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Speaker 3: stopping by here momentarily. We want to talk to him

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Speaker 3: specifically about twenty twenty three quarterbacks. Yes, notably arch Manning.

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Speaker 3: Arch Manning is the name you've if you filed college football.

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Speaker 3: Even if you don't follow college football, just follow foot

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Speaker 3: ball or sports. You know that arch Manning is a

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Speaker 3: thing we will talk about. Arch Manning. Is he worth

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Speaker 3: the hype. Yeah, we don't know where he's headed. You know,

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Speaker 3: much more with our good friend Ari Wassman. Also need

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Speaker 3: to talk boat goals with Ari. While we're always sort

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Speaker 3: I don't think that Domino has fallen for the Irish yet.

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Speaker 1: That might be the first time I've ever said Bally

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Speaker 2: I wish I was on every week, guys. I'm so

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Speaker 2: that text you have time for SV Yeah, I've got

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Speaker 2: it always, And today was actually a pretty busy day

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Speaker 3: How would Andy Staples feel hearing that he knows the truth? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Wonderful. Well, let's get things started in as light of

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Speaker 3: We're coming in hot, Dan, We're coming in hot. How

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Speaker 3: hashtag boat goals. We're trying to speak it into existence. Ari,

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Speaker 3: But you know, like we're talking about doing some sort

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you said, I live near a lake and my

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Speaker 3: I'm a low key catamaran type No, Yeah, absolutely not.

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Speaker 3: all right, So yeah, R. Wasserman the big name in

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Speaker 3: Arch Manning is the name that everybody knows. Everybody is

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Speaker 2: So that's a kind of a difficult question for me

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Speaker 2: So what I'll say to answer that is that he

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Speaker 2: Probably not, because I think that there is a certain

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Speaker 2: So it's not like he is a commodity for these

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Speaker 3: I have not heard that take before Ari. That is

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Speaker 2: What does that say about your school if you get

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Speaker 2: watching quin you weres throw a football that hummed in

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Speaker 1: And there's also the ripples, right, there's the ripples, not

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know exactly what quin Yours main motivation was.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that's fascinating, and maybe this has

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Speaker 1: Like I believe Iowa has a blue chip quarterback coming

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Speaker 1: in from New Jersey. I want to say, Purdue has

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Speaker 1: one coming in from Louisiana, Utah has one coming in

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Speaker 1: from Mississippi. Do you think we're seeing And I don't

436
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Speaker 1: have the data, but do you think we're seeing more guys,

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Speaker 1: especially who are more and more coveted though those four

438
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Speaker 1: and five star guys taking more geographic and or system chances,

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Speaker 1: because like, why would a top flight quarterback go to

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Speaker 1: Iowa after we saw from the Hawkeyes last year? Or

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Speaker 1: even the inconsistency of Louisville. I think it's Pierce Clarkson

442
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Speaker 1: from California heading to Louisville? Like are we seeing more

443
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Speaker 1: dice rolls because of the ease of movement? Do you

444
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Speaker 1: think I do have.

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Speaker 2: The data to a certain extent, So five or six

446
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Speaker 2: years ago, I wrote a story for the Cleveland Plain

447
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Speaker 2: Dealer and the headline was it was a series about quarterbacks,

448
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Speaker 2: and it was called QB Quest. And basically what I

449
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Speaker 2: did was I took every top one hundred player of

450
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Speaker 2: during a ten year period at every position, and I

451
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Speaker 2: added up where they were from in the mileage to

452
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Speaker 2: where they went to school. In quarterback, compared to linebacker, cornerback,

453
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 2: offensive line, tight end, receiver tended to stay closer to

454
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Speaker 2: home at a pretty dramatic rate. Interesting. There's something about

455
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks being the hometown savior. There's something there. I don't

456
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Speaker 2: know what it is. There's theories about, you know, being

457
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Speaker 2: loyal to home or being the face of the program,

458
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Speaker 2: and then being more appealing being closer to where you are.

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Speaker 1: Being more familiar with the conference.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Whereas a tight end or a linebacker might not

462
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Speaker 2: care as much as a quarterback because there's many of

463
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Speaker 2: them on the roster and multiple players of those positions

464
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Speaker 2: play at the same time. But I thought it was

465
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Speaker 2: an interesting finding and I haven't done it again since,

466
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Speaker 2: but it'd be very interesting now to do that again,

467
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Speaker 2: right and compare it to the findings of five years ago.

468
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Speaker 2: It was a lot of Google Maps. There's a lot

469
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Speaker 2: of adding and averaging, but it was interesting, and now

470
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Speaker 2: I think that the entire nature of the sport has changed,

471
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Speaker 2: like national recruiting in general is so prominent, even at

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Speaker 2: places that didn't typically do it that way. You know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guarantee you right now, without even looking,

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Speaker 2: if you went in Iowa's class, I bet you they've

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Speaker 2: signed more out of state prospects in the last three

476
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Speaker 2: years in the previous five combined, just based on the

477
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Speaker 2: way that the trend is. So, you know, are people

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Speaker 2: taking more chances. Sure, if I were a five star

479
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Speaker 2: quarterback or any quarterback and I'd got an offer from

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Speaker 2: a school that in the past I would have been

481
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Speaker 2: dissuaded to go to because I was afraid I wouldn't

482
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Speaker 2: get on the field, why not go there? Be a

483
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Speaker 2: part of the experience for a year, you know, use

484
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Speaker 2: the facilities, get coached by better assistance, and if it

485
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Speaker 2: doesn't work out, you've got nothing to do because you

486
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Speaker 2: can go back to the place that you would have

487
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Speaker 2: gone to in one off season to be the start

488
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Speaker 2: of the following. So I don't think that the you know,

489
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Speaker 2: the the gravity of that decision isn't the same anymore

490
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Speaker 2: because of the ease of movement, which then makes people

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Speaker 2: looser and more willing to take risks. While in that

492
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Speaker 2: scenario like Maryland, for instance, I think has signed three

493
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Speaker 2: top fifty players in the last week of the year

494
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Speaker 2: or the last week of the signing period the last years,

495
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Speaker 2: and all three of those guys, if I'm not mistaken,

496
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Speaker 2: have already entered the portal. Right, And it's like that,

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Speaker 2: But that makes it hard on places like Maryland because

498
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Speaker 2: you know, getting the player is the hard part, but

499
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Speaker 2: keeping them is the harder part. So if guys are

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Speaker 2: going to go and leave it, I think that as

501
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Speaker 2: things continue on this way, the actual meaning of the

502
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Speaker 2: final recruiting rankings is diminishing year by year, which is

503
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Speaker 2: scary for my job security. But it's true. And what

504
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Speaker 2: you said is one hundred percent accurate. Why not take

505
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Speaker 2: a stab at it because worst case scenario it is

506
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Speaker 2: transfer home next year.

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Speaker 1: Right, fair enough. And one of the things you brought

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Speaker 1: up the name I think with Dante Moore, right, if

509
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Speaker 1: five star quarterback, I want to say he's in the

510
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Speaker 1: Detroit area.

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Speaker 2: He is Martin Luther King High School.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so he's in that midwestern big ten footprint, a

513
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Speaker 1: footprint in which basically no blue chip quarterbacks go on

514
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Speaker 1: to succeed. I don't know why that is. I don't

515
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Speaker 1: know if you've looked into that. I don't know if

516
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Speaker 1: it's just a crazy coincidence. And I don't know if

517
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Speaker 1: means in the NFL or succeed on the field on

518
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Speaker 1: the field in college, like if you look at the

519
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Speaker 1: past I don't know, decade or so, like, uh, there

520
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Speaker 1: have been Like I'm obviously Terrell Prior succeeded from Pennsylvania

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Speaker 1: from he's from Western PA, right, he's from the greater

522
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh area. But outside of there there may be a

523
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Speaker 1: couple of exceptions. But if you look at like the

524
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Speaker 1: four and five star quarterbacks from the Midwest, by and law.

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Speaker 2: You mean from where they're from in high school, not

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Speaker 2: where you're playing college. Yes, Oh that's interorrect. I didn't

527
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Speaker 2: know that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that A lot of them, an overwhelming number

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Speaker 1: of them are not all conference types. Are not four

530
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Speaker 1: year starters winning ten games. Like it's just it's not

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Speaker 1: a place to come from and be a very successful

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Speaker 1: college quarterback. Is there a place where if you could choose,

533
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Speaker 1: if you were running a generic school and you were saying,

534
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Speaker 1: you give me ten five star quarterbacks from around the country.

