.

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Speaker 5: You just joined.

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Speaker 3: What's up.

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01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:35,880
Speaker 4: Presenter? Sorry, fair enough.

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Speaker 3: Okay, good. I was gonna say, I was like, I

2355
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Speaker 3: was interesting.

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01:51:41,080 --> 01:51:42,400
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna I have to.

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01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:44,720
Speaker 1: Update as well. I think I'm gonna put Eddie. I mean,

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01:51:45,160 --> 01:51:45,960
Speaker 1: you're a number.

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Speaker 3: One, but we'll see way to follow the crowd.

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Speaker 1: Bro, I think that's what everyone's doing now, though they're

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01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:53,879
Speaker 1: they're ranking your extremely.

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Speaker 10: I still have Edward as number one. But it's a

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01:51:58,360 --> 01:52:04,960
Speaker 10: it's it's you can't go on hi, Kyle, some Jeopardy?

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01:52:05,720 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 1: Is your WiFi better than it was on Jeopardy last night?

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01:52:09,400 --> 01:52:11,639
Speaker 7: I actually got to fixed last week. But thank you,

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01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:13,840
Speaker 7: I could.

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01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:16,439
Speaker 1: Come back and ridding yourself at some point.

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01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:19,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, what are you guys talking about? Who just asked me? Kevin?

2369
01:52:19,880 --> 01:52:21,360
Speaker 7: You just asked me to be a speaker? What are

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01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:22,080
Speaker 7: we talking about?

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01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:24,800
Speaker 9: Sunday at like ten oh five says this is like

2372
01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:27,440
Speaker 9: the old Late Night with the Fish.

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01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:31,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, bro, give us your h Kyle, give us your

2374
01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:36,120
Speaker 8: your best Light Night with the Fish segment.

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Speaker 3: Right here, go.

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01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:42,679
Speaker 9: Ahead, my best Late Night with the Fish segment. Uh,

2377
01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:44,960
Speaker 9: put me on the spot. You want to team me

2378
01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:46,920
Speaker 9: up with something. I don't really have many thoughts. I'm

2379
01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:50,479
Speaker 9: actually I'm actually sitting here watching I assume what I'm

2380
01:52:50,479 --> 01:52:52,640
Speaker 9: watching is live. I could be a total idiot and

2381
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:54,720
Speaker 9: it could be three days old, but I'm watching l

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01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:56,760
Speaker 9: s U versus Baylor. They're in the bottom of the

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01:52:56,800 --> 01:52:59,200
Speaker 9: third inning at Minute Made Park, and somebody confirm this

2384
01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:02,600
Speaker 9: is live or not to me let me check. I

2385
01:53:02,600 --> 01:53:04,719
Speaker 9: mean it was live in the bottom right hand corner.

2386
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:07,200
Speaker 9: I'm going to assume this is a live college game.

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01:53:07,040 --> 01:53:10,080
Speaker 4: But it is, and it's been awesome. It's been so cool.

2388
01:53:10,160 --> 01:53:13,760
Speaker 9: There's this kid pitching for LSU. He's as big as

2389
01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:16,240
Speaker 9: he is wide, and he's an absolute house and he

2390
01:53:16,439 --> 01:53:22,599
Speaker 9: is awesome. LSU's crazy MLB network, So I'm number thirty

2391
01:53:22,640 --> 01:53:25,439
Speaker 9: eight for LSU. He's like a few fries short of

2392
01:53:25,479 --> 01:53:28,120
Speaker 9: three hundred pounds and he's just throwing gas.

2393
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:29,120
Speaker 4: Sugar. Dude.

2394
01:53:29,120 --> 01:53:31,840
Speaker 10: They're not on YouTube TV and or are they?

2395
01:53:32,120 --> 01:53:33,400
Speaker 3: And will be never go on YouTube TV?

2396
01:53:33,800 --> 01:53:34,120
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2397
01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:35,760
Speaker 3: Oh bet sure.

2398
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:39,840
Speaker 7: This kid is awesome.

2399
01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:42,840
Speaker 4: Guaranteed.

2400
01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:46,439
Speaker 12: It's like charcoal at LSU. So that's kind of cool

2401
01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:48,080
Speaker 12: that that's team is unbelievable.

2402
01:53:50,439 --> 01:53:53,000
Speaker 4: As as Kyle Man, I'm so glad that there's more

2403
01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:53,280
Speaker 4: of it.

2404
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:57,599
Speaker 8: I mean, as heartbroken as I bring training is now,

2405
01:53:57,640 --> 01:53:59,599
Speaker 8: I'm glad that there's more of a focus on collegiate

2406
01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:02,360
Speaker 8: baseball because it definitely deserves it, and I really love

2407
01:54:02,439 --> 01:54:03,240
Speaker 8: college baseball.

2408
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:08,880
Speaker 1: I just got into it, so I mean, you're.

2409
01:54:08,720 --> 01:54:12,760
Speaker 10: Not supposed to say who because I'm a band. They

2410
01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:14,639
Speaker 10: got pitched, Oh my god, they got pitching for LSU.

2411
01:54:16,840 --> 01:54:20,639
Speaker 10: They guys did about holy shit.

2412
01:54:21,240 --> 01:54:23,439
Speaker 9: I don't know who played at Minute Made Park last night,

2413
01:54:23,479 --> 01:54:25,400
Speaker 9: but I saw there was like thirty thousand people there.

2414
01:54:25,640 --> 01:54:27,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I forget who it was. It was like twenty

2415
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:29,080
Speaker 3: seven thousand. It's crazy.

2416
01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:32,120
Speaker 8: I want baseball, man, people want baseball. I mean, that's

2417
01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:35,080
Speaker 8: proof like people want to happen. So, I mean it

2418
01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:36,640
Speaker 8: was LSU Texas.

2419
01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:40,120
Speaker 12: It was like twenty five thousand, which is just twenty

2420
01:54:40,160 --> 01:54:42,600
Speaker 12: beyond beyond awesome.

2421
01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:44,480
Speaker 3: I love to see that.

2422
01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:47,600
Speaker 9: I've watched a bunch of the college games so far

2423
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:50,080
Speaker 9: this spring, and I usually do until we get rolling

2424
01:54:50,160 --> 01:54:52,839
Speaker 9: with spring training. But obviously we understand what's going on there.

2425
01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:55,760
Speaker 9: But the pace of the game has been so much

2426
01:54:55,800 --> 01:54:58,320
Speaker 9: better now that they've done the Mound visit deal. I

2427
01:54:58,360 --> 01:55:00,839
Speaker 9: did two of the Canes and Gators game over the weekend,

2428
01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:03,560
Speaker 9: and they did two The two games I did for

2429
01:55:03,600 --> 01:55:06,200
Speaker 9: ACC Network, they did in under three hours each.

2430
01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:07,200
Speaker 7: It was so enjoyable.

2431
01:55:07,280 --> 01:55:11,160
Speaker 12: Wow, that's actually that's actually amazing because the problem, the

2432
01:55:11,200 --> 01:55:14,280
Speaker 12: big difference between college two and the miners especially is

2433
01:55:14,280 --> 01:55:18,240
Speaker 12: that like they pick off a ton, the miners, you

2434
01:55:18,240 --> 01:55:20,120
Speaker 12: won't see a pickoff the second base for three months.

2435
01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:23,040
Speaker 12: So there's just all those different things. But yeah, with

2436
01:55:23,080 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 12: the pace of play better. That was the big thing

2437
01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 12: with college you were having these five hour games where

2438
01:55:27,280 --> 01:55:29,440
Speaker 12: it's just it's so hard.

2439
01:55:29,200 --> 01:55:31,600
Speaker 4: To market that. So that's a great point. I love

2440
01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:31,920
Speaker 4: seeing that.

2441
01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:34,720
Speaker 9: Yeah, they dropped the mound visit thing, you know, so

2442
01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:37,720
Speaker 9: that you know, I understand and I really do enjoy

2443
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:40,920
Speaker 9: college baseball. I understand the premium on every game. These

2444
01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:43,360
Speaker 9: guys manage it like it's Game seven of the World Series.

2445
01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:46,160
Speaker 9: When you're playing fifty games, you really can't just toss

2446
01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:47,600
Speaker 9: one away in the middle of the week on the

2447
01:55:47,640 --> 01:55:49,400
Speaker 9: Thursday at one o'clock in the afternoon.

2448
01:55:49,600 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 7: But games were taking.

