WEBVTT - Civic Cipher 123122 2022 The Year in Review (Part 2) 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:06.000 And now bring my mic back. You're like that. 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:11.799 You can strike waters from headquarters behind him. 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:15.200 And if you're just tuning in to CIVI Excite for 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:16.440 I'm your host Ramsey's. 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:18.560 Job, he is Rams joh I m q ward. You 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:22.880 are listening to a year in review WA Civic Excite. 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:27.360 And Manager. Stick around because we do have a lot 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:30.240 more to review. We're going to go from June to 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:36.519 November and revisit some of the topics that we've discussed 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:39.800 on the show, give some brief thoughts, and of course 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:42.159 you're welcome to go back and check out any of 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:46.720 these older episodes because we've done a lot of the 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:50.800 research for these and they're they're great episodes. We're also 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:54.480 going to talk about a great African Roman emperor. This 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:56.960 is something I never knew because when you think of Rome, 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:01.760 you think of Roman people, Italian people, that sort of thing. 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:06.080 But first time I ever heard the term Roman African emperor. 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:09.760 Was you sending me this story? Yeah, exactly, So stick 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:14.600 around for that and also this today, we're going to 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:18.960 discuss Baba becoming a better allied Baba. Today's Biba is 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:22.720 sponsored by Major Threads for quality men'swear, check out major 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:27.800 threads dot com. Today, you can become a better ally 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:31.000 by investing in black banking. I told you the episode 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:32.160 was going to have that as a theme. 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:41.200 So let's name a few of these institutions because you 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:44.920 might think black owned bank where you know, I know, 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:46.440 Bank of America, Wells Fargo, and Chase. 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:46.760 That's it. 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:51.800 Okay, Well, there's plenty of banks, Greenwood Incorporated, one United Bank, 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:57.400 First Independence Bank, carb State Bank, Citizens Trust Bank, Columbia 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:00.760 Savings and Loan, Liberty Bank, and Trust, etc. 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:01.760 That list goes on. 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:07.440 Okay, this is very googleable, right, and you don't need 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:10.880 to keep your money in a Bank of America, Wells Fargo, 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:18.320 et cetera. Now why is this important? Well, traditional banks. No, 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:20.200 Let's say you take your money, you put your money 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:24.720 into a bank. They're going to give loans disproportionately to 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:30.000 non black borrowers, small business owners, etc. They're going to 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:35.000 fund home ownership in non black for non black families 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:35.720 at a higher rate. 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:36.160 Right. 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:42.400 What happens is we give loans to these banks, and 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:46.280 they create wealth for people who are not black. They 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:49.040 create opportunities for people who are not black based on 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:53.840 just their mechanisms. They fund gentrification they expand the wealth 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:59.919 gap between black and white people and families, and they're lending. 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:00.480 Practice sis. 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:07.480 Solidify our position on this end of the spectrum as 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:11.880 black people, and so investing in black banks can actually 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:14.800 start to make a dent in that. So do the research. 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:16.440 But that's how you can become a better ally. 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:16.960 Today's tip. 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:24.440 All right, back to the lecture at hand, So our 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:33.359 year in review, June June was a troubling month for us. 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:36.560 I know, yeah, you're looking at it too. June was tough. 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:44.040 June is when we discussed the val Day mass shooting. 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:49.360 I feel like you know what I'm talking about. But 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:54.360 in short, Vall Day was when a gunman went into 0:03:54.400 --> 0:04:00.120 an elementary school and shot all the kids, and when 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:02.280 the kids died, and then they had to make like 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:07.480 Spider Man Coffin and all that stuff. Right by the way, 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:12.800 this country still hasn't done anything to anything significant to 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:17.280 change the likelihood of that happening again. And I will 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:21.760 say that where I see the most friction and the 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:25.039 most difficulty in creating those changes is with the conservative 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:28.559 facet of this country, i e. The Republicans. So again 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:31.680 back to you know, why do black people vote Democrat? 