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Speaker 1: This is the location from which I'm trusting him the

536
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Speaker 1: most to be a successful college quarterback.

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Speaker 2: It's so funny that you just said that, Dan, because

538
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Speaker 2: I never really put that together. I just went and

539
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 2: looked at just like the twenty eighteen class randomly, yep,

540
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Speaker 2: and the top fourteen or fifth, okay, the top ten.

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Speaker 2: There's only one player from the Midwest who is at

542
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Speaker 2: the quarterback position, and he's number ten. So everybody else

543
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Speaker 2: is from somewhere else, and that's Phil Drikovich. So and

544
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Speaker 2: you know, whether he was successful or not, I guess

545
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 2: is still to be seen. But that is an interesting dynamic.

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Speaker 2: So I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: My question is, basically, is there a part of the

548
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Speaker 1: country that you would most trust a quarterback being from

549
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Speaker 1: like that he is prepared to that, he has had

550
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Speaker 1: the training to that he has faced the competition to

551
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Speaker 1: ultimately give himself the best chance to succeed in college.

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Speaker 2: Atlanta, Okay. I think Atlanta is a pretty good place

553
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: to start because Justin Field and Trevor Lawrence were from Atlanta.

554
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Speaker 2: They've got a high quality of football there. They take

555
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Speaker 2: it very seriously down there. It's a very highly concentrated

556
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Speaker 2: area for recruiting, so the standard is higher. I think.

557
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Speaker 2: I think that the more programs that are in a

558
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Speaker 2: school hallway makes that school want to be better in

559
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Speaker 2: all regards. So I think the elevated nature of Georgia

560
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Speaker 2: football has certainly been been the case, but it would

561
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Speaker 2: be very interesting study. Again, don't have the data. We

562
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: should just rename the show. Don't have the data, but

563
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Speaker 2: I think.

564
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Speaker 1: That No, I just want theories, that's all theory.

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Speaker 2: Atlanta is the is the place that really stuck out

566
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Speaker 2: to me because like even some of the California kids,

567
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Speaker 2: there's a lot of really good California kids that come up.

568
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Speaker 2: But I don't know, like unless I'm forgetting somebody obvious

569
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Speaker 2: and I look like a moron, which is a daily

570
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:54,479
Speaker 2: occurrence in my life. Like like JT. Daniels and Tyler Buckner.

571
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Speaker 2: I know he's very young, maybe he'll be a star

572
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Speaker 2: one day, but a lot of the guys that have

573
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Speaker 2: come from California in the recent past, Tanner McKee at

574
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Speaker 2: Stanford or maybe it's still to you know, Matt.

575
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Speaker 1: Tyler Buckner is actually from Metro Chicago area but transferred

576
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Speaker 1: there early in high school.

577
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Adrian Martinez. I guess it's from Fresnoe.

578
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Speaker 2: Just trying to think like and also the one thing

579
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Speaker 2: that you know, you mention it. I'd be remiss if

580
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: I didn't mention. And Andy Staples went out to Arizona,

581
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 2: did a great a great story of hers. But Arizona

582
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: has had a lot of very good quarterbacks come out, yeah,

583
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Speaker 2: in the last four or five years, and how somehow

584
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: has become one of the states that has produced though. So,

585
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Speaker 2: but I think that if you were talking about city

586
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Speaker 2: of where you could feel good about the player you're getting,

587
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 2: regardless of what position, but especially a quarterback, I think

588
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Speaker 2: Atlanta would be a really good place to start.

589
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Speaker 3: Now with the dawn of things like nil, do you

590
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Speaker 3: see any kind of like shift in the way that

591
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Speaker 3: some of these top flight recruits go about their business

592
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Speaker 3: when it comes to picking a school. Has it changed

593
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Speaker 3: the way that you cover it, the way that you

594
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Speaker 3: project forward, you know how things are going to shake

595
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 3: out at the end of a recruiting cycle.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm happy that you asked that, because it's like

597
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 2: the elephant in the room. You know, you can't talk

598
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 2: about quarterback recruiting without discussing this, especially considering the fact

599
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: the Athletic just posted a story about an unnamed recruit

600
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 2: that everybody knows who it is. It took eight million

601
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 2: dollars over a four year period, And I got into

602
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: an argument with a coworker the other day that said,

603
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Speaker 2: you know, I was the number one person that would say,

604
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Speaker 2: if you pick a school because of nil and you're

605
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Speaker 2: going to make that decision for fifty thousand bucks, you're

606
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Speaker 2: a moron and you're short sighted, and you're all the

607
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 2: way that money works. But if somebody offered me eight

608
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Speaker 2: million dollars over four years, I think that that is

609
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Speaker 2: enough money to make where I'm going. A secondary concern,

610
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 2: like if I were a five star quarterback and somebody

611
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Speaker 2: wanted to pay me eight million dollars over the course

612
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: of a four year period to go to Miami of Ohio,

613
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Speaker 2: I think I would consider that because what's the main

614
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: goal for a quarterback. Is it to be famous and

615
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 2: to be the starting quarterback of USC and get ladies,

616
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: or is it to get wealth long term wealth that

617
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: can set up your family for a long period of time.

618
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: And fifty grand or one hundred thousand or maybe even

619
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Speaker 2: three hundred thousand isn't enough to change your life forever.

620
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Speaker 2: But if you start getting into numbers where like eight

621
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: million dollars, where you have already successfully achieved financial security,

622
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: which is the main goal for everybody at age eighteen

623
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: before you even get out of the blocks, then that

624
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: kind of changes your mind a little bit. Now the

625
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: question isn't how much are you getting paid? The question

626
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 2: probably is what's the difference between School B and School A.

627
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: But you know, now, if if Arizona comes up with

628
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: a collective that says, hey, you know what, We're going

629
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Speaker 2: to pay somebody eight million dollars and Alabama's paying two,

630
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: why wouldn't you go to Arizona and you still could

631
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 2: get drafted there. So the idea of the collectives and

632
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: how much money is at stake here, I think is

633
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 2: a very interesting dynamic because you know, people talk about

634
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: leveling the playing field, but how does anil play a

635
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: factor into this? Well, if some school that is in

636
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 2: the Power five wants to pay somebody eight million dollars

637
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: just to go there and play, and that's guaranteed money

638
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: regardless of whether you're injured or not, you won the game,

639
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: you've already ascended to the level of football where you've

640
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: achieved insurmountable wealth, you know, within reason, from the game

641
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: of football, and you haven't even started college yet. So

642
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: to me, how is that going to change it? If

643
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 2: this becomes normal in the big schools like Ohio State, Alabama,

644
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: Georgia and stuff, aren't going to back it up the

645
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: same way that a place like Tennessee might or a

646
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 2: place you know, you know in theory Tennessee because we

647
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: don't know who it is, you know, it changes things.

648
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: So the question to me, and I guess I could

649
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: ask this back to you guys, is how much is

650
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: going to a place that isn't typically known for football

651
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: or sorry, how much is going to a place that's

652
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: known as a football powerhouse worth to you in dollars

653
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 2: when somebody that might not be a football school is

654
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: offering you more money. Also, while taking into account that

655
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: the best players in the NFL at the quarterback position

656
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: have gone to a random collection of schools that aren't

657
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 2: you know, I know that Alabama recently has Jalen Hurts

658
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,479
Speaker 2: and Tua and but like I mean, think about who

659
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 2: are the best player at the quarterback position in the

660
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: NFL and You've got a bunch of Texas Tech and

661
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: cal in there, you know, and it's like, these aren't

662
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: schools that are are known for that. So like to me, like,

663
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,479
Speaker 2: if you start talking about that type of money, how

664
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: much is going to Alabama worth and how much money

665
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: is at stake for you for you to decide? Well,

666
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: you know what, where I end up is a secondary

667
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: concern to the money.

668
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: Go to Missoo and be Chase Daniels and make three

669
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars a throw? How about that?