2449
01:55:50,520 --> 01:55:52,440
Speaker 9: Four four and a half hours in conference play and

2450
01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:53,480
Speaker 9: it was unlatchable.

2451
01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:58,360
Speaker 12: Well, and those things in their ears, those things, those

2452
01:55:58,440 --> 01:56:01,040
Speaker 12: do really the calls come in, you know with.

2453
01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:08,600
Speaker 4: These play it really does.

2454
01:56:08,680 --> 01:56:11,160
Speaker 12: I know people have mixed feelings about it, but you know,

2455
01:56:11,400 --> 01:56:14,240
Speaker 12: you say the whole time of shaking off signs, all that,

2456
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:16,720
Speaker 12: all that whole show, and just everybody is on the

2457
01:56:16,760 --> 01:56:20,880
Speaker 12: same page. They go and I'm seeing you if you

2458
01:56:20,920 --> 01:56:24,480
Speaker 12: have Miami and today when the bomb I've never seen

2459
01:56:25,960 --> 01:56:28,840
Speaker 12: he had the volumes ready to get already knew before

2460
01:56:28,960 --> 01:56:34,440
Speaker 12: the volume time. Let me let me ask you guys

2461
01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:34,920
Speaker 12: a question.

2462
01:56:35,160 --> 01:56:38,080
Speaker 8: You you are Rom and Kyle and Specific and maybe

2463
01:56:38,080 --> 01:56:44,400
Speaker 8: Isaac as well. You know this dynamic of collegiate players

2464
01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:47,400
Speaker 8: and you'll see collegiate players from that are standouts this

2465
01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:51,680
Speaker 8: year to go to wood bad summer leagues? What does

2466
01:56:51,720 --> 01:56:56,000
Speaker 8: that do for a project in terms of their experience?

2467
01:56:56,600 --> 01:57:00,520
Speaker 8: And then how much do major league organizations look at that,

2468
01:57:00,840 --> 01:57:03,840
Speaker 8: especially if they have the success at those rankings?

2469
01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:05,080
Speaker 4: How much does that do?

2470
01:57:05,200 --> 01:57:07,560
Speaker 8: And it's always it's been always been something I'm interested in,

2471
01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:09,800
Speaker 8: but I want to ask you guys, how much does

2472
01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:12,919
Speaker 8: that do for prospect cedigree, draft cedigree?

2473
01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:16,400
Speaker 3: And like, how much does that do for player.

2474
01:57:20,040 --> 01:57:23,880
Speaker 12: I can jump on that one first, Christian, because that

2475
01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:26,480
Speaker 12: was something I gained a lot more perspective on when

2476
01:57:26,520 --> 01:57:28,760
Speaker 12: I broadcasted in the Cape that one summer which was

2477
01:57:28,880 --> 01:57:31,600
Speaker 12: you know, the still probably my favorite summer of my life.

2478
01:57:31,640 --> 01:57:33,959
Speaker 4: I mean, if if anyone ever gets a chance.

2479
01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:36,120
Speaker 12: To go to the Cape Cod League when there's baseball

2480
01:57:36,160 --> 01:57:39,160
Speaker 12: being played, I bet you to do it because it'll

2481
01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:41,120
Speaker 12: give you a new like love for baseball.

2482
01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:46,600
Speaker 4: It's just so much fun. But anyways, I think for phenomenal.

2483
01:57:48,720 --> 01:57:52,720
Speaker 12: I think about it probably, you know, once every couple

2484
01:57:52,720 --> 01:57:54,680
Speaker 12: of days, and I'm going to try and get out

2485
01:57:54,680 --> 01:57:56,880
Speaker 12: there now this year. It's just it's so it's so pure.

2486
01:57:56,920 --> 01:58:00,320
Speaker 12: It's like a slice of baseball. Haven't But I think

2487
01:58:00,360 --> 01:58:03,680
Speaker 12: with the summer collegiate leagues, I really do feel like

2488
01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:07,640
Speaker 12: only the Cape significantly matters, you know. I I look

2489
01:58:07,640 --> 01:58:09,360
Speaker 12: at everything else, Like a guy performs well in the

2490
01:58:09,360 --> 01:58:11,920
Speaker 12: north Woods League, that's good. It helps, But I don't

2491
01:58:11,960 --> 01:58:14,360
Speaker 12: think that's that's sending anybody to day one. I don't

2492
01:58:14,360 --> 01:58:17,120
Speaker 12: think it's really a game changer because you look at

2493
01:58:17,120 --> 01:58:19,920
Speaker 12: the north Woods League. There's really good players in there,

2494
01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:21,760
Speaker 12: and then there are players that are that are just

2495
01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:25,040
Speaker 12: have no business being there. There's no there's no balance

2496
01:58:25,600 --> 01:58:28,520
Speaker 12: the Cape. It's like you're facing a dude every single day.

2497
01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:32,560
Speaker 12: And I think that just built and challenge allows and

2498
01:58:32,600 --> 01:58:35,120
Speaker 12: of course the wood bat though, but really allows teams

2499
01:58:35,160 --> 01:58:37,240
Speaker 12: to to feel good in.

2500
01:58:37,200 --> 01:58:40,480
Speaker 4: About what they see out there. And I think the Cape.

2501
01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:46,000
Speaker 12: Different designation in terms of draft status and draft stock.

2502
01:58:46,160 --> 01:58:47,640
Speaker 12: I don't think any other league is going to do

2503
01:58:47,680 --> 01:58:48,200
Speaker 12: that for you.

2504
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:59,120
Speaker 4: It's performing just get your I think that's atways just my.

2505
01:59:03,600 --> 01:59:08,040
Speaker 9: Is Manian tern that beat or his his.

2506
01:59:06,920 --> 01:59:09,600
Speaker 4: His you're good. Oh I was like, oh my god.

2507
01:59:09,600 --> 01:59:14,120
Speaker 8: I really was being you're coming you're coming into I

2508
01:59:14,280 --> 01:59:15,760
Speaker 8: heard him, I heard everything he said.

2509
01:59:15,800 --> 01:59:18,280
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean that's definitely insight.

2510
01:59:18,400 --> 01:59:22,080
Speaker 8: I mean what a fun like when I'm when I'm

2511
01:59:22,120 --> 01:59:26,320
Speaker 8: researching prospects and researching these guys that especially new draftees

2512
01:59:26,680 --> 01:59:30,480
Speaker 8: or newcomers, and I'm like, or any team and I'm like, okay,

2513
01:59:30,480 --> 01:59:32,200
Speaker 8: well they had a showing in the Wood Bad League

2514
01:59:32,240 --> 01:59:34,000
Speaker 8: with it and it was decent, So that I guess

2515
01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:37,000
Speaker 8: that might add on, you know the fact that and

2516
01:59:37,320 --> 01:59:40,800
Speaker 8: you know, the Cape Cod League honestly is as prom said,

2517
01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:42,440
Speaker 8: like like the heir apparent.

2518
01:59:42,520 --> 01:59:43,160
Speaker 4: You know, that's like.

2519
01:59:43,160 --> 01:59:45,280
Speaker 8: The the one you want to be in and you

2520
01:59:45,320 --> 01:59:47,920
Speaker 8: want to show well in. But these other leagues like

2521
01:59:47,960 --> 01:59:52,080
Speaker 8: Northwoods League, you know, and other leagues like that, it's like,

2522
01:59:52,280 --> 01:59:57,080
Speaker 8: you know, I didn't really really it was. So when

2523
01:59:57,080 --> 01:59:59,760
Speaker 8: Aram says that it's like, you know, it kind of

2524
02:00:00,120 --> 02:00:01,920
Speaker 8: it teaches me a little bit that, like, you know,

2525
02:00:01,960 --> 02:00:04,200
Speaker 8: even though it's would bad and even though it's you know,

2526
02:00:04,440 --> 02:00:07,240
Speaker 8: you know, they're going against you know, these collegiate players

2527
02:00:07,240 --> 02:00:10,120
Speaker 8: that are supposed to be really good in their areas

2528
02:00:10,280 --> 02:00:13,280
Speaker 8: like the wood Back or the Cape, Hobab League is

2529
02:00:13,280 --> 02:00:14,800
Speaker 8: where you want to be. So yeah, I mean I

2530
02:00:14,920 --> 02:00:18,880
Speaker 8: understand that. So it's just an interesting dynamic with collegiate baseball.

