WEBVTT - Ask Amy & T.J.: “I’m 59. She’s 19. We’re In Love, Now What?”

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, there are folks. Somebody by the name of C

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<v Speaker 1>and R wrote to us wanting all of our relationship advice.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's the relationship issue? He says, I'm fifty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>she's nineteen. Now what well? Robox initial thoughts yikes, my

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<v Speaker 1>initial take, yikes. And welcome to this relationship edition of

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<v Speaker 1>Amy and TJ. We take on a question from our

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<v Speaker 1>weekly Yahoo advice colin, which you can find in the

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<v Speaker 1>Life section of Yahoo dot com and Robes. This first

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<v Speaker 1>one before we get into the details. When somebody hears

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<v Speaker 1>fifty nine year old man nineteen year old girl, what

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<v Speaker 1>are they? And I said girl. I didn't even say woman, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that was just an accidental slip. But that's what you think.

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<v Speaker 1>I hear teenager? But what do you think Most people

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<v Speaker 1>think fifty nine nineteen? They mentally go to what you think?

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<v Speaker 2>That he's in it for the sex and she's in

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<v Speaker 2>it for the money.

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<v Speaker 1>That was more succinct than I thought you were going

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<v Speaker 1>to be.

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<v Speaker 3>That is where most people go and they think who's

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<v Speaker 3>getting what out of this relationship because it doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 3>like one that would be natural. A lot of people say,

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<v Speaker 3>what do you have in common? So what would be

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<v Speaker 3>the motivation, and that's typically where people's minds go to.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, and this again, this person goes by c

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<v Speaker 1>and R wrote into us on our Yahoo column, and

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<v Speaker 1>ropes take them through the actual full scenario that he gave.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. So this is what CNR asked us, Amy and TJ.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm fifty nine, she is nineteen. I'll wait while you

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<v Speaker 3>shake off the obvious initial reaction, the one that says

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a predator or at best simply with this young woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Because of the sex.

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<v Speaker 3>She and I have found intimacy at a level we

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<v Speaker 3>never thought existed while navigating the complexity of falling in love.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys, could not be more correct. Love is indeed messy.

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<v Speaker 3>Finding the courage to step off the cliff of settling

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<v Speaker 3>for less in hopes of experiencing the kind of love

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<v Speaker 3>that even the best poets, artists, and musicians can't fully describe,

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<v Speaker 3>is paralyzing. She and I are currently standing on that cliff.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you offer some non judgmental feedback about how or

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<v Speaker 3>whether to pursue this relationship. Hope to hear from you,

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<v Speaker 3>and congratulations on stepping off that cliff yourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>I okay, non judgment We should start there, right, non judgmental.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not hurting yourself or hurting somebody else, do

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<v Speaker 1>your thing. So people are into or they're into. And

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<v Speaker 1>also the other thing we should say here love comes

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<v Speaker 1>in all kinds of forms, and we're not here to

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<v Speaker 1>judge it. So we have to start.

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<v Speaker 2>There absolutely completely agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, And all we have to go on is are

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<v Speaker 1>the details that he gave us. So we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get into some comments that and this was our biggest

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<v Speaker 1>response we've gotten. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>We had three and a half thousand comments in counting.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, a lot of folks wait in.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh at the time of this recording, thousands of you

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<v Speaker 3>wait in.

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<v Speaker 1>But our advice initially when my reaction was I couldn't,

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<v Speaker 1>in good conscious conscience say to him, go for it, buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>You just can't. As parents, you think about kids. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a nineteen year old in the house all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. She's a freshman in college. But analyst

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<v Speaker 1>just went off to college. She is nineteen right now,

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<v Speaker 1>to think about what she is doing in her life,

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<v Speaker 1>going to work as a barista, can't wait to get

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<v Speaker 1>off work so she can go to happy hour with

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<v Speaker 1>her friends. Can't wait till then go out with her friend. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going over to Brooklyn and she's doing kid things,

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<v Speaker 1>and at the same time, she has to call you

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<v Speaker 1>at least twice a week with an emergency because she

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<v Speaker 1>can't find her keys.

