WEBVTT - 2023 Quarterback Recruits with Ari Wasserman 0:00:02.000 --> 0:00:05.040 Welcome to the solid verbal hell. 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:08.119 That for me, I'm a man, I'm forty. 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:10.119 I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:10.639 be happy. 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:12.080 You want to be happy for a day? 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:14.440 Edith Steak is that woo woof? 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:20.400 And then and tie Welcome back to the solid verbol, 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:23.200 boys and girls. My name is ty Hilda Brand, that 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:27.240 fine gentleman over there, the monster of the Midwest, the 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:28.480 one of the only Dan rubis Sezer. 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:30.720 Hey you doing, I'm good. I like when you change 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:33.440 up my introduction. It really keeps me on my toes. 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:36.599 I'm good, I'm good. I had some honey roasted peanuts, 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:38.479 I took a shower, and now I'm talking to you. 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:42.280 That's like the trifecta of fun times midweek. So no 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:43.279 complaints and. 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:46.440 The superfecta is in root. We've got Ari wasser Grew 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:49.639 stopping by here momentarily. We want to talk to him 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:54.360 specifically about twenty twenty three quarterbacks. Yes, notably arch Manning. 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:57.320 Arch Manning is the name you've if you filed college football. 0:00:57.360 --> 0:00:59.920 Even if you don't follow college football, just follow foot 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:02.880 ball or sports. You know that arch Manning is a 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:06.039 thing we will talk about. Arch Manning. Is he worth 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:09.600 the hype. Yeah, we don't know where he's headed. You know, 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:11.800 you could throw dart and find any number of like 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:14.320 half a dozen schools that could be in the running 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:15.840 for arch Manning. I don't know if we'll get quite 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:18.119 to that extreme with it, but I'm interested in talking 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:20.039 to him about that. I know you're interested also in 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:24.120 talking about just ramifications that we've see from the rapid 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:26.679 change of college football as of late, things like nil 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:29.880 transfer portal, how do you manage stuff like that From 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.280 the coaching side. We'll get into all that and much 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:34.720 much more with our good friend Ari Wassman. Also need 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:37.160 to talk boat goals with Ari. While we're always sort 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:39.680 of like our lane, now after the last couple, I 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:42.560 think we're just going to devolve to a place where 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:46.400 everybody is kind of saying the same thing about big boat, 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:53.000 the Adriatic, the Mediterranean, you know, the French Riviera or whatever, 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:55.720 which which is good, although I mean there's something to 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:57.480 be said for a lot of different places around the 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:00.440 world that's not in that place. But that just I 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.639 don't know, it seems pretty attractive to me the twenty 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:07.040 twenty three quarterback class to go back to that momentarily, 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:09.520 I don't know if you have any thoughts. I don't 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.480 believe Notre Dame has a quarterback committed at the moment. 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:14.960 I don't think that Domino has fallen for the Irish yet. 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:18.240 No for Marcus Freeman. Same goes for Oregon, who very 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:23.320 much was in the hunt for Nico Yama Lava Yama Lava, 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:26.960 who ended up at Tennessee with much bally Who considering is. 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:28.480 That might be the first time I've ever said Bally 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:29.320 Who on Bally Who. 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:31.400 I'm pretty happy about it. 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:34.160 It's a fascinating class. It's a fascinating class because of Anil, 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:36.880 It's a past fascinating class because of Arch Manning. Whatever 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.560 he is or isn't, obviously, he has the attention of 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.639 a lot of huge schools. We had Malachai Nelson who 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:45.240 was committed to Oklahoma when Lincoln Riley was there, and 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.080 he flips he's from southern California, he flips to USC 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:50.520 And so there are a number of dominoes. I think 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:53.480 there's a quarterback from northern California who's considering a few 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:57.239 big places that is a five star and also fascinatingly, 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:00.560 and I want to ask Ari about this quarterbacks committed 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:06.320 to non offensive powerhouses that have options. That are the 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:08.919 schools that they're committed to are out of their their 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:13.000 geographic footprints? And is it a transfer portal thing? Is 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:15.680 it these schools doing a better job selling themselves? 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:16.480 Is it a. 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:21.919 Schools bending over backwards? Is it an nil thing? It's 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:26.480 it's a fascinating year for quarterbacks. Not the least of 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:30.520 which reason whyse is that's not English is the number 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:33.400 of coaches who are on the move, Like what is 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:36.160 LSU going to be doing? What is you know, Florida 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:38.400 going to be doing, Oregon Notre Dame, like all of 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:41.760 these huge places. USC moving forward after this year obviously 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:45.400 is going to be a huge destination. So I just 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:48.040 I think Oklahoma has a big one in the fold 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:49.480 right now if you're looking at the list. 