2531
02:00:18,960 --> 02:00:20,760
Speaker 8: It must be so hard to scout. I would not

2532
02:00:20,840 --> 02:00:22,560
Speaker 8: want to be a collegiate scout because it must be

2533
02:00:22,600 --> 02:00:23,600
Speaker 8: so freaking hard.

2534
02:00:23,880 --> 02:00:26,560
Speaker 12: Oh it's I can actually give you a perfect example.

2535
02:00:26,600 --> 02:00:28,960
Speaker 12: Do I sound better now? I jumped on my WiFi.

2536
02:00:29,400 --> 02:00:33,080
Speaker 12: So a perfect example was when I was in the Cape,

2537
02:00:34,440 --> 02:00:38,520
Speaker 12: I shared a host family with this guy Joe Nahas

2538
02:00:38,800 --> 02:00:39,440
Speaker 12: awesome dude.

2539
02:00:39,440 --> 02:00:40,400
Speaker 4: He's now in the Cubboard.

2540
02:00:41,240 --> 02:00:45,680
Speaker 12: So Joe went undrafted as like a junior and went

2541
02:00:45,720 --> 02:00:51,560
Speaker 12: to the Cape and just dominated so like incredibly in

2542
02:00:51,560 --> 02:00:54,520
Speaker 12: the Cape as a pitcher, just blowing ninety five by

2543
02:00:54,640 --> 02:00:59,040
Speaker 12: guys nasty slider that the Cubs approached him about a

2544
02:00:59,120 --> 02:01:01,920
Speaker 12: month after the draft and said we want to sign

2545
02:01:01,960 --> 02:01:03,960
Speaker 12: He was an undrafted free agent for one hundred and

2546
02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:06,040
Speaker 12: twenty five thousand dollars, which is the maximum you can

2547
02:01:06,080 --> 02:01:07,880
Speaker 12: you can give a guy, and it was a month

2548
02:01:07,920 --> 02:01:10,720
Speaker 12: after the draft, and it was just predicated on his

2549
02:01:10,800 --> 02:01:14,360
Speaker 12: Cape Cod League performance. So yeah, I don't I don't like,

2550
02:01:14,640 --> 02:01:16,920
Speaker 12: maybe that could happen somewhere else. I'm working on a

2551
02:01:16,920 --> 02:01:20,240
Speaker 12: story right now about this Reds minor leaguer Vin Tivinelli who.

2552
02:01:21,600 --> 02:01:22,880
Speaker 4: Was signed out of a men's league.

2553
02:01:23,480 --> 02:01:26,440
Speaker 12: So I mean, like, anything can happen, but to get

2554
02:01:26,480 --> 02:01:28,160
Speaker 12: the max, I don't think the Cubs had ever given

2555
02:01:28,160 --> 02:01:31,120
Speaker 12: somebody won twenty five undrafted and they did it for

2556
02:01:31,200 --> 02:01:33,400
Speaker 12: him just because of six good starts in the Cape.

2557
02:01:33,400 --> 02:01:35,960
Speaker 12: So it kind of puts into perspective some if some guys,

2558
02:01:36,040 --> 02:01:37,880
Speaker 12: if some scouts see the right thing, I mean the

2559
02:01:38,120 --> 02:01:39,920
Speaker 12: in the Cape League, they they'll double down.

2560
02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:42,040
Speaker 4: So so let me let me ask you a question.

2561
02:01:42,200 --> 02:01:46,160
Speaker 8: When the Marlins at least somewhat hit on a guy

2562
02:01:46,320 --> 02:01:50,560
Speaker 8: like Trevor Richards, is that just a complete chance, Like

2563
02:01:50,680 --> 02:01:52,360
Speaker 8: is it they just took a chance and worked out

2564
02:01:53,080 --> 02:01:56,560
Speaker 8: or is there something I mean, Trevor Richards didn't like

2565
02:01:56,600 --> 02:01:59,080
Speaker 8: we all know that, but is that just like you

2566
02:01:59,120 --> 02:02:00,800
Speaker 8: take a chance and it worked out or is it

2567
02:02:00,960 --> 02:02:04,280
Speaker 8: just is there something behind that that, hey, he looked

2568
02:02:04,280 --> 02:02:06,280
Speaker 8: good in these what bat leagues.

2569
02:02:07,160 --> 02:02:10,320
Speaker 12: I honestly think a guy like Trevor richards Man, that's

2570
02:02:10,640 --> 02:02:14,040
Speaker 12: those types of scenarios. I really think it's like somebody

2571
02:02:14,120 --> 02:02:17,640
Speaker 12: clued them in, Like somebody knew the right person and said, hey,

2572
02:02:17,680 --> 02:02:19,080
Speaker 12: you got to go check this guy out. Where'd he

2573
02:02:19,120 --> 02:02:20,120
Speaker 12: go again? It was Drury?

2574
02:02:21,440 --> 02:02:24,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Drury University? It was some yeah.

2575
02:02:24,920 --> 02:02:25,080
Speaker 1: Two.

2576
02:02:26,160 --> 02:02:29,440
Speaker 12: I really think for those kind of guys, someone clues

2577
02:02:29,480 --> 02:02:31,120
Speaker 12: them in, they go watch them, and they like what

2578
02:02:31,160 --> 02:02:32,880
Speaker 12: they see. Yeah, it's a little bit of luck at

2579
02:02:32,880 --> 02:02:35,520
Speaker 12: that point. But yeah, I mean, like you don't really

2580
02:02:35,560 --> 02:02:37,440
Speaker 12: get a chance to see him play anywhere other than

2581
02:02:37,480 --> 02:02:39,960
Speaker 12: what was it the Frontier League was where he ended

2582
02:02:40,040 --> 02:02:40,760
Speaker 12: up playing.

2583
02:02:40,480 --> 02:02:42,160
Speaker 4: Outside after Drury.

2584
02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:44,839
Speaker 12: Yeah, So I think in that instance, it's like somebody

2585
02:02:44,880 --> 02:02:46,680
Speaker 12: just says, hey, you got to go check this guy out.

2586
02:02:46,880 --> 02:02:49,960
Speaker 12: Because with this Ben Tippinelli situation, the only reason why

2587
02:02:50,040 --> 02:02:53,240
Speaker 12: why he was found was an old red scout had

2588
02:02:53,280 --> 02:02:55,080
Speaker 12: a friend that played in the men's league that told

2589
02:02:55,160 --> 02:02:58,000
Speaker 12: him there's this crazy kid that was a catcher in

2590
02:02:58,080 --> 02:03:00,360
Speaker 12: D three and now he's up to ninety fivety six

2591
02:03:00,400 --> 02:03:01,920
Speaker 12: on the bump you got to come watch him play.

2592
02:03:02,160 --> 02:03:03,680
Speaker 12: And so he went to this Ben's League game and

2593
02:03:03,760 --> 02:03:06,640
Speaker 12: watched him play and watched him throw ninety six and said,

2594
02:03:06,680 --> 02:03:09,400
Speaker 12: we got to sign this guy. And he was disgusting

2595
02:03:09,440 --> 02:03:11,240
Speaker 12: for the Reds and high a last year as a closer.

2596
02:03:11,320 --> 02:03:13,600
Speaker 12: So I think a lot of it. Usually for those

2597
02:03:13,680 --> 02:03:16,080
Speaker 12: kind of guys, it has to be that just like

2598
02:03:16,280 --> 02:03:17,240
Speaker 12: somebody cooling them in.

2599
02:03:19,120 --> 02:03:19,480
Speaker 3: Gotcha.

2600
02:03:19,640 --> 02:03:21,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's always a dynamic that's been interesting to me.

2601
02:03:21,760 --> 02:03:24,240
Speaker 8: So I figured I would ask, oh, it's so fascinating.

2602
02:03:25,280 --> 02:03:28,040
Speaker 14: Yeah, just to give people some names about Astel Marlin's

2603
02:03:28,080 --> 02:03:31,040
Speaker 14: guys who were in the Cape in recent years, Peyden Verdick,

2604
02:03:31,360 --> 02:03:36,360
Speaker 14: JJ Bolday, Cody morriset, Zach Zubia. Zach Zubia, the guy

2605
02:03:36,400 --> 02:03:38,320
Speaker 14: that they picked at the very ends of last year's draft.

2606
02:03:39,320 --> 02:03:41,120
Speaker 14: I don't know much about him. I said in the

2607
02:03:41,160 --> 02:03:42,560
Speaker 14: fact that he was pretty decent when he was at

2608
02:03:42,560 --> 02:03:44,720
Speaker 14: the Cape a few years ago on the pitching side.