670
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: And you know what's funny about Chase Daniel is a

671
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: good buddy of mine here in Texas that I've met,

672
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: played with Chase Daniel at Missoo. And you know Missoo

673
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: isn't the beacon of quarterback recruiting. Chase Daniel's got a

674
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: hell of a life. And if somebody wants to pay

675
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 2: that man eight if pay me to be eight eight

676
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: million dollars to go to Missoo and maybe be like

677
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: Chase Daniel, who was a really good college quarterback and yeah,

678
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: has been good enough to stick around in the NFL

679
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 2: long enough to fool people to pay him four million

680
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: dollars for a year, not to do anything. You know,

681
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 2: that is a hell of a deal. And to me,

682
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: it's like if MISSOO is paying me eight mil and

683
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: Alabama's paying me too, is the experience of playing at

684
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: Alabama under Sabment in the development that they've shown that

685
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: they can do worth the six million dollars to you.

686
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 3: The other thing is this, people forget how few NFL

687
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: quarterbacks are actually any good. I know, all right, we've

688
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: got thirty two teams. How many are actually good eight?

689
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: How many NFL teams are in a situation that are

690
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: like I don't have a quarterback and I can't find.

691
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 3: It, like seventy five percent of them? Yeah, you know,

692
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 3: everybody else is on the verge of being traded or

693
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,719
Speaker 3: dropped or cut, and so you know, there's no way

694
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 3: to answer the question. Obviously, the cousins is.

695
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: Like the richest guy at the port, one of the

696
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: richest guys in the world playing quarterback, and was he

697
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: like a marginal player?

698
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 3: He may have vocals that we need to talk to

699
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 3: him about. With lake min A Tonka, I don't know,

700
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 3: but like it's impossible to answer. We these kids are

701
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 3: coming at this from a completely different perspective. We don't

702
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 3: know what their situation is at home, if they need

703
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 3: the support, if their family needs a support, like you

704
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 3: get people from all walks of life that level of

705
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 3: wealth though eight million dollars even like one million dollars,

706
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 3: I mean sure. My question is is it possibly going

707
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 3: to be the norm? You know, is that something that

708
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 3: we could see five years from now being something that

709
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: all the schools do because that's a lot of money.

710
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know if it's going to be

711
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 2: in a world where Tennessee is paying eight and Alabama

712
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 2: can't mustard up to Like I'm sure we'll get to

713
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: a point where everybody's offering the same but as it

714
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: pertains to right now. And I'm sorry to cutting you off.

715
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: The in but like, no, you're good.

716
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 2: How much is going to Alabama worth?

717
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 3: Right?

718
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: No, it's totally true because if you go to Alabama,

719
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: you will be coached by presumably some of the best coaches.

720
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: You'll be playing behind one of the what five best

721
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: offensive lines annually? At Alabama, You'll be throwing to one

722
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: of the three best groups of receivers and handing the

723
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: ball to one of the four best groups of running backs,

724
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: and you won't play until you are ready to be

725
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: a winning quarterback. You are not going to be thrust

726
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: into action too early. Sometimes it'll be as a freshman,

727
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: sometimes you'll be Mac Jones. And it's just you have

728
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: a certain amount of trust that playing for Nick Saban

729
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: will put you in a better position long term than

730
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: playing for you know, Jedfish if Arizona was your example,

731
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: because there is an unknown quality to what Arizona's offensive

732
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: line is going to look like, with their offensive coordinators,

733
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: what their offensive systems are going to look like. And

734
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: so I don't begrudge anybody for taking the money because

735
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: it is a weird, dangerous world out there financially, and

736
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: so if you don't come from a place with a

737
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: lot of money and a lot of opportunity, and that

738
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: is life and a life changing amount of money, you

739
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: gotta take it. But like you wrote a piece today

740
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 1: or this week about arch Manning, it is a at

741
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: this point, Arch Manning is fortunate to be able to

742
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: choose the best fit for him in an nil universe.

743
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 2: He is.

744
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: It is a privilege that he can say I'm going

745
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: to go to the place where I feel like I'm

746
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: going to develop the best, where I fit in best

747
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: with a coaching staff, with a community, with a campus

748
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: with academics whatever, that's it's a weird thing. That's gonna

749
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: not that Tennessee isn't that place. It is a very

750
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: quarterback friendly looking place. They also might receive sanctions in

751
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: a year, who knows. But I just am never going

752
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: to begrudge anybody for looking at the finances as a

753
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: big deal in choosing a school. But in terms of

754
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: long term, you can't just assume coaches are going to

755
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: be around forever. Receivers are going to be around forever.

756
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: But when you are comparing Tennessee to Alabama or Arizona Alabama,

757
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: you know that on the margins, Alabama is going to

758
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: have every advance, give you every advantage to succeed long term.

759
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: But there's just one guy on the field, there's just

760
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: one spot.

761
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: Jones went to Mizoo. He might not be correct the

762
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: cork Jones. Yeah, you have to you know understand that

763
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 2: going to Alabama put you in the best scenario to

764
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 2: not only succeed on the field and to win national

765
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: championships and you know, get drafted, but also just like

766
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: your personal development in the angevity of the game.

767
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: Benefit of the doubt, benefit of the doubt as well. Right,

768
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: like benefit of easier to get overdrafted coming from Ohio State, Right,

769
00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: it's easier to get overdrafted coming from Washington, Georgia or wherever.

770
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: And I mean, look, Christian uh what uh? Hackenberg Penn

771
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: State five star, So we're always going to look at him,

772
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: five star former quarterback, major place, has a promising freshman

773
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 1: year overdrafted given way too many chances, given the actual

774
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: proven success. That's the difference in going to a major

775
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: place that somebody's gonna say, but so and so school

776
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: liked him, So there's something there, there's a spark there,

777
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: that's that's what you can't get necessarily at Arizona or

778
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: Cincinnati or UCF or.

779
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: Is that no more place than that might be?

780
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 3: Right?

781
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably in the long term getting getting multiple chances

782
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Jase Daniel says, likely.

783
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I get. But this one also protects you

784
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 2: from if you blow your knee out. It's totally true,

785
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 2: you know, so that that also, you know that helps.

786
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, I grew up in a middle class family.

787
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 2: I didn't want for anything. We had food on the table.

788
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 2: I've got a very sure less background, and I would

789
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: take the money in a second. Yeah, it's just like

790
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: right now, if somebody said, I Ari, I'll give you

791
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty thousand dollars to go do something

792
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: else that you don't want to do, I'd be like,

793
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 2: no way, right. But if somebody who was like, I'll

794
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 2: give you eight million dollars, be like, where's the shovel?

795
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: Bro Like you know what I mean, Like that's the

796
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 2: that's the way.

797
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 3: That it is, and got daycare bills.

798
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, daycare bills. And by the way, holy, I don't

799
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: know if I'm allowed to I don't know if I'm

800
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 2: allowed to cuss on this, but my god, my god.

801
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that falls into your your theory that as soon

802
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: as you become more domesticated home ownership, children, wife, everything,

803
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: everything costs one thousand dollars minimum. Everything is a thousand

804
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: dollars minimum. I like that theory.

805
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it does seem like no matter what it is,

806
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: it is a thousand bucks. But I actually got I

807
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 2: saw those meme on Instagram, which might not be true,

808
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: but I sent it to a friend because I was

809
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: arguing with him and I don't want to veer off

810
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: the quarterback. No, you're too much. But the Basically, it's

811
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 2: a breakdown or a budget breakdown of a couple that

812
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: makes cumulatively five hundred grand as a couple per year,

813
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 2: So five hundred thousand dollars gross salary, you got an

814
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: eighteen thousand dollars four away contribution from both partners. Then

815
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: the salary after the four to one contribution goes down

816
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: to four hundred and sixty four thousand. Tax rate takes

817
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: out one hundred and eighty five thousand right off the top.

818
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: You're at two hundred and seventy eight thousand dollars expenses

819
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 2: two childcare for two kids is forty two grand. Food

820
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: for the four twenty five thousand bucks for the year,

821
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: mortgage sixty thousand dollars, property tax is twenty grand, property

822
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 2: insurance five thousand. You go down the list gas, car insurance,

823
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: life insurance, clothes, and two vacations a year. You know

824
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 2: it's a nice lifestyle because if you're paying five grand

825
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 2: a month for your mortgage, you got a nice house.