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<v Speaker 2>Twice a week. I was like, twice a day, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But the points she's a kid, an absolute kid, and

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<v Speaker 1>to think about a fifty nine year old man, My

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<v Speaker 1>initial thought was just there seems to be so much

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<v Speaker 1>of her life she's missing out on by being with

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<v Speaker 1>a fifty nine year old man. What do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to take that from her? I'm trying to embrace the

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<v Speaker 1>love and the idea of it, but this is just difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was kind of my summary of what my

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<v Speaker 1>thought was.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and again I am also fully supportive of grown

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<v Speaker 3>adults doing what they want to do and not basing

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<v Speaker 3>their decisions on what other people think of them. However,

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<v Speaker 3>I understand where he's coming from in the sense that,

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<v Speaker 3>of course people are going to roll their eyes, and

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<v Speaker 3>of course people are going to assume the worst, and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to do that. But yes, I do

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<v Speaker 3>have a nineteen year old so I do have some

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<v Speaker 3>perspective as to what nineteen year olds. I remember being nineteen,

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<v Speaker 3>but when you're nineteen, you think you're so much older

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<v Speaker 3>than you are. And the thing I've always told my daughters,

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<v Speaker 3>and it drives them crazy, is you don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>you don't know. And I'm sure he, as a fifty

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<v Speaker 3>nine year.

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<v Speaker 2>Old, fully understands that as well. And so I really don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Think it's as much about an age gap as it

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<v Speaker 3>is her age. If this were happening ten years from now,

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<v Speaker 3>when he was sixty nine and she was twenty nine,

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<v Speaker 3>I might feel a little bit differently about it, because

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<v Speaker 3>she would have had her twenties to kind of figure

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<v Speaker 3>out who she is, and we're always figuring out who

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<v Speaker 3>we are. I get that, but I think this is

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<v Speaker 3>more of a power imbalance too, And maybe he would

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<v Speaker 3>say that's not a part of it, but how could

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<v Speaker 3>it not be. And so that makes me a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit nervous for her and maybe even for him too,

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<v Speaker 3>because you don't want to be with someone who you

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<v Speaker 3>are controlling or who you have control over, even if

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<v Speaker 3>you're not trying to exert that control.

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<v Speaker 2>It kind of has to exist.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe yes, from a financial standpoint, but also just from

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<v Speaker 3>an experience standpoint. There is a huge experience gap, and

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<v Speaker 3>that would be the biggest concern for me.

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<v Speaker 1>The line here, I mean the way he puts it.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, we have found intimacy at a level we

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<v Speaker 1>never thought existed while navigating the complexity of falling in love.

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't have any idea what falling in love is.

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<v Speaker 1>That young lady has no idea about a level of

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<v Speaker 1>intimacy that she's never had before because she's never had it.

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<v Speaker 1>She's nineteen. I don't care what experience in relationships she's

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<v Speaker 1>had the past several years of her life, when she's

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<v Speaker 1>been dating her little junior high school boyfriend or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>It just doesn't compare. So he sounds passionate and enthusia.

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<v Speaker 1>He might believe what he's saying. How could she have

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<v Speaker 1>the same experience?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, And I will say, as a fifty two year old,

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<v Speaker 3>I have never had the level of intimacy that I've

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<v Speaker 3>had with you. But I have, you know, at least

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<v Speaker 3>thirty five plus years of experience in relationships to compare

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<v Speaker 3>it to. So she clearly does not. And we're always

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<v Speaker 3>learning and we're always growing. But I think when you

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<v Speaker 3>start talking about poets and movies and songs, I know

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<v Speaker 3>what that feeling is, and that's infatuation, is it not?

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<v Speaker 3>Because love to me is when all of that maybe

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<v Speaker 3>even quiets down, and it's that beautiful connection and commitment

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<v Speaker 3>and friendship and partnership that ensusan Yes, you can have

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<v Speaker 3>the sexual attraction, but that initial youphoric burst that is

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<v Speaker 3>more a feeling of being in love versus a feeling

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<v Speaker 3>of actually loving someone.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have a time here, so we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how long.

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<v Speaker 3>They are actually, well, I would get it, hope it

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<v Speaker 3>would only be a year.