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:50.120 Is that true? 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:53.240 Believe they do? Yes, absolutely, Oklahoma is like the number 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:56.320 five or six Jackson Arnold, Jackson Arnold, there you go. 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:59.360 Which was the name of the father on the Wonder Years? 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:03.600 Was he not Jack Arnold, Dan Lauria jack Arnold. I 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:06.440 think that's true? So, uh, this is great, This is 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:09.160 this is great for us off season fodder. And I 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:11.600 suppose as soon as arch Manning makes his decision, I 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:13.800 assume coming up, dominoes are gonna fall. 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:16.800 Domino's dominoes will definitely fall. We'll talk about that about 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:20.200 so much more with our good friend Ari, who we 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:22.560 haven't spoken with in I don't know a couple months now, 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:24.719 so it'd be good to have him back. Don't forget 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:27.080 this show. 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We're 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.960 drawing the winner next month, so you probably go about 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:43.920 two two and a half weeks before we're going to 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:47.320 pick that winner. Going out there a few free, quick 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:49.560 and easy steps to follow, things like follow us on 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:52.440 social media blah blah blah, some easy stuff to do. 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:55.880 You can find it out there at solid giveaway dot com. 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:58.960 Daniel agreat You definitely can, all right, Dan, it is 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:02.560 that wonderful time of year again. I don't know if 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:04.920 we brought him on this time last year. Probably at 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.080 some point, no last spread, I don't know. 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:08.240 I don't know when. The last time he was on 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:09.799 was during the season at some point. 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:13.479 Yeah. National college football reporter for The Athletic on his 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:17.200 Twitter bio, it says stars matter, I hate your favorite team. 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:20.440 Ari Wasserman, Welcome back to the show, sir. How you 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:21.520 doing h. 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:24.800 I wish I was on every week, guys. I'm so 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.200 excited every time I get every single time I get 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:30.240 that text you have time for SV Yeah, I've got 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:32.520 it always, And today was actually a pretty busy day 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:33.800 for me, and I still I made time. 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:38.080 How would Andy Staples feel hearing that he knows the truth? Yeah? 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.680 Wow, yeah, I mean I didn't say anything bad about 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:42.200 our show. I just love being on this show. 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:46.680 Wonderful. Well, let's get things started in as light of 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:50.240 fashion as possible. This has nothing to do with football, 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.680 but you are down in Dallas. They have a big 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:55.800 lake down there. Dan and I have been talking at 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:57.840 nauseum lately and I don't really even know how he 0:06:57.920 --> 0:06:58.719 got on this topic. 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:02.840 Wait, we're doing this then in the onset right to start. 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:05.280 We're coming in hot, Dan, We're coming in hot. How 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:08.719 about this specialty? I'm going to introduce the premise of 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:12.440 boat Goals now, oh okay, and we're gonna give Ari 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:16.080 an opportunity to think about it and then respond later. 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:17.360 Okay, Okay. 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:19.400 I think he's probably already thought about it, but yes, 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:23.520 hashtag boat goals. We're trying to speak it into existence. Ari, 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.160 what are your boat goals? You don't have to answer now, 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:28.239 just think about this. I'm gonna ask a recruiting question. 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:28.920 Moment, give it tease. 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:32.880 But you know, like we're talking about doing some sort 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:36.560 of big boat adventure in like the bay or the 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:42.200 harbor outside the Monte Carlo Grand Prix, all sorts of 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:44.560 crazy stuff like what would you want to do on 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:48.040 a boat if you had limitless funds, whatever kind of 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:51.440 boat at your disposal, et cetera, et cetera, that type 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:51.720 of thing. 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:55.400 Yeah, you said, I live near a lake and my 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:56.920 boat's not going on a freaking lake. 0:07:57.800 --> 0:07:59.600 Exactly right. It's a good attitude to have. 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:00.960 So we'll talk about it all right. 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:03.880 Yeah, yeah, oligarc level aspirations. 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:06.600 If you say money is not an object, you can 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:08.800 automatically assume that I'm going one hundred percent of the 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:10.640 way with it. Yeah, of course, I'm not going to 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:11.960 be one of those people. It's just like, well, I 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:14.280 want what I want. I'll just take a two person 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:15.720 sail boat and just go on and pat. 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:19.200 I'm a low key catamaran type No, Yeah, absolutely not. 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:21.000 You're in a bezos boat with that kind of money, 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:24.560 all right, So yeah, R. Wasserman the big name in 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:28.480 recruiting right now. I mean, we just finished one recruiting cycle, 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:31.280 we're about to start another. Or the other that we'll 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:34.840 be talking about more often is well underway. Arch Manning. 