826
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 2: But it's all said and done, you're at seventy three

827
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: hundred dollars of excess at the end of the year,

828
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 2: and that doesn't even account for miscellaneous, which could mean

829
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 2: something came up like your roof is linking, or your

830
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: car exploded or all the other mindless bull craft that

831
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 2: we spend money on from an unexpected place. And it's like, yeah,

832
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: like things that you spend money on that you're like,

833
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: why am I spending money on this? Yeah, Like my

834
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: windows cracked, So I'm just going to spend two thousand

835
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 2: dollars to fix a window in my house that does

836
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 2: the same thing that it should have already done. And

837
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 2: it's just a waste of money. Five hundred thousand dollars

838
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: is a lot of money for two people on an

839
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 2: annual basis. That's five million dollars over a ten year period.

840
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 2: And if you break read down that breakdown, they're actually

841
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: not that affluent.

842
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: Go take Tommy Haslum's money. That's the lesson here. Don't

843
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: look back.

844
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also if you put you put it into

845
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: the market in your patient, maybe take a mill, you know,

846
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: get your Jordan's, get your Rolex, do what you want

847
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: to do with the miller, take the seven, you know,

848
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: throw it togion, Yeah, adding yeah, yeah, I get it.

849
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 2: I'm I'm no stranger to irrational splurges. But yeah, it's

850
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 2: just kind of is a. It's a nice stark reminder

851
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 2: that one hundred thousand dollars is not that much money anymore.

852
00:39:58,880 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: It goes quickly.

853
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: I just don't know, And like I feel blessed because,

854
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 2: you know, we're in a pretty good position, you know, financially,

855
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 2: with some of the savings that we've had and some

856
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 2: of the fortunate things that have happened in our lives.

857
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 2: But I don't feel I don't feel, you know, like

858
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 2: I can do anything I want. And I also don't know,

859
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: And I have a lot of empathy for people who

860
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: don't have much at all in how they were able

861
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: to raise two or three children. Now their lifestyles vary.

862
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 2: They're not getting married in Laguna and going on vacation

863
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 2: and doing things that were fortunate enough to do. But like,

864
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: how does a single mother of three children, you know,

865
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 2: working three jobs support their family. I don't know how

866
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 2: these people do it. And they're superheroes.

867
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, now when we're into this new era of

868
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: we don't know what the contracts are, we don't know

869
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: what you know, the specific language in those contracts are.

870
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: But do you see us entering or have we already

871
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: entered into a phase of the recruiting world of more

872
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: organized negotiation that Nico at Tennessee allegedly, with the deal

873
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: with the collective that Tennessee has put together. Are are

874
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: people on his behalf or are you seeing a world

875
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: in which somebody and you know, we always have the

876
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: you know, the Cecil Newton story with you know, Mississippi

877
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: State and Auburn allegedly, But are we entering into a

878
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: phase where we are going to have representatives and savvy

879
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: representatives at that savvier representatives than just a dad, an uncle,

880
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: a trainer or something like that saying okay, Florida State

881
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: is offering this much with this language, We're going to

882
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 1: go back to you now, Oregon or USC or Michigan.

883
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: What is it that you can do? Are we entering

884
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: that territory? It'll be very savvier way than usual.

885
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 2: How do you guys do your taxes? Do you do

886
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 2: them yourself? Or do you have somebody?

887
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: I have, I have an accountant.

888
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 2: If you don't mind me asking, how much do you

889
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 2: paying the guy for hour? I don't know, well minus

890
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty five dollars an hour, and I

891
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 2: don't know if that's typical or not right. I don't

892
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: know how much it would cost for a lawyer to

893
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 2: sift through all those pages of documents and to go

894
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 2: back and forth. And I know that a lot of

895
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: the people who are in that position do not have

896
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: the means to invest fifteen thousand dollars for proper contract negotiation.

897
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: But to answer your question, I do believe that to be,

898
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: you know, on the verge of that, because when you're

899
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: starting to talk about that type of money, you got

900
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: to be some sort of asshole to not do one

901
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 2: hundred percent of your research to make sure that you're

902
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: ensuring definitely, you know, maximizing whatever potential you have there. So,

903
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: you know, if we are getting to a point where

904
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 2: you have collectives doing recruiting trips on their own without

905
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 2: the staff there and having informal meetings with family members

906
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: and discussing these things, and there's five collectives coming at you,

907
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 2: then of course you're going to pit them against each other. Yeah,

908
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: you know, it's like that commercial for the banking you

909
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 2: know what happens when banks compete, you win? You know,

910
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: like that's that's kind of like the way I view it. So,

911
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: you know, I think that you know a lot of

912
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: recruits in their families are far more apt to understand

913
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 2: the intricacies of the game now than they were ten

914
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 2: years ago, because the Internet is a wonderful beacon of

915
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 2: information and in resource. But as it pertains to like

916
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 2: lawyers and contract negotiations and you know, back and forth,

917
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: there's going to be a tremendous amount and maybe they

918
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 2: won't have to pay it up front. You know, these

919
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 2: guys are smart enough to know they say, hey, give

920
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 2: me six percent of whatever the contract is and I'll

921
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: take care of this for you, you know, and maybe

922
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: we'll be at that level, but there's going to be

923
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: a tremendous amount of expense and research and negotiation. You know,

924
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 2: when it comes to this sort of thing. Now, the

925
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 2: question that I have more than anything is how common

926
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 2: is eight million over a four year period going to be?

927
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 2: Is that? The is that the cap is that the beginning?

928
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: Is that the baseline? What are we doing with the

929
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: three star offensive guard that plays in the same position

930
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 2: or the same roster? And what does it mean for

931
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: other players? You know, if Tennessee is allegedly the school

932
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: that has got a collective that's paying Nico eight million dollars,

933
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 2: then what.

934
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: I hope it is because he just committed there. I

935
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: hope you know the Michigan State collective is not paying

936
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: Tennessee's quarterback.

937
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, no, no. What I'm saying is is

938
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 2: we don't know if Nico got a dime, right. So,

939
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 2: like the idea is, now, if Tennessee goes into another

940
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 2: person's living room and that person is a four star

941
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 2: receiver from Fresno, is that person going to be like, whoa, whoa,

942
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 2: this guy got that. I believe that I'm worth this.

943
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 2: And the other thing that I think is an interesting

944
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 2: discussion is in the NFL, what do we see all

945
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 2: the time we see receiver on Team B say whoa,

946
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: wait a minute, that guy just made this much money.

947
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 2: I'm better than him. I want more than him, right,

948
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: And if so, it's going to be like it's like

949
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 2: an increasing salary structure where people are going to compare

950
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 2: what people got, you know, in this area of the

951
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: country from this program at the same position, and in

952
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 2: judging based on what your ability is, you know, you know,

953
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: setting a market.

954
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 1: Now and how the information is about a Texas receiver

955
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: or a Rutgers receiver or a Wisconsin receiver, Like, how

956
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: do you trust any of it?

957
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: Because these people who go public with this information have

958
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: an interest in doing so. They want to promote what

959
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 2: they're doing, and they want to But in six years,

960
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: when everyone's doing it, I don't know what there is

961
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 2: to gain about releasing the terms of any individual deal. So,

962
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: you know, how we navigate these financial waters is a

963
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: very tricky discussion. And I think it's gonna be murky,

964
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: it's gonna be money, it's gonna be weird, you know.

965
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 2: And it is very fascinating to me. And I'm working

966
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 2: on a story right now, or thinking about working on

967
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: a story right now about what does this mean for

968
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: a place like And let's just stick with Arizona because

969
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 2: I went there as the example. But what does this

970
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: mean for a place like Arizona is if they create

971
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 2: a collective which doesn't have the means or the passion

972
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 2: as a fan base to match what we all know

973
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: Tennessee is able to do what is their collective's goal.

974
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 2: As their collective's goal to just maintain the recruiting level

975
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: that they are right now and improve to scale the

976
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 2: same way that the other teams have not catching them,

977
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 2: but just improve as much as the other ones are.

978
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 2: So the gap remains the same, or are they going

979
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 2: to try to throw money at five star quarterbacks and

980
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: start to shake up the market because there are so

981
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 2: many different programs they are going to try to do this?

982
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 2: You got collectives popping up at Rutgers and Wake Forest

983
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: and all these other places. And the fascinating thing to

984
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 2: me is that, well, once Alabama, Georgia and all the

985
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 2: other big dogs catch up to what Tennessee is doing,

986
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 2: what is it going to mean for the middle tier

987
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: programs that don't have the same financial backing, of the

988
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 2: same passion from the fan bases. And what's the goal

989
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: of that going to be?