2609
02:03:44,760 --> 02:03:47,440
Speaker 14: Who was Jake Eater was there, Zach mccambley was there,

2610
02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:48,840
Speaker 14: Kyle Nicholas was there.

2611
02:03:49,120 --> 02:03:52,200
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's Nicholas and mccambley are on the team. When

2612
02:03:52,200 --> 02:03:55,040
Speaker 12: I was broadcasting, and it was they were so good.

2613
02:03:55,160 --> 02:03:58,640
Speaker 1: They were so good referens out there.

2614
02:03:58,560 --> 02:04:00,880
Speaker 4: To confirm that name that I brought up to you,

2615
02:04:00,960 --> 02:04:02,040
Speaker 4: Jimmy Yackabonis.

2616
02:04:04,560 --> 02:04:08,879
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, I still don't know about that. Yeah, isically

2617
02:04:09,000 --> 02:04:12,160
Speaker 14: was this guy a source? It says that Jimmy Yakaboni's

2618
02:04:12,280 --> 02:04:14,960
Speaker 14: journeyman reliever, he's not what the Marlins org.

2619
02:04:15,840 --> 02:04:16,240
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2620
02:04:16,960 --> 02:04:18,800
Speaker 3: Uh he what a source?

2621
02:04:20,520 --> 02:04:20,840
Speaker 11: I thought?

2622
02:04:21,120 --> 02:04:22,920
Speaker 10: I mean, I just want you know, this would this

2623
02:04:22,960 --> 02:04:25,040
Speaker 10: isn't a name that it would just like not like,

2624
02:04:25,200 --> 02:04:26,800
Speaker 10: I don't think that would be bullshitted, you know what

2625
02:04:26,800 --> 02:04:29,400
Speaker 10: I mean? But yeah, that I had had a good

2626
02:04:29,440 --> 02:04:32,640
Speaker 10: source that said that this person is is either scheduled

2627
02:04:32,640 --> 02:04:35,240
Speaker 10: too or is already in the Marlins organization.

2628
02:04:36,200 --> 02:04:38,200
Speaker 1: The source is pretty funny, but I'll keep it at that.

2629
02:04:42,000 --> 02:04:42,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't know.

2630
02:04:43,120 --> 02:04:45,280
Speaker 10: Eli said he had heard the name before, So I say,

2631
02:04:45,520 --> 02:04:49,320
Speaker 10: we'll see. And this guy was so I you have

2632
02:04:49,360 --> 02:04:52,520
Speaker 10: any source. I doubled down on the source because I

2633
02:04:52,560 --> 02:04:54,400
Speaker 10: saw that he was with the Mariners. I was like, oh, like,

2634
02:04:54,480 --> 02:04:57,240
Speaker 10: you mean the Seattle And she's like, no, Like, it's

2635
02:04:57,720 --> 02:05:01,960
Speaker 10: it's the Marlins. She guys, it's for sure Martin. He's,

2636
02:05:02,360 --> 02:05:05,040
Speaker 10: according to that person, for sure Marlin's person.

2637
02:05:05,120 --> 02:05:11,440
Speaker 12: Now do you have any insight on Tristan Pompeii and yeah,

2638
02:05:12,680 --> 02:05:13,480
Speaker 12: big league equation.

2639
02:05:15,080 --> 02:05:16,880
Speaker 10: I think he's gonna be competing with Brian de la

2640
02:05:16,920 --> 02:05:19,480
Speaker 10: Cruz for the you know, third or fourth Afia spot.

2641
02:05:20,040 --> 02:05:22,480
Speaker 4: What a source he had long?

2642
02:05:25,720 --> 02:05:29,240
Speaker 3: Oh? Man, Yeah, the first college draft pick on.

2643
02:05:29,400 --> 02:05:32,480
Speaker 4: The regime, tris like.

2644
02:05:34,440 --> 02:05:37,520
Speaker 8: I guess, I guess I could probably say mostly old regime.

2645
02:05:37,560 --> 02:05:40,920
Speaker 8: I don't know about too much about new regime. But man,

2646
02:05:40,960 --> 02:05:44,600
Speaker 8: they had a thing for University of Kentucky prospects.

2647
02:05:44,040 --> 02:05:46,000
Speaker 3: And guy, yeah, jt Riddle was one.

2648
02:05:46,640 --> 02:05:47,120
Speaker 4: Yeah. J.

2649
02:05:47,200 --> 02:05:51,160
Speaker 8: T Riddle was one. Kyle Barrett was another one. Tristan

2650
02:05:51,200 --> 02:05:54,360
Speaker 8: Pompeii was another one. Like they they loved guys out

2651
02:05:54,360 --> 02:05:55,000
Speaker 8: of Kentucky.

2652
02:05:55,080 --> 02:05:59,160
Speaker 4: But man, none of those guys really worked out.

2653
02:05:59,400 --> 02:06:07,680
Speaker 12: Exactly the the irony, the irony too with with them

2654
02:06:07,720 --> 02:06:10,760
Speaker 12: doing you know, making the right pick in terms of

2655
02:06:10,760 --> 02:06:12,680
Speaker 12: of meyer and and the makeup and things like that

2656
02:06:12,800 --> 02:06:15,640
Speaker 12: is kind of disregarded make up a lot, uh and

2657
02:06:15,680 --> 02:06:17,160
Speaker 12: a lot of their other picks, and I think like

2658
02:06:17,200 --> 02:06:20,080
Speaker 12: Pompeii was one where there was definitely some red flags.

2659
02:06:20,320 --> 02:06:20,600
Speaker 14: Uh.

2660
02:06:20,640 --> 02:06:22,920
Speaker 4: And I think we've kind of seen to shine through.

2661
02:06:24,160 --> 02:06:26,160
Speaker 12: I've seen I've seen that guy out a lot, that guy,

2662
02:06:26,240 --> 02:06:29,000
Speaker 12: that guy loves the club, but that guy get like

2663
02:06:29,040 --> 02:06:31,440
Speaker 12: loves the party. Like that they couldn't keep him focused,

2664
02:06:31,440 --> 02:06:34,560
Speaker 12: Like I know, that was definitely part of it. And uh,

2665
02:06:34,640 --> 02:06:38,000
Speaker 12: and then a lot of other things that that fell

2666
02:06:38,040 --> 02:06:39,960
Speaker 12: into place for him or didn't fall into place.

2667
02:06:40,000 --> 02:06:42,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, that draft is historically bad.

2668
02:06:42,280 --> 02:06:45,200
Speaker 12: Now, that's that's looking like one of the worst drafts

2669
02:06:45,600 --> 02:06:48,200
Speaker 12: I've seen a major league team having a long time.

2670
02:06:48,240 --> 02:06:50,440
Speaker 4: But then DJ really kicked in, and I mean now

2671
02:06:50,440 --> 02:06:51,520
Speaker 4: they've been phenomenal.

2672
02:06:51,600 --> 02:06:54,200
Speaker 12: So it's hard to harp on that first draft of

2673
02:06:54,200 --> 02:06:56,520
Speaker 12: that regime because they've been so they've been so good

2674
02:06:56,640 --> 02:07:00,560
Speaker 12: over overall since that, it's been pretty pretty darn solid.

2675
02:07:01,000 --> 02:07:04,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, And the thing with him personally, like the thing

2676
02:07:04,520 --> 02:07:07,800
Speaker 8: with with Tristan Pompey, Like, I know, he was highly heralded.

2677
02:07:07,840 --> 02:07:09,040
Speaker 4: I knew he was supposed to be good. I know

2678
02:07:09,120 --> 02:07:10,760
Speaker 4: he was decent in college and everything else.

2679
02:07:11,080 --> 02:07:12,760
Speaker 3: But the guy never grew.

2680
02:07:12,960 --> 02:07:16,240
Speaker 8: He never grew never like he was always this little

2681
02:07:16,320 --> 02:07:19,440
Speaker 8: lanky kid. There was Okay, maybe there's power projection, maybe

2682
02:07:19,440 --> 02:07:20,280
Speaker 8: he can grow with his body.

2683
02:07:20,280 --> 02:07:21,720
Speaker 4: He never grew his body.