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.360 Arch Manning is the name that everybody knows. Everybody is 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.280 waiting with bated breath to see which direction he goes. 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:44.600 I've heard about a thousand different schools that might be interested. Lately, 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:48.880 it's been a smaller handful. Let me start with a 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:52.160 really dumb, potentially obvious question. We know he's a Manning. 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:55.000 Is he really worth all the hype? 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:57.560 So that's a kind of a difficult question for me 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:02.520 to answer because because it's just there's no way to 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:07.040 separate the hype from his name, so like it's impossible. 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:09.240 So what I'll say to answer that is that he 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:12.080 is a five star quarterback. Like if his last name 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:15.400 was Wasserman, he would be a five star quarterback. Now 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:18.120 would he be the number one overall player? Would he 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:22.320 be gaining as much attention as he is right now? 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:24.640 Probably not, because I think that there is a certain 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:29.120 mythical thing about him, and having two Hall of Fame 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:31.920 uncles and his family and his last name that just 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:34.800 exudes greatness. And the thing that I think about arch 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:36.840 Manning more than anything is that if you look at 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.880 the schools that are pursuing him outside of ole miss 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:41.920 I mean, everyone's pursuing him, but the ones that he 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.440 seems to be giving the most attention in return to 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:47.560 all have signed five star quarterbacks in the recent past. 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:49.720 I mean even Texas just got Quinn yours last year. 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:53.200 So it's not like he is a commodity for these 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:56.959 schools that is irreplaceable. What I think that he is 0:09:57.120 --> 0:10:01.240 from my viewpoint is almost a symbolic figure in the 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.000 sense of if your school is able to get this 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:07.680 person who doesn't speak to the media, who doesn't tweet, 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.600 who has advisors on his side like Peyton Manning and 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:17.000 Eli Manning, it proves to the world that your program 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:21.800 is the most fitting for a person of his stature, 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.840 which I think matters to people. So the thing that 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.160 recruiting has gotten to the point that it is is 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:30.520 because people like competing when there are no games, and 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:34.040 it's like what recruit could ever match the magnitude of 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.960 what that commitment would mean. So if he goes to Georgia, 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:40.680 you know, a team that has brought vandergriff on the 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.480 roster already, it's not like Georgia is in well maybe 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:45.480 you know, you know help. My take is on walk 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:48.040 on quarterbacks who just won the national championship. But you know, 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:49.880 in order to sustain that level of success at some 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:51.800 point they're going to have to have an NFL quarterback 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:55.439 playing there. Do they absolutely need arch Manning? No? Does 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:57.839 Alabama absolutely need arch Manning when they've got the best 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.839 player in college football right now playing the quarterback was No, 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:03.600 all these teams won't cease to exist. But if he 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:06.480 goes to Georgia or Texas or Alabama, what it means 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:09.520 for that program has a destination for other players to 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:12.480 go to. It's kind of like picking royalty. So that 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:15.840 to me is the height more so than his ability, 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:17.600 because when you look at quarterbacks in the day, in 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:20.559 this day and age, and my colleague Antonio Morales wrote 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:23.720 a really good story about this, the amount of money 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:28.480 people are spending high school parents on quarterback coaches and 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:32.800 weightlifting regimen and diet and basically making these show these 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:35.520 soldiers of players out of their teenagers in order to 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:37.520 get a scholarship. I mean a lot of times, it's 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:39.400 actually kind of funny to me because financially they're paying 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:42.360 more than the education than in training that it is 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:45.360 to to just you know, you know, do it the 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:47.439 right way or the wrong there's no right or wrong way. 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.000 But I'm saying the amount of money people are sinking 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:50.880 in outweighs how much they would just pay to send 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:53.760 their kid to school. But the quarterbacks in general, and 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:55.439 I've been to the Elite eleven I'm going this year, 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:58.040 I went last year. Those guys on that field are 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.319 all very very very good. In a lot of time, 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:02.920 is very indistinguishable from one another, and I think whether 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.240 or not that they are successful in college is based 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:07.040 on a lot of other things, not just pure talent, 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:10.319 but fit, attitude, in tangibles, all the things that you 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:13.480 know coaches like to say on the podium. So is 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:19.240 he worth the hype? I don't know if it's an 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:21.360 easy thing to answer, because I think from a talent standpoint, 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:23.480 he's worth the hype because he's really good. But I 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:26.560 think that the hype in this case is more valuable 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:29.080 as it pertains to the symbolic nature of landing him 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:30.600 than it is for what he's actually going to add 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:32.160 athletically to a program. 