990
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think, isn't it what like ty can

991
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: speak to this better than I can? Isn't it what

992
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: like savvy EPL clubs do in that they position themselves

993
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: in the best possible case to find value to Like

994
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: we are going to be if we are the Arizona Wildcats,

995
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: if I am Jed Fish, if I am who's their

996
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: ace recruiter Johnny Nansen on defense, if I'm those guys,

997
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: I say, how do we annually establish ourselves to be

998
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: the destination for the quarterback? Leaving Texas for the quarterback,

999
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: leaving Oklahoma for the quarterback, leaving Oregon for the quarterback,

1000
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: leaving UCLA for the best possible Southwest and West coast

1001
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: footprint transfer not unlike what Oklahoma did in succeeding in

1002
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: attracting Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray. Looking at the big

1003
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: twelve foot print, you know, super talented guys who were

1004
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: ultimately not a fit at their previous places. I think

1005
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: it's you're actually probably going to have a better batting

1006
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: average because you'll have a better sense of who these

1007
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: guys are as college quarterbacks, at least practicing, if not

1008
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: playing in games. That I think is the move for

1009
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: a school like Arizona to say, what can we do

1010
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: to attract Spencer Rattler, What can we do to attract

1011
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: Tanner Mordecai, What can we do to attract Hudson Card.

1012
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: I think that's probably the win that you're looking for

1013
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: value more than you're looking for a place at the

1014
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: table of big spender. And isn't that a little bit

1015
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: what Dion Sanders reference to one of his recent reviews,

1016
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: you know, trying to trying to leave room on the

1017
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: roster for some of those guys who might want to

1018
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: go elsewhere after they've got a year or two on campus,

1019
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: didn't get their fair shake at the starting job. Now

1020
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,959
Speaker 1: they've got a little bit more development, and they're also,

1021
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: you know, perhaps more mature from being on a college

1022
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: campus for a couple of years.

1023
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am very fascinated by the portal guys, because

1024
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: these guys go into a program and then they disappear

1025
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 2: and they're behind the scenes and if they don't play, sure,

1026
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: you know, and I don't know how much insight they're

1027
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 2: getting from current coaches. Maybe they're all texting each other

1028
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: behind closed doors and saying this guy is really good,

1029
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: or this guy could play for you, or but I

1030
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 2: sometimes one or two, Like blindly going into the portal

1031
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 2: and trying to take somebody that's kind of vanished for

1032
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 2: two years seems to me to be just as big

1033
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: of a risk as taking somebody out of the recruiting ranks.

1034
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 1: So you know, they're more easily vetted though, right right,

1035
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: you can talk to people around them. We're just like, hey,

1036
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: they're they're Joe Burrow. Right, they had bad luck, they

1037
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: were behind some good quarterbacks. There's a lot of upside

1038
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: who By the way, Joe Burrow is a blue chip

1039
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: quarterback from the Midwestern footprint who succeeded Let's be clear.

1040
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah it's true, but he's a tiger now. Yeah.

1041
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: Now I'm just saying succeeded anywhere. Yeah, yeah, anywhere. Yeah,

1042
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: you're right, yeah, but yeah, but like Hunter Johnson was

1043
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: one of those who didn't know.

1044
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 2: It makes me want to go add it up, Dan, Yeah,

1045
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 2: go for it.

1046
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 3: I was going to ask you Ari, I want to

1047
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 3: ask about you for a second if I could.

1048
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: Oh, oh boy, I mean this Q to turn it off.

1049
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 2: Everyone had a warning.

1050
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 3: And covering college football, of course, but I mean you're

1051
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 3: clearly somebody who pays attention to the nuance. You told

1052
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 3: us earlier you were measuring as the crow flies from

1053
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 3: hometowns to eventual colleges. So clearly you care about the

1054
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 3: small details that make this whole thing go. How do

1055
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 3: you like your job now? And I don't mean that

1056
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 3: like a negative way. Oh no, it's I'm no how

1057
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 3: you present it's but it's different, right, the three sixty

1058
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 3: view that you have to consider is dramatically different, probably

1059
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 3: even then when you started this gig. Right, Like, it's

1060
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 3: funny that you're asking me that because I've had real

1061
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 3: internal discussion and like my goal in my career has

1062
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,439
Speaker 3: never been to be a recruiting guy. Like my goal

1063
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 3: has always been to you know, I guess not to

1064
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 3: pump up Andy Staples too much, but to be in

1065
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 3: a position like that where you're writing about everything, like

1066
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 3: we wrote about Bishop Sycamore and I covered the Cotton Bowl, like,

1067
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 3: you know, like those are the types of things I'm

1068
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 3: trying to transition it. But like I think, recruiting is

1069
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 3: a major piece to cover in college football and you

1070
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 3: can't do it without it. So even if I became

1071
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 3: Bruce Feldman one day, like, I would still have a

1072
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 3: very and he does this to a you know, a

1073
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 3: very good job too, but I would still want to

1074
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 3: cover it. But the thing that I resent not your question,

1075
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 3: but the thing that I resent is in recruiting. There

1076
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 3: is a large amount of analysis that takes place. Where

1077
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 3: are people from, where are they going, What classes are

1078
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 3: being signed at, what schools? What are our normal you know,

1079
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 3: reasonable expectations for those schools and stuff. And if the

1080
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 3: answer every single time somebody goes somewhere is that person

1081
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 3: is paid, then we are robbed of that analysis. Now

1082
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 3: we'll be able to say, well, here's the best class

1083
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 3: in the country, or here's who got the best players.

1084
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 3: But how could you be critical of a coach anymore?

1085
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 3: How can you be complementary of a coach like you know,

1086
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 3: for instance, is Tennessee's coaching staff basking in the glory

1087
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 3: of getting this five star quarterback? Or did a collective

1088
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 3: pay this kid enough where it completely removes any discussion

1089
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 3: from it.

1090
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 2: So like, I do worry about that. I do think

1091
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 2: that if in seven or ten years from now, what

1092
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 2: everything we just got them talking about is happening, and

1093
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 2: you got lawyers negotiating contracts and players are going to

1094
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 2: the highest bidder, it removes any sort of analysis or

1095
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 2: critical thinking that takes place in my area of work. So,

1096
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 2: you know, I think there will always be stories and

1097
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 2: players will always have stories to tell, regardless of where

1098
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 2: they're going. But like that fun analysis of why did

1099
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 2: quarterbacks stay closer to home than other positions, it's like, well,

1100
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 2: if the answer in four years is the money did it?

1101
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 2: Then it's just like, right, how interesting is that you

1102
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: don't have NFL people, you know, writing in depth stories

1103
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: about how rosters are built other than draft success in

1104
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 2: free agent signings, and it's all financial, which sucks.

1105
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: The good news for you is Tennessee was not the

1106
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: only school with an affiliated collective or booster or NIL

1107
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: situation that was willing to pay for NICO. Right that

1108
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: there are other schools and that you know, if you

1109
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: listen to the people who know one of whom is you,

1110
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: it's that if you are in the West coast footprint,

1111
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: why do you stay out west right now? Given the

1112
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: seriousness or lack thereof of a lot of programs in

1113
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 1: that conference right now, that if you can look at

1114
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: brock Bauers going from California to Georgia, that you can

1115
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: look at Bryce Young, that you can look at you know,

1116
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: DJU wasn't great for Clemson, but he did make that

1117
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: move that clearly the Southeastern part of the United States

1118
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: is where you go, no matter where you are from,

1119
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: to play on the biggest stage and give yourself the

1120
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: best opportunity to be seen by the most people in

1121
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: the NFL or by NIL sponsors whatever. That Tennessee is

1122
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: not an accidental fit for NICO. They play in the

1123
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: largest conference in college football, on the biggest stage and

1124
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: playing against the biggest opponents. That he has the best

1125
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 1: possible opportunity to prove himself given the visibility of his destination.

1126
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: So I think there's still room for you to provide

1127
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: analysis that is outside of financial Yeah, but you know,

1128
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: if you go.

1129
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 2: Look at a lot of the comments on the stories

1130
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 2: that I've written, is who cares you got paid anyway?