2684
02:07:21,800 --> 02:07:25,640
Speaker 12: Not You've got to work out to do that, right exactly,

2685
02:07:25,720 --> 02:07:28,320
Speaker 12: You're right. I know I don't work out and my

2686
02:07:28,400 --> 02:07:31,360
Speaker 12: muscles don't appear either, but you know that no one

2687
02:07:31,400 --> 02:07:34,720
Speaker 12: invested millions to me to do that. So but yeah,

2688
02:07:35,080 --> 02:07:37,080
Speaker 12: that's that's the problem. I you know, and a lot

2689
02:07:37,080 --> 02:07:39,000
Speaker 12: of these guys were able to go off of natural

2690
02:07:39,120 --> 02:07:41,640
Speaker 12: athleticism and why re strength for so long. But then

2691
02:07:41,680 --> 02:07:43,800
Speaker 12: you get into a level of a bunch of guys

2692
02:07:43,800 --> 02:07:46,000
Speaker 12: that all could do the same thing, and now these

2693
02:07:46,000 --> 02:07:48,400
Speaker 12: other guys are working harder than you and and you

2694
02:07:48,440 --> 02:07:49,880
Speaker 12: can get lapped pretty quickly.

2695
02:07:50,800 --> 02:07:51,880
Speaker 4: And I think we see that a lot.

2696
02:07:51,920 --> 02:07:55,120
Speaker 12: But also ironically, look at Pompey stats in the Cape,

2697
02:07:55,120 --> 02:07:57,920
Speaker 12: if I remember correctly, he got blown up, and you

2698
02:07:57,920 --> 02:07:59,760
Speaker 12: don't always want to say, like kiss a death for

2699
02:07:59,760 --> 02:08:02,080
Speaker 12: again because he was bad in the Cape. A lot

2700
02:08:02,080 --> 02:08:05,160
Speaker 12: of them are tired long season, they're coming from their

2701
02:08:05,200 --> 02:08:07,240
Speaker 12: super regional that they just lost, and now they got

2702
02:08:07,240 --> 02:08:09,040
Speaker 12: to go play front of a bunch of scouts with

2703
02:08:09,040 --> 02:08:09,760
Speaker 12: a bunch of guns.

2704
02:08:10,000 --> 02:08:10,600
Speaker 4: Like I get it.

2705
02:08:10,800 --> 02:08:13,880
Speaker 12: But POMPEII got blown up in the Cape, and you know,

2706
02:08:13,920 --> 02:08:16,720
Speaker 12: maybe that was a little bit of a clue to

2707
02:08:16,720 --> 02:08:18,520
Speaker 12: the way he could handle upper level pitching.

2708
02:08:18,880 --> 02:08:21,640
Speaker 8: And wo Wood bad translation doesn't know what has happened.

2709
02:08:21,640 --> 02:08:23,640
Speaker 8: So I looked at that and I was covering the

2710
02:08:23,640 --> 02:08:24,080
Speaker 8: team back then.

2711
02:08:24,120 --> 02:08:27,000
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, well, you know there's still you know,

2712
02:08:27,120 --> 02:08:28,000
Speaker 4: physical projection.

2713
02:08:28,280 --> 02:08:31,680
Speaker 8: You know, maybe the wood bat you know versus go

2714
02:08:31,800 --> 02:08:33,240
Speaker 8: back kind of hurt him a little bit.

2715
02:08:33,280 --> 02:08:36,280
Speaker 4: You know, he's good on defense. On defense, I was

2716
02:08:36,360 --> 02:08:37,520
Speaker 4: kind of still in a little bit.

2717
02:08:37,560 --> 02:08:39,840
Speaker 8: And then he came to the organization. I know, he

2718
02:08:39,840 --> 02:08:41,720
Speaker 8: had a knee injury for a little while. I think,

2719
02:08:41,720 --> 02:08:44,800
Speaker 8: get an ac L injury or something, and you know,

2720
02:08:45,160 --> 02:08:48,360
Speaker 8: it just never happened, and obviously it's never going to happen,

2721
02:08:48,520 --> 02:08:52,400
Speaker 8: and it really sucks, I mean, but it happens, like

2722
02:08:53,240 --> 02:08:54,360
Speaker 8: you know, it happens.

2723
02:08:55,680 --> 02:08:58,360
Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah, I didn't hate the pick either, man,

2724
02:08:58,480 --> 02:09:01,240
Speaker 4: Like I honestly liked it. Oh good outside there.

2725
02:09:01,280 --> 02:09:04,080
Speaker 12: You know, you got a guy that had first round

2726
02:09:04,080 --> 02:09:07,920
Speaker 12: conversation around him, that struggled a little bit, that has

2727
02:09:08,000 --> 02:09:08,960
Speaker 12: like crazy tools.

2728
02:09:09,000 --> 02:09:11,200
Speaker 4: I mean, it was it was all it all made sense.

2729
02:09:12,120 --> 02:09:15,120
Speaker 12: But as we know, there's just unless you know, those

2730
02:09:15,160 --> 02:09:18,160
Speaker 12: those pre draft interviews are I think are quite important

2731
02:09:18,920 --> 02:09:20,880
Speaker 12: and and you know I don't maybe they don't get

2732
02:09:20,960 --> 02:09:26,200
Speaker 12: enough enough importance placed on them in some situations, but

2733
02:09:26,880 --> 02:09:28,280
Speaker 12: I think they're definitely important.

2734
02:09:29,080 --> 02:09:33,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, definitely an interesting time was that twenty eighteen,

2735
02:09:33,240 --> 02:09:37,080
Speaker 8: I think, But they've done pretty well since then. I mean,

2736
02:09:37,240 --> 02:09:40,160
Speaker 8: I know Derek's gone out, but DJ's got to stay.

2737
02:09:40,560 --> 02:09:43,680
Speaker 8: DJ's man. I mean, this guy is a beast.

2738
02:09:43,840 --> 02:09:44,840
Speaker 4: He's an absolute beast.

2739
02:09:45,080 --> 02:09:47,440
Speaker 12: I hope it turns into t Bradfield for the Marlins

2740
02:09:47,480 --> 02:09:48,920
Speaker 12: down the road with the way they like to get

2741
02:09:48,960 --> 02:09:50,120
Speaker 12: bandy guys. But uh.

2742
02:09:54,600 --> 02:09:57,840
Speaker 1: So, since Jeter video that trade for Reynolds, no.

2743
02:09:58,880 --> 02:10:01,920
Speaker 4: I mean, oh boy, here we go. Yeah, oh shoot,

2744
02:10:01,920 --> 02:10:04,320
Speaker 4: Elizen here, I'm sorry. I still want to talk about this.

2745
02:10:04,560 --> 02:10:06,360
Speaker 1: Do you guys think kim Men will make that move

2746
02:10:06,440 --> 02:10:08,360
Speaker 1: now and try to try to push for Reynolds or

2747
02:10:09,680 --> 02:10:11,320
Speaker 1: how do you think that it's gonna go down? Since

2748
02:10:11,400 --> 02:10:13,520
Speaker 1: Jeter was the one who said no for that trade,

2749
02:10:14,000 --> 02:10:16,480
Speaker 1: you guys think now, since I guess kim Men, you know,

2750
02:10:17,200 --> 02:10:19,360
Speaker 1: I think she'll have more of us say now when

2751
02:10:19,360 --> 02:10:21,400
Speaker 1: it comes to the trade, and I think they'll try

2752
02:10:21,440 --> 02:10:23,600
Speaker 1: to push to make that trade. I'd hope to god.

2753
02:10:24,880 --> 02:10:27,480
Speaker 12: I mean, I think if if that really was what

2754
02:10:27,640 --> 02:10:29,760
Speaker 12: was on the table, we don't know.

2755
02:10:30,160 --> 02:10:32,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, if that really was what was on the table,

2756
02:10:32,800 --> 02:10:35,160
Speaker 4: we don't we don't know. That's what it was, you

2757
02:10:35,200 --> 02:10:37,320
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So we we.

2758
02:10:37,400 --> 02:10:41,480
Speaker 8: Gotta stay a little a little transparent here. We don't

2759
02:10:41,560 --> 02:10:45,840
Speaker 8: know that that Jeter. I mean honestly, we don't. I

2760
02:10:45,880 --> 02:10:47,800
Speaker 8: know there's reports out and anything, but we don't know.

2761
02:10:48,320 --> 02:10:53,320
Speaker 8: So let's see what happens. Honestly, you know, there were

2762
02:10:53,400 --> 02:10:56,080
Speaker 8: other trades on the table, you know at other times

2763
02:10:56,120 --> 02:10:59,320
Speaker 8: that were you know, said to go through Jeter, Jeter.