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.360 I have not heard that take before Ari. That is 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:38.560 maybe I'm kind of just getting caught up with the 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:42.040 twenty twenty three cycle on the fly here, But it's 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:45.240 definitely an interesting perspective because so much of the recruiting game, 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:47.719 as you would know better than Dan and I, is 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:51.400 about reputation. It is about what are we selling. What 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:53.959 is the marketing pitch for this program? Obviously putting guys 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:57.320 in the NFL is one thing, but having that sort 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:59.640 of mystique, having that are around the program that you 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:00.760 can track the best. 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:03.679 What does that say about your school if you get 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:06.840 arch Manning to future quarterbacks? Yeah, I think the value 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:11.880 of that is probably more important than him winning games. 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:15.040 And I think that sometimes, like I am a little 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:19.120 bit more on the recruiting symbolism of everything you know 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:22.319 and what it means for program rankings and stature. But 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:24.559 you know, I don't doubt that arch Manning is going 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:26.719 to be a very good college football player. But I 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:28.520 also don't doubt that Dante mor is going to be 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:30.600 a very good college football player. And I don't know 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:34.120 if the difference between those two athletically is as stark 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:37.440 as their reputations, because everybody's heart of arch Manning. Maybe 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:39.440 Notre Dame fans and other fans in the in the 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:41.840 Midwest and recruiting notts to know who Dante Moor is, 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:44.600 but everybody knows who arch Manning is. So and it's 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:46.280 like funny because last year at the Elite eleven I 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:49.800 wrote a story because Quinn Viewers was at the time 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:53.560 the highest rated prospect of all time, and you go 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:55.040 when you put them on the field with a bunch 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:56.920 of other five star quarterbacks who are doing the same 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:00.320 drills and doing all the you know, same work outs, 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:04.800 and there isn't some intangible gap between Quinn yours talent 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:07.040 and everybody else on that field. So I think when 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.840 you start getting to the most elite, elite players at 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:14.600 that position, they're very closely no capable. So is arch 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:18.280 Manning standing above the rest of the quarterbacks and doing 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:20.880 something that those guys can't do? I don't think so. 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:24.320 But I think that his background, his understanding of the lifestyle, 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:26.160 what it takes, you know, all the things that you 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:28.400 get from being in that family. It was probably going 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:30.560 to give him a leg up on understanding what you know, 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:32.240 what you have to put in. But I don't know 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:33.600 that I would sit here and say with a straight 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.280 face that Arch Manning is the greatest prospect I've ever 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:39.040 seen in my entire life, because I just got done 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:41.800 watching quin you weres throw a football that hummed in 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:44.680 the air, you know, six months ago, and who's to 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:46.600 say who's better? And you know, a lot of times 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.880 that's why people say recruiting is anc inexact science, and 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:51.760 to a certain extent, that's kind of the reason for it. 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:54.400 And there's also the ripples, right, there's the ripples, not 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:56.920 just of the QB dominoes that fall. Right, if Arch 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.840 Manning decides to go to Georgia, then Alabama knows where it's, 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.880 Texas knows where it's going, they have their backup plans 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:04.800 in place, and more domino's fall. So everybody's sort of 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:07.120 waiting for Arch And then you have the receivers who 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:08.920 are say want to I want to catch balls from 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:10.600 Arch Manning, and I want to go to that school 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:12.560 now I want to you know, the offensive lineman who 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.840 say they're building something at this school. The symbolic nature 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.440 of arch Manning committing there. And I'm glad you brought 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:21.600 up quin Yours because the Ohio State quarterback room, of 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:25.600 which you are especially familiar, was fascinating last year. Everybody 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:27.880 knew it was not going to last, especially as CJ. 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:31.120 Stroud became more and more successful. But when you mentioned that, 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:33.600 you know, Georgia has a five star waiting obviously Alabama. 