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:34.680 You know anyway, and they. 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:37.080 Have no intentions on doing anything either. Yeah, we know 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:39.760 that governor of the state where this happened went to 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:42.479 an NRA rally or just like the next day, the 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:43.880 day after. Yeah. 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:48.839 So anyway, the question that we asked ourselves when we 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:52.800 actually did this episode was did the police really just 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:54.679 stand there while children were shot? 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:01.160 Unfortunately? Yes, So we asked a question earlier, do please 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:05.520 make you safer? The evidence would say no, mister John, Right, so, 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:13.080 counselor John. So anyway, I remember having to have this conversation. 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:21.480 You know, we we have to be very transparent here. 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.120 You know, we have some longtime listeners of this show 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:27.839 and we appreciate that support. But after the past couple 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:31.520 of months, we have a lot of new listeners, particularly 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:35.080 in the in the podcast space, and starting in January, 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:37.840 we should have a lot more listeners nationally as well. 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:49.000 So some of these stories may not have made it 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:53.640 to you. But one thing that you need to know 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:55.039 is that I'm a father. 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.960 I have two little boys, and Q is a father 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:01.520 and he has a little boy and a little girl, 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:06.840 and they're about as precious as they can be. And 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:19.560 so the Suvalde thing hit different because because it did. 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:21.800 Why would I have to even explain that. I mean, 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:25.000 I'm sure you get what I'm saying. You said it, 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:27.520 and I thought it almost at the same time. It 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:32.039 hit different because it did to even if we weren't parents. 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:35.880 Thank you. You know what I mean. Like, once upon 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:37.880 a time there were people in this country who felt 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:42.039 right that the people who vote that way, the people 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:47.919 who sympathize with nothing changing after these outcomes. It's because 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:49.960 it doesn't hit home from them. For them, it's not 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:55.039 their children, or it's not children. And then one of 0:06:55.040 --> 0:07:00.000 these mass shootings hit in Colorado, where was their children, 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:04.800 where the kids did look like them. Nothing changed still 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:12.280 because to a capitalist society, it's capital. 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:18.720 Over everything that's fair, profit over everything, even our babies, 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:26.040 well even the lives and safety of our babies. 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:29.600 It's enough to make your stomach turning. I remember we 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:32.280 had this conversation because neither one of us were really 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:35.920 hyped to jump on the radio after that. But I 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:39.480 will say this, it might have been two thousand and 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:46.040 eleven ish somewhere in there Sandy Hook, another school shooting 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:53.119 where a bunch of babies got mowed down. They didn't 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.080 get to grow up that was the end of their story. 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:56.920 They went to school and then they didn't go home 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:02.120 that day. I went and my firstborn from school, and 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:05.520 I took him to Toys r us And because that 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.960 hit different, because you know, I grew up around mass shootings. 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:09.840 This is not new, you know as well as I do. 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.640 But when this aval Day thing happened, I had a 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:24.400 little boy who was in the second grade, which I 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:29.200 believe was approximately the age of the students that were 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:37.480 murdered at Uvalde. And I knew that I was going 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:40.240 to have to do something because the government wasn't doing anything. 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:42.320 And I knew I was going to have to talk to 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:46.319 my son, and so I brought my seven year old 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:49.200 at the time on the radio, you remember that episode cute, 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:49.920 and he sat here with. 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:59.559 Of course I do at a nia's naivete, innocence, ignorance 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:04.080 to the darkest parts of this story shown right through. 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:09.079 Man. He is not ready for that, But I'm his father. 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.000 I have to let him know. Hey, listen, if you 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:13.319 hear some noises at your school, I need you to run. 