2764
02:10:59,280 --> 02:11:03,360
Speaker 4: And den Bo that didn't happen. Let's see what happened.

2765
02:11:04,000 --> 02:11:07,080
Speaker 8: I don't want to jump to conclusions here on your space, Kevin,

2766
02:11:08,600 --> 02:11:11,680
Speaker 8: let's see. I mean, you're right, this is my spaces.

2767
02:11:11,680 --> 02:11:14,360
Speaker 8: I just noticed you're a great fit. You know, Reynalds

2768
02:11:14,680 --> 02:11:15,120
Speaker 8: great fit.

2769
02:11:15,400 --> 02:11:18,080
Speaker 4: We all know that. But let's not I.

2770
02:11:18,440 --> 02:11:21,120
Speaker 8: Wouldn't want you to jump to conclusions to play that

2771
02:11:21,120 --> 02:11:24,400
Speaker 8: that was was Derek Jeter, that that that decision.

2772
02:11:24,560 --> 02:11:27,640
Speaker 1: So no, yeah, you're right, you're right, But personally I

2773
02:11:27,720 --> 02:11:30,480
Speaker 1: kind of want to Oscar a little bit more than Brian.

2774
02:11:30,960 --> 02:11:33,160
Speaker 1: Although no, Brian Renolds.

2775
02:11:32,800 --> 02:11:35,560
Speaker 3: Would be great. No, Brian Reynolds is superior too.

2776
02:11:36,240 --> 02:11:39,200
Speaker 4: No, no, I I you're talking at the Oscar would

2777
02:11:39,200 --> 02:11:39,760
Speaker 4: be a nice option.

2778
02:11:40,000 --> 02:11:42,840
Speaker 3: Of course, Reynolds one is gonna hurt it.

2779
02:11:42,840 --> 02:11:44,760
Speaker 4: I think the Renalds, the Reynolds one might happen.

2780
02:11:44,800 --> 02:11:45,400
Speaker 3: It's gonna hurt.

2781
02:11:45,400 --> 02:11:49,120
Speaker 1: I'm just surprised that the Yankees were actually targeting this guy.

2782
02:11:49,160 --> 02:11:51,879
Speaker 1: They would have to give up Reynolds. What is exactly

2783
02:11:51,920 --> 02:11:54,720
Speaker 1: what the Yankees need? Like, No, I know, I know,

2784
02:11:54,760 --> 02:11:56,440
Speaker 1: I'm just saying the price they're gonna have to give

2785
02:11:56,440 --> 02:11:59,200
Speaker 1: away though, the minor leaguers and possibly even major leaguers.

2786
02:11:59,760 --> 02:12:02,880
Speaker 1: It it's gonna be huge because the Yankees going up

2787
02:12:02,880 --> 02:12:05,600
Speaker 1: too much more than Jason dimigie Is and a couple

2788
02:12:05,600 --> 02:12:06,120
Speaker 1: other guys and.

2789
02:12:06,120 --> 02:12:08,800
Speaker 4: What Ron probably knows a lot more about, don't maybe

2790
02:12:08,840 --> 02:12:10,840
Speaker 4: the best player in that system for a long time.

2791
02:12:11,680 --> 02:12:14,160
Speaker 14: Agree, I mean, if anything, Kevin, they actually i'd say

2792
02:12:14,240 --> 02:12:17,080
Speaker 14: better fit because they have that centerpiece and Anthony Vulpe,

2793
02:12:17,160 --> 02:12:19,720
Speaker 14: who was better than any Marlin's prospect, but.

2794
02:12:22,800 --> 02:12:27,080
Speaker 12: He is better than any of marlins prospect margin at

2795
02:12:27,080 --> 02:12:31,240
Speaker 12: Allan wouldn't trade him for anyone. I don't think there's

2796
02:12:31,240 --> 02:12:32,640
Speaker 12: a I don't think there's a soul of the Yankees

2797
02:12:32,640 --> 02:12:36,360
Speaker 12: trade him for that is actually a tradable piece by

2798
02:12:36,400 --> 02:12:37,080
Speaker 12: all accounts.

2799
02:12:37,600 --> 02:12:40,840
Speaker 4: I would I would almost be shocked if was ever traded.

2800
02:12:41,080 --> 02:12:45,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, this guy slugged six hundred.

2801
02:12:44,400 --> 02:12:51,880
Speaker 12: Growth and I can say bats ball for Yeah, he's

2802
02:12:52,240 --> 02:12:57,000
Speaker 12: another guy, top top twelve, probably top ten prospect potentially.

2803
02:12:57,520 --> 02:13:00,320
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I I thought that. I think alst time

2804
02:13:00,360 --> 02:13:01,840
Speaker 3: I saw the whole that will one he might have

2805
02:13:01,880 --> 02:13:03,720
Speaker 3: been like top fifty. But yeah, you're right, he is

2806
02:13:03,720 --> 02:13:04,480
Speaker 3: top twenty now at.

2807
02:13:04,480 --> 02:13:07,440
Speaker 4: Least, Yeah, he's gonna be. Well, I'm trying to figure out.

2808
02:13:07,600 --> 02:13:10,400
Speaker 12: I'm probably putting the matter like Marcosiano even.

2809
02:13:10,480 --> 02:13:13,600
Speaker 8: I mean, I would have had good top five, top

2810
02:13:13,640 --> 02:13:15,960
Speaker 8: five prospect in all of baseball period.

2811
02:13:16,000 --> 02:13:17,320
Speaker 4: Well, you know it's not.

2812
02:13:17,240 --> 02:13:20,920
Speaker 12: Over who and Bobby went right now and Spencer honestly,

2813
02:13:21,800 --> 02:13:22,800
Speaker 12: Tarco and Grain.

2814
02:13:25,160 --> 02:13:29,440
Speaker 4: I would even put Francisco Alvarez over the guy. The

2815
02:13:29,520 --> 02:13:33,400
Speaker 4: guy is what how old is he? What? Twenty twenty?

2816
02:13:33,440 --> 02:13:35,760
Speaker 4: He's twenty? I think he just turned twenty one. He's

2817
02:13:35,760 --> 02:13:38,840
Speaker 4: gonna turn twenty one, and I think he turns twenty

2818
02:13:38,840 --> 02:13:39,160
Speaker 4: one soon?

2819
02:13:39,240 --> 02:13:40,000
Speaker 3: Is he twenty one already?

2820
02:13:40,320 --> 02:13:42,360
Speaker 1: Think he's still insane.

2821
02:13:42,880 --> 02:13:45,920
Speaker 10: I'm pretty and if he is twenty one, he's a

2822
02:13:45,960 --> 02:13:47,400
Speaker 10: young twenty one.

2823
02:13:47,800 --> 02:13:51,120
Speaker 8: Like, this guy's good, He's going to be really really

2824
02:13:51,160 --> 02:13:51,760
Speaker 8: really good.

2825
02:13:52,160 --> 02:13:52,760
Speaker 3: He's crazy.

2826
02:13:53,440 --> 02:13:56,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he's insane. I would say definitely top ten,

2827
02:13:57,160 --> 02:14:00,400
Speaker 4: say top five, but they could they could have Brian

2828
02:14:00,400 --> 02:14:01,720
Speaker 4: Reynolds without trading a little bad.

2829
02:14:01,720 --> 02:14:03,959
Speaker 3: I think, oh, do you think.

2830
02:14:04,400 --> 02:14:08,840
Speaker 12: Yeah, you start with you start with Piazza sending as

2831
02:14:08,920 --> 02:14:11,680
Speaker 12: we want Glaber. I think there'd still be interest from

2832
02:14:11,720 --> 02:14:14,240
Speaker 12: the pirates in Glaber, like they would still want a

2833
02:14:14,280 --> 02:14:15,120
Speaker 12: young infielder.

2834
02:14:15,160 --> 02:14:15,520
Speaker 3: I think.

2835
02:14:17,880 --> 02:14:20,400
Speaker 8: I know everybody loves to Mangas because he's this young stud,

2836
02:14:20,440 --> 02:14:21,400
Speaker 8: but one trick pony.

2837
02:14:21,520 --> 02:14:23,040
Speaker 4: Honestly, I would send him.

2838
02:14:25,400 --> 02:14:27,720
Speaker 10: I was telling this to the loop guy that I

2839
02:14:27,720 --> 02:14:29,840
Speaker 10: said high to at the store, like the main guy,

2840
02:14:30,000 --> 02:14:30,960
Speaker 10: I was telling the same things.