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<v Speaker 1>A year because she years plus.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we just hope she would. Yes, we would hope

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<v Speaker 2>that she was eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's just fifty eight eighteen sounds worse it.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually does, but let's just assume, because I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>assume that he did not decide to date her until

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<v Speaker 3>she was at least eighteen, So they've got a year,

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<v Speaker 3>year and a half tops.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, one more thing before we get into the comments

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<v Speaker 1>and the thoughts that people wrote in into us about

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<v Speaker 1>can we go and try have you tried to take

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<v Speaker 1>him at everything at his word at its face, that

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<v Speaker 1>this is real and this is true and these two

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<v Speaker 1>people are genuinely in love and now what do we

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<v Speaker 1>do with it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know what, Only they know that. Only

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<v Speaker 2>they know that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I would never say that isn't possible, because I

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<v Speaker 3>have certainly met nineteen year olds who are old souls.

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<v Speaker 3>And we've all met younger folks who act and really

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<v Speaker 3>kind of react in a much more mature way than

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of older folks do.

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<v Speaker 2>So that is true.

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<v Speaker 3>And then there older folks who stay young. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'm one.

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<v Speaker 2>Of those people. I feel like I act and.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm hopefully not throwing myself under the bus here, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I act younger than my age. I enjoy things that

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of folks my age don't enjoy. So my

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<v Speaker 3>friends tend to be younger because that's just how I roll.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm if I a younger boyfriend, I do have

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<v Speaker 2>a younger boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it sounds like you need a younger A younger boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I think four and a half years is perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you need much younger, as youthful as you say

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<v Speaker 1>you are.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no for it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like I'm going to be able to keep

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<v Speaker 1>up with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh No, I think we're matched in energy, and I

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<v Speaker 3>do think that that is part of it. So maybe

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<v Speaker 3>he is, you know, looking for excitement, and he has

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<v Speaker 3>that energy and that spark about him. And maybe she

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<v Speaker 3>likes to stay home and watch Netflix and chill and

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<v Speaker 3>she's not about going to the clubs and partying. But

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<v Speaker 3>you know, so much changes. You can be one thing

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<v Speaker 3>at nineteen, another thing at twenty three, and a whole

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<v Speaker 3>other thing at twenty five. You know, It's just that's

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<v Speaker 3>what I would be concerned about if I were him.

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<v Speaker 3>How much is she going to change? He's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>where he is and where he's going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>She's nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>She's nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't even know all the things she wants from Sophora.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet she doesn't. She doesn't know what sports she's really into.

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<v Speaker 2>She can't order a beer, yeah, and she.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't know I can't. How can you date someone when

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<v Speaker 1>they ask what are you guys drinking? And they actually

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what their options are?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>She can't rent a car.

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<v Speaker 1>She can no twenty five.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, she can't rent a house. She can't get a

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<v Speaker 3>verbo or an airbnb. I when you start putting that

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<v Speaker 3>into perspective, there's a reason why all of these stop

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<v Speaker 3>gaps are put in place. She's not considered capable of

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<v Speaker 3>making serious decisions like getting a drink or getting behind

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<v Speaker 3>the wheel of a hurts vehicle. There are reasons why

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<v Speaker 3>those safety precautions are put in place and having age restrictions,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just would maybe keep that in mind. When

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<v Speaker 3>you're fifty nine, you do understand this, but I understand

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<v Speaker 3>you can get swept up in the feelings and maybe

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<v Speaker 3>it is real.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is authentic, and those can be authentic. The next thing

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<v Speaker 1>is just what do you do about it. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>a tough one. We certainly wish them the best, but

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people. Again, like we said, thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>folks wrote in and people were dying to chime in

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<v Speaker 1>on this. When we come back quick break here. When

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<v Speaker 1>we come back, we're going to tell you. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to read for you some of the comments, and they

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<v Speaker 1>went a few different directions. One was yes, this must

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<v Speaker 1>be about money. Another theme was hey, adult, do you

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<v Speaker 1>And then somebody that goes by the name of B

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<v Speaker 1>Diddy wrote in to us and actually brought it all home.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay here and.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back everyone to this edition of Ask Amy and TJ.