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:17.000 I need you to don't help anybody. Do you have 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:20.200 to survive. You come home to me. Okay, you go 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:24.079 somewhere and you hide and you stay there. I had 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:29.800 that conversation on the radio for everyone to hear because 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.800 of the Suvalde shooting, because if anybody was going to 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:34.680 do anything, it had to be me, because my son 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.320 is going to come home to me, and. 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:44.120 You feel irresponsible to not teach that lesson. But man, 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:45.200 you don't want to have to. 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:49.600 You know what was real kudo because I monitored that 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:51.599 show afterward, because I knew that there were going to 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:53.480 be some people that go, hey, man, listen, you can't 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:55.800 talk to your kid about nobody sent anything. You know 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:57.679 a lot of times our listeners reach back out and 0:09:57.720 --> 0:09:59.040 they say, hey, you know, I like this. I didn't 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:02.360 like that nobody said anything about that one. I mean 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:06.280 because unfortunate everybody, unnecessarily everybody understood that. Like listen, and 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.439 you could hear if you go back and find the episode. 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.760 For those we put all of our shows up as 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:13.679 a podcast. This is a radio show for those who 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:15.600 don't know, but we put all of our shows up 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:19.599 as a podcast. You can go and find this episode. 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:23.240 This was in June, and you'll hear his little voice 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:27.280 answer these questions and I'm like, hey, baby, do you 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:29.080 know that sometimes people go into the school and they 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:31.360 shoot little kids, and he's like, no. 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:38.800 Once companies started to market bulletproof school supplies, we were 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.640 too lost in the sauce. It's like, wow, the answer 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:46.200 is not to make it safer actually, but to give 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:50.160 the false impression that it is bulletproof book bags. 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:58.319 So yeah, anyway, we also talked about reparations in June. 0:10:58.400 --> 0:10:59.640 This is something that. 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.640 There's a lot we can talk about, maybe two things 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:05.319 a week on the show, you know what I mean. 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:08.439 Like at length, there's a lot of things going on, 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:12.920 and all of them work together, but they're all kind 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:16.160 of independent as well, you know what I mean. And 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:18.320 I think that this gives a lot of our listeners 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:21.040 a glimpse into what it is that black people are 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:22.560 asking for, because a lot of folks, if you don't know, 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:24.360 it's like, well, black people always complain, and black people 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:26.040 always want something for free. Black people want this. Black 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.640 people want that. They want rights. Everybody's got the same rights. 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:30.600 So I think, what's privilege? I don't have any privilege. 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:32.400 Nobody gave me anything when I started out, you know. 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:34.880 So this show we get to explain all of these 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:37.240 little things to people and kind of give them a 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:40.640 glimpse into Hey, you know, it's not the same over here. 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.640 Because it's very easy for us to access what a 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:47.680 white reality would be like, it's often more difficult for 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.840 a person where that's their reality to conceive of what 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:54.880 a black reality would be like. And so reparations had 0:11:54.920 --> 0:12:00.240 its day in June that year. This year, I should say, 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:06.920 where we outline some of the less obvious wise in 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:10.920 terms of how reparations make sense. We also took some 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:14.760 time to perform another thought experiment that helped our listeners 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:24.480 understand how by simply acknowledging the harm that slavery had 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:28.600 on black people, just acknowledging it, that could be beneficial. Now, 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:33.800 acknowledging harm doesn't have a dollar amount assigned to it, right, 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:36.520 And the truth is, if you were to try to, 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:40.000 like really put a number on that, you turn off 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.040 a lot of people who are in a position to 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:43.280 actually make that happen. 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:46.840 Right, which is so strange. But the argument would be 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:48.640 worth his money coming from we don't have it, yah 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:51.280 YadA YadA, but we send there's always money for us 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:54.679 that people want of billions of dollars to other countries 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:57.120 stay in their wars you know what I mean, Like, 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:00.959 it's it's not a lack of funding. People, Yeah, please 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:02.360 don't convince yourselves of that. 