2841
02:14:31,280 --> 02:14:33,760
Speaker 3: I don't I'm not as high on him as everyone

2842
02:14:33,760 --> 02:14:34,760
Speaker 3: else in the world.

2843
02:14:34,760 --> 02:14:35,240
Speaker 2: I don't get it.

2844
02:14:35,280 --> 02:14:37,920
Speaker 3: I'll see it. I think he's like, he's a crazy

2845
02:14:37,920 --> 02:14:39,680
Speaker 3: specimen with He's.

2846
02:14:39,560 --> 02:14:41,960
Speaker 8: The kind of prospect that everybody clings on to because

2847
02:14:42,000 --> 02:14:45,520
Speaker 8: of his power potential. And he has great power potential

2848
02:14:45,960 --> 02:14:49,120
Speaker 8: but zero zero defensive potential.

2849
02:14:49,480 --> 02:14:53,160
Speaker 4: Zero. He is either a first baseman or a dhe

2850
02:14:53,280 --> 02:15:02,560
Speaker 4: period you're taking right, maybe left field at a thrifty rate.

2851
02:15:02,680 --> 02:15:03,879
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe he's.

2852
02:15:03,680 --> 02:15:06,400
Speaker 12: Got a crazy arm and yeah, that's kind of the

2853
02:15:06,480 --> 02:15:07,080
Speaker 12: selling point.

2854
02:15:07,120 --> 02:15:08,800
Speaker 4: But I don't love him.

2855
02:15:08,960 --> 02:15:11,560
Speaker 12: It was a three for fifty four against breaking balls

2856
02:15:11,560 --> 02:15:12,760
Speaker 12: this year, right.

2857
02:15:13,200 --> 02:15:13,920
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just.

2858
02:15:15,400 --> 02:15:17,320
Speaker 12: When I watched him, when I watched him that hammerhead

2859
02:15:17,360 --> 02:15:20,680
Speaker 12: start his usually so many moving parts to his swing,

2860
02:15:20,840 --> 02:15:21,360
Speaker 12: and it.

2861
02:15:21,360 --> 02:15:24,280
Speaker 4: Was faced by the way he faced. Did he face No,

2862
02:15:24,360 --> 02:15:24,959
Speaker 4: I watched.

2863
02:15:24,760 --> 02:15:27,240
Speaker 12: Him face at least Pelatios, and I watched him get

2864
02:15:27,280 --> 02:15:27,800
Speaker 12: gassed up.

2865
02:15:27,880 --> 02:15:30,640
Speaker 4: He got gassed up by eighty six on three occasions.

2866
02:15:31,360 --> 02:15:36,240
Speaker 8: Louis Plasios has has zero zero zero velocity like the

2867
02:15:36,240 --> 02:15:36,720
Speaker 8: guy throws.

2868
02:15:36,920 --> 02:15:37,840
Speaker 2: No, I'm not.

2869
02:15:39,360 --> 02:15:39,760
Speaker 1: Three times.

2870
02:15:40,400 --> 02:15:42,920
Speaker 4: It was eighty six. I'm not kidding. I had I

2871
02:15:42,960 --> 02:15:46,000
Speaker 4: had the I had the track, I had literally the

2872
02:15:46,000 --> 02:15:46,400
Speaker 4: track man.

2873
02:15:46,480 --> 02:15:48,800
Speaker 12: I was looking at it eighty six, swung through it

2874
02:15:48,840 --> 02:15:51,000
Speaker 12: three times, I think eighty six, eighty eight, eighty six.

2875
02:15:51,320 --> 02:15:53,480
Speaker 14: Yeah, he has a problem where if you look at

2876
02:15:53,680 --> 02:15:56,400
Speaker 14: the track man stuff, it comes in as a change up.

2877
02:15:57,040 --> 02:15:57,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2878
02:15:57,360 --> 02:16:00,240
Speaker 12: Yeah, it literally comes in and it registers has a

2879
02:16:00,360 --> 02:16:00,840
Speaker 12: change up.

2880
02:16:03,680 --> 02:16:03,920
Speaker 10: Yeah.

2881
02:16:04,040 --> 02:16:07,200
Speaker 4: That that is it actually blends the pictures together.

2882
02:16:07,680 --> 02:16:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2883
02:16:08,200 --> 02:16:10,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love you.

2884
02:16:10,800 --> 02:16:14,200
Speaker 8: He could be okay, as like, I don't know if

2885
02:16:14,280 --> 02:16:17,720
Speaker 8: if he finds more velocity he definitely needs. But still,

2886
02:16:17,760 --> 02:16:20,400
Speaker 8: I mean, if you're striking out Jason Minga is with

2887
02:16:20,440 --> 02:16:24,280
Speaker 8: eighty six that says a lot. So yeah, it's that

2888
02:16:25,360 --> 02:16:27,560
Speaker 8: can that can hit hard and and not hits soft.

2889
02:16:27,680 --> 02:16:32,000
Speaker 8: So it's it's ridiculous, like uh, and I don't want

2890
02:16:32,000 --> 02:16:34,440
Speaker 8: to talk crap like, I mean, the guy definitely has

2891
02:16:34,640 --> 02:16:37,320
Speaker 8: power projection and everything else like that Arom looks at.

2892
02:16:37,360 --> 02:16:41,920
Speaker 8: But yeah, he's he's definitely a a.

2893
02:16:42,280 --> 02:16:44,119
Speaker 3: One trick pony. Like I said, I mean, he can

2894
02:16:44,160 --> 02:16:45,000
Speaker 3: hit and nuts.

2895
02:16:47,920 --> 02:16:51,760
Speaker 10: I saw him take vp VP on Twitter video and

2896
02:16:51,800 --> 02:16:53,920
Speaker 10: I was like, not that impressed.

2897
02:16:53,959 --> 02:16:55,960
Speaker 3: I'm sure.

2898
02:16:57,400 --> 02:17:01,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, man, it's like there's many instant's first like three

2899
02:17:01,760 --> 02:17:03,880
Speaker 10: at bats in the Marlin's uniform browning.

2900
02:17:07,600 --> 02:17:09,840
Speaker 8: Let me just say I would take Jose Salas over him,

2901
02:17:09,920 --> 02:17:10,520
Speaker 8: that's for sure.

2902
02:17:11,120 --> 02:17:11,480
Speaker 2: Easy.

2903
02:17:12,120 --> 02:17:14,560
Speaker 4: I was just about ask who would you treat Kilo

2904
02:17:14,680 --> 02:17:16,000
Speaker 4: Watson or Jose Salas?

2905
02:17:16,920 --> 02:17:22,720
Speaker 12: Oh god, oh jeez, that's a crazy question. That's a

2906
02:17:22,760 --> 02:17:26,080
Speaker 12: really tough question. I mean, Watson, I think is just

2907
02:17:26,160 --> 02:17:32,400
Speaker 12: a different level of offensive potential. But you know, there's

2908
02:17:32,520 --> 02:17:36,920
Speaker 12: there's a lot of questions around Watson. I I think

2909
02:17:37,080 --> 02:17:42,280
Speaker 12: given the Marlins situation, I'm taking Watson's upside personally, he

2910
02:17:42,360 --> 02:17:46,720
Speaker 12: could literally be so insanely dynamic offensively.

2911
02:17:47,320 --> 02:17:47,840
Speaker 3: Uh.

2912
02:17:48,080 --> 02:17:50,000
Speaker 12: I think Salace could be really good. But I think

2913
02:17:50,320 --> 02:17:53,240
Speaker 12: what what Watson's healing is like limitless almost with how

2914
02:17:53,440 --> 02:17:55,720
Speaker 12: freaky he is in the batter's box, I'd have to

2915
02:17:55,720 --> 02:17:56,560
Speaker 12: stick with Watson.

2916
02:17:57,360 --> 02:17:59,080
Speaker 3: That's a that's probably the professional answer.

2917
02:17:59,160 --> 02:18:01,720
Speaker 4: I said, Solace, keep Solace, but yeah, I mean to

2918
02:18:02,200 --> 02:18:02,800
Speaker 4: keep Solace.

2919
02:18:03,640 --> 02:18:04,959
Speaker 3: Answer would be Keith Watson.

2920
02:18:05,080 --> 02:18:05,480
Speaker 1: Watson.

2921
02:18:05,600 --> 02:18:07,920
Speaker 12: Watson's a guy that you know, if it's if it

2922
02:18:07,959 --> 02:18:11,560
Speaker 12: weren't for some makeup concerns and signability concerns, you know,

2923
02:18:11,760 --> 02:18:13,879
Speaker 12: was was a sure thing to be a top ten.