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:37.680 I think it's what Ty Simpson is in Tuscaloosa. All 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:42.240 of these top, top level schools are not skipping five 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:49.320 star quarterback class prospects. What is it about Ohio State 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:52.320 right now? What was that room like last year? Why 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:54.960 did Quinn youers go there for a year if that 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:57.640 was not going to be a place that really looked 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:00.840 like it was going to be a long term solution 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:02.960 for him with CJ. Stroud in front of him. What 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.400 is it like managing those rooms now with every cycle, 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:10.160 including somebody that your school will will go after in 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:10.640 a big way. 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:15.240 Well, I don't know exactly what quin Yours main motivation was. 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:17.320 The idea was that he went there to go get 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:21.000 paid for an nil deal, and people like to say 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.440 that he signed a one million dollar contract. I would 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:26.160 eat my hat if he actually earned a million dollars, right. 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.480 I think that that's the most frustrating thing about NIL 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:31.880 is that it's not public information. So anybody can say 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.640 someone's making something, but you can't you can't verify it. 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:38.720 So my idea, you know, at the time, was that 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:40.880 he's going to go to Ohio State a year early, 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:46.440 make whatever money he can. From an NIL standpoint, you know, 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:48.520 maybe not start right away, because how could you the 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:51.200 guy arrived on campus three weeks before the season started, 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:55.240 you know, give it the full season, and then come 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:57.800 back next year, which would be coming into this year, 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.360 sit behind Stroud or whoever won the job again, and 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:04.080 then as a red shirt sophomore, which really would have 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:05.800 been his red shirt freshman year if you take into 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:07.920 account that he was already supposed to be in high 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:10.320 school for one of those years, step in and try 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.760 to compete for a starting job. So like to me, 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:16.280 when he committed and enrolled early, it made sense. But 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:18.359 if his anticipation was I'm going to go to Ohio 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:19.840 State and in two and a half weeks I'm going 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:21.840 to be starting over another top one hundred player who's 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:24.960 been in the program for a year, that's borderline insanity. 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:27.399 And the thing that's really really tough about, you know, 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.640 quarterbacks in general, because of the money that's been sunk 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:33.320 into these training programs, because of the elital levens and 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:35.840 the openings and the camps that these kids go to. 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:40.240 There's a return on an investment that these parents and 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:43.600 these families are hoping to receive, and they don't want 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:44.960 to wait as long as you used to, you know, 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.480 back in two thousand and five, which is like the 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:50.080 golden era of when I was consuming the football. They're 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:52.480 the sport of football. As a fan, there was a 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:55.159 certain level of honor to going to a program and 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.520 sitting for two or three years, learning the system, being 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:00.960 a good teammate, becoming a leader, and and stepping into 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:04.280 that role when you've earned it. Those days are over. 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:06.879 If kids aren't playing their freshman year or at the 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.719 earliest or you know, by the latest their sophomore year, 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:11.520 they're going to be gone. So when you say, how 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:14.199 do you manage that room, and my opinion, there is 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:17.080 no managing it. The idea is you pick the best 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:19.800 player on your team to play the quarterback position in 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:21.720 that given year, and if people leave as a result 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:23.800 of it. There's always a five star quarterback or another 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:26.440 quarterback coming in through the rankings next year, and there's 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:30.680 no way to properly appease every single person on your roster. 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.159 In the world of the transfer portal, people can leave freely. 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:35.119 And there are a lot of quarterbacks that play on 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:37.720 Alabama's rosters and the Clemsons and the Ohio States that 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.399 could go compete and maybe start at eighty five percent 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:41.959 of the other schools in the Power five that can 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:44.159 just go do that now, So it's going to be 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:47.040 a nightmare for people in trying to I mean, I 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:49.199 remember when I was covering Ohio State. Ohio State had 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:53.399 Braxton Miller, j T Barrett, Cardele Jones, and who am 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:55.000 I forgetting there's one other one that was on the 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:59.880 roster all at the same time. Those days don't exist anymore, 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.280 and that's fine. So but the idea now. 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:05.399 Is, I mean one of them switch positions because of Braxtlly, Yes. 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:07.439 And in my opinion was the best quarterback out of 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:10.959