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:09.080 But in this particular facet, we I remember having this 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:14.600 conversation where we were saying that, you know, just simply acknowledging, Hey, 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:19.920 this is meant to address some of the things that 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:24.520 this country has done, some of the wrongs that we've 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:27.640 done on a human level. This was wrong, we did wrong. 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:34.839 This is for our part, and that acknowledgement it validates it. 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:36.280 Just to you know what I'm saying. When you're born 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:38.000 black and you look around and you're like, dam I'm black. 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.640 Everybody else is black and is poor, and that's normal. 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:42.960 That's just the state of black people. Why why can't 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:46.280 we be happy? Why can't you know, I heard someone 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:48.520 say on social media post the other days, like why 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:50.920 is it that black people are always waiting to get 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:52.840 the reward in heaven? But we have to be miserable 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:55.840 on Earth and every community, every city coast to coast 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:59.719 and Africa. You know, Africa has been robbed of all 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:01.520 of our wealth, of all you know what I'm saying, 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:04.000 And it's not unlike what happened, you know in the 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:05.640 United States with Native Americans. 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:09.880 It's just how did this happen? How? Yeah, man? 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:12.360 And how is this okay? How's there's this stunning silence 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:15.120 associated with it. And when you start to address it 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:20.440 by saying, listen, this was wrong. Here's what we're going 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:25.040 to do about it right now, that acknowledgment helps you 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:27.480 to reorient your place in the world. 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:29.280 Oh, this wasn't supposed to be like this. 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.360 I'm not bad because I'm bad. I'm not poor because 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.600 I'm supposed to be poor. There is something here that 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.320 definitively happened that set us on this course. And I 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:41.800 just happened to be born at this time. And so 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:47.160 my reality is not the result of my people me 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:50.520 just being punished or being you know whatever. It's it's 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.160 a result of some bad people making some bad choices. 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:57.520 And again we spent that time talking about that my 0:14:57.560 --> 0:14:58.920 bad I felt like I might have cut you off. 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:01.640 No, I was just going to point out that it's 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:06.560 having to be born where the world looks at all 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:13.880 of your shortcomings, your oppression, your marginalization, your losses, you 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:20.880 being kidnapped, trafficked, sold murdered, raped, It's not just a 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:22.680 part of your history but a part of your history 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:28.200 that you know yet it happened, and right because you 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:31.680 guys can't see me, but I'm a shrug shrugging because 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:35.080 to say I'm sorry, you'd have to acknowledge what you did. 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.080 So let's not do that, right, because that was so 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:38.720 long agoing, why are we even making it a big 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:42.400 deal anymore? And you look at throughout the world, right, 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.280 slavery the way that it happened on this country probably 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:50.400 singular to this country, definitely, right, but oppression and colonization, 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:53.880 and you know, words like commonwealth used to make that 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:59.760 colonization seem like it was for everyone. The words like 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:04.720 that's being used today, by the way, it's a it's 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.480 it's a troubling reality. Man. You know, I see my 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:13.200 brothers and sisters talk about you know, I had never 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:17.160 chosen to be anything but black as a very very 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:20.720 powerful and proud sentiment to say out loud. It's a 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:25.520 hard one to mean though, to actually mean, because there's 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:30.760 no point throughout history we're looking like us was in 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:36.360 vogue to a point where life was good here anyway 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.920 in this country. Yeah, so. 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:52.480 Yeah, reparations moving on July. Oh, sorry, this is still 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:56.240 in June yes and June teenth. We had a conversation 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:01.320 about how to celebrate June teenth with black people. That 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:04.200 was a fun one. Okay, all right, let me paint 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:11.120 this picture. Juneteenth now national holiday federally recognized. I think 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:17.000 that was one of the things that Biden did that 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:20.520 many people called performative. Right, And whatever the case is, 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:24.399 it's not zero. We're used to getting zero, so anything 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.760 that's not zero is something. Progress is slow. 