2924
02:18:13,760 --> 02:18:16,920
Speaker 4: Pick, uh potential, top five, potential, top.

2925
02:18:16,760 --> 02:18:17,840
Speaker 2: Five I had.

2926
02:18:17,920 --> 02:18:20,280
Speaker 12: I had him in our mock draft going going three,

2927
02:18:20,680 --> 02:18:23,240
Speaker 12: So like I was, I was way off.

2928
02:18:23,720 --> 02:18:25,880
Speaker 4: You know, I've felt really good about that.

2929
02:18:25,920 --> 02:18:29,000
Speaker 12: Like I obviously didn't know uh as much about on

2930
02:18:29,040 --> 02:18:31,120
Speaker 12: the you know, off the field kind of stuff and

2931
02:18:31,120 --> 02:18:33,000
Speaker 12: and just team perspective and stuff like that.

2932
02:18:33,000 --> 02:18:35,760
Speaker 4: That was just based off of what I looked at

2933
02:18:35,800 --> 02:18:36,840
Speaker 4: what I saw, But.

2934
02:18:36,879 --> 02:18:39,560
Speaker 12: Yeah, it was it was crazy to see him free fall,

2935
02:18:39,640 --> 02:18:42,440
Speaker 12: and you know, in terms of what you're getting potential wise,

2936
02:18:42,720 --> 02:18:45,080
Speaker 12: you'll we won't see a draft for a long time.

2937
02:18:45,120 --> 02:18:46,880
Speaker 12: I think with where a guy at falls to sixteen

2938
02:18:46,920 --> 02:18:49,199
Speaker 12: with that much potential, I just don't think.

2939
02:18:49,040 --> 02:18:54,280
Speaker 8: We will go answer from a ram. I think Khalil

2940
02:18:54,920 --> 02:18:57,240
Speaker 8: right now at least, I mean, maybe this can change

2941
02:18:57,240 --> 02:18:59,400
Speaker 8: in the future for Salas. And I love Salas, so

2942
02:18:59,440 --> 02:19:01,800
Speaker 8: I'm not talking about Salas. I love Jose Salas. He's

2943
02:19:01,840 --> 02:19:04,720
Speaker 8: one of my favorite process in the organization. But I

2944
02:19:04,760 --> 02:19:08,080
Speaker 8: think I think Khalil has more of a ability to

2945
02:19:08,200 --> 02:19:11,240
Speaker 8: cover the plate more and go to all fields more

2946
02:19:11,280 --> 02:19:15,400
Speaker 8: better than Jose Salas, who is very pole happy. So yeah,

2947
02:19:15,560 --> 02:19:18,520
Speaker 8: I mean, I mean Khalil can get pull happy definitely,

2948
02:19:18,520 --> 02:19:20,640
Speaker 8: and I think he saw that in his high school

2949
02:19:20,680 --> 02:19:24,080
Speaker 8: career and I think that in the future. But I

2950
02:19:24,080 --> 02:19:26,160
Speaker 8: think he has more of an ability to cover the

2951
02:19:26,280 --> 02:19:30,000
Speaker 8: entire plate than than Jose Salas. So Salas and you

2952
02:19:30,040 --> 02:19:33,320
Speaker 8: can look at the Fangrass numbers on this, he literally

2953
02:19:33,720 --> 02:19:39,400
Speaker 8: literally went in terms of fcl and and went to

2954
02:19:39,760 --> 02:19:42,280
Speaker 8: his pull side more than fifty percent of the time

2955
02:19:42,360 --> 02:19:45,320
Speaker 8: last year. So that's something he's gonna have to fix,

2956
02:19:45,400 --> 02:19:47,360
Speaker 8: is to you know, try to go to more fields,

2957
02:19:47,360 --> 02:19:51,240
Speaker 8: more work already that kind of ability, So yeah, I

2958
02:19:51,320 --> 02:19:56,160
Speaker 8: mean it's an Khalil. I think will will go to

2959
02:19:56,240 --> 02:19:59,440
Speaker 8: Jupiter this year. I think he will play shortstop. I

2960
02:19:59,879 --> 02:20:03,280
Speaker 8: have have personally I have uh Salash playing third base.

2961
02:20:03,600 --> 02:20:07,080
Speaker 8: That's me personally. Whether that happens or not, who knows.

2962
02:20:07,080 --> 02:20:08,720
Speaker 8: But they're gonna have to move some parts because of

2963
02:20:08,720 --> 02:20:09,959
Speaker 8: all of these middle umfields.

2964
02:20:11,120 --> 02:20:12,959
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, I.

2965
02:20:12,879 --> 02:20:16,279
Speaker 8: Have Falila as the starting shortstop and uh and sala

2966
02:20:16,320 --> 02:20:21,000
Speaker 8: says the starting third baseman. But we'll see what happens.

2967
02:20:25,800 --> 02:20:30,000
Speaker 4: Anything else from anyone, I hope to see all you

2968
02:20:30,000 --> 02:20:30,880
Speaker 4: guys very soon.

2969
02:20:31,200 --> 02:20:35,120
Speaker 3: This this thinks we were really deep into a lockout

2970
02:20:35,120 --> 02:20:38,520
Speaker 3: where we were talking about the factors when.

2971
02:20:38,360 --> 02:20:42,000
Speaker 10: You've a row team is the home team in certain situations,

2972
02:20:42,040 --> 02:20:44,560
Speaker 10: like when Miami was the home team in safe Ago

2973
02:20:44,560 --> 02:20:45,320
Speaker 10: a few years ago.

2974
02:20:45,879 --> 02:20:46,960
Speaker 3: That's how bored we all are.

2975
02:20:49,360 --> 02:20:49,880
Speaker 4: Jesus.

2976
02:20:50,120 --> 02:20:52,160
Speaker 3: But no, nothing else, I don't think.

2977
02:20:54,360 --> 02:21:01,080
Speaker 8: Okay, fun stuff, Kevin, thank you for for having us.

2978
02:21:01,920 --> 02:21:02,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2979
02:21:02,400 --> 02:21:05,520
Speaker 1: I did not think this would go this long, to

2980
02:21:05,520 --> 02:21:06,920
Speaker 1: be honest, I thought it would be like a thirty

2981
02:21:06,959 --> 02:21:09,560
Speaker 1: minute spaces and that's it. But people started joining in.

2982
02:21:11,000 --> 02:21:16,320
Speaker 1: I'm glad. Yeah, alrighty wait, how do I see the

2983
02:21:16,360 --> 02:21:19,200
Speaker 1: recording after Eli? You know, but.

2984
02:21:19,280 --> 02:21:21,520
Speaker 14: I've already done the hard work that if you just

2985
02:21:21,560 --> 02:21:24,080
Speaker 14: go back to this link afterwards, it's already going to

2986
02:21:24,080 --> 02:21:25,000
Speaker 14: be saved.

2987
02:21:25,120 --> 02:21:26,240
Speaker 1: Right there the same lin.

2988
02:21:26,480 --> 02:21:29,000
Speaker 14: So I think you think you set it up all right,

2989
02:21:29,320 --> 02:21:32,720
Speaker 14: and based on I heard what like the back half of.

2990
02:21:32,680 --> 02:21:34,440
Speaker 1: This, oh, you'll listen to the whole thing.

2991
02:21:34,480 --> 02:21:34,760
Speaker 14: It was.

2992
02:21:34,840 --> 02:21:35,560
Speaker 1: It was pretty good.

2993
02:21:36,000 --> 02:21:38,760
Speaker 14: Okay, yeah, so I'll use it. I'll push it across

2994
02:21:38,800 --> 02:21:39,800
Speaker 14: the pod feed as well.

2995
02:21:40,200 --> 02:21:41,160
Speaker 3: So perfect.

2996
02:21:41,600 --> 02:21:45,440
Speaker 1: That's that's the point, all right, go already people, I'll

2997
02:21:45,440 --> 02:21:48,400
Speaker 1: see Isaac and Alex Daniel Eli tomorrow.

2998
02:21:49,640 --> 02:21:50,039
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2999
02:21:50,120 --> 02:21:52,240
Speaker 1: Thanks guys, have a good night.

3000
02:21:52,520 --> 02:21:53,280
Speaker 4: That was that was cool.

3001
02:21:53,320 --> 02:21:55,240
Speaker 3: Thank you for putting it off.