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<v Speaker 3>We are talking about our latest Yahoo Life column, our

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<v Speaker 3>relationship advice column, where C and R wrote into us

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<v Speaker 3>asking about his relationship. Yeah, he's fifty nine, she's nineteen,

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<v Speaker 3>and you all had a lot to say about it.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to start with RJ, who wrote into the

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<v Speaker 3>Yahoo page and said this, don't know why he's even asking.

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<v Speaker 3>Just enjoy it while you can. Age is just a number.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm fifty eight and he put this in quotes. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not really I'm not really sure what this means. And

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<v Speaker 3>date many under thirty year old.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what he means.

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<v Speaker 3>I know what he means. He likes to have some

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<v Speaker 3>situationships with many under thirty year old's youngest being nineteen,

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<v Speaker 3>So while he really does know what CNR is going

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<v Speaker 3>through now twenty and I've dated five to ten years older.

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<v Speaker 3>You can have lots in common with people of all ages.

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<v Speaker 3>You can fall in love with anyone and it's just fine, Yolo,

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<v Speaker 3>live your life for you and don't worry about other people.

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<v Speaker 1>I am initially fascinated that he's dated someone who is nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>but al somebody ten years younger. He's dated women in

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<v Speaker 1>the range between nineteen and sixty nine years.

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<v Speaker 2>Old, just about that's wild.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, he's got to pick a lane. We need him

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<v Speaker 1>to pick alane.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, I think he just really likes women.

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<v Speaker 1>How about this Robes. Isn't there something to that? He's

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<v Speaker 1>just speaking strictly, not thinking about the woman at all,

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<v Speaker 1>not thinking about the young lady at all. And just

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<v Speaker 1>from the guy's perspective, you know what, man, if you

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<v Speaker 1>got a nineteen year old is willing to date you,

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<v Speaker 1>congratulations right, But.

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<v Speaker 3>And he put again the date in parentheses or sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>in quotations. So my thought is, yes, I totally applaud

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<v Speaker 3>his yolo. I certainly subscribe to living your life and

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<v Speaker 3>not worrying what other people think. But I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how best. I don't know the best advice he's giving,

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<v Speaker 3>because he wasn't. He doesn't seem like he's looking for

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<v Speaker 3>love or a relationship or a partner. I think he's

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<v Speaker 3>looking for fun, and that's fine too. So it did

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<v Speaker 3>seem that C and R is looking for love, is

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<v Speaker 3>looking for a partner, is looking for a.

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<v Speaker 2>Long term love.

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<v Speaker 1>So r J's advice really isn't helpful.

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<v Speaker 2>And to this RJ is just like man play the field.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fun. Taken from me, I'm having a blast.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, now we got the locker room talk, by of

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<v Speaker 1>the way. The next was Nicholas, and didn't you point

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<v Speaker 1>out that it's a bunch of dudes?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, okay, every time we look at the common every

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<v Speaker 3>time this is our third column. But I have been

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<v Speaker 3>fascinated that more it seems.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>Women could say their name is a man's name, but

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<v Speaker 3>because it's all anonymous technically, but it seems like more men, significantly,

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<v Speaker 3>more men write in comments than women.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have thought it was the opposite.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Nicholas chimed in this one ropes I would say this,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is probably the opinion most people have. This

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<v Speaker 1>one makes most sense to me, and Nicholas writes quote

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<v Speaker 1>anytime both parties are consenting adults, the answer is yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Now will it ever actually work? Highly unlikely.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's kind of it. I kind of feel like

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<v Speaker 2>he nailed it.

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<v Speaker 3>Nicholas nailed it because really, I mean, look, normally, I

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<v Speaker 3>would say, hey, it's no one's business. And we have

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<v Speaker 3>said this before, because we've got the Bill Belichick situation

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<v Speaker 3>going on. That's a forty nine year age difference correct

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<v Speaker 3>between him and his girlfriend, and we have both said publicly, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>let them do what they want to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Who are we to judge?

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<v Speaker 3>S and R is actually asking what we think, and

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<v Speaker 3>so I actually think that is probably the best answer.

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<v Speaker 3>You are consenting adults. Yes, if you want to go

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<v Speaker 3>for it, and you both want to go for it,

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<v Speaker 3>then go.

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<v Speaker 2>No one's stopping you. You're not breaking any laws.