1131
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 2: That's comments that's like no, no, I know, But like

1132
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 2: if the general fan and I know that, like maybe

1133
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 2: sometimes I have a hard time I'm like hearing one

1134
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 2: person on Twitter and thinking that everybody's thinking that way,

1135
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 2: and I've got to work on that. But if there's

1136
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 2: a large portion of the college fan base that's going

1137
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 2: to view recruiting as who cares they paid him the most,

1138
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 2: they kind of just strips the joy out of trying

1139
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 2: to come to the bottom of these things because everything

1140
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 2: in call that's your challenge.

1141
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:21,760
Speaker 3: But isn't that also a much smaller percentage of guys

1142
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 3: like of course the headliners, right arch Manning, he's going

1143
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 3: to get headlines. Nico in this case got headlines. But

1144
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 3: there are guys plenty of guys who are three stars,

1145
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 3: who are you know, low four stars that probably aren't

1146
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 3: in line for you know, seven figure deals from anybody.

1147
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 3: So I would I hear what you're saying, at least

1148
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 3: who write about line But you know, when you go

1149
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 3: down a few pegs, there's still a lot of room

1150
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 3: for analysis.

1151
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: And like I do write stories about a two star

1152
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 2: quarterback that no one's heard of. Yeah, that might be

1153
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 2: really good, but that's a small percentage of my job.

1154
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure I'm writing about the most visual

1155
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 2: or the people who have the most visibility, because that's

1156
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: the people that people care most about. So yes, I

1157
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 2: think that to a certain point, that there is a

1158
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 2: scale of you have arch Manning and then you have

1159
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: random three star offensive tackle from Fresno over here, and

1160
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: they're in completely different categories.

1161
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: There's no question just taking so many hits today.

1162
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 2: You know, I think what I do and I actually

1163
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 2: somebody made a comment on like a review on The

1164
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 2: Andy Show, is that I come up with an example

1165
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 2: and then I keep using that example over and over again.

1166
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 2: I locked on Fresno in Arizona on this podcast, but

1167
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 2: I'm using them as a symbolic sure. Also I've lived

1168
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 2: in both of those cities for shorts periods of time,

1169
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 2: so I wanted to, you know, make sure I paid it.

1170
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 2: I know, I did an internship in Fresno California for

1171
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 2: four months in the summer of my junior year in college,

1172
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 2: in the tough summer, but it was like the greatest

1173
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 2: job I ever had because it was MLB dot Com

1174
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: and I covered minor league baseball for MLB dot Com

1175
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 2: and I had my dad's Honda Cord and I basically

1176
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: drove the entire state of California for an entire summer

1177
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 2: covering minor league baseball. And it was fun because they

1178
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 2: paid mileage and I lived in the middle of nowhere

1179
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 2: in Fresno, so like I had more money than I've

1180
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 2: ever had in terms of disposable income because I was

1181
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 2: making like two grand a month just on mileage a

1182
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 2: loan for a car that I didn't own. And that's

1183
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 2: where I've developed my propensity to want to play poker

1184
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 2: and gamble, because in Fresno, I had no friends and

1185
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 2: nothing to do on my off time, and they had

1186
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 2: a casino where the age was eighteen to gamble at

1187
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 2: that time. So that's kind of like.

1188
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 3: The Man Origin story.

1189
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and there's a place called Me and Ed's

1190
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 2: Pizza and Fresno that was pretty good. Great, Okay, but

1191
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 2: it's been fifteen years since I've been there.

1192
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,720
Speaker 1: Now, this is the obvious transition. This is the obvious

1193
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,399
Speaker 1: segue to get you out on your boat goals from

1194
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: out of the San Joaquin Valley, out of the grape vine,

1195
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: out of the heat, onto a body of water with

1196
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: all the money you made at your eighteen plus casino

1197
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: that you didn't spend at the pizzeria, that you can

1198
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: spend on.

1199
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 2: Leave the casino with a hundred bucks and feel like

1200
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 2: you hit.

1201
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 1: The lottery, feel like a champion of champion. So money

1202
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: is no object. You get to choose where, on what

1203
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: kind of boat, with whom, what the experience is like,

1204
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: is this current you? Is this past you? Is this

1205
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 1: future you? What are your boat goals?

1206
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 2: Well, those answers would be completely different depending on what

1207
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 2: you are talking about.

1208
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 1: Right, I'm just boat goals, And it could be parallel

1209
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: universe where it's like twenty three year old Ari the

1210
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: Laker Girls Catalina Island. Like it's like now, it's.

1211
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 2: Like unfair because my fiance listens to these podcasts. I

1212
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 2: wish I was twenty three years old and had twenty

1213
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 2: eight models on there in a pool and there was

1214
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 2: a cocaine guy, Like, what am I going to say?

1215
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: You know, like a current ari knowing that his bride

1216
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: may be listening.

1217
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I love my bride very much, and the

1218
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 2: beautiful thing about that is that I enjoy spending time

1219
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 2: with her, so current ar. I think the boat would

1220
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 2: be the same in all the categories. So I guess

1221
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,240
Speaker 2: the boat goal would be the Wolf of Wall Street

1222
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:03,439
Speaker 2: yacht that had as a pool in a kitchen and

1223
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 2: a helipad. And you know, there's one scene in that movie,

1224
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 2: and I know, it's like such a frat dude, like simple,

1225
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 2: you know, basic guy thing to cite that movie, but

1226
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 2: it's the only the only movie really that kind of

1227
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 2: illustrates this. But there was a scene where he is

1228
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 2: sitting next to or laying next to Margot Robbie on

1229
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 2: the top of this boat and there's like an aerial

1230
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 2: view of it and they're just like sailing from one

1231
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: Mediterranean island to another. And like being able to have

1232
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 2: a boat like that where you can travel around the

1233
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 2: most beautiful places in the country by sea, but also

1234
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 2: feel like you're in a floating mansion that has every luxurious,

1235
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 2: you know, amenity that a human being could ask for.

1236
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 2: I think it's probably the only answer to this question, like,

1237
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 2: I don't even know how else you could answer it.

1238
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 2: And here's the thing with me too, I've been fortunate enough.

1239
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 2: I went on a Mediterranean cruise with my parents when

1240
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 2: I was twenty four, and I saw these in action,

1241
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 2: Like I've been to Saint Trope, I've been to Monica.

1242
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 2: Like I've seen these people who park their yachts or

1243
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 2: or dock their yachts. You see, I don't even say

1244
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: it right, Yeah, and they come off the side of

1245
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 2: the boat and like these these boats are bigger than

1246
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 2: my house. Yeah, and you know, you have a staff,

1247
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 2: and you have a weight you know, a waiting staff

1248
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: and a housekeeping and they've got legitimate pools on there

1249
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 2: and more theaters and hot tubs and kitchens and cooks.

1250
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: And who are you bringing with you? Who is who

1251
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: is in this group?

1252
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 2: Well, my kid and my wife have to come, right,

1253
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 2: my parents.

1254
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: I don't think they do. It can be anybody.

1255
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 2: My fantasy is to get a boat and leave my family.

1256
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: I'm apped out the friends that I would bring, and

1257
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't like my kids would appreciate. My three year

1258
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: old and one year old sons I don't think would appreciate.

1259
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: And it would detract my attention right that I want

1260
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: to be in the hot tub thinking about the appetizers

1261
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: that are being served to me. I don't necessarily want

1262
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: to be changing diapers.

1263
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 2: So are we? Are we talking like boat goals? For like,

1264
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 2: how would you use a boat for a month right now?

1265
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 2: Or is this boat a week? To you? A week?

1266
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: You get to charge a boat for a week.

1267
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 2: Oh, if I charter a boat for a week, then

1268
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 2: me and all of my best guy friends okay in

1269
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 2: Monaco with unlimited amount of money, throwing lobsters at people

1270
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 2: off the side of the thing, in all sorts of

1271
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 2: people onto the boat. Yeah. I thought you meant like,

1272
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 2: how would you manifest it in your life?

1273
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no no.

1274
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 3: We're not talking like Armageddon water World situation where you've

1275
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 3: got to live at sea for an extended period of time.

1276
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 3: We're talking you get unlimited funds one week at sea

1277
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 3: in some capacity on some boat, presumably with the helipad.

1278
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 3: Are how are you so?

1279
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 2: I think the actual answer would be because I would

1280
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 2: never betray my fiance's trust in a million years. I'd

1281
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 2: rather die. I would want all of my best friends

1282
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 2: and their spouses with my wife or.

1283
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: Future wife, great answer.

1284
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 2: And we'd party like maniacs because you know, britt can

1285
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 2: can get down like you see her at a bar,

1286
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 2: at a dancing on a tabletops as a mother at

1287
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 2: eleven PM in Dallas. I mean, she knows how to party.

1288
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,439
Speaker 2: She's a lot of fun and just like going from

1289
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 2: city to city in the Mediterranean, eating like kings, drinking

1290
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 2: like maniacs. Pool that's the whole. That's the dream right

1291
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 2: there with all of my friends and their wives too great,

1292
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 2: ty are you?

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01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: Tye is still sort of working out the details. I

1294
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: think ironing out the detail.

1295
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 2: I think Tonight's bought a battle boat on local Lake.

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01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 3: Like I'm a huge I'm a huge fan of the boat. Yeah,

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01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 3: I just I have like sort of sensory overload, Ari.

1298
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 3: I have too many thoughts in my head about how

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01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 3: I'd want to spend that time. But damn, what was

1300
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 3: the word that you introduced me to in the last podcast,

1301
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 3: the small lobster legostino, the.

1302
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: Lango Stein's pastinos.

1303
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 3: H Do you know what that is?

1304
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 2: Ari? I've never heard of that in my life.

1305
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1306
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: See, I have an either.

1307
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 3: So I'm working through just some of the terminology here

1308
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 3: before I settle on some concrete boat goals, but I'll

1309
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 3: get there eventually.

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01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I just I want a local person grilling

1311
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: seafood on the boat. That's that's a Manda element to

1312
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: my boat goal.

1313
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 2: You have an amazing I mean food could mean anything.

1314
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 2: I mean, you'd have a top flight chef. You'd have

1315
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 2: a pool, a movie theater, you know, for those you

1316
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 2: know times where you can look out the window and

1317
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 2: see the ocean, but also you know, watch a movie

1318
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 2: with people and hang out while you're going from place

1319
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 2: to place.

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01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: I want to side off of the sidelide Wide would

1321
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: be of course.

1322
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would just be one of the craziest like

1323
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollar yachts you could come up with.

1324
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: I I think I would probably get the captain's hat.

1325
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: I would have my own ceremonial captains and I would

1326
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: not be wearing at any point during the week. You

1327
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: would not what not wear a shirt for no, no, no,

1328
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: I mean occasionally if I'm burnt up a little bit,

1329
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: I'll do like a mid level button. But I'm showing

1330
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: a lot of skin.

1331
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 2: Hit with you, tp off.

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01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 3: Would you or ari would you be interested in a

1333
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 3: Dwight shret type of situation where they give you a

1334
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 3: fake wheel so you feel like you're in charge.

1335
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: No, I don't. I don't want to even go anywhere

1336
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: near a steering wheel. I want the ceremonial captain's hat.

1337
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: I would love to be referred to as skipper for

1338
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: the duration of this of this journey.

1339
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 2: But otherwise, now I'm in charge of who comes on

1340
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 2: and goes off the boat.

1341
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 3: Here, the bouncer, the boun the manifest.

1342
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that would be just I just you know what.

1343
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's just because I'm a snob,

1344
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 2: but I would want to stand on the back of

1345
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 2: the boat whither backing it into Monaco with my shirt

1346
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 2: off in a role x, everybody looking at me and

1347
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 2: just going wow, I wish I could be that guy.

1348
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 2: Wouldn't that feel?

1349
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 3: What?

1350
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: What does he do for a living?

1351
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, he actually is a search mid window where

1352
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 2: I bet you if I did, I can make a

1353
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 2: lot of money off that information. Yeah, I was in money,

1354
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 2: Carlo or what if, I don't even know what it's called.

1355
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 2: We were on a boat, like a charter boat, like

1356
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 2: having a booze cruise or whatever. And this was back

1357
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 2: when I was covering Ohio State and this huge Wolf

1358
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 2: of Wall Street like yacht came up and on the

1359
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 2: back it said limited and it turned out to be

1360
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 2: Les Wexner's boat. Yep, and he was just out in

1361
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 2: the Mediterranean on this huge, massive boat that basically was

1362
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 2: like one fifth the size of the Titanic. And I

1363
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 2: just thought to myself, like that guy and me live

1364
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 2: in the same city, and boy are our lives different.

1365
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, very much. So okay, Ty, keep developing, keep researching.

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01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm still working on it. Yeah, you're mapping. I cannot wait.

1367
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: Well kind of a he said. You know, you know,

1368
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 1: I was just teasing you. Dan said at the beginning,

1369
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: you're from Dallas. There's a lot of lakes around here.

1370
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: No boat that I'm going to be having that lake.

1371
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: But I'm assuming that all of us are have the

1372
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 1: same boat. Like if you if you could have any

1373
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: boat in the world, of course you're going to take

1374
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 1: the craziest, most amazing And I actually it's funny that

1375
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 1: you mentioned it.

1376
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,919
Speaker 2: But on Instagram, I think I follow a luxury yacht

1377
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 2: instagram that just posts pictures of amenities on luxury yachts

1378
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 2: because I like to, you know, look at things like

1379
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 2: that and aspirational I think once you get to a

1380
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 2: certain point, though, all of them are amazing. So like

1381
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 2: it's like, how many extra bedrooms do you need? Enough

1382
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 2: to sleep everybody, enough showers and things like that. But

1383
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 2: as long as there was a pool, I think the

1384
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 2: pool on the boat is the most important element. I

1385
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 2: just outside of the kitchen.

1386
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: Tie's initial answer was something along the lines of I

1387
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: had nothing fancy. I'm an easy going guy. Just see,

1388
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 1: I want to maybe a lake.

1389
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 3: I mean, there was also part of me that didn't

1390
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 3: understand the question.

1391
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: That's fair, okay, so it's me too.

1392
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 2: I was misguided too, because I had, like, I had

1393
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 2: like nine different fantasies there. I had single twenty three

1394
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 2: year old ari fantasies, of course, And let's be honest,

1395
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 2: if you're single twenty three and you haven't met the

1396
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 2: love of your life yet, you're probably gonna have the

1397
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 2: best possible week of human being could have on that thing.

1398
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 2: M hm, especially if you're the bouncer of who comes

1399
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 2: on and goes off the boat. But you know, thinking

1400
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 2: about it as a as a family man. Now that

1401
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 2: that fantasy is much different than the other one. So

1402
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 2: if I had to pick one, I mean just don't

1403
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 2: make me answer that, but like that's those are very

1404
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,439
Speaker 2: different questions. Now. The one thing I will say before

1405
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 2: we go, And I know that you guys are probably

1406
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 2: dying to end this because I'm.

1407
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: I'm talking too much, but all good, keep going.

1408
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,959
Speaker 2: I'm not a boat person. Like if somebody said, would

1409
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 2: you rather have a private plane or a private boat,

1410
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 2: I think I would take the plane.

1411
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not making you choose. I'm you know this

1412
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 1: is I'm not I'm not trying to make an equivalency here.

1413
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: A plane gets you places and a boat is somewhere

1414
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 1: where you can chill.

1415
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 2: Right.

1416
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 1: A plane is a means to an end essentially, and

1417
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 1: a boat is where. I mean, yes, you can travel

1418
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 1: ya a boat, but I think in this scenario a

1419
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 1: ritzy boat is meant for parking.

1420
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 2: But my friend actually bought a boat. I people own boats,

1421
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 2: and I feel like buying like a boat that's like

1422
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 2: a two person speed boat. It sounds awful.

1423
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: People love that, though. I think the key is just

1424
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 1: to know people who do that, not to be that person.

1425
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what they always say. No, somebody who

1426
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 2: has a boat.

1427
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 3: Don't ever own don't don't buy the boat, all right,

1428
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 3: why don't we leave it there, guys, don't buy a boat.

1429
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 2: No matter what I say on a show, I'm automatically

1430
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 2: have never gotten through a sixty minute podcast without offending

1431
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 2: twenty percent of the people.

1432
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: No, that's okay, But if you are offending nobody, then

1433
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: we probably wouldn't have you back. Okay, I said.

1434
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 2: That on the last show.

1435
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 3: Don't buy a boat. You're good.

1436
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: That's okay.

1437
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 3: You're a good company. Ari Wasserman of the Athletic of

1438
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 3: the Andy Staples Show. Go check him out, get his

1439
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 3: fine recruiting analysis. It is always a pleasure, sir. We'll

1440
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 3: have you gun sometime soon. Okay.