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:30.320 We know that we, like you, are annoyed that it 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:35.560 came very much after much grander promises. Right, sure, but 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:37.480 we take our wins where we can get them, you 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:39.720 know what I mean. And that's something. But we had 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:45.680 to help this show for those who don't know. We 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:49.879 create a show that allows us to have black conversations 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:53.159 in full view of non black people. Our game with 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:57.240 this show is to help create stronger allies, to empower people, 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:01.560 to give people knowledge. Just want somebody to teach me 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:04.760 how to be their brother because I was born to love. 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:06.880 So if you're like me, then I make this show 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.440 for you. If you're like Q, then Q makes this 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:10.000 show for you. 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:10.560 Right. 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:15.480 So, when it came time to answer this question, how 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.560 do we celebrate Juneteenth with black people. 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:19.600 This was felt like it was perfect for us. Okay, listen, 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:20.240 here's what you do. 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:23.920 All right, So I remember this conversation. We're basically just saying, 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:27.960 you know, you celebrate it just like you would celebrate 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:34.440 any other holiday, right, you'd be mindful of Like if 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:39.760 you're going to celebrate Saint Patrick's Day, recognize there's a 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:43.480 commercial element to it. You do things that aren't disrespectful 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:47.600 to Irish people. If you're go ahead, jump in. I'm 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:50.040 jumping in like I had a few more examples, but 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:50.400 go ahead. 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:55.920 Yeah, So this is my position then and now it's 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:59.879 really really hard to gate keep. Yeah, the celebration of 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:03.760 it is now you're saying to hey, everybody, come celebrate this, 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:06.679 say don't celebrate it like that. Right, I've worn and 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:10.200 it kissed me. I'm Irish shirt on Saint Patrick's Day. 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:14.440 I don't know that that's not offensive to anyone Irish. Right. 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:18.679 So it's like the full commercialization of that holiday is 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:21.760 why it's so popular, right, So to it's like, hey, 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:26.120 recognize us, Okay, now as you recognize there's something like that, No, no, no, 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:28.320 you can't do like that either. So there's a there's 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.879 a kind of hand holding that should happen instead of 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:35.879 a gatekeeping and like looking at that's like looking to 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:38.200 shut people down for doing it wrong. And it's like, hey, 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:42.480 this is everyone's first time and every other holiday in 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:48.120 this country that's from someone else's culture. Those people have 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:52.400 allowed the full participation of people that are not from 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:55.720 their culture in a way that it seemed like we're 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:56.520 not prepared to do. 0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:02.000 Now, You're absolutely right what I was saying here is 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:05.560 in far as far as the example of Saint Patrick's Day, 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:11.880 I have not seen in my lifetime a person who 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:18.879 dresses like, let's say, a leprechaun and then puts like 0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:24.239 a big fake nose on and uh is you know, 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:27.720 like there's there's a way to do a caricature of 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:32.680 someone's cultural identity or culture outright, and I haven't seen 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:35.760 that happen. I've seen people wear kiss me on Irish shirts. 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:38.719 I have a grandma who is she was half Irish, 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:41.920 half Cuban. So I guess I what is that of 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:46.119 eighth Irish or sixteenth Irish or something like that, sixteenth Cuban, 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:47.040 whatever that is. 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:47.919 Whatever that adds up to. 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:51.040 So I guess I could wear it something like. 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:54.200 That if I wanted to sure, but then you still 0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:56.720 look like Rams, yeah that's my that's my point. 0:20:56.800 --> 0:20:59.639 Yeah, right, like but but here's the thing or this 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:02.040 hole day. In this episode, we were making sure that 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:04.680 folks knew it was okay to celebrate with us. Think 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:07.880 about it the same way you would think about any 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:12.600 of the other holidays. Know that there are some sensitivities, 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:16.960 but be prepared to learn from those sensitivities for your 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:19.520 social circle, for your community, and then use that and 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:23.280 use your best judgment. But do not be afraid because 0:21:23.800 --> 0:21:26.800 there's an opportunity here for fellowship. There's an opportunity to learn. 