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<v Speaker 1>But you got a lot up against you. There's the point.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot up against We haven't talked about friends

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<v Speaker 1>and family and what that difficulty is. I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to go to our high school graduation, to a

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<v Speaker 1>graduation party, to a college graduation party, and all those

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of things where older than the parents.

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to say, everyone is going to assume

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<v Speaker 3>that's her father, and I come from a family where

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<v Speaker 3>this is kind of crazy. But my grandparents were forty

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<v Speaker 3>when I was born, so they were My grandma was

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty one when she had my dad, and my

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<v Speaker 3>dad was nineteen when he had me. So that's really

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<v Speaker 3>bizarre to think that I could have been dating my grandpa.

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<v Speaker 3>So I have a skewed, skewed perspective just from that situation.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a little e for me, but that's just my

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<v Speaker 3>personal opinion. I never really liked older man. Case in point,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm dating a younger man.

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<v Speaker 1>This thing was sideways fast. I can't Oh, but I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to say one more thing, because you made something,

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<v Speaker 2>you made a really good point. We have we've walked

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<v Speaker 2>this walk.

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<v Speaker 3>Relationships are hard, even if you have a lot in common,

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<v Speaker 3>even if you come from the same background, from the

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<v Speaker 3>same hometown, and you're about the same age, and you've

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<v Speaker 3>had similar life experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>It's still so hard.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you add if you've got a religious difference,

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<v Speaker 3>that makes it harder. You've got a racial difference. We've

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<v Speaker 3>experienced that it makes it harder. Would you not agree?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it does? Hell yeah, Look every little what

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<v Speaker 1>There are some things you sign up for that are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be challenges, but there are some things you

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<v Speaker 1>should sometimes you know better than to sign up for.

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<v Speaker 1>And is what love? Have you proven? A love so much?

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<v Speaker 1>Has it been tested? That's the line. Faith that has

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<v Speaker 1>not been tested cannot be trusted. Well, love that has

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<v Speaker 1>not been tested is difficult to trust as well. What

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<v Speaker 1>have they gone through as a couple, right, Somebody losing

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<v Speaker 1>the job, somebody having to move, somebody having an illness,

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<v Speaker 1>So all these things that they just haven't experienced yet.

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<v Speaker 1>It's possible, but it's just unlikely, is what someone say.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we finally hear from a woman?

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<v Speaker 3>Then yes, Lara, we got a woman who chimed in Lara.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually had to search for a woman's name, Lara.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm assuming this is a woman, so she's gonna represent

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<v Speaker 3>and she commented, I think where a lot of you

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<v Speaker 3>all might be the only question that needs to be

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<v Speaker 3>asked is how much money you have and are giving her.

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<v Speaker 3>If money weren't involved, which one hundred percent guarantee it is,

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<v Speaker 3>and you were poor, you wouldn't have a nineteen year

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<v Speaker 3>old girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he's super hot, maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>Super hot and poor.

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<v Speaker 3>Or he's super or he's super charismatic. Maybe he's super funny.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of women like funny men. But maybe Look,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of maybes. She could have a missing

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<v Speaker 3>part of her heart. She may want a father figure,

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<v Speaker 3>she may have missed out on that in her life,

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<v Speaker 3>and she wants to feel protected, she wants to feel safe,

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<v Speaker 3>and he makes her feel all of those things. There

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<v Speaker 3>are more things.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe, well, maybe he just a normal guy. Yeah, with

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<v Speaker 1>a normal job and looks normal and she's just a

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<v Speaker 1>normal girl. I just want to make sure we insert

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<v Speaker 1>that possibility that there is nothing extreme or extraordinary. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe she's the rich one. I don't know what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it depends on her background and what she's experienced,

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<v Speaker 3>and the types of relationships she's seen and the type

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<v Speaker 3>of boys. I should say, because they were boys, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>assuming who she dated before, But I really do. This

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<v Speaker 3>kind of takes me to a place where I do

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<v Speaker 3>think the older I get in life. Yes, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>some women are looking for money, and that's the security

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<v Speaker 3>they're looking for. But I think most women, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think most people are looking for emotional safety. And if

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<v Speaker 3>she feels emotionally safe with him, she feels like she

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<v Speaker 3>hit the jackpot, no matter how.

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<v Speaker 1>Old he is and no matter how much money has.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's absolutely possible.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not about money, So Lara, I get it, And

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<v Speaker 3>that is a very easy thing to go to and

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<v Speaker 3>it could possibly be true, but I think it could

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<v Speaker 3>be more than that.

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<v Speaker 1>The last one we'll give you here from someone who

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<v Speaker 1>robes kind of has apparently walked the walk and came

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<v Speaker 1>here to talk the talk, and I appreciate it actually

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<v Speaker 1>as open as B Ditty is what the name is.

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<v Speaker 1>But B Diddy wrote in with this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, he said, when I was forty four, three years

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<v Speaker 3>after my divorce, I found myself getting involved with a

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<v Speaker 3>gorgeous nineteen year old.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, she pursued me.

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<v Speaker 3>She was not just willing, but seeking a physical relationship

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<v Speaker 3>as well as romantic. Now I'm thinking I hit the lottery.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the dream, right. This wasn't daddy issues or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>She was smart, going to school, had a job, and

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<v Speaker 3>by no means am I rich. So there was no

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<v Speaker 3>gold digging going on. But when it came down to it,

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't do that to her. She's still two or

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<v Speaker 3>three years from being able to go to the club,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm well past my bar hopping days. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to deny her any opportunities. I know some people

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<v Speaker 3>say just let her go on her own. Couples don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to do everything together, but eventually she'll want to

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<v Speaker 3>do stuff with her boyfriend, and I don't want her

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<v Speaker 3>to choose me over all the experiences she should be

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<v Speaker 3>having in her twenties. It's not an age gap, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a life experience one. And I'm not saying it can't work,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's so rare that it can work. I wish

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<v Speaker 3>them luck. That is so well said. And somebody who's

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<v Speaker 3>walked the walk, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Has been through it. And that's why I had to

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<v Speaker 1>sit up and have to pay attention and have to

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<v Speaker 1>respect what b didd he said. That was my comment

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of our column said, if you love

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<v Speaker 1>that girl, you might have to let that girl go. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's tough, but that's if this was a friend

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<v Speaker 1>of mine fifty eight or fifty nine day to nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old, that's the conversation I would have my man.

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<v Speaker 1>Conversation about her is not about him? Hey, is she

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<v Speaker 1>going to be there for you? Is she going to

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<v Speaker 1>take care of you?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, be about what are you doing to her?

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<v Speaker 1>What is her life going to look like? So I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciated that person writing in and if all that's true,

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<v Speaker 1>then being as open as they were about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And you know, we had a friend a couple

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<v Speaker 3>that had a very large age gap, but she was

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<v Speaker 3>in her thirties and he was in his sixties. He

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<v Speaker 3>was older than her father, and they made it work

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<v Speaker 3>for about five years. But eventually, exactly what b Didty

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<v Speaker 3>is talking about happened. She decided she did want to

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<v Speaker 3>have kids. She decided she did want to do things

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<v Speaker 3>that he just wasn't going to be able to provide

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<v Speaker 3>her at his age, or he wasn't willing to provide her,

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<v Speaker 3>including kids. So those are all discussions at nineteen. Did

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<v Speaker 3>you even know if he wanted to have kids or not?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I kind of said I didn't when I

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<v Speaker 3>was nineteen, but then I changed my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>And you got those two little angels.

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<v Speaker 2>Now They're so perfect, aren't they.

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<v Speaker 3>But we want to we want to thank CNR for

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<v Speaker 3>writing in and for everyone who continues to ask us questions.

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<v Speaker 3>That is certainly, well, that's our coffee machine going.

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<v Speaker 1>Off, that's my coffee.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, and yes, and it's late in the afternoon, so

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<v Speaker 3>I needed a little pick me up during the afternoon,

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<v Speaker 3>So sorry about that. But no, we we do encourage

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<v Speaker 3>people to write in because it gets us thinking. But

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<v Speaker 3>it gets everyone thinking about what matters and what helps

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<v Speaker 3>make relationships better, So we appreciate it. And yeah, keep

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<v Speaker 3>on commenting too, because we're loving the comments. They certainly

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<v Speaker 3>keep the conversation going, So thanks for listening. To this

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<v Speaker 3>edition of Amy and TJ. We will see you soon.