1441
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 2: I love you guys, Thanks so much for having me on.

1442
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: Love you all.

1443
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 3: Right, there you go, Ari Wasserman. He's got boat goals.

1444
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 3: He's got boat goals. Yeah, I don't like you punking

1445
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 3: me for not having to do a specific answer. I

1446
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:43,959
Speaker 3: love boats, you know, I'm a boat person. We've talked

1447
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 3: about this before. Definitely, I just want to take more

1448
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 3: time to think this through before I commit to anything.

1449
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 3: I'm sure. I'm sure of the tens of thousands of

1450
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 3: folks that listen to this show every single time we

1451
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 3: drop it. I'm sure about zero point two percent. Actually

1452
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 3: a damn about my answer here, But now I am

1453
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 3: taking this seriously. It is my prerogative to do. So.

1454
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 1: Do you have another genre of ritzy goals? Do you

1455
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 1: have car goals? Do you have house goals? Do you

1456
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: have vacation goals? Do you have playe goals? Do you

1457
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 1: have toy goals? In terms of technology that kind of thing,

1458
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 1: like you know that you want to, you know, create

1459
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 1: a home theater of some kind, Like would you are

1460
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 1: you more specific in your ritzy dreams about another area

1461
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 1: of luxury?

1462
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 3: First off, even my ritzy dreams aren't that ritzy? Oh?

1463
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 3: Come on, They're just not They're just not. I just

1464
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 3: maybe I just don't think in those terms. I don't know,

1465
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 3: Like i'd buy an extra microphone, I don't know.

1466
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 1: But I will say this, do you have a mic goal?

1467
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 1: Like if if suddenly we had a one thousand dollars

1468
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 1: budget for microphones, are you buying the uh what's it called? Electro?

1469
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1470
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 3: The only one I don't own is the electro voice. Yeah,

1471
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 3: that's the only one I don't own.

1472
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 1: So that's a good one.

1473
01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1474
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 3: When we were up at doing that video show twenty twelve,

1475
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 3: for Espionation. They had the electric voices up there and

1476
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 3: I loved it. Yeah, but the one we have is fine.

1477
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 3: We have the same mic. The sure is fine. Right.

1478
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 3: I will say this about my luxury goals.

1479
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 1: You want to call it all right, I'm ready.

1480
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 3: I love this. I did have the pleasure once a

1481
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 3: flying private.

1482
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 1: I told you about this, Yeah, it was.

1483
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 3: It was mostly by accident. It was for the mysterious

1484
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 3: day job. It was unlike any experience I'd ever had before.

1485
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 3: I hate planes, Okay, I don't like planes at all.

1486
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 3: This was an experience. This is an experience. We weren't

1487
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 3: exactly in the lap of luxury. They weren't coming around

1488
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 3: with you know, tall boys of champagne or anything, but

1489
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 3: it was. It was just so convenient that I think

1490
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 3: if I had limitless funds, that's something I'd need to consider.

1491
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 2: What.

1492
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: Okay, so, what is your biggest inconvenience at the moment

1493
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 1: that could be solved simply by throwing money at it.

1494
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 1: I mean that you don't have but could have someday.

1495
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: Biggest inconvenience, right, you know, sometimes like if you're living

1496
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,839
Speaker 1: somewhere and you would like to go to a weekend

1497
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 1: home instead of driving your magnificent car, that you take

1498
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: a helicopter right that you don't you get to avoid

1499
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: traffic that way?

1500
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, this is going to be the

1501
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 3: dorkiest answer possible. But I could really go for some

1502
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 3: quicker internet.

1503
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 1: Here, I was gonna say, that's not unreasonable. I could

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Speaker 1: really go for some quicker internet.

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01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 3: And I don't believe the cable company has any plans

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01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 3: to change the infrastructure anytime soon. They actually just upgraded

1507
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 3: it like two years ago.

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01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: So what are you getting up?

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01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 3: Excuse me?

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01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 1: You uploading? What speed are you uploading at?

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01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 3: I think only like twenty five?

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01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get forty, I get I'm a gigabit down.

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01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,799
Speaker 1: But I have this awful Exfinity. Maybe in the new house,

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01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 1: whenever it is that we go there, finally moving, I

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01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 1: think we'll try to do. I think it's gigabit up

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01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 1: and down. Yeah, you need, but I don't have it now.

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01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: We need fiber. If I need, I need to lay

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01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 1: the fiber.

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01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, so something like some sort of tech goals.

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01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 3: You know, I'm and everybody's got some home renovations in mind,

1521
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 3: things like that. But no, it again, I need time

1522
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 3: to think about this. I need time to think about this.

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01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 3: The first thing that came to mind was the electro

1524
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 3: voice are forty five. So I've got.

1525
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 1: Issue I would I would address almost related inconveniences. I

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01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 1: would do private chef and personal trainer to sort of

1527
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 1: offset there.

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01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 3: That's a good answer, good answer.

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01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm just not a good answer.

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01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm just not programmed to think like this.

1531
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:34,839
Speaker 1: But this is why I would upgrade, upgrade, av upgrade travel.

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01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 1: The private jet thing, doesn't I mean, that's it's I'm

1533
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 1: sure it's nice. I've never been on a private jet,

1534
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's why I talk about boat goals, because

1535
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 1: that's so outlandish. The other thing is that I just

1536
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 1: I would definitely build my own fantasy factory.

1537
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 3: Well we're going to close out with this, Okay, Okay,

1538
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 3: I saw probably on Instagram somewhere, but somebody with way

1539
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 3: too much money decided that they were going to burrow

1540
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,719
Speaker 3: deep into the earth and sort of build a hidden

1541
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 3: cavern within their house. Interesting, okay, And I suppose it

1542
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 3: could double as a panic room or a bomb shelter.

1543
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 3: That's not really the motif I'm going for here, but

1544
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 3: I just sort of like the idea of having a

1545
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:15,560
Speaker 3: trick wall or a bookcase.

1546
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 1: You want a batcave is what we're talking about here, Yeah,

1547
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 1: something like that.

1548
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know what kind of zoning laws would

1549
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 3: allow for such thing, but if I could have a

1550
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 3: trick wall in the basement that would lead into the

1551
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 3: back cave of sorts, I don't know what i'd do there,

1552
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,719
Speaker 3: but to have it, okay, to be able to show

1553
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,719
Speaker 3: friends like, hey, push on this wall right here, watch

1554
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:40,719
Speaker 3: what that'd be kind of fun.

1555
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 1: I think what you would do in a heartbeat. And

1556
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 1: I just look this up. I just had to google

1557
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 1: his name, Lucius Fox. You know that name. It's Morgan

1558
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 1: Freeman's character from Batman.

1559
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

1560
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: I think if you could commission somebody to say, here's

1561
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 1: not necessarily from a weapons perspective, no, but just from

1562
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 1: a technology perspective. If you're like, I am going to

1563
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: create an incubator of things, of toys that I just

1564
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,719
Speaker 1: would like to have in my life, right, I think

1565
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 1: that's something that you would pour your money into.

1566
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:14,799
Speaker 3: Like a Tony Stark type of situation.

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01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:16,679
Speaker 1: It's exactly right. That's why I said Lucius Fox because

1568
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 1: he has the you know, he was associated with Batman.

1569
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 1: I'm not a posed to this time I was called

1570
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 1: that's well, it just made me think when you said

1571
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 1: bat cave, or when I said batcave in response to

1572
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: your you know, hidden cavern. I just think you would

1573
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 1: love to commission a tinkerer that you could every so

1574
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 1: often go down and say, what do you have for me?

1575
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:34,759
Speaker 2: Steve?

1576
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,600
Speaker 3: Commission what do you have for me? Tinkerer?

1577
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 2: Right?

1578
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 3: Okay at gmail dot com is the email address. As always,

1579
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:46,040
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1580
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,720
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1581
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1583
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1585
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1588
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Speaker 3: I have for now, anything further for you.

1589
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 2: Now.

1590
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: I am deep in the the the personal chef and

1591
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 1: personal trainer mindset right now. And how I get there

1592
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:23,959
Speaker 1: It's gonna.

1593
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 3: Take some time. Takes some time. Yeah for that guy

1594
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 3: over there. Yeah, n room. Esteem to myself tied hell

1595
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 3: the brand. We will talk to you all in a

1596
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 3: few short days. Meantimes, stay solid, peace,