0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:30.400 I learned about Saint Patrick's Day. I learned about Thanksgiving 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:33.280 and what that was before it became Indigenous People's Day. 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:36.760 I learned about the history of all these people, where 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:39.920 these holidays and these traditions come from. So use it 0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:41.840 as an opportunity to learn. If you can learn from 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:45.960 the people who are responsible for it, learn why it exists. 0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:49.000 White people celebrate it, and if you feel you get 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:51.159 the day off of work now. So if you feel 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:54.760 like celebrating that at the park, go celebrate at the park, 0:21:54.840 --> 0:21:56.800 even if you're not black. You know what I'm saying. 0:21:56.880 --> 0:21:59.200 But you know, don't let the moment pass you by 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:03.680 without taking a second to honor the fact that in 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:08.400 this instance, there are people who died, you know, during slavery. 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:12.439 There's a tremendous amount of atrocities during slavery. And the 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:14.800 freeing of the slaves is why Juneteenth, well, I guess 0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:17.399 the late fet fring of the slaves why Juneteenth really matters. 0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:20.760 So there should be the understanding that they were already free. 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:23.760 There you go, that's why that's a holiday. And let's 0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:28.879 help people celebrate with us instead of gate keeping. Yeah. 0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:31.400 Absolutely, and in a way that we might be inclined 0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:35.280 to that we can build here. I love the idea 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:41.439 of building bridges rather than destroying you know, relationships or 0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:45.440 putting up walls. Bridges not walls. That's it, all right. July, 0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:50.240 we talked about the Robi Wade decision. We talked about 0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:53.600 Jalen Walker, he's the man who was shot sixty times 0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:56.840 by the police. We discussed why black on black crime 0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:59.359 it's not a real thing, so fellas, we've had that 0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:03.280 conversation any times. We talked about that Sesame Street parade 0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:06.520 where the little Black girls got ignored. We went to 0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:10.440 August and discussed why midterm elections were important. Of course, 0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:12.360 we had to get ready for the midterms at that point. 0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:17.520 To whom are police accountable? That's an important question. 0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:18.320 As well themselves. 0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:23.280 It seems no one else how stereotypes affect black children 0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:25.720 and growing up, and we shared examples of our childhood 0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:28.560 growing up, the stereotypes that we understood to be true, 0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:34.280 how it kind of closed us. In September, we talked 0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:39.240 about environmental racism, specifically Jackson, Mississippi, with they didn't have 0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:42.280 clean running water in Flint, Michigan and Flint as well, 0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:46.200 very very black communities by the way, exactly, and how 0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:48.520 you wouldn't see that happening in a non black community. 0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:52.240 We also talked about in September. This was when The 0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:54.600 Little Mermaid came out and the actress was black, and 0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:56.720 we talked about black people in fairy tales, not just 0:23:56.760 --> 0:23:58.679 Little Mermaid, but we also talked about it in like 0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:01.119 a Hobbit or Lord of the Rings thing in the 0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:05.000 Game of Thrones, you know stuff. And then in October 0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:07.880 we talked about voter suppression initiatives and what those were. 0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:10.720 We talked about a couple of videos we interviewed with 0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:14.520 Isaac Kay's the third and then that brings us approximately 0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:18.000 to where we are now. So that's our year in review. 0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:20.240 Had a good year, man looking forward to next year. 0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:24.520 But now it's time for the Way Black History Fact. 0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:27.320 Today's Way Black History Fact is sponsored by the Black 0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:31.439 Information Network Daily Podcast and we are discussing the great 0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:40.040 African Roman Emperor. So I will read from my notes here. 0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:47.119 In eighty one ninety three, Lucius Septimius Severus was named 0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:50.000 ruler of the Roman Empire, and doing so, became Rome's 0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:51.400 first African emperor. 0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:52.120 What a name. 0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:55.439 There's a lot of names here, but yeah